MTGM EXTRA! "Cheat GPT..."

Joanne is only hours away from a flight back to the UK, but there’s still time for a midweek catch up. Has she been scammed again? Of course she has! Does this bring Vogue a special type of joy that only a friend like Joanne can? Of course it does! Plus, more cheating (or thoughts of cheating) and this time there’s a very modern twist… My Therapist Ghosted Me is a Global Production. Tickets for Joanne's tour Pinotphile are now LIVE: www.joannemcnally.com http://www.joannemcnally.com/ If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] mailto:[email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com http://www.mytherapistghostedme.com/ This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

• 0:02Speaker 00

  This is a global production.

• 0:04Speaker 01

  I got scammed again. I know.

• 0:07Speaker 02

  Only you.

• 0:08Speaker 01

  I did think it was great value. They only charged me eight dollars because the other websites it was fifty.

• 0:18Speaker 02

  Um, I will disappear briefly because I'm busting for a piss because I went to the pub at lunchtime. Okay then, start chatting.

• 0:24Speaker 01

  Are we leaving that bit in, Joe?

• 0:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think we should.

• 0:28Speaker 02

  No, that is unacceptable. Start talking.

• 0:32Speaker 01

  Joe's just told us something bold.

• 0:34Speaker 02

  Joe is doing bold things. Joe always does bold things. I know about them. I feel like I, I'd be a good investigator because I always know when someone's up to something, you know?

• 0:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 0:47Speaker 02

  I could see, I could sense it off him.

• 0:48Speaker 01

  A little ball streak in him.

• 0:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, when he came on the pod, it was like, he is up to something. And that hair is unusually high today.

• 0:56Speaker 01

  It would melt. It is.

• 0:58Speaker 02

  And it does.

• 0:59Speaker 01

  Not like, no, I don't mean, I don't mean like doing drugs. I just mean, he's, he's gone now. We could say it every once. He's selling crack to kids.

• 1:09Speaker 02

  Joe is not on the pod right now because he went and did loads of drugs at lunchtime.

• 1:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's selling crack to children. That's what he's doing.

• 1:19Speaker 02

  That's what I heard. I'm not allegedly. Chuck in and allegedly.

• 1:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:23Speaker 02

  Now you can leave it in, Joe.

• 1:24Speaker 01

  I tried to buy drugs off him. I tried to buy drugs off him. He said, I only sell to kids.

• 1:30Speaker 02

  He actually, I have tried to buy them off him before, but I had just, I had only met him after he'd done the school run and he'd run out completely.

• 1:38Speaker 01

  Right, of course.

• 1:39Speaker 02

  And then I met him and he was out.

• 1:42Speaker 01

  And he was drink driving. Yeah.

• 1:44Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. And he paid off the cops though. The cops.

• 1:49Speaker 01

  The cops?

• 1:51Speaker 02

  Hey.

• 1:51Speaker 01

  Excuse me.

• 1:52Speaker 02

  Are the cops coming after you?

• 1:53Speaker 01

  I can, I still speak your language. Well, you don't need to learn any language just because I'm in America. I, I.

• 1:58Speaker 02

  Is your trash can full?

• 1:59Speaker 01

  I still speak.

• 2:03Speaker 02

  Well, what is that word that you say in America?

• 2:05Speaker 01

  It's diaper changed.

• 2:08Speaker 02

  You know, you say almonds. Is that not an American way of saying it?

• 2:13Speaker 01

  No, they say, they say herbs.

• 2:15Speaker 02

  Herbs.

• 2:15Speaker 01

  They're not arsed with the H. They say herbs. And I, I've started saying chips now instead of crisps. I'm bilingual. I'm on the Duolingo.

• 2:25Speaker 01

  They're very appreciative of us.

• 2:26Speaker 02

  She's turned very American.

• 2:28Speaker 01

  I'm very American. Um, I was, I was doing, so obviously I'm in America unless, I'm, I'm sure that was clear. Um, but there was a man, so I was, I'm in Sacramento. And can I just say, I was, Sacramento had a bit of a Winnipeg vibe. And if anyone is a long-term listener, they'll know Winnipeg was very slow to sell. And then they ended up having to paper it, which means they give free tickets to people. And then they came in, they didn't know who I was. They didn't give a shit. And it was, it was, it wasn't a great experience. I was, whatever. It happens. It's the business. So I, I was like, oh, Sacramento.

• 3:00Speaker 02

  I love knowing little insider bits like this because you'd never know that. Like, you're not supposed, I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to tell people that. You're meant to just be like, oh, look, I sold out.

• 3:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know. I, I, I like the transparency of it all. And, uh, so anyway, Sacramento, the sales weren't great. Like, I mean, it's like, I'm not being bad, but like, of course they're not great. Like.

• 3:22Speaker 02

  Sacramento, is that over from, over the bridge from California, from San Francisco?

• 3:27Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 3:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, okay. That's a bit random. That's a bit.

• 3:30Speaker 01

  So I'm like on the west coast. It is a bit random. And like the club that I was in, it's the Punchline. Like I was getting a taxi to it last night and it's literally in the middle of the hour. It's beside basically the Californian equivalent of Mattress Mick. It's like an industrial apartment beside a mattress shop, right? So I went in.

• 3:48Speaker 02

  He's written a book. Do you know that?

• 3:49Speaker 01

  No.

• 3:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've seen that.

• 3:52Speaker 01

  No.

• 3:53Speaker 02

  I think he gave it to Amber. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure he's written a book.

• 3:56Speaker 01

  Did you give him a quote?

• 3:59Speaker 01

  Did you give him a quote?

• 4:00Speaker 02

  The best mattresses in town. Here's the drug lord. He's back.

• 4:06Speaker 02

  You can't cut it out, Joe. It was too long.

• 4:07Speaker 01

  Joe, you can't cut anything.

• 4:10Speaker 02

  And we said allegedly.

• 4:11Speaker 01

  You can't cut anything what we said about you.

• 4:14Speaker 02

  I got my pass. I got locked out of the studio, so I had to go and find my pass from security.

• 4:19Speaker 01

  Well, we said you were off selling drugs to kids and you have to leave it in.

• 4:22Speaker 02

  You've got to leave it in. We said allegedly.

• 4:24Speaker 03

  That's good.

• 4:25Speaker 02

  So sorry, go on, Sacramento.

• 4:27Speaker 01

  Sorry, Sacramento. Right. So anyway, I go out and I was like, this is, this is, this could be a shit show. It was one of my favorite shows I've ever done in my life. They were so nice. There was about a hundred, there was about a hundred people. Now, I was like, even a hundred at this stage, like, it's an honor and a privilege in Sacramento. Do you know what I mean?

• 4:47Speaker 02

  Was that not even through flyer ring? That was like general genuine tickets?

• 4:52Speaker 01

  Actual purchases. They actually said, yeah, they said we didn't even need to flyer it. I was like, because I was like a hundred. I was like, oh God. And they're like, that's actually quite good for a Sunday in Sacramento.

• 4:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:00Speaker 01

  We're basically in the middle of the hour. And so the hundred people, it was joyful, right? They were like, it was just lovely. Anyway, I was chatting to them after. I went out after. And, uh, just was like chatting to them and stuff. And one guy came up and he's like, um, I love your podcast. He's like, I learn absolutely nothing.

• 5:20Speaker 02

  Excuse me?

• 5:21Speaker 01

  Yeah. I said, that's kind of our angle. Like we keep it light. He said, I know nothing at the end. I know less, know nothing about anything. I learn nothing.

• 5:31Speaker 02

  I would just like to say, at one point I tried to bring in scientific facts and stuff like that. Neither of you were interested. None of you wanted to expand your brains.

• 5:39Speaker 01

  It's Joe won't let us. I could do 20 minutes on Trump's tariffs and he'd just fucking cut it off. That's why I'm like, you can't cut the drugs chat, Joe.

• 5:46Speaker 03

  Because the FBI will break your door down. You're still there. You can't say that there.

• 5:53Speaker 01

  I love it here.

• 5:54Speaker 02

  I do, I do like it there. I like that they have so much, there's so much stuff. Everything is just like, you've got too much shit. It would really like work for me over there. Like I know that, I know the DHL man's name here. He's never not at my house and the FedEx guy.

• 6:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 6:09Speaker 02

  He's like, how are you today? Now, in fairness, I'm basing that off a few TikTok people that I've seen. You know, you're one in particular who has like 7,000 things for her daughter's lunchbox. And then she replenishes her daughter's, like, her daughter's like table of makeup of just full of shit that you're like, Jesus Christ, the world is burning because of you. So, yeah, I would like it there because of that.

• 6:30Speaker 01

  I was, so I'm staying in like average, like normal hotels. Cause obviously the way the tour works, it's like, I'm not doing big rooms over here. So, um, you kind of, you adjust your wallet accordingly. So I'm staying in like, you know, there's nothing, nothing plus happening over here. However, they're not like motels. They're like, they're normal hotels. And, um, I ran, ran down the other day in San Francisco and I was like, can I get some like cutlery in a place? Cause I've ordered takeout.

• 7:02Speaker 01

  It's American.

• 7:03Speaker 02

  It's sorry, takeaway for our UK and Irish listeners.

• 7:06Speaker 01

  Takeaway, takeaway. Just, yeah. You might talk to put subtitles on me, Joe, because I'm in America now and I'm very.

• 7:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, absolutely. No, sidewalk, sidewalk.

• 7:13Speaker 01

  I'm speaking the lingo, you know? Tomato. Anyway, it's tomato.

• 7:18Speaker 02

  Sorry, that's tomato. Yeah.

• 7:19Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, gotcha.

• 7:21Speaker 01

  Tomato. Um, so anyway, they sent up a cardboard, like a paper plate, like for a child's party and some plastic cutlery. So obviously I'm a grown woman. So I ran down. I was like, hello, can I get the adult bits please? Um, and they're like, that's all we have. And I was like, what? So I put it on Insta and I was like, this is so grim. I'm eating off a cardboard plate in a hotel room. It's, it's kind of depressing.

• 7:43Speaker 02

  I hate those wooden cutlery as well.

• 7:45Speaker 01

  Oh, not even wooden, proper plastic. Now meanwhile, obviously I'm washing out my yogurt cartons to get these bin men who are gaslighting me to take my recycling. And over here, they're literally setting fire to straws morning, noon and night. So I, I, I put it up on Insta and I was like, about the cardboard plate. And the amount of DMs I got from people saying, oh yeah, like I've gone to weddings where they buy really expensive champagne and put them in plastic glasses. They're like, the Americans love a bit of plastic paper situation, which I was quite shocked at.

• 8:16Speaker 02

  Well, do you know what I was having to think? And this sounds, this is going to sound terrible as well. I'm having Christmas in my house and I'm hosting it, but I'm getting somebody to help me prep the food the day before. And when I say help me, I'm not doing it. Someone else is doing it.

• 8:30Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 8:31Speaker 02

  Cause I've loads of people and they drop it up and then you cook it and then it's all in tin foil.

• 8:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, I will be sous chefing.

• 8:38Speaker 01

  They're helping you not do it, which is literally their job. Great.

• 8:42Speaker 02

  I'm sous chefing. I'm just not in the same place as them. Yeah. Well, I'm not even supervising, to be honest with you. And that's my Christmas present to everyone. I'm like, I'm like, you're welcome. This is your Christmas present. Um, so I've, they're putting it all in this tin foil that then you throw out at the end. Like, you know that you put your turkey and stuff like that. Cause I'm like, there's less washing. And then I was even like, I wonder now, would it be too far to have a paper plate? That's how lazy I am. I was going to get paper plates and then I thought, I can't do that.

• 9:11Speaker 01

  What? For Christmas lunch?

• 9:14Speaker 02

  It was a fleeting thought. It was a fleeting. I am a mother of four children. I don't have time to clean people's plates anymore.

• 9:22Speaker 01

  I knew this would start. She chose to do this and I, I knew, I knew I'm a mother of four. It was going to start. It's, it's come quicker than I thought.

• 9:29Speaker 02

  The days are long, but the year, no, the years are long, but the days are short.

• 9:36Speaker 01

  No one held you down in a pregnant age.

• 9:38Speaker 02

  Is it the other way around?

• 9:40Speaker 01

  You made these decisions yourself.

• 9:41Speaker 03

  It is the other way. The days are long, but the years are.

• 9:44Speaker 02

  Oh, sorry. The days are long, but the years are short. I saw my good friend Kim Kardashian posted that the other day.

• 9:52Speaker 02

  And I went straight to the comments and everyone's like, yeah, right. You've got 11 nannies.

• 9:57Speaker 01

  Do you know, the gossip about the whole nanny situation is like nanny is a very fancy term for childcare. And most people have childcare, don't they?

• 10:05Speaker 02

  I know, but didn't, didn't Tommy Fury go on about, um, Kim Kardashian having like, I think, I think she does have a lot of nannies, which is fine. It's her. It's whatever she wants to do. And we actually don't know what she has, but he went on about it. And then, but he has a nanny as well. And everyone's like, but you have a nanny.

• 10:23Speaker 01

  A very triggering term for people because I think people like really don't like raising their kids on their own.

• 10:32Speaker 01

  Really stressed. It seems to be really stressful. So I think they understandably resent when they look online and see someone kind of glowing with their kids in the park and they're like, fuck you. You've, you've helped, you know, that they don't have, I guess. I get it. I'd love a nanny.

• 10:50Speaker 02

  I'd love a nanny for myself personally. But people, I still get that all the time. They're like, she probably has an, a chef and a full, and a night nanny. I don't have any of those things. I'm very honest about what I do have. Jesus. And like, what would they prefer? That I leave the kids at home and they're on, then I'll get in more trouble. Which is the less, which is less hassle? Leaving them here on their own or having a nanny? I'd like to know. What will I get less shit for?

• 11:13Speaker 01

  Sometimes I get messages about you having nannies.

• 11:16Speaker 02

  I don't, nanny, nanny. And I'm like, and I work. Jesus.

• 11:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, she's got, exactly. That's what I mean. It's like, it's not like she's just putting the kid, like, you know, it's not like, I remember James Blunt telling me when we were doing trailers that he was like, I think he was five and he was dropped off a boarding scale.

• 11:32Speaker 02

  They do. They, some of them go at seven.

• 11:35Speaker 01

  Well, he went at five, which is younger than seven.

• 11:38Speaker 02

  Are you sure they can go at five?

• 11:39Speaker 03

  He went at seven. That is, that, that.

• 11:41Speaker 01

  He went at seven. Okay.

• 11:44Speaker 02

  It's so young. Like, imagine I shipped tea off.

• 11:47Speaker 01

  Seven years of age. Now, his parents were in the military, so they travelled around a lot. He went at seven years of age. And he said that, like, he's a really interesting guy. He's, I was gonna say, actually, I don't, I don't have to say actually, like, he's a really interesting guy.

• 12:00Speaker 02

  He's really funny as well.

• 12:02Speaker 01

  He's really funny. Yeah. And his wife is great and they have a lovely life and great kids. But he was saying, he went up to the teacher and he was like, when are, when are my parents? They didn't explain to him what was happening. And he's like, when are my parents coming back for me? And she said Christmas.

• 12:16Speaker 02

  Oh my God, he didn't even go home at weekends. Now, would you mind asking him, would you mind asking him the name of that boarding school? I just was wondering about. He's eight now, so.

• 12:30Speaker 01

  Joe, you can go and sell your drugs there.

• 12:39Speaker 01

  I tried to go to Alcatraz the other day. I want, I really wanted to go to Alcatraz. I was, I was doing a nice little walk in San Francisco and I saw at some, like, kind of building on an island. And I was like, is that a fucking, is that Alcatraz? Chat GPT. It was. I fucking booked a ticket to go and see Alcatraz, but it was a, it was a fake website.

• 12:57Speaker 02

  Ah, only you.

• 13:01Speaker 03

  Alcatraz scammed. Oh my God.

• 13:04Speaker 01

  I know.

• 13:04Speaker 02

  Did you see the walruses?

• 13:06Speaker 01

  I did think it was great value. They only charged me, they only charged me eight dollars. And I was like, that's great value. Cause the other websites, it was 50. And then I, I got up in the morning and I put my, put my shoes on. I was ready to go to Alcatraz. And then I, and then I looked at my emails and I was like, oh, this doesn't make any sense. And, and then I tried to rebook myself in and the slots were, slots were full. Yeah.

• 13:28Speaker 02

  Well, I have been to Alcatraz.

• 13:30Speaker 01

  I was trying to have interesting stuff to tell you about.

• 13:32Speaker 02

  I went because I lived in San Francisco. Now, I only lived there for about six weeks. Remember, I worked in the Knob Hill Cafe, I told you.

• 13:38Speaker 01

  What was your crime?

• 13:41Speaker 02

  It's real depressing, but I heard that they were thinking of opening up again.

• 13:45Speaker 01

  Tax evasion.

• 13:46Speaker 02

  Excuse me. If anyone's into tax evasion, it'd be you writing everything off.

• 13:50Speaker 01

  Don't you dare.

• 13:53Speaker 02

  Hi girlos. I adore you both and I've listened for years to the chat about shite men's behaviour and blissful ignorance. More fill me because today's the day I have a reason to write in. This little tale covers the dangers of men and chat GPT, especially when combined. So strap in. For context, I'm 30 and I've been with my husband for 10 years, married for five. I'm an anxious girdy and have abandonment issues for a whole host of reasons. That could be another email. Oh, I feel like we all have a touch of that. And over the years, I've had concerns about my husband's behaviour, especially his relationship with colleagues, but I've always thought it's just my anxiety. Ooh, a 10 year marriage.

• 14:33Speaker 02

  He has a high pressure job in a female dominated industry and he very quickly gets close to people. Throughout the years, he's reassured me that nothing's going on. Meanwhile, he's preached about how much he hates cheating. In the last month or so, I made a comment about him always being glued to his phone. Goes everywhere with him, which made me feel uncomfortable. I also noticed he'd added face ID to his WhatsApp. Oh, gobshite. Sus. One evening, he made a show of saying he was leaving his phone in the room with me while he went to the toilet. Now ladies, I didn't wanna look. I wanted to be better than that, but I'm not. I, I'm a suspicious snoop, so it only took about 30

• 15:12Speaker 02

  seconds for me to cave and get stuck in. I didn't go to WhatsApp, Instagrams. Oh my God, sorry. Hang on. I didn't go to WhatsApp, Instagram texts or any of the usual places. I went to chat GPT.

• 15:27Speaker 02

  That's interesting. I still don't know why. I can't make sense of why, other than the universe and feminine intuition led the way. His most recently chat started, please delete this once we're finished discussing. My blood ran cold. I read about how in 2022, a year after we married, he started getting close to a woman in work. They would talk about a future together and he'd have sexual fantasies about her. They had a conversation about how if they were single, they'd be together. He wrote about how she made him feel and the connection they had. She came to our house. He found any excuse for long drives and lunches with her. Apparently she had sex with her partner every morning and he'd think about that a lot.

• 16:09Speaker 02

  She eventually left work after a year and they didn't stay in contact. He then saw her recently and the sexual fantasies and imagining a life together had started back up again. He doesn't mention me or our marriage once in this chat, only that they both had partners, but sensed they wouldn't be together if they didn't. They would be together if they didn't. As you both discussed your chats about AI, chat GPT completely validated this behaviour as being A, okay. It basically said it's totally normal and understandable and to just crack on and not feel bad about himself as he's not cheating.

• 16:43Speaker 02

  When he came downstairs, I immediately confronted him. I'd read out what he'd written, including fantasizing about life and sex with this woman. He denied it all and said he couldn't control his dreams and much later admitted that these dreams happen when he's awake. And that talking about a life together was a joke, like when he joked with a male colleague about going to America. Oh my God. Now I'm finding out that my husband is a compulsive liar and doesn't recognise an emotional affair as cheating as they had opportunities to have sex, but did. He said he felt proud of himself.

• 17:13Speaker 01

  He does recognise it.

• 17:14Speaker 02

  Look at this. He felt proud of himself for not having sex with her. I'm left with more questions than answers. Are emotional affairs as bad as physical ones? My thoughts are yes.

• 17:24Speaker 01

  You're not Obama.

• 17:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, fuck off. He's going straight back to imagining your life and sex with someone normal after three years of no contact. My thoughts are no. And why did I marry someone so stupid that they think writing to AI? Please delete this when we're done. We'll erase the chat and doesn't have the sense to check after. So here's a public service and I answered. If you're using chat GPT to validate your bad behaviour, make sure you have the due diligence to delete the chat after. And if you're on the snoop, don't forget AI is the new, oh, that's interesting.

• 17:57Speaker 02

  If, oh, if you have any tips for overcoming heartbreak, becoming a 30 year old divorcee and starting over or embracing my villain era, please let me know. All the best, girls. Stay safe out there. Oh no. First of all.

• 18:10Speaker 01

  Like, I don't know. I, I, I wouldn't survive that.

• 18:13Speaker 02

  You will survive it.

• 18:15Speaker 01

  I'd, I'd live.

• 18:15Speaker 02

  I know she's left.

• 18:16Speaker 01

  Oh yeah. Brilliant. Yeah. I, I don't mean survive in life. I mean, I wouldn't. The relationship, I would be gone. It's just so insulting. It's just so insulting.

• 18:26Speaker 02

  It's, it's the same thing as cheating.

• 18:28Speaker 01

  You're hooked on the fantasy of something that hasn't happened. It, yeah, you're hooked on the, it's actually worth, just write her.

• 18:34Speaker 03

  Sorry, I'm not sure. I don't think she has left. I think.

• 18:37Speaker 02

  She said divorcee.

• 18:38Speaker 03

  In what to do. I don't think.

• 18:39Speaker 02

  No, she said divorcee.

• 18:41Speaker 03

  Yeah. If you have any tips for becoming a 30 year old divorcee.

• 18:46Speaker 02

  Well, it's not, it doesn't, it's very long to get divorced, by the way. You don't just say you're divorced and you're divorced. It takes a while. And if anyone can give you a tip on being a 30 year old divorcee, it is this 30 year old divorcee. Well, I'm not 30 anymore, but I was a 30 year old divorcee. And I'll tell you something. I was so embarrassed when the whole thing had happened.

• 19:11Speaker 02

  And, uh, and I just was like, this is the worst. And then I was like, I decided I had, I had made myself come to terms with the fact that I was never gonna have kids and that I was never gonna be married again. And I was just gonna have to like live a life of being single. And I was like, I'm gonna enjoy being single for once in my life. And I did enjoy being single and for, it took about three months because I was so used to being in relationships and then I enjoyed being single. And then I met somebody and now I'm sitting on this podcast breastfeeding my fourth child. So this could be you at 40.

• 19:44Speaker 01

  The emotional affair thing, like, it, it's a real pointed difference, I think, between men and women because men are like congratulating themselves for not crossing a line. But actually for women, I remember there was some study done before and they were saying men are more hurt when women have sex with other men. Women are more hurt when men hold hands with other women. So there's like an emotional betrayal for us that feels worse than the actual physical side of it. So that's why emotional affairs are actually, I, for me, I can only speak for myself because I've been on the receiving end of both emotional affairs and physical affairs.

• 20:18Speaker 01

  And the emotional thing pissed me off more because I was like, just ride her and then realise there's nothing in it. Or like, you're, you're building, you're having like, it's more insulting because it's like the fantasy of the unknown. It's like, I guarantee if you, if you hooked up with her and you've moved in together, you'd be doing the same thing to her that you're doing to me because you're obsessed with what's new, what's fresh.

• 20:38Speaker 02

  The chase.

• 20:39Speaker 01

  Aesthetic.

• 20:40Speaker 02

  I would say.

• 20:41Speaker 01

  Exactly, sorry, it's the chase, just the chase, just the chase.

• 20:44Speaker 02

  I think I'd be equally hurt by both, but I think that like, the additional thing about the emotional affair for me would be like, you think I'm stupid as well. Like, you think that I'm so stupid that I'm going to fall for this bullshit if you say that there's nothing wrong with it. Fair play to you for leaving him. It's not easy, but you're gonna be grant, you'll be grant.

• 21:04Speaker 03

  Which we're not sure that you have, if, if you have.

• 21:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, we don't know if you have, but, I mean, how do you come back from that? I just wouldn't trust, I just, I'm just like, nah, I'm, you're more than that. Fuck that. Out. Yeah.

• 21:17Speaker 02

  Good luck.

• 21:18Speaker 01

  And I guarantee, if he, if he did, like, make a go of it with this woman, it would run out of steam in a month. Guaranteed.

• 21:28Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 21:29Speaker 01

  It's all about, it's just the fantasy of it all. Yeah. Getting into the nitty gritty of it. Suddenly you're taking the bins out together, you're paying a mortgage together, all that shit then. The fantasy of it all comes away and it's just a reality of two people trying to live a life together and they'd be done in a month. Guaranteed.

• 21:48Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 21:49Speaker 02

  Lovely. Thanks, everybody.

• 21:51Speaker 01

  I'm on, I'm on the way back to London.

• 21:53Speaker 02

  Yay! I want you back. I, I decided to say, I was like, oh no, I miss her. When's she back?

• 21:59Speaker 01

  Oh, fuck, you never say anything nice.

• 22:01Speaker 02

  I know. Well, I'm not, I, I don't like getting all like, deep and stuff unless I've had a drink, but I do, I really miss you. I can't wait for you to come back.

• 22:10Speaker 01

  No, Sandra has, Sandra has made you very, um, absent emotionally, but I know that and I'm aware of it.

• 22:17Speaker 02

  No hugs at home.

• 22:20Speaker 01

  No, no, I think she begrudgingly told you she loved you when you were, when you turned forty, that's what I heard.

• 22:25Speaker 02

  She does this, love you, love you.

• 22:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, but in the same town as, go fuck yourself. That's an Irish, that's an Irish mother.

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