Alanis Morissette asks about being brave... IN PERSON!
Hosted by Fortune Feimster, Mae Martin and Tig Notaro
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Alanis Morissette joins Fortune Feimster, Tig Notaro, and Mae Martin in the studio as the podcast's first-ever in-person guest. The hosts and their guest dive straight into deep, unfiltered discussions about emotional wholeness versus superficial wellness, the challenges of navigating conflict and repair, and personal moments of bravery. Alanis shares insights into her creative process, her upcoming Los Angeles residency Butterfly with a Machete, and a new Christmas album, while all three hosts reveal vulnerable personal stories about love, marriage, and personal growth. Along the way, the conversation balances profound psychological exploration with trademark comedic banter.
- Embrace wholeness rather than wellness by accepting both the difficult grief and the beauty of human experience. 12:54
- Approach interpersonal conflict as natural growth and practice quick conflict resolution rather than avoiding issues. 21:31
- Put aside political or ideological differences to find common human ground and build unexpected bridges with others. 22:43
- Maintain your multi-disciplinary interests and creative expressions rather than narrowing yourself down to a single archetype. 27:13
Chapters
- 0:02Podcast Intro and Host Banter
The hosts introduce themselves and joke about their awkward studio set-up before welcoming Alanis Morissette.
- 0:48Alanis Morissette Arrives
Alanis makes a dramatic entrance, spilling water and electronics, as the hosts react with excitement and nervousness.
- 2:41Hosts Introduce Alanis and Set the Stage
The hosts formally welcome Alanis, introduce her achievements, and set up the in‑person interview format.
- 5:13Alanis Shares Early Relationship Struggles
Alanis recounts a 2005 first date mishap and her fear of women, sparking a candid discussion about vulnerability.
- 12:53Discussion of Wellness vs. Wholeness
The hosts debate the concepts of wellness and wholeness, planning a future wellness weekend and exploring deeper emotional work.
- 18:27Sponsor Segments and Wrap‑Up
The episode features multiple sponsor plugs before concluding with final thoughts and a teaser for the next episode.
- 45:18Hosts Reflect on Personal Bravery
Tig, Fortune, and Mae share their own brave moments, such as leaving a marriage and moving to LA, illustrating the theme of courage.
- 49:57Shame and Healthy Shame Discussion
The hosts debate the concept of shame, distinguishing between harmful and healthy shame, and explore its impact on personal growth.
- 51:04Confronting Past Abuse and Recovery
A guest recounts leaving abusive relationships, battling addiction, and achieving sobriety, highlighting the courage required to face painful memories.
- 52:00Alanis Discusses Bravery and Marriage
Alanis talks about her brave decision to propose to her partner, highlighting the emotional risk and vulnerability involved.
- 53:08Top Surgery and Gender Identity Journey
The conversation shifts to the guest’s decision to undergo top surgery, reflecting on how it transformed her sense of self and well-being.
- 55:01Alana’s Musical Evolution and Leadership
Alana discusses how her music became a vehicle for empathy, her leadership style, and her commitment to supporting introverted artists.
Highlights
- 3:13
Alanis Morissette Arrives as First Gueststory
Mae Martin announces that legendary artist Alanis Morissette is the podcast's first-ever in-person guest, leaving the hosts in a state of delighted disbelief.
- 12:54
Wholeness Versus Superficial Wellnessinsight
Alanis explains her preference for wholeness over wellness, noting that true wholeness embraces the dark stuff, grief, and shame alongside beauty and upliftment.
- 22:43
Finding Common Ground Across Differencesstory
Tig shares a recent retreat experience where putting aside preconceived political and ideological certainty allowed her to genuinely connect with someone holding vastly different views.
- 27:13
Resisting the 1990s Career Pigeonholinginsight
Reflecting on her career, Alanis discusses how record executives warned that being a multi-hyphenate artist was career suicide in the nineties.
- 32:47
A Memorable Encounter with John Ritterstory
Alanis shares an amusing anecdote about being too starstruck to speak when she first ran into her idol John Ritter on a bicycle at a gym.
- 51:04
Mae's Journey of Recovery and Top Surgerystory
Mae opens up about the bravery involved in getting clean, confronting past trauma, and undergoing top surgery as a non-binary person.
- 1:07:18
Tig's Vulnerable Marriage Proposalstory
Answering Alanis's question about the bravest thing ever done, Tig recounts the vulnerability of telling her now-wife Stephanie just a month into dating that she wanted to marry her.
Quotes
“the cockroach-like perseverance and tenacity of just continuing to keep going”
Unnamed speaker · 54:43 “I love leading all the different styles. Like if I don't, if I'm not needed, I lean out. If I'm really needed, I'm right there. I love it. Leading is cool. So many ways too. Different styles.”
Unnamed speaker · 57:33
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About this episode
This is HUGE! Alanis Morisette joins Handsome in-studio to recap her Handsome interactions and ask an *iconic* question about Tig, Fortune, and Mae's bravest moments. We're still stunned this actually happened! NEW MERCH at handsomepod.com http://handsomepod.com/! Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.com http://handsomepod.com/Watch Handsome on YouTube http://youtube.com/@handsomepod and Hulu https://www.hulu.com/series/b583d0bc-eeb0-4560-8b2b-5c8ae0248a19?play=false&utm_source=shared_linkThis is a Headgum https://headgum.com/ podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter https://x.com/headgum, Instagram https://www.instagram.com/headgum/, and Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum. Advertise on Handsome https://gumball.fm/shows/handsome via Gumball.fm http://gumball.fm/. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Transcript
12,613 words · 7 speakers
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