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It’s here! The very first episode of Joe & James Fact Up, the brand new podcast from Joe Thomas and James Buckley of The Inbetweeners. In this debut, the boys dive into everything from their firsts and answer questions like: would James ever get a sex robot? Why did Joe become a monk? And will an Inbetweener ever become Bond? Plus they’ll be the arbiters of the truth for the curiosities you want to believe plus they’ll share what’s going on in their lives and of course reminisce on their favourite moments from The Inbetweeners. GET IN TOUCH: Whatsapp us - LINK http://wa.me/447822034330 Fill in our Fact Up Form - LINK https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1lfqWAalqwwhofwjcJ6F0rm6MA1tuw5OtMLIFVzA4r_Q/edit Subscribe on Youtube - LINK https://www.youtube.com/@JoeandJamesPod Follow us on Instagram - LINK https://www.instagram.com/joeandjamespod/?igsh=MXRzajQ0ZmZ1N3U0dg%3D%3D# Follow us on TikTok - LINK https://www.tiktok.com/@joeandjamespod?_t=ZN-8zpfo1exCMA&_r=1 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 1:07Speaker 02

  Has everyone got their phones on silent?

• 1:09Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:11Speaker 04

  I mean, my phone doesn't need to be on silent. There's only two people that message me. One of them's sat right there. And the other one's my wife, and I've just spoken to her. And I know that I feel like...

• 1:22Speaker 03

  When I did...

• 1:23Speaker 04

  The text message conversation I had with her was pretty much like, right, I've given you enough time now. Get on with what you're supposed to be doing. So I won't hear from her for a few hours.

• 1:34Speaker 04

  So it could just be, I don't even need it. Don't even need my phone.

• 1:38Speaker 03

  I mean, honestly, when I did Celebrity Bear Hunt, when I was off-grid for three weeks...

• 1:42Speaker 04

  Oh, you're always banging on about that.

• 1:43Speaker 03

  Well, I'm just saying, I did come six out of 12. So, you know, I think I've got a right to bang on a...

• 1:48Speaker 04

  In the top 50%.

• 1:49Speaker 03

  That's in the top 50%, yeah.

• 1:54Speaker 03

  I was away for three weeks and...

• 1:59Speaker 03

  I was like, oh god, the emails I'm gonna miss, oh.

• 2:02Speaker 04

  Gonna have to catch up on everything.

• 2:03Speaker 03

  Oh god, I'm gonna be, oh, it's gonna, it's gonna hit me.

• 2:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:06Speaker 03

  Uh, came out, one email.

• 2:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:09Speaker 03

  It had been sent that morning.

• 2:12Speaker 03

  And it was from Ian Morris, who writes in between us, and it said, are you in fucking Costa Rica? So, nothing, just literally nothing.

• 2:21Speaker 04

  Anyway, Joe, should we do, should we do this podcast? Should we do it?

• 2:25Speaker 03

  Let's begin our podcast.

• 2:26Speaker 04

  Um, we're gonna have to, do you remember the jingle that they made for us?

• 2:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, I remember that, yeah, yeah.

• 2:31Speaker 04

  We're gonna have to play that, so play the jingle.

• 2:35Speaker 02

  Joe and James. Joe and James? Ah, Joe and James. Joe and James. It's Fact Up again. Joe and James, Joe and James, Joe and James, Joe and James, Fact Up!

• 2:49Speaker 03

  Yep, that's nice, isn't it?

• 2:51Speaker 04

  We said that was fine. We okayed that.

• 2:54Speaker 03

  We did, yeah. Yeah, haven't, haven't heard it since.

• 2:58Speaker 04

  I've forgotten what it was like. All I remember was how it made me feel when I first heard that jingle.

• 3:03Speaker 03

  I remember I said, it sounded like the kind of thing that I might make. Which I think I meant in a good way.

• 3:10Speaker 04

  In a compliment?

• 3:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think it's a compliment.

• 3:11Speaker 04

  It's complimentary, wouldn't it?

• 3:12Speaker 03

  I think so.

• 3:13Speaker 04

  Um, listen, we should probably talk about what we're doing here. Um, welcome to Joe and James Fact Up. Um, it's a new podcast. This is episode one.

• 3:24Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 3:24Speaker 04

  Might be the only episode.

• 3:26Speaker 03

  Well, I think we've contractually obliged to do forty-eight.

• 3:28Speaker 04

  That's correct. That's absolutely correct. I mean, the way this, the way this podcast came about was I said to you, oh, we should do a podcast together.

• 3:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:36Speaker 04

  You're like, yeah, sure. And that'd be great, just me and you talking bollocks on a podcast. People will like that, surely. However, every podcast nowadays needs a concept.

• 3:46Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 3:47Speaker 04

  And my-

• 3:48Speaker 03

  Big old concept needed.

• 3:49Speaker 04

  And I said, well, why don't me and Joe just, um, surprise each other with a couple of facts every week?

• 3:54Speaker 03

  Yep, yeah.

• 3:55Speaker 04

  That was my first idea.

• 3:56Speaker 03

  That was the very first thought, and here we are.

• 3:58Speaker 04

  And look at us now.

• 3:59Speaker 03

  That's the, uh, that's what we were, much like, do you remember the jingle where things are- Things are suggested once-

• 4:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's it.

• 4:08Speaker 03

  And then it's allowed to drift, I suppose. Is it, is it allowed to drift?

• 4:12Speaker 04

  My theory is right, is that everyone always does their best first.

• 4:18Speaker 04

  Do you know what I mean?

• 4:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think I follow that. Yeah, no, I understand. Yeah, you wouldn't, you wouldn't.

• 4:22Speaker 04

  We could have said, can you do another jingle? And they would have gone, well, yeah, we can do. And they would have come back with something that wasn't as good as, believe it or not, that one that we just heard.

• 4:31Speaker 03

  There's no point in, if you know where the ceiling is, just, just walk away, I suppose, and walk into the studio and begin doing the podcast.

• 4:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 4:42Speaker 03

  So, but I think it's a pretty good idea.

• 4:46Speaker 04

  Thanks, Joe.

• 4:49Speaker 04

  Thanks, mate.

• 4:49Speaker 03

  And I've got some, I've got a fact ready.

• 4:52Speaker 04

  I've got my facts ready as well.

• 4:53Speaker 03

  Actually, I've got two, but I don't, you're right, you're right.

• 4:55Speaker 04

  My eyes started leaking.

• 4:58Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 5:00Speaker 04

  Well, we're, we're, we're gonna talk about that in a second.

• 5:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, we'll get, we'll get, we'll get to that, we'll get to that.

• 5:06Speaker 04

  We just, we're gonna be talking about facts. We'll be, we'll be unpacking it, debating it. Joe's just taking a swig of tea.

• 5:15Speaker 03

  What's that mean?

• 5:15Speaker 04

  We're gonna be digging into the weird things that we all like to think are true, but never bother to check in a segment that we're clear, we're cleverly calling fact check.

• 5:24Speaker 03

  That's when we're checking stuff.

• 5:25Speaker 04

  That's where we're gonna be fact checking stuff.

• 5:27Speaker 03

  Seeing if it's real.

• 5:28Speaker 04

  That's gonna be a, a fact that's been submitted to us from a listener, is that right? And if you've got a fact or something interesting that you think me and Joe, you know, would enjoy hearing. We've got an email here, Joe.

• 5:41Speaker 03

  Bloody hell, have we?

• 5:42Speaker 04

  It is, again, just following the theme. I feel like this is the first idea of an email address. It's just called [email protected].

• 5:54Speaker 03

  Okay. That's okay.

• 5:56Speaker 04

  We've also got, we've also got a WhatsApp group. We're all in a, we're all in a WhatsApp group together with all the listeners. Oh, it's just a number. Our WhatsApp number is 07822034330. And you can also get in touch with us on socials.

• 6:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 6:16Speaker 04

  Which I know that you're, you know all about those, don't you, Joe?

• 6:18Speaker 03

  I bloody love a social.

• 6:20Speaker 04

  We are at @joandjamespod, all one word, on Instagram and TikTok.

• 6:25Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 6:25Speaker 04

  Anyway, here we are, Joe. This is it. Joe and James, fact up. Brand new podcast. How are you?

• 6:31Speaker 03

  I'm great. Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, I'm really well.

• 6:34Speaker 04

  We just did a little promo thing, didn't we?

• 6:35Speaker 03

  We did, didn't we? It was lovely.

• 6:37Speaker 04

  We had two, we had two lads there that, um, had, uh, built the Inbetweeners car.

• 6:42Speaker 03

  They've got nothing better to do than to build a replica.

• 6:45Speaker 04

  They built an Inbetweeners car replica?

• 6:46Speaker 03

  And to be honest, it's absolutely lovely. I mean, they've got, um.

• 6:49Speaker 04

  It's so much nicer than the one that we had.

• 6:51Speaker 03

  It is nicer than the one we had. Well, the one we had, I would say, was not roadworthy. We were talking about how the accelerator would get stuck down. That's not safe.

• 6:58Speaker 04

  I don't know how it managed to get any.

• 7:00Speaker 03

  It had a top speed of honestly about fifty-five or something. It was, it was really, you couldn't drive. If you had to overtake, you'd put out into the outside lane, you'd be like, well, nothing's happening.

• 7:09Speaker 04

  I wouldn't have gone that fast in that car.

• 7:11Speaker 03

  The bit where we had to pretend we were going a hundred miles an hour.

• 7:15Speaker 04

  When was that? Was that in the show?

• 7:16Speaker 03

  Yeah. Do you remember?

• 7:19Speaker 04

  Got no recollection of that at all whatsoever.

• 7:21Speaker 03

  It was in, um, the first series and we drive a hundred miles an hour.

• 7:27Speaker 04

  The Chickachenso?

• 7:29Speaker 03

  Well, yeah.

• 7:29Speaker 04

  I mean, that, of all the stuff from the Inbetweeners, I feel like that's the most unbelievable.

• 7:33Speaker 03

  I would say so, yeah. I know, I think that's probably true, actually.

• 7:36Speaker 04

  That we got that car to a hundred miles an hour?

• 7:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 7:40Speaker 04

  Go on.

• 7:45Speaker 04

  All right, that's our first interruption that we've had.

• 7:47Speaker 03

  Don't interrupt us.

• 7:48Speaker 04

  I didn't, uh, I didn't have my mic positioned properly.

• 7:52Speaker 03

  That won't matter. It's not really an audio medium, is it?

• 7:55Speaker 04

  It doesn't matter, does it? No.

• 7:57Speaker 03

  It's mostly smell.

• 7:59Speaker 04

  Um, but yeah, no, we just.

• 8:03Speaker 03

  By the way, can I just say?

• 8:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:05Speaker 03

  When, is anyone working on that? Smell-O-Vision? Because we've got, we've got a lot of other.

• 8:11Speaker 04

  Something from like the sixties or something?

• 8:12Speaker 03

  Why are we so fucking easy to do it? Or admit you can't do it?

• 8:15Speaker 04

  Well, I don't think it is easy. Do you remember, I had a three D.

• 8:18Speaker 03

  Sounds easy.

• 8:18Speaker 04

  I had a three D TV briefly in.

• 8:21Speaker 03

  Oh, that, yeah.

• 8:21Speaker 04

  In twenty-ten.

• 8:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:24Speaker 04

  It was when I first.

• 8:25Speaker 03

  You don't, you don't want it, do you?

• 8:27Speaker 04

  It was when I, no, I, I did, because I'm like such a tacky.

• 8:29Speaker 03

  That's what I'm saying, yeah.

• 8:30Speaker 04

  No, but because I was such a tacky guy, right?

• 8:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:33Speaker 04

  Um, I wanted this three D TV. You have to wear glasses, by the way.

• 8:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, of course you do, yeah. And that's what makes it so good.

• 8:39Speaker 04

  In your own living room.

• 8:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 8:42Speaker 04

  And, uh, it was when I first got together with Claire.

• 8:45Speaker 03

  Right.

• 8:47Speaker 03

  Sexy time.

• 8:50Speaker 03

  Oh, you look like James Bond in the three dimensional glasses.

• 8:55Speaker 04

  We'd be in my flat and I'd be like, pop those on.

• 8:57Speaker 03

  Oh, I tell you what.

• 8:58Speaker 04

  What are we doing? I was like, oh, I've got us a 3D film. We watched, um, we watched, we watched, uh, The Universe on Blu-ray 3D.

• 9:06Speaker 03

  Oh, that's sweet. Like, is that like an educational, like looking at planets and stuff?

• 9:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 9:10Speaker 03

  That's nice. That's like a man thinking, what would a lady like? Isn't it? In your like.

• 9:15Speaker 04

  Fuck it up. I don't know. Why is she still, I don't know what she's still doing with it.

• 9:19Speaker 03

  I don't know what she's doing. She should have known then. Like, what the, that's mad. I mean, well, listen.

• 9:25Speaker 04

  Ladies, ladies talk about red flags in guys.

• 9:29Speaker 03

  All I can say is The Universe must be a fucking good film.

• 9:32Speaker 04

  Anyway, apart from that, Joe.

• 9:33Speaker 03

  Anyway, that's, yeah.

• 9:34Speaker 04

  How are you? Are you good?

• 9:35Speaker 03

  I'm well, I'm really well. Uh, I'm, yeah, you know, just, um, excited to do this, excited to share some of my knowledge with you. Yeah, yeah. I mean.

• 9:45Speaker 04

  I mean, the, we are videoing this. That's what I call it.

• 9:49Speaker 03

  You are. That is the correct term. I don't.

• 9:52Speaker 04

  We are videoing this as well for YouTube. So if you're listening, you are, you're missing out.

• 9:56Speaker 03

  You're missing out. It is bloody brilliant in here.

• 9:57Speaker 04

  On an incredible set. It is really good. Couple of, a couple of points I've got.

• 10:03Speaker 03

  Go on.

• 10:04Speaker 04

  Who picked the, uh, I mean, Kelly Clarkson, CD. Um, who picked, uh, who picked the posters?

• 10:12Speaker 03

  They're a bit of a rum old bunch, aren't they, these posters?

• 10:14Speaker 04

  Did you, did you request any posters, Joe?

• 10:18Speaker 03

  I might, I might have requested S Club 7, genuinely. I genuinely might have done. I don't think, I didn't request, uh.

• 10:27Speaker 04

  Cut.

• 10:28Speaker 03

  Well, Cut for example.

• 10:29Speaker 04

  Who's, I can't, my eyesight's too bad. Who stars in Cut? Who's who?

• 10:34Speaker 03

  Uh, Molly Ringwald.

• 10:37Speaker 04

  Right.

• 10:38Speaker 03

  Jessica Nopia, Simon Bostle, Sarah Konz, and this is amazing, Kylie Minogue.

• 10:43Speaker 04

  Sarah who? Sorry?

• 10:45Speaker 03

  Well, Sarah, yeah, Sarah Konz.

• 10:48Speaker 04

  Sarah Konz.

• 10:50Speaker 03

  Um, and then genuinely Kylie Minogue.

• 10:53Speaker 04

  And Kylie Minogue in it?

• 10:54Speaker 03

  Kylie Minogue, yeah, she's there.

• 10:56Speaker 04

  We're good pals with Kylie, aren't we?

• 10:58Speaker 03

  Did she present an award to us once?

• 11:00Speaker 04

  She gave us an award, yeah.

• 11:01Speaker 03

  She sure did.

• 11:01Speaker 04

  I feel like, um.

• 11:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:04Speaker 04

  It was at the, uh, it was at the comedy awards.

• 11:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:08Speaker 04

  I think, I, I think it was like after we'd brought the first film out or something. And I feel like, I'm going back probably about 15 years. And it was, I can't remember what the award was. It was something like a lifetime achievement award or something at that point already.

• 11:27Speaker 03

  If they're giving you a lifetime achievement award, they're like, please don't do any more. Like, that's, well done.

• 11:32Speaker 04

  And I didn't.

• 11:33Speaker 03

  We didn't do any more.

• 11:34Speaker 04

  I didn't do any more.

• 11:38Speaker 04

  I'm just getting over a knee injury.

• 11:40Speaker 03

  Are you?

• 11:41Speaker 04

  Couldn't walk for about three days.

• 11:43Speaker 03

  How did you get a knee injury?

• 11:44Speaker 04

  Fuck knows.

• 11:45Speaker 03

  Bloody hell.

• 11:46Speaker 04

  I don't know. I think, the only thing I can put it down to is that I was on a train for a while.

• 11:52Speaker 03

  Right.

• 11:53Speaker 04

  And I was sat in an awkward position. It was a packed train.

• 11:55Speaker 03

  Oh my goodness.

• 11:56Speaker 04

  I mean, I'm, I just turned 38.

• 11:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:59Speaker 04

  And I feel like I'm moving into a different phase of my life now. Where you will just wake up and your knee's fucked.

• 12:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:07Speaker 04

  For no reason at all whatsoever. It's the same with my skin. Like, I woke up quite, just brilliantly, because, um, the universe hates me. I woke up quite spotty this morning. So I popped a couple of spots and they will just be, like, I've got like a spot on my cheek. Like, that's been there for about a month.

• 12:28Speaker 03

  No, I know, they get, they're, they're deep, aren't they? You know, I had one where I'm like, can you just fucking shit or get off the pot? Like, like, come, come to the surface if you're gonna, right?

• 12:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:37Speaker 03

  Or fuck off. And, and is what I've said.

• 12:40Speaker 04

  But also, like, what, what's the rules? Am I getting old? Because, or am I still a teenager?

• 12:46Speaker 03

  I know, I know, one or the, one or the other, one or the other. I still can't grow, I'll never be able to, I tell you what. I know this because of my dad. I'll never be able to grow a beard because he can't. I mean, he's not gonna have a nail. I can tell. He's like.

• 12:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, but you can grow a, you can grow a, a good goatee.

• 13:01Speaker 03

  It goes straight to goatee.

• 13:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, but that's quite good. That's quite, um, yeah. So if you look at people like Dave Grohl, uh, Johnny Depp.

• 13:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:10Speaker 04

  They don't have like the strong.

• 13:12Speaker 03

  The thing I feel about them is that like they are also, you know, Dave Grohl or Johnny Depp, whereas for me it's just.

• 13:18Speaker 04

  Dave Grohl, Johnny Depp, Joe Thomas. The, so there's the same.

• 13:22Speaker 03

  That's the band, you're saying?

• 13:23Speaker 04

  Same category.

• 13:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:25Speaker 04

  To me, man.

• 13:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. Well, okay, well, maybe I'll, um, grow it over the course of the series.

• 13:33Speaker 04

  Do it, man. Yeah. You do, you've got a strong moustache.

• 13:38Speaker 03

  I do sometimes do odd things, like I did a show once where I had to give a lecture about hair.

• 13:46Speaker 04

  Right.

• 13:46Speaker 03

  Right, it was a comedy show and.

• 13:47Speaker 04

  Sounds hilarious. Carry on.

• 13:49Speaker 03

  I'll tell you what, you should have.

• 13:50Speaker 04

  I can't believe it. Joe, I'm gonna be honest with you. I can't believe I haven't heard of it, but.

• 13:54Speaker 03

  I tell you what, well, I don't, I don't know how they did anymore, but it, but it, but it, but, um, but you know, it certainly got a good response on the day and, and you know, above all, I enjoyed it.

• 14:03Speaker 04

  Do you know what that is? That is a subject that's not been mined enough in comedy is hair.

• 14:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, I tell you.

• 14:09Speaker 04

  I mean, you could, you could do a whole ninety minute stand up on, on different hair, different types of hair.

• 14:15Speaker 03

  Tried, tried to. It didn't, it was not as much as you think.

• 14:19Speaker 04

  Really?

• 14:20Speaker 03

  No, it's too.

• 14:20Speaker 04

  Really, Joe?

• 14:21Speaker 03

  I didn't have a, so basically I didn't have a choice about the hair. Like, they said you had to do the history of hair.

• 14:26Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 14:26Speaker 03

  I think, I think they gave, they gave me a choice of topics. I said, that's the best one.

• 14:30Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 14:31Speaker 03

  And then during it, I was kind of like.

• 14:33Speaker 04

  What was the show called? Tell us what the show's.

• 14:35Speaker 03

  Comedians giving lectures. I think I might have been the second series, actually.

• 14:39Speaker 04

  Viewer, Katie's nodding, my manager's nodding.

• 14:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:41Speaker 04

  However, she's really, really nice and polite and I feel like she might just be nodding to make you feel better.

• 14:47Speaker 03

  She's, look, it's fine. I.

• 14:50Speaker 04

  Is that true?

• 14:50Speaker 03

  I don't mind. No, that's what I want.

• 14:51Speaker 04

  No, she's saying, no, I have her.

• 14:53Speaker 03

  What I want from my life is people nodding to make me feel better. That's, I don't, I didn't need to be sincere. No, I don't know, of course not.

• 15:00Speaker 04

  I've got no, if I, if I.

• 15:01Speaker 03

  This is fine.

• 15:02Speaker 04

  If I had a problem with pity, I would have never have lost my virginity.

• 15:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, I know, I have no problem at all.

• 15:08Speaker 04

  Absolutely not.

• 15:09Speaker 03

  No, with, no, any of that, no, absolutely not.

• 15:12Speaker 04

  I like pity, I like being pitied. So what was this thing about hair, Joe?

• 15:16Speaker 03

  Basically, so I was, I was sort of, I was kind of riffing in the speech about how it was a bit of a bad topic.

• 15:23Speaker 04

  Right, yeah.

• 15:23Speaker 03

  And I was like, I don't even know how to, I don't know what to do, like.

• 15:26Speaker 04

  So you, you incorporated that into the act?

• 15:28Speaker 03

  I incorporated that into the act, yeah, sort of saying, you'll notice that you're, none of you audience members are enjoying this.

• 15:33Speaker 04

  That's basically what we're doing now, isn't it?

• 15:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, it is, me sort of, yeah. It's a good, listen, tell you what, it's a good trick.

• 15:39Speaker 04

  Again, pity, is it?

• 15:41Speaker 03

  It's a good trick.

• 15:41Speaker 04

  Pity laughs, I'll take pity laughs, pity sex.

• 15:44Speaker 03

  It's, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's, it's all fine, and all of it's fine, all of it's fine. And anyway, so I was kind of, I incorporated it into the act, saying, oh, it's not a very good, um, topic. And I don't, I don't even think the producers think it's a good topic.

• 16:00Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 16:01Speaker 03

  Um, hair, uh, because one of the things they've asked me to do, or no, one of the things they suggested I could do is that I could shave, like a monk's tonsia into the back of my head, you know how monks have the bald, the bald patch?

• 16:11Speaker 04

  Like a zidane, yeah.

• 16:13Speaker 03

  Uh, I was sort of saying, oh, you know, do you know what the producers suggested to me? They suggested I could shave a, you know, a bald patch into the back of my head, like, as if I'm gonna do that.

• 16:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:24Speaker 03

  As if I'm gonna do that. And then as I was writing the speech, I was like, ah, it'd be funny if at the end of the speech I had done it.

• 16:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's, that's a big commitment.

• 16:33Speaker 03

  And then I did do it, I did, honestly, I did, I did do it, and it looked a, a, it was much, much, much, much worse than I thought it was gonna be.

• 16:40Speaker 04

  Oh, you did it?

• 16:41Speaker 03

  I did it.

• 16:41Speaker 04

  Right, hang on a minute.

• 16:42Speaker 03

  I did it, no, I did it, honestly, and I had quite long, like, longer than now, like, quite long floppy hair.

• 16:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:46Speaker 03

  And honestly, like, the, the, the makeup artist who was doing it was like, I don't wanna do it, like, you, do you really, it was like, she was gonna, she didn't wanna do it, but she was like, I was like, honestly, do it, it's fine, it'd be funny, I've got really, I've got really fast growing hair.

• 17:01Speaker 04

  Does that mean?

• 17:03Speaker 03

  I just thought I, because I, that was based on like, I kind of have, I seem to have to go to the hairdressers all the time.

• 17:09Speaker 04

  I know, but yeah.

• 17:10Speaker 03

  Whenever I go to the hairdressers,

• 17:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, your hair.

• 17:12Speaker 03

  It seems like, oh god, I feel like I was just here.

• 17:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, a haircut doesn't last long. However, if you, if you get a little mucks bald.

• 17:19Speaker 03

  A haircut doesn't last long, yeah. That takes a while.

• 17:22Speaker 04

  That cut's gonna last.

• 17:23Speaker 03

  It does, I tell you what, absolutely. And Hannah wouldn't let me, because I was like, look, what I'll do, I think almost to myself, I had in my back pocket the plan, if it looks mental, which it fucking did,

• 17:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:37Speaker 03

  I'll just shave it all off. I'll just be, you know, I'll just have a skinhead. Got home, Hannah was like, you are not having a skinhead. Because she, I'll tell you why, because she said, it will look stupid.

• 17:49Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 17:50Speaker 03

  Don't want to book it there then.

• 17:51Speaker 04

  I've got a couple of questions.

• 17:52Speaker 03

  Imagine if it looked stupid. It was honestly, I'd run my hand through my hair and I'd be like, oh god. It was like I'd had a lobotomy, genuinely, I was like, it was like if you'd had.

• 17:59Speaker 04

  You'd had an operation.

• 18:00Speaker 03

  Have an operation, you know, if you have an operation, they have to.

• 18:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:03Speaker 03

  And I had to, it was really, I need, I tell you what.

• 18:05Speaker 04

  If I was to have an operation on my head, right, and they had to sort of go in, I would say just shave it all.

• 18:10Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 18:11Speaker 04

  I would.

• 18:12Speaker 03

  Honestly, she wouldn't have me.

• 18:13Speaker 04

  I don't want just like a circle.

• 18:15Speaker 03

  Oh, then change it, because the circle's mental.

• 18:16Speaker 04

  It's like, it's all right, we've not shaved everything.

• 18:18Speaker 03

  I know, I know, that's, yeah.

• 18:20Speaker 04

  First of all, that's, if I'm having an operation on my head, I'm not worried, honestly. Secondly, just shave it all off.

• 18:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's much, much worse than just having it all shaved off.

• 18:32Speaker 04

  But I do, I know what you mean, right, because I do, I, I, I've always subscribed to the thought, uh, or, or to, the belief, I suppose, that I've made up myself. That i- if you're trying to be funny, if you're trying to make people laugh, then if you look funny,

• 18:48Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 18:49Speaker 04

  you're already like halfway there.

• 18:50Speaker 03

  Totally agree.

• 18:51Speaker 04

  Which is why I had all that bleaching done to my hair during the Inbetweeners.

• 18:55Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 18:55Speaker 04

  Then I had a moustache for, uh, white gold and stuff. Like, I've never, I've never had a problem with looking like an idiot.

• 19:02Speaker 03

  It's always what I've always said about my body as well, it's like, I could lose weight, but I just wouldn't be funny then. Or, you know, I could, you know, you don't like, you don't want to, there's nothing funny about a bloke with a six pack, right, I just think, it's not.

• 19:15Speaker 04

  Well, do you know, you, you remember.

• 19:16Speaker 03

  And that's why, I could have it, that's what I'm saying, like, I could. I, it'd be easy, it'd be easy for me.

• 19:21Speaker 04

  You remember Theo, uh, Theo James?

• 19:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:24Speaker 04

  From the first Inbetweeners film?

• 19:25Speaker 03

  He's the villain, right, because he's too handsome.

• 19:27Speaker 04

  Right, but the thing is, right. He's, um, I've not, I've not spoken to him since we did that film or whatever.

• 19:33Speaker 03

  Well, he's, you know, massive.

• 19:35Speaker 04

  I can't get near him now.

• 19:36Speaker 03

  Can't, won't answer his phone, yeah.

• 19:37Speaker 04

  They're, he's like, he's nice.

• 19:38Speaker 03

  After everything.

• 19:39Speaker 04

  They're chucking him in the Bond ring and everything.

• 19:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, you know.

• 19:42Speaker 04

  He's from the in-betweeners.

• 19:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, you know.

• 19:44Speaker 04

  But, yeah.

• 19:45Speaker 03

  You know, give me an audition at least for.

• 19:47Speaker 04

  Unbelievably handsome, right, wasn't he? Like unbelievably handsome.

• 19:50Speaker 03

  He is, yeah.

• 19:51Speaker 04

  Fit, fit little body on him, on the guy as well. I don't want to objectify it, but.

• 19:55Speaker 03

  No, it's, listen, I think, I think sometimes you have to.

• 19:58Speaker 04

  Mama mia.

• 20:01Speaker 04

  Right? But then also, I was like, oh, I get it, you're a good look, you're a good looking guy. And then also was, you know, you'd spend a bit of time with him.

• 20:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:10Speaker 04

  Also, a nice guy.

• 20:11Speaker 03

  Nice, yeah.

• 20:12Speaker 04

  So he's good looking and he's a nice guy.

• 20:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:14Speaker 04

  Then when he was like delivering lines and stuff like that.

• 20:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:17Speaker 04

  And he was being quite funny, I was like, right, we've got him. You've got to fucking stop there, mate.

• 20:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:21Speaker 04

  You cannot be.

• 20:22Speaker 03

  Don't come into our, but yeah.

• 20:23Speaker 04

  You can't be that handsome, that nice, and also quite funny as well.

• 20:28Speaker 03

  No, I totally, yeah.

• 20:29Speaker 04

  You, you're one or the other.

• 20:30Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 20:30Speaker 04

  I had to become funny because I was such an odd looking man. I hope he gets Bond. He's one of us, isn't he? He's one of our own.

• 20:40Speaker 03

  It'd be great, it'd be, you know, it would be.

• 20:41Speaker 04

  I mean, he doesn't answer my calls or anything, sure, but I do, I do hope he gets Bond.

• 20:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 20:46Speaker 04

  And he's great in that, uh, in The Gentleman on Netflix, the TV show.

• 20:50Speaker 03

  I haven't seen that, but I have, but I have, I have seen him in White Lotus, uh, where he's very good. Oh, also, he can do an American accent, so, well done.

• 20:58Speaker 04

  Do you know what, right? Uh, if he wasn't such a great guy.

• 21:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:02Speaker 04

  I'd fucking hate that, dickhead.

• 21:03Speaker 03

  Mm, mm.

• 21:04Speaker 04

  But he is really lovely, so.

• 21:06Speaker 03

  He's really great.

• 21:06Speaker 04

  So that's it.

• 21:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:20Speaker 05

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• 21:26Speaker 06

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• 21:27Speaker 05

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• 21:31Speaker 06

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• 21:35Speaker 05

  No FiOS, but it looks like it's got cable. Let's check out the kitchen.

• 21:38Speaker 06

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• 21:42Speaker 05

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• 21:44Speaker 07

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• 22:58Speaker 04

  Hey, Joe, right? Yeah. I've got to talk about a fact. Yeah. Again, this is what I was talking about earlier when I said that this was the first idea. Because you're not allowed to just have a podcast. You're not allowed to go to people. Can me and Joe just talk about funny nonsense for a little while? Make that to a podcast? They go, no, there needs to be. Has to be structured. So this is just an obligatory. I know, I know. You know, because it's called Joe and James Fact Up. Yeah. And even though, which people will eventually learn that this show has nothing to do with facts at all whatsoever. And the place that I get my facts from is the same place that you get yours. It's called Instagram. Yeah, I don't know anything. Could be, it could just be the Mandela Effect. We don't know.

• 23:43Speaker 04

  Yeah. So I need to give you my fact here. Okay. And it's our first episode. Yep. So we were given the theme of firsts. Yep. And that's why I found a fact for you. It's gonna be, it's gonna be a double for you. Yep. Well, triple, actually. Bloody hell. Because it involves a fact. Hang on, or is it just a double? I can't remember.

• 24:08Speaker 04

  It's a fact, right?

• 24:08Speaker 03

  More than one, though.

• 24:09Speaker 04

  So that's one. You like facts.

• 24:10Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 24:11Speaker 04

  We both like facts.

• 24:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:12Speaker 04

  It involves Cambridge University.

• 24:15Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 24:16Speaker 04

  And coffee.

• 24:17Speaker 03

  Oh my god, this is perfect.

• 24:19Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 24:20Speaker 03

  This is absolutely perfect.

• 24:21Speaker 04

  And I'm really, I'm gonna be really disappointed, but I'm worried that you might already know this.

• 24:26Speaker 03

  Oh, interesting. Okay, okay.

• 24:28Speaker 04

  But as you are a Cambridge grad with a history degree, I thought you might like this one, Joe.

• 24:34Speaker 03

  It's very considerate.

• 24:35Speaker 04

  The first ever webcam.

• 24:38Speaker 03

  Go on.

• 24:38Speaker 04

  No, you know this.

• 24:39Speaker 03

  I think I actually do know this.

• 24:40Speaker 04

  Ah.

• 24:41Speaker 03

  I know, can I, can I, well, no, shall I complete it?

• 24:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, go on.

• 24:44Speaker 03

  Was it of a pot of coffee?

• 24:45Speaker 04

  Ah, Joe.

• 24:46Speaker 03

  It was, it was, it was at a, um.

• 24:49Speaker 04

  It was invented at Cambridge University to check if the coffee pot was empty.

• 24:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's kind of.

• 24:55Speaker 04

  The Trojan Room Coffee Pot.

• 24:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:58Speaker 04

  Was a coffee machine located in the computer lab of the University of Cambridge, England.

• 25:03Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 25:03Speaker 04

  It was the subject of the fir-, of the world's first webcam.

• 25:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:08Speaker 04

  Created in 1991.

• 25:10Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 25:10Speaker 04

  And it was to, to save people, work, the people that were working in the building.

• 25:14Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 25:15Speaker 04

  It was to save their disappointment of finding the coffee machine empty after making the trip to the room. A camera was set up, providing a live picture of the coffee pot to all desktop computers on the office network.

• 25:29Speaker 03

  I'll tell you what, I have had temping jobs where like, the only thing I had. Was to go and get a cup of coffee. So I don't wanna know.

• 25:40Speaker 04

  You want it to be, you want it to.

• 25:41Speaker 03

  I want to have to find out.

• 25:42Speaker 04

  You want it to kill some time, don't you?

• 25:44Speaker 03

  I mean, for heaven's sake, I had a temp job where I'd sit there being like, okay, I can probably have a poo. That's like 15.

• 25:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:53Speaker 03

  Probably, let's be honest. Washing my hands.

• 25:57Speaker 04

  Got to scrub those.

• 25:58Speaker 03

  I'd use paper and the dryer.

• 26:00Speaker 04

  You're sure.

• 26:00Speaker 03

  Get your money's worth.

• 26:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:01Speaker 03

  I'd stay there till the paper towel was all itself dry again.

• 26:05Speaker 04

  Right.

• 26:07Speaker 03

  Um, I, um, uh, yeah, coffee. I mean, I'd be like 20 minutes. It was, it was a, it was a boring job.

• 26:14Speaker 04

  The webcam was eventually connected to the internet a few years later. And the coffee pot gained international renown as a feature of the fledgling world wide web.

• 26:26Speaker 03

  That's, it's the thing.

• 26:27Speaker 04

  Do you remember that, Sid?

• 26:28Speaker 03

  The fledgling, oh, the fledgling, yes.

• 26:30Speaker 04

  They stopped, it was retired in 2001.

• 26:33Speaker 03

  Wow, got out early.

• 26:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:37Speaker 03

  Why?

• 26:38Speaker 04

  Well, because that was after the boom, the dot com boom.

• 26:41Speaker 03

  I suppose they'll, we can't, we need to make some cuts.

• 26:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:46Speaker 04

  Do you want to hear who created, who created the first webcam?

• 26:50Speaker 03

  Yes, please.

• 26:51Speaker 04

  Right, and bear in mind, it's Cambridge University.

• 26:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, they've, to be honest.

• 26:56Speaker 04

  Pretty posh, pretty posho. You'd admit to that, wouldn't you, Joe?

• 26:59Speaker 03

  It is quite posh, but they do get through a lot of work as well, so it's, um.

• 27:03Speaker 04

  One of the people that created it, apparently two people had to come up with it.

• 27:08Speaker 03

  Lazy.

• 27:11Speaker 04

  One of them was Quentin Stafford Fraser.

• 27:14Speaker 03

  That is posh, isn't it? Yeah, Quentin, you can never, there is no working class person called Quentin.

• 27:20Speaker 04

  No.

• 27:22Speaker 03

  I'd say, if you looked at the 1966 England World Cup winning squad, there would not be many Quintons.

• 27:26Speaker 04

  There's not a Quentin.

• 27:27Speaker 03

  Not many Quintons.

• 27:28Speaker 04

  Plenty of Gordons and Bobby's.

• 27:29Speaker 03

  Plenty of Gordons, yeah. Cricket, you'll find a Lord Quentin, or yeah, but, um.

• 27:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, from 1921.

• 27:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 27:38Speaker 04

  That won the ashes, but also won the gold in swimming as well.

• 27:41Speaker 03

  And he was also like Secretary of the Treasury or something, like, yeah.

• 27:46Speaker 04

  Anyway, that was my fact. Let's have another swipe.

• 27:52Speaker 04

  JT?

• 27:53Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 27:53Speaker 04

  We've got a question from a listener.

• 27:55Speaker 03

  Oh, well.

• 27:55Speaker 04

  Because we're the fact boys, right?

• 27:57Speaker 03

  Very much so.

• 27:57Speaker 04

  That's what we're going to be known as from now on. So if you're, you know, if you want something verified, come to us. We'll put our stamp of approval on it, or maybe not.

• 28:06Speaker 03

  Or disapproval.

• 28:07Speaker 04

  This week's fact check.

• 28:09Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 28:10Speaker 04

  It comes from Rosanna, and she's asked, do cows really have different accents? Now, I'm going to be honest with you, Joe.

• 28:19Speaker 03

  What does that mean in a way?

• 28:20Speaker 04

  Animals don't, do animals have accents?

• 28:23Speaker 03

  They don't use words, do they?

• 28:24Speaker 04

  Listen, we might learn something together.

• 28:25Speaker 03

  Okay, let's see.

• 28:27Speaker 04

  I mean, good fact if true. So, uh, let's, let's do a little bit of, uh, re Google.

• 28:33Speaker 03

  So we're going to research, we're going to.

• 28:35Speaker 04

  I'm going to Google it.

• 28:36Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 28:37Speaker 04

  That's as far, that's as much as I'm prepared to do.

• 28:40Speaker 03

  I'm probably going to Google it as well.

• 28:42Speaker 04

  And then, uh, we'll come back with an answer for you. Stay tuned.

• 28:53Speaker 00

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• 29:28Speaker 05

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• 29:34Speaker 06

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• 29:35Speaker 05

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• 29:39Speaker 06

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• 29:43Speaker 05

  No FiOS, but it looks like it's got cable. Let's check out the kitchen.

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• 30:35Speaker 04

  Right, welcome back to Joe and James Fact Up. I can't believe we're doing this.

• 30:41Speaker 04

  I just mean podcast. Yeah, I know. We've been diligently fact-checking whether cows have accents from Rosanna. And... First of all, I'll, you know, lay out my stool. Is that what it's called? Is that saying?

• 30:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, set out.

• 30:57Speaker 04

  Show my, set out my stool, show my wares.

• 30:59Speaker 03

  I've heard like, um.

• 31:01Speaker 04

  There's three things.

• 31:01Speaker 03

  Set the table recently.

• 31:03Speaker 04

  Set the table. Yeah, I'll set the table. There's three things that I'm prepared to use for research. Google, Wikipedia and Chat G P T. I asked chat, um, do cows really have different accents? And they said, yes.

• 31:18Speaker 03

  That's what I've got as well.

• 31:18Speaker 04

  To some degree.

• 31:20Speaker 03

  Yeah. And also are we saying accent or are we saying that they don't all sound literally the same?

• 31:28Speaker 04

  Research and anecdotal evidence suggests that cows and many other animals, Joe, can develop vocal differences that resemble accents. For example, regional variation. I mean, literally like you can get a west country cow and

• 31:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:43Speaker 04

  A northern cow. Um, farmers have reported that cows in different areas moo with slightly different pitch, rhythm or tone.

• 31:51Speaker 03

  Rhythm?

• 31:52Speaker 04

  Yeah. I'm gonna be honest, like this.

• 31:56Speaker 03

  I tell you what, it's, it's charming, I think, that they, cause they, these farmers are around the cows.

• 32:00Speaker 04

  I've met a couple of farmers and they, they do have, they do like a laugh.

• 32:04Speaker 03

  Right. Okay.

• 32:07Speaker 04

  And I do feel like this is something that farmers would go, oh yeah, no, yeah, yeah, no, they have different accents.

• 32:12Speaker 03

  There's something of the, uh, drop bears about it. Is there? The, that thing that Aussies say to Poms.

• 32:19Speaker 04

  Herd influence?

• 32:21Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 32:21Speaker 04

  Just like people, animals living closely together may pick up each other's vocal habits.

• 32:26Speaker 03

  Also, just like people, animals living herds.

• 32:28Speaker 04

  Uh, here's the one that we, that's the important one. Scientific backing.

• 32:32Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 32:33Speaker 04

  So let's see what Chat G P T says about this. Um, studies.

• 32:37Speaker 03

  Quentin Stafford Clark.

• 32:40Speaker 04

  Studies on animal communication, including birds, whales and primates, show that vocalizations can shift based on social group or location. In cows, researchers at the University of Sussex, uh, which I assume is being funded financially, found evidence that individual cows have, that, this is not something that they're doing in their spare time, are they? This is money going into this, isn't it?

• 33:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. Well, maybe the cows are funding it.

• 33:05Speaker 04

  They found evidence that individual cows have distinct voices.

• 33:10Speaker 04

  And that social environment may influence these sounds.

• 33:15Speaker 03

  There is something here on YouTube where you're, I think you're able to guess where different cows are from. So do you want to hear this?

• 33:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, go on. Shall I guess?

• 33:21Speaker 03

  You guess and then I'll um.

• 33:24Speaker 04

  Hold up here. Are you gonna listen? Are we gonna listen to an advert now? Okay, have you ever asked yourself, do cows moo in different accents?

• 33:32Speaker 03

  Well, Lloyd.

• 33:33Speaker 04

  Hold it to the microphone, Joe.

• 33:35Speaker 03

  Okay. I was, no, I don't think this, I assumed this was gonna be different cows.

• 33:39Speaker 04

  Oh, is it just someone talking about it? Cause we can do that.

• 33:43Speaker 03

  Yeah. In a way, it'd probably be better if we did that, rather than just playing another podcast into the microphone.

• 33:50Speaker 04

  Shall we just, should me and you just sit here and listen to a, listen to a good podcast?

• 33:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:56Speaker 03

  Okay, hold on, let me see. Do cows have accents? Let's see, so.

• 34:02Speaker 04

  I mean, welcome to my world, guys. Here's Joe, right now, if you're listening and you can't watch this.

• 34:08Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 34:09Speaker 04

  Here's Joe Thomas, trying to work an iPhone.

• 34:11Speaker 03

  Googling some stuff. Hang on. I've given up on that, because I was. I assumed there'd be someone on the internet.

• 34:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:18Speaker 03

  Where there'd be different, there'd be a sort of playlist of.

• 34:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:23Speaker 03

  Different moods, right? There isn't.

• 34:25Speaker 04

  I reckon there is, Joe. I think the problem was.

• 34:28Speaker 03

  I wasn't able to find it.

• 34:29Speaker 04

  You were trying to access the, I mean, I, I pretty much sort of had to explain to you what a podcast was before.

• 34:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:37Speaker 04

  Just before we started doing this.

• 34:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, I, I mean, I, I thought it'd be, I thought it'd be more to handle. I can go away and.

• 34:47Speaker 04

  I asked you this morning if you've got, I said, have you got, because you were like, oh, man.

• 34:52Speaker 03

  I think I said.

• 34:53Speaker 04

  I'm worried about my facts. I called up my brothers. Um, I asked my friends.

• 34:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, I just texted.

• 34:59Speaker 04

  You were trying to get facts. I said to you, have you got chat G P T?

• 35:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, I quite like, I quite like the sort of, the human.

• 35:06Speaker 04

  You're very analog, aren't you, Joe?

• 35:07Speaker 03

  I'm quite analog, yeah.

• 35:08Speaker 04

  And I'll tell you what, man, I respect you for it.

• 35:10Speaker 03

  Thank you very much. I mean, I am.

• 35:11Speaker 04

  It does make this job a bit more difficult.

• 35:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, I'll use, I'll use A I. I've got no choice. But, um, you know, and it will use me. And, um, eventually.

• 35:24Speaker 03

  It will win.

• 35:25Speaker 04

  That's the thing.

• 35:25Speaker 03

  And that's, yeah.

• 35:26Speaker 04

  It's the thing, right now it's a symbiotic relationship, isn't it?

• 35:29Speaker 03

  It is, it is.

• 35:30Speaker 04

  The AI is looking at you going, oh, what's he like, what's he don't like? What's, you know, what's he all about?

• 35:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know, I know.

• 35:37Speaker 04

  I am, I am looking forward to sex robots though.

• 35:41Speaker 03

  Me too.

• 35:41Speaker 04

  That is one thing. If you could put, you know, those hyper realistic sex dolls?

• 35:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:45Speaker 04

  I, I once watched a documentary about a bloke that owned one.

• 35:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think I've, yeah.

• 35:50Speaker 04

  With a mate of mine.

• 35:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 35:52Speaker 04

  And he was, and the sex doll had to be shipped back for maintenance because it had been worn out a bit too much. But it looked like a person, like it looked like a human being, this, this sex doll, right?

• 36:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 36:03Speaker 04

  And, and I went to my mate, Matt.

• 36:08Speaker 04

  I went to my mate, do you reckon you'd ever get one of those? And he went, no. Cause, and I thought he was gonna say, because that would be weird, obviously, right? Cause this bloke that we're watching this documentary about, he sent this sex doll away to, and he was like, telling the sex doll, like putting it in a box with like packaging and stuff going, it's okay. We'll be together again soon. Don't worry. They're just gonna, they're gonna make you better, better and stuff. Like talking to the sex doll like a lunatic, right?

• 36:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 36:34Speaker 04

  And I went to my mate, would you, would you get one of those? And he went, no. And I thought, obviously not, because this bloke looks like a nutter.

• 36:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:40Speaker 04

  And it would be a mental thing to buy, right? A sex doll.

• 36:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:43Speaker 04

  And he went, because I think I'd get into it too much.

• 36:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:47Speaker 04

  He went, I think, he just, I'm watching this guy, he was like, I'm watching this guy and his life seems simpler than mine.

• 36:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:56Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, I suppose it's a level of self-knowledge that your mate had.

• 37:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:02Speaker 04

  It's best to don't go down that rabbit hole.

• 37:04Speaker 03

  Don't.

• 37:05Speaker 04

  You know, in a, you know, probably a better expression.

• 37:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 37:12Speaker 04

  Joe, I believe you've got a fact.

• 37:14Speaker 03

  I've got a fact as well. Well, um, well, it's funny. I think there must be sort of something in the water. Cause my fact is of a similar kind of provenance, I suppose. Um, so my fact is that.

• 37:26Speaker 04

  I don't know either.

• 37:30Speaker 03

  We're talking about the early days of the internet.

• 37:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:32Speaker 03

  So, do you know, the, the first banner advert.

• 37:36Speaker 04

  Right.

• 37:37Speaker 03

  Appeared on a website in nineteen ninety-four.

• 37:40Speaker 04

  Go on.

• 37:40Speaker 03

  You know what a banner advert is, right?

• 37:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, absolutely, yeah, of course.

• 37:43Speaker 03

  And it got a forty-four percent click-through rate.

• 37:47Speaker 04

  Wouldn't get that these days.

• 37:49Speaker 03

  No, it wouldn't.

• 37:49Speaker 04

  Would not get, you're lucky if you get one percent.

• 37:50Speaker 03

  And also, can I say what it said? It doesn't even sound enticing. It sounds like, you wouldn't click on this nowadays. The banner said, this is what it said.

• 37:59Speaker 04

  Did it just say nudes?

• 38:01Speaker 03

  No, it didn't, it said.

• 38:02Speaker 04

  Because that would get a good, that, that's a forty-four percent click rate, that is.

• 38:05Speaker 03

  It said, have you ever clicked your mouse right here?

• 38:11Speaker 03

  You will. That's what it said. Like, if you, nowadays.

• 38:16Speaker 04

  That's quite good.

• 38:17Speaker 03

  Now, if, but if you saw, now, I love that forty-four percent of people were like, yeah.

• 38:21Speaker 04

  To be fair, there's different ways you could.

• 38:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:24Speaker 04

  I feel like you went a bit sinister with the way. Yeah, have you ever clicked, you could have gone, have you ever clicked your mouse right here?

• 38:29Speaker 03

  I just feel like it was a. To me, like, it seems like if you had that on your screen now.

• 38:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:37Speaker 03

  You'd be like, that is either a virus.

• 38:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:39Speaker 03

  Or pornography.

• 38:39Speaker 04

  I think, yeah.

• 38:40Speaker 03

  Like, whereas, but, but everyone was so trusting in nineteen ninety-four.

• 38:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:44Speaker 03

  Why not treat, oh, okay.

• 38:45Speaker 04

  What's the worst?

• 38:46Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, oh, that sounds, that sounds thoroughly charming.

• 38:49Speaker 04

  What's the worst that could happen?

• 38:49Speaker 03

  I certainly will take a leap into the absolute unknown.

• 38:52Speaker 04

  What was that, do you know what?

• 38:54Speaker 03

  Forty-four percent, though.

• 38:55Speaker 04

  Do you know what website that was on?

• 38:56Speaker 03

  It was an advert for AT&T, and it was on Wired. It was on, it was then known as HotWired.com, but that then became Wired, it's Wired magazine, basically. I think that's right. So, it was basically, they actually, they had a series of adverts around that time, saying, uh, will you ever video call, like, your mum?

• 39:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:15Speaker 03

  You will. Like, it was, it was about the future, it was saying, like.

• 39:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:19Speaker 03

  Like, these things will come, so it was sort of, it was riffing off that, but, um. Yeah, it was, uh, yeah, and that was, uh, I suppose similar to the, you know, the coffee pot. You know, winning a kind of medal or something for, no, it wasn't, it was just, it was a well-known, it was sort of, it was loved, it was beloved, wasn't it, this coffee pot? So maybe it just wasn't very much on the internet, so it was like, oh, an advert? Well, that's new.

• 39:40Speaker 04

  It's novel.

• 39:41Speaker 03

  Oh, apparently people sent it to each other, though, have you seen this? Oh, you must see this, it's an advert.

• 39:47Speaker 04

  When you first started saying what the advert was for and you said, A, I got excited, because I was gonna say, was it AOL?

• 39:54Speaker 03

  Oh, interesting.

• 39:55Speaker 04

  American, America Online.

• 39:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, I mean.

• 39:59Speaker 04

  Do you remember you used to get, um, I don't know, I, do you know what, man?

• 40:03Speaker 03

  It was like, you don't, it was like dialing, it was like there was a little robot dialing the number.

• 40:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:09Speaker 03

  Why did they, you didn't need that sound, did it?

• 40:10Speaker 04

  You got a CD with.

• 40:12Speaker 03

  Oh, you did, didn't you?

• 40:14Speaker 04

  Like, it was like, you get sixty minutes of internet free.

• 40:17Speaker 03

  I love that. They implied that it was kind of hard to get. My school had a big campaign to try and get on the internet and they were like, and they very much implied that you weren't allowed on the internet unless you had a school website.

• 40:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:28Speaker 03

  And they're like, the website's finally finished and now, we, and we've just, we've been allowed on!

• 40:34Speaker 03

  It was like, what are you talking about?

• 40:35Speaker 04

  I remember when I was at school, I was in the library with my mate, and he was on the computer, and it, and it looked like, it looked like websites and stuff that you, that you would, this day and age, recognise as a website. And he was going to the librarian, who, and I don't know what it is about librarians.

• 40:53Speaker 03

  They're a bit grumpy, aren't they?

• 40:54Speaker 04

  They are, they're a bit grumpy.

• 40:55Speaker 03

  They don't like you taking the books out. You turn up to the counter with a load of books, they're like, what, you wanna take these away?

• 41:01Speaker 04

  But.

• 41:01Speaker 03

  Look after them then, because they haven't got many.

• 41:04Speaker 04

  But she would bite at everything, right?

• 41:07Speaker 03

  I meant literally bite.

• 41:08Speaker 04

  So he was on, he was, he was on the, the computer, and, um, he was going, miss, like talking to the librarian. Miss, am I on the internet? He was, he was going like that. And she was going, no, you're on, you're on the Intranet. She said that, and he went, whoa, I'm on the internet! She went, no, it's the Intranet! Like, she wouldn't let it go.

• 41:31Speaker 03

  Oh, I've never been really clear what the Intranet is. It took me quite a long time to realise that it wasn't just people getting it wrong.

• 41:38Speaker 04

  I feel like it's an internal internet was the Intranet. I'm getting nods.

• 41:42Speaker 03

  Intranet, yeah. Yeah, it's like if you're in a large organisation and you need to be able to share stuff internally.

• 41:50Speaker 04

  That was what the coffee pot was a.

• 41:53Speaker 03

  Started off with the Intranet, ended up with the internet.

• 41:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:55Speaker 03

  And then it was taken down.

• 41:57Speaker 04

  The Intranet?

• 41:58Speaker 03

  No, not the internet, not the Intranet, but the coffee pot.

• 42:00Speaker 04

  The coffee pot was taken down.

• 42:01Speaker 03

  Two thousand and one.

• 42:02Speaker 04

  Listen, man, I remember going to my mum's work when I was a kid in the nineties and so like that coffee pot thing was ninety one.

• 42:11Speaker 03

  To two thousand and one.

• 42:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, so my mum worked for the home office, right?

• 42:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 42:15Speaker 04

  And you think that's going to be pretty cutting edge, like it's an important government.

• 42:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 42:20Speaker 04

  I don't know, building, I don't know, right?

• 42:22Speaker 03

  Department?

• 42:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, department, right? She, I remember being a kid and watching her type something up, print it out, put it in like a little. For want of a better word, dildo, right? It looked like a sort of dildo, it was very phallic.

• 42:39Speaker 03

  There might be a better word.

• 42:40Speaker 04

  Right.

• 42:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, we definitely haven't got a better one.

• 42:47Speaker 04

  And put it in this tube and it just sort of, again.

• 42:50Speaker 03

  I love that.

• 42:51Speaker 04

  One for a better phrase, sucked it up, right?

• 42:53Speaker 03

  Sucked it up, up the, for want of a better word, anus.

• 43:00Speaker 04

  But, right, that's how, that's how, I don't know if that's a comment.

• 43:05Speaker 03

  That's amazing though.

• 43:05Speaker 04

  I don't know if that's a comment on how old me and you are now, because we're not old, are we? We're not old men, are we?

• 43:11Speaker 03

  We're not old men, I think.

• 43:12Speaker 04

  Or just how quickly technology has changed since we were children.

• 43:17Speaker 03

  A little of both, I think it's mostly just you cannot believe how old fashioned it would look if you went back to like two thousand and one. So you would just not, like most people without. You're more like not having a mobile phone.

• 43:29Speaker 04

  What's the, um, uh, what's the, uh, television network where it's all the old game shows and like all old catchphrase and stuff like.

• 43:37Speaker 03

  Challenge.

• 43:38Speaker 04

  Challenge TV. I, I fucking love Challenge TV. I love watching like, you know, Big Break and all that sort of stuff.

• 43:44Speaker 03

  Do they have Crystal Maze?

• 43:45Speaker 04

  I think they do have Crystal Maze on.

• 43:47Speaker 03

  That was a fun show.

• 43:48Speaker 04

  Me and Claire were watching it, like, uh, last year or something like that, a couple of years ago or something. And, um, and we were watching an old catchphrase and it was like, God, look at the state of them. When was this? 1972 or something?

• 44:01Speaker 03

  Oh, God, yeah.

• 44:01Speaker 04

  And it comes up. It was like first broadcast 2002.

• 44:04Speaker 03

  Oh, God, yeah.

• 44:05Speaker 04

  Oh, jeez.

• 44:06Speaker 03

  No, I know. No, honestly, it's really weird. Like, it, it, you, you don't have to go too far back for it to be like. You're like, oh, is this the 50s? Yeah, no, it's, I totally agree. But I think it's, but I do think large organisations take quite a long time to modernise.

• 44:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:22Speaker 03

  And, and maybe there's a case of like, if it works, stick with it.

• 44:27Speaker 04

  That's it. Yeah. They needed to, they needed information internally quickly.

• 44:32Speaker 03

  You know, I think.

• 44:33Speaker 04

  And it went round in pipes in the building.

• 44:35Speaker 03

  And it's fun as well, isn't it? I think. I'd love to work on that.

• 44:38Speaker 04

  Oh, no, I did. I did really used to like enjoy watching them like shooting around the pipes and stuff.

• 44:43Speaker 03

  I, I, I didn't even think that they were real. Honestly, I thought they were just from films like Arthur Christmas and stuff.

• 44:48Speaker 04

  No, cause I, cause there was also like a big stack of these.

• 44:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:52Speaker 04

  Well, I don't want to say dildo. It was, um.

• 44:54Speaker 03

  You don't have to.

• 44:55Speaker 04

  It was a huge stack of them.

• 44:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:56Speaker 04

  Because obviously like to send one message, you needed this pod.

• 45:00Speaker 03

  Oh, it's brilliant. Imagine if you made those and then you found out the Home Office wasn't using them anymore.

• 45:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 45:06Speaker 03

  And people are like, oh, we've got trouble. We've got to have to go into something else. We've got, we need to start making something else.

• 45:10Speaker 04

  The company that made those sort of suction AirPod internal, um, information things, they must have been making a killing for years.

• 45:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 45:19Speaker 04

  I bet they couldn't believe it when email came out. They were like, oh, we're fucked now, aren't we?

• 45:23Speaker 03

  I know, I know.

• 45:24Speaker 04

  I might try and find out a fact about them.

• 45:26Speaker 03

  That's a good thing.

• 45:27Speaker 04

  For, for you, for you next week, Joe.

• 45:29Speaker 03

  I would actually really like that. I'd love to. I'd, I'd, I would, cause they are. They are fascinating. And I think, and, and, and they're, they're fun. They make you, it honestly feels that someone's gone, "Let's have a bit of fun at work." Do you know what I mean? Like, it's a bit of a laugh, isn't it?

• 45:45Speaker 04

  We need this.

• 45:46Speaker 03

  We need it, come on.

• 45:47Speaker 04

  What's a fun way of solving this problem? Right, so what have we learnt this week, Joe? Cows have got accents. Coffee pot was the first camera.

• 45:55Speaker 03

  First webcam.

• 45:56Speaker 04

  And I've forgotten what yours was.

• 45:59Speaker 03

  The first banner advert.

• 46:00Speaker 04

  Oh, the first banner ad.

• 46:01Speaker 03

  With AT&T and 44% of people clicked on it.

• 46:03Speaker 04

  Anyway, I'm all fact out.

• 46:08Speaker 04

  If you haven't noticed, Joe, I've moved to the outro of today's podcast. That's all we have time for today. We, we hope that you've learned something or had a nice time.

• 46:20Speaker 03

  How could you have learned something?

• 46:21Speaker 04

  You don't, I mean, it doesn't matter. But we'll be back next week armed with more facts, chats and cow pats.

• 46:28Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 46:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, we're gonna, there's words.

• 46:33Speaker 04

  Should have proofread that.

• 46:34Speaker 03

  Do you wanna say, for want of a better word, cow pats? Is that what we're?

• 46:40Speaker 04

  Here is the important bit though.

• 46:41Speaker 03

  How are we already saying cow pats?

• 46:45Speaker 03

  For fuck's sake.

• 46:46Speaker 04

  Here's the important bit.

• 46:47Speaker 03

  We shouldn't ever say that. Shouldn't ever say it.

• 46:49Speaker 04

  I've got to say, I've got to get this bit out, Joe.

• 46:51Speaker 03

  Because if I saw one and someone was gonna tread in it, I wouldn't say it. I'd just let them tread in it.

• 46:55Speaker 04

  I've got to get this bit out. Don't forget that you can get in touch with us if you, if you'd like us to fact check something that feels true to you or with whatever nonsense you'd like to tell us about. Our email is at, is [email protected] or you can send us a WhatsApp on 07822 034 330 and our, uh...

• 47:21Speaker 03

  It's the shoveling of the papers, you see.

• 47:23Speaker 04

  No, we're, we're, I've been told that we're gonna have iPads next week. And our, um, our, our social.

• 47:32Speaker 04

  Our socials are Joe and James Pod on Instagram and TikTok. Guys, thank you. Man, hopefully you like that. I'm gonna be honest, Joe, just a little retrospect.

• 47:43Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 47:44Speaker 04

  Our first episode done. This could have been the best podcast you've ever listened to, or it could have been the worst. I don't think, and for want for a better word. I don't think there's any in between. Thanks for, thanks for watching the podcast.

• 47:58Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 48:00Speaker 02

  Joe and James. Joe and James. Joe and James. Joe and James, fucked up.

• 48:04Speaker 03

  And could I also add? Have you ever thought about listening to this podcast? You will.

• 48:14Speaker 03

  Right? It's just because of the advert.

• 48:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, it's a callback, it's a callback.

• 48:17Speaker 03

  It was, it did come across quite weird.

• 48:19Speaker 04

  How about, have you ever thought about listening to this podcast again?

• 48:22Speaker 03

  Oh, good point. Yeah, good point, actually, because they would have, otherwise they wouldn't have heard it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. And maybe I could just add, have you ever thought about listening to this podcast again? You will. I turn off the wink.

• 48:33Speaker 04

  Did you wink?

• 48:34Speaker 03

  No, no, don't, don't put a wink in. I'll do it again. I'm just talking to a camera. I'm saying, I'm saying to a camera, there's no one behind it, do it again.

• 48:41Speaker 04

  You jumped in straight away going, no, we can't wink.

• 48:45Speaker 03

  You can't wink on the internet anymore.

• 48:46Speaker 04

  No.

• 48:46Speaker 03

  Wink? I said wink.

• 48:48Speaker 04

  No, you can do something.

• 48:55Speaker 03

  Oh no. Okay, right, here we go.

• 48:57Speaker 04

  Go on, Joe.

• 48:59Speaker 03

  Have you ever thought about listening to this podcast again? You will.

• 49:07Speaker 03

  Oh no, that was even more creepy than the wink. Shall we do one more?

• 49:11Speaker 04

  No, we're done.

• 49:12Speaker 03

  No, that's fine, leave it, okay.

• 49:18Speaker 05

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• 49:24Speaker 06

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