You've GOT To Be Careful With Acronyms

This week Joe Thomas and James Buckley discuss how one of James’ iconic Inbetweeners phrases, got him into some bother when he used it as an acronym online and one listener letter shares a story of how trying for a baby via IVF led to a troubling pneumatic tube tale. PLUS the Fact Boys decide whether peeing on a Jellyfish sting does actually help… EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/factup Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee. GET IN TOUCH: Whatsapp us - wa.me/447822034330 http://wa.me/447822034330 Fill in our Fact Up Form - https://forms.gle/uzF6XWPqaA5aNTtN7 Subscribe on Youtube - www.youtube.com/@JoeandJamesPod/videos http://www.youtube.com/@JoeandJamesPod/videos Follow us on Instagram - www.instagram.com/joeandjamespod http://www.instagram.com/joeandjamespod Follow us on TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@joeandjamespod http://www.tiktok.com/@joeandjamespod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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  I'm thinking of doing a three-day fast.

• 1:08Speaker 03

  Are you?

• 1:09Speaker 02

  Just water? Apparently, after two days...

• 1:13Speaker 03

  You don't feel hungry anymore.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  You don't feel hungry anymore.

• 1:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, then after 40 days, you really don't feel hungry anymore.

• 1:20Speaker 03

  You don't feel sad. You don't feel worried. Joe and James.

• 1:26Speaker 04

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• 1:33Speaker 02

  Welcome to Joe and James Fact Up. Each week, we'll be bringing one another a fact that we deem interesting, and our policy is, the more interesting it is, the more true it must be. We'll also dig into the weird things that you'd like us to look into, that you think that might be true, but can't be bothered to do the research yourself in a segment that we're calling Fact Check. So if you want to send your facts to us, our email is [email protected]. You can also contact us on WhatsApp. That's cool, isn't it?

• 2:03Speaker 04

  It's not a group as well. Some people think it's a WhatsApp group. It's not a WhatsApp group.

• 2:06Speaker 03

  It's a number.

• 2:07Speaker 02

  Can we start a WhatsApp group?

• 2:08Speaker 04

  I don't think we should.

• 2:10Speaker 02

  Just let them get on with it?

• 2:11Speaker 03

  That'd be fucking chaos.

• 2:13Speaker 04

  Someone's got to moderate that and that's someone. Nah, I think that's fine.

• 2:17Speaker 02

  It'll be like Big Brother when it first came out. Big Brother was so good.

• 2:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, but it's just, it'll just be me watching and it'll be hell.

• 2:24Speaker 02

  No, but, oh, yeah. How would I be able to watch it without giving anyone my number?

• 2:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's not really doable.

• 2:32Speaker 02

  Did I give the WhatsApp number, Lily May?

• 2:34Speaker 04

  I think you did, but I don't know if you gave it to socials.

• 2:35Speaker 02

  I'll just go, I'll do the WhatsApp number one more time. 07822034330. Our socials are also Joe and James Pod.

• 2:45Speaker 03

  At Joe and James Pod. Although you're pushing back against the app, aren't you? You want to see it. But I think you're a bit early to remove it entirely because it's still used.

• 2:52Speaker 02

  The app for me feels like if someone said to me, oh, check out my website, it's www, right? Don't worry about the www.

• 3:02Speaker 03

  The longest letter as well. W W W.

• 3:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:05Speaker 03

  It's so long.

• 3:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, World Wide Web.

• 3:07Speaker 03

  World Wide Web.

• 3:07Speaker 02

  I think World Wide Web is quicker than W W W.

• 3:10Speaker 03

  It genuinely is. Don't even get me started on fucking acronyms. Genuinely. If you use an acronym to me that isn't fucking obvious, and I mean like BBC level obvious.

• 3:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:20Speaker 03

  The, the use of acronyms when you know full well the person you're talking to doesn't know the acronym is.

• 3:26Speaker 02

  Are you having a go at Amy from last episode?

• 3:29Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:30Speaker 03

  What?

• 3:30Speaker 04

  Fuck.

• 3:30Speaker 03

  No, that's great. No, she explained it. No, I'm not going to go. No, no, I'm talking about like if you ring up somebody who's supposed to help you and they go like, um, um, that's all PRS now, mate. And you're like, you know, I don't know what that means.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  PRS. That's a guitar make, isn't it?

• 3:45Speaker 03

  Well, I don't know. But what I mean is they're also, every acronym is everything because there's not that many letters. So every acronym is actually the acronym of like 25 different organisations. Just don't use them. Don't use them.

• 3:55Speaker 02

  So, yeah, so I.

• 3:56Speaker 03

  Point never saves time because you have to explain what they mean anyway.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  I used to do, and I might bring it back. I don't know. Depends how I feel. I'm allowed to do whatever I want.

• 4:04Speaker 03

  You can do whatever you want.

• 4:05Speaker 02

  But I used to, I used to make a lot of, I used to make a lot of video game content on YouTube.

• 4:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:11Speaker 02

  And to lean in. To the in-betweens and why people would know me, that sort of thing. And video games.

• 4:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:18Speaker 02

  I called my channel Complete It Mate.

• 4:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:21Speaker 02

  And so for all my sort of like, my Xbox account and my Playstation account and all these things, like if you, you know, if you're, if you're playing a game online.

• 4:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:31Speaker 02

  And you see someone's.

• 4:33Speaker 03

  You can see their avatar and their handle, isn't it?

• 4:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, their handle, right? Mine was C I M Buckley.

• 4:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:41Speaker 02

  Right? And, uh, after a little while of doing this, someone pointed out to me that C I M, uh, is a sort of shorthand, if you, apparently you can look at porn or something on the internet. I wouldn't know.

• 4:55Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 4:56Speaker 02

  Right?

• 4:57Speaker 03

  No.

• 4:57Speaker 02

  Uh, but apparently you can, right? And C I M just means come in mouth.

• 5:05Speaker 02

  So, and I, and I'd like, like, all my accounts were all C I M Buckley.

• 5:13Speaker 02

  And it was like, well, like, that's it now.

• 5:16Speaker 03

  That's great. That's so good.

• 5:18Speaker 02

  And I, I think it's only until recently because of like, security issue and like, and, and because of like.

• 5:23Speaker 03

  How much time do you need to save if you're looking at porn? I haven't got time. C I M.

• 5:26Speaker 02

  C I M. C I M now. Cause you, you get straight home from work. You're just off the train and stuff and you just get, you get straight on and you go, C I M.

• 5:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. Efficiency.

• 5:36Speaker 02

  Oh, that's good. Right. It's really going in the mouth there.

• 5:38Speaker 03

  God almighty.

• 5:39Speaker 02

  Straight in the mouth, please. Um.

• 5:42Speaker 03

  I mean.

• 5:43Speaker 02

  But yeah, you do have to be, you do have to be.

• 5:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:45Speaker 02

  Careful with the, with the old acronyms.

• 5:48Speaker 03

  Well, that's lovely.

• 5:49Speaker 02

  Um, also I do want to remind you, you can watch full episodes.

• 5:56Speaker 02

  On, on YouTube, just search for, don't search for C I M Buckley, that's for sure. Um, search for Joe and James Fact Up, uh, and our, uh, the, the episodes come out on YouTube the same day as they come out on audio. So, uh.

• 6:10Speaker 04

  Every Tuesday.

• 6:10Speaker 02

  Every Tuesday, every single Tuesday. So, let's get. Fucked up.

• 6:19Speaker 02

  We've got some admin here, we've got some correspondence. Uh, we've got, Jesus, we've got a long one here. Uh, which I believe Lily May just told me it's to do with the, well, you said pneumatic tubes, but we all know they're called the dildo tubes. Dildo tubes, yeah. Um, for want of a better word. Um.

• 6:39Speaker 02

  It says dad tube.

• 6:40Speaker 04

  I've just given, I've just given them, I give the letters a little, a little name.

• 6:44Speaker 02

  Okay, good. Yeah. Does it say who it's from in the end?

• 6:47Speaker 04

  I can't see if, I'm gonna see if I can find it for you now because I'm just trying to.

• 6:51Speaker 02

  Well, by the time I get to the end of this message, I'm sure, I'm sure you'll leave a no whether they did leave a name or didn't.

• 6:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:57Speaker 02

  Um, anyway, they say whoever they are. Uh, hi Joe and James, just been listening to episode six where James reads out a listener's story about the old dildo tube, the old dildo shoot systems. I felt compelled to share my experience. My son was born through IVF, so tube. Test tube baby. Yep. Uh, I had a friend that was a test tube baby. His, his nickname was test tube baby. Um, and as you can imagine, this process involves producing your sample. Yeah. Yeah. So.

• 7:35Speaker 02

  I mean, come, I've already said come once on this episode, so we can just, we don't have to, we don't have to beat about the bush anymore, do we? I've already broken that seal.

• 7:45Speaker 04

  Come on, come on.

• 7:47Speaker 02

  You said that. Right. So there I was in, in the hospital's dedicated wank room. Right, so why? Funny to shy away from one and then. So there I was in the hospital's dedicated wank room, a grim little box with a plastic chair, a sink and a suspicious smell. No, there's no suspicion there, we know what the smell is. Yeah. It's spunk. Um, after managing to do the deed, I spotted an old pneumatic tube on the wall. Hang on a minute, is he gonna put his knob in it? Uh, on the wall? With a sign saying, "Deposit sample here." It looked dated, sure, but I figured the hospital budget cuts. Like, cause you do, like, when you go...

• 8:27Speaker 02

  So, things like hospital, like I mentioned about NASA and, uh, and the Soviet sort of...

• 8:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:33Speaker 02

  Um, did I mention that on?

• 8:35Speaker 03

  No, I know what you mean.

• 8:36Speaker 02

  Or was this a conversation over my...

• 8:38Speaker 04

  What's the pencil?

• 8:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, the pencil thing, right, where it's sort of like, let's make every penny count. And I don't mind that with, with like hospitals and stuff like that. If it works, then great.

• 8:48Speaker 03

  Keep using it.

• 8:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, absolutely. We don't have to just waste a load of money on like... On this, that and the other. So I get where he's coming from. You see a pneumatic drill? Drill.

• 8:57Speaker 03

  Drill, yeah.

• 8:58Speaker 02

  You see a pneumatic tube?

• 9:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, if you like, yeah.

• 9:03Speaker 02

  You see a pneumatic tube?

• 9:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:05Speaker 02

  I'll tell you what, right, it's because, it's because I've only heard the word drill come out, come after the word pneumatic. That's the thing they do with, um, roads and stuff, right?

• 9:13Speaker 03

  Yeah. Big old loud.

• 9:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:16Speaker 03

  Love doing them early in the morning.

• 9:18Speaker 02

  Oh, they can't...

• 9:18Speaker 03

  Get it done early!

• 9:20Speaker 02

  Anyway. Whoever. Simon! Oh, we got the name. Nice one, Lily, mate. Um, Simon was in the wank room. Um, and, uh, he, he, so, spotted an old pneumatic tube on the wall with a sign saying, "Deposit sample here." Looked dated, sure, but I figured the hospital cuts. Hospital budget cuts. I don't even think it's about budget cuts, I think it's just about spending sensibly. Um, so in goes the pot. What, he took it upon himself to use the tube?

• 9:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:48Speaker 02

  I wouldn't have done that, I would not have felt qualified. I would have given it, I would have handed it to someone. Hmm.

• 9:55Speaker 03

  But he's using his initiative.

• 9:57Speaker 02

  To, yeah.

• 9:57Speaker 03

  Um, well, I suppose it says, "Deposit sample here." He's just very obedient, he's just a very obedient man.

• 10:03Speaker 02

  It shot off up the tube, but then there was a jamming noise. I could see it stuck no more than six inches up the tube, just out of reach. I had to walk out and tell the lady at the reception. She stared at me. And said, "You were supposed to hand that to me, sir. Those tubes haven't worked since the 90s."

• 10:22Speaker 03

  Oh god. In a way, why leave it there with a sign saying, "Deposit sample here" then?

• 10:27Speaker 02

  Budget cuts. Budget cuts.

• 10:28Speaker 03

  I would say, "Get a pen."

• 10:31Speaker 02

  I would have changed the sign.

• 10:32Speaker 03

  I put the word "don't" in before the other words.

• 10:35Speaker 02

  Do you know what?

• 10:36Speaker 03

  You know, "Jobs are good and..."

• 10:37Speaker 02

  In Simon's defence here,

• 10:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:40Speaker 02

  A bit of sticky tape over the...

• 10:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 10:42Speaker 02

  Do you know what?

• 10:43Speaker 03

  And Simon was trying to not bother the busy NHS profinos. They're busy. They don't want to answer every fucking question about like, "Should you put your spunk in here or should you put it in there?" He's gonna, "I'll put it in here."

• 10:53Speaker 02

  That's it as well. Like, Simon and his partner, they're trying to have a kid. That's stressful.

• 10:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:59Speaker 02

  He's trying to do his best. He's asked to fucking come in a cup or whatever it is he's got to do now. He doesn't want to put more people out.

• 11:07Speaker 03

  Having a wank in a room that smells of other men's spunk must be...

• 11:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's terrible.

• 11:10Speaker 03

  Like, it's just honesty.

• 11:11Speaker 02

  And the last...

• 11:12Speaker 03

  I can't just do it somewhere else. I can't just go and do it in a private cuba. I mean, that'd be better, isn't it?

• 11:18Speaker 02

  I assume it's all got to be fresh in it. Don't they all die like within... Like if they just...

• 11:22Speaker 03

  Can't you just go... I mean, if you need a urine sample, you just go to the toilet.

• 11:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:26Speaker 03

  Is it weird then? I mean, maybe you shouldn't go and wank in a cubicle in a... It's probably alright. I don't know.

• 11:33Speaker 02

  But no, no, this is like, this is what's going through our pal Simon's head right now.

• 11:37Speaker 03

  So he's not in his right mind, really.

• 11:39Speaker 02

  He's all over the place. He's trying to do the... He's trying to not bother people any more than he has to.

• 11:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:47Speaker 02

  And, uh, and he's getting scolded. "You were supposed to hand that to me, sir. Those tubes haven't worked since the 90s." Meanwhile...

• 11:54Speaker 03

  Why was he supposed to know that?

• 11:55Speaker 02

  He then goes on to say, "Meanwhile, my other half is in theatre waiting for the eggs to be collected."

• 12:00Speaker 03

  Oh god.

• 12:00Speaker 02

  "So time is critical at this point. And I've effectively..." This is his words. "I've effectively yeeted my genetic material into a defunct hospital relic."

• 12:11Speaker 03

  That's brilliant.

• 12:12Speaker 02

  Um, "Next thing I know, maintenance are called. I'm standing there like a plonker."

• 12:16Speaker 03

  Oh, not maintenance.

• 12:16Speaker 02

  Whilst they're not very successfully trying to fish out my pot of jizz.

• 12:20Speaker 03

  It's like a bad porn film. It's how they turn up and like, they're like, "Oh, you understand they've got a problem with your plumbing."

• 12:25Speaker 02

  But that's the thing as well. Simon's already there. Like, and I'm trying to... Like, I'm not taking the piss out of Simon at all whatsoever, but he's in a position where he's like, well, he's genuinely probably feeling inadequate.

• 12:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:38Speaker 02

  Like not doing the things successfully that you're supposed to be able to.

• 12:42Speaker 03

  Vulnerable position.

• 12:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, like it's awful.

• 12:43Speaker 03

  You've broken an expensive machine in the nineties.

• 12:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:46Speaker 03

  With your scum.

• 12:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:48Speaker 03

  And now.

• 12:49Speaker 02

  I mean, that's something to brag about, if any of it.

• 12:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know. I'll tell you what. Yeah. The sample was too big.

• 12:54Speaker 02

  If any of it.

• 12:54Speaker 03

  He got stuck in the tube.

• 12:57Speaker 02

  Not being funny, Simon, you sound like a fucking legend to me.

• 13:02Speaker 03

  They were like, the tube's always been widened up before. Well.

• 13:04Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 13:05Speaker 03

  Hasn't encountered me before.

• 13:06Speaker 02

  I hate this sentence. After about 10 minutes, they finally get it out. And he gets rushed off to the lab. I tried to forget about it, but word had clearly spread. That's, what's going on in this place?

• 13:17Speaker 03

  There's supposed to be data protection, isn't there?

• 13:19Speaker 02

  This is such a delicate matter. This is so personal.

• 13:22Speaker 03

  How's word spread?

• 13:23Speaker 02

  This is so incredibly personal. Simon, I want to buy you a beer, mate. I've got to take you for a pint. This is not, this is unnecessary stress.

• 13:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:34Speaker 02

  Then finally get, word gets out and he gets rushed off to the lab.

• 13:38Speaker 03

  Spread.

• 13:38Speaker 02

  Um, I tried to, I tried to forget about it, uh, but word, word had clearly spread. Every staff member I walked past gave me that look as if to say, that's the bloke who got his sperm stuck in the tube.

• 13:50Speaker 03

  That makes it sound like he'd kind of got it like sideways on or something like.

• 13:55Speaker 02

  It makes it sound like he put his, he did what I was talking about. He put, he put his knob in the, in the.

• 14:00Speaker 03

  Wank up the tube.

• 14:01Speaker 02

  Long story short, the eggs were fertilised, the cycle worked. My son's here today. Thank fucking God. Because if you had to go through all that.

• 14:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:11Speaker 02

  Oh, that is a relief. Um, I realise it's going to be too long to read out this story. No, I read out every single bit, but felt compelled to share it. Anyway, great work on the podcast, that's Simon. Simon, thank you very much.

• 14:22Speaker 03

  I mean.

• 14:22Speaker 02

  That story, right? First of all, I mean.

• 14:26Speaker 03

  I don't think it is too long, because every bit of it is necessary.

• 14:29Speaker 02

  Absolutely. The story there, Simon, is absolutely incredible. It's a great, great anecdote, and also it's...

• 14:37Speaker 03

  It has a happy ending. It has two happy endings. It has one happy ending, and then it has another happy ending.

• 14:42Speaker 02

  It has a happy ending, then there's a bit of confusion and worry and stress.

• 14:46Speaker 03

  It's great.

• 14:47Speaker 02

  And then eventually, there is another happy ending.

• 14:48Speaker 03

  It's fantastic. And how that is not in a rom-com, I don't know, but I mean, that's...

• 14:53Speaker 02

  That is a sitcom, man.

• 14:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's crying out.

• 14:56Speaker 02

  Like...

• 14:57Speaker 03

  Crying out.

• 14:57Speaker 02

  That's something, like, if the in-betweeners are middle-aged, and that was... That's Will.

• 15:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:02Speaker 02

  That is what Will would be getting up to.

• 15:05Speaker 03

  Ah, so this, I mean, it's brilliant. Thank you. Thank you so much, Simon. And good, good name as well. Name...

• 15:11Speaker 02

  Of course, yeah.

• 15:12Speaker 03

  Close to my heart.

• 15:13Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 15:16Speaker 02

  Right, Joe, here's time for my fact. Again, it's the thing that fucking stresses me out most in my life.

• 15:23Speaker 03

  It stresses you out, doesn't it? And it's, um...

• 15:25Speaker 02

  Our idea, to do a show about facts.

• 15:27Speaker 03

  Well, it's not going anywhere.

• 15:28Speaker 02

  Could have done a show about anything.

• 15:29Speaker 03

  I know. We, um, we've gone for this.

• 15:32Speaker 02

  I fucking really regret it.

• 15:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:33Speaker 02

  I like it. I like other people's facts, but then we've got to come up with our own facts.

• 15:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, I like everything that they do. I really like.

• 15:38Speaker 02

  I feel really stressed. But can you believe it? It is December already. I mean, it's... I don't want to be that guy, but that is insane. But yeah, no, it is, um, it is the start of Advent, so, um, we decided that we were going to do facts about Advent calendars.

• 15:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:54Speaker 02

  Um, when chocolate-filled calendars appeared in the 1950s.

• 15:58Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 15:59Speaker 02

  Seventy-odd years ago.

• 16:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:02Speaker 02

  Right? And I feel like we're going to go back to this any minute now.

• 16:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:06Speaker 02

  Some people thought they were too indulgent.

• 16:09Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 16:09Speaker 02

  For the holy season.

• 16:10Speaker 03

  Okay, yeah, yeah.

• 16:13Speaker 02

  Almost blasphemous, or something like, if Twitter was around in the 50s, people that had got chocolate calendars would have been cancelled, right? For being too indulgent.

• 16:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:23Speaker 02

  Um, but now, of course, they're sacred in their own right. I mean, you...

• 16:29Speaker 03

  It's an interesting thought that if Twitter was around, really in any era, it would have been really fucking horrible.

• 16:37Speaker 02

  The irony is, right, even though...

• 16:39Speaker 03

  That's why I said we've got it now.

• 16:40Speaker 02

  Even though Twitter is, Twitter is around now, I feel like we should be the most liberated and the most sort of...

• 16:48Speaker 02

  Like, come one, come all, sort of attitude.

• 16:51Speaker 04

  Not that again.

• 16:52Speaker 02

  No, well, steady.

• 16:57Speaker 02

  Um, just don't shove it. If you, as long as you don't stick it in a pneumatic tube, then we're all gold, we're all gravy. That was how I wanted to start my fact, that the 1950s chocolate calendars were, were papooed. People looked their nose down, uh, looked down their nose. Yeah, no, I, I am. But of course, I knew, when I had read that fact, that that wasn't going to be good enough. Yeah. So I panicked and I've got, I've got at least three extra facts. Okay.

• 17:24Speaker 04

  You, you fact stack. This is, this is your tactic.

• 17:28Speaker 02

  Now, you know, um, a guy that I like to bring up every episode, these days, is, is a little guy called Hitler. Oh, Hitler.

• 17:38Speaker 02

  Yeah. But during World War Two, the Nazis banned religious advent calendars and replaced them with winter calendars. Okay. That featured tanks, soldiers and Nazi symbols instead of angels or baby Jesus. Hmm. That does feel like you're doing the wrong thing. Now, that is so Hitler. Yeah. I buy, in hindsight, and I, and I, I think there's other things that he did that you could go, that's really Hitler. That wasn't the worst thing he did. No. Yeah. No, it's not at all, is it? It's really, it's really down on the list, isn't it? It's a long way down. Hmm. It's a long way down. But yeah, they were, they were banned. He wasn't, he wasn't into religion, old Hitler. Um, the world's largest advent calendar, I'm just moving on, Joe.

• 18:22Speaker 02

  No, no, it's, listen, that's, um. Here we go. The world's largest advent calendar was a building. And I feel like, I, I found this out, but I feel like this is something we should, like I should have remembered. It sounds like Willy Wonka's chocolate factory. Yeah, but listen, in 2007, St Pancras Railway Station in London. What? Um, turned its 69 foot tall Victorian facade. Did it? Into an advent calendar with 24 numbered windows. No, it didn't. Officially. I don't think it did. Well.

• 18:56Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 18:57Speaker 02

  Well, let me say this next sentence. Officially recognised by Guinness World Records.

• 19:03Speaker 03

  Well, that has been unbelievably under promoted.

• 19:06Speaker 02

  As the world's largest, it's well under promoted, isn't it?

• 19:09Speaker 03

  I don't fucking clue about that.

• 19:10Speaker 02

  They need to get in touch with America's PR company.

• 19:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, we've spoken about like America, just the fucking stop sign is well famous.

• 19:16Speaker 02

  In 2007, where I was definitely.

• 19:18Speaker 03

  What do we have to do?

• 19:19Speaker 02

  I was definitely an adult and living my own life and stuff. I mean, I was 20.

• 19:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:23Speaker 02

  I was definitely like going about my stuff.

• 19:25Speaker 03

  I was out and about. I was always walking past.

• 19:27Speaker 02

  Did not see this.

• 19:28Speaker 03

  Dear old St Pancras.

• 19:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, King's Cross, like, like there all the time.

• 19:32Speaker 03

  Fucking, fucking live there, mate. I basically live there.

• 19:36Speaker 02

  Did not know about this at all, but, but that's the, that's the world's largest advent calendar, recognised by Guinness World Records. And just a little quick one.

• 19:43Speaker 03

  No, go, go, go, go, go.

• 19:44Speaker 02

  Sticking with Guinness World Records, the most valuable advent calendar, and I think this is cheating. I feel like me and you could do this if we wanted to, like how this has been given a Guinness World Record. Like it's true and everything, but, but it's pay to win. That's a, that's a phrase in video games terms, Joe, that you might not know.

• 20:03Speaker 03

  Paid to win?

• 20:04Speaker 02

  Paid to win. So there's, there's, there's games that you can play online where you're playing against other people and they'll be free to play. You don't have to pay for this video game. But maybe if you pay us a bit of money, you get a really good gun or something like that.

• 20:18Speaker 03

  Okay, okay.

• 20:19Speaker 02

  And then it becomes like, well, you're not good at the game. You just paid more money into it.

• 20:23Speaker 03

  This is going to be like one of those cocktails that's got like gold in it or something.

• 20:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 20:28Speaker 02

  I mean, you're almost word for word. According to the Guinness World Records, the most valuable advent calendar was a piece by Octagon Blue GVC. Brackets Belgium. I don't know what that is.

• 20:40Speaker 03

  No, no, oh, Belgium. Oh, sorry. Yeah, no, that, yeah.

• 20:44Speaker 02

  Is that also what Belgium's known as? That's the issue I'm getting.

• 20:47Speaker 03

  That's the other, yeah, that's the official title. Belgium's a nickname.

• 20:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:51Speaker 03

  And the real, the real name.

• 20:52Speaker 02

  It's like Netherlands, Holland.

• 20:54Speaker 03

  So if you look at Belgium's passport, it'll actually say like GVC, capital blue or something.

• 20:59Speaker 02

  Um, it was valued at 2.5 million euros, uh, 3.3 million dollars at the time.

• 21:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:07Speaker 02

  Right? It consisted of 24 glass tubes, each containing packaged diamonds.

• 21:12Speaker 03

  Who gives a shit? What a load of fucking nonsense. Like, do you, I mean, honestly, get back to the good old King's Cross.

• 21:20Speaker 02

  St Pancras, yeah.

• 21:23Speaker 03

  Which no one.

• 21:24Speaker 02

  No one knew about it.

• 21:25Speaker 03

  Literally no one knows about it.

• 21:26Speaker 02

  No one knows about it.

• 21:27Speaker 03

  No one knows about that.

• 21:28Speaker 02

  But that, but that is a world record.

• 21:31Speaker 03

  That's an actual world record.

• 21:32Speaker 02

  Turn a building, turn a fucking massive train station into, into an advent calendar.

• 21:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:36Speaker 02

  That everyone, like, if you're on your morning commute and you go through King's Cross and you get to see a new thing every day, absolutely brilliant. Like, just.

• 21:43Speaker 03

  Just getting a load of diamonds and putting them in a bag. That was a world's most expensive bag.

• 21:47Speaker 02

  It's like old, what's his, when what's his name, um, made some soap out of his fat.

• 21:51Speaker 03

  It's a bit like that, isn't it?

• 21:52Speaker 02

  Berlusconi.

• 21:53Speaker 03

  Berlusconi. Well, no one even, no one even wanted that. That was the thing. No one even bought that.

• 21:57Speaker 02

  And, but there you go. There's my little facts for you, Joe.

• 21:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 22:00Speaker 02

  Hopefully they were interesting enough for you.

• 22:02Speaker 03

  They were, they were great.

• 22:03Speaker 02

  I feel like this is me going forward now instead, unless I can really get a really juicy fact.

• 22:09Speaker 03

  I think you're too down on yourself. I thought they were all really good and, and, and stood on their own, on their own feet. They were.

• 22:14Speaker 02

  And I, I, I, as you, you know me, I had to, I had to include the Hitler thing because I can't go half an hour about talking about Hitler.

• 22:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:23Speaker 02

  Shall we move on to fact check?

• 22:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 22:25Speaker 02

  Um, it is time for fact check. This is the point of the podcast for you. You, you can't say that out loud.

• 22:34Speaker 02

  At least you won't. At least you're not yet. Right, listen, I'll promise, I'll make it a promise now to not mention Hitler so much.

• 22:41Speaker 03

  We're going to do some more Hitler stuff.

• 22:42Speaker 02

  It's gonna kill me, sure.

• 22:44Speaker 03

  I've got a good anecdote as well.

• 22:45Speaker 02

  About Hitler?

• 22:46Speaker 03

  Not about, no, not about Hitler. No, I've got a non Hitler anecdote. Not about Hitler. No, about myself.

• 22:50Speaker 02

  You know, you had one ball.

• 22:52Speaker 03

  You do, yeah.

• 22:53Speaker 02

  Yeah. Please. The other was in the Albert Hall. How did he get there?

• 22:56Speaker 03

  Yeah. Do you know on the, on the Carl Pilkington thing where they get him to read about Hitler? Carl Pilkington reads a book about Hitler and he's annoyed that it doesn't mention the one ball thing. They're like, well, yeah, it's not true.

• 23:05Speaker 02

  It's those little books that.

• 23:07Speaker 03

  Those little books you get at the checkout at Waterstones, as I believe they say, as I believe they say word for word.

• 23:12Speaker 02

  Shaver Gavara is one of them, wasn't it?

• 23:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, he does shake it off, yeah.

• 23:15Speaker 02

  Shout out to all the people listening that a proper sort of OG Gevays podcast and also the XFM shows.

• 23:23Speaker 03

  The XFM shows are amazing.

• 23:24Speaker 02

  There's loads of people that know when we're referencing them and understand when we're also accidentally referencing them.

• 23:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, they know when we've just muddled up

• 23:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:33Speaker 03

  work that they did

• 23:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:34Speaker 03

  with work that we think we're doing now.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  Anyway.

• 23:37Speaker 03

  Sometime later.

• 23:38Speaker 02

  We do need to do.

• 23:39Speaker 03

  Decades later.

• 23:40Speaker 02

  We do need to do, we do need to do fact check. And this is where you send in something that feels like a fact to you that you'd like us to confirm. We'll be reading a fact or question that you'd like us to get to the bottom of.

• 23:52Speaker 03

  We're gonna have a good think.

• 23:54Speaker 02

  Thanks, Joe. And then we're gonna have a good think during the ad break and we'll come back and let you know how true we think it feels.

• 24:03Speaker 03

  To us.

• 24:04Speaker 02

  To us. And then decide whether it passes our fact check. So, Joe, have you got this week's fact check?

• 24:10Speaker 03

  Yes, I have. So I was thought we'd do the ad break now, but I've got muddled, but we're not.

• 24:13Speaker 02

  No, we mentioned the fact check.

• 24:14Speaker 03

  Mention it first, then we do the ad break, otherwise it's ridiculous.

• 24:17Speaker 02

  I'm saying.

• 24:18Speaker 03

  Okay. So actually, this week's fact check comes from Tom in Torquay, Devon.

• 24:22Speaker 02

  God's country.

• 24:23Speaker 03

  Yes, and he has sent a voice note which

• 24:27Speaker 02

  I will play for you. Got another voice note, love it.

• 24:31Speaker 05

  Hi, guys. Hope you're having a nice day. I just wanted to ask you guys whether you think pissing on jellyfish stings actually alleviates any pain? Or whether you think that the human race has just been mindlessly pissing on each other for decades? With no real evidence that it actually does anything.

• 24:50Speaker 03

  Right. Good question.

• 24:52Speaker 02

  Good. It's in our consciousness as a society.

• 24:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:56Speaker 02

  Anyone that's watched Friends in the 90s, remember that you need to piss on someone if they've, if they've had a jellyfish sting.

• 25:04Speaker 03

  You're, you're quite, yes, I.

• 25:06Speaker 02

  Let's have a little break, Joe.

• 25:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:08Speaker 02

  And we'll come back and discuss, and we'll really get into this one.

• 25:10Speaker 03

  We'll get into this one, yeah. Okay.

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• 26:35Speaker 02

  So, who was that? It was Tom from Devon who wanted to know whether pissing on jellyfish stings really works.

• 26:41Speaker 03

  Right, so I think this is...

• 26:42Speaker 02

  Well, hang on, Joe, I need to say this, I believe.

• 26:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 26:45Speaker 02

  We are not doctors and obviously this is not medical advice, by the way.

• 26:49Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 26:50Speaker 02

  Now we can say anything, right?

• 26:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:52Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 26:55Speaker 03

  I think this is, is this like an acid alkali thing?

• 26:58Speaker 02

  Is it? Yeah, yeah, there's, it's trying to neutralise the sting. The chemical sting.

• 27:04Speaker 03

  So bees and wasps, they say, "Buy carb for bees, vinegar for vospes." That's what I was...

• 27:10Speaker 02

  That's what they say in Germany.

• 27:11Speaker 03

  That's what they say, yeah. So the idea being that, that, that buy carb... Is alkaline and bee stings are acidic, vinegar is acidic and uh wasp stings are alkaline. So you're neutralising.

• 27:23Speaker 02

  I didn't even know that, by the way.

• 27:24Speaker 03

  That is apparently true.

• 27:25Speaker 02

  I love that.

• 27:26Speaker 03

  Um, so in terms of jellyfish, are we saying?

• 27:29Speaker 02

  I've only been stung by a, I don't know what it was, whether it was a bee or a wasp. I've only ever been stung once.

• 27:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:36Speaker 02

  And it was, it was when we were in Australia.

• 27:39Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, I remember that.

• 27:40Speaker 02

  We went jet skiing.

• 27:41Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 27:42Speaker 02

  On our, on our day off.

• 27:43Speaker 03

  Oh, good.

• 27:44Speaker 02

  And uh, first of all, what's really funny is um, it, it sort of became a weird tradition. We went, when we did the first Inbetweeners film, um, one of our sort of little days off, us four boys and Ian and Damon, who are essentially the other two in between, tweens basically. Uh, we went jet skiing and we had such a great time and it was so much fun that they wanted to recreate that again in Australia. And um, obviously there was a bit more budget in the second film, uh, like we went all the way to Australia and it was gonna be bigger and better and all this. And the money people were like, we don't want the boys jet skiing. And Ian and Damon, who were, who wrote it, produced it and also were directing the second film.

• 28:25Speaker 02

  So they were properly in charge. They were like, they were the mum and dad of the, of the production, right?

• 28:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:31Speaker 02

  They were like, absolute no, this is a must. We need to go jet skiing. This is a thing that we do. We'd only done it once before.

• 28:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 28:40Speaker 02

  But it was like, we're not making a film unless, unless the boys are allowed to go jet skiing. Absolutely not.

• 28:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:44Speaker 02

  So we did, we ended up going jet skiing and uh, I felt what I thought, like I was behind like, I think it was either you or Blake or something.

• 28:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:53Speaker 02

  And I was like, and you get, it's a jet, right? Obviously, it's a clue in the name. Uh, but I felt like, it felt like, you know, it's like you're driving behind a big car and one of the stones get caught up in the treads and it hits your car and you're like, Jesus, what was that?

• 29:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  That's what it felt like hit me in the head.

• 29:12Speaker 03

  That's horrible.

• 29:12Speaker 02

  I thought I'd got hit by a stone.

• 29:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:14Speaker 02

  And I was like, God, that's way more painful than I thought it would be.

• 29:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:18Speaker 02

  And um, and this is right in the middle of filming, by the way, like this was, like, we, we were filming the day before, we had a day off, we'll be filming the next day. And I was like, oh, I think there's something hit me. I'm gonna be honest, I feel like it is a sting, like I can still feel it, like the, and my forehead went all big. During the filming and Spencer, the producer looked at me was like, yeah, I think you've been stung by something there. And I, I, I can only assume it must be a bee or a wasp.

• 29:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:47Speaker 02

  Because we got like, but we were out at the sea and I don't know how many bees are out at sea.

• 29:53Speaker 03

  They might be out there, I suppose. I don't know what they are.

• 29:55Speaker 02

  But you, you're, you're more likely to get stung.

• 29:58Speaker 03

  Oceans this on, but yeah.

• 29:59Speaker 02

  If it's windy.

• 30:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:01Speaker 02

  We were going through winds.

• 30:02Speaker 03

  It is, you are, aren't you? It's just because they get blown into you and then they panic and.

• 30:06Speaker 02

  But I don't know what I, to this day, I can't get to the bottom of it. We, we decided again in very fact up sort of mentality. Must be a bee.

• 30:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:16Speaker 02

  Um, but apart from that, I've never been stung by a wasp or a bee. So I don't know. Like I'm one of those people who's like, when people, when, when we're out and there's a wasp, I do get a bit freaked out.

• 30:29Speaker 03

  They're, they're annoying.

• 30:30Speaker 02

  They are well annoying and stuff, especially wasps. Cause they just, they just fucking do it. They do, they do it for the fun of it.

• 30:35Speaker 03

  They don't get the message. I know.

• 30:36Speaker 02

  When a bee stings you, it's like this, like they, they're like, I've only got one of these.

• 30:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 30:42Speaker 02

  And then I'm dead.

• 30:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:43Speaker 02

  So I'm only going to use it for the last minute.

• 30:45Speaker 03

  Bees also, we've, I feel like they, they make honey like.

• 30:49Speaker 02

  Very important.

• 30:49Speaker 03

  Fair play really.

• 30:50Speaker 04

  Do you think when you were jet skiing, you were going faster than the wasp will be. And so you kind of just flew into its arse?

• 30:57Speaker 02

  I think, I think I just rear ended a wasp or something, like a bee.

• 31:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:01Speaker 02

  No, no, definitely a bee. Cause they're quite, they're quite fucking, they flop about, don't they? They just sort of float bees.

• 31:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:09Speaker 02

  They don't, eh, the phrase busy as a bee. They never look busy.

• 31:14Speaker 03

  No.

• 31:14Speaker 02

  They're always just swanning around.

• 31:16Speaker 03

  We're not, not bumblebees, but I think if you look at the, we're in the workings of a hive, now you're talking.

• 31:21Speaker 02

  Right.

• 31:21Speaker 03

  Now there's, there's, there is work there. I don't know what the, the bum, the big, the big sort of fluffy.

• 31:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:27Speaker 03

  Bumblebee.

• 31:28Speaker 02

  I don't think they're that important.

• 31:29Speaker 03

  I don't think they are. I don't think, they might pollinate.

• 31:32Speaker 02

  I don't think they're doing as much as the, as the honeybee.

• 31:34Speaker 03

  Well, the honeybee.

• 31:35Speaker 02

  The honeybees look like wasps.

• 31:37Speaker 03

  The honeybees, yes, they do. They, they.

• 31:38Speaker 02

  Again, they need to get in touch with America's P R people.

• 31:42Speaker 03

  Yes, exactly. They, they, everybody, everybody who thinks of a bee.

• 31:47Speaker 02

  Things are the fat thing.

• 31:48Speaker 03

  Nice fluff. Yes, yes. The, the, with the, with the little woolly jumper on.

• 31:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:53Speaker 04

  What did you do with your bee stung forehead?

• 31:56Speaker 02

  It just, it just got all big and it did become a little thing where it was like, oh shit, we don't know what we're gonna do here.

• 32:01Speaker 03

  Also, I fell off my jet ski and, and the, and, um.

• 32:05Speaker 02

  Was you connected to the, to the, um, did you have the key or something connected to your wrist?

• 32:10Speaker 03

  I did.

• 32:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:11Speaker 03

  Yeah. So I, I fell off and, um, and I was like, it's all right, it's all right. And then all the Aussies on the crew were going, no, there are bull sharks in the harbour. So.

• 32:19Speaker 02

  That's what we kept forgetting as well.

• 32:20Speaker 03

  So they were, so they were, so, so they were like, well, no, I mean, do, no, do actually get back on because.

• 32:24Speaker 02

  There was a, there was a point where me and my son, um, Harrison, not Jude, obviously, he was only three months.

• 32:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:31Speaker 02

  Uh, Harrison was just under two, something like that.

• 32:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:34Speaker 02

  Where we had a day off, so we went on Gold Beach, which is just fucking miles and miles, this beautiful, beautiful golden sand beach.

• 32:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:43Speaker 02

  We're like, let's jump in the sea, da, da, da. And the waves were massive because they love surfing. It was literally called Surfers Paradise, the place that we were.

• 32:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, so, so, is that the name of the town on the map?

• 32:53Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yep.

• 32:55Speaker 03

  Again, it's big, it's big beautiful bill again, isn't it? It's just like, it's like, you can't, you can't have that as a name.

• 33:00Speaker 02

  I think you can be from Surfers Paradise.

• 33:02Speaker 03

  So it's a name.

• 33:03Speaker 02

  I think you, like, it could be in your passport or something.

• 33:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:06Speaker 02

  Surfers Paradise.

• 33:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:08Speaker 02

  But I was like, the huge waves and I was having fun with my son and like the waves were coming over us and we're like choking on the water and almost drowning and stuff like, oh fucking hell, what are we gonna do? Oh, and that fun. And then I pulled him out and then we were like, then, then we went about the rest of our lives. And then it was like, years later, where I was like, that was mental.

• 33:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:29Speaker 02

  That I did that.

• 33:30Speaker 03

  He was, we was two.

• 33:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 33:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, that is young.

• 33:32Speaker 02

  And I thought we were just at like, South End, like.

• 33:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 33:36Speaker 02

  Do you know what I mean?

• 33:36Speaker 03

  You're actually just.

• 33:36Speaker 02

  Just going for a paddle.

• 33:37Speaker 03

  Treacherous.

• 33:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:38Speaker 03

  Presumably shark infested.

• 33:40Speaker 02

  Box jellyfish. To start with.

• 33:43Speaker 03

  Yeah. There's, yeah, yeah.

• 33:45Speaker 02

  Just those turn.

• 33:46Speaker 03

  There's a lot of, there's a lot of poisonous.

• 33:47Speaker 02

  It's all, all over them. Australia.

• 33:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:50Speaker 02

  Um, I can't get enough of it. Um, but anyway, with Devon's question, sorry.

• 33:55Speaker 03

  Tom, Tom from Devon, but Devon, if you, if you. Give me Devon. Just call him Devon.

• 34:01Speaker 02

  That was so archery.

• 34:01Speaker 03

  All right, Devon.

• 34:02Speaker 02

  That was so, that was so, knowing me, knowing you, that was archery.

• 34:07Speaker 03

  Oh, Devon.

• 34:08Speaker 02

  Anyway, Jackie, your next, whatever.

• 34:15Speaker 02

  Anyway, Tom from Devon wants to know, pissing on jellyfish. I believe it does work. I believe there's science there. Like what you were just saying just then, it's about neutralising the acidity.

• 34:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:25Speaker 02

  However, I have read that that is a misconception.

• 34:31Speaker 03

  Right.

• 34:31Speaker 02

  And that it doesn't work at all as well. I think, I, I'm gonna go with this, right? I think it does work, but there's other things that could work better.

• 34:41Speaker 03

  There's other things that are better and are maybe more rea- Is it actually, you know what, I've heard, is it boi- you know what? It might be hot wa- doesn't it say hot water, warm water? For some reason is good.

• 34:51Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 34:51Speaker 03

  So maybe it's just that your piss is hot. Is it that? Is it, is it just that it's-

• 34:55Speaker 02

  I've not heard that. I, I'm going with the chemical thing.

• 34:58Speaker 03

  Yeah. When I, speaking of, um, speaking of piss being hot, when I was on, um-

• 35:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, it certainly is.

• 35:04Speaker 03

  When I was on, why did, why did-

• 35:05Speaker 02

  Thanks again, NordVPN.

• 35:11Speaker 02

  They're getting their money's worth.

• 35:13Speaker 03

  They are, they really are. I don't know whether they want their money's worth, but, um, they're getting it. As a, as a brief aside, when I did Celebrity Bear Hunt, there was a bit where-

• 35:24Speaker 02

  Oh, for god's sake.

• 35:25Speaker 03

  The losing team-

• 35:26Speaker 02

  Got pissed on.

• 35:27Speaker 03

  Had, he, well, no, nearly.

• 35:28Speaker 02

  Had to drink bear piss.

• 35:29Speaker 03

  Sort of. They had to eat a meal heated up by his piss. And I thought that what they meant was it was literally just put in a bag with the body heat generated by his piss and kind of swished about. So like, it was put in like lukewarm water.

• 35:44Speaker 02

  Right.

• 35:45Speaker 03

  What it actually meant is that there were these crystals that you activate with liquid. And he pissed on the crystals and then that goes- And it kind of, and it's an exothermic reaction and that heats the food.

• 35:54Speaker 02

  But it could have been any liquid.

• 35:55Speaker 03

  It could have been any liquid. So it wasn't necessary, it wasn't necessary for it to have been his piss. And the losing team did speak to me afterwards and they were like, yeah, loads of the piss was just in and around the food, like just kind of on the, on the rim of the thing they had to eat from. Like they were like, it was, it wasn't, it wasn't sealed. It wasn't sterile. It was like.

• 36:13Speaker 02

  So it is a TV show and I do, I, I, I do understand how television, like how things can be dramatized.

• 36:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:21Speaker 02

  Could have just said it was piss. Did you see him piss it?

• 36:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, we saw him do it. Literally saw him do it. Yeah.

• 36:25Speaker 02

  Did you see his penis and the pee, and the urine coming out of his penis?

• 36:29Speaker 03

  I wasn't there because I hadn't lost that challenge. I'd actually won that challenge. So I don't know. I'm, I'm not.

• 36:33Speaker 02

  So you just got straight piss. You got, you got a shot of Bear's piss.

• 36:36Speaker 03

  We got a shot of his piss.

• 36:37Speaker 02

  The, the losers.

• 36:39Speaker 03

  Really good for you.

• 36:39Speaker 02

  The losers don't get the piss, but they get to have their meal.

• 36:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:42Speaker 02

  Uh, yeah. Cause you're so lucky to be in Bear's presence.

• 36:49Speaker 03

  Anyway, that was, that, that was, uh, so, and so with this, I think it might be the heat. It's possible that it's the heat.

• 36:56Speaker 02

  We're saying fact. We're going fact.

• 36:58Speaker 03

  Saying yes to an extent.

• 37:00Speaker 02

  We're saying fact.

• 37:01Speaker 04

  Okay. So, um, it's up to you if you want to continue asking for the Queen's consent, but.

• 37:07Speaker 03

  We do want the Queen's consent.

• 37:08Speaker 02

  We would like the Queen's consent.

• 37:09Speaker 03

  We always want the Queen's consent.

• 37:10Speaker 02

  We always want the Queen's consent.

• 37:12Speaker 04

  I do enjoy that. Thank you. Okay. So.

• 37:17Speaker 03

  What say you ma'am?

• 37:19Speaker 04

  So, uh, apparently peeing does not make it better.

• 37:26Speaker 03

  But it doesn't make it worse.

• 37:27Speaker 04

  But what, it's.

• 37:28Speaker 03

  It can't hurt. Might as well.

• 37:33Speaker 03

  Doesn't make it better, but it doesn't make it worse.

• 37:38Speaker 02

  I thought you were gonna say, but it does make it worse. In which case that's a really, really bad bit of misinformation. Because that's the first, that's the first thing I'd do.

• 37:47Speaker 03

  It makes it worse.

• 37:48Speaker 02

  If I've got stung by a jellyfish.

• 37:50Speaker 03

  And it's piss.

• 37:51Speaker 02

  With my limited ed- education, I would, if I got stung by a jellyfish, the first thing I'd do is go, I've got to piss on myself right now.

• 37:58Speaker 04

  Okay, no, let me say that again.

• 38:00Speaker 02

  Go on.

• 38:01Speaker 04

  It's not advised and it can make it worse.

• 38:04Speaker 02

  It can make it worse.

• 38:05Speaker 04

  It can make it worse.

• 38:06Speaker 02

  Well, this is good. This is what we need to know, to be fair.

• 38:08Speaker 04

  The salts and other compounds that are in urine can trigger the stinging cells, which release more venom, increasing the pain and irritation.

• 38:17Speaker 03

  Right, so terrible advice.

• 38:19Speaker 04

  So.

• 38:21Speaker 02

  Don't put milk on it then, or anything like that.

• 38:23Speaker 04

  They say rinse with seawater, that can be helpful and that can help deactivate the stinging cells. If you've got any vinegar nearby.

• 38:32Speaker 03

  Okay, so basically a jellyfish. A jellyfish is a big wasp, essentially. That's the thing to.

• 38:38Speaker 02

  Is piss alkaline?

• 38:40Speaker 03

  I think we're then, well, no, what it confused me, they say don't piss because it's got salt. Um, rather use seawater. That's not salty, is it?

• 38:49Speaker 04

  Well, listen.

• 38:50Speaker 02

  That's a good point, Jo.

• 38:51Speaker 03

  I mean, I don't want to criticise.

• 38:52Speaker 04

  The queen.

• 38:53Speaker 03

  The queen.

• 38:53Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 38:54Speaker 02

  Careful.

• 38:55Speaker 03

  You've got to sometimes.

• 38:57Speaker 04

  Watch yourself.

• 38:58Speaker 02

  Don't question the queen.

• 38:59Speaker 04

  Don't question the queen.

• 39:00Speaker 02

  Don't, don't question queen.

• 39:02Speaker 03

  Queen. Not the, yeah, yeah.

• 39:07Speaker 04

  If there are any tentacles on you.

• 39:10Speaker 02

  You've got to get rid of them, yeah.

• 39:11Speaker 04

  You've got to remove the tentacles. It also says, um, try and immerse yourself in hot water.

• 39:17Speaker 03

  Okay, so I got that.

• 39:19Speaker 04

  But that's after initial treatment, so.

• 39:22Speaker 03

  Okay. So once you've, once you've fully recovered.

• 39:25Speaker 04

  That could be piss.

• 39:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, so then you can piss on yourself after that. So once you've fully recovered.

• 39:30Speaker 02

  Right.

• 39:30Speaker 03

  Celebrate.

• 39:31Speaker 04

  But it does, but it does say see a doctor.

• 39:33Speaker 02

  What do I definitely have to do? What do I definitely have to get stung by so that Jo has to piss on me?

• 39:39Speaker 04

  I think seek initial, initial treatment and then piss all you like.

• 39:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, basically.

• 39:44Speaker 04

  But you don't have to be stung to be pissed on.

• 39:45Speaker 03

  I'll be stood by and once you've recovered.

• 39:48Speaker 02

  If you could just stand over me.

• 39:49Speaker 03

  That's fine, yeah.

• 39:50Speaker 02

  I'll be lying on my back. I'll be in fetal position.

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• 41:14Speaker 03

  Joe, I believe you've got a fact for me. I have, yeah. Okay, so we're doing amazingly Advent. Yes, forgot about that. The fact I've got for you is about hymns.

• 41:29Speaker 03

  So people take Advent seriously, they don't start singing the Christmas hymns. Hang on, I thought we were talking about the hair loss. I'm not in gender, no. The hair loss thing. Oh no, not that, no. It's a men's, it's a men's hair loss brand. Hymns as in songs? Yes. And if you sort of follow Advent properly, you don't just start singing the Christmas hymns straight away. There are specific Advent hymns. So this is, and you only break out the Christmas hymns. I've got. On Christmas Eve. I've got a question for you. Yeah. So when does the? So all your heart, the Herald Angels sing, all the, all the classics, all the bangers. Yeah. Right? Them not until Christmas Eve. And Advent is a different thing.

• 42:13Speaker 03

  So obviously now there'll be Christmas songs on. When do you start Partridge in the Pear Tree then? And a partridge in a pear. I don't, I think again, probably just, well, that's another, that's the 12 day. Well, that's the 12 days, that's after Christmas. So actually, that's another thing.

• 42:27Speaker 02

  Sorry, that's what the song's actually called, isn't it? 12 Days of Christmas.

• 42:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, no, but no, but that's, but, so I don't know whether that's Advent either, but, um, so for example, a hymn like, um, quite a good hymn, I think. Oh come, oh come Emmanuel. Do you know that one? Oh come Emmanuel.

• 42:44Speaker 02

  No, I don't know that one. I know the, oh, let's, let us adore him one. Is that just a hymn?

• 42:49Speaker 03

  I think that's a, well, um, that was a fun one at school because he got louder and louder. Yeah. Oh come, let us adore.

• 42:56Speaker 02

  Oh come.

• 42:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, that was, that was always good. Um, so yeah, there's, um.

• 43:01Speaker 02

  Christ, the Lord, just to.

• 43:04Speaker 03

  Christ. Yeah, you've got a.

• 43:07Speaker 02

  Really hammer that home.

• 43:08Speaker 03

  Yeah. If you ever had a.

• 43:09Speaker 02

  In case there was any ambiguity.

• 43:10Speaker 03

  I, I used to, I used to, um, peeing khas when I was little and, and they would always try and really get you to an uncanny. It was like Christ, and then, then it was like.

• 43:20Speaker 02

  Christ, the Lord.

• 43:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of that. Um.

• 43:24Speaker 02

  That was when teachers made themselves out as if they were doing something.

• 43:30Speaker 03

  I don't know what that means.

• 43:31Speaker 02

  No, I know what you mean. Like, because it'd be, it'd be like the Christmas play or whatever, or something like that. And like, there'd be, there'd always be one teacher that would take it really seriously.

• 43:39Speaker 03

  Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

• 43:40Speaker 02

  It was like, everyone knows the words to this song. The parents are singing along and everything like that. Christ.

• 43:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 43:46Speaker 02

  And they were like, no, no, let's go again. Let's go again. And then you'd be like, I really don't think anyone's gonna notice this.

• 43:52Speaker 03

  I was talking about, I was just beginning to school plays. Basically Advent is a specific thing. It's got its own songs. For example, Oh Come, Oh Come Emmanuel, which I think is quite good. Uh, hymn. But just on plays, uh, I was in a play when I was doing my A levels and I was so fucking stressed out. And my whole throat was like ulcerated with like ulcers, but I think it was caused by stress. All my, all through my A levels, I just had horror, like a throat that was just covered in white blobs. And I was doing a play and basically I got.

• 44:21Speaker 02

  I can imagine you stressed. Don't worry about it.

• 44:23Speaker 03

  I got a twitch and I just hoped that no one would notice. And after the director noticed immediately and was like, um, and he was like, um.

• 44:35Speaker 02

  He pointed out, did he?

• 44:36Speaker 03

  He pointed out, he went, um.

• 44:38Speaker 02

  Did that help?

• 44:38Speaker 03

  He said, um, you've developed a twitch.

• 44:42Speaker 03

  Um, the thing is, he was-

• 44:44Speaker 02

  Did that help with the old anxiety?

• 44:46Speaker 03

  Uh, well, no, the twitch continued.

• 44:47Speaker 02

  But how do you, how would you approach that? Cause it's like, I can't mention it, cause that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help Joe's twitching.

• 44:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was a guy who, he didn't, he didn't have a Welsh accent, but we always thought he was Welsh. So we always, whenever we did impressions on him, he always had a Welsh accent. So in my head, he's going, Joel, you've developed a twitch.

• 45:04Speaker 02

  Right.

• 45:05Speaker 03

  And, um, you know, we need to deal with this. And, um, I can't remember whether I dealt with it for that play or not, but I remember that when I was at university, I was in another play. And I was in, I was in Animal Farm.

• 45:16Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 45:17Speaker 03

  And I was playing Boxer the Horse. And I kept on doing that.

• 45:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:21Speaker 03

  And the audience thought that it was in character. And people afterwards were like, that horse is fucking good. Like, he's really worked, he's really deep, he's proper deep. And then backstage I was going, oh yeah, thanks very much. And they're like, oh no, no, it's, uh, no, it's not that.

• 45:36Speaker 02

  You've been through a handful of twitches since I've known you as well.

• 45:40Speaker 03

  I've had some bad twitches.

• 45:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. Unfairly, I think, this became a DVD extra at one point where Joe was having a breakdown. I think it's on the first in-betweeners-

• 45:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, My Video Diary, yeah.

• 45:50Speaker 02

  No, no, no, the first in-betweeners, um, film.

• 45:54Speaker 03

  Oh, right.

• 45:54Speaker 02

  In the DVD extras, this is an outtake. Uh, where Joe's having a breakdown and they go, right, they, they call it and they go like, right, uh, scene, da, da, da, take one. And then Joe, Joe's having a panic about something that maybe he's spoken to an Italian or something like that. And he's suddenly, he's suddenly thinking about that. And he goes, sorry, can I just have 10 seconds? And he, and he's like, he, he gets 10 seconds, he goes, well, that did absolutely nothing.

• 46:24Speaker 02

  That made, that made, like, that was like a blooper.

• 46:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was always asking for these short breaks where I try and really, really, really quickly try and get my entire head together. It'll be like, it'll take about six or nine seconds, can I just- Duck on it.

• 46:38Speaker 02

  Can I get two seconds?

• 46:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, two, yeah, it was, yeah.

• 46:40Speaker 02

  That's changed, that's changed nothing. Anyway, carry on.

• 46:43Speaker 03

  No, I was, um, no, it was quite, um, pretty, uh.

• 46:47Speaker 02

  It was stressful, like.

• 46:48Speaker 03

  It was stressful.

• 46:49Speaker 02

  Like, as much, as much fun as we had making The Inbetweeners. And we did have such a laugh. We really, really, really did. It was the best job in the world. I've, I've not, and sadly, I've not, I just haven't had as much fun working on anything else than I, than I have done on The Inbetweeners.

• 47:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:05Speaker 02

  And, uh.

• 47:06Speaker 04

  No offence taken.

• 47:07Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no. No, I mean, TV. I mean, TV. I mean, if we're talking about making podcasts, this is, this is my second favourite podcast to do.

• 47:20Speaker 04

  The Feltless was a good episode, wasn't it?

• 47:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, yeah.

• 47:24Speaker 02

  But we had so much fun, but we also did put so much pressure on ourselves. There was, there was such, uh, and it, it's really ironic when you think about it. Such a pressure to be funny.

• 47:35Speaker 03

  It's the biggest pressure.

• 47:35Speaker 02

  We were, we were obsessed with being funny.

• 47:38Speaker 03

  Feeling like you were supposed to be funny and you weren't funny.

• 47:41Speaker 02

  But, but no.

• 47:42Speaker 03

  And then the scene being over is the worst feeling in the world.

• 47:45Speaker 02

  But this, the, the script was always there and the script was really good and there was always funny stuff in the script, but it was always, it was always.

• 47:52Speaker 02

  And I think you'll agree with me. I think you'll agree with me. Even when you're not saying lines.

• 47:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:57Speaker 02

  I just was like, well, I've got to be doing something funny right now, even if I'm just listening to you doing your lines. I need to be doing something funny.

• 48:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:05Speaker 02

  And, and there was, there was just this immense pressure of being like, that's got to be funny.

• 48:10Speaker 03

  There was loads of pressure. I felt tons of pressure. I also just had crippling OCD and I, I kept thinking I'd fucked up the continuity. So I, I kept going, I kept visiting the different depart, I kept turning up to sound being like, so sorry, just worried that I might have made a noise in my chair. And they were like, you know what, Joe?

• 48:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, we'll let you know.

• 48:26Speaker 03

  It's fine, we'll let you know. Okay. And then, and then I'd go and then they'd see me coming back and there was another sound.

• 48:31Speaker 02

  You would, you would say things like, I think I made a noise over James's line.

• 48:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:35Speaker 02

  Which is not your responsibility at all whatsoever. It, it like, they'll let you know. If they need me to do the line again, they will tell me.

• 48:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, I mean, just genuinely like, just, uh, just astonishing OCD.

• 48:48Speaker 04

  Did, did that develop from the first series or?

• 48:51Speaker 03

  No, I le, no, I had it when I left university and it, it, it had been worse. And then when I was on The Inbetweeners, it. Was really bad, really, really, really bad, to the extent that they paid for a therapist to come to set. And she thought it was a joke because it was a Channel Four show. She thought it was like a candid camera show and it was like a stitch up.

• 49:11Speaker 02

  Chris Moyles was gonna come out.

• 49:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, like, yeah. And, um, but it was just like, and also it wasn't that much discussed at the time. So I was just like, I'm completely insane and I need to deal with this privately in these little nine second breaks that I was asking for. And somehow pull my head together and then do the thing. And yeah, actually, if to be fair, if the, the many other jobs, they just wouldn't have been in the atmosphere that was sympathetic to that kind of stuff. But because.

• 49:37Speaker 02

  Especially at that time.

• 49:37Speaker 03

  Especially that time.

• 49:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 49:39Speaker 03

  But, um, Ian kind of could see what it was. And, um, there was one bit where I was kind of going like that.

• 49:49Speaker 02

  You kept blinking with like really harsh with one eye.

• 49:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. And he'd go, and he went, um, he said, either where have you gone or where did you go?

• 49:58Speaker 02

  That's what he said. Yeah, I remember.

• 49:59Speaker 03

  And I was like, that, I, I suppose what I'd say at that point is I felt like seen for the, like, I was like, yeah, that is what it is. It's like, I'm not. But it was funny. Interestingly, like the, um, remember there was an England cricket team who did a tour of Australia and they all had like mental health problems?

• 50:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:15Speaker 03

  Like trot and like, and I remember somebody who was a bowler saying, when I'm running into the wickets, my mind is on anything other than trying to hit those stumps. And I was like, yeah, that's what it was like. Like, there were, there were times where I was genuine. I was just annoyed we were making the show.

• 50:29Speaker 02

  I think.

• 50:30Speaker 03

  Because I wanted to get back to my own private worries.

• 50:32Speaker 02

  I think it peaked, uh, during the first in between us. For, for me personally, I think the second in between us film, we had a lot more fun.

• 50:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:41Speaker 02

  Because I, I don't think we, I, I, we were all very much, we were all like, this is the last time we're gonna do this. So let's have fun. Let's enjoy ourselves. Let's not get so wrapped up in all the stuff that we usually worry about.

• 50:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:54Speaker 02

  Um, but it definitely peaked in that first in between us film because we, one of the main reasons was, was. Before that first Inbetweeners film, there was already this stigma, which I think, I think we have not only like managed to crush that, but like, people have completely forgotten about that. Where if you had a British sitcom and they made a film about it, it was the death of that sitcom. The film was always gonna be rubbish. It was the jump in the shark of the, of the, of that sitcom.

• 51:23Speaker 03

  No, that's true.

• 51:24Speaker 02

  Like On the Bus Is the Movie or stuff like that.

• 51:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:27Speaker 02

  And, um, and, and we had that pressure, cause it was just like, and at the time, like, just getting funding for that film.

• 51:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:33Speaker 02

  Was so difficult, even though Inbetweeners had gotten really, really popular at that point.

• 51:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:37Speaker 02

  Lots of, uh, people that, uh, distributors and, and Channel Four and stuff like that were like, yeah, but you know, it's sort of a kiss of death, isn't it? Like you make a film of, of a TV show and it's, it usually ends up really rubbish.

• 51:49Speaker 03

  No, it's true.

• 51:50Speaker 02

  So we also, we also had that constantly during that first film.

• 51:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, there was a lot.

• 51:54Speaker 02

  Then we did that first film and then all of a sudden you've got, um, you've Alpha Papa and all, all these people like, um, Lee Francis, what was his, uh, did he do like Keep Lemon the Movie or something like that? Suddenly, the industry was like, oh yes, we wanna do, uh, films off the back of TV stuff.

• 52:13Speaker 03

  Crown us, it's like, rather than it being.

• 52:15Speaker 02

  But before the Inbetweeners and to, to our credit,

• 52:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:18Speaker 02

  It was, it was a poison chalice. It was, don't do it. Don't ever do it. Don't ever make a movie of a, of a successful TV show, cause that will kill it.

• 52:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:26Speaker 02

  And, and we, we turned it around.

• 52:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's true.

• 52:29Speaker 02

  And that was through us fucking stressing out and Joe twitching all over the place.

• 52:34Speaker 03

  It was stressful. It was fucking stressful. I mean, I, I, I found the series quite stressful. I mean, it, it was, uh, like, yeah, it was hard. But I mean, it's weird. I, I don't think there was much, there wasn't a, if, if it hadn't been for that particular set of writers, I'm not sure. I think other, uh, other, another show, I just don't know whether I would have had any one to go to at all.

• 52:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:54Speaker 03

  Maybe I'm being unfair on other shows, but it didn't really feel like.

• 52:57Speaker 02

  No, I think, I think we, we get into nearly 20 years ago.

• 53:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:00Speaker 02

  We were like, it was.

• 53:01Speaker 03

  There wasn't really a record.

• 53:02Speaker 02

  It was 2007 when we were making that, uh.

• 53:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:05Speaker 02

  And, and it, and it was still very much loaded nuts. I mean, we got a nuts award and stuff like that. That was very much like lad culture.

• 53:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:15Speaker 02

  And.

• 53:17Speaker 03

  There was the idea that, that if you're, that you basically do your work and then you do, um.

• 53:25Speaker 03

  Various forms of like leisure and then that was it. That was your entire life. And the the idea that there might be this third space where it was like, well, I'm doing a leisure activity, but I'm not happy. I said, maybe I need to go to work. Well, I'm going to work, but I can't do it. That that maybe there's a third area here that needs to kind of be opened up between these two ways in which you might spend your life.

• 53:47Speaker 02

  I think.

• 53:47Speaker 03

  I think wasn't really there. I think it wasn't.

• 53:50Speaker 02

  I think we're there or thereabouts nowadays.

• 53:52Speaker 03

  Oh, we're definitely there now. Yeah.

• 53:53Speaker 02

  Really good. I like that it's now flipped. It's like, it's like, uh.

• 53:57Speaker 03

  Well, now people are taking the piss out of everyone who wants mental health all the time, but like.

• 54:00Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no, I don't. No, I wasn't gonna say that. I think I've, no, because that was what it was like. It was like, fucking what? Like even like he was like.

• 54:08Speaker 03

  Well, no, I suppose what I mean is it's now, I think.

• 54:09Speaker 02

  I wouldn't, I wouldn't have a dream of seeing a therapist. I'd just be like.

• 54:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:14Speaker 02

  What? What? What are you talking about?

• 54:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 54:16Speaker 02

  Like, it wasn't part of my life.

• 54:18Speaker 03

  I found, I thought it was ridiculous. I genuinely thought it was, I thought it was like.

• 54:21Speaker 02

  But now I like that we've come out of that sort of, um. You know, loaded nuts.

• 54:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:28Speaker 02

  Lads mag sort of guys. Now it's sort of like quite manly to go and see a therapist.

• 54:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:34Speaker 02

  Now, now, now you're sort of like, fucking, all right, well, I'm gonna see a therapist. Like, I love all that. I'm into it. That's an interesting discussion and I'm not sure if that's our vibe, but it is what it is.

• 54:44Speaker 03

  Could be a vibe.

• 54:45Speaker 02

  Um, listen, should we? I'm, I'm definitely all fact.

• 54:49Speaker 03

  I'm fact out now. I mean, goodness me.

• 54:51Speaker 02

  I'm definitely fact out. What have we learnt, uh, today, Joe? Joe, we learnt that, um, Hitler didn't like religious, uh. Religious calendars. What?

• 55:01Speaker 04

  I just think whenever you mention Hitler, I'm going to sigh. I think that we just got to accept that.

• 55:05Speaker 02

  Hitler didn't like religious calendars, that he banned them, or the world's largest calendar was, uh, the, when they turned St Pancras.

• 55:13Speaker 03

  But like no one, no, no, no one knows to the extent of, did they?

• 55:18Speaker 02

  We've also learned that, learned or learnt?

• 55:24Speaker 02

  We'll get into that next episode. We've also, we've also learned that pissing on jellyfish stings doesn't

• 55:32Speaker 03

  Doesn't help.

• 55:33Speaker 02

  Can make it worse.

• 55:34Speaker 03

  Can make it worse. So, so, um.

• 55:36Speaker 02

  So that's good.

• 55:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:37Speaker 02

  That's good that we all know that. Thank you, um, Devon.

• 55:41Speaker 03

  Devon, yes. Devon from Tom in Torquay.

• 55:44Speaker 02

  And, uh, and we also learned that, um, Christmas carols, your genuine bona fide Christmas carol.

• 55:52Speaker 03

  Shouldn't be sang until Christmas Eve.

• 55:53Speaker 02

  Shouldn't be sang until Christmas Eve.

• 55:54Speaker 03

  You need an Advent carol.

• 55:56Speaker 02

  Well, thank you very much for listening, guys. We hope that you've learned as much as we have. We'll be back next week, armed with more facts, chats, bees and gnats.

• 56:06Speaker 04

  Not my best. Well, I did have it as facts chats and nativity fasts, but because Advent is also known as nativity fast.

• 56:14Speaker 02

  Again, the problem is, is I say fasts.

• 56:17Speaker 04

  Yeah. So I did change it. It's not as good, but I tried my best.

• 56:21Speaker 02

  Listen, you, you can only do, you can, you can only work with what you've been given. Then no one's going to blame you, Lily, mate.

• 56:27Speaker 04

  I feel worse.

• 56:28Speaker 02

  Don't forget that you can get in touch with us if you'd like us to fact check something that feels true for you. For you, to you, or whatever nonsense you'd like to tell us. Our email is hello at joeandjamespod.com. Our WhatsApp number is 07822 034 330. And you can follow us on social media and you can slide into our DMs. At joeandjamespod. Head to the podcast description if I've not explained that correctly. All right, there we go, Joe. That's another one done.

• 56:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:00Speaker 02

  Bye, guys. Thank you so much for listening. We do appreciate it. Thank you. Sorry about that. Bye.

• 57:05Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

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