Looking for analog hobbies? Try writing a letter

Unlike texting and email, old-fashioned letters, hand-addressed and sent in the mail, are "read intentionally," says Rachel Syme of The New Yorker. In her book, Syme's Letter Writer, Syme offers advice on what to write about, how to find the perfect stationery, and why we should communicate more through snail mail. This episode originally published April 15, 2025. Follow us on Instagram: @nprlifekit https://www.instagram.com/nprlifekit/?hl=en Sign up for our newsletter here. https://www.npr.org/newsletter/life-kit Have an episode idea or feedback you want to share? Email us at [email protected] mailto:[email protected] Support the show and listen to it sponsor-free by signing up for Life Kit+ at plus.npr.org/lifekit http://plus.npr.org/lifekit See pcm.adswizz.com https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy

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• 0:24Marielle Segarra?

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• 0:30Marielle Segarra?

  Hey, everybody. It's Marielle.

• 0:34Marielle Segarra?

  There is a scene in the Jane Austen novel Pride and Prejudice where the main character, Lizzie Bennet, receives a letter from her will-they-won't-they, hate-you-love-you, sexy-crush-man Mr. Darcy. He actually hands it to her in person. It's really dramatic. And oof, when I tell you the anticipation I felt as she opened the envelope, the way I got butterflies in my stomach the first time I read this letter, I felt like I was her. That obviously says a lot about the immersive magic of a good book, but also about the potency of a well-written letter. The drama, the intrigue, the focused attention that it drums up in the recipient. Rachel Syme and I are kindred spirits in this way.

• 1:17Speaker 00

  I loved reading novels that turned on a letter. I loved watching You've Got Mail and The Shop Around the Corner and all these films about correspondence and reading Jane Austen novels. I just loved the idea of letter writing.

• 1:34Marielle Segarra?

  Rachel is a writer for The New Yorke, and she published a beautiful book called Syme's Letter Writer. It is a guide for how to get into letter writing. And she says there are a lot of reasons to go down this rabbit hole.

• 1:46Speaker 00

  I think the first one that is really simple and kind of broad is just that it's enjoyable, that it's fun, that it is a way to spend your

• 1:56Speaker 02

  And spend your time that actually has tangible results attached to it. And that you're building something with someone else. You're building a relationship. You're building an archive. You're building a body of work. Not a lot of people can say that about something they do. That's just to pass the time.

• 2:13Marielle Segarra?

  It's also a way to stay in the practice of writing. And it can help you form and nurture relationships that are unlike any others in your life.

• 2:20Speaker 02

  Because they are sort of divorced from time and expectation in a way that pretty much no other relationships are. Like my friends, I'm in group chats with them, texts with them. They're constantly available. I'm constantly available. We're pinging each other all the time. I'm calling my family all the time. I'm checking in all the time with work people. The thing about the people that I write letters to is that, I mean, it's like the slow cooker of friendship, you know? I'll write a letter to them. Maybe it'll arrive at their house, you know, given the vagaries of the postal system. In two weeks, they'll read it and I know that it will be read intentionally.

• 3:01Speaker 02

  And I have found that to be such a delightful rhythm when it is sort of contrasted against everything else that's bombarding us.

• 3:13Marielle Segarra?

  Rachel is uniquely qualified to teach us about the pleasures of letter writing. Because a few years ago, during the pandemic, she was looking for a way to spend less time on screens and more time connecting with people. So she went on social media, I know, ironic, and said, basically, does anyone want to be my pen pal?

• 3:31Speaker 02

  I got like 300 responses and I realized, oh, my gosh, I can't possibly write a letter to all these people. But there's some kind of need here or desire. So I have to find a way to connect all these people to one another so they can get writing to each other.

• 3:44Marielle Segarra?

  Rachel started a program called Penpalooza, which now has 10,000 members from more than 75 countries. And she met some of her best friends this way. So today on Life Kit, how to write letters to your friends, your family, that person who changed your life, your lovers, and even strangers. We'll give you some writing prompts, talk about stationery and embellishments, and how to use this practice as a creative opportunity.

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• 5:26Marielle Segarra?

  OK, well, let's say, let's say I'm curious.

• 5:29Speaker 02

  Yep, you're letter curious.

• 5:31Marielle Segarra?

  I'm letter curious.

• 5:31Speaker 02

  Correspondence curious.

• 5:33Marielle Segarra?

  I'm thinking about sending my first letter.

• 5:35Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 5:36Marielle Segarra?

  What language do you use when you are trying to, I'm not even going to say level up, I'm going to say, go down this other avenue with a friend, and you want to start writing letters to them? What do you actually say?

• 5:48Speaker 02

  I mean, in the, in this day and age, I think you have to sort of couch it in a little bit of like a silliness. So you have to say something along the lines of, I just got the most beautiful stationery, and I've been dying to use it, and write a letter to somebody. Would it, would it be interesting to you if I wrote to you? Or, you know, say, I'm interested in writing more. I'm trying to get more intentional about my writing. I think one way to really sell it to people is say, I'm trying to get off the internet. I'm trying to do less. Being on my Instagram at 2:00 in the morning and instead hanging out with my fountain pen and do more sort of purposeful, slow communication with the people that I care about.

• 6:30Speaker 02

  I'm making an active effort to do it, and I would love you to be a recipient of this attention.

• 6:35Marielle Segarra?

  You can also write to strangers, right? How might you find strangers to write to?

• 6:39Speaker 02

  So, social media is probably, I mean, I hate to say, "go there" because I'm trying to tell everybody to get off of there in order to write letters, but I think to find somebody to write a letter to, it's a great place. If there's anyone that's sort of like you're mutual on Instagram, or, you know, that you've been following for a while and they've been following you, you can always try to write them, you know, a direct message and say like, "Hey, I'd love to write you a letter. I'm doing, again, I'm doing this thing, right? Beautiful stationery and I'm trying to write letters to people." You'd be surprised how far that, that sort of approach will take you. There's also, you know, other pen pal exchanges online that you can find.

• 7:19Speaker 02

  There, there is a great site that's been around since, I think, the 90s called Postcrossing, which I love, which is, allows you to send postcards to anyone in the world. And you can, you know, you'll get a bunch of people to send postcards to, but you can always include your return address and say like, "I'd love to keep this exchange going." I often, yeah, there's, there's great websites where you can write letters to prisoners. You can write letters to, you know, you could do, join a mentorship program where you're, you know, if you're an older woman writer, there are younger women who want to become writers and need mentors, and often those relationships are based in correspondence or in epistolary communication. I feel like it's kind of like a law of attraction thing. It's like, once I started writing letters, I found a lot more people to write letters

• 8:04Speaker 02

  to. It just became so, like, part of my life.

• 8:10Marielle Segarra?

  Okay, takeaway one. If you want to receive letters, start writing letters. You can reach out to friends and family, ask if anyone's interested in getting a letter from you. You could also send a letter to someone who made a difference in your life, your third grade teacher, or that person who showed you kindness in a moment you really needed it. And if you want to write to strangers, there are programs you can sign up for. Or you could send some fan mail. Rachel talks about that in the book, too. Write to an author. Tell them how a certain passage in their book has woven its way into your soul, how you felt alone in the world until someone else put your exact feeling into words. That kind of thing means a lot to people.

• 8:51Marielle Segarra?

  Okay, let's move into the very tactile part of this. Choosing your paper.

• 8:56Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 8:57Marielle Segarra?

  How?

• 8:57Speaker 02

  Very personal.

• 8:58Marielle Segarra?

  Yeah. How do you start to decide? First of all, like, are you handwriting, or using a typewriter, or even printing off the computer? And then what paper are you gonna use?

• 9:08Speaker 02

  Well, I think you should do whatever you want. It's a free for all, really. But I write my letters by hand, for the most part, though I have purple tunnel now from doing such a thing.

• 9:21Marielle Segarra?

  I imagine.

• 9:22Speaker 02

  And I mean, I have a really beautiful fountain pen that I use that's very smooth writer and doesn't require much of my wrist strength. But whatever way you choose to actually get the words on the page, totally up to you. If you do want to go down the rabbit hole of handwriting and pens and fountain pens and calligraphy and ballpoint pens and, you know, going to the pen store and going nuts, I mean, you can go so far down that rabbit hole. It's endless and very addictive. In terms of paper, I mean, again, so personal. I have sort of so many different types of stationery at this point that I change my mind every single day. Sometimes it's... You know, a beautiful piece of Florentine stationery.

• 10:07Speaker 02

  Some days it's a note card, some days it's a postcard, some days it's vintage hotel stationery, some days it's onion skin paper, because I love the way that that feels. Some days it's this pink notepads that I write on because I learned that Jacqueline Suzanne, who wrote Value the Dolls, always wrote on pink notepads. And for some reason, I just like had an instant craving for pink note, like legal paper, and then ordered like 100 of them. A lot of people I know, you know, collage their letters, do watercolor, sort of create their own stationery. I mean, I have people who I know who have personalized letterhead. I have other people that will write on found paper, napkins, the back of other things, you know, recycled other printouts from work. It really is so open that there are no rules.

• 10:51Marielle Segarra?

  Mm-hmm. I'm opening up to the page where you give writing prompts.

• 10:57Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 10:58Marielle Segarra?

  Because I think it could be hard if you're just writing a letter for the first time, unless it's to congratulate someone on something or whatever, or thank them, to know what to say, like if...

• 11:07Speaker 02

  Right. This whole book is one big writing prompt, is how I saw it, basically.

• 11:10Marielle Segarra?

  Yeah.

• 11:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:12Marielle Segarra?

  And then, but then specifically, you have some that I like. I'm just gonna read a few of them.

• 11:18Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 11:19Marielle Segarra?

  "Write a series of letters while sitting on public benches at the park. Describe the people who walk past. Inside a museum, describe the art you see while sitting down. Outside a coffee shop, describe the dogs that trot by." It's, I mean, it sounds like description is a great way to go, like...

• 11:35Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, I think that literally, if you don't know what to write about, write about what you did that day. I mean, I think I start the book with a section that's called "How to Write About the Weather," because a lot of people begin their letters with what's going on in the weather, and they apologize for it. They go like, "I'm so sorry, like, I'm boring you because I'm talking about how it snowed today." And my contention is that there's, there's like, can be a great thrill in writing about the seasons and the weather and detail and sensual experience and the way you move through the world, and a lot of people don't do that.

• 12:12Marielle Segarra?

  "Write a detailed account of the last time you got food poisoning. Do you know what the culprit was? Did you have that sinking feeling that eating three-day-old shrimp was a terrible idea? Go into the gory timeline."

• 12:25Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. It's very generative. Everybody remembers, and they... They will never eat that thing again, whatever it was.

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• 13:36Marielle Segarra?

  You do have a section in here about how to write a love letter. And that is something that often involves imagination. As you note, like, if you were here, I would do this to you. That's like a pretty classic formula for sexting.

• 13:49Speaker 02

  Steamy.

• 13:50Marielle Segarra?

  So with love letters, any particular tips you want to share?

• 13:56Speaker 02

  I think that, you know, a love letter, first of all, you can write a love letter to anyone in your life, not just somebody that you're in a romantic relationship with. I think what it has to be about is an act of noticing, an act of sharing certain, specific details about the person. I think that the most well-received love letters and the ones that really stick with people are just memories and specifics and a sense of what you really, the small details about this person that you've noticed that only somebody that loves them would notice.

• 14:36Speaker 02

  And cataloging those, often love letters contain poetry. Often they'll contain waxing about your future, or what you hope that will look like. And sometimes it's about the past. It's Odeck. You have to think of yourself as a poet a little bit. Like, what am I singing a song of about this person? And sometimes it can be like the smallest things that you notice. You know? It can be like a freckle. It can be a day that you were together and they said something and it's always stuck with you. And you can, again, write these kinds of letters to anyone in your life that has had great meaning.

• 15:12Marielle Segarra?

  That's beautiful.

• 15:13Speaker 02

  Oh, thanks.

• 15:19Marielle Segarra?

  Takeaway two, get so creative with this. A letter can be about anything you want. Some more prompts from the book. Make your own Mad Libs. Take Polaroids of your life for a week and drop them in an envelope with a message on the back of each one. And draw a map of a stroll you often take through your neighborhood with pinpoints and descriptions of your favorite memories at each spot.

• 15:46Marielle Segarra?

  Okay, you also have an idea in here to mail recipes.

• 15:49Speaker 02

  Love mailing recipes.

• 15:51Marielle Segarra?

  Yeah, what is so magical about that?

• 15:53Speaker 02

  I think it's like we're going back to this sort of hand honed tradition, a thing that was passed down through generations. As much as I love, like, I love recipe books, I love family recipe books. So if you have your own recipes that you can pass along, I think of letters in many ways as creating an archive. And what's funny is like, you can't really see the archive you're creating unless you get together with the person you wrote letters to and said like, let's pair our letters and they'll be in one archive forever. Although, in the book, I encourage people to take pictures of the letters you're sending so you have copies of what you've done in case you ever want your side of the correspondence. But you are creating an archive of your work out there somewhere in the world.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  And I think recipes are the product of, you know, trial, error, generational secrets passed down. And so sending it along to somebody else, it's like very intimate, too.

• 16:45Marielle Segarra?

  Okay, let's talk about embellishments.

• 16:47Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 16:48Marielle Segarra?

  We want to give our letter a little pizzazz.

• 16:50Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 16:50Marielle Segarra?

  What would you say are the do's and don'ts here?

• 16:53Speaker 02

  I think that letters are one of these places where you can really express unbridled creativity. I mean, in terms of like, what we'll actually get through the postal system, I mean, there's a lot of sort of, if you glue a bunch of stuff on googly eyes and, you know, it won't make it, at least through the traditional mail system. So there's, you know, flat things you can mail, ways you can embellish with collage and stickers, and how to make mail art. I mean, I'm obsessed with mail art. Mail art was kind of an art movement that really had a sort of a heyday in the 60s and 70s, which was where a lot of artists were actually expressing themselves by making really ornate envelopes and seeing what they could move through the mail system. But it's still going strong. There's TikToks devoted to it. There's Instagrams. There's tutorials on YouTube devoted to mail art.

• 17:39Speaker 02

  How to make something look really beautiful, ornate. Lots of interesting sort of origami-type envelope folds. Lots of ways you can sort of add ephemera to both the outside and the inside of your envelope. I mean, I think letters are a great opportunity to mail anything flat that excites you.

• 18:04Marielle Segarra?

  Takeaway three: embellish the heck out of this thing. You gotta put some stickers in there. And then include some tiny, flat treasures, like pre-wrapped tea bags, ticket stubs, ornate wine labels, vintage photographs, iron-on patches, and dried flowers. Just make sure your recipient isn't allergic first. So if you get into writing letters, I could see that things might just fade away sometimes. Like, you might fall out of the habit, or maybe somebody stops answering you back.

• 18:36Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 18:36Marielle Segarra?

  Or like, what are some of the common letter-writing or like, correspondence snags that people hit?

• 18:45Speaker 02

  Well, I think people become quickly overwhelmed because it's not something that they're used to, right? So it seems really novel and fun when you first get a letter, and then you go, oh my god, I have to reply to this. It's a muscle like any other thing that can be worked out. But, you know, so I think that, that I think starting small is really, really good and really healthy. I think that if you don't feel prepared to write a big, long letter to somebody, send a postcard. I also think that a short letter is better than no letter, in so much as you might think, oh, gosh, if I don't have the time to respond to this in such a major way, I'm going to be doing this person a disservice. But the truth is, they just want to keep the volley in the air. And so often, if somebody sends me a really long letter and I don't have the bandwidth,

• 19:28Speaker 02

  I'll send a postcard, or I'll send an interim kind of short letter being like, loved your letter. It moved me. I'm gonna get back to you soon. But in the meantime, here's a silly, you know, vintage hotel thing. So there's, I think you can hit snags of being so overwhelmed that you just stop. And I think maybe the idea is just to keep the ball in the air is really useful. I think also just sometimes correspondences run their course. I think that I have several people that I started writing to at the beginning of this project, for example, that I'm still writing to. But some people have fallen away, or some people, our relationship has changed. It started as an epistolary friendship, and then we got really close writing letters and then started texting and calling, and that's more of our friendship now than letters. And we constantly say, like, we gotta get back to writing letters, you know?

• 20:13Speaker 02

  But I think they can change. And honestly, if something like this fizzles out, it's okay. It's okay. I think in general, you should practice kind of like radical kindness in this letter-writing game, because the truth is, it's really, it's a hobby. It's something that people should be doing for fun, for connection, for delight. If it's not delighting you, then why do it?

• 20:38Marielle Segarra?

  Okay, so takeaway four, be gentle with yourself and other people. Letter writing is a hobby, after all, and it should be something you're both enjoying. If not, let this correspondence fizzle. Pair up with somebody else. You know, there are about 8 billion people in the world.

• 21:00Marielle Segarra?

  Okay, you have a page in the book about signature sign-offs.

• 21:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:06Marielle Segarra?

  My favorite, from Zora Neale Hurston, in a letter to, is it Elaine Locke or Alan Locke?

• 21:13Speaker 02

  Ela. Allah.

• 21:15Marielle Segarra?

  Allah.

• 21:16Speaker 02

  I don't know, it's French. Forgive me, French speakers.

• 21:19Marielle Segarra?

  Okay, so in a letter from Zora Neale Hurston, she says, "So long, old cabbage."

• 21:26Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 21:26Marielle Segarra?

  I just freaking love that.

• 21:28Speaker 02

  I love that too. I mean, I think in France, you know, people call each other little cabbage monsieur or whatever, as a sort of like term of endearment. But yeah, I think it's cute. I think you should, everybody should come up with their own signature sign-off. I think that's a really, that's a great eccentricity to have.

• 21:44Marielle Segarra?

  Can you tell me yours?

• 21:46Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, I mean, I have different ones that I use for different people. Um, I'll often, I often call people kids, so I'll say, you know, "Until the next letter, kid."

• 21:57Marielle Segarra?

  Mm.

• 21:58Speaker 02

  "Write back, kid."

• 22:00Marielle Segarra?

  Even if they're older than you?

• 22:01Speaker 02

  I also say, "See you in the mailbox."

• 22:03Marielle Segarra?

  "See you in the mailbox."

• 22:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:05Marielle Segarra?

  That's cute.

• 22:06Speaker 02

  It's cute. Love to be cute.

• 22:12Marielle Segarra?

  Okay, our final takeaway is, come up with a signature sign-off, one that is uniquely and unmistakably yours. Here are some that I'm workshopping. "So long, sweet pea." "Bye-bye, cutie pie." "See you in my dreams, darlin'." "Catch you on the astral plane." "Et à ce l'oeu, wapo." Okay, Rachel, thank you so much.

• 22:34Speaker 02

  Thank you. I hope people write letters and find joy in this practice.

• 22:39Marielle Segarra?

  Okay, letter writers, it is time for a recap. Takeaway one, if you want to get letters, start writing letters. Reach out to friends and family, to old acquaintances, and even to strangers. Takeaway two, if you don't know what to say, start with a writing prompt. We've shared some here, and you can find more in Rachel's book and also online. Takeaway three, embellish. Give that letter some pizzazz. Takeaway four, letter writing is a hobby. Do not turn it into work. Have fun with it, and go with the flow. And takeaway five, come up with a signature sign-off to rival Zora Neale Hurston's very cheeky, "So long, old cabbage."

• 23:18Marielle Segarra?

  Okay, that's our show. Before we go, I have a question. Would you mind rating and reviewing Life Kit in your podcast app? You could tell us a favorite tip that you've learned, or you could tell us about what kinds of episodes you like the best. We love hearing from you, and it would help us out a lot. This episode of Life Kit was produced by Sam Yellowhorse Kessler. Our digital editor is Malika Garib, and our visuals editor is CJ Rukalon. Megan Kane is our senior supervising editor, and Beth Donovan is our executive producer. Our production team also includes Andy Tagel, Claire Marie Schneider, Sylvie Douglas, and Mika Ellison. Engineering support comes from Becky Brown. I'm Marielle Segarra. Thanks for listening.

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