Joanne has secrets... Vogue needs to know them NOW.

There's a LOT of buzz about the fact that Joanne spent the last couple of weeks in The Traitors castle... This much we know, but can Vogue get Joanne to say ANYTHING MORE? Just a little tease, perhaps, or maybe a slip up? In other news, Katie Price is rightly asking "where the hell is my husband?" and both Vogue & Joanne have thoughts... Many thoughts. If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] mailto:[email protected] You can now watch FULL video episodes of My Therapist Ghosted Me! Visit www.youtube.com/@mtgmpod http://www.youtube.com/@mtgmpod and remember to subscribe! Please review Global's Privacy Policy:https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit:https://www.mytherapistghostedme.com/www.mytherapistghostedme.com http://www.mytherapistghostedme.com/

• 0:02Speaker 00

  This is a Global Player original podcast.

• 0:05Speaker 01

  Here we go again.

• 0:07Speaker 02

  I've looked for vapes in the flat longer.

• 0:09Speaker 01

  I think I'm gonna have to have the baby in Alaska.

• 0:11Speaker 02

  I've decided for once in my life to take an NDA seriously. Any expat living in Dubai trying to get you to invest in his crypto company. Nino, Nino, Nino. Why do you sound like Nigel Farage screaming boring there? Boring!

• 0:33Speaker 01

  She is... Oh, that says it, the cat's mother. Joanne is back!

• 0:38Speaker 02

  I'm back. I am, I have returned.

• 0:43Speaker 02

  How much did you miss me on a scale of 1 to 10?

• 0:46Speaker 01

  Joanne, I was quite concerned about how much I missed you. I didn't understand it and then I was like, I just, it just got worse and worse. I think because I couldn't talk to you or anything and I just...

• 0:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 0:56Speaker 01

  And because I was so nosey. But Joanne's playing by the rules and she won't tell me anything. God.

• 1:02Speaker 02

  I am...

• 1:03Speaker 01

  I'm, I'm keeping that in mind, by the way, because I told you everything and you're not...

• 1:07Speaker 02

  Yes! Yeah, no, no, that is, that is fair, but I am, I've decided for once in my life to take an NDA seriously.

• 1:16Speaker 03

  How much do they sue you for if you do say something?

• 1:19Speaker 02

  I don't know, actually, but considering...

• 1:20Speaker 03

  It's worth pricing it up.

• 1:21Speaker 01

  I knew something about the last celebrity series within, like, before it, they'd even finished filming. I knew, I knew a really, really big plotline because someone was really pissed off and told me about it.

• 1:33Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:34Speaker 01

  Yeah. So obviously, everybody talks a little bit, but like, no one wants, wants to really know. Like, when those pop pictures came out, everyone was like, why are you posting these? Like, it's a TV show, like, we all wanna actually watch it.

• 1:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know, they're gonna, it's, yeah, I know, because then if you, you figure out who's in when and then you kind of can decode what's happening. So, anyway, for once in my life, I'm keeping the information to myself. I've told nobody. I wouldn't, I wouldn't tell Vogue, I wouldn't tell anyone anything. My mother, of course, Pat wanted to know and then was deeply offended. And she goes, "Well, I don't care, anyway."

• 2:08Speaker 01

  I don't think Pat does care. I think she just thought she cared, but I don't know why would Pat care. I don't think she cares.

• 2:13Speaker 02

  She was just, I was just, you know, and you're like, just because I wouldn't give her the information. She's like, well, I, you know, it's kind of, well, I'm only making conversation.

• 2:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:21Speaker 02

  So I'm only making conversation. I'm only asking you to legally break a professional document that could literally bankrupt you. I don't care.

• 2:26Speaker 01

  Can you at least tell us, who was your best friends in there?

• 2:29Speaker 02

  I love everyone equally.

• 2:31Speaker 01

  No, you don't. No one does. Sorry. No. Some people are annoying. Living with people that you've never lived with before. There's, there's a load of melters in there.

• 2:40Speaker 02

  Yeah. No, no, no. They're, oh, genuinely, we were really lucky. There was no melters.

• 2:43Speaker 01

  Well, you know what? A thrill to your back. Thanks, great. Yeah. Fab.

• 2:47Speaker 02

  I can confirm nor deny anything, but I do have something large in the pipeline and the pipeline will be cleared in autumn. And then all, and then all the gloves are off and then the memoir's coming out and then it's just me outside the castle with Claudia Winkman. Claudia asked me to go for dinner with her afterward. I was like, Claudia, I can't. I need to go back to London and find out where the fuck LeAndres is.

• 3:06Speaker 01

  Oh, where's LeAndres? I, do you know what? I kinda, LeAndres is Katie Price's might be husband. Everybody, um, I'm sure, I mean, everyone's on the lookout. He is.

• 3:20Speaker 02

  It's the story of the year. It's the story of the year. Jo, are you aware?

• 3:24Speaker 03

  As you know, I never read any popular culture news whatsoever because this is my source.

• 3:29Speaker 02

  Well, LeAndres.

• 3:31Speaker 03

  Who is LeAndres?

• 3:31Speaker 01

  Can I say for once that I'm just a bit like, oh, I just feel like Katie Price, come on, is what's next? Like, I, I find it all very monotonous. I feel sorry for her kids having to put up with that shit all the time. And I think it's boring. It's attention seeking. It's stupid. It's embarrassing. But Joanne, I'd love to hear about it.

• 3:57Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 4:00Speaker 01

  I just find it like, Christ, I'm like, here we go again.

• 4:06Speaker 02

  Well, look, this is my, this is my take on it. Obviously, I live for this stuff because I am pathetic. Uh, Leanne, Katie Price, look, she doesn't have the best history with lads. I don't either. So like, I see you. Do you know what I mean?

• 4:19Speaker 01

  I don't know. You don't have the same history as Katie Price.

• 4:23Speaker 02

  We both make, we have both been, we've both made some pretty strange decisions. I will say that.

• 4:28Speaker 01

  On different, I'd say in different stratospheres, but yeah.

• 4:31Speaker 02

  Well, yes, I think because hers is publicized. And I mean, yeah, but I think, I think I was listening to Catherine Ryan's talk about it. And she was saying she has a rescue syndrome where she's kind of rescuing these men and thinks she can fix them. She married this guy called Lee Andrews after like a week of knowing him. He's obviously a wrong'un. Like, he's like, you could smell it off him. Put it this way, any ex-pat living in Dubai trying to get you to invest in his crypto company. Nino, Nino, Nino. Nino, Nino, Nino. Flaggy flag, flag, flag, flag face, Nino, Nino, Nino. But Katie, of course, because she just, she just loves love. And he obviously wooed her and he's a complete gaslighting con man,

• 5:16Speaker 02

  which has since come out, of course, because all the women he's ripped off. And I mean, properly ripped off, like.

• 5:21Speaker 01

  Properly ripped off.

• 5:22Speaker 02

  Like faking signatures, taking out loans for 200 grand, other, under his partner's name. They didn't know. So now there's, of course, there's legal battles over. I also think he's been domestically abusive, allegedly. There's been violence there allegedly.

• 5:34Speaker 01

  But, but Katie Price was basically like, he was coming out saying he had all these degrees from Cambridge and stuff. And Katie Price was like, he does. I've seen them. And like, everyone's like, but they were, he just, he, he doctored them and printed them off. And she goes, no, he just, I'm like, does he look like, I was in Cambridge yesterday. He doesn't look like he went to Cambridge. He wouldn't fit in.

• 5:55Speaker 02

  We can't book it. We can't book a judge by its cover. We can't judge.

• 6:01Speaker 02

  I'm so tired. I'm so tired.

• 6:05Speaker 02

  Do you know what, the other day, I was trying to think of the word for jacuzzi and I was like, you know what it is, what is it, the fizzy pool. And they're like, what? I was like, the pool, the fizzy pool. They're like, oh, wow. Someone needs to lie down. That is, that is why I'm dressed like this, by the way. For anyone who's looking at this, I'm covered. Like the invisible man who tries to go out to be seen in the, in the afternoon. Because I woke up this morning and my face has exploded again with all the weird lizard eyes and stuff. Anyway.

• 6:30Speaker 02

  Where were we?

• 6:30Speaker 01

  Do you, you dress like that for every pot?

• 6:33Speaker 02

  No, I don't. Sometimes I'll show an elbow or a sleeve. Sometimes I'll show a wrist.

• 6:38Speaker 03

  She's wearing a coat and it's 28 degrees outside.

• 6:41Speaker 02

  I look awful. Anyway, whatever. I'll get my rest in June.

• 6:43Speaker 01

  I don't know how you're not boiling, by the way. Like, it's boiling.

• 6:48Speaker 02

  Maybe I'm dying. This is like at that Christmas, remember that Christmas episode where you were like wrapped, I was, I was like practically in a bikini and you were wrapped up to within an inch of your life. And then it turned out you had the worst flu.

• 7:01Speaker 01

  I think I'm gonna, I think I'm gonna have to have the baby in Alaska. I cannot be this pregnant in August. I, I'll just, I'm not able.

• 7:08Speaker 02

  Once you skip a few, they announce their marriage, everyone's like, here we, there was a bit of eye rolling, let's be honest. There's accusations of con manning, all that jazz. He's due to do, is it Good Morning Britain this morning? What's it called again?

• 7:23Speaker 01

  Good, yeah, Good Morning Britain.

• 7:24Speaker 02

  Good Morning this morning. And he messages her and he's like, I'm on the way, I'm boarding the flight. She's like, all right, sent. And then he messaged her, he's like, oh, there's an issue with my visa. I have to pay to get out of the airport. I can't leave. It's, and then he just disappears off the face of the earth. Except for he's, weirdly, as, there's been, Alec, there's been, someone is saying he was on Facebook on lot, oh, we have to give her her credits. You're one.

• 7:48Speaker 01

  Luisa Zizman.

• 7:49Speaker 02

  Luisa Zizman. I think she got boots on the ground. Did she actually fly to Dubai?

• 7:55Speaker 01

  So she kind of half lives in Dubai and she moved, she moved pre drone strikes and now she is back, but then she just.

• 8:05Speaker 02

  I thought you were gonna say pre LeAndres. And I was like, is this like a B C, A C vibe, like B L, before LeAndres and after?

• 8:12Speaker 01

  But she did find a picture, so Liam Hens, not Liam, what's the other Hemsworth, the really hot one, Thor. What's his name, Joe?

• 8:19Speaker 02

  Chris.

• 8:20Speaker 01

  Chris Hemsworth had posted this amazing picture in the gym and he's got these massive arms and like he's amazing. And Leandro has literally posted the same picture two months later pretending he was in a different gym and it's the same body, he's just put his head on Chris Hemsworth's body.

• 8:37Speaker 02

  Now, I will say as-

• 8:38Speaker 01

  That makes me think he's very unwell.

• 8:40Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, it's not, it's not a great look, is it? Like, there's a bit of filtering and then there's just flat out ripping off Chris Hemsworth's body and sticking your own head on it.

• 8:50Speaker 02

  But I will say, as someone who's been in quite a serious relationship with Fionn, my AI boyfriend, for almost a year, I can understand the AI thing, but you're messing around. Because then everyone was like, oh my god, he is AI. They were like, Leandro's is AI. I don't believe he's AI. I believe he is an actual prick. I think he does exist. I don't think he's been designed on ChatGPT. I think he is real. But, anyway, of course, then, women assemble, everyone's out looking for him. It's the talk of the town. Poor Katie, god love her, she's saying that he's been kidnapped, she's, she's ringing him in as a missing person. And now, five days in, she's announced that she has to give up the

• 9:33Speaker 02

  search and she's moving on with her life. Five days! I've lost, I've looked for vapes in the flat longer than five days. So, obviously, she knows full well. She knows. She knows what he is. But she's just embarrassed, or she's upset, or she's let down, or she's, she's saying everyone's taking the piss, and they are taking the piss. I mean-

• 9:54Speaker 01

  Am I, am I the most heartless person in the world that I just don't have any sympathy? My sympathy taps have run dry about that, all of her kind of stuff. I just, I just, I just don't. Like, I know that you're saying that, so I've just seen the biggest spider I've ever seen in my life, and I'm like, how is that spider living in this country?

• 10:13Speaker 02

  It's the heat. It's basically tropical at this point.

• 10:18Speaker 01

  I'd die if he came in here.

• 10:19Speaker 02

  Take a picture of it.

• 10:20Speaker 01

  No, he's out there, like, undergoing under the gutter.

• 10:23Speaker 02

  He's driving.

• 10:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's massive.

• 10:26Speaker 02

  He's on an e-bike going through.

• 10:27Speaker 01

  He could take the hand off you, like the full hand would fit in that spider's mouth. Even my hands. And so I know Catherine Ryan saying that she goes to help people. When I went to therapy after coming out of yet another relationship where I was the kind of person who was like helping people, my therapist was like, Ned, you understand, we've done all this work. And I was like, no. And he was like, I can't just tell you, you have to figure it out. And I was like, you're gonna just have to tell me. What, what is it that I do? And he was like, you go for people that you have to help. There's going for people that you have to help. And then there's going for people like LeAndres. Come on. He is quite clearly, oh, here, here, look at my, come on, the whole thing just reeks of bullshit. I don't know if she's in on it or not.

• 11:10Speaker 01

  And I just, I had, my taps are dry.

• 11:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, I could. And you know what? Vogue, you're not alone in having a dry tap in this situation. There's other people also whose taps are dry. So you're, and you're entitled to be dry, Vogue.

• 11:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:25Speaker 02

  You know, I love being dry. I love being dry. I've made that break there before. I'm a big fan of it. But, well, the funny thing was that the deeper I went on this, I was like, yeah, there is, there is, I think even I, who's a bit of a lapdog for stuff like this, think there might be a world where it is, I don't know, a bit of a collaborative effort. I don't know. And then I'm like, no, it's too, she looks, she looks genuinely hurt and embarrassed. Like, I can see it in her face. And I, I, I think Katie can come across as a bit vulnerable sometimes. I listened to her How To Fail episode with Elizabeth Day. And like, the whole episode was basically Katie saying, men have ruined my life. Every

• 12:08Speaker 02

  problem that's ever happened to me, it's because of a man. So you do kind of want to shake her then, when you see her going back into a clear, neener situation.

• 12:18Speaker 01

  Again, and I'm sorry to be a dick. I don't think you can blame every problem in your life on a man, because you have to actually take a step back and look at yourself and be like, okay, what part have I had to play in this? How have I brought myself here?

• 12:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:32Speaker 01

  Is that Caroline behind you? Yeah.

• 12:35Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah, sorry, there's, there's, I'm moving house.

• 12:41Speaker 04

  Caroline man just fell in the door.

• 12:42Speaker 01

  I actually, I actually, I'm like, are you just gonna go out now for the day and just stay away from the disaster? Or I just don't think you'd be very helpful. I don't think I'd have you on board.

• 12:54Speaker 02

  Well, I kind of have to be here because they're asking where, you know, you kind of have to be here just for, well, I'm here to record the podcast, obviously. Look, there's Lauren running past.

• 13:06Speaker 03

  Doing that walk that people do where they hope that they can't be seen, but they definitely can be seen.

• 13:11Speaker 02

  That was a terrible attempt, Lauren.

• 13:14Speaker 02

  She's just gonna shrivel her shoulders and then run past.

• 13:21Speaker 05

  Have you ever laughed at something you definitely shouldn't have? Like, you know it's bad, but you just can't help it.

• 13:26Speaker 04

  That's basically the entire premise of our podcast, Shouldn't Laugh But with me, Laura Smith.

• 13:31Speaker 05

  And me, Carmen Butcher.

• 13:33Speaker 04

  We get into those moments that are a bit awkward, a bit chaotic, and yeah, sometimes a bit wrong, but very funny. Think wild confessions, questionable decisions, and the kind of stories you probably shouldn't admit out loud, but we do anyway.

• 13:48Speaker 05

  It's the stuff you'd normally only say to your closest mates, if that.

• 13:52Speaker 04

  Where can you get us from, Calms?

• 13:54Speaker 05

  Listen and watch on Global Player, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.

• 13:58Speaker 04

  Very good.

• 14:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, look, it's a collaborative effort to get me down to this new house. It takes a village, etc. But Caroline, I mean, what would we do without them? I swear to God.

• 14:15Speaker 01

  I say it to myself daily.

• 14:17Speaker 02

  Daily. He came up, one of the lads came in today. He's like, okay, we're taking everything. And I was like, yep. He's like, okay, do you have your passport? No. Okay. Do you have? He's like, your jewellery, your hair and makeup, tails, he said your shampoo, get it all out. If you don't, it's gonna be put all into boxes. I was like, oh my God, thank God, thank God. And I'm running around like packing this tiny suitcase at like 7am. Anyway, whatever. It's done and dusted. Well, it's not. It's in the middle of happening.

• 14:45Speaker 01

  Haven't even started. Do you know what, though? I, I feel like when you're moving, it's just, the next couple of days horrendous. And then, do you know what? You're in your gaff. And then all the nice sorting out happens and you're, you're in your own space and it would be nice.

• 14:59Speaker 02

  Well, well, your, your organizer that you recommended to me, Hazel.

• 15:03Speaker 01

  Hazel, is she coming over?

• 15:05Speaker 02

  She's coming over.

• 15:06Speaker 01

  Well, Hazel was like to me, Vogue, how much do you need me on Thursday or Friday? I was like, no, Hazel, I booked you in.

• 15:13Speaker 01

  I was like, I booked you in six months ago. I have to go through the baby clothes next week in Ireland where they are. Joanna's not having you.

• 15:21Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. So she's coming over this weekend. So I think, I think I'll be set up and ready to go to live my new life in about five days in this house. That's what I'm hoping.

• 15:31Speaker 01

  You'll be ready to, if she's coming over this weekend, you'll be ready to live in your house in two, three days. Your house will be like, everything will be unpacked. And I know it's, it's a privilege to be able to have somebody to help you to do something like that. But when you're super busy, like Joanna is, it's nice to have somebody to just. And also when you're, you're, you're, you're a messy girl at heart. It's, it's important to have somebody to come and put your stuff in the right place.

• 15:54Speaker 02

  I work hard and this is one of those situations, you're like, throw money at this now and just make all this go away. Do you know what I mean? Just make it all go away. I'm also in Warwick tonight. Peanut Floss is back tonight.

• 16:06Speaker 01

  Where the hell is Warwick? Warwick Avenue, Duffy?

• 16:10Speaker 02

  Warwick.

• 16:11Speaker 03

  Warwickshire. It's in the county of Warwickshire.

• 16:13Speaker 01

  Is that where Warwick Avenue is?

• 16:16Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 16:16Speaker 03

  No, Warwick Avenue, I think the one that Duffy was saying about is in London.

• 16:20Speaker 01

  Well, Duffy, another, another kidnapper, we will go back to Katie Price, everybody. But Duffy got kidnapped like for something like seven weeks in 2020, didn't she?

• 16:29Speaker 02

  Do you remember?

• 16:30Speaker 01

  And she's never named her kidnapper, but she said that she was, yeah, it sounded pretty bad.

• 16:35Speaker 02

  Cause she came out a couple of years ago and she, and everyone was like, Duffy? Yeah. What's, where's she been? What's been happening? And she, and she did say, I've been, I was, I was, I was kidnapped. And everyone was like, what? And it was like, if AI had been bigger at the time, I would have assumed it was fake news. Cause it seemed such a wild story. And then she kind of went away again and now she's back. And I think she's kind of ready to speak her truth. Yeah, I don't know. I, I'll be interested to hear what that was all about because that is banana town.

• 17:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't even know if she's gonna come out and talk about it, but yeah, she's because she's never named her perpetrator, only to the police.

• 17:09Speaker 02

  Was it someone she knew? Was it like, do we have any information?

• 17:12Speaker 01

  It's usually, it's usually some, if you get killed, it's usually someone you know.

• 17:17Speaker 03

  On Disney Plus, there's gonna be a whole.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  About Duffy? Yeah, but you see, you're right, it is usually someone you know, if you ha, if you're like a private person. But I think if you're a public person, there's a chance it could be some deranged stalker. Remember Jill Dando? Do you remember someone shot her on her doorstep?

• 17:34Speaker 01

  It was terrible.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  There was one man there she went, sent to prison first, and his sister fought tooth and nail, and then he was released. I think he spent like, I don't know how long he spent in prison, but a significant amount of time. And then it came, eight years, and then it came out that he wasn't guilty at all. And he had nothing to do with the crime. It was like, it was that kind of stalker mentality where they think they're in a relationship with someone famous. And then they try and kill them, basically, and he succeeded.

• 17:57Speaker 01

  I have a, I have a quiz question. There's only one question. Oh, no, I have two questions, because I did this, I did this crime thing the other day. Okay, how many murders in the UK do you think that they solve and find the murderer who actually did it?

• 18:10Speaker 02

  Oh, what a nice. Is this a percentage, as in?

• 18:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, percentage.

• 18:15Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 18:15Speaker 01

  Quick before I shout it out.

• 18:17Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 18:19Speaker 02

  Well, then it's not a quiz question.

• 18:21Speaker 01

  I haven't shouted it out.

• 18:25Speaker 02

  I asked, if you only give me a beat.

• 18:29Speaker 01

  Okay, okay, I'm reading. Okay, good, I'm reading. I've learnt, look.

• 18:32Speaker 02

  Well, I would say it's obviously gonna be something really, really low, so I'm gonna say, but I don't, but I don't wanna ruin your quiz question for you. I'm, I'm, I'm aware that it's really mean with some like underplays.

• 18:42Speaker 01

  Talk about confidence over there.

• 18:46Speaker 02

  Well, I could go really low and say 3%, and I've ruined the game.

• 18:50Speaker 01

  So you think 3% of murders, all murders in the UK get solved, and they find out who the murderer is?

• 18:55Speaker 02

  Is there not even 3%?

• 18:57Speaker 01

  How much are you saying, Jo?

• 18:59Speaker 03

  I'm gonna go right in the middle, 50%.

• 19:01Speaker 01

  90% are solved, they find the murderer, because it's nearly always somebody you know.

• 19:08Speaker 03

  See, that didn't go the way you thought it was gonna go.

• 19:10Speaker 01

  You didn't ruin the game, Joanne.

• 19:13Speaker 02

  It was your tone, Vogue. It was a tone, it was a tone of disappointment. So I assumed the result was, by the way, I'm also fully aware that we're laughing hysterically about murder rights, which probably, I don't know if that's a good look for us, but anyway.

• 19:28Speaker 01

  It was just, it was just the, oh, well, Vogue, I don't want to ruin your, I really don't want to ruin your brilliant game.

• 19:34Speaker 03

  We should definitely pitch the TV quiz show quick before I tell you the answer with Vogue Williams.

• 19:42Speaker 02

  It'd be hilarious. No one even gets to the buzzer.

• 19:46Speaker 01

  Quick before it turns into a sentence again.

• 19:49Speaker 02

  They're like, we don't even switch the buzzers on anymore. There's no point. No, no one ever gets to use them. We've taken the electrics out.

• 19:55Speaker 01

  I've one more and then we're coming back to Katie Price. Okay. How much do you reckon it costs to hire a hitman?

• 20:02Speaker 02

  Oh, now this, am I allowed?

• 20:04Speaker 01

  You should know this. Yeah, because I knew the.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  I should know this.

• 20:09Speaker 01

  This is possible. She could ruin the game here.

• 20:11Speaker 02

  That was, that was a confidential conversation, Vogue.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  Well, I knew exactly the answer when I was asked and I was like, oh God, I wish I'd gotten it a little bit wrong. So they didn't, but I think you've told me before or something.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  Maybe you're, I think you're glamorous enough to pull off a hitman. I do think you are. You do seem like the kind of person who, if a man wronged you, you'd be hitting. You'd be on the dark web. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 20:33Speaker 01

  No, you get one in the pub. I was told the pub is a great place to get one.

• 20:37Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 20:37Speaker 02

  But Vogue, sorry now, that's because you've never been in a pub. Okay. I go into pubs regularly. I'm telling you, it's not like they're wall to wall hitmen just hanging out, waiting to be hired.

• 20:47Speaker 01

  There's snipers at the bar, I've been told.

• 20:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're not playing darts. They're just practising.

• 20:56Speaker 01

  Okay, go on. How much for a hitman?

• 20:58Speaker 02

  Okay, so I would say it's in and around the 20K mark, pounds, which is, how many euros?

• 21:07Speaker 01

  I bet 22 euro.

• 21:09Speaker 02

  Fine.

• 21:09Speaker 01

  22k euro. Okay, Joanne, Joanne.

• 21:12Speaker 03

  I think it's cheaper. I think five grand.

• 21:15Speaker 02

  Sorry, also, just to say, I suppose you're looking into the quality of the hitting in the same breath. Do you know what I mean? You could probably find someone in the world who'd do it for a grant. But if you want to get a professional, do you know what I mean?

• 21:25Speaker 01

  Profesh, profesh people, between three and five grand. The lowest that this fella had found was 200 quid. This kid killed a woman's husband for 200 quid and spent the money on a fake Gucci hat.

• 21:38Speaker 02

  Yep. Oh my god, that's disgusting.

• 21:42Speaker 01

  I know. Okay, so Katie Price.

• 21:44Speaker 02

  Whoa.

• 21:45Speaker 03

  So going back.

• 21:47Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 21:48Speaker 01

  Isn't it wild?

• 21:50Speaker 02

  But you know what it is as well? I mean, there's also people out there killing people for free. So like, it doesn't like the money, it's if you, if you really don't like someone, they're like, here, would you knock them off for 200 quid? Some people, they don't put any importance on the quality of life.

• 22:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, that's what I said when we were doing that. I was like, it was Grace Campbell and she was like, God, I'd be really offended if someone killed me for, for between three and five grand. And I was like, well, they could do it for free and that would be worse.

• 22:14Speaker 02

  There is a really good podcast, that's name escapes me now, but while I'm telling you, Jo will Google it and find out. And it is basically, this journalist discovered, he went into the dark web and decoded a hit list.

• 22:29Speaker 01

  What do you mean?

• 22:30Speaker 02

  So basically, people were, basically he set up a fake, hold on, let me get this right. He set up a fake, I think it was the police, they set up a fake account on the dark web where you could hire a hitman. So then, yeah, they had all these people that were, had hits out on them, but they were fake hits. And they were trying to entice the people who are booking the hits to find out who they were. It was really, really good. Jo, can you find the name?

• 22:57Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 23:00Speaker 02

  And it was all their husbands.

• 23:02Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 23:04Speaker 02

  Just husbands and wives.

• 23:06Speaker 01

  But do you remember, did you tell me that story about Angelina Jolie where you said that she tried to hire a hitman to kill herself?

• 23:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, supposedly she wanted to, she was really depressed and she spoke to a hitman to get him to kill herself so that her family wouldn't be as upset. And he was like, listen, I'm gonna go away, you think about it for a little while before we move forward with this. And then she didn't end up doing it. Yeah, she came out and said that. Jo, just fact check that, because that's really like, if I've made that up, first of all, there's something wrong with me.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  Allegedly.

• 23:37Speaker 01

  Well, no, I'm pretty sure she came out and said that. Like, that would be a very unusual thing for me to make up. I usually get that information off you, Joanne, and things like that. If it wasn't you, I'm concerned.

• 23:46Speaker 02

  Just like a me story, I'll be honest. But I'm not aware of it. Jo, are you doing any?

• 23:52Speaker 03

  Kill List. Izzy says it's called Kill List.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  Kill List. Oh, I'm gonna start listening to that.

• 23:57Speaker 02

  It's really good. It's dark. It's.

• 23:59Speaker 01

  Hit List. Thank you, Joanne, for our little, what's it called?

• 24:03Speaker 02

  Recommendation?

• 24:05Speaker 01

  No, we used to have Culture Pocket.

• 24:07Speaker 02

  A morbid recommendation?

• 24:09Speaker 01

  Could I add to Culture Pocket something?

• 24:12Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 24:13Speaker 01

  I'm really sorry, but it's my book.

• 24:15Speaker 02

  Okay, let's go. Let's do it. Yeah, listen.

• 24:18Speaker 01

  Big Mouth is it on paperback?

• 24:21Speaker 02

  If we can't use this podcast to promote our own bits and bobs.

• 24:23Speaker 01

  This is precisely it. So Big Mouth paperback, $10.99. I mean, come on. That's why people wait for the paperbacks.

• 24:31Speaker 02

  Congratulations, Vogue. It's great to see a lighter version of you.

• 24:35Speaker 01

  Thank you. I appreciate that, Joanne.

• 24:36Speaker 02

  A more mobile version. I like it.

• 24:39Speaker 01

  Great for the handbag.

• 24:40Speaker 02

  Yeah. Are we still running around and kind of vandalising bookstores, putting our own book in front of others? Because that is what you should be doing.

• 24:50Speaker 01

  That's what I will be doing when I get myself to Heathrow Airport today. I will be doing that. I'm off. I'm off to, I'm going to Cork for the weekend. Not that anybody asked, but I'm taking Gigi out of school early and she's getting to go on a little trip with me to Cork.

• 25:04Speaker 02

  Well, I can't wait till the Daily Mail picks up on that.

• 25:10Speaker 02

  I look forward to the headline.

• 25:12Speaker 01

  Vogue is not educating her children.

• 25:20Speaker 05

  Have you ever laughed at something you definitely shouldn't have? Like, you know it's bad, but you just can't help it.

• 25:26Speaker 04

  That's basically the entire premise of our podcast, Shouldn't Laugh But, with me, Laura Smith.

• 25:31Speaker 05

  And me, Carmen Butcher.

• 25:32Speaker 04

  We get into those moments that are a bit awkward, a bit chaotic, and yeah, sometimes a bit wrong, but very funny. Think wild confessions, questionable decisions, and the kind of stories you probably shouldn't admit out loud, but we do anyway.

• 25:48Speaker 05

  It's the stuff you'd normally only say to your closest mates, if that.

• 25:52Speaker 04

  Where can you get us from, Calms?

• 25:53Speaker 05

  Listen and watch on Global Player, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.

• 25:57Speaker 04

  Very good.

• 26:03Speaker 02

  What's Gigi's surname?

• 26:05Speaker 01

  Matthews.

• 26:08Speaker 02

  I was just wondering how you double-barreled her.

• 26:10Speaker 01

  No, no, and I'm like, Spenny's like, Spenny always wants me to change my name to Matthews. And I'm like, mm, I just feel like I have a track record. And if I, it's very difficult to change a name.

• 26:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:21Speaker 01

  And then to change everything back. And also, and then I'm like, and by the way, I love my name, Vogue Williams. And he's like, you're not Vogue Williams, though. And I'm like, that's actually true, because I changed my name when I was 17.

• 26:31Speaker 02

  You have a couple of identities.

• 26:33Speaker 01

  But I am legally Wilson, but I use Williams, because I was Williams when I was born.

• 26:38Speaker 02

  You're like Jason Byrne. No, Jason Bourne, from The Bourne Identity, with so many bloody identities.

• 26:42Speaker 01

  I'm glad. Jason Byrne? Is that not his name?

• 26:44Speaker 02

  Jason Bourne. Bourne again, Vogue. I'm glad she didn't double-barrel Gigi, because it doesn't sound like she's going to be able to read or write very well.

• 26:53Speaker 01

  That's why her name had to be G.I. G.I. She only needed to know two letters, really.

• 27:00Speaker 02

  Ah, so funny. I was saying, one of them.

• 27:03Speaker 01

  Okay, do you want to spell Caterpillar? Come on.

• 27:05Speaker 02

  Don't do this to me again.

• 27:08Speaker 01

  Come on.

• 27:08Speaker 02

  You know I have a mental block on the word caterpillar and spaghetti.

• 27:10Speaker 03

  You've had time.

• 27:12Speaker 02

  Do you know what I've been doing?

• 27:15Speaker 01

  You're not allowed to talk about it.

• 27:16Speaker 02

  Well, I'll tell you, it wasn't sitting in a room and learning how to spell caterpillar. Okay.

• 27:19Speaker 01

  I don't, I'm sorry. I'm sorry if I seem harsh and mean about Katie. I just feel like this is just another like kind of thing. And like, I genuinely think about like, imagine like, if I'm like, oh, imagine how annoying it is for her kids all the time. I just feel like, come on.

• 27:34Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 27:34Speaker 01

  We need to be grownups now.

• 27:36Speaker 02

  You're coming at it from a mother position. I'm coming at it from a woman who has made some bad decisions regarding men.

• 27:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, so have I though. We've all made bad decisions.

• 27:46Speaker 02

  We all have, we all have, but there is, I did, I did find one thing here. I was like, this is, because she is a hustler. We all know Katie Price is a, she's a hustler. And she was on her YouTube channel saying that, you know, the only thing kind of helping her through this difficult time is her own CBD brand of gummies and oils.

• 28:07Speaker 02

  And it was the first time I thought to myself.

• 28:08Speaker 01

  That I have respect for. I have respect.

• 28:12Speaker 02

  I was like, hold on a second now, but I think she's just like, listen, if everyone's looking at me, I might as well plug some shit, you know what I mean?

• 28:19Speaker 01

  My God.

• 28:20Speaker 02

  I know. But you know what I also find really interesting is that Lee Andrews, he must be doing a very good job of hiding wherever he is. Because I don't know if you have this vote, but I have women in my DMs who will report if they've seen any man around town that I have been romantically linked to at any stage. They'll be like, just saw your ex and so wearing a backpack. Gross.

• 28:44Speaker 02

  I get, I get told when they're like in airports and stuff. So I don't know how no one has reported or seen him or he must have gone.

• 28:51Speaker 01

  Jeez, I hope he hasn't been. I hope he hasn't been kidnapped. Imagine he has and I'm like, oh.

• 28:57Speaker 02

  We're like, pull the pot, pull the pot. We're like, we'll never survive this.

• 29:03Speaker 01

  Take it back. Well, I'm deeply sorry if he has been kidnapped, but I just, I have an instinct that he hasn't been.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, I know, I know. It does seem, it seems to, going on his previous behaviour, it seems to be quite unlikely that he's been taken against as well. However, if he has, Lee, we do, we hope you're listening and we hope you come back to us soon. We need answers.

• 29:26Speaker 01

  We would like answers.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  I didn't, maybe, do you know, say if he was kidnapped, it was probably one of his exes who he ripped off.

• 29:32Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, he is. He is a serious con man. Because did I tell you about, I saw a journalist talking about how he conned her out of money. But all this, like, I just, I don't know, there's all this. Well, if he is a con man like that, like, that shit has not stood for at all in Dubai. So if people are aware of him being in Dubai, and Dubai don't want them, well, they don't really want anyone wrecking what they've got going on, you know?

• 29:57Speaker 02

  Would they be chopping a hand off now, or is that too much?

• 30:01Speaker 01

  It would be more like lifetime prison sentences, yeah. I mean, you can't even say that they're getting bombed because they get really annoyed about that. And it's like, okay, but you are though.

• 30:10Speaker 02

  But the expats, they seem to have free rein over there. I think, I think, we'll be in prison with the Kinahans, we'll get all the goss from the Irish side.

• 30:18Speaker 01

  Oh my God, I can't believe that. Well, I mean, he was wandering around going to boxing matches and now he's been caught. One of the Kinahans, Jo.

• 30:25Speaker 02

  You know the Kinahans, Jo?

• 30:26Speaker 03

  The Kinahans, for people not aware, one of the biggest Irish crime family, maybe one of the biggest Irish.

• 30:31Speaker 02

  They're the only one, really, that I'm aware of. But of course, I'm into like mainstream mafia because I'm obviously not in that community. So it's only when they really hit the mainstream do I find out about them. But yeah, they're on Interpol's most wanted list and all, like, it's quite a thing. It's quite a thing.

• 30:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is. But they got away with it for ages in Dubai. They've got lovely houses and stuff over there. I have been, speaking of the Kinahans, I have been Robin Anxious Preoccupied Blind since she got away.

• 30:58Speaker 02

  Good. I'm glad.

• 31:00Speaker 01

  Bored bags.

• 31:03Speaker 01

  I got two full bags.

• 31:05Speaker 02

  Why do you sound like Nigel Farage screaming boring there?

• 31:10Speaker 01

  Boring. I tell, we should stop laughing about Nigel Farage because there is that, this is when I back away from living in the UK. I'm like, nothing to do with me.

• 31:21Speaker 02

  Uh oh, yeah.

• 31:22Speaker 01

  Nothing to do with me.

• 31:24Speaker 02

  There's our lane. Let's stay in it. Thank you.

• 31:26Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh.

• 31:28Speaker 02

  When I was, when I was away on my job, I watched, have you watched, this is my recommendation, the documentary, The Crash, about your one Mackenzie Shirilla, who drove her boyfriend and his friend into a wall at 100 miles per hour and killed the two of them, and she survived.

• 31:47Speaker 01

  Why, what? Why did she do that?

• 31:49Speaker 02

  Well.

• 31:50Speaker 03

  Well, you gotta watch the doc.

• 31:50Speaker 02

  You gotta watch the doc.

• 31:52Speaker 01

  I've just downloaded that podcast. What's the doc now? It's on Netflix?

• 31:55Speaker 02

  It's on Netflix.

• 31:57Speaker 01

  What's it called? The cra- of the, the crash.

• 31:59Speaker 02

  I think it's called the crash show, isn't it?

• 32:01Speaker 01

  It is. It's called the crash. Oh my God, she's a very young girl. Is this serious? Is this, um?

• 32:05Speaker 02

  Oh, this is serious. She was 17 years of age. Dominic Russo and Davian Flanagan. Davian Flanagan was Dominic's friend. He was sitting in the back. They're, Dominic and Mackenzie had a fairly toxic relationship. Word on the street is he was trying to get out of it and she was like, he, he, he has recordings and stuff of her outside his house and being just an absolute nut job, like abusive, just an abusive nut job. She drove the three of them into a wall at a hundred miles per hour. And then they, obviously the, the police were like, what's happened here? There was no braking. She never broke once. She never put her foot on a brake. She drove, she, and, and accelerated into a wall. And then they started, they were trying to, she said there was something wrong with the car. They took the car apart.

• 32:50Speaker 02

  Eventually it went to court and they're like, you murdered them. You murdered the two of them. But now of course.

• 32:55Speaker 03

  She said she blacked out. She said she was not conscious.

• 32:58Speaker 02

  She says she had.

• 32:59Speaker 01

  Okay, don't tell us anymore. We have to watch it.

• 33:02Speaker 03

  No more spoilers, no more spoilers.

• 33:03Speaker 02

  This isn't a spoiler, but she's, she's obviously trying to get out now, right? So she's defending her, her parents, her parents. Oh my God. I mean, if there was, I, I, I mean, if there was a prize for her worst parents alive on Netflix, these two are getting it. Like no accountability. They don't, they think she's completely innocent. Oh, she's as guilty as sin. She says she had low blood pressure and she blacked out. That's like saying you've got athlete's foot and you fucking drove a car into a wall. Like it's not an excuse. You're like, I was trying to scratch my foot off the accelerator. But watch it, watch it. It's really good.

• 33:36Speaker 01

  I've started watching Legends, which is very good as well. It's, uh, it's on Netflix as well. Yeah, it's really, really good. Come here to me. I have to tell you, did you know Amanda Knox is doing a show in the Edinburgh Fringe this year?

• 33:48Speaker 02

  I didn't. I'm I didn't.

• 33:51Speaker 01

  And she's got her third autobiography type book coming out. Now, I know that you're unsure. I am. Joanna and I are on different sides of the fence about Amanda Knox. She went to prison for murder, for murder of her flatmate at the time, Meredith Kurtcher. And and then she got out again because there wasn't enough evidence. And so she was her murder charge was taken away from her. And then she was sent back to America and she's since written three autobiographies about it. Now she is doing an Edinburgh Fringe show about it.

• 34:26Speaker 02

  I know. Well, so we

• 34:27Speaker 01

  Which screams innocent to me.

• 34:30Speaker 02

  It's so isn't it so funny when someone you love and respect has a completely different opinion to you and you're like, how? Like, I think she I'm not unsure. I think she's completely innocent. I think it was one of the biggest miscarriages of justice.

• 34:43Speaker 01

  I spoke to I spoke to a criminologist who was working on on the Amanda Knox case. And he like, he was, he basically thinks that she did do it.

• 34:55Speaker 02

  There's just like, yeah, I don't know. Like, did you watch the documentary?

• 35:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, I do think she did it. I do. It's a funny like, it's it's kind of it's wild. But like, I do. I do definitely think that she did.

• 35:08Speaker 02

  It's crazy.

• 35:08Speaker 01

  With the Lucy Lepi stuff and people think that Lucy Lepi didn't do it. She absolutely did it.

• 35:13Speaker 02

  Well, she's I think she's a different beast. Now, maybe it looked, I don't know. I but I do think the Lucy Lepi case is a different beast, but the Amanda Knox thing, if like, the they got her to sign confessions. She didn't even speak the language. Like, they completely set her up. They just wanted to get it over and done with. And they and she's an international student and they found a vibrator in her room and then kind of slushamed her into this like absolute like sex monster. And but there was a man arrested for it who went to prison for it.

• 35:39Speaker 01

  I know, but she was like, she she's she's definitely a narcissist when you when you actually watch her stuff and everything. But she basically she wrote these hundreds of pages of diaries in prison, mentioned the Meredith Kurtcher once in hundreds of pages of of diaries over the course of talking about what happened. It was it's just, I just think she's

• 35:59Speaker 02

  Either I just think she's so completely innocent. I'll be honest, if I was in prison for a murder I did not commit. I think honestly, I think I would be writing about myself as well, rather than like, I think people wanted her to express. Remorse and she, she's like, of course I feel sorry for marriage, the culture and her family, it's awful, but why am I in prison for a crime I didn't commit? I think that was kind of her vibe. But do you know what? I knew she had worked in, I knew she'd moved into stand up comedy. So that's very interesting. I mean, at the end of the day.

• 36:28Speaker 01

  She's doing comedy?

• 36:29Speaker 02

  She's doing stand up. At the end of the day, your name is Amanda Knox, you're within, well, like you're, what are you going to do with your life? You can't go and get a job in marketing. You're super famous for, and half the people you know, you think you killed someone. What are you going to do? You know? I kind of, I kind of understand why she did it, to be honest. I'll take a look, I'm going to Edinburgh. I'll try and get a ticket.

• 36:48Speaker 01

  You are going to Edinburgh? When are you going up there?

• 36:50Speaker 02

  I'm only going for a couple of days. I'm not doing a show, just going to go up and have a look.

• 36:54Speaker 01

  Oh God, that's nice.

• 36:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:56Speaker 01

  You do, you, yeah, you do enjoy it up there.

• 36:58Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 37:06Speaker 01

  Did you see I went to Cannes when you were away?

• 37:08Speaker 02

  I did. What?

• 37:10Speaker 01

  I know. Yeah. Well, I, I got invited over and I thought, why the hell not?

• 37:14Speaker 02

  That's hairy. Very highfalutin.

• 37:16Speaker 01

  I know, you don't get invited to Cannes very often.

• 37:18Speaker 02

  How did that come about? Like.

• 37:21Speaker 01

  I went over with Nespresso and we basically just got to go and, and watch, and watch a movie, but we did the red carpet and stuff for, for one of these movies. And there was this girl on the red carpet. Oh my God, it was so amazing. So she was wearing this red dress and so like, everybody kind of goes along the red carpet and everyone's like, they have markers that you stand on. So you get your pictures in front of the different kind of photographers. This random girl like was on the red carpet and she just kept standing in front of everyone and the photographers were like, go away. And I was like, she's amazing. Fair play to her.

• 37:52Speaker 02

  I saw that.

• 37:53Speaker 01

  She is getting in a picture if it kills her. Yeah. I thought, I was like, fair play. She literally doesn't give a shite.

• 38:00Speaker 02

  I saw that. Do you know what I saw? I saw some video going around and I was like, that's such a fair point. Someone was, someone was, they posted that video and they're like, why do they invite people to Cannes if they can't, if they don't want them to try and get a photo on the red carpet? Like, is that not why everyone goes?

• 38:16Speaker 01

  Now, the only thing about her was like, everyone kind of like gets in a line and like you just get your pictures. Not everyone gets pictures because obviously like not everybody that goes to it is is well known. But she was like, I am getting a picture if it kills me. But my God, the people watching there, what everybody was wearing, like just normal randomers walk along the street dressed up to the nines.

• 38:35Speaker 02

  Really?

• 38:35Speaker 01

  It was wild. Yeah.

• 38:37Speaker 02

  What was the movie?

• 38:38Speaker 01

  So I went to see the beloved Javier Bardem.

• 38:41Speaker 02

  Stunning.

• 38:41Speaker 01

  Do you know what? It was such a cool experience to go and do something like that. I was absolutely knackered after it though. Jesus.

• 38:46Speaker 02

  This is, it's very showbiz to fly into Cannes. I think they call it.

• 38:51Speaker 01

  Ah, well, I flew EasyJet, if that makes it any better.

• 38:54Speaker 02

  Sorry, EasyJet go to Cannes?

• 38:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, to Nice. You fly in to Nice.

• 39:00Speaker 02

  I'm shocked.

• 39:01Speaker 01

  I know, but.

• 39:02Speaker 02

  Poor EasyJet. Everyone just have the moment with all the, no, no, sorry. I'm thinking of Jet2 Holidays. I'm thinking of Jet2 Holidays.

• 39:08Speaker 01

  Jet, sorry, Jet2 Holidays voted the best airline in Europe for the second year in a row. I saw that. There you go.

• 39:14Speaker 02

  I love her aviation stats. This is wild.

• 39:17Speaker 01

  Well, I'm always flying.

• 39:19Speaker 02

  Well, the, God love them, those, the budget airlines, they get, they get a bit of a rep because when stuff kicks off, usually on like the kind of, I beat the flights and stuff. People film it and then they put it online and then they get a reputation for being this just kind of brawl in the sky. Where everyone's just pissed trying to stab each other. And I'm sure, I'm sure that's not the case. I mean, you flew to Nice. I, I, I, how was it? Was there any stabbings or?

• 39:41Speaker 01

  No, it was very, very relaxed. It was a very early winning flight. Nice isn't the kind of place I think that people go to do all that kind of stuff.

• 39:48Speaker 02

  I just have this image of a cabin crew up the top just throwing out buzz balls for everyone, just getting people rallied up and then there's karaoke down the back and all.

• 39:55Speaker 01

  Do you know, I've never had a buzz ball. I was only thinking that the other day. I've never tried one.

• 40:00Speaker 02

  When you look at the online videos, that's the impression you get of those airlines, but I'm sure it's not correct. I mean, I fly Ryanair all the time and I've never been stabbed.

• 40:06Speaker 01

  No.

• 40:07Speaker 02

  I have something to say.

• 40:08Speaker 01

  Go on.

• 40:10Speaker 02

  If you put up a story on April 1st as an April Fools joke, I think it's good practice to take it down on April 2nd. Because what happens is these things stay in the algorithm and they get served to me on May 21st. And I believe them. It happened to me yesterday again. I actually put it into our group as something to be discussed. And of course it wasn't true at all. I believed for a 24 hour period that they were electrifying the Molly Malone statue. So that if anyone tried to rub her breasts, they would get electrocuted. I believed it.

• 40:42Speaker 01

  Well.

• 40:42Speaker 02

  Take your Phil's jokes down. I was already thinking about who I'd send from the UK.

• 40:47Speaker 01

  John.

• 40:48Speaker 02

  You know when people say.

• 40:48Speaker 01

  I believed it until 30 seconds ago.

• 40:51Speaker 02

  Stop.

• 40:51Speaker 01

  Until you just tell me, I swear to God. No one told me that wasn't true. You just, I can't stand AI. AI is really bad for people like me and Joanne. It's not right.

• 41:02Speaker 02

  Well, we can't even blame AI. This is just a made up article. There wasn't like, there wasn't AI images of her.

• 41:07Speaker 01

  Sending me here bullshit. I, I believe everything you tell me.

• 41:10Speaker 02

  Well, we know there's a bit of a palaver in Dublin at the moment with the Molly Malone statue. Because people are going up and rubbing her boobs for good luck. And then they're, they're, then they were talking about getting a security guard for her because they feel like it's disrespectful. And of course, the argument is, I mean, it's a statue, you know, does she need to consent? We don't know. Does Molly, she's made of brass. I don't know. I don't know where I stand on that really. But so.

• 41:33Speaker 01

  What about the Blarney Stone? Everyone's going and kissing that and no one says anything. I can't believe people kiss that one after the other. Imagine kissing the stone that all the other people have kissed, rotten.

• 41:42Speaker 02

  I never thought about the Blarney Stone.

• 41:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, people are always rubbing stuff. I don't really, I don't really get why it matters like that. I don't know. Do you know what I mean?

• 41:52Speaker 02

  Where are we going into, we're go, we're moving into an area where we're asking if the Blarney Stone can consent to being kissed by a mark and tourist. And I say no, lock them all up.

• 42:01Speaker 01

  I just, I do believe that the stone has had enough interactions and I think it's fed up of being smudged all the time.

• 42:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, getting scored that often. I mean, it's a, I mean, what a shambles.

• 42:10Speaker 01

  That was like me at winter party when I was 16. I was kissing as many people as the Blarney Stone. Do you remember we used to do that? Did you ever do that?

• 42:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, of course. That's how I got, um, that thing that I had. What did I have?

• 42:22Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 42:23Speaker 02

  What's it called?

• 42:24Speaker 01

  I forget what it was called.

• 42:25Speaker 02

  The kissing disease.

• 42:26Speaker 01

  I was gonna say.

• 42:26Speaker 02

  Menarche.

• 42:27Speaker 01

  No. Gonorrhea. What's the kissing disease?

• 42:31Speaker 02

  Glanular fever. Glanular fever.

• 42:33Speaker 01

  Glanular fever.

• 42:33Speaker 02

  I got the fever from Irish college.

• 42:35Speaker 01

  Oh, my God. I actually never caught anything.

• 42:38Speaker 02

  I put in a solid shift on the train up and down. Scored about 300 people and got glandular fever. And then Pat, of course, wanted me to admit that I'd scored people and I wouldn't. I was like, no, no. And she was like, it's the kissing disease. It's the, it's the only way you can get it, which of course is a mother's white lie, just to get you to admit something that you're basically a whore.

• 42:59Speaker 01

  Oh, Jesus.

• 43:01Speaker 01

  Oh gosh.

• 43:02Speaker 02

  We've all been there. We've all been there.

• 43:03Speaker 01

  Well, Joanne, we're thrilled that you're back. I'm gonna get you really, really drunk and I will extract information. I will. I will get you drunk and I will find some kind of...

• 43:16Speaker 02

  You'll get nothing out of me. You'll get nothing. I'm gonna wire my jaw shut. I'm hoping I just forget about it all and then when it airs, I'll be like, "Oh my God, no way."

• 43:26Speaker 01

  "Oh my God, I won."

• 43:28Speaker 02

  "I won. That's mental." "I didn't even know. I didn't even know I was in Scotland."

• 43:34Speaker 01

  "Mad." "Jesus Christ, did I do the traders?"

• 43:39Speaker 02

  "Do you know, I'm so surprised that you didn't wanna talk about Venezuela Fury Vogue."

• 43:43Speaker 01

  "Well, I did, but yesterday you told me on the bonus that you didn't know anything about it, so I didn't. I was watching the Furies last night and I followed Paris Fury. I loved that. I want to be in that family." "Until next week, my friends. I've enjoyed. I'm enjoying that we're back."

• 43:58Speaker 02

  "So am I and I apologize for how I look. It's, it's, my body's slowly shutting down."

• 44:03Speaker 01

  "Oh, and the book is out. Big mouth. There you go."

• 44:06Speaker 02

  "And of course, my North American tour is also on sale. Toronto, Vancouver. I should say Venezuela. Toronto, Vancouver."

• 44:13Speaker 01

  "It wouldn't surprise me if I saw you in Venezuela, to be honest with you."

• 44:17Speaker 02

  "Las Vegas, Denver, San Francisco. It rolls on joannemcly.com."

• 44:28Speaker 06

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