Can Burying a Sausage Save Your Marriage?

Did Robbie Williams own the millennium? Who would The Inbetweeners be in Take That and does a sausage have the power to change the weather? Joe Thomas and James Buckley tackle life's most important of the unimportant questions this week. GET IN TOUCH: Whatsapp us - wa.me/447822034330 http://wa.me/447822034330 Fill in our Fact Up Form - https://forms.gle/uzF6XWPqaA5aNTtN7 Subscribe on Youtube - www.youtube.com/@JoeandJamesPod/videos http://www.youtube.com/@JoeandJamesPod/videos Follow us on Instagram - www.instagram.com/joeandjamespod http://www.instagram.com/joeandjamespod Follow us on TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@joeandjamespod http://www.tiktok.com/@joeandjamespod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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  I'm terrified of being like, I mean, I'm sure everyone's touched some wood right now. But I've only been under general anaesthetic once in my life.

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  Me too.

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  And I'm terrified of going under general anaesthetic now, post being on the TV and the Inbetweeners stuff, because I just think people will just have a little look at my knob.

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  I just think they will. I think they'll be like, we've got Joe from the Inbetweeners in here.

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  I don't think they'll look at your knob.

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  I think they will. I think they will, Joe.

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  I don't, I mean.

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  That's also why, like me and Claire, we're.

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  Our, our, our youngest child is, hmm, how old is he? He's thirteen in a couple of months' time. That's our youngest child.

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  Yeah.

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  He's thirteen. Me and Claire, we're done with the kid thing.

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  Yeah.

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  Uh, so I should, uh, and I know I am as well. You just, uh, listen, let's be realistic. Whatever happens with me and Claire, I don't know. She, she might finally come to her senses at some point. But I know that even if I.

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  She's got too many sunk costs now.

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  But even.

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  She's like, she's.

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  Even if I was to move on.

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  It'd be embarrassing for her because she would have wasted all this time and like, she'll just make it look as though it's.

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  An idiot.

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  Yeah, she'd look like an idiot.

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  All that stuff that all her pals were saying.

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  Yeah.

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  At the beginning of our relationship, what are you doing with him? Like, what the fuck's going on there?

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  You were right and they were like, oh my god.

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  She doesn't want to prove them right.

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  No, exactly. Yeah.

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  But, um, like, i- if, uh, if me and Claire split up or whatever, like, I, I, I've no intention of, uh, uh, uh, of having it with Claire or without. I don't want any more kids at all whatsoever.

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  Yeah.

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  I should go and have the old snip, shouldn't I?

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  Yeah.

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  I just, I don't want, I don't, I don't want people looking at my knob. It's so annoying.

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  They are gonna look at your knob. I, I don't.

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  Well, someone's gonna have to with that, um.

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  Oh, I see, with that thing. Oh, right. Well, yeah, but if, but in a, in, yeah, but in a.

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  I feel like I've had, I feel like I've been, um, ambushed by doctors in the past as well. Where I've gone into situations where I'm definitely sure I'm not gonna have to get my knob out. But then I do.

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  Yeah.

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  I remember we did that thing. No, but I remember when, when, uh, for the Inbetweeners movie, the first Inbetweeners movie.

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  That was funny.

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  We all had, we all, you all have to have, you all have to go to Harley Street.

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  Yeah.

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  And we all went at different times because it was, um, fit around our schedule for the, for the, um, rehearsals.

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  Yeah.

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  So, oh, James, you're not in this, uh, afternoon. These scenes are just Blake and Will, uh, Blake and Will, Blake and Bird and whatever, right? So I'll um.

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  Whoever they are.

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  Whoever the fuck they are.

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  Joey.

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  Joey Simons.

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  Yeah, Sarah Jessica Parker.

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  So they go, all right, you go off to your doctor's appointment now. And I think I was the last one to go. I went to Harley Street. It's for the insurance. Cause if you die, they can't do a film. And you're, I thought it was to make sure you're healthy enough to do a film. It's not at all. It's to just say, we had him checked.

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  Yeah.

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  And now he's died and we can't make a film, so we need some money back.

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  Yeah.

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  Right. And I came back and I was the last one to go to my doctors. And I was like, I was talking to you boys. I was like, God, it's a bit intense, wasn't it? Like usually it's like, oh, um, did you, was you out of breath walking up the stairs on the way in? And you go, no, they go, right, you're fine to do a film. Because funny enough, you don't have to be in the peak condition to make a movie.

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  No.

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  Unless you're Tom Cruise and you're jumping out of planes or whatever.

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  Yeah.

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  You're fine.

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  Yeah.

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  Right? Um, usually all the films that I've been doing are usually set in someone's living room or in a restaurant or something.

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  And we're not, we're not generally playing characters who are supposed to be.

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  Action heroes. Yeah, sure.

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  We're not meant to look good without top off.

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  So, um, and I came back, came back to the rehearsals to carry on the day with you guys. I was like, fucking, that's a bit much, wasn't it? Fucking. Having a chat, you old balls and your cock there. And all you boys, all you boys went, what? What are you talking about? I was like, well, my doctor, who's the oldest man I've ever seen in my life, by the way. Had his bony, had all his bony fingers, like feeling, feeling my pipes in my balls, which I didn't know was a thing, to be honest. I don't know what he was doing. And in hindsight, I'll be honest, I've thought about it a tiny amount. And I stopped myself from thinking about it because I go, yeah, that was unnecessary. I'm not a hundred percent sure what's gone on in that situation.

• 5:49Speaker 03

  It was, I don't, I cannot find any logic in my brain. I can't find out a reason why. He said, um, how old are you? And I think I was twenty four or something like that, twenty three. He was like, well, you're in the bracket for testicular cancer, so I better check that and then make sure you're all right. And I went, oh, okay.

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  Well, yeah, it's a free, free testicular cancer. Check.

• 6:15Speaker 03

  I tell you something, man, the guy, the, the, the chap there is not, it's not the biggest of the best of times. And he really fucking let me down. Any sort of situation where, uh.

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  Yeah, no.

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  Where he, he might have to pop out and say hello for a second. I feel like he's going.

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  Oh, no, absolutely not. Yeah, I've never, I've never been impressed with.

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  No, sometimes I do, like, um.

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  I don't even know.

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  Sometimes I do catch it and I go, do you know what? You're not doing too bad, man. You're doing all right. And then other times it looks like a completely different penis is on my body. Like some sort of child has swapped penises with me or something.

• 6:59Speaker 04

  The kind of the cold, the, you mean really cold sea.

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  But not even cold, like any water. Unless it's the shower, any water, uh, leaves me like, like most swimming pools are heated to a. For want of a better word, degree.

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  Hmm.

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  Pun-tastic. No, what is it? Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

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  Unbelievable, that is unbelievable, yeah.

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  Right? Um, but they're not.

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  And it may be, it might even, it might.

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  Anytime.

• 7:29Speaker 04

  Just about be, for want of a better word as, as well, but.

• 7:31Speaker 03

  Anytime I'm in a swimming pool.

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  Yeah.

• 7:33Speaker 03

  The guy just goes.

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  Yeah.

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  Just disappears. Like sometimes I've like, when you go on holiday with the, with the kids and stuff like that and. You spend a day by the pool and I've been getting in and out of the pool all day long and then I have a shower in the evening. And I'm, I go, where are you? Where have you gone there?

• 7:54Speaker 03

  I'm trying to clean you, mate. We're in the shower now.

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  Just, yeah, doesn't want to be cleaned.

• 7:59Speaker 03

  Trying to catch it, trying to sort of catch it.

• 8:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:03Speaker 03

  It's like, it's like trying to, um, peel a panini sticker.

• 8:09Speaker 03

  You've got to get your fingernail under it. Try and catch a lip.

• 8:14Speaker 04

  I'm trying to find the end of the sellotape.

• 8:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, absolutely. That's exactly what it's like, the search for my penis sometimes.

• 8:18Speaker 04

  You know what?

• 8:19Speaker 03

  I'll just leave it, yeah.

• 8:21Speaker 04

  Yeah. You never really need sellotape, do you? It's quite low stakes, isn't it? You'd never, there's never life or death with sellotape, is it? If somebody just said, there's no more sellotape in the world, it'd be like, that's fine.

• 8:32Speaker 03

  It's a very emotional organ.

• 8:34Speaker 04

  It is emotional.

• 8:35Speaker 03

  Unless, unless, unless conditions are prime.

• 8:39Speaker 04

  Do you remember the thing at school where they go, the cannibals, the cannibals give you an erection before they eat your penis so that there's more meat?

• 8:44Speaker 03

  That's from, uh, Gervais. Yeah.

• 8:47Speaker 05

  In school.

• 8:49Speaker 04

  In school. And all by, and in school as well. We did have that in school as well.

• 8:54Speaker 03

  Is there more meat? It's ju, it will just be blood. I imagine if you gave me an erection and then chopped off my penis, it would just go.

• 9:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, it wouldn't, of course it wouldn't. It definitely wouldn't be bigger because there's more meat. It's definitely not true.

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  Yeah.

• 9:10Speaker 04

  Yeah. Definitely not true.

• 9:11Speaker 05

  Would it be like a water balloon, do you think?

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  Yeah.

• 9:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 9:15Speaker 04

  It would, yeah.

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  A fleshy water balloon.

• 9:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

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  Yeah.

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  Be like a.

• 9:19Speaker 05

  I feel like I'm learning lots.

• 9:20Speaker 04

  Yeah. No, it wouldn't. It would, there's no, of course there's no more meat.

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  I'm just saying, ladies, it's a very, uh, it, it, you know, sometimes it looks good and sometimes it, it looks very sorry for itself. You can't judge the penis.

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  Hmm.

• 9:37Speaker 03

  And everyone does.

• 9:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:39Speaker 03

  And that's why I'm terrified. I know for a fact, if you put some general anesthetic in my body, that my penis would go, oh no, it would just freak out.

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  You don't, you don't know. It might be.

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  You know, with the.

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  Maybe I could, maybe I could, maybe I could give myself an erection before I.

• 9:54Speaker 04

  Try, yeah, I suppose maybe you need to.

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  Before I go under general anesthetic.

• 9:58Speaker 04

  Maybe that's what you need to do. I, um.

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  Do you have a nickname for your penis?

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  Uh.

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  While we're here, that's what I'll ask.

• 10:05Speaker 04

  No, I don't, I mean. I know, are you, are you supposed to?

• 10:10Speaker 03

  I don't know, man.

• 10:11Speaker 04

  Is it weird not to? Like having a pet and.

• 10:15Speaker 05

  But how would you refer to it, you know, just in sort of day to day?

• 10:18Speaker 04

  My brother's mother-in-law, she has a cat, she doesn't have a name.

• 10:21Speaker 03

  What?

• 10:23Speaker 04

  She's um, she's, she's Dutch and she's quite um, like, un-sentimental.

• 10:30Speaker 03

  Right.

• 10:30Speaker 04

  So they went, oh, what's your cat's name? And she was like, oh, it's just a cat.

• 10:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's just a cat.

• 10:34Speaker 04

  Unbelievable. That is like, but she likes the cat, just very European, very sort of like, which is a cat? It doesn't have a name, that's so stupid.

• 10:42Speaker 03

  My mate Ferg's cat.

• 10:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

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  You know Ferg, didn't you?

• 10:45Speaker 04

  I know, yeah. Do I know Ferg?

• 10:47Speaker 03

  Yeah. Have I told you his cat's name? Dead now, but years ago.

• 10:52Speaker 04

  Dead now, but years ago?

• 10:52Speaker 03

  No.

• 10:53Speaker 04

  Funny name?

• 10:53Speaker 03

  He's cat.

• 10:54Speaker 04

  Oh, pointless, genuinely pointless.

• 10:57Speaker 03

  Uh, Hovercraft.

• 11:01Speaker 04

  What? That's ridiculous.

• 11:04Speaker 03

  His cat was called Hovercraft.

• 11:05Speaker 04

  Hovercraft?

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  He used to call it the craft.

• 11:10Speaker 04

  Okay, yeah.

• 11:13Speaker 04

  That's amazing.

• 11:14Speaker 03

  His cat's name was Hovercraft.

• 11:15Speaker 04

  That's genuinely amazing. My family cat when I was little was Pussy.

• 11:20Speaker 03

  Pussy, fine.

• 11:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, but it's uh, well, but it's, you know. That's, that's a shame that, because it was, that's a fine name for a cat.

• 11:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, Pussy used to be a hu- like, the name that humans had as well.

• 11:34Speaker 04

  It's quite, it's quite sort of streetcar named desire, isn't it? Like, you're calling the cat in, who'd be doing that? What's he called? Stan? No, not Stanley. The Marlon Brando one. He'd be shouting out, Pussy! And then your teacher would go, this is a very clever reminder of the fact that sex is everywhere.

• 11:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:52Speaker 04

  Because at the beginning of that, he's calling out something like, red meat, red meat! And it's like, this is a reminder of how he's a man and

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  Right.

• 12:02Speaker 04

  So my, you know. Calling out Pussy out the back door, that's quite.

• 12:05Speaker 03

  That's not that clever. I've never seen that.

• 12:07Speaker 04

  Well, that's, yeah, I don't think it was that clever either.

• 12:08Speaker 03

  I've never seen the play or the film.

• 12:09Speaker 04

  The other thing they've seen, but she kind of desires, like, there's absolutely.

• 12:11Speaker 03

  It's meant to be incredible.

• 12:13Speaker 04

  It's got incredibly long stage directions.

• 12:15Speaker 03

  If he's just saying red meat and that's meant to be context, subtext.

• 12:20Speaker 04

  It's full of underlying, yeah.

• 12:21Speaker 03

  Yeah. There's not, there's no subtext about that.

• 12:23Speaker 04

  There are two streetcars.

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  Shouting red meat.

• 12:24Speaker 04

  One's called Cemeteries and one's called Desire. What does that tell you?

• 12:28Speaker 03

  Right.

• 12:29Speaker 04

  Sex and death.

• 12:30Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 12:30Speaker 04

  Yeah. Pretty clever stuff.

• 12:32Speaker 03

  There is an old, a very old song, um.

• 12:38Speaker 03

  I think it's from, I think it might be from the late nineteenth century or something like that. And it's um, it's a double entendre, very naughty.

• 12:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:51Speaker 03

  Uh, but you do, if you, even if you listen to it now.

• 12:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:54Speaker 03

  It would like make Eminem blush.

• 12:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:58Speaker 03

  Uh, it's like, my girl's pussy.

• 13:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, it's, no, no, because, because, because no one knew what it meant.

• 13:04Speaker 03

  The lyrics of it.

• 13:04Speaker 04

  No, well, I've got, I've got, I've got, um, I've got like a Bob Dylan album of like, not his songs, but stuff that he's.

• 13:10Speaker 03

  She's wet in the, at the night, my girl's pussy.

• 13:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, it is, yeah.

• 13:14Speaker 03

  On a banjo or something like that.

• 13:16Speaker 04

  They, because once that door's open, once like, oh, no one knows what I really mean, I, then you can just do whatever you want.

• 13:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, I've got, well, there's a song, an old song from like the.

• 13:25Speaker 03

  Lily May, can you find out the my girl's pussy lyrics for us quickly?

• 13:28Speaker 05

  I'd love to Google that on my work.

• 13:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, why not?

• 13:32Speaker 04

  But I think, yeah, if you, if people don't know what the language means, then you can.

• 13:37Speaker 05

  Okay, Harry Roy and his orchestra, my girl's pussy. Do you want me to get the lyrics off?

• 13:41Speaker 03

  What, what year was it? Do you know?

• 13:43Speaker 05

  Uh, nineteen thirty one.

• 13:45Speaker 03

  Oh, a lot more recent than what I thought it was.

• 13:47Speaker 05

  I mean, in, in lieu of um, a film script, you could read some of the lyrics verbatim if you wished to.

• 13:53Speaker 03

  No, we'll, we'll save, we'll save the film scripts. We'll, we'll get your film scripts in. Me and Joe are desperate. To um, reenact some of your favourite scenes.

• 14:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, please, please specify scenes, I think would be really helpful, actually.

• 14:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, oh, yeah.

• 14:06Speaker 05

  If they're films I haven't seen, scenes would be good to know.

• 14:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, we need scenes, sexier the better.

• 14:09Speaker 04

  The whole, yeah.

• 14:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:11Speaker 04

  Not the whole script.

• 14:12Speaker 03

  No, of course not.

• 14:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:14Speaker 03

  What are the lyrics there, Lily May?

• 14:16Speaker 05

  Um, what, all of them? Oh, actually, it is quite short.

• 14:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, it's not, it's quite, it, it, it's not, I assume back in the thirties, it was a bit sort of, oh, I wonder if he is talking about that. I think now, this day and age, you go, right, we know what the guy's going on.

• 14:31Speaker 04

  But what about the James Bond films? Like, literally one of them's called Octopussy.

• 14:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's a bit.

• 14:36Speaker 04

  And you're like, I mean, for heaven's sake.

• 14:39Speaker 03

  Well, there's Pussy Galore.

• 14:41Speaker 04

  Pussy Galore, I mean, just, like, just like mainstream British films.

• 14:44Speaker 05

  Obsessed with the quantity of pussy as well, Octopussy and Pussy Galore.

• 14:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's too, that's already too much pussy.

• 14:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, so much pussy.

• 14:52Speaker 03

  I'm sure there's a couple more.

• 14:53Speaker 04

  She's only one woman. So if you had a bloke who was called like, one hundred penises, you'd be like, well, that just sounds, that just sounds really weird. Like, just a man covered in penises. You're like, oh, just tell you what, she's a lucky lady.

• 15:03Speaker 03

  Well, of course, Mike, Mike Myers.

• 15:07Speaker 03

  Did the, you know, did the joke.

• 15:08Speaker 04

  Oh, what's it?

• 15:09Speaker 03

  Uh, in Austin, in Austin Powers. Austin Powers, there was a genuine, I only just recent, uh, recently, um, read about this was that there was, um, Barbara Broccoli and the, the producers of the, of the James Bond films were genuinely like, uh, because there was a big break between from Pierce Brosnan to Daniel Craig.

• 15:32Speaker 04

  Right.

• 15:32Speaker 03

  Um, and they were like, Austin Powers has fucked it. Austin Powers has fucked it. Like, we can't, we can't do anything anymore because it is, it is now just a joke. Austin Powers was, Austin Powers is one of the greatest films ever made, by the way.

• 15:46Speaker 04

  Brilliant.

• 15:46Speaker 03

  Uh, the first one specifically.

• 15:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:48Speaker 03

  It is, and it does, it does just tear apart.

• 15:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:52Speaker 03

  That whole genre.

• 15:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:53Speaker 03

  And one of the women, one of the femme fatales.

• 15:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:57Speaker 03

  In Austin Powers is a lotter.

• 15:59Speaker 04

  Oh, that's right.

• 15:59Speaker 03

  A lotter vagina.

• 16:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, it is, no, I mean, it, yes, I think.

• 16:07Speaker 03

  But pre Austin Powers, it was like, oh, pussy galore.

• 16:10Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. No, I think.

• 16:12Speaker 03

  Say no more. Whereas Austin Powers just went, that's fucking mental.

• 16:16Speaker 04

  It's ridiculous. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Yeah.

• 16:18Speaker 05

  Do you remember the character in The Mighty Boosh in the episode of The Priest and the Beast called Spider?

• 16:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, he had eight cocks. Yeah.

• 16:27Speaker 03

  He had eight penises. And there's a scene where Noel Fielding i- is out having a piss.

• 16:35Speaker 03

  Loads of sprays coming out of him.

• 16:37Speaker 05

  Heavy spray. I think he actually elevates a little bit from this.

• 16:43Speaker 03

  It is the, it is this, what is it? Your pons about in a dress?

• 16:48Speaker 05

  It's not a dress.

• 16:49Speaker 03

  It is not a dress.

• 16:50Speaker 05

  It's a robe.

• 16:51Speaker 03

  Of the psychedelic monks. It's the sacred robe of the psychedelic monks. Boosh is brilliant. Uh, yeah, give, give us some of those, just a few of those lyrics from My Girl's Pussy.

• 17:03Speaker 05

  There's one pet I like to pet and every evening we get set, I stroke it every chance I get. It's my girl's pussy. Seldom plays, never purrs. I love the thought, it stirs, but I don't mind because it's hers.

• 17:19Speaker 03

  It's my girl's pussy.

• 17:20Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 17:21Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 17:22Speaker 05

  Often it comes out at night, return at the break of dawn, no matter what the weather's like, it's always nice and warm. Right, okay, that feels gross in my mouth.

• 17:31Speaker 05

  Oh, it gets worse. It's never dirty, always clean. It's in giving thrills, never mean, but it's the best I've ever seen. It's.

• 17:39Speaker 03

  My girl's pussy.

• 17:41Speaker 05

  I think I'll leave it there.

• 17:42Speaker 04

  Brilliant.

• 17:43Speaker 05

  It actually just repeats from there.

• 17:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:45Speaker 05

  Oh, there's a little bit at the end where it's got flourished, but we don't need to do that.

• 17:49Speaker 03

  Shall we, um, shall we do the old pod?

• 17:51Speaker 04

  Let's do a podcast.

• 17:58Speaker 03

  Welcome to Joe and James Fact Up. Each week we'll be bringing facts to one another that we deem interesting and our policy is the more interesting, the more true it is. Um, I'm sure you're all still trying to get your minds back together.

• 18:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:13Speaker 03

  I'm sure they were blown by our road facts last week.

• 18:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:18Speaker 03

  I'm sure you're all struggling. I, I, I hope a week has given you enough time to.

• 18:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:23Speaker 03

  Uh, recover from.

• 18:25Speaker 04

  No, it was.

• 18:26Speaker 03

  That there are more vans on the road these days and that buying a house in San Francisco can be quite expensive.

• 18:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think we, um, we really kind of.

• 18:36Speaker 03

  Oof.

• 18:37Speaker 04

  We didn't really try and go like, it's not what you'd think with the road facts. We were like, it is what you think. Um, yeah, I think we kind of let ourselves down a bit.

• 18:47Speaker 03

  But we've got, well, we've got more facts today, don't worry.

• 18:51Speaker 04

  Well, you say we've got more facts. I haven't got mine yet.

• 18:54Speaker 03

  Oh, I've got mine.

• 18:55Speaker 04

  But.

• 18:55Speaker 03

  If you don't want to do one, that's fine. I've got mine and mine's quick.

• 18:58Speaker 04

  Okay. Oh, no, I'll have one. Don't worry.

• 19:01Speaker 05

  That's bad form considering today's theme as well. I'm not gonna lie.

• 19:04Speaker 03

  Hey.

• 19:04Speaker 04

  The anniversary of Anne Boleyn's death?

• 19:06Speaker 05

  Well, yeah, you know, women.

• 19:08Speaker 03

  You're spoiling them.

• 19:09Speaker 04

  Because it looks like I don't care.

• 19:10Speaker 05

  About women, yeah.

• 19:11Speaker 03

  I was gonna, um, I was gonna build up to it.

• 19:13Speaker 04

  No, I.

• 19:14Speaker 03

  Oh, I was gonna build up to it. Well, we are gonna, we're gonna be doing facts about Anne Boleyn. Um, what's wrong with that?

• 19:21Speaker 04

  Anne Boleyn.

• 19:22Speaker 05

  Anne Boleyn.

• 19:23Speaker 04

  It did sound like the Anne Boleyn alley.

• 19:24Speaker 05

  Have you heard of her before?

• 19:26Speaker 03

  Anne Boleyn.

• 19:28Speaker 04

  Anne, oh yeah, Boleyn.

• 19:29Speaker 03

  And, uh.

• 19:30Speaker 05

  Because the.

• 19:31Speaker 04

  Anne Boleyn.

• 19:32Speaker 03

  Anne Boleyn Day, is that right?

• 19:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, so it's the anniversary of Anne Boleyn's death.

• 19:36Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 19:37Speaker 05

  It was four hundred and ninety years ago today.

• 19:39Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 19:40Speaker 05

  That's crazy, isn't it?

• 19:41Speaker 03

  Doesn't seem that long ago.

• 19:42Speaker 05

  And she's my favourite of Henry's wives.

• 19:44Speaker 03

  She's the favourite one?

• 19:45Speaker 05

  Yeah, I think she's kind of iconic.

• 19:47Speaker 03

  Well, I've got, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's a, she's a yes queen.

• 19:52Speaker 05

  I actually dressed up as of Halloween one year.

• 19:54Speaker 03

  Really?

• 19:54Speaker 05

  I don't, I don't know how tasteful that is, but.

• 19:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:56Speaker 04

  But you did like a head off?

• 19:57Speaker 05

  Uh, no, I had a necklace that was like blue dripping from your neck.

• 20:01Speaker 03

  Too soon? It was like, ooh.

• 20:05Speaker 05

  I respect her.

• 20:07Speaker 03

  Ooh, it's a bit much.

• 20:10Speaker 03

  Lily, mate, I'm gonna have to ask you to leave. Some people are a bit uncomfortable with your costume, of course. They're still.

• 20:20Speaker 05

  I've disgraced myself and I'm sorry.

• 20:22Speaker 03

  Did you turn up as Diana the next year?

• 20:26Speaker 05

  Nah, I've got to wait a few hundred years for that one, yeah.

• 20:28Speaker 03

  Okay, um, but we will be talking about Anne Boleyn. We've got some Anne Boleyn facts. Joe might have one. Um, we'll also dig into the weird facts that you'd like us to think are true, but can't be asked to research yourself in a segment that we're calling Fact Check. Speaking of which, there is a fact, there is something I can't be asked to check myself. And I, I was hoping that you would, um, help me out or you would do the work. Because we don't ask enough of you already. Um, but I, on my zips.

• 20:57Speaker 03

  Pretty much every zip I own.

• 20:58Speaker 04

  I know what you're gonna say, YKK.

• 21:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fuck's that all about?

• 21:02Speaker 04

  That is really weird. I always assumed it was just one.

• 21:05Speaker 03

  They just, they've just patented the zip or something.

• 21:08Speaker 04

  They do everything.

• 21:09Speaker 03

  Imagine that, fucking, uh, well, if you can be bothered, let us know what the YKK on the zip means. Let us know in the comments. I'll be reading them.

• 21:18Speaker 04

  Because it, it used to, I, I, when I, I, I think I first noticed it in the year two thousand.

• 21:23Speaker 03

  Right.

• 21:23Speaker 04

  And I was like, YKK.

• 21:25Speaker 05

  And you've not even looked it up from then.

• 21:27Speaker 04

  No, I haven't got time, really, mate. I've, I've.

• 21:30Speaker 03

  It's one of, there's some stuff that you really would like to know, but you just sort of go, I'd really like to know that, but I'm at work at the moment.

• 21:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:36Speaker 03

  And then you forget it for a few months and then you remember it again when you're driving and you go, right, I'll be able to check that when I get home.

• 21:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 21:42Speaker 03

  Anyway, um, those things can go on for years, can't they?

• 21:46Speaker 04

  It's funny, no, I think, I think, I think it's like, I feel like if I'm looking that up. I would just intrinsically feel that I should be doing something better with my time.

• 21:56Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 21:57Speaker 04

  Like if I, I'm saying, am I really, I, I would, I really, I would honestly think I'm, you know, I'm lucky to exist at all.

• 22:03Speaker 03

  The pursuit of knowledge.

• 22:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, but it feels like I should be pursuing other knowledge.

• 22:07Speaker 03

  All right. And then when you're at a pub quiz.

• 22:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:09Speaker 03

  And it comes up.

• 22:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's true.

• 22:10Speaker 03

  And you're the fucking hero.

• 22:12Speaker 04

  That's true. And now I've won money. Yeah, from my mates and their families.

• 22:17Speaker 03

  Always think of the pub quiz. I can't remember the last time I was at a pub quiz.

• 22:21Speaker 04

  I went to one.

• 22:22Speaker 03

  But the pub quiz is something that I think about all the time. I, I'll learn something, I go, right, remember that, just in case I'm in a pub quiz.

• 22:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:30Speaker 03

  I could be a hero. Claire's all over me.

• 22:34Speaker 04

  Yeah. No, I do things like that as well.

• 22:36Speaker 03

  That's what goes on in my head.

• 22:38Speaker 05

  That's how getting an answer right in a pub quiz feels, especially if people aren't backing you on it.

• 22:42Speaker 03

  What are we talking about? Um, yeah, no, find out what YKK means on the old zip there for me. But if you want us to find something out for you, say find something out, me and Joe discuss it, we decide whether we think it's real or not, and then Queen Lily May will um actually tell us whether it's true or not. Um, send us your facts to verify. Uh, our email is hello at joeandjamespod.com. Our WhatsApp is 07822 034330 and follow us on socials at joeandjamespod and you can watch all our episodes in full. Just go to YouTube, search Joe and James Fact Up. Now, let's get fact up.

• 23:24Speaker 06

  Hello, this is Susie Ruffel.

• 23:25Speaker 07

  And Maisie Adam.

• 23:26Speaker 06

  And together we host Big Kick Energy. Hey Mais, what is it?

• 23:29Speaker 07

  Only the best podcast ever.

• 23:31Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 23:31Speaker 07

  A comedy entertainment podcast with a focus on all things women's football, all things hilarious, all things friendship. It's a laugh is what it is, Ruffel.

• 23:41Speaker 06

  Yeah, and a fair bit of gossiping too.

• 23:43Speaker 07

  Oh, and a lovely bit of gossip. Chow down on the gossip.

• 23:46Speaker 06

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• 23:51Speaker 07

  Grab a knife from Falcon, tuck in, baby.

• 23:57Speaker 03

  I'll tell you someone who does have good arse, Joe.

• 23:59Speaker 04

  Me? I have got a good arse.

• 24:01Speaker 03

  You've got a good bum. Joe's bum. Joe's got a really nice bum.

• 24:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:06Speaker 03

  I don't want to objectify you, Joe.

• 24:07Speaker 04

  I don't mind.

• 24:09Speaker 05

  I can probably say I wouldn't know.

• 24:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:11Speaker 03

  Show Lily Mo. Show Lily Mo your bum.

• 24:14Speaker 04

  No, she doesn't. I don't think she wa- I feel like she doesn't want to, but um.

• 24:18Speaker 05

  If I catch it, I'll let you know.

• 24:19Speaker 03

  You've got a nice bum, haven't you?

• 24:21Speaker 04

  Thank you very much.

• 24:22Speaker 03

  I bet you've been told that a couple of times in your life as well.

• 24:25Speaker 04

  I've been told it a little bit, yeah. I've been told it a little bit.

• 24:27Speaker 03

  It is sort of like, comes from nowhere. It is a bit like, oh fucking hell, that's a good bum.

• 24:34Speaker 04

  No, when I was a-

• 24:34Speaker 03

  You don't expect it.

• 24:35Speaker 05

  When do you think you first noticed?

• 24:37Speaker 04

  Well, I was told, my girlfriend at school told me when I was in sixth form. She was like, oh, good bum.

• 24:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:43Speaker 04

  I was like, thanks very much.

• 24:44Speaker 03

  Well, I feel like Joe is-

• 24:45Speaker 04

  He used to be better, I think. I was really, I had really good legs in sixth form. I played football every day.

• 24:50Speaker 03

  I used to cycle to school. I used, my thighs used to be massive.

• 24:54Speaker 04

  Yeah. Me too. They met in the middle. They rubbed.

• 24:58Speaker 03

  My thighs were insane. Like, I used to, because my school was in a different town to where, and I got sick of getting the bus.

• 25:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:07Speaker 03

  I used to cycle for a bit. Um, I feel like your arse was out all the time while we were doing the in-betweeners. You more so than anyone else for some reason.

• 25:16Speaker 04

  The testicle episode, I basically just thought-

• 25:18Speaker 03

  I mean, you've got great testicles, isn't it?

• 25:20Speaker 04

  But by that point, I kind of thought, what's happened is that Ian and Damon have basically just got a map of my body. And they're like, seen, seen, seen, seen.

• 25:30Speaker 03

  The problem is, we were, we were sort of a bit of a boy band, right?

• 25:34Speaker 04

  Yeah. I often feel that's what we were like.

• 25:36Speaker 03

  Like, maybe, uh, maybe Simon Bird, maybe he wrote the songs.

• 25:41Speaker 04

  He's Gary Barlow.

• 25:42Speaker 03

  He's the Gary Barlow. Me and Blake were, um, Howard and Jason Orange.

• 25:48Speaker 04

  No, I think you're doing yourself down there.

• 25:49Speaker 03

  You were very much the Mark Owen.

• 25:50Speaker 04

  I think maybe I was the Mark Owen, but I think you, I think, you know, I think, I think you and Blake, you're, that's not, you're more, you're very much more Robbie Williams.

• 25:59Speaker 03

  No, none of us were Robbie Williams.

• 26:01Speaker 04

  None of us?

• 26:01Speaker 03

  No.

• 26:03Speaker 04

  Mr Gilbert, is he Robbie Williams?

• 26:05Speaker 03

  Davis, Greg Davis. He was, yeah, he was the Robbie Williams.

• 26:07Speaker 04

  Because he went off on his own, did his stand-up.

• 26:09Speaker 03

  He went off on his own and fucking came massive.

• 26:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 26:12Speaker 03

  He was definitely the Robbie Williams.

• 26:13Speaker 04

  He's Robbie.

• 26:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:16Speaker 04

  Well.

• 26:16Speaker 03

  There's a really, also, talking about Netflix, there's that really good Take That documentary on Netflix as well. I loved it. I really loved it. And I know I'm meant to be all Britpop and fucking, like, I did like, take that. I did. I was more E17. Um, but I did, I, I still appreciate.

• 26:37Speaker 04

  E17, because I watched the documentary about boy bands and actually I didn't realise, but like E17 were like, they weren't really like, well, the word that everyone used at the time was manufactured. They, they weren't really that. They were kind of, they actually sort of did just.

• 26:49Speaker 03

  Well, they were, they were the anti Take That at the time.

• 26:52Speaker 04

  But they were relatively, I don't know, I've just been taken in by this documentary, but they seem like relatively like, spont, they just emerged spontaneously. They kind of put themselves together like they, they weren't kind of.

• 27:03Speaker 03

  Think, I think something manufactured in the nineties is different to what it.

• 27:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 27:09Speaker 03

  It, it's not just Simon Cowell putting something together now.

• 27:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 27:13Speaker 03

  Um, I think there is, I think even then, when something was manufactured in the nineties, there was still something organic about it. Even Take That, there was still, there was still.

• 27:21Speaker 04

  And what's amazing about them is.

• 27:23Speaker 03

  Organic origin of, of Gary Barlow with these great, and say what you like about Gary Barlow and say like it's chewing gum pop or whatever. The compositions and the pop songs are absolutely brilliant. They're, they're great, great songs. It's so Robbie Williams as well. I was a huge Robbie Williams fan. I used to be ashamed of being a Robbie Williams fan. It was me, I had me and, and two of my mates. Uh, Jack and Muller, uh, and, and we were, we were obsessed with Escapology, that album. Absolutely incredible. Swing when you're winning. That's a, I know they're all covers, but they performed brilliantly. And, um, and it, we used to have to keep it on the down like, we used to be like, don't tell anyone.

• 28:03Speaker 03

  Um, and it also is a credit to Robbie Willie. I don't want to bang on about Robbie. He is a bit of a hero of mine. Uh, I, I think he's a bit, um, been through the mill and he's a bit of a tortured soul and he's come out the other end. Um, a bit worse for wear. And I know a few people like that, to be honest, especially when they've been young. And they've got all this incredible fame.

• 28:23Speaker 04

  It's hard to, to, to come out.

• 28:25Speaker 03

  There's no way.

• 28:26Speaker 04

  In time.

• 28:26Speaker 03

  I, I, I don't, I, I don't, if, I, I think you'd be more of a psychopath if you didn't come out.

• 28:32Speaker 04

  I agree. If it doesn't, if you, if you become a celebrity and.

• 28:37Speaker 03

  And you're cool with it.

• 28:38Speaker 04

  And yeah, and it's like, yeah, I should always have been this. Like, there's something weird about you.

• 28:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think so.

• 28:42Speaker 04

  If it doesn't fuck you up, then like, you're probably, it's.

• 28:45Speaker 03

  But I can't, I can't imagine being. As big a star as Robbie Williams, like at a certain point.

• 28:54Speaker 04

  There was a time when it was the millennium and he had the song, we spoke at, well, maybe again to link it back up, YKK on the.

• 29:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, sure.

• 29:01Speaker 04

  So maybe it's to do with that, but at the time of the millennium, it was almost like, cause he had the song, it was almost like he was in charge of the millennium. So every time it was like, when it was in a millennium, it was like, he was going millennia, it's the millennia, it was like, it was like he somehow, it was like, it's Robbie Williams presents. Literally the end of a thousand years.

• 29:17Speaker 03

  Imagine.

• 29:17Speaker 04

  That's pretty amazing to to kind of get your name onto the millennium.

• 29:20Speaker 03

  But also imagine this, Joe, right?

• 29:22Speaker 04

  I know Zoom had the pandemic.

• 29:23Speaker 03

  And in hindsight, and I watched the, again on Netflix, the Robbie Williams documentary, and it reminded me of a lot of stuff. And in hindsight, when you think back um to how attacked and ridiculed Robbie Williams was, like I was saying. I had to keep it on the down low, that I was a Robbie Williams fan, I don't, I don't tell anyone that I really did enjoy Robbie Williams' music. But to be constantly told in the sun and the newspapers and stuff like that, Robbie Williams is an idiot, if you like him, you're an idiot, look at this tit. Oh, in Itoza and all this, but still be the biggest fucking, still sell all the records, still be the biggest live act.

• 30:06Speaker 03

  Even though the media is telling everyone, don't be into Robbie Williams, you shouldn't be into him, but still be on top.

• 30:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:14Speaker 03

  Reach levels that no, that people could only dream of.

• 30:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:18Speaker 03

  Fucking amazing.

• 30:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:19Speaker 03

  Absolutely incredible.

• 30:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:21Speaker 05

  I've got a fact about Robbie Williams actually, um, which I've just double checked.

• 30:25Speaker 03

  He beat um Oasis's Nebworth uh record.

• 30:29Speaker 05

  He also.

• 30:29Speaker 03

  That's true.

• 30:30Speaker 05

  He also has the record for the most expensive record deal in British.

• 30:33Speaker 03

  Eighty million.

• 30:34Speaker 05

  Music history, yeah, and and some say it could be even higher than that.

• 30:38Speaker 03

  Even higher, yeah, then we got Rude Box, yeah.

• 30:41Speaker 05

  I, I love, I do, I do kind of love Rude Box.

• 30:43Speaker 03

  I think, uh, listen, I think in that stage of his career, he's well entitled to do a bit of Rude Box, he's allowed to go wherever he wants, he's, he's proved himself.

• 30:51Speaker 04

  I suppose at least he was, he was genuinely trying to do something that had been done before.

• 30:55Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 30:55Speaker 04

  Um, it didn't really work, but he, he tried, like it was, he is.

• 31:00Speaker 05

  I enjoy Rude Box.

• 31:01Speaker 04

  Well, lots of, lots of. I would, I would say.

• 31:05Speaker 05

  I think it started, I think it started ironically and now there's a genuine love there. I don't agree with all the lyrics, but I think it's, I think it's.

• 31:12Speaker 03

  It's one of the lyrics, if you rude box me, then I'll rude box all your family too, or something like that.

• 31:18Speaker 05

  It's essentially one of those lines. Robbie Williams is also from, near where I'm from as well.

• 31:21Speaker 03

  But he can, he can have as many blips as he wants, that boy. Cause he's done what he's done.

• 31:26Speaker 05

  Have you seen his?

• 31:27Speaker 03

  And no one can take that away from him.

• 31:28Speaker 05

  Seen his artwork that he's doing now?

• 31:29Speaker 03

  No, I've not. Again.

• 31:32Speaker 05

  Into physical art now?

• 31:32Speaker 03

  Oh, it is, is it? But again, he can do whatever he wants, as far as I'm concerned. Escapology is a really great album. Fact. There's no filler in it. Every song's brilliant. There you go. And I hope, I hope he tells himself that every once in a while. Cause I feel, I don't know. I feel it's a bravado. I think deep down, he um, needs someone every now and again to go, you're doing alright Robbie.

• 32:02Speaker 04

  My favourite line in that documentary, where he's where he said, I wanted to write Karma Police, but actually I'd written Karma Chameleon.

• 32:08Speaker 03

  Right.

• 32:08Speaker 04

  And that's, A, that's funny.

• 32:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:11Speaker 04

  But B, many people, like I, I'm a big George Orwell fan and George Orwell always wanted to be a novelist and he wanted to be like James Joyce and he wanted to write Dubliners. And his novels are quite shit, to be honest.

• 32:22Speaker 03

  Right.

• 32:23Speaker 04

  Uh, but he's this fantastic journalist, like probably the best journalist of the 20th century. And he didn't really value it. He was like, I wanna do that. I wanna, yeah, alright, there's another one. Fine. There you go. I'm trying to write a novel. Fine. There's another one. Leave me alone. And I mean, Animal Farm and, and 1984, I don't include them. They're not really novels, I don't think.

• 32:40Speaker 03

  Robbie Williams, legend. Robbie, if you're listening, I really like you.

• 32:44Speaker 04

  Can you chill out Robbie?

• 32:45Speaker 03

  I really like you. Can we do something together? Um.

• 32:48Speaker 04

  Do you wanna be on a fat based podcast?

• 32:49Speaker 03

  Do you wanna be on a fat based podcast? Imagine that. We don't have guests. I'd have fucking Robbie Williams on in a heartbeat.

• 32:55Speaker 05

  Trying to, trying to address him just real quick, quick bit.

• 32:57Speaker 03

  And I'd give him a hug as well. I'd say, you're.

• 32:59Speaker 04

  Robbie, you can wear whatever you want, your pants, whatever. It's fine.

• 33:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, do it in your, do it in your, oh, if you could wear the little pants with the lion on the front.

• 33:06Speaker 04

  Particularly those, yeah.

• 33:07Speaker 03

  That'd be great.

• 33:08Speaker 04

  Or just send some pictures of you in the pants. That's fine as well. Just.

• 33:12Speaker 03

  Oh, don't be, don't, you're joking. And even that, that music video got me asking questions about myself as a young man.

• 33:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 33:19Speaker 03

  I remember when that music video used to be on the box or MTV or stuff back in the day, they used to have to cut it before the end of the song. Because there's a bit where he ends up, because he strips, he starts, he strips all his clothes off, he ends up in his pants, and then the logical conclusion.

• 33:36Speaker 04

  I know, don't talk to me about logical conclusions.

• 33:38Speaker 03

  Is then, then he starts taking his skin off.

• 33:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 33:41Speaker 03

  And then he's a skeleton. That stuff was apparently too much.

• 33:44Speaker 05

  I couldn't watch it. I found it too much.

• 33:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 33:48Speaker 04

  I didn't even know that. I thought you were.

• 33:49Speaker 03

  It was edited.

• 33:51Speaker 04

  I thought you were doing like that guy in the 30s, where it was like, my girl's logical conclusion.

• 33:55Speaker 03

  No, no, no. That is what is, that is what happens in the unedited music video. He rips his skin off and stuff like.

• 34:04Speaker 04

  He is quite bonkers, isn't he? I mean, that's like, I say it goes from sort of sexy, to just like genuinely weird and quite disgusting.

• 34:10Speaker 03

  Absolutely, yeah. I think he's an artist. I really think he is like, if you, you know, the definition of the word artist, he is it. Say what you like about him. But let's get, let's, oh, is it my fact? Is that what we're supposed to be doing right now?

• 34:26Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 34:26Speaker 03

  Um, it is my fact, Joe. So today is the anniversary of Anne Boleyn's death. Um, 19th of May, 1539. So we've been asked to bring in some Boleyn facts. Could have gone any.

• 34:39Speaker 05

  It's actually, sorry, that's 1539 and that's my fault because the wrong number was in the script and I just wanted to let you know.

• 34:45Speaker 03

  No, it does say 39. I'm 36.

• 34:48Speaker 05

  I, I tagged it.

• 34:49Speaker 03

  Oh, okay. It's 36, 1536.

• 34:51Speaker 04

  19.

• 34:51Speaker 03

  You should have jumped in. You've got a degree from Cambridge in history. You should have.

• 34:54Speaker 04

  I didn't know. I mean, I would have, if you'd have got the century wrong, I would have, I would have known. But, but like, no, I don't know whether it's 36 or 39.

• 35:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, 1536.

• 35:01Speaker 03

  1536. Um, so here's my Anne Boleyn fact for you. Um, she basically invented the Tudor version of Leave Him On Reed.

• 35:14Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 35:15Speaker 03

  Leave him on, leave him on red.

• 35:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 35:18Speaker 03

  Uh, with Henry the eighth.

• 35:19Speaker 04

  This is a kind of WhatsApp device.

• 35:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. You get the, you get the two blue ticks and you go, well, you've read it. Why aren't you getting back to me?

• 35:27Speaker 04

  Okay, I see, okay.

• 35:29Speaker 03

  Um, at a time when most women at court would have been thrilled to catch the king's attention. Um, cause he was a handsome son of the gun, son of a gun back in, back in the day. Yeah. Strapping man.

• 35:42Speaker 04

  Pete, of course.

• 35:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, Pete's more late, late Henry.

• 35:47Speaker 04

  No, no, Pete's, Pete's young Henry. No, he's not. Don't, he's not late Henry. You'd never say that. Never, never go late Henry.

• 35:55Speaker 03

  Anne did the, uh, so when, when a lot of young women would have liked to have had a bit of, uh, a bit of a rock and roll with, uh, with a young Henry there.

• 36:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:05Speaker 03

  Um, Anne did the opposite. She refused to become his mistress and kept dodging his advances. Instead of giving him, giving in, giving him.

• 36:15Speaker 04

  Giving, yeah, yeah.

• 36:16Speaker 03

  Um, she made him wait and wait and wait. Turns out it worked too well. Henry got so obsessed that he ended up dumping his first wife, uh, breaking away from the Catholic Church and creating the Church of England.

• 36:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean.

• 36:32Speaker 03

  All because she wouldn't fucking just put her out a little bit. Come on, love. What do I need to do here?

• 36:37Speaker 04

  It is, it is kind of.

• 36:39Speaker 03

  She made him work for it in a way that no woman has ever made a man work for it before.

• 36:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:44Speaker 03

  Um.

• 36:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, he basically, yes, he had to create.

• 36:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:47Speaker 04

  A separate religion.

• 36:48Speaker 03

  Well, he chased the, he changed the course of history.

• 36:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:52Speaker 03

  Uh, and there's still to this day, some long ramifications from, from that whole debacle. Um, but he did all that over a bird.

• 37:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:04Speaker 03

  Imagine that. So in a very real sense, Anne Boleyn didn't just play hard to get, she triggered a national religious breakup. Because she basically wouldn't text back the sort of 16th century edition. So there we go. Hey, Joe.

• 37:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:19Speaker 03

  Um, it's time for fact check.

• 37:21Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 37:22Speaker 03

  Um, this is where we'll be reading a fact or a question that you'd like us to get to the bottom of. And then we're going to have a good old think during the ad break there and we'll come back and let you know how true it feels to us. Um, to decide whether it passes our fact check.

• 37:36Speaker 04

  Yes, absolutely.

• 37:37Speaker 03

  This week's fact checked comes from Georgia, who has sent us a WhatsApp. Oh, is there a voice note?

• 37:43Speaker 05

  It's a voice note.

• 37:44Speaker 03

  All right, great.

• 37:45Speaker 05

  I've got it ready.

• 37:46Speaker 07

  Hello, Jo and James and creamily may. My fact for you guys, me and my fiancee, Callum, got married in November 2026. And that is where the inspiration of this comes from. I would like to know where the idea that burying a sausage the night before brings good weather and if the sausage should be cooked or left raw. If you guys decree it's a fact, then I shall do it. I will send photos as proof on November 3. And a cheeky bonus, we absolutely love the inbetweeners and have featured iconic quotes from it as our table names. So we're open to suggestions if you guys have any. Thanks so much. This has been Georgia.

• 38:27Speaker 03

  Right, let's have a quick little. Pretty good. Yeah. So table names for the. Oh, hang on. Let's have a quick little break and then we're going to jump on this. All right.

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• 39:52Speaker 03

  Right, let's get straight back into it. So, first of all, table names. Bus wankers.

• 39:57Speaker 04

  Only in her vagina.

• 40:00Speaker 03

  Only in her vagina.

• 40:01Speaker 04

  That's a good one, right?

• 40:02Speaker 03

  Yeah. Bus wankers, only in her vagina. What else we got?

• 40:06Speaker 04

  Probably at the arse. That's the reference to the queen.

• 40:10Speaker 03

  Parents, parents have to turn up to this sort of stuff.

• 40:13Speaker 04

  Alright, alright, so, um, well, let's do some clean ones.

• 40:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think bus wankers slips in.

• 40:19Speaker 04

  Bus wankers is fine.

• 40:20Speaker 03

  Friends.

• 40:21Speaker 04

  Friends, yeah.

• 40:22Speaker 03

  Although I don't know if I'd, yeah, friends, yeah, that's fine, isn't it?

• 40:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:27Speaker 03

  So you've got your bus wankers, you've got your friends.

• 40:29Speaker 04

  Um, Pussy Patrol, is that?

• 40:31Speaker 03

  The Pussy Patrol table.

• 40:33Speaker 04

  That'll be alright, won't it?

• 40:34Speaker 03

  If you spell it P U S S A Y.

• 40:36Speaker 04

  It's not as well, we'll get over it, yeah.

• 40:37Speaker 03

  I've got a problem with the word pussy. I'm not, I'm not a big, sort of, I am who I am. I do, I feel it's quite misogynistic, the word pussy. I think there's something, do you know what I mean? I'm not comfortable with that word. And I do have to do those cameos a lot. So I do say Pussy.

• 40:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:58Speaker 03

  I don't like saying the word pussy.

• 41:00Speaker 05

  Takes the curse off it.

• 41:01Speaker 03

  But, but that's what it was. It was P U S S.

• 41:04Speaker 04

  Pussy Patrol.

• 41:04Speaker 03

  Pussy Patrol.

• 41:05Speaker 04

  Yeah. Uh, Bebebeep beep, maybe, is that?

• 41:11Speaker 03

  Yeah. Bebebeep beep.

• 41:12Speaker 04

  Bebebeep beep beep.

• 41:13Speaker 03

  You're on the beep. I feel like that'd be annoying to direct people to that table, to be honest with you.

• 41:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. We, yeah, I mean.

• 41:21Speaker 03

  Depends, I mean, it's not up to, it's not up to Georgia. I mean, it's her fucking day. She can do whatever she wants. Everyone's got to get on board with it. That's the point of the.

• 41:30Speaker 04

  And we're gonna get on to that sausage thing in a minute, because.

• 41:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was nonsense.

• 41:34Speaker 04

  Fucking mental, what that was.

• 41:36Speaker 03

  I don't ever know.

• 41:36Speaker 04

  Never ever heard of.

• 41:38Speaker 03

  I don't know how to unwrap that one. The other stuff that you said was, I could deal with.

• 41:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:44Speaker 05

  You have the feisty ones?

• 41:45Speaker 03

  The feisty ones.

• 41:47Speaker 04

  The feisty ones, yes.

• 41:48Speaker 03

  The feisty ones.

• 41:50Speaker 05

  Cornetto liquors?

• 41:51Speaker 03

  Cornetto liquors, brilliant.

• 41:53Speaker 04

  That's good.

• 41:54Speaker 03

  Brilliant.

• 41:56Speaker 04

  Um.

• 41:57Speaker 03

  You could have a table just called Swansea.

• 42:00Speaker 04

  No.

• 42:01Speaker 03

  The field trip, uh, no Swansea, no, that's what, that's the um shit down her arm episode, right?

• 42:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:07Speaker 03

  Swansea.

• 42:08Speaker 05

  Caravan campus, caravan club.

• 42:11Speaker 04

  Caravan club.

• 42:11Speaker 03

  Caravan club.

• 42:12Speaker 04

  I just caravan club.

• 42:13Speaker 03

  Caravan club, of course. What was the school called? Did we have a, did we have a?

• 42:17Speaker 04

  Well, it was called Rudge Park, wasn't it?

• 42:19Speaker 03

  Was it called Rudge Park?

• 42:20Speaker 04

  Park is the name of the secondary school.

• 42:21Speaker 03

  Course it was, yeah. No.

• 42:24Speaker 04

  Where we actually filmed.

• 42:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was called, yeah, it was Rice, Rice Slip High.

• 42:29Speaker 04

  High.

• 42:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 42:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:30Speaker 03

  That's just Rudge Park to me.

• 42:32Speaker 04

  And also it was quite funny because we filmed there for series one and then they wouldn't let us back to film for series two.

• 42:38Speaker 03

  Is that right?

• 42:39Speaker 04

  Apparently, yeah.

• 42:39Speaker 03

  I feel like we did the second series there.

• 42:42Speaker 04

  Maybe they just.

• 42:43Speaker 03

  And then the third series, we then had to go to a, a disused army barracks.

• 42:48Speaker 04

  There was definitely one thing where we weren't allowed to film.

• 42:51Speaker 03

  Well, there was, yeah, yeah.

• 42:53Speaker 04

  We couldn't get the school.

• 42:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, I think because when we start, when we started filming there, it was a brand new school.

• 42:58Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 42:59Speaker 03

  And they were, they were grandfathering in the, the, the um, the years. So half the school was pretty much empty.

• 43:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:06Speaker 03

  I think they only had up to year nine or something like that in the school. So the rest of the school was, was completely empty for us to. We could, we, and we did, we made a whole TV show whilst the school was working and all those kids were still there and things like that.

• 43:20Speaker 04

  I mean, it's amazing for a school to have, like, my school was absolutely stuffed to the gills. There was no space. Like, kids were everywhere. There was like demountable classrooms outside. It was just like you couldn't, there was no, there would be no space.

• 43:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, we had hundreds of kids.

• 43:31Speaker 04

  You wouldn't, you wouldn't, there wouldn't have been like a room. They couldn't have given, so to have, be able to, yeah, to be able to make a TV show.

• 43:37Speaker 03

  Um, but we did, we did then end up building the common room in a, in a, uh, an, a disused army barracks.

• 43:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, we did.

• 43:47Speaker 03

  And it was, there was no heating and it was freezing. And again, it was a theme throughout the in between. It was always fucking cold.

• 43:55Speaker 04

  Always freezing.

• 43:56Speaker 03

  Always fucking cold.

• 43:57Speaker 04

  I think there's a thing with comedy where like, you're generally not that clothed. I felt like there's, you don't have.

• 44:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's nothing funny about clothes, is there?

• 44:04Speaker 04

  No, usually if you want, yeah.

• 44:06Speaker 03

  If you want some gags.

• 44:07Speaker 04

  When I did the festival, I'd go in, I know it's not the in betweeners, but it was Ian directing it.

• 44:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:11Speaker 04

  Like, I'd go in day after day and the only thing on my costume rail.

• 44:14Speaker 03

  He's obsessed with you being naked, isn't he?

• 44:16Speaker 04

  The only thing on my costume rail was this pair of pink pants and I'm like, oh, for fuck's sake.

• 44:21Speaker 03

  He is obsessed.

• 44:21Speaker 04

  Again.

• 44:22Speaker 03

  Blake, Blake walking around in these speedos. They're just, do you know what, man? The more I think about those two boys.

• 44:29Speaker 04

  They're just interested in young men.

• 44:30Speaker 03

  The more I think about.

• 44:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:32Speaker 03

  Morrison Beasley.

• 44:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:33Speaker 03

  I think they just wanted to see our bums.

• 44:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, just want to see our bums, right? Got great bums. What can I say?

• 44:39Speaker 03

  Well, speak for yourself, Joe. Your mum's great, as we've, as we've already discovered.

• 44:47Speaker 04

  Right, we better get back to this, um.

• 44:48Speaker 03

  Oh, the sausage thing.

• 44:50Speaker 04

  The sausage thing.

• 44:50Speaker 03

  The sausage thing, that sounded insane. I've never heard of anything like that.

• 44:53Speaker 05

  You've not heard this before?

• 44:54Speaker 04

  I've never even heard of it. What, you bury, you bury a sausage and it's supposed to?

• 44:57Speaker 05

  So it's about burying a sausage the day before your wedding to ensure you get nice weather.

• 45:02Speaker 03

  So you get good weather, yeah, obviously that's nonsense.

• 45:05Speaker 04

  Where does that come from? I can't even, where to say, that was a question, that was, that was a question, where is the tradition?

• 45:09Speaker 05

  That is a question.

• 45:10Speaker 03

  It comes from the Middle Ages. It comes from fucking.

• 45:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 45:14Speaker 03

  Do you know what I mean? If you rub a crow shit on your head, you'll stop being bald. It comes from that sort of nonsense. Listen, I would say this, do it, because it sounds like a bit of fun and a great tradition. Um, also, it might be a euphemism.

• 45:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 45:32Speaker 03

  You know, burying the old sausage.

• 45:33Speaker 04

  Going in, in the ground?

• 45:35Speaker 03

  Around, around your nuptials.

• 45:41Speaker 03

  That was, uh, unbelievable.

• 45:45Speaker 03

  But, uh, for want of a better word, uh, but, uh, I, there's nothing, there's nothing there that screams to me that there is any kind of way that burying a sausage, cooked or uncooked.

• 45:57Speaker 04

  No, no, but I don't, I don't think we're being asked that. We're, we're being asked, we're, we're being asked, where does it come from?

• 46:03Speaker 03

  No, I thought she said.

• 46:04Speaker 04

  No, where does it come?

• 46:05Speaker 03

  Oh, she's saying where did it come from?

• 46:07Speaker 04

  Where does it come from?

• 46:07Speaker 03

  Oh, I don't, I've got no idea.

• 46:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:09Speaker 03

  I, I thought she said, and I thought she said, is it true?

• 46:12Speaker 05

  Well, I think, I think she would like both of the answers.

• 46:14Speaker 03

  And should we put a cooked or uncooked?

• 46:16Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 46:16Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 46:16Speaker 03

  I thought that was what we were trying to get to the bottom of.

• 46:18Speaker 05

  She does want to know if it's cooked or uncooked, yeah. I think she, I think she wants as much information as possible.

• 46:23Speaker 03

  Well.

• 46:23Speaker 05

  I'd love to hear your theories.

• 46:24Speaker 03

  I've never heard, I've never heard this before in my life at all. I really haven't.

• 46:30Speaker 05

  Can you reverse engineer some sort of logic to make it feel right?

• 46:33Speaker 03

  I can't go, I can't get, my brain's not going anywhere with that. It, it's, there's no, there, I mean, there is definitely no connection between burying a sausage to the weather.

• 46:46Speaker 03

  There's no way that you can decide on the weather by burying a sausage. That's just. That's all that there is there. That's, that's the end of that discussion. However, I would say it sounds like a fun thing to do. And that they should both do it because it sounds like a laugh and they'll remember doing it. And um. Whether or not it, it, it, it has any bearing on the weather is, is. It is, I don't think it matters.

• 47:16Speaker 04

  I am.

• 47:17Speaker 03

  I think it just sounds like a fun story and a good tradition to, to um, to do. I would say do it basically is what I'm saying.

• 47:25Speaker 04

  I'm thinking the.

• 47:26Speaker 03

  And if it works, it works. There you go. What do I know?

• 47:29Speaker 04

  Well, it's a, I mean, it's a kind of, it feels like sort of. It's like a small offering to the gods, right? That's what it feels like. It feels like it's a small offering of food. Have a sausage. So I would say cook it. Because I think if I was a god, I'd want it, I'd want it cooked. I suppose if I was a god, I, I could probably cook it.

• 47:47Speaker 03

  If you really wanted to, if you really wanted to, yeah, if it's that sort of thing. And you're uh, and it's a superstition and you, you want the marriage to go well or whatnot. Or, or the weather to be good. I don't know. Um, stick it in a bun as well.

• 48:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:04Speaker 03

  Give it, give them a hot dog.

• 48:05Speaker 05

  And a mustard.

• 48:07Speaker 04

  Maybe some onions.

• 48:08Speaker 05

  Crispy onions, yeah.

• 48:09Speaker 04

  Okay. So this, yeah, so now, yeah, this is, this is, this is better.

• 48:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:14Speaker 05

  More nice.

• 48:15Speaker 04

  Um.

• 48:16Speaker 03

  And if you do do it, can you take a picture and send it to us, please? Before you bury it? Because we'd like to see that.

• 48:22Speaker 05

  Absolutely.

• 48:23Speaker 04

  Um, yeah, I'd like to see it. But yeah, I, I would say, yeah.

• 48:25Speaker 03

  Again, not a euphemism. We don't want to see pictures of that.

• 48:29Speaker 04

  No, no, we want pictures of Robbie Williams.

• 48:31Speaker 03

  Well, I do, but can, can I give my personal number out just for that?

• 48:35Speaker 05

  I wouldn't advise it.

• 48:36Speaker 03

  Okay, all right.

• 48:37Speaker 05

  I wouldn't advise it.

• 48:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, so I would say, yeah, I'd say cook it.

• 48:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:44Speaker 04

  Little line of ketchup.

• 48:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, stick it in a little um, a little, a little finger roll.

• 48:49Speaker 04

  Pop it in a, yeah. Unbelievable.

• 48:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, a little uh, they are called finger rolls, aren't they?

• 48:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:00Speaker 04

  Why would it, why would it make, you know what, some, I reckon the root of these traditions is probably that maybe once upon a time, someone lost a load of meat or sausages, like they fell down a, you know, things, you know how things fall down ravines?

• 49:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:17Speaker 04

  Right? Whoops, they're in a wheelbarrow, a big wheelbarrow of sausages, oh god, it's all falling down a ravine. It's a disaster, but the next day, the sun's out, so people go, make the best of it. A bit like, I think sometimes superstition is a bit like, if something bad happens.

• 49:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:34Speaker 04

  But people go, oh, well, something good might happen instead. So you say, it's actually, so actually, it's good to, um, to break a mug or something, you know, like on a wedding, you break them, I think it's a, I would say, Lily May, it's something to do with it not being, uh, perfect. I think, well, you know how the French have that phrase, good is the enemy of perfect, or perfect is the enemy of good. So in order, there's a lot of pressure on a wedding day for it to be perfect. So I think do something so it's kind of already fucked, like, so you do something where it's already a mess, so maybe like.

• 50:06Speaker 03

  Break the seal a little bit.

• 50:07Speaker 04

  Break the seal, yeah, exactly. Have the groom put on odd socks or something.

• 50:10Speaker 03

  Right.

• 50:11Speaker 04

  Do you know what I mean? Like, um, uh, have, um.

• 50:14Speaker 03

  This all makes, this all makes more sense than the sausage, than burying a sausage to me.

• 50:18Speaker 04

  Well, the odd socks thing's fine as well.

• 50:19Speaker 03

  But I know, I know what you were saying, I think it's coincidental.

• 50:22Speaker 04

  It's coincidental, I think it probably happened once.

• 50:24Speaker 03

  I think a sausage got buried once.

• 50:26Speaker 04

  A sausage got buried, it could happen to anyone. A sausage gets buried.

• 50:28Speaker 03

  You say that, like, back in the day, they had to ban, and, and they had to sort of, and livestock and stuff, like, in London and cities and stuff like that. Cause the place fucking stinks so much.

• 50:40Speaker 04

  They, they got buried.

• 50:41Speaker 03

  You'd have to, um, you'd have to travel stuff in, you'd have to butcher outside of the city and bring, uh, the, the meat in to sell.

• 50:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:52Speaker 03

  Um.

• 50:52Speaker 04

  You, you would, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you, so you bring it in.

• 50:55Speaker 03

  You might lose a sausage. It might get buried, next day.

• 50:59Speaker 04

  Where is it? Well, they'll find it now.

• 51:00Speaker 03

  No, but you go, oh, fucking hell.

• 51:02Speaker 04

  But at least the sun's out.

• 51:03Speaker 03

  Yeah. I don't, I think it's coincidental. I don't think, I've ne, I've honestly never heard that before. Have you heard that, Katie? No.

• 51:10Speaker 04

  No. I, I think it's something to do with not making, not making the day perfect, or it's to do with, you know, the, the rain god likes sausage, so give, it's either an offering, it's either, but enough, but enough about their personal life. Um, but, um.

• 51:29Speaker 04

  But um, that could be their vows. Rain god like sausage.

• 51:33Speaker 03

  Rain god like sausage.

• 51:35Speaker 04

  And then she can say me got, me got sausage.

• 51:39Speaker 04

  And then he can say sun's out, guns out. And then, and then just do that and, and, and you're away. But um.

• 51:46Speaker 05

  And to be fair, if they use buns, sun's out, buns out.

• 51:49Speaker 04

  Sun's out, buns out. Sun's out, buns out, into the ground, sausage in, sun's out. So there you go.

• 51:54Speaker 03

  Makes sense.

• 51:55Speaker 04

  That's how it is. Mazel tov to all and sundry. Well done. And uh, god, god bless them.

• 52:01Speaker 03

  God bless them. What um, I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna say it's not fact, Joe.

• 52:06Speaker 04

  It's not a fact, but where does it come from? It, I think we're saying either, it's either some, it's either a kind of offering to, to show that you're giving a little bit of the food. Maybe you'd bury a bit of food so the harvest would be good the next year. You know, the pig harvest, the, you know, the big day where you, you know, the pigs have grown enough and.

• 52:24Speaker 03

  I guess so. Shall we throw, throw it over to the queen? Shall we get the queen's consent?

• 52:27Speaker 04

  Any may, why is it?

• 52:28Speaker 03

  I'm saying not fact.

• 52:29Speaker 04

  Why is it?

• 52:30Speaker 05

  Okay, so um, what I will say is.

• 52:32Speaker 03

  You seem to understand this.

• 52:34Speaker 04

  You seem to have had, you've known the answer for ages. Just because you've got your laptop.

• 52:38Speaker 03

  You was just saying, have you not heard that before?

• 52:40Speaker 05

  Yes, so I became aware of this last year because my friend got married and they did this. And that was the first time I had heard of this.

• 52:46Speaker 04

  Maybe that started it. So you're saying that's what started it?

• 52:50Speaker 03

  That was the weather like?

• 52:51Speaker 05

  Um, and it was nice. However, what I will say is there was rain, but for the actual ceremony itself, it was sunny and they were getting married outside as well. So.

• 53:00Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 53:00Speaker 03

  That is a bit spooky.

• 53:01Speaker 05

  It is a bit spooky. But what I will say is towards the end of the ceremony, it did start to rain again.

• 53:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, the ceremony is done. The, the, the sausage has completed its obligation.

• 53:10Speaker 04

  That's, I mean, it's, I would say if that, that is a completely watertight explanation of.

• 53:15Speaker 05

  I think maybe they.

• 53:16Speaker 04

  There's no way the sausage didn't work based on that. It rained twice, sunny once. There's no, there's absolutely no way that that's what she didn't work.

• 53:22Speaker 05

  I wonder whether it was a chipolata and not a full sausage.

• 53:25Speaker 04

  It might be that. Was it, or, or yeah, maybe it was a, I mean, can you use a vegan sausage?

• 53:28Speaker 03

  Depends. We, we spoke about this. It depends what the, the, the temperature was.

• 53:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 53:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 53:33Speaker 03

  Like I say, these things can.

• 53:34Speaker 05

  Exactly. And it was chilly the night before.

• 53:36Speaker 04

  I do say.

• 53:36Speaker 03

  One day you got a sausage. The next

• 53:39Speaker 05

  Cocktail sausage.

• 53:40Speaker 03

  Chippala there going on and you're thinking, what's going on here? Guy, help me out.

• 53:44Speaker 05

  Happens to the best of us. Um, so there was not an awful lot of, I would say, research on this, as you may be surprised to hear.

• 53:52Speaker 04

  No.

• 53:52Speaker 05

  Um, but it's believed to kind of come from folklore and has got more popularity recently due to like online trends. So I think someone has made it popular online, basically, and it's had a bit of a resurgence in terms of

• 54:03Speaker 03

  I think I'd do it. I think if I was to get married now that I've heard that, I think it sounds like a laugh. It sounds like a fun thing to do.

• 54:09Speaker 05

  Mm hmm.

• 54:10Speaker 03

  The day before the wedding. It sounds like fun.

• 54:12Speaker 05

  Exactly. So there's a couple of things, um, that people have, um, pondered on whether the roots are. One of them is that it is a offering to the weather gods.

• 54:23Speaker 03

  Right.

• 54:24Speaker 05

  Um, but what I will say is, um, the tradition also is rooted in raw sausages rather than cooked. So it's suggested here that they are raw.

• 54:32Speaker 03

  Okay, so we'll say, don't cook it then. Don't do everything that we said.

• 54:35Speaker 05

  And also it doesn't just have to be one sausage. Apparently you can put a whole pack in there.

• 54:40Speaker 03

  Whole packet. Okay.

• 54:42Speaker 05

  Is what has been said. There's also

• 54:44Speaker 03

  Do they have packets of sausages?

• 54:46Speaker 05

  Well, a whole, a whole, a whole string.

• 54:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, full string. Um, there's also some research online to say it has origins in German speaking regions, uh, such as Austria and Bavaria and it's a staple of

• 55:00Speaker 03

  Germanic.

• 55:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's Germanic and it's cultural and religious. Sausages are symbols of prosperity, festivity and fertility. And tied closely to weddings.

• 55:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:12Speaker 05

  So burying a sausage became associated with warding off rain and inviting sunshine, turning a food item into a superstition.

• 55:20Speaker 03

  That's good, isn't it?

• 55:21Speaker 04

  Yeah. So should, should we, should we sum it up? So we're saying, um, it's probably

• 55:27Speaker 03

  I'm saying, I'll sum it up for you. You ready, Joe?

• 55:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:30Speaker 03

  It's bollocks.

• 55:33Speaker 03

  It's a lot of old bollocks, but it might be a fun thing for you two to do before the, before the day of your wedding. Do it in the evening before your wedding.

• 55:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:42Speaker 03

  And uh, who knows, the weather might be good and then you can go, you let us know how the weather turns out.

• 55:48Speaker 05

  November, November as well, November weather, you need it.

• 55:51Speaker 03

  The odds that, uh, when was I married? I was married in November.

• 55:54Speaker 04

  If it's a November wedding.

• 55:56Speaker 03

  In Scotland.

• 55:56Speaker 04

  And, and it doesn't rain.

• 55:57Speaker 05

  Weather nice?

• 55:58Speaker 03

  It was clear. There was no rain. Not like I remember. Maybe there was actually. I genuinely can't remember at all.

• 56:06Speaker 04

  If it's in, if it's in the north of England in November and it doesn't rain, then we will say.

• 56:12Speaker 03

  I'll start.

• 56:13Speaker 04

  It's fucked up.

• 56:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. In fact, this is an opportunity. You guys do it. You got, well, you, you can, you can be the verbatim.

• 56:22Speaker 04

  We're saying there's no research being done on it.

• 56:24Speaker 03

  Bury your sausage.

• 56:24Speaker 04

  This is the research.

• 56:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's no, um.

• 56:26Speaker 04

  I'd apply for some funding somewhere, honestly, like you.

• 56:29Speaker 03

  There's no, uh.

• 56:30Speaker 04

  Shouldn't have to pay for the sausage.

• 56:31Speaker 03

  And also just, just follow the science.

• 56:34Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 56:34Speaker 03

  So we can find out. Maybe.

• 56:37Speaker 04

  We're just trying to follow the science.

• 56:39Speaker 03

  Because we could go, um, could say they bury their sausage and it, and it's a sunny day the next day. We can come back and go, it does work. That's fact.

• 56:49Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 56:50Speaker 03

  We can, we can agree on that. So if we buried the sausage and it rains the next day, not only did we say, oh, it's not fact. We can say, if you bury a sausage, it will rain.

• 57:01Speaker 05

  Great.

• 57:01Speaker 03

  We can go the other way. This will be, this will finally.

• 57:04Speaker 04

  We'll know one way or the other.

• 57:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:06Speaker 04

  Basically.

• 57:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 57:07Speaker 03

  So let's.

• 57:07Speaker 04

  The sausage does something.

• 57:08Speaker 03

  We've got, we've got to wait.

• 57:09Speaker 04

  The sausage definitely does, it definitely doesn't do nothing.

• 57:12Speaker 03

  Uh, it's gonna do something.

• 57:13Speaker 04

  It does something.

• 57:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:15Speaker 04

  Everybody knows the sausage does something.

• 57:18Speaker 03

  You can't bury a sausage in the ground. I think there aren't gonna be repercussions.

• 57:21Speaker 04

  Exactly. Jesus Christ.

• 57:24Speaker 03

  You're gonna pay for it one way or the other.

• 57:25Speaker 04

  You're playing God.

• 57:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:26Speaker 04

  I mean, you shouldn't, it's, it's fucked up.

• 57:29Speaker 03

  Well, that's what I'm saying. These guys could do it for us. They're professionals, obviously.

• 57:33Speaker 04

  Wear gloves, wear an eye mask.

• 57:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:35Speaker 04

  But get it buried.

• 57:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, wear goggles.

• 57:37Speaker 04

  For heaven's sake, just, um, keep it legal and be safe.

• 57:45Speaker 03

  So Joe, it is, it's, it's the time, we can't put it off anymore. It's for your fact, we're, we're talking about Anne Boleyn.

• 57:54Speaker 04

  We are, we're talking about the anniversary of Anne Boleyn's death. And you spoke earlier about how she, because she was quite resistant to Henry's wooing. He probably thought he'd just get whatever he wanted because he was king. And actually, she-

• 58:14Speaker 03

  She went, uh, uh, uh.

• 58:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, and actually that-

• 58:17Speaker 03

  She went, I don't want no scrubs.

• 58:18Speaker 04

  She did, yeah, she, yeah, she literally said-

• 58:21Speaker 03

  And he went, fine, I'll show you.

• 58:22Speaker 04

  She said, I'll show you. And so to some extent, it, it, maybe there is probably, yeah, there is some truth in the idea that basically the Church of England emerged. Because kind of she-

• 58:33Speaker 03

  Because some bloke wanted to get his leg over.

• 58:35Speaker 04

  She, she wouldn't marry him, she wouldn't, she wouldn't, well, I mean, I suppose if we were being basic about it, she wouldn't have sex with him unless they were married. He couldn't marry her because he had this, because he was in a church that wouldn't let him marry her. So he said, fine, I'll do my own church. And it's quite extraordinary that the Church of England sort of came into existence as a result of that.

• 58:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:57Speaker 04

  But, anyway, let's-

• 59:03Speaker 03

  I would probably, I, I should, I should probably say that there was a big thing going on already.

• 59:11Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, no, there was already, yeah.

• 59:13Speaker 03

  About Protestants and stuff like that.

• 59:14Speaker 04

  There was, there was already like Luther, so you had-

• 59:16Speaker 03

  I've got, I've got to have my boys back, I've got to have Henry's back for a bit.

• 59:20Speaker 04

  Oh, no, yeah, no, it wasn't, no, there were, there were, there were, there was an alternative faith emerging and available. And basically, so the Catholic Church basically says-

• 59:28Speaker 03

  Who was that geezer that-

• 59:29Speaker 04

  Martin Luther, right? He basically thought about it for ages and ages and ages, and eventually he said-

• 59:33Speaker 03

  You see the bloke that pinned the thing to the church?

• 59:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, he did, although I think it was more like it was his university and he had to put it out there because it was just where you put out what you were going to lecture on. But essentially, yes.

• 59:42Speaker 03

  Wasn't it made into a book or something where he had an evening, a dinner party or something? And he was just, he was, apparently it's hilarious, and he was just properly slagging off the Pope and- Stuff like this. And it was so funny. It was like a fucking Jimmy Carr routine.

• 59:56Speaker 04

  It was a stand up DVD, basically, yeah.

• 59:58Speaker 03

  Uh, it was a special. It was Martin Luther's special.

• 1:00:00Speaker 04

  Well, he, he, he, he, basically, he came to the conclusion that he felt he had kind of communicated directly with God. And basically, the whole thing was like, you don't need all these other humans in between you and God. It's just like, he will just kind of. So you don't need the whole apparatus of the church. That's all, isn't necessary.

• 1:00:19Speaker 03

  It sort of makes sense a little bit.

• 1:00:22Speaker 04

  Well, many, many, many.

• 1:00:23Speaker 03

  Brought up a Catholic, right?

• 1:00:24Speaker 04

  Well, many people, many people thought so.

• 1:00:26Speaker 03

  Even, even when I was a kid, I was like, the pageantry and the, I liked it. I enjoyed it.

• 1:00:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:33Speaker 03

  I don't know how.

• 1:00:34Speaker 04

  But Luther was basically just like, no, it's just me and God. And then they were gonna, they were gonna execute him, but they didn't execute him in the end. And then he became, he basically became so famous that they sort of couldn't execute him.

• 1:00:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:44Speaker 04

  So yes, there was an alternative faith available, but I think there's, everything would suggest that Henry the Eighth was not at all interested in this alternative faith.

• 1:00:52Speaker 03

  I don't think that was his motive, no.

• 1:00:53Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 1:00:55Speaker 03

  I bet she was fucking foxy.

• 1:00:57Speaker 04

  She sounds like she was.

• 1:00:58Speaker 03

  So for a bloke to do all this.

• 1:01:01Speaker 04

  Quite a looker.

• 1:01:02Speaker 03

  I bet she was.

• 1:01:05Speaker 05

  She has a great attitude as well. Do you know what I mean?

• 1:01:08Speaker 03

  Attitude. I thought you were gonna say something else then.

• 1:01:14Speaker 04

  Um, yeah, no, she was, she was, and she like, no, fuck you.

• 1:01:17Speaker 03

  Of the hattitude.

• 1:01:18Speaker 04

  Yeah. Incredible negotiator. Absolutely unbelievable. She'd be such a good, like, football agent. She was like, no, not good enough.

• 1:01:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:01:25Speaker 04

  No, not good enough.

• 1:01:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:01:26Speaker 04

  We'll do something, we'll, we'll, we'll get another church.

• 1:01:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:01:29Speaker 04

  And he's like, oh, she said get another church. What does that mean? Can we do that? And then all these blokes were like.

• 1:01:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:01:34Speaker 04

  Well, we can, but, I mean, it's.

• 1:01:36Speaker 03

  Who was his guy? Cromwell, Thomas Cromwell?

• 1:01:39Speaker 04

  Initially, it was Cardinal Wolsey and then, uh, uh, he then, he then, um. Kind of fell out of favour and then Cromwell replaced him.

• 1:01:50Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:01:51Speaker 04

  The thing that Cromwell did.

• 1:01:52Speaker 03

  Oh, wasn't Cromwell up for it? Wasn't it Wolsey was like, no, you can't do that. And, and Cromwell was like, oh, I can see my way in here.

• 1:01:59Speaker 04

  Cromwell basically sorted out the Amberlin marriage.

• 1:02:03Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:02:03Speaker 04

  And then when Henry then moved on and got fed up.

• 1:02:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:02:08Speaker 04

  Um. And to be fair.

• 1:02:12Speaker 03

  I bet he felt like a right hit.

• 1:02:13Speaker 04

  I think in the end, well, if Hillary Mantell's books are any guide, and I think they maybe actually perhaps are, in the end Cromwell fell foul of the Bolins who were actually a very powerful French family and he engineered the, having helped Anne Boleyn into power, or yeah, I suppose it is power. He then helped engineer her destruction and then having done that, he basically made enemies for life in the Bolins. And then later on, when Henry had moved on yet again after Jane Seymour had died and he, Cromwell tried to arrange a marriage to somebody called Anne of Cleves, who basically Henry didn't think was pretty, essentially.

• 1:02:58Speaker 04

  And I think it's sent almost because of that, like Cromwell, and then he'd also, Cromwell was a low born man. So he didn't really have big alliances with the, the old English aristocracy, who are all Catholic, by the way, or, or the big families on the continent, like the, like the Bolins. So actually, once, he was a little bit like one of those guys in Trump's court where like all they've got is that Trump likes them. Like if he stops liking them, they're fucked, they're done. Like they, they, they need to leave town. Cromwell was a bit like that. Like once Henry had turned his back, again, this is just what Hillary Mantell says.

• 1:03:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:29Speaker 04

  Once Henry had got fed up with him, Cromwell was basically fucked.

• 1:03:33Speaker 03

  Done. Yeah, that was it. He only had one guy.

• 1:03:35Speaker 04

  He had one guy.

• 1:03:36Speaker 03

  See, listen, I love all this.

• 1:03:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:38Speaker 03

  I don't think.

• 1:03:38Speaker 04

  I better do my facts though.

• 1:03:40Speaker 03

  Anyone that, um, wants to listen to a podcast from Simon and Jay from the in betweeners, I appreciate that.

• 1:03:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:45Speaker 03

  But I fucking love all that, man. That's so good. Because it just humanizes stuff. When you're, when you're in.

• 1:03:50Speaker 04

  Well, those books are also, um, so good, like unbelievable. All the, all the Thomas Cromwell.

• 1:03:54Speaker 03

  When you're in primary school and you're learning about the Tudors and stuff, it can be really heavy.

• 1:03:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:59Speaker 03

  And it can be like, oh, he was just a king and whoever, whenever he got fed up, he was just like off with his head.

• 1:04:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, I know. It's just a confusing, it's just a confusing barrage of random facts.

• 1:04:09Speaker 03

  What's fascinating about that?

• 1:04:10Speaker 04

  Not like us.

• 1:04:10Speaker 03

  About all those, like all of, even the Tudors and all that and stuff, like, well, especially the Tudors, they, they came, they came into power because of, because of. They got, they contested their right to the throne or whatever. How precarious.

• 1:04:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, it really is.

• 1:04:29Speaker 03

  And how they had to walk a line constantly. Cause they, cause when you're growing up and you learn about old kings and queens, you're like, oh, well, they were just sort of like, oh, is, um, I, I am the next person to God. Is my right by God to be, so you can't argue with that.

• 1:04:43Speaker 04

  No, no one believed that. No one believed that.

• 1:04:46Speaker 03

  Everyone, there was like loads of powerful people that were just like, and

• 1:04:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:50Speaker 03

  very much like today.

• 1:04:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:52Speaker 03

  They'll be like, we'll have you in if you, if you, if you're, if, we'll have you in.

• 1:04:56Speaker 04

  Yeah. All the God stuff was added in afterwards. That was added in once you'd killed the other bloke and taken all his land.

• 1:05:01Speaker 03

  We'll vote for this president. We'll, we'll back this president because they're going to give us some tax relief and stuff like that. And it was the same with kings and queens.

• 1:05:10Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 1:05:10Speaker 03

  And they could be, and if they didn't fucking, if they took it too far.

• 1:05:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:05:15Speaker 03

  They would, they, they would go.

• 1:05:16Speaker 04

  That's it. They were. It was absolutely. Well, it reminds me of that thing. What is it? If you go for the king, you better not miss.

• 1:05:20Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:05:21Speaker 04

  Anyway, look, I better do my fact.

• 1:05:22Speaker 03

  Sorry, Joe. I could talk about that sort of nonsense forever.

• 1:05:25Speaker 04

  I would also just say anyway, I would recommend the, the, the various, the three books beginning with Wolf Hall.

• 1:05:31Speaker 03

  Can you text them to me?

• 1:05:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, they're fantastic. You bought one of them for me once, actually.

• 1:05:35Speaker 03

  Did I? I should fucking read it then.

• 1:05:36Speaker 04

  No, it was brilliant. I really appreciate it. I think you bought me the third one probably. Anyway, so now let's and bow in to my fact. So we're bowling in. So that's not my fact yet. So my fact is about, this, my fact is about, um, the bowling.

• 1:05:55Speaker 03

  Edit that out, please.

• 1:05:57Speaker 04

  No, that's all right.

• 1:05:59Speaker 05

  For me, it was like, ambele in.

• 1:06:01Speaker 04

  Oh, ambele, oh, ambele in.

• 1:06:03Speaker 03

  Oh, ambele.

• 1:06:04Speaker 04

  Oh, I see. Oh, so yes, so yes, because my version doesn't make any sense. Now, now let's and walk in to my fact.

• 1:06:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:10Speaker 04

  Right. Now let's ambele in to my fact.

• 1:06:12Speaker 05

  Does that make it any better?

• 1:06:13Speaker 04

  It does make it. It does.

• 1:06:14Speaker 03

  It was unbelievable.

• 1:06:15Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 1:06:16Speaker 03

  It was unbelievable.

• 1:06:17Speaker 04

  It was unbelievable.

• 1:06:18Speaker 05

  I don't think I'm the originator of that, but thank you.

• 1:06:21Speaker 04

  No, it's, it's, um, it's, it's fantastic. Um, so don't, you're, don't get your amp in court. Um, so the bowling ground.

• 1:06:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:32Speaker 04

  Was the home of West Ham United Football Club.

• 1:06:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:35Speaker 04

  Why is it called the bowling ground? Well, it's because there was.

• 1:06:41Speaker 04

  A house nearby known as Bowlin Castle.

• 1:06:45Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:06:46Speaker 04

  Although also known as Green Street House. So sort of.

• 1:06:50Speaker 03

  That's where the Green Street elite come from.

• 1:06:52Speaker 04

  That's right. And it was reported that Henry the Eighth had kind of wooed Amber in there, like she'd been staying there. And he'd gone there and tried to, uh, tried to woo her. So.

• 1:07:05Speaker 03

  And that's how we get to the Bowlin ground.

• 1:07:07Speaker 04

  That's how we get to the Bowlin ground. So, yeah.

• 1:07:10Speaker 03

  I'd, I'd, I'd always wondered that.

• 1:07:12Speaker 04

  Yeah. Well, there you go. So, I mean, I, I, I feel like it's probably one of those things where like, maybe she wasn't really there or maybe, I mean, there's so many pubs in this country called the Royal Oak. Cause they're like King Charles hid in an oak tree near here when he was on the run. And you're like, this guy must have done nothing but hide in oak trees because of the number of these pubs that there are. But to be fair, there aren't that many grounds called the Bowlin. Well, there aren't any now.

• 1:07:37Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no, there's none there. Yeah, unfortunately.

• 1:07:39Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:07:40Speaker 03

  I think there's many a West Ham fan that, that have, that, that loved, I always called it Upton Park.

• 1:07:47Speaker 04

  Upton Park, yeah. Um, it was a nice ground because it was really close to like, there was like a market. And then he was just sort of there, like it felt like a local ground.

• 1:07:56Speaker 03

  But it was, it was, um, it wasn't central London either.

• 1:07:59Speaker 04

  Played, played that one. Literally did a like five-a-side thing there once.

• 1:08:03Speaker 03

  You did?

• 1:08:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, like a soccer sixes or something. Yeah.

• 1:08:06Speaker 03

  Oh, brilliant.

• 1:08:06Speaker 04

  It was fun.

• 1:08:07Speaker 03

  All right. Well, thank you, Joe, for that.

• 1:08:09Speaker 04

  Well, there we go.

• 1:08:09Speaker 03

  For that fact there. Um, I'm all fact out, Joe.

• 1:08:13Speaker 04

  I, I mean, I'm, I am fact out.

• 1:08:15Speaker 03

  I am fact out. Uh, God knows what, uh, what this episode is going to be because we just.

• 1:08:21Speaker 04

  This has been a bit rambly to be honest.

• 1:08:22Speaker 03

  Yeah. This, uh, this has just been.

• 1:08:24Speaker 05

  We're okay.

• 1:08:25Speaker 04

  Has it been all right?

• 1:08:26Speaker 05

  We're okay.

• 1:08:27Speaker 03

  Absolutely, yeah.

• 1:08:28Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:08:28Speaker 04

  All right.

• 1:08:29Speaker 03

  There's some shit, there's some shit on the wall there, some of it was stick.

• 1:08:31Speaker 05

  We've had some amazing penis chats.

• 1:08:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:34Speaker 03

  Oh, that's all the stuff. Yeah.

• 1:08:35Speaker 05

  Bigged up your bum.

• 1:08:37Speaker 03

  All the stuff that I'd like to keep in.

• 1:08:39Speaker 05

  Robbie Williams.

• 1:08:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's good.

• 1:08:41Speaker 03

  Um, we hope that you've learned something or had a nice time. And we'll be back next week armed with more facts, chats and heads detached.

• 1:08:48Speaker 04

  Yes. Nice.

• 1:08:50Speaker 03

  Boleyn wasn't.

• 1:08:51Speaker 05

  She was beheaded.

• 1:08:52Speaker 03

  She was beheaded, yeah, of course she was.

• 1:08:53Speaker 04

  Very much so, yeah.

• 1:08:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, she was the second one, beheaded.

• 1:08:56Speaker 05

  Come on now.

• 1:08:56Speaker 03

  Divorced beheaded.

• 1:08:56Speaker 04

  Divorced beheaded died.

• 1:08:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:58Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 1:08:59Speaker 04

  Divorced beheaded survived.

• 1:09:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:09:00Speaker 04

  Not literally forever, but like.

• 1:09:02Speaker 03

  Can you name all the wives? I can't. Catherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn.

• 1:09:06Speaker 04

  Jane Seymour.

• 1:09:07Speaker 03

  Seymour.

• 1:09:07Speaker 04

  Anne of Cleves, Catherine Howard, Catherine Parr.

• 1:09:11Speaker 03

  Brilliant.

• 1:09:12Speaker 05

  Nicely done. And it's, I forget which round, which way around Howard and Parr are.

• 1:09:16Speaker 04

  I think it's Howard followed by Parr.

• 1:09:17Speaker 05

  It is.

• 1:09:18Speaker 04

  Catherine Howard was basically the daughter of the Duke of Norfolk, I think, who was one of these big English aristocrats.

• 1:09:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:09:27Speaker 04

  Once Anne of Cleves was out of the picture, he basically levered his own, well, I suppose my sense would be that he was like, oh, have you met my daughter?

• 1:09:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:09:38Speaker 04

  Um, and then, then she was also killed and then.

• 1:09:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:09:41Speaker 04

  Then eventually was Catherine Parr. And I, I feel like maybe she, well, she didn't get killed.

• 1:09:45Speaker 03

  Please.

• 1:09:46Speaker 04

  Quite an achievement if you've been married to Henry VIII.

• 1:09:48Speaker 03

  I feel like Cleves, she was one of the beheaded ones, right?

• 1:09:53Speaker 05

  Divorced.

• 1:09:54Speaker 03

  Oh, she was divorced.

• 1:09:55Speaker 04

  She was divorced. Basically, she was, it's a, it's a bit unfair, but she was rumored to be a bit ugly. She was known as the mayor of Flanders.

• 1:10:01Speaker 03

  Right. Who was the last one to be, uh, who was the second from last?

• 1:10:06Speaker 04

  Catherine Howard.

• 1:10:07Speaker 03

  Divorced beheaded, divorced beheaded, divorced beheaded. Yeah, it's the second to last one. Cause he would have been a pussy legged mess at that point.

• 1:10:17Speaker 04

  I think he was horrendous by that point.

• 1:10:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:10:18Speaker 04

  He must have just been pretty old.

• 1:10:19Speaker 03

  And I can't imagine she wanted to marry him anyway. And then she gets fucking beheaded for her troubles. Anyway. Um, don't forget that you can get in touch with us if you'd like us to fact check something that feels true to you or any kind of message that you want to get me in to, to me and Joe. Our email is hello at joeandjamespod.com. Our WhatsApp number is 07822 034330. And you can follow us on social media at joeandjamespod. And, uh, if I've garbled any of that, head to the podcast description, uh, and it's written clearly there. So, uh, thank you for listening. That's the end. We'll see you next week. Thanks, guys. Bye.

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