Pod Insights My Therapist Ghosted Me MTGM EXTRA! "Should I...?" About this episode When it comes down to it, both Vogue & Joanne can be easily taken in... This week, Vogue is on a flat Earth buzz... Let's see how that develops. Back in London, Joanne explains what the 'loosey goosey' house was when she was a kid. Plus, an emailer who isn't sure whether to make the jump or not.
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Transcript 0:01 Speaker 00 This is a Global Player original podcast.
0:10 Speaker 01 Hello and welcome to my therapist goes with me, the bonus episode with myself, Vogue Williams and herself, Joanne McNally.
0:21 Speaker 01 Are you pulling a vicar street in the Apollo? Are you just living there now?
0:27 Speaker 02 Oh, I know because we've added an eighth one. I know it's bananas. And it's on sale now, by the way. Thank you. Thank you, Vogue. That was a very, that was a very handy little segue for me.
0:37 Speaker 01 Well, I looked at it and I was like, well, at least she'll be in London now for the year instead of Dublin. It was Dublin for Prasacco. It seems to be London for.
0:44 Speaker 02 London. It's, it's well, so Dublin's mostly John and March and then there's a couple more London. We've added, there's three fresh Apollos now and on sale for February. I know, it's great. You have to come again.
0:59 Speaker 01 I'm going. Do you know what? I'm going to come once in London and another time in Dublin.
1:03 Speaker 02 You can, I'll give you a box on your own. It'd be great. Just you dangling out of a box. With royal hair on you.
1:10 Speaker 01 Trigger warning, trigger. Joanne's my trigger. What was that thing I said my therapist was saying to me? My tipping point. You're my tipping point.
1:18 Speaker 02 You're tipping point. Oh, what? For lesbianism? Was that it?
1:21 Speaker 01 No, not for lesbianism. For, for when I want to not have a drink. Joanne would, my tipping point would be zero.
1:26 Speaker 02 Sorry.
1:27 Speaker 01 For lesbianism? You wish.
1:31 Speaker 02 I thought it was because you fancy me on stage.
1:33 Speaker 01 I do fancy on stage. I'll leave directly after the show and I won't touch anyone. I'll be like that man wanking off in the corner.
1:41 Speaker 02 It wasn't even the corner. It was full display. It was right in the middle of the aisle.
1:45 Speaker 01 Absolute bloody sick. Are you still in Dub-? No, wait, where are you?
1:48 Speaker 02 I am in London. Where are you?
1:50 Speaker 01 Oh, I'm still in Dublin and it is absolutely lashing.
1:54 Speaker 02 Lashing rain. Well, I'm off today and when I say.
1:59 Speaker 01 I won't be ringing you. Well, you're not really off. This is work. It's kind of work.
2:03 Speaker 02 See, Vogue, that's what you and I differ. I enjoy this. You see me as labour.
2:08 Speaker 01 Excuse me, Joanne. I actually enjoy myself more than you can imagine on here.
2:12 Speaker 02 Tell your face.
2:18 Speaker 01 I have to tell you, I'm going real far down. I'm touching off Flat Earth there vibes here. I actually had to say to Sven there, I was like, because he's going to Antarctica, he's starting his run soon.
2:29 Speaker 02 Oh.
2:30 Speaker 01 Yeah, and one of them, yeah.
2:32 Speaker 02 Is he allowed to wear a harness?
2:35 Speaker 01 No, no harness for him. So, yeah. What would he be harnessed for? He's running and cycling.
2:42 Speaker 02 No, but I mean, where does he keep his bits and bobs?
2:46 Speaker 02 Like, do you remember the running harness that you told me I couldn't wear because it was embarrassing?
2:49 Speaker 01 I would hope, I'd hope for all of our sakes, he wouldn't be wearing a harness. I hope he has pockets of some kind.
2:55 Speaker 02 Running around the Antarctic, I need to keep his keys in his pockets.
2:58 Speaker 01 Listen, I don't, I just don't think anyone deserves a harness.
3:01 Speaker 02 I think if you're running around Antarctica, you'd put your keys in the lockbox, wouldn't you?
3:05 Speaker 01 I don't think you get to take your keys with you, but like, I've been looking at this stuff and I was like, sitting with Svenny there and I was like, and so what's this, what's this ice wall? And he was like, Vogue. And I was like, what? I was like, have you seen it? And he was like, Vogue, that's what the flat-earthers think is the end of the world. There's no, and I'm like, I need to stop looking at the internet because I was like, oh my gosh, look at that in Antarctica, just into oblivion.
3:27 Speaker 02 Well, so, go on, I didn't know this. What's this? I love a conspiracy.
3:30 Speaker 01 There's like, there's like an ice wall that the, that the flat-earthers believe. So it's just like sheer drop. You don't know what's below it, but it's made up. It's not true. There is no just sheer drop of nothingness. But like, I saw it online and it's like, this is the end. This is, and I'm like, oh my god.
3:46 Speaker 02 I thought it was when he was showing you his run and that he was going to run off the side of the earth at the end. Sorry, you saw it somewhere else on the internet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're turning it to me. You're becoming quite gullible.
3:57 Speaker 01 Well, it's because of what I'm getting served up. And then I'm looking at this spaceship that's coming to earth. Remember the one I told you about, about six weeks ago? Still on the way supposedly.
4:06 Speaker 02 I thought they, I thought they discovered that was just a teeny tiny comet that was just going to explode into splintering, no?
4:12 Speaker 01 Well, it probably is, but what I'm getting served up is like, it looks like a bloody lovely hotel that's coming towards us. And I'm like, oh god, where will I be? Who will I be with? Do I need to say goodbye to my mother?
4:25 Speaker 02 I, my, um, what my algorithm serves me up apologies, any and all apologies. On when people do a public apology on their Instagram account. I don't know why, I obviously have engaged with them at some point and I do read every single one. Regardless of whether it's a dog groomer in Carlo or if it's like Elon Musk, which of course he doesn't apologize. But you know what I mean? As in any single, whatever standard of apology, however, whatever profile the person has. When someone's like.
4:53 Speaker 01 I like to see the apologies.
4:54 Speaker 02 Oh, they're so, some of them are like, like, and this is, look, no shade, if you feel the need to apologize something, you know, you can't criticize someone who is going to apologize, but you know these like.
5:05 Speaker 01 I never have that urge.
5:09 Speaker 02 You, you apologize in your own way. You're, you're, you're, you're a, I'm sorry you feel that way, but that's how you apologize.
5:17 Speaker 01 I'm sorry what I've done has seemed to have upset you, but that seems like a you problem.
5:22 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but you're not, you're a bit of an I'm sorry butter.
5:27 Speaker 01 If you're getting the I'm sorry, it's coming with a but.
5:30 Speaker 02 It's a coming with a but, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a caveat.
5:33 Speaker 01 That's how I spell it, S O R R Y B U T.
5:36 Speaker 02 There's a McWilliams caveat. McWilliams? Did I just put our names together?
5:41 Speaker 01 Peggy Williams.
5:44 Speaker 02 Oh my God. Did I just call you Vogue McWilliams?
5:49 Speaker 01 Yeah, Joanne McNally. Joanne Nally.
5:51 Speaker 02 I'm losing my mind. Um, yeah, there's a, there's a Williams apology that I'm, I'm sorry, but I'm also correct.
6:01 Speaker 01 It is, I'm not just saying this, and I know loads of people think this about themselves, but it's unusual now if I, if I have to apologize for something. It's unusual.
6:10 Speaker 02 Yeah, you can sense that when you, you can sense you're not in your comfort zone. On the very, very few times I've seen it urban on the receiving end of it, it's clear it's not your, it's not your natural state.
6:24 Speaker 01 It really isn't, it isn't. And like, I apologise to Spencer now by just being a little bit nicer. Even if I know I've done something wrong, I would just be like, would you wanna go to Japan, Spencer?
6:34 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry about the affair, but I'm not gonna bring, I'm not gonna bring up that ladder rope. Would you like to go to Japan?
6:43 Speaker 02 Here's a business class ticket for Japan, babe.
6:45 Speaker 01 Yeah, that's exactly how I apologise.
6:47 Speaker 02 Yeah, I'm sorry, but you did leave the house for an hour, Spencer. So what was a girl to do?
6:52 Speaker 01 Yeah, precisely.
6:54 Speaker 02 I actually think apologising, it's, remember I was telling you my, I was actually talking about this, about you and me in an interview I did the other week about the Estelle, Esther, sorry, I just woke up, but I was in late last night for a show. Esther Perel.
7:07 Speaker 01 Yeah.
7:08 Speaker 02 One of my favourites, kinda.
7:10 Speaker 01 Is she the Latham?
7:12 Speaker 02 No, that's Mel Robbins. Esther Perel, you'd love her. She, she is a sexual psychologist, I guess.
7:18 Speaker 01 Oh, you've sent me stuff of hers before, yes.
7:22 Speaker 02 And she's very much, whatever best books ever is called Mating in Captivity. And it's actually about kinda how monogamy probably doesn't suit us anymore because we live so long and all this kinda jazz. But she has a theory on relationships, which we, we are a relationship, we're not a romantic relationship. We're a friendship and a business relationship. And she.
7:46 Speaker 01 You're dead right. On the eighth of Apollo, you might change your mind.
7:48 Speaker 02 When you're ovulating, you'd fucking, you'd climb a bin. I've seen you.
7:52 Speaker 01 I'm afraid to start ovulating. That's why when I saw the eighth of Apollo, I was like, Jesus Christ.
7:57 Speaker 02 Jesus Christ, I'm a little wet, am I?
8:02 Speaker 02 When we're ovulating, women, that's apparently women swing their hips more when they're ovulating and everything because they want to get in practice, they wanna get knocked up. Anyway, Esther's theory is rip and repair. She said actually disagreements or kinda tension, or like, sorry, no disagreements and kind of having it out with each other, but then repairing really quickly actually makes a relationship stronger. Like if you never rip, you never have the chance to repair and all the, every time you, you know this as well, you fall out with someone and then when you, when you get it back together and you kind of say, you both say you're bits and then you're at peace again, you do feel closer because you've come back to each other.
8:41 Speaker 01 You do and you also feel more like everything is kind of back to square one and empty and everything's been put on the table, things that you would have let slide for ages. And I think even that, who was saying that they never fight with their wife? George Clooney, but now I don't think he fights with her because she is an amazing human rights lawyer. So I just don't think he'd be able to win anyway. So it would seem futile to fight with her.
9:01 Speaker 02 I'd say they don't fight because she's never around.
9:05 Speaker 01 I was gonna say, I'd say they don't fight because she's so amazing.
9:10 Speaker 02 But no, I don't think that's amazing.
9:12 Speaker 01 They must, they scrap over the net in espresso because she probably wants to get a sage and he's got the deal with an espresso and like they're scrapping over the sage and the espresso.
9:22 Speaker 02 She does seem like, she does seem like an espresso gal. But you know what as well? And I don't know, look, I've no kids, which is something I'm saying a lot at the moment because I'm doing a lot of press at the moment. I was like, there's a lot of chat about bulimia, adoption of children at the moment. There's a lot. I'll be, I look forward to shutting the fuck up once these shows are sold.
9:39 Speaker 01 That's great. Well, that's what you can ask. That's not too bad. I can ask when I'm gonna have another child and, um, I'm like mom guilt.
9:49 Speaker 02 Do you?
9:50 Speaker 01 That's all I guess. That's all.
9:51 Speaker 02 Well, sorry, just to clarify, just to clarify, I have no problem talking about those things. They're all part of the kind of story of how I got to be doing the torch. You know what I mean? But yeah, mom guilt. Yeah. Lily Allen gets asked a lot about that. Sorry, I did wait to bring her up. And I just also want you to know I've moved on from Lily now. I'm over it.
10:10 Speaker 01 You're done with it?
10:11 Speaker 02 It's out of my system.
10:12 Speaker 01 Now I'm getting served up loads of stuff like that though, because obviously we've been talking about it and now I'm finding myself getting more and more interested. But there's a lot of, I've seen a lot of backlashy articles now, I have to say.
10:22 Speaker 02 Well, do you know what's interesting? I remember we actually, when we spoke about it on the podcast, you were talking about the fact that, well, David Harbour's hanging out with kids, which is nice. Was it you who was saying it? Or maybe it wasn't. Maybe it wasn't you. Maybe someone else was saying to me like, well, she cheated on, on previous partners and she gave a dog back and she doesn't remember how many abortions she had and all this stuff. So like, she's not perfect. I'm like, no, no, no one's saying she's, I'm not saying she's perfect. I'm saying I just think it's a. Excellent album. I don't need to
10:50 Speaker 01 Yeah.
10:50 Speaker 02 Kind of understand
10:51 Speaker 01 She's very pretty honest.
10:52 Speaker 02 Outside of that album. I don't, it doesn't matter to me what other things she has done in her life. I can still enjoy the album, do you know what I mean?
10:58 Speaker 01 She said she gave her
11:01 Speaker 01 She said she gave her puppy back because at eight, her pals were like, just don't say anything, just don't say.
11:06 Speaker 02 I know, that was, that was, that was quite the reveal, Lily. I probably would have kept that to myself. I mean, I think she got more shit for that, for saying she doesn't know how many abortions she had. People don't like people giving back dogs or children. They're very against it.
11:18 Speaker 01 No. Oh my God. I'll never forget that YouTube couple who adopted a child and then gave him back like two years ago. It was like, fucking hell.
11:25 Speaker 02 And again, I would have kept that to myself. Maybe got a cardboard cutout of the kid for Christmas cards or something to kind of keep him in the mix.
11:31 Speaker 01 I think they tried. They tried to keep themselves. People were like, where's the, where's the, the dog? Where's the child? Like, people were always asking me about Winston. Because he wasn't always in my content, but he wasn't really arsed with it. And now he's just not in it.
11:45 Speaker 02 Well, we also, Winston was, you could see he wasn't, he wasn't buzzing off the content creation.
11:51 Speaker 01 No.
11:51 Speaker 02 He wa, he wasn't, he wasn't a thirsty bitch. The other one is.
11:56 Speaker 01 Bertie is absolutely bloody mad for it.
12:08 Speaker 02 This is one for you, Vogue.
12:10 Speaker 01 Okay.
12:10 Speaker 02 I would assume that if you are a very wealthy parent.
12:16 Speaker 01 Yeah.
12:16 Speaker 02 Like, and if, so I think a lot of couples, they argue over, because they're tired and it's about childcare and about if they, if they're trying to, if they're struggling to make ends meet, blah, blah, blah, all that shit, right? And they can't do their, they don't get nights out that often because they have to pay for babysitter and cost of living and all that. But if you're loaded, and I'm not saying, I'm actually not saying this about you and Spencer, I'm asking about the George and Amal. If you're absolutely loaded.
12:42 Speaker 02 So you have no financial problems and you have, you can afford to have childcare 24 hours a day, seven days a week. What do you argue about? Do you reckon sex, money? No, sex.
12:54 Speaker 01 I don't, I don't really know because, because like we do have childcare and I, and I do say that, but like also having childcare, like it's still like, I'd say that like the running of the house and everything, but maybe they're not running their house. Like I, like I kind of look after the running of the house and I like spend a lot of time with the kids and also with nannies, like to try and, we got our nanny and we like to try and get somebody who's essentially home help. So because when you're there all the time, some nannies don't like that and they won't take the job. So trying to find somebody who doesn't mind that you're around quite a lot because we have one because I work from home a lot and if I want to do something with them. But I don't know what you would, look at me, I'm making excuses for having a nanny. I don't feel like I need to make excuses.
13:35 Speaker 02 No, you don't. And you know what as well, people, I know people, the term nanny really annoys people. It's just childcare really, isn't it? But just.
13:43 Speaker 01 I should just start saying childcare, yeah. But I don't know. I think you, I think you fight over just like, there's always somebody who's doing more than the other. And regardless of like, I mean, I don't know, Kim Kardashian has a chef and everything like that and like, but like they're her kids at the end of the day. So they want to spend most of their time with her. So it is, that's the kind of stuff that becomes stressful because like obviously you want to spend all your time with them, but then you feel like you're doing more and more and more. And it can be, it can be quite full on. Like sometimes I feel like my day is just so hectic until, until the kids go to bed. And I'd say that like Svenny, of course he helps and does stuff, but they just kind of want to be with me a lot of the time.
14:23 Speaker 02 That's the big, that's the big lie sell to me about nannying. I'm assuming if I had a nanny, I wouldn't have to do anything. I'd just be waving at them out from my apartment while they're all out in the common enjoying themselves. Like I wouldn't, I'm assuming.
14:38 Speaker 01 You're not looking for home help then.
14:43 Speaker 02 No.
14:45 Speaker 02 I'd like the nanny to collect them at seven AM from the room next door to me.
14:50 Speaker 01 You won't though. That's the problem. You won't. When you, if you have a child, which I think you actually will. And I think that you'll have the baby and you'll think that you want to do that, but, but, but you'll become so obsessed that you'll just want to spend all your free time with them. And then you'll be like, hang on a second. I've no free time anymore. And then that can get quite stressful. You need to try and like carve out a little bit of time on your own. Sometimes like I went, that's why I go get up and go walking early in the morning or running. That's my own time.
15:17 Speaker 02 I love, I like getting parents. I think you're a really good mom, you know?
15:21 Speaker 01 Thanks, Joanne. I love it. I love it. I actually do. I, I, do you know what worries me? And it's, uh, it's, it's so, so long away, but I love it so much. And I love the chaos of all of it. I want to have, when we, when we get our like forever home in London, I want to have that. I want our house to be the house that everybody comes to. So that they can all just hang out there and they have a nice time. They've got their own area. Cause I want it like, I love having people over. And then maybe when they grow up, they'll just be like, oh, we might as well just live at mom till we're thirty.
15:51 Speaker 02 Well, you're going to be that parent who they're all going to be, all the, all your kids' friends are going to be drinking in that, in the downstairs area of the house. One of my mates, we had a Lucy Goosey house and everyone stayed the night there because we could get away with coming in late. We could get away with drinking. And then eventually Pat copped on and she was always trying to ring her mother to make sure I was there and Pat ruined the party. But yeah, that'll be you.
16:13 Speaker 01 She ruined the Lucy Goosey. Now, the only thing is I would be like more, I'd be more strict than Spencer. Like I wouldn't really, I just want them to be there and have a nice time. I don't want them taking the piss out of me and like getting pissed and stuff like that. I don't want to have to deal with that crap.
16:25 Speaker 02 Kids do it though, don't they? They always find a way. They always find a way.
16:30 Speaker 01 Well, you always wanted somewhere to hang out because you're hanging out in walls so much. Like this, it's Halloween now here today. And I just remember being so excited for Halloween to just go and stand outside, do nothing. Not trick or treating when I was older, just standing there, just standing, like waiting to score somebody.
16:46 Speaker 02 I can still.
16:46 Speaker 01 I was waiting quite a long time.
16:48 Speaker 02 No, no. Halloween was a gamey night. Halloween was, it was a sexy time for your teenager.
16:54 Speaker 01 It could be a sexy gamey time, but, but not for all of us who haven't grown into our mouth yet. So the Halloween was only fun to me.
17:03 Speaker 02 Well.
17:03 Speaker 01 It's true.
17:05 Speaker 02 I, I can still feel the ice, the, the, the wind blowing through my skin when I think of going out on Halloween, because you wanna be, you wanna score, you're out to score lads, which is why.
17:15 Speaker 01 So you're not wearing any clothes, there might be a zip up, maybe, but doubtful.
17:20 Speaker 02 Yeah, you're trying to be cute, you're trying to be, you're trying to be like a sexy 15 year old, which is weird. And so you'd be out in your, you'd be skirts, like a, a sheer tight, a boot, maybe a crop top.
17:35 Speaker 01 Oh, you were on the sheer tights, oh no, I'd always, I used to have like a skirt, like a belt, I mean, they were a regular size than everyone else, but they'd be like a belt on me, I loved them, and then the jeans down to like.
17:44 Speaker 02 Yeah.
17:45 Speaker 01 Partially showing your.
17:47 Speaker 02 Yeah, your front bum and your back bum, yeah.
17:50 Speaker 01 Your front bum. We have to do an email.
17:56 Speaker 02 Yes, go, go first.
17:58 Speaker 01 This is called, should I? Okay, without reading it, what, I'm gonna say, go for it. What are you gonna say?
18:06 Speaker 02 I'll, I'll take the opposing argument and say, don't do it, just for balance.
18:11 Speaker 01 Okay. Hi Joanne, Vogue, Vogue, whatever you prefer, and Joe, I'm 32 years old, I'm single and childless and live in Copenhagen in a nice apartment with a great group of friends and a nice job.
18:23 Speaker 02 Glorious.
18:24 Speaker 01 Yeah, they're, they're all rides in Copenhagen, you can't live there unless you're a ride, so you must be a ride. Still, I can't shake the feeling that something is missing and always has been. I'm not talking about having a man and children, absolutely fuck that, but my heart urines for London.
18:39 Speaker 02 Oh, oh.
18:41 Speaker 01 I lived there a few years ago for a semester abroad and it was the best time ever. I still visit a few times a year and I'm at my happiest there. I've now landed a job in marketing and seeing as I happen to have Irish nationality, it's fairly easy and visa, a visa free move, but I'm scared shitless. Starting over at 32 is a lot and moving away from aging parents, friends, having children and the very stable life I have is scary. I currently live alone in my big flat, but I know that I'll have to pay twice the price in London for a mouldy room and a thousand flatmates and no heat during the winter. Is it worth it?
19:18 Speaker 01 I know you two both made the move in your thirties while your, and while your careers are way more impressive than mine. Well, we don't know, we don't know that for sure. How did you overcome all the scary emotions? The not having friends and family around, the loneliness, the expenses, the cultural differences, the having to start socially from scratch. All of it. I've been offered my dream, but something is holding me back and I'm not sure it's anything other than my very comfortable comfort zone. That is screaming to me, I must be an utter gobshite. Should I make the move? Should I not? What would you do in my situation? Majesty, but truthful. Love the pod. Oh, do it. I didn't, I think that you're overthinking it. I didn't even really think about it. I kind of was just like, oh, I'm moving to London now. And like, it's.
20:00 Speaker 02 You were young though. What age were you when you came over?
20:02 Speaker 01 No, I was probably like twenty nine, thirty. And I'd come back from Australia and I just feel like one of my friends gave me, I don't know if James O'Neill told you this, we have a friend James O'Neill. He said to me when I was moving there, cause I was, I like, I must have been nervous for him to have said this to me and he was like, you have to work for London or London won't work for you. So you can't just move to London and just expect everything to be brilliant. And you're gonna have a great time and stuff like that. It's like any city, you have to immerse yourself in stuff. You have to like get out and about and do stuff and make some friends. You'll make friends and work. Make sure you go out with them, make an effort, go and see all the different things to see in London, get involved in. Sorry to say it, run clubs. Sorry.
20:42 Speaker 02 I was all about it until he said that.
20:46 Speaker 01 I'm sorry. They do this running club. I forget what it's called. You'd know it. It's the big park run, park run. Now, I haven't gotten involved yet and they do it on a Saturday morning in Battersea and there's so many people. And everyone just seems to have a really, really fun, nice time. And I see people clogging up the coffee shops. Cause I can't go when they've finished their run club. And, um, and it just seems like, so it's doing little bits and bobs like that, but you're thirty two. If you don't do it now. Like, when are you gonna do it? Like, is this opportunity gonna come when you're thirty six again? Just do it now while you can.
21:18 Speaker 02 A hundred percent. One of the best things about being a single child free person is you can change up your life like that. Can I click my, can you hear my click of my fingers? Like that. You're not locked to Copenhagen. Now, the elderly, the elderly, aging parents, that is, that is something to be considered, but like, it's not far. London is, in my, in my opinion, one of the best cities in the world. It completely changed my life. I was gagging to get over here. I just had to wait until I had a bit of a job. I, I think I waited till I got, no, no, because even when I got signed by Curb, I think I was still living in Dublin, coming back and forth. But I was in a relationship at the time in Dublin and I hadn't a pot to piss in because I had no job. I was just doing open spots for free. The second I got over here, I'll be honest, it was lonely at the start.
22:03 Speaker 02 And also lockdown and all that shit. But, but like, some of the friends I have over here now are like, they're so close to me. It's like I've known them all my life. Do you know what I mean? And it's one of the best things I've ever done. We, we're very pro London. We're very pro London.
22:17 Speaker 01 I think London is such a like cultural hub as well. There's just, everyone's quite inclusive. Like, and I don't, I don't find that people are like, they don't say hello or anything like that. I find it quite a friendly city. And I think that everyone's happy for everyone to get involved. And I really, I just, and you don't have to live in a complete shithole. Like, I have lived in a couple of shitholes in London, but I think it's, it is good to share. Like, if you can find a flat share. I think for the first year, treat it like, like uni where you're, like, you'd rather be in uni accommodation where you're gonna find some friends and people that like, you could possibly move out with after that. I would, I'd definitely do a flat share. You could get a nicer ish place. And just be care, my only thing is find out where your job is and make sure you don't live too far away from that.
23:01 Speaker 01 Cause you actually, you won't understand how big London is until you're here. I once got a job, I was living in Stockwell and I was working in Lewisham. It took me, I had to get two tubes, a train and a bus to work because I didn't know that it was so far. And it, that, that will be a nightmare if you do that. So.
23:16 Speaker 02 Yeah. So I'm moving from South West London to East London.
23:20 Speaker 01 Well, we haven't fully decided that yet.
23:23 Speaker 02 I'm going to look at houses next week.
23:24 Speaker 01 Well, I don't care.
23:26 Speaker 02 But it's like
23:27 Speaker 01 Disgusting.
23:28 Speaker 02 It's like I'm moving, I feel like I'm moving country. And it's only over the other side of the city. But yeah, London is huge, but that's the crack of it. And you can literally go in and watch La Miserable tomorrow if you want, or you can go, there's so much to do. I mean, La Miserable is probably a kind of a wild, a wild example.
23:45 Speaker 01 That's a bit depressing. I mean, just go to something.
23:46 Speaker 02 I love La Miserable.
23:48 Speaker 01 Go to Hamilton.
23:49 Speaker 02 The Tina Turner musical.
23:52 Speaker 01 That's finished, I think, John.
23:53 Speaker 02 No.
23:54 Speaker 01 Yeah, I think so. Cassie, can we, can we fact check that? I'm sure, that was brilliant. Did you see that?
24:00 Speaker 02 I went to see it. Yeah, it was great.
24:01 Speaker 01 Tina Turner is like my icon. I loved Hamilton. It's so good.
24:05 Speaker 02 I haven't seen it yet.
24:06 Speaker 01 Oh, I'll go with you. Let's do, let's do a date.
24:08 Speaker 02 I'd love to go. I'd love to.
24:09 Speaker 01 That's our Christmas present to each other. I'll get you a ticket to Hamilton and you get me a ticket. Yours will just be up in the back stalls with a restricted view.
24:16 Speaker 02 I was gonna say, Vogue.
24:21 Speaker 01 Sorry, John, you're already up there.
24:22 Speaker 02 Yeah, I, I, I thought we were gonna sit together now.
24:25 Speaker 01 No, you've got a restricted view.
24:28 Speaker 02 Yeah.
24:30 Speaker 02 While you're in the wings. Doing content for them. But do, do it now. Like honestly, because the thing is, you can sit on something for years and not do it. And then like, you're better off doing it. If you don't like it, move home. And also the great thing about being in London is you're so close to Europe. You can just get the Euro dart, the Euro train over to the continent and have a ball over there.
24:53 Speaker 01 There's loads of fun stuff to do.
24:55 Speaker 02 It's only half a skipper.
24:56 Speaker 01 If you do move, let us know.
24:58 Speaker 02 Vogue will introduce you to our own club.
24:59 Speaker 01 Well, I'm not actually in the one club. I just watch it.
25:02 Speaker 02 Oh yeah, let us know your movements.
25:03 Speaker 01 Yeah.
25:04 Speaker 02 That's it. Okay. I enjoyed that morning chat.
25:06 Speaker 01 That was a nice morning chat. Thanks everyone for listening and please keep sending in your emails to
25:12 Speaker 02 Hello.
25:13 Speaker 01 At mtgmpod.com.
25:17 Speaker 02 There was a girl come up to me after one of the shows and she was talking about the, um, Bear by Vogue loop story.
25:24 Speaker 02 And she was like, more emails. And I was like, I know, I know. We do ask for them.
25:29 Speaker 01 We do get them. We only ever do one because we shy it on so much, but that was a great email. I'm clipping that up now for the Bear by Vogue page.
25:36 Speaker 02 I'm, you should. I'm always about, I'm always about changing shit up. Change shit up as much as you can. That's why I'm moving east because I feel like I'm in a bit of a rut. I'm like, I need to change shit up.
25:45 Speaker 01 Life comes at you fast. It's just really handy that I'm gonna move to Clapham in the next couple of years and you're gonna move somewhere else for fuck's sake.
25:51 Speaker 02 I'm like, this neighbourhood's going to the dogs.
25:57 Speaker 02 The William Matthews are moving in. I'm out.
25:59 Speaker 01 Run, everyone, run while you can.
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