Leo, Bodysuits & Running Times

Where does Chat GPT get off? Yet again, it's taking shots at the expense of this podcast and it's not on. Joanne, still in Cape Town, has a great idea for Valentines Day and Vogue stacked it on a run in the park. Plus, an embarrassing encounter, J-Lo & Kevin Costner and the wonderful Gearóid Farrelly on Dancing with the Stars! If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com For more information about Joanne's gigs, visit: www.joannemcnally.com This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

• 0:02Speaker 00

  This is a Global Player original podcast.

• 0:15Speaker 01

  Hello and welcome to this week's episode of My Therapist Coated Me with myself, Joanne McNally, and my work wife, Bug Williams.

• 0:30Speaker 02

  They're nice hoops. Where are they from?

• 0:33Speaker 01

  You can never have enough hoops.

• 0:34Speaker 02

  Ever.

• 0:34Speaker 01

  You can never have enough hoops. I've lost, I've lost a couple of bits. I need to kind of replace them when I get back. But yeah, I just feel like the hoops, they just kind of set the mood. They set the scene. They're a vibe. I'm never without a hoop.

• 0:45Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I always, it's like, you're like a Christmas tree. You need to add as much as you can and it really brightens up the face. I went through a phase of wearing a headscarf as a, as a like little bow on my head, like a headband. And I looked so ridiculous. She's lost a hoop. Oh, I thought you lost a hoop. You lost a headphone.

• 1:06Speaker 01

  I went through a phase of wearing a headband with a bow on it, which I think, I don't know, was it an intentional decision to infantilise myself? But I realised then, as I was staring down the barrel of 40, I was like, bows have to go. It's like a grown woman with pigtails. You look like you're having a breakdown. There comes a point where grown women can't have pigtails and you can't be wearing bows. Sorry. Except for, not Kate Winslet, the other one. Kate, what's her name?

• 1:29Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:30Speaker 01

  Kate Backensale. I like her, her bows, her bows suit her now, I have to say. She's, but she kind of wears bows in a techno, she's kind of a techno chick with a, she wears really solid punk boots, techno boots, and then kind of feminises it at the top of her head with a bow, which I quite like.

• 1:45Speaker 02

  A pigtail, I do, I don't mind a bun. I always think a pigtail bun's on somebody looks quite nice. But I did see a man with pigtails before and there's, I don't mind if you want to wear pigtails or not, but I just think above the age of 30, man or woman, no.

• 1:58Speaker 01

  Like, if you turned up here with pigtails now, it'd have you sanctioned.

• 2:02Speaker 01

  I'd be like, she's not well. It's not a fair observation. I'd be like, Vogue's not well. She's wearing pigtails. She's a well woman in pigtails. She's not well.

• 2:10Speaker 02

  If you turned up in pigtails, I wouldn't say a word. As soon as you left, I'd ring Sven and I'd be like, Sven, there's something, we're gonna have to say something about you, man.

• 2:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. You'd ring Pat. You'd be like, there's, Juman, it's a wellness chat. She's just turned up. Been in pigtails, had any sense of irony about us. We're worried about her. We're concerned.

• 2:26Speaker 02

  She acted completely normal and serious.

• 2:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, she just, and she didn't even mention them, which is the most frightening part of the whole thing.

• 2:34Speaker 02

  Ask me about my week. Come on, I did something.

• 2:36Speaker 01

  I would, Vogue, what? I'm still in South Africa, in case, in case you guys hadn't noticed.

• 2:43Speaker 02

  We're waiting for the text to say you're not coming back on the 31st.

• 2:48Speaker 01

  Vogue, do you know I'm not in studio? Have you noticed?

• 2:50Speaker 02

  I actually was. I thought I spotted you coming in in pigtails, doing a little skip along the corridor. I'm sure that was you.

• 2:59Speaker 01

  I'm still in Cape Town, and I'm letting you know now, I'm extending my trip again.

• 3:05Speaker 02

  No, you're not. No, you're not. Are you?

• 3:08Speaker 01

  I am.

• 3:08Speaker 02

  I'm thrilled for you.

• 3:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'll be back in March.

• 3:10Speaker 02

  I don't think February is a good month. It's not. I don't know if she's serious about it.

• 3:16Speaker 01

  I'm coming back in March.

• 3:20Speaker 01

  No, I fucking wish. No, I'm not. I'm coming home. I'm coming home in two days' time. I'm absolutely devastated. I am devastated. I don't know, like, I can't cope with the reality of it all.

• 3:30Speaker 02

  I'll tell you what to do, and it's what I do before every holiday. Doesn't matter how far in advance it is, you need to book another holiday. We're meant to be going away with our friends, our friends that we've known for a long time. In June, I've booked my hotel. I've sent you on the hotel. You need to book that. It's only two nights, and then you'll have something to look forward to.

• 3:47Speaker 01

  Do you know what? I agree with you. You need something else to look forward to. Sadly, I, because I have basically delayed all sense of reality for touching on six weeks now, when I get home, I literally have to write, you have to go from Heathrow to a comedy club and start writing a fucking stand-up show. On the way, Debbie Thomas on the way to fix the pigmentation. That, I'm literally landing Heathrow, Debbie Thomas for pigmentation, straight into Top Secret Comedy Club. There's, there's no break for me now. I fucked it. I fucked it. I've over, what would you say it? What would you say? Like, I've kind of over bulked my year now?

• 4:24Speaker 02

  I, no, I don't think-

• 4:25Speaker 01

  You can't not work for six weeks. Can't do it.

• 4:27Speaker 02

  Joanne, nothing really happens in January. I'm sorry. Everyone's just getting back on the bandwagon. Don't worry. I won't have you feeling bad.

• 4:35Speaker 01

  It does when your tour starts in March.

• 4:38Speaker 02

  Well, that's not great.

• 4:39Speaker 01

  That's when January becomes quite an essential work month, actually.

• 4:43Speaker 02

  Where are you starting the tour? Where does it start? In the UK or Ireland?

• 4:47Speaker 01

  Cape Town, hopefully.

• 4:52Speaker 02

  Did you find that manager you wanted?

• 4:53Speaker 01

  What about a work of weakened progresses in Cape Town? He's like, Joanne, get your lazy piss head ass home. Get into those fucking clubs. I was like, I'm sorry. I'm just having such a lovely time.

• 5:07Speaker 02

  Well, that's enough lovely time for you. You're home in two days. Get your shit together. I'm gonna, I'm gonna come and sneak, we'll sneak to some of those clubs and watch her and make sure she's doing her bits and bobs.

• 5:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, you just whip me from the wings.

• 5:18Speaker 02

  I'd be too scared to sneak in on her. She'd give out stink.

• 5:23Speaker 01

  I would, yeah. I'm very strict. I'm very relaxed until someone fucks up the system and then I don't like it at all. Then I don't like it at all.

• 5:31Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 5:32Speaker 01

  When your friends are like, oh, we'll sit front row. No, you won't. No, you won't.

• 5:36Speaker 02

  No, I wouldn't even want to do that because I'd actually feel uncomfortable making eye contact with you as well. I just wouldn't like that.

• 5:44Speaker 01

  No, we don't like eye contact at the best of times, let alone when you're sitting in front of me and I'm performing like a seal. It's not good for us.

• 5:50Speaker 02

  No, Spenny keeps asking to read my book because I'm doing the edits on it now and I'm like, you can't have the book until the book is complete. And then he can have the book and even when you see, well, I know I've not written anything bad. Do you know what I mean? I'm not-

• 6:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:03Speaker 02

  Whatever's in there is truthful.

• 6:07Speaker 01

  Are you gonna go full Vanessa Phelps and like, take everyone down?

• 6:11Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm not.

• 6:12Speaker 01

  Sorry, just to say Vanessa, that's not shade. You know, I'm absolutely obsessed with your book. But are you taking people down? Should I be worried? Is I guess my question.

• 6:18Speaker 02

  You don't.

• 6:19Speaker 01

  Is there anything you need to send me ahead of time?

• 6:21Speaker 02

  You're not getting sent the book, so don't worry. You're not getting sent the book. And everybody else who is in the book, I mean- If you did what you did, you did it. So you're in the book.

• 6:30Speaker 01

  Hold on a second. Am I not in it at all?

• 6:32Speaker 02

  Of course you're in it at all.

• 6:34Speaker 01

  Oh, thank God. You didn't ask for a photo, a headshot or anything. I was wondering, you know, that middle section with the photos. You never asked me and Joe for any photos.

• 6:41Speaker 02

  I'm not having any pictures. I was thinking that, but I'm not having any pictures. No.

• 6:46Speaker 01

  You're not putting the burger photo in?

• 6:47Speaker 02

  And I know.

• 6:48Speaker 01

  Sorry, missed opportunity.

• 6:49Speaker 02

  And I know that you've sent me a whole wee transfer of your favourite pictures, but I'm afraid they won't be going in the book. Now you're making me question it. Maybe I should. Maybe I should.

• 7:01Speaker 01

  Oh, come on. For anyone who doesn't know, because we showed them at the live, Vogue had, when she was in her modelling days.

• 7:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, modelling.

• 7:08Speaker 01

  And we kind of obviously ripped the piss out of it, like modelling in inverted commas.

• 7:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:11Speaker 01

  Irish modelling, which is more kind of sandwich words and, you know, blah, blah, blah. And like handing out magnums outside the bar. But modelling nonetheless, technically.

• 7:18Speaker 02

  Ireland.

• 7:19Speaker 01

  And she had some, she had some very funny shots from campaigns she had done. And one of them was for a chipper and her head was in a burger, kind of coming out with onions out of your.

• 7:30Speaker 02

  It was, it was a burger restaurant.

• 7:32Speaker 01

  Sorry. I'm so sorry.

• 7:35Speaker 02

  It was a sit in place.

• 7:36Speaker 01

  I forgot it was that high end.

• 7:39Speaker 02

  Those burgers were 15 euro each. Okay.

• 7:42Speaker 01

  There was three plastic seats in that restaurant, excuse you. Okay. It was fine dining.

• 7:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 7:48Speaker 01

  It was fine dining.

• 7:49Speaker 02

  They had napkins.

• 7:55Speaker 01

  The vinegar came out of a bottle, not a sachet. Okay?

• 8:00Speaker 02

  Do you know, sometimes what I'm having.

• 8:01Speaker 01

  I was surprised of it.

• 8:02Speaker 02

  Sometimes when I have people over for dinner, I'm like, will I do it? It's just the, will I give them kitchen roll or will I do the napkins? And I'm like, no, kitchen roll, kitchen roll. Less to wash.

• 8:12Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. I, I put the napkins out, then demand no one use them and then fold them and put them back in the box.

• 8:18Speaker 02

  For the aesthetics.

• 8:19Speaker 01

  Their decoration.

• 8:21Speaker 02

  Don't touch. Use that tissue I've left you.

• 8:25Speaker 01

  I actually don't enjoy napkins at all, you know, even over here, I've realised, like, because I'm always chewing gum. Like, where the fuck am I supposed to, you can't put, you can't put a bit of gum in like a linen tablecloth. Do you know what I mean? I'm all about you. I, I'm like, keep it real.

• 8:38Speaker 02

  Keep it real.

• 8:39Speaker 01

  Give me a kitchen roll.

• 8:40Speaker 02

  I swallow my chewing gum. I know everyone thinks that's really rotten, but I do. I swallowed some yesterday, just, just yesterday I did. Because I'd know where to put it and it doesn't stick in your stomach. It doesn't.

• 8:49Speaker 01

  It doesn't. You might as well, if you've nowhere to put it, put it in your stomach. Like, that's what the stomach is for.

• 8:54Speaker 02

  Did you know if you shoved your hand down your throat and into your stomach, your stomach acid would literally burn your hand away? That's how strong your stomach acid is. So of course it's getting rid of the chewing gum.

• 9:05Speaker 01

  As an ex-bolemic who's had two teeth removed, you don't need to tell me that shit. I'm fully aware. Trust me. Trust me. No one knows stomach acid like a bulimic.

• 9:17Speaker 02

  Well, did you know it was that, that dangerous if you stuck your hand in, like in your stomach pit?

• 9:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've done it. It's why my right hand's smaller than my left.

• 9:30Speaker 01

  But fuck it, I was thin, you know? There's gotta be sacrifices need to be made. Maybe you'll lose a hand. Maybe, maybe you'll lose a hand. It's like plugging it in a barrel of lava. But you know what? You'll drop three pounds and that's the main thing. You'll lose your teeth and your hair and your period, but you'll be thin.

• 9:46Speaker 02

  And you'll grow a beard.

• 9:48Speaker 01

  You'll grow a beard.

• 9:52Speaker 02

  Anyway.

• 9:53Speaker 01

  What a, it was such a grim lifestyle. Any news folk?

• 9:56Speaker 02

  Well, I went to, it was Al's birthday. He's 30 and I took him to see Peter Kay on Saturday.

• 10:04Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 10:05Speaker 02

  And it was, obviously I drank again. I mean, Dry January has become somewhat of a joke.

• 10:13Speaker 01

  Gets a shit. Is it even, that's, I can't, I can't even talk about it anymore.

• 10:16Speaker 02

  I was gonna say, I had a little, a damp January that then turned into a complete flood. And the floodgates had now opened and I just haven't stopped. I don't care. I don't care. I had a good time. Went to Peter Kay, he was so funny, but I was wearing a bodysuit, right? And you know, I don't know what it is about bodysuits, but when you put one on, you're like, oh, this is a bit sexy. Me and my sexy bodysuit. Until you go to the toilet in the bodysuit. And when I was putting the bodysuit back on in the toilet, you know, when you're like trying to clip it back together?

• 10:47Speaker 01

  Clip, clip.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  It's so unattractive. And then I was like, actually, I've been reefing this thing out of my ass all night. This is not.

• 10:54Speaker 01

  All night.

• 10:54Speaker 02

  They're not sexy and they're not attractive, actually, when you think about it.

• 10:59Speaker 01

  Well, you're long in the back and you have a wide gait. I, one of my friends, one of my friends who's, who I won't name, but my whole memory of her, she's one of my best friends. I've known her since we were six. We went to primary, secondary, everything together. Every, oh, my, my strongest memory of our childhood is her pulling her knickers out of her arse. So I guess whatever way her body is, has formed itself, she's quite gappy in that area. And I suppose the knickers were riding up and it's not a comfortable position to be in. But the problem is that those bodysuits are very attractive because they're so tight that you feel quite sexy in them. But there has to be another option.

• 11:38Speaker 02

  I mean, yeah, and then there's a question of do you wear knickers with your bodysuit? Or do you just let the bodysuit do the work of the knickers?

• 11:45Speaker 01

  What an important question. Look at us doing the work.

• 11:48Speaker 02

  I know. It's like, it's one of life's mysteries. Do you wear knickers with the bodysuit?

• 11:54Speaker 01

  It's up there with Malaysian Airlines, frankly, as mysteries go. And I had Love Pass on the Bermuda Triangle. Do you wear knickers or do you let the bodysuit do the work?

• 12:04Speaker 02

  I must admit, I wear knickers, but then I'm like, maybe I shouldn't be wearing the knickers and it wouldn't be as uncomfortable. There'd be less to remove. You know?

• 12:13Speaker 01

  Listen, I don't, I'm not going to claim to have the answers here. It's, I'm, I'm discombobulated.

• 12:19Speaker 02

  I know, I know. It was a tough question to start the day with, to be honest with you.

• 12:22Speaker 03

  Chat GPT doesn't know the answer.

• 12:24Speaker 02

  Oh, and Chat GPT doesn't know the answer. This is why I don't think anything of AI. It doesn't know everything.

• 12:29Speaker 01

  Joe, did you ask Chat GPT?

• 12:31Speaker 02

  He did, yeah. I didn't know.

• 12:32Speaker 01

  But you know that Chat GPT is against this, like, has taken a disliking to us. What does it say?

• 12:38Speaker 03

  Ultimately, it's up to your comfort and the specific bodysuit that you've chosen.

• 12:43Speaker 01

  The thing that wrecks me had the most about Chat GPT is it's so, it's, it's the diplomacy of it. It has no sass. That bothers me. That, that annoys me.

• 12:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, but it's not gonna have-

• 12:54Speaker 01

  Give us a fucking opinion. Come on.

• 13:01Speaker 00

  Observe. The North American dad. 50s. Great polo collection. He enters his vehicle information on Carvana. An offer appears in minutes. Remarkable. He squints, reads it again, smiles and says, dang, that's a good offer. The highest form of approval. No haggling, no hassle, no one called him boss. He's still on the couch. Astonishing. Sell your car today on carvana.com. Pickup fees may apply.

• 13:22Speaker 01

  A poor masculine Barry Kogan not waking up every day being like, where the fuck have we done this? Barry and Sabrina, Paul and Gracie. I said to Paul, I get him on Raya. I said it. If you wanted my help, I said I'd do it.

• 13:46Speaker 02

  I read a story about Chat GPT, about this author who basically is being accused of using AI in their novel because they left a prompt from Chat GPT-

• 13:57Speaker 01

  No.

• 13:58Speaker 02

  -in the book and no one saw it.

• 14:01Speaker 01

  Oh, God. But you know what? It's like, do you remember when we used to take photos when we were younger?

• 14:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:05Speaker 01

  A photo wasn't a photo until you printed it out and it was stuck on your wall with bluetack. And that was what, that was the experience of photos. But then the experience shifted and now the experience of photos is just scrolling through photos on your phone.

• 14:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:17Speaker 01

  So like, things change. So AI, while now people are like, oh, God, you're using AI to write books or some, to kind of propel yourself creatively, whatever. Eventually, that won't matter. It will just be part of the creative process. I'm telling you, it won't matter. It won't be like, oh, Stung, you're using AI. It'll be like, well, yeah, of course I used AI.

• 14:35Speaker 02

  I, I don't know because they were asking to make the paragraph more emotional. And I know somebody who basically had to had a really awkward text to send to somebody and they were like, hey, can you create this text for me? But I just think, I don't know, I just think it will never get the emotion and all that kind of stuff from a human. Like when I was writing stories in my book, I'm like, oh my God, can I leave that in? Like, am I gonna admit to being that much of a lunatic? But then I was like, everyone's a bit of a lunatic. And like, when you delve into your own mind and spit it out, like, that's what I think that you would miss from, from a book.

• 15:06Speaker 01

  But that's where I don't think AI, using AI to help you figure something out in a book is that bad. It doesn't matter. It's just, it's like a brainstorming session. It's not like, it's not like you're cheating.

• 15:17Speaker 02

  Okay, Joe has just asked.

• 15:19Speaker 01

  I don't care.

• 15:20Speaker 02

  Joe has just asked, where do you stand on my therapist ghosted me these days? My therapist ghosted me is a popular podcast hosted by comedians Billy Porter and Sophie Brown, where they discuss. Excuse me. Okay. You've done something, Joanne. You have fucked over it. This is, I'm blaming you for this. I am. I just feel like you've done something on one of your late night jaunts on the internet. This is your fault.

• 15:47Speaker 01

  What am I, late night jaunts? No, that is diplomacy. That is diplomacy.

• 15:54Speaker 02

  Oh, Joanne's on the internet again. Everyone joke.

• 16:00Speaker 01

  I feel like AI has been hacked by all our ex-boyfriends and they're out to get us. There's some weird karma going on. I don't know what this is. Who are those people? Joe, what is this? Can you complain? Can we?

• 16:10Speaker 03

  I have, I've just complained. I've complained to ChatGPT.

• 16:13Speaker 02

  Oh, this is simply incorrect. The hosts are Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally. And then they said, you are correct. And I apologize for that. My therapist ghosted me is indeed hosted by Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally. They discuss mental health, wellness and personal experience.

• 16:25Speaker 01

  What? Well, again, that's not, none of that is true.

• 16:29Speaker 02

  We kind of do discuss mental health. Come on.

• 16:31Speaker 03

  Talking shit.

• 16:32Speaker 01

  Well, we talk about the fact that.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  We don't have any.

• 16:34Speaker 01

  I don't have a lot of us. Yeah, exactly.

• 16:42Speaker 01

  Where is it?

• 16:42Speaker 02

  Oh my god, guess what?

• 16:43Speaker 01

  Where is this mental health?

• 16:44Speaker 02

  Guess what I'm going for today? A whole body scan.

• 16:47Speaker 01

  Oh!

• 16:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:48Speaker 01

  Smear. No, what?

• 16:51Speaker 02

  No, I stand, I'm assuming I stand in this thing and you go in and they scan your whole body and they can tell like if your muscles are deteriorating, if anything is wrong with you, I'll, I'll, I'll book you in because there's a, there's a hundred thousand people waiting list, everybody wants to do this thing. Yeah.

• 17:05Speaker 01

  What?

• 17:06Speaker 02

  Okay, Jo, sorry, I'm just gonna show off my results next week, you wait.

• 17:10Speaker 01

  A hundred thousand people?

• 17:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:12Speaker 01

  How long have you been waiting?

• 17:13Speaker 02

  I wish that I had bloody like invested in this company. I, I don't know, everyone would be so into it, but they are, and now I'm into it, unless something goes wrong.

• 17:21Speaker 01

  So what happens? You go, do you stand in like a little machine and kind of like, like kind of matrixy vibes, scans you and then?

• 17:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, you stand on the machine, it tells you what's wrong with you, but then, sorry, that's just reminded me of a story that I told Amber this week. Uh, this woman went in for a, an MRI scan and like they use like metals in that and you, you can't wear any jewellery or anything like that in it because it pulls the jewellery. This girl was wearing a butt plug that said it was fully silicone and it wasn't, there was some metal in it and it reefed it up her arse and it lodged in her chest eventually. She didn't die. You be careful, Joanne.

• 17:57Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 17:58Speaker 02

  Be careful.

• 17:59Speaker 01

  Sorry now. Like, sorry, my only question here is, why are you wearing a butt plug to an MRI? Did she forget it was there? Is it like when you forget there's a tampon? Did she, did she just forget? Or was it like a kinky thing? She was, why would you be wearing a butt plug to an MRI now? Come on.

• 18:17Speaker 02

  In fairness, we can't really have that much of an opinion because we're not butt plug wearers, so we don't know when it's appropriate to wear them and whether or not you wear them every day.

• 18:26Speaker 01

  Sorry, I didn't realise they were like an ankle bracelet. I didn't realise you wore them for the duration of the day. I thought they were just like kind of an in the moment experience. Are we just wearing butt, is it like a toe ring? Are we just wearing butt plugs? Jo, are you, is that?

• 18:39Speaker 02

  He's got one in my name.

• 18:40Speaker 01

  Ask AI, Jo.

• 18:41Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 18:42Speaker 01

  Will you ask AI about who's wearing, like?

• 18:44Speaker 02

  Joanne, how many of those little vibrators do you lose? I'd say there's a couple up there now. You're always losing them.

• 18:51Speaker 01

  Not, not in me, Val. I leave them in hotel rooms, Airbnbs and drawers. Like a normal person.

• 19:00Speaker 02

  Okay, well, I'm sure one might have found its way up there and missing.

• 19:04Speaker 01

  Not. Who wears a butt plug to an MRI? I I've really missed the stuff butt plugs.

• 19:10Speaker 03

  It's literally copied and pasted its answer from the bodysuit question. It depends on the user's comfort and experience.

• 19:18Speaker 01

  Again, it's just, it's too diplomatic. I'm over AI.

• 19:21Speaker 02

  This AI, this AI will never take off, okay?

• 19:24Speaker 01

  Pick a side. Pick a fucking side. Like, have an opinion. You know, AI, apparently, it's like the thirsty, we think we're thirsty, AI is like super thirsty. So the water and power it takes to generate all this stupid shit is crazy. So people are like, yeah, and apparently water is going to be the next big epidemic. We're going to run out of water, basically, on Earth as human beings. And that was a fear, that was a concern anyway, and now we're using AI because it's power generated. So like, it's like sending an email, you have to, it uses water.

• 20:00Speaker 02

  You're gonna scare me.

• 20:01Speaker 01

  To generate these answers.

• 20:01Speaker 02

  Storing water downstairs now.

• 20:04Speaker 01

  Yes. Yeah. So people are like, oh, look at me like a cat. But you're actually like, using 60 bottles of Bali gown to fucking show your mates what you look like as a cat or whatever. Like, people need to AI responsibly. It's not good for the environment.

• 20:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, Joe, stop asking stupid questions.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  He's just wasted the swimming pool.

• 20:23Speaker 01

  It's thirsty, Joe.

• 20:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, sorry.

• 20:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm telling you. That's a paddling pool, gone.

• 20:29Speaker 02

  And at least when I put the paddling pool out, I'm getting three days out of that, right? Okay, three days out of the paddling pool.

• 20:35Speaker 01

  We just got, we just get ignored by ChatGPT, that's all we got. We just like waste a paddling pool of water for them to go, no one gives a shit about you. It's frankly insulting.

• 20:46Speaker 02

  I saw you in the gym again.

• 20:48Speaker 01

  Tally Valk, you've been such an amazing influence in that regard.

• 20:51Speaker 02

  I'm so doing.

• 20:54Speaker 01

  It's all about balance, isn't it? But anyway, like usually I go feral on holidays and I didn't this time, so I'm delighted with myself. I've 48 hours left in Cape Town, so I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna do whatever I want now.

• 21:03Speaker 02

  Well, you've been very good. Are you gonna, are you gonna gym again?

• 21:06Speaker 01

  Hmm, maybe before the flight home, just to kind of get the blood pumping through the legs to protect the varicose cells.

• 21:12Speaker 02

  Did you see that woman on the plane? I reposted it being like, oh, people filming me on the plane again. There was a woman doing all these exercises on a plane, but she did it for like an hour and 15 minutes. A two hour flight and everyone was like, I honestly thought that was Joanne. Have you ever seen Joanne on a plane? That's not what she gets up to.

• 21:28Speaker 01

  I'm obsessed, so once something starts. Vogue, I have an idea.

• 21:34Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 21:35Speaker 01

  Valentine's Day is around the corner.

• 21:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:37Speaker 01

  And I was thinking, because obviously I am single, you are un-single, Jo, I don't know, because I don't know.

• 21:45Speaker 02

  I'll break up with him if you want me to. Everyone thinks it's happened already, so I feel like there won't be that much heat.

• 21:52Speaker 01

  Wouldn't it be nice to, wouldn't it be nice to match people up? I was out for, I was out for dinner with a friend of mine in Cape Town last night. I know him from Clapham. And I was like, you are so sound and such a lovely guy and a great catch. And I was like, I wonder, is it time to use this platform for good? As in, like, could we match people up? Could, could we do that thing that they do sometimes where, but a digital version where women bring their sound male friend to the party who they're like, we, we think that this person should be set up. And then women come in and we kind of match them in some way. Would that be something good to do? I think it might be.

• 22:28Speaker 02

  Why don't you, but like, that sounds like a cute little romance story that you could end up getting with that person.

• 22:35Speaker 01

  No, it's, we're just friends. It's very much a friendship. But I know, but I see, I see how valuable he would be as a boyfriend. But he doesn't, he's not into me and I'm not into him. But I think there's men like that that we all know. Wouldn't it be nice to kind of push them forward for Valentine's Day and try and get some dates going? Couple of ghosts.

• 22:55Speaker 02

  I think.

• 22:55Speaker 01

  Goes to babies.

• 22:56Speaker 02

  I think that would be really cute because also I think the people when they're on, because I was on my friend's Rea the other day and I was doing Rea for her because she'd gotten bored. I don't know, you have to take it like, yeah, a 15 minute break when you've done too many people. Anyway, I was going through it and it's just so cutthroat. It's like, no, no. And I, and then I started doing it and I was like, no.

• 23:15Speaker 01

  It's ridiculous.

• 23:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:17Speaker 01

  It's stupid. It's stupid. You're writing off people who in the real world you'd be mad about.

• 23:21Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 23:21Speaker 01

  You're like just writing them off. You're too much choice. This is the problem. It's too much choice. I've said it before, I'll say it again. It's like when I'm on Netflix, I'm scrolling, scrolling, scrolling.

• 23:29Speaker 02

  Too much shit on Netflix.

• 23:31Speaker 01

  I watch nothing. I watch nothing and I die alone. It's the same with relationships. I have too many options. They've too many options. They've every woman. Do you remember back in the day when people used to have affairs, they'd have to leave the house and go to a phone box? Now they're just in their fucking DMs. It's not stuff.

• 23:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, I can't ever.

• 23:45Speaker 01

  Anyway, I'm sorry, I don't want to be cynical. What I mean is. I think it'd be nice to do some sort of matchmaking event online for Ghosted for Valentine's Day. Girls, bring their male friends or female friends. Jesus, we should be LGBTQ positive. Bring anyone you want and we'll match them.

• 24:02Speaker 02

  I actually think that's a lovely idea. We should do a Valentine's event.

• 24:06Speaker 01

  Probably a bit late to get that. Oh my god, we should do a Valentine's.

• 24:08Speaker 02

  I know, it's a bit late. I mean, it's been two weeks.

• 24:11Speaker 01

  It's a bit late now, yeah.

• 24:11Speaker 02

  Well, at least the thought, the thought was there. The thought was there.

• 24:14Speaker 01

  Fuck it, let's not.

• 24:14Speaker 02

  The thought was there. Do you know what? The thought was there, but we're sorry we couldn't follow through. But the thought was, we had our, our hearts were in it. We are thinking.

• 24:22Speaker 01

  The intent was there and, and let the record show, we did, we, we suggested it, it didn't work. Maybe next year. I just think that's a nice thing to do. Email your single, email your single sound friends into, if they're, if they, with their consent, obviously.

• 24:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:36Speaker 01

  Into [email protected]. Let's get, let's fuck, let's get this going.

• 24:40Speaker 02

  And we could, yeah, we could try and set a couple of people up. We need to know where you're from. You have to know where you're from because people have to be linked together that live near each other. Jo, you're gonna have a really busy week with emails.

• 24:52Speaker 01

  Obviously, as a co-host, I do get first dibs on all the men that are offered. That's only fair. That's only fair. So any of them that I don't want, my scraps, I will put out to our listeners.

• 25:11Speaker 01

  There's a podcast called Scandal by two Australian hosts and they basically, well, exactly what it says on the tin, they kind of go through the, they summarise like scandals that have happened in pop culture and celebrity land, blah, blah, blah. And I listened to an episode they did, it was a two-part episode about the breakup of the marriage between Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt and then the marriage of Angelina and Brad and then the divorce of Angelina and Brad and the children and the whole thing. It's such a good listen. And also, I was like, do you know the way sometimes there's some shit going on in your life? You're like, oh god, this is embarrassing, it's humiliating, I need to kind of push through, I've let myself down here, blah, blah, blah. When I thought about Jennifer

• 25:56Speaker 01

  Aniston surviving that incredibly public shitshow that she went through.

• 26:05Speaker 01

  I just have so much respect. I already had so much respect for her. I have so much respect for her. She went through that man divorcing her, hooking up with Angelina. Angelina was pregnant within three days of them getting together. So obviously there was a huge hang up. Like, there was obviously crossover there. She had to go through Angelina and Brad doing a photo shoot about, because they did Mr. and Mrs. Smith about them being a couple. She had to go through all that. Then they had these gorgeous twins. She went through all of that. I just, and then remember the Team Aniston and Team Jodie t-shirts and everything? Anyway, I just, I'd recommend it. It's a great listen. It's called Scandal.

• 26:45Speaker 01

  I had an afternoon nap the other day. Do you know what woke me up? I woke me up. I was literally going, "Mmm". And I looked at my watch. Because you're middle aged now. Soon you'll have one of those masks that you have to wear so you don't die in your sleep. Sleep apnea masks. What are they, Jo? Sleep apnea masks. Soon you'll be wearing one of those like Mad Max masks while you nod off. Eventually you'll still be trying to go down on you.

• 27:14Speaker 01

  Remember before on the podcast, we spoke about our T-Shock at the time, Leo Varadkar, who is, basically T-Shock is the Irish version of the Prime Minister. Yeah, Prime Minister, Prime Minister. We're a big fan. And then they went on a kind of a rotating Susan thing and then, and we were going. A lazy Susan. You know, they rotate them like a spy track. Then we'd like loads of T-Shocks or T-Shaggy, whatever the fucking plural is. Yeah. And then Leo, we cracked Leo because we were like, "Hold on Leo. Leo doesn't follow us". But he followed some other kind of Irish people and we were like, "We need to be followed". Eventually he cracked, he followed us. Me and him had a tiny DM exchange. He was like, "Oh, I've been meaning to come in to see Pesci, blah, blah, blah". And I was like, "Come in, come in. Me and Garell to hide you in the wings", etcetera, right? Yeah. So, in my mind, me and Leo. Best friends, yeah.

• 27:58Speaker 01

  I'm in a bar recently, I'm in a bar in Dublin, couple of weeks ago. Well, let's say six weeks ago. Me and James Courtney.

• 28:07Speaker 01

  Couple of weeks ago. What does that, what's the point of six weeks? What's the point of that? Because you've been in South Africa for a month. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fine, fine. I'm in a bar a couple of weeks ago. Six, 12 weeks ago.

• 28:19Speaker 01

  I'm upstairs in one of the dressing rooms chatting away. We're having drinks. One of the lads is getting ready to go on, blah, blah, blah.

• 28:26Speaker 01

  The bar manager runs up and she says, Leo, Rocker's downstairs. And I was like, oh, my God. Oh, I must have. Hold my drink. Yeah. My best friend is downstairs. The spinning Susan T-Shock is in the building. How many drinks have you had at this stage? Guys, I said, I'm sorry. Hold that conversation, hold that thought. I gotta go down to Leo. So I bailed down to Leo, who's kind of standing beside the dance floor. That's very unlike you, by the way. How many drinks were we in here? You wouldn't do that. He's a spinning Susan T-Shock.

• 29:06Speaker 01

  Go on, go on. You went down. He technically was at one stage the most powerful man in the country. Okay. Apart from Paul Meskell. So anyway, I'm like, Leo. Oh, no. Like literally, do you know, and you're like, oh, no. Do you know, you're like.

• 29:26Speaker 01

  Leo. I mean, probably he's there because he knew I was there, you know? Probably came to see me. He just popped in to say hi, absolutely. Like, I heard you lands in there. Come on, we knock in. To say, I mean, it was. Oh, no, no. Has he unfollowed you?

• 29:47Speaker 01

  He looked like, do you know that kind of glazed over eye of someone? But they're trying to be kind of polite. Like, I've done it before, you know? Where you're like, I think I'm supposed to know. You got burned. He's like, hi. Because he's the spinning Susan T-Shock, he's like, I need to. Now, in bearing in mind, he had retired, he's prepped at this point, right? Yeah. He can tell by him, no more than the AI, he's diplomatic, so he's trying to be sound. He's like, hello. And I was like, Leo, it's, it's me. Oh. It's me. Like pointing at my own face, the full kitten caboodle. The full Scarlett experience. And he went, I'm sorry. Have we? Oh, gosh.

• 30:32Speaker 02

  No. Oh, no.

• 30:35Speaker 01

  Then I was like, then, do you know, and you're like, Leo.

• 30:37Speaker 02

  Oh, then Joanne turns.

• 30:39Speaker 01

  Stop this now. Stop this now. This isn't funny. I said, Leo, it's, it's, it's, it's, I said, my name's Joanne McNally. We're, we're, we're, um. Garbling then. You're like, we follow, follow each other.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  I do a podcast with Vogue Williams from my therapist's company, chat about it. And he goes, oh, Vogue, when I say nothing. Worse than the AI.

• 31:03Speaker 02

  No.

• 31:04Speaker 01

  Nothing. And then I'm like, um, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a comic.

• 31:10Speaker 02

  Oh, oh, no. The burn.

• 31:14Speaker 01

  Burnt.

• 31:15Speaker 02

  Ran down.

• 31:15Speaker 01

  And you know what? And I was like, you know what? Don't worry about it. And thank God, thank God. Some other lad came over and was like, oh, Joanne. And I was like, hi, I scan. He's like, what's up? We had a bit of a chat. I was like, this man's gonna have me removed. To say, I don't know if he's had a lobotomy or someone else that's running his Insta. But we do not have the relationship I thought we had. In fact, I go so far as to say, we don't have a relationship. Oh, my God, maybe he's terribly sad. Burnt by the spin and Susan T. Shock, who's since retired. Scarlett for me.

• 31:42Speaker 02

  Somebody must look after his Instagram so he actually doesn't have a fucking clue who we are.

• 31:47Speaker 01

  Well, whoever she is.

• 31:49Speaker 02

  You embarrassed yourself and not me.

• 31:51Speaker 01

  Whenever a woman or gay man is looking after his Insta, get in touch because I think we should hang out because I don't know what version I met, but that man, I was scrapping for any, any, an inch of recognition. Nothing.

• 32:04Speaker 02

  That's why I'd always like, I'm always standoffish with like a well-knownee because I'm like, I just don't want, I can't, that kind of level of embarrassment.

• 32:13Speaker 01

  We're not friends.

• 32:14Speaker 02

  Would be very painful to me. I'll tell you what, I'll ignore him when I see him as well, will I?

• 32:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. Now, he's, he's caught now. He's out. He's out. Yeah. And in fairness to him, he was trying to be sound. But it stung. The rejection stung. And I, and I, I bit, I bit all my tongues to not say, you're only a fucking spin and Susan T. Shock. Do you know what I mean? Like, don't let him hear the full whack.

• 32:37Speaker 01

  You're not full time. You're not full time. But I didn't.

• 32:41Speaker 02

  She won't have it. She won't have it.

• 32:44Speaker 01

  I didn't say it. I gave him the respect he deserved.

• 32:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm glad you haven't said it.

• 32:48Speaker 01

  But you know, if you're listening.

• 32:51Speaker 01

  He, he played me like a fiddle.

• 32:57Speaker 02

  We love chatting about little breakupy bits, but did you see that thing about J Lo and Kevin Costner? What Ben Affleck supposedly has said.

• 33:06Speaker 01

  Sorry. Okay. So J Lo is back on the market and apparently she's in some sort of romantic tryst with Kevin Costner.

• 33:13Speaker 02

  Well, Ben Affleck has supposedly come out and said, and this word is what really got me. He was disturbed by the love. So that is like trying to make someone seem like they're mad, saying, oh, I was very disturbed that they did that. There's nothing wrong with it. She was skeezing on Kevin Costner like most of us would do. Ben made the comment in March 2023 about J Lo. When they were still together, he said it on a podcast. He said he was pretty disturbed that J Lo loved Kevin Costner so much. That she would swoon over his Instagram and romantic scenes.

• 33:51Speaker 01

  What she's done there now, it's very smart because what she has done there, obviously she had a little horn for Kevin. Ben knew about it. It bothered Ben.

• 34:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:00Speaker 01

  Their marriage blew up after three minutes and she has done the very smart thing of going, who would fuck with him the most? Who, if I hooked up with, would wreck his head the most? Oh, remember he was disturbed by my fancying of Kevin Costner in there? It's going to be Kevin. Kevin has been selected. Kevin is a pawn in the game and I'm here for it.

• 34:21Speaker 02

  She was enjoying, she was enjoying drinks with Kevin in Aspen recently. So she has really.

• 34:26Speaker 01

  Of course she was.

• 34:26Speaker 02

  She has done her work.

• 34:27Speaker 01

  Of course she was because she's a smart bitch. She's a smart bitch and that will wreck his head. And sometimes that's all you have is like little bits of revenge at the end.

• 34:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a good, that's a good revenge. I did that to somebody before.

• 34:41Speaker 01

  It's really good because when someone says they're disturbed, what they actually mean is, I'm actually kind of taking this a bit seriously and I'm offended by it. You're not, you're not laughing at all. Disturbed is a very, it's a strong description.

• 34:54Speaker 02

  Disturbed is in the, in the realm of creepy, like, oh, he's a bit creepy.

• 34:58Speaker 01

  You're trying to embarrass her. Yeah, you're trying to embarrass her. And now she's taken a full circle. And now she's riding him.

• 35:04Speaker 02

  Ha, ha, ha. Directly, she's riding him, because I kind of had a vibe that Kim, because I saw the new trailer for the Kardashians. It's coming on February 6th, so no one talked to me, because I'm watching the whole thing. And Kim Kardashian says she's been dating somebody but kept it a secret. So I know that she fancies Kevin Costner too. I'd say there's people fighting over Kevin Costner. Definitely.

• 35:25Speaker 01

  I mean, really?

• 35:28Speaker 02

  I hate it.

• 35:29Speaker 01

  I got it.

• 35:29Speaker 02

  He's 70 what?

• 35:30Speaker 03

  He's 70.

• 35:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's okay. I wouldn't mind 70. I'm nearly 40.

• 35:34Speaker 01

  Jo, do you know how much Viagra that man has access to? Like, there's no ages, ages means nothing at that stage.

• 35:42Speaker 02

  I don't even think he looks like he needs Viagra, to be honest with you.

• 35:45Speaker 03

  I'm not being ageist. I'm just, I was, you know, it's just a fact.

• 35:48Speaker 02

  70 years old, born in 1955. Looking great.

• 35:53Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. A man born in the 50s, he's gonna need Viagra. Sure, come on.

• 36:00Speaker 01

  Can I talk about something, please? I would like to talk about my, one of my bestest friends, Garode Farley, is on Dancing with the Stars in Ireland.

• 36:11Speaker 02

  Yes, yes. He looks pretty good.

• 36:12Speaker 01

  And he is flying it. And I, me and Garode spoke about this, so I said to Garode, I'm so proud of you. Now, I wasn't sure how it was gonna go, so I was waiting to see how he did, but now he's doing really well. So now I'm really behind him. I'm really behind him now. I'm, I'm willing to attach my name to his campaign.

• 36:34Speaker 01

  He is. How is he? Well, see, I, I can't, sadly, because I am in South Africa, I don't know if I mentioned that, I can't watch it, because it's on the player.

• 36:41Speaker 02

  He looks good from his videos, though, I have to say. No, not good, improving, which is always good.

• 36:48Speaker 01

  He is, and he's in a same-sex dance couple, so he's dancing with another lad, and he's flying it, like he's.

• 36:54Speaker 02

  And his cat piss is in the toilet. We have to add that into every. Yeah, we have to add that into every conversation about Grode.

• 37:02Speaker 01

  And I think she flushes it, but that I could have added a bit of spice to that story, but I think she flushes the toilet with her paw, but I could have added that in. But yeah, I just want to say, I'm so proud of him. He's doing an amazing job.

• 37:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, he is actually, in fairness.

• 37:15Speaker 01

  That's it, really.

• 37:16Speaker 02

  Well done, Grode. Vote for, vote for Gearoid.

• 37:19Speaker 01

  Vote for Grode. Gearoid. He, so the last, the week just gone, it was musicals. So he was Oliver. You got to pick, pick a pocket or two.

• 37:29Speaker 02

  I have to say, I didn't recognise him from that. You reposted a video and I was like, where is he? And then I realised he was just covered in muck. So he did look very.

• 37:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, I guess orphans, orphans, it's dirty, it's dirty business picking pockets. So I guess, yeah, they were kind of.

• 37:43Speaker 02

  Well, you want to go incognito.

• 37:44Speaker 01

  As possible. I just didn't know Grode could dance. That's what's so jarring for me. I know. Like, I don't know my right or my left. I kind of thought we were the same.

• 37:53Speaker 02

  I feel like you can tell if somebody has a bit of rhythm as well by the way they like walk around and stuff and get about during the day. But like, people thought that I could dance when I can't. But like, I wouldn't have said that, like, well, if I watched him walk towards me, I wouldn't have said dancer. But then he can.

• 38:07Speaker 01

  No, me neither. Me neither. But did you see the video of Sophia Ritchie that went viral where she was kind of like vibing to the I'm So Messy song?

• 38:15Speaker 02

  Good dancing.

• 38:17Speaker 01

  She was just, no, she was just, no, the, a total, she was just vibing. And then it went viral because everyone was like, oh my God, she's, she's got, she just has a natural rhythm to her.

• 38:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:26Speaker 01

  And then recently there's been a Will Ferrell kind of took off that video that, anyway, like, one thing I'm really missing in my life is, well, mental balance and rhythm.

• 38:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:37Speaker 01

  Really missing some rhythm.

• 38:38Speaker 02

  I have rhythm, but as I said, only one, only one half of my body at a time. That's all the rhythm that I have.

• 38:43Speaker 01

  Which is not, like, that's not great.

• 38:50Speaker 01

  I just assumed we were thick as thieves and he literally couldn't give a shit if I live or die. And that was sobering, I'll be honest. But I needed to be sobered up, I'd been drinking for the day. Probably was no harm. Jo, ask AI. Actually, no, don't, it's the water issue, don't ask me.

• 39:05Speaker 01

  I was embarrassed, I've embarrassed myself.

• 39:07Speaker 02

  When?

• 39:08Speaker 01

  Again.

• 39:09Speaker 02

  With Leo?

• 39:10Speaker 01

  Sometimes, sometimes.

• 39:15Speaker 01

  I mean, like, to be on the receiving end of something that brutal. I've only really rebuilt myself.

• 39:24Speaker 02

  I realise it took you, it took you over a month to tell us as well.

• 39:28Speaker 01

  Leo, I'm not being bad, but I, you've lost my vote. And I know you're not even in the business anymore, but you've lost my vote. And I don't live in Ireland anymore, so I can't vote, but you've lost it.

• 39:38Speaker 02

  You could always fly, you could fly home to vote, you could fly home to vote, if you wanted.

• 39:42Speaker 01

  You've lost my emotional vote, Leo. Anyway. Downstairs, in the hotel lobby, ordering a bottle of Chardonnay Blanc.

• 39:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:50Speaker 01

  One of the waiters comes up, I'm in my gym gear, because you know, I dress for gym and then I see if I actually gym.

• 39:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, everyone does that, it's important to do that, that's how you might do the gym every day.

• 40:00Speaker 01

  Exactly, you dress with intention and then you go down and you maybe order a bottle of Chardonnay Blanc for lunch. And there, and that's how the day unfolds, and that's a holiday, and that's what it is. You know, there's moments of feral. He was like, oh, you're obviously a runner. He like, pointed to my gym gear etc, he goes, you're clearly a runner.

• 40:17Speaker 02

  Were you wearing the yoke?

• 40:20Speaker 01

  No, I wasn't wearing.

• 40:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, weren't wearing that. Sorry, that's how I always tell them.

• 40:24Speaker 01

  My wrap around okies and my harness, while I sat at the pool and drank all day. Yeah, actually, yeah, wine, is that a problem?

• 40:30Speaker 02

  She filled her little, I've filled her little water page with wine.

• 40:35Speaker 01

  I want to be sporty, I'm not, I don't always deliver. Imagine being the harness.

• 40:39Speaker 02

  Giving sporty vibes.

• 40:40Speaker 01

  Floating around in the pool, yeah.

• 40:44Speaker 01

  He was like, you're obviously, you run. And I was like, I was so thrilled that he would look at me as a runner, that I didn't have the heart to say, I just put on my gym gear and come down to the bar. So I was like, yeah, I do, I run, I run. Cause I do run Vogue sometimes.

• 40:58Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, I think you, I've seen you run before, I have, but I wouldn't, it's not a, it's not a consistent run, I would say. You run and stop, and then run and stop.

• 41:07Speaker 01

  You've seen me walk with speed.

• 41:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, I have seen you walk with speed. For sure. You don't walk slow. You're not a slow walker. But I would say that you take a lot of breaks whilst running.

• 41:16Speaker 01

  Olivia, my trainer's like, do, she's like, do one of your walkie runs. Would you not do one of your walkie runs? Where you run and walk? It's a, it's a hybrid. Anyway, he was like, you're clearly a runner. And I was so flattered and thrilled that I was seen, I was being seen as the version of myself that I want to be, but I'm not quite that version. But I was like, I do actually, I do run. He goes, so what are your times? And he's like, what? I was like, yeah. Now, of course, I don't have a fucking clue. I lost the Garmin 48 hours after buying it. So I don't know what they're my times. And I was like, oh, I, I, I actually don't track my times. And he's like, what? And I was like, oh God, here I am, embroiled in a lie. I was like, I just did it for my mental health. And he's like, you don't track your times? I was like, no, I don't track my times. He's like, so what, 5K, 10K, 20K, like, what are your times?

• 41:58Speaker 02

  Oh no.

• 41:59Speaker 01

  Fuck!

• 41:59Speaker 02

  I mean, that's a unusual question to ask somebody anyway. Does you give like a Kipchoge time of like 12 minutes?

• 42:07Speaker 01

  No, no, exactly. Yeah. 20K, we've read seven and a half, eight minutes.

• 42:14Speaker 02

  That wouldn't surprise me.

• 42:20Speaker 01

  It'd be three days now on the 5K. I didn't know. So cause he was trying to compare, he's a runner. So he was trying to compare his times, but it was like he was looking up to me like he thought that I was advanced or something. Anyway, it was very embarrassing. And I just had to be like, I don't track, I don't track, I don't track. And he was like, God, I've never met anyone who runs and doesn't track. And I was like, I'm sorry, I just don't track, I don't track.

• 42:40Speaker 02

  I've met loads of non trackers and sorry, I went running with Spenny the other day. Well, I actually twice. I went running with him about a week ago. And then he started being like, come on, this is ridiculous now about my time and my speed. And I was like, listen, I'm coming out here to enjoy myself. I'm not coming out here to have someone slagging me off. And so I went running with him again the other day and I warned him. I said, Spenny, I'm doing six minute kilometres and that's what you're getting out of me.

• 43:02Speaker 01

  Less of the sass.

• 43:03Speaker 02

  And I don't want anyone slagging me off. I want to go enjoy myself and do a loop of the river at any speed I so wish. Of course, he puts it in as a recovery run for himself and I'm thrilled with myself. Anyway, I'm running along the river.

• 43:16Speaker 02

  I'm running along the river and I saw a huge piece of dog shit. So I tried to sidestep the dog shit, went flat on my face. My phone flew out of my hand. I have a big, black elbow. And absolutely, he kind of kept trotting on. I was like, oh yeah, I wish I could trot on. You know when you're so embarrassed by yourself and there were these people who tried to help me up? And I was like, oh, please don't, please don't help me up. Just let me get up alone. I don't, I don't want to help. Don't help me.

• 43:45Speaker 01

  There's, there's nothing worse than making eye contact with someone as they fall over. It happened to me the other day. I wasn't the faller. I was looking at, and there was a man walking past me and he looked at me and I looked at him and there was a bit of a vibe.

• 43:58Speaker 01

  And then he fell over. Cause he lost his footing and it was, and then I looked away because I was like, I don't want to embarrass him by, you know.

• 44:05Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 44:05Speaker 01

  There's something just very undignified about falling over.

• 44:08Speaker 02

  Unless there's blood, leave them alone. Unless there's blood, yeah.

• 44:14Speaker 01

  I was, I was walking down the road with a man once, his wife fell over in front of us. We were all locked. And he's, he kept the conversation going and stood over her.

• 44:25Speaker 02

  I think that's a real.

• 44:26Speaker 01

  God's honest truth.

• 44:28Speaker 02

  I'd appreciate that from Sven.

• 44:29Speaker 01

  A year later.

• 44:30Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 44:31Speaker 01

  And then they got back together, but I was like, there's a very, there's a lack of care there. Like Jesus. She full on face planted herself and he, and he saw it happen and stepped over her body.

• 44:41Speaker 02

  I think he was just trying to save her embarrassment. Like I would prefer that. I don't want to be helped up. It's too embarrassing.

• 44:49Speaker 02

  You're already lying face down.

• 44:50Speaker 01

  I'd like some acknowledgement of the fact that my face is in gravel.

• 44:57Speaker 01

  We're enjoying our chats today, but we need, we're going to do, the bonus app has to be, I think devoted to Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni and Ryan Reynolds, pleased.

• 45:09Speaker 01

  The juice, the tea, it's running out my mouth, it's running out of my eyes.

• 45:14Speaker 02

  That thing you posted as well, like, it's, it's just, there's too much, okay. We're gonna have to do it in the bonus, but it is so good. I love it.

• 45:23Speaker 01

  Candace Owens, who's kind of, she's weirdly problematic, but her take on this seems to be honest.

• 45:29Speaker 02

  Go look at Candace Owens' place, um, uh, in, so she's got a take on the whole thing.

• 45:33Speaker 01

  She's very far right.

• 45:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, she's read the whole lawsuit. I've looked into bits and bobs, but I saw something else today. There's too much, there's too much to do. We'll do it.

• 45:42Speaker 01

  Candace is far right. I don't, I don't engage with her for that stuff, but this, her take on this thing is gas. Do you know, I was walking down the road, do you know what, I love a baseball cap, right? And I was walking down the road the other day in Cape Town, and there was a man wearing the fucking coolest baseball cap. It was like combat with fluoro orange saying something across the lid. And I was like, oh my God, I need this hat. And as I got closer, I realised it's had to make America great again. And I was like, oh.

• 46:12Speaker 01

  Not even I, for the palette. And I do love a colour palette.

• 46:15Speaker 02

  No, you just can't, you can't. Well, everyone, thank you so much for listening. That's it from myself. And Joanne, thank you. We'll see you for the bonus.

• 46:23Speaker 01

  Where we'll be deep diving. From me and my two work wives. Good night and good luck.