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0:40 Speaker 02 Hello. Welcome to the bonus episode of My Therapist Ghosted Me. We're back. Happy Wednesday to you and your family. It's myself, Joanne McNaughton, and
0:49 Speaker 03 Vogue Williams.
0:55 Speaker 03 I slept naked last night because I wasn't arsed going down to get my pyjamas and it was boiling. It's boiling in London, so stay away, Joanne. And I hated every second of it. I don't know how anyone sleeps naked. I was having bad dreams. I felt like something was going to crawl up me. It was so hot, but I had to have the blankets on me because I don't know. I just thought something was going to go up. I don't know why. I like, I think it's because spiders go in your mouth. I was scared that spiders would go in there.
1:21 Speaker 02 Are you actually taking the piss?
1:22 Speaker 03 No, I'm serious. I couldn't stop. I will never sleep naked again. And I was wearing these knickers that are too small for me. So I kept waking up with it like in between.
1:32 Speaker 02 What?
1:35 Speaker 02 So you weren't naked. You had knickers on. So how would any spiders
1:38 Speaker 03 I had knickers on, but then I've learned a lesson. I'm just going to get outside and get my pyjamas.
1:43 Speaker 02 I don't, yeah, I don't, I have no problem sleeping naked. I wouldn't think of anything going in or out or anything like that. Nothing like that would concern me. My issue is I get, sometimes you get used to, there's a couple, you know how people have those blankets? They're like a weighted blanket. You get used, there's something comforting about having something weighted on your skin, whether it be, well, I obviously don't have the option of a man, so I have to make do with other things like blankets, pillows. Do you know what? I've developed a very strange new tradition, would I say, habit of one ass cheek exposed while I sleep. Yeah, I like a bit of air on one ass cheek.
2:21 Speaker 03 What a sexy bitch!
2:22 Speaker 02 Yeah. Now, bearing in mind, I am alone all the time, but yeah.
2:26 Speaker 03 Do you sleep naked then?
2:28 Speaker 02 Yes.
2:29 Speaker 03 Oh, it's just...
2:29 Speaker 02 Now, sorry! I don't have any exclusive rules, but I do understand the comfort of having clothes on you and also I do enjoy a breeze on one buttock throughout the evening. That's something new, I've realised, but I'm like, oh, I'm doing it again, I'm sticking my ass out again, this must be a new habit. It's nice to see growth in yourself.
2:49 Speaker 04 Always the same buttock, or is it switching?
2:51 Speaker 02 Any buttock, yeah, whatever, but I do tend to kick off the duvet and expose one buttock to the air. Yeah, yeah, I like a cold ass cheek.
3:02 Speaker 03 Don't know where it came from. I think everyone has a very specific way of sleeping. I've now taken two, now I've gone really far, I've bought myself, I have three pillows. Three pillows on one side, one is for my head, one's for between my legs, and then one goes on top of my face because I find, if you're ever, I swear to God, if you ever feel anxious, put a pillow on your face, don't push down or anything, just lay it on your face.
3:24 Speaker 02 Yeah.
3:25 Speaker 03 Make sure you're able to breathe. So when I wake up and I feel a bit anxious because I'm scared something's going to crawl up me, I was putting the pillow, I put it over my face like that because I sleep on my side. I am telling you, it feels like you're in, like it feels like you're in a nice, a sound bath place, just like you're not saying all the noise.
3:41 Speaker 02 Yeah, I can understand that. I can understand that. Do you think that's how people suffocate? You're going to end up in one of those kind of weird accidental suffocation accidents like your man from the thing. What's your man from the thing? Michael Hutchinson, maybe that's what he was doing, just trying to relax himself, trying to, maybe he was just a bit anxious, so he, no?
3:58 Speaker 03 Yeah. Well, do you know what? I was only talking about him, who was I talking to him about the other day? We were talking about mad celebrity rumours that you hear, but like, obviously his one wasn't a rumour, that's what happened to him, but certain deaths, I think, yeah, yeah, he's just coming out now, joking!
4:15 Speaker 03 But I think certain deaths, like just don't mention that. Just say, he died. I just feel like saying he died, doing that was a bit unfair. And just it wasn't necessary.
4:27 Speaker 02 But you see, it's all public information, isn't it? When there's a coroner's report and everyone, there's such a morbid curiosity about finding out.
4:34 Speaker 03 I know.
4:35 Speaker 02 Why and how celebrities die. Like the Amy Winehouse, so I, because remember when Amy Winehouse died, it was all very confusing as to how she died or why she died, kind of what kind of took her in the end. And according to that book that I read recently by her best friend, which I really, really enjoyed, it was actually the bulimia mixed with the alcohol was the reason she died in the end. She actually wasn't on drugs at the end, but I mean, she'd obviously done a lot of damage to her body, but she was, she was off the, she was off heroin as such, but she was drinking to excess, like quite, you know, a lot of spirits, like bottle of vodka, take a thing. But bulimia puts a huge amount of stress on your heart, which she, so it was a heart attack was the two of them that killed her.
5:16 Speaker 02 That's why even to this day and age, I don't know what damage I've done to myself. I'm very wary about using any of those pre-workout stuff, you know, those pre-workout shots that they're like five coffee in a shot.
5:25 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
5:27 Speaker 02 You just have to be very careful of your heart, very careful of your heart.
5:31 Speaker 03 Well, I come from a family of bad hearts and I really like, I feel like that might be the thing that gets me in the end. You just, you have to look after it. You never, I don't know if you're still wearing the whoop, are you?
5:41 Speaker 02 You sound like you come from a family of villains, bad hearts, long line of evil bastards. Yeah.
5:47 Speaker 03 Dark hearts. If you're looking for a stroke or if you're looking for a heart attack, come join my family. We would welcome you with open arms.
5:55 Speaker 02 I have a, I, when I tracked down my family, I was very pleased to hear I, all I have is a fatty liver.
6:03 Speaker 03 And your family, that's it?
6:05 Speaker 02 There's just a, and obviously, you know, there's a lot of alcoholism, but I think that just goes with the, I mean, that's just the territory. That's Ireland and also just being alive, really. Like I don't even take any of that shit seriously anymore. You know, you don't really like, and also I thought of this lifestyle as well, you know? I kind of drink a lot of the time because I'm bored really. But anyway, they did tell me fatty liver was something I had to be aware of.
6:26 Speaker 03 What does a fatty liver mean though? Just that you've got like excess fat building up around your liver? Like, you know, when someone's skinny, but they've got fat organs. So they're skinny, but they're actually, they're really unhealthy because they eat so much crap and it just lives around their organs. Do you still wear the whoop?
6:41 Speaker 02 Now, the whoop is whooping around and I know where it is, I just haven't put it on in a while. When I realised, and I enjoyed my brief whooping stint and I will, I will whoop again, but I haven't been tracking it as such. It kind of gets a little monotonous after a while, like, oh yeah, okay, it was asleep. You can also get a bit bogged down in tracking your sleep and stuff and I just, I like to take breaks from knowing every single move my body makes throughout the night, you know? But I do still like a whoop every now and again.
7:09 Speaker 03 Well, the whoop will tell you what your heart health is, so it will tell you how many years younger than you are, I've told you that before. Now, I used, I, I used to wear the whoop all the time, but I'd take it off when I was drinking because if you wear the whoop when you're drinking the next day, it's like 1%, like you're 1% recovered and I just didn't need that in my life. I'm already feel bad about it.
7:27 Speaker 02 Well, also, like, obviously because I am a drinker, so I, there was a lot of negative energy, a lot of negative feedback coming from my whoop on a regular basis. And I was like, I don't need this in my life, I'm fine.
7:41 Speaker 03 You're dead, you're dead.
7:43 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell me if I'm nearing death, but apart from that, do you know what I mean? Sometimes you can have too much information about yourself.
7:51 Speaker 03 I really do believe that. It does make you feel bad, but it also makes me feel good. We used to be in a group, right? We had a whoop group, so you can have a group with people. And, and some days I'd drink here and my business partner would be in the group and I'm like, are you dead? Straight. I'd be like, have you just not moved? And he's like, no, I went for a walk. No, you didn't. You're used to saying you're dead.
8:14 Speaker 02 There's also something, I, one time, I, I don't know whether it was the, I had a garment at one point as well, um, which I left in a hotel room. It was never to be seen again. I was heartbroken about it. And, um, that.
8:25 Speaker 03 You didn't even tell us about that one.
8:27 Speaker 02 It was, I was heartbroken. I rang the hotel, they're like, it's not there. And I was like, it is there. But anyway, it disappeared.
8:32 Speaker 03 Where's the printer?
8:34 Speaker 03 Where's the printer?
8:36 Speaker 02 Oh, my Polaroid photo printer that Carol got me for my birthday.
8:39 Speaker 03 Yeah.
8:40 Speaker 02 It's, it's in the safety of clapping.
8:43 Speaker 03 Oh, is it? Really? That's interesting. You didn't take it on holidays with you.
8:49 Speaker 02 Why would I take a trip? I can print my memories in the comfort of my own home without adding three kilograms to my luggage bulk.
8:55 Speaker 03 Okay, okay. Well, I'm, I can't wait to see your scrapbook when I get back.
8:58 Speaker 02 I don't, I don't want to pay to carry my memories around. I'm already 20kg overweight.
9:06 Speaker 02 Wearing like I'm carrying on, like I'm wearing like 60 coats on each plane and everything looks ridiculous. To say I need to put on a wash is the biggest understatement of the century. But I was saying, the garment ones, I went out for what I thought was quite an excessive exercise session, came home and it was like, oh, activity, what is it? Activity noticed. I was like, noticed? That's very Greek.
9:31 Speaker 03 Do you know when I know I'm a real loser? My aura starts telling me, because I wear that ring, the aura ring, and it starts telling me to go to bed, start preparing for bed at half six.
9:45 Speaker 02 Shut up. Oh my god.
9:48 Speaker 03 It's time to start preparing for bed. It's half six.
9:51 Speaker 02 Is this like your skincare routine? Or is this like your wine day?
9:57 Speaker 03 It's a short wine day. I'm in bed.
9:59 Speaker 02 That is hilarious. Do you remember when you were younger and during the summer and you had to come in when it was bright? And I was always the earliest in because Pat, we won't say, she was just, you know, she's got a mom. Pat mom's pretty. I was always felt very hard done by because she'd want me in very early. And so it was bright, that they were trying to put you to bed and it was bright outside. And your parents would be like trying to tape up the curtains and all. You're like, it's the middle of the day, for god's sake. It was awful. And you could hear all the other kids trying to have the crack outside. We were like, in bed, like a child, even though I was a child. That's you, Vogue. No one's in the blackout blinds and all. Sure, you'd have to if you're going to bed at 4pm.
10:38 Speaker 03 It is pathetic. I know it's pathetic. I stayed up till, I stayed up till like half 10 the other night and I looked at my clock. I was like, oh, Jesus. Oh, god. My gosh.
10:46 Speaker 02 Quick, Miller, quick, close your eyes.
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11:59 Speaker 02 The other way fake news is getting so convincing now. Remember we thought that Ellen DeGeneres had been arrested as part of the P Diddy trial?
12:05 Speaker 03 Yeah.
12:06 Speaker 02 And it turns out like it's not true at all. And then the other day I had my last Amsterdam show and Joanna, who's my tour manager for the European bits, we were chatting after and she was saying that she, you know, the plane crash, Air India, that obviously I'm mildly obsessed with, as I am with most aviation disasters.
12:23 Speaker 03 You really love plane crashes.
12:24 Speaker 02 Yeah, I mean.
12:26 Speaker 03 No, I mean, you just find them really interesting.
12:29 Speaker 02 Yeah, no, I do. I do. I really do. Yeah. I have a keen interest in aviation. I suppose that includes aviation disasters. But she was saying that she read that the one sole survivor had been arrested, that there was footage of him planting a bomb under the plane.
12:45 Speaker 03 No, no, that's a desperate rumor.
12:48 Speaker 02 I was like Joanna, that is not true. She goes, it is. I read it. And I was like, Joanna, trust me, I practically alert set up for this thing. I would know. But she believes that to be true. She read it on some fake news site.
12:57 Speaker 03 Well, I said to Joanne, my Joanne, the other, our Joanne, the other day, I said to you.
13:03 Speaker 02 You. Oh, me. Oh, yes.
13:07 Speaker 03 I said to you the other day, I was like, I heard a rumour, but I don't want to tell you because it's so bad. And I heard this, one of the worst rumours I have ever heard about someone. And I was like, oh my God. And then I was like, I'm actually not going to say it to anyone until I hear if it's true or not, because it was so bad. But remember, like, and it isn't true, by the way, so I'm glad I wasn't one to say anything, because it was, honestly, it was so bad.
13:33 Speaker 02 It was obviously, was it kind of like paedophilia style vibe?
13:37 Speaker 03 Yes.
13:37 Speaker 02 Yeah.
13:38 Speaker 03 Yes.
13:39 Speaker 02 That is the worst rumour.
13:40 Speaker 03 Yeah. And I was like, I'm not going to say it, that I've heard that, but I've heard it, like, I heard it quite a bit. But then I was thinking, like, all the rumours that have gone around about me, like, I shouldn't be whinging about them. I should be so grateful.
13:53 Speaker 02 Yeah, that they're so innocent.
13:54 Speaker 03 That they're so... Who was the paedophilia one? Was it on my tattle thread?
14:01 Speaker 03 We never spoke about tattle. Never spoke about it.
14:06 Speaker 02 Oh, God. I'm just like, I want no part of any of it. I want nothing to do with this. It's all exposed. And of course, it's a man. It's a man.
14:16 Speaker 03 What a douchebag he is.
14:18 Speaker 02 For women to slag each other off. It's a man doing it. I know. Shock horror.
14:22 Speaker 03 God, it's just, honestly, but my...
14:25 Speaker 02 Sebastian something, loser.
14:27 Speaker 03 What a gee bag. When I saw, but like, some people like had social services sent to their house. Some people's like, floor plans are put up. Some people's like, where their kids go to school and nursery is put up. All that kind of stuff.
14:41 Speaker 02 It's wild.
14:42 Speaker 03 Wild shit. But I, my favourite thing about it is because he's been released now. And now the people behind it, who've started all these vicious things, now people who are, they're gonna be outed and there's...
14:57 Speaker 02 Are they though? For anyone who doesn't know, tattle, we even, we have stayed well clear of it. But it's a forum where you go on and you can anonymously kind of slag off people. It's funny when, it's, it's, it's for kind of influencer type people and a lot of people, some people are, some people are worse off than others. People are getting all sorts of abuse on it. I never read mine because I was like, it's probably all true. I want no part of it. Don't wanna know. I was like, my just went on, you're like, yeah, can't, can't, can't deny any of this, actually, to be honest. So I'll absolutely.
15:29 Speaker 03 Wow, how did they find that out?
15:31 Speaker 02 I would just be terrified that if they go through my title thread, it's like our mothers or something, do you know what I mean? It's like, I just don't wanna know.
15:37 Speaker 03 But my thing is, I imagine it's, I imagine it's someone we know.
15:43 Speaker 03 Fucking asshole.
15:45 Speaker 02 I don't want to know. It's like after when I do a show, sometimes if I'm in the green room after the dressing room, the window's open, you can hear people leaving the show. And even if it's good stuff, I'm gonna close the window. It's like, I, I, I just don't want to hear anyone speaking about me. I don't wanna read anything red, written about me like that. I just don't want to know.
16:02 Speaker 03 Yeah, well, do you know what?
16:04 Speaker 02 I kind of. Zen, zen.
16:06 Speaker 03 I kinda love it that people who've been saying awful things about people, because remember I told the story on the pod about that girl who found her trolls? Hers were from Tattle, but they were actually ruining, ruining her life. And she found them. And people who are doing things like that, because it's criminal sometimes, it's actually, it's so bad with the saying it's criminal. So that's why you'll be able to find out who they are. Imagine it's someone that you think is really normal. You'll be like, what?
16:31 Speaker 02 Oh, but I think it's a slippery slope. I think you start normal and then you can kinda spiral into. I'd say there's a great sense of community on it, do you know what I mean? And I tell you, they're like, you're Tattle buds. You're like, hey. And you go into the evening and you like, you're like, oh yeah, there's that other Tattler and you kinda chat to them. And I'd say that's, you know, it's that kind of, it's the sense of camaraderie and community that we love.
16:54 Speaker 03 Great, great calls on there.
16:56 Speaker 02 Yeah, well, they'd say that coming, that's, see, this is the problem with it. It's part, part of the human condition that people connect over negativity quicker than they connect over positivity. So if you have a mutual enemy or if you have someone you mutually don't like with someone.
17:10 Speaker 03 Don't like, yeah.
17:11 Speaker 02 It's a real bonding experience, you know? And I think that's why Tattle has been, has been as big as it has been. But the, the, the reason you brought it up, or I think I brought it up, um, is that they have, we didn't know who was behind it. So you couldn't sue anyone because you didn't know who to start suing at the, at the top. And now a couple from Northern Ireland have taken him to court and they've found out who's behind it and he's been outed. So now they're kinda saying, what happens out of this? What happens next? Is everyone on Tattle gonna get outed? I don't know.
17:40 Speaker 03 It's so exciting.
17:41 Speaker 02 It's so toxic. It's so toxic, but also kind of funny in a weird way.
17:46 Speaker 03 It's, no, it's, I just think it's so insane because that girl that I told you about, she had, that one of the people that she found was 14 other people. She was 14 people on tattle. So she wasn't even, they weren't her friends. That was just her conversing with herself. It's like.
18:02 Speaker 02 That's impressive.
18:04 Speaker 03 It's, it's.
18:04 Speaker 02 You know?
18:05 Speaker 03 I think it's like really, I don't know if it's therapy that can help you. I think you're gonna have to really go in somewhere. You're gonna have to spend the time, a time and a place.
18:13 Speaker 02 I can, I can see the appeal of it. I think if you're following people online and they're rubbing you up the wrong way and they're, I mean, you're not particularly happy with where you are and what you're doing in your life. I'm not saying everyone on tattle is like depressed. I don't, I don't think that either. But if someone you feel is kind of showboating or like lording something over you, uh, you know, it doesn't bring out the best in us. And then you find a thread where all these other people hate that person as well. And you're like, oh, hey fam. Do you know what I mean? This is a way to spend an evening. Tattle, tattle, tattle, tattle, tattle, tattle.
18:48 Speaker 03 Darietering social services. Do it.
18:51 Speaker 02 Yeah. Now that's fucking crazy. I wonder, do they actually think that children are in trouble or are they doing it?
18:57 Speaker 03 One of the, Ashley James, who, uh, who I follow, she was putting it up. She had people sent over and she was like, they've wasted social services time on a loving home because this group of people had started this shit. It's, I just think of the whole thing. I just think it is so insane. I couldn't be arsed. And if I don't like somebody, I just mute them. And I have, do I have people muted? A lot of people. Yes. It's not because I don't like them. I just don't want to see their stuff every day.
19:24 Speaker 02 Yeah. Well, we'll be keeping a close eye on the tattle story as it, as it rolls out because I also saw there was a girl on TikTok that I came across who was a tattler. And she was saying.
19:35 Speaker 03 Shut up.
19:36 Speaker 02 Yeah. And she was saying, oh, what?
19:38 Speaker 03 She was saying, oh.
19:39 Speaker 02 She did a video. She was like, oh, what? Cause I called you a sap once. I've ruined your life and you're having a mental health crisis. She was like defending herself. And I was like, this is.
19:50 Speaker 02 Quite something, quite something.
19:53 Speaker 03 I think this is gonna unfold into just endless amounts of madness for us.
19:59 Speaker 02 There's a lot of finger pointing going on, there'll be a lot of, you know, big reveals. Or maybe not, because there is that GDPR side to it as well, I don't know if you can out people, I guess.
20:08 Speaker 03 I think if you call someone a gbaghe fine, but if you've tried to get somebody arrested, probably not fine. I'd be worried if I was you.
20:16 Speaker 02 Calling someone a gbaghe online is different to interfering with their livelihood and their family and all that. You know, come on now, that's, I would say, a bit much.
20:26 Speaker 03 We're gonna have to say no to that.
20:28 Speaker 02 I look forward to having us both revealed as two top takers about on each other's threads, imagine.
20:41 Speaker 03 Okay, we've two emails, hot and heavy and culture corner.
20:44 Speaker 02 Ooh, I like culture corner.
20:47 Speaker 03 Is it the fact that we didn't do it, we started and never did it again?
20:50 Speaker 02 Yeah, go on, hit me, hit me with the consequences of our actions.
20:54 Speaker 03 The spoofer of the week. Lads, I know you never follow through with things, but what the fuck happened to the culture? Come on, like.
21:05 Speaker 02 Yeah, no, fair.
21:06 Speaker 03 I have one.
21:08 Speaker 02 No, that is fair, that is fair, we need to put that back on the topic list.
21:13 Speaker 03 I feel sometimes that we do do recommendations, that's kind of what our culture corner has turned into. I have started reading Sociopath because I just thought it'd be an interesting book to read. And it is an interesting book to read about a woman who's a sociopath and she's writing about it and it's just, it's a very good book. I have to say it gets slightly repetitive in parts, but I'm enjoying it.
21:35 Speaker 02 I started that and I did not finish it.
21:38 Speaker 03 Yeah, you see, I'm a quarter of the way through.
21:40 Speaker 02 She wasn't sociopathic enough for me, to be honest, I think that would be a issue.
21:44 Speaker 03 There's no mother.
21:46 Speaker 02 She was a bit light on the sociopathy and I was like, nah. I kind of, sorry now, whoever the writer is. It was a very well-written book, but I didn't, it didn't really hold my interest sadly.
21:55 Speaker 03 Well, I'm definitely not a sociopath, but I interviewed someone who I know that you're pals with, Joanne, but I'm obsessed with, like really obsessed with them. Adam Kay today.
22:06 Speaker 02 Oh yeah, love him.
22:08 Speaker 03 So he's written a fiction book now and his book, This Is Gonna Hurt was one of his books and it was the, if you haven't read This Is Gonna Hurt, it's really old, but it's his diary from when he was a doctor and then he did a TV show out of it. And it really is, it's one of those books that I'd go back to reading. But this one is called A Particularly Nasty Case and it's his first fiction book. And he's such a good writer that that is gonna be a good book.
22:28 Speaker 02 Great. I actually chose This Is Gonna Hurt as my book for a BBC book podcast.
22:36 Speaker 03 That's a good book, did you, and they didn't want it?
22:39 Speaker 02 No, they did, they did. But it was, I just remember other people were choosing like Ulysses and all. And then I think sometimes people can kind of over egg the pudding on these things. Do you know what I mean? They're trying to like, you feel a lot of pressure. They're like, oh, your favourite book ever. There's no such thing, I don't think. Anyway.
22:54 Speaker 03 I think it changes.
22:55 Speaker 02 Different times, yeah, at different times of your life and everything like that. But I did, I went in with This Is Gonna Hurt and I, the other books were quite lofty. And I'm not saying like This Is Gonna Hurt, it's not that it's lowbrow or anything. It just, I felt a bit like, oh, should I have gone in with Milk? Or one of those kind of like, you know, Pulitzer vibes. But I loved This Is Gonna Hurt. I love, love, love. And I read his other one, the second one. He had another one.
23:17 Speaker 03 There's two, he's three now. He's, he did three like that and they're all really, really good. So that's, I feel cultured after that. And Joanne's on a barge.
23:28 Speaker 02 Also, I am, well, I, do you wanna hear the book that I'm listening to at my ears at the moment?
23:32 Speaker 03 If we're gonna get into the culture corner of it all.
23:34 Speaker 02 It's called Waiting for Britney Spears by a man called Jeff White.
23:39 Speaker 02 Yeah.
23:41 Speaker 03 She's back on her Britney buzz.
23:43 Speaker 02 I assume it's like a kind of Waiting for Godot vibe, but not as in like the play in the name. But he, basically Jeff Wise became a celebrity, like tabloid journalist in, in America. But he accidentally, he was in the school that she filmed One More Time, the video in.
24:02 Speaker 02 Hit me baby one more time. It's a school in LA and they used to, they used to film things in there a lot. But he went into the shoes, he kind of walked in by accident and watched it play out and then became kind of, and then later on in his life, ended up being a celebrity journalist and was kind of following around, reminding about Britney Spears. So that's what I'm listening to at the moment. And at the moment, it's quite good. Hasn't kicked off yet, but it's only the start.
24:25 Speaker 03 You've really put me off. Sociopath now. Because I was like, and I'm like, what are the ways of it? I'm like, I am going to start Adam Kay's anyway, but I'm going to keep trying with Sociopath. I hate giving up books. It's my one thing that I'm like, I've only given up one book in my life. I'm like, I need to push through.
24:40 Speaker 02 Yeah, totally. Yeah. For a sense of achievement.
24:44 Speaker 03 Yeah, exactly. Also, my book is still on sale, Big Mate, if you would like to read it. It is, I've heard it's a lovely holiday read. I haven't read it on the beach myself, but it's out and the link is in my bio.
24:58 Speaker 03 Thank you so much for listening. That was the bonus episode of My Therapist Gifted Me.
25:02 Speaker 02 Also, if anyone's planning a night, an evening out, I have the standard tour, which is currently rolling. Some shows are sold, some shows that aren't sold. Cardiff, we have a second night there. Plymouth, Bournemouth, Yeovil, Canterbury, Stockton-on-Tees, Newcastle, Isle of Man, Oxford.
25:19 Speaker 03 Isle of Man, lovely.
25:22 Speaker 02 And we've added a second Dubai.
25:23 Speaker 03 I saw the second Dubai.
25:24 Speaker 02 Hi Dubai.
25:25 Speaker 03 That means you'll get four days in Dubai.
25:27 Speaker 02 No, it's the same day.
25:29 Speaker 03 Oh no.
25:31 Speaker 02 You have one day in Dubai. Yeah.
25:33 Speaker 03 Are you gonna fly? I had to fly in and out of there in one day. I was absolutely raging.
25:38 Speaker 02 It's a 24 hour turnaround. Yeah, I know. It's a lot, but there you go. I know. Don't tell Greta.
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