Fangirling with Adam Scott

Adam Scott joins Chelsea to discuss his borderline-overboard fandom of Robert DeNiro, smoking in bars in the 90’s, and how to lock down your dream girl. Then: A couple has never spent a night away from their kids. Online dating has destroyed one woman’s ability to flirt. And a daughter wonders whether she should reconnect with her MAGA mom. * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [email protected] mailto:[email protected] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees. This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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  Hi, Catherine.

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  Hi, Chelsea. You were just in New York City.

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  I was. It was a whirlwind, Catherine. It was a family whirlwind. I have two nieces. Nieces, yes.

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  I saw you with arm in arm.

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  Adorable. And I met them for the first time. My brother has been married for a few years, but I never met them. And because they were living elsewhere. And so they're here.

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  It's been sort of an immigration nightmare situation, right? Is that done?

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  Yes, it is.

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  That's amazing.

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  So that's great. And they were lovely and so sweet. Yes, it's so nice to see my brother married with children. It's so sweet. He found his, he found the lid to his pot, Catherine. Isn't that sweet?

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  I know. I remember we did a mini-sode with him, or we did an episode with him way back in the day. And I think he had just started dating her, maybe, or it was early days.

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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. They told me some funny stories. And my sister lives right by them, so she's really helping out. And that's really cute. And I like, yeah, it's just one big happy family.

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  Oh, I'm glad.

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  Over at the Handler household.

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  Did you see, speaking of New York City, did you see this thing that Mom Donnie did to like, help people meet their love?

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  No. What did he do?

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  So someone posted, like, you know, Mom Donnie's doing all this cool stuff, like, oh, Mom Donnie, help with this, and this, and this. And this guy posted, like, I'm supposed to be having a date with the love of my life here at this library, da-da-da, in Brooklyn. And so Mom Donnie not only responded to it, he like reposted it, and he's like, scheduling little meet-cute events and stuff.

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  That's really cute. He must have picked that up from my matchmaking online.

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  He's copying you.

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  Oh, he's always copying me. Mom Donnie's doing good things in New York City.

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  It's actually really exciting.

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  Yes. I did the Pivot Podcast with Kara Swisher this week, that I think airs tomorrow. And she does this thing at the end called predictions. And I predicted that Abdul El Sayed will win Michigan. That's my prediction. That's my political prediction. And my also political prediction is that Mitch McConnell is dead. And I like the news that we got about, I don't know how this will be received, but who really gives a shit, Brad Pitt is back on the sauce. I mean, honestly, if you quit drinking to get your family back and they don't come back, then why are you quitting drinking?

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  And they remove your name.

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  And seven years is the period of time that we've spoken about at length, that it's time to move into a new phase. And if I get one more thing on my fucking algorithm about this fucking lunar eclipse and this, what the next 12 years of hell are gonna be like, and Pisces, Pisces. My algorithm is like you're walking into a fire pit of hell. No, it's actually saying you're walking away from it. But it's just so annoying all day long. I'm like, I, I can't hear anything more about these eclipses.

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  No, no.

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  It's just too much.

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  I can't hear about bad news and bad things coming.

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  The shifting and all these tarot card readers, how did these even start coming up on my algorithm? I blame Yamanika.

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  It's witch talk.

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  And Yamanika, because she's all about it, you know? Yeah. Also, by the way, if you haven't listened to What, You're the Problem with Yamanika, that's our latest, that's our latest offering here at the Dear Chelsea Network. We have a new podcast called You're the Problem with Yamanika. So please support her and listen and download and subscribe.

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  And she's so funny and she's so fun.

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  And she is. And it's such a fun podcast. I'm actually really enjoying it, even though I have to listen to it.

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  It's your, it's your job right now.

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  Tango K. Escucharlo.

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  Yes.

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  Okay, we are introducing a very special guest. You know him from Severance, Parks and Rec, Party Down, and more. And his new movie is The Whisper Man, which is out on Netflix now, which is fucking awesome, and has my other boyfriend in it, Robert De Niro. Please welcome Adam Scott. Are we good to go, Brad? Because I'm ready to rumble. And Adam's ready to rumble.

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  I sure am. Is this a good spot for it? Is this appropriate?

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  It's not appropriate, actually. We need you to take your hands off of that mic.

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  Sorry.

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  Okay, we live in a very, we're living during a very sensitive, or actually, we're living in a very desensitized time. We went from very sensitive to desensitized.

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  Right, right.

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  It sure is.

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  It sure is. Your hair, as usual, looks magnificent. Are you happy with it?

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  I'm fine with it.

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  I just watched.

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  As long as you're fine with it.

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  I just had the pleasure of watching him get his hair coiffed in my kitchen. So I liked that.

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  Drybar situation.

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  It's just impressive to see a head of hair like this. I know you talk about your hair a lot. People ask you about your hair a lot.

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  People ask me about my hair.

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  Do you get self-conscious about it?

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  You know, I'm just grateful at this age that I have hair. So I'm fine with it. Because if I'm talking about my hair, I don't have to talk about something else.

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  Like the fact that you look so much like Tom Cruise?

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  That's right.

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  How does that make you feel?

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  Did I look like Tom Cruise?

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  First of all, do you think?

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  Do you think?

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  Do you think?

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  Do you think?

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  Do you?

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  I'm sorry, I started the sentence first.

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  I think I started this interview.

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  I look like Tom Cruise?

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  Yes.

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  You do?

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  Yes.

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  Interesting.

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  And do you?

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  I mean, it's a huge compliment, first of all. I understand why people have said it. But people used to say it all the time, like, a long time ago, and then it sort of stopped. So I wonder if there's an era of Tom Cruise where we kind of like matched up for a couple of years. And I don't know. I don't know culturally why it happened at a particular time. But I would take it as a huge compliment.

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  Yeah. Do you think that you and Tom Cruise have similar running styles?

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  Well, I would hope so. Because he's like the best cinematic runner of all time.

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  Yeah. Is he, is that what he's known for? His run, he's known for his stunts, right? Which include running?

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  Yes. But he's also known for, like, have you seen Born on the Fourth of July? Remember that movie?

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  Yeah.

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  Like, he's known for his performances as well.

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  Well, right, right, right. Of course. He's known for his acting. He's a good, he's a good actor. He's known for a plethora of things.

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  The thing about his running is that I don't think I've ever dedicated as much of myself to anything as he does to running. Like, his running is like, top-notch. Like, no one's ever, don't you think if you, his running in Mission Impossible movies, he is putting absolutely everything he has into those, those runs?

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  Well, he must, he probably, do you run on the side in real life?

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  No.

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  You only run in Severance?

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  That's right.

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  Because that's pretty much the only time I've seen you run. Oh, and your new movie, The Whisper Man, you run also.

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  Yes, I do.

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  But that's different. Because in Severance, it's really like, it's very, it's always in the same space. You're always in a hallway running.

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  And it's a lot of it. Like, we, it's, you know, we spend a lot of time shooting those sequences. So it's, and I don't like train for it or whatever, which I probably should.

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  Yeah. And I feel like Tom Cruise is training.

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  Oh, 100%.

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  He's probably got a running coach and a running style coach, like, to run so he doesn't look like an asshole. And you don't look like an asshole when you run either.

• 9:48Speaker 02

  It sounds like you were kind of saying I look like an asshole.

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  I thought it was gonna sound like that as well, which is why I followed it up with you saying that you're not bad at running.

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  Didn't look like an asshole. Well, I, I think that, like, his running, if he did the running that I do, he could do it and then work a full day after, no problem. Whereas I'm like depleted and need like bananas and Gatorade after I do it.

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  Right, right. Well, first of all, I want to congratulate you on your body of work, Adam.

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  Thanks.

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  You have a huge, it's a really impressive body of work. And you have a new movie, The Whisper Man, which is, has also, I want to talk about all the people that you've been working with lately.

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  Yeah.

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  Because it's a pretty impressive roster.

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  Thanks.

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  On Severance, you get to work with Turturro. And, and these are people, I'm talking about only the people that have been legends for a long time. Never mind all of the other people we get to see you interact with. John Turturro, Christopher Walken's in there, Patricia Arquette.

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  Yeah.

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  All legendary people. And in this movie, you get to work with De Niro.

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  Yeah.

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  And I know you've been around the block and you've worked with lots of cool people. What, what is it like on being on a regular set and that is, you know, where you're the main character of a show, and these people are supporting that, you know?

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  It's not something I get used to. And I think that, I think it's different, like, my kids have grown up now in Los Angeles and grown up around show business. So to them, I don't know what, how big of a deal something like that is, kind of growing up adjacent to, and all their friend, some of their friends' parents are in showbiz and stuff. For me, I grew up in Northern California in a, in a, in a small town where, I mean, it may as well have been in Milwaukee or something like, it was so, so disconnected from show business that, like, I kept my ambition to be an actor a secret till I was,

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  like, 17 years old, because it was so embarrassing that I wanted to, you know, like, it sounds, it sounded ridiculous, but it's all I thought about, all I cared about were, like, movies and movie stars and television and stuff. So, someone like Robert De Niro and getting to be in this movie with him was so crazy, because he's so fundamental to the reasons that I wanted to do this in the first place. So I guess the incredibly long answer to your simple question is, it's still kind of blowing my mind. And Totoro and Patricia and Christopher Walken, it's still wild to me, and I'm not, I don't think I'll ever

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  get, get used to it.

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  But don't you think at this point in your career, you're more prepared for it than ever? Like, if it had happened earlier in your career, do you think, first of all, I don't want you to get pigeonholed, because you're playing a widow. In Severance, you're a widow, and, and in The Whisperer Man, you're a widow. So we have to make sure that this doesn't become a recurring thing.

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  It stops here.

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  It stops here.

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  It stops now.

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  It stops here at Dear Chelsea.

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  That's right.

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  So, you play a widow in both of these movies. In this movie with De Niro, it's, it's a fucking awesome thriller. You move back to the town where your wife is from, and De Niro is playing your father.

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  Yeah.

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  And, and there are a lot, I think there's a lot of, for me, as a viewer, there are a lot of similarities in your ability, I guess it's your emotional availability that I'm impressed by, as in, watching you. Because you are really, like, I know the opening scene, which is very hard to get out of your mind from Severance, you know, when you're sitting in that car, and you're hysterically crying, and then you walk in and you see something shift. And that is also, like, you know, I was just telling him, how you feel when you watch it. Like, as soon as you go up in that elevator, there's something that shifts from the viewer. So, what you're doing is super compelling to even have that impact. And, and obviously, the direction and everything involved in that really, like,

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  lends itself to transporting you to a different place. And I was telling you, it took me a while to get into Severance, because it is such a different frequency that you're in when you watch that show.

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  Yeah.

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  So, I, I'm very curious to see, like, to hear about how you handle that, like, emotional, kind of changing your presence in the scene, because of what you're playing, the character you're playing. Like, how does one tap into that? Like, how do you do that?

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  Like, going from one to the other?

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  Yes. Like, there's a different look in your eye, and there's a different way that you're walking.

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  Yeah.

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  Slightly. Is that all intentional?

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  Yeah. I mean, it was, it was, it took a lot of kind of trial and error, because, you know, when we were starting, the scripts were great, and it was this whole different world and everything. But then you're there, and we're kind of starting from scratch, and Ben was really kind of guiding us to find this world, and find the particular tone of this world. And it was a lot of, like, experimenting and trying different stuff to see what would work. And when it came to my character, when we were kind of zeroing in on it, it was important, because it's not like two characters. It sort of is, but it is the same person. It's just two different sections of the same person. So it had to

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  feel like the same guy, but just like different versions. So, for me, the biggest difference ended up being just like, life experience. And so, you go down in the elevator, and it was almost like just scooping out life experience, because one of them is 40 some odd years old, and the other one's like, for all intents and purposes, like, two and a half years old. You have a certain, you're, you're, you know, the severance procedure leaves you with certain abilities and awareness about certain things, but-

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  Understand that you're thirsty, or that you have to go get a drink.

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  Exactly. Yeah. You know how to, like, yeah, get yourself food, or satiate, or whatever. But they've never experienced sleep. They've never experienced, you know, the sky, or whatever. So, there's a bunch of, and your life experience is scooped out. So it was kind of like a, a math problem, and going from one to the other in the elevator ended up being, like you said, like, there's something just behind the eyes that shifts, because it's just a completely different life experience, a completely different kind of realm of awareness. And I sort of, just to try, always trying to kind of, you know, you try and make something personal. And so, kind of a starting point for me was, when

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  we were starting out, I was just like, okay, maybe my, the innie is everything I like about myself. Like, sometimes I can be charming, or personable, or optimistic. Like, if, if I'm in the right situation, and I, and I kind of can reflect back on how I behaved, I can sometimes feel that way. And then, the outie could be everything I, I have disdain for about myself. Bad posture, kind of a pessimist, antisocial, you know, all those things that you are constantly pushing up against. And that character, that side of

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  the character has sort of indulged himself in all of the things that, that, that have kind of kept him from moving on from this horrible period. Anyway.

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  I heard you on Amy Poehler's podcast, Good Hang, where you were talking about the beginning state, like, just, just all of the different things that you've worked on, all the big hits you've had. And you were talking about losing out that role to Michael C. Hall in Six Feet Under.

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  Yeah.

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  It was between him and Michael C. Hall, which I thought was a fascinating story, great tidbit. And then, watching Michael C. Hall have all that success with Six Feet Under.

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  Yeah.

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  And you guys were talking about one of the times you got really close to something big, and that you didn't make that, and that you couldn't imagine ever being in that after seeing Michael C. Hall in it.

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  Yeah.

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  And I would say the same thing to you about Severance. Like, no one could play that role but you. And what you're saying about this lends itself to supporting all of that. Because this is, it's, like, I wouldn't even imagine reading that script and understanding what was happening.

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  Yeah, yeah.

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  Didn't you have to have a lot of conversations about it, or did you not?

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  Well, when I first heard the idea, it was way before there was even a script around. Ben just kind of told me the idea about, like, you go to work, and you don't know who you are in the outside world, you only know what's there, and then when you leave work, you have no idea what you did at work. And I just thought that was such a cool idea. So I couldn't, I couldn't get that. It sounded like, like a really good Twilight Zone episode, or something, you know? But yes, as we kind of dove in and got more and more detail about, not only the circumstances of the, the procedure, but the company, and the lore, and all of that stuff, yes, it was constant questions. And Dan Erickson, who created the show, was around, and he could sort of explain things, and

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  he has an answer for everything, and has kind of thought everything through. So yeah, it was a lot of, it's dense, it's a lot of information, and everything that you see and hear on that show is there for a reason, and has a lot, has a story behind it. So-

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  Yeah. I mean, it's pretty fascinating. It really makes you think.

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  Mm-hmm.

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  It really makes you focus, and it really makes you think. We were saying that this is one of the shows where you have to watch, and your phone really has to be away.

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  Right.

• 19:30Speaker 00

  You can't be diddling. Yeah. You can't be diddling yourself, and you can't be diddling your phone.

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  Okay, so now let's shift to The Whisperer Man. So this is a great story and, and like, I, I love the idea of being a single dad, not because your wife died, but I love the, I just like watching male characters. I think it's really nice to see a single father.

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  Yeah.

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  You know, someone who's like, it's their entire onus is to provide for this kid and take care of them emotionally, which your character really does, which I imagine you're a lot like in real life. I mean, everyone has always amazing things to say about you. I know you a little bit and you are definitely one of the good guys. That's the reputation you have.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  Very, very nice of you to say.

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  So you and your family should be proud of yourself.

• 22:37Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 22:38Speaker 00

  But when you're dealing with that kind of level of emotion, which you do in Severance as well, but especially in The Whisperer Man and you're, and you're dealing with that, like, what are you tapping into?

• 22:46Speaker 02

  I mean, the thing I thought was interesting about the script and kind of James Ashcroft, who directed it, is something he was really interested in too, is that this is a single dad who's kind of struggling. He wasn't the one, his wife was really the one who did the lion's share of parenting. And now here he is and he's trying his best to connect with his son and provide for his son. And he is, he's having a hard time. I mean, he's doing it, but it is a struggle. And in the midst of trying to do, do this right and

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  figure out how to do this, um, his son disappears. So I thought that was interesting, that it wasn't like some idyllic version of single parenthood. And then that you've seen a lot, I've seen a lot in movies where everything's great and perfect, things couldn't be going better. And then this tragedy strikes. Things are a bit of a struggle out of the gate. And so this horrible thing that happens, um, couldn't have come, uh, at a worse time. You know, working with MJ with this kid, who this wonderful actor who played my son

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  was really wonderful and he was so available. And being a parent, you know, especially working with someone who's 10 years, I believe he was 10 years old when we made the movie. I miss that age so much with my kids. They're 19 and 17 now. So they're essentially adults. So working with him and remembering what it was like to have, uh, you know, 10 year old and eight year old or whatever, was really, really, it was easy to kind of tap into that and feel, uh, those kind of feelings and that anxiety and, um, the constant worry

• 24:51Speaker 02

  you have for this kid. I mean, that never goes away, but at that age, it's a particularly tender, um, tender time.

• 24:59Speaker 00

  It doesn't go away?

• 25:00Speaker 02

  No.

• 25:01Speaker 00

  You're always worried for your children.

• 25:02Speaker 02

  Oh my God. Every time my kids leave the house, it's like, oh my God, it's embarrassing. It's like, be careful fucking driving like Jesus Christ. Don't like be late. Don't fucking drive 60 miles an hour down a neighborhood. Like, don't, just slow down and be careful. Don't look at your phone, you know, all that stuff.

• 25:28Speaker 00

  Do your kids respect you?

• 25:31Speaker 02

  Oh my God. No.

• 25:37Speaker 00

  That would be the worst thing to have kids that don't respect you at all. Like, I did not respect my parents at all.

• 25:45Speaker 02

  Of course not.

• 25:46Speaker 00

  As soon as I met them, I'm like, uh-uh.

• 25:48Speaker 02

  Yeah. No, thanks.

• 25:49Speaker 00

  And the teenage years, like, I mean, I don't want, I would never want to put, I wouldn't, the karma that I'm due for the way I treated my parents would come full circle that I was like, there's no way I can have children because it will just be hell.

• 26:02Speaker 02

  Oh my God. I was such an asshole. I remember my mom would, if I had like dirty dishes in the sink, she would ask me over and over again, do your dish? And I would just ignore it. She would bring the dishes into my room and put them on my bed. And I would just take them, put them on the floor and I wouldn't do it. Like what an asshole.

• 26:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, that is an asshole.

• 26:24Speaker 02

  What a shithead.

• 26:24Speaker 00

  Do you have brothers and sisters?

• 26:25Speaker 02

  I had an older brother and sister. Yeah.

• 26:27Speaker 00

  So you were the youngest.

• 26:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:28Speaker 00

  So, yeah.

• 26:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 26:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, we're the worst ones. I'm the youngest in my family as well. Yeah.

• 26:33Speaker 02

  How many brothers and sisters?

• 26:34Speaker 00

  Five. There's six of us all together. So I was the number six. So nobody was even trying to get me to do dishes. They were just like, just shut the fuck up for two seconds, please.

• 26:43Speaker 02

  You have like a free pass.

• 26:44Speaker 00

  They were like, if you could just go in your room and be quiet for an hour, we're fine. We'll do your dishes for you.

• 26:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 26:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. So how does your, what, tell me about parenting. I want to know, like, what has surprised you? What has surprised you about your wife becoming a mother? I know it's been a long time. Or maybe what surprises you about your wife being a mother that you didn't know about her before you had children? Anything?

• 27:08Speaker 02

  I think that she, she's incredible. And I don't think it's a surprise necessarily that she was, or is, so I'm thinking about the kids being really little right now. How adept she was right out of the gate for, uh, being a parent and was really the person I followed. I really kind of looked to her to figure out how to do this. It's really hard. There's a lot of really, it's really complicated and hard, particularly as they

• 27:48Speaker 02

  get older. But I always had her as a role model for parenting, truly.

• 27:57Speaker 00

  She took the lead in the beginning.

• 27:59Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, I guess it depends on what kind of aspect of it you're, you're talking about. But yeah, I would always follow Naomi's lead. I think she is an incredible parent and, and any, any, we have, our kids are incredible people. And like I said, they're like grownups now. It's so crazy. And they are incredible people. And I entirely credit her with that. I'm lucky that I grew up with great parents as well, but, um, I'm, I'm consistently still just blown away by what an incredible, incredible mother, mother she has been and still is.

• 28:42Speaker 00

  Do you think that's just being a female instinctually, like having a maternal instinct?

• 28:46Speaker 02

  I think that's part of it. But I think she's, she has a real emotional availability and really, really, uh, perceptive. And intellectually, she's brilliant. And I think that really comes in handy too. Like she's always five steps ahead of all three of us.

• 29:07Speaker 00

  So I guess the next question is, does she respect you?

• 29:10Speaker 02

  That's a great question.

• 29:12Speaker 00

  Which we're gonna need to ask her.

• 29:14Speaker 02

  You gotta get her in here to find out.

• 29:16Speaker 00

  How did you two meet?

• 29:18Speaker 02

  We met at Cat in the Fiddle. Do you remember that bar?

• 29:20Speaker 00

  Oh, yes. Yes.

• 29:21Speaker 02

  On Sunset?

• 29:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, of course.

• 29:23Speaker 02

  Where you could smoke outside?

• 29:23Speaker 00

  Yes. Yeah. I used to go there with all the comedians, Cat in the Fiddle. Yeah.

• 29:28Speaker 02

  Totally. Um, after what club were?

• 29:31Speaker 00

  Well, there were all these like little clubs that weren't like the main clubs, like Comedy Store and Improv that were over on that side of town. Like there was like Mixed Nuts, which was on Pico and La Brea. But there was clubs over there, like, I forget some of the names of them, but there's always these small little rooms where you could go up.

• 29:46Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 29:47Speaker 00

  And then go.

• 29:47Speaker 02

  More east.

• 29:48Speaker 00

  Uh huh. Yeah. East into like, yeah.

• 29:50Speaker 02

  Yeah. We met there, cause everyone smoked back then. And that was the best bar. You could go in and play darts, but you could go outside and smoke.

• 29:57Speaker 00

  People, people are smoking this back, by the way.

• 30:00Speaker 02

  I know.

• 30:00Speaker 00

  People are smoking. I can't believe it.

• 30:01Speaker 02

  Dude, it's everywhere.

• 30:03Speaker 00

  I know. I just don't understand. It's like what, we've, we've lost all information.

• 30:07Speaker 01

  Cause the kids love the 90s.

• 30:08Speaker 00

  I know.

• 30:09Speaker 02

  Is that what it is? Cause well, here's the thing is that vaping obviously took hold for a while, but then everyone came down so hard on vaping.

• 30:18Speaker 00

  Right.

• 30:19Speaker 02

  That all these kids were addicted to nicotine. They're like, okay, I guess we can't vape anymore. May as well just go to the source.

• 30:26Speaker 00

  Right.

• 30:27Speaker 02

  And it looks cooler. So let's just start smoking. It's crazy. You're right. It's everywhere. Were you ever a smoker?

• 30:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, of course. Of course. I've done everything. Always.

• 30:36Speaker 02

  It was the best, wasn't it?

• 30:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. I don't smoke anymore because I'm too old to smoke. Like it's cool. You know, in Europe, once in a while I'll have a cigarette because I don't believe you can get cancer there. And, um, if I'm on vacation and other people are smoking, I figure, you know, okay. But I never go, I don't smoke here. I would just, I just find cigarettes to be gross in the way that you should have, I think probably were similar ages. Okay. So back to how you met your wife. Did you just throw in a piece of nicotine gum while we're talking about nicotine, by the way? Okay.

• 31:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:05Speaker 00

  Just wanted to clock that. Yeah.

• 31:06Speaker 02

  I haven't smoked a cigarette probably in 12 years or something.

• 31:11Speaker 00

  And, okay. So you were a smoker too?

• 31:13Speaker 02

  I sure was. I loved it. Yeah. Oh my God. An actor in the 90s in Los Angeles?

• 31:21Speaker 00

  I can see it. Yes. What else would you do? You run your fingers through your hair and smoke a cigarette and deliberate over how you're gonna deliver a scene.

• 31:28Speaker 02

  You should see my head jaws from like 1995.

• 31:31Speaker 00

  Oh, I can only imagine.

• 31:33Speaker 02

  I mean, I auditioned for all the Scream movies and I know what you did, all that stuff. I was here trying to, you know, get something. And so it was that whole Skeet or Rich and that whole era of like actors.

• 31:47Speaker 00

  Yeah. We had Dave Franco on recently, who was telling us that you were together when you guys met the Pope.

• 31:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:54Speaker 02

  Isn't that crazy?

• 31:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's crazy.

• 31:56Speaker 02

  Did you go on one of those Pope trips?

• 31:58Speaker 00

  No, he hasn't requested me yet.

• 32:00Speaker 02

  You should meet the Pope.

• 32:01Speaker 00

  Did you get requested?

• 32:02Speaker 02

  I mean, I got invited. I thought it was fake.

• 32:05Speaker 00

  That's a request.

• 32:06Speaker 02

  I guess.

• 32:06Speaker 00

  That's what Dave said too. He was like, I couldn't believe, we couldn't believe we were going to meet him.

• 32:10Speaker 02

  It was strange, but you know, whatever. Interesting.

• 32:14Speaker 00

  I'm more interested though in your wife and the Cat in the Fiddle.

• 32:17Speaker 02

  Cat in the Fiddle. Okay. So we met at the Cat in the Fiddle. I saw her from across the bar, that outside area. Remember that big fountain?

• 32:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, of course.

• 32:25Speaker 02

  And I was like, I want to meet her. And my friend, I was doing a play in the midst of doing a play and the friend I was with in the play, he was like, I know her friend. And he was a Brit and he walks over to his friend that they knew each other from the UK. And she introduces me to Naomi and Naomi said, is like, nice to meet you. And then she's like, I have to go and she just left because she did not, she heard I was an actor and immediately was like, no way, and just left.

• 33:01Speaker 00

  Smart.

• 33:02Speaker 02

  Smart. But then I got my friend to talk to his friend and get them to come to the play we were in. It was down at the taper downtown, the Mark Taper Forum. And they came to that play and it was on closing night. And afterwards, there was like a closing night party and that's where we started chatting. And we went to a, an after party at Amanda Donahoe's house. Do you remember that actor, Amanda?

• 33:30Speaker 00

  It sounds familiar.

• 33:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, you would recognize her. And I don't know how it ended up at her house because she was not in the play. But we were in the backyard and there was a golden retriever and just the three of us sat there for like three hours, just talking. The dog did not talk, but Naomi and I did.

• 33:50Speaker 00

  Thank you for that clarification. And thank you to the listeners and thanking you on their behalf for that clarification.

• 33:57Speaker 02

  No talking dogs.

• 33:58Speaker 00

  The viewers and the listeners. This is also on Netflix, so people can watch you and see your hair.

• 34:02Speaker 02

  Believe me, if the dog talked, that would have been the headline.

• 34:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, of course.

• 34:10Speaker 02

  I met my wife.

• 34:10Speaker 00

  And now you guys run a production company together. You have a production company, you work together.

• 34:14Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 34:15Speaker 00

  How long have you guys been working together?

• 34:16Speaker 02

  We've been working together since like 2012 about.

• 34:23Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 34:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's been a while.

• 34:25Speaker 00

  That's nice.

• 34:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:26Speaker 00

  Right?

• 34:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, it's great. I mean, we did it sort of out of necessity. We made this series of specials for Adult Swim where we recreated opening credit sequences for 80s television shows, shot for shot. We made these opening credit sequences. So, and I was directing them, she was producing them and, and we created it together. So we needed to come up with a company and we came up with a name and did everything. And then it went really well, working together, because you never know how that's gonna, it could be dicey. But it ended up being great. And so we just kept going and kept doing it and, and we're now going on like over 10 years.

• 35:12Speaker 02

  It's wild.

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• 36:30Speaker 00

  So let me turn that question about parenting back to you.

• 36:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:34Speaker 00

  Has there, what was the most surprising thing that you found out about yourself as a parent?

• 36:42Speaker 02

  You know, what's interesting is that when you, there's a weird, and it's all cliched. Everything I'm going to say is a cliche, because everything that, I know it always sounds cliche when people talk about parenting, but when you're raising kids, whatever age the kid is at, you are, immediately start flashing back to memories when you were at that age and you start remembering things. And maybe it's, it's part of a process of just trying to empathize with the kids and trying to see the world through their eyes. But for whatever reason, I was kind of flashing back to everything in, in my life, growing up as a kid.

• 37:25Speaker 02

  And I'm glad that happened because it's, it's good to be able to kind of see yourself through the, and, and, and, and you really kind of start to see whatever patterns you may not want to repeat with your kids.

• 37:41Speaker 00

  In a parenting sense or like?

• 37:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I guess the thing, if I'm thinking about what, what would surprise me, I guess, I mean, there's the cliche thing of you never knew you could love something so much, which is totally true. I think that I, I've just been consistently surprised and sort of amazed at them and the people that they've become and the young woman and young man that, that they are now. Because you don't have much perspective on it until you really, you really have to step back because you know, you're in the midst of it. And so you don't see them growing. It's just happening.

• 38:25Speaker 02

  And it's not until you look at a photo or whatever, really step back. And then to really step back and kind of see them as formed people now is something that never stops kind of amazing me. And if I take pride in anything, it's that, it's that they've, that they've turned out all right and turned out to be terrific people.

• 38:49Speaker 00

  Are they in the business?

• 38:51Speaker 02

  My daughter is an incredible actor and in theater at school and my son has no interest whatsoever.

• 38:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, I had a boyfriend who once described it as wondrous. He said the word wondrous and I had never heard anyone use that word before in a sentence.

• 39:07Speaker 02

  Kids growing up.

• 39:07Speaker 00

  With regard to just having children and seeing these little versions of yourself. And then seeing them kind of just gather all of their information and tools that life has to offer, some of which you provide and some that they get on their own.

• 39:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:22Speaker 00

  Independent of you. And that they come together and they form their own opinions and then they become these little people with their own opinions. And sometimes those opinions are different than yours. And you're like, hey, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on here?

• 39:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:35Speaker 00

  So, and especially in a town like this, because raising kids in LA cannot be easy.

• 39:40Speaker 02

  No.

• 39:40Speaker 00

  I mean, I, I don't, yeah, that's just seems like.

• 39:44Speaker 02

  Why do you say that?

• 39:45Speaker 00

  Just seems like it's too much industry, too much.

• 39:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:49Speaker 00

  You know, I feel that way as an adult when I spend too much time in LA. So I can only imagine as a parent, how it must feel to have so much exposure. I mean, it's, it's good to have the exposure because it kind of lessens your, or mitigates your la la la about it, your attitude. But also at the same time, it's, it's very rarefied.

• 40:07Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 40:08Speaker 00

  It's not really representative of the real world.

• 40:10Speaker 02

  That's right. That's right. I wish, I mean, if you want to be, have a career in show business, I think it's, it's beneficial to grow up in show business because then it's completely demystified.

• 40:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:22Speaker 02

  And because I'm still nervous around Robert De Niro, whoever. But if you grow up in it, like I would imagine if my daughter ends up wanting to pursue a career in, in show business, she's going to have a leg up, not because of being, you know, a nepo baby or whatever. I think all of that is, can only take you so far. If you're really, if you really want something that's going to last, you have to have the goods and the chops or whatever.

• 40:50Speaker 00

  And in many cases, you have to work even harder to prove yourself.

• 40:53Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 40:54Speaker 00

  I mean, I know plenty of people that have had that. It's like, oh, they're rejected because, oh, that's so and so's daughter. We can't hire that person. You know, it's like, there's, it's not like it's all sunshine and roses over in that department.

• 41:06Speaker 02

  Totally. But you at least are, once you're kind of there doing something, you're not going to be completely freaked out by everything.

• 41:14Speaker 00

  By the way, did you just hear my dog talk? My dog just.

• 41:16Speaker 02

  What did he say?

• 41:17Speaker 00

  He just, it was a loud snore, but he, I think there was a syllable in there.

• 41:20Speaker 02

  I believe so.

• 41:21Speaker 00

  I think he said, I can't.

• 41:23Speaker 02

  He can't with me. He's like, I can't.

• 41:26Speaker 00

  I think so.

• 41:27Speaker 02

  Enough from this guy.

• 41:29Speaker 00

  I think that's what he said.

• 41:30Speaker 02

  I got that vibe when I came in earlier.

• 41:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. Were you nervous when you did your scene with De Niro or had you had done anything with him prior to The Whisper Man?

• 41:39Speaker 02

  No, I, I was nervous the whole time. I did not get used to being around him at all. Do you know him?

• 41:46Speaker 00

  I don't. I mean, I've, no, I don't know him.

• 41:49Speaker 02

  Have you met him?

• 41:49Speaker 00

  I fucking love him.

• 41:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, man.

• 41:51Speaker 00

  I mean, I.

• 41:52Speaker 02

  He's the best.

• 41:53Speaker 00

  Who doesn't love Robert De Niro?

• 41:54Speaker 02

  I know.

• 41:54Speaker 00

  First of all, he's like 80 years old and he's got his shit together. Like he's fucking chugging along in that movie.

• 42:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, he shows some like physical, I was like, whoa, look at him.

• 42:05Speaker 02

  I know, man.

• 42:05Speaker 00

  Pretty spry, like a spring chicken.

• 42:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:08Speaker 00

  I just like his attitude. I like that he calls out bullshit all the time.

• 42:11Speaker 02

  I like that he calls out Trump too.

• 42:13Speaker 00

  Love that. Who doesn't love that? I mean, and it goes off, you know? We need more people doing that in his position. But yeah, I'm obsessed with Robert De Niro. I've found him, I've, I've seen every single movie he's ever been in. And it's nice, I feel like we're in living during a time where he's more accessible than he was like in the seventies and eighties before, you know, because he was like, you know, actors like that were harder to see.

• 42:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:35Speaker 00

  And now they're more pervasive, like they take on more jobs, the movies are TV, TV is the movies, that kind of thing.

• 42:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:41Speaker 00

  So what, how did you handle your nerves with him?

• 42:44Speaker 02

  Well, just for some background, I had Robert, I would cut pictures of Robert De Niro out of like Premier Magazine and put them in my locker. I had them on my wall in my bedroom.

• 42:57Speaker 00

  Tricky.

• 42:58Speaker 02

  I even. Tricky is right. I even took a picture of him. Remember the tattoos in Cape Fear? I had a picture of him on the CD tray that came out of my CD player. So the him from Cape Fear would come out at you if, when the tray opened. I was like, people would be like, what are you doing? Like, you need to calm down about Robert, Robert De Niro. So I, you know, when you're there with the person and they're talking to you and everything they're doing is so fundamental, like, you know, like you said, you've seen everything that he's done. So it's so strange

• 43:42Speaker 02

  to actually be there and then have to work and, and not make a fool of yourself.

• 43:52Speaker 00

  Like, are you the type of person that wants him to respect you? Or are you trying to get him to like you? Or are you the type of person that like wants to make him laugh?

• 44:01Speaker 02

  I'm, I, I just want to make sure the scenes are working and I'm doing my part there. That's, that's it. Because everything else, it's Robert De Niro. He's one of the great actors that we've ever had, one of the greatest actors we've ever, ever had. So I'm not gonna dance around and try, try and get him to like me. It's way too intimidating to do. In fact, there was one time when I was talking to Naomi on the phone and I, I was like, hey, so I was thinking, there's this, I have this question about The Irishman and I wanted to ask Bob about it. And I think

• 44:43Speaker 02

  tomorrow, we're working together. I think I might find a chance to, to, to, to approach him. And, and there's this thing I've been wondering about. And she's like, Adam, you are starring in a movie with him. You're not like, an extra, or you have one scene. You can ask him about The Irishman. What are you doing? I'm like, yeah, you're, you're right. I'm in the thing with him. And so I did, I asked him about The Irishman and he was like, yeah, great. And he's just, he's the, actually such a sweet, accessible person, is what you come to find out. So it was, it was lovely, but I never, ever got used to it.

• 45:27Speaker 00

  Well, you know, I know you did like podcasts on U2, like some other bands, right? Springsteen, did you do?

• 45:33Speaker 02

  We did that. We did U2, R E M, Talking Heads, and Springsteen.

• 45:38Speaker 00

  So four of those?

• 45:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:40Speaker 00

  Because that would, Robert De Niro would be a good subject matter for a podcast also.

• 45:42Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, you're right.

• 45:43Speaker 00

  Really, I mean, for film buffs, that people would love that. So, okay, out of those four bands, who is your, I just gave you your next podcast idea. You're welcome. So you, out of those four bands, do you have a favorite? Out of?

• 45:56Speaker 02

  R E M.

• 45:57Speaker 00

  Really?

• 45:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're my favorite.

• 45:59Speaker 00

  Out of all of them?

• 46:00Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 46:00Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 46:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 46:02Speaker 00

  Were you in a video with R E M?

• 46:04Speaker 02

  I, yeah, I was a, an extra in a video of theirs.

• 46:07Speaker 00

  Oh, really?

• 46:08Speaker 02

  We like, one tick, like, the chance to go be in the video on the radio, me and my friends, drove down here and, and did that, like, 1992, I believe, is.

• 46:20Speaker 00

  How many R E M concerts have you been to?

• 46:23Speaker 02

  Man, a lot. I've saw them so many times. I think they're the best American bands.

• 46:29Speaker 00

  Wow, that's quite an endorsement.

• 46:31Speaker 02

  I know.

• 46:32Speaker 00

  Good.

• 46:32Speaker 02

  Right? Are you not a fan? You seem surprised.

• 46:35Speaker 00

  No, I'm not, not, not a fan. I just, they're not my, I love Springsteen. I love U2. I like R E M. I've just never been like an uber fan of R E M. But was the podcast?

• 46:45Speaker 02

  I mean, we're the generation that grew up with all those fans, right?

• 46:49Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, Springsteen, I came into later in life because somebody took me to a Springsteen concert in Oslo, Norway. And I was like, what the fu, holy shit.

• 46:59Speaker 02

  Incredible.

• 47:00Speaker 00

  I cannot believe this man. He is the coolest of all time. He's another one, you know, who speaks up. And I love that. It's like, all these old guys.

• 47:09Speaker 02

  The fact that his tour right now, he's going around and talking about.

• 47:13Speaker 00

  Have you seen him recently perform?

• 47:14Speaker 02

  I saw him like, three years ago. It was amazing.

• 47:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, he, he's like, he's 75, I think now, 75, yeah, 75. And he's, he performs for three hours.

• 47:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:25Speaker 00

  And U2, you've seen a bunch, right? It's nice to see all these kind of old guys up there fucking rocking it out and like showing people how it's done. And also emblematic of the fact that we obviously have access to medicines and treatments that we didn't many, many years ago. That these guys are like out there blowing it up and dancing. It's pretty cool. But when I remember seeing Bruce Springsteen for the first time, I've seen U2 a bunch of times, and Talking Heads, I love the Talking Heads.

• 47:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:54Speaker 00

  I don't think I ever saw them in concert.

• 47:55Speaker 02

  I didn't either.

• 47:56Speaker 00

  Oh, you didn't?

• 47:57Speaker 02

  Well, they broke up like, in like, 1989 or 19, something like that. So it was, no, I never did, unfortunately. I've seen David Byrne, though. He's incredible.

• 48:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's still kicking it. He's kicking it around and he's having a resurgence.

• 48:11Speaker 02

  It's amazing. It's a great show to see him, see him perform, yeah.

• 48:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. That music is so evocative. Like Talking Heads specifically takes U2 eight times. Like Bruce Springsteen is like, you know, his library is so long.

• 48:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:23Speaker 00

  And so is U2's that there's songs that hit you for certain times, but Talking Heads like takes you to the moment, wherever you were when you heard that.

• 48:33Speaker 02

  Like mid 80s.

• 48:34Speaker 00

  And R E M too, R E M, for sure. I remember all of that.

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• 49:55Speaker 00

  Are we ready for some callers?

• 49:56Speaker 01

  We're so ready.

• 49:57Speaker 00

  Okay, great.

• 49:57Speaker 01

  We're so ready.

• 49:59Speaker 00

  Have you been to therapy, Adam? Yeah.

• 50:01Speaker 01

  You can wait on those because we'll have one that's just an email.

• 50:04Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 50:04Speaker 01

  We'll like, save your hair like a couple more minutes.

• 50:08Speaker 00

  You could also put them on like this, Adam, if you don't want to ruin your cloth.

• 50:12Speaker 02

  Don't think I hadn't already thought about it.

• 50:14Speaker 01

  One ear. Well, this is just a quickie. This is our one drink question. B says, I'm trying to convince my best friends, a couple, to go on vacation to Mexico with us this summer. The problem is, they have not spent one night with both of them away from their kids. Their kids are seven and eight. They can afford a sitter. How do we convince them to take some time away being adults? B.

• 50:36Speaker 02

  They're seven and eight?

• 50:37Speaker 01

  Seven and eight.

• 50:38Speaker 02

  And they've never been away from their kids? Oh, my God. They have to do that. They have to.

• 50:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:43Speaker 02

  They have to. I think, you know what might help is if they find an example of someone that does that often, like, once a month, they take a couple of days away from their kids, or every few months, or whatever it is, and present it to them as, doesn't this look fun?

• 51:02Speaker 00

  Also, there's so much, like, information available.

• 51:06Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 51:07Speaker 00

  To support the idea of taking breaks from your children makes you a better parent.

• 51:12Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 51:12Speaker 01

  I also think the kids want a break from their parents. Like, they love going and having a sitter come or grandma, grandpa, or whoever it is. It's fun and different.

• 51:20Speaker 00

  It's also just, it's just a good system and healthy, like, boundary to get into so that you're not seven or eight years old, like, you're, you're going into like, super, obviously their family is a codependent family, like that, you can't avoid being codependent with your family. That's just the way it works. But you want to teach these kids, you know, like, some sort of independence and not have it go on to where they're 14 or 15 and they've never had a sleepover. I had a friend who had a 15 year old who had never slept over somebody else's house.

• 51:48Speaker 01

  Apparently, like, sleepovers have kind of gone away, which makes me so sad.

• 51:51Speaker 00

  Everyone's worried about their kids, you know, getting molested, which is reasonable. But hopefully you couldn't, I mean, that is a reasonable fear, but it's not like, it shouldn't be your only, you know, your driving force. I mean, you, you can make, have people that are gonna be with your kids that you know and trust.

• 52:09Speaker 01

  Right.

• 52:09Speaker 02

  So it doesn't have to. Live a little, get molested.

• 52:13Speaker 00

  Get out there. Get out there.

• 52:14Speaker 02

  You gotta get out there at some point. No, I, our kids did sleepovers all the time. And, and at some point, those kids are gonna go to camp or whatever, like, they have to get away from their parents.

• 52:25Speaker 00

  Doesn't sound like they're gonna go to camp.

• 52:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, doesn't sound like it.

• 52:26Speaker 00

  But this is a good first step. I mean, yeah, just tell them it's a fully endorsed plan by all parties you spoke to.

• 52:33Speaker 01

  Yes, yes. Leave your kids for a week or whatever, a few days.

• 52:36Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 52:37Speaker 01

  Well, Perry says, online dating broke me. Dear Chelsea, big fan of the show, even bigger fan of Doug, I need some advice on how to push myself out of the habits I've developed from online dating. I'm 28 and I've been living in Montreal for 10 years. I've been technically single for about four and a half years, overcompensating for several years of serial monogamy. I love my life and I'm very fulfilled with my friendships and career. So after a long hiatus of single girl style dating, a long-term situationship, and admittedly, a fear of commitment, I've decided I'm officially ready to start looking for something serious. Here's the issue. I've been online dating since I was 16. Sorry, Mom and Dad.

• 53:14Speaker 00

  Oh, there's a whole generation of people just like you.

• 53:18Speaker 01

  And it seriously impacted my ability to initiate interactions with people who interest me in person. I'm quite extroverted and I'm generally pretty good at going after what I want. This definitely comes through when I'm swiping and I never hesitate to ask someone to meet for drinks when a bit of interest has sparked. But if I meet someone out in the world, even if we're flirting, I have completely lost my nerve to take the next step of asking them for their number or to go on a date. I know this likely stems from a fear of rejection, which is a much bigger blow face to face than it is over the apps. Not to mention that everyone I talk to on the apps has already shown interest before we start talking. But I want to open this door for myself. As natural chemistry is everything, I'd love to be able to confidently ask people out when I meet them face to face. I'd love any advice you can give me. I've had a crush on a guy at my gym for months

• 54:00Speaker 01

  and even though we're already chatting, I always get tongue tied before I can take the next step. Perry.

• 54:05Speaker 00

  Oh, this is so fun. I, this is so fun. There's nothing like creating a new habit, first of all. Hi, how are you?

• 54:13Speaker 03

  Hi.

• 54:13Speaker 00

  Nice to see you.

• 54:15Speaker 03

  Stung to be here.

• 54:16Speaker 00

  Oh, well, we're happy you're here. This is our special guest, Adam Scott's here today.

• 54:20Speaker 02

  Hi.

• 54:21Speaker 03

  Hi.

• 54:22Speaker 02

  Nice to meet you. How's it going?

• 54:25Speaker 00

  Bet you didn't expect that.

• 54:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:27Speaker 00

  Okay, first of all, this is the perfect way to start is to go up to this guy in the gym and say exactly what you said to us, in a shorter way. Just to say, listen, I am trying to break my habit of only online dating and actually working on my skillset about initiating. And so you can say yes, or you can say no, but I am just practicing right now. I've been noticing you for the last few months, however you want to phrase it, but use that guy as your first step in and use that storyline as your intro or entree or entry. I'm not sure which word I'm thinking of right now, but to get into this situation, because you can form a new habit into like, you know, I, the people say 28 days. I think it's like fewer than that.

• 55:12Speaker 00

  I think you could really form new habits in six or seven times. Like, I think if you really do something and you make yourself do it, it's not that hard. You're just, you've just been trained online. Like, you just kind of have to unlearn that behavior. But it's really also empowering, regardless of what the response is, to go up to someone and say something like that. And it's going to become its own kind of intoxicating thing for you to do. Don't you think, Adam? I mean, you probably haven't experienced online dating ever because you've been with your wife.

• 55:41Speaker 02

  Isn't that crazy? But that's

• 55:43Speaker 03

  Consider yourself lucky.

• 55:45Speaker 02

  Well, most people, most marriages these days are, it's people who met online, right? And apps and stuff. I mean, I think if you went up to him and said what Chelsea just said, he would be so psyched. I mean, first of all, it would be so flattering, but secondly, it's so refreshing that someone would, uh, would say something and just be upfront like that, because everyone's hiding behind the apps these days.

• 56:14Speaker 00

  Yes, and, and keep that in mind. Like, you're not the only person that's experiencing these, like this app, like dating lifestyle. Everyone in your age and younger and older is also dealing with the same thing. So it's going to be refreshing for him too. And it really doesn't matter what anybody says. This is an exercise for you. So even if he says no, I doubt he will, honestly, unless he's got a girlfriend or a wife or something, which, you know, then, fine. But even if he does say no, who gives a shit? There's a, you know what I mean? Like, you're going to get used to the idea of, like, it's more about you empowering yourself and like making that move than about what is like the end game and the response that you get.

• 56:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's all very good advice. I, I think I've just gotten into the habit of if I do take interest in someone in person, kind of, you know, laying the groundwork, but waiting for them to make that final move.

• 57:09Speaker 00

  That's lame, because I used to be like that too, but it's like, who, we don't have time for that.

• 57:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:14Speaker 00

  We're only here for a short period of time. Like, you gotta go after what you want. And here's something that I always do that might help you. I always just think on behalf of all women, when I'm doing something like that, when I'm being like, you know, like doing something that kind of scares me, I'm like, I want all women to feel this way. I want to empower all women with the move that I'm making. So like, think of all women when you do this. Like, you're not just helping yourself, you're kind of setting an example for anyone who might see you do it, even though I'm sure you don't want an audience, you know, like, it just kind of think about it as like an energetic vibe that you're setting the tone for.

• 57:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:47Speaker 00

  And that you're kind of helping other people like level up to the moment too. And, you know, think about like going up to people, that, that's just a stronger move anyway than hiding behind a screen.

• 57:57Speaker 02

  I think that's such great advice and going into it thinking if he says no, or who gives a shit? That's not the point of it. The point of it is to just inject yourself into the world a little more. And whether this particular person has the reaction you want or not, it, it, it's not about that. It's about, you know, the next one will, you know? It's about getting yourself out there and like Chelsea said, kind of shifting your habits a little bit.

• 58:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think once, you know, I, if, if I get to the point where I reach two or three rejections and realize it's like really not as terrifying or as devastating as it sounds like it will be, I'll, I'll probably really settle into my comfort zone with it. But I, I think using that approach in general and just kind of being really upfront about wanting to get outside of the online dating space is, is a really good approach, because I'm sure I'm not the only one feeling this way.

• 58:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:55Speaker 00

  No, you're definitely not. And also, I wanted to just tell you a quick story. I had this, what you're talking about, like, me, I was shy, which is, I'm sure, hard for many people to believe. But I was at, I was in Whistler, this was many years ago, and there was a group of guys sitting at a table, and I was with my friend's daughter. She was like 16 years old at the time. And it was just me and her, and there's a group of guys, and there was one guy that I was like, oh, this guy's cute, dah dah dah. And then we got up from the table and we're leaving the restaurant. And I said to the 16-year-old girl, I'm like, that guy was cute. And she goes, let's go back. And I'm like, no, I'm not doing that. I'm like, they know who I am. I'm not going back to a group of men and saying, you.

• 59:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:31Speaker 00

  And, and she goes, I'll, I'll do it. And so she went back and she's like, oh, he's married. And I, and I was like, I can't believe a 16-year-old just did something that I should have been doing, you know? I was 40-something at the time, and I was like, I just remembered in that moment, I was like, no, next time I'm saying something.

• 59:50Speaker 02

  That's great.

• 59:51Speaker 00

  So.

• 59:52Speaker 01

  And remember, like, the ask is not like, hey, do you want to fall in love and get married? It's like, you want to grab coffee?

• 59:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 59:57Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 59:59Speaker 03

  Yeah. The big fear isn't finding out that they're in relationships. I actually did find out that this guy was single, and then it became scarier because I knew that a rejection like, wouldn't be because he was married, because that doesn't scare me. I'm not afraid of, you know, like, finding out, oh, you know, he's, he's already committed, like, that doesn't feel like a rejection, like being told, no, I'm not interested in you. So that kind of, as much as that seemed like it would be a step forward, kind of felt like a step back, but.

• 1:00:28Speaker 00

  Here's another thing about rejection. I think you should look at rejection, you just have to flip the switch of the way you're looking through things. Flip it upside down. Like, think about the opposite. Every rejection is closer to getting what you want. Right?

• 1:00:40Speaker 03

  That's true.

• 1:00:41Speaker 00

  Say you get rejected by five guys to meet the person that you're going to marry. Wouldn't you want to get there faster?

• 1:00:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:47Speaker 03

  That's a good point. I mean, there are only so many people in Montreal, eh?

• 1:00:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, there's a lot of people in Montreal. You're going to be fine. You're beautiful, you have a great spirit, it's all good. All good vibes. Spread the good vibes and do it and report back. Let us know what happens.

• 1:01:01Speaker 03

  I will, I will, absolutely.

• 1:01:03Speaker 02

  And you'll never know if you don't, if you don't ask, if you don't give it a shot.

• 1:01:06Speaker 00

  That's right.

• 1:01:07Speaker 03

  That is very true. And, um, yeah, if only it were in a place where I could have, you know, a glass of wine before, uh, but.

• 1:01:14Speaker 00

  It'd be funny to have a glass of wine and then go to the gym just for the purpose of asking him out on a date. That's something I would do.

• 1:01:21Speaker 03

  I'm certain that would, that would really be, uh, be, be helpful for, for my appeal.

• 1:01:27Speaker 01

  Awesome, thank you, Perry.

• 1:01:29Speaker 03

  Thank you so much, I really appreciate it.

• 1:01:31Speaker 02

  Nice to meet you.

• 1:01:33Speaker 03

  Bye, nice to meet you.

• 1:01:34Speaker 00

  Bye. That's cute.

• 1:01:35Speaker 01

  Cutie.

• 1:01:36Speaker 00

  That is cute.

• 1:01:38Speaker 00

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• 1:02:49Speaker 01

  Well, our next caller is Jeannie, and her subject line is, I cut off my MAGA mom. Oops? Question mark. Dear Chelsea, I've been at war with myself since January 29th of this year. That was the day I blew up at my mother over the phone and called her a hypocrite and a fascist and said I never wanted to talk to her again. I'm 53 and my mother is 85. She's ride or die MAGA and in complete denial of any facts provided by me or anyone else. She's so far in the cult, she doesn't think he lies, like at all.

• 1:03:18Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 1:03:19Speaker 01

  During his first term, she kept a framed picture of Trump and Melania in her living room. She's never done that with any other president. She's largely seared clear of initiating political conversations with me, but it's hard to avoid discussing Trump when she asks how I've been, because I'm so overwhelmed by all the terrible things he's doing. After the invasion of Minnesota and the killing of Renee Good and Alex Preddy, I was sure mom's position on Trump would have changed. In that final conversation, when I asked if she still supports him, she said, yes. I'm not proud of this, but I lost my shit. I told her she would have supported the, her Jewish neighbors being hauled away if she had lived in Germany in the 30s. I told her she would have supported Japanese internment camps. Both events, we discussed at length when I was a child, with her stating how awful these were.

• 1:04:02Speaker 01

  Her values have shifted and it's very hard to tolerate. In case you're thinking she's lost her marbles, that's not the case. She's sharp as a tack. Now that a few months have passed, I think I've made a mistake. Yes, her position is hypocritical and immoral, but she's my 85-year-old mother who has maybe 10 years left on this earth. As a mother, she's great, always loving and supportive. She's been a doting grandmother to my two kids. The war with myself is, should I apologize and resume our relationship, or do I continue to refuse to normalize her repugnant views? Either option feels terrible, but I don't want to lose these final years with her. Chelsea, what would you do in my position? Jeannie.

• 1:04:36Speaker 00

  Hi, Jeannie.

• 1:04:37Speaker 03

  Hi.

• 1:04:38Speaker 02

  Hi, Jeannie.

• 1:04:39Speaker 00

  This is Adam Scott, our special guest.

• 1:04:41Speaker 02

  Hi.

• 1:04:41Speaker 03

  Oh, my gosh, hi.

• 1:04:43Speaker 02

  How you doing?

• 1:04:43Speaker 00

  Hi.

• 1:04:44Speaker 03

  I'm okay, yeah.

• 1:04:46Speaker 00

  I feel for you. I, you're not alone at all. I mean, we get people calling in about this stuff all the time. I think what I've come to realize in the recent weeks is that I think you should treat Her, even though she's got, she's with it mentally, you have to treat like MAGA people like they have mental illness. Like you have to think of it like a mental illness. They're part of a cult and they've been tricked. Clearly, they've been tricked. If she was teaching you about the Holocaust and Japanese internment camps, she's been tricked, just like all of these people have been tricked into thinking that this person cares about them. So even though it's so hard to compartmentalize that, I think you should just really think

• 1:05:30Speaker 00

  of it like, oh, she's a victim of a scheme, you know, like she's chosen, even though she has free will. Like, I mean, she has chosen to be in this group of people, but you have to look at it like it's mental illness. And you can't, you just have to, because you, if you want this relationship with your mother, which I completely understand, why wouldn't you? You know, I think you just have to go to her. I don't know that you have to apologize per se. I think you should go to her with like, love and, and be like, listen, you're really, you're old, you're my mother. I need to, I want, I mean, not, you're not, you're old, you're gonna die. But you know, like, I want us to spend time with each other. You've been a wonderful mother. I know we don't agree on this stuff. And I think it's the

• 1:06:14Speaker 00

  best thing we can do is just to not discuss it and really focus on just having a loving, caring relationship and not bring up politics. And I know that's really hard right now. But I think you can do it because it's your mom. You know, you could talk about your family. You could talk about your kids. Do you have kids?

• 1:06:31Speaker 04

  Yes, I have two teenagers.

• 1:06:33Speaker 00

  Okay, great. So there's plenty to talk about, right?

• 1:06:36Speaker 04

  Yes. You know what? Now that you've framed it like that, like she's been tricked, like sometimes the elderly do get bamboozled. If I can, if I can look at her that way, I think I can manage to be calm.

• 1:06:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:54Speaker 04

  Okay. When, and just, just not talk about it. I think that's our only course of action.

• 1:06:59Speaker 02

  I know how tricky it is, though, because it's, I think back to like George W. Bush or Reagan or George Bush senior. And back to, back then, I had friends that were Republicans back in those days. And it was so much simpler. It was a political, it was a disagreement on politics. And so when people now are like, it's just, it's, it's just a disagreement. Why is it such a big deal? It is different, though. It's a disagreement about fundamental truths and about reality. So I know how, how this, how hard this is for you. And I'm

• 1:07:39Speaker 02

  sure it is so difficult to separate it from, because it's so ingrained in everything. Because what all the MAGA followers have been duped into is so fundamental and is so wide reaching. But I think what Chelsea said is exactly right. It's just a matter of zeroing in on the things that you can talk about and just focusing on, in on that. And it is true. She has been tricked. And a lot of older folks have been, a lot of older folks who are MAGA have been kind of pulled into this thing and taken advantage of.

• 1:08:21Speaker 04

  So you don't think I'll be compromising my values?

• 1:08:24Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:08:25Speaker 04

  By having, okay.

• 1:08:26Speaker 00

  It's your mother. It's your mom, and she's older, and she's not going to be around for a while. I don't think you're compromising your values. I really respect that you're asking that, because I feel like I think about that stuff a lot, too. It's like, oh, no, it's your mother. It's not like a guy you're dating. And you know what I mean?

• 1:08:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:41Speaker 00

  It's not like that. This is, you don't have a choice who your parents are. And this happened to your mother. This happened to your mother. That's how you have to think about it. This like, this, you know, this mental illness happened to her. So if she were mentally ill, how would you react to that? You wouldn't cut off ties with her. You would be really supportive in every way you could be. You don't have to be supportive of her politics, but just be supportive of her as an individual and provide the love and caring, and don't wait for her to get it, because she's probably not going to get it. There's not going to be anything that's going to happen that's going to change her mind. Even when he goes down, she's still probably going to feel the same way. So don't like, let go of that if you can, and work on letting go of that. Like, that's a good

• 1:09:26Speaker 00

  kind of mantra for you to like, say, let go of that. Don't hold on to this hope. I, I have those feelings all the time about like, these people, what are these people going to do when, when the emperor has no clothes? Obviously, he has no clothes. We're watching it happen in real time. It's, they're never going to get it. They're never going to say we were wrong. I mean, some people will, but most people are not going to say it. You know what I mean?

• 1:09:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:48Speaker 00

  I get, I get that you're principled, and I get that it's making you sick. It makes anyone who doesn't feel that way sick. You know, we're all dealing with this in our lives. But just focus on her being your mother, and just think of her as, as really sick.

• 1:10:00Speaker 04

  So, because initially, my impulse was to write, you know, a very educational letter and cite sources and give her the information about how these migrants are being treated, and just provide lots of evidence that maybe I could change her mind. But I think what you're saying is it's, it's not worth it. There's nothing I can, or anyone can say at this point.

• 1:10:22Speaker 00

  No. What Trump has tapped into is like, a different part of the brain than logic and reasoning.

• 1:10:27Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:10:28Speaker 00

  It's fair, it's something totally else. It's like your amygdala. It's your fear component. That's it. Everyone's like, working off of fear. But just divorce yourself from the idea that she's going to ever get it. Don't waste your time. It's, your time is probably better spent doing other things, like showing up for the people in your life that do feel the same way you do, and like, doubling down on love and kindness for strangers, and the people who are being affected by these terrible policies. That's what I try to focus on when I get really angry, is like, okay, flip that anger into positivity. So I think, you know, I think you're going to be good, and you're going to be happier if you just make nice with her and make peace with her. Because it sounds-

• 1:11:10Speaker 04

  And you think, just pick up the phone, say, hey, Mom, I regret losing my temper. I've been thinking about this for several months. And I do think I've made a mistake. And I would like to just, moving forward, not talk about politics. Let's just focus on family and resume our relationship, something like to that effect.

• 1:11:29Speaker 02

  I don't even know if you need to say that you made a mistake. I think you just say, I love you and I miss you.

• 1:11:35Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:11:35Speaker 02

  And can we just resume our relationship?

• 1:11:38Speaker 00

  I love you, I miss you.

• 1:11:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:39Speaker 00

  Be sweet and be funny, if you can.

• 1:11:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:42Speaker 00

  Be like, I love you, I missed you. And like, you know, I don't know what your relationship is like, but be cute and short. I don't think you even get into the political stuff right now.

• 1:11:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:52Speaker 00

  If it comes up again, just say, hey, you know what? We don't agree on this. And like, I'm really focused on, I just want to spend as much quality time with you as possible. So let's talk about the kids, or what's going on with you and your life. You know, that's not political. When, when the situation presents itself, then you can say something.

• 1:12:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:11Speaker 00

  But not prematurely. I don't want you to reactivate that. I think you just go in with love, and that's hard to deny.

• 1:12:18Speaker 02

  I think that's smart.

• 1:12:19Speaker 04

  Okay. This helps so much. You don't even know how much sleep I've been losing.

• 1:12:23Speaker 02

  I'm sure. It's horrible.

• 1:12:25Speaker 04

  So I, I really appreciate you. You know, Chelsea, you're so wise. I just, I thank you. And Adam's gone, oh, my gosh, I can't believe I'm talking to you. Anyway, but thank you so much. I'll let you get to your next caller. Thank you.

• 1:12:37Speaker 00

  Thank you, Jeannie.

• 1:12:38Speaker 02

  Nice to meet you.

• 1:12:38Speaker 00

  Follow up with us, okay?

• 1:12:39Speaker 04

  Okay. I will.

• 1:12:41Speaker 00

  All right.

• 1:12:41Speaker 04

  Bye.

• 1:12:42Speaker 00

  Bye. Thank you. Oh, we really helped her.

• 1:12:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:12:44Speaker 02

  You know, I feel like-

• 1:12:45Speaker 00

  That was sweet.

• 1:12:46Speaker 02

  It all comes down to, I think, the number one hat trick of Trump's is that, and it's fundamental, that he turned the truth into a political position. He's convinced everyone that the truth is a far-left, radical, political position. So when presented, like, if she wrote up a bunch of evidence, like, she said to you, it's just going to be seen as propaganda.

• 1:13:15Speaker 00

  Yes, exactly.

• 1:13:16Speaker 02

  And, you know?

• 1:13:16Speaker 00

  Right. Right. But it's nice when, when people are really, not when they're tormented, but when you can really actually help them, you know, like, come to a, because all you really need is an outsider perspective, I believe, with any situation. You need someone who's not involved in your life to kind of give you some feedback.

• 1:13:34Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 1:13:34Speaker 00

  Because no one else, you know, no one's going to steer you wrong unless you're completely a malevolent person, trying, trying to ruin people's lives.

• 1:13:43Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 1:13:44Speaker 00

  Okay, Adam, I love talking to you. I'm so glad you're here.

• 1:13:47Speaker 02

  Me, too.

• 1:13:48Speaker 00

  Oh, I got your DM. You asked me, that you were like, I'd sent you a video.

• 1:13:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, it didn't play. I couldn't, I didn't see what it said.

• 1:13:55Speaker 00

  I didn't even know I sent you a video. So that was news to me. It was probably telling you how great you were in Severance or something. I do a lot of video messaging, because I feel like I like to bring that back. I feel like we've lost the art of that. But you guys can see Adam right here on Netflix. You can watch The Whisper Man with De Niro. And another one of my favorites, Michelle Monaghan, is in it as well. And Adam plays De Niro's son in this movie.

• 1:14:17Speaker 02

  And Michael Keaton's in it, too.

• 1:14:18Speaker 00

  And Michael Keaton, oh, I didn't want to give that away. I thought that was a giveaway.

• 1:14:22Speaker 02

  Is that a secret?

• 1:14:22Speaker 00

  Well, is it? I don't know. I am TV. Oh, it is. Okay. Well, Michael Keaton's in the movie, too. Okay, there you go.

• 1:14:29Speaker 02

  I'm just so glad, Chelsea, because we've run into each other a bunch over the years. And you're always so kind and so cool and funny. And I'm a fan of your, yours regardless. So I'm glad we finally got to like, sit down and, and chat. It was really great.

• 1:14:47Speaker 00

  Likewise. I feel the same way about you. Thank you.

• 1:14:49Speaker 02

  Thanks.

• 1:14:49Speaker 00

  Thanks, Adam.

• 1:14:51Speaker 01

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