Vicky Pattison is All or Nothing - But at What Cost?

Vicky Pattison enters Dr Joe Marler’s office as a self-confessed all or nothing person. When she loves something, she REALLY loves it - but Joe wants to know whether giving everything 100% all of the time might be taking its toll. Together they explore the harder side of going all in, from burnout and the pressure she puts on herself, to how that intensity can spill over into life with her husband and family. And when the conversation turns to how Vicky sees herself and the person she’s become, things get unexpectedly emotional in the office. There’s plenty of room for Vicky’s more joyful obsessions too, including the role manifesting has played in her life. Joe is naturally sceptical… until he realises he could use it to bag his dream podcast guest. GET TICKETS TO THE LIVE TOUR HERE: https://www.livenation.co.uk/joe-marler-will-see-you-live-tickets-adp1647830 Featuring Joe Marler (@joemarler17) and Jake Bhardwaj (@jakebhardwajtv) Follow the show on Instagram: @willseeyounowshow Joe Marler Will See You Now is a Platform Media production. Refund Club is a trading style of Sandsford Law Limited, authorised and regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA no. 8008114). Checking is free. A fee is payable only if your claim is successful. Eligibility: car finance taken out in the UK between 2007 and 2021. The average claim is around £829 per agreement; this is an average and not a guarantee of the amount you will receive. You can also claim yourself for free by contacting your lender or the Financial Ombudsman Service. http://refundclub.co.uk/marler Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:24Speaker 03

  Someone said this week...

• 1:26Speaker 04

  Was it to do with our noses?

• 1:27Speaker 03

  No, we've never had any nose stuff.

• 1:29Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:29Speaker 03

  Never had any nose stuff.

• 1:30Speaker 04

  That surprises me, because, mate, that is huge.

• 1:33Speaker 03

  Between the pair of us, if we're sitting next to each other, I turn right, you turn left, absolute chaos.

• 1:38Speaker 04

  And like we've said, we struggle to kiss, don't we?

• 1:40Speaker 03

  Total disaster.

• 1:41Speaker 04

  Because it's like, oh.

• 1:42Speaker 03

  Someone said this week, "This is a Timu version of Wolf and Owl."

• 1:50Speaker 03

  Which I think is incredible.

• 1:52Speaker 04

  Actually, that's a compliment, isn't it?

• 1:56Speaker 03

  Eh?

• 1:56Speaker 04

  That's a compliment.

• 1:57Speaker 03

  Massive compliment. Tom Davis, Ramesh Ranganathan, yes, please. My god.

• 2:02Speaker 04

  Is Timu actually too high? Aren't we more Ali Baba?

• 2:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, it would be Ali Baba.

• 2:07Speaker 04

  That's where we get our penis pumps from.

• 2:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, pound shop, Wolf and Owl, I'd have taken even. I'm a lot smaller than Ramesh, though, and you're obviously a lot bigger than Tom Davis, so...

• 2:14Speaker 04

  No, I'm not. He's six foot seven.

• 2:16Speaker 03

  What are you?

• 2:18Speaker 04

  Five-eleven.

• 2:19Speaker 03

  Are you?

• 2:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:21Speaker 03

  So I'm taller than you?

• 2:22Speaker 04

  You're not taller than me.

• 2:23Speaker 03

  Yes, I fucking am.

• 2:24Speaker 04

  How tall are you?

• 2:25Speaker 03

  I fucking am. You're about to fucking spark me out, then, you're really...

• 2:27Speaker 04

  How tall are you?

• 2:28Speaker 03

  Six.

• 2:29Speaker 04

  You're not six foot, mate.

• 2:30Speaker 03

  Sit next to me. Sit next to me, boy.

• 2:34Speaker 03

  Little fella.

• 2:36Speaker 04

  Put your chest down.

• 2:37Speaker 03

  What, your chest isn't doing anything?

• 2:38Speaker 04

  Put your pigeon chest down.

• 2:40Speaker 03

  Back to back.

• 2:42Speaker 03

  Right, what are you doing there? Can we get some rules on this, please? No, seriously, I want this to be completely legit here. What we got?

• 2:52Speaker 05

  Joe's hat is...

• 2:55Speaker 04

  Is attached to my body.

• 2:58Speaker 05

  But I think his head is about half an inch taller than me.

• 3:01Speaker 03

  Well, then, you're six foot. Congratulations, you're six foot. You had no idea. Congratulations, you're six foot. Well done. Can we get a medal for him or some certificate? I remember the day I found out I was six foot. It's a great day.

• 3:18Speaker 03

  Joe, let me take you on a journey across the UK via accents. There's a little clue as to who we've got on the show. When we get to a certain place in the UK...

• 3:28Speaker 04

  Are you going and I go, or are we going together?

• 3:30Speaker 03

  We'll go together.

• 3:31Speaker 04

  Let's start... Where are we starting then?

• 3:33Speaker 03

  We're starting, I think we know where we're starting.

• 3:34Speaker 04

  Where are you two? Well, but it's quite odd, because you've got to even admit, are we going Bristol? Are we going Bres?

• 3:39Speaker 03

  I was trying to start right down near Penzance.

• 3:42Speaker 04

  Whoa, that's more...

• 3:44Speaker 03

  At that point, you've got the accent, but you're really trying it.

• 3:48Speaker 04

  That's a little bit more like, eh.

• 3:50Speaker 03

  You're really... You've got the accent, but you're very suspicious of people who have come from outside.

• 3:55Speaker 04

  You go, eh, where does a pirate keep his sweets?

• 3:58Speaker 03

  That's exactly it. And then right now, we may go up to Bristol.

• 4:01Speaker 04

  Where does a pirate keep his sweets?

• 4:02Speaker 03

  Where does a pirate keep his sweets?

• 4:03Speaker 04

  In a jar.

• 4:04Speaker 03

  Ah, that's lovely stuff. Right, then we move up right down to Bristol, right?

• 4:09Speaker 04

  Oh, right, yeah.

• 4:09Speaker 03

  See, people are a little bit...

• 4:10Speaker 04

  Where are you two now, then?

• 4:11Speaker 03

  I'm just a little bit more receptive to outsiders now that I'm in Bristol, because I'm in a city.

• 4:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, me, and usually after I've had a couple of dry siders and listened to a bit of the Wurzels, I like it.

• 4:22Speaker 03

  Right, so now, would you move across? Cross? Actually, no. First of all, keep moving up and a little bit more west to Wales.

• 4:31Speaker 04

  Wales, da.

• 4:33Speaker 03

  All right.

• 4:33Speaker 04

  Is it North Walian, or are we doing...

• 4:36Speaker 03

  I actually don't really know how to do the difference between...

• 4:39Speaker 04

  Because I quite like being from Cardiff Bay, you know.

• 4:42Speaker 03

  For me, if I was in Cardiff, I'd speak very quick, I'd speak very... Everything becomes very short. But I think if I move to the Valleys and I'm going up to North Wales...

• 4:49Speaker 04

  Well, down near Pontypoolie, or...

• 4:51Speaker 03

  Then I'm thinking I'm a little bit...

• 4:53Speaker 04

  Abergavany?

• 4:54Speaker 03

  Abergavany.

• 4:54Speaker 04

  Aberhuiswet?

• 4:55Speaker 03

  Absolutely. All of those places are a little bit longer, a little bit bouncier, I think.

• 5:00Speaker 04

  What about the Wombles?

• 5:01Speaker 03

  The Wombles? The Wombles, I think, were from Wimbledon. And I think Wimbledon is just very... The closest you'll get to received pronunciation. We're going to move away from there very quickly. All the way north up to Birmingham.

• 5:12Speaker 04

  All right, there, Jake. I don't know about you, but I really like canal boats.

• 5:23Speaker 03

  I don't know, you get to Birmingham and you just get a little bit bloody.

• 5:26Speaker 04

  Bit.

• 5:27Speaker 03

  And you're taking things at a bit of a slower pace.

• 5:29Speaker 04

  A bit happier.

• 5:29Speaker 03

  A bit happier.

• 5:33Speaker 03

  Happier is so good. A little bit happier, happier. And then, oh, we've actually got one...

• 5:40Speaker 04

  We're still going up north, aren't we?

• 5:41Speaker 03

  We're going more up north now to Manchester. Manchester gets a little... Yeah, it's in the throat, like...

• 5:48Speaker 04

  I like drink.

• 5:50Speaker 03

  And then, if you move across... You can move either side of Manchester. You can move... Well, no, not either side, you'd move a little bit further.

• 5:57Speaker 04

  Whereabouts in Manchester are you from?

• 5:58Speaker 03

  Well, let's move over to Lees.

• 6:00Speaker 04

  Yeah. A bit of tea, mate.

• 6:03Speaker 03

  A little bit of Lees is a little bit more bouncier.

• 6:05Speaker 04

  Whereabouts in Lees? Skipton?

• 6:07Speaker 03

  It could be Skipton, it could be Headingly.

• 6:09Speaker 04

  Headingly?

• 6:09Speaker 03

  Headingly.

• 6:10Speaker 04

  Up near...

• 6:12Speaker 03

  Well, that's a one side at north, and then the other side at north is Scouse.

• 6:18Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 6:22Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 6:23Speaker 04

  Fuck. Fucking hell, Marla. Fuck off, Marla.

• 6:27Speaker 03

  I didn't know you could go so high.

• 6:29Speaker 04

  Fucking hell. You're packing in. Just pack it in, will you? I'm not having none of your fucking shit. Fucking shit, look up, shit you are. Eat your fucking dinner and fuck off, will you? Where are we going now?

• 6:44Speaker 03

  Now, we're moving closer to where our guest is from.

• 6:48Speaker 04

  So we're going way up to the Highlands.

• 6:50Speaker 03

  I was actually...

• 6:51Speaker 04

  I'll have my haggis on a silver plate.

• 6:54Speaker 03

  I was actually starting in Edinburgh, where the accent is softer and you could perhaps be a very famous newsreader.

• 6:59Speaker 04

  Oh, hello there. Hello there, children. Would you like to sit down and listen to a story with me, Mrs. Doubtfire?

• 7:07Speaker 03

  That's exactly it. And now you can go a little bit higher up.

• 7:10Speaker 04

  Fucking hell, toss me that cable, will you? I need to click my teeth with it, because I'm a giant fucking ogre.

• 7:15Speaker 03

  I haven't really had the patience for it.

• 7:16Speaker 04

  Fuck off, will you? Get out of my swamp. This is my swamp.

• 7:20Speaker 03

  Why do we both get quite gravelly with it?

• 7:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, is Maron in?

• 7:24Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 7:24Speaker 04

  Where's Maron?

• 7:25Speaker 03

  I haven't really seen her.

• 7:26Speaker 04

  Can she come out for a horse ride?

• 7:28Speaker 03

  I wouldn't have thought so, she's got work in the morning.

• 7:30Speaker 04

  Oh, has she? She's working, hasn't she?

• 7:32Speaker 03

  All right, now, we know the guest's not from Scotland. All right, we're going to come back down to where we were in the north-east of England, mate.

• 7:39Speaker 04

  We, eh, bit too...

• 7:40Speaker 03

  So, who could it be? We've got a lot of famous geordies, mate. We've got Alan Shearer, it's not him. We've got Alan Deck, it's neither of them.

• 7:48Speaker 04

  Neither.

• 7:49Speaker 03

  Neither or neither of them.

• 7:50Speaker 04

  Okay, then.

• 7:51Speaker 03

  We've got Scarlett Moffat, it's not her.

• 7:54Speaker 04

  Moffat.

• 7:54Speaker 03

  We've got the lad who does the Big Brother voiceover, it's not him.

• 7:58Speaker 04

  Dear 39 in the Big Brother house.

• 8:01Speaker 03

  It feels like, dear 59 of doing this intro.

• 8:07Speaker 03

  Right, three, two, one, it's Vicky Pattison, everybody.

• 8:12Speaker 04

  Vicky Pattison. So are we going to do the whole thing in...

• 8:16Speaker 03

  I think it's good we got that out of our system. Everyone in the UK got a little mention there. We didn't really need Nottingham.

• 8:23Speaker 04

  Nottingham doesn't have an accent.

• 8:25Speaker 03

  Well, those bits in the middle of places are quite hard. Yeah, what do you do?

• 8:28Speaker 04

  Northampton's not really an accent, is it?

• 8:31Speaker 03

  Thanks for buying all the tickets to the live tour of Northampton, that's really appreciated.

• 8:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's great.

• 8:37Speaker 03

  You didn't really touch on Northern Ireland, actually.

• 8:39Speaker 04

  Sit down.

• 8:40Speaker 03

  Perfect.

• 8:40Speaker 04

  Sit down, now, pack it in.

• 8:42Speaker 03

  Why does everyone... Why does every region request you to say "pack it in"? It doesn't matter where you are, it's always "pack it in." I don't know, what does that say about you? Other than West Country, which is quite nice, everyone else is like, "Pack it in, mate." Right, "Pack it in."

• 8:59Speaker 04

  No, if I was doing it in Birmingham, I'd go, "Jake..."

• 9:03Speaker 03

  Just stop doing what you're doing.

• 9:04Speaker 04

  "Please, could you pack it in?"

• 9:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, but still, they're packing it in, that's what I'm trying to get to. They're still packing it in.

• 9:10Speaker 04

  "Pack it up, pack it in, let me begin," you know?

• 9:15Speaker 03

  Right, we should begin, we should get Vicky in. Oh, I've run begin. And what accent does Janet have? I always forget.

• 9:25Speaker 03

  Fuck, two one.

• 9:33Speaker 04

  Don't speak to me like that, Janet. Honestly.

• 9:36Speaker 03

  No, I fucking will speak to you like that. Fuck you, one.

• 9:38Speaker 04

  Hello.

• 9:39Speaker 03

  Hello. Janet, can Vicky Pattison come in? Fuck, she can. Just finish her cup of tea. Bastard. Let her have a cuppa. Where are you from, Janet? I didn't know. How did you develop this accent?

• 9:53Speaker 04

  Hello, Janet.

• 9:54Speaker 03

  Hello, you alright?

• 9:55Speaker 04

  Could you please send in Vicky Pattison?

• 9:58Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, okay. Um, she's just got a cup of tea. Do you want her to finish it or not?

• 10:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, she's got her neck it.

• 10:05Speaker 03

  Alright, two seconds. Get that down, get that down, you gob, love. Alright? Alright, she's coming in now, mate.

• 10:10Speaker 04

  Thank you, Janet.

• 10:11Speaker 03

  Alright.

• 10:12Speaker 04

  Making people feel welcome.

• 10:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, alright. Well, you made me feel very welcome.

• 10:16Speaker 04

  Alright, pack it in.

• 10:17Speaker 03

  Pack it in, alright.

• 10:21Speaker 04

  Vicky Pattison, everybody!

• 10:24Speaker 06

  Hello, battle.

• 10:25Speaker 04

  Okay, yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure. Oh, right, okay. I didn't know what to do there. Uh, welcome, Vicky.

• 10:32Speaker 06

  Thank you for having us.

• 10:33Speaker 04

  It's lovely to see you.

• 10:34Speaker 06

  It's lovely to see you too.

• 10:35Speaker 04

  You look wonderful.

• 10:36Speaker 06

  So do you. Are you not sweating your tits off?

• 10:39Speaker 04

  Sweating my tits off?

• 10:40Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 10:40Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 10:41Speaker 06

  Yes, I feel like you, that is a very hot jacket for a very big man.

• 10:47Speaker 04

  Jake, this is Vicky. Vicky, this is Jake.

• 10:49Speaker 03

  Vicky, great to see you.

• 10:50Speaker 06

  Hi, it's so good to see you. I've been so excited to see you.

• 10:54Speaker 03

  Oh, don't say that, because I've been so excited to see you!

• 10:57Speaker 06

  I love your content so much!

• 10:59Speaker 03

  Say it again, clip it! Get it clipped!

• 11:02Speaker 04

  Let's test it. Do you have a specific bit of content you like, Jake?

• 11:06Speaker 03

  It's every, basically.

• 11:06Speaker 04

  Whoa, I'm asking Vicky. I'm testing whether this is legit.

• 11:10Speaker 06

  Um, basically, all of his Tudor stuff really tickles my pickle. But in particular, when he does the Henry VIII stag do's, I get full. I wish I was invited.

• 11:20Speaker 03

  You were invited?

• 11:21Speaker 06

  I could go.

• 11:22Speaker 03

  Oh my god, if you want to play Anne Boleyn in any video, that would be incredible.

• 11:26Speaker 04

  Why Anne Boleyn? Why Anne Boleyn?

• 11:29Speaker 06

  She was sassy.

• 11:29Speaker 03

  She was sassy, she was...

• 11:31Speaker 04

  Do you know your Henry VIII trivia, do you?

• 11:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, it is. It's like my hyperfixation.

• 11:36Speaker 03

  Oh my god, we do need to get into this. Anytime that you've ever commented, I've not played it cool at all. I've been like, "Yes, Vicky, thank you very much, Vicky, absolutely, Vicky." Vicky commented on stuff like, from the very start.

• 11:48Speaker 06

  I was an OG fan.

• 11:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When it was just my mum and her on my followers.

• 11:54Speaker 04

  It's a combination of the accent and my ears

• 11:56Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 11:57Speaker 04

  that I heard you say, "I'm an OG fan."

• 12:00Speaker 06

  Who says you heard wrong?

• 12:05Speaker 04

  But having had some time, I think you said OG.

• 12:07Speaker 06

  I did.

• 12:08Speaker 04

  But the accent said OG.

• 12:10Speaker 06

  We're gonna have some fun today then, aren't we?

• 12:13Speaker 04

  The first thing I ask every guest to do is an intake questionnaire.

• 12:17Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 12:18Speaker 04

  Are you ready to begin?

• 12:19Speaker 06

  Yeah, does everyone else feel nervous?

• 12:22Speaker 04

  As in, are you asking all of us in the room?

• 12:24Speaker 06

  Yeah, I can't know.

• 12:25Speaker 04

  What do you mean, the other people that have sat in your chair?

• 12:26Speaker 06

  Yes, the people who sit where I am, are they normally nervous?

• 12:30Speaker 04

  I would say, ev- I'd say eighty percent

• 12:35Speaker 06

  Yeah?

• 12:36Speaker 04

  give off a little bit of a nervy vibe.

• 12:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:39Speaker 04

  Because they don't know what's coming, and I, I...

• 12:42Speaker 03

  Well, it's gonna be a psychological examination. I think if you weren't nervous, that would suggest that maybe you are a psychopath, and you're not.

• 12:48Speaker 06

  Good, okay.

• 12:49Speaker 03

  Put it this way, Michael Ball wasn't nervous.

• 12:54Speaker 06

  This makes me feel better.

• 12:56Speaker 04

  Full name?

• 12:57Speaker 06

  Vicky Pattison.

• 12:58Speaker 04

  That's your full name?

• 12:59Speaker 06

  Yeah, I know.

• 13:00Speaker 04

  It's not Victoria?

• 13:01Speaker 06

  No, I think I was meant V Victoria, but my ma sent my dad to do it, and he'd had a couple of drinks, wetting the baby's head, and he could only spell Vicky. So...

• 13:10Speaker 06

  I'm just Vicky.

• 13:10Speaker 04

  And no middle name?

• 13:11Speaker 06

  No.

• 13:12Speaker 03

  If you could have one now, what would you throw in there?

• 13:14Speaker 06

  I think it would be something beginning with an I, so then technically I'd be VIP.

• 13:19Speaker 03

  Oh, that's lovely.

• 13:19Speaker 06

  I know. Bit nobby, but I'm gonna roll with it.

• 13:22Speaker 04

  Massively nobby.

• 13:23Speaker 03

  Massively, but that's nice.

• 13:24Speaker 06

  Oh, I feel like I'm already being judged.

• 13:26Speaker 04

  What's your star sign?

• 13:27Speaker 06

  Scorpio.

• 13:30Speaker 06

  Oh, okay. I don't like anything about it.

• 13:33Speaker 03

  Scorpio is the one star sign, I think, that always gets a "Ooh."

• 13:38Speaker 06

  We are profiled as bellends normally. But I just feel like it's because we've got this sting in what tail. Loyal as dogs, though.

• 13:45Speaker 03

  Do you have the thorny side to you? Because obviously, knowing you like I do over several comments on Instagram, you've always, you just seem so positive and so warm to everyone. Do you ever seek revenge on your enemies?

• 13:57Speaker 06

  Oh gosh, I'm so vengeful.

• 13:58Speaker 03

  Are you, Ellie? I thought you said it with such a big smile!

• 14:02Speaker 04

  I'm so vengeful.

• 14:03Speaker 03

  The best type.

• 14:04Speaker 06

  I love revenge. No, I'm so, I'm lovely and lovely and lovely until I'm pushed. Or until you do something to like someone I really love, who I think does need protecting. Like, I think I can look after myself, but like, my husband, for example, he is like, just the sweetest person, and if you want to wrong him in some way, woe betide you.

• 14:27Speaker 04

  Have you seen Lufa?

• 14:28Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 14:29Speaker 04

  There's a little bit of Alice about you.

• 14:32Speaker 06

  Okay, I'll take that.

• 14:34Speaker 04

  I, yeah. Yeah, I did stuff a gun in a dog.

• 14:40Speaker 04

  Do you know what I mean?

• 14:42Speaker 06

  I feel really seen, yeah.

• 14:44Speaker 04

  That's the scarier version. Occupation?

• 14:47Speaker 06

  Um, I wanna say like broadcaster, but maybe there's a little bit of reality TV, influencer, author vibes going on there. I don't know, I don't wanna sound smug. I do things.

• 15:03Speaker 04

  I do things?

• 15:04Speaker 06

  I do things.

• 15:05Speaker 04

  Um, multifaceted, talented artist?

• 15:08Speaker 06

  I would take that in a heartbeat. I thought you were gonna say jack of all trades, master of none. That was gonna make me sad.

• 15:15Speaker 04

  I was gonna say that, but I couldn't think of the saying.

• 15:21Speaker 04

  Drink of choice on a night to out?

• 15:23Speaker 06

  Blue W K D.

• 15:25Speaker 04

  What?

• 15:26Speaker 06

  Blue W K D.

• 15:28Speaker 03

  So you still like W K D now?

• 15:29Speaker 06

  Yes, I still have it in my fridge.

• 15:31Speaker 03

  But can I just, um, tell me if I'm being presumptuous, but I imagine the sorts of places you're going to

• 15:35Speaker 06

  They don't serve it.

• 15:36Speaker 03

  They don't really serve them now, because you're...

• 15:37Speaker 06

  It's very upsetting.

• 15:40Speaker 06

  I still ask for it.

• 15:41Speaker 03

  I imagine you're going to places that have white tablecloths.

• 15:43Speaker 06

  I do get some sassy looks. But I feel like I'll, I feel like you can take the girl out of Newcastle, but you can't take Newcastle out of the girl.

• 15:50Speaker 04

  No, you're right.

• 15:51Speaker 06

  And everything else I drink gives us a headache. Blue W K D, sound. Sometimes I take it with me, but this is because I feel like they won't have it.

• 16:00Speaker 03

  I was wondering what the clinking was in the bags when he came in. That's strange.

• 16:08Speaker 04

  When you love something, you're all in?

• 16:10Speaker 06

  Oh, yes.

• 16:11Speaker 04

  Like, it's not like half-assed?

• 16:12Speaker 06

  No.

• 16:13Speaker 04

  You're like, "I'm doing this a hundred percent, I'm into it." Yeah?

• 16:16Speaker 06

  Yes, I am quite obsessive.

• 16:20Speaker 04

  And you're not afraid to admit that those obsessions can get a little bit, you know, weird?

• 16:25Speaker 06

  And unhealthy? Yeah.

• 16:27Speaker 04

  That was your word?

• 16:28Speaker 06

  Fair enough. It is true.

• 16:31Speaker 04

  But we love that about you.

• 16:32Speaker 06

  You do?

• 16:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's been, it's been your point of difference. However, I want us to work on maybe having a little bit more of a measured lifestyle. You know, let's be less obsessive.

• 16:45Speaker 06

  Probably for the best.

• 16:46Speaker 04

  Maybe try and do things in moderation.

• 16:49Speaker 06

  It sounds so boring.

• 16:51Speaker 04

  Okay, not the most positive way to start the session.

• 16:54Speaker 06

  Sorry, yes, okay. Measured is good.

• 16:56Speaker 04

  Measured is good.

• 16:57Speaker 06

  Measured is good.

• 16:58Speaker 03

  It's hard to take the advice from someone who's built a fake doctor's office, dressed up as a fake doctor, and has fake doctor's sort of props everywhere, but we'll try.

• 17:09Speaker 04

  Thank you, Jake. My fake research assistant.

• 17:14Speaker 04

  How does it feel?

• 17:15Speaker 03

  It's not nice, is it?

• 17:16Speaker 04

  How does it feel to be called a fake research assistant?

• 17:18Speaker 03

  This is my livelihood.

• 17:21Speaker 04

  Um, right, shall we get started?

• 17:22Speaker 06

  Yes, please.

• 17:27Speaker 04

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• 17:31Speaker 03

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• 17:36Speaker 04

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• 18:18Speaker 03

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• 18:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:25Speaker 03

  Pleased to see you.

• 18:26Speaker 04

  No, you've nailed it.

• 18:27Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 18:27Speaker 04

  So whilst we're, whilst we're in the presence of Ancient and Brave, actually, that applies to anyone in the room.

• 18:32Speaker 03

  So, Mr. Ambassador?

• 18:34Speaker 04

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• 18:34Speaker 03

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• 18:37Speaker 04

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• 18:52Speaker 03

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• 18:55Speaker 04

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• 19:00Speaker 03

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• 19:01Speaker 04

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• 19:09Speaker 03

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• 19:23Speaker 04

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• 19:39Speaker 04

  Given that you're a truly all or nothing person.

• 19:41Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 19:42Speaker 04

  I've been doing some digging and I want to start with the stuff that I've discovered that you go proper mental for.

• 19:47Speaker 06

  Okay, hit me.

• 19:49Speaker 04

  Here's a quick roll call of some pretty intense stuff. Harry Potter.

• 19:56Speaker 06

  Yeah, I love that little specky bastard.

• 20:00Speaker 06

  I do.

• 20:01Speaker 04

  Is it true?

• 20:04Speaker 04

  Is it true?

• 20:07Speaker 04

  It's a clippers dream, isn't it?

• 20:09Speaker 03

  Oh man.

• 20:11Speaker 04

  There you go. Little specky bastard.

• 20:13Speaker 03

  All the magic in the world couldn't get contacts, could he?

• 20:15Speaker 04

  Did you?

• 20:17Speaker 03

  We've got laser eye, what have you got, repairo? Fuck it, hell.

• 20:22Speaker 04

  That is a fa- Isn't there a scene where he, who fixes his glasses?

• 20:26Speaker 06

  Hermione.

• 20:27Speaker 04

  Why, why?

• 20:29Speaker 03

  Hermione.

• 20:29Speaker 06

  Hermione.

• 20:31Speaker 04

  Why is there not, why don't you just go here, bog eyes, let's sort them?

• 20:34Speaker 03

  I don't know, I don't know. Well, at least Madame Pomfrey could have given it a go, but.

• 20:38Speaker 04

  Okay, so, why are you so obsessed with Harry Potter? Did you go as him to your hen do?

• 20:43Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 20:45Speaker 06

  I had like a hat and the glasses and a wand. I had a genuinely lovely time.

• 20:52Speaker 06

  Expecto Patronus! Oh, you're not a fan?

• 20:55Speaker 03

  What would your Patronus be?

• 20:57Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 20:57Speaker 03

  I'll take, I'll take this, Joe.

• 21:00Speaker 03

  I'm thinking, what would your Patronus be?

• 21:01Speaker 06

  I think like a doggy, like a Labrador.

• 21:03Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 21:05Speaker 04

  Is a Patronus like your spirit animal?

• 21:07Speaker 06

  Sort of babe, it's what happens. It's like a protection spell and whatever animal you courage. Honestly, only really good wizards can get one, so like, don't worry if you can't. But um.

• 21:17Speaker 03

  It's big squib energy, if you know what I mean. Come on.

• 21:23Speaker 03

  BSE, I call it.

• 21:24Speaker 06

  But yeah, when you, it like protects you from stuff and it takes the form of an animal. So Harry's takes the form of like his dad's and my aunt's, which is like really, it's actually heartbreaking if I'm honest. But I think mine would be a Labrador. What about yours, Jake? What do you?

• 21:38Speaker 03

  Um, I think maybe like a, maybe like a meerkat.

• 21:43Speaker 06

  I was gonna go otter for you.

• 21:44Speaker 03

  Were you really?

• 21:45Speaker 06

  Yeah, I was gonna go otter.

• 21:47Speaker 03

  I was, I was gonna go beaver as well.

• 21:53Speaker 03

  What house would you be in?

• 21:54Speaker 06

  Gryffindor, 110%.

• 21:56Speaker 04

  Hufflepuff.

• 21:57Speaker 06

  Excuse me?

• 21:58Speaker 03

  That's out of order, mate.

• 21:59Speaker 04

  I thought Huffle-

• 21:59Speaker 03

  You do not invite a guest onto this show and tell them that they would be in Hufflepuff.

• 22:03Speaker 04

  I thought.

• 22:04Speaker 03

  Might as well call them chopped liver.

• 22:06Speaker 04

  What?

• 22:06Speaker 03

  Spare part.

• 22:07Speaker 04

  No.

• 22:08Speaker 03

  Every other house has a personality. Ravenclaw, intelligent, studious. Gryffindor, brave. Slytherin, yes, can be evil, but known for be cunning. However, Hufflepuff, oh, we're loyal. We're loyal.

• 22:20Speaker 06

  Actually, they're just-

• 22:21Speaker 04

  Sorry, let me, let me refer back to Scorpio. Loyal as dogme.

• 22:27Speaker 06

  Um, no, but babe, Hufflepuff are just known for being the shit ones.

• 22:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, they are.

• 22:31Speaker 04

  I thought Hufflepuff is like, like happy, energy, buzzy.

• 22:34Speaker 03

  No, man.

• 22:35Speaker 04

  It's in the name, isn't it?

• 22:36Speaker 03

  No, no, no.

• 22:37Speaker 06

  No, they're-

• 22:38Speaker 03

  They're just there.

• 22:39Speaker 06

  They're one of squibs, man.

• 22:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:41Speaker 04

  Do you know what you two should do?

• 22:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:43Speaker 06

  Harry Potter podcast.

• 22:44Speaker 03

  I'd love to.

• 22:45Speaker 06

  And one step ahead.

• 22:45Speaker 03

  I'd love to do that.

• 22:46Speaker 04

  Do you wanna do it now? Like, let me come over there.

• 22:48Speaker 03

  I'd love to do that with you.

• 22:49Speaker 04

  Like, can we change the set and get some sort of wizard fuck? I'll be Hagrid in the corner, shall I?

• 22:54Speaker 03

  What?

• 22:55Speaker 06

  Good Hagrid.

• 22:58Speaker 04

  Go on.

• 22:58Speaker 03

  Oh, do you know what, no, do you know what's made me really sad? You don't know much about Harry Potter. You only know Hagrid because someone's called you Hagrid before. That's made me really sad.

• 23:07Speaker 06

  You'd be a brilliant Hagrid. He's one of my favourite characters.

• 23:10Speaker 03

  Can I just give you, can I just find, can I do a little personality test just based on, um, if you were to teach a, one of the subjects at the school, which would it be?

• 23:17Speaker 06

  Oh, I would either do... Transfiguration.

• 23:22Speaker 03

  Interesting.

• 23:22Speaker 06

  Or... Do you know what? I could be, I could do herbology.

• 23:28Speaker 03

  You could do herbology. It is a little bit of that. It's very outdoorsy.

• 23:32Speaker 06

  Hufflepuffy, I get what you're saying.

• 23:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, okay.

• 23:34Speaker 04

  Can you eat some of those mushrooms, will you?

• 23:36Speaker 03

  If you were to have a job in the wizarding world, what would, what would it be?

• 23:39Speaker 04

  Dealer.

• 23:40Speaker 06

  I'd be an Aurora.

• 23:41Speaker 04

  A what?

• 23:42Speaker 06

  Aurora.

• 23:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:48Speaker 06

  You're sick?

• 23:50Speaker 04

  The boy has come to die.

• 23:53Speaker 03

  Wow, Joe, that was brilliant.

• 23:57Speaker 06

  Get him a part in the new series.

• 23:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:00Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 24:01Speaker 04

  Uh, what's the deal with Lewis Capaldi, mate?

• 24:04Speaker 06

  Oh. Hasn't he, hasn't he just got a fucking voice of an angel though? And I feel like he's proper one of us. Like, he's never changed, he's never gone all Hollywood, like, he's never forgot his roots. He's just normal and honest and raw and vulnerable. And I actually messaged him once and asked if he'd sing at my wedding.

• 24:23Speaker 04

  And he did?

• 24:24Speaker 06

  He replied. I told him he could shag any of the bridesmaids. Then he stopped replying.

• 24:32Speaker 04

  So that, it was the bridesmaid shagging that put him off?

• 24:35Speaker 06

  Well, I felt like we were just like, having such a good rapport.

• 24:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:38Speaker 06

  And I was like, listen mate, what is it gonna take for me to get you singing at me wedding? And he was like, you know, like, taking a bit, a little bit. And then I was like, you're gonna shag any of me bridesmaids? And then the conversation was over. And I, maybe that's the DM I regret.

• 24:57Speaker 04

  I do have to say that my, I'm gonna have to echo, are you all right there?

• 25:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:02Speaker 04

  I'm gonna have to echo.

• 25:03Speaker 03

  One of you is shagging him, mate.

• 25:04Speaker 04

  Your love for Lewis Capaldi.

• 25:06Speaker 06

  Do you feel the same way?

• 25:07Speaker 04

  I fucking love him. Like, I cannot get enough of him. He's incredible and for all the reasons that you've said as well. He's just normal, but he's got an abnormally incredible voice.

• 25:18Speaker 06

  And the words he writes too.

• 25:20Speaker 04

  Oh, he's fucking brilliant.

• 25:22Speaker 03

  And if he wants to come on the show, he'd be very welcome.

• 25:24Speaker 06

  Don't offer him to shag anybody.

• 25:26Speaker 04

  Um, you've claimed to be a workaholic.

• 25:28Speaker 06

  I do like to work.

• 25:29Speaker 04

  What's that based on? Like...

• 25:32Speaker 06

  I don't know.

• 25:32Speaker 04

  Is it based on fear?

• 25:33Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 25:34Speaker 04

  Is it based on if you, how, how do you find sitting still and just...

• 25:40Speaker 04

  Being?

• 25:41Speaker 06

  Do you need me to answer that question?

• 25:44Speaker 04

  Legally, yes, I do need to.

• 25:45Speaker 06

  Okay. I really struggle with sitting still. Um, it gives me, like, I feel itchy. I feel itchy when I'm sitting still. I just wanna touch stuff and like do other things and walk about. I don't know, I feel like, maybe I have nervous energy, but also as well, like, I feel...

• 26:07Speaker 06

  I feel guilty when I sit still for too long. Like, I'm so grateful I've got this life and I'm aware it could go, like, in a second. So I, I feel like if I get complacent or I don't go a million miles an hour, then somebody else will do my job better and everyone will forget I exist.

• 26:25Speaker 04

  That was really, not deep, but like, yeah, it was a little bit deep.

• 26:30Speaker 06

  I know.

• 26:30Speaker 04

  And gave an insight as to why you do probably say yes to everything or you do have to, or want to stay ahead of the curve all the time and be front and centre because you're panicking that it's just gonna go.

• 26:42Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 26:43Speaker 04

  But isn't that exhausting for you?

• 26:44Speaker 06

  Yeah, I'm very tired. I get loads of Botox.

• 26:52Speaker 06

  Oh, I know.

• 26:53Speaker 04

  Where does that, has that always been the case though?

• 26:57Speaker 06

  I think like when you come from sort of the start in the industry that I did, which was quite a controversial TV show and nobody ever really thought I'd probably that into anything with any sort of longevity. I think there's that desire to prove everybody wrong. But like more than that, like, there's that fear that everything everyone said about you probably is right.

• 27:23Speaker 06

  And that makes me work really hard. It's probably being fueled by spite, which is not the healthiest motivation.

• 27:30Speaker 04

  It's not, but I'm, I'm with you on that. Like, so many times across my life when I've been told I can't do something or, uh, I don't deserve, or so it, it actually, I'm grateful to those people, those moments in a way that I go, no, I'm gonna fucking put two fingers up to you.

• 27:50Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 27:51Speaker 04

  And prove you wrong. So it's actually like, even though it's a weird thing, you'd love it to be driven by-

• 27:58Speaker 06

  Something more healthy.

• 27:59Speaker 04

  More healthy and, you know, love and pure, like, something more pure like that. But ultimately if, it's getting to where, it's getting you to where you wanna be. Do you know what I mean? As long as the outcome's working for you, it's like...

• 28:14Speaker 06

  Can't be too disparaging about it because I love me life now. So I'm never too like, you know, the motivation is what it is, but yeah, there would, there are part of me that wished it was fueled by something slightly less revengey.

• 28:29Speaker 04

  Does, does also, is there a part of like, the obsession with things like, the, the speed at which you two went into Harry Potter obsessives just fucking blew my mind. Is it because you wanna be the, the biggest fan? You know, a bit like what you said, oh, I wanna work loads, I wanna do this loads because I wanna be the number one at my job and I don't want my job taken away. And then that's obviously part of all of your life. It's like, I wanna be the biggest Harry Potter fan. I wanna be the biggest Lewis Capaldi fan. I wanna be the biggest fan of Jake Bhardwaj's content creation on his Instagram.

• 29:06Speaker 03

  And you could be too. Jake Bhardwaj TV, Instagram.

• 29:10Speaker 06

  Do you know what I think it comes from? I think I get obsessed with things that mean something to me. So for example, Harry Potter means something to me because it's about a little boy who, like, probably nobody, like, he didn't have a lot and had a really hard time and nobody thought, especially not the Dursleys. And that anything was going to like-

• 29:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, fuck you, Dursleys.

• 29:32Speaker 03

  Vernon, if you're listening, fuck you.

• 29:34Speaker 06

  Yeah, and do you know what puts you in here as well? You're a slag.

• 29:39Speaker 03

  So is it the same with anything that you care about? Anything that means something to you?

• 29:43Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 29:43Speaker 03

  Becomes the obsession?

• 29:45Speaker 06

  I have a real issue with loving things like a normal amount. I feel things really intensely.

• 29:55Speaker 06

  And yeah, it's a bit of an issue. Like, I love my friends that much.

• 30:00Speaker 04

  But who gets to decide what's normal?

• 30:02Speaker 06

  Yeah, is that you?

• 30:05Speaker 04

  Is it me that gets to decide? I fucking hope not, no. But what I'm saying is, you say, oh, I love things intensely.

• 30:12Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 30:13Speaker 04

  You know, not a normal amount. It's like, well, but who's decided that only hugging your partner three times a day is a normal amount, anything over that, do you know what I mean?

• 30:21Speaker 06

  It's subjective, isn't it?

• 30:23Speaker 04

  That is one of my favourite words.

• 30:25Speaker 06

  Is it?

• 30:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, because I think it means if someone says anything that you don't agree with,

• 30:32Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 30:32Speaker 04

  you can just say, hmm, subjective. And it makes you sound clever, but also means... What does it mean?

• 30:41Speaker 03

  I think it's just up to...

• 30:41Speaker 04

  It's an opinion.

• 30:42Speaker 03

  It's up to, yeah, it's up to the person.

• 30:43Speaker 04

  Up to...

• 30:44Speaker 06

  Sort of like a scale, isn't it? Like, you can love things however much you want, and who's to say who's right?

• 30:50Speaker 04

  What do the people closest to you think about your obsessive behaviour?

• 30:54Speaker 06

  I think my husband and my sister and my family would prefer I had a bit more of a healthy sort of like work-life balance. Like, if I'm working, I'm very much like doing the 18-hour days, I'm coming back exhausted, you know, I'm giving it me all and blah, blah, blah. But if I'm... And I think maybe there should be more like living life, more enjoying in there. But then don't get us wrong, because when I'm not at work, I'm fucking not at work as well, if you know what I mean.

• 31:25Speaker 03

  How long can you be not at work before you start thinking about work again, though?

• 31:28Speaker 06

  Three days.

• 31:29Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 31:29Speaker 06

  Yeah, I get three days.

• 31:30Speaker 03

  You know, it's three days?

• 31:31Speaker 06

  Yeah, I get three days before I start to be like checking the Instagram again, messaging my agent, you know, is that job in? I've just seen so-and-so's got that job. How did she get that job?

• 31:41Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 31:42Speaker 06

  I get quite crazy.

• 31:43Speaker 03

  Who is she and what was the job?

• 31:46Speaker 04

  Really good.

• 31:47Speaker 06

  Nice try.

• 31:49Speaker 04

  Well, yeah, but there's a, I guess there's a fine balance between taking control of your career and what you wanna do.

• 31:56Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 31:57Speaker 04

  And then obsessing over it to gain revenge or fuck up things for other people. I struggle with that on a daily basis.

• 32:05Speaker 06

  It's a very difficult line to walk, Joe.

• 32:07Speaker 03

  And Vicky's been very generous, sort of talking about her obsessions. Joe's, what are your obsessions, if you have any?

• 32:15Speaker 04

  Uh, I could relate to the like, the intense love bit with like, especially my wife and kids.

• 32:22Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 32:23Speaker 04

  Where I'm like, oh, I love them intensely. And I think, you know, squash. Yeah, it's, I, you know, and sometimes Maggie, my 10-year-old girl, she gets a little bit worried when I go, oh, I love you so much, I wanna pop your head off. And she's like, that's kind.

• 32:40Speaker 06

  Calm down, Lenny.

• 32:41Speaker 04

  But, yeah.

• 32:43Speaker 04

  But, but looking at you, Dad, you probably could, so I'd just, I'd just like you to like bring it back a little bit.

• 32:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:51Speaker 04

  And I go, yeah, you're right, Mags, I'll stop, it's fine. So there is that intense love feeling that I get.

• 32:59Speaker 04

  The obsession with, I go through phases. Like, I bought like 10 paddling pools. Well, the kid, it was lockdown summer, it was incredible. And I was like, oh, we'll get him a paddling pool. And then I was like, oh, actually, I'm gonna make like a mini like water park in the garden.

• 33:16Speaker 06

  Whale bobs.

• 33:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, so we had different areas. We had like the dinosaur corner, we had like pirate town, we had like the one in the middle that had like a little slide going into it. There was fucking loads, one with a little like volleyball net. And I was, and I'd bought, um, I bought a big AstroTurf as well, didn't have it like laid or anything, probably just a roll of it, I put it out so that it wouldn't get muddy feet in and out of the water. Where I filled them all up, getting it all ready. They put one fucking foot in it and they went, it's freezing. I went, it's the hottest day of the year, I've built you a water park in your garden.

• 33:56Speaker 03

  There's a host bike band, I've said fuck that off.

• 34:00Speaker 04

  There, there wasn't at the time, no.

• 34:03Speaker 04

  And they said it's too cold. And I went, fuck.

• 34:06Speaker 03

  Oh, no, all that effort.

• 34:08Speaker 04

  All that effort, so then like the following, I bought a hot tub.

• 34:11Speaker 06

  Oh, right.

• 34:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:13Speaker 03

  So what, but what did you do with your water park? Were you just like going to pirate town by yourself?

• 34:17Speaker 04

  Oh, I'll get, I'll get the picture for you, but there was a picture of me sat in the pirate ship on my own with a bandana on like, anyone, anyone wanna play with me or what? They're like, nah, we're all right. I'm like, fuck's sake. So I get quite intense with that sort of it, and then I snap out of it, but, um...

• 34:36Speaker 06

  So you can relate to a certain extent.

• 34:38Speaker 04

  I can relate, but I think the older I'm getting, the less, actually, I guess the tider I'm getting, less I've got the energy to obsess over stuff. I'm like, fucking hell, move on, next one, so I'm pretty fine.

• 34:54Speaker 06

  I, I hear that. I think the fact that you have like a little family, like children and stuff, like it, you're, obviously, you're smashing your career, you're a family man, you're, you have more things to, to split your time over, your focus, you know? Whereas me and my husband don't have kids yet. We have two rescue labradors, which honestly, I couldn't love anymore unless I, like, even if I had birthed them, but I didn't. But yeah, I think like maybe when I do, fingers crossed, become a mam, um, then I will have less time to be obsessed about things that, you know, potentially aren't as important.

• 35:29Speaker 04

  Hmm, because you'll become obsessed with them and...

• 35:32Speaker 06

  I'll go full Lenny.

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  The Mazda CX50 Hybrid comes standard with a suite of proactive safety features, so you can drive in peace and confidence wherever the road takes you. Mazda, tap the banner to discover how confidence comes standard. Consumer Reports does not endorse products or services. Visit mazdausa.com to learn more. Vicky, as part of my research, I have discovered that you are a big supporter, proponent of manifestation.

• 37:19Speaker 06

  Yes, I love it. Correct.

• 37:21Speaker 03

  And for people who might be listening or watching that don't know what manifestation is, what does it mean for you?

• 37:26Speaker 06

  Oh, I'm certainly no expert, but I believe it's like essentially the visualization of your goals.

• 37:32Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 37:33Speaker 06

  Um, and, you know, the hope and the actioning that they come to fruition. So everyone can say like, oh, I, you know, I really wanna get that job, or I really wanna get a new car, or I really wanna be a bad, whatever it is, you know, whatever your goals are specific to you. But like, manifestation is like almost believing them into existence with the help of actioning, obviously. I like to do a vision board every, like, between every Christmas and New Year. I sit around with my husband and we cut out loads of pictures from magazines or photographs or whatever, and we plan what we want our next year, 18 months to look like. And about five years ago, I made one, and then I looked back on it last year, and it

• 38:14Speaker 06

  was absolutely so like beautiful and lovely to see how many things I'd managed to, to tick off, to achieve, you know? So I'm, I'm a big fan. I'm certainly not an expert, and I know some people probably find it woo-woo, but yeah, I do, I do believe in it.

• 38:29Speaker 04

  My only experience of manifestation has been occasionally on the golf course.

• 38:34Speaker 06

  Wanting to get like a hole-in-one or something?

• 38:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, when I was like there, I'd go, right, manifestate, manifestate, manifestate a straight shot, manifestate a thingy. And then sometimes it would do that, and I'd go, oh my God, that was the manifestation.

• 38:45Speaker 06

  Manifestation queen, clock it.

• 38:49Speaker 04

  I don't think I've ever done that, but maybe I should do that more.

• 38:52Speaker 06

  Clock it.

• 38:52Speaker 04

  But then I'll be saying, manifestate, manifestate, be straight.

• 38:55Speaker 03

  And you think, should I just say manifest?

• 38:59Speaker 04

  All that, yeah. I think manifestate is actually the old Latin way.

• 39:03Speaker 06

  I do, yes.

• 39:04Speaker 04

  Uh, of saying manifest or manifestation. Would, would, would my research assistant like to look that up?

• 39:11Speaker 03

  Is manifestate, is manifestate a word? It is a real word, however, it's less common, more used as part of the old Latin of manifest. Wow.

• 39:23Speaker 06

  That one's really exciting.

• 39:24Speaker 03

  Hubba, hubba.

• 39:25Speaker 06

  That was a clapback, Joe.

• 39:26Speaker 03

  Is there a goal, Joe, that you have that maybe Vicky could help talk you through how you might manifestate it?

• 39:35Speaker 04

  I'm trying to think what I, what I, what I want. Oh, maybe we could like manifestate a, a, a guest. You've got fucking loads of contacts in the world, haven't you?

• 39:45Speaker 06

  Yes, I do have, um, some friends. Like, do you, is it Duncan Vanatine you want? I could hook you up with him.

• 39:50Speaker 03

  I'm out, sorry, but.

• 39:53Speaker 04

  No, like, yeah.

• 39:55Speaker 06

  So who do you want?

• 39:57Speaker 04

  Uh, I don't make the choices like Jake, who should we get?

• 39:59Speaker 06

  Who do you want?

• 40:00Speaker 03

  I know who I want, you should pick one. I, for me, I would love Natalie Cassidy to come on.

• 40:05Speaker 06

  Oh, she would a hundred and times send come on. I work with her for Marks and Spencer's.

• 40:09Speaker 03

  Done, there we go.

• 40:09Speaker 04

  Oh my gosh, you manifested that and it worked.

• 40:13Speaker 03

  No, you try, no, you try.

• 40:14Speaker 06

  She's the best. Who do you want?

• 40:16Speaker 03

  This wasn't really meant to be about Vicky's contacts book, by the way. This is more meant to be like, can we, can we visualize it? Pick someone, pick someone who she won't necessarily know.

• 40:25Speaker 06

  Are we still sticking with Adele?

• 40:26Speaker 04

  Adele.

• 40:26Speaker 03

  Adele, okay, perfect.

• 40:27Speaker 06

  Bearing in mind, I'm pretty sure Adele got asked to sing at like Princess Kate and William's wedding or something. And she cut, she said no because she was going to a pal's barbecue. I really don't think I have.

• 40:41Speaker 04

  We could put on a barbie in here.

• 40:42Speaker 06

  Yeah, we could.

• 40:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:44Speaker 04

  Hang on, if we manifestate it.

• 40:46Speaker 06

  We can manifestate it. So how I manifested getting on Strictly was I, I cut out a picture of Gemma Atkinson doing Strictly and stuck my head on her body.

• 40:57Speaker 06

  So you need to get a picture of a barbecue and then a picture of Adele and stick Adele in the barbecue picture. And then stick a picture of you doing a sausage on the barbecue picture as well. And then also like have some like podcasty bits too. So it's like a barbecue, come podcast. And then once you put that on your vision board, Bob's your uncle, Fanny's your aunt, Keith's your long lost cousin from Perth, Adele will be sitting here with a banger and doing your podcast in no time.

• 41:26Speaker 03

  Who's got a pretty stick?

• 41:32Speaker 04

  We are just taking a quick break to deliver an important message from our friends at the Refund Club.

• 41:40Speaker 03

  Joe, I've got a theory that you can get a lot done in a minute.

• 41:43Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 41:43Speaker 03

  A lot done.

• 41:44Speaker 04

  Did you?

• 41:44Speaker 03

  Agree or disagree?

• 41:45Speaker 04

  Did you come up with that?

• 41:46Speaker 03

  Agree or disagree?

• 41:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, I agree.

• 41:48Speaker 03

  Agree, agree.

• 41:49Speaker 04

  I agree.

• 41:50Speaker 03

  Good, I'm glad you agree.

• 41:51Speaker 04

  I don't want to talk about it.

• 41:52Speaker 03

  Okay, well, let me, I want to put it to the test then. I want to put it to the test. How many pints of water do you think you could down in a minute?

• 42:00Speaker 04

  Don't like water.

• 42:01Speaker 03

  What do you prefer?

• 42:02Speaker 04

  I, I prefer milk because water would hydrate me and I prefer to be chronically dehydrated.

• 42:08Speaker 03

  You tolerate lactose, big time?

• 42:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:11Speaker 03

  Big time?

• 42:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, big time and I'm proud of it.

• 42:14Speaker 03

  Okay, fine.

• 42:14Speaker 04

  But it's also not knocking anyone who can't tolerate it.

• 42:17Speaker 03

  No, not knocking anyone. Altering, altering the question then, how many pints of milk could you get down you in a minute?

• 42:22Speaker 04

  Loads.

• 42:23Speaker 03

  Put a number on it.

• 42:26Speaker 04

  Between one and five.

• 42:28Speaker 03

  Four?

• 42:31Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 42:32Speaker 03

  Four pints of milk in one minute?

• 42:34Speaker 04

  A hundred.

• 42:34Speaker 03

  Bring out the milk, everybody! And just like that, the milk has appeared magically on your desk. My little goodness me. You're gonna drink those four pints of milk. Meanwhile, I'm gonna talk about our wonderful friends at the Refund Club. Are you ready?

• 42:48Speaker 04

  No.

• 42:48Speaker 03

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• 43:33Speaker 03

  This is, this is incredible. I feel like you're gonna need a wee quite quickly. I'm worried about your bladder. You used to play for England. Look at this man's career. He's just finished the final pint of milk in one minute. Unbelievable. Joe, bring it home.

• 43:52Speaker 04

  Go to refundclub.co.uk/mala. That's refundclub.co.uk/mala to do your free check.

• 44:03Speaker 03

  For the audio listener, that was four pints of actual milk.

• 44:05Speaker 04

  I feel a bit sticky.

• 44:11Speaker 04

  Right, we've talked a lot about the fun sides of obsession.

• 44:16Speaker 06

  Mm-hmm.

• 44:17Speaker 04

  Um, but living life at a hundred percent can sometimes get a little bit, as you've mentioned, exhausting.

• 44:25Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 44:25Speaker 04

  Or tricky. Has there been any times in your life where your all or nothing obsessions have got you into difficult situations?

• 44:35Speaker 06

  Um, I'd say so. I mean, obviously I think it's a really good moment to sort of say, I'm hardly down the fucking mines. Like, I'm, I live a very nice life, I'm very grateful for the job I love and all the rest of it. But I've worked myself to burnout and exhaustion sometimes. And that's quite difficult for your family and friends to see, you know? I just don't know how to take me foot off the gas, Joe.

• 44:58Speaker 03

  A lot of people, I think, hear the word burnout, but they don't really know what it me, because it's different for everyone else. When you feel like you're actually hitting that, not just tired, because I think there's a difference between feeling, oh, I'm tired because I had a long day.

• 45:12Speaker 06

  Are you being that bad?

• 45:13Speaker 03

  I feel tired on a deep level to my core. What, how does burnout feel for you?

• 45:17Speaker 06

  Well, exactly like you say, it manifests itself very differently for everybody. But for me, I go into a state of complete disassociation.

• 45:24Speaker 03

  Oh, wow.

• 45:25Speaker 06

  Um, so nothing that brings me, it normally brings me joy, seeing me friends, seeing me family, even doing like a cute little post on Instagram, like I get a little dopamine hit off that, I'm a sad cow. But like, when I hit that point of burnout, nothing brings me joy.

• 45:40Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 45:41Speaker 06

  So I disassociate, I lie on the sofa, I doom scroll. I struggle to even like get up to brush me teeth though, you know? Things that have so much meaning and bring so much joy and excitement to my life fail to have anything anymore.

• 45:55Speaker 03

  Your body's saying, you're not fucking doing any of it.

• 45:56Speaker 06

  You're done, it's your body saying you're done. And I try so hard not to push myself to there. But like, you know, when there's amazing things coming in that Vicky from 15 years ago, never thought you'd get or never thought you deserved, it's really hard to say no.

• 46:10Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 46:11Speaker 06

  So yeah, I do often get there. And that's not a nice place for me, that's not a nice person for my husband to be married to, is it?

• 46:16Speaker 04

  I, I hear exactly where you're coming from. And it wasn't too long ago that I would describe what I was going through as a, as a bit of a burnout and a bit of meltdown as well. And it was because I was saying yes to everything in the pursuit of a goal that I'd set myself or a need that I had to like do everything, can capitalize and, and make the most of it all.

• 46:41Speaker 04

  Um, and just never stopping.

• 46:44Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 46:45Speaker 04

  And then it is completely different to being tired. You're just like mentally just frazzled.

• 46:51Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 46:51Speaker 04

  And I just retract. You lot have experienced it, I just, I don't reply on any.

• 46:57Speaker 03

  As well is, oh, you know, you say all that and it's like, wow, you're going through all that and then add, add it on to the end, oh, and then my husband or whoever that person close to you, I'm such a, I'm not the best person to be around, oh, no, I'm such an asshole to be around. Adding that on there as well as all the other stuff you're feeling and then saying, oh, and also I'm a prick as well, or also I'm a right dick to be around. That, that's just like, that's just compounding that, that negative feeling, probably disassociating yourself more.

• 47:21Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 47:22Speaker 04

  But I think there's also, like you just mentioned, you go, oh, Vicky from 15 years ago wouldn't, you, you can't say no to these opportunities because she wouldn't have been given them then and you need to be grateful for it. But then it's, I guess you've got to assess what is giving you the validation in your life, do you know what I mean?

• 47:43Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 47:44Speaker 04

  Is being the front of 10 different TV shows your goal and what, what you want to do? If it is, then yeah, you are gonna have to say yes to all these opportunities. If other things are, are what you pursue more, then you've got to have the courage to then go, I'm, I'm gonna say no to that. It's like the power, I've, I've, I tried reading a book, it's like the power to say no or something like that.

• 48:10Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 48:11Speaker 04

  And I go, well, I say no quite a lot, don't I?

• 48:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't think you need to read, of all the books, if you're gonna read one book, Joe.

• 48:15Speaker 06

  No, he wrote it.

• 48:16Speaker 03

  It's the one you sort of, sort of got nailed, yeah. Yes Man would have been better.

• 48:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think that's the point at which you go, oh, why am I saying yes to it? What am I saying yes for? If, if it's based on, oh, I don't want someone else to get it, or I don't want someone else to have that opportunity, then you're probably doing it for the wrong reasons, do you know what I mean?

• 48:37Speaker 06

  That would be vindictive. And I know I joked about being vengeful, but I'm certainly not vindictive. I think it comes from the place where I actually believe I am still that girl from 15 years ago and I don't deserve anything.

• 48:52Speaker 06

  Does anyone have a cry on here?

• 48:55Speaker 06

  I'm sorry.

• 48:56Speaker 04

  I, I don't think we have had a cry out with makeup.

• 49:00Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 49:00Speaker 04

  And that's why I haven't prepped any tissues.

• 49:03Speaker 06

  That's okay, I can, I can.

• 49:04Speaker 04

  This is a safe space. And I will say, um, but you do deserve it because you earned it. You're like, you say, oh, I still don't, and I, I do get that. And Jake, you've experienced this, when I tell you about this imposter syndrome, this feel that I don't know how I've done some of the stuff I've done or thing, but, but you have, you have done it. It's like, the evidence is there. You, you're not Vicky who's come from like fuck all and then got onto a reality show and then people go, oh, she'll never make anything of her, like stay at that Geordie Charlotte, fuck them all, blah, blah. And then you've gone and proved them all wrong. Like, that's your evidence, enough evidence to be like, I am enough and I do deserve to have these opportunities.

• 49:50Speaker 04

  Like.

• 49:51Speaker 06

  You're so nice.

• 49:53Speaker 04

  What?

• 49:53Speaker 06

  You're so nice.

• 49:55Speaker 04

  Thanks.

• 49:56Speaker 06

  Can I give you a hug?

• 49:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, sure. It's a nice moment there, isn't it? Yeah, great, yeah.

• 50:02Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 50:05Speaker 04

  Okay, with that in mind, do you actually feel being the all or nothing person, the fact that you do give it a hundred percent, can actually be viewed more of as a superpower as well?

• 50:18Speaker 06

  Like, I love that when I'm locked in, I mean, you know, and I can be doing a million things in a day and get them all done and, you know, my concentration doesn't dip. I don't worry about everyone gets the best version of me. Like, when I'm on that top form, I love that version of me. I feel like fucking Bradley Cooper when he took that drug in limitless. I feel like him and I'm like, I am better than everyone. But then what goes up must come down. And I just feel like if I could find a sort of way to be that version of myself that's, you know, bright and shiny and what I know everyone wants from us. But also like, right before I get to that like really scary burnt out place

• 51:02Speaker 06

  where I can't give anyone anything, I'd like to stop it just like a little bit before. And just practice, I don't know, a bit of self-care. People do that, right?

• 51:10Speaker 03

  You are doing so many things and we talked about burnout or work, but I don't think we've actually asked you, if and when you do relax, what is relaxation?

• 51:21Speaker 06

  So, yeah, good question. And relaxation looks like very similar to bed rotting for me. And so I, even though my life is like fast and has loads of lovely people in it, like when I wanna relax, it is my husband and my dogs at home and literally just watching

• 51:41Speaker 06

  the Tudors or something.

• 51:42Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 51:43Speaker 06

  I like a period drama.

• 51:45Speaker 03

  Gosh, I am your relaxation technique. That is crazy.

• 51:49Speaker 06

  I like a crime show. I like chocolate.

• 51:51Speaker 04

  I know why you wanted to ask this question.

• 51:53Speaker 03

  I know you like chocolate, I know you like chocolate, Vicky, but enough about me. What do you, what do you do to relax?

• 51:59Speaker 06

  I like doing very little. It's safe to say, yeah.

• 52:02Speaker 04

  Is that, is that what you would recommend to anyone that like can relate to that all or nothing personality in themselves? That you do have to, you can't be on the go all the time. We've spoken about that burnout will creep up on you. You have to make the effort, which is weird because you're like, oh, hang on, I'm sick and tired of making effort. But you have to make the effort to give yourself some time as well.

• 52:26Speaker 06

  Yeah, I had this life coach who, bless his heart, desperately tried to unpack my brain. And he sort of said like, when you're going a million miles an hour and you're having those like really exciting, big, busy days, like you have to number your days. So on the days that are like a million miles an hour and, you know, you're here, there and everywhere, photo shooting in the morning, filming in the afternoon, event at the night time, they're like your number one days. And then you have like number two days, which like, you know, maybe you're just going to film and then you get to go home. And then you have your number three days, which are just like business meeting, business meeting, business meeting. But the thing is like, unless you also include your number four days, which are days just at home with the dogs or with your husband or whatever relaxation looks like you,

• 53:12Speaker 06

  you will never be able to do your number one days unless you have your number four. So I desperately try to have an amalgamation of those and, and mix things in and, and you know, rest before I do reach burnout. But sometimes like I said, it's easier said than done when life's just this crazy conveyor belt, isn't it?

• 53:35Speaker 04

  I think we can all agree that a life of moderation isn't for you.

• 53:41Speaker 06

  It's not my jam.

• 53:42Speaker 04

  Don't think you have the ability to just dip a toe in, do you?

• 53:47Speaker 06

  No.

• 53:47Speaker 04

  It's like, put my whole fucking feet in there.

• 53:50Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 53:51Speaker 04

  Pencil jump it.

• 53:54Speaker 06

  Oh, I didn't shave.

• 53:59Speaker 04

  What does that mean?

• 53:59Speaker 06

  I didn't shave my armpits, so they're hair.

• 54:01Speaker 04

  Who gives a fuck?

• 54:02Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 54:03Speaker 04

  Better.

• 54:04Speaker 06

  Yay!

• 54:05Speaker 04

  Um, and you just jump all in, the whole hog?

• 54:08Speaker 06

  I do.

• 54:08Speaker 04

  Okay, so your final exercise is gonna test your biggest weakness.

• 54:13Speaker 06

  Oh, gosh.

• 54:14Speaker 04

  Knowing when to stop.

• 54:17Speaker 04

  When enough is enough. Okay?

• 54:20Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 54:21Speaker 04

  I've got a selection of things randomly placed in my drawers. Chest of drawers.

• 54:27Speaker 03

  Better.

• 54:27Speaker 06

  Better.

• 54:31Speaker 03

  Much better.

• 54:32Speaker 04

  Your challenge is simple.

• 54:34Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 54:35Speaker 04

  You have to enjoy them without going all in.

• 54:38Speaker 06

  Oh, but are they really good things?

• 54:41Speaker 04

  Just moderation, that is all you're allowed, of some of, I believe, your favourite things.

• 54:49Speaker 06

  If it's Blue W K D, I'm chewing it.

• 54:52Speaker 04

  Fucking hell, why didn't they get Blue W K D?

• 54:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's a big fuck off.

• 54:55Speaker 04

  Jake, you're the research assistant.

• 54:57Speaker 03

  Sorry about that.

• 54:58Speaker 04

  Fuck's sake, are you ready?

• 54:59Speaker 06

  I am ready.

• 55:00Speaker 04

  Let's begin. Just got to check my drawers.

• 55:02Speaker 06

  Okay, start it anyway.

• 55:04Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 55:06Speaker 06

  Oh, I already like the sound of this. I feel like it's buttons. Is it buttons?

• 55:10Speaker 04

  It is buttons.

• 55:11Speaker 06

  I love buttons!

• 55:12Speaker 03

  Just one chocolate button.

• 55:15Speaker 06

  That's fucking outrageous.

• 55:17Speaker 03

  Can she do it?

• 55:17Speaker 06

  That, just one, no.

• 55:19Speaker 04

  There's an entire pack of Cadbury's chocolate buttons.

• 55:22Speaker 03

  Oh, you're very welcome to have the pack, Vicky, but you'd have failed the challenge.

• 55:28Speaker 06

  Nobody needs just one button.

• 55:32Speaker 04

  Look at all those buttons.

• 55:34Speaker 03

  Look at all those buttons.

• 55:35Speaker 04

  Vicky, I would not like you to fail at the first hurdle.

• 55:40Speaker 06

  They smell so good.

• 55:41Speaker 04

  One button.

• 55:42Speaker 03

  One button.

• 55:44Speaker 06

  Oh, can you smell them?

• 55:45Speaker 04

  Do not sniff my buttons.

• 55:46Speaker 06

  Okay, fine.

• 55:49Speaker 03

  The real challenge comes off you to have the first.

• 55:59Speaker 06

  Oh, chocolate's so fucking good, man. And if you're meant to just have one, why the fuck would they do a big share bag?

• 56:07Speaker 04

  You think it's their fault that you have more than one? Because they don't make them into single packet?

• 56:15Speaker 06

  Well, yeah, sandwiches just come in one pack, don't they? Because you're just meant to have one.

• 56:19Speaker 03

  So true.

• 56:20Speaker 04

  Okay, okay, you've done well.

• 56:22Speaker 06

  If I was at home, just so you know, I would have walloped pretty much half a bag of that already in that timeframe.

• 56:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, remember, this is your final exercise. So you never know when your next task is gonna be put upon you.

• 56:37Speaker 03

  For the audio listener, the buttons have been conquered. We've managed to put them to one side. The next task is coming up.

• 56:41Speaker 04

  Ogie, ogie, ogie.

• 56:43Speaker 06

  Ogie!

• 56:46Speaker 06

  Oh, no!

• 56:48Speaker 03

  I think we're gonna have to put that to an adjudication panel and say she didn't go for the full oi, oi, oi, she's still in the game. But my God, that was a very, very, very close moment to going all in and not resisting. Fucking hell, you can take, you're right, you can take the guy out of Newcastle, but a little bit of ogie, ogie, ogie. You still wanna do it again?

• 57:06Speaker 06

  I haven't finished it! What is this?

• 57:10Speaker 04

  There's your bubble wrap.

• 57:12Speaker 03

  For the audio listener, we have a square of bubble wrap, straight off the back of the ogie, ogie, ogie.

• 57:16Speaker 04

  Don't see that bubbled about the bubble wrap, do you?

• 57:20Speaker 03

  No, bubble wrap's not getting it.

• 57:22Speaker 04

  You can pop one bubble.

• 57:25Speaker 03

  Pop one and see if it sparks something.

• 57:30Speaker 03

  Oh, God.

• 57:33Speaker 03

  I'm gonna follow that up with another ogie, ogie, ogie!

• 57:37Speaker 06

  That's a real, I'm just gonna say that's a real cun's trick, that.

• 57:41Speaker 04

  Oh, sorry, what?

• 57:42Speaker 06

  It's a real cun's trick because it's in the fucking slogan, mate, that you just kind of have just one of them.

• 57:50Speaker 03

  For the audio listener, we now have Pringles on the table.

• 57:54Speaker 03

  Can she have one and stop?

• 57:56Speaker 04

  You know what they say?

• 57:58Speaker 06

  I know exactly what they say.

• 57:59Speaker 04

  What do they say?

• 58:00Speaker 06

  Once you pop, you just can't stop.

• 58:02Speaker 04

  They don't say that.

• 58:03Speaker 03

  They've stopped saying that.

• 58:03Speaker 06

  What do they say now?

• 58:04Speaker 04

  They say pass the Pringles.

• 58:06Speaker 06

  Is that what they say?

• 58:07Speaker 03

  They can't encourage people to take too many, which is what we're doing.

• 58:13Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 58:15Speaker 03

  God, I'm glad we've really, props department, I'm glad we've really tempted her with original plain flavour.

• 58:20Speaker 06

  I know.

• 58:20Speaker 03

  I'm glad, I'm glad, I'm glad, oh gosh, how will she resist Pringles Original Ready Salted?

• 58:25Speaker 06

  If this was paprika, I'd just have a real issue on your hands. Whoever bought them fucked it.

• 58:32Speaker 03

  Oh, no, more bland crisp, please.

• 58:35Speaker 06

  I would actually still have another one, though.

• 58:38Speaker 04

  You have another one?

• 58:39Speaker 06

  But I won't.

• 58:40Speaker 03

  Challenge failed.

• 58:41Speaker 04

  And you'll fail.

• 58:44Speaker 06

  I won't.

• 58:46Speaker 03

  Bring out the cheese.

• 58:48Speaker 06

  Oh, what kind?

• 58:51Speaker 03

  I didn't want to have to do this.

• 58:55Speaker 03

  This is not just any cheese. Vicky.

• 58:57Speaker 06

  Cornish cruncher, you.

• 58:58Speaker 03

  It's a Cornish cruncher.

• 58:59Speaker 06

  Little bellend, I thought I liked you.

• 59:02Speaker 03

  It's what Joe sounded like earlier, the Cornish cruncher. She's gone for the laugh, she's gone for the laugh! Fuck it, some things in life are to be enjoyed. Vicky Pattison, everybody!

• 59:13Speaker 03

  That cheese is so fucking good. That cheese is so good.

• 59:20Speaker 03

  Oh, it's all gone in. It's all gone in!

• 59:29Speaker 03

  For the audio listener, there's no way I can describe what's just happened. Every single part of the challenge has gone in a gob.

• 59:39Speaker 06

  That cheese is so good, man. So I'm trying some.

• 59:43Speaker 04

  I don't fucking know what's happened here.

• 59:45Speaker 03

  I can only admit that cheese is really good.

• 59:48Speaker 04

  What are you doing?

• 59:49Speaker 03

  I'll never get out of that chair, but for this cheese, have you tried some of this? Please try some.

• 59:53Speaker 06

  Tell me why I'm pringa.

• 59:54Speaker 03

  The cheese makes your whole face tingle.

• 59:56Speaker 04

  I was meant to be finishing off with a congratulations, Vicky. I'm so proud of you. You've come a long way and you've shown

• 1:00:05Speaker 04

  real strength and resistance to your biggest weakness, but you're now.

• 1:00:13Speaker 04

  Right, okay, that's the end of our session today.

• 1:00:16Speaker 06

  I had a nice time, did you?

• 1:00:19Speaker 04

  I really did. Now, before we move on to the finisher, where we present you with a badge and a lollipop, which I don't think is actually necessary in this, but you're probably gonna take it anyway and you're still eating the cheese.

• 1:00:33Speaker 06

  It's so good, too.

• 1:00:35Speaker 04

  I will say this. What a roller coaster it's been. And genuinely, thank you for giving up your time and coming on and doing the show. We've really enjoyed it. I know full well Jake has really, really enjoyed it.

• 1:00:51Speaker 03

  I've got gout.

• 1:00:55Speaker 04

  But equally, it's nice to take the piss and have fun. But also really nice that you were able to give us a few moments of

• 1:01:06Speaker 04

  proper heartfelt, genuine conversation and it was really kind of you.

• 1:01:11Speaker 06

  I think it's really nice to talk about your feelings and stuff. And actually, I was a little bit nervous because when people really see you, it's scary. But I think like wearing your heart on your sleeve and being vulnerable and talking about your stuff, even if you're not a huge fan of it, is really important because you give other people the reason to do so too.

• 1:01:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:30Speaker 06

  And also it ended with so much cheese and chocolate that made me really happy.

• 1:01:33Speaker 03

  So much has happened.

• 1:01:35Speaker 06

  Mmm, been a busy day.

• 1:01:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's been a really busy day.

• 1:01:38Speaker 04

  Well, Vicky, the time has come to present you with your badge. A badge of honour, so to speak.

• 1:01:47Speaker 04

  I'm not sure whether that's the right phrase to use, considering you failed the last and final task.

• 1:01:53Speaker 06

  Fairly, I never tasted so good, Joe.

• 1:01:57Speaker 03

  Damn right.

• 1:01:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, well played. What ideas have we got for Vicky's badge, please?

• 1:02:01Speaker 03

  Because it was just a big hunk of cheese. It's now sort of gnawed on all ends, anyway.

• 1:02:05Speaker 04

  Like a little mouse. You're like a little mouse, aren't you?

• 1:02:07Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 1:02:08Speaker 04

  Just gnawing away.

• 1:02:10Speaker 03

  Gnawing away. Vicky, we've gone with go medium and then go home. And that is for you. That is for you.

• 1:02:19Speaker 04

  Go medium and then go home, safely.

• 1:02:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:02:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, good.

• 1:02:22Speaker 03

  It's based off go hard or go home, so it should have just been go medium or go home. Or go medium. Well, you've got what you've got, so enjoy it. Enjoy it.

• 1:02:30Speaker 06

  Go medium and go home. I like it.

• 1:02:33Speaker 04

  And not that it's overly necessary, but.

• 1:02:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, if you've got room.

• 1:02:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, she made the effort to go for the red one.

• 1:02:44Speaker 03

  You knew you wanted the red one straight away. There was no indecision about that.

• 1:02:47Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:02:48Speaker 04

  I'm exhausted.

• 1:02:49Speaker 06

  I know. I'm sorry. It's a lot.

• 1:02:51Speaker 04

  I'm gonna have to have a lie down.

• 1:02:53Speaker 06

  Well, you have that effect.

• 1:02:53Speaker 04

  And I really, really cannot wait for you and Jake to bring out your Harry Potter podcast.

• 1:03:01Speaker 04

  But Vicky, you have been fucking incredible. I love you. We love you. Vicky Pattison, everybody.

• 1:03:09Speaker 04

  All right, bugger off.

• 1:03:10Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:03:12Speaker 04

  Janet will see you out.

• 1:03:13Speaker 06

  I think I'd like to take my fairness.

• 1:03:16Speaker 03

  Lots of carry, isn't it? Do you want it? Yep.

• 1:03:18Speaker 06

  Thanks for having us.

• 1:03:26Speaker 04

  Wow, wow, wow. This is... Oh, actually. Quite grateful.

• 1:03:32Speaker 04

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• 1:03:44Speaker 03

  By now.

• 1:03:45Speaker 04

  By now, like even just to look at me, it should be clear. But if you do need any professional help, you'll find a link to great support services on our Instagram. I've been Joe Marler and he has been.

• 1:03:57Speaker 03

  Jake Bardwidge.

• 1:03:58Speaker 04

  My fake research assistant. And this has been Joe Marler. We'll see you now and we'll see you next time. Bye bye.

• 1:04:04Speaker 03

  Bye.

• 1:04:05Speaker 02

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