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BARKER GANG Ep. 5 | “The Hamm Kidnapping”

Infamous America

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This episode of Infamous America details the escalation of the Barker-Karpis gang from small-town bank robberies to brazen, high-stakes crimes in major metropolitan areas, culminating in the 1933 kidnapping of brewery heir William Hamm Jr. The host explains how the gang targeted the Third Northwestern National Bank in Minneapolis, a glass-walled building where a daylight shootout left three dead and netted a meager twenty-two thousand dollars. Exhausted by shootouts and low returns, the gang shifted tactics under the advice of a St. Paul club owner, adopting the kidnapping blueprint from the Lindbergh case. By abducting William Hamm Jr., the wealthy head of Hamm Brewery, and exploiting corrupt police protection under the O'Connor Code, the outlaws secured a one-hundred-thousand-dollar ransom with virtually no resistance.

  • Robbing a highly visible bank with huge windows required heavy artillery and careful timing around police shift changes. 3:27
  • A drunken pub crawl and an accidental intrusion into a journalist's apartment led to Larry DeVal's arrest and confession. 13:13
  • The gang shifted from violent bank robberies to kidnapping wealthy heirs to make more money with less police danger. 22:54
  • William Hamm Jr. was targeted because his wealth and sheltered background made him the perfect, compliant target. 24:24

Chapters

  1. 0:00
    Podcast Intro & Advertisements

    The episode opens with a brief Apple Sports ad, followed by a Rocket Mortgage promotion before the host introduces the show.

  2. 1:05
    Barker‑Karpis Gang Overview

    Chris Wimmer introduces the Barker‑Karpis gang and sets the stage for the episode’s focus on the 1932 Minneapolis bank robbery.

  3. 2:31
    Choosing a High‑Profile Target

    The gang decides to rob the Third Northwestern National Bank, a bold move that would expose them to heavy police presence.

  4. 3:37
    Planning the Heist

    Details of the robbery plan are revealed: timing the shift change, using tommy guns, and staging a getaway car with a switch car.

  5. 8:14
    Execution of the Minneapolis Robbery

    The gang bursts into the bank, engages in a shootout, and escapes with cash, but the operation ends in casualties and chaos.

  6. 12:47
    Aftermath and Escape

    Following the robbery, the gang disperses; some flee to Reno, others stay behind, and one member, Larry Duvall, is captured after a drunken brawl.

  7. 22:39
    Kidnapping Plan for William Hamm

    The gang shifts focus to kidnapping William Hamm Jr., planning a low‑risk ransom scheme that ultimately fails due to police interference.

  8. 30:45
    Execution of the Hamm Kidnapping

    Alvin Carpus and the crew abduct William Hamm, transport him to a safe house, and negotiate a ransom, but the plan is foiled by law enforcement.

  9. 32:54
    Series Conclusion & Teaser

    The episode wraps up with a recap of the gang’s decline and a teaser for the next episode, hinting at further violent crimes and the gang’s eventual downfall.

Highlights

  • 1:58

    Working in a greenhouse bankinsight

    Alvin Karpis described the Third Northwestern National Bank as working in a greenhouse because its massive windows on three sides exposed everything inside to the public.

  • 12:31

    A disappointing bank heist hauldata

    Despite executing a complex daylight robbery with six heavily armed men, the gang walked away with only twenty-two thousand dollars and three dead bodies.

  • 13:13

    A drunken mistake leads to capturestory

    Larry DeVal went on a bender after the Minneapolis heist and accidentally broke into an apartment belonging to a member of the press, leading to his swift arrest.

  • 20:56

    Switching from banks to kidnappingstrategy

    Following violent shootouts during bank jobs, a St. Paul club owner convinced the gang that kidnapping wealthy figures yielded massive payouts with far less risk.

  • 26:24

    Targeting the brewery fortuneinsight

    The gang selected William Hamm Jr. because his family's brewery business was valued at 4.5 million dollars, making him the literal embodiment of a fortune.

  • 27:29

    A surprisingly calm abductionstory

    When William Hamm Jr. was abducted outside his brewery, he offered zero resistance, calmly following every instruction without asking questions.

  • 31:45

    Corrupt police protect the kidnappersstrategy

    Corrupt former police chief Tom Brown manipulated the kidnapping investigation to shield the Barker-Karpis gang and frame an innocent crew instead.

Quotes

  • “The gang scheduled the hit for 3:00 in the afternoon, the exact time of the police shift change, hoping the transition would buy them a few precious minutes of confusion.”
    Unnamed speaker · 3:37
  • “Oscar died on the pavement nine days before Christmas.”
    Unnamed speaker · 10:55
  • Rocket Mortgage 0:32–0:53
  • Apple Sports 12:07–13:44
  • Base44 34:55–35:22
  • Coca-Cola 35:35–35:40

About this episode

When two violent robberies lead to three murders and a loss of a gang member, Ma Barker begins to wonder if there might be a better way to make money. Along comes a nightclub owner in St. Paul with an idea to kidnap the president of a bank, and he convinces the Barker-Karpis gang to embark on the first high-profile kidnapping of 1933. Thanks to our sponsor, Quince! Use this link for Free Shipping and 365-day returns: Quince.com/infamousamerica Thanks to our sponsor, Mood! For 20% off of your first order, use the promo code INFAMOUS at Mood.com Join Black Barrel+ for ad-free episodes and bingeable seasons: blackbarrel.supportingcast.fm/join Apple users join Black Barrel+ for ad-free episodes, bingeable seasons and bonus episodes. Click the Black Barrel+ banner on Apple to get started with a 3-day free trial. On YouTube, subscribe to INFAMOUS+ for ad-free episodes and bingeable seasons: hit “Join” on the Legends YouTube homepage. For more details, please visit www.blackbarrelmedia.com or @blackbarrelmedia on Instagram. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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Topics

  • St. Paul
  • Third Northwestern National Bank
  • Minneapolis
  • Nyquil Intense Flu
  • Infamous America
  • Brewery Hamm
  • Hennepin Avenue
  • Black Lincoln Town Car
  • Mississippi River
  • Hennepin Avenue Bridge

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