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  Yeah, straight out the dome.

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  Yeah, just really getting myself going.

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• 2:14Speaker 00

  Jonas.

• 2:15Speaker 02

  Well, hello, guys.

• 2:17Speaker 01

  Here we are, what a week it's been, Kev.

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  It's been something.

• 2:21Speaker 01

  People really, uh...

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  Delete the thread!

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  People have been talking.

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  Yes, they have.

• 2:27Speaker 02

  Oh, man.

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  It's our first kind of major viral moment on the pod. We've had, we've had...

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  We've had moments.

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  Moments.

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  But this was, that's something, huh?

• 2:37Speaker 01

  It's just unfortunate that the New York Giants have banned us from ever coming to any more games.

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  Just Kevin. How do you feel being, being a celebrity now?

• 2:45Speaker 02

  It's so different, my life is so different.

• 2:48Speaker 00

  Guys, it's Halloween like in days.

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  What are you gonna be doing for Halloween?

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  I am going to be with my kiddos.

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  Oh.

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  Somebody in London, fly back. This is, this is kind of a crazy travel day, but I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna be with my kiddos, and then I'm gonna get on the plane, I'm gonna fly to New York, and then I'm gonna take my godson and goddaughter trick or treating.

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  Fantastic.

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  Fantastic.

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  And then I'm gonna get on a plane the next day and we're gonna fly to Milwaukee?

• 3:17Speaker 01

  Yes, Milwaukee. I'm going home to LA.

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  Nice, right? Trick or treating, big trick or treating day.

• 3:22Speaker 01

  I'm doing a Diwali party.

• 3:24Speaker 00

  Oh, that's gonna be, dude, the guest list is stacked.

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  Stacked.

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  Nick's got [BLEEP] coming with a new girlfriend, and he's got [BLEEP]. Big celeb guest list.

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  Lot of big guests. Big guest list. I'm going back for that.

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  Bring your autograph books.

• 3:39Speaker 01

  And then I'm gonna take multi-marie, uh, trick or treating early on the 30th, because she and Priyanka are flying to Australia, because Priyanka's starting a new movie.

• 3:48Speaker 02

  Wow.

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  So she's gonna fly on the 31st or first?

• 3:51Speaker 01

  She flies on the 31st.

• 3:52Speaker 00

  Hmm, fun.

• 3:55Speaker 01

  It's gonna be a spooky flight.

• 3:57Speaker 00

  I bet she said that, didn't she?

• 3:59Speaker 01

  She's doing a movie called Blue Fly with Russell Crowe.

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  Oh.

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  Oh, this is, it's gonna be sick.

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  Can't wait for that.

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  Russell Crowe, bro.

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  She's been studying her script, because she plays a, uh, international translator.

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  Cool.

• 4:16Speaker 01

  So she's gotta speak like seven or eight different languages in the movie.

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  Casual.

• 4:19Speaker 01

  She's incredible, she blows me away.

• 4:21Speaker 02

  That's great.

• 4:22Speaker 01

  Um, anyway, I'm gonna miss them, but I get to see them for two days before they go, and then we come back on tour and...

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  Lovely.

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  It's great.

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  Kevin, what about you?

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  Very exciting, you know, big day, Halloween trick or treating.

• 4:32Speaker 01

  It's your daughter's birthday!

• 4:34Speaker 02

  It's daughter's birthday! That's right, it was just her birthday. Um, but we're gonna go kart racing, which is great. Then we're going trick or treating, but last night, we got like mischief night by our oldest daughter, she was at a sleepover.

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  Oh, I saw you doing that, it looked like a lot of stuff to clean up.

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  Yeah, it's all biodegradable. So yes, our house got toilet papered by our daughter, who lives out the house.

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  Is she cleaning this up, or are you...

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  I did in fact say, if you're gonna do it, you're gonna have to clean it up.

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  Yeah, it's good for her.

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  But it was fun, we had a really good time, we shot off some confetti cannons and stuff.

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  That's fun.

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  Yeah, and then, uh, on the 31st, uh, we're doing a virtual concert with a game on Roblox, which is cool.

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  Us as a brothers.

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  You've never been more excited about anything we've ever done.

• 5:15Speaker 02

  Can I put it this way? I always get on one tangent, and this is my one tangent, and I get really anxious and really nervous that I'm gonna push this thing forward and it becomes a thing, because I'm trying to make sure it goes well, and it becomes like my thing to own, and I feel pressure for it to go well, and so I don't mean for it to be a thing I talk about a lot, but...

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  Yes.

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  I've taken ownership of it and I want it to be good, and sometimes that requires like making sure...

• 5:38Speaker 01

  I think you, you would like us to also be...

• 5:41Speaker 02

  No, I just don't want to make you guys be annoyed by it, the requests that are coming in, knowing it came more through me.

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  Well, I think it's gonna be amazing, just for the record.

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  It's gonna be great.

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  Yes. Roblox, big fans.

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  Steal the egg.

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  Steal the egg.

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  Steal an egg.

• 5:54Speaker 01

  Kevin should be an executive at your company.

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  I'm just gonna make my own games.

• 5:58Speaker 01

  We got Halloween, we got a very special guest on the pod today.

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  One of our best friends.

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  One of our very best friends, he's like a brother to us at this point.

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  On the Halloween episode.

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  Please welcome JP Sacks.

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  JP Sacks!

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  JP Sacks on the pod!

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  It's our best friend JP Sacks!

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  New album.

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  Piano guy.

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  Okay, piano guy, out now.

• 6:18Speaker 03

  That was so well edited.

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  Yeah, look at that, he's got the soundboard ready to go.

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  This is impressive.

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  You're on the Halloween episode, this is official Halloween episode, because technically Halloween's Saturday.

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  I can't wait.

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  What, do you have any plans?

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  Yes, I'm doing some shows in Toronto, we're gonna do a theme, we're all gonna dress up as our favorite characters from songs, I'm will be piano man.

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  Fantastic. Wearing a piano?

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  Just the Billy Joel suit.

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  We went to your album release party last night, I should say, Joe and I did. Kevin went back to be with his family, which is the right thing to do. Lots of fun, great spot, is that, oh, he's looking for the pound there, Kevin.

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  Sorry, buddy.

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  Is that, is that where you're doing the shows?

• 6:55Speaker 03

  That is where I'm doing the shows, Dina's Tavern here in Toronto.

• 6:57Speaker 01

  Fantastic, it was a good vibe at the release party. And so thrilled for you, this is a huge moment, your, your new album is out, go check it out if you haven't already. Our history goes back basically a year-ish, year and a half.

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  Year and a bit, year and a half.

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  You've become like family to us, and we're glad to have you on the pod, it's long overdue.

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  First time we ever hung out, we also hung out with your father.

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  Yeah, he'll be here tonight.

• 7:20Speaker 02

  Fantastic, your dad is so cool.

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  So, life update, you've, you've moved back to Toronto, or you got a place here?

• 7:27Speaker 03

  Yes, I have, I have some roots, I've not had a home in Toronto since I was 17 years old, 18 years old, when I moved to Los Angeles, and every time I'd come back to Toronto, I'd stay in hotel rooms, because both of my parents had, uh, places that were too small for me to sleep in. So this is the first time in my life where I get to like come back to Toronto as an adult and stay in a spot with my dad, and it's been very sentimental and beautiful, and I'm very grateful for it.

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  It's great.

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  Well deserved.

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  Lots of family moments.

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  Welcome home.

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  And I mean, y'all feel like family to me too, in so many different ways, y'all have, even like this album that I just put out, would not have been made in the way I made it if it had not been meeting the three of you and making music with you, because I really tried to emulate the way we made music at our first camp in New York in the making of this album.

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  The September camp.

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  The September camp, oh yeah.

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  What a grand camp.

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  Which a lot of music that we're putting on our new album came out of.

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  First, for people that are listening or watching, a writing camp, if they don't know, is when we would go to a special spot and have a studio and multiple writers all at one time, all writing, working towards a project. A lot of songs came out of it for your project.

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  For, uh, yeah, Sunday Best.

• 8:27Speaker 02

  Sunday Best, a lot of Jonas Brothers songs, a lot of Joe Jonas songs, DNC songs.

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  I love the, the writing camp style, because I feel like the, the momentum and the volume at which everyone's creating is, is really accelerated.

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  It is efficient.

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  And there's nothing else that you're supposed to be doing, or that you should be doing. In other words, like, if you're just going for a sort of nine to five style session, you're like, I wanna go home and go to dinner. When we were doing that camp, which I thought was super fun, it just went till 10:00 PM or 11:00 PM every night, and then it just became a listening session party.

• 8:59Speaker 00

  So fun. That studio is like magic, we were talking about it today, because there is, uh, a song on your album that we wrote together, which very kindly you asked, hey, can I put this song on my album? And obviously, yeah.

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  It's been an early fan favorite too, I think I've gotten the most DMs about Happy For You.

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  Yeah, that's cool.

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  The one, yeah.

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  I love that song, I'm so happy, and we wrote it during that New York writing camp, but that's, but the studio's special, it's the Lower East Side, but there's, we can, we'll show pictures here, like, we were saying today, the studios usually are like windowless, and you can, it's kind of depressing. But that studio had windows everywhere, so nice, it was gorgeous.

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  I felt deeply alive and so inspired, and there were so many songs happening every day, and it was just...

• 9:46Speaker 02

  The rooftop access too, which was great, to have that rooftop that we all got to hang in. But I remember the last night we were all there, it was kind of magical. Everyone just sat around in the main Studio A, I guess, and just listened to everything that was created in that week.

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  Song show and tell.

• 10:02Speaker 02

  Song show and tell, and it was, it felt like 1970, you know, like it felt different.

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  I've been to a few writing camps, and, and there's a version of that that has happened at each one of those camps. I will say in the past though, at previous camps, and I'm not gonna name names... There was definitely competitive vibe. People were like, listening to the songs going like, "This song's better." Exactly. I didn't feel that.

• 10:24Speaker 02

  Got him.

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  I didn't feel that with our care, because everyone was just so pumped for everyone writing and creating.

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  I think we were just inspired to be like, "Oh, okay, let's go do another one. Let's go create." It's like forty-some songs by the time, like, four days were done. It was wild.

• 10:38Speaker 03

  And we play a team sport, and I think you guys facilitate an environment that really makes it feel like a team sport. I remember on night one, we had just written "Princesses," and you had gone to an event to go grab dinner, and you were gonna come back, and I went into the other room where Dwayne and Tommy were working, and I was like trying to be very discerning, just like tactful, but like not trying to step on anyone's toes. Like, "Hey, can I hear what you're doing? Like, I don't wanna, only if welcome, I will totally leave." And they're like, "No, no, like, what do you think? What do you think?" And then that energy, I feel like, went into the rest of the week for me, because we were all just trying to make each other's songs better. It was so communal, and I mean, I don't like this feeling like something we're doing by ourselves. You guys have that. It's really beautiful.

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  My favorite song I've ever been a part of writing was during that week, a song called "Unrealistic."

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  Oh, I love that one.

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  It's on the, it's on the new album, which is coming.

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  Yeah, it's my favorite song I've ever been a part of writing.

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  Oh, yeah. My favorite song I've ever written was also with JP.

• 11:36Speaker 01

  Which song?

• 11:36Speaker 00

  It's not out yet. It's not like I can say the name.

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  And it's gonna be in a movie, which is also something, I can't say the name of the movie, but we had to re-record the, we re-recorded the song today, the vocals today. So that's what we were doing today during, in Toronto.

• 11:51Speaker 02

  That's where you went.

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  And then we wrote, then we wrote a song, because we had thirty minutes.

• 11:55Speaker 03

  Because why would we not?

• 11:56Speaker 02

  Thirty minutes left, write a song with JP. That makes sense.

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  And we did it. We're like, "Well, that's four fifty-nine. We gotta go."

• 12:00Speaker 01

  You guys missed a ton of really exciting stuff on our end.

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  Wonder what happened?

• 12:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

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  I got a facial.

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  Ooh, oh, you know what?

• 12:07Speaker 01

  I walked, I walked in and she was, she was like, "Have you ever had an electro-something facial?"

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  Oh, I love it.

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  I was like,

• 12:13Speaker 00

  What the hell, E?

• 12:14Speaker 01

  Ah, I don't know. She goes, "I think maybe you might wanna just switch to the men's signature facial." And I was like, "I think you're right." But I did it, and it felt fantastic. She's got all the stuff moving in my sinuses.

• 12:28Speaker 02

  How are you feeling?

• 12:29Speaker 01

  I'm still, I'm still kinda battling.

• 12:32Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 12:32Speaker 01

  Fighting a good fight.

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  You look good.

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  Thank you.

• 12:36Speaker 02

  Your, your, your skin is,

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  It's glowing?

• 12:38Speaker 02

  It, it is pretty nice right now.

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  I appreciate that.

• 12:41Speaker 00

  Also, this week, Kevin's kinda gone viral.

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  Delete the thread!

• 12:49Speaker 03

  I love the buttons.

• 12:50Speaker 00

  Well, we'll just quickly catch you up. Kevin accidentally sent a picture of him exposing himself on a, on our football Giants group thread.

• 12:58Speaker 02

  I sent my peen in a picture.

• 13:00Speaker 03

  To the football Giants group chat?

• 13:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:02Speaker 03

  Where was it? What was it? To your wife, I assume?

• 13:04Speaker 00

  No, no.

• 13:05Speaker 02

  No, no, to the boys.

• 13:06Speaker 03

  No, that was the intended recipient.

• 13:07Speaker 02

  Nope.

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  No, no.

• 13:07Speaker 03

  I don't understand. Help!

• 13:09Speaker 02

  I was sending a photo of a TV that had, and a news announcement about the Giants. It's in my bathroom, and the TV's in our bathroom.

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  The backsplash is mirrors.

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  Oh, my gosh, that's so good. Kevin, that's, you're so quick. It's amazing. That's, what was it? Who responded first?

• 13:29Speaker 02

  It wasn't a lot, but it was a lot.

• 13:30Speaker 01

  No one would've noticed the photo. The thing that made it funny was his, his follow-up text, once he realized. It was, "Guys, I'm so sorry," was the first one.

• 13:38Speaker 02

  Please delete the photo.

• 13:39Speaker 01

  Please delete the photo, and then eventually, "Cuck, cuck, my life." It's autocorrected.

• 13:44Speaker 03

  Oh, wow.

• 13:45Speaker 02

  Which made it worse.

• 13:47Speaker 01

  And then the final one was, "Delete the thread," which is the funniest shit I've ever heard.

• 13:51Speaker 03

  So good.

• 13:52Speaker 01

  It's like, "Stop the count," but.

• 13:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, but in a text form.

• 13:57Speaker 02

  It's been a, um, interesting few days.

• 13:59Speaker 03

  I see. Well, but you've made it something that is working in your favor, and in that sense, we, you know, you did something that could've been embarrassing, and now.

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  Keeping the Giants in the news.

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  I've got a question.

• 14:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, keeping the faith.

• 14:09Speaker 03

  Is that what you're calling the day pic?

• 14:12Speaker 01

  It's called,

• 14:13Speaker 02

  Giants in the news. Thank you. I appreciate that.

• 14:16Speaker 03

  Very much, Kevin.

• 14:17Speaker 01

  This is Nick Jonas.

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  This is Kevin Jonas.

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  And Joe Jonas from Hey Jonas.

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  All right. Who started drinking Almond Breeze almond milk first?

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  I think it was.

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  Yeah, you're like, "You know, guys, I tried this Almond Breeze in my coffee today."

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  Changed the game for me. All right, who's the most likely to finish the last carton of Almond Breeze and not replace it?

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  That's Kevin.

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  Kevin, of course.

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  Yeah.

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  That's someone else's job.

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  Take it, Kev.

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  What's the most random place you drank Almond Breeze?

• 15:08Speaker 00

  The last time I visited the Empire State Building.

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  Ooh.

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  Ooh, um, Kevin's, you know what I've found very interesting is how you will drink a carton to yourself.

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  Yeah, straight off the dome.

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  And he usually does it before show.

• 15:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, just really getting myself going.

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  He needs it on stage.

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  No, I've never heard that.

• 16:36Speaker 00

  Kevin. Yeah, you have. You've got bacon, lettuce, tomato, rock, paper, scissors.

• 16:40Speaker 01

  Joe, Nick, Kevin.

• 16:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, and that is a good one.

• 16:44Speaker 00

  Or, because it's cold season, Kleenex lotion tissues.

• 16:47Speaker 02

  There's no three in Kleenex tissues.

• 16:49Speaker 00

  That's where you're wrong, Kev, my friend. Listen, Kleenex lotion tissues have three-in-one skin-loving benefits. It protects hands, soothes, and moisturizes your skin.

• 16:58Speaker 02

  I never realized you were so into skincare, Joe.

• 17:01Speaker 01

  Come on, who doesn't love to moisturize?

• 17:04Speaker 02

  You've got a good point.

• 17:05Speaker 00

  Oh, and don't forget to tell them about the three thick layers made with coconut oil and aloe.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  Wow, good things really do come in threes.

• 17:11Speaker 00

  For whatever happens next, grab Kleenex. You know, JP, I think you're like a mastermind when it comes to, like, listening to someone, and you'll be like, "You said about three hours ago this thing, and I'm gonna put it in a song." Now, have you ever had kind of even an accidental text or thing that might've been a mishap turn into a great song lyric for yourself?

• 17:35Speaker 03

  A mishap text? Um, I have my, my communicative mind so locked down. I like, I overthink everything I'm gonna say to someone I love like eight to seventeen times, so it very rarely goes awry, unless there's like a little bit of alcohol involved. And that happens, when we're writing songs, I, I find that you all have this habit of just saying like really fascinating things, like sometimes you know you're doing it and sometimes you don't. So it's just kind of fun to be in my position, trying to listen real carefully and think like, that's, like the thing you said about the bakery earlier.

• 18:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:10Speaker 03

  Was notable to me.

• 18:11Speaker 01

  What'd you say about the bakery? I wanna know.

• 18:12Speaker 00

  I said,

• 18:14Speaker 03

  You said, "I, I ain't gonna sugarcoat it. This ain't a bakery." Or, it was,

• 18:18Speaker 02

  I kinda love that.

• 18:19Speaker 03

  You said, "This ain't a bakery. I ain't gonna sugarcoat it," and I was like, "That's excellent. That should be kept."

• 18:24Speaker 00

  We're putting it in a song.

• 18:25Speaker 01

  Did you, did you mean to say that as like a line in the song, or you just said that in conversation?

• 18:29Speaker 00

  We were having a conversation.

• 18:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was just telling stories.

• 18:31Speaker 01

  It's kinda hard. It's hard.

• 18:32Speaker 03

  Right?

• 18:32Speaker 00

  It's a hard line.

• 18:33Speaker 01

  You should write for Drake. Speaking of alcohol.

• 18:38Speaker 03

  The chartreuse has led to me saying things I shouldn't have said, or maybe should have. Maybe should have but was afraid to. Ah.

• 18:43Speaker 01

  We decided to provide some chartreuse for the podcast today.

• 18:47Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 18:47Speaker 01

  Because we know you love it. Tell us, um, why you love chartreuse so much, and, and the history behind this beverage that is kind of a, it's sort of an anomaly, right?

• 18:55Speaker 03

  It's quite mystical. Um, I will tell you the story of chartreuse. I have to just like get it off of my chest that I feel like minorly guilty for any bad feelings that any of you are feeling the day after my release party, but it was so deeply sweet of you to show up and celebrate with me.

• 19:07Speaker 00

  Also a line we spoke about, I said, "Be tired for the right people," and what did you say?

• 19:10Speaker 03

  "Gotta be sleepy for the right reasons."

• 19:11Speaker 00

  Amen.

• 19:12Speaker 01

  I love this, guys.

• 19:13Speaker 02

  Guys, bars.

• 19:14Speaker 00

  In thirty minutes.

• 19:15Speaker 01

  We should wrap up this pod and go write some music.

• 19:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:17Speaker 03

  We were, I mean, the first, admittedly, the first, like, few minutes of us having this conversation, I was still trying to find a rhyme for answer.

• 19:24Speaker 01

  I could see that.

• 19:25Speaker 02

  I, um, I, We clock you now. We got you now.

• 19:29Speaker 03

  I got it, though.

• 19:29Speaker 02

  Like, we see you.

• 19:30Speaker 01

  I will say that I, um,

• 19:31Speaker 00

  Also good.

• 19:32Speaker 01

  I love that part of the process, you know, before we have our sip of chartreuse. For the non-songwriters out there, and for the songwriters, one of the things that is most, I think, fulfilling or gratifying about the songwriting process is when you know you can beat something, and you're that close, and you, you get to solve the math problem. When you finally break it open, and it's happened with you and I, and the four of us, a few times, where you're like, "It's not right, it's not right," and all of a sudden, it just becomes,

• 19:59Speaker 00

  Just one thing, it's like, oh, it was always in front of us.

• 20:02Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, the most recent one, I will say, happened on "Listen When Sad." When we got to the end of the chorus, it was, "Listen When Sad," and then "Call Me," on the, the writing on the CD, that's the note. I was like, "That's such an interesting, fun way to say that thing."

• 20:15Speaker 03

  I love that song. Cheers.

• 20:16Speaker 00

  Cheers, guys. Love you.

• 20:17Speaker 02

  I don't know if I've ever actually had chartreuse.

• 20:19Speaker 03

  Love you, love you.

• 20:20Speaker 02

  So, oh, it's, it's quite good.

• 20:23Speaker 01

  Very warm.

• 20:23Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 20:24Speaker 03

  Have you never had the chartreuse bottles I've been putting on the table of the studios?

• 20:27Speaker 00

  I, I've never had. Only, only when tequila ran out.

• 20:31Speaker 02

  I can say this would be great after, like, dinner drink. Like, I get it.

• 20:35Speaker 00

  It's good for your belly.

• 20:36Speaker 03

  Often used in a pair of T5s. Okay, my disclaimer, I, I don't, I'm not,

• 20:41Speaker 00

  Sponsored by chartreuse.

• 20:42Speaker 03

  Sponsored by chartreuse.

• 20:43Speaker 02

  I'm not sure the monks are sponsoring anyone.

• 20:45Speaker 03

  Nor am I from France, nor am I a monk, but there are some French monks.

• 20:50Speaker 01

  The last, you know, maybe, I don't.

• 20:51Speaker 03

  I'm so far from being a monk.

• 20:53Speaker 02

  Nah, you're pretty damn close.

• 20:54Speaker 03

  No, I'm so chaotic, Kevin.

• 20:55Speaker 01

  You're deeply connected to your spiritual source.

• 21:00Speaker 03

  Thank you. I appreciate that. I do think as songwriters, sometimes people misunderstand our ability to navigate our emotions for our ability to articulate how badly we navigate our emotions.

• 21:10Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 21:11Speaker 02

  Damn, say that again twice, what?

• 21:12Speaker 03

  Sorry, I took one sip and I started talking speedy, speedy. I think that our job is not necessarily to have the right answers to go about our lives emotionally. It is just to represent authentically and honestly how we have not necessarily always gotten our emotional lives right. Not that there is a right or wrong to these things. There is a messy and an honest.

• 21:34Speaker 02

  So real.

• 21:35Speaker 03

  Which is what we're trying to be in these songs, messy and honest and transparent in the chartreuse.

• 21:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:40Speaker 02

  It's kind of messy and honest.

• 21:41Speaker 00

  Made by monks is what we're getting at.

• 21:42Speaker 03

  Yes, so the monks and...

• 21:44Speaker 01

  They don't share the recipe, right? That's the whole deal.

• 21:46Speaker 03

  It's a secret.

• 21:47Speaker 02

  They don't even have...

• 21:47Speaker 01

  There's like two people that know it?

• 21:48Speaker 02

  Three, right?

• 21:49Speaker 03

  I think there's two of them that know about it. This is the lore. It's from 1600s. I think it says on the bottle, I'm not gonna read it, I'm gonna do my own version of this. Hundreds of years, secret recipe, they made it for their prayers, they started sharing, they started selling, and now we get to write songs with it.

• 22:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it's, it's how much alcohol content? Oh, 55%? That's not too crazy.

• 22:11Speaker 02

  It's not anything small.

• 22:12Speaker 01

  It's sort of like a, a strong, strong, strong wine.

• 22:15Speaker 03

  If it can bring the monks closer to God, it can bring us closer to each other.

• 22:20Speaker 01

  Well, cheers.

• 22:21Speaker 02

  Cheers, guys.

• 22:21Speaker 01

  Cheers, boys. Let's transition this conversation from the monks for a moment.

• 22:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, I read this and I just gotta understand. It says it on my, my little sheet here, but it says that you got really good at Jeopardy? During COVID?

• 22:33Speaker 03

  Wow, I wonder where that was found? Um, I think I'm probably...

• 22:36Speaker 02

  It's all AI.

• 22:37Speaker 03

  Worse.

• 22:38Speaker 02

  This one brought to you by perplexity.

• 22:41Speaker 03

  I do like watching Jeopardy. I mean, I feel like even if you get one out of 10 answers right, if you get an answer watching Jeopardy before the contestants do, there are a few feelings better.

• 22:49Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 22:50Speaker 03

  There are some.

• 22:51Speaker 02

  Yeah. I've, I've tried that with Wheel of Fortune, but my spelling is horrific.

• 22:56Speaker 03

  I get angry at them when they don't get it right on Wheel of Fortune. I just yell at them. Jeopardy, it's like, it's fun, it resets every few seconds.

• 23:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:02Speaker 03

  I love a dork. Just a big fan of a, someone who knows a lot about an innocuous thing.

• 23:07Speaker 01

  I get it. Likes Jeopardy, doesn't love, so we've, we've learned that.

• 23:12Speaker 02

  We've established that now, sorry.

• 23:13Speaker 03

  I wouldn't make it like an identity thing.

• 23:14Speaker 02

  That doesn't seem like the thing I know about you, that's why I had to ask it.

• 23:17Speaker 03

  It's a taste thing more than like a sense of stuff thing.

• 23:20Speaker 00

  Joe, do you have any other fun questions?

• 23:22Speaker 02

  Unimportant questions to ask?

• 23:23Speaker 03

  This is so fun, cause usually like in our professional settings, I am asking the three of you questions.

• 23:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, sure.

• 23:27Speaker 03

  This is a fun little switch up.

• 23:29Speaker 00

  I mean, I have a lot of questions for JP. I think, you know, it's fun to have friends on the podcast. I think that's one thing for us, for the listener out there. You know, we have, we have guests, but I think when we know somebody so well and personally, and then we really read something on our wonderful cards that our producers help us with, then we're like, I didn't know about this.

• 23:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's what I, that's what I asked.

• 23:49Speaker 00

  So naturally, I, I want to turn it back to what you were saying about, you know, you, you have a place with your dad now, like what has been the biggest thing you've learned about yourself, living with your father? Again.

• 23:58Speaker 03

  Would you like a, like a fun cute answer to that, or like a more involved, like emotional answer to that?

• 24:02Speaker 00

  I want both.

• 24:03Speaker 03

  Okay, we'll go with emotionally involved first. I think for a long time, I associated, uh, when it came to like taking care of your parents, like getting your mom a place, taking care of your mom, point of pride, point of success, like this, like, oh my gosh, I got my mom a place. What, for whatever reason, I never applied it to my dad. I think the reason is sort of an internalized misogyny, like problematic concept of masculinity, that's like no men should be able to take care of themselves, like it's almost like a weird aversion to it being him I was taking care of. But the truth is like, my dad was the, the much more present parent. He was the one who took me to all the practices and drove me to school and was like an unbelievably loving father and present parent.

• 24:46Speaker 03

  And I had to unlearn whatever, the therapy, the books, the reading, the like self exploration of what it was that came with some sort of judgment to take care of my dad, the way I would never have judged taking care of my mom. So, long-winded answer to your question, how is it feeling now? It's feeling just wonderful, like I get to kick it with someone who would be my friend if he wasn't my dad, cause he's just so strange and perfect and I, I love getting his perspective on the life that we are both living.

• 25:13Speaker 01

  It's beautiful.

• 25:14Speaker 00

  And the fun whimsical thing?

• 25:16Speaker 03

  I get to like see sort of his lens on the world is just so dramatically different than mine. So he has like, he has funny takes. Like he, he's a man of the stoop lately. He sits on the stoop and he watches the world go by and he, he has little conversations with people who, he gets very excited about the conversations he has with people on the stoop.

• 25:35Speaker 01

  Love that.

• 25:35Speaker 03

  I made a video about him on his stoop, so people have, have sought him out on the stoop, which he quite likes.

• 25:40Speaker 01

  That's fantastic.

• 25:40Speaker 02

  I love that.

• 25:42Speaker 03

  A stoop dweller.

• 25:43Speaker 00

  Stoop dweller.

• 25:44Speaker 01

  So cool. The, the takes are about what he's seeing or about the world in, in general?

• 25:48Speaker 03

  Uh, it's a little bit of both. He's quite fascinated by all of the things going on in Trinity Bellwoods Park.

• 25:53Speaker 01

  And kind of just like watching it?

• 25:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:55Speaker 01

  As an observer.

• 25:56Speaker 03

  He observes.

• 25:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:57Speaker 03

  He considers, he ponders.

• 25:58Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 25:59Speaker 03

  And he doesn't do it, I have a bit of a productivity obsession, which has led to wonderful things in my life and occasionally seeps the joy out of things as well. That I, I would like things to have some sort of forward momentum function in order to lean into them. And he doesn't have that. He just, he's good at joy for the sake of joy.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  That's beautiful. Do you people watch?

• 26:21Speaker 03

  I think, I think I do people watch.

• 26:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:23Speaker 02

  Love people watching, same. Especially airport people watching.

• 26:27Speaker 03

  I forget they can see you back.

• 26:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's, that's problematic.

• 26:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:30Speaker 02

  Can be, maybe not.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  Yeah. This is Nick Jonas.

• 26:33Speaker 02

  This is Kevin Jonas.

• 26:34Speaker 00

  And Joe Jonas from Hey Jonas. This episode is brought to you by State Farm.

• 26:39Speaker 02

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• 26:42Speaker 01

  Like child-sized fuzzy socks?

• 26:44Speaker 02

  I was thinking more like a horror movie subscription, but sure.

• 26:46Speaker 01

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• 26:48Speaker 00

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• 26:55Speaker 01

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• 26:58Speaker 00

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• 26:59Speaker 02

  Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

• 27:01Speaker 00

  Hey Jonas is brought to you by Almond Breeze. It's time for some questions from the producers.

• 27:05Speaker 01

  All right. Who started drinking Almond Breeze almond milk first?

• 27:07Speaker 02

  Actually, I think that was you, Nick.

• 27:09Speaker 00

  I think it was.

• 27:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're like, you know, guys, I tried this almond breeze in my coffee today.

• 27:13Speaker 01

  Changed the game for me.

• 27:14Speaker 02

  It was great.

• 27:15Speaker 01

  All right, who's the most likely to finish the last carton of almond breeze and not replace it?

• 27:18Speaker 00

  That was Kevin.

• 27:19Speaker 01

  Kevin, of course.

• 27:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:21Speaker 02

  That's someone else's job.

• 27:22Speaker 00

  Take it, Kev.

• 27:22Speaker 01

  What's the most random place you drank almond breeze?

• 27:25Speaker 00

  The last time I visited the Empire State Building.

• 27:27Speaker 01

  Ah, that's a random place for sure. I've noticed you guys really like almond breeze almond milk. Who has the most specific way of drinking it?

• 27:34Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 27:35Speaker 00

  Ooh, um, Kevin's, you know what's what I've found very interesting is how you will drink a carton to yourself.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, straight off the dome.

• 27:42Speaker 00

  And he usually does it before show.

• 27:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, just really getting myself going.

• 27:46Speaker 00

  He needs it on stage.

• 27:47Speaker 01

  Okay, last question. Why do you guys like almond breeze so much?

• 27:50Speaker 02

  Oh, it just tastes great. It's a great alternative.

• 27:53Speaker 01

  It is great.

• 27:53Speaker 00

  It's simply because it's really good.

• 27:55Speaker 01

  True. Try almond breeze, trust us, it's really good. Ever given a gift that kind of just fell flat?

• 27:59Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 28:00Speaker 01

  You can always tell, cause they, they say what it is out loud, like, oh, wow, sucks, thank you.

• 28:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, definitely, it's definitely happened to me. You think you nailed it, and then you see their face and immediately realize, yeah, maybe I should have gone with something they'd actually be excited to open.

• 28:12Speaker 00

  Now just skip the gift you thought they would like and you should probably just go to Sephora.

• 28:16Speaker 01

  Because Sephora is basically the secret to gifts that always deliver joy.

• 28:19Speaker 02

  And their beauty advisors make it easy on you. Even if you're not a beauty shopper, tell them who you're shopping for and they'll point you towards something perfect.

• 28:26Speaker 00

  That's nice. Or bring them your whole list. Their gifts are honestly so good.

• 28:30Speaker 01

  So this holiday season, instead of getting in your own head about it, let's all say it together. We all Sephora.

• 28:35Speaker 02

  You get to skip the stress and still give a truly thoughtful gift.

• 28:38Speaker 00

  Hmm, and everyone you love ends up with something they'll adore. The kind of thing they'd never think of or ask for, but secretly, deep down, we're really hoping for.

• 28:46Speaker 01

  Shop gifts at Sephora and give something beautiful. You've probably heard that good things come in threes.

• 28:51Speaker 02

  No, I've never heard that.

• 28:53Speaker 00

  Kevin. Yeah, you have. You've got bacon, lettuce, tomato, rock, paper, scissors.

• 28:57Speaker 01

  Joe, Nick, Kevin.

• 28:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, and that, that is a good one.

• 29:01Speaker 00

  Or because it's cold season, Kleenex lotion tissues.

• 29:04Speaker 02

  There's no three in Kleenex tissues.

• 29:06Speaker 00

  That's where you're wrong, Kev, my friend, listen. Kleenex lotion tissues have three-in-one skin-loving benefits. It protects hands, soothes and moisturizes your skin.

• 29:15Speaker 02

  I never realized you were so into skincare, Joe.

• 29:18Speaker 01

  Come on, who doesn't love to moisturize?

• 29:21Speaker 02

  You've got a good point.

• 29:22Speaker 00

  Oh, and don't forget to tell them about the three thick layers made with coconut oil and olive.

• 29:26Speaker 01

  Wow, good things really do come in threes.

• 29:28Speaker 00

  For whatever happens next, grab Kleenex.

• 29:31Speaker 02

  Nick and I found ourselves...

• 29:32Speaker 00

  Like I was giving Nick a play by play. We were at a spot having some beers in New York. And I was like, dude.

• 29:39Speaker 01

  I've never done that.

• 29:40Speaker 00

  Never. And I looked at Nick and I was like, the couple or the the date that's going on behind us.

• 29:45Speaker 01

  But you were really fascinated by this.

• 29:46Speaker 00

  I was like, I was like, this is like, total rom com. Like he.

• 29:50Speaker 01

  It was bringing you a lot of joy.

• 29:51Speaker 00

  It was. I was like.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  To this point about.

• 29:53Speaker 00

  The joy in her eyes on this date. And when he got up to use the bathroom, she was just like, I was like, I think she just met her husband.

• 29:59Speaker 02

  Well, like she, we were like seeing people fall in love.

• 30:01Speaker 00

  Falling in love. And it was really beautiful. Like, he went to go and they came back with another.

• 30:05Speaker 01

  My back went to them, so I couldn't see. So I was getting the play by play from Joe the whole time.

• 30:08Speaker 00

  And it was so, I was just like, oh, wow.

• 30:09Speaker 01

  Imagine their surprise. They're like, Joe Jonas is narrating our entire love story to his brother.

• 30:13Speaker 00

  To his brother. I was like, Nick, I was like, I was like, oh, man, she's like, he's opening up to her right now about something like really deep in his life. I was like, I was there. I couldn't hear it. I couldn't hear her at them. But I'm like, I know that conversation. He was getting very vulnerable. And I was like, just like proud of him. I was like, I don't know this guy, but I'm proud of him. And she was just like, her hand was on her, her chin. And she just was like, this guy is like, it was.

• 30:35Speaker 01

  He's so open.

• 30:35Speaker 00

  It was giving, it was giving.

• 30:36Speaker 01

  I'm going to.

• 30:38Speaker 01

  I'm gonna say this statement and hope that it, uh, it's the proper usage, because I want to start using this. Hope begets hope. Isn't that good?

• 30:48Speaker 02

  Really good.

• 30:49Speaker 01

  Begets. It's just, we don't say it enough.

• 30:50Speaker 02

  Begets is a good word.

• 30:51Speaker 01

  Not begets, begets.

• 30:53Speaker 00

  Like begets, like baguettes.

• 30:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, not baguettes.

• 30:56Speaker 01

  But it's a really good word. Think about it. This is my hot take of the day.

• 30:59Speaker 02

  Baguettes.

• 31:00Speaker 01

  It's like, the more you do a thing, the more, it's, it's a really beautiful.

• 31:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:05Speaker 02

  Hope begets bad.

• 31:06Speaker 03

  It's good. Hope begets hope. Fear begets fear.

• 31:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:09Speaker 03

  One shard of charge. Oh, my gosh, it's gone. The words are gone.

• 31:13Speaker 01

  That's it. It's all took. Okay, we have a bowl of questions here. It's a perfect time to answer some questions.

• 31:18Speaker 02

  It is.

• 31:19Speaker 01

  Um, it's right here.

• 31:20Speaker 03

  A bowl?

• 31:20Speaker 01

  It's got nothing to do with your life or career. It's just, uh.

• 31:23Speaker 03

  Thoughts and concerns?

• 31:24Speaker 02

  Sometimes they are. And it relates, but it's weird.

• 31:27Speaker 03

  Last thing you said out loud to yourself when you were alone.

• 31:31Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 31:34Speaker 00

  What's it? It was, oh, no.

• 31:35Speaker 02

  Cock my life.

• 31:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:36Speaker 00

  Oh, no. Perfect.

• 31:39Speaker 00

  Cock my life.

• 31:41Speaker 03

  What item you would take with you to the moon? A friend.

• 31:44Speaker 01

  That's great.

• 31:45Speaker 03

  How many you want me to do? This is fun.

• 31:46Speaker 01

  I think just keep going. You're nailing this.

• 31:47Speaker 03

  Okay, uh, you have to spend 24 hours handcuffed to one celebrity. Who would make the day the least unbearable? Can I have three hands and three handcuffs?

• 31:55Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 31:56Speaker 02

  I think he's talking about us.

• 31:58Speaker 01

  Hey.

• 31:58Speaker 00

  Perfect.

• 31:59Speaker 03

  Lovely.

• 32:00Speaker 01

  Let's do one more.

• 32:01Speaker 03

  Someone offers you $100,000 to give up your phone for a year. Could you do it? Obviously, I would, if I could exist fully, if I would be supported, I would give up my phone for a year for free. But thank you for the 100 grand.

• 32:11Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 32:11Speaker 00

  Well, okay, well, we have a voicemail.

• 32:13Speaker 02

  Speaking of phones.

• 32:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, we have a voicemail next. People call in and ask us advice, things that we are not professionals on. But, uh, sometimes it's advice, sometimes it's just thoughts.

• 32:23Speaker 01

  All right, guys. It's our favorite part of the podcast.

• 32:26Speaker 00

  What's that?

• 32:26Speaker 01

  The hotline has been absolutely blowing up.

• 32:28Speaker 02

  It's on fire.

• 32:29Speaker 01

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  Hi, guys. I need a little bit of advice on navigating a difficult conversation with my childhood best friend. She's been seeing this guy who's 18 years older than her. They've been together almost three years now. She's been very vocal with him about wanting to settle down, maybe get a place together, have a family. But because he's already been divorced and has two teenagers, he's very hot and cold on the subject altogether. Lately, she's been venting about it. She's obviously frustrated and doesn't want to be the one making all the sacrifices.

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  But she stays, I think, because of a long string of bad past relationships. So I've kind of hit a wall. I don't really know what else to tell her besides, you know, don't settle if it doesn't feel good. Um, I think it's totally fine for people to admit they're just in a different stage of life. But how would you navigate this conversation and give her better support without overstepping or hurting her feelings? Anyways, thanks. Love you, guys.

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  Okay, complicated issue. JP Sacks, thoughts?

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  Write to me on this.

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  Write to you.

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  People can be wonderful humans.

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  And they can also not love you in a way that you deserve. And those are two separate things to consider. So this man in this woman's life might be wonderful, and all of those things are true. And I'm sure all of the reasons that she cares about him are valid and important and worth considering. Now, that does not mean he's loving her in a way that she deserves.

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  Yeah.

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  And you.

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  Or that it's right.

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  Or that is right. And she deserves both of those things. She deserves someone that she loves and someone who loves her in a way that she loves.

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  Wow.

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  And it's very, it's very hard to to choose something that isn't actively choosing you. And it doesn't sound like he's actively choosing her in the way that she wants. And that's really hard. So I'm not sure that she can tell her friend what to do, but she can certainly support her friend through a difficult thing. And hopefully she'll arrive at a decision that is showing herself love.

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  I think it's phenomenal advice. Sometimes as a friend

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  Uh huh.

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  of a person that you're seeing go through a situation, the best advice sometimes is to say nothing. Let them live their life and experience the thing, the good, the bad, the ugly, and be there to support them after

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  they've gone through the journey that they have to go on. In this case, I think the friend is committed. She wants to be with this guy. She's going to. It doesn't matter, you know? All the things you just said are are true. But as a friend, you're not going to be able to tell her that. She just has to live it and and, you know, figure out afterwards. You know, where she's going to receive her, her healing from. And that's probably going to be from her best friend.

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  And I think also getting advice from too many people can be.

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  It gets wacky.

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  It gets weird.

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  Everybody will be like, well.

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  But also the thing happens, which is, which is always tough when, you know, friends start to chime in and say like, oh, yeah, actually, I really never liked that thing about this guy. And then you stay with the person.

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  That always lasts. That never lasts.

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  I think you're doing a good job, but you just, you just gotta let her do her thing. And I think be, be supportive.

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  Hard part is, as the friend, that you're sitting there through the venting. So you're just like, you seem unhappy, but you're, you know, like, it's that weird, like, middle ground.

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  But to Nick's point, like, listen and without fixing.

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  Listen inside.

• 36:21Speaker 03

  Mm hmm. Yeah, hard to just, hard to just listen and be there and not try and fix anything. Because sometimes it, your point, it like, it, it usually doesn't work and sometimes makes it worse, even if you have the right idea.

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  Completely agree.

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  You're good at that. You've, you've shown up for me in that way.

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  Yeah.

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  In similar circumstances.

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  Well, I wish your friend the best to our, our lovely, uh, voicemail caller.

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  Thank you, Hyundai.

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  Thanks, Hyundai.

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  And we have a show to play, I guess.

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  Oh, yeah, we do.

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  We have to go write a song first, which we started.

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  If you don't mind signing the wall behind you, JP, but thank you for being on the pod with us.

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  Congratulations on the album.

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  Congrats, the album.

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  Thanks.

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  Okay, piano guy.

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