Adria Arjona

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• 0:00Josh Horowitz?

  How you feeling? You good?

• 0:01Speaker 01

  No, I'm not good. Are you kidding me? My whole life is in the line and you're just [BLEEP] with me.

• 0:10Josh Horowitz?

  One might say you're [BLEEP] with me.

• 0:12Speaker 01

  I'm not. I'm sort of secrecy and I don't like secrets. I hate secrets. I'm so mad at them.

• 0:20Speaker 02

  Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins.

• 0:28Josh Horowitz?

  Hey guys, it's Josh. Welcome to another edition of Happy Sad Confused. Today on the show, first time guest, Adria Arjona, absolutely killing it in recent years. Hitman, her new film Onslaught, Andor. She's in the new Man of Tomorrow Superman sequel as someone? We don't know. We'll see. Uh, today we were talking about Onslaught, her new film with Adam Wingard. This is a great conversation. So thrilled she finally came on the podcast. Thanks guys, as always, for checking out Happy Sad Confused. Remember, hit that subscribe button on YouTube, on Spotify, however you're enjoying this. I appreciate you guys. Remember to check out our Patreon, patreon.com/happysadconfused, early access, discount codes to our live events and much, much more. We've got a live one on October 13th

• 1:11Josh Horowitz?

  in New York City with Joe Manganiello, talking about his career, his new memoir and more. Okay, main event today, as I said, it's Adria Arjona, who is very much in demand. She's getting like all these choice roles and well deserved. She kind of came, I think, I feel like the next, the big break for her in recent years has to be Hitman, the Richard Linklater film with her and Glenn Powell. But since then, getting the absolutely great role of Bix in Andor, being cast in the new Thomas Crown Affair remake, getting this new potentially game-changing role in Man of Tomorrow, uh, and leading this film Onslaught, directed by Adam Wingard. If you know Adam Wingard's, uh,

• 1:52Josh Horowitz?

  films, you know that he's kind of got a gonzo spirit, like an action slasher spirit to much of his early works. And this is kind of a return to form. Um, Adria is a kick-ass heroine in this. She leads the way alongside a cast that includes Drew Starkey, Reginald Bell Johnson, if you know Die Hard, you know who I'm talking about, uh, and Dan Stevens and Rebecca Hall and more. So she's great in this. This is a really fun conversation and I know a lot of people are going to be tuning into this one because they are curious about Adria's role in Man of Tomorrow, the Superman sequel. There's a lot of conjecture about who she plays to lay it out on the table. There's conjecture that she's playing a character named Maxima, or there's conjecture that she's playing a character known as Wonder Woman.

• 2:33Josh Horowitz?

  Now, I don't know who she plays. For the record, I have no idea who she plays. I have no inside intel. I just know what I believe, which is I'm guessing she's Wonder Woman and I think she'd be a hell of a Wonder Woman. We have a nice extended conversation about those rumors, a very playful conversation. Don't worry, we don't spoil anything. But I think no matter who she ends up playing in retrospect, this portion of the conversation you guys are gonna dig. So enjoy this entire chat with Adria about her entire career, Onslaught, all the way back, uh, and to the future with Thomas Crown Affair and Man of Tomorrow. Enjoy. Adria, are you ready for this?

• 3:06Speaker 01

  I'm ready.

• 3:07Josh Horowitz?

  Did I get it right, Adria?

• 3:08Speaker 01

  You did. You're the first one today.

• 3:09Josh Horowitz?

  The first one, oh.

• 3:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:11Josh Horowitz?

  I was gonna say, I feel like, look, in, in the trajectory of your career, you're, you're killing it, the last few years especially. You've been doing it for a minute, but especially the last few years, have you noticed the ratio of like percentage of people getting it right?

• 3:21Speaker 01

  No, they keep killing it.

• 3:22Josh Horowitz?

  They keep killing your name.

• 3:23Speaker 01

  They keep killing my name. I feel like it's getting worse.

• 3:27Josh Horowitz?

  No.

• 3:27Speaker 01

  It is.

• 3:28Josh Horowitz?

  What's the worst pronunciation? What's the one that gets on your skin?

• 3:30Speaker 01

  Arigiona was the one I got today.

• 3:34Josh Horowitz?

  That's just adding syllables. That's adding-

• 3:35Speaker 01

  That's adding letters. You're like, what is happening? I've gotten Abigail many times. Yeah. Abigail always surprises me and it's the one that I get the most. I'm like-

• 3:45Josh Horowitz?

  Not even close.

• 3:46Speaker 01

  A B, a G, an L. You're getting real creative. My name is five letters.

• 3:52Josh Horowitz?

  Get guys, come on.

• 3:53Speaker 01

  It's five letters.

• 3:54Josh Horowitz?

  Pay some respect.

• 3:55Speaker 01

  It's Adria Arjona.

• 3:57Josh Horowitz?

  There it is.

• 3:58Speaker 01

  Or Adria Arjona. Arjona. God damn it.

• 4:03Josh Horowitz?

  Most importantly, let's call her a first time guest on Happy Sad Confused. I'm so happy to have you here. I've been following your work a lot lately.

• 4:09Speaker 01

  And I've been following yours.

• 4:11Josh Horowitz?

  Oh, I appreciate you. Um, congratulations. The new film we're spreading the good word on is Adam Wingard's, um, mad cap, I don't know what we call it, slasher genre mashup Onslaught.

• 4:24Speaker 01

  That was good.

• 4:24Josh Horowitz?

  How are you feeling? You're like about to deliver this child into the universe. You've been very much behind this one. You love this one, I know. Do you tend to get like tense before a release? Excited? Put me in your head a little bit.

• 4:36Speaker 01

  Well, this one's a wild child, so I'm a little scared.

• 4:42Speaker 01

  No, I'm really excited. I'm excited. I'm particularly excited about this one because, and I felt the same in, in Spitzfeld because it's very much a director's movie. Um, you know, I love watching a director take a swing and freaking nail it and it's, he makes some very interesting choices. The sound design in this movie is amazing. Um, and I just, yeah, I like seeing risky movies go to the theaters.

• 5:09Josh Horowitz?

  This is what I always say. I mean, one of my mantras on this podcast is like, I'll take a big swing that succeeds or fails any day over. I don't need a double. I don't need like a safe. We've seen plenty of safe movies. Just go for it.

• 5:22Speaker 01

  Just go for it. Adam Wingard goes for it.

• 5:26Josh Horowitz?

  So part of like, I mean, there's, I'm sure a lot of appeal. We'll start with the film, then we'll backtrack about a lot of other stuff in your career, if you'll indulge me, but like, I mean, you're aspiring, I would imagine, Adam and yourself, like to some kind of like iconic badassery.

• 5:39Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 5:39Josh Horowitz?

  In this, like, this is like Ripley, Sarah Connor in the, in the DNA. Like, is that referenced like right from the start?

• 5:47Speaker 01

  I mean,

• 5:50Speaker 01

  maybe there's an air there too. I mean, she was my North Star in preparation and then once I, you know, started filming, I kind of dropped that idea. I'm like, it's too much for me to-

• 6:00Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, put that picture on the-

• 6:01Speaker 01

  Put that picture in my trailer. I'm like, no, she's too cool. She's just way too cool. Um, but I aspired, you know, she was part of my inspiration.

• 6:09Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 6:09Speaker 01

  Definitely in the, in the prep work. And I think when you first start watching the movie, you're like a little confused by my character, which is what we sort of intended. I, our, we made a very specific choice that we wanted her to feel messy. And, and have a complicated relationship with motherhood. Um, we see so many male actors get a chance to portray those characters, but rarely do we see women get to portray those characters. So that was really fun and it was an intentional

• 6:39Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 6:40Speaker 01

  choice.

• 6:41Josh Horowitz?

  Is there a sense, I mean, like for those that have, probably most people that are listening to this podcast have watched Adam's work before, but like my sense is like, people are game. Like, I mean, this film alone, your performance, I mean, what, what Drew Starkey is doing here, what Dan Stevens is doing here, like props to everybody.

• 6:59Speaker 01

  Everybody goes for it.

• 7:00Josh Horowitz?

  Right?

• 7:01Speaker 01

  Everybody goes for it.

• 7:03Josh Horowitz?

  Is that something that's just like inherent to like the atmosphere Adam creates on set? It's a, it's into the DNA of the script? I mean, why do you think he attracts actors that are kind of willing to go for it?

• 7:14Speaker 01

  I mean, it definitely is Adam for sure, but I think for this one specifically, it's Adam coming back home to what he does best, what he's loved to do, the kind of movies that defined him as a filmmaker. He went off and did these big studio movies and out of what he's told me, I don't want to speak for him. He loved them, you know, he had so much fun, but there was a part of him that was missing, you know, he wasn't necessarily making his movies.

• 7:39Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 7:41Speaker 01

  And so it felt like a comeback story. So we were all game to be like, all right, this is Adam's passion project.

• 7:48Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, nothing about this feels compromised. It doesn't feel like, oh, someone in a studio was like, can we put this in here? Can we do that? No.

• 7:54Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no. No, not at all. Not at all. Quite opposite. You know, I think, for example, me having an eye patch on, like I've been trying my whole career to have a scar on my face and no studio allows me to have blood or scar on my face. You know, it's always like an arm, this, that, but I don't know, I've always, I just thought I would look cool. And no one's let me, except for Adam Wingard.

• 8:20Josh Horowitz?

  I mean, shades of John Carpenter. You can't think, you can't see like a, like an eye patch without thinking like snake pluscink, at least I can't, right? I mean, when do you, I know this isn't necessarily like an easy shoot, like what's, when do you on this set feel at your coolest and not your lamest on the set? Like what's the high and what's the low?

• 8:37Speaker 01

  There is not an easy day on set on this one for sure. Um, I think the beginning of the movie feels a little bit lighter for my character, but it's still, you know, it's, it's

• 8:49Speaker 01

  a performance like no other that I've done. So I think every time you step into someone's shoes that you've never, or like a character that you've never tackled, or the idea of a character that you've never tackled, I don't think there's an easy day on set. And I'm kind of neurotic in that sense. I'm like, I just want to do a good job, so I-

• 9:10Josh Horowitz?

  So is that constantly, is there a constant tension then for you? Like that's, I mean, is that a place that you like to live in as an actor where-

• 9:16Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, no, no. Maybe I'm describing myself wrong. I'm the prop master here, um, and the armor, Brett, who is the reason I look cool in this movie, he described me like pretty perfectly. He's like, you're like a wild horse. You just go for it. Like it's a small little direction. I'm like, I just jolt towards things. Um, no, I like to have fun.

• 9:40Josh Horowitz?

  Has that always been the case? I mean, because I've talked to a lot of actors where it's like, that's, that's where you want to be optimally, but a lot of times you get, sometimes you get burned by directors, by editors, et cetera. And it's like, you want to always get to that flow state on a set, but that's a lot of trust to put into a filmmaker.

• 9:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, I, I do trust Adam Wingard for sure. Um, I think you just have to, I don't know, just go for it. It, to me, it's a little bit more exciting than, than overthinking things. I'm not very analytical.

• 10:11Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 10:11Speaker 01

  When it comes to acting. I can be analytical about other stuff, but when it comes to acting, I'm not. It's like fully intuition. So when people sometimes ask me like, what's your style of work or what's your process? I'm like, I don't have one. I don't, I really don't. Every movie is different. Um-

• 10:31Josh Horowitz?

  I mean, that being said, you did, I mean, we'll get into the background now, if that's okay. Like you, you were trained, like you did the Lee Strasberg here in the, in the city. And that's hardcore, like acting, you know, that's-

• 10:41Speaker 01

  I mean, I did a whole conservatory at Lee Strasberg. Yeah, it was-

• 10:45Josh Horowitz?

  So is that, so like going through something like that, what did you discover about sort of what your process is, right? Like was, were you trying different kind of ways to do what you do now? Like, where are you at now versus where you were then?

• 10:59Speaker 01

  Oh, I had to shed a lot of stuff coming out of school.

• 11:01Josh Horowitz?

  Really?

• 11:02Speaker 01

  Yeah. And there's not, look, I think I've never been a school person. I've never liked school. I loved acting school. It created a community for me. It gave me so many tools, but when I started working, I had to unlearn a lot of stuff. I came with a lot of tricks and little things in my pocket and it just wasn't translating the same. At least not for me. I know actors that I went to school with that still follow. That it works really well for them, but I, I, I don't, yeah, it never worked for me. I, I, there's everything about method acting and, you know,

• 11:44Speaker 01

  replacing things and going back to it. I would always feel, sorry, there's a.

• 11:49Josh Horowitz?

  You're being attacked.

• 11:52Speaker 01

  There's always something about, like sense memory and all those things. It feels a little too self indulgent for me.

• 12:01Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 12:01Speaker 01

  I really bounce off of whoever is in front of me and like looking into somebody's eyes and

• 12:06Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 12:07Speaker 01

  making them react or having fun and just honestly just playing and just being a little kid and just trying to play and figure it out. Um, that seems to work a lot more for me. It feels a lot more organic and truthful.

• 12:22Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 12:22Speaker 01

  That's why I don't come in with so much shit of my own. I feel like sometimes it could be disruptive for me. I know a lot of people, it works. Um, I think the most important, if I were to have a process, it's sort of like,

• 12:39Speaker 01

  I don't know how to explain it, sort of gauging everybody else's process. I mean, like, all right, this director kind of works like this. Interesting. This actor works like that. How do I respect their boundaries and play with them? But yeah, I don't like.

• 12:55Josh Horowitz?

  Imposing your own kind of like.

• 12:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, I find that to be.

• 12:58Josh Horowitz?

  It's selfish. It can be selfish for an actor. I mean, I've had this conversation with a lot of actors and I, I appreciate what you're saying because yeah, and also where's the fun of it? If you've like done all the work? If you've done like all the work in your trailer and have like bring like a mannered performance that doesn't like have any conversation with anybody else, like you might as well be doing it.

• 13:16Speaker 01

  On your own?

• 13:16Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 13:17Speaker 01

  Or with a tennis ball?

• 13:18Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 13:18Speaker 01

  Like, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't have, I don't have fun that way.

• 13:23Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 13:23Speaker 01

  Um, I do, I can freak out some actors. I'm pretty spontaneous. Some people are like, whoa, what are you doing?

• 13:30Josh Horowitz?

  Is that changing the lines or just changing like movement or like what's, can you give me an example?

• 13:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, sometimes I'll do a couple of takes like word for word and then I'll ask for like.

• 13:39Josh Horowitz?

  One for me.

• 13:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, one for me, kind of, and, and do certain things. Sometimes it ends in the editing floor. Sometimes it ends in the movie, but you give an option in the edit room. And I think being a producer has allowed me to ask for.

• 13:55Josh Horowitz?

  Yes.

• 13:56Speaker 01

  One for me.

• 13:57Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 13:57Speaker 01

  Um, and those are always, yeah, those are always fun.

• 14:02Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 14:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:02Josh Horowitz?

  It shakes, it shakes it up on set too for everybody, hopefully, in a good way.

• 14:06Speaker 01

  In a good way. Yeah. I think my biggest talent is paraphrasing.

• 14:11Josh Horowitz?

  Getting the gist of it.

• 14:12Speaker 01

  Come at me. No one is better.

• 14:14Josh Horowitz?

  Meaning like kind of shortening what you, the gist, getting to the gist of the, the.

• 14:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, you give me a line. I could say that line in a different way. And it's by choice.

• 14:24Josh Horowitz?

  And I would imagine there are some, you've worked with a lot of different directors and there's some that are like, cool.

• 14:30Speaker 01

  Oh no, I know when to do it and when not.

• 14:32Josh Horowitz?

  Who's the list of the yes, yays and the nays? Like of the.

• 14:35Speaker 01

  Tony Gilroy is absolutely no.

• 14:37Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 14:37Speaker 01

  Because also it would, it would do a disservice. I would, I would be messing.

• 14:42Josh Horowitz?

  Poetry to what he's doing.

• 14:44Speaker 01

  Be messing myself up.

• 14:45Josh Horowitz?

  Yes.

• 14:45Speaker 01

  Um, if I were to change even a comma or a period in Tony Gilroy, it would not be okay. I would ruin the rhythm of a whole thing.

• 14:55Josh Horowitz?

  Sorkin level. You don't want to go near that.

• 14:57Speaker 01

  So I'm like, I know when to do it.

• 14:58Josh Horowitz?

  Sure.

• 14:58Speaker 01

  Richard Linklater, you explore everything in rehearsal.

• 15:04Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 15:04Speaker 01

  And you rewrite it and write it and rewrite it and write it. And then you explore more, you figure it out. And then once you get it, there is no improv on set.

• 15:13Josh Horowitz?

  Oh, interesting.

• 15:13Speaker 01

  Zero. Not.

• 15:15Josh Horowitz?

  That's the whole point of all the rehearsal process, everything. We get to the point where it's locked in.

• 15:19Speaker 01

  It's locked in. There's no questions on set. If there's a question on set, why didn't you ask it in rehearsal? Like you really exhaust every possibility and it's been one of the easiest movies I've, I've been in because we knew exactly what we were doing. We finished early. The mood on set was so light because nobody was figuring it out. I went to sleep in such peace because I knew what I did.

• 15:44Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 15:44Speaker 01

  I, I wasn't like, oh man, I should have tried that. Oh man, I had an instinct and didn't follow it.

• 15:49Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 15:50Speaker 01

  I followed every instinct. I fell so hard on some because you just have fun and you've, I mean, when I say that we would go to places and Rick would be like, what are you guys doing? And you just go to the craziest places because you're in a safe environment.

• 16:04Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 16:05Speaker 01

  Time is not,

• 16:08Speaker 01

  you know, time is not part of the equation.

• 16:10Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 16:11Speaker 01

  Because we're in rehearsal and we have all the time in the world. You know, we have three weeks.

• 16:14Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, I've never seen like a filmmaker. I've never been on the, on one of the sets, but like you can certain, you can kind of tell the vibe of a person relating to their set. Like my sense is like, he's such chill.

• 16:25Speaker 01

  So chill.

• 16:26Josh Horowitz?

  Like everything about him emanates that. And you describing a set sounds like that is Richard Linklater.

• 16:30Speaker 01

  And so fun and funny and laid back. It's like, what? I'm like, is this work?

• 16:37Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 16:37Speaker 01

  Me and Gunn were like, are we working?

• 16:38Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 16:39Speaker 01

  This is weird. Doesn't feel like work.

• 16:42Josh Horowitz?

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• 18:35Josh Horowitz?

  Okay, so let's go even further back. So, so growing up, what, what I know about you is dad, very successful singer songwriter. I don't know, like if you, were you on tour with him as a kid? So you have that experience. I would imagine that has to be impactful for you, given where you've ended up, like seeing your dad loving, being on a stage, performing. Like in retrospect, does that imprint on you in a profound way, you think, to why you do what you do?

• 19:03Speaker 01

  I think so. And to be fair, I, my biggest dream was always to be like a huge pop star.

• 19:09Josh Horowitz?

  That was the first one?

• 19:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was like, I want to be the next Britney Spears.

• 19:13Josh Horowitz?

  It's not too late.

• 19:14Speaker 01

  And I can't sing.

• 19:16Josh Horowitz?

  Okay, it's too late.

• 19:17Speaker 01

  It's too late. Like I never had a shot. I never had a shot, but no one broke my dream until I think my brother, or I had like a recorder and I recorded myself singing and then I played it back. I was like, that can't be true. That can't be true. That's not me. And I did it again. I was like, oh, I'm bad.

• 19:35Josh Horowitz?

  How old were you there?

• 19:36Speaker 01

  I'm really bad. Um, like 12 or 13. I'm like, at this point I'd been singing nonstop. I'm like, I feel so bad for my family.

• 19:45Josh Horowitz?

  Where's my contract? Guys, sign me up.

• 19:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, now. Dad, I want to sing a song with you on stage. He's like, no, Mami, that you're too young. We're too young. I was like, no, I just was really bad and no one wanted to help me.

• 19:56Josh Horowitz?

  No, that's sweet and sad at the same time.

• 19:59Speaker 01

  But I mean, it worked out. I'm, I'm, I'm good. And I still sing. I sing all the time.

• 20:04Josh Horowitz?

  Really?

• 20:04Speaker 01

  Badly, but I sing.

• 20:05Josh Horowitz?

  Hey.

• 20:05Speaker 01

  I love to sing.

• 20:06Josh Horowitz?

  Don't rob yourself of that.

• 20:07Speaker 01

  No, I sang in Switfield and Michael Covino really did not believe that I couldn't sing. I'm trying. I'm trying.

• 20:15Josh Horowitz?

  This is peak, Andrea.

• 20:17Speaker 01

  It's like the best I got.

• 20:20Josh Horowitz?

  Okay, we'll cross off Mamiya three for you, but you've got a lot of other things you can do.

• 20:24Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 20:25Josh Horowitz?

  Um.

• 20:26Speaker 01

  But, oh, back to the road. Sorry. Um, that's sort of, just because it like clicked in my head for the, not for the first time, but like, I've never really said this. I think adaptability is part of the process we were talking about earlier. And I think it's from being on the road and moving so much and having to be in different schools and meeting new friends and some people were older, younger and, you know, from all sort of corners of the world and you just sort of had to adapt. So I guess that's my, that's how I now look at a set.

• 20:59Josh Horowitz?

  Well, I was going to say, I mean, as you described that, that's an actor's lifestyle. That's like, you know, going from one carnival to the next, joining one company to the next. So like that, whether you knew it or not, was kind of being ingrained into you.

• 21:11Speaker 01

  Ingrained into me. And I'm so thankful because now I can, I don't know. I feel like I make little homes wherever I go.

• 21:17Josh Horowitz?

  Take a couple with you for the next one, like keep them on the phone, a couple more friends. Um, you seem to have, not to blow you up for a second, but you had really good taste in film and music. Like I, just listening to some other interviews that you've given, like anybody that can like go from like Adam McKay to John Cassavetes and love them both in equal parts, I respect. Anybody that can talk at length about like cinema parody, so I know he comes up.

• 21:41Speaker 01

  I love that movie.

• 21:42Josh Horowitz?

  I love that movie too. I mean, that's one of my, like Ennio Morricone is one of my all time.

• 21:47Speaker 01

  Oh my God. You literally said Ennio Morricone and like August Bumps, like that man.

• 21:52Speaker 01

  The reason I love film is that movie.

• 21:55Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, I saw.

• 21:56Speaker 01

  And, and you, I mean.

• 21:58Josh Horowitz?

  He, he performed here at Radio City like, you know, twenty years ago. And my wife got me tickets. We went and it was pretty special.

• 22:05Speaker 01

  I saw him too. I saw him in Budapest when I was doing Emerald City and it was, I don't know if it was one of his last, but he was, you know, he looked pretty frail.

• 22:14Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 22:15Speaker 01

  And it was funny how he took that, you know, so his dignity.

• 22:23Speaker 01

  Let me rephrase that. There's something about that man and that man's dignity that held so much power. He could barely walk and he had like an assistant that would help him walk and he was like, no, people are gonna wait for me to walk that. And he took a while to cross that stage.

• 22:40Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 22:40Speaker 01

  And we all stared in silence. He's like, no one's gonna help me. I'm gonna do it on my own. And I don't know, I, I found that to be fascinating and so old school and elegant.

• 22:50Josh Horowitz?

  Do you listen to, it's like, are movie soundtracks part of like your playlist?

• 22:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, big time.

• 22:56Josh Horowitz?

  Like at the gym, on a set, in all contexts, like when are you listening and what are you listening to? What are your go-tos?

• 23:03Speaker 01

  I mean, Sinan Baradiso is a huge one. Um, Last of the Mohicans is a huge one.

• 23:09Josh Horowitz?

  The last fifteen minutes of that movie is like basically the best ending of any movie ever, probably, right?

• 23:14Speaker 01

  It's amazing.

• 23:15Josh Horowitz?

  There's like no dialogue essentially.

• 23:16Speaker 01

  I agree with you one hundred percent.

• 23:18Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 23:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, I will listen to it on set. Um, at the gym, I don't, because I'll drift. Like these, I feel like movie soundtracks sort of make me escape and go somewhere else and imagine and, um, which I guess is what they're supposed to do. So at the gym is not a good thing if I'm like.

• 23:41Josh Horowitz?

  Drop that weight on me.

• 23:42Speaker 01

  I'll get really hurt. I'm already ADD though.

• 23:46Josh Horowitz?

  So the trajectory of your early life, your, I guess, are you trying to get serious like in Miami? Like, or did it take coming to New York and doing Lee Strasberg where you kind of got serious about the acting?

• 23:57Speaker 01

  I think I got serious in New York. I mean, in Miami, I did too. I, I did Miami Acting Studio. Ralph Kinnard was my professor and he was the one that pretty much pushed me to go to New York. He kind of like, he kind of kicked me out. He was like, if you stay in Miami, you're gonna do soaps. And I really believe that you got something.

• 24:20Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 24:21Speaker 01

  And there's more here. And he was the first person to tell me that I had something. I always thought I was, you know, I was really soft spoken. I still kind of am sometimes.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  And acting was kind of developing this other side of me and I was becoming more confident thanks to acting. I was speaking up a little bit more. And that was how it kind of started because I was, I was really shy. And then it turned into, oh, wait, I really love this. And then I became obsessed.

• 24:51Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 24:51Speaker 01

  And I would watch three movies a night. I was barely sleeping. I would come up with so many ideas at this, uh, the Miami Acting Studio and Ralph was like, I think it's, I think it's time for you to go.

• 25:03Josh Horowitz?

  So when he essentially kicks you out or pushes you towards New York, you get here, as we mentioned, Lee Strasberg happens or you're training there. Are you also doing like side hustles?

• 25:12Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah. Every, what, what side hustle? I did them all.

• 25:20Speaker 01

  I was a clown at little kids' birthday parties.

• 25:22Josh Horowitz?

  Were you a good clown?

• 25:23Speaker 01

  I think so. I don't know.

• 25:25Josh Horowitz?

  Did you have a shtick?

• 25:26Speaker 01

  The moms would always give me tips. So that's a good sign. I never got kicked out.

• 25:30Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 25:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, that, that was one of them. I was a waitress for a restaurant here. Got fired because I mispronounced the name of the restaurant. It was twelve hundred miles. It was, I don't even think that, no, the restaurant definitely does not exist. And I would answer the phone because I was a hostess. I would answer a thousand two hundred miles.

• 25:53Josh Horowitz?

  That's not a big, whatever.

• 25:54Speaker 01

  I know, but for months. I was like, a thousand two hundred miles? How can I help you?

• 25:58Josh Horowitz?

  One, two, zero, zero miles.

• 25:59Speaker 01

  One, two, zero, and I would spice it up too. I'm like, one, two, zero, zero. Change the rhythm. They're like, it's twelve hundred. I'm like, okay, I don't understand that American thing of fourteen hundred, twelve hundred. I mean, that, and it will never make sense in my head for some reason.

• 26:13Josh Horowitz?

  I can't defend it.

• 26:14Speaker 01

  I'm thinking. It, it, so I got fired for that. So now I hate it even more. You'll never hear me say twelve hundred. I'll always say one thousand two hundred.

• 26:24Josh Horowitz?

  You're scarred for life. Is there?

• 26:26Speaker 01

  I am scarred.

• 26:27Josh Horowitz?

  Are there any children's birthday clown scars? Is there any, is that, was that a fun job?

• 26:31Speaker 01

  That was so much fun.

• 26:32Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, you're making kids happy. You're like.

• 26:34Speaker 01

  Kind of easy and really funny. I mean, kids are so incredibly honest that, you know, they'll humble you.

• 26:40Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 26:40Speaker 01

  That's for sure.

• 26:41Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 26:42Speaker 01

  They're like, that, the painting you did on my face sucks. I'm like, you're not wrong.

• 26:46Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, you need a director to be that direct. Yeah.

• 26:48Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 26:49Josh Horowitz?

  What you just did sucked.

• 26:50Speaker 01

  So I can work with any director. I've worked with kids. I got it. I'm, I'm, I'm safe.

• 26:57Josh Horowitz?

  Um, is it safe to say, is True Detective essentially kind of the, the first big major job?

• 27:03Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 27:03Josh Horowitz?

  That really changed everything?

• 27:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:06Josh Horowitz?

  I mean, does anything ever equate to, like, you've had a lot of, like, really great phone calls, emails, et cetera, the last five, six years, I would imagine especially, but like that first job, that first kind of like major thing that you kind of like, as I understand it, kind of manifested, kind of chased, like when you get that.

• 27:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was huge.

• 27:22Josh Horowitz?

  Right?

• 27:22Speaker 01

  It was huge. I was with my dad in Mexico and I think you had just gotten off a show or something and we were having dinner and I could not, the whole restaurant found out about, that I got True Detective. Like, I was so, I could not, I really could not believe it. Because the story of that was, they were looking at a list of names.

• 27:44Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 27:44Speaker 01

  Like, they were like, oh, we have a list of like really famous actresses. And obviously, had not a single IMDB credit, nothing. I had just done Narcos.

• 27:54Josh Horowitz?

  Yep.

• 27:56Speaker 01

  But it was weird because it was, it was at the beginning of Netflix. Nobody really understood what Netflix was. So it didn't feel as big as, you know, HBO True Detective and it was season two.

• 28:05Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, I'm coming off of that first season, which was a phenomenon, legit.

• 28:08Speaker 01

  I can't believe, episode five is one of my favorite TV episodes ever. I think that chase is, that sequence is amazing.

• 28:15Josh Horowitz?

  Is that like the oneer you're talking about?

• 28:16Speaker 01

  The oneer, which it was like the first time anybody had done a oneer like on TV or something. I could be wrong, but I had never seen it.

• 28:23Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 28:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I pretended to be my, pretended to be my manager and I got myself that role.

• 28:30Josh Horowitz?

  You do a voice or are you just doing like?

• 28:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, I just did like a more serious version of my, my voice. Really focused on no accent.

• 28:39Josh Horowitz?

  Right. One thousand two hundred.

• 28:42Speaker 01

  One thousand two hundred Adria Arjona. I probably said, I probably mispronounced my own name. Just like intentionally, like, Adria is such a great actress.

• 28:56Speaker 01

  How do you pronounce the last Adriana, I believe? I'll get back to you on that one. Yeah, and I, I, I did the self-tape sent it and then when they called me, I was just like,

• 29:08Speaker 01

  I, I, I couldn't believe it.

• 29:09Josh Horowitz?

  This actually worked?

• 29:10Speaker 01

  Oh, I also lied and said I was a local hire.

• 29:13Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 29:14Speaker 01

  Which I wasn't. I live in New York. They filmed in LA. So I'm like, great, now I have to move to LA. And my mom's like, no, you don't. You just have to book yourself a, a, you know, a hotel.

• 29:26Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, extended stay.

• 29:27Speaker 01

  Extended stand or whatever. And I was like, um, and then I kind of calculated it and I was like, that's too expensive.

• 29:33Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 29:33Speaker 01

  So I moved to LA and I was like, I'm gonna move to LA. And it was my big moment. I got this, the cheapest hotel in downtown, which ended up crazily having a bomb there, a bomb threat when I was there. So we got kicked out of there and that, yeah, it was really scary. Um, not for my mom for some reason.

• 29:56Josh Horowitz?

  She was cool with it? She was like?

• 29:57Speaker 01

  No, she's like, I gotta go upstairs and get my stuff. I was like, mom, we gotta get out of here. There's like something really serious happening. There's cops everywhere. And my mom's like, no. And she got it in, in the elevator too. And when, and brought me with, brought me with her. And we took our time packing the room. I was like, what are we doing right now? This is crazy. What's happening? And we left. She's like, well, no, we don't have to come back.

• 30:24Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 30:25Speaker 01

  I was like, mom, we were never coming back. There's a threat in this hotel. Um, so that was like my.

• 30:31Josh Horowitz?

  All built character though.

• 30:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was my, welcome to LA.

• 30:36Josh Horowitz?

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• 31:00Speaker 06

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• 31:50Speaker 07

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• 32:26Josh Horowitz?

  Was this, so give me timeline wise, does Belko happen around here?

• 32:29Speaker 01

  Not yet.

• 32:30Josh Horowitz?

  Not yet?

• 32:31Speaker 01

  No, not yet. Belko came, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, it was, yeah, it was Belko right after.

• 32:42Josh Horowitz?

  Okay. Now, in this timeline, I did some research. You've had some close calls. Is it true you almost got the solo role, the Kira role that eventually went to Amelia Clark? I did some research. I figured it out.

• 32:56Speaker 01

  Well, I said I was, I guess I'm confessing this. I've always said it was a Star Wars show.

• 33:04Josh Horowitz?

  I've heard you say that. I did some math, did some research. I figured it out.

• 33:07Speaker 01

  Oh, so no one's told you. I just confessed.

• 33:09Josh Horowitz?

  No, no, no, you didn't. To be, honestly, to be clear, there actually was reporting at the time that listed your name as the.

• 33:15Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. Yeah. And funny enough, I worked with Phil and Chris for Los Riquis.

• 33:22Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 33:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, I worked with them. They gave me my first, well, Tyler Nelson, Michael Schwartz, and Phil and Chris gave me my first producing credit.

• 33:32Josh Horowitz?

  So can you take me through at least what the audition, the audition process was? Were you there with Phil and Chris? Were you reading with other actors?

• 33:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was with Alden.

• 33:41Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 33:41Speaker 01

  And it was Phil and, Phil and Chris were there, yeah.

• 33:45Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 33:46Speaker 01

  And it was, I was, I don't think I've ever been so nervous in my life. They put you in a suit and like my biggest dream ever was to be in a Star Wars movie. You know, I hadn't necessarily seen a Latin American woman like myself be in Star Wars. So it was like a big, it almost felt like I had to break that wall or at least somebody else or another Latin American should break that wall.

• 34:10Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 34:11Speaker 01

  And I would always root for them. But to be testing, it's like, oh my God, it's gonna, it's gonna be me.

• 34:18Josh Horowitz?

  Well, that's the thing. When you go through something like that and you come close, it's like you start to imagine like, this is the next five years of my life. The next 10 years, I've got three solo movies coming up for me. Was that like at that stage in your career, like a tough pill to swallow to?

• 34:31Speaker 01

  No, I never thought about like the sequels or anything. It was more the emotional attachment of will I ever be in just Star Wars? Like, I just wanted to be in Star Wars. And the fact that I had the opportunity to be a leading character in a Star Wars movie was like, wow, this would be insane. I didn't think too much of it.

• 34:52Speaker 01

  But yeah, and then Amelia got it and she's probably one of the best actresses out there. She's amazing.

• 34:58Josh Horowitz?

  It all worked out.

• 34:59Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, it makes total sense. Yes, that, that makes, that makes more sense and they did it and I'm so thankful that I didn't get it.

• 35:08Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, you wouldn't have gotten it.

• 35:09Speaker 01

  I wouldn't have been in Andor. And Bix is, you know, the only character I've tattooed on my body.

• 35:14Josh Horowitz?

  What's the tattoo?

• 35:15Speaker 01

  It's just a little X. You can barely even see it. It looks, I have so many moles, I look like a Chips Ahole. I do. Now that I said it, no one's gonna unsee it.

• 35:24Josh Horowitz?

  No, we'll forgive it. Okay, so wait, let's jump ahead since you mentioned Andor because I mean, I, like many, was obsessed with what you guys and Tony achieved on that. Like, he did the podcast, like the smartest man on the planet, intimidatingly smart, like.

• 35:37Speaker 01

  So smart.

• 35:38Josh Horowitz?

  Like truly.

• 35:39Speaker 01

  I know. That's why I listen to everything he tells me. And I do everything he tells, I'm like, yes, sir. Mm-hmm. I call him before every, every job.

• 35:47Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah. He's now a lifelong kind of mentor.

• 35:50Speaker 01

  And he's incredibly busy, incredibly smart, has a family, he has a whole life, he has, he's in the editing room constantly. Now he just directed a movie, which I can't wait to see. And he will always answer a phone call in the first two rings. Like, he's the classiest man in the industry, for sure.

• 36:12Josh Horowitz?

  So was that the arc of that character? Did you know it right from the start or was that an evolution in terms of like, did you know? I mean, literally, last shot of the series is, spoiler alert. When did you know kind of the extent of like where Bix would end up?

• 36:27Speaker 01

  I knew months before we started filming season two.

• 36:33Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 36:33Speaker 01

  He, but he, everything Tony says, he delivers. There's never any, if Tony tells you something, that's exactly how he's gonna do it.

• 36:43Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah. He's like the least BS guy on the planet.

• 36:45Speaker 01

  Less BS guy. So he's like, hey, let's, when I signed up for the show, first season, I hadn't read it and I was like, well, Tony, with all due respect, how can you expect me to sign up to something if I haven't read anything?

• 36:58Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 36:59Speaker 01

  And, you know, he's like, trust me, this is the character, whatever. And, and he trusted me and he gave me the first three episodes to read. This was after I auditioned and got the role and the whole thing. I was like, well, I need to, don't I need to read something?

• 37:13Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 37:15Speaker 01

  He sent me the script and then he told me, he's like, this character will change your life. And this is sort of where this character is gonna go. And everything he told me on that phone call happened. And then when it comes to season two, obviously, we expected to do four seasons or whatever.

• 37:33Josh Horowitz?

  The structure changed a bit.

• 37:34Speaker 01

  The structure changed. But even those beats that he promised me, they were there. He made sure that they were in there somehow. So I respect that a lot from him. So, yeah, I knew, I knew quite early.

• 37:49Josh Horowitz?

  Do you feel like the impact, I mean, you were talking, you've talked before about like, you know, seeing someone like that looks like yourself in that context in the Star Wars universe? Like, I would imagine you've had that experience now on the other side of it, of seeing like young girls.

• 38:01Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 38:02Josh Horowitz?

  Say something to you. That must be extraordinarily moving.

• 38:04Speaker 01

  Oh, no, I thought you meant seeing more Latin Ameri, like younger Latin American actresses.

• 38:08Josh Horowitz?

  Well, that too. But even just like, have you encountered, I would imagine you encounter young women, young aspiring actors that now have you as a model.

• 38:16Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, that's so scary.

• 38:19Josh Horowitz?

  No pressure.

• 38:20Speaker 01

  No pressure. Man, I hope I don't fuck up.

• 38:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I have. I have. And it's super inspiring, the questions that they ask. And

• 38:33Speaker 01

  yeah, I've met, I've met a few. I've also met just fans to be like, thank you for, you know, representing us and being someone that I'm like, oh, that could be me.

• 38:42Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 38:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, it's always really exciting, but also terrifying.

• 38:48Josh Horowitz?

  Right. That's the, you don't want to have that on you when you're doing the job, certainly.

• 38:52Speaker 01

  Can there be more Latin American actresses and they can look up to them too?

• 38:55Josh Horowitz?

  Spread the wealth. Yeah, exactly. I don't want to be the one person.

• 38:57Speaker 01

  I mean, we're now, I feel like a year, every year, we're more and more and more. And I see so many talented actresses just pop off and it's so exciting. I mean, it's, it's, I root for them.

• 39:08Josh Horowitz?

  Okay, a bunch, a bunch of random things for you. You're, you're, you're part of the Fortnite world in a very strange way.

• 39:17Speaker 01

  I was the first skin.

• 39:18Josh Horowitz?

  That's what I, as I understand it.

• 39:19Speaker 01

  Ramirez.

• 39:20Josh Horowitz?

  So that was just another job as, like back then, I would imagine. You had no idea what that was gonna turn into.

• 39:24Speaker 01

  The game hadn't come out, nothing had come out. They were under like crazy budget restrictions. It was like, it felt like filming in an indie.

• 39:35Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 39:35Speaker 01

  Like, they're like, well, maybe it'll work, maybe it won't. And then, I did it mostly for my little brother. And then he didn't play it until years later. I was like, thanks, dude. Appreciate it. Did this for you.

• 39:47Josh Horowitz?

  Have you played Fortnite? Are you a gamer?

• 39:49Speaker 01

  Mm-mm. Not. I'm like really bad at technology.

• 39:53Josh Horowitz?

  That's okay.

• 39:55Speaker 01

  I'm, I know, but I'm like desperately trying to be a Gen Z and technology is like not my friend. So I don't know how that works.

• 40:03Josh Horowitz?

  You don't have to. You're, you're part of it. You don't have to do the thing. You did the thing, rather. You don't have to play the thing.

• 40:07Speaker 01

  Right, right, right, right, right, right.

• 40:09Josh Horowitz?

  Right?

• 40:09Speaker 01

  Yeah. Thank you for that.

• 40:11Josh Horowitz?

  I don't know. I don't know. Is there a silver lining? I've talked to, Matt Smith is a buddy of mine. I've talked to him about Morbius a lot. It is what it is. It maybe didn't turn out the way everybody wanted. I don't know. I want to put words into your mouth. What's the silver lining of Morbius, if there is one for you?

• 40:31Josh Horowitz?

  I got her. I got her. I found the spot.

• 40:35Speaker 01

  Look, you live and you, you live and you learn. I was a, it was a great experience.

• 40:41Josh Horowitz?

  Sure.

• 40:42Speaker 01

  It wasn't, it was, it was a great experience. I got to meet Matt.

• 40:48Speaker 01

  I think it's funny.

• 40:49Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 40:50Speaker 01

  I think if you look at it with eyes of comedy, I think there's sparks in there. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not so sure.

• 40:59Josh Horowitz?

  Well, as I told Matt, you should know, I was on a flight once and I was sitting behind Keanu Reeves and he was watching Morbius on a plane. So.

• 41:08Speaker 01

  Don't break my heart.

• 41:10Josh Horowitz?

  I mean.

• 41:11Speaker 01

  I think Jana Reeves is amazing. He's like, then I've never met him. I like just, he seems so lovely. And I really want him to think I'm like, like, good.

• 41:20Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 41:21Speaker 01

  I, I don't think he thinks I'm good.

• 41:23Josh Horowitz?

  Well, let's not go there. Let's not go.

• 41:26Josh Horowitz?

  We'll get him some other movies. We'll get him some other stuff.

• 41:27Speaker 01

  I'm gonna get his email and start be like, watch this instead.

• 41:30Josh Horowitz?

  Spitzville. Can we give some love to Spitzville? Because not enough people saw.

• 41:34Speaker 01

  I love Spitzville. It was so much fun. Michael Covino is the wildest, funniest, most beautiful person I've ever met. He's the best. He came to the Onslaught premiere.

• 41:46Josh Horowitz?

  It's lovely.

• 41:46Speaker 01

  Kyle and him did. Yeah.

• 41:48Josh Horowitz?

  You've done a disproportionate amount of like, in a time where we're kind of like getting more conservative, like sexy films. Like, I mean, truly, like, Thomas Crown Affair looks like the sexiest film of twenty twenty seven. Like, Spitzville is essentially a sex comedy.

• 42:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:01Josh Horowitz?

  I don't really have a question here, except like.

• 42:03Speaker 01

  Josh, I'm kind of sexy.

• 42:06Josh Horowitz?

  Didn't.

• 42:06Speaker 01

  Kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. That was disgusting. Um.

• 42:12Josh Horowitz?

  Wonderful. That's our poll quote. That's our.

• 42:15Speaker 01

  That's good. How you're gonna start your interview, obviously. Got it. I did that to myself. It's okay.

• 42:20Josh Horowitz?

  You did it. Anytime your buddy, Jay, Jason's asked about you. That's all he says about you. She's hot.

• 42:25Speaker 01

  She's hot. Um.

• 42:28Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, I don't have the question. Well, let's ask, let's talk.

• 42:30Speaker 01

  I, well, to be fair, I think Spitzville is absolutely wild and I loved the conversation of open relationships and how Michael and Kyle sort of tackled that. I thought that was amazing. Hitman, I think, is like a romantic comedy thriller. And in a moment where romantic comedies felt like they were never gonna come back because the genres were being flipped and switched, I read Hitman and I was like, oh, I get it.

• 42:58Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 42:58Speaker 01

  Richard Linklater figured out a way to bring this sort of genre back. And then so many people not have done what Hitman did, but in different ways, you know, have reinvented it for, for themselves. And I think it was a cool discovery of like, oh, romantic comedies that we knew don't necessarily work as well. And then there was a time there where like, the man was the woman and the woman was the man. And we would watch and be like, I don't want to be that guy. I don't want to be that girl. This is weird.

• 43:28Josh Horowitz?

  Totally.

• 43:28Speaker 01

  Um, so it felt fresh and exciting and a little bit riskier. So I chose that. Onslaught's not very sexy. It's not very, it's not sexy at all.

• 43:39Josh Horowitz?

  Sure to somebody. I'm sure it's, there's something for everybody.

• 43:42Speaker 01

  And then Thomas Crown, you know, Thomas Crown is such a, it's such an iconic film and then getting to be directed by Michael and getting to work alongside Michael. I was like, yeah, and it's just like cat and mouse dynamic and I had never played that. Um.

• 44:00Josh Horowitz?

  I, it should be said, for those who don't know, I mean, you had to jump into that too. That must be a tough experience as an actor. I mean, jumping in midstream and that's a high profile film, a lot of pressure on Michael and the whole crew. Um, was it kind of, I can't imagine it was easy, but can you talk to me a little bit about like jumping into that?

• 44:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was challenging. You know, I, I got the role. Um, I got on a plane. I think it was like a Saturday, landed a Sunday. On Monday, I was on camera on a pretty easy day, but with a crew that's, you know, they didn't have a movie the day before. So it, every, the tension was on. And I remember I did my first shot and I got an applause, like a welcoming applause from the crew, which was the nicest thing any crew has ever done for me. Um, and I felt welcomed right away. I, we did play catch up for a second. You know, there's a lot of stuff that I was rereading the script every night. There was costume fittings, this, that, but Michael has such a beautiful energy when he films. He

• 45:02Speaker 01

  kind of makes you feel at ease and, and that he's got your back no matter what. So I was able to jump into it, you know. I was like, man, I'm ESL. It's a lot of lines. I need more time. And he's like, you got this. And because he just kept reinforcing the fact that I

• 45:18Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 45:19Speaker 01

  had it. I was like, okay, okay, you're right, you're right. Um.

• 45:22Josh Horowitz?

  Well, that trailer oozes, like, more than competence behind the camera. Like, that guy's got.

• 45:27Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. He's, he is insanely talented in front of the camera and, you know, off camera. He's incredible. He's such a good director, too.

• 45:37Josh Horowitz?

  Let's see. What other film should I ask you about?

• 45:41Speaker 01

  I think this is, we're running out of time, right? I think we don't have that much time. Um, I think it might be Lunch.

• 45:47Josh Horowitz?

  Lock the doors.

• 45:50Josh Horowitz?

  Okay, I'm not gonna get you into trouble. Don't worry.

• 45:52Speaker 01

  Oh, good God. Just gonna play with this for a second.

• 45:55Josh Horowitz?

  So you wrapped Man of Tomorrow. We're all very excited about this. This is James Gunn's new film. This is the Superman sequel. A couple of questions and you, I'm not out to get you in trouble. I promise you. Did you know what role you were auditioning for when you went in?

• 46:14Speaker 01

  Um, yeah.

• 46:16Josh Horowitz?

  Okay.

• 46:18Josh Horowitz?

  Did you, we're not gonna say what character you're playing, because who knows? It could be Maxima.

• 46:27Speaker 01

  No, no, no.

• 46:28Josh Horowitz?

  I'm just gonna say, here's, here's some context for you. I don't know if your buddy, Jason, who I've talked to him for many years, Momoa.

• 46:33Speaker 01

  What Jason?

• 46:34Josh Horowitz?

  Jason Momoa.

• 46:35Speaker 01

  Oh, Jason, my buddy?

• 46:36Josh Horowitz?

  Your buddy. Your partner, your partner. Jason Momoa, many years ago, I talked to when he was cast as Aquaman. The rumors were going around. And I said to him, there's this rumor going around that you're Aquaman. And he denied it. And he said to me, Josh, I'm not Aquaman. You can punch me in the face if I'm lying to you.

• 46:55Speaker 01

  I've heard this. I've heard this.

• 46:57Josh Horowitz?

  I was that guy. I'm that guy. And he let me punch him many years later. I mean, I bopped him back. I'm not gonna punch that guy. I'm not, I don't want any physical violence here. Don't get me wrong, but I'm just saying for context, I don't want laws.

• 47:09Speaker 01

  Make a bet.

• 47:10Josh Horowitz?

  I'm, I'll bet you five hundred dollars you are playing Wonder Woman.

• 47:13Speaker 01

  Okay. And what, what about Maxima? You gotta give one for one.

• 47:18Josh Horowitz?

  So I, I'll, I'll give you a hundred dollars. I'll give you five hundred dollars if you're playing Maxima.

• 47:25Speaker 01

  It feels like you're gonna lose either way. You're giving me five hundred dollars. I'll take this bet. I like this bet.

• 47:30Josh Horowitz?

  Wait, like.

• 47:30Speaker 01

  If I play Maxima, I get five hundred. If I play Wonder Woman, I'm like.

• 47:33Josh Horowitz?

  No, I get the five hundred. I get the five hundred.

• 47:35Speaker 01

  Oh, you get the five hundred?

• 47:36Josh Horowitz?

  Yes.

• 47:38Josh Horowitz?

  Would you take that bet with me?

• 47:42Speaker 01

  Five hundred dollars?

• 47:43Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 47:43Speaker 01

  It's a lot of money.

• 47:44Josh Horowitz?

  We can do it for charity. We can do it like, you know.

• 47:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, I like the charity element of it.

• 47:48Josh Horowitz?

  You want, you, we'll take that bet?

• 47:49Speaker 01

  Five hundred dollars you donate to one of my charities.

• 47:51Josh Horowitz?

  Exactly.

• 47:52Speaker 01

  Five hundred dollars I donate to one of your charities. It feels like.

• 47:55Josh Horowitz?

  This is a win-win, right?

• 47:56Speaker 01

  Win-win.

• 47:57Josh Horowitz?

  No matter what happens.

• 47:57Speaker 01

  Eye contact.

• 47:58Josh Horowitz?

  Unbroken eye contact.

• 48:03Josh Horowitz?

  Okay, without saying anything about the character, this was a fun experience. This is a full circle moment for you. You've worked with James and Peter way back when on Belco. Did it feel a little bit like, I don't know, it's a big set to be on, it's a lot of pressure, but still.

• 48:14Speaker 01

  No, it felt pretty full circle. It felt really, it felt really cool to just be, I have my little, I don't know if you can see my purse, but I have my little chain.

• 48:23Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 48:23Speaker 01

  You can see Superman. They gave that to me. Um, yeah, it felt really full circle and I, in an interesting way, I don't, I think we're the same people, you know. I've known Peter for a really long time. I've known James for a really long time. They're so incredibly successful. They're like the head of DC. They're all, you know. They just seem like the same cool, funny people.

• 48:46Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 48:46Speaker 01

  And I felt really refreshing to, to, I mean, I've seen them throughout the years, of course, and we've caught up throughout the years, but to see, I hadn't been on a set with them. Um, and it's always nice to go back on a set that you, in which you know people.

• 48:59Josh Horowitz?

  Of course.

• 48:59Speaker 01

  You know, it happened only to me and Andor did that happen where I got back and I was like, oh, I, I know everybody here and it, and it feels really refreshing and you're like, okay, I'm safe. I'm.

• 49:11Josh Horowitz?

  Especially if you're playing an iconic character, you want that security blanket. Would you say your costume is epic, iconic? Do you like your costume in the film?

• 49:22Josh Horowitz?

  You could say that if you're playing Maxima.

• 49:24Speaker 01

  I love, I, I love.

• 49:26Josh Horowitz?

  Unbroken eye contact. What happened to that?

• 49:30Josh Horowitz?

  Hello, I'm over here. Do you like your costume? I'm not asking you to, you shot the film. They can't fire you.

• 49:37Speaker 01

  Peter and James. You're killing me.

• 49:42Josh Horowitz?

  I'll let you go after this, I promise. Do, do you like your costume?

• 49:45Speaker 01

  I love my costume.

• 49:47Josh Horowitz?

  Cool.

• 49:48Speaker 01

  Really like my costume.

• 49:49Josh Horowitz?

  Okay. Can't wait to see it.

• 49:51Speaker 01

  Both great costumes.

• 49:52Josh Horowitz?

  What does that mean?

• 49:53Speaker 01

  Both, meaning the, both characters. Yeah. If you are a fan of the comic, both of them.

• 49:59Josh Horowitz?

  Maxima character, a fan over here, huge.

• 50:01Speaker 01

  They have great, they have great character. They have great costumes. I can talk.

• 50:06Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, we're good.

• 50:07Speaker 01

  I'm gonna do the rest of this interview in Spanish.

• 50:09Josh Horowitz?

  Something got hot in here, right? Okay, we're gonna, gonna end with this. I'll let you go, I promise. Happy second to his profoundly random questions. How you feeling? You good?

• 50:17Speaker 01

  No, I'm not good. Are you kidding me? My whole life is in the line and you're just fucking with me.

• 50:27Josh Horowitz?

  One might say you're fucking with me.

• 50:28Speaker 01

  I'm not. I'm so into secrecy and I don't like secrets. I hate secrets. I'm so mad at them.

• 50:37Josh Horowitz?

  Sounds like the wrong line of work. Okay. Profoundly random questions.

• 50:41Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 50:43Josh Horowitz?

  Dogs or cats?

• 50:45Speaker 01

  Uh, dogs.

• 50:47Josh Horowitz?

  What do you collect?

• 50:49Speaker 01

  I collect Vivian Westwood, uh, corsets. I.

• 50:54Josh Horowitz?

  That's a first here. I haven't heard that one before.

• 50:57Speaker 01

  I love them. I think they're amazing. Um, I collect all sorts of kind of little things. Anything orange, um, I will buy.

• 51:03Josh Horowitz?

  That's your color?

• 51:04Speaker 01

  That is my color, yeah.

• 51:06Josh Horowitz?

  Do you have a favorite video game of all time? Not Fortnite.

• 51:08Speaker 01

  I don't, I don't play video games, but, um, I do, I did like Pac-Man.

• 51:13Josh Horowitz?

  Okay, classic. I'll have you know, Dakota Johnson asked me this. I ask everybody this question. Would you rather have a mouthful of bees or one bee in your butt?

• 51:23Speaker 01

  She asked you that question?

• 51:24Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 51:25Speaker 01

  I had to go though. It's horrible.

• 51:28Josh Horowitz?

  I know.

• 51:29Speaker 01

  Um, I, maybe in my mouth.

• 51:31Josh Horowitz?

  Wow, minority.

• 51:33Speaker 01

  I don't want.

• 51:34Josh Horowitz?

  That's fine.

• 51:35Speaker 01

  I don't want that.

• 51:36Josh Horowitz?

  Okay, we're not gonna do it. Don't worry.

• 51:38Speaker 01

  I don't want that.

• 51:38Josh Horowitz?

  Okay. What's the wallpaper on your phone?

• 51:42Speaker 01

  My niece.

• 51:43Josh Horowitz?

  Lovely. Last actor you were mistaken for?

• 51:48Speaker 01

  Jessica Alba. Great. By the way, please, I hope it happens more. It like lifted my ego for a really long time. I was like, I said yes. I was like, see, yes.

• 51:59Josh Horowitz?

  Since City, great, right? Wasn't I, didn't I kill it?

• 52:01Speaker 01

  Wasn't I amazing in Honey? I honestly, I felt like, I felt like.

• 52:06Josh Horowitz?

  Highlight of your day.

• 52:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, it made my day.

• 52:10Josh Horowitz?

  What's the worst noted director has ever given you?

• 52:14Speaker 01

  Who? Um, oh, this is really bad.

• 52:20Speaker 01

  Do that with less of an accent and less domesticated.

• 52:24Josh Horowitz?

  That isn't good.

• 52:25Speaker 01

  It's horrible.

• 52:26Josh Horowitz?

  That's not good.

• 52:27Speaker 01

  It was, it was a, somebody overheard it and it was a problem. I didn't say nothing. I was like, okay, whatever. But yeah.

• 52:37Josh Horowitz?

  Hopefully that's early in the career, I would imagine.

• 52:39Speaker 01

  Yes, yes, yes. Um, it was like a scene where, and it was in a house and I was like, you know, organizing or whatever before I said my line. And he was like, less accent, less domestication, uh, don't being domesticated. So I was like, great. Be less Latina is what you're talking about. Awesome. Cool, cool.

• 52:56Josh Horowitz?

  What was the relationship like after that?

• 52:59Speaker 01

  Uh, I mean, with ignorance, you just have to, you're like.

• 53:02Josh Horowitz?

  You're not gonna.

• 53:02Speaker 01

  Ah, man. We're like, all right, well, now I'm not gonna listen to it.

• 53:06Josh Horowitz?

  Now I know.

• 53:06Speaker 01

  Anything you're telling me.

• 53:07Josh Horowitz?

  Exactly.

• 53:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:09Josh Horowitz?

  Good to know.

• 53:09Speaker 01

  No notes from you anymore, sir.

• 53:12Josh Horowitz?

  Uh, finally, in the spirit of happy, sad, confused, who's an actor that always makes you happy?

• 53:17Speaker 01

  Will Ferrell.

• 53:18Josh Horowitz?

  Yes.

• 53:18Speaker 01

  Love him. Or Jack Black.

• 53:21Josh Horowitz?

  Amazing. Will, Will was just here and it's magical in that scene.

• 53:24Speaker 01

  In this.

• 53:26Josh Horowitz?

  It's the best.

• 53:27Speaker 01

  A dream of mine is to meet, meet him, but I'm also scared to meet him.

• 53:30Josh Horowitz?

  He's exactly what you want him to be. He's the best. Movie that makes you sad?

• 53:35Speaker 01

  Hmm. Um, movie that makes me sad? Oh man, there's so many. It's hard to pick one.

• 53:41Josh Horowitz?

  I mean, cinema parody, so this is one of mine.

• 53:43Speaker 01

  It's kind of, it's, I don't know. It makes me hopeful for cinema and it's so beautiful in some anyways. Um, the last movie that made me cry was Project Hill Mary. That kind of broke my heart. It was so beautiful. But not sad. It didn't make me sad. A movie makes me sad. The Notebook.

• 54:02Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 54:04Josh Horowitz?

  Apparently Ryan Gosling movies make you cry.

• 54:06Speaker 01

  Apparently Ryan Gosling makes me cry.

• 54:08Josh Horowitz?

  That's our warning for today. He's got that special something. And finally, a food that makes you confused.

• 54:15Speaker 01

  Food that makes me confused. Hmm.

• 54:19Josh Horowitz?

  You don't get it. Why do people eat that? I don't, hmm. Just not for you.

• 54:23Speaker 01

  I don't understand eggplant.

• 54:24Josh Horowitz?

  Okay.

• 54:25Speaker 01

  It's weird.

• 54:26Josh Horowitz?

  That's come up a lot here.

• 54:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't, I don't like anything of it.

• 54:29Josh Horowitz?

  Is it the texture, the look?

• 54:31Speaker 01

  I hate the texture. I don't like the look. I don't like it.

• 54:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, eggplant's not, is not my thing. Beets too? I don't get it. Why do you, why would you do that to yourself? If you were confused about it?

• 54:48Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 54:49Speaker 01

  When you're eating it?

• 54:50Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 54:51Speaker 01

  And then after you're eating it, you'll also get confused.

• 54:54Josh Horowitz?

  Before, during and after.

• 54:55Speaker 01

  Before, during and after? Why would you do that again?

• 54:57Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, not me.

• 54:58Speaker 01

  And then add cheese to it? Psycho.

• 54:59Josh Horowitz?

  You could add chocolate. I would still hate it. I don't care.

• 55:02Speaker 01

  No. Go cheese and beets. No, not for me.

• 55:07Josh Horowitz?

  Do you feel good about what we did here today?

• 55:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:10Josh Horowitz?

  Ninety percent of it at least. We've been on a roller coaster of emotion. Hopefully I didn't get you fired.

• 55:16Speaker 01

  I'm okay.

• 55:17Josh Horowitz?

  You didn't do anything. It's okay.

• 55:18Speaker 01

  This was harder than filming onslaught.

• 55:20Josh Horowitz?

  Wow, that's, and I know enough about this movie to know that's a lot. Um, good full circle. You brought us back. Congratulations on onslaught. Yeah, you're well, you're well trained. Um, everybody check it out. Support Adria, Adam Wingard, the whole company. Um, great to connect with you today. Thank you for the time.

• 55:35Speaker 01

  This was so fun.

• 55:36Josh Horowitz?

  We did it.

• 55:37Speaker 01

  You're so good. But you didn't get me.

• 55:41Josh Horowitz?

  So close.

• 55:41Speaker 01

  Not this time.

• 55:44Speaker 02

  And so ends another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Remember to review, rate and subscribe to this show on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a big podcast person. I'm Daisy Ridley and I definitely wasn't supposed to do this by Josh.

• 56:02Speaker 06

  Most writers have written really terrible stories. My name is Vince DiGianni and I am no exception. The only thing different about me is that I kept them all. Now I'm gonna force my very talented actor friends to read them with me.

• 56:15Josh Horowitz?

  I wanna read that line. A man in his 50s or perhaps 40s if he was as large a smoker as the scent surrounding him suggested. Wow. Drag him, Vincent.

• 56:26Speaker 06

  There are teen slashers where every character sounds edgy as hell. There's sci-fi giants that read just a little bit too much like giant penises. And there's a murderer who enjoys musical theater for some reason. And occasionally, something I wrote 15 years ago will be much, much worse. Only after a few minutes did I realize that if I thought about a certain thing or said at a time when something was said or thought by, what am I reading? What does that mean? We're gonna laugh. We will probably cringe and I may even cry just a little bit. Listen to Character Development, a comedy podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.