Don't F*** with Trees

This Week Joe Thomas and James Buckley give their hot take on the Sycamore Gap Tree story, Joe shares why filming Fresh Meat was a nightmare and offer some sage advice on fire extinguisher use. Plus this week the Fact Boys decide if you cut a worm in half, will it split into two living parts… GET IN TOUCH: Whatsapp us - wa.me/447822034330 http://wa.me/447822034330 Fill in our Fact Up Form - https://forms.gle/uzF6XWPqaA5aNTtN7 Subscribe on Youtube - www.youtube.com/@JoeandJamesPod/videos http://www.youtube.com/@JoeandJamesPod/videos Follow us on Instagram - www.instagram.com/joeandjamespod http://www.instagram.com/joeandjamespod Follow us on TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@joeandjamespod http://www.tiktok.com/@joeandjamespod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 1:07Speaker 02

  Do you remember when I first got the iPhone and you get notifications and stuff?

• 1:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:11Speaker 02

  It'd be like Sky Sports or something like that. It was literally Sky Sports, BBC Sports.

• 1:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:16Speaker 02

  That was all my notifications.

• 1:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:17Speaker 02

  And it did just make me feel like I had friends.

• 1:20Speaker 03

  I know, it is. It's like it.

• 1:22Speaker 02

  Because your phone would just go off.

• 1:23Speaker 03

  Right, sorry, I better just, I better just handle this. Okay, so I'm awaiting the medical, are they? Bloody medical, yeah.

• 1:34Speaker 03

  I love when people go, the presenters go, we'll bring you obviously the latest on that as soon as we have it. And it's like, yeah, if you would, please, it's important. I know, it's important I know whether they are signing him or not. As soon as you got it, yeah? As soon as you've got it.

• 1:47Speaker 02

  Breaking news notifications are pointless, by the way.

• 1:50Speaker 03

  Which is news.

• 1:51Speaker 02

  Because it'd be like, breaking news.

• 1:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:52Speaker 02

  This person's just died.

• 1:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:54Speaker 02

  So you click on it to read what's gone on, and it just says, breaking news, this person's just died. More to follow.

• 2:01Speaker 03

  More to follow. But look, I try and, you know, detox from my phone sometimes. It doesn't last more than like thirty-five seconds. I'm just like, while I'm trying to do it. I'm on my phone.

• 2:13Speaker 02

  Yeah. Google, how do I do detox from my phone? Chat G P T.

• 2:18Speaker 03

  I just think is I do it, I do it when I'm anxious and I do it when I'm not anxious.

• 2:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:22Speaker 03

  It's, it's perfect. It's like, what should I do to calm down? Well, I'm already calm. Like, how should I celebrate being calm?

• 2:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:27Speaker 03

  It's, it's just awful.

• 2:29Speaker 02

  It was to stave off the anxiety, isn't it? Stave off? Is that a word?

• 2:34Speaker 03

  Stave off, yeah.

• 2:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:36Speaker 03

  But I saw a video about endorphins and, and it was endorphins, maybe endorphins or the little hit of, I think it is endorphins you get when you. It was a video on Instagram, like obviously ironically.

• 2:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:46Speaker 03

  You know, and I'm sure other people have probably seen it as well. Um, and um. It's this little kind of bird thing going along and it finds a little shiny object.

• 2:56Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:57Speaker 03

  And it goes, it kind of eats it and then it goes woo and it's floating and it's wonderful.

• 3:03Speaker 02

  Right.

• 3:03Speaker 03

  In fact, I think the first time it sees it ignores it. And then the second time it's, and, and that basically that's the hit that you get when you. I don't know, are on Instagram, right? And you.

• 3:14Speaker 02

  I just do a little tiny bit of um shoplifting.

• 3:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:19Speaker 02

  And that keeps me.

• 3:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:20Speaker 02

  That keeps the adrenaline running.

• 3:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I am.

• 3:23Speaker 02

  Just a tiny bit.

• 3:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, just, just a little bit.

• 3:26Speaker 02

  Just to keep things real, just to feel on the edge.

• 3:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, no, no, me too. I go, I find um, I find an abandoned building and I just burn it down.

• 3:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:36Speaker 03

  And I know, and then I, I know like, they, no one knows who did it, but I know it was me.

• 3:39Speaker 02

  Little bit of arson.

• 3:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, just a little bit.

• 3:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:43Speaker 03

  Oh, just, ah, I'm just trying to, you know, take the edge off and, and.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  If there's a really like historically old tree, I'll just chop that down straight.

• 3:52Speaker 03

  Those guys were, I love what those guys were, they were texting each other off. They, they chopped the tree down and you're like, well, presumably you've only done that to create an impression. And then when they're, then when it's on the news, they're texting each other going, here we fucking go. And you're like, yes, here we go. Yes. But I mean, yes, here we go. Yes, the thing you did to make an impression, there we go. Oh, here we go. Oh, it's in the news now. You're like, yeah. The thing you did to presumably be in the news is in the news and you're going, oh. In the news. Ah, that was, I don't know what.

• 4:29Speaker 02

  Did they get done? Did they get any, did they get any jail time, any prison sentences?

• 4:33Speaker 03

  I think maybe they did get jail time. Don't chop down, people quite like trees. They've really miscalculated. They've miscalculated. I think, I think almost the only thing that everyone in Britain agrees on is that we like trees. I don't, I really don't think you're gonna find many people who don't like trees.

• 4:47Speaker 02

  People hate it, don't they? If they move in, if someone moves into a house where there's a big old tree.

• 4:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:52Speaker 02

  And then they move in, they're like, get rid of that. The whole, that's it, man.

• 4:55Speaker 03

  No.

• 4:56Speaker 04

  They were sentenced to four years and three months in prison.

• 4:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:00Speaker 02

  There's tree death.

• 5:01Speaker 04

  A tree death.

• 5:01Speaker 03

  You would have to say an absolute pair of plonkers.

• 5:05Speaker 02

  I know.

• 5:05Speaker 03

  You fucking idiots.

• 5:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:08Speaker 03

  What are you doing?

• 5:09Speaker 02

  So pointless.

• 5:09Speaker 03

  So pointless. I can't even, it's not even like there's a narrow window where it goes well. I think there's no window where it goes well.

• 5:16Speaker 02

  They have some kind of points approved, did they? Were they?

• 5:19Speaker 03

  Well, what they said, didn't they say something like, oh, no one else would have the minerals to do this? And you're like, but it's like, oh, well, yeah, but he's like saying, yeah, because it's a terrible, horrible thing to do. Like, the fact that it's maybe slightly brave in some perverse way.

• 5:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:35Speaker 03

  Is stupid. It's like saying, oh, God, oh, no one else would have the minerals to chop off their own head, but I did. You're like, well, yeah, it probably did take minerals, but it's still fucking stupid.

• 5:44Speaker 02

  They did.

• 5:45Speaker 04

  I've got it here. It says, um, it says they were just detoxing from their phones.

• 5:49Speaker 02

  Is that what it was?

• 5:52Speaker 04

  One thing led to another.

• 5:53Speaker 03

  Oh, I knew it. I knew it.

• 5:55Speaker 02

  That is just work, though, as well.

• 5:57Speaker 03

  I know.

• 5:58Speaker 02

  Like, I know.

• 5:59Speaker 03

  They were tree surgeons. Well, they were tree surgeons. Basically, they went to work. They're like, what should we do? Let's go to work.

• 6:06Speaker 02

  It's my mate's dad chopped down a tree in their garden and then the stump became a problem for years.

• 6:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 6:13Speaker 02

  Constantly, God, get rid of that stump. I don't know how I'm gonna get rid of it.

• 6:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know, because they go. Well, here's a, we haven't done, we could do tree facts, so I'll do this little bonus tree fact.

• 6:23Speaker 02

  Give us a little bonus.

• 6:24Speaker 03

  This is just for Instagram. This is just, now everyone knows this already. But if you want to draw a tree.

• 6:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:30Speaker 03

  The width of the trunk is always the same as the width of the three principal branches added together. So if your trunk's that.

• 6:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:37Speaker 03

  Your branches should be like that, that and that. And then it will look in proportion.

• 6:40Speaker 04

  That'll be nice for the audio listeners.

• 6:43Speaker 03

  Oh, Lily May, what a.

• 6:45Speaker 02

  When are we, when's the video going on Spotify? Are we doing that?

• 6:49Speaker 04

  Uh, well, some have appeared on there already.

• 6:52Speaker 02

  Is that right?

• 6:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:53Speaker 02

  Why some?

• 6:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, sort of.

• 6:57Speaker 02

  Sort of.

• 6:58Speaker 03

  Sort of. What does that mean? It's like the early days of radio.

• 7:01Speaker 02

  This is good, isn't it?

• 7:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:03Speaker 02

  A slick operation.

• 7:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:06Speaker 02

  I have written over the last few months, Joey, little, what I call in-betweeners memories, which I think people would, would enjoy.

• 7:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, I think people would enjoy them.

• 7:16Speaker 02

  So we'll get into those in the next podcast.

• 7:19Speaker 03

  Nice.

• 7:19Speaker 02

  Can't be bothered to do it right now.

• 7:20Speaker 03

  What about now, obviously?

• 7:22Speaker 02

  Um.

• 7:22Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 7:23Speaker 02

  A lot of them are about the show and a lot of them about.

• 7:29Speaker 02

  The funny stuff happened when we weren't, well, when we were, I say weren't making it, when we were supposed to be making it.

• 7:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, when we were wasting.

• 7:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:36Speaker 03

  Their time and money.

• 7:37Speaker 02

  Time and money.

• 7:38Speaker 03

  Time is money.

• 7:40Speaker 02

  Just constantly getting told we're losing the sun. All we were told, come on guys, we're losing the sun now.

• 7:48Speaker 03

  And all the clouds, they'd always commit to either the sun's out or the sun's behind a cloud. And then you'd be like, and that always been a day where the sky was just a patchwork of clouds. And you'd be like, well.

• 7:56Speaker 02

  Britain is the worst fucking country to shoot outside in.

• 8:00Speaker 03

  Yeah. Imagine trying to do something in Manchester where it's like you get cloud, rain, sun every day. You just couldn't like, even, so we were at least.

• 8:08Speaker 02

  Is that where fresh meat was?

• 8:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, that's a lot that was in the studio. But yeah, it was like every day you're like, what's the weather? You were like, what are you, what are you talking about? It's meaningless comment. Yeah. Everything.

• 8:18Speaker 03

  The weather is everything. So what we weren't, but yeah, it was still quite bad. The other thing was planes, wasn't it? We were like, let's film beneath the world's busiest flight path.

• 8:27Speaker 02

  We had a couple of weeks, I think it was.

• 8:32Speaker 02

  I've got memories of it. I don't really remember actually filming the in-betweeners that much. Or the episodes, or the other people that were in it. Or like I've got, I think, I mean, I've.

• 8:44Speaker 03

  Because our story of it is really in a, it was about the order in which we shot it, which is not the order of the story order. So I'm like, oh yeah, well first of all.

• 8:54Speaker 02

  You don't, you don't know what it's gonna come out like. You never know. But do you remember, is it the third series? Uh, and we were talking about it in a recent episode, um, because that chap, was it Joe again that wrote in? And he tried to have a tactical wank.

• 9:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  Um, that episode, when we were shooting that episode, um, we were outside on the doorstep and it was the whole she shit down my arm.

• 9:18Speaker 03

  Yes, that's right.

• 9:19Speaker 02

  And why did you say vagina? That whole scene. And, um, you've got to watch it, Kate. It's really good. And, uh,

• 9:28Speaker 02

  but I remember that whole week, like we were shooting outside and stuff and that Iceland volcano had gone off.

• 9:33Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 9:34Speaker 02

  So they just grounded flights for ages. There was no planes in the sky. And we were, everyone was just like, this is fucking brilliant, isn't it?

• 9:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:40Speaker 02

  No planes.

• 9:41Speaker 03

  It's good, Joe, they didn't look into that volcano because, you know, quo, quo, quo bono. Do you know what I mean?

• 9:48Speaker 02

  Quo bono?

• 9:49Speaker 03

  Very, is that what it is? Who benefits?

• 9:51Speaker 02

  Pro bono?

• 9:52Speaker 03

  No, what I'm saying is like, who, who benefited from that? Volcano, do you know what I mean? Is it a coincidence that it just happened to go off when we were filming? Oh yeah, yeah, sure. It naturally went off. It wasn't, uh, there's no underhand stuff.

• 10:06Speaker 02

  Right. Be careful, Joe Rogan.

• 10:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:13Speaker 02

  No, that was good, that. I feel like it was just because you'd have Richard and Bob just going, right, we've got to stop. Plane, plane coming in. Thirty seconds, thirty seconds on the plane.

• 10:22Speaker 03

  Yeah. It's amazing that any television gets made, in my view. Like, they're so small, the windows where you can actually do anything. You're like, okay, sun's out, I was a plane, the plane stopped, oh, the sun's gone in.

• 10:33Speaker 02

  But we shoot, you shoot in one direction and the sun's out.

• 10:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:36Speaker 02

  And that's, that, that's locked in then.

• 10:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:39Speaker 02

  And then to turn around, the sun also has to be out again.

• 10:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. I swear it did.

• 10:44Speaker 02

  This can't go in a podcast. This is terrible.

• 10:47Speaker 04

  I've got something in here.

• 10:48Speaker 03

  I've got a podcast, I've got a podcast that can go in.

• 10:50Speaker 02

  Go on. What?

• 10:52Speaker 03

  Well, no, I mean, I know there's a podcast that's at that level, if you want it to go in.

• 10:56Speaker 02

  Can we, can we just?

• 10:59Speaker 03

  Weather.

• 11:00Speaker 02

  Can we just listen to the Ricky Gervais XFM show?

• 11:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:03Speaker 02

  We just do that. That's one of the reasons why I'm in a bad mood, because I'm recently going through all those again.

• 11:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:09Speaker 02

  And I absolutely fucking love it. It's been a few years since I've listened.

• 11:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're, they're fantastic.

• 11:13Speaker 02

  Left my fucking headphones at home.

• 11:16Speaker 03

  That is annoying. That is up there.

• 11:20Speaker 02

  But, because I can't be alone with my thoughts.

• 11:24Speaker 03

  No, I agree.

• 11:25Speaker 02

  I can't do it.

• 11:25Speaker 03

  I sometimes put the headphones in and forget to put a podcast on because the Pavlovian response is that it calms me down. I'm like, where the fucking hell, where are they, where are they? Oh, thank God. And then it's like I'm listening, I'm like, oh, yeah. And there's nothing on.

• 11:38Speaker 02

  I can't be alone with my thoughts, which is why I bring a little gadget with me. It's called a Steam Deck.

• 11:45Speaker 03

  Yes, okay.

• 11:46Speaker 02

  And you can play video games on it, right? Such a baby. I've got to grow up. Nearly forty. When the fuck am I going to grow up?

• 11:52Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, well, it's not gonna happen. I mean, I only say that because I am forty-two and it doesn't. No, it's just to...

• 11:58Speaker 02

  Well, that's the thing as well. You've always been a couple of years older than me. So I've always seen you, and I've known you since I was nineteen.

• 12:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:04Speaker 02

  So I've always been like, that's the guy. That's a, like, you've been like a mate's older brother, in a way. Like, that's what I'm aiming for.

• 12:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:12Speaker 02

  Terrible, um, influence on me.

• 12:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, yeah, you don't, no, you don't want to, you don't want to, you don't want to follow me. No, I mean, that's, yeah, that's, yeah.

• 12:25Speaker 02

  But, yeah, I've got my little gadget with me. That wasn't charged. I was gutted. I was furious on the train.

• 12:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:33Speaker 02

  Just watching the rain.

• 12:36Speaker 03

  I think.

• 12:36Speaker 02

  It's awful.

• 12:37Speaker 03

  I think there's an, there's an adjacent experience, which is when you, not that I've been to the gym for fucking ages, but like, when you go to the gym and you come out and like you shower and then you haven't got your deodorant.

• 12:51Speaker 02

  Never shower at the gym.

• 12:53Speaker 03

  Don't you?

• 12:53Speaker 02

  No.

• 12:54Speaker 03

  I love showering at the gym.

• 12:55Speaker 02

  No, I just go straight home, jump in my own shower.

• 12:58Speaker 03

  Oh, always shower at the gym.

• 12:59Speaker 02

  Do you really?

• 13:00Speaker 03

  I love showering at the gym.

• 13:01Speaker 02

  Do, are people not trying to talk to you and stuff while you're trying to sort of?

• 13:04Speaker 03

  I don't, I, they don't know, they don't, they don't, I like, I like communing with my fellow man. I honestly, genuinely like it.

• 13:11Speaker 02

  I do as well.

• 13:11Speaker 03

  I, I genuinely, I don't know whether this is, I like the nudity. I like, I, I like it. I feel there's a democracy to it. I like looking at the other penises.

• 13:21Speaker 02

  No, that's the thing as well, like men's changing rooms at the gym.

• 13:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:24Speaker 02

  I don't know what women's changing rooms are like. God knows, I've tried.

• 13:28Speaker 04

  That's nudity.

• 13:31Speaker 02

  Keep getting.

• 13:32Speaker 03

  This is my.

• 13:33Speaker 02

  I'm on my, I'm on my fourth different gym now. I keep getting banned. Just, it's knobs everywhere. It's knobs everywhere. And I don't mean like they're knobs.

• 13:41Speaker 03

  But it's also the guys who are like.

• 13:42Speaker 02

  Penises.

• 13:43Speaker 04

  Knobs and knobs.

• 13:44Speaker 03

  But it's weird, isn't it, that, that like, obviously I don't, I like the fact that there's no pressure to put clothes on.

• 13:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:53Speaker 03

  I don't, you know, wave it about. Like, I, I, I try and keep it under wraps.

• 13:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 13:59Speaker 03

  It's not out for longer than it needs to be.

• 14:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:01Speaker 03

  But some guys just.

• 14:02Speaker 02

  Unless I'm with you, I don't want to shower with anyone else.

• 14:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's right. But some blokes are, I mean, it's like they, it's like the last thing they do is cover them.

• 14:16Speaker 02

  Oh, absolutely. Yeah, they'll be like doing their hair and stuff.

• 14:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, walking about.

• 14:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:30Speaker 02

  Joe and James, Joe and James, Joe and James, Joe and James, fucked up. Hello and welcome. Jesus Christ. Welcome to Joe and James Fact Up. Each week we bring one another a fact that we deem interesting and our policy is the more interesting, the more true it is. We'll also dig into the weird things that you'd like to think are true but don't want to do the research yourself in a segment we're calling Fact Check. So if you do want to send us some facts, you do get involved. Anything. Doesn't have to be facts, is it?

• 14:59Speaker 03

  Whatever you want.

• 14:59Speaker 04

  I wondered whether some of the listeners send in some themes, suggested themes for our episodes as well. I thought that could be nice.

• 15:06Speaker 03

  Or if they could just privately send us the facts that we read out because it's quite annoying having to research them all the time.

• 15:13Speaker 02

  That'd be good.

• 15:13Speaker 04

  Just completely far out of the format.

• 15:15Speaker 02

  If they could record a podcast.

• 15:17Speaker 03

  They could record a podcast.

• 15:18Speaker 02

  And send it to us through WhatsApp.

• 15:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I don't want them taking the credit. So I'll have a little earpiece in and then I'll have somebody better.

• 15:24Speaker 02

  No, I don't want to do that. That's too much work.

• 15:26Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 15:26Speaker 02

  But they have to call themselves Joe and James.

• 15:28Speaker 03

  They call themselves, yeah, okay.

• 15:29Speaker 02

  And we'll put, we'll just put that out and say, oh, I mean, it won't be any worse.

• 15:32Speaker 03

  Yeah. It can't be.

• 15:35Speaker 02

  Can't.

• 15:36Speaker 03

  It can't be.

• 15:37Speaker 02

  I won't be happy until we are the worst podcast.

• 15:44Speaker 02

  That's what I'm aiming for.

• 15:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, so if you want to send anything to us, facts, funny stories, maybe a bit of advice, maybe you want some advice from me and Joe.

• 15:57Speaker 03

  We had that beard thing, didn't we, for me? But that...

• 16:00Speaker 02

  What was that?

• 16:01Speaker 03

  Somebody told me that I should like inject caffeine into my face or something.

• 16:04Speaker 04

  Oh, the beard shampoo?

• 16:06Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 16:07Speaker 04

  But James, are you suggesting that you give advice to the listeners?

• 16:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, if you want, if you need some advice, maybe you're in a bit of a pickle. Maybe you need some relationship advice.

• 16:17Speaker 03

  Yeah. Don't hit up AI. Hit up two actual humans.

• 16:21Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 16:22Speaker 03

  All right, we've got...

• 16:23Speaker 02

  Don't spy on women in the changing rooms.

• 16:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, don't be doing that. No peeping. Cut out the peeping.

• 16:31Speaker 02

  But you can...

• 16:33Speaker 03

  Cut out the peeping.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  What's wrong with peeping?

• 16:35Speaker 03

  Just cut out the peeping.

• 16:37Speaker 02

  Oh, sorry. I thought you

• 16:38Speaker 03

  Oh, I see.

• 16:38Speaker 02

  I thought you were saying we need to cut out peeping in this episode.

• 16:41Speaker 03

  Oh, peeping? No, no, you've got, you must pee pee.

• 16:44Speaker 02

  That's not what I said. Right. Email us. Our email is hello.

• 16:49Speaker 03

  Do we understand each other anymore? Or we don't seem to, we seem to be at cross purposes.

• 16:53Speaker 02

  We don't understand each other.

• 16:55Speaker 03

  Oh, no, it's gone.

• 16:56Speaker 02

  Our email address is hello at joeandjamespod.com. Our WhatsApp number is 07822 034330. You can follow us on our socials, joeandjamespod. You can also message us on that. And you can watch all of our episodes on YouTube. Search for Joe and James Fact Up on YouTube. You can watch our episodes and sort of some of the episodes on Spotify as well.

• 17:23Speaker 03

  Check that out. Go and see what that means.

• 17:25Speaker 02

  Right. Now, let's get fact up.

• 17:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, the house is, um, you know, I think, I think the house might be a kind of multi-generational, project, like it will be completed by my great, great, like granddaughter or something.

• 17:44Speaker 02

  Well, no, yeah.

• 17:45Speaker 03

  It's, um, you know, the Sagrada Familia in Barcelona, this, this cathedral that they,

• 17:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:51Speaker 03

  they still haven't finished it. Like every generation adds a bit.

• 17:54Speaker 02

  It's like 500 years or something. They've been building this thing.

• 17:57Speaker 03

  So it's gonna, it's a bit like that. But yeah.

• 17:58Speaker 02

  I thought they had finished it. I thought they'd recently finished it. I feel like I saw something on Instagram. It was like, finally fucking done it.

• 18:05Speaker 03

  I think they shouldn't finish it because the whole thing about it now is that, that they, yeah, just, without thinking it's not meant to be finished.

• 18:13Speaker 02

  Barcelona is like SimCity.

• 18:16Speaker 03

  I'm gonna have to say go on, I think.

• 18:17Speaker 02

  No, because if you, if you look at Bar, if you get like a satellite view of Barcelona,

• 18:21Speaker 03

  Oh, I see.

• 18:21Speaker 02

  it is so satisfying.

• 18:25Speaker 03

  Oh, I see.

• 18:26Speaker 02

  The layout of it.

• 18:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's, yeah. It's got the, um, it's on a grid, isn't it?

• 18:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:32Speaker 02

  Really good Barcelona.

• 18:33Speaker 03

  It's a great city.

• 18:35Speaker 02

  I don't know how they did that. They must have done that so early on. Because London's all, and, and any town and city in Britain is all squiggly, all over the place because it was just dirt tracks.

• 18:48Speaker 03

  It's like where, it's basically like where the pony felt like walking.

• 18:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:51Speaker 03

  They're like, oh, it's, that's gone down there.

• 18:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:54Speaker 03

  Right, there's the road, the horse has gone down there.

• 18:57Speaker 02

  And also, like, that's only until quite recent, like, that's modern history, but, but, but cars not that old, is it really? When you, when you're looking at history.

• 19:06Speaker 03

  It's interesting to have a grid without cars.

• 19:09Speaker 02

  The place you're living in now, Joe.

• 19:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:10Speaker 02

  Again, I've not been there yet. I've got to go around just to, just to sort of put, put it in my head.

• 19:17Speaker 03

  Well, it's a house.

• 19:18Speaker 02

  Cause you're, cause you're, cause it's a big chunk of your life at the moment is the house that you live in now. How long have you been there now?

• 19:24Speaker 03

  Two years and we've just recently managed to kind of do up two rooms.

• 19:31Speaker 02

  Right.

• 19:32Speaker 03

  So it, it's taken ages.

• 19:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:36Speaker 03

  The gar-, I mean, it's got a back garden. I've, I just genuinely never go in there. Like, I haven't got, when I, when I, when we moved, cause I'm an idiot, I was like, well, I'll probably spend quite a lot of time gardening.

• 19:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:47Speaker 03

  And it's like, no, you've got a fucking new, like, baby daughter.

• 19:52Speaker 02

  They take up a lot of time.

• 19:53Speaker 03

  Like, you're not retiring, you fucking idiot. Like, you're, like, so, and, and it's got me like, one of my, one of my birthday presents when I moved in, my parents bought me all these kind of spades and shovels and stuff. They're like, oh, I think Joe's gonna be.

• 20:05Speaker 02

  Your mum's a keen gardener, isn't she?

• 20:06Speaker 03

  She's a very good gardener, actually. She's, she's, she's a good gardener. Uh, but like my garden, I feel so embarrassed by it. Like, if, like, footballs have come into our garden and no one ever comes and knocks for them because our garden looks like it belongs to like a mental old bloke.

• 20:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:21Speaker 03

  Who's like, it, it, it's overrun. It's, I've never mowed the grass.

• 20:25Speaker 02

  Don't go to old man Joe's.

• 20:26Speaker 03

  Don't go to old man Joe's. I've never mowed the grass.

• 20:27Speaker 02

  He eats children.

• 20:28Speaker 03

  At the back of, at the, it's basically been re-, there's a fox that I would say just is sort of squatting in it. Like, as in it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's pad.

• 20:38Speaker 02

  Crack fox.

• 20:40Speaker 03

  A, what?

• 20:40Speaker 02

  Is it a crack fox?

• 20:41Speaker 03

  A crack fox. What's that mean?

• 20:43Speaker 02

  Oh, you're not seeing it from the bush.

• 20:45Speaker 03

  It is a crack, I, I, I can already say that it is a crack fox. It's only got one eye.

• 20:50Speaker 02

  You know like those urban foxes, that's what I grew up with, urban foxes. They weren't like glorious sort of ginger, golden, uh, so, uh, country foxes.

• 21:00Speaker 03

  No, they're, they're scrawny motherfuckers.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  They'd gone through the mill.

• 21:04Speaker 03

  They have, yeah.

• 21:04Speaker 02

  They'd lived a life.

• 21:05Speaker 03

  This fox looks like it's been on a pirate ship or something.

• 21:08Speaker 02

  Screaming at night.

• 21:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, they all, I just, yeah, fuck me, yeah. When there's cats as well, isn't it? They're like, ah, ah, you're like, what's that? And he's like, I think it's, is it a cat mating? Be like, well, it sounds horrible. Um, uh, anyway, so that, yeah, it's like, I feel like a bit of a sort of, um, a bit of a kind of savage. Like, we've, we've got the, the, the fence at the back of our garden now has just fallen down in like the winter.

• 21:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:38Speaker 03

  And I'm like, I don't know what to do about that, man. I don't know how to fix a fence. There used to be a garden bench in our garden that we inherited.

• 21:48Speaker 02

  It's a good place to keep a garden hedge.

• 21:50Speaker 03

  And it just immediately fell apart. Like, we sat on it, it fell apart. And then basically what I'm doing it is I'm, um, what I'm doing with it is I'm,

• 22:00Speaker 03

  and this just feels a bit like, it feels kind of vaguely desecrating it, but I'm burning it bit by bit.

• 22:05Speaker 02

  You've got one of those bins?

• 22:06Speaker 03

  I've got a wood burner.

• 22:08Speaker 02

  Right, oh, oh, what, in the house?

• 22:08Speaker 03

  And so I'm just burning, yeah. And then also I took down some shelves before Christmas and like,

• 22:12Speaker 02

  Just chuck some of the fire.

• 22:13Speaker 03

  I'm burning them as well. So I just feel like, I could like, the people who bought our house, I'm like, basically what I'm doing is I'm burning all their old stuff.

• 22:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:20Speaker 03

  Burning it.

• 22:21Speaker 02

  See, the house from what you're talking.

• 22:22Speaker 03

  Not in a loving way, like I'm not, but the house is in, the house, but the house is gonna look really nice when it's finished.

• 22:26Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying.

• 22:27Speaker 03

  Yeah. When it's finished, it's gonna look amazing.

• 22:28Speaker 02

  This house that you bought, it's, it sounds incredible.

• 22:30Speaker 03

  It's an amazing house, yeah.

• 22:31Speaker 02

  It's an old house, it's very, very traditional.

• 22:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:34Speaker 02

  But it is a doer-upper.

• 22:37Speaker 03

  And we didn't quite realise that it was a doer-upper.

• 22:39Speaker 02

  It's so much work.

• 22:40Speaker 03

  Basically.

• 22:41Speaker 02

  It ends fucking marriages and stuff, all that kind of shit.

• 22:43Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Unless it's, unless it's like, and this is good advice to anyone, you know, buying a house.

• 22:52Speaker 03

  Everything is a doer-upper unless it's absolutely fucking perfect.

• 22:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:56Speaker 03

  Like unless it's literally a turnkey and you go in and like it's brand new, they've just renovated it and you like the renovation.

• 23:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:04Speaker 03

  That's not a doer-upper. Every single other house is a doer-upper.

• 23:07Speaker 02

  That'll never happen. That's like a holy, that's a holy grail of, of house.

• 23:12Speaker 03

  I think we did see one that, that was that and we were like, I think we'd quite like to do up a house though, wouldn't we?

• 23:19Speaker 02

  See, my problem is-

• 23:19Speaker 03

  You don't want to do up a house.

• 23:21Speaker 02

  My problem is is that-

• 23:21Speaker 03

  Don't do up a house.

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• 24:04Speaker 05

  Welcome to 215 Maple Drive. We just put this property on the market.

• 24:10Speaker 06

  Love the crown molding.

• 24:12Speaker 05

  Oh, wait until you see the walk-in closets and the bathroom tile.

• 24:15Speaker 06

  Does it have Verizon FiOS? You know, 100% fiber internet?

• 24:19Speaker 05

  No FiOS, but it looks like it's got cable. Let's check out the kitchen.

• 24:23Speaker 06

  No FiOS? Yeah, no, thank you.

• 24:26Speaker 05

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• 24:29Speaker 07

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• 25:13Speaker 02

  Quentin's here, is that right?

• 25:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:15Speaker 03

  No, what Quentin's here?

• 25:18Speaker 02

  Is it Quentin or working class Quentin?

• 25:20Speaker 04

  So, so the, the letter heading is working class Quentin.

• 25:24Speaker 03

  Oh, it's.

• 25:24Speaker 02

  Right.

• 25:25Speaker 04

  From Quentin. Oh, sorry. It's because it says an on there, doesn't it?

• 25:27Speaker 02

  Yeah. Oh, it is from Quentin?

• 25:29Speaker 04

  It is from Quentin.

• 25:31Speaker 02

  Via Fact Up form?

• 25:33Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 25:33Speaker 02

  What does that mean?

• 25:33Speaker 04

  We have a form that people can fill in with their Fact Up facts.

• 25:36Speaker 02

  How do they get to that?

• 25:37Speaker 03

  It's in our. Any post office. It's just any post office. It's, it's, um, but not the one that sells you the stamps. It's, I think it's the foreign currency counter, right? That's where you get, yeah, okay.

• 25:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:46Speaker 02

  Bureau de Change.

• 25:47Speaker 03

  It's the Bureau de Change. Get in back inside the Bureau de Change.

• 25:51Speaker 02

  Go on then, walk. The lull of your walk. I've got people queuing up to work in this Bureau de Change.

• 26:00Speaker 02

  The bureau. That's the day to day, isn't it?

• 26:02Speaker 03

  So good. So good.

• 26:05Speaker 02

  What about me? Do I look cool? Well, do I? Do I?

• 26:09Speaker 03

  Am I cool, kids?

• 26:10Speaker 02

  Do I really look cool? Right.

• 26:14Speaker 02

  I'll read it, shall I? Um, all right, lads. My name is Quentin. And if you recall back to the first episode, Joe said, there is no working class person called Quentin.

• 26:23Speaker 03

  Oh, I see.

• 26:24Speaker 02

  To which James agreed. So I am actually here to fact check you both because I am as working class as they come. I'm living proof that your statement was false, but if there is some secret club of Quentin's that gets me higher up in the world, then I am all for it and eagerly await my invite. We found a working class Quentin.

• 26:45Speaker 03

  Well, I'd like to know more about this. I'd like to know.

• 26:47Speaker 02

  That's what I need to know.

• 26:47Speaker 03

  Why are you called Quentin?

• 26:48Speaker 02

  Do you know what, man? Like, so many people think they are working class. It's like, no, I'm working class. I'm sort of the earth.

• 26:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 26:55Speaker 02

  And, uh, and they're called Quentin.

• 26:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:57Speaker 02

  And then you want to go, oh, no, hang on a minute.

• 26:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:00Speaker 02

  You've never had a turkey twizzler in your life?

• 27:02Speaker 03

  No.

• 27:03Speaker 02

  I want to know what your parents did for a living. I want to know the area you grew up in.

• 27:08Speaker 03

  But also I'd like to know if, and conversely, if you are, you know, proper working class.

• 27:13Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 27:14Speaker 03

  Why, and not, not, you're, you're allowed to, I'm not saying you're not allowed to be. I'm just interested in the, um, the, like, why, why Quentin? It's an unusual name for anyone. I'd just be interested to know, was it, were you named after a Quentin? Or is it just that your parents liked the sound of it? I'd just be interested to know.

• 27:32Speaker 02

  Quentin Crisp? Who's that?

• 27:36Speaker 03

  Quentin Crisp? Quentin Blake, I think, would be basically like Roald Dahl's illustrator.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  Wasn't Quentin Crisp the guy from Top Gear, the original Top Gear, the 90s Top Gear?

• 27:46Speaker 03

  No, that was a different, that was Quentin, and he died recently. Quentin Crisp was, I think, maybe a kind of elder statesman of the Conservative Party, something like that? Is that, is that correct?

• 27:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's, he's referred to as an English raconteur.

• 27:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, right, yes, that's right. He was one of those chaps, a bit like, um.

• 28:03Speaker 02

  It must have been, he must have been mentioned in The Young Ones or something like that, because there's no way.

• 28:08Speaker 04

  I think, now you've said this, I think we had, ages ago, you had some names that you mixed up, and it was from The Young Ones.

• 28:17Speaker 02

  Right.

• 28:17Speaker 04

  And we got to the bottom of it, that it was completely the wrong name, and Quentin Crisp was the actual name from the quotes. And I think that's where you pulled Quentin Crisp from.

• 28:25Speaker 03

  You, you should never watch The Young Ones, it sent you spiralling out of control, you're, you're just pinging through the universe now. You're like, what's that over there? What's that over there?

• 28:34Speaker 02

  What, what, what I shouldn't have done was be obsessed with The Young Ones at the age of like eight years old.

• 28:40Speaker 03

  That's a bit young, yeah, for the young one. Also, it's funny when you, you're exposed to stuff that like, there's no way you could get the references. Like, we did a play called Art when I was at school, and that's about how, when you're in your 40s, you realise that you're no really on the same ground culturally, and sort of maybe politically as the people you went to university with.

• 29:07Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 29:08Speaker 03

  So I love the idea that that was given to us as a load of 16-year-olds, being like, hey, lads, lads, you're 16, you know how like, 20 years after you've been to university? A very, very specific situation, you know what that's like.

• 29:22Speaker 02

  You know all those ideas you've got right now?

• 29:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 29:25Speaker 02

  Imagine, imagine abandoning those, because you just want to be sensible, and then, and then you end up in this play.

• 29:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, but it's weird, I just, it's funny what, it's funny what is like.

• 29:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't know, I don't, it was, it's, it's some of the stuff that you,

• 29:44Speaker 03

  that you get.

• 29:46Speaker 03

  On the other hand, I think it's, you know, it's a, it's a lovely sort of cross pollination and I'm sure that watching the young ones when you were eight actually probably, it doesn't really matter that you, I mean, you presumably weren't actually either sort of pro or against Thatcher when you were eight, but so you probably, uh.

• 30:02Speaker 02

  Well, no, I was, I was against.

• 30:04Speaker 03

  Against, yeah.

• 30:05Speaker 02

  I didn't know anything about her or.

• 30:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, me too.

• 30:08Speaker 02

  Do you know what I mean?

• 30:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:09Speaker 02

  But it was just like, they took the piss out of Thatcher and so I was like, yeah.

• 30:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 30:13Speaker 02

  Didn't know anything about her at all whatsoever.

• 30:15Speaker 03

  Yeah. And it's funny, I mean, I think I remember listening to Alan Partridge when I was a kid and I didn't really understand that it was a satire of a certain sort of talk radio host.

• 30:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:26Speaker 03

  I thought it was funny.

• 30:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:28Speaker 03

  And a little bit rude and I, that was enough, but I didn't quite, I, I didn't, I knew that Alan Partridge was funny, but I didn't really quite know what it was that it was taking off. I, I, I was like.

• 30:37Speaker 02

  I remember I watched I'm Alan Partridge first.

• 30:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:40Speaker 02

  And then I sort of went retroactively.

• 30:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:43Speaker 02

  As a kid, as a teenager.

• 30:45Speaker 03

  Oh, okay.

• 30:46Speaker 02

  I was like, oh, um, knowing me, knowing you.

• 30:48Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 30:49Speaker 02

  Went into that and then I got into the, the day to day.

• 30:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:52Speaker 02

  And I was like, oh, fucking hell, there's all a load of radio shows about this as well.

• 30:55Speaker 03

  Yes, there are, yes. Whether he holds up his notes. What's that? Cobweb.

• 31:01Speaker 02

  Cobweb.

• 31:04Speaker 02

  You've lost the news. Oh, Hanra, Hanran.

• 31:08Speaker 03

  Peter Hanran, yeah. Good stuff.

• 31:11Speaker 02

  He said.

• 31:13Speaker 02

  He actually said that to you, did he?

• 31:16Speaker 02

  Peter, you've lost the news. Right, um.

• 31:19Speaker 03

  Leaving them no choice but to go into the tunnels and kill the horses with hammers.

• 31:24Speaker 04

  Shall we go into a fact?

• 31:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:26Speaker 02

  Let's go into a fact.

• 31:27Speaker 03

  Okay, but again, I'd say, I'd like Quentin to, and I, I know it's annoying to fill in forms, but.

• 31:32Speaker 02

  Honestly, all we've got is Quentin's word here. He's just gone, you said there's no working class Quentin's, I'm a working class Quentin. I bet he works in the family business for something or, do you know what I mean?

• 31:43Speaker 03

  Okay, yeah, okay, maybe. Or, uh.

• 31:47Speaker 02

  He's got to be a postman from Barking called Quentin and I go, right, yeah, no, you're, you're.

• 31:55Speaker 04

  Well, you could just say that now, couldn't you?

• 31:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, don't tell them, don't tell them the right answers.

• 32:00Speaker 02

  I am helping him out a little bit.

• 32:01Speaker 03

  But maybe we're, um.

• 32:03Speaker 02

  I don't think Quentin would lie. I don't think Quentin would like.

• 32:06Speaker 03

  Maybe it's a trick, maybe we, anyway. Maybe we don't want it to say it's a parking, a parking from post, a posting from parking.

• 32:14Speaker 04

  Parking from post.

• 32:15Speaker 02

  It's time to do our facts.

• 32:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:17Speaker 04

  Can I just say, just, um, sometimes you lean slightly that way and your mic is pointed slightly over that way. So if you want to just call it, that's it.

• 32:23Speaker 03

  How's that?

• 32:24Speaker 02

  I don't think it's gonna make much difference.

• 32:26Speaker 04

  It's not gonna make much difference, but you know, I'm, I'm here, so I may as well say it.

• 32:30Speaker 02

  I just mean, it'll make difference to the audio quality, sure, but I don't think it's gonna save this.

• 32:35Speaker 04

  That's okay. I think we're having a good time.

• 32:38Speaker 02

  I'm having a great time.

• 32:39Speaker 03

  I'm enjoying it, yeah.

• 32:39Speaker 02

  I just know this is a bad episode.

• 32:41Speaker 04

  Listen.

• 32:42Speaker 03

  No, we're all right. No, we, look.

• 32:43Speaker 04

  I'm here to edit it together.

• 32:44Speaker 03

  Lily May gets rid of the worst stuff and then whatever's left.

• 32:47Speaker 02

  I know. And that's the thing. So if you're, if you're listening to this and you're going, fucking hell.

• 32:53Speaker 03

  Yeah. This is the best they had.

• 32:57Speaker 02

  Um, she is, she does work magic, does Lily May.

• 32:59Speaker 03

  She does. But even magic has limits.

• 33:05Speaker 02

  So we, what's our facts, Lily May? Emergency services?

• 33:09Speaker 04

  Emergency services, yes.

• 33:10Speaker 02

  I just went, um, a bit boring.

• 33:13Speaker 04

  Okay. Well, I'll, I'll give the context to why we're doing it is because it's come up quite a lot.

• 33:16Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 33:17Speaker 04

  In the recent episodes, we've spoken about the emergency services. We had.

• 33:19Speaker 02

  We did, yeah.

• 33:20Speaker 04

  Peeing in.

• 33:20Speaker 02

  With the gladiators.

• 33:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, the gladiators, gladiators are fourth emergency service. Peeing in a policeman's hat.

• 33:27Speaker 03

  Yes, yes.

• 33:28Speaker 04

  Helmet.

• 33:29Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 33:30Speaker 04

  So I thought we could do some more research into the emergency services.

• 33:33Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 33:33Speaker 02

  Well, I asked for the strangest things that people have asked for when they call the emergency services.

• 33:42Speaker 03

  That's good. Yeah.

• 33:44Speaker 02

  I don't know if they're true or not. I don't know if, well, I think they're all true, but I don't know if someone was just on the wind up.

• 33:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 33:52Speaker 02

  Um, here's, um, so I'll start off with ambulance.

• 33:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:57Speaker 02

  Um, here was one. Can you send an ambulance? I've run out of milk and I'm very upset.

• 34:05Speaker 03

  But you don't even get the milk.

• 34:09Speaker 03

  It's that milk.

• 34:10Speaker 02

  Um, a caller asked if paramedics could help turn their mattress over because it was too heavy and dangerous.

• 34:16Speaker 03

  That's good.

• 34:18Speaker 02

  Someone rang nine nine nine because they had hiccups for twenty minutes, worried it might be permanent. I have hiccups. When I get hiccups, I have it for days.

• 34:27Speaker 03

  I did used to hear horror stories when I was a little boy in my little fat books that I had then about people who had hiccups for their whole life.

• 34:33Speaker 02

  They are, yeah, that's.

• 34:34Speaker 03

  And I thought, oh my god, what would I do?

• 34:35Speaker 02

  Guinness Book of World Records, that someone had them for about forty odd years or something like that.

• 34:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:40Speaker 02

  Oh, that would, I get depressed when I've got them and I've had them for a couple of days.

• 34:44Speaker 03

  They're fucking.

• 34:45Speaker 02

  I get a headache. It stops everything that I'm trying to do. Like, it just really gets in the way of me achieving anything.

• 34:52Speaker 03

  They're rubbish. I'm worried I'm gonna get them now. I can actually feel myself getting them.

• 34:57Speaker 02

  Police calls.

• 34:58Speaker 03

  Go on.

• 34:59Speaker 02

  That tested everyone's patience.

• 35:00Speaker 03

  Oh, test everyone's patience.

• 35:02Speaker 02

  Um, a man demanded police attendance because his ice cream melted melted before he got home. This can't be a wind up, innit?

• 35:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:11Speaker 03

  You call the fire brigade and get them to go.

• 35:13Speaker 02

  They should call you.

• 35:13Speaker 03

  With their foam. Replenish it.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  Foam. That's uh, that's for electrical um fires.

• 35:21Speaker 03

  Good knowledge.

• 35:22Speaker 02

  Foam, it usually.

• 35:23Speaker 03

  Foam is for electrics.

• 35:23Speaker 02

  It usually, it usually has a cream, uh, this is all part of my CSCS training when I wanted, need to get um approved to work on building sites and stuff.

• 35:33Speaker 03

  Very good, good to know. Some boys at my school um set off the water.

• 35:37Speaker 02

  You wouldn't put a water.

• 35:38Speaker 03

  I wouldn't, no, not now.

• 35:39Speaker 02

  Not on electrical fire.

• 35:40Speaker 03

  No, not anymore.

• 35:41Speaker 02

  Don't use water. You need foam.

• 35:43Speaker 03

  You need foam. The uh, just FYI, if you are thinking of setting off a fire extinguisher at school, maybe, as a joke.

• 35:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:50Speaker 03

  Uh, just like, you know, the water in there fucking stinks.

• 35:53Speaker 02

  Yep, yep, I did it.

• 35:54Speaker 03

  It's been in there for so long, it's disgusting, like it's.

• 35:56Speaker 02

  It's like from the forties or something like that.

• 35:57Speaker 03

  It's horrible, yeah, it's, it's really, it's been completely out of the water cycle.

• 36:02Speaker 02

  I was uh.

• 36:03Speaker 03

  There's, you know, different Galapagos tortoises living in it and stuff.

• 36:08Speaker 02

  I've spoken about this before on someones or Mining Claire's podcast or something like, um, but there was a time where I was at school. Um, I was sat behind, I turned up a little bit late, so I had to, I had to sit behind my drama teachers. Lesson.

• 36:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:24Speaker 02

  I had to sit behind him while he was talking to the rest of the class.

• 36:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:28Speaker 02

  And the only thing I could sit on was to perch on a fire extinguisher.

• 36:31Speaker 03

  Oh god, it's so.

• 36:33Speaker 02

  And, uh, and while he was talking to the class, I was behind him, like pretending.

• 36:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 36:37Speaker 02

  I had the hose in between my legs.

• 36:39Speaker 03

  The funnel, yeah.

• 36:40Speaker 02

  I was wanking off and so I, I put the, I put the hose in my mouth and leant back a bit, leant on the.

• 36:47Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 36:47Speaker 02

  Trigger.

• 36:48Speaker 03

  No.

• 36:48Speaker 02

  It went like, up in my face, all come out my nose and everything.

• 36:52Speaker 03

  Oh no.

• 36:52Speaker 02

  It was fucking rank. It was awful.

• 36:54Speaker 03

  That's disgusting.

• 36:55Speaker 02

  And, um, my, I didn't get into trouble, uh, because, um, my teacher laughed at me.

• 37:01Speaker 02

  And knew instantly that he'd lost all sort of credibility.

• 37:04Speaker 03

  It must be hard when your teacher and they go, that's not funny. And they must be like, it is funny.

• 37:09Speaker 02

  Funny though, isn't it?

• 37:10Speaker 03

  It is funny. I'm so sorry, Enoch, so, so please, please, so police was ice cream.

• 37:16Speaker 02

  I've got, uh, a caller reported a crime after discovering their partner had eaten their takeaway leftovers.

• 37:23Speaker 04

  That's valid.

• 37:26Speaker 02

  You're not having that, Lily, mate.

• 37:27Speaker 04

  No, I think that's completely, that's perfectly reasonable.

• 37:28Speaker 03

  Who are they wanting to arrest? Who are they wanting the police to arrest in the ice cream?

• 37:32Speaker 02

  It is theft.

• 37:33Speaker 03

  Not the takeaway one, the police, the ice cream one.

• 37:35Speaker 02

  It.

• 37:36Speaker 03

  Are they saying they should arrest the vendor? I think that was the one. The sun. The sun.

• 37:44Speaker 02

  They're gonna go after the weather.

• 37:45Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 37:46Speaker 02

  Um, one person rang to say their neighbours was looking at them suspiciously.

• 37:52Speaker 02

  Brackets, no further details.

• 37:54Speaker 03

  That's pretty, that's pretty good.

• 37:55Speaker 02

  Um, here's some fire brigades, uh, nine nine nines. Rescue a cat that wasn't stuck and refused to come down out of spite. He's just being stubborn. So you're happy now? That's called a fire brigade. Look at you, you idiot. Um, to put out a bonfire that the caller themselves had lit and then changed their mind about.

• 38:18Speaker 03

  Oh, that's, I mean.

• 38:20Speaker 02

  It's a bonfire that's got away from them, isn't it? And they've just gone, oh no.

• 38:23Speaker 03

  Can't be bothered.

• 38:24Speaker 02

  I lit it myself, but I've, I've changed my mind now. This is too much. It's starting to get really close to the house.

• 38:29Speaker 03

  Oh, that's, that's amazing.

• 38:31Speaker 02

  Some coast guard calls. Um, someone rang to complain that the sea was too loud and they couldn't sleep. This has got to be, this has got to be people winding them up.

• 38:43Speaker 03

  No, I suppose, yeah, you.

• 38:46Speaker 03

  No, that probably, I don't even, yeah, it's not the, yeah, I, I, obviously, there's nothing they can do.

• 38:50Speaker 02

  And so, uh, and the all time classic, a nine nine nine caller once asked, can you send someone around to tell my son to go to bed? Um, the call handler heroically, um politely replied, that would be a parenting matter, not an emergency. Um, I can see that, that's, that's the one that I can understand most.

• 39:11Speaker 03

  Also, what they should have done was they should have said, put your son on.

• 39:15Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 39:16Speaker 03

  And then their son, the son would have thought it was cool and then they would have.

• 39:20Speaker 02

  I was constantly being threatened by the police or the man.

• 39:24Speaker 03

  Right.

• 39:25Speaker 02

  When I was a child.

• 39:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 39:27Speaker 02

  Policeman's over there.

• 39:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, or it's like, if you don't put your seatbelt on, the policeman will come and arrest daddy.

• 39:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:33Speaker 03

  And you're like, right.

• 39:36Speaker 03

  Just like, yeah, I don't, I don't, I, yeah, it's, yeah, you're right, there is, there is, like, the, the law.

• 39:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:44Speaker 03

  Really looms over children, doesn't it?

• 39:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 39:46Speaker 03

  I think in general, children aren't really arrested.

• 39:48Speaker 02

  I was, I was terrified of them.

• 39:50Speaker 03

  Pretty much.

• 39:51Speaker 02

  I know, yeah, but you don't know that when you're a kid.

• 39:53Speaker 03

  No, you don't.

• 39:54Speaker 02

  I remember I was, um.

• 39:55Speaker 03

  You don't.

• 39:55Speaker 02

  I remember I was trespassing on our, um, our primary school.

• 40:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:02Speaker 02

  For some reason, it became the place where we would hang out, we would, we, we were all teenagers at this point, we'd left primary school.

• 40:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:09Speaker 02

  And we'd go and climb the fence and go and hang out in the nursery school playground.

• 40:14Speaker 03

  Right.

• 40:15Speaker 02

  Like, at the weekend, we didn't do any graffiti or anything like that, we'd like, you'd never know we were there, we came and left. And, um, and the Bark and Dagnum Council turned up. And he was like, it's the B and D.

• 40:28Speaker 03

  The B and D.

• 40:29Speaker 02

  The B and D. And me and my mate Francis were hiding in the bush. What was we, twelve, something like that? And, um, the guy, who I now realise as an adult.

• 40:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:41Speaker 02

  Was talking bullshit.

• 40:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:43Speaker 02

  Was just going, and I don't even think he had a radio, but he was going, yeah, I think we've got a couple of them still left in here. We're gonna have to call in the dogs.

• 40:53Speaker 02

  And me and my mate.

• 40:55Speaker 03

  Uh.

• 40:55Speaker 02

  Came out of the bushes with our hands up.

• 40:57Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 41:02Speaker 02

  Oh. And, and nothing happened to us, by the way. It was usually like, right, don't go in there anymore, please.

• 41:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:07Speaker 02

  Sorry about that. Sorry about that, sir. Anyway.

• 41:11Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 41:12Speaker 02

  Um, should we move on to fact check?

• 41:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:15Speaker 02

  Um. This is the, the part of the show where we'll be reading a fact or a question you'd like us to get to the bottom of. Then we're gonna have a good little think during the ad break and decide how, how true it feels to us.

• 41:27Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 41:28Speaker 02

  Um, Joe, do you wanna give us this week's facts, sir?

• 41:33Speaker 03

  Yes, okay. So this week's fact check comes from Liam, who's asked, "When I was a child, we were always told that if you cut a worm in half, both then survive." Good, good classic one, actually. Can you please fact check this?

• 41:46Speaker 02

  Well, this is classic, uh.

• 41:47Speaker 03

  This is absolutely, yeah.

• 41:49Speaker 02

  This is XFL.

• 41:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:50Speaker 02

  We already know, we know, we already know the answer to this and, um.

• 41:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:54Speaker 02

  We'll let you know it. I mean, I say I know the answer to it. It's just.

• 41:58Speaker 03

  We heard it on, we heard it on an equally stupid podcast.

• 42:02Speaker 02

  So, um, Liam, we'll, we'll be back with, with the very quick answer after, after this ad break.

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• 43:57Speaker 02

  Liam has asked us if you cut a worm in half, both ends survive. Can you please fact check this? Well, we already know the answer to this and lots of our listeners do as well.

• 44:06Speaker 02

  Because Pilkington talks about this on the XFM where it's not true. I think it's the longest part of the worm survives.

• 44:16Speaker 03

  Yeah. So.

• 44:18Speaker 02

  You cannot cut a worm in half and make two.

• 44:19Speaker 03

  You don't get two worms.

• 44:21Speaker 02

  No.

• 44:21Speaker 03

  You get a short, you get one shorter worm.

• 44:23Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 44:25Speaker 03

  Um, but I don't know. I don't know what to say.

• 44:30Speaker 02

  No, that's it. It's really cut and dry for want of a better.

• 44:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:35Speaker 02

  But it is really cut and dry. Lily May, if you, can you back, back me up on this one?

• 44:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, I can. So I've done a little bit of looking and I found a BBC Science Focus page. And it sort of concurs that, that it says, earthworms have a very simple nervous system with a single nerve running through the length of their body and side branches for each segment and no brain. If an anelid is cut in two, they can regenerate to a certain degree. And in some species, you can end up with two worms. But the common earthworm, however, will only regenerate from the tail end. The head end always dies.

• 45:12Speaker 03

  Oh, the head dies.

• 45:13Speaker 02

  I thought it was the other way around.

• 45:14Speaker 03

  Why don't they just call the bit that lives on the head?

• 45:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:18Speaker 03

  Why are they, why are they doing this?

• 45:20Speaker 02

  You could, I think you could.

• 45:23Speaker 03

  Well, that's now the head. But which end of the head is, which end of the tail is now the head? Do you know what I mean?

• 45:28Speaker 04

  It just says the tail end that's left will be able to sense along the whole of its body, even though it's separated.

• 45:35Speaker 03

  Alright. Wow.

• 45:36Speaker 02

  Well, there you go.

• 45:37Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 45:37Speaker 03

  Interesting. So it doesn't have a brain, but it does have a head?

• 45:40Speaker 02

  Stop saying interesting, because we're not living up to that.

• 45:44Speaker 03

  Right. Boring. So it doesn't have a-

• 45:48Speaker 02

  That's better. Oh, that's very boring. Thank you.

• 45:53Speaker 03

  So it's not-

• 45:55Speaker 02

  It's not fact. That's not fact up.

• 45:56Speaker 03

  It's fact down.

• 45:57Speaker 02

  It's fact down, and I knew that wasn't fact up because, because of the XFM shows. That's where all my information comes from. Bottom. Um, the XFM shows, Blackadder. That's where all my history knowledge comes from.

• 46:11Speaker 03

  It's a lot worse. Hamilton, basically my entire knowledge of-

• 46:15Speaker 02

  The musical Hamilton?

• 46:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 46:18Speaker 02

  I've never seen it.

• 46:19Speaker 03

  If you want to kind of-

• 46:19Speaker 02

  I love musicals as well. I'm a big musical fan. I absolutely love musicals.

• 46:22Speaker 03

  I've never seen it either, but I've listened to the soundtrack.

• 46:24Speaker 02

  It's the soundtrack that annoys me. It's a bit too rap.

• 46:27Speaker 03

  I think it's slightly too long at the end where like Hamilton's dead and then his widow is just going, "And that wasn't the end of the story, because I then had a life where I set up libraries for children and did lots of other things." Like, "Oh, I just stop the musical now." It's, you don't, you can't, you have, you have to stop at some point.

• 46:45Speaker 02

  They're turning, they're turning into our podcast.

• 46:48Speaker 03

  Don't do that.

• 46:49Speaker 02

  Don't do that. Um, so Liam, sorry about that, mate. Not fact. No fact. Um, I think it's time for Joe to give me a 999 fact.

• 47:00Speaker 03

  Right. James?

• 47:01Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 47:02Speaker 03

  Call 999.

• 47:04Speaker 02

  I didn't know whether you were gonna say that or not.

• 47:06Speaker 03

  Because I have a killer fact for you today.

• 47:08Speaker 02

  Right, go.

• 47:11Speaker 03

  So my fact is that- Ben Franklin.

• 47:17Speaker 02

  Benjamin.

• 47:17Speaker 03

  The American Benjamin Franklin.

• 47:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:19Speaker 03

  Well Benny.

• 47:20Speaker 02

  He um invented electricity.

• 47:23Speaker 03

  He didn't yeah, he didn't invent electricity.

• 47:27Speaker 03

  But he did, he was one of his many things that he sort of gave birth to.

• 47:32Speaker 02

  Spent a lot of time in Europe as well.

• 47:34Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 47:34Speaker 02

  Um apparently the residents that he, the resident that he lived, his residence in London.

• 47:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:42Speaker 02

  Um I don't know whether this is fact up or not, um but apparently he, because he was a man of science, right?

• 47:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:51Speaker 02

  I can agree with that.

• 47:54Speaker 02

  Years after he'd left that place, because he lived in London for a bit and Paris as well.

• 47:59Speaker 03

  What, he left and then after he left they found a robot in it or something?

• 48:02Speaker 02

  No, no, no.

• 48:02Speaker 03

  Okay, yeah.

• 48:03Speaker 02

  They found loads of dead bodies in the, in the basement. No, I don't think he killed those bodies. I think he was doing experiments on deceased.

• 48:12Speaker 03

  Okay, yeah.

• 48:13Speaker 02

  Sort of scientific stuff.

• 48:14Speaker 03

  On cadavers.

• 48:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  And um and they found loads of fucking nonsense going on in the basement.

• 48:19Speaker 03

  Right, well.

• 48:20Speaker 02

  Don't know if that's fact up or not.

• 48:22Speaker 04

  Well, I've just given it a quick little look. Apparently over 1,200 bone fragments were found from at least 15 people.

• 48:28Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 48:28Speaker 04

  Including children.

• 48:31Speaker 03

  You've got a hobby, haven't you?

• 48:32Speaker 02

  You go.

• 48:34Speaker 02

  Um. Is that, or you go mad?

• 48:35Speaker 03

  I know. You start. You go mad and you start chopping up children's bones or something. Um, yes, so.

• 48:45Speaker 02

  Oh, BJ.

• 48:46Speaker 03

  He basically was involved in a, well, the only, the only specific fact is it was Philadelphia's first fire brigade.

• 48:55Speaker 02

  Right.

• 48:56Speaker 03

  He set up a fire brigade or helped set up a fire brigade and they, what I liked about, the deal that I liked about this group is that they were, because fires were kind of, they might be put out, they might not be put out, like a lot of it in the early days was insurance companies.

• 49:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:12Speaker 03

  Where it was part of insurance and in fact, the reason that in the UK there was a formal fire brigade was because, or because, or the beginnings of the formal fire brigade was because insurance companies got fed up of having to pay out for fires.

• 49:25Speaker 02

  Right.

• 49:25Speaker 03

  So, um, that was kind of the birth of it or the beginnings of the birth in the UK. Uh, but yeah, so in Philadelphia, they, Ben Franklin was, um, he was, he was a fireman. And his group of uh firemen, uh, they would.

• 49:42Speaker 03

  Uh, the detail I liked was that they would, they would meet up eight times a year. They're like, that ain't a fire brigade, mate. That's not, no, you don't need to meet.

• 49:49Speaker 02

  No, you've got to be ready.

• 49:50Speaker 03

  Okay, so the fire brigade rule here. So any, um, first on the agenda, any fire, any fires currently burning?

• 49:56Speaker 02

  No, they'll be every, all eight times. All right. See you.

• 49:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, see you in just over a month. Yeah. Oh, yeah. If they get a phone call during that meeting, then they will go and put it out. But like they met up, I guess just about fire generally.

• 50:09Speaker 02

  Shoot the shit.

• 50:10Speaker 03

  Shoot the shit. Any fire based stuff, any fire adjacent facts, they provided facts as well.

• 50:14Speaker 02

  He also, um, left a load of money to Philadelphia in his will.

• 50:18Speaker 03

  Did he?

• 50:19Speaker 02

  I think, I think it was something like a hundred thousand dollars or something like that, or ten thousand dollars or something like that.

• 50:27Speaker 03

  And a load of bones.

• 50:28Speaker 02

  And, and he was like, and he said, oh, and you're not allowed to use this for 200 years or something. And that became sort of eight million dollars or something to, with, with inflation and interest and all that sort of stuff.

• 50:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:43Speaker 02

  Um, Lily May, what happened?

• 50:45Speaker 04

  Uh, so I can see something here about, um, he left four thousand dollars.

• 50:51Speaker 02

  Four thousand dollars.

• 50:52Speaker 03

  Which would have been.

• 50:53Speaker 04

  Which was a, yeah, which was loaned to tradesmen and businessmen. And they could draw portions of the funds over several years.

• 51:02Speaker 03

  That's the great American sort of entrepreneurial.

• 51:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:08Speaker 02

  He also, um, negotiated with the French. To say, come and give us a hand with these British.

• 51:14Speaker 03

  Yes. The.

• 51:17Speaker 02

  He also was obsessed with, um, Native American society as well. Because when they were, when they were like, oh, we need to fucking start our own thing going on here.

• 51:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:29Speaker 02

  They're taxing us. We've got no say, which in their defence, they did just want to have a little bit of say at parliament. And George at the time didn't even open their letters. Like they sent him, I think they sent him like three or four letters going, there might be.

• 51:46Speaker 03

  Three or four, well you can't do more than that, can you?

• 51:48Speaker 02

  There might be a bit of, well, this was the days where it probably took about six months for it to get there.

• 51:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, because it was on a whale or something.

• 51:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, and they were like, you, listen, we, we're all a bit annoyed here because you're taxing the shit out of us. And we just want to have a little bit of say in.

• 52:03Speaker 03

  Taxing us, taxing us a little bit, really, not as much as the home country.

• 52:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, and also.

• 52:10Speaker 03

  And they weren't much more expensive because they kept getting into wars.

• 52:12Speaker 02

  And it was also to pay for the war, like against the French and stuff.

• 52:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, so it was like, can we tax you a little bit for the wars that you keep getting into?

• 52:17Speaker 02

  But.

• 52:18Speaker 03

  And they said, no.

• 52:19Speaker 02

  But I think they were like.

• 52:20Speaker 03

  You're a tyrant and you're.

• 52:21Speaker 02

  I think, I think they were happy to pay the tax. They were just like, can we have a bloke in parliament? Can we just have one guy there?

• 52:27Speaker 03

  It's like, can we have a blowjob?

• 52:30Speaker 03

  Pay the tax, but.

• 52:32Speaker 02

  BJ wanted a BJ.

• 52:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:36Speaker 02

  But, so, that whole thing, that whole thing.

• 52:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, no taxation without, no taxation without representation. Yes.

• 52:42Speaker 02

  Um, so they did, and George wouldn't even open the letters. He was going, no, fuck them. He had like, he had a fag on, he was like, no, those little fucking American cunts, they'd fuck themselves.

• 52:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 52:53Speaker 02

  Oh, well, they're starting something, are they? Fucking sort it out.

• 52:56Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, I don't know about those letters, but my.

• 53:00Speaker 02

  He sent them letters, but, but also he wasn't.

• 53:02Speaker 03

  My, my information is that the level of taxation that was being asked of them was really not that high, considerably less than you pay if you were in Britain. And Britain was spending a lot more money on them because, because they kept getting into, yeah.

• 53:17Speaker 02

  A little bit. Um, but, but he did, um, Benjamin Franklin spent some time with Native Americans, looking at their societies and how they make everything work.

• 53:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:28Speaker 02

  Because he was very much like, we need a new system here.

• 53:32Speaker 03

  Well, that's interesting. Ben, Benjamin Franklin. Fireman.

• 53:36Speaker 02

  Was a fireman, yeah. Again, it goes back to that thing of like what we were talking about. Um, when.

• 53:43Speaker 03

  Germania.

• 53:44Speaker 02

  Well, no, no, yeah, it always goes back to that.

• 53:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:47Speaker 02

  But sort of like a hundred, two hundred years ago.

• 53:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:50Speaker 02

  Where like a cricketer won the ashes.

• 53:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:52Speaker 02

  Also won the golden relay.

• 53:55Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 53:55Speaker 02

  And was also a member of parliament.

• 53:56Speaker 03

  Everyone did everything.

• 53:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:58Speaker 03

  And then some people didn't do anything.

• 54:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:00Speaker 03

  Yeah. Can that be right?

• 54:02Speaker 02

  Helped set up the FA and things like that.

• 54:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, it is that, isn't it? Yeah, yeah.

• 54:07Speaker 02

  Um, shall we stop? Shall we end this episode?

• 54:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 54:10Speaker 02

  Is it all right?

• 54:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 54:11Speaker 03

  Climb Everest.

• 54:11Speaker 02

  Let's put, let's put this episode out of its misery.

• 54:14Speaker 03

  Bible.

• 54:15Speaker 02

  Um, what have we learned today? We've learned, what have we learned? Don't chop a. Uh, a worm in half. Just don't do it.

• 54:24Speaker 03

  No, don't chop a worm.

• 54:25Speaker 02

  It won't make two, it won't make two little worms. It will just sort of make a worm a little bit less good than what it was before.

• 54:32Speaker 03

  And they do a bloody good job, worms, don't they? They, they, they mulch up the soil.

• 54:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:37Speaker 03

  They, we really need them.

• 54:39Speaker 02

  Important, yeah, they're very important.

• 54:40Speaker 03

  I know, they're a bit gross, but that's not their fault.

• 54:43Speaker 02

  We learnt that someone once called 999 because their ice cream melted. Uh, and we also learnt that Benjamin Franklin was a fireman. Um, so that's good.

• 54:53Speaker 03

  Fan is the hero next door.

• 54:58Speaker 02

  Well, what's the lyrics to Fireman Sam? He's always on the scene. Fireman Sam and his engines bright clean.

• 55:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's always on the scene. Yeah, well, when he hears that fire bell chime, Simon, Simon.

• 55:13Speaker 02

  How does it sound? Yeah. Simon Pham.

• 55:19Speaker 04

  Uh, when he hears that fire bell chime, Fireman Sam is there on time.

• 55:24Speaker 02

  Is that the beginning of it?

• 55:25Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 55:25Speaker 02

  When he hears that fire bell chime.

• 55:28Speaker 04

  That's it.

• 55:32Speaker 04

  Putting on his coat and hat in less than seven seconds flat.

• 55:37Speaker 02

  Seven seconds.

• 55:39Speaker 04

  That's what it says.

• 55:41Speaker 02

  Hmm. That's it as well. That's what we grew up with.

• 55:46Speaker 02

  When was the last time you could, like, honestly, I genuinely think if my house was on fire, I'd go,

• 55:52Speaker 03

  Leave it.

• 55:53Speaker 02

  They're not gonna turn, like, it'll be burnt down by the time they turn up anyway.

• 55:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 55:58Speaker 02

  I'll drive, like, cause it is, I'll drive myself to the hospital, you know.

• 56:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 56:03Speaker 02

  Seven seconds, but I grew up with Fireman Sam, it's like, you're meant to be here in seven seconds, mate. What, what's going on? That's what Fireman Sam taught me.

• 56:11Speaker 03

  Does he have a cat or is that Postman Pat?

• 56:13Speaker 02

  That's Postman Pat with the black and white cat.

• 56:14Speaker 03

  Does Sam have anything?

• 56:16Speaker 04

  Integrity.

• 56:17Speaker 02

  Sam, he's just got his word. And that's all the man. No.

• 56:23Speaker 03

  Apparently they used to use Dalmatians.

• 56:26Speaker 02

  Yes, if, um.

• 56:28Speaker 03

  They used to run alongside the.

• 56:28Speaker 02

  If Looney Tunes have got anything.

• 56:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 56:32Speaker 02

  To believe.

• 56:33Speaker 03

  Is that right? It's in cartoons?

• 56:34Speaker 02

  No wonder this world is in the fucking state it's in. Cause we grew, grew up watching Looney Tunes, Ren and Stimpy, there was a whole episode in Ren and Stimpy where they become fire dogs. They paint themselves in Dalmatian paint, which doesn't work.

• 56:51Speaker 03

  No.

• 56:51Speaker 02

  But just as a kid, I was like, well, that's a thing, isn't it?

• 56:54Speaker 03

  Is this Dalmatian thing really well known then?

• 56:56Speaker 04

  There is a Dalmatian in Fireman Sam as well called Radar.

• 56:59Speaker 02

  Radar. Anyway, I'm all fact out, Joe. I am all fact out.

• 57:03Speaker 03

  Me too.

• 57:04Speaker 02

  And we hope that you've learned something or had a nice time. And we'll be back next week armed with more facts, chats and BJ tacks. And don't forget that you can get in touch with us if you'd like us to fact check something that feels true for you, or whatever nonsense you'd like to talk to us. Um, you can email us, our email is [email protected]. Um, our WhatsApp number, 07822 034330. Or you can follow us on social media at Joe and James Pod. You can head to the podcast description if you've already forgotten those details. Oh God, that's awful, that one.

• 57:37Speaker 03

  That was right.

• 57:37Speaker 02

  Thanks guys.

• 57:38Speaker 03

  Bye.

• 57:39Speaker 02

  Thanks, bye.

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