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552 - She Was Such A Cat

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

Hosted by Georgia Hardstark and Karen Kilgariff

1h 2m
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Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark return for a new episode of My Favorite Murder, covering two notorious and unsolved or historic criminal investigations. Georgia dives into the tragic and still-unresolved 2008 Lane Bryant shooting in Tinley Park, Illinois, where five women were killed and a sixth survived to give a chilling timeline. Later, Karen explores the history of the Houston Police Department's groundbreaking Chicano Squad, a bilingual task force established in 1979 that dramatically raised the clearance rate for homicides in Hispanic neighborhoods despite deep-seated institutional racism and hostility from colleagues. The hosts also share personal updates and pay tribute to Georgia's long-time cat, Mimi.

  • The 2008 Lane Bryant murders in Tinley Park remain unsolved despite a surviving witness providing a detailed description and DNA evidence recovered from the scene. 13:51
  • In 1979 Houston, homicides involving Hispanic victims suffered from a low 20% clearance rate largely driven by a severe language barrier and police indifference. 38:31
  • The Chicano Squad cleared 40 out of 52 assigned cold murder cases within their first 90 days, achieving an 80% clearance rate. 55:54
  • The Chicano Squad officially disbanded in 2010 not due to failure, but because the department had successfully integrated enough Spanish-speaking officers. 1:01:31

Chapters

  1. 0:01
    Podcast Intro and Advertisements

    The episode opens with a series of commercial spots for Zillow, OnDeck, and other sponsors before the hosts begin their conversation.

  2. 1:15
    Hosts Welcome and Basement Party Teaser

    Karen and Georgia introduce the episode, joking about a basement party and setting a light‑hearted tone for the discussion.

  3. 2:15
    Geodesic Domes and Sound Bathing Story

    The hosts dive into a quirky tale about geodesic domes, indoor pools, and a sound‑bathing experience that sparked their curiosity.

  4. 4:45
    Lizzie Borden Watch‑Along Announcement

    They announce a planned watch‑along for the upcoming Lizzie Borden series, teasing future content and fan engagement.

  5. 12:00
    Lane Bryant Cold Case Overview

    Karen explains the unsolved 2008 Lane Bryant murders in Tinley Park, detailing the victims, the suspect, and the ongoing investigation.

  6. 25:00
    Investigative Challenges and Survivor Testimony

    The hosts discuss the difficulties investigators face, the survivor’s testimony, and the lack of leads despite extensive DNA and tip‑line efforts.

  7. 40:00
    Houston Police Chicanoh Squad History

    Georgia recounts the 1979 creation of Houston’s bilingual task force, its impact on solving Hispanic‑community crimes, and the legacy of the Chicanoh Squad.

  8. 49:38
    Task Force Fieldwork Tactics

    The Chicano Squad’s proactive door‑to‑door outreach builds trust and yields immediate leads.

  9. 51:15
    Breaking Cold Cases Through Community Trust

    Cecil Mosqueta’s approach solves a long‑standing homicide by engaging hesitant witnesses.

  10. 52:06
    Scaling Success: From 12 to 52 Cases

    Within 90 days, the unit clears an impressive 80% of its assigned murders, earning city recognition.

  11. 52:59
    Rapid Response to Cantina Killer

    The squad’s quick call‑in system leads to the arrest of a repeat offender in a local bar.

  12. 58:09
    Nationwide Kidnapping Rescue

    The squad’s Spanish‑speaking network traces a missing baby across borders, restoring her to family.

Highlights

  • 13:51

    The Tinley Park Shootingstory

    Georgia details the February 2008 murders at a Lane Bryant store in an extremely safe Chicago suburb. A lone gunman held multiple victims captive for 40 minutes before executing five women and leaving one survivor.

  • 38:31

    Houston Police Disparitiesdata

    Karen explains the stark contrast in 1979 Houston, where murders of white or Black victims had a 70% clearance rate, while crimes involving Hispanic victims sat at just 20% due to language barriers.

  • 42:10

    Forming the Chicano Squadstrategy

    Detective Jim Montero convinced his chief to form a 90-day pilot task force of bilingual patrol officers to bridge the massive trust gap between the Hispanic community and a corrupt police department.

  • 45:01

    The Flaco Misunderstandinginsight

    The bilingual task force quickly discovered that white detectives had failed to investigate a key lead because they mistook the Spanish word for skinny, 'flaco', for a proper name.

  • 54:19

    Resenting the Task Forcedebate

    Hostile white detectives tried to overwhelm the unit with cases and mocked their competence, motivating the squad to work harder and prove their capabilities.

  • 55:54

    Stunning Clearance Ratesdata

    Assigned 52 cold cases to test them, the Chicano Squad cleared 40 murders in just 90 days, eventually reaching a remarkable 91% clearance rate by 1997.

  • 1:02:14

    Zero Officer-Involved Shootingsinsight

    Founder Jim Montero proudly noted that despite making numerous arrests in a violent era, the Chicano Squad never fired their weapons or killed a single suspect.

Quotes

  • “The survivor says he was between 5'9" and 6'2". He looked to be in his mid-20s to mid-30s and had a broad, solid build.”
    Georgia Hardstark · 30:07
  • “"We started out as interpreters, that lasted about a week."”
    Karen Kilgariff · 46:27
  • “"We put the word out. We're not in the deportation business. We're there to help. You've got to talk to them, get them to trust you."”
    Karen Kilgariff · 49:29
  • “We did a lot of foot investigation, a lot of knock and talks. We didn't just sit there. It was hands‑on. We did whatever it took”
    Karen Kilgariff · 49:38
  • “When I did my first murder, being able to bring that closure, I felt good about that. That gave me purpose”
    Karen Kilgariff · 53:49
  • “They were thrown everything they had, anything that sounded like a Spanish surname, more in resentment of their existence. But these guys worked them all”
    Karen Kilgariff · 54:19
  • My Favorite Murder 1:06:30–1:07:45
  • Hero Cosmetics 1:08:00–1:08:32

About this episode

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Topics

  • Chicano Squad
  • Houston Police Department
  • KPRC 2
  • Virgin Voyages

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