“Mixtape” (w/ Slayyyter)

We wanna [talk to] Slayyyter, Richard we should link later! Or now! The Worst Girl in America gives us a Best Episode in the World. Topics include Tumblr, Beyoncé, St. Louis, iPod culture, and of course the iconic mixtape. IDTSH’s on spelling, non-magnetic fridges, air fryers. CRANK IT. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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  Where?

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  Oh, I see. Wow. Why? Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes.

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  Oh, my goodness.

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  Wow. Los Culturistas.

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  Ding dong, Los Culturistas calling. We are excited today because we can break news to the guest.

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  Unless, oh no, there's no way she already knows.

• 2:06Speaker 01

  No, she doesn't know. Because the Culture Awards haven't aired yet when we're recording this, but by now they've recorded, so you know, but our guest doesn't know.

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  But our guest doesn't know. Our guest was nominated for Album of the Year, Worst Girl in America, the album that's out now, that you are celebrating in the streets, and in the gutters, and on the rooftops of-

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  Wherever you are.

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  Wherever you are. Worst Girl in America is this year's Los Culturistas Culture Award Album of the Year winner.

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  Two nominations in the category. They said there might be vote splitting, and no.

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  And no.

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  Worst Girl in America.

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  Because the other nominated nation-

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  The other one made me, I love-

• 2:48Speaker 02

  What's like, Harold's stuff's good, too. It was like, Trouble in Paris is really good.

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  But it was also, it was like, and the other stuff, and it's a good, like, segue to the other, to the other stuff.

• 2:56Speaker 01

  It's a great way in.

• 2:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's a great way in, and I love.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  Bowen Yang, you said, you specifically said you want to bring our guest in.

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  I do.

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  To great fanfare.

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  I do. Well, Worst Girl in America Tour, sold out.

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  Yeah.

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  S.O.D. Um, world.

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  Come on, world.

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  And, god, she's so cool. We caught her set at Coachella.

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  Yes.

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  Fucking 3:00 PM, the vibes are in the fucking gutter.

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  It's a, you gotta, it's a rush to get a, we saw Slater, 3:00 PM on Friday, we were like, okay, the girls are hitting the-

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  And it was, and-

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  Perfect.

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  It never came back up.

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  No.

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  I'm gonna say, and that, no, not-

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  Really?

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  The festival had a highlight early.

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  It was just like, you, like, man, you kicked it off.

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  Thank you, guys.

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  We'll get into this. Um, and she, well, she's a goody-two-shoes. She-

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  Real, real follower.

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  Real follower. She's never done drugs in her life.

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  Never.

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  That's a quote from, I love Hollywood.

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  And I still haven't.

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  And you still haven't. Good for you.

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  Do you have some? I'd love to try it right now.

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  Um, yeah.

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  On camera.

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  I think we can, we can figure out some drugs, right?

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  Exclusive.

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  Well, all that and more on this episode of Lost Coach. Please fucking welcome Slater. We're so excited you're here.

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  I'm so excited to be here. Thank you for having me. What an intro. Holy shit.

• 4:19Speaker 01

  The Album of the Year winner. Do you want to give a speech?

• 4:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, give a speech.

• 4:22Speaker 04

  Oh, my gosh. I would like to thank you guys for bestowing this honor on me.

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  Consider it bestowed.

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  I would like to thank your academy.

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  Yes, it's us.

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  It's us.

• 4:31Speaker 04

  I would like to thank all my friends and producers, and I also, you know, shout out to being double nominated for my other stuff that's a great way in.

• 4:39Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 4:40Speaker 04

  Too, and the older things, and yeah.

• 4:41Speaker 02

  And the older things. Wait, how, how much of the older things are you playing in the, in the sets lately?

• 4:47Speaker 04

  None.

• 4:47Speaker 01

  None. Because Worst, Worst Girl is a story.

• 4:50Speaker 02

  I feel like a lot of artists are doing that, where they just want the unit of the, of the work to live on its own.

• 4:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 4:57Speaker 02

  I mean, if there's, if there's like porous places for like the old stuff to come in, then great.

• 5:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 5:02Speaker 02

  But like, god, that's, that's such a fucking good story. Like, that album, start to finish, for it to end on Brittany Murphy is just like, whoa, like, the, the statement is so clear. And like, it's interesting, I was reading The Boiler. Thank you, thank your people and your team for sending us The Boiler.

• 5:20Speaker 01

  Mm.

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  Because there was one line in it that really struck me, and I'm sure you agree with this, because you had to approve, but it was like, after being like wrongly categorized as like a hyperpop girl, and like, I don't know, like, I, I think, and there were, there were other sort of labels that like, would have been attributed to you in the past, but now it's like, no, no, no, like, I'm not these things, and the authentic thing is actually like, the iPod from my teenage years.

• 5:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 5:50Speaker 02

  Like, culture from the internet, like, like, that was the, like, you agree with that?

• 5:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, I never understood, I feel like I was never in that scene, and that like, kind of internet microtrend genre terminology was like, kind of, which I understand, I feel like my visuals were very bright, and it was very like, you know, glitchy-ish music.

• 6:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  But I just never, I never felt like I fit into that category, and I feel like even with this album, it might feel experimental, but I approached it from a very like traditional, like, I wanted to make like long songs, I wanted to do long, like, a long Soulwax intro that takes like a minute to like cook up, you know? And I think, I just never felt like hyperpop-ish. I just was like, I just feel like I'm an artist. I don't even like the word pop star, that like freaks me out.

• 6:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just feel like, well, because the thing about this album in particular is, it truly defies categorization because every genre is on it. And I also feel like, when something is called hyperpop, that makes it feel very specific, but this is like, it's so much going on, and your vocals are crazy.

• 6:54Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 6:55Speaker 01

  And I feel like there's, with the connotation with hyperpop, where there's like, um, it isn't right to call you that, because there's some idea that like the vocal isn't like present and forward in hyperpop, but your vocals are insane, like going from like screamo to like you and your kooey pop moment, like, I just, performing that live must be crazy, and I wonder how you like even train your muscles to do that.

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  It is, I kind, like, I just kind of hope and pray.

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  You gotta.

• 7:23Speaker 04

  I feel like-

• 7:24Speaker 01

  It's a warm-up and a prayer.

• 7:25Speaker 04

  No, I, I've been warming up a lot more than I ever have.

• 7:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:28Speaker 04

  And like, taking the vocal resting very seriously. I'm like, I love vocalists, I love like the art of singing, and people that like actually treat it like an athlete would treat their sport, you know what I mean? Like, it's, I, I really have read a lot about it. I've, I feel like I've tried to learn a lot about like what my voice can do, and this album was a lot about tapping into different like voices, or like screaming, but also hitting like operatic register.

• 7:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:55Speaker 04

  At the highest that I can, trying out different things, and so I feel like preparing for this tour, I'm just like, I'm gonna be silent like the whole time with like a dry erase board being like, help, help.

• 8:05Speaker 01

  But that's so chic, though.

• 8:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:06Speaker 01

  To carry around the dry erase board, just, this is what I need and want right now.

• 8:10Speaker 04

  But I, I'm, I'm so not like that, that I'm gonna feel like such an asshole. Also, I like talk a lot.

• 8:15Speaker 02

  Uh-huh. You're a gabbler.

• 8:17Speaker 04

  I am a chatty Cathy.

• 8:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 8:19Speaker 04

  So, should shut the fuck up for like a tour is like, I can't do it.

• 8:22Speaker 01

  It's unheard of.

• 8:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:23Speaker 02

  But like, it speaks to the, um, gosh, for me, I'm gonna say it's high school, because that's like iPod era.

• 8:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:33Speaker 02

  Down.

• 8:33Speaker 04

  Tumblr.

• 8:34Speaker 02

  Tumblr coded.

• 8:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:36Speaker 02

  And the first time someone vocal rested was, that I saw someone vocal rest was the lead of our school musical, and I was like, what is she doing?

• 8:44Speaker 04

  That's, okay, no offense, really extra in a high school musical to be like,

• 8:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:51Speaker 04

  Get out of here.

• 8:51Speaker 01

  You're playing Kim in Bye Bye Birdie Mama.

• 8:53Speaker 04

  Brenda, no.

• 8:54Speaker 01

  Brenda. Brenda.

• 8:55Speaker 02

  But isn't it perfect, though? Like, like, this is the shit that like, we, if you were a theater kid in high school, you would have, you would have done that. If you were cast as Dolly in Hello, Dolly, at the age of 15.

• 9:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:09Speaker 02

  I, I really, I could, it's so refreshing to have that framed as like, uh, have it framed as iPod music, or that old technology speaks to it because it's like, it's unalgor- it's unalgorithmized or whatever.

• 9:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:25Speaker 02

  It's, it's not, it is not trendy. It is a, this convocation of all these things.

• 9:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:33Speaker 02

  Like.

• 9:33Speaker 04

  It's just a Frankensteining of everything that I love and listen to, you know? On my, like, I feel like iPods, I really have a love for old technology, quite literally. I just, I hate convenience. That quote of convenience being a killer, I find it to be so true because everything has become so easy. Everything is at your disposal. Every genre of music, every song you've ever wanted to listen to, you can just Google it, pull it up, and like, it's there.

• 9:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:58Speaker 04

  And like with an iPod, you had to be so intentional. Sometimes it wouldn't even be all of my music. It'd be like, my sister's like, she would like download like, something from like, I don't know, Lil Wayne or like Lady Gaga Just Dance. She like downloaded that and that's when I heard that for the first time.

• 10:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:10Speaker 04

  And it would all be on your iPod and you'd go to school and you wouldn't have anything else clouding it. It would just be what was on that device.

• 10:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:17Speaker 04

  And I feel like that's what this album kind of feels like. It's just like, you can kind of listen to it all the way through. It's not really trying to be one thing. The writing is a little wacky. Like, it doesn't really feel like the, you know what I mean?

• 10:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

• 10:29Speaker 01

  Well, it's not like, it's like when the algorithm boils everything down to essentially a sound, because it hears you listening to it and enjoying it. Like, you can't look back at what you've listened to and, and be like, that's who I am. You know, like with an iPod playlist back in the day, I bet if anyone out there like went back to what they were putting together at like thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, off like fucking Kazaa, or like Napster even, or whatever, like, that's actually who you are. Like, the mix of like, I remember, I would download like some performances from like American Idol.

• 11:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, you'd have like YouTube rips.

• 11:04Speaker 01

  Yes, the YouTube rips. When I learned how to do that, it was over. Um, but then it would be like random, like, like Queen songs and like.

• 11:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, but oh my gosh, everyone had Bohemian Rhapsody on their iPod. Everyone.

• 11:17Speaker 02

  That song.

• 11:18Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 11:18Speaker 02

  And everyone learned the damn words. But like, I don't, I, do we think that it's more embarrassing to like look at, to have your algorithm stare back at you? Like, this, these are the songs you like? Or is it more embarrassing to like look through your old stuff on your iPod where it's like, oh god, like the soundtrack to like Annie is on this? Like, I don't know.

• 11:38Speaker 04

  It's not embarrassing though. I, I, no, I don't think that anything anyone likes, they should be like made to feel embarrassed by. Cause I had like Legally Blonde soundtrack on my, like the musical soundtrack.

• 11:50Speaker 01

  The best musical.

• 11:51Speaker 04

  Laura Boudin.

• 11:51Speaker 02

  Laura Boudin.

• 11:52Speaker 01

  Hello.

• 11:52Speaker 04

  I had like the MTV rip too. Remember when MTV like showed it?

• 11:55Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 11:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:56Speaker 02

  Gay or European, I was like, well, this is the funny thing.

• 12:00Speaker 04

  That is a funny fucking musical.

• 12:01Speaker 01

  We know him.

• 12:02Speaker 04

  What?

• 12:02Speaker 01

  We know Gay or European. His name is Matthew Rish and I actually lived in his apartment. No, literally, I sublet at his apartment. That's how small the like, faggotry world is. Like, we know the guy who was Gay or European.

• 12:16Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 12:17Speaker 02

  Like, what, like, like, cause I was then gonna ask, like, what are the most embarrassing songs? What were the most embarrassing songs on the iPod?

• 12:23Speaker 04

  I have no shame. Like, none of it embarrasses me, but like, I don't know. I'm like of the age where like, I loved, I had like Cheetah Girls on my iPod.

• 12:30Speaker 02

  Hell, yeah.

• 12:30Speaker 04

  And I still listen, I would still listen to like Hannah Montana and all of that now.

• 12:33Speaker 01

  Cheetah Girls, Cheetah Sisters. That's a sisterhood, that doesn't end.

• 12:36Speaker 04

  You have to start, like, you mean it.

• 12:37Speaker 01

  A hundred percent. Ashley Simpson just played, um, We Hope Pride, and I was like, wow, I bet Pete, that's gonna be packed. Because I remember when I was in high school, especially like, you know what I mean? Like, just because she was like, the Simpson sister that was a little fucked. Even though she wasn't actually punk, like people did buy it.

• 12:56Speaker 04

  She was like the one who'd smoke a cigarette.

• 12:57Speaker 01

  Exactly. Like, my hair's dark. It's a little in my face, just a little. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a badass. But like, that shit, I used to, that was on my iPod next to like, Patti LaBelle.

• 13:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 13:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 13:10Speaker 04

  But that's the beauty of the human experience. You can like whatever you want and there's no shame. People need to just like, like what they like. And like, and also like, read, like, read the room on things. I feel like everyone is so like wanting to be, I don't know, it's just too, like, like, no one should feel cringed out by what they like. Cause what you like is what you like. What's so wrong with that, you know?

• 13:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. But what is your experience with that transition though? Cause suddenly it's like, it's giving prestige, they're trying to say. And I'm, and people, people that have been here have been like, yes, she's brilliant. But the thing is, like, it, there is a moment happening now.

• 13:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 13:45Speaker 01

  Where you're, they are, they're trying to like gild you a little bit, you know what I mean?

• 13:49Speaker 04

  Yes. It is interesting. I, everything since Coachella has changed so crazy. That was like the specific moment where everything changed. And now it's very, it kind of went like, obviously I've been doing this for a while, but almost overnight, it went from kind of like, being like, the like opener for a lot of tours, or being like kind of someone that is like in this underground, like tanking, like, you know?

• 14:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 14:15Speaker 04

  All of a sudden, everyone's like, you're the girl.

• 14:17Speaker 01

  You're the girl.

• 14:19Speaker 04

  You're the girl now.

• 14:20Speaker 02

  Wow. You're like, fuck you. Like, I was the girl. I was here all along.

• 14:24Speaker 04

  No, I mean, that, I would never want to have that attitude, just because if this is the project that resonates with people.

• 14:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:30Speaker 04

  That's okay. I like it the most of my efforts.

• 14:33Speaker 02

  Great.

• 14:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:34Speaker 04

  So like, if they don't like my past stuff, like, that's fine. And also like, I don't know, sometimes people are just not tapped in. I feel like I like love finding like, underground artists and like smaller artists. Some people like, it takes a minute for like, they need something to pop for it to like, fall into their lap, you know?

• 14:49Speaker 02

  Totally. Yeah. Like what off of the singles before the album gave you that hint that this would be like the body of work?

• 14:57Speaker 04

  I honestly, I think Beat Up Chanel is like the very first single. The response for that, that was like the first song I was putting out with like, Records in Columbia. I was like, that was the first like video I did with them. I was like, this could go one or two ways. This is either gonna like be received well, or like we're getting D-worded, dropped like soon. So, but like, I don't know, I didn't want to think of it like that. But as soon as it came out, everyone was like, whoa, the sound, like, this is so weird. It's like so different and I haven't heard anything like it. And people responded to it really well and really loved the video and felt like nostalgia. Like, I just could tell that people were connecting with it in like a meaningful way.

• 15:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:33Speaker 04

  And, yeah.

• 15:33Speaker 02

  There's a rawness to it that like, I want these nice things, but I also want the stickiest weed.

• 15:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:41Speaker 02

  I want, I want a cigarette, rat, rat, rat, rat.

• 15:45Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 15:46Speaker 02

  And I want vintage Celine. Like, it's like.

• 15:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:49Speaker 02

  It doesn't fucking matter. I just want the things that I want.

• 15:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:54Speaker 02

  I don't know. Like, it, it, cause you're right, like.

• 15:56Speaker 04

  It has very Stone Missouri teenager that like, which I feel like I've been that, who doesn't really know anything about designer, what they're talking about, but they're like, I want like vintage Celine, man.

• 16:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:06Speaker 04

  And I want like, I want grills. Cause I used to say that. And then when I like, got into music and I like had, I like custom made like grills and I was like, this is so dumb. What am I doing?

• 16:16Speaker 02

  But it's like, but it's like, it's other St. Louis, St. Louis legend. Like, it's like, you're following in like Nelly's footsteps.

• 16:21Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. The hometown hero.

• 16:23Speaker 02

  Hometown hero. So like, I wanna say that St. Louis is like really popping the fuck off right now.

• 16:29Speaker 04

  I love to see it. My city.

• 16:30Speaker 02

  Do you feel that way?

• 16:30Speaker 04

  I do.

• 16:31Speaker 02

  Like you, Nikki Glaser, I wanna say like, Jon Hamm, Andy Cohen.

• 16:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:36Speaker 02

  Like, there's some real hitters.

• 16:38Speaker 04

  There's some real St. Louis royalties.

• 16:39Speaker 01

  St. Louis is, you know, we're gonna have to, we're gonna have to visit the arch. We're gonna have to visit the arch.

• 16:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:46Speaker 02

  Like, what is it, like, what's, what's Stone Missouri teen Slater giving? Besides stoned teen?

• 16:52Speaker 04

  I, I've said this a lot, but I was very Cookie Monster pajama pants girl.

• 16:57Speaker 01

  I almost wore my Cookie Monster shirt today.

• 16:59Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? Like, my hair would be like in one of these buns.

• 17:01Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 17:02Speaker 04

  And I would be like chewing, I would be like high. And I would like, I would, me and my, ah, I have like hair in my mouth, sorry. My friends would like drive around. And my friend group was like, me, another girl, and like two gay guys. And we would like listen to like art pop and smoke weed. And like, all the popular girls loved us cause like if they were fighting with their popular friends or their boyfriend, they'd be like, oh my god, they're gonna like, they're gonna like smoke me out. We can like, drive around and like listen to like Lana.

• 17:27Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 17:28Speaker 04

  And then they would like let us go to the parties, cause we'd like have the, you know?

• 17:31Speaker 02

  A hundred percent.

• 17:31Speaker 04

  We'd like, we'd steal liquor bottles and we'd have weed. So they'd be like, oh yeah, you guys can come.

• 17:34Speaker 01

  Provided a function.

• 17:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:36Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 17:37Speaker 04

  It was a very like, we all like helped each other out.

• 17:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. The ecosystem.

• 17:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, there was no hierarchy. We all like, we all had our checks and balances. We like, you know?

• 17:45Speaker 01

  In the political system that is high school.

• 17:47Speaker 02

  Yes. I, I mean, not that we even like have a sense of what high schools are like now, but it's like, there was this more like, everyone like coexisting back in the day.

• 17:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:56Speaker 02

  Like, I think it was like, yeah, there's, the hierarchies aren't there, cause it was like, I, god, you, I gotta imagine that being a kid now of social media age means that like, things are governed by like, numbers. You know what I mean?

• 18:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:09Speaker 02

  By like, by like follower counts and stuff.

• 18:11Speaker 01

  Well, you know what brought actually a lot of people in high school together actually was the iPod of it all. Like, the, the, like, I remember being on the bus to like cross country meets, and like someone would have made like, something to play on the, on the back of the bus. And it would just be like, you would find out that someone had this niche cool interest. Like, I remember at the time, like, I didn't really, in middle school, I didn't know Queen. Like, my parents didn't expose it to me. But then like seeing all these like kids I was on like a team with, know every single word already to every single song.

• 18:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:45Speaker 01

  You know, just that was an exposure. And I just wonder if there's enough like, I, I don't know, but wild cards in the playlist now, where people are like having that whiplash in terms of like the experience with each other.

• 18:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:59Speaker 01

  You know?

• 18:59Speaker 02

  Cause now what's going on is, we consume something, we watch something, and then like the immediate urge, whether it's like a movie or an album or a book, is to like see what other people think about it.

• 19:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:11Speaker 02

  Does that make sense?

• 19:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, I, I get, people do do that, but I so don't.

• 19:16Speaker 01

  No, you, you don't.

• 19:17Speaker 04

  I don't.

• 19:18Speaker 02

  But it's this, let me see, like, is this the right thing to like or hate?

• 19:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I hate that.

• 19:22Speaker 02

  And I feel like what I was asking you earlier about people using you now as this like index, is like, I literally pulled up a video, just a video that shows up on my algorithm the other day where it's about you, and it's this like scholarly person being like.

• 19:35Speaker 04

  Scholarly. Are they though?

• 19:37Speaker 02

  Who knows?

• 19:37Speaker 04

  People use big words and it's like, yeah.

• 19:40Speaker 01

  No, it's like, if you're bald and have a beard, you're, you must be like, uh, like, expert on pop music.

• 19:46Speaker 04

  You must be a doctor.

• 19:47Speaker 02

  You must be a doctor.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  It's just so wild. Like, some of these guys, they're like, here's what I really didn't like about Olivia Rodrigo was doing.

• 19:54Speaker 02

  If you have a neck beard, you must be a doctor.

• 19:56Speaker 04

  And there's, there's no sense in that song. What are you talking about?

• 19:58Speaker 02

  But it's one of these neck beards being like, so when Slater's talking about sucking him off in the elevator, she's really talking about this other thing. And I'm like, I think she's just talking about sucking him off in the elevator.

• 20:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think I, I think I meant what I said.

• 20:09Speaker 01

  Yeah. I think I meant what I said.

• 20:13Speaker 04

  I'm like, you know, in life, we're all sucking someone off in the elevator. Capitalism.

• 20:18Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 20:20Speaker 04

  No, I'm like, I meant what I said.

• 20:23Speaker 02

  Because I think that's because Crank has best lyric of the year to me.

• 20:28Speaker 04

  Thank you, Richard.

• 20:29Speaker 02

  Richard.

• 20:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:29Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 20:30Speaker 01

  We need to link later.

• 20:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, because my name is from like Dazed and Confused.

• 20:34Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 20:34Speaker 04

  Later, so it's like.

• 20:35Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 20:36Speaker 04

  There's like a lot, there's a lot going on in that line, you know?

• 20:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 20:39Speaker 04

  I love that movie.

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• 25:07Speaker 02

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• 25:59Speaker 04

  I do, but I, I think that no taste could be good or bad. Like, I feel like everyone just likes what they like. And like, when I see something that I don't like, or like, I see like visuals that I don't like, or I watch a movie that I don't like, someone probably loves it. And sometimes like that, someone is like my mom, like, I don't want to like be mean if she like loves.

• 26:16Speaker 01

  Hundred percent.

• 26:17Speaker 04

  She watches some shows that I think are really terrible and that's okay. She loves it. And I'm not better than her because I like.

• 26:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:23Speaker 04

  Have a cooler show that I watch.

• 26:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, I also think superiority is a very unattractive quality. Like, some people that just pop off and call things bad and stuff, like recently, like, you know, there's like, I feel like a lot of people are, like with Charli's new era, right? Like, people are very like, oh, this is different, this isn't Brat. And you even see her coming out and being like, hey, listen, a lot of you that like became fans of me during Brat, you may not like music, fashion, film. And that's fine, this is what I'm fucking doing, this is where I'm moving. But there is like, whenever I saw someone coming out and be like, rap music is a bad song. And I'm like, how fucking dare you, A? And B, that's like such a crazy nasty thing to stand behind and put out there. Like, you are now the face of superiority in this way.

• 27:10Speaker 01

  And I just, that would drive me nuts, like.

• 27:12Speaker 04

  People love to, you know, chatter on like anything.

• 27:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:15Speaker 04

  Sometimes it's interesting, though, I think, um, watching people kind of, like, watching people like love or hate something. Like, I feel like with my album, a lot of people, you know, there were some like, straight music bros who like loved it and then some that like hated it. And I was like, that's so interesting that like some of you like like it.

• 27:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:34Speaker 04

  And like, just like seeing people within my own like fanbase being like, oh, this wasn't for me. Like, I wish she was doing more like dance pop. And I'm like, that's fine, who knows, maybe I will one day. But I feel like people, I don't know, everyone, everyone has a correct opinion in their own head.

• 27:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:48Speaker 04

  But like, opinions aren't, like, it's your opinion.

• 27:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:51Speaker 04

  Doesn't mean it's like right or wrong always.

• 27:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:53Speaker 02

  Opinions don't have to be principled and we're, I think we're in a time when people's, people want to like back that up with like, the principled scholarly take, when it's like, you just don't like it and that's fine. Like, it's as simple as that.

• 28:05Speaker 04

  It's as simple as not liking it. Or maybe it's just not for you.

• 28:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:09Speaker 04

  There's certain things that just aren't for you, you know?

• 28:12Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 28:13Speaker 04

  Like, there's like artists that like make great music for who they make it for, but it's like, it's not for me.

• 28:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, yeah.

• 28:18Speaker 04

  It's okay.

• 28:19Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 28:19Speaker 04

  You know?

• 28:20Speaker 02

  People should understand that your tastes, which is, I'm trying to like give you this like, really dick-sucky compliment, but it's like, the first time I met you was you were dressed as Hollywood from Cool World.

• 28:30Speaker 04

  Yes, love that.

• 28:32Speaker 02

  For a Halloween party, Ty Cundling's Halloween party. And then like, you have all these David Lynch references and you, you know your shit and like, I.

• 28:40Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 28:41Speaker 02

  But you don't, this is your thing, you don't brandish it. You just let people.

• 28:47Speaker 04

  Midwest, Midwest.

• 28:48Speaker 01

  Oh, is that where that is from?

• 28:49Speaker 04

  It's a bit western, also, I feel like we aren't like born knowing about cool stuff.

• 28:54Speaker 01

  No!

• 28:55Speaker 04

  Sometimes it takes a long time to like, watch movies, develop your taste, figure it, even figure out like what you want to wear. Like, when I think about like how I used to dress when I first started music, I like, don't like cringe necessarily, but it's something I wouldn't wear now. But I'm like, I was in my early twenties, I was like drunk every day, like, sure. Like, I looked a little crazy. But like, I think it just takes time for people, not everyone comes out of the gate being like, oh, yes, like this photographer and this, this like fashion house is great and this. I didn't, I'm from St. Louis, I didn't know what the fu, I didn't know any of that. Like, everything I consumed was through like the internet and through Tumblr and through different things. So, you know, it takes time to broaden your taste palate.

• 29:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 29:35Speaker 04

  And that's okay. So I feel like, I don't know, I do, I feel like I like cool things that I like, but I don't know, not everyone comes, like, I didn't know these things all the time.

• 29:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, I remember.

• 29:45Speaker 04

  I wasn't like in high school watching David Lynch movies.

• 29:47Speaker 01

  Hundred percent. Well, it's like, I was like seeing.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  I was re-watching your Coachella performance and I had recently read something where you had talked about, like, obviously, like, the big mass-market pop stars were Beyonce and Gaga growing up and that you watched, like, I Am World Tour and the Monster Ball, like, again and again and again. And I wanted to tell you, I see so much Beyonce in what you do.

• 30:12Speaker 04

  Really?

• 30:13Speaker 01

  Yes, there is a moment-

• 30:14Speaker 04

  Thank you, that's a crazy thing to say.

• 30:16Speaker 01

  Literally, even just like your hairstyling in it and like when you hold the mic and the way that you went down into a note, I was like, there is something very specifically Beyonce around, you know, around like the four era.

• 30:29Speaker 02

  And Sasha Fierce.

• 30:30Speaker 01

  And Sasha Fierce, but yes, but like, I was like, it was very, very, very, like, there was a tiny little movement that you did and it was, I can't explain it, you were clutching onto the mic and digging into a note and just the wind that was on you, I was like, this, Beyonce lives in this.

• 30:47Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 30:48Speaker 01

  In a real way.

• 30:49Speaker 04

  Thank you so much. She is like, maybe one of my greatest idols of all time. I feel like, growing up, that was, I would like, study, I would watch I Am World Tour DVD. And I'm not kidding you, if she, if she was like, oh, I'm gonna go do that exact tour in choreo again, I could be a backup dancer. I know every cue, I know every moment of the show, I know that, I know it all. I would dance on my coffee table.

• 31:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:11Speaker 04

  Braces.

• 31:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:13Speaker 04

  Family, family gone.

• 31:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:15Speaker 04

  Mother's heels, not cute ones, like TJ Maxx, a block heel. And I'd be like, dancing on the table. And I would do it, put your freakum dress on.

• 31:24Speaker 01

  Oh, freakum dresses. See, and I know you, you and so many people now have started to say the name B-Day. People are really letting everyone know that B-Day is a masterpiece.

• 31:38Speaker 04

  It really is.

• 31:39Speaker 01

  Justice for so many of those songs, namely, Ring the Alarm.

• 31:43Speaker 04

  I was just, oh my gosh.

• 31:44Speaker 01

  I know you love Ring the Alarm.

• 31:45Speaker 04

  I was just about to say, that song, even subconsciously, I don't think I even like, realized it, but like, when I hear like, Crank and Ring the Alarm, like the anger, that kind of bridled female, like, kind of rage.

• 31:57Speaker 02

  Screaming.

• 31:57Speaker 04

  Screaming, I love when Beyonce screams, "Don't hurt yourself."

• 32:00Speaker 01

  Oh, period. That's why I'm so excited for whatever Act 3 is, if it, if it looks like the rock album. We may even know by now, but like, just what she did in Don't Hurt Yourself, she's limitless.

• 32:10Speaker 04

  I know. Her and Jack White collabing, like, coolest thing ever.

• 32:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:14Speaker 04

  Of all time.

• 32:16Speaker 02

  I'm so glad you like, linked up with Crank. Have you heard, there's, someone did a remix of Crank and Heads Will Roll.

• 32:21Speaker 04

  Oh, I heard that.

• 32:22Speaker 02

  Fits perfectly.

• 32:23Speaker 04

  And, uh, the trolley from, Crank goes the trolley. Dang dang dang goes the bell.

• 32:30Speaker 01

  You and Judy feels right, too.

• 32:32Speaker 04

  I love Judy.

• 32:35Speaker 01

  We love Judy. Okay, so wait.

• 32:37Speaker 04

  I'm a big, like, I'm a Judy Garland, like, I'm like a freak, like, I love her.

• 32:40Speaker 01

  You can tell, though, I'm just saying, like, I feel-

• 32:42Speaker 04

  I'm a big old Hollywood's, like, you know, junkie.

• 32:45Speaker 01

  There's gonna be, I'm just excited because of, I feel like now people are gonna get to know you as really a vocalist, and especially, and I really feel, especially your performance on The Tonight Show. I was like, she is a singer singer. You really are. And I'm excited for any genre that you take on because,

• 33:07Speaker 04

  Thank you so much.

• 33:08Speaker 01

  It's one thing to be inspired by and influenced by these things, it's another to be able to execute it.

• 33:12Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 33:13Speaker 01

  And you got it. So, we should ask the question, because we're kind of floating around.

• 33:18Speaker 02

  Yes, because you've mentioned internet culture of your,

• 33:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 33:23Speaker 02

  of your youth. What was the culture that made you say culture is for you?

• 33:26Speaker 04

  Oh, Tumblr.

• 33:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:28Speaker 04

  I think, I've been on the internet since I was very young, but I think Tumblr felt like it was at its largest and most powerful when I was in high school, and that was very formative for my life.

• 33:43Speaker 04

  Also, interesting that, that era of the internet, artists would full-on like, break on Tumblr.

• 33:47Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 33:48Speaker 04

  You couldn't really imagine that happening now, but Lana Del Rey, like,

• 33:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:51Speaker 04

  kind of broke on Tumblr, you know what I mean? That's the first place that I saw her visuals or heard of her, and I just remember, that was kind of the first time that I entered an internet space and saw people making imagery that was meant to have like, that was meant to like, make you feel something.

• 34:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:09Speaker 04

  Um, curating like, blogs to like, have, you know, an aesthetic appeal, but it was more than just like, looking good, like, people would write like, blurbs about like, oh my gosh, I'm like, really suicidal today, blah blah blah, to like, strangers. I'm like, what an interesting time for the internet. People be so real and raw, everything is so, you know, even like, cool girl Instagrams are like, so curated now.

• 34:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:30Speaker 04

  People would just kind of like-

• 34:33Speaker 02

  It was anarchic.

• 34:34Speaker 04

  It was, it felt like performance online. And I feel like that was the first time I started to curate like, visual, I was very into like, you know, like, sea punk and like, the visual,

• 34:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:47Speaker 04

  like vapor wavy kind of, you know, I would like, curate my blog to have a certain color story and color palette, and I feel like it led me to like, love visual storytelling and, you know, I would be, I would be very particular about the gifs and images, it would not be like, funny shit, like, I would want it to look very cool and artistic and movie, like, movie scenes that I love and like, stills from things and like, you know, Lana Del Rey gif of her with the flag, like, I just was super particular about it. And I feel like that impacted me so much, and I still kind of have that brain of like, putting imagery together, you know?

• 35:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:18Speaker 02

  I think you're talking about like, directing.

• 35:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:21Speaker 02

  Like, I feel like it translates.

• 35:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't think I would be able to make the videos that I make, or make videos in the way I make them, without having been like, a Tumblr weirdo, you know? I'm very big on, with all of my music videos, there's like, a focus color, whether it's like, minty teal, or like, in dance, it was kind of like, lavender and red. Like, I always like to pick a color, and on my blog, I was the same way, I'd be like, if the previous photo was green, it needs to be something in the green world to like, carry it over. And we'll then get out of that into silver and then blue. And then like, a picture of like, dental equipment, like, weird, you know what I mean?

• 35:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:55Speaker 04

  You just like, link things into other things.

• 35:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then suddenly you look back and you're like, oh, I've, I'm, I, this is me.

• 36:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, I would back up from my like, old junk laptop and be like, my masterpiece. It's literally just a blog, girl.

• 36:10Speaker 01

  But no, like, because, because, like, was it ever studied? Like, did you like, read about color theory and shit?

• 36:15Speaker 04

  No, I would just kind of operate, I always loved art, though, like, I was like, I loved illustration and like, I loved art class, like, drawing, I used to like, draw a lot, I would make like, they were so ugly, I would make like, pen, like, really punk, they, they looked like something that would be at like, a millennial burger, like, like, this is like, the fuck, the fuckface burger joint. Like, I would make, it almost, no offense to like-

• 36:36Speaker 01

  Fuckface Burger Joint is title of that.

• 36:38Speaker 04

  No offense to like, Liquid Death, but like, my illustrations would look very like that logo, like, I would draw like, skulls in my notebook. I would want to make like, stickers for my skater friends, so I'd be very like, punk tattoo, like, really cringe, like, whatever. Not that, whatever, but like, I did like, pen illustrations, so I always loved art and like, visual, I love drawing.

• 36:54Speaker 01

  I feel like, I saw you talking to Nikki Reardon, who I love, too.

• 36:58Speaker 04

  Love.

• 36:58Speaker 01

  And, um, he mentioned that the dollar sign in the circle, like, the Slater logo, like, how you're kind of calling back to like, a Rolling Stones type logo, like, artists don't really have like, logos like that, insignias like that, and I feel like that must hearken back to

• 37:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:14Speaker 01

  those, like, visual identity and visual representation being like, really-

• 37:19Speaker 04

  You can put it, when you put like, a spin on something and, or like, make it your own, I think that that's like, an important piece of it, but also, I just find it interesting, like, like, I'm really into like, knockoff purses right now. Why would I go buy plastic for a thousand dollars when I can buy it for like, fifty bucks?

• 37:35Speaker 01

  Forty bucks on Canal.

• 37:37Speaker 04

  And it's so interesting how people will still buy the knockoff, just because they want the look of something with prestige, but they know that it doesn't have it, it's just, I don't know.

• 37:47Speaker 01

  There's something to be said about like, no, it, but it is like, I think it's cooler to know like, where you, I know where you went to go get it was cooler than the place where that is sold.

• 37:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, like, you, you like, got cash out of your like, pocket and like, haggled for your bag.

• 38:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:04Speaker 04

  And that's like, way more lit than like, walking into a store where like, some snob is like, um, it's like, really expensive in here, I don't know if you can like-

• 38:12Speaker 01

  Right, right, right, right, right.

• 38:13Speaker 04

  I'm, I get pretty women all the time.

• 38:15Speaker 01

  Do you?

• 38:16Speaker 04

  Bitches hate me.

• 38:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, have you gone to Big Mistake, huge then?

• 38:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, there was one really embarrassing moment, I had a really big, uh, blurb, or not blurb, but like, I had a fuck up, because I didn't know. But there was one year I was like, going to Fashion Week, it was like, one of my first like, fashion weeks and like, you know, so sad, like, fucking Cindy Lou Who, St. Louis, like, I was in front row, and I was like, I'm gonna go credit card charge a [BLEEP] bag, and then I'll return it after, because I can't afford that right now.

• 38:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:41Speaker 04

  But I have to have the bag, otherwise they're all gonna think I'm a loser. So I get the bag, and I take it to Fashion Week, I get like, wasted.

• 38:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:50Speaker 04

  And there's makeup in the bag, and like, I, I thought like, certainly like, a luxury purchase, like, I'll like, make sure that it's taken well care of and like, whatever. And it wasn't like, beat up or anything, like, it looked brand new to me, and I took it back to the [BLEEP] store, and I was like, hi, it just didn't work out, I'd like to return it. She takes one look inside the bag and she's like, um, you definitely wore this. And I was like, I was like, yeah, but like, I like, tried it, and then I didn't like it, I can like, return it, right? And she's like, no, if you wear it, you can't return it. It was such a, I wish, she was such a bitch.

• 39:20Speaker 01

  The performance you're doing of her, looking you up and down.

• 39:23Speaker 04

  And I was like, this is a three thousand dollar bag, I can't afford this right now. And I like, almost had a panic attack in the store, because like, I didn't know how cri- I'm just dumb, I don't know.

• 39:31Speaker 01

  Well, you don't know until you know.

• 39:33Speaker 04

  She was so mean to you, she was like,

• 39:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's like, makeup in it and like, there's like, creasing.

• 39:39Speaker 01

  There's makeup in it and creasing.

• 39:41Speaker 04

  I was like, well, I'll take it back then.

• 39:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:43Speaker 04

  And then like, you know, take it to whatever, Second Street, or whatever it's called.

• 39:46Speaker 02

  Remember the back, take it to Second Street.

• 39:47Speaker 01

  Second Street is everything, by the way.

• 39:50Speaker 02

  I love Second Street.

• 39:51Speaker 04

  I show them all the time, I love it. I've got a lot of music video pieces from like, there and Wasteland and like, all different places.

• 39:57Speaker 01

  My favorite, my favorite and first time in Second Street was actually when we were just in Tokyo.

• 40:01Speaker 02

  Yes, oh.

• 40:02Speaker 01

  Because Melissa, who I was telling you about, that like, is the vintage shopper extraordinaire who finds everything for me, was like, we have to go to Second Street, it's my favorite place ever.

• 40:10Speaker 04

  Ooh.

• 40:11Speaker 01

  And I-

• 40:11Speaker 04

  I love that, I would, her master list is probably crazy of like, places.

• 40:15Speaker 02

  She's a genius.

• 40:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, she's really good. And also, I just like, when someone asks where you got something, telling them some far-fetched place in the world, you know what I mean?

• 40:22Speaker 04

  From far, far away.

• 40:23Speaker 01

  I got this from like, a weird, a weird store, like, outside of Vegas.

• 40:28Speaker 02

  For like, five dollars.

• 40:29Speaker 01

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• 40:30Speaker 02

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• 40:30Speaker 01

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• 40:31Speaker 04

  I love that.

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  I'm also thinking about like when we talked about like, um, you know, just the, the dollar sign of it all. And, you know, that kind of representation, I, something popped in my head and it's relevant. It was like when I'm clueless, when Breckin Meyer goes to Brittany Murphy, like, oh, sick representation. Like the Marvin the Martian, I could zoom Marvin the Martian, that whole thing.

• 44:18Speaker 02

  Zoom Marvin the Martian.

• 44:18Speaker 01

  And just like your shout to Brittany.

• 44:20Speaker 04

  You guys got koki?

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  You guys got koki?

• 44:22Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 44:23Speaker 01

  This is America. Every line.

• 44:25Speaker 04

  You guys have never had straight friends?

• 44:29Speaker 01

  But, um, just the love that you give her. She's one of our favorites too. When we always say like, had she lived, I do think she would have had like a second and third wind in her career, where she would have just been so defining.

• 44:43Speaker 04

  She was an incredible actress.

• 44:45Speaker 01

  Amazing and effortless and signature.

• 44:47Speaker 04

  Like vocalist in a way that I don't think a lot of people even realize. It sounds so funny because it's a children's movie, but like the Happy Feet soundtrack.

• 44:55Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, she's singing.

• 44:56Speaker 04

  Are stunning.

• 44:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:58Speaker 04

  She did like a song with Paul Oakenfield and like she was just such a good singer. It's like a shame that she never got to make an album. There's like, I really, I love her so much. I have so much like love in my heart. Uptown Girls was a very important movie for me as a child. And then watching as an adult, it takes on a completely new meaning. It like really punches you in the gut, really devastating movie. But like, I just, I love her so much. And I think her life and that feeling, like I watched her, what happened to Brittany Murphy docu-series. Her life and like the feelings of like feeling like your career is kind of slowing down or like things are, people are turning on you and being like, why doesn't anyone, why am I not doing like studio movies anymore? Why this, why that? And like how that must have felt it like that is such a horrible thing.

• 45:42Speaker 04

  And it's just like, she was so talented and it just makes me, it's like the greatest tragedy, I think, in Hollywood, genuinely.

• 45:49Speaker 01

  I would agree. I think especially in the era where TV really popped off, I think she would have gotten a Handmaid's Tale type show to really show what she could do because you're right.

• 45:58Speaker 04

  She was funny, she could do serious. She was just like, I don't know, she had so much charm, so much aura.

• 46:03Speaker 01

  Natural charisma, star qualities, like the way she laughs, no one can ever replicate that. I mean, there was just, and also the darkness that she, that she waded into. I mean, Girl Interrupted.

• 46:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:16Speaker 01

  People talk about Angelina because she won the Oscar and obviously Winona. But Brittany Murphy, what she brought to that was, that must've been hard to sit in the entire time shooting that movie because it's just mental anguish and pain and suffering.

• 46:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, her characters fade and that movie is like, almost like the one that makes you the most sick.

• 46:36Speaker 01

  Absolutely, absolutely.

• 46:38Speaker 02

  And I'm shocked that no one's clipped her in Dropped It Gorgeous screaming gay.

• 46:43Speaker 04

  Oh my God, that movie.

• 46:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, forget it.

• 46:46Speaker 04

  Is incredible.

• 46:48Speaker 01

  That must've hit hard for you two being from St. Louis.

• 46:51Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 46:52Speaker 01

  Well, that was St. Rose, Minnesota.

• 46:54Speaker 02

  Oh, Minnesota.

• 46:55Speaker 04

  Minnesota. That's like a little more north. I love that.

• 46:59Speaker 02

  Yes, I got it mixed up.

• 47:00Speaker 01

  I mean, same.

• 47:01Speaker 04

  I wish, I like love, I love like the northern Midwest like accents. Missouri's weird. I feel like St. Louis, like do, I don't have an accent to you, do I? I don't think I do, but there's like, my grandparents kind of have a weird, like they'll be like highway farty far. Which is weird. It's, it's not country, it's not southern. It's like a very weird thing.

• 47:22Speaker 01

  It's like suggesting the Minnesota accent.

• 47:25Speaker 04

  Kind of, but almost like a little more countrified.

• 47:28Speaker 01

  Right.

• 47:28Speaker 04

  Like my dad would always, he wouldn't say wash, he'd be like, warsh.

• 47:31Speaker 01

  Warsh.

• 47:32Speaker 02

  Interesting.

• 47:33Speaker 04

  What is that? Like, I don't know. What is that?

• 47:35Speaker 02

  The stretch from Missouri to Kansas to Colorado is like.

• 47:40Speaker 04

  Four different worlds.

• 47:41Speaker 02

  Four different things. And they don't really, they don't really amount to anything, which is weird. You know what I mean? Like growing up in Colorado, we were just like, I guess we don't have an accent. But the way you would test, the way you would test if someone, uh, how someone was politically aligned is if they said Colorado, they were blue. If they said Colorado, they were red.

• 47:59Speaker 04

  Really Colorado?

• 48:00Speaker 02

  Colorado.

• 48:02Speaker 04

  Whoa.

• 48:02Speaker 02

  But I don't think Missouri has that, right? No, mi- Missouri. Missouri, that's what it is.

• 48:08Speaker 01

  Missouri.

• 48:09Speaker 02

  I love Missouri.

• 48:10Speaker 04

  Missouri.

• 48:11Speaker 01

  I do think on Long Island where I'm from, the stronger the Long Island accent, that's how you know it's true.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 48:17Speaker 04

  Oh my God, really? What part of Long Island are you from?

• 48:20Speaker 01

  Suffolk County. So like this, this like.

• 48:22Speaker 04

  Down?

• 48:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, like down on the South Shore and like the middle of it. So part of me wants to say South Central Long Island, but it doesn't sound right. I grew up like, uh, like right around where the Fire Island ferries are.

• 48:34Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 48:35Speaker 01

  And I used to work like in the, um, in the little clam shack when people would get on the ferries to go.

• 48:40Speaker 04

  Oh my God, that's like a coming of age film.

• 48:42Speaker 01

  It basically was. I'm thinking, I'm thinking about it.

• 48:45Speaker 04

  I made clam strips in the clam shack. I sold the fish sticks and I would mop the floors.

• 48:49Speaker 01

  Literally.

• 48:50Speaker 04

  And it was the summer that changed my life.

• 48:51Speaker 01

  And I literally was hooking up with my boss.

• 48:53Speaker 04

  Oh, write the movie now.

• 48:56Speaker 01

  No, I actually do have to. It actually is something I have written down.

• 49:01Speaker 04

  Call it clam stripped.

• 49:02Speaker 01

  Clam stripped.

• 49:03Speaker 02

  Clam stripped.

• 49:03Speaker 01

  Ew.

• 49:05Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 49:06Speaker 02

  Exactly. That's the feeling you want.

• 49:08Speaker 01

  You know what's funny though, is it's like you think about those, those times, like, I want people to feel fried when they, when they watch this. You think about those times and they, they are the hardest narratives to like, to sift through because it's still confusing to think about yourself as a teenager, as a late teenager. It's like the, the permanence you get on those situations doesn't come till years later. And then it's hard to put it into your work.

• 49:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:31Speaker 01

  You know, it's like hard to know what was right, what was wrong, what I was feeling.

• 49:38Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 49:38Speaker 01

  It takes a very long time, that specific age, age group where. It was a time where you think you knew it all. You thought you were older than you were.

• 49:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:48Speaker 01

  You know?

• 49:48Speaker 04

  It's kind of scary to think back to like high school times. I used to think I was so invincible.

• 49:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:53Speaker 04

  I would go places I shouldn't have gone, at hours I shouldn't be, out of my house.

• 49:57Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 49:57Speaker 04

  Getting cars with people I shouldn't be getting in cars with.

• 49:59Speaker 01

  Oh, no. The way I used to drive in high school, it was like, you really thought.

• 50:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:03Speaker 01

  You couldn't break a bone.

• 50:05Speaker 04

  No, for real. It was crazy times. I had a funny high school experience too. I was very shy and nerdy. Cause I was like new to my public school freshman year and I had braces. And so I was like new and weird and like insecure. And like kind of overweight. Like I just like didn't really feel so open to socializing.

• 50:25Speaker 01

  You weren't ready to meet everyone.

• 50:26Speaker 04

  I wasn't ready for the meet and greet of like high school life. But then, um, you know, it's, it's like, of course, this always happens. I got my braces off around like sophomore year. And then I met like the skater boy, like Click. And it was just like, I became a bad kid.

• 50:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:43Speaker 04

  Out of nowhere. Like I was very quiet, never really had great grades because I was really ADHD. But like boom, braces off. And I was like, I'm skipping school and I'm smoking weed and I'm smoking cigs. And I'm stealing bottles from Target and I'm stealing bottles from the liquor store. I got, I went, I went like sicko mode, like fast. Braces off.

• 51:01Speaker 01

  And then.

• 51:02Speaker 04

  And it was on.

• 51:02Speaker 01

  And it was on for how long?

• 51:05Speaker 04

  Um, till.

• 51:06Speaker 01

  Till now.

• 51:07Speaker 04

  Most of my life, to be honest.

• 51:10Speaker 01

  Bitches hate you. Bitches, I don't know. Why am I still laughing at bitches hate me?

• 51:14Speaker 04

  Bitches do.

• 51:15Speaker 01

  They're bitches.

• 51:16Speaker 04

  What's to like?

• 51:17Speaker 01

  Cause they're bitches.

• 51:18Speaker 02

  Oh wait, I had a thought starter. So you get so gay off that tequila. But is that, is that, is that the liquor that gets you the most gay? Tequila?

• 51:27Speaker 04

  Probably. That's the most like, I've had my craziest, most twacked out, blacked out nights.

• 51:31Speaker 01

  Tequila.

• 51:32Speaker 04

  Tequila. If you want to keep it a safe night, that's family fun for everyone, wine and beer. For me, it never stays safe and fun. If there's alcohol, I'm like, not like the like, I can have like a drink or two at dinner.

• 51:42Speaker 01

  No, it's either, it's, it's either none or six.

• 51:45Speaker 04

  It will, eh, yeah.

• 51:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's my problem.

• 51:48Speaker 02

  But I, I've, I've been in a party environment with you briefly and I'm like, and you were just so, you were so chic and lovely.

• 51:54Speaker 04

  What? Which one?

• 51:55Speaker 02

  It was, it was Hollywood.

• 51:57Speaker 04

  Oh, well, I had to perform, but afterwards it got crazy.

• 52:00Speaker 01

  Okay. You got so gay off that tequila.

• 52:01Speaker 04

  It got Halloweeny weird. It got weird. I, yeah, Halloween is weird.

• 52:06Speaker 01

  Halloween should be weird though. I get so gay off that gin.

• 52:10Speaker 02

  I was gonna say gin is what fucks me up the most.

• 52:12Speaker 04

  Really? I, I only, I really only drink gin in like a cocktail. I'm trying not to drink like a lot lately.

• 52:17Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 52:18Speaker 04

  But gin is like a, gin feels so fancy. It's like a fancy cocktail drink. If you're getting drunk off gin, yeah, that's like an old British man vibe.

• 52:24Speaker 01

  Okay, but here's the thing. So the way it was introduced to me on Long Island where I was trash, my mom said to me one day, she goes, she goes, you know, gin is sin. And I was like, okay. And we weren't religious.

• 52:36Speaker 02

  It sells it to me.

• 52:37Speaker 01

  Well, she kind of didn't know, but she did sell it to me. So then, by the way, I go to all of my friends and I'm like, yo, let, maybe this weekend, maybe it's gin. And my friends go, absolutely, we're gonna do a gin bucket. So have you experienced the gin bucket? You get one of those fucking industrial bins.

• 52:52Speaker 02

  With the, with the holes in the handle.

• 52:53Speaker 01

  With the ropes on the.

• 52:55Speaker 04

  Like jungle juice.

• 52:56Speaker 01

  Literally, literally. So you, a whole fucking handle of.

• 53:00Speaker 04

  My god.

• 53:00Speaker 01

  Probably the cheapest shit ever. Like club soda, Sprite, cut up lemons and limes, throw it in there. You get a turkey baster. Based.

• 53:10Speaker 02

  Into the mouth.

• 53:10Speaker 01

  Into the mouth.

• 53:12Speaker 04

  That is like.

• 53:13Speaker 01

  You'd be running around grabbing each other's butts. We were probably sixteen, seventeen.

• 53:19Speaker 04

  I was gonna say, that's like, children doing that is so funny.

• 53:22Speaker 01

  It's absurd.

• 53:22Speaker 04

  We, the same shit that we would like, like four different flavors of Burnett's, like one thing. And it's like, you children.

• 53:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. Really scary to think about now.

• 53:32Speaker 04

  Turkey basters, really scary.

• 53:34Speaker 01

  Just like in someone's backyard full. Like the one parent that would be like, yeah, let them do what they want to do. Just.

• 53:40Speaker 04

  There's a girl face down, passed out in the lawn.

• 53:42Speaker 01

  Always.

• 53:43Speaker 02

  It's like, at least we know where they are.

• 53:44Speaker 01

  Always. You wouldn't believe the color of some of the vomits I've seen. Like, cause of people drinking like, like, um, like Haterade. Like, you know, like.

• 53:53Speaker 02

  What's, what's Haterade again?

• 53:55Speaker 01

  It's just like red. And like you'd put, we would go to the football games and put like a ton of vodka in like a blue or red Gatorade bottle. And then it would get out of hand. And so like, there's Kevin throwing up blue.

• 54:09Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 54:09Speaker 01

  Just blue.

• 54:10Speaker 04

  And you think no one knows either. They're like, they probably think he has the flu. Teachers are watching you like fall all over.

• 54:16Speaker 01

  This is a crazy virus this boy has is blue.

• 54:18Speaker 02

  Like you're giving yourself time this summer to like, do that. I hope.

• 54:22Speaker 04

  To party?

• 54:23Speaker 02

  To party.

• 54:24Speaker 04

  I don't want to.

• 54:25Speaker 01

  You have to be on your shit.

• 54:27Speaker 04

  I don't like partying really. I'm like kind of a hard buddy.

• 54:29Speaker 01

  Are you still a stoner?

• 54:31Speaker 04

  Um, sometimes I, I, if, if it's like, some weed is bio medically engineered to make you.

• 54:37Speaker 01

  It's chronic.

• 54:37Speaker 04

  Psychotic. And I am scared. And it's, it's hard to play roulette with like which kind is fine. And everyone's like, oh, it's the sati, or it's this one.

• 54:46Speaker 01

  No.

• 54:46Speaker 04

  It's like you're more stonery stoner friend always loves to be like, no, like this one, I swear it'll be fine. And then you smoke and you're like.

• 54:51Speaker 01

  I can't.

• 54:52Speaker 04

  I need to eject from the music industry now.

• 54:54Speaker 01

  No, yeah.

• 54:55Speaker 04

  Cause everyone thinks I'm weird and I think I need to delete my Twitter today.

• 54:58Speaker 01

  No, the existential places you go, when you smoke this, I'll say it again, chronic. And they sell it on the streets in New York and LA. Now that weed is everywhere, what you can get. Cause it's like rolled in keef and stuff like that and like infused. It's not normal.

• 55:14Speaker 02

  It's not normal.

• 55:14Speaker 04

  It's not, there's like a spiral of like wax like coating and they, it's, it's like crazy. It's like Willy Wonka weed.

• 55:20Speaker 01

  It's Willy Wonka.

• 55:21Speaker 02

  It is Willy Wonka.

• 55:22Speaker 04

  It's Willy Wonka weed and it turns you into a big fucking blueberry and you get really scared.

• 55:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:25Speaker 02

  You're violeting.

• 55:26Speaker 04

  You're, you become, yes. And you, they, they, and then you see like Oompa Loompa sing a song and they roll you out and you get really scared. That's like what, every time I smoke weed, that happens every time.

• 55:34Speaker 01

  The whole fantasy.

• 55:35Speaker 02

  I need, we need to ask you about.

• 55:37Speaker 04

  In the chocolate river tube.

• 55:38Speaker 02

  Period. Because I've been thinking about this since you've put it into words in this way. Like, cause I, cause everyone's like, oh, anxiety, blah, blah. But you, you've talked about.

• 55:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:48Speaker 02

  I've been feeling this a little too much. Even this morning, we're like, we're like, I didn't really, I just had a nice chill night last night. But I wake up, I, I wake up going, oh my god.

• 55:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:57Speaker 02

  I'm the biggest piece of shit in the world.

• 55:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:00Speaker 02

  Like, why do people put up with me? I'm like, where is this all coming from? I think it's, it's, it's gotta be some chemical imbalance.

• 56:05Speaker 04

  Your brain is playing tricks on you. It's not real.

• 56:07Speaker 02

  Is, so is that knowledge enough for you to like, be like, okay, let's, let's keep it moving?

• 56:11Speaker 04

  Sometimes. I, I can talk myself down about it a lot. And my favorite thing, which it's hard though, cause it's like everyone's so different. My favorite thing to like use is like, when I see someone who's like being drunk and crazy at a party, I'm never like horribly offended. I'm just like, oh, like they're lit.

• 56:25Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 56:26Speaker 04

  I'm never like, oh my god. Like, it's like, so I feel like when I'm doing that, unless you're being like insane or it's like a medical emergency. No one's really, it's, no one's experiencing it the way you think they are. Everyone's thinking about themselves. Everyone's thinking about themselves. Everyone's thinking about their own shit, their own, everyone wants to like have their conversation. No one's.

• 56:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:46Speaker 04

  And like, maybe you annoy one person, big deal. But I think that, thinking about how you, like if someone really drunk came up to you and they were like, oh my god, hey. Like, I'm like so drunk right now. You wouldn't be like, ew. Like, you know what I mean? So it's like, or even if you like, are just like, you know, yapping. It's like, everyone loves it.

• 57:03Speaker 02

  Everyone loves that.

• 57:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. And the thing is, the thing about the anxiety is the reason why I think like you are ruminating is because you're not sure. Exactly if you have, if should, you should be embarrassed about something. And that should be an indicator that, oh, probably no one else remembers either.

• 57:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:20Speaker 01

  We were all the same thing. We all have this. And a huge element of this anxiety is the lack of knowledge. And if you're not a noxious person, you're not doing anything noxious.

• 57:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:31Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 57:32Speaker 01

  But we went to the Tonys two nights ago and the afterparties went crazy.

• 57:35Speaker 04

  Oh my god, that sounds so lit.

• 57:36Speaker 01

  It was really like, and the Tonys people, like everyone in that community is the kind of the best vibe. Because they're, they're truly working hard eight times a week and then all supporting each other. And then we're also so thoroughly entertained by the end of the evening.

• 57:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:50Speaker 01

  Performances are genuinely, you know, amazing people, that the vibe is very high. And you can tell because they're not able to party, cause they're working so hard and they have to, you know, take care of themselves. That they get the opportunity to go off and people go off.

• 58:05Speaker 04

  Drinks. And they're like.

• 58:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was out till five.

• 58:08Speaker 04

  Love.

• 58:09Speaker 01

  It was crazy.

• 58:10Speaker 02

  Like people, like there are some sinners among them.

• 58:13Speaker 01

  Oh, there's a lot of sin.

• 58:15Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 58:15Speaker 01

  I was drinking gin too.

• 58:17Speaker 04

  Really?

• 58:17Speaker 01

  Yes, which means if I was having a conversation with you.

• 58:20Speaker 04

  Bottoms up and the devil laughs.

• 58:23Speaker 02

  What are you talking about?

• 58:23Speaker 04

  The monster energy camera, she's like, look, six, six, six. Bottoms up and the devil laughs.

• 58:31Speaker 01

  I do remember her.

• 58:33Speaker 04

  She's crazy.

• 58:34Speaker 01

  The devil's drink.

• 58:36Speaker 04

  The devil's drink. The devil laughs. I'm like, I'm, I'm never gonna drink anything ever again. Not even water. You're scaring me lady.

• 58:41Speaker 01

  I would like a case of that.

• 58:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:43Speaker 02

  It's very Mitchell. Flip it around wicked way. She was saying that.

• 58:48Speaker 04

  Wait, that kind of is what that was.

• 58:49Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 58:51Speaker 01

  Wicked way.

• 58:52Speaker 04

  Bottoms up and the devil laughs.

• 58:53Speaker 02

  I was gonna say, if you turn dollar sign in a circle upside down, dollar sign in a circle.

• 58:58Speaker 04

  It's dollar sign backwards in a circle, upside down.

• 59:01Speaker 02

  Upside down.

• 59:01Speaker 01

  Think you didn't think about that one.

• 59:03Speaker 02

  Think about that.

• 59:03Speaker 01

  Hmm, at home.

• 59:04Speaker 02

  Free commerce icon.

• 59:06Speaker 04

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• 59:09Speaker 01

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• 59:12Speaker 02

  Time for some prep wisdom.

• 59:13Speaker 01

  But first, some common sense, people. Everyone is different. Every one. Yes, even you. Yes, even your situationship.

• 59:19Speaker 02

  Especially your situationship. And just like people, injectable prep options, not all the same.

• 59:26Speaker 01

  That's why you need to talk to your doctor and know what to ask. So here's some prep wisdom.

• 59:30Speaker 02

  Did you know there's more to consider about long acting injectable prep options than how often you get it? Also, why you want to take it matters. Your lifestyle matters, your routine, your chaos level, your, I might forget my own birthday energy. All of it counts.

• 59:43Speaker 01

  Basically, talk to your doctor. Have the conversation, ask the questions, be a little nosy about your own health. It's allowed, encouraged even. Okay, did you write all that down?

• 59:52Speaker 02

  No.

• 59:52Speaker 01

  Don't worry.

• 59:53Speaker 02

  Just head to getprepwisdom.com to learn what to ask your doctor. That's getprepwisdom.com.

• 59:59Speaker 01

  You probably think dressing well takes lots of money or lots of time spent digging through thrift stores.

• 1:00:04Speaker 02

  Well, not to be rude, but you're wrong. So dead wrong. And honestly, we're happy for you because now we get to tell you about Depop.

• 1:00:13Speaker 01

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• 1:00:16Speaker 02

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• 1:00:31Speaker 01

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• 1:00:36Speaker 02

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• 1:00:45Speaker 01

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• 1:00:51Speaker 02

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• 1:00:55Speaker 01

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• 1:01:00Speaker 02

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• 1:01:02Speaker 01

  Hey Bowen, is it just me or does it feel? Like, nothing is actually what it says it is anymore.

• 1:01:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, like, when you order chicken fingers, you don't get fingers, you get mystery nuggets.

• 1:01:11Speaker 01

  Exactly. Well, except hotels.com.

• 1:01:14Speaker 02

  I was gonna say, hotels.com, because they do hotels.

• 1:01:17Speaker 01

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• 1:01:18Speaker 02

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• 1:01:24Speaker 01

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• 1:01:27Speaker 02

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• 1:01:34Speaker 01

  Okay, that tracks.

• 1:01:35Speaker 02

  Hotels.com, it's all in the name.

• 1:01:37Speaker 01

  Okay, we've been talking about Cupi mayo for a minute now, Bo, and wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of y'all love this stuff.

• 1:01:45Speaker 02

  You're stopping us in the street going, "I love Cupi." And if you're thinking, "Wait, what is Cupi?" Uh, do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise, the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle.

• 1:01:59Speaker 01

  Once you know it, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo. Well, the answer? Egg yolks.

• 1:02:05Speaker 02

  Cupi is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles.

• 1:02:16Speaker 01

  Chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really love food and flavor use it.

• 1:02:21Speaker 02

  Whatever you're eating, Cupi it. So if you haven't tried Cupi yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand. Cupi, the original Japanese mayonnaise. Um, I think it's time.

• 1:02:35Speaker 01

  Might be time for I Don't Think So Honey. This is the segment that we do each and every time out, where we rip into something in pop culture, or around it. I have decided something is actually important to me, and I need to speak on it.

• 1:02:51Speaker 02

  This is...

• 1:02:52Speaker 01

  And this is my, this is my platform to do that.

• 1:02:54Speaker 04

  I can't wait.

• 1:02:54Speaker 01

  Here we go.

• 1:02:55Speaker 02

  This is Matt Rogers, I Don't Think So Honey, his time starts now.

• 1:02:57Speaker 01

  I Don't Think So Honey spelling things right.

• 1:02:59Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 1:02:59Speaker 01

  I, it's a form of expression when I say, in a text to my sister, I am emotional and spelt like this. E-M-O-S-H-U-N-A-L.

• 1:03:08Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:03:09Speaker 01

  And then the phone has the audacity to try to, I meant what I said. When I typed it out the way that I typed it out, I meant what I said, just like Slater said earlier, okay? And for me, it's expression. Think about this, Freak a Leak. You remember that song? Not a word is spelt wrong, not freak, not leak. And that is important. Worst girl in America, there's a dollar sign in there, baby. Don't describe this album and say, "Wow, did you listen to this?" without the dollar sign. But also do what you want, because again, that would be the right spelling, and I give you the frim to be incorrect. I am never making a mistake when I spell a word, and I say this as someone who placed sixth place, yes, sixth place, in my sixth grade spelling bee, which is pretty good.

• 1:03:53Speaker 01

  So I know my shit, I'm doing it on purpose, none of that red little squiggle, I Don't Think So Honey, that I don't think so, honey, what I'm trying to spell and say.

• 1:04:02Speaker 02

  And that's one minute.

• 1:04:03Speaker 01

  Wow. You really like, I just feel like the way that the girls are like, write their song titles now, the, the word Slater, no, there's three Y's.

• 1:04:13Speaker 02

  Three Y's.

• 1:04:14Speaker 01

  You freed us.

• 1:04:14Speaker 02

  Wake it up.

• 1:04:15Speaker 04

  Free, be free.

• 1:04:17Speaker 01

  And all caps, icon.

• 1:04:18Speaker 04

  That's my artist, uh, mission statement.

• 1:04:20Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:04:21Speaker 04

  Be...

• 1:04:22Speaker 01

  Be free.

• 1:04:23Speaker 02

  Period. I used to be a spelling square, because spelling is for squares, and now I'm like, wait a minute, what am I upholding? Like...

• 1:04:31Speaker 04

  The grammar in my music is terrible.

• 1:04:33Speaker 02

  The what? The grammar in your music?

• 1:04:34Speaker 04

  The grammar in my music is terrible. Spelling and grammar, like, lose it.

• 1:04:37Speaker 02

  Lose it.

• 1:04:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I bet, I bet you did at one point have a good grasp. Like, you, you, you break the form. Like, I, we're, in school...

• 1:04:45Speaker 04

  I was, you know, it's funny, I had like, I had a GPA so low, it would probably shock both of you.

• 1:04:50Speaker 02

  Hell, uh.

• 1:04:51Speaker 04

  1.5.

• 1:04:51Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:04:52Speaker 04

  The lowest you could get and still walk. And then I went to college on academic probation, because University of Missouri, no offense, was so desperate for people's tuition, no offense.

• 1:05:00Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 1:05:01Speaker 04

  They wanted to take my, uh, student debt, you know, money, and then I flunked out. They were like, "Your grades are so bad, but we'll see, we'll see about you for a year, just come pay."

• 1:05:10Speaker 01

  We just want, as an experiment, come to college.

• 1:05:13Speaker 04

  But even though it's not looking so good for you.

• 1:05:15Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:05:16Speaker 04

  And I went to college for a year, and then I failed out, because I just, I, but I was always really good at English.

• 1:05:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:22Speaker 04

  And really good with like choir and art and all that.

• 1:05:25Speaker 02

  But what's better, what's better about being good at English is not the spelling.

• 1:05:30Speaker 04

  No, yeah.

• 1:05:31Speaker 02

  It's about the way you interpret.

• 1:05:32Speaker 04

  Feeling.

• 1:05:33Speaker 02

  The feeling.

• 1:05:34Speaker 01

  Well, literally, and I remember being like this, like, there are people that, like, I remember walking around, and the, also, the other crazy reveal is that later you find out that just a shit ton of people had dyslexia.

• 1:05:45Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:05:45Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? They just learn differently than the way, like, I remember reading in class, like, we would all, like, okay, we're, today we're reading Pride and Prejudice or whatever the fuck, and now we're gonna take turns reading the parts, and people would have to, and watching people struggle, and you realize now, it's just like, it's not all easy for everyone. And I just wish there could have been more of an emphasis on just be really good at what you're really good at.

• 1:06:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:06:10Speaker 01

  Like, that's, if I run the Department of Ed, I'm like, let people pick five things they wanna do, and go ham on that.

• 1:06:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:06:19Speaker 01

  And, because there's no reason for me to have been in math class.

• 1:06:22Speaker 04

  Yeah. Notice, notice what children are like, excelling at.

• 1:06:26Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:06:26Speaker 04

  And be like, "Oh, you're really good at this thing." I was so bad at math, and I would have teachers who would get so frustrated, because they'd be like, "We read your essay, and your standardized testing, like, you are smart." And I'd be like, "Really?"

• 1:06:36Speaker 01

  Yeah. But I resent that, though.

• 1:06:38Speaker 04

  But they would be like, "You're so smart, like, why can't you just do your homework?" And I'm like, "I don't know, because I don't give a fuck about chemistry."

• 1:06:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:44Speaker 04

  Or biology, or like, math, anything math.

• 1:06:48Speaker 01

  Chemistry's so made up.

• 1:06:50Speaker 04

  I would get like, caught cheating on my tests.

• 1:06:51Speaker 02

  How, what, what was your style of cheating?

• 1:06:53Speaker 04

  Um, so I was so bad at school that they would, I would always like, miss school, skip, so I'd always take my test at like, a different day or something, and they'd like, put me in a room, and like, to like, take my test on like, a different day than everybody else, because I like, would have missed school that day.

• 1:07:06Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:07:06Speaker 04

  And then I would like, have like, a paper of answers from like, a friend who took the test. And one time, my teacher caught me, and he was like, "I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that, because I do not want to see you in my class next year." And I was like, "Thank you."

• 1:07:17Speaker 02

  That's interesting. I don't wanna see you.

• 1:07:19Speaker 04

  He's like, I was like, "I never want to see you again, so you're gonna pass." And I was like, "Right."

• 1:07:24Speaker 01

  That is a way to game the system.

• 1:07:26Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 1:07:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:27Speaker 01

  Just so bad in class that people are like...

• 1:07:31Speaker 02

  Get out.

• 1:07:31Speaker 01

  Pass her.

• 1:07:32Speaker 04

  God bless him, like, I got what I want.

• 1:07:33Speaker 01

  Yeah. Good for you.

• 1:07:35Speaker 02

  Good for you. Uh, I've got, I've got something.

• 1:07:38Speaker 01

  You got something today? Okay. So this, no, I have my own little phone, my own little device. Okay, well, this is the moment we've all been waiting for, this is Bo and Yang's, I Don't Think So Honey, his time starts now.

• 1:07:48Speaker 02

  I Don't Think So Honey, refrigerators aren't magnetic anymore.

• 1:07:51Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:07:52Speaker 02

  Hey, what happened to a little clutter? What happened to a little wabi-sabi? Because guess what? You're wiping out an entire fucking industry of magnets, letters, little things where you can put... What? Here's a question, what do you do with a loose printed photograph? I guess you have to frame every single one of them now and find the space to prop them up? No, they were meant to be put on fridges, and now that the metals are alloys that contain nickel, and all this other non-magnetic stuff, it used to just be a slab of iron, but now they're putting all this fingerproof, fingerprint-proofing stuff on it. It's, for the sake of sleekless, sleekness and cleanliness, I want a little bit of mess.

• 1:08:35Speaker 02

  I want my kitchen to be a little shitty, not the, you know, but you know what I mean? Like, I want, I want things on the door.

• 1:08:42Speaker 01

  Five seconds.

• 1:08:43Speaker 02

  Because otherwise, it's just a thing that's at my eye line that's blank. I need some visual interest in my life.

• 1:08:49Speaker 01

  And that's one minute. A refrigerator should be like Tumblr.

• 1:08:52Speaker 02

  A refrigerator should be like Tumblr.

• 1:08:53Speaker 04

  A reflection of the soul.

• 1:08:55Speaker 01

  Yes. Because then it's just like...

• 1:08:57Speaker 04

  My LA fridge really is, the way that you're saying that, I'm like, you know what? I've curated some good magnets, I have like Betty Page magnets, and like Vintage Budweiser. It should, it should have pictures of people you love.

• 1:09:06Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:09:07Speaker 04

  Notes from your mom.

• 1:09:08Speaker 01

  Yes. No, the refrigerator is an opportunity.

• 1:09:10Speaker 02

  It's the thing you see, like, kind of most often in the slideshow of your day.

• 1:09:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:14Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? Like, it should have, it should have things that make you feel joy or comfort, and it's like, or it should like, you write a little intention, you put it right at your eye line. It's a huge missed opportunity. I don't know why this is the shift in, in the trend. I say we go back to it, literally, like...

• 1:09:31Speaker 04

  It's because millennial gray took over the world.

• 1:09:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, you know, and there is some sort of like, I think it's like an over Marie Kondo-ization of...

• 1:09:38Speaker 02

  Don't bring her into this.

• 1:09:40Speaker 01

  But just like, you are supposed to, here's the thing, shit that goes on the refrigerator in that way, that doesn't belong anywhere else.

• 1:09:48Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:09:49Speaker 01

  Like, it's, it's, it's, it's like, you know, photographic, tchotchke. And like, you know, a drawing that like your little cousin made.

• 1:09:57Speaker 02

  So lovely. It deserves a place, but I don't know if I'm framing all of that.

• 1:10:01Speaker 01

  No, you're not.

• 1:10:02Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? Like, I see like this is sounds like a dream, this LA fridge.

• 1:10:05Speaker 04

  It's, it is. And what's inside it is a dream as well.

• 1:10:08Speaker 01

  What's in the fridge?

• 1:10:09Speaker 04

  Uh, lots of leftovers. Cottage cheese. I like.

• 1:10:14Speaker 01

  Big thing of cottage cheese.

• 1:10:15Speaker 04

  Cheese. I love like protein. I eat a lot of protein. There's like chicken. I have like, I love like muscle bro food. So I have like a lot of like whole food shit. I love like my health. I love my LA like health, air one bullshit.

• 1:10:26Speaker 01

  Are you up in the gym lifting?

• 1:10:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, I love it. I do a lot of Pilates and I love hot Pilates. Heated.

• 1:10:32Speaker 02

  Heated Pilates.

• 1:10:33Speaker 01

  Okay, I got, we gotta try this.

• 1:10:34Speaker 02

  Do you eat boy kibble?

• 1:10:36Speaker 04

  What is boy? Is that like, oh, the ground beef on rice?

• 1:10:38Speaker 02

  Ground meat, ground meat on rice.

• 1:10:40Speaker 04

  Sometimes.

• 1:10:41Speaker 01

  Sometimes.

• 1:10:42Speaker 02

  Love boy kibble.

• 1:10:43Speaker 04

  Sometimes, but I think it's like such a, it's like, I don't know. Sometimes you gotta like hit the macro and you gotta like, you gotta do. I love like a chicken. I love rotisserie chicken. I got a rotisserie chicken in my fridge a lot.

• 1:10:54Speaker 01

  I mean, it's, first of all, it tastes the best.

• 1:10:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:10:57Speaker 01

  I just go rip it up with my hands.

• 1:10:59Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:11:00Speaker 01

  Nasty.

• 1:11:01Speaker 04

  I had a college show in Iowa and I have like grilled chicken breast on my rider. And everyone like jokes that it's like when a dog has diarrhea, that's like their like meal. They're like, go eat your diarrhea dog meal. But they had a full rotisserie chicken. These like sweet little college students brought a rotisserie chicken and one of them came to meet me. I know, I feel so bad. My hands are like wet and I'm eating rotisserie chicken.

• 1:11:23Speaker 01

  That's perfect.

• 1:11:24Speaker 04

  And they're like, hey. Fork, no knife. I'm like, I'm like, hey, thanks for having me.

• 1:11:29Speaker 01

  They're like, we could have gotten you, um.

• 1:11:31Speaker 04

  They're like, we're really big fans. And I'm like, yeah.

• 1:11:37Speaker 01

  Grease.

• 1:11:37Speaker 04

  Crank it.

• 1:11:41Speaker 01

  Literally, that is the definition of cranking it pre-show.

• 1:11:44Speaker 04

  It is.

• 1:11:44Speaker 01

  Cranking rotisserie chicken.

• 1:11:46Speaker 04

  And we got crunk and I was full of protein.

• 1:11:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, good.

• 1:11:49Speaker 02

  You get so full of that rotisserie.

• 1:11:54Speaker 04

  Full of that boy kibble.

• 1:11:55Speaker 01

  Full of that boy kibble.

• 1:11:58Speaker 02

  You need to write like a fridge song. You know what I mean?

• 1:12:01Speaker 04

  A jingle.

• 1:12:01Speaker 02

  A jingle. No, not jingle. No, I'm saying like a full on like screaming about what the fuck is in your freezer.

• 1:12:08Speaker 04

  What's in my freezer? Oh, so what's in my freezer is different from what's in the fridge?

• 1:12:13Speaker 02

  What's in your freezer?

• 1:12:17Speaker 01

  Dahmer reveal.

• 1:12:18Speaker 02

  Dahmer reveal.

• 1:12:20Speaker 01

  Okay. Wait, the one thing too is I want to say PSA. You can't put everything in the crisper. Everyone at home. So Melissa put.

• 1:12:28Speaker 02

  We all know.

• 1:12:28Speaker 04

  Are you talking about like an air fryer?

• 1:12:30Speaker 01

  The air fryer?

• 1:12:31Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 1:12:33Speaker 04

  I'm, my hot take might be I'm anti air fryer.

• 1:12:36Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:12:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:12:37Speaker 01

  Why? Cause ease of use?

• 1:12:38Speaker 04

  Ease of use, convenience is killing America. Everyone needs to be more Anthony, Anthony Bourdainian about the way they move through life.

• 1:12:45Speaker 01

  Bourdain would have hated it.

• 1:12:46Speaker 04

  Bourdain would have never put shit in an air fryer.

• 1:12:49Speaker 02

  No, you're so right.

• 1:12:51Speaker 04

  And it's just like, you know, I, I, I could do a microwave. But I draw the line at another giant bulky appliance that sits on the counter. And like, does it need to be so crispy? Was it crispy?

• 1:13:03Speaker 01

  Here's the thing.

• 1:13:03Speaker 04

  Was it really that crispy?

• 1:13:04Speaker 01

  If I can have nuggets in 15 minutes.

• 1:13:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:13:07Speaker 01

  I'll overlook all of this. I love nuggets.

• 1:13:10Speaker 04

  That's fair. That's fair.

• 1:13:12Speaker 01

  I go crazy for nuggets.

• 1:13:13Speaker 02

  Damn oven.

• 1:13:14Speaker 01

  I guess, but.

• 1:13:16Speaker 02

  Ovens, ovens have done nothing but support you.

• 1:13:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:13:19Speaker 02

  And been shoe storage or whatever the fuck. Like, come on.

• 1:13:23Speaker 01

  Shoe storage.

• 1:13:24Speaker 04

  Are you SJP herself?

• 1:13:26Speaker 02

  I'm saying.

• 1:13:26Speaker 04

  Shoe storage.

• 1:13:27Speaker 02

  Shoe storage.

• 1:13:28Speaker 04

  Storage.

• 1:13:29Speaker 01

  I mean, listen.

• 1:13:30Speaker 02

  Not too much. This is something. No, you have something else prepared.

• 1:13:35Speaker 04

  What? I forgot it. I feel like, should I do?

• 1:13:37Speaker 02

  Go, go on air fryer. Okay, wait, we're printing on the clock.

• 1:13:40Speaker 01

  Wait, did you have it? I don't think so, honey, that you already prepared or you forgot it?

• 1:13:43Speaker 04

  I thought I was gonna wing it and now I'm like, it's like when someone asks you your favorite song, you're like, I don't know any music.

• 1:13:46Speaker 02

  Exactly. Do, do this one.

• 1:13:49Speaker 04

  Do the air fryer?

• 1:13:50Speaker 02

  Do the air fryer. This is Slater's, I don't think so, honey, your time starts now.

• 1:13:53Speaker 04

  I think that air fryers are a spiritually corrupt appliance for the kitchen. They're bulky, they're unnecessary. I think convenience is becoming such an issue in America. Everybody wants everything to be so convenient. Go walk down the street, go find some chicken from like a food truck, go walk into like a mom and pop restaurant. Or make a damn chicken nugget yourself. I'm like talking to you. I just think that it's so, I feel like I see every day, there's more gadgets that just clutter up your kitchen. It's so unnecessary.

• 1:14:21Speaker 02

  Thirty seconds.

• 1:14:22Speaker 04

  There's like, you don't need like an avocado cutter. You don't need an air fryer. Just like make your food. Oh my god. Actually, you might need that. No, I'm kidding. But it's just, I hate convenient things. Just like make, make a meal and like make it with your hands and like use your oven and use your stove. Get on the cast iron skillet. Make food the way that we've been making food for years. We don't need air fryers. And you know what? I think it does weird shit to our food. I think that it adds a chemical. I think there's like a layer, there's some kind of resin in there that's like getting baked into your, your nuggets.

• 1:14:56Speaker 02

  Get the resin out. That's one minute.

• 1:14:58Speaker 04

  Oh, get the air fryer out of the kitchen.

• 1:14:59Speaker 01

  Yes. Can air fryer conspiracy theories. Wow.

• 1:15:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, cause how do you explain like the, somehow we really all bought in as a culture, right? This giant fucking thing. Sure. Don't you have the counter space? No, but I'll put, I'll plug it in anyway. Oh, sorry toaster. You're going in the cabinet for this thing with a, a drawer and a handle? I don't understand.

• 1:15:21Speaker 04

  Also, they will explode randomly.

• 1:15:23Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:15:24Speaker 04

  Have you ever seen someone being like, yeah, my house burned down, a Ring camera, our air fryer exploded. It's like, oh, awesome. Good to know that those can just randomly.

• 1:15:33Speaker 01

  See, that's a story about forgetting to unplug.

• 1:15:35Speaker 04

  You watch out.

• 1:15:36Speaker 01

  I guess I will. Well, here's the thing. I have one and I, you know what else is on my cabinet? I mean, my counter. An ice machine. Like I have an ice machine on the counter separate from the, from the.

• 1:15:47Speaker 04

  That could be fair if you don't have, like, I don't have an ice maker in my freezer.

• 1:15:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I bet you're a fan of the cube tray.

• 1:15:54Speaker 04

  I am.

• 1:15:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, I knew it.

• 1:15:55Speaker 04

  I like, I like when the, I like when ice cubes taste a little weird.

• 1:15:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, like what the fuck is that? Is it something that's? Yeah.

• 1:16:05Speaker 01

  Tastes like ice.

• 1:16:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:16:07Speaker 02

  The butt ice. That's what they call it.

• 1:16:08Speaker 01

  Butt ice.

• 1:16:09Speaker 04

  What's butt ice?

• 1:16:10Speaker 03

  Who called it that?

• 1:16:11Speaker 02

  I don't know. Someone called it butt ice on the show.

• 1:16:13Speaker 01

  Butt ice.

• 1:16:13Speaker 02

  But it's just, it's like that perfectly like, doo, smooth.

• 1:16:16Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, like a cube. Or not, it's not a cube. It's like a, like a crescent.

• 1:16:20Speaker 02

  Like a little, like a, like a croissant, you said?

• 1:16:21Speaker 04

  A crescent.

• 1:16:22Speaker 02

  A crescent.

• 1:16:22Speaker 04

  Or a croissant.

• 1:16:24Speaker 02

  Which is?

• 1:16:24Speaker 04

  Similar shape.

• 1:16:25Speaker 02

  Similar shape.

• 1:16:26Speaker 01

  Who said butt ice?

• 1:16:27Speaker 04

  A croissant is named a croissant? Cause it's, is that, is that French for crescent?

• 1:16:31Speaker 01

  I love a croissant.

• 1:16:32Speaker 02

  Is that French for crescent?

• 1:16:33Speaker 04

  Is that French for crescent?

• 1:16:34Speaker 02

  That's the Missouri.

• 1:16:36Speaker 04

  I love, oh my god. You know, like, you know, like Brad Pitt in Inglourious Basterds when he's like, Grancy.

• 1:16:42Speaker 04

  Cause like, you know, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not gonna like offend them by like trying to speak French or Italian.

• 1:16:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:51Speaker 01

  Gracie.

• 1:16:52Speaker 04

  Bonjour, no.

• 1:16:53Speaker 02

  Oh, charming.

• 1:16:55Speaker 01

  See, but me at the end of, me at the end of any of our trips to, um, Italy, I was so sad to not be able to say buonasera. Anymore. Buonasera is a good one. And also, um, ka in Thailand.

• 1:17:08Speaker 02

  Ka.

• 1:17:08Speaker 01

  Ka. Kapcom ka.

• 1:17:10Speaker 04

  What does that mean?

• 1:17:11Speaker 01

  It means, thank you. Kapcom ka.

• 1:17:14Speaker 02

  Oh, kapcom ka, thank you.

• 1:17:14Speaker 04

  That just made me think of bridesmaid, bridesmaids. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:17:18Speaker 01

  And that's all.

• 1:17:19Speaker 04

  And she like claps, she's like.

• 1:17:22Speaker 02

  I.

• 1:17:23Speaker 04

  Parvivara and.

• 1:17:25Speaker 01

  And la casa de.

• 1:17:27Speaker 04

  Classic.

• 1:17:29Speaker 01

  That's a hungover movie.

• 1:17:30Speaker 02

  That's a hungover.

• 1:17:30Speaker 04

  That is the best. Yeah. My sister and me love that movie.

• 1:17:34Speaker 01

  The one, the only.

• 1:17:35Speaker 04

  Like the niche quotes from like, oh shit, that's fresh. They're saying that.

• 1:17:38Speaker 01

  Oh, that is fresh.

• 1:17:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:17:40Speaker 02

  Um, underrated. I climbed him like a tree.

• 1:17:42Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 1:17:44Speaker 01

  I broke it in half. Do you understand what I'm saying? I broke it in half.

• 1:17:50Speaker 02

  What? Something on the plane. Oh, you know what I always say? Wait, the vocalist for us, you'll like it. It's sweet.

• 1:17:55Speaker 01

  You'll get it sweet.

• 1:17:56Speaker 04

  It's sweet. I would, I would say that the, oh, she knows the DJ is like almost part inspired by, oh, you know.

• 1:18:07Speaker 04

  Cause that's me. I'm like that girl. I'm like the friend where I'm like, you know.

• 1:18:11Speaker 01

  Clocking every name drop.

• 1:18:12Speaker 04

  You're like uppity friend that is like, you know, knows the owner. I'm, I'm like off a perk and I'm being like, oh, you know.

• 1:18:21Speaker 01

  Off a perk.

• 1:18:22Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. I'm not, I don't do that, but like, I don't want kids to be like, oh, I want to do, oh my god, you know.

• 1:18:27Speaker 01

  Glamorizing drug use.

• 1:18:29Speaker 04

  Once again, I feel like my album does the opposite. My album is like, this is really, it's like, this is gross and bad. Like old technology video. I'm like, this isn't cool, guys. Like this is like.

• 1:18:39Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 1:18:39Speaker 04

  You know?

• 1:18:40Speaker 02

  It's, it's like the way that like Lynch makes like parts of Los Angeles feel like terrifying.

• 1:18:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:18:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:46Speaker 02

  And it makes you never want to go.

• 1:18:47Speaker 01

  Countess Luan said, don't be all uncool. I would say be uncool.

• 1:18:50Speaker 02

  Be uncool.

• 1:18:51Speaker 04

  Big, that's a hot take, but I fully agree.

• 1:18:55Speaker 01

  Be uncool.

• 1:18:55Speaker 04

  There's nothing cooler than being uncool. Everyone cool is always like kinda uncool.

• 1:19:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:00Speaker 04

  And kind of nerdy and kind of like passionate about something and they're kinda uncool.

• 1:19:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, I feel like.

• 1:19:05Speaker 04

  No one, no one that's like, you think is cool is actually cool. You talk to like a cool person who like, you're like, oh, that person's so cool. They're not so cool. They're not gonna make you laugh and they're probably kinda mean.

• 1:19:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:15Speaker 04

  You know what I mean?

• 1:19:16Speaker 01

  Is that your experience in the biz?

• 1:19:18Speaker 04

  Kind of.

• 1:19:19Speaker 01

  Well, trust me.

• 1:19:20Speaker 04

  People are so, I feel like I've been like the tacky artist people are too cool for a lot of times. So now with everything happening, I'm like experiencing things and like, you really like, talk with or like get to know people and I'm like, you're like a bad hang.

• 1:19:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:33Speaker 04

  You know what I mean?

• 1:19:34Speaker 01

  Yes. Several times again and again, this has become apparent.

• 1:19:38Speaker 02

  Cause the cool thing at this point has been like, kinda co-opted by like, oh, like.

• 1:19:44Speaker 04

  Like cool dudes are really mean.

• 1:19:47Speaker 01

  Cool dudes are really mean.

• 1:19:48Speaker 04

  I get it. That's their thing.

• 1:19:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:51Speaker 04

  But like little old me is not, I'm not sitting through that.

• 1:19:54Speaker 01

  No. Me from a, me from 10 years ago would. Like, oh, he's being mean to me.

• 1:19:59Speaker 04

  Me from 10 years, be like, please, please, please.

• 1:20:03Speaker 02

  Me now.

• 1:20:08Speaker 01

  Iconic sub.

• 1:20:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. You're, you're, you're, you're, you're a switch, aren't you?

• 1:20:15Speaker 04

  What does that mean?

• 1:20:16Speaker 02

  The dom and sub.

• 1:20:17Speaker 04

  Um.

• 1:20:18Speaker 02

  No, you're dom.

• 1:20:19Speaker 04

  What?

• 1:20:19Speaker 02

  You're a dom, for sure.

• 1:20:21Speaker 04

  Maybe. I'm just, I'm just miserable.

• 1:20:25Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:20:26Speaker 04

  I'm neither.

• 1:20:27Speaker 02

  You're neither.

• 1:20:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:20:29Speaker 02

  No, but you're, see, but like, I want to say like, you're cool. You know what I mean?

• 1:20:33Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:20:33Speaker 02

  But not in the way that you're talking about.

• 1:20:35Speaker 04

  Feel cool.

• 1:20:36Speaker 01

  Keep feeling uncool. Cause everything you're feeling and doing is working for you.

• 1:20:39Speaker 04

  I look in the mirror and I'm like shaking. I'm like, okay.

• 1:20:43Speaker 01

  Um, we're so fucking happy that you came.

• 1:20:46Speaker 04

  Thank you for having me.

• 1:20:47Speaker 01

  Unbelievable. It's now won the album of the year. Now you know it's gone too far. It won album of the year at Lost Culture.

• 1:20:53Speaker 02

  Go still like the album of the year, though.

• 1:20:55Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:20:55Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 1:20:56Speaker 04

  That is so, thank you for one nominating me. I'm back into my speech. I'm like, thank you for nominating me. And I just can't, that's the first thing I've ever won. I've never won an award.

• 1:21:05Speaker 01

  What? Wow.

• 1:21:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:21:07Speaker 02

  We're sending you a trophy.

• 1:21:07Speaker 01

  Slap it on the Wikipedia. We gotta send a trophy. Even though West Elm did discontinue the doorstops that we used to make into trophies. That you would love that DIY.

• 1:21:16Speaker 04

  Get them on the phone.

• 1:21:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:21:17Speaker 02

  We're getting them on the phone.

• 1:21:18Speaker 04

  Someone email.

• 1:21:19Speaker 01

  We actually do know someone that, you know who works there now? Thomas Gibbons.

• 1:21:22Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:21:22Speaker 01

  And he was like, actually, like, we should do something. And I was like, look, I mean, they make a doorstop again? Cause we need it for the centerpiece of our whole award show.

• 1:21:29Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:21:30Speaker 04

  You guys should just like get one and like 3D print it or something.

• 1:21:33Speaker 01

  But then it wouldn't be as heavy.

• 1:21:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, the weight is crucial.

• 1:21:37Speaker 02

  So crucial. People are like, people like put it down at the show. They're like, this is a lot.

• 1:21:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, there was, that actually was our entire goal. We wanted it to be the heaviest award in history.

• 1:21:45Speaker 04

  You guys should just get like a 30 pound kettleball and be like, here you go.

• 1:21:49Speaker 02

  Perfect. Next time you're here, we're gonna find out what's in your freezer. Until then, this has been Slater on Lost Culture. We end every episode with a song.

• 1:21:59Speaker 02

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• 1:22:13Speaker 01

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