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  So the driver that we had today, he always has incredible music playing and I think it's the radio. And I'm like, oh, my song came on again. And then today I spotted that he hits different playlists. So really, he's just like, it's not the radio. He's just juicing you up? He's just making us feel good? Makes us feel good. Cause it's like within a mix enough that it would be like on the radio. And I'm like, oh, sick, I haven't heard this song in a couple of years. I didn't know this was on the radio. Like today, I heard your song, changing, and I was like. No, that was on the radio. I was like, I was on the radio, and I look up, and then he's like, it's like listed our names, and he like changed it. And I was like, it is nice to juice this up, like play our own stuff in the car.

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  This happened the other day with Malte Marie, our daughter. She and I were in the car and there was a playlist. And I think it was one that we made at some point that had all her favorite songs and then a few of our songs mixed in so that she would like get to know our music a bit more. And every time we heard our songs, come on, she'd look over at me and she'd go, is this you?

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  Yeah, she goes, sing it. She wanted me to sing along to it.

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  Sing it, I love it.

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  Basically to prove that it is me, that I can do it.

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  That's great. No, no, we don't listen to this in this house. You sing it in this house.

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  Sing it.

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  I love that.

• 5:23Speaker 01

  We've had a kind of a crazy week.

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  A little bit crazy.

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  We've been getting after it because it was Danilo's birthday.

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  Oh my gosh, yeah.

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  And also my birthday, which I gotta be, I gotta talk about this because I think a lot of folks that listen to our podcasts might relate to this. As a now 34-year-old man, I think it's weird to like get excited about my birthday. And it's because of trauma.

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  You're obviously not a Leo.

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  Yeah, obviously not. But I will acknowledge that I had a thing happen when I was nine where someone like made me feel bad about being excited about my birthday.

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  What happened?

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  It was like a teacher, basically, and I went in, I had this birthday hat, I went to put it on and I came out all excited. And she's like scolded me for making it about myself or something. I was like, okay. And then I basically like never knew why I was embarrassed to tell my birthday. And then I talked to a therapist about it, and like, that's probably it.

• 6:16Speaker 00

  Wow, that's probably it?

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  So it's still with me. I think it's weird to be like, come to my party.

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  Can I, yeah, well, I'm glad that, I'm proud of you then that you wore that birthday hat on the flight over.

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  Yeah. I actually own that company now, the Birthday Hat Company.

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  Yeah, in your face, Edible Arrangements, sponsor too. But I think that's, I think it was a great week and we should celebrate birthdays. It was, it was really good and we didn't drink anything, not a single drop.

• 6:42Speaker 01

  All right, let's get to business. We have an amazing guest today.

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  Such a great guest.

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  Forever.

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  Huge.

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  Really, we've known him for like almost 20 years.

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  You've grown up with him.

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  So did we. And he's just always so much fun to be around and we're all fans. Please give it up for our guest today, Kenan Thompson.

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  Hey, what's going on, man?

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  What's up, my dudes?

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  Congratulations on another season.

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  Oh, thanks, bud.

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  You've been on 52 seasons.

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  Yeah, man, season 52, and I've been there for all 52.

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  It's crazy. That is wild. When you decided to, when you created the idea for SNL, was that something that just kind of came naturally for you?

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  It's crazy, I was like up in Canada where I'm from and I just had a thought to myself. I was watching all of these really funny like improv people, one of them being my dear friend, John Candy. And I just had this thought like, you know, these people just aren't celebrating.

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  And you're like, and I'm gonna bring it to England one day. We are good, man.

• 7:44Speaker 06

  How you feel about those G-men?

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  Oh, yeah. What a week we had.

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  It was a big one.

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  Pretty insane. It's the Super Bowl, you know, we're going to the Super Bowl, it's obvious.

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  Yeah.

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  That's the first text that went out. I think we're winning the Super Bowl.

• 7:57Speaker 01

  They did look like a completely different team to last year, which is great. Coach Harbaugh setting the tone there. We first met you, I think, all the way back in kind of the beginning of our, of our career. When we went on to SNL for the Valentine's Day special back in 08 or 09?

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  09.

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  That's right.

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  Guys were babies.

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  Yeah, we were the first baby performers.

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  Well, you really were.

• 8:27Speaker 01

  You're saying you've always been cool to us?

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  Yes, we have.

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  We've had a chance to work with you at a few different points with our roast on Netflix a couple of years back. Which we were just reminiscing about as being a football, because Kevin had that, that one piece we shot at the SoFi. And he kicked the field goal.

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  It was the only field goal kicked by the team that day.

• 8:45Speaker 06

  First try. Yeah, it was. I mean, who doesn't love you guys, man? You guys have been so nice and cool with me, too. That was like the most ballerific way to ever go to SoFi. Like, that's just you guys' life. You know what I mean? It's casual for you, but for me, that's incredible. Like, you guys were all

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  So fun.

• 9:05Speaker 06

  Secured it up and golf carting through the bottoms of SoFi. And then you get to go out on the field and like kick a field goal in front of the actual fans. Like, come on, man.

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  So when they asked me to do that, I was like, this is setting me up for so much failure. Like, and just to get booed. Dude, I think you guys were supposed to shoot before the game started, but there was delays or something that couldn't get on the field. So they were like, hey, you're gonna do it during halftime. And then you guys run out there, like, it's so much pressure, but you guys delivered. The real story is that they asked all three of us to do it and Joe and I chickened out. Yeah, we both were like, we're not doing that.

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  Yeah, Kev, one that rose to the occasion.

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  He did it.

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  Rose to the occasion.

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  Put me in, coach. Put me in.

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  Long before that, we, um, we watched you on All That, of course, and we were massive fans of yours on that show.

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  And then Good Burger, of course, was, was big for us and in the Jonas household.

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  Of course.

• 9:57Speaker 01

  To see you then make that jump, you know, for all, all your fans that, that grew up watching you, make the jump to be on SNL. How many years ago was it?

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  2003, I wanna say.

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  Oh, my God. That's so cool.

• 10:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, so to see that and having, having that, that foundation of fans who grew up watching you, it was really such an exciting moment. I think we all felt a part of it, you know, because we got to watch you and, and experience kind of your, your early projects. Now, do you, do you hear from fans a lot about All That and Good Burger and all those projects?

• 10:27Speaker 06

  Yeah, they say similar things. They say it's like, Joe, when you got on SNL, it's like we all got on SNL.

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  Yeah.

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  No, because like, we just like all grew up together, basically. So, and the work that we did, you know, is, is so beloved because we were having such a good time that it's like echoed through generations. So I just hear a lot of people like, yo, I watched you as a kid. Now I turn my kids on to it and they love it and blah, blah, blah. So, I don't know, it's just, it's all a blessing for me that all those memories are very, very positive. And we just had such a good time and made like lifelong friends, you know? And then, yeah, the jump to SNL has just been, you know, an incredible bridge between, you know, child and adult performers. You know how that is, you know what I mean? I know you guys, did you guys have like a real like turning point where you're like,

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  I don't wanna do, you know, a certain kind of younger sound anymore? I wanna do more of a mature sound. Was there ever like a crossroads kind of moment?

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  Definitely. I think for all of us, I have separate points and I think in our careers, for Nick and I, we did solo albums and that was when we were like, like, oh, I wanna, I wanna write something that's a bit more sexier or whatever. You're going through early, you know, your early twenties trying to figure out who you are and that leap of faith and thinking, okay, I'm gonna change it up a lot musically. And then I think bringing that as well as our fan base has grown up with us, like you said earlier, like, um, for yourself, it's similar where, where we were watching our audiences. Like, well, we can't, it's not, it's not like cute first date stuff anymore. This is like relationship kind of stuff you wanna speak to and, and where you're at in your life. Real quick, I'm just curious, what was your, what was your audition like for SNL?

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  Oh, man. I did impressions. I did my best versions of things. I mean, I can, you know, mimic some people, like I do a decent like Charles Barkley and a, a pretty good like Sharpton and stuff like that. So I tried Al Sharpton talking to Arnold Schwarzenegger just because I feel like, you know, everybody can do a Schwarzenegger. But yeah, it was all over the place because I'm, I consider myself an actor. You know what I mean? I'm not really a stand-up comic, but I had to do stand-up comedies for like, you know, five minutes or whatever. But it was very much like an actor's version of doing stand-up. Like, I didn't even address the audience that was in front of me and stuff like that. It was just a very different kind of thing.

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  It was more like a, you know, kind of kid playing in the mirror kind of stuff.

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  Sure.

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  And just, you know, doing sketches or whatever, like to myself, basically.

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  But yeah, it was really, really scary. You know what I mean? Because it's such a make or break moment for your career. It's just one of those things like, yeah, if you don't get it, it's not necessarily the end of the road, but it's something that lives with you for forever. So I just wanted to like be a positive version of that, even if I only stayed a year or whatever. So it was just a very stressful audition. It was a stressful like three weeks or something like that.

• 13:28Speaker 01

  Do you, do you feel like your early success helped or hurt your chances of, of getting on the cast?

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  I think it helped because it just helped people's confidence that I could do the job as long as I'm not responsible for the job. You know what I mean? Because I've never really had to write necessarily. So, um, I didn't really understand that part of the responsibility of being an SNL cast member. But, you know, you learn on the fly and there's a lot of, you know, other writers there that you can collaborate, collaborate with. And like, not everybody writes, you know what I mean? Like, some cast members are like myself. They're better off kind of, you know, improvising and then people take notes. And then, you know, they go write the sketches and I perform the sketches when it's table read time kind of thing.

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  Yeah.

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  You know, I, I think it was an assist that I, I had some experience.

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  Yeah.

• 14:20Speaker 01

  So is it hard for you guys to transition? Like, we, we kind of have this when we come off a tour. So like, when you guys are done with the full season, like, do you guys like do a come down afterwards? Like, is it like weirdly different for you from a schedule perspective? Because obviously it's a grind doing the show every week.

• 14:35Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's like going from like 200 miles an hour to like seven.

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  It is, it's jarring.

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  Luckily, like my kids are still in school, so that kind of pattern stays the same for like a third, you know, few weeks or whatever. But it, it is definitely like, oh, snap, all of a sudden like I'm off work. And then my earlier years, that was when you would like jump into a movie or something. So you would just go from work to work.

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  Right, just keep going.

• 15:01Speaker 06

  Yeah, now I can kind of choose to relax the schedule or something if I want to kind of thing. So that's nice.

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  All right, who started drinking Almond Breeze almond milk first?

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  Actually, I think that was you, Nick.

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  I think it was.

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  Yeah, you're like, you know, guys, I tried this almond breeze in my coffee today.

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  Changed the game for me.

• 15:43Speaker 00

  All right, who's the most likely to finish the last carton of almond breeze and not replace it?

• 15:47Speaker 01

  That's Kevin.

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  Kevin, of course.

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  Yeah.

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  That's someone else's job.

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  Take it, Kev.

• 15:51Speaker 00

  What's the most random place you drank almond breeze?

• 15:54Speaker 01

  The last time I visited the Empire State Building.

• 15:56Speaker 00

  Ah, that's a random place for sure. I've noticed you guys really like almond breeze almond milk. Who has the most specific way of drinking it? Ooh.

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  Kevin's, you know what's what I found very interesting is how you will drink a carton to yourself.

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  Yeah, straight up the dump.

• 16:11Speaker 01

  And he usually does it before show.

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  Yeah, just really getting myself going.

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  He needs it on stage.

• 16:16Speaker 00

  Okay, last question. Why do you guys like almond breeze so much? Oh, it just tastes great. It's a great alternative.

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  It is great.

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  It's simply because it's really good.

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  True.

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  Try almond breeze, trust us, it's really good. You've probably heard that good things come in threes. No, I've never heard that.

• 16:30Speaker 01

  Kevin.

• 16:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, you have. You've got bacon, lettuce, tomato, rock, paper, scissors.

• 16:35Speaker 01

  Joe, Nick, Kevin.

• 16:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, and that, that is a good one. Or because it's cold season, Kleenex lotion tissues. There's no three in Kleenex tissues. That's where you're wrong, Kev, my friend. Listen, Kleenex lotion tissues have three-in-one skin-loving benefits. It protects hands, soothes and moisturizes your skin. I never realized you were so into skincare, Joe.

• 16:56Speaker 01

  Come on, who doesn't love to moisturize?

• 16:58Speaker 00

  You've got a good point. Oh, and don't forget to tell them about the three thick layers made with coconut oil and aloe.

• 17:03Speaker 01

  Wow, good things really do come in threes.

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  For whatever happens next, grab Kleenex.

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  Not only is today's episode sponsored by Edible Arrangements, they are also bringing us our first bowl question.

• 17:44Speaker 01

  Oh, we're doing the bowl?

• 17:45Speaker 00

  We're doing the bowl.

• 17:46Speaker 01

  All right, let's get into it.

• 17:48Speaker 00

  Okay, the question is, what's your chocolate dipped move to show up for someone's birthday?

• 17:53Speaker 01

  That's weirdly specific.

• 17:55Speaker 00

  Feels like there's only really one right answer for this one.

• 17:58Speaker 01

  Edible?

• 17:58Speaker 00

  Edible! I mean, Nick did famously send an arrangement to Bob Iger.

• 18:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, sure.

• 18:03Speaker 00

  So you know it's good. And they've got a lot more than fresh fruit. Birthday arrangements, baked goods, flowers.

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  Chocolate dipped treats.

• 18:10Speaker 00

  A lot of options.

• 18:12Speaker 01

  And if somebody's birthday sneaks up on you.

• 18:14Speaker 00

  Uh-oh. They've got delivery today, tomorrow, or even in an hour. Which is great because Kevin's birthday is coming up. Real soon.

• 18:21Speaker 01

  Very soon.

• 18:22Speaker 00

  I'm getting an arrangement, aren't I?

• 18:24Speaker 01

  Yep, we kind of have to.

• 18:25Speaker 00

  Uh, you know, I'm okay with that. All right, we just answered our first ever edible question. We don't typically like puns, Joe. But we'll allow it for edible. So if you wanna show up with something thoughtful this birthday, edible's the move. Order yours today at edible.com.

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• 19:10Speaker 01

  Well, season 52, as you mentioned before, kicks off this Saturday. And you've got a pretty crazy lineup for the first couple of hosts and musical guests. The first episode being New York Nick champion, Jalen Brunson, of course.

• 19:24Speaker 00

  So awesome.

• 19:25Speaker 01

  Let's go.

• 19:26Speaker 06

  Let's go.

• 19:27Speaker 00

  What a crazy year for New York.

• 19:29Speaker 01

  And Cat's Eye, who are having just a crazy moment as well.

• 19:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, shout out, shout out to Cat's Eye, shout out to K-pop, all of it.

• 19:37Speaker 01

  Do athletes generally make good hosts, you think?

• 19:39Speaker 06

  I guess percentage wise, no, but there are also those gems, like the Jordan show was great.

• 19:47Speaker 00

  Mannings.

• 19:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, Peyton Manning was great, you know? Andy Roddick even had a good show, like, you know, Buckley, of course, so.

• 19:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, the Manning, the Manning brothers are always hilarious, too.

• 20:00Speaker 06

  So, you know, as long as they come to play and they don't come to like be cool.

• 20:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:05Speaker 06

  You know, being cool is not helpful.

• 20:07Speaker 01

  Also, the thing they'd say, I remember when I was, you know, fortunate enough to get to host, be musical guest. They really stress to you on, on the monologue at the beginning and just throughout the show to talk slower than you think you need to talk. Cause your heart starts racing and the, you know, doors open, you come downstairs.

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  Let me get through this.

• 20:23Speaker 01

  And you're just trying not to flub a word, but also everything feels like it's moving a lot faster than it actually is. And you just have to settle into it.

• 20:31Speaker 06

  That's exactly kind of how the audition felt, you know what I mean? Just you'd want to just get through it kind of thing. But they're good at like helping people like calm down and do it right for your own benefit sake. You know what I mean?

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  Oh, yeah.

• 20:46Speaker 06

  Once you feel that first laugh, it's like, oh, this is working. You know what I mean? And I can just like relax and like read it.

• 20:51Speaker 01

  One of my favorite sketches from, from that episode was the one we did with Adi Bryant, where she was the mouse. And she, she was basically Cinderella, but she was a mouse and she lost her shoe.

• 21:05Speaker 01

  I remember doing the rehearsal and both of us were like, this is either gonna work and be really funny or just bomb.

• 21:11Speaker 00

  Sometimes my favorite things are watching, especially you, when something just doesn't work, but you guys internally are just like, from, from my perspective, you guys are loving it. Cause you're like, well, we tried, we tried. We're here, we have to finish the sketch, we can't stop now.

• 21:27Speaker 06

  It's my favorite thing in the world, only because it's like, what else are you gonna do? You know what I'm saying?

• 21:33Speaker 00

  Can't get any better. If this is as good as it's gonna go, yeah.

• 21:37Speaker 06

  We are out here. So like, when it's, when things bomb or like, we tell a joke and we're expecting a laugh and you get silence. It's hilarious. Like, that is hilarious. Like, yes, it's embarrassing, of course, but like, how could we be so on different pages with our expectation and the audience?

• 21:57Speaker 01

  Has there ever been a sketch that worked in the, the dress and then just bombed in the, the real show?

• 22:04Speaker 06

  Yeah, that weirdly happens a lot. Like, you know, just different audiences have, you know, different mindsets or different placements in the show. Creates different momentum or, you know, just.

• 22:14Speaker 01

  Oh, that's interesting.

• 22:15Speaker 06

  Like weird, like weird factors that are kind of out of your control. So I try to like, you know, pass the message along, like, don't try to get overly attached to the outcome of this. Just enjoy whatever's happening in the moment. And like, that's kind of the beauty of a live show, you know what I mean? Like you can embrace the accident, you know what I'm saying?

• 22:37Speaker 01

  Sure, of course.

• 22:38Speaker 06

  It's, it's a good time if you can get out of your head and get out of your panic.

• 22:43Speaker 00

  Speaking of advice, I'm sure you get approached by a lot of different actors, comedians, people that are trying out probably going for that audition. That's terrifying that they dream of or hope to achieve an opportunity like that. What's the advice you'd give to somebody that's the comic that's literally listening today?

• 23:01Speaker 06

  Yeah, I mean, Michael Jackson said it best. He was like, if you're prepared, you have no reason to be nervous. Another phrase of a lot easier said than done kind of thing. Because we're talking about perfectionist kind of people. So, you know, not everybody is rehearsing as much, especially comedy or, you know, improv comedy or sketch comedy. You know what I mean? Like unless you're a grounding or part of the upright sit against citizens brigade or, you know, second city or something like that. You're probably not getting those reps that are similar to what it's like to do the show. So you're probably going to be nervous and I would just say embrace those nerves and maybe turn it into energy.

• 23:42Speaker 06

  But also try to make sure that you do have a blueprint for where your laughs are supposed to be. And then if they don't come in those moments, those are opportunities to kind of point that out, which will lead to new unexpected laughs.

• 23:56Speaker 00

  That's great advice. That's awesome.

• 23:58Speaker 06

  This is the adult world, you know, we're not in, you know, elementary school where people can wake you up and get you to school. You gotta go yourself kind of thing. So that's how it is.

• 24:07Speaker 00

  Get to work.

• 24:07Speaker 06

  Where you guys are at, like you're in your, what, late twenties, thirties?

• 24:13Speaker 00

  Thank you for that. That was, that was great.

• 24:15Speaker 01

  Now, mid thirties, yeah, just about.

• 24:19Speaker 00

  Damn near 40.

• 24:21Speaker 06

  It's on you to kind of like get the train rolling whenever you feel like it's time to like do another thing kind of thing to like, Joe Bro brand going, it's kind of like in your laps. So like, how do you guys kind of navigate when it feels good to kind of do something or?

• 24:39Speaker 00

  I think it's, yeah, it's exactly that. When it feels good, you keep going. I mean, I, I think we were laughing because sometimes it feels like when we're announcing a tour, they're like, online, they're like, these guys are on tour, they owe somebody something. And for us, we're like, or we, when it's good, you keep going.

• 25:00Speaker 00

  Turns out we like to do this? Yeah, it's like, yeah, and the concern is when people are not showing up, that's when you're like, damn, okay, well, maybe we should take a break. But I think we, A, more than anything, and I'm sure it's, you, you would probably say the same thing. When you love something, you, you're so excited to show up to work and how grateful and lucky are we that we could do what we love for a living? There's a lot of people out there doing something to hopefully have that opportunity to step out and do something else. But, you know, and then also like, yeah, there is an amazing feeling as being a performer and a creative. Where you can go cook something up and then put it out there and people are receptive or you see how it affects them in a positive way. Or even just makes them laugh or makes them smile. You're like, all right, that's, that's what I'm here for.

• 25:42Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 25:43Speaker 00

  And of course, all the money.

• 25:46Speaker 06

  Yeah, of course, the moolah, we love it.

• 25:50Speaker 00

  Feed me. Hold on, I got a good one for that.

• 25:55Speaker 00

  Oh my God, that's my favorite character ever.

• 25:58Speaker 06

  Where's my tub?

• 25:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, where's your tub?

• 26:00Speaker 06

  But I guess my bigger question is, is it stressful at all to like, do you feel like the burden? Cause like, Harry says he worries when he's not on tour kind of thing, you know what I'm saying?

• 26:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:11Speaker 06

  Like, it's like, am I doing enough or am I going to survive or whatever?

• 26:15Speaker 00

  I think we, you know, luckily, there's a lot of other stuff that we do, you know, outside of music. But, you know, really to that point, I think as the older we get, the, the goal is like a quiet morning with our kids and being able to work hard so we can just chill. And that morning could probably be a week or a month or whatever it is, but you know, to have that feeling where we're like, okay, that's the goal. I want to be able to enjoy that holiday and vacation. I want to know that I have around Christmas off, whatever it is. And you protect those moments with our, even though we're family, it's like we, the family stuff together. Like we gotta go do that outside of the workplace to remind ourselves like, all right, we're human beings too. We gotta have that time.

• 26:57Speaker 06

  Shout out to your fans, man, because they've been with you for what, when was your first album? Oh.

• 27:04Speaker 00

  Oh, six.

• 27:05Speaker 01

  Oh, six.

• 27:05Speaker 06

  Oh, six.

• 27:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:06Speaker 01

  Twenty years.

• 27:07Speaker 00

  Six.

• 27:08Speaker 06

  A full dub, congratulations on the happy anniversary. That's amazing.

• 27:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's been, it's been incredible, you know, we have been seeing so many phases and so many, you know, versions of ourselves as we've grown through it too, which is so cool. And I think probably for the same for you, like, was it really, was it challenging going from, you know, Nickelodeon to SNL? Like obviously you had time in between, but like, was it, was there things that you brought from that moment to SNL as well? That you felt like you had to like kind of let go of while you were doing the process of, you know, of becoming someone new?

• 27:39Speaker 06

  Yeah, it does feel a little bit like two different lives, a little bit, you know what I mean? Like my childhood existence was kind of filled with normalcy. And then, you know, later into like turning into 15 and 16, you're kind of turning into an adult. And that's when I started like really working, working. So like, that's kind of when everything seemed to be like a different version of life kind of thing. Because all of a sudden it was like going from just a kid in the south side of Atlanta and like a very, you know, kind of tight knit community to like the world, basically, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, all of a sudden, like I'm making money, you know?

• 28:25Speaker 06

  And I get to like have all these apartments and rental cars and like just showing up to all these different experiences and like meeting famous. And it just, just seems like two different lives, you know, like one life just surrounded by famous people and people that I've seen on my television all my life and never thought that I would ever get close to. And then the other life is like, yeah, just a little kid, you know, a little brother, someone's, you know, baby child kind of thing. So what did I bring along from the Nickelodeon days? Just professionalism, you know, like showing up on time and that kind of stuff. And like kind of knowing what I'm supposed to be doing once it's set in stone or whatever.

• 29:08Speaker 06

  But I think my main thing that I enjoyed, like that I've always had is kind of like, you know, a bold naivete, basically, about how good I either am or am not. Like it kind of never really mattered to me for some reason. Like I just always kind of felt like I was going and going to be where I was supposed to be. So if I was supposed to be in Mighty Ducks or I was supposed to be in heavyweights or I was supposed to be in all that and Kenan and Kell. It just felt like, it all felt like it was supposed to be like SNL was like the one kind of like holy, you know, S H I T kind of moment.

• 29:49Speaker 01

  We just watched Mighty Ducks. I went through the.

• 29:51Speaker 00

  whole trilogy with my, my daughters recently and they it's like they, they hold up so good. Like it's insane how good those movies are. They're unbelievable.

• 30:00Speaker 01

  Mighty Ducks. All right. Let's talk sports. Favorite sports team. Like, doesn't matter which sport.

• 30:06Speaker 06

  Across the board, I'm from Atlanta, so we are Falcons, Braves, Hawks. And then as that, yeah, I have my, you know, affinities towards like all the other teams, but I'm a football fan first and then basketball and then baseball and then hockey. I guess.

• 30:22Speaker 01

  Okay. And then famously in Good Burger, of course. So best burger you've had in New York City?

• 30:29Speaker 06

  There's a few. Five Guys is pretty strong as far as like franchise.

• 30:34Speaker 00

  They deliver.

• 30:35Speaker 06

  But there's a place called JG Melons that's on the Upper.

• 30:40Speaker 00

  They opened for like a week in the West Village and then it didn't work out, but. Down by, yeah. Yeah.

• 30:46Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 30:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:47Speaker 06

  Yeah. That was a good spot because that was for us downtown.

• 30:50Speaker 00

  I know. But yeah, I guess if you're doing SNL and you want to take a little, and they're open late. They're open pretty late, like two, three in the morning some days.

• 30:57Speaker 06

  It was like the first place someone showed me that was like, you need to know this place.

• 31:01Speaker 00

  It's, it's, yeah. And you have to, if you're visiting New York, you gotta drive up there and experience it. It's nothing fancy. It hits different.

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• 31:39Speaker 00

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• 31:40Speaker 01

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• 31:41Speaker 00

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• 31:45Speaker 01

  Changed the game for me. All right. Who's the most likely to finish the last carton of almond breeze and not replace it?

• 31:50Speaker 00

  That's Kevin.

• 31:51Speaker 01

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• 31:52Speaker 00

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• 31:57Speaker 00

  The last time I visited the Empire State Building.

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• 32:06Speaker 00

  Ooh, um, Kevin's, you know what? So I've found very interesting is how you will drink a carton to yourself. Yeah, just strapped it down. And he usually does it before show. Yeah, just really getting myself going. He needs it on stage.

• 32:19Speaker 01

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• 33:41Speaker 00

  Oh, we're doing the bowl?

• 33:42Speaker 01

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• 33:43Speaker 00

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• 33:51Speaker 01

  Feels like there's only really one right answer for this one.

• 33:54Speaker 00

  Edible.

• 33:54Speaker 01

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• 33:55Speaker 00

  I mean, Nick did famously send an arrangement to Bob Iger. Yeah, sure.

• 33:59Speaker 01

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• 34:14Speaker 01

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• 34:18Speaker 00

  I'm getting an arrangement, aren't I?

• 34:20Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 34:21Speaker 00

  We kind of have to. Uh, you know, I'm okay with that.

• 34:23Speaker 01

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• 34:26Speaker 00

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• 34:28Speaker 01

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• 36:03Speaker 01

  Keenan, we've got some voicemails from some of our listeners asking us for advice on things that we are, are, we have no business giving advice on. If you join us, we'd be thrilled and happy.

• 36:13Speaker 00

  And keep asking advice. So we'd love your assistance in this.

• 36:16Speaker 06

  Put our heads together, man. Let's hear it.

• 36:18Speaker 00

  Let's hear it. Hey brothers, this is Darlene from San Diego. Um, our friends and I are doing a fantasy football draft fantasy football league, if you will.

• 36:28Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 36:29Speaker 00

  And we can only draft based on looks and headshots of the players. So no football knowledge must be or is accepted. So which and who would be your first three picks for a quarterback, running back and a tight end solely based on looks and headshots? Nothing else. Uh, curious to know you guys' picks and so you guys can also help me with my draft. Actually named my team Bing Bing Bong. So that's all. Looking forward to hearing from you guys. Bye. Is the tight end part of the draft, the headshot, just the actual tight end? Just like the picture of their ass?

• 37:08Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 37:09Speaker 00

  Kevin, what's that?

• 37:10Speaker 01

  Tight end.

• 37:11Speaker 00

  Tight end. Um.

• 37:12Speaker 01

  We're just sitting on that joke. Just.

• 37:14Speaker 00

  I like it. All right. Who's, who's our QB? Who are we assisting? Jackson Dart. Yeah, but I don't know. There's another handsome.

• 37:24Speaker 06

  I mean, to that, like, in case you don't really have a list of names, it'd be just, just look at the necks. If the necks look thick and sturdy, no with that.

• 37:39Speaker 00

  Look for the neck. Thick neck, add your team. That's a good advice right there.

• 37:45Speaker 06

  My Jackson's ginormous neck, you know?

• 37:49Speaker 00

  That's true. He's got to play well.

• 37:50Speaker 01

  You know what that means.

• 37:52Speaker 06

  Very clear.

• 37:55Speaker 01

  All right. So that's our advice. We're saying, look at the neck.

• 37:57Speaker 00

  Look at the necks. Just focus on the neck. I like that. That says a lot about them. Yeah. Next traps. Okay.

• 38:03Speaker 01

  Kenan, all of our guests, we asked them to pull a question from our bowl of questions here. Since you're on Zoom, I'm going to pull one for you and we'll read it out. It has nothing to do with your life or career. It's just.

• 38:13Speaker 00

  Just a fun question.

• 38:13Speaker 01

  Random stuff.

• 38:16Speaker 01

  Have you ever seen a ghost? If not, would you like to?

• 38:18Speaker 06

  I feel like I've seen versions of apparitions and know, I say it a lot when I used to like be sort of like a latchkey eighties kids. Cause my mom was an overnight nurse and I used to spend a lot of nights, you know, kind of at home by myself later in high school. I would always say like, before I cut the lights off to go to bed, like, I don't want to see any ghosts.

• 38:42Speaker 00

  Which is, which I feel like is inviting them to come around, to be honest. Like, I feel like.

• 38:47Speaker 06

  It's a double edged sword. I feel you.

• 38:50Speaker 00

  Maybe they're like, okay, you know, he's got a point. We respect it.

• 38:53Speaker 06

  But yeah, I've seen like shadows and stuff, but yeah, not, I haven't seen like an actual like ghost from the movie Ghostbusters. Like where I can like recognize someone. Thank God.

• 39:04Speaker 00

  Have you guys ever seen one? Joe, Nick? Yes. Oh, yeah.

• 39:07Speaker 06

  Really?

• 39:07Speaker 00

  I rented a house, I rented a house in LA and me and my two roommates, we all had different experiences. Like my experience, I was asleep. It was our buddy's birthday. That following day I had to work the next morning. So I went to bed responsibly. And I hear the door open, the alarm go off. I hear the like turn off the alarm. Like there's laughter in the kitchen. Something falls over and breaks. And then I hear footsteps down to their room and like it stops. It was really quick. And I was like, should I go up? I'm awake. It's midnight, 12:30. I'm like, should I go in there and say happy birthday? I was, I'll wait till the morning. So like 8:00 AM, I'm like, I don't care. Is he sleeping? I'm just going to go kick the door down and say happy birthday and the bed's made.

• 39:45Speaker 00

  I'm like, that's strange. Maybe it was the other roommate. So I'm like, kind of freaked out now. I'm like, that's weird. So I go to the, and I like politely knocked to our other roommate and I opened the door and the bed's made too. And I'm like, what the? I'm like, I heard, I definitely heard somebody. And so I go in the kitchen. So sure enough, there was something that like a glass that was knocked over that broke. So it's just like weird stuff. And I called them like, this, this is kind of crazy. And then our roommate had, we all had different experiences in the house and would see things occasionally and like just spooky stuff. So, and we shot a music video in the, was it Queen? What's the, what's the boat off of LA?

• 40:20Speaker 01

  Oh, the Queen Mary.

• 40:21Speaker 00

  Queen Mary. We had, and we, it's a haunted boat. And we shot a music video for SOS, our song there. And we stayed the night, like they had the option of staying the night because we had an early morning. They're like, you guys can stay on the boat because it's a working hotel as well, but it's like a haunted hotel. Yeah. It's a terrible idea. Whoever said we should do that. I remember seeing like this lady walking down the hallway when they, and I, and she was terrifying. Like it was, she was very tall, pale and wearing this black dress and was walking past me. And then I asked somebody like, is there anyone else staying? They're like, no, no, we rented the place out for you guys. And I was like, well, I just saw somebody walk by me and that person, that person, yeah, stuff like that.

• 40:58Speaker 01

  And they're like, sir, you're not allowed to smoke weed on this boat.

• 41:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:03Speaker 01

  This is California.

• 41:04Speaker 06

  I couldn't even handle it. Like I wouldn't know what to do. Like those people that see apparitions and they like hair goes white.

• 41:12Speaker 00

  Nope.

• 41:12Speaker 06

  Or they just like freeze and like they melt and have heart attacks. That's, that's me.

• 41:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm good on that.

• 41:18Speaker 06

  Yeah, no, thanks.

• 41:19Speaker 01

  Uh, Kenan, thank you so much for coming on today.

• 41:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, seriously. Thank you so much.

• 41:22Speaker 01

  Exciting season of SNL. It's always good to see you.

• 41:25Speaker 06

  My pleasure. It's good to see you guys.

• 41:27Speaker 00

  Good to see you, man.

• 41:28Speaker 01

  Good to see you.

• 41:29Speaker 00

  Good to see you, New York. That's a lot.

• 41:30Speaker 06

  Let's go to a game or something. I'm waiting.

• 41:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, let's do it. Let's go.

• 41:33Speaker 06

  Right? All right.

• 41:35Speaker 00

  All right.

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