The Secret To Being The Perfect Neighbour

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  I'm Claire Buckley, and this Halloween on my podcast, Pretty Scary, we are going to cover the stories that keep you up at night. Real crimes, ghosts, and aliens. Plus, the scariest movies to watch this spooky season with the lights off. So, as the nights draw in, the pumpkins are carved, and somewhere in the dark, something is scratching at the window. It's probably just the cat, right? Get the candles lit in search for Pretty Scary with Claire Buckley.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  Thought about buying a lawnmower.

• 1:16Speaker 03

  You've bought a lawnmower?

• 1:17Speaker 02

  I thought about it.

• 1:18Speaker 03

  You've thought about it?

• 1:18Speaker 02

  Thought about it.

• 1:19Speaker 03

  Make sure you talk to me before you invest in something like that.

• 1:21Speaker 02

  I will do, yeah.

• 1:22Speaker 03

  Because there's things you need to consider.

• 1:23Speaker 02

  Well, I'm worried that now my lawn is, I don't think you can go straight in. It'd be like trying to shave off a beard with a regular razor. Like, first it needs to be...

• 1:32Speaker 03

  Clippied a bit.

• 1:33Speaker 02

  Clippied. I did actually cut down a load of stuff out the back of my house.

• 1:36Speaker 03

  We need to get a strimmer first, then.

• 1:38Speaker 02

  I've strimed, yeah, I've got a strimmer.

• 1:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:40Speaker 02

  I did, I did a load of strimming, actually. There are some stairs that go down from our, um, the back of our house, down to the garden, quite rickety, but also just getting really overgrown. Like, they're only about that wide, well, no, they're like that, they're like man-wide.

• 1:55Speaker 03

  Man-wide.

• 1:56Speaker 02

  Man-wide. And the plants were coming right in, so when you had to kind of, like, it was going, it was like going through a tunnel of plants, so cut all that back. Um.

• 2:05Speaker 03

  You could get a gardener in just to get you started.

• 2:08Speaker 02

  I might, yeah, I might do.

• 2:09Speaker 03

  Just to do the first, um.

• 2:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:12Speaker 03

  It's traumatic for the grasses.

• 2:14Speaker 02

  Is it? Does it like it? Well, mine's getting towards almost like meadow. There's quite a lot of plants there that are probably weeds, but I quite like them.

• 2:21Speaker 03

  Yeah. Good for the bees, that.

• 2:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, again, it's rewilding, isn't it? But the paddling pool out is another thing.

• 2:26Speaker 03

  We got our dog, um, a paddling pool. Claire bought it and I went, that's not gonna last a day.

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  Yeah.

• 2:33Speaker 03

  You know what he's like.

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  Yeah.

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  He likes to bite stuff.

• 2:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:37Speaker 03

  And, um. I don't know what makes it a dog paddling pool.

• 2:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, cause I.

• 2:42Speaker 03

  She was going, she was going, no, it's a dog one. It's a special dog one. So it must, they must make it slightly more robust or something. Anyway, we got it.

• 2:52Speaker 02

  Yes, it probably is that, yeah.

• 2:53Speaker 03

  He absolutely loved it.

• 2:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:54Speaker 03

  Couldn't believe his luck. Was jumping in and out of it all day. We had it the whole day there. Then I woke up the next day. And I went, oh, we should probably get that paddling pool out for the dog again today. And Claire went, no, he's made a hole in it.

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  One day.

• 3:10Speaker 02

  Well, the other thing that happens is if you don't deflate a paddling pool, at least in my area.

• 3:14Speaker 03

  It wasn't a.

• 3:14Speaker 02

  It stays out all night.

• 3:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, we've done that before.

• 3:17Speaker 02

  And then cats, foxes tear into it.

• 3:20Speaker 03

  I banned paddling pools after years of them just, cause I'd go to Claire.

• 3:25Speaker 02

  You've got to take them in.

• 3:26Speaker 03

  Claire would be like, Claire would be like, I'm getting the kids paddling pool. And I went, well, I'm not, I can't be bothered to keep taking it in every night.

• 3:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:33Speaker 03

  So are you gonna, I'll take it in every night. Don't worry.

• 3:36Speaker 02

  They're a hassle.

• 3:36Speaker 03

  Don't worry, I'll take it in every night. And I'm the bad guy.

• 3:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:40Speaker 03

  Just for being, just for saying, listen, I'm not prepared to put in the work here.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:44Speaker 03

  I was being honest.

• 3:45Speaker 02

  It's fine. It in.

• 3:46Speaker 03

  She didn't take it in either.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 3:49Speaker 03

  So who's the bad guy in that situation?

• 3:51Speaker 02

  Claire's the bad.

• 3:52Speaker 03

  I think so.

• 3:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:53Speaker 03

  And then you end up with a great big, looks like a UFO's landed in your, on your grass.

• 3:57Speaker 02

  Circles, yeah, I know. That's what it would have been, the old Britons. Yeah. They just weren't taking the paddling pool in.

• 4:06Speaker 02

  It was, no, it was, it was aliens.

• 4:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  But they came and they were like, oh, it's hot, isn't it?

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  But we, um.

• 4:11Speaker 02

  They got the paddling pools out and the aliens going, bring it back into the ship every night. And they were going, I'll leave it.

• 4:16Speaker 03

  We had a, we had a paddling pool and we left it out and went on holiday once.

• 4:22Speaker 03

  Um, and in fact, I purposely left it out, I just remembered, because there was little tadpoles in it. And I was going, oh, well, can't.

• 4:30Speaker 02

  It's nice, yeah.

• 4:31Speaker 03

  We can't get rid of this now, we can't kill the tadpoles. Um, so I was like, oh, I can't wait to see what's happened when we get back home. Um, and Claire's dad had emptied it and thrown it out. And I went, oh, why'd you do that? I was, I was expecting them to have some legs or something by now.

• 4:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:51Speaker 03

  He went, um, they're mosquitoes, you idiot.

• 4:56Speaker 03

  He went, you don't want them, you don't want them maturing.

• 5:03Speaker 03

  So I was like, ah, fair enough.

• 5:04Speaker 02

  Does, does a baby mosquito look like a tadpole?

• 5:07Speaker 03

  Like a very tiny one.

• 5:08Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 5:09Speaker 03

  Like, I thought.

• 5:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:11Speaker 03

  In hindsight now, they, they were definitely, yeah, now that I think about it, ah, yeah.

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  Yeah.

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  Cause even at the time, I was going, God, they're tiny. They must have just.

• 5:19Speaker 02

  They're already just.

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  Hatched or whatever.

• 5:21Speaker 02

  They're going through the flying stage.

• 5:22Speaker 03

  Also.

• 5:23Speaker 02

  Oh, can't wait, yeah.

• 5:24Speaker 03

  Never saw any frogs born.

• 5:26Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 5:28Speaker 03

  So it all, it all makes sense now.

• 5:30Speaker 02

  It does, it does sort of make sense, doesn't it? I, I was, I was going through the, the paddling pools on the, um. Well, on the B and Q website and Argos, all, none in stock.

• 5:41Speaker 03

  Everyone wants to get them at the same time. It's the same with, um, super soakers, with, um, water guns.

• 5:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 5:49Speaker 03

  I do the same. I go to my kids, it'd be a hot day and I'd go, oh, should we pop down to the supermarket or something? Grab some water pistols, we'll have a water fight. And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, can't wait. All gone.

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  Yeah.

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  All gone.

• 6:01Speaker 02

  I don't think shops really keep much in stock anymore. Now, if you go to a stock, the shop, there's not, there's not really anything in them. I, I.

• 6:08Speaker 03

  It's post-COVID, isn't it? E- everything's scarce. Everything's scarce.

• 6:12Speaker 02

  B and Q didn't have a single paddling pool. And also, the shelf where they were supposed to be didn't even look like they could ever have been that many there. But I'll tell you what I did in the end. I went to, um, Argos. And there was one paddling pool there. They'd all gone, all of them were gone. They had one in stock and it had a roof. And I was like, well, that's why no one wants that. And it looked like a boat.

• 6:32Speaker 03

  Right.

• 6:32Speaker 02

  So you have everything over the top. I was like, oh, how's that gonna, you know, that, that feels like a.

• 6:37Speaker 03

  Better for the kids, keeps them in shape, they can sit in the.

• 6:39Speaker 02

  But also.

• 6:42Speaker 02

  I had the last laugh, because I bought it.

• 6:44Speaker 03

  Didn't put the roof on.

• 6:46Speaker 02

  It's just a separate component.

• 6:47Speaker 03

  Brilliant.

• 6:48Speaker 02

  I assumed, I assumed that it would, because we had a previous paddling pool, where I had all these bits and pieces, like a rocket and a thing here. And they were just all part of the structure. So you couldn't choose to not have the rocket. You couldn't choose to not have. So you blew it up and it's when, I thought it would go and just all go up over the top. Not true at all.

• 7:05Speaker 03

  Was there a bit of you that wanted to go back to Argos and say, hey, everyone that didn't want to buy this paddling pool, you're a fucking idiot?

• 7:11Speaker 02

  Oh, oh no, I've, I've got the one with the roof.

• 7:15Speaker 03

  And I beat you.

• 7:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. It was brilliant. It felt like I'd, it felt like I'd, um, beat the system.

• 7:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:21Speaker 02

  Also, I should say that it's, um, it's highly unlikely he's listening, but, um, a Scottish man helped me carry a load of stuff back from Argos to my car.

• 7:32Speaker 03

  Alright.

• 7:32Speaker 02

  And, um, it was just a nice thing for him to do. And it supports my, um, sort of ongoing theory that Scottish people are nice. I think they're generally a bit more helpful.

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  I like to think so.

• 7:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. I was carrying, um, my daughter and also had the paddling pool. That was fine. But then I also had bought a parasol. Again, last one I had, didn't even use it at the end.

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  Right.

• 7:53Speaker 02

  And a bass. So the bass is just a massive bit of iron.

• 7:56Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 7:57Speaker 02

  Anyway, so this bloke said, can I, can I help? So I just gave him the bass of the parasol. It's a fuck hell. And then he was like, have you parked nearby? I was like, not really.

• 8:08Speaker 02

  Um, anyway, it was very nice because I actually don't know how I would have got back otherwise. So it was, it was, um, I was gonna have to sacrifice one of the three items or the child. And it was probably gonna be the child. I said, well, I've got the Hannah, good news and bad news.

• 8:21Speaker 03

  It's probably the, out of everything, it's probably the least thing that someone's gonna nick, to be honest.

• 8:26Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, the joke's on them if they, they nick her, because she takes a lot of looking after.

• 8:31Speaker 03

  I say, like, to Claire all the time, I was like, we don't have to worry about our kids getting kidnapped. They'll, they'll bring them back.

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  Yeah, yeah.

• 8:39Speaker 03

  Just go fucking.

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  Please, can I?

• 8:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, don't worry about it.

• 8:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know. Like, I reckon four or five hours, but that's just, yeah.

• 8:46Speaker 03

  No, speaking of carrying stuff, I've got a, uh, I've got two bags of soil.

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  Like potting, like plant pot soil.

• 8:56Speaker 02

  Okay.

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  In my garage.

• 8:57Speaker 02

  Okay.

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  Had it for, I wanna say five years.

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  Okay.

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  Don't know how I got it in my garage. But I've been clearing out my garage recently.

• 9:08Speaker 02

  Okay, so you got it in, but you don't get it out.

• 9:10Speaker 03

  I cannot lift the fucking thing. I cannot lift it.

• 9:14Speaker 02

  You used to be much stronger.

• 9:16Speaker 03

  I wouldn't have been that strong. I don't know how I did it.

• 9:19Speaker 02

  What else is in there? A load of anvils? A big, a big granite sphere.

• 9:25Speaker 03

  No, but I, I, I was like, I gotta get, like, I've been doing trips, weekly trips to the dump. I was like, God, I gotta get rid, I, I just gotta get rid of it today. I gotta get, surely I can move it. And I started, like, pushing it along the floor towards my car.

• 9:42Speaker 02

  Right.

• 9:43Speaker 03

  And then I was like, if I can push it along the floor towards my car, then maybe I could just do one big lift into the boot. And then I was like.

• 9:51Speaker 02

  If you can push.

• 9:52Speaker 03

  What the fuck am I gonna do when I get to the tip?

• 9:55Speaker 02

  Just put it in the car. Just drive, just drive the car.

• 9:59Speaker 03

  I mean, like, I can't.

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  No.

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  Cause you have to, like, go up steps and go to beans and stuff.

• 10:03Speaker 02

  And you've got also.

• 10:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, and then get it over the thing.

• 10:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, it is a bit like, if you're gonna do steps, keep the steps going until we can actually, cause you, you get to step and you're still like.

• 10:13Speaker 03

  Yeah. And so, uh, so I just pushed it back to where it was.

• 10:18Speaker 02

  Okay, okay.

• 10:19Speaker 03

  And I, um, I called my, I called my mate up who's got a van.

• 10:24Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 10:24Speaker 03

  He's coming around on Saturday. I said, you're gonna have to help me. I said, I can pretty much do everything, to be honest with you. I just, it's just, and the bag is about this big. It's not even a big thing. I just cannot shift it. I can't get rid of it.

• 10:37Speaker 02

  Have you seen?

• 10:38Speaker 03

  I basically called up a man.

• 10:39Speaker 02

  Yeah. Have you seen the film The Great Escape?

• 10:42Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 10:43Speaker 02

  Because there's a little method there.

• 10:45Speaker 03

  Put it in my trousers.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  Put it in your trousers.

• 10:47Speaker 03

  Put it in my pockets and then.

• 10:52Speaker 02

  I don't know, I don't know what they do. They look very, they look very chipper, don't they? There's, there's a sense that they're kind of really getting one over the Germans.

• 10:57Speaker 03

  Is this the second time we spoke about Great Escape?

• 10:59Speaker 02

  It might be, yeah.

• 11:00Speaker 03

  Because I'm still confused as to why it's a Christmas film.

• 11:03Speaker 02

  Long. I think I, then my answer was long, because you've got time to watch it.

• 11:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, right, that was it, yeah.

• 11:08Speaker 02

  I consider Jurassic Park a Christmas film, but I, I don't, I think John Williams to me is always Christmas, no matter what's going on. It's just something.

• 11:15Speaker 03

  I saw a thing, um, you know when we did that three second thing the other day?

• 11:19Speaker 02

  Oh, that, yeah.

• 11:19Speaker 03

  And I, I, I really, for a split second, I felt really good. I was, oh my god, that was amazing.

• 11:25Speaker 02

  It was a cruel trick.

• 11:26Speaker 03

  It was.

• 11:27Speaker 02

  From Robbie May.

• 11:27Speaker 03

  I got tricked on Instagram, someone tricked me on Instagram, because it just came up and it was just this bloke and he said, can you name this film in three seconds? And then it clipped to, uh, Jurassic Park. And straight away, I went Jurassic Park. And it, but the joke is that it goes, the clip is just him going, welcome to Jurassic Park. And I was like, oh, that's the joke.

• 11:49Speaker 02

  Oh, annoying. But you got it before he said it, so.

• 11:52Speaker 03

  I did, yeah.

• 11:53Speaker 02

  In a way, like, that's, that's, you know, joke's on him.

• 11:57Speaker 03

  What's his name? Hannah? What's his name? The, the bloke that owns the park, not owns it?

• 12:01Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, Jon Hammond.

• 12:02Speaker 03

  Hammond, that's it, yeah. Hammond, he's going, uh, it's when he goes, welcome to Jurassic Park.

• 12:08Speaker 02

  Oh, don't worry, I know my way around the kitchen.

• 12:10Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 12:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:12Speaker 03

  There's loads of, um, continuity errors in that, in that scene.

• 12:16Speaker 02

  Are there? Oh, is it the champagne?

• 12:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, they, they have different glasses and stuff, and at one second it's in one person's hand, and then it's back in the, his hand and, and things like that.

• 12:25Speaker 02

  It's funny with continuity.

• 12:26Speaker 03

  I think his cloth changes colour.

• 12:28Speaker 02

  Does it?

• 12:28Speaker 03

  At some point, yeah.

• 12:30Speaker 02

  It is funny because they spent all that money.

• 12:32Speaker 03

  Well, do you know what's funny about it, Joe?

• 12:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:34Speaker 03

  Is that when we're doing something shit like The Inbetweeners, which doesn't have any fucking money spent on it at all whatsoever, everything's done on the cheap.

• 12:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:41Speaker 03

  And we have continuity up our arses all the time going, oh, no, remember you held that and you took a bite after this line?

• 12:48Speaker 02

  Oh, god.

• 12:49Speaker 03

  And it's like, right, we've got to do it again.

• 12:50Speaker 02

  Oh, god, when you, when you realise, when you realise you've committed to something, and you're like, that was the first thing, I don't know what the fuck I was doing!

• 12:57Speaker 03

  I never eat, I never eat.

• 12:58Speaker 02

  Don't do anything.

• 12:59Speaker 03

  Never eat in a scene.

• 13:00Speaker 02

  But I, I've ended up having to commit to like pauses that I put in, where I was like, that was a shit performance, don't make me go back to that, like.

• 13:07Speaker 03

  There's that outtake in, um, Extras, um, it's always on YouTube, it's like a montage of, uh.

• 13:13Speaker 02

  I have one of those ones with.

• 13:14Speaker 03

  All the, all the montage of, um.

• 13:18Speaker 03

  Gervais and Merchant sat across the desk in his office are brilliant. All the outtakes from that are absolutely brilliant. They keep doing this thing where um where Merchant takes a big gulp of coffee and sort of just goes. And then and then Gervais just keeps laughing and ruining the take. So he spits the.

• 13:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, again.

• 13:37Speaker 03

  And he goes, well, I'm gonna be full of tea if I have to.

• 13:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, I can't.

• 13:40Speaker 03

  And then he and then he's going, you're not gonna just drink that again, are you? And he's going, yeah, why? What's the point of that? He's going, get him a new tea. That's disgusting.

• 13:47Speaker 02

  It is revolting. I don't, I I I had a scene where I had to eat a lot of brownies instead of sick on Cardi's brother. And I was just, I just sighed and just eating them. They were like, do you want a bucket? And I thought, I'm not, come on.

• 13:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:59Speaker 02

  I'm not spitting food into a bucket.

• 14:01Speaker 03

  I'm quite, I've got, I've always had a little.

• 14:03Speaker 02

  Rather like death before that, honestly.

• 14:05Speaker 03

  I've always had a little sensitive tummy anyway. I always get um like even the stuff wherever we had to where we in the show we throw up.

• 14:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:13Speaker 03

  Be like they they then throw up. That would be in the script every other episode.

• 14:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's a lot of them.

• 14:18Speaker 03

  And I would just throw up. Because the sound of people throwing up, me pretending to throw up, it would make me throw up. I remember I did it in the outback. Then I drink some washer fluid or something in the outback.

• 14:31Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, that's right, yeah.

• 14:32Speaker 03

  And I had to gag. And then the but the ritual of me gagging, my stomach goes, oh, oh, we've been sick now.

• 14:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:40Speaker 03

  I better throw up then.

• 14:41Speaker 02

  I remember there was a horrible scene in the tent in the last episode, the third series, where I lost track of which character was not was pretending to be sick and which person was just being sick.

• 14:53Speaker 03

  Just cold big soup.

• 14:55Speaker 02

  Oh, Christ.

• 14:57Speaker 03

  It would be just before action. You'd be like lying lying in your sleeping bag and they'd be like, right, get the big soup in.

• 15:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:03Speaker 03

  Like out of the tin.

• 15:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:05Speaker 03

  Like everything's just a bit grim.

• 15:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was, or it'd be out of um one of those foam cups. And there was something about the soft edge of the foam cup.

• 15:14Speaker 03

  Well, they got banned from set, didn't they? Because Morris has got that um phobia of polystyrene.

• 15:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, he didn't like the um.

• 15:22Speaker 03

  It's the noise of it and stuff.

• 15:23Speaker 02

  It's like with peach skin or something.

• 15:25Speaker 03

  Because I remember when I I.

• 15:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:27Speaker 03

  Really cruel now that I think back to it. But if I found some polystyrene.

• 15:32Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 15:33Speaker 03

  I would just go up to him and start squeaking in next to him and he'd go, oh no.

• 15:38Speaker 02

  Oh god.

• 15:39Speaker 03

  And then when I went, so I went from the in betweeners, I made a TV show in America a few years afterwards. And I was ju- I was literally walking around, I was talking to one of the producers and I was just going, how much are you spending an episode? He's like, we're about one point two, between one point two, one point four an episode. I went, give me an extra two hundred and fifty every episode, two hundred and fifty grand and I'll save you a million.

• 16:07Speaker 02

  Right.

• 16:07Speaker 03

  I was just going, this is all unnecessary. This is not, this is not, this is not how we did it. It's big soup, just cans of big soup.

• 16:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:14Speaker 03

  Like the food, the food alone is all these gourmet meals and all these special incredible chefs. Well, and the table, craft services, they call it, it's just constant all the time, it's a never ending. Like, and it's not lunchtime. I remember I had a-

• 16:30Speaker 02

  You can just kind of get whatever you want at any time.

• 16:32Speaker 03

  They were like, yeah, they were like, oh, it's eleven o'clock, um, let's have a break, let's have a, like a snack break or whatever. And, um, they were like, oh, they've got, um, gyros or something, right? I think that's what they were saying, or gyros or something.

• 16:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:46Speaker 03

  They were going gyros, gyros. I'm not sure how you pronounce it.

• 16:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:50Speaker 03

  I went, it's a kebab.

• 16:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:53Speaker 03

  That's a doner kebab. You have that at two o'clock in the morning when you pissed out your nut. Don't have it at eleven o'clock while we've still got another twelve hours to do.

• 17:04Speaker 03

  And everything's unionised, everything's got rules. I had to do one thing-

• 17:08Speaker 02

  Well, it's interesting because America always seems to me as, as a not particularly unionised country, apart from in our industry where it seems like it is quite heavily unionised.

• 17:17Speaker 03

  I had to do a thing where I had to do, not a stunt, I had to get pushed over.

• 17:21Speaker 02

  Right.

• 17:22Speaker 03

  And I wanted to make sure it looked real. And I said to the director, oh, can I, can I watch that back just so I can see? And the director was British.

• 17:31Speaker 02

  Right.

• 17:31Speaker 03

  I said, oh, can I, can I watch that back? Um, just, just so I can see what I can look like and see if I need to make any changes or anything. And, uh, and she went, oh, oh, no, we've, we've, um, we've not hired a playback guy, so, um, we can't. I went, I went, oh, yeah, I went, yeah, yeah. No, but can I just, just let me see it? And she went, no, no, I'm being serious. We, we, we, we, if we, if we need playback, we need to hire someone. To play it back for us.

• 17:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:58Speaker 03

  And we've not hired anyone. And if, and I was like, but you can just press, you can just press rewind and just, he was like, yeah, that's someone's job. If we do that, then we're breaking union rules.

• 18:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:09Speaker 03

  I was just going, nah, that's not how we do it on the in betweeners.

• 18:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:13Speaker 03

  That's not how we do it.

• 18:14Speaker 02

  No, I mean, no, that does seem, that does seem a bit silly.

• 18:24Speaker 03

  Welcome to Jurassic Park. No, welcome to Joe and James Fact Up. I wish.

• 18:31Speaker 02

  Imagine if it was Jurassic Park.

• 18:32Speaker 03

  Yeah. Um, a podcast loosely about facts, but it's more about the chats. Good.

• 18:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:39Speaker 03

  We're starting to.

• 18:40Speaker 02

  Lean into that.

• 18:42Speaker 03

  We always knew.

• 18:43Speaker 02

  Oh, how about the world up, James?

• 18:44Speaker 03

  Oh, that was amazing, wasn't it?

• 18:45Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. Do you remember what happened in the final?

• 18:47Speaker 03

  Phew.

• 18:47Speaker 02

  Oh, God.

• 18:48Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 18:49Speaker 02

  I don't think they'll be talking to each other ever again.

• 18:51Speaker 03

  Tense, wouldn't it?

• 18:52Speaker 02

  Unbelievable.

• 18:53Speaker 03

  Listen, if you.

• 18:54Speaker 02

  I thought, I thought actually that guy was, I thought that he went a bit far.

• 18:56Speaker 03

  Well.

• 18:58Speaker 02

  But, um.

• 18:58Speaker 03

  Passion, isn't it?

• 18:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:00Speaker 03

  In the heat of the moment.

• 19:00Speaker 02

  I know.

• 19:01Speaker 03

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• 20:45Speaker 03

  Before we do get into it, Joe, I want to do another little, what's becoming a regular feature. Trying to think of a title for it, but it's basically people from the in-betweeners that have just become more successful than us. Yeah. Fucking Lloyd Hughes in the new Spielberg film. Disclosure. Is he? That's annoyed me.

• 21:10Speaker 02

  So, yeah, there should be, there should be an embargo. It should be like, they're not allowed to work again.

• 21:15Speaker 03

  Well, come to me first, and then if I can't do it, then go to Donovan or whatever, you know? What's next? We're gonna see fucking Miles turning up. He wasn't even a character in the show. He didn't even have any lines, did he? Do you remember Miles?

• 21:32Speaker 02

  I feel like this is against union rules.

• 21:33Speaker 03

  The little blonde fellow. Do you remember him?

• 21:35Speaker 02

  I remember him. Yeah. Was he just in there to be like, look weird?

• 21:39Speaker 03

  He was an extra, but everyone loved him so much. And he got like, he then got his character got, I think his name was just Miles.

• 21:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it might have been.

• 21:47Speaker 03

  And then it was just like, oh, we can get Miles in this scene.

• 21:49Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah, he was just called Miles, wasn't he?

• 21:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's right. And he's one of the people who is, who have the badges on saying, hello, my name is Will. Hello, my name is. Yeah. So it's the other, it's all the other losers, basically, in Will's first day where he's put in.

• 22:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:08Speaker 02

  I feel like, is it one of the only other instances of the, the blazer would have been in that? That none of them wear the blazer. Basically, Will wears a totally different school uniform to everyone else. He's not, he's in, he goes to different school. They, they go to, I don't know, sort of like Hackney Academy, but he goes to Eton. Basically, that's the, that's the rules of the.

• 22:26Speaker 03

  But yeah, bloody Donovan's turned up in a Spielberg film.

• 22:29Speaker 02

  Well, again, if we're gonna say, if we're saying people.

• 22:32Speaker 03

  We're here.

• 22:34Speaker 02

  I am in a union and I think the reason I'm in the union is so that I shouldn't, I should get first.

• 22:39Speaker 03

  I feel more sorry for you.

• 22:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:41Speaker 03

  Because, because you're a nice guy and everything. I maybe don't deserve. I'm a piece of shit. I don't really deserve any good stuff.

• 22:48Speaker 02

  No, but I, no, listen, solidarity. We'll start a union.

• 22:53Speaker 03

  Have you ever thought that maybe I'm keeping you down? Maybe that you're associated with me too much.

• 22:58Speaker 02

  No.

• 22:59Speaker 03

  And it's like, oh no, he's.

• 23:00Speaker 02

  No, I'm gonna start a union and it's gonna be just me, you and the other two.

• 23:05Speaker 03

  Right.

• 23:05Speaker 02

  And it's, our policy is no one, no more. Given a, giving. No more handouts.

• 23:14Speaker 03

  I was watching.

• 23:14Speaker 02

  To other members of the Inbetweeners cast, unless all four of us.

• 23:18Speaker 03

  We get first refusal.

• 23:19Speaker 02

  Have in writing said, we don't want this.

• 23:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:23Speaker 02

  Feel free to offer it to another member of the cast.

• 23:25Speaker 03

  Absolutely, yeah, that's fair enough, isn't it?

• 23:26Speaker 02

  One of the supporting actors.

• 23:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's fair enough, isn't it?

• 23:29Speaker 02

  Hmm, that's funny. He wasn't one of the main four in the Inbetweeners. Yeah, oh, he'll be good enough. Disclosure.

• 23:35Speaker 03

  Unbelievable.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  Good luck to Spielberg.

• 23:38Speaker 03

  I was watching old Theo as well. Barkham bigs.

• 23:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:42Speaker 03

  Uh, in SAS Rogue Heroes.

• 23:45Speaker 02

  I find it quite weird that people do.

• 23:49Speaker 02

  Other jobs, genuinely, I, I've, I've, I've, I can't.

• 23:52Speaker 03

  I don't get it. You do one thing, you do one thing.

• 23:55Speaker 02

  You do one thing, then you do a podcast and you talk about it.

• 23:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:58Speaker 02

  What are they doing?

• 23:59Speaker 03

  What did it, the, and then.

• 24:00Speaker 02

  We're retired, we're retired, retired. Do the Disney thing, thirty, retire.

• 24:04Speaker 03

  Also, Theo.

• 24:05Speaker 02

  Retire.

• 24:06Speaker 03

  Theo Barkham bigs, right, he's not, he's not Richard. In SAS Rogue Heroes, he's playing a completely different character.

• 24:13Speaker 02

  I don't understand how.

• 24:14Speaker 03

  And I've had job offers, I've had like, job offers come to me and I keep going, oh, this character's not called Jay.

• 24:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:20Speaker 03

  You've given me a different character.

• 24:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:23Speaker 03

  Well, I don't know what you want me to do with that, mate.

• 24:25Speaker 02

  No, I have scripture, I'm like, would, I personally wouldn't do any of that.

• 24:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 24:30Speaker 02

  I wouldn't do that.

• 24:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:32Speaker 02

  So what?

• 24:32Speaker 03

  It's like, oh, in this scene, they take drugs and I go, I don't, I don't do drugs.

• 24:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I have stuff, I'm like, yeah, I don't live in Devon. Do you know what I mean? Like, I can't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be in that pub.

• 24:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:44Speaker 02

  I'm not from that part of England. Do you know what I mean? That wouldn't be that. Like, it's not like, I don't know who any of those people are.

• 24:51Speaker 03

  What are we doing? Oh, Joe's getting his big bag out.

• 24:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, we, I was just gonna say to you, we've been very occupied with the world up in recent weeks.

• 24:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:58Speaker 02

  So we decided to do a mailbag special, so we can all have a catch up.

• 25:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:01Speaker 02

  And get around to your burning questions and messages. So, um, let's, uh, should, should we, do you wanna do one?

• 25:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:10Speaker 02

  Well, this one has been subtitled baguette or naan.

• 25:12Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 25:13Speaker 02

  Um, and this is JD, uh, via the Fact Up email.

• 25:17Speaker 03

  Hello JD.

• 25:18Speaker 02

  Uh, does that mean you just emailed us?

• 25:20Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 25:20Speaker 02

  To our email address?

• 25:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 25:21Speaker 02

  We haven't got like our version of Gmail or something.

• 25:24Speaker 03

  No, we've got [email protected].

• 25:26Speaker 02

  So we've got an email address?

• 25:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:28Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 25:28Speaker 03

  You know that.

• 25:29Speaker 02

  No, I know we have. I just, I just, I just didn't wonder whether we'd set up our own.

• 25:32Speaker 03

  So Joe and James.

• 25:33Speaker 02

  It was unlikely.

• 25:34Speaker 03

  Joe and James Mail.

• 25:34Speaker 02

  Joe and James Mail.

• 25:35Speaker 03

  JJ Mail.

• 25:36Speaker 02

  Should we set up our own social network?

• 25:37Speaker 03

  Yeah. I don't know, man.

• 25:41Speaker 02

  Nah.

• 25:42Speaker 03

  Not evil enough. Um, right.

• 25:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. Hi Joe and James. Not really a fact, but an important debate nonetheless. Which do you reckon you could throw farther? A baguette or a naan bread?

• 25:54Speaker 03

  Naan.

• 25:54Speaker 02

  Love the pod JD. You're saying naan straight away?

• 25:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'd frisbee it.

• 25:58Speaker 02

  But I think, uh, well, we, we, maybe you could jab on the baguette. And I think.

• 26:03Speaker 03

  I think there'd be less resistance on a naan if you frisbeed it.

• 26:08Speaker 03

  Shall we throw, shall we go out and throw one over the roof right now?

• 26:11Speaker 02

  That's the real quiz.

• 26:14Speaker 03

  One and a two and a three and a four.

• 26:17Speaker 02

  Oh, yes. Looking good. Did it come over? Yeah, it came right past me.

• 26:24Speaker 03

  Came right past me.

• 26:25Speaker 02

  Oh, yes.

• 26:27Speaker 03

  Life.

• 26:27Speaker 02

  Life.

• 26:28Speaker 03

  Life.

• 26:28Speaker 02

  Life. Like Springsteen, Born to Run.

• 26:31Speaker 03

  No. No, no, no.

• 26:35Speaker 02

  Ah, so, I reckon.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  I think it's probably naan, but I'm gonna maybe say, are there any other breads that could go even? I mean, I think a naan is actually probably, if you were gonna design a bread to be thrown. Like, if I had a mate in prison, he was trying to get some bread.

• 26:54Speaker 03

  You wanna get some bread to your mate in prison?

• 26:56Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 26:57Speaker 03

  You need to get it over the wall.

• 26:58Speaker 02

  It's just bread, there's no drugs in it, it's just, it's just bread. On this occasion, it is just bread.

• 27:03Speaker 03

  That's what you would do as well.

• 27:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:05Speaker 03

  If like, bread was a code word.

• 27:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, I would actually.

• 27:08Speaker 03

  Your mate was like, Joe, you gotta get some bread to me.

• 27:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:11Speaker 03

  Cause otherwise I'm dead, mate.

• 27:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:13Speaker 03

  Alright, so if you can get some bread over the wall. Bread, yeah, you know what I'm talking about?

• 27:19Speaker 02

  I'd be like, I know, yeah, bread, yeah, yeah. Of course, I mean. Are you joking? Of course I know what bread is, yeah. I mean, I wasn't born yesterday. I wasn't born yesterday. I know what bread is.

• 27:28Speaker 03

  I'll be on the south wall.

• 27:29Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 27:30Speaker 03

  Six o'clock.

• 27:31Speaker 02

  No problem. Can I just say, if you want bread, you've come. If you want bread, you've come to the right person, cause I've, I've actually got loads of different places I can get bread.

• 27:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:39Speaker 02

  But if it was real bread, I would, I would choose a naan.

• 27:42Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 27:42Speaker 02

  And, but do you think there's any, I mean, I'm gonna, I suppose I'll maybe say, do you think there's any breads that might actually be even better? Cause I'm thinking maybe something like a hot cross bun.

• 27:53Speaker 03

  I think it would stick to your hand on release.

• 27:57Speaker 02

  The hot cross bun is what you use to escape from prison, you're like.

• 28:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:03Speaker 03

  Yeah. You'd rub a hot cross bun all over your hands and then scale the wall.

• 28:08Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 28:09Speaker 03

  Going on.

• 28:10Speaker 02

  Going on.

• 28:10Speaker 03

  Thanks, J D. We've got another one here from Katie. It's via Fact Up WhatsApp. Katie says, hi, Joe and James. No.

• 28:19Speaker 02

  Have we, have we launched our own?

• 28:21Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 28:21Speaker 02

  Okay. So we've just got a, got a phone number, okay.

• 28:24Speaker 03

  This one is for Joe. After hearing about how much time you spend at the zoo, I thought you might like to know a fact from my time working there as a face painter.

• 28:32Speaker 02

  Oh my god, I mean, she might literally have, anyway, yeah.

• 28:34Speaker 03

  Katie, do you know her? Katie the face painter?

• 28:37Speaker 02

  I mean, we've, you know, we've gone to the face painting place many times, but, um.

• 28:41Speaker 03

  Katie paints faces.

• 28:42Speaker 02

  Don't know whether we overlapped.

• 28:44Speaker 03

  Whilst painting a child's face as the Hulk and making them cry because it was too realistic. A siren started going off across the whole zoo with an announcement that a gorilla had escaped and everyone should make their way to the cafe immediately. Where they'd put it on lockdown. For fear of being taken down by a silverback on the way to the cafe, I decided to lock myself in the small shed we used for keeping the face painting equipment and waited there. I later heard that the gorilla hadn't hurt anyone. It had made its way straight to a nearby staff kitchen and drank three litres of of undiluted orange squash.

• 29:19Speaker 02

  Bloody hell.

• 29:20Speaker 03

  And then came quietly. Yeah, he was probably all queasy, wasn't he?

• 29:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's incredible. Well, first of all, I'm slightly alarmed that. How did that happen?

• 29:30Speaker 03

  Zoos, man. They're wild animals at the end of the day. Is there a gorilla at London Zoo?

• 29:36Speaker 02

  There's loads of gorillas and and I I really like them and I'm I mean, in a way, it may, I think in a way, it makes it a little bit more. I think they should let them out occasionally.

• 29:47Speaker 03

  I'm a gorilla in London Zoo. Do you remember singing that? Oh.

• 29:53Speaker 02

  I'm a gorilla. I'm a gorilla.

• 29:57Speaker 03

  I'm an alien.

• 29:58Speaker 02

  Don't drink orange squash with water, my dear. Just give me three litres neat.

• 30:08Speaker 02

  I will be in the nearby staff kitchen. I'm a gorilla in London Zoo. I think they should let him out a little bit.

• 30:20Speaker 02

  First of all, what the fuck? How's a gorilla escaping? That's one of the really, they're really dangerous.

• 30:25Speaker 03

  Don't take water with my squash, my dear.

• 30:33Speaker 03

  We're all in a weird mood today, aren't we?

• 30:36Speaker 02

  So you better lock yourself in the face painting shed. It feels like the beginning of a film somehow. It feels like the like the paint, the face painting is quite, is a nice little. It's quite a quite protagonist energy being the face painting person. Do you know what I mean? Like they'd be. Basically, what I'm saying is in the film, the gorilla kills everyone, apart from the person who paints faces.

• 30:59Speaker 03

  Because.

• 31:00Speaker 02

  She paints herself as a gorilla.

• 31:02Speaker 03

  As a gorilla.

• 31:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's right.

• 31:03Speaker 03

  Shit, we shouldn't be talking about this now, because that is fucking.

• 31:06Speaker 02

  But then, but then what happened is that.

• 31:08Speaker 03

  That's a million dollar idea.

• 31:09Speaker 02

  I think the gorilla then does fall in love with Katie.

• 31:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:12Speaker 02

  And.

• 31:13Speaker 03

  Well, that's where the sex comes in.

• 31:14Speaker 02

  Then.

• 31:15Speaker 03

  Because you've always got to have a steamy sex scene in the film.

• 31:17Speaker 02

  And it's, it's not like, it's tasteful.

• 31:19Speaker 03

  Yeah. Also, it'd be.

• 31:22Speaker 02

  I mean, it's raunchy.

• 31:23Speaker 03

  It'll be raunchy, yeah, it'll be hot.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  But it's tasteful.

• 31:25Speaker 03

  Yeah. And like. We'll get that Harambe, or whatever his name is.

• 31:30Speaker 02

  And we'll get an intimacy.

• 31:31Speaker 03

  I'm always thinking Harambe, yeah.

• 31:33Speaker 02

  Who's, is Harambe a famous gorilla?

• 31:34Speaker 03

  He's like, really sexy. Women started swooning over this gorilla.

• 31:39Speaker 02

  He was.

• 31:39Speaker 03

  He was shot.

• 31:40Speaker 02

  He's been shot?

• 31:41Speaker 03

  He's been shot. Can everyone stop getting shot?

• 31:43Speaker 02

  Oh, my god.

• 31:44Speaker 03

  Oh, right.

• 31:45Speaker 02

  He's got quite a human bum. It's quite, um. The cheeks are quite.

• 31:50Speaker 03

  Pilkington, Pilkington would disagree.

• 31:53Speaker 02

  What does he say?

• 31:54Speaker 03

  He's like, we're ninety-eight percent. Genetically similar to chimpanzee. Well, that's the arse.

• 32:03Speaker 03

  Only two percent. We only have two percent difference. Well, that's the arse.

• 32:10Speaker 02

  Oh, that's.

• 32:10Speaker 03

  Great story.

• 32:11Speaker 02

  Amazing story.

• 32:12Speaker 03

  Thanks for that, Katie.

• 32:13Speaker 02

  I've got quite a lot of questions, uh, in response to that, but I'm sure they've dealt with the.

• 32:19Speaker 03

  I'm sure the zoo knows what, well, you say the zoo knows what it's doing, but usually the zoo is run by other human beings.

• 32:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:30Speaker 03

  We make mistakes all the time, don't we?

• 32:31Speaker 02

  We certainly do, yeah.

• 32:32Speaker 03

  Let's not think about it. Hey, Joe. It is time for fact check. This is the part of the, uh, episode where we, where you send us a fact or a question that you'd like us to get to the bottom of.

• 32:44Speaker 03

  Harambe's bottom. And then we're gonna have a good little think during the ad break. We'll come back and let you know how true it feels to us. And to decide whether it passes our fact check.

• 32:55Speaker 02

  Okay, so this week's fact check comes from Harvey, who sent in a message.

• 33:00Speaker 03

  Through what?

• 33:01Speaker 02

  Uh, just written down. I'm gonna read it out.

• 33:04Speaker 03

  Oh, okay.

• 33:04Speaker 02

  Okay. Hi, all.

• 33:07Speaker 02

  I'm really enjoying listening to the podcast, so keep up all the good work. Thank you. It brings a smile to my face, whatever mood I'm in, and makes me laugh all of the time. That's a nice thing to say. I'm not actually sure if this is true or not, but I've heard that if you lay on your back with your legs in the air for long enough, the blood will run down from your legs into your penis and make it erect. Again, I'm not sure whether it's true or not, but it would be hilarious to hear you discuss it on the podcast. Well, you're in luck.

• 33:32Speaker 03

  Well, hang on.

• 33:33Speaker 02

  Keen to listen to the next episode. Harvey.

• 33:36Speaker 03

  Let's have a little break and then we'll be back with our thoughts.

• 33:48Speaker 06

  Hello, I'm Joanna Fletcher.

• 33:50Speaker 07

  And I'm Marco Burchella.

• 33:52Speaker 06

  And this is Boots Off.

• 33:55Speaker 07

  We are friends who have spent a decade together, walking up mountains, across deserts and along coastlines with some seriously awesome groups of humans.

• 34:03Speaker 06

  And something happens when you're out there, feet on the ground, surrounded by nature. The conversations just spill out of you.

• 34:09Speaker 07

  This series is about the adversities that lead to adventure.

• 34:12Speaker 06

  The adventures that lead to adversity.

• 34:14Speaker 07

  And how life can be one big adventure in itself.

• 34:18Speaker 06

  Listen every Thursday. Just search for Boots Off.

• 34:25Speaker 03

  And we're back. We were just fact checking on behalf of Harvey, who wanted to know if you lay on your back with your legs in the air for long enough, the blood will run down from your legs into your penis and make it erect. Now, I think we could do a two-pronged attack on this one, Joe. We can give our initial thoughts right now.

• 34:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:45Speaker 03

  And then maybe we could go away.

• 34:47Speaker 02

  And see if it works.

• 34:48Speaker 03

  And test it.

• 34:49Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 34:50Speaker 03

  It doesn't seem like it would be a difficult thing to test.

• 34:52Speaker 02

  I can't, I can think of other things happening if I put my legs in the air.

• 34:58Speaker 03

  I think my legs would just get pins and needles.

• 35:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, I also feel like if we're using gravity with our blood circulation, we are kind of, that's kind of the point, isn't it? Like, that would be a problem, wouldn't it? Because there'd never be any blood in your head, because it'll be just down in your shoes.

• 35:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, also, yeah. Well, you do lift things above your heart, don't you, to stop the blood fro- flow from getting to them?

• 35:22Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, of course, in Cub Scouts, if you have got a wound, elevate it.

• 35:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:27Speaker 02

  So, yeah, I mean, the, the heart has to work harder.

• 35:30Speaker 03

  I just think that you'd always have an erection, like you, you, the penis is below, if you're standing up, the penis is lower than the heart. If we're going, if we're talking about gravity and blood throw.

• 35:42Speaker 02

  There's already, yeah.

• 35:43Speaker 03

  Blood, blood throw.

• 35:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:44Speaker 03

  Blood flow.

• 35:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, you, yeah, you're right. If, if gravity is to do with it, then you're not even necessarily helping matters by lying down, putting your legs up.

• 35:54Speaker 03

  And your toes would be like.

• 35:55Speaker 02

  Just go around in a normal way.

• 35:56Speaker 03

  Blown up johnnys or something.

• 35:59Speaker 02

  If this was true, then it would be almost impossible not to have an erection.

• 36:02Speaker 03

  I don't know why we went with blown up johnnys. Could have gone with water balloons.

• 36:05Speaker 02

  That's all right. For want of a better word.

• 36:07Speaker 03

  For want of a better word.

• 36:08Speaker 02

  The only way to not have an erection would be to get your penis higher than every other part of your body.

• 36:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:15Speaker 02

  So you would have to be hoisted up.

• 36:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:19Speaker 02

  Via the penis.

• 36:26Speaker 02

  It'd be very difficult to lose an erection, wouldn't it?

• 36:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:29Speaker 02

  Like, get it up there. Get that penis up.

• 36:31Speaker 03

  Do you reckon they do things like that in medieval times?

• 36:34Speaker 02

  They might. I bet they did all sorts. Yeah. Medieval torture stuff.

• 36:37Speaker 03

  Hang him.

• 36:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:38Speaker 03

  By the penis.

• 36:39Speaker 02

  Yeah. Oh, they did a lot. They did do a lot of weird stuff.

• 36:42Speaker 03

  They were obsessed with torture.

• 36:44Speaker 02

  They really were.

• 36:45Speaker 03

  Really, really sadistic. Do you know that big, big metal boot that the French used to use?

• 36:50Speaker 02

  No.

• 36:51Speaker 03

  They would put both your feet wedged in this big metal boot.

• 36:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:56Speaker 03

  And then fill the boot up with lead, molten lead. What's, why?

• 37:02Speaker 02

  Yeah. What, so you were just stuck in a boot forever?

• 37:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, no, but, no, but you, you would survive.

• 37:08Speaker 02

  Oh, you die from the lead. So, yeah, so, yeah, no, I see, yeah.

• 37:10Speaker 03

  But it would, um.

• 37:11Speaker 02

  Of course, the lead would kill you, yeah.

• 37:12Speaker 03

  Incredibly painful.

• 37:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know. It's really horrible. They did it really.

• 37:17Speaker 03

  They had all those little bloody cages with spikes in them and stuff. What, oh, iron maidens?

• 37:23Speaker 02

  I read a thing, um, and they used to do a thing in Roman times where they'd just put you in a big sarcophagus. And they'd pour in like loads of like honey and stuff. So basically just flies and things are getting eaten and alive by these small.

• 37:38Speaker 03

  Really slowly.

• 37:40Speaker 02

  I don't know what, I don't know why they were doing all that. And if you read, um. There's a book called The Better Angels of Our Nature by Steven Pinker. And he talks about how one of the things that happened in the Enlightenment was that they were like, should we maybe stop just appallingly torturing people quite regularly? And they sort of did stop. And he's not sure why they did it, but he thinks that one of the reasons they might have done it is that people became better at, um. Using their imaginations to imagine that they were the other person. It's like, he was, he was like empathy, but he's, he was like.

• 38:22Speaker 02

  There were a lot more novels written at this time. And actually, what was happening with novels is people were going, oh my God, it's like, I've just read something. And it was like. I was sort of rooting for this person who wasn't me. And it was like, I was them. And even though the bad thing hadn't happened to me, I felt sad, even though it happened to them. And he genuinely thinks it might as well do that. But kind of in a way, like, imagine not having empathy, because then you probably would put lead in feet and stuff and, and because you'd be like, well, who cares?

• 38:48Speaker 03

  But I'm gonna go, I'm gonna say it's not fact for now.

• 38:52Speaker 02

  I.

• 38:53Speaker 03

  But I will go and check.

• 38:55Speaker 02

  Are we honestly gonna go and check? How long do we have to live? Two minutes?

• 38:58Speaker 03

  I don't know. Did he say two? He didn't say two minutes.

• 39:00Speaker 02

  You said two minutes.

• 39:01Speaker 03

  No, you've got.

• 39:02Speaker 02

  He's, he's given them.

• 39:03Speaker 03

  God, Jesus, Joe, this, I'm not gonna get an erection in two minutes.

• 39:07Speaker 02

  I can't get an erection in two minutes in the, in the best case scenario.

• 39:13Speaker 03

  I don't know where my legs are. You're gonna have to give me a bit more time.

• 39:17Speaker 02

  I mean, do you wanna go and try and do it? I mean, it's not gonna happen, is it?

• 39:21Speaker 03

  I'll give it a go.

• 39:22Speaker 02

  All right, well, should we do two minutes?

• 39:24Speaker 03

  I think, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna aim for ten minutes.

• 39:27Speaker 02

  I think we're a bit pressed for time today, so.

• 39:29Speaker 03

  No, I mean, I'm gonna go home and do it.

• 39:30Speaker 02

  I'll go home and do it, so I think maybe, so.

• 39:32Speaker 03

  I'm not gonna sit here and get an erection in front of everyone.

• 39:35Speaker 02

  I know. I didn't know. I thought you meant you go in the corridor or something. I just thought it's gonna be very good for the podcast, because I've just got empty chairs, um.

• 39:44Speaker 02

  No, I knew you, I knew you didn't mean do it now, but I, well, at first I thought you did and then, and then I realised you probably meant go out, but then actually you didn't mean that.

• 39:50Speaker 03

  No.

• 39:50Speaker 02

  So I say I realised.

• 39:51Speaker 03

  I'll do it during the week at some point.

• 39:52Speaker 02

  I'll try during the week. Okay, fine. Well, in that case, the world's our oyster. Would you, would you want to do a full day?

• 39:57Speaker 03

  Well, we'll see.

• 39:58Speaker 02

  Okay, we'll see how we go.

• 39:59Speaker 03

  We'll see how we go. Harvey, we'll get back to you on that one.

• 40:00Speaker 02

  Harvey, okay.

• 40:01Speaker 03

  We'll do the research.

• 40:02Speaker 02

  The best we can offer you Harvey is probably it hasn't happened yet. We'll come back and say we did do it, maybe we just didn't do it long enough.

• 40:07Speaker 03

  Right. Um, if you'd like a fact for us to check, head to the episode's description for all the ways to get in touch. Shall we get back into, um, our, uh, our correspondence, Joe?

• 40:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, this is great. So we've got a would you rather here. This is, um, Ryan.

• 40:24Speaker 03

  I don't like would you rathers.

• 40:26Speaker 02

  No?

• 40:26Speaker 03

  I think it's the, uh, it's the lowest form of conversation.

• 40:31Speaker 02

  Would you rather have a fact or a would you rather?

• 40:34Speaker 03

  Cause it's always like, would you rather this really shit thing or this really shit thing?

• 40:38Speaker 02

  I know.

• 40:39Speaker 03

  And I do, I do, whenever someone says that to me, I go, I don't care. You pick. They're both really shit.

• 40:44Speaker 02

  Would you ra, so this is the would you rather?

• 40:45Speaker 03

  This is from Ryan.

• 40:47Speaker 02

  Would you rather have to speak in rhyme for the rest of your life or only be able to speak in riddles?

• 40:53Speaker 03

  Rhyme.

• 40:55Speaker 02

  I like, I like both. I, to be honest, this is actually not, they're both shit. They're both good.

• 40:59Speaker 03

  So.

• 40:59Speaker 02

  Cause what he's really saying is, would, would you rather have to live without rhyme or live without riddles?

• 41:04Speaker 03

  What if you're Rumpelstiltskin? Cause I feel like all he did was rhyme and riddles constantly.

• 41:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:12Speaker 03

  I mean, I haven't read this books for thirty five years, right? But I'm go, I'm going off a memory of the Rumpelstiltskin story.

• 41:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:20Speaker 03

  There's some bird, right? And she's involved with the king somehow.

• 41:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:24Speaker 03

  And, um, he, there's a rumor that she can, uh, that she can.

• 41:33Speaker 02

  Rumor gets round.

• 41:34Speaker 03

  There's a rumor that gets round that she can spin straw into gold.

• 41:41Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 41:41Speaker 03

  So she can put straw on a spinning.

• 41:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:45Speaker 03

  Thing and and and what comes out the other end is gold.

• 41:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:48Speaker 03

  And the king's like, right, get her in.

• 41:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:50Speaker 03

  And she's and then she's and then and he's like, if she don't fu- start spinning any gold, she um, you know, I'll stick her feet in a boot or something, right?

• 42:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:01Speaker 03

  So she's panicking, she gets locked up in a little room with a spinning wheel and a load of straw and she's like, I can't fucking spin straw into gold, that's nuts. Why does anyone even fucking believe that?

• 42:12Speaker 02

  Bloody rumours.

• 42:13Speaker 03

  Then a little fella turns up at the window, he's like, I can help you.

• 42:17Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 42:18Speaker 03

  I can um, I can spin spin the straw into gold. She's like, that'd be amazing if you could do that, that'd be really great. And he start, he starts asking favours of her back. Nothing weird. But um, and and after, after I think the third time he comes back or something, he's like, oh, you need me to do this gold again. Cause she's like, yeah, every time, every time you do it, the gazer wants more. I'm fu- like, this is getting a bit much. And he goes, right, uh, tell you what, I'll do it for you one last time, but you mu- you must promise me your firstborn child. And she goes, yeah, yeah, sure, whatever.

• 42:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:55Speaker 03

  Anyway, she spins the gold, king's happy, she then goes off and lives her life, forgets all about the the little guy.

• 43:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:03Speaker 03

  And then um, and then he go, and then then she has a baby.

• 43:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:08Speaker 03

  Who comes out of the woodwork.

• 43:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:09Speaker 03

  Old, old, well, we don't know his name at the moment.

• 43:11Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 43:12Speaker 03

  And uh, and he goes, right, you need to give me your, you need to give me your firstborn. That was the deal. She was like, shit, that was the deal, wasn't it?

• 43:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:19Speaker 03

  He goes, well, I'll let you, I'll do you a little, an extra deal. Um, you've got till noon tomorrow, and if you can tell me my name.

• 43:27Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 43:28Speaker 03

  I'll um, I'll let you off. She goes, right, and she doesn't know his name. No one knows his name.

• 43:34Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 43:35Speaker 03

  But then he's off and he's singing a little song, starts singing a little song and it ends with something like, and my name's Rumplestiltskin.

• 43:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:42Speaker 03

  And somebody overhears it and it gets back to the woman. And then he goes, right, it's noon, what's my name? And she goes, I know your name, it's Rumplestiltskin. And he gets so angry that he smashes his foot through the floor. And that's the end of the story.

• 43:56Speaker 02

  That's the end, right.

• 43:57Speaker 03

  It's a concrete floor and he smashes his foot through it. Stone floor, stone floor.

• 44:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, oh my god, yeah.

• 44:03Speaker 03

  That's the story of Rumpelstiltskin.

• 44:05Speaker 02

  It's hard to know what the moral of that story is, and so I just.

• 44:07Speaker 03

  That's the kind of stories that were bedtime stories that were read to me as a kid.

• 44:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. Follow people round, they might sing you what you need to know.

• 44:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:16Speaker 03

  How did we get on to this?

• 44:18Speaker 02

  Well, we got on to it because it was, would you speak in rhyme or riddles?

• 44:21Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 44:22Speaker 02

  So, um, um.

• 44:24Speaker 03

  Rhyme, rhyme, I'm going, I'm going rhyme. It'd be good for if you wanted to be a musician, I suppose, a lyricist. Because they'd be like, oh, can you make some lyrics up? Um, here's what I want to say, but it doesn't really rhyme, you go down, I'll help you out.

• 44:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, they'd go like, um, ah, uh, I want to rhyme something with like, I've got the feeling. And you go, it's something to be a ceiling.

• 44:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:49Speaker 02

  Just touch the ceiling.

• 44:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:51Speaker 02

  Um, they go, I want something about like putting your hands in the air.

• 44:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:55Speaker 02

  And I said just something about, oh, you don't care.

• 44:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, like, it's always, always the same. Feeling, feeling is always with ceiling.

• 45:01Speaker 03

  I would.

• 45:02Speaker 02

  Across the board.

• 45:03Speaker 03

  I would go.

• 45:03Speaker 02

  Across the board, it's the only one there is.

• 45:05Speaker 03

  I would go straight to, um, the Black Eyed Peas and say, I'll help you out, guys.

• 45:12Speaker 03

  Instead of just saying, I've got a feeling that tonight's going to be a good night.

• 45:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:16Speaker 03

  Tonight's going to be a good night, tonight's going to be a good, good night.

• 45:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:20Speaker 03

  Why don't we try and add a rhyme in there somewhere? I've got a feeling.

• 45:25Speaker 02

  That I'm going to paint the ceiling.

• 45:26Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah.

• 45:27Speaker 02

  Yeah. Um, and well, riddles is, I mean, what's a good riddle?

• 45:32Speaker 03

  Um, I don't know.

• 45:33Speaker 02

  I was talking to, um, my, uh, my brother and my sister-in-law recently about not understanding riddles. They're not really riddles, but more like sort of, uh. Those phrases. Um.

• 45:47Speaker 03

  A man came into town on a horse.

• 45:49Speaker 02

  Well, no, yeah, well, that's a, that's a good example of a riddle. And then he, he came in on Monday, but he left on, no.

• 45:54Speaker 03

  He came in on Monday.

• 45:55Speaker 02

  He came in on, he came in on Monday, stayed a day and left on Friday.

• 45:57Speaker 03

  No, no, he came in on Monday, stayed three days, robbed a bank and left on Monday. How is that possible?

• 46:05Speaker 02

  Monday was the name of his horse.

• 46:06Speaker 03

  Monday was the name of his horse.

• 46:07Speaker 02

  A lot of names, a lot, a lot of things with names.

• 46:11Speaker 03

  Aren't you clever?

• 46:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, um.

• 46:14Speaker 03

  Also, Monday's not a good name for a horse. So, well done.

• 46:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:18Speaker 03

  There's another riddle. I remember getting told a riddle of this as a kid, and this tells you how far we've come, just from when I was a child.

• 46:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:27Speaker 03

  You know, in the nineties.

• 46:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:30Speaker 03

  There was one riddle that a teacher, what was his name? I can't remember his name. Anyway, he was, he was like, he was really proud of this riddle. He was like, there was a father and a son in a car crash.

• 46:43Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, I think I know what it is.

• 46:45Speaker 03

  And the father, uh, and they're both, and the boy gets taken to the hospital and the father's unconscious. And the doctor goes, I can't operate on this child. It's my son.

• 46:56Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 46:57Speaker 03

  And the big riddle was, doctor was a woman.

• 47:00Speaker 02

  Doctor was a woman. Yeah. I know, I know. And people would be racking their brains for like years. They'd be like, what is it? Fucking hell! Who is this bloke?

• 47:10Speaker 03

  Believe it or not, the surgeon was a woman. It was his mum.

• 47:16Speaker 02

  What do we say?

• 47:17Speaker 03

  Uh, rhyme. I'm going rhyme.

• 47:18Speaker 02

  Rhyme, I'm saying riddles.

• 47:20Speaker 03

  Okay. All right.

• 47:23Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 47:24Speaker 03

  All right, riddles.

• 47:24Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 47:27Speaker 03

  That's it. I don't know how much you can get out of a what would you rather?

• 47:30Speaker 02

  I really like that.

• 47:31Speaker 03

  Not a big discussion.

• 47:36Speaker 03

  Um, let's move on. Let's move on. Keith.

• 47:40Speaker 02

  It is a big discussion.

• 47:41Speaker 03

  Keith has sent us a WhatsApp message. His message is called-

• 47:44Speaker 02

  He was trying to run something with discussion.

• 47:46Speaker 03

  His message is called Cheese Beats. Keith says, "Hey Joe and James, I wanted to share something I've heard. Cheese tastes better when it has previously listened to hip hop." Oh, what are we doing?

• 48:00Speaker 02

  No, we asked for this.

• 48:02Speaker 03

  I know. I appreciate this might sound niche. No, that wasn't the first thing.

• 48:08Speaker 02

  It doesn't sound niche.

• 48:09Speaker 03

  Oh god, it goes on, "And I have in fact taken the day off work to properly study it."

• 48:13Speaker 02

  Incredible. What is your job? What do you do? Is it a... Do you know what he was as well? He's genuinely head of the Navy.

• 48:19Speaker 03

  "I've placed a pack of Emmenthele in an empty fridge with my JBL speaker, playing A Tribe Called Quest on loop for the past three hours. The results are still preliminary, but the energy in there feels promising." Oh dear. Is this... Should we be indulging? I feel like this is-

• 48:37Speaker 02

  Well, I don't-

• 48:38Speaker 03

  I think this might genuinely be a cry for help. "Also, apparently, certain cheeses respond to different genres. Goat's cheese, for example, seems to lean towards electronic music. Would be keen to hear your thoughts on this, and even better, if you could maybe try it out yourselves." Any... No, I'm too busy doing the erection one. Anyways, love the podcast. Keep doing what you're doing. Warm hugs, Keith, aka The Mudman."

• 49:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:05Speaker 03

  Wow. Have we found out-

• 49:07Speaker 02

  Well, I'd like to know what's with the mud-

• 49:08Speaker 03

  Have we found our very own pull-the-party animal, Parker?

• 49:10Speaker 02

  Maybe we have, yes.

• 49:12Speaker 03

  I feel like Keith, you need to, uh, one, follow up with what you've discovered, and then-

• 49:17Speaker 02

  And also, obviously, why are you called the Mudman? Like, come on, what you-

• 49:22Speaker 03

  Why are you called the Mudman?

• 49:23Speaker 02

  Because that sounds like that involves at least one other day off work to get-

• 49:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:27Speaker 02

  The Mudman thing going. Um, oh, is that his job? Oh, so that's his job. Okay, so he's the Mud... His job is he's the Mudman. So he goes around, "Any mud? Mud? Any mud?"

• 49:37Speaker 03

  Maybe he does that thing. Is it called mudlarking or something?

• 49:40Speaker 02

  He might do mudlarking. I've done mudlarking. That's good.

• 49:42Speaker 03

  Is it?

• 49:43Speaker 02

  Oh, it's brilliant. Yeah, the Thames is a tidal river.

• 49:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:47Speaker 02

  So there's always new stuff being exposed. Old dinner sets being pulled out.

• 49:51Speaker 03

  Brilliant.

• 49:52Speaker 02

  Pipes, lots of pipes. Coins, um.

• 49:56Speaker 03

  See a coin, that's what you want. You find a coin, find like an ancient Roman coin or something.

• 50:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, I actually found a coin while I went, uh, it was um nineteen twelve or something. It was, it was an old.

• 50:07Speaker 03

  That's not too bad.

• 50:08Speaker 02

  It was, it was not the city monarch. I mean, now that's, you know, all over the place, but.

• 50:12Speaker 03

  Nineteen twelve, that's not Victoria, that's.

• 50:15Speaker 02

  No, it would have been George, no, George the fifth.

• 50:19Speaker 03

  Right.

• 50:19Speaker 02

  Think, George the fifth.

• 50:20Speaker 03

  Who was George the fourth? What's the one that just sort of went, um, he was king for about five minutes. He was like, oh no, I've got this American bird.

• 50:29Speaker 02

  Oh, that's Edward the seventh.

• 50:31Speaker 03

  Right.

• 50:31Speaker 02

  Edward, uh, yes, and he wanted to marry. Uh, Wallace Stevens, who was an American divorcee.

• 50:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, we can't be having that.

• 50:42Speaker 02

  Can't be doing that, so um.

• 50:44Speaker 03

  Not on my watch.

• 50:45Speaker 02

  No, absolutely not. So then he went off and I think they got, they got a little bit in with the Nazis unfortunately, but um.

• 50:51Speaker 03

  They did a little bit, didn't they?

• 50:53Speaker 02

  But, I mean, the Nazis at that point, they would, you know, they, they, that was before they'd.

• 50:57Speaker 03

  How was you supposed to know?

• 50:58Speaker 02

  You couldn't know at that point, could you?

• 50:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:59Speaker 02

  It was just, that Hitler seemed fine, didn't he? All that ranting and.

• 51:03Speaker 03

  You know, the um. The Kaiser. Uh, so after World War One, he fled and lived the rest of his life in. Holland, Netherlands.

• 51:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, Netherlands.

• 51:15Speaker 03

  I never know what to say.

• 51:16Speaker 02

  Well, no, the, Holland is not, uh, this is the answer.

• 51:19Speaker 03

  I've had this explained to me so many times.

• 51:21Speaker 02

  It's the Netherlands.

• 51:22Speaker 03

  Right, so he.

• 51:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:25Speaker 03

  He went.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:26Speaker 03

  To the Netherlands, right? But then his son was like, oh, no, Germany should still have a king, should have.

• 51:33Speaker 02

  They often do get a bit like that.

• 51:35Speaker 03

  Son was all like, this Hitler fellow. Because they, the Nazis at that point wanted to seem legitimate.

• 51:42Speaker 02

  They absolutely did, yeah.

• 51:44Speaker 03

  So he was like, oh, if I support them, because they're being quite nice to me, um. And Hitler used that.

• 51:51Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 51:52Speaker 03

  Then, and then he was like, once Hitler gets into power, he's gonna.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  Hand it over to me.

• 51:57Speaker 03

  He's gonna go, right, you're back as as king again.

• 51:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:00Speaker 03

  Turns out Hitler just went, thanks, mate.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 52:03Speaker 03

  Thanks, mate. Got what I could get out of you. Now you can fuck off.

• 52:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, they loved a celebrity, the Nazis. Um, Göring was basically a celebrity. He's a sort of air ace. And he was a sort of hero from World War One, like top gunner.

• 52:19Speaker 03

  Fighter pilot, red Baron.

• 52:21Speaker 02

  That's right, red Baron type character.

• 52:23Speaker 03

  Mudman. Thank you very much.

• 52:25Speaker 02

  Mudman, I mean, so what are we saying on this? I don't know. I mean, maybe there is a kind of reverberatory. Cheese does. Mature, doesn't it? I mean, um, maybe wine is something that also that might.

• 52:36Speaker 03

  I just, I say we we'd leave it to the mudman, see what he comes back with. I'm sure he'll write back to us.

• 52:41Speaker 02

  Keith, hand on heart, I don't think that we're gonna do a better study than you are, um.

• 52:47Speaker 03

  I mean, he's clearly.

• 52:48Speaker 02

  You're already doing it. You're handling it, mate. You're handling it.

• 52:51Speaker 03

  He's got some cheese with a Bluetooth speaker in the fridge.

• 52:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, I I I'm not, I'm not dismissing it. It feels quite sort of new scientist, you know, the kind of esoteric letters page of the new scientist. They sometimes have things like this, and I don't think it's necessarily completely insane. Let's see what happens. Um, cheese does change over time, and maybe the reverberations. Might cheese, you know, food tastes different at high pressure and low pressure. Things in the air can affect.

• 53:25Speaker 03

  They've done stuff with, um, they've looked into vibrations and.

• 53:32Speaker 03

  Because back, way back, back in the olden days, way back in the olden days, people, people were obsessed with vibrations. And ley lines and things like that, and solstices and whatnot, um.

• 53:45Speaker 02

  There was also, they were quite into like, um. Is it like mesmerism and that kind of thing? And like, wasn't there anything called, they believed in like the ether and stuff, isn't that?

• 53:56Speaker 03

  Masterkites.

• 53:58Speaker 02

  I don't know what you just said. You say masterkites?

• 54:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, that was a religion.

• 54:05Speaker 03

  That was a religion in the Middle East. During, uh, what was his name? Kurosaw?

• 54:14Speaker 02

  Don't really know about.

• 54:15Speaker 03

  You don't know that guy? He was the guy that um stuck it to Justinian and managed to get all the way to the Mediterranean.

• 54:22Speaker 02

  Oh blimey, but one of the Justinian, one of the later Roman embers.

• 54:25Speaker 03

  He was Byzantine, yeah.

• 54:28Speaker 03

  Curacao, I'm surprised you don't know about Curacao. I'm sure I'm saying his name incorrectly.

• 54:33Speaker 02

  Aren't Curacao one of the teams that qualified for the first time for the World Cup this year?

• 54:38Speaker 03

  I don't know, I don't know about that one. If it's not the World Up, I don't care about it, to be honest with you.

• 54:43Speaker 02

  No, I shouldn't have been watching the World Cup.

• 54:44Speaker 03

  No.

• 54:45Speaker 02

  I'm not watching it. I I overheard some people talking about it and I said, can you shut the fuck up?

• 54:50Speaker 03

  Listen, we better wrap this one up because we've got, we've got to go.

• 54:53Speaker 02

  Oh, that's it. Okay.

• 54:53Speaker 03

  That's it.

• 54:54Speaker 02

  Okay Keith, um.

• 54:56Speaker 03

  Call him by his name.

• 54:58Speaker 02

  The Mudman?

• 54:58Speaker 03

  Yeah. Have some respect. Put some respect on his name.

• 55:03Speaker 02

  H R H, The Mudman.

• 55:05Speaker 03

  Keep the mud man's name out of your fucking mouth. Right, um.

• 55:11Speaker 03

  I'm all fact out. What have we learned today, Joe? I think I've, I think I've lost knowledge.

• 55:17Speaker 02

  Well, it has to been the mailbag. So we haven't learned anything yet. We've been given lots of questions. We've, we've learnt that, um. Just going back to it again. Oh, we've learned that a gorilla escaped at London Zoo.

• 55:28Speaker 03

  Well, we don't know if it was London Zoo.

• 55:30Speaker 02

  It was London Zoo.

• 55:30Speaker 03

  It just said a zoo.

• 55:33Speaker 02

  Oh, at the zoo. But she said, you, how much time do you spend at the zoo?

• 55:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:37Speaker 02

  I thought you might actually know a fact from my time working there. It must be London Zoo.

• 55:41Speaker 03

  You're such a little Londoner, aren't you? There's other zoos, Joe. There's other zoos in this country. Anyway, that's what we've learnt. Um, we hope that you've learnt something or had a nice time at least. We'll be back next week, armed with more facts, chats and Harambe's six pack.

• 55:57Speaker 02

  Good.

• 55:58Speaker 03

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