Focus Toolkit: Tools to Improve Your Focus & Concentration

In this episode, I provide a list of behavioral, nutritional, and supplement-based tools you can use to improve your ability to get into a focused state to do mental or physical work. I explain science-supported strategies for transitioning into focus, maintaining focus during the work bout, and exiting the focus session, which is also critical, including decompression/defocusing tools. I explain when and how to use: binaural beats, caffeine, deliberate cold exposure, the pros and cons of working in fasted vs. fed states, and supplements and foods that enhance dopamine, epinephrine (i.e., adrenaline) and acetylcholine to promote optimal focus. Also, I explain how short behavioral practices, such as meditation and visual gaze training, will benefit your ability to focus over the long term. As deep focus is crucial to significantly improve cognitive or physical performance in any realm, this episode should be useful to anyone. By the end, you’ll have an essential toolkit of science-supported, low- to zero-cost focus and concentration strategies to select from that can be tailored to your physical and mental performance needs. For the full show notes, visit hubermanlab.com. Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://athleticgreens.com/huberman LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/hubermanlab Waking Up: https://wakingup.com/huberman Momentous: https://livemomentous.com/huberman Timestamps (00:00:00) Focus Toolkit (00:04:42) Sponsors: AG1, LMNT (00:09:37) The “Arrow Model” of Focus: Epinephrine, Acetylcholine & Dopamine (00:15:15) Modulation vs. Mediation, Importance of Sleep (00:18:11) Tool: Binaural Beats to Improve Concentration (00:20:54) Tool: White, Brown & Pink Noise, Transition to Focused State (00:22:55) Warm-Up for Cognitive Work, Refocusing Attention & Neuroplasticity (00:26:14) Tool: Ultradian Cycles: Warm-Up, Maintaining Focus & Deliberate Defocusing (00:31:22) How Many Daily Ultradian Cycles Can One Perform? (00:32:28) Sponsor: AG1 (00:35:35) Virtusan: Mental & Physical Health Journeys (00:36:52) Tool: Fasted vs. Fed States & Focus, Prevent an Afternoon Crash, Ketosis (00:45:52) Tool: Foods to Improve Focus & Regulating Food Volume (00:47:53) Tool: Caffeine & Focused Work, Dopamine Efficacy, Alertness (00:52:55) Tool: Stress & Improved Concentration (00:55:46) Tool: Deliberate Cold Exposure & Focus, Dopamine & Epinephrine (01:00:39) Layer Focusing Tools & Design Your Own Protocols (01:01:19) Tool: Short Meditation & Improved Ability to Refocus (01:07:40) Tool: Yoga Nidra, Non-Sleep Deep Rest (NSDR) & Defocus Periods (01:12:13) Tool: Hypnosis & Focus/Deep Relaxation States (01:16:07) Optimal Time of Day to Use Specific Tools (01:16:46) Tool: Overt Visual Focus & Deliberate Gaze (01:20:42) Covert Visual Focus; Deliberate Gaze Warm-Up & Focused Work (01:24:43) Tool: Omega-3 Essential Fatty Acids (01:27:28) Tool: Creatine Monohydrate (01:29:10) Tool: Alpha-GPC & Acetylcholine, Increased Risk of Stroke? & Garlic (01:33:52) Tool: L-Tyrosine Supplements & Food (01:34:47) Combining & Choosing Focus Tools, Variability (01:36:50) ADHD Prescriptions, Training Neural Circuits, Maintenance & Reduced Dosage (01:39:19) Tool: Optimal Order Approaching Focus Tools, Prescriptions & Dependency (01:42:56) Tool: Phenylethylamine & Dopamine (01:44:50) Tool: Other Supplements to Enhance Dopamine, Epinephrine & Acetylcholine (01:46:46) Behavioral, Nutrition & Supplement Tools for Focus (01:49:12) Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Momentous Supplements, AG1 (Athletic Greens), Instagram, Twitter, Neural Network Newsletter Disclaimer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Andrew D. Huberman?

  Welcome to the Huberman Lab Podcast where we discuss science and science-based tools for everyday life.

• 0:09Andrew D. Huberman?

  I'm Andrew Huberman and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine. Today, we are discussing focus and concentration and tools for improving your focus and concentration. This is a topic that I've covered previously on the Huberman Lab Podcast, but in different contexts. For instance, we had a very popular episode on ADHD, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, which of course relates to the topic of focus and how to improve focus. We've also talked a lot about dopamine motivation and drive. In fact, that's the title of a previous, also quite popular, episode of this podcast. But never before have we had a single episode solely devoted to the tools to improve focus and concentration. The rationale for recording this episode is to provide people one location where they

• 0:51Andrew D. Huberman?

  can go and quickly access the specific tools for increasing focus and concentration that are known to be the most powerful tools and the most up-to-date tools. In fact, today's episode is going to include description of several peer-reviewed studies and the tools that emerge from those scientific peer-reviewed studies that point to new and fortunately even briefer protocols than I've described before. So what I'm basically describing here is tools that in a very short amount of time will allow you to significantly increase your focus and concentration abilities. Those tools will include behavioral tools, nutrition-based tools, supplement-based tools, brain-machine interface-based tools, and for those of you that are working with physician prescription drug tools.

• 1:33Andrew D. Huberman?

  Today's episode ought to benefit anybody, young or old or anything in between, whether or not you have ADHD or not. Today's episode is going to give you tools that you can apply in your daily life. Most all of them are completely zero cost and those tools will allow you to tap into the neurochemistry and the neural circuits within your brain and body that peer-reviewed science has reliably shown can significantly improve your focus and concentration abilities. Just to give you a little teaser of the kinds of tools that I'm going to provide you on today's episode, a previous guest on the Huberman Lab Podcast was Dr. Wendy Suzuki. Dr. Suzuki is a professor of psychology and neuroscience at New York University, or NYU as it's commonly referred to. She's also the dean of arts and sciences at NYU.

• 2:15Andrew D. Huberman?

  Her laboratory made a very important discovery, which was that a very brief, just 12, actually 13 if you really count the intro, but 13-minute daily meditation performed for a period of about eight weeks. Significantly increase people's focus and concentration abilities. And the great news is you didn't need all eight weeks. It was just that's how long that you ran the study. So during today's episode, I will describe that protocol in detail. I'll also provide you an even briefer alternative to that protocol that you can use. If, for instance, you find yourself with only three minutes or four minutes or five minutes a day to meditate. The great news is there's quality, peer reviewed science to support that form of meditation for improving focus and concentration.

• 2:56Andrew D. Huberman?

  And that falls under the bin of these zero cost tools that you can really use to tap into the neurochemistry and neural circuits that really allow you to take control of your cognitive abilities and improve them over time. I'll also provide you important details about that protocol and other protocols. For instance, contrary to popular belief, it is not, I repeat, it is not a good idea to do a focused based meditation within the four hours before bedtime. Many people, including some of the subjects in that study performed by the Suzuki Lab, found that when they did a focusing meditation protocol, even if it was very calming, it led to difficulties in falling and staying asleep. So that runs counter to a lot of what we've heard about meditation being great for sleep. It turns out meditation might be great for sleep.

• 3:40Andrew D. Huberman?

  It certainly is great for improving focus capacity. But I highly recommend that if you're going to apply a focus meditation tool in order to improve your focus and concentration, that you make sure that that's performed not within four hours prior to bedtime. So that's just a brief example of the sorts of tools and protocols and details about the tools and protocols that I'll provide on today's episode. I should mention that we have provided links in the show note captions so that you can quickly go to the studies that we described, as well as some of the behavioral tools and other tools that we'll cover, things like the use of binaural beats, supplements, et cetera. Our goal here again is to provide you the maximum number of tools for focus and concentration that you can pick from and choose from and apply in your life and try and eliminate

• 4:22Andrew D. Huberman?

  as much of the legwork required to seek out and apply those tools. Before we begin, I'd like to emphasize that this podcast is separate from my teaching and research roles at Stanford. It is, however, part of my desire and effort to bring zero cost of consumer information about science and science related tools to the general public. In keeping with that theme, I'd like to thank the sponsors of today's podcast.

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• 6:07Andrew D. Huberman?

  Okay, let's talk about focus and concentration and how you can improve your focus and concentration using science-based protocols. Now, because today's episode is mainly focused on tools and not so much the underlying mechanisms, I'm mainly going to focus on what to do and when and how to do it. But I just want to take about three minutes and briefly describe a model, that is a visual image that you can put in your mind, that will help you incorporate the tools that I'll provide and that generally will help you understand at a mechanistic level how focus and concentration work. So what I want you to imagine is an arrow. And an arrow, of course, has an arrow head and it has the shaft of that arrow. And in the context of the neuroscience of focus and concentration,

• 6:52Andrew D. Huberman?

  the neurochemical system that really represents the shaft of that arrow, right? The straight line is epinephrine, also called adrenaline. And today I'll refer to adrenaline and epinephrine interchangeably. Turns out that epinephrine slash adrenaline are released within your brain from a little location, a little cluster of neurons called locus ceruleus, but you do not need to remember that name, and from your body, from the adrenal glands. And the release of epinephrine from those two locations overall increases energy, it increases alertness. It does not alone increase focus, okay? So the reason I've assigned epinephrine, adrenaline, as the shaft of the arrow is that if focus is the arrow,

• 7:35Andrew D. Huberman?

  there is no focus without epinephrine. So things, whether or not they're behavioral or psychological or supplements or drugs that increase epinephrine, allow focus to occur, they are necessary for focus, but they are not sufficient for focus. That is, they are required, but they are not enough to create focus. So we're going to need epinephrine in the equation. Without epinephrine, there is no focus or concentration. Now, the arrow head on this metaphorical arrow head that represents focus and concentration is going to be represented or related to the mechanisms of acetylcholine, a different neurochemical that also exists in the brain and body.

• 8:17Andrew D. Huberman?

  In fact, in the body, it's responsible for the contraction and movement of your muscles. But today, we're talking about acetylcholine, not in that context, but rather in the context of its release within the brain. Acetylcholine is released from a couple of different locations in the brain, and the best way to think about it is it's like a spotlight. It highlights specific neurons, nerve cells, that should be active or more active, I should say, than the other neurons in the environment. So the reason I've assigned the arrow head to acetylcholine and acetylcholine to the arrow head is that if you have an arrow with a very big arrow head that's really broad, really blunt, imagine a mile-wide arrow head. That's not very focused on any one location. It's not really pointing to any one location, is it? But

• 8:59Andrew D. Huberman?

  With a narrow, really tightly focused arrowhead, well, that's focused on one location. So we have alertness, epinephrine, and then we have the actual direction in which our concentration and focus is placed, and that's, at least in this mental model, I'm creating acetylcholine. And then, in order to have ongoing focus, we need another neurochemical. And it turns out that that third neurochemical is dopamine, a molecule often associated with pleasure and reward, but it's really the molecule of motivation. So here, I want you to imagine in your mind an arrow with an arrowhead, think acetylcholine in the arrowhead, a shaft or a line behind that arrowhead, which is epinephrine, also

• 9:42Andrew D. Huberman?

  called adrenaline, and then behind it, a sort of an engine that keeps that focus moving forward, right? Because we don't just want to be focused for a moment, we want to be able to focus for 10 minutes, or for an hour, or maybe even for two hours. Turns out, there's an optimal duration to focus, I'll teach you that in just a little bit. But these three neurochemicals together, acetylcholine, epinephrine, and dopamine, really allow you to get focused, to focus very precisely, and in fact, increasingly precisely over time, to really narrow and narrow and narrow your focus progressively within a single bout of focus, and to continue to do that and to be able to do that repeatedly whenever you want. So here, I'm purely talking in metaphor and in models and mental models of arrows, but in a moment or two, I'll start transitioning to discussing tools in which I'll talk about

• 10:27Andrew D. Huberman?

  increasing dopamine and acetylcholine, or increasing epinephrine and dopamine in various combinations with various approaches. And what I'd like you to conceptualize is how those are contributing to creating a very narrowly pointed arrow that has the capacity to continue moving forward over and over so that you can focus as sharply and as long as you like. And of course, for those of you that want to get really down in the weeds of how dopamine works, we have an entire episode about dopamine motivation and drive that really gets into neurotransmitter release and dopamine baselines and thresholds and all of that sort of thing. We also have episodes on focus, much longer episodes, I should say, on focus, that incorporate a lot of the biology of acetylcholine.

• 11:08Andrew D. Huberman?

  Turns out, acetylcholine is also involved in neuroplasticity, et cetera, and epinephrine, of course, relates to stress and our capacity to deal with and buffer stress, and on and on. Those episodes are all available to you in their long form at hubermanlab.com. You can find them very easily. They are all time stamped. You can navigate to the particular topics most of interest to you. I mention this all not as a diversion from what we want to cover today, but I know that some of you are hungry for a lot more mechanism. But today's episode is really mainly focused on the tools. I will, of course, touch on mechanism, but if you really want to do the deep dive on mechanism, go to hubermanlab.com and you'll have more than you ever could want about those mechanisms. Let's jump into the tools for concentration and focus.

• 11:50Andrew D. Huberman?

  If you want to think about tools of any kind to modify your biology or physiology in any way, whether or not it's for cognitive function, or you want to get better at exercising, or you want to build muscle, or you want to improve your hormones, you need to think and understand tools in the context of modulation and mediation. What do I mean by that? Well, it's quite simple, really. Mediation is how specific types of chemicals and cells and circuits and organs control very specific things in your brain and body. Whereas modulation is the ability of chemicals and cells and circuits to adjust how different things change, how different things work in your brain and body, but to do it more broadly.

• 12:32Andrew D. Huberman?

  What do I mean by this? Let me give an example. For instance, I'm going to tell you now that one of the most important things to build and maintain your focus and concentration is to optimize your sleeping behavior. That is to get enough quality sleep, I would say 80% of the nights of your life. Not everyone can get optimal sleep 100% of the nights of their life. Nobody, truly nobody achieves that. However, sleep has been shown to relate to cognitive performance, physical performance, hormone output, and so many other things, including immune system function. What we can reliably say Is that sleep modulates just about every process in your brain and body. So you have to get great sleep.

• 13:16Andrew D. Huberman?

  There is simply no tool that's going to allow you to overcome chronic sleep deprivation and allow you to remain focused. No pill, no device, no supplement, no protocol whatsoever. There are tools to overcome one night or maybe two nights of sleep deprivation. And we'll talk about those. But at a fundamental level, we need to do the things that modulate our focus and attention in powerful ways. And sleep really is that thing. So we've done two episodes, one called Master Your Sleep, and the other episode is Perfect Your Sleep. The Perfect Your Sleep is a little bit more like this episode, more focused on protocols. Master Your Sleep includes protocols and mechanism. Again, you can find those at hubermanlab.com. We also have a sleep toolkit, a distilled list of things to do in order to optimize your sleep.

• 14:00Andrew D. Huberman?

  I highly recommend that you download that. You can go to hubermanlab.com, go to the neural network newsletter. It is listed there. If you want, you can sign up for the newsletter, but you don't have to. You can simply download the PDF of that toolkit for zero cost. Why do I say sleep modulates focus and attention? Well, I'll give an analogy. If right now someone pulled a fire alarm in this building, or if we had a fire in this building, my attention would drift. It would not be on recording this podcast. It would be on something else. But would I say that the fire alarm mediates attention? I mean, fire alarms are not really involved in attention. No, rather, they modulate my attention. The noise in the room modulates my attention. That's quite a bit different than a tool that I'll provide later, and I'll just give you a little hint of now.

• 14:42Andrew D. Huberman?

  In fact, I'll give it to you now, which is that 40 hertz binaural beats have been shown in a number of peer reviewed studies to increase focus and concentration. And if you'd like to access 40 hertz binaural beats in order to improve your focus and concentration, you can do that. You can actually get it at zero cost. You can go into the App Store. For instance, the Apple App Store. This is also available for Android phone. There's an app called Brainwave and you can go there. You can dial in 40 Hz and it'll play these binaural beats. It's been shown in multiple quality peer reviewed studies that playing a pattern of sound waves to one ear, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, and the other ear, which is slightly offset in frequency, meaning not quite the same frequency, so more like duh, duh, duh, duh, that that combination of frequencies played to the different ears

• 15:26Andrew D. Huberman?

  actually get integrated within deep brain centers and can increase focus and concentration in part by increasing levels of the neurochemical dopamine and acetylcholine, which we talked about a little bit earlier in this arrow model of focus. So we'll provide a link to that app. I don't have any relationship to that app, I should mention. But it's an excellent one. It's one that I've used for many years. There are also additional functions within the app, such as for sleep and for other things. But the 40 Hz, 40 Hz is the way it reads out. 40 Hz stimulation has been shown to improve focus and concentration. Here is my recommendation and the way that I use it. I would not use 40 Hz binaural beats every time I'm doing a bout of work.

• 16:08Andrew D. Huberman?

  What I tend to do is use it for about five minutes prior to that work and then turn it off and then do the work. And I'll talk about other tools to use during that work, whether or not it's reading or math, or even just emailing or something where I require a bunch of focus for a while. However, there are times in which I'm in an area or I'm in a state of mind where I'm feeling very distractible and then I'll keep the 40 Hz binaural beats on the entire time I'm doing that bout of cognitive work. I'll also sometimes use the 40 Hz binaural beats prior to a workout, in particular, weight workouts, where I really want to be able to focus on and contract specific muscles. It's a very useful tool. Again, supported by quality, peer reviewed science, zero cost, available out there, not just in the Brainwave app, but in multiple apps. I think many of you will benefit from it.

• 16:52Andrew D. Huberman?

  Some of you might not experience it immediately as a total dropping into a tunnel of focus in the same way that you might with, say, the sorts of neurochemicals that we'll talk about later, like Alpha GPC and some of these other things that change neurochemicals directly. But nonetheless, 40 Hz binaural beats are a very powerful tool. Again, zero cost, non-pharmacologic tool that tap into your own endogenous, meaning within you or exists within you physiology in order to increase acetylcholine and some other neurochemicals. And they have been shown to work quite well. Okay, so assuming that you are sleeping well, 80% of the nights of your life, or at least working. On the various protocols and tools to sleep well and sufficiently long, 80% of the nights of your life.

• 17:36Andrew D. Huberman?

  And you are interested in additional tools that are sound-based in order to improve your ability to concentrate and focus. There are quality, peer-reviewed studies supporting the idea that white noise or pink noise, and believe it or not, there is something called pink noise, it has to do with the specific frequencies of sound that are in the noise. Well, white noise and pink noise have been shown to not improve concentration, per se, but to improve people's ability to transition into concentrated states. So I don't tend to use white noise and pink noise while I work, but I know a number of people that do. I know people that also use what's called brown noise. The folks I know from the engineering and computer science side get really into these details of white noise, pink noise, brown noise.

• 18:21Andrew D. Huberman?

  You can find white noise, pink noise, or brown noise and listen to it through headphones or in the room. There is indeed some data to support the fact that white noise, and to some extent, pink noise and brown noise can support the release of particular neurochemicals, but more data showing that they can amplify the activity of neurons in the so-called prefrontal cortex, this front area, this sort of bumper behind your forehead, that is directly related to your ability to direct your own focus and remain focused on certain things. So you have the option of either using binaural beats before, but not during your work, that is, 40 Hz binaural beats, or 40 Hz binaural beats throughout your attempt to focus. You also have the option of not using binaural beats,

• 19:06Andrew D. Huberman?

  but using white noise, pink noise, or brown noise. Again, there are a lot of zero-cost apps. You can find also white noise, pink noise, and brown noise on YouTube. Again, these are tools that really have been shown over and over in humans to allow people to focus with more depth and to decrease the transition time into focus. This is a really key point. A lot of people are challenged with getting into a mode of focus. None of us, however, should be expected to just sit down and drop directly into a state of focus. I think that's completely an unfair request of ourselves. I mean, for instance, you wouldn't expect yourself to go out on the track or go out for a run and not warm up. You might jog for a few minutes or even walk before you would jog and then jog before you would run, right? I would hope you would do that. And if you're doing resistance training,

• 19:51Andrew D. Huberman?

  I doubt that you go over and load up the bar or the machine with the maximum amount of weight that you can move and then just drop right into that. You always do a warm up. And I think it's very important to understand mental work, focus and concentration as requiring that warm up. What is that warm up? Well, you know what that warm up is. That warm up is the ramping up or the increase of epinephrine, adrenaline, acetylcholine and dopamine. The way that neurochemicals work is we don't just get to flip switches in our brain because we decide to. That's a fantasy. That's sort of the limitless movie or, you know, movies and ideas that suddenly, you know, you're going to flip a switch on your arm and all of a sudden you're going to be in a laser focus. That is just not the way that your nervous system works. There's a gradual dropping into any state, whether or not that state

• 20:34Andrew D. Huberman?

  is sleep, right? You go from shallow sleep to deep sleep and then out eventually. Focus two, you go from shallow focus to increasingly deep focus. That is, in our metaphor of the arrow, it's very broad. It's pointed at a lot of things. And over time, as we drop into focus, that arrow is narrowing and narrowing and narrowing. In fact, probably better to think about it narrowing and then sometimes oscillating and getting wider again. You know, we might hear something down the hallway or more typically, our phone will buzz or we'll think, oh, I wonder what so and so is doing or I hadn't contacted them about something. Your focus is dynamic. It is not what we call a step function. It's not like you go from unfocused to focused and then you drop into your maximal focus.

• 21:15Andrew D. Huberman?

  By understanding that it's dynamic, by understanding that you are going to be continually going in and out of progressively but varying levels of focus.

• 21:25Andrew D. Huberman?

  You will greatly release the pressure on yourself to feel focused all the time when you want to be. This is very key. People who are very good at focusing, understand this and understand that they can't expect themselves to just immediately focus and then snap into or out of focus. Okay, so be patient with yourself and also understand that focus is an ability, that you can improve your ability to focus by engaging the neural circuits responsible for focus repeatedly over time. Through so-called neuroplasticity, the ability of your nervous system to change in response to experience. And that has a couple of different components, but put very simply, what we repeat gets etched into our nervous system and becomes easier over time.

• 22:06Andrew D. Huberman?

  And the more emotionally important or vital something feels to us, the more likely it is to trigger neuroplasticity. We're going to talk a little bit more about how to increase neural circuits for focus later, but right now, what you have in hand is the key importance of sleep. And I again, will direct you to hubermanlab.com and the neural network newsletter to really work on optimizing your sleep. We've also got two auditory, sound-based tools for improving focus. There's 40 hertz binaural beats used before or during bouts of focus and concentration. And if you don't like those, or even if you do, you might alternate them with or occasionally use white noise, pink noise, or brown noise, also readily available at zero cost. A question I often get is how long should I try to focus?

• 22:48Andrew D. Huberman?

  Well, the research literature point to the key importance of so-called ultradian cycles. You've all probably heard of circadian cycles or circadian biology. Circa the day, circadian, is about 24-hour cycle. Well, our brain and body operate within that day, or within each and every day, I should say, with 90-minute ultradian cycles. So my suggestion would be anytime you're going to sit down and try and focus, you're going to try and do a focused bout of physical exercise, or skill learning, or musical learning, or maybe you're even just having a conversation. Maybe you're a therapist, or you're attending therapy, or a class. How long should it be? And the ideal duration is about 90 minutes. Not exactly 90 minutes, but we can reliably say 90 minutes or less. Okay, it doesn't have to be the full 90 minutes.

• 23:32Andrew D. Huberman?

  But trying to push yourself to be able to drop into two hours of focus, or three hours of focus, while possible, is not really in line with what we know about the underlying biology. Everything from our sleep states, or the different stages of sleep, and our waking states is divided into these 90-minute cycles, or so-called ultradian cycles. So what I like to do is set a timer for 90 minutes. I acknowledge and accept the fact that under most conditions, unless I'm really pressed for a deadline and I'm optimally caffeinated, et cetera, the first five to 10 minutes of that 90 minutes are a transition time. It's like the warm-up for focus, but I do include it in that 90 minutes. And then I really try and drop into doing focused mental work or learning of some sort. Again, this could be physical as well, motor skill learning,

• 24:16Andrew D. Huberman?

  or I think we're running or lifting weights, et cetera, and really try and drop into that across the full 90 minutes, again, accepting the fact, okay, it's not just an idea, the fact that occasionally our focus will flicker. It will jump out of focus and then a big part of being able to focus is to go back to focusing. The way I'd like you to conceptualize this perhaps is that arrowhead suddenly getting very, very broad, that you're focusing on many things, or that arrow shifts to a different location in the room. The key is to be able to shift it back and to narrow it once again, and that's an active process, so much so that it requires a lot of metabolic energy. Your brain is the chief consumer of metabolic energy. The calories that you consume is so-called basal metabolic rate. Most of that isn't related to movement or heartbeat or breathing. It's related to

• 25:01Andrew D. Huberman?

  brain function. Your brain is a glutton with respect to caloric need. So, understand that at the end of 90 minutes, or maybe even after 45 minutes, you might feel rather tired or even exhausted, and it's very important that after about a focus, that you take at least 10 minutes and ideally as long as 30 minutes and go through what I call deliberate defocus. You really want to focus on somewhat menial tasks or things that really don't require a ton of your concentration. This is starting to become a little bit of a movement out there in the kind of pop psychology and optimization world. This idea of not looking at your phone as you walk down the hall to the bathroom, certainly not looking at your phone in the bathroom. And I should mention, by the way, this is a particular annoyance of mine. Have you noticed that wait times for restrooms in public places has increased

• 25:46Andrew D. Huberman?

  substantially in the last 10 years? The reason for that is not digestive, okay, it's not the gut microbiome, I mean, it might be the gut microbiome, but chances are it's because people are on their phones in the bathroom. So, you're doing yourself and everybody else a favor by staying off your phone in the restroom, staying off your phone while walking down the hall. Try and give yourself some time to deliberately decompress, to let your mental states idle, to not be focused on any one thing. That Period of idling is essential for your ability to focus, much in the same way that rest between sets of resistance training, or rest between exercise, is vital to being able to focus and perform during the actual sets, or during the actual bouts of running,

• 26:28Andrew D. Huberman?

  or cycling, or whatever your particular form of exercise might be. So deliberate decompression is key, and I know this is hard because we're all being drawn in by the incredible rich array of sensory information available on our phones and other devices, but I can't emphasize this enough, our ability to focus is not just related to what happens during the entry and movement through those focus bouts, but after those focus bouts, we really need to deliberately decompress. And of course, the ultimate decompress, the time in which we are not directing our thinking and our action, is during sleep. And so it's no wonder, or I should say it holds together logically, that that deep, long-lasting duration of not controlling where our mind is at, is in fact, the ultimate

• 27:11Andrew D. Huberman?

  form of restoration, even if we have very intense dreams. So take that period after each 90-minute or less focus bout, right? Remember, those focus bouts don't have to be full 90 minutes. Let's say you do 45 minutes of work, you're just done with it, set it down and go do something for maybe 5, 10, maybe even 30 minutes, that is functional for your day, just not just walking around in circles, or staring up at the sky, although if you can do that, do that. But most of us have other things to do, but do things that are rather automatic or reflexive for you, and try not to do any focused reading, try not to bring your vision into a tight location, such as your phone, and try and deliberately decompress, because that will allow you to drop into intense bouts of focus, again, repeatedly and repeatedly throughout the day. I'm often asked how many ultradian cycles one can perform throughout the day.

• 27:56Andrew D. Huberman?

  That depends on how well you've slept, how well you are nourished, which we'll talk about in a moment, and how well-trained up your focus capacity is. And here's the paradox. If you are very trained at focusing, if you're very good at dropping into focus, you're actually going to need more deliberate decompression and defocus. And I recommend only doing about two, maybe three, deep work sessions per day. So not one 90 minute session, then expecting yourself to do another one, another one, another one, but rather one deep work 90 minute session and maybe another in the afternoon. A lot of people get surprised by this and say, wait, how many people can afford to just work three hours a day? I'm not saying just work three hours a day. I'm really talking about the hard mental work.

• 28:38Andrew D. Huberman?

  And again, somewhat paradoxically, the more you can concentrate, the more deeply you can concentrate, the fewer deep work concentration bouts you can actually perform each day. It makes sense, however, if you think about it in the context of, say, resistance training. If you are stronger and stronger in the gym, or you're an endurance athlete and you can run, you know, ultra marathons, 100 miles or so, you are essentially cutting a deeper cut into your recovery capacity than somebody who's not very skilled at those things or can't perform as much intense work. So the intensity of the work scales directly with how long you need to rest after that work. I, at this stage of my life, am pretty good at dropping into and maintaining focus bouts of concentration, provided the landscape of my life is right.

• 29:23Andrew D. Huberman?

  You know, I don't have some burning stressful thing that's essential or an emergency that I'm tending to, and that I put my phone away or turn it off. I can do three 90 minute focus bouts per day, but that's about it. And then in between those focus bouts, I'm doing other things that require less focus. Some of you may be able to perform four. What I highly recommend is that you try doing at least one, that is, one 90 minute or less bout of focused, concentrated work per day. And yes, that means the weekends too. And on the weekends, I like to read a book with my phone nowhere in sight, not on any device. That's what I do. Or I'll listen to an audiobook sometimes while taking a walk, but really concentrating on what I'm trying to learn. What I'm hearing and what I'm seeing. So again, a daily 90 minute bout is one to start with.

• 30:08Andrew D. Huberman?

  And I would say after about four weeks of that, if you're able to stay concentrated and work through the agitation, then I would consider increasing the number of focus bouts. Again, this is not to say that you should go to your teacher or your PhD advisor or your parent or your friends and say, listen, I can't really concentrate or think about anything for more than 90 minutes per day. That's not what I'm saying. These are deep focus bouts. These are bouts of work or I should say, mental work or physical work where you're really forcing yourself to focus and refocus, to sharpen the head of that arrowhead, to redirect it to what you're trying to concentrate on. And it is indeed hard work. I would even think about it more or less like a workout of any kind.

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• 31:14Andrew D. Huberman?

  I mentioned the topic of nutrition a little bit ago. And of course, nutrition is a complicated topic. In fact, one of the quickest ways to get yourself into a battle online is to say something definitive about nutrition. I just want to clearly state my stance about nutrition. I fully support and applaud those of you that are vegans for whatever reason, those of you that are pure carnivore for whatever reason, and those of you that are omnivores for whatever reason. I happen to be an omnivore. My goal is always to eat high quality, minimally or non-processed foods and to eat things in moderation. So I do eat some meat from sustainable sources or from organic sources. I eat some starches and I eat vegetables and I eat fruits. I try not to eat sugars and I don't really like highly processed foods at this point in my life. That's me. That's what I do. But I'm certainly not dictating what people should eat.

• 31:57Andrew D. Huberman?

  I know certain people are ketogenic and I can say that for people who achieve ketosis and can get into ketosis, yes, indeed. There is a mental state associated with ketosis that will allow your brain to function and to think really clearly that many people find very attractive and keep them going back over and over again to a ketogenic diet. I'm somebody who, for instance, has not been in ketosis many times in my life, at least not deliberately so, but I actually will ingest liquid ketones from time to time because of the further cognitive enhancement or physical enhancement that I experience on top of nutrition that does include some carbohydrates. So there are a lot of different ways to approach all this, whether or not you're a vegan, omnivore, vegetarian, carnivore, et cetera. The point is this: your ability to focus, and in fact, your ability of neurons to encode

• 32:42Andrew D. Huberman?

  specific information in your environment, that is, to represent what's out there in the world, is actually related to your blood glucose level. Now, here I'm setting aside the discussion of ketosis and ketogenic diets for the moment, but there's a beautiful study that was published in Neuron not long ago that showed that the tuning, that is, the precision with which neurons in the brain will represent things in our environment, is actually much greater when there is sufficient glucose in the brain. Translated into English, this means that when we are fasted, or when our blood glucose is very low, we aren't able to perceive and think about things as clearly. Now, there's a twist to this, however. Many people who practice intermittent fasting, and I should say, I practice a sort of pseudo-intermittent fasting, I generally eat my meals between the hours of 11:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m., although

• 33:27Andrew D. Huberman?

  sometimes there's some wiggle around that. Occasionally, I have an early breakfast, I'm not super rigid about it, but I know there are a number of people who are doing longer fasts, or they're eating in a six-hour window. We did an entire episode about fasting, you can, again, find that at hubermanlab.com. We'll likely have Sachin Panda, who's an expert in intermittent fasting, on the podcast. Intermittent fasting has a lot of different potential benefits. For some people, it's a convenient way to restrict their calories. For other people, it's a convenient way to avoid eating. That is, it's easier to not eat than to eat a small portion, so they opt for intermittent fasting. And so on and so forth. But one of the things that you hear very often is that some people like being fasted because they like the clarity of mind that it provides. Here's the situation.

• 34:09Andrew D. Huberman?

  Neurons, unless you're in a ketogenic diet, really thrive on glucose. They love glucose. And as I mentioned before, your ability to think and perceive things is actually enhanced by having sufficient glucose in your bloodstream. So why would it be that some people experience a heightened state of mental clarity when they are fasted? I've certainly experienced that before. Well, I should say that provided you're well hydrated enough and you have enough electrolytes in your system, what tends to happen is that when you ingest food, there's a shift in your nervous system towards so-called parasympathetic mode. That is, the more relaxed, you've probably heard it as rest and digest, although it does other things, the more relaxed mode that can indeed make us very sleepy. If we have too many carbohydrates, it actually can make us quite sleepy. However, if we have any food, if we have enough of it, that is, if our gut is full,

• 34:54Andrew D. Huberman?

  it diverts blood to our gut and we become sleepy and we can't focus as well. So a lot of people really like fasting in the state of being fasted for focus and concentration because they don't have as much of that parasympathetic activation. They're just not as sleepy. And in fact, under those conditions, half as much caffeine will give you just as much lift as twice as much caffeine will give you on a full belly of pasta. And that's just the way that caffeine interacts with blood glucose. So what I'd like you to imagine is if you had a measure of focus from zero to 10, these are arbitrary units, 10 being maximally focused and zero being not focused at all. Imagine a U-shaped function, right? Where if you're very fasted, you're going to have a high degree of focus and concentration.

• 35:36Andrew D. Huberman?

  But then if you ingest some food and your belly is full, your focus and concentration is reduced. But having enough blood glucose and maybe even elevated blood glucose will increase cognitive function. So there are two ends of the spectrum. On one end of the spectrum, blood glucose is relatively low and you're fasted and you can think and... Behave in a very concentrated way. And on the other end of the spectrum, you have a lot of blood glucose, or I should say sufficient blood glucose. You never want your blood glucose to be too high. And that allows your neurons to encode and perceive and basically allow you to think really clearly. So you sort of have to pick your condition. What do you want for your bouts of focus and concentration? I actually do both. So what I do is, as I mentioned before, I eat my meal sometime around 11 a.m., my first

• 36:19Andrew D. Huberman?

  meal typically, unless I'm very hungry when I wake up. And so I will do my workout and one bout of focused work. I always think of this as my hard work early in the day. And I do that fasted. I'll be consuming water with electrolytes, maybe element or other electrolytes, maybe some caffeine as well in the form of yerba mate or coffee. That's my first focus bout of 90 minutes or less. That is essentially done fasted. And then I'll eat. And then I do notice after I eat, I actually have a diminished capacity to focus. But then again, in the afternoon, I will do another 90 minute bout of focus. And I'll talk about some of the tools I use to make sure that that bout of focus is optimal for getting the most amount of focused work done, whether or not it's mental work or physical work, although I tend to do my physical work early in the day and my mental work

• 37:04Andrew D. Huberman?

  both early and late in the day. So to make this very simple, or as simple as I can for you, being fasted is great for focus and concentration, provided you're not thinking about food the entire time. And being fed is terrific for focus and concentration, actually can improve neuronal function, provided that you didn't eat too much food. So one way to manage this is if you're going to have a lunch, to make sure that you don't stuff yourself at lunch, that you're not overeating and to not get quite so full that you push your nervous system into this parasympathetic mode and make it hard to focus in the afternoon. I know a lot of people experience a dip or even a crash in energy in the afternoon that make it really hard to focus. For that reason, I'll just remind people of a tool I've talked about many times before,

• 37:47Andrew D. Huberman?

  which is based on the biology of adenosine and caffeine, et cetera, which is to delay your first caffeine intake to 90 to 120 minutes after waking up. I know that can be painful for certain people. I violate that rule when I'm working out very early in the morning. I'll drink my caffeine before my workout, which often occurs within, you know, 30 to 60 minutes of waking. But in general, unless I'm working out very early, I will ingest my caffeine 90 to 120 minutes after I wake up. So again, I want to emphasize that if you hear somebody out there say being fasted is optimal for focus and concentration, well, that is true in one context and perhaps ideal for a certain part of the day. And other people will say, no, you know, neurons run on glucose. You need glucose in your bloodstream in order

• 38:32Andrew D. Huberman?

  to get those neurons to be tuned, that is, to respond with electrical activity in the optimal way when you're reading something or when you're trying to perform exercise. Well, that's also true. And of course, you can incorporate both. I, in fact, as I just described, incorporate both fasted states and fed states in order to optimize my concentration and focus. And as a brief note about ketosis, for those of you that actually managed to transition into ketosis and are maintaining a ketogenic state, that, as I mentioned earlier, can enhance brain function, concentration and focus because of the way in which ketones can be used as a so-called optimal fuel for neurons. The ketogenic diet was originally

• 39:14Andrew D. Huberman?

  designed, if you will, for epilepsy. It has a whole relationship to epilepsy and controlling epileptic seizures. And it can, in fact, allow people to achieve focused, concentrated brain states. So in the future, I'll do an episode about ketosis and be sure to circle back on how to optimize ketosis for focus and concentration, although I have to believe that most of the people listening to this are probably not in ketosis or following a ketogenic diet. So that's why I mainly focused on fasted states and fed states. And just to make sure that I'm thorough, a fasted state to me would be a state in which you haven't ingested any calories, but may have ingested caffeine or maybe even a small amount of artificial sweetener or something like that, but really haven't ingested any significant number of calories in the previous four to eight or maybe even 12

• 39:58Andrew D. Huberman?

  hours. And again, there's tremendous variation here depending on how long people have fasted, whether or not we're talking about the state right after people wake up, et cetera. Again, if you're interested in intermittent fasting, both for sake of mental and physical health and performance, check out our episode on fasting at hubermanlab.com. I also want to touch back on this idea of which foods can increase focus. You know, in the episode on ADHD that I did, I touched on this quite a bit as it relates to elimination diets. You know, there's a whole industry and a ton of interest for obvious reasons. Into what sorts of things kids and adults should and shouldn't eat in order to reduce symptoms of ADHD. I think that the sum total of those data point to the fact that reducing simple sugar intake and certainly highly processed foods, so ice cream, candy, chips,

• 40:43Andrew D. Huberman?

  etc., those sorts of things really does seem to improve symptoms of ADHD in both children and adults. But once you move past that and you start to say, well, which foods can improve concentration and focus? Well, foods that, for instance, include a lot of tyrosine, which is a precursor to dopamine, and now you know why dopamine is important in this context, are certainly going to increase concentration and focus. So things like Parmesan cheese, certain meats, certain nuts, you can look up which foods contain high amounts of tyrosine. There are also some fruits and vegetables that include high amounts of tyrosine. But to be quite direct, it doesn't matter whether or not you're ingesting foods that are rich in the precursor amino acids to dopamine, acetylcholine, etc.,

• 41:25Andrew D. Huberman?

  if you are consuming large amounts of those foods. That is, one can look and see, for instance, that a steak includes a lot of the precursors to acetylcholine. It has amino acid precursors to dopamine as well, and there are other foods that will do that as well. But if I were to ingest, say, two ribeye steaks, that's a lot of meat, and it will direct a lot of blood to my gut, and it will cause me to be sleepy, and that will create challenges in me being able to achieve states of focus and concentration. So the simple way to put this is, if you eat too much, or you eat a very large volume of food, you are going to diminish your focus and concentration. Okay, the key is to eat enough that you're nourished for the certain activities, mental and physical, that you

• 42:09Andrew D. Huberman?

  need to perform. But if you're eating large meals, you are going to diminish your concentration and focus. Period. I know many people are curious as to whether or not caffeine can improve focus and concentration. And indeed, it can. There is an immense amount of data supporting the idea that caffeine, provided it's consumed in the appropriate dosages, can improve mental performance and physical performance, and it largely does that through improvements in focus and concentration.

• 42:38Andrew D. Huberman?

  The dosage of caffeine, of course, is going to depend on how caffeine-adapted you are, how much caffeine tolerance you have. And that is going to vary tremendously depending on whether or not you ingest that caffeine with or without food, as I mentioned earlier. But there is a kind of general range in which we can talk about caffeine as being useful for focus and concentration. And the range is basically from 100mg to 400mg. I want to caution everybody out there. If you're somebody who suffers from anxiety or panic attacks and you're not used to ingesting caffeine and you run out and ingest 400mg of caffeine in the form of espresso or yerba mate or an energy drink or in pill form, that is going to be very uncomfortable for you. You're going to be sweating profusely, your heart rate is going to increase, you're going

• 43:23Andrew D. Huberman?

  to be quite panicked, in fact, or at least anxious. So be cautious with your use and adopting of caffeine if you're not already caffeine-adapted. But most people do quite well to ingest 100 to 200mg of caffeine prior to doing some focused work. And again, I recommend delaying your caffeine intake to 90 to 120 minutes after waking unless you are using that caffeine to really jolt your system before a workout. Caffeine can, of course, be ingested in various forms, even pill form, but most people ingest it in the form of coffee or my particular favorite way to ingest caffeine is yerba mate. It is important, and I should note, that you should actively avoid the smoked versions of yerba mate as they contain a lot of carcinogenic, cancer-promoting compounds.

• 44:09Andrew D. Huberman?

  There's some great yerba mate brands out there. The most cost-effective way to consume it would be to use the loose-leaf tea and to pour water over that. There's one particular brand that I like. I don't have any affiliation to them whatsoever, but I've been using it for years. It's Anna Park. It's an organic brand that is sold. I buy mine on Amazon. You can find it elsewhere on the internet as well. Again, I don't have any affiliation to them. It's just very cost-effective, very clean. It doesn't have the smoked flavor, at least the one that I buy is not the smoked variety. So none of the carcinogenic compounds are in there, at least that I'm aware of. And I like the way it tastes and it provides a very even lift and stimulant that I think certainly works for me and that a number of people I know that I've suggested to also enjoy.

• 44:51Andrew D. Huberman?

  Yerba mate or caffeine also have other additional benefits. In particular, the caffeine in yerba mate and coffee and other sources of caffeine are known to increase the density and efficacy. That is, the number and the function of dopamine receptors. And this has been shown in humans several times. So by ingesting caffeine pretty regularly, you're actually increasing the ability of dopamine to have this effect of increasing motivation and drive. I tend to ingest caffeine only early in the day. I tend to cut off my caffeine intake somewhere around 1:00 or 2:00 PM to ensure that I can get into a good night's sleep. But I realize that there are people out there that ingest caffeine as late as 2:00 or 3:00 in the afternoon and can still sleep fine. I will caution those of you that think that you can drink caffeine in the evening or nighttime

• 45:36Andrew D. Huberman?

  and still fall asleep. All of the research points to the fact that the architecture of your sleep and the depth of your sleep is disrupted, even if you're able to fall and stay asleep. The sleep you're getting is simply not as good as the sleep you would get if you were to shut off your caffeine intake at least eight hours before bedtime and ideally more like 10 or even 12 hours before bedtime. But of course, there are practical constraints as well. Okay, so caffeine is increasing dopamine's function by changing the number and efficacy of dopamine receptors. But of course, it also increases our wakefulness, our alertness. And that is largely through the neurochemical systems related to adenosine, which is a molecule that builds up in our brain and body the longer we are awake. It's part of the sleepiness system, if you will.

• 46:20Andrew D. Huberman?

  Makes us feel fatigued or tired. And caffeine also operates on the epinephrine, the adrenaline system. In fact, if we ingest too much caffeine, we'll sometimes get the jitters. Those jitters are really the sympathetic, as it's called, nervous system's bias toward movement. And our pupils will dilate. They actually get broader. Now, somewhat paradoxically, when our pupils get bigger, the pupils of our eyes, that is, our visual world actually narrows. It becomes more tunnel light. A lot of people don't realize this. When our pupils are really small, that means we are relaxed. So if you ever see someone with really tiny's or, you know, pin-sized pupils, they're very relaxed. If their pupils are very big, they're very dilated, well, then they are very amped up. They're, they are very, very alert.

• 47:05Andrew D. Huberman?

  Caffeine increases alertness by increasing epinephrine, adrenaline release, both in the brain and within the body. And so that's another way that it facilitates focus and concentration. Now, there are other ways to increase epinephrine in the brain and body besides caffeine or other stimulants. And in fact, that has been studied. There's an excellent study that was carried out not that long ago on how stress itself can increase our ability to focus and concentrate. That's right, how stress itself can increase focus and concentration. You know, most people think of stress as impairing our ability to focus, but that's actually not true. When we are stressed, it involves the deployment, the release of adrenaline, epinephrine, and that adrenaline both changes our visual field. In other words, it narrows

• 47:50Andrew D. Huberman?

  our vision to a more tunnel-like focus. That is, it makes the arrow in our metaphor of the arrow more sharp, and it improves our concentration. This makes sense, given what we know about stress. When we're stressed, we tend to be stressed about a specific thing. We start anticipating, or wondering, or thinking about what's going to happen next, what led up to this, how is this going to impact me, how do I feel right now? It really narrows the context of our thinking and our behavior. So one of my favorite studies that really illustrates how stress can improve concentration and performance is one that was published not that long ago, and I will provide a link to this in the show notes. It's a paper published in the journal Experimental Psychology in 2020. The title of the paper is, not surprisingly,

• 48:32Andrew D. Huberman?

  "Acute Stress Improves Concentration Performance." First author, Degroot, D-E-G-R-O-O-T-E. And this study involved taking a number of subjects and stressing them out or not prior to a cognitive or concentration task. And there are a lot of data in this paper, but I'm just going to home in on one specific set of data. And I should mention, as I go there, that they measured things like cortisol, a stress hormone, they measured anxiety. It was a quite thorough study. And what they found was that concentration performance improved manyfold, I should say, from, there was a greater than doubling of concentration and performance in the stress group. And stress in this context was provided using a standard way of inducing stress.

• 49:16Andrew D. Huberman?

  What they basically do is they bring subjects into the laboratory and they have to either do something fairly mundane in the control group, or they have to do a simulated job interview, an arithmetic task, and they're being evaluated as they're doing this. So this isn't, you know, intense psychosocial stress. You know, they're not watching anything disturbing. They're not being traumatized in any kind of way. This is fairly low levels of stress that rates their levels of epinephrine, and we know this from this study, and other levels of cortisol and other stress hormone modestly within their brain and blood. But that even modest increase in these stress hormones and their reported psychological levels of stress really enhance their focus and concentration.

• 49:59Andrew D. Huberman?

  This may come as surprising because you, like many people think, gosh, stress really diminishes cognitive performance, but that's absolutely wrong. Stress improves cognitive performance. Now, of course, there are other ways to increase stress levels and to do that in healthy ways to improve concentration and performance. And one of the best ways to do that, because it's so surefire and it's generally safe, provided you do it safely, is deliberate cold exposure. This is something I've talked about on the podcast before, but deliberate cold exposure can be achieved by getting into a cold shower for one to five minutes. If you're not used to it, you probably want to start with one minute, or you can get into an ice bath, or nowadays there are a number of different commercial sources of circulating cold water, or if you have access to a body of cold water, like a lake, or a pool, or an ocean.

• 50:43Andrew D. Huberman?

  We know that getting into cold water or under cold water greatly increases epinephrine levels and dopamine levels in the brain and blood. There's a beautiful study that was published in the European Journal of Physiology that showed that the increases in dopamine are massive, you know, near doubling or more of dopamine levels that are very long lasting for hours. And epinephrine and indeed cortisol levels are also increased and in ways that support not just Immune system function because they do that, but and mood because it does that, but that can really improve concentration and focus. I touched on this a little bit in an episode about memory, that there's an age-old practice, really dating back to medieval

• 51:27Andrew D. Huberman?

  times, of putting people into cold water right after they learn something in order to spike, to increase their epinephrine as a way to consolidate those memories. For sake of today's discussion, if you're interested in ways to improve focus and concentration, you need to increase your epinephrine, your adrenaline levels. Cold water exposure is one of the most efficient ways to do that. This is not a biohack. I don't like the word hack. I know it's commonly used, but a hack is something where you're using one thing for a different purpose than it was originally intended for. And here, I'm not referring to the shower or the cold bath, I'm referring to epinephrine. Epinephrine is a neurochemical that will place your vision into more of a tunnel mode, which will allow

• 52:09Andrew D. Huberman?

  you to focus on cognitive work or physical work in a more specific way. You're not going to be as distractible. And it's very easy to achieve by getting into a cold shower or a cold body of water for a brief period of time. People always ask how long to get under or into cold water and how cold to make it. Here's the thing, it should be uncomfortably cold, but safe to stay in for one to five minutes. Okay, so uncomfortably cold, that you really want to get out, but safe to stay in, not so cold that it's going to give you a heart attack, and not so warm that it's comfortable, that it doesn't create that adrenaline release. Cold water exposure, I should say deliberate cold water or non-deliberate cold water exposure reliably increases epinephrine levels. It is incredibly useful as a tool

• 52:52Andrew D. Huberman?

  for this. And it is, in fact, zero cost or even negative zero cost. How could it be negative zero cost? Well, you can certainly save on your heating bill by taking a cold shower. So that's one way. And for those of you that have access to devices or locations where you can get into cold water, you can submerge, well, then that can work. For those of you that don't, maybe you take a cold bath, you get in up to your neck, that's going to be most efficient. For those of you that can't do that, you'll get under a cold shower. Again, It should be uncomfortably cold to the point where you want to get out, but that you can safely stay in for one to five minutes. How long should you do it before a work bout? Well, if you get into really cold water, it's uncomfortably cold and get out after about three minutes, you're probably good to go, dry off and get to work.

• 53:36Andrew D. Huberman?

  Some of you might think this is a little bit silly as a tool for focus and concentration. But if you look at the data on epinephrine and how powerfully it can increase focus, I think you'd be very impressed. I mean, it certainly can increase one's ability to attend to specific visual stimuli. So for reading or math work, et cetera, it's going to be very useful. Now, of course, you don't want to make it so cold that you're shivering and chattering the whole time. And of course, you could, if you like, combine this with 40 hertz binaural beats. There's no reason why you couldn't combine the two protocols. But the point here is that a lot of people would love to, and I think ought to leverage, the health promoting and powerful effects of increasing epinephrine on focusing concentration. And running out and getting stressed by a life event or getting into an argument

• 54:19Andrew D. Huberman?

  or something like that, simply as a way to increase focus and concentration, doesn't seem that adaptive to me. So deliberate cold exposure is a straightforward way to do that. It doesn't involve anyone else. I suppose you could do it with somebody else, but it doesn't require anyone else. And again, there are zero, low and even negative cost ways to approach that. If you'd like to know how long the positive effects of epinephrine last toward improving focus and concentration. Well, if we look to that study from de Groot et al., the acute stress improves cognitive performance study, they measured concentration before and 30 minutes after the stress was induced. And there does appear to be a quite long lasting, really up to an hour or more effect of increasing epinephrine.

• 55:01Andrew D. Huberman?

  So how might you apply these sorts of protocols early in the day or later in the day? Well, one suggestion or one potential protocol would be, if you're going to sit down and do some work, if you're already feeling alert and focused, no need to reach to this tool. But if you're feeling like your focus and alertness isn't quite where you'd like it to be, you could take a three minute very cold shower or submerge yourself in cold water for three minutes. You might have a cup of coffee as well and then sit down and do that work. Maybe even throw in the 40 hertz binaural beats. All of that would be layering in the different systems, the different neurochemicals, such as acetylcholine, epinephrine. And dopamine that are going to lend themselves to a really terrific 90 minute or less workout. Now I'd like to discuss some of the purely behavioral tools that

• 55:44Andrew D. Huberman?

  quality peer reviewed science say can improve focus and concentration significantly. At the beginning of today's episode, I talked about the study from Dr. Wendy Suzuki's lab, where they explored a 13 minute meditation done every day for a period of eight weeks. That meditation led to significant improvements in focus and concentration ability, as well as other aspects of cognitive performance. It also improved mood and reduced stress. So you might be wondering, what exactly is this meditation? The meditation is very simple and it's one that anyone can perform. What you would want to do is set a timer for about 13 minutes. I don't think it has to be exactly 13 minutes, but since that's what they included in the study, you would set a timer for 13 minutes, you would sit or lie down,

• 56:29Andrew D. Huberman?

  close your eyes, and you would simply focus on your breathing. Most people are going to benefit from only doing that breathing through their nose, but if you have some sort of obstruction or inability to breathe just through your nose, you could probably also do it by breathing through your nose and mouth or just your mouth. But ideally, you would do just nasal breathing for a period of 13 minutes, concentrating on that breathing and concentrating, meaning bringing your awareness, your so-called interoceptive awareness, if you wanted to get really technical about it, your interoceptive awareness to a point just about an inch inside of your forehead. Now, of course, that might sound kind of gory to some of you. You've never actually been inside your forehead, but just about an inch behind your forehead is where you would want to place your concentration

• 57:14Andrew D. Huberman?

  while also concentrating on your breathing. Now, here's the thing about meditation that all studies of meditation show, which is that unless you are a very experienced meditator, your concentration, your focus will drift away from your breathing and away from that location about an inch inside your head, inside your brain, about just behind your forehead.

• 57:39Andrew D. Huberman?

  That will happen maybe every 10 seconds, every 20 seconds, maybe even every five seconds. But an important part of such a meditation practice to improve concentration and focus is that you are continually refocusing back to that specific location and refocusing back on your breath. This is something that, again, is not often discussed. People think that if you do a meditation and you're supposed to concentrate on your breath, that if your mind drifts, that somehow you failed in that meditation. But actually, that's not the case. A huge component of improving your ability to focus and concentrate by way of neural plasticity rewiring of the circuits for focus and concentration is the repeated return to a state of focus from a state of non-focus or diminished focus.

• 58:24Andrew D. Huberman?

  Okay, so think about it like trying to drive down the freeway and staying between the lane lines, excuse me, and every once in a while, because there's a bit of drift on the vehicle, maybe the wheels aren't aligned correctly, or there's something else wrong with the chassis or the steering device, it starts to drift right a little bit, then you hit the rumble strip, and then you pull back to the center. That's really what a focused meditation practice is about, as opposed to expecting yourself to stay between the mental lane lines, so to speak. So if you're somebody who's going to do a practice of the sort that I described, you know, 13-minute meditation practice every day, you'd want to sit or lie down, close your eyes, start to concentrate on your breath, focus your attention on a location about

• 59:04Andrew D. Huberman?

  an inch behind your forehead, and then fully expect that at some point, you'll be thinking about something else, and that's a cue to focus back to that location, just about an inch behind your forehead and back to your breath. By doing that repeatedly over and over, what you're really training up is the network within your brain that indeed includes that prefrontal cortex that you're focusing on, as well as some other structures, the infratemporal cortex, indeed, the hippocampus, a structure associated with memory, and other components of the neural circuit that are involved in directing our mental focus and concentration. Again, I can't emphasize the importance of this practice being one of focusing and refocusing.

• 59:44Andrew D. Huberman?

  In fact, I would prefer to call such a practice a refocus focus meditation, or a constantly refocusing, or maybe you all can come up with a better name for it. I'm certainly not that good at naming things. But this sort of meditation practice has been shown in the study by the Suzuki Lab and other studies. To really improve people's ability to focus and remain focused. So much so that in the beautiful book Altered States, they describe a number of different meditation practices, some a little bit longer than the one that I described, one that's 17 minutes, another one that's 30 minutes. Some people meditate as long as 60 minutes a day, although that's quite a long time, in my opinion. The point here isn't how long you focus or somehow trying to achieve total focus

• 1:00:28Andrew D. Huberman?

  for the entire 13 minute or 17 minute or 60 minute bout of meditation. While that would be wonderful, and I think many people aspire to do that, that's a lot of hard mental work. I think for most people out there, including myself, a relatively short meditation practice of about 13 minutes in which you fully expect your focus and concentration to drift, but that you are continually refocusing is going to be the most effective. Yes, indeed, the most effective at teaching yourself to focus and stay concentrated. In fact, I invite you to interpret every time that you focus off that location, about one inch behind your forehead, as an opportunity to refocus and think about the refocusing as the trigger for teaching your neural circuits

• 1:01:12Andrew D. Huberman?

  how to focus for extended periods of time. And as a bonus to that sort of meditation practice, the study from Wendy Suzuki's lab also showed that people experience improvements in sleep and improvements in memory. So not just improvements in mood and reduction in stress and improvements in focus and concentration, but all these other positive benefits from just doing that 13 minute a day meditation practice. It's one that I've started to adopt and have felt tremendous benefit from and that I encourage many of you to try as well. The one cautionary note is the one that I mentioned at the beginning of the episode, which is because the refocus, as I'll call it, meditation does involve a significant amount of effort and engagement of these prefrontal cortical circuits, it is disruptive to sleep if performed too closely to sleep.

• 1:01:56Andrew D. Huberman?

  So if you are going to do that practice, I recommend that you not do it within the four hours prior to your bedtime. Earlier, I mentioned that I would talk about ways to improve focus if you are sleep deprived. This is something that I'm all too familiar with. I put a lot of effort into optimizing my sleep. That's something that with each passing year, I put more and more effort into again, because sleep is so vital for mental health, physical health and performance of all kinds. But certainly in my role as a student, in my role as a professor and in my role in life, I've had numerous times in which I simply did not get enough sleep or my sleep was terrible for whatever reason. And yet I still had work demands and social demands, et cetera.

• 1:02:36Andrew D. Huberman?

  One practice that is very effective at allowing you to focus better than you would otherwise under conditions of sleep deprivation is so-called non-sleep deep rest or NSDR. This is also referred to sometimes as yoga nidra. Yoga nidra actually means yoga sleep. Yoga nidra is a practice of lying down for about 10 to 30, sometimes even as long as 60 minutes. You listen to a script. It's an audio script that takes you through a progressive deep relaxation. It involves a body scan, some long exhale breathing. It is very restorative in the sense that one tends to emerge from yoga nidra or NSDR feeling greatly refreshed compared to how you felt prior to it. There is also terrific neuroimaging data from laboratories in Denmark

• 1:03:21Andrew D. Huberman?

  showing that there's a restoration of dopamine levels in the so-called basal ganglia after NSDR, aka yoga nidra. Whether or not you call it yoga nidra or NSDR, which is what I refer to it as, non-sleep deep rest, you can find these scripts at zero cost, multiple places. You can find there are certain apps that are NSDR or yoga nidra apps. There is a NSDR protocol that was put out there by Made For, which is on YouTube, that you can access for free. There is a NSDR, or I should say a number of NSDR protocols through the VirtuSign app. There are again, number of different places that one can access NSDR protocols. I do NSDR for 10 to 30 minutes per day, every single day, not just on days where I'm sleep deprived.

• 1:04:06Andrew D. Huberman?

  If I happen to be sleep deprived, I would extend that NSDR to 30 or 60 minutes. And when you do that NSDR will depend on when you have time for that NSDR. When I haven't slept well, what I'll try and do is find a quiet place where I can do NSDR for 30 or ideally 60 minutes. Sometimes I will fall back asleep during that NSDR. That's fine if you do that, but most people will stay awake during the NSDR. And then I'll emerge from that and go about my day. If in the afternoon, I'm very fatigued because of lack of sleep, I might do another NSDR of 10 to 30 or 60 minutes and then another workout. Again, NSDR is something I do every day. I talked a lot about this in the episodes related to sleep because it can help you get

• 1:04:46Andrew D. Huberman?

  better at falling and staying asleep at night in addition to feeling restorative in that immediate timeframe of the day in which you do NSDR. So it's immensely beneficial at various times and for various purposes. But here, within the context of trying to concentrate and focus when you're sleep deprived, NSDR, AKA yoga nidra, is an immensely beneficial practice. There's growing amounts of quality science pointing to the neurochemical replenishing effects, as I mentioned before, dopamine, but also the potential for NSDR to replace sleep that you've lost. I would never want anyone to try and use NSDR as a total replacement for sleep, but under conditions in which you cannot control your sleep, NSDR is going to be the best

• 1:05:29Andrew D. Huberman?

  way that I am aware of to restore your ability to focus and concentrate for whatever purpose. And if you emerge from your NSDR and then drink some caffeine, you'll notice an even greater capacity for focus and concentration for all the reasons directly related to caffeine. So again, NSDR is a general tool for enhancing your ability to sleep and it's a tool that you can use in order to compensate for, at least to some degree, compensate for lost sleep when you need to focus and concentrate. One thing that really contrasts NSDR and yoga nidra with the sort of focus meditation that I talked about a few minutes ago, the 13-minute meditation, is that during that 13-minute meditation, you're actively trying to refocus and focus, whereas during NSDR and yoga nidra, you're actually trying to defocus.

• 1:06:14Andrew D. Huberman?

  So you can think of the 13-minute meditation for refocusing and focusing as directly tapping into and mediating improvements in the circuitry for focus and concentration, whereas you can think of NSDR and yoga nidra as modulating your brain and body state to allow you to focus and concentrate better. Now, another tool that you can use to directly tap into the circuits for focus and concentration and to greatly accelerate neuroplasticity, the Improvements, or I should say the changes in those circuits that will allow you to focus and concentrate better is hypnosis. A lot of people hear hypnosis and they think stage hypnosis, you know, people squawking like chickens and doing things against their will. But actually, hypnosis is a atypical but highly accessible brain state that's been

• 1:06:59Andrew D. Huberman?

  studied with a lot of rigor at Stanford University School of Medicine by my colleague, Dr. David Spiegel. He's been a guest on this podcast previously. Hypnosis is a unique brain state because it's one in which you are deeply focused and yet deeply relaxed. So to just sort of set up the array of practices here so you can think about them logically, the focus refocus meditation is based on and focused on focus, no pun intended. NSDR and yoga nidra are aimed at deep relaxation. Hypnosis is this atypical, very powerful brain state in which you combine high levels of focus and deep relaxation. Now, it's a little bit of a tough one to just take oneself into, but fortunately, there's a tool based

• 1:07:42Andrew D. Huberman?

  on a lot of quality, peer-reviewed research from the Spiegel Lab and other labs, and that is the Reverie app, R-E-V-E-R-I. The Reverie app is available for no cost, at least for a period of time, and then I think they place certain elements of it behind a paywall. But you can try at zero cost. It's available for Apple soon, I think, also to be available for Android. And they have specific hypnosis protocols that you listen to, and these are very brief protocols. Follow the instructions. You're listening to a particular audio script of David Spiegel himself, and some progressive breathing, and actually some eye movements that are directly linked to the neural circuits that allow for these highly focused, deeply relaxed states. And there are components within the Reverie

• 1:08:23Andrew D. Huberman?

  app specifically geared towards improving focus and concentration. So again, there's meditation for focus, there's deliberate decompression, NSDR, yoga nidra, which take you into deep relaxation, and then hypnosis. Is this very special, very directed state of highly focused and highly relaxed, or I should say deeply relaxed, that allow access to the neural circuits for focusing concentration and allow you to tune those up and to improve those very significantly in a very brief amount of time. And again, some of those hypnosis scripts are as short as eight minutes, somewhere as long as 13 minutes. So what we're really talking about here are zero cost tools that directly tap into the neural circuits, the components within your brain that allow for deep relaxation, allow

• 1:09:07Andrew D. Huberman?

  for deep focus and improve your ability to focus and concentrate over time simply by repeating these. How often do you need to repeat the Reverie Hypnosis for Focus and Concentration before you see benefits? Well, that will vary from person to person. I tend to use it once every third or fourth day and have experienced tremendous benefits from it. I don't think I'm unique in that sense. They have a lot of data to support this Reverie app and the protocols within it. How long do you have to do NSDR before you experience those benefits there? I would say the first time and every time because it's so deeply relaxing that you emerge from it feeling quite restored relative to how you went into it. And as I mentioned earlier, in the study on meditation, it took about eight weeks to

• 1:09:49Andrew D. Huberman?

  see the effects that they observed in that study, but they didn't observe shorter time points. So I highly encourage people to explore meditation geared towards focus and refocus, also NSDR, non-sleep deep rest, AKA yoga nidra, and the Reverie app, specifically the hypnosis within the Reverie app that's geared towards improving focus and concentration. All of these have terrific science to support them. This is not woo science or hacks or just something that people came up with. This is all grounded in work from some of the best universities in the world, from excellent groups who have looked at underlying neural mechanisms and measured things with a lot of rigor, et cetera, et cetera. These tools are available to you. I highly recommend that you use them. And if you're interested in the optimal time of day to do these, we already mentioned that the

• 1:10:34Andrew D. Huberman?

  Focus, refocus meditation shouldn't be done too close to sleep. The Reverie Hypnosis app can be done at any time. Really, in fact, there's a component of falling back asleep in there. In other words, a hypnosis specifically geared toward helping people teach themselves to fall back asleep when they wake up in the middle of the night. NSDR, I always say can be done first thing in the morning, in the afternoon, or any time of day. And in fact, I'll sometimes do that in the middle of the night if I happen to wake up and need to get back to sleep. So really, these tools can be applied most any time of day, except for that one caveat about the focus refocus meditation not being done too close to sleep. Now, there's another set of behavioral tools that can really help enhance one's ability to focus, and those are visual based tools.

• 1:11:15Andrew D. Huberman?

  In fact, the tools I'm about to describe are actually being employed in a number of schools in China and elsewhere in order to teach children to focus better and for longer periods of time. The key principle here is that much of our cognitive focus, our ability to think about something in a very specific way and stay focused on it, to read or to follow a line of conversation, or math, or music, et cetera, is going to be directed by our visual system. Our visual system has two forms of attention and focus. One is overt focus, which is very straightforward. If I'm looking at the tip of my pen, for those of you listening right now, I'm looking at the tip of my pen. That's overt focus. I'm focusing on it with my eyes.

• 1:11:57Andrew D. Huberman?

  And of course, the rest of my brain then will follow and start to analyze the details of what I'm seeing, the contours of the pen, et cetera. It seems sort of obvious when you first hear it, but our cognitive focus tends to follow our overt visual focus. That's also why they put blinders on horses. That's also why sometimes wearing a hoodie, or a hat, or limiting your visual field in some way can help you enhance your cognitive focus. It can help limit distraction. You're just not seeing as much. It's also why when we ingest caffeine, or any kind of stimulant, or we are stressed, and our pupils dilate, and our vision becomes more tunnel-like, less panoramic, but more tunnel-like. You know, they say a soda straw view of the world, or you're looking through a tunnel. Your focus, your visual focus is actually driving your cognitive focus.

• 1:12:41Andrew D. Huberman?

  Your cognitive focus is narrower than it would be if you were seeing the whole scene that you're in. So when you hear this, it sounds obvious, but for many people, including many scientists, it's just not obvious that this would be the case. However, that is the case, your visual focus drives your cognitive focus. So what is a practice that has been studied in various laboratories and that's being employed in various schools is to have children or adults visually focus on one location for a given period of time. How long? Anywhere from 30 seconds to three minutes. And believe it or not, three minutes is a long time to maintain visual focus at one location. If you were to try that right now, you'd probably find it to be a bit of a strain. But if you want to try it, you can. Keep in mind, you yes, are allowed to blink.

• 1:13:26Andrew D. Huberman?

  But also keep in mind that meditation refocusing practice that we talked about earlier, that the refocusing is the key component of teaching yourself or your brain, you are your brain, your brain is you, but to teach yourself how to focus better. So if you're going to incorporate this practice, what you would want to do is pick a location. It could be on a wall, it could be on your computer in front of you, although I would encourage it to not be the contents of your computer screen. You might just want to blank your screen. You might want to put a piece of paper with a crosshatch there, any sort of visual target, or you can imagine a visual target, and then focus your visual attention on that target and try to breathe normally, try and stay relaxed and certainly allow yourself to blink so that your eyes don't dry out. This is not a test of how long you can go without blinking.

• 1:14:10Andrew D. Huberman?

  By focusing on that particular location and by forcing yourself to refocus on that location, anytime your gaze, your vision drifts from that location, you are encouraging the circuits for focus to get better at focusing for longer and longer and at refocusing when your focus drifts off of that location. This is incorporating neural circuits, including the prefrontal cortex, things like the frontal eye fields. For those of you curious about the underlying biology, this practice is recruiting certain elements of your so-called prefrontal cortex, also the frontal eye fields, which are locations not far from the prefrontal cortex that are involved in deliberately directing your gaze to particular locations in space, not outer space, although you could do this by focusing on stars, I suppose,

• 1:14:54Andrew D. Huberman?

  but in visual space. Now, I mentioned before that this is overt visual focus and attention. You are overtly looking at that location. But one also very powerful practice for improving focus and concentration is to use covert focus. Covert focus is where my gaze, my eyes are focused on one location, such as my pen, but my focus is actually directed elsewhere in the room or location that I'm in. My mind and, to some extent, my peripheral vision is focused, in this case, on the door just to my left in the room that I'm in. That takes a little bit more effort. This is something that all old world primates, of which we are old world primates, are able to do.

• 1:15:37Andrew D. Huberman?

  And it probably evolved as part of the mechanism by which animals could evaluate their scene, evaluate predators, evaluate other primates, while not necessarily staring at them directly so they can obtain information. We can obtain information without having to direct our gaze specifically to one location. Maybe we can obtain information from multiple locations. Indeed, we can. Without getting too far down the rabbit hole of how vision and cognition relate, because we've done episodes on that previously, and simply focusing on the tools that can be incorporated to improve focus and concentration, here's what I recommend. Set yourself a low bar at first and set a timer

• 1:16:21Andrew D. Huberman?

  and try to focus on one location for 30 seconds, and that's it for that day. The next day, you might add five seconds, and then the next day, five seconds after that. If you miss a day, no big deal. Simply do the practice for the same amount of time that you did the last time that you did the practice, and then gradually try and increase the amount of time that you can focus on one visual location overtly, by looking directly at that location. If you like, and if you feel you have the ability, you can try and do this through covert attention and focus by looking straight forward, for instance, and attending to something in the corner of the room and trying to do that for 30 seconds. You'll find that that's quite a bit harder. And then extending that by five seconds every time you do the practice.

• 1:17:04Andrew D. Huberman?

  This is something that I don't think you necessarily have to build up to being able to do for a full hour in order to extract the benefits. In fact, the best way to think about this practice is as a means to get into a focused state. If you remember back about an hour or so ago, I was talking about how focus states are not a drop all the way in and then exit type phenomenon. We don't just drop into a focused state the same way we don't drop into the peak performance of a workout. We warm up. So what I recommend is having a 30 second to three minute period at the beginning of about a focus where you're going to do work or physical work and anchoring your vision to one location somewhere in the room, or if you want to do it covertly, you can do

• 1:17:48Andrew D. Huberman?

  that, setting a timer and trying to do that for anywhere from 30 seconds to three minutes. What you're doing when you exercise that practice is you are ramping up neural activity within the neural circuits that create focus and concentration. Then I would stop looking at that location or that covert location and then I would move to the work that you're trying to do, either mental work or physical work. And if about halfway through your 90 minute bout, or at some point in your 90 minute bout of work or exercise, you feel that your concentration is drifting, rather than look at your phone and scroll through the thousands of context that exists within social media or your phone, try just picking a location again on the wall, focusing back on that location, using that as a ramp up to then direct your focus back towards if

• 1:18:33Andrew D. Huberman?

  your weight training sets and reps that you might be performing, if you're running, you might do this, or cycling, you might do this by focusing on a particular location and really homing in on that location physically. And this is a practice that a lot of athletes use, in fact. And if you're, say, doing musical practice or math, well, then you'd want to focus on something other than the task that you're trying to perform. But again, using visual focus as a way to ramp up and increase your overall ability to focus and concentrate, and then applying that to whatever it is that you're trying to learn or perform. Next, I'd like to talk about compounds that can improve concentration and focus. And these are most often consumed as supplements, although some of them, I should mention, can also be derived from food.

• 1:19:15Andrew D. Huberman?

  Again, I just want to remind you that there are things, in this case, compounds, that can modulate a biological mechanism, that is, can modulate focus and concentration. And there are compounds that can mediate, can directly contribute to concentration and focus. One of the key compounds that supports concentration and focus, because it generally supports mood, concentration and focus, and brain function in general, are the omega-3 essential fatty acids. I've talked about the omega-3 essential fatty acids in a variety of contexts, in particular, depression, but also ADHD, there are interesting data on that. And it's really clear that getting somewhere between one and three grams of EPA, that

• 1:19:58Andrew D. Huberman?

  is, one to three grams of EPA essential fatty acid per day, can improve outcomes, that is, can improve mood and can improve cognitive function. And while there's some debate about whether or not it can improve cardiac function, it's very clear, at least to me, that ingesting one to three grams of EPA essential fatty acids per day is beneficial. But again, in the context of focus and concentration, it's in modulating the neural circuits and brain function that are going to support focus and concentration. It's not as if taking one to three grams of EPA essential fatty acids per day is going to tap directly into only the circuits for focus and concentration.

• 1:20:39Andrew D. Huberman?

  That said, and as discussed on the episode of the Huberman Lab podcast with Dr. Rhonda Patrick and on the episode on ADHD that I did and on the episode on depression that I did, I make it a point to ingest one to three grams of EPAs per day. You can get those EPAs from other sources besides supplements, of course, but supplements are going to be the easiest way to do that. You could do that through liquid form, fish oil, cod liver oil, some people who are vegan opt for other sources of EPAs. You can find those out there. Certainly, some people even use prescription EPAs to get the dosage really high. Dr. Rhonda Patrick talked about this in the episode with me. That's actually something that she does. I don't take the prescription form. I get them through pill form through our

• 1:21:22Andrew D. Huberman?

  supplement affiliate, which is Momentus. But there are a number of different quality sources of EPAs out there. And some of those quality sources also include things like fatty fish, algae, and things of that sort. So I'll leave it to you as to whether or not you supplement with omega-3 fatty acids in order to get that one to three grams per day, or whether or not you do it through food. But I would encourage you to try and reach that threshold because there are a number of known positive effects for mood and brain function generally. The other thing that can positively modulate brain function, and that actually works as a fuel for neurons to function and can improve cognitive performance, in particular within the brain circuits, such as the prefrontal cortex that are involved in concentration and focus, is creatine. I know many people are familiar with creatine

• 1:22:06Andrew D. Huberman?

  monohydrate for its effects on muscle growth and strength and performance. But it's quite clear that the bulk of scientific studies have examined the role of creatine in the clinical context and as its role in improving cognitive performance. So my read of the literature has led to a practice in which I ingest five grams per day of creatine monohydrate, the sort of standard form that's available in. This is generally available as a powder. That's certainly how I take it. I take the creatine powder. I'll mix it with water or my Athletic Greens or some sort of electrolyte drink, whatever liquid happens to be convenient to ingest that in. The time of day doesn't really seem to be important. Some people are strong believers in consuming creatine. Post-workout, while that might be beneficial, I simply take it in the morning or post-workout.

• 1:22:51Andrew D. Huberman?

  It sort of depends on when I remember to take it. But that five grams of creatine per day, in my case, really isn't geared towards muscle growth, or strength, or performance, as much as geared toward tapping into the creatine phosphate system within the brain, and specifically, the benefits of creatine for prefrontal cortical networks. Again, modulating, not directly mediating, but modulating and generally supporting the brain networks that are going to allow me to generate focus and concentration. So much like sleep, much like omega-3 fatty acids, creatine monohydrate, five grams a day, seems to generally support brain function, which will generally support concentration and focus. Now, in terms of compounds that more specifically mediate concentration and focus, we have

• 1:23:36Andrew D. Huberman?

  to go back to that aro metaphor model that we talked about at the beginning of the episode that included epinephrine, adrenaline, acetylcholine, which acts as this attentional spotlight. In fact, acetylcholine and elevated levels of acetylcholine have been shown over and over again through beautiful work from Mike Merzenick's lab at UCSF, and the Kilgard lab down in Houston, and a number of other labs, including Norm Weinberger's lab at UC Irvine, again, to improve or even directly gate neural plasticity by increasing focus directly. That's a lot of words, Sue, but basically what happens is if acetylcholine transmission is increased, even transiently within the brain, there's a greater opportunity for neural plasticity to take place.

• 1:24:21Andrew D. Huberman?

  And the reason there's a greater opportunity for neural plasticity, aka learning, to take place, is by way of the increased focus that spiking acetylcholine can provide. As I mentioned earlier, there are a number of different foods which contain choline, you can look those up online, choline acting as an amino acid precursor to acetylcholine. But of course, there are compounds, there are supplements that can further and more acutely increase acetylcholine, and indeed, I use these myself. The most effective one I've found is Alpha GPC. Alpha GPC consumed At dosages of 300mg to 600mg prior to a workout or prior to a workout, greatly increase one's ability to focus and concentrate. At least that's been my experience.

• 1:25:03Andrew D. Huberman?

  And there are some good data in humans. So how would I use Alpha GPC? I would use Alpha GPC by taking it about 10 to 20 minutes prior to any time I want to focus or concentrate very deeply. I've taken as much as 600mg at one time, although I find that 300mg is enough for me. And I tend to be quite sensitive to supplements and caffeine in general. So I'll sometimes take it alongside yerba mate or with yerba mate and or with coffee prior to a workout or prior to a bout of work in which I'm focusing on mental work. So it could be reading, writing, could be math, could be data analysis, could be anything where I need a lot of focus and concentration. Now, a number of people have contacted me about a recent study

• 1:25:46Andrew D. Huberman?

  suggesting that Alpha GPC, when taken chronically over many years, could increase one's vulnerability to stroke. I've looked at those data and my read of the data is that they're not very conclusive. Although anytime you see something like that, you know, it's a study that's pointing to the fact that a given compound might increase the propensity for stroke, you obviously want to be concerned. So we have to ask ourselves how, by what mechanism that is, could Alpha GPC be increasing the susceptibility to stroke? And it seems to be related to increases in TMAO, which is a marker related to the cardiovascular system. And one known way to offset increases

• 1:26:26Andrew D. Huberman?

  in TMAO that are associated either with Alpha GPC or increases due to other things. So ingestion of particular food compounds actually can increase TMAO is to offset that by taking 600mg of garlic. Now, I've been taking Alpha GPC pretty consistently for a number of years. I do not take it every day. I would say I take it about four days per week, again, prior to workouts or bouts of cognitive work. I have not seen my TMAO spike and I've evaluated that by way of blood tests. But nonetheless, I take 600mg of garlic in capsule form. Anytime I eat anyway, and I do that for general cardiovascular function, and there's some interesting data on immune system function, et cetera, for garlic.

• 1:27:10Andrew D. Huberman?

  So I've been consuming 600-milligram capsules of garlic for some period of time. Some days I'll ingest just one 600-milligram capsule, other times I'll take two. But based on this recent study and the concerns about TMAO, I make it a point to always ingest a 600-milligram capsule of garlic anytime I take Alpha GPC, which again, for me is about four days per week. So in our model of attention and focus, you can now clearly see why taking Alpha GPC, which increases acetylcholine transmission, would be beneficial for concentration and focus, and why taking it with a double espresso or why taking it with yerba mate would further increase concentration and focus.

• 1:27:51Andrew D. Huberman?

  Because as I mentioned earlier, caffeine is going to increase epinephrine. It's also going to increase the density of dopamine receptors, and the Alpha GPC is going to increase acetylcholine, this spotlighting for cognition, this ability to really amplify the activity of specific neural networks, which is largely what's happening when you're trying to focus and pay attention to something specifically. So if one wants to increase the amount of dopamine transmission in the brain and body for sake of increasing concentration and focus, one of the most efficient ways to do that is by ingestion of the amino acid L-tyrosine. Again, L-tyrosine can be derived from food sources. I invite you to look up those various food sources on the web. Simply go to a web browser and put in foods that contain a lot of L-tyrosine,

• 1:28:34Andrew D. Huberman?

  and you'll get a rich array of choices to select from. But in my case, I use L-tyrosine in capsule form. I will take 500-milligrams of L-tyrosine, 300-milligrams of Alpha GPC, and a cup of coffee. I'm careful to do this early in the day, certainly not after 2:00 or 3:00 PM, because I don't want to diminish my ability to fall and stay asleep that night. Do this early in the day before a workout or before a bout of concentrated mental work. Again, I tend to do this about four days per week, so certainly not every time I sit down to do work. And I should also mention that I still tend to do the behavioral tools. I'll tend to use five minutes of binaural beats or binaural beats throughout the work session. Sometimes do an ice bath or a cold shower before. I don't want to give the impression

• 1:29:20Andrew D. Huberman?

  that I combine every tool that I've talked about today for a given workout. I mean, that would be pretty wild, too. Take a cold shower, pop an L-tyrosine, take an Alpha GPC, drink two espresso, listen to binaural beats. That, to me, seems like a very inefficient way to go about life. In fact, I make it a point to try and use tools to increase my ability to concentrate and focus, but not to combine more than two or three of them at any one time. And when I say two or three, what I mean is I will use supplements like Alpha GPC, L-tyrosine, and caffeine together before certain work bouts. I might use the visual practice of focusing on a given location for a minute before I begin that workout. I might combine those. Then another time, I might take a cold shower prior to doing

• 1:30:04Andrew D. Huberman?

  some work. Other days, I confess, I've slept very well, or my enthusiasm about what I'm about to work on is such that I don't require any of these tools. Again, there's no requirement. There's no pressure to use any of these tools, behavioral supplement-based or otherwise. It's simply a matter of using the tools that are going to allow you to achieve the states you want to achieve and to improve your ability to go into those states without any help at all. And this is what I find particularly attractive about supplements. It's not so much that they put you into the ideal state for that work, and then you accomplish that work, and then you always rely on those supplements. I prefer to look at supplements of the sort that I just described as a route into a deeper trench of focus and concentration

• 1:30:49Andrew D. Huberman?

  that I use as a tool to teach myself to focus and concentrate more deeply, such that I don't need those tools every single time I try and focus and concentrate. I think this is an important point because I think that many people think of supplements as a crutch or a way of simply getting into a state for which no other tool will suffice or replace. But in that context, I want to remind you of the larger context of pharmacology, which is the vast landscape of prescription pharmacology for ADHD, for Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. Now, I covered that landscape in intense detail on the episode on ADHD and focus.

• 1:31:30Andrew D. Huberman?

  And just to summarize, there is, of course, Adderall, Ritalin, Vivance, Modafinil, R-Modafinil, a number of different compounds, all of which generally increase dopamine transmission in the brain, so increasing dopamine, and all of which generally increase epinephrine, adrenaline transmission in the brain and body. And many of those compounds have been of tremendous benefit to children and even some adults who suffer from ADHD. So properly prescribed at the appropriate dosage, those compounds can really help people with clinically diagnosed ADHD. The way they help those people is a bit surprising, however. You might think, well, they turn on the brain chemicals that allow those people to concentrate and focus.

• 1:32:15Andrew D. Huberman?

  That's true, but they also have the benefit of teaching those brain circuits how to engage. And that's one of the reasons why, somewhat paradoxically, giving a stimulant like Ritalin or Adderall to a kid that legitimately needs it, obviously, you don't want to do this without the oversight and careful evaluation of a psychiatrist, but giving that to a kid who has severe ADHD, you would think would make them more rambunctious, less able to focus and more distractible overall. After all, Ritalin, Modafinil, R-Modafinil, all these things are stimulants. So you take a kid who has Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder and give them these drugs that increase transmission of dopamine and epinephrine and think, wow, it's going

• 1:33:00Andrew D. Huberman?

  to make them even more distractible and hyperactive. And indeed, it has the opposite effect. It doesn't necessarily make them feel calm, but it makes them feel that they can focus. They really can anchor their attention. And the idea is that it's teaching those neural circuits, or those neural circuits, rather, are teaching themselves to engage and to focus and concentrate. And the ideal situation is one in which the total dosage of those compounds, those drugs, can be reduced over time as those circuits learn to come online through purely behavioral tools. Now, oftentimes, there's a maintenance of those drugs over long periods of time, although there is a common practice nowadays of trying to diminish the dosage overall. That's in the context of ADHD and prescription medication.

• 1:33:39Andrew D. Huberman?

  And I acknowledge that a lot, indeed, 80% or more of college students, say the statistics, are using prescription drugs when they are not, in fact, prescribe those prescription drugs. So basically, what I'm saying is there are a lot of people using drugs designed for ADHD and narcolepsy because those drugs will effectively increase focus and concentration. But I strongly discourage the use of powerful prescription drugs that have not been prescribed you. First of all, it's illegal. Second of all, it's quite dangerous to hit the accelerator of those neural circuits with such vigor because it can increase dependency and they can have a number of other side

• 1:34:20Andrew D. Huberman?

  effects outside the context of clinically diagnosed and prescribed ADHD medication. But in the context of supplementation, the increase in dopamine, acetocoulane, and epinephrine that one can achieve from, say, 500mg of L-tyrosine, 300mg of alpha-gpc, and a cup of coffee, is going to be substantially less than one would see for prescription drugs. So you're getting a modest effect that can similarly teach those brain circuits for focus and concentration how to engage better. But as a general backdrop to all of this, I always say, and I'll say it again and again, probably until the day I die, which hopefully is a long time from now, but regardless, it'll be the same message.

• 1:35:05Andrew D. Huberman?

  I always believe that behavioral tools should come first. Behavioral tools should come first. Then focus on nutrition. In fact, I would say behavioral and nutrition tools. And of course, get excellent sleep. Then focus on supplementation. And then... And only if those are failing to bring your brain and body to the state you need to be in to perform well in school and work and life, et cetera, do I recommend that people lean on prescription drugs. Now, there's a caveat to that, which is in under conditions like severe eating disorders, obsessive compulsive disorder, bipolar disorder, depression, where people are truly at risk of suicide or severe mental health effects or behavioral

• 1:35:49Andrew D. Huberman?

  health effects, and they're really at their lives are at risk and their overall mood and well-being is at risk. It's often the case that people cannot access the brain states required to shift themselves purely with behavioral tools, nutrition, et cetera. So again, for the typical person who's not suffering from one of the psychiatric disorders that I mentioned before, or other psychiatric disorders, schizophrenia, et cetera, I strongly encourage you to look to behavioral tools first, nutrition, then supplementation, then and only if there's a remaining need to prescription drugs. This contrasts very much with the typical scenario I hear about these days where college students or other people

• 1:36:32Andrew D. Huberman?

  will say, oh, yeah, I hear that there's this drug, you know, Ritalin or Vivant that can immediately put me into a state of heightened focus and concentration. Now, listen, if you have ADHD, by all means, talk to a physician, talk to a great psychiatrist and figure out whether or not that's right for you. But if you don't, again, behavioral tools, nutrition, supplementation, and in particular, those behavioral tools are going to be the ones that are going to allow you to teach your neural circuits how to focus and concentrate better. And I cannot overstate the importance of that, that the behavioral tools and to some extent, the supplementation combined with behavioral tools really allow you to train up your neural circuits so that you can focus and concentrate to the depth and

• 1:37:13Andrew D. Huberman?

  the degree and the duration that's going to best serve your mental and physical goals. Now, there's one other compound that I've used from time to time and that I continue to use in order to increase focus and concentration. And I will use this in combination with the other supplements I talked about before, and that's phenylethylamine. Phenylethylamine is in the dopamine synthesis pathway, so it increases dopamine transmission and tends to function a little bit differently than L-tyrosine. So every once in a while, I'll swap out L-tyrosine and put in 500 milligrams of phenylethylamine, or sometimes if I really want to. Push a little bit harder on the dopamine system. And I'm going to be doing a long bout of intense work.

• 1:37:53Andrew D. Huberman?

  I will take the 300 milligrams of alpha GPC, the 500 milligrams of L-tyrosine. I'll generally take that with some caffeine. And I should mention, I don't go past about 100 or 200 milligrams of caffeine because I don't really like feeling too jittery. That's not really my goal. It's the goal to be alert, but not so alert that I, you know, really can't focus on anything. I'm not interested in having an anxiety attack after all. But I'll sometimes either swap in, or I will add that 500 milligrams of phenylethylamine. Phenylethylamine is in the PEA pathway. I've talked about this in a previous podcast on dopamine, motivation and drive. And it's a very short-lived compound. So what I'll tend to do is take it once at the beginning of the work bout.

• 1:38:35Andrew D. Huberman?

  And sometimes in the middle of the work bout, I'll take another 500 milligram capsule. But what I just described of combining all of those compounds, alpha GPC, L-tyrosine, phenylethylamine and caffeine. That's a fairly rare occurrence that I'll combine all four and really only under conditions in which I have to do an intensely challenging bout of mental or physical work. I would say the frequency at which I combine all four of those things is probably about once every two weeks. And typically more like once a month. Again, being careful to do that in the early part of the day, certainly before the noon hour. So that I am in no way going to disrupt my sleep. I realize that many of you are probably wondering about or hoping that I'll discuss things like lion's mane or the racetams

• 1:39:18Andrew D. Huberman?

  or some of the other compounds that are known to powerfully modulate the dopamine, epinephrine and acetylcholine systems. To be quite direct, there are far too many of these compounds to review in a single episode. And they all generally tap into the same set of processes. Again, epinephrine, that shaft of the arrowhead that we're thinking of as focus. Acetylcholine, which is the arrowhead itself. And then dopamine, which is the sort of propeller behind the arrow that allows it to continually drive forward through a bout of mental or physical work. There is a wonderful site. I've mentioned it several times before on this podcast. That is examine.com. That wonderful site that is examine.com has recently been updated.

• 1:40:02Andrew D. Huberman?

  They've changed their format. It was terrific before. It provided links to relevant studies. It talked about specific compounds. It talked about the magnitude of effect. It talked about the human effect matrix. It really focused on human studies with links to those studies and on and on. The new revamped version of examine.com is even better. It's really next, next level. I really applaud them for doing such a terrific job in organizing the information. There are a lot of interesting pages that you can read there about different compounds. So you could put in any compound, genco, boloba, phosphodillic serine, alpha GPC, and you're going to get a rich array of information about those compounds. And if you were to put in a specific goal state, that is focus, or concentration, or sleep,

• 1:40:45Andrew D. Huberman?

  or hormones like testosterone, etc., you're going to get a rich array of compounds, supplements, as well as links to the studies on those compounds and some details about those particular studies. This is absolutely phenomenal site. It's one that I rely on and that I know thousands, if not millions of other people rely on. And I encourage you to check it out. Again, the URL is examine.com. So today, we've talked about a number of different tools and to some extent, some mechanisms involved in concentration and focus. And really, the goal has been to provide you an understanding of the neurochemical systems and a little bit about the neural circuits that can allow you to achieve states of attention and focus. In contrast to previous episodes

• 1:41:26Andrew D. Huberman?

  of the Huberman Lab Podcast where I've covered these topics in tremendous depth as it relates to mechanism and also focused on tools, today, I largely focused on tools. We talked about behavioral tools, like a meditation that's 13 minutes long, done daily, specifically to improve your ability of focus, and in fact, there are data to support that it will. Talked about hypnosis. We talked about visual focus, overt and cofer. We talked about various supplements such as Alpha GPC, phenylethlyamine, L-tyrosine, supplements that I use to directly modulate the neural circuits for concentration and focus. Also talked about creatine, the omega-3s, talked about the importance of sleep, which modulates our ability to function mentally and physically overall. So optimize that

• 1:42:11Andrew D. Huberman?

  sleep. And we talked about a number of other protocols that you can incorporate. My hope in giving you all this information in one single location is that you will be able to pick and choose which of these protocols you would like to incorporate into your attempts to improve your focus and concentration. Again, I don't recommend doing all of these protocols all at once. What I recommend is picking a handful of them, maybe one or two, maybe three or four, and trying them in different combinations at different times of day and for different purposes, for mental work, for physical work, et cetera. Find what is best for you. Once again, the goal is to teach your brain, that is, to increase neuroplasticity in the neural circuits that allow you not just to focus, but to refocus

• 1:42:54Andrew D. Huberman?

  your attention. And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that it's also critical to be able to defocus. I highly encourage people to take a period of time each day to daydream, to walk down the hall without looking at your phone, to not have to incorporate more sensory information, to not place increasing demands on yourself to focus, and see and realize how having a period of deliberate decompression and defocusing can allow your brain to focus so much better when you do decide to return to a bout of focused, concentrated work or physical work. So I want to thank you for joining me for this discussion about tools for focus and concentration. If you're learning from and are enjoying this podcast,

• 1:43:36Andrew D. Huberman?

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• 1:44:21Andrew D. Huberman?

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• 1:45:04Andrew D. Huberman?

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