Jake Johnson asks about special human connections

Comedian and actor Jake Johnson (New Girl, We're Here to Help) asks about the special "glue" that connects us as human beings! Plus hikin', bikin', and a third thing... Ginger en route to LA, a menage a trois proposition, and more! Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.com http://handsomepod.com/Watch Handsome on YouTube http://youtube.com/@handsomepod and Hulu https://www.hulu.com/series/b583d0bc-eeb0-4560-8b2b-5c8ae0248a19?play=false&utm_source=shared_linkThis is a Headgum https://headgum.com/ podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter https://x.com/headgum, Instagram https://www.instagram.com/headgum/, and Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum. Advertise on Handsome https://gumball.fm/shows/handsome via Gumball.fm http://gumball.fm/. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  This is a HeadGum Podcast.

• 0:18Tig Notaro?

  Oh, welcome to the Handsome Pod. It's your friend Tig. I'm sitting here with my co-host.

• 0:23Mae Martin?

  Mae Martin.

• 0:25Fortune Feimster?

  And Fortune Feimster.

• 0:27Tig Notaro?

  It has been a beat.

• 0:28Mae Martin?

  It's

• 0:29Tig Notaro?

  Where'd we begin?

• 0:30Fortune Feimster?

  Beat.

• 0:31Tig Notaro?

  It has been a beat.

• 0:33Fortune Feimster?

  That reminds me of a Bo Burnham bit. He said something about it's a beat and he pulls up a thing of beats.

• 0:41Mae Martin?

  Why didn't we think of that?

• 0:42Fortune Feimster?

  I know.

• 0:43Tig Notaro?

  Why did he think of that?

• 0:46Mae Martin?

  Why did he think of that?

• 0:49Mae Martin?

  Guys.

• 0:51Fortune Feimster?

  Yay. Guys, I missed you.

• 0:54Tig Notaro?

  And I you. And I you. May, you were in Europe, right?

• 0:58Mae Martin?

  I was in Europe. Yeah.

• 0:59Tig Notaro?

  How was that?

• 1:00Mae Martin?

  You look super tanned Tig. You look like you've been in Europe. Yeah.

• 1:04Tig Notaro?

  Well, I've been in Colorado hiking, biking and diking.

• 1:08Mae Martin?

  Yes.

• 1:09Fortune Feimster?

  Hiking, biking and diking might be a new shirt.

• 1:15Mae Martin?

  And which of the, which of those three things was your favorite, has been your fave? That's the diking, I guess.

• 1:22Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, but I do love hiking. I'm about, I'm about to gear up for a very intense full day 12 mile hike to Ascom.

• 1:34Mae Martin?

  Oh my God. 12 miles.

• 1:37Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, like over the river and through the woods.

• 1:41Mae Martin?

  No.

• 1:42Tig Notaro?

  Switchback trails over boulders.

• 1:47Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I'm about to do that.

• 1:50Fortune Feimster?

  Wait, but why? Are you being forced to?

• 1:55Tig Notaro?

  It's a, it's a famous hike in, in Colorado. And yeah, I just, I, I, it's funny because I had, I had told my, my friends who are gonna do this with me. I was like, I was like, I'm so excited to work towards this hike. And, and I just, I came up with this idea that we should all just pick a beautiful place in the world that has like a really cool long trek or hike. And, and we just travel there every year and we do it. And

• 2:34Mae Martin?

  I'm in. I know you weren't gonna ask him, but I'm in.

• 2:37Tig Notaro?

  But they were like, they were like, yeah, let's do it. And, and I was, I think I was texting with them. And then I was on a flight when I had this idea. And when I landed, my knee was killing me from the flight.

• 2:50Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 2:52Tig Notaro?

  Maybe I spoke too soon.

• 2:56Mae Martin?

  It was too Kilimanjaro.

• 2:57Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, if I can't, if I can't successfully fly three hours without my knee hurting me, maybe we should take baby steps. But actually, I, I've been in, in great shape and I'm feeling really good. I've been training by doing nearly 10 mile hikes.

• 3:22Mae Martin?

  I can't conceptualize, like, how long does that take? 10 miles?

• 3:26Tig Notaro?

  Uh, well, sometimes it's not all, it's not all together. It'll just be just keeping myself active and moving all day. Like, maybe I'll do an hour hike, which is about, I don't know, two and a half or three miles.

• 3:46Mae Martin?

  Wow.

• 3:47Tig Notaro?

  Maybe four mile. I really don't know. And then I'll, and then I'll hang out, grab lunch with my family, and then I'll go hike again.

• 3:55Mae Martin?

  You're addicted, dude.

• 3:56Tig Notaro?

  Well, I'm trying to, it's weird. When you train for something, you don't fully do the thing that you're training for. You just do bits and pieces. And I've also been working out with a trainer a couple of days a week.

• 4:10Mae Martin?

  Oh my lord.

• 4:11Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. Nothing like, my body is not gonna look like Mae Martin, but I'm just trying to work on my leg strength and

• 4:18Mae Martin?

  Trying not to look like Fortune Feimster.

• 4:22Tig Notaro?

  Don't talk about my friend like that. I'm trying to find a happy medium between May and Fortune.

• 4:31Mae Martin?

  You're tiny.

• 4:33Fortune Feimster?

  I've fallen off it in a big way. In, in Italy, I was just drinking wine, eating pizza, pasta, ice cream every day.

• 4:41Tig Notaro?

  That's what you do. You eat pasta.

• 4:43Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, it's so good. Sorry, pasta.

• 4:46Tig Notaro?

  But I mean, what do they say when in Rome, right?

• 4:48Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 4:49Mae Martin?

  What they do say Tig.

• 4:50Tig Notaro?

  That is what they say.

• 4:52Fortune Feimster?

  I say that when not in Rome.

• 4:55Mae Martin?

  I got a tan. I was super tanned when Fortune and I did our mini episode, but I will say that, girls, maybe you can relate to this. I put on makeup to do this and my makeup is too pale.

• 5:08Fortune Feimster?

  Wait, to do what? Wait, do you have a lip taint?

• 5:10Mae Martin?

  No lip taint, but I put on some makeup to record the pod. It's like way paler than my tan. So there's a tan under it.

• 5:18Tig Notaro?

  Makeup on right now.

• 5:19Mae Martin?

  Hell yeah.

• 5:20Fortune Feimster?

  Okay, let's get up closer to the camera real quick.

• 5:23Tig Notaro?

  I can't see.

• 5:24Mae Martin?

  I wanna take, so, I wanted to, because I swear I'm tanned under it. I got it. I've never had to buy a darker shade of makeup, but

• 5:31Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 5:31Mae Martin?

  Maybe that's what I gotta do.

• 5:33Tig Notaro?

  I've never had to buy makeup.

• 5:35Mae Martin?

  You gotta have a bit of concealer in the old cupboard.

• 5:38Fortune Feimster?

  And a lip taint.

• 5:39Tig Notaro?

  You know, I do have mascara. I have mascara. And I put it on when I have a special night, when I'm going out, but nobody notices.

• 5:47Mae Martin?

  Diking, biking.

• 5:48Fortune Feimster?

  I don't, I don't put it on unless I have a glam person at my house for an event.

• 5:54Tig Notaro?

  Oh, okay. Yeah.

• 5:56Fortune Feimster?

  People have given me, I, what do you call it again? Mascara.

• 6:01Tig Notaro?

  Eye mascara.

• 6:02Fortune Feimster?

  It always goes bad because I never use it.

• 6:07Tig Notaro?

  Hold on. Speaking of, of, of people coming when you have a special event, you had a special event. Your TV show came out.

• 6:16Mae Martin?

  Yes.

• 6:16Fortune Feimster?

  Yes.

• 6:17Tig Notaro?

  Congrats to you.

• 6:19Fortune Feimster?

  Thank you.

• 6:20Tig Notaro?

  On the release of The Hawk.

• 6:21Mae Martin?

  The Hawk.

• 6:24Tig Notaro?

  And we must go to the star meter. Thomas, can you tell us?

• 6:29Mae Martin?

  Oh, I think it's

• 6:32Mae Martin?

  I think we're overdue.

• 6:33Fortune Feimster?

  Oh my God, you guys. This is, this is a big deal. We still don't know exactly what it means, but it's a big deal.

• 6:41Mae Martin?

  I, I still think it might be just

• 6:44Tig Notaro?

  Was the number one star in the world.

• 6:46Fortune Feimster?

  Was the number one star, which that's a really big deal.

• 6:48Mae Martin?

  One person who is in charge of this. I think it's one guy.

• 6:52Fortune Feimster?

  I think it's based on like

• 6:54Mae Martin?

  We've talked about this so much.

• 6:56Fortune Feimster?

  And stuff here and

• 6:58Mae Martin?

  The star meter is such a big part of this podcast.

• 7:02Fortune Feimster?

  People were commenting on my pictures, like when I said, oh, The Hawk is number one. Thanks for watching. They were like, what's your star?

• 7:08Tig Notaro?

  Oh, it's number one on Netflix?

• 7:10Fortune Feimster?

  It was number one for like nine days and now I think it's three.

• 7:14Mae Martin?

  That's amazing, dude.

• 7:16Fortune Feimster?

  Airing of this podcast, it's probably out of the top 10 by now.

• 7:19Mae Martin?

  I hope to get another season. That's sick.

• 7:21Fortune Feimster?

  I know. And May was in there too. We played, we had masks and, and guns. We were bad guys.

• 7:28Mae Martin?

  I've binged it and I'm not being humble. Even my parents agreed that my acting in it is like I'm in The Departed. It's like I'm, I thought I was in a Martin Scorsese drama.

• 7:42Fortune Feimster?

  You were intense.

• 7:43Mae Martin?

  I was intense. Everyone else is being so funny and I'm like, I didn't know what to do. And I just am so serious.

• 7:50Fortune Feimster?

  They clearly wanted it or they would have told you otherwise.

• 7:53Tig Notaro?

  Well, that's so great.

• 7:55Mae Martin?

  It's also the only

• 7:56Fortune Feimster?

  And your hair was dark. That was fun seeing you as a, as a girl.

• 8:01Tig Notaro?

  And why didn't I, where was I when I didn't get to do my part?

• 8:06Fortune Feimster?

  I don't know. On a call on a hike.

• 8:09Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I was probably diking in the mountains.

• 8:12Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 8:12Tig Notaro?

  Okay, drum roll please.

• 8:14Fortune Feimster?

  Okay.

• 8:15Speaker 04

  As of today, Fortune Feimster is up 71 spots and is number 50 on the IMDb star meter.

• 8:23Tig Notaro?

  That is, that's really good. That is

• 8:27Fortune Feimster?

  I'll take, I think that's the highest I've ever been.

• 8:30Tig Notaro?

  Okay, and where is May?

• 8:34Mae Martin?

  Can I guess?

• 8:35Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, give a guess.

• 8:36Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 8:36Mae Martin?

  In the thousands.

• 8:38Tig Notaro?

  Okay, but which thousands?

• 8:40Mae Martin?

  2,500.

• 8:42Tig Notaro?

  Oh, okay.

• 8:42Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, because normally I'm in the thousands or 2000s.

• 8:47Speaker 04

  As of today, May, it doesn't say a specific number. It just says May is in the top 500.

• 8:53Tig Notaro?

  Oh.

• 8:54Mae Martin?

  Oh.

• 8:55Tig Notaro?

  Look at that. Okay. And then let's see where Tig.

• 9:03Tig Notaro?

  10,000.

• 9:05Speaker 04

  As of today, again, it doesn't say a specific number, but may or Tig is in the top 5,000.

• 9:14Fortune Feimster?

  Whoa.

• 9:15Tig Notaro?

  The highest I've ever been.

• 9:18Fortune Feimster?

  Not true. Hold on. I wonder if I can.

• 9:21Mae Martin?

  Can we check where Will Ferrell is?

• 9:24Speaker 04

  I don't have IMDb Pro, so maybe.

• 9:26Fortune Feimster?

  I do have IMDb Pro, so I can find the actual number.

• 9:30Mae Martin?

  Are people tuning out at this point?

• 9:32Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 9:35Fortune Feimster?

  Tig is, this is where I'm normally at along you. It's, it's when you have something come out where your star meter really rises. Tig's at 3,351.

• 9:45Mae Martin?

  Fortune does what I normally am.

• 9:47Tig Notaro?

  Fortune, don't try and help me through this. Let your star shine, okay? Just take this moment.

• 9:55Fortune Feimster?

  Wait, but I'm gonna do the graph.

• 9:59Mae Martin?

  You're gonna make a graph?

• 10:00Fortune Feimster?

  No, I can look at a graph to see where.

• 10:06Mae Martin?

  I don't think we should get obsessed with the star meter. I think it could ruin our lives. Oh, Will's number 34.

• 10:11Tig Notaro?

  It's the most clear understanding of where your career is and it's important to live by it. And right now Fortune is the biggest star, then May.

• 10:25Fortune Feimster?

  It's no number one, but it is the best I've ever done, so I'll take it.

• 10:29Tig Notaro?

  That's really good. Congrats on your number 50.

• 10:33Fortune Feimster?

  May is currently 363.

• 10:36Tig Notaro?

  Okay. That's still really good, little cowboy.

• 10:39Mae Martin?

  I'll take it. Wait, Tig, I saw a clip of you on Who Wants to be a Millionaire?

• 10:46Tig Notaro?

  Oh.

• 10:47Mae Martin?

  How was that?

• 10:49Fortune Feimster?

  Will is number 34, just so we know.

• 10:51Tig Notaro?

  Will's 34. Okay. I want, I want to be a millionaire. That's not the title.

• 10:56Mae Martin?

  I want to be a millionaire. That's what it should be called.

• 11:01Tig Notaro?

  I have to say, you know, I talk all the time about how I only have a seventh grade education and I was a failure dropout. It really showed on that. I didn't have any information.

• 11:13Fortune Feimster?

  That was me on Celebrity Jeopardy.

• 11:15Tig Notaro?

  I had no information. I'm sitting there with Pete Holmes, who is a very smart guy. He knows a lot of stuff.

• 11:23Mae Martin?

  On a bunch of different things too.

• 11:25Tig Notaro?

  A bunch of different things. And he's, you know, he's just, he's, he's a, he's a heavy hitter in the, you know, comedy, like, I just was sitting there like quietly, like, I don't know.

• 11:37Mae Martin?

  I bet that was really funny though.

• 11:40Fortune Feimster?

  Don't you have four guesses? Like, four things to choose from?

• 11:44Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know.

• 11:47Fortune Feimster?

  You couldn't guess and just pretend like be confident in your guess?

• 11:51Tig Notaro?

  I didn't know. I didn't know.

• 11:53Mae Martin?

  But the pressure must be so intense, the music.

• 11:57Fortune Feimster?

  I think I got asked to do this. I would, I think I would have been in the same boat as you.

• 12:02Tig Notaro?

  I don't know. I mean, you seem like you have a lot of information. You and, and I thought about you both. You both seem like you would do well in that. And I just, I just didn't. And that's fine. You know, I have other strengths. I.

• 12:15Fortune Feimster?

  You have a lot of strengths.

• 12:16Tig Notaro?

  Did I, did my episode air already?

• 12:19Mae Martin?

  I don't know. I just saw a clip on Instagram. You're still off the gram, right?

• 12:23Tig Notaro?

  I still, I am, I am. But I have, you know, I don't know if I've told you, there might be a day I come back.

• 12:30Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 12:31Tig Notaro?

  And have my assistant post.

• 12:34Mae Martin?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 12:35Tig Notaro?

  Because I have shows, my shows have to be promoted and I have some other things. You know how you kind of contractually have to

• 12:44Tig Notaro?

  promote things? So there might be a day that I'll come back, but I still don't have an interest in seeing it.

• 12:49Mae Martin?

  Yep.

• 12:50Fortune Feimster?

  Every now and then, well, your assistant can post about your shows and then every now and then your assistant could post something about you diking.

• 12:58Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that would be great. Just so we know you're still out there diking.

• 13:01Tig Notaro?

  Well, maybe I'll come back. Maybe I'll come back once I get to Aspen and I'll, I'll give her some clips of me.

• 13:12Mae Martin?

  To celebrate. 12 miles. I didn't really look at it in Italy.

• 13:16Tig Notaro?

  You didn't look at it?

• 13:17Mae Martin?

  There were days where I didn't even look at my phone till 5:00 PM. That felt amazing. And I was just, there were three small children traveling with us. So I've never really had a trip like that. And it was.

• 13:29Tig Notaro?

  How did you get three children?

• 13:31Mae Martin?

  Just picked them up at the airport.

• 13:33Tig Notaro?

  Oh, that's nice.

• 13:38Mae Martin?

  Checking Allstate first could save you hundreds on car insurance. Not checking that I get enough pizza for everyone before calling in an order? Mama mia, I did my pizza math wrong and now we're completely out of pies, but not completely full.

• 13:50Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, checking first is handsome. So check Allstate first for an auto quote. They could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary, subject to terms, conditions, and availability. Allstate North American Insurance Company and Affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois.

• 14:09Mae Martin?

  It was Parv and her daughter and then another family with two kids. And it was hilarious. We invited, well, they're friends. They're Parv's friends and now my friends. And it was really hilarious. But man, just like trying to get kids to shower after the beach and put sunscreen on and drink water. And, and you're like, I'm trying to save your life. I'm not like, like I'm, I don't want to be telling you to do this. Yeah, it's crazy. But it was really fun.

• 14:40Speaker 04

  Can I go back to Who Wants to be a Millionaire and share something about that?

• 14:45Fortune Feimster?

  Please.

• 14:47Speaker 04

  So a few weeks ago, I was, I got a text and it was from a producer of Who Wants to be a Millionaire? And they said, hey, you've been selected to be Tig's phone friend. Something you can do. And I was like, oh my God, absolutely. Like this is so exciting. I grew up watching the show with like my parents and my grandparents and like all sitting around the TV during like the Regis era. And I was like, and I love trivia. And I was like, oh my God, I'm so excited about this. Like this is amazing. I told the producer like, yes, absolutely. I will do this for Tig. So she calls me, she gives me all this info.

• 15:32Tig Notaro?

  The producer, not me.

• 15:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, the producer.

• 15:34Mae Martin?

  Okay.

• 15:35Speaker 04

  Like be by your phone at this time. You're not allowed to like use your computer. So like, you know, promise not to cheat, basically.

• 15:43Mae Martin?

  Wait, it's just a promise?

• 15:45Tig Notaro?

  Don't go clink, clink, clink, clink.

• 15:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was a shock to me. They were like, don't.

• 15:48Mae Martin?

  It's an honor system?

• 15:49Speaker 04

  And I was like, I promise not to Google.

• 15:51Mae Martin?

  And you're clink, clink, clink, clink, clink.

• 15:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. Well, I did think about it. I was like, this is for charity. Like what is the ethical, like ethically should I get the, you know, should I cheat or not? But I decided I'm not going to cheat. Like, I would like.

• 16:06Tig Notaro?

  Thomas is not a cheater.

• 16:08Speaker 04

  For real. I want to do it for real because I wouldn't feel good if I had just like Googled it, you know? I wanted the story of like, I saved the day or whatever.

• 16:16Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 16:17Speaker 04

  And then I asked, I was like, you know, how many people end up using their lifeline? And she's like, everyone ends up using all their lifelines. So just stay by the phone.

• 16:27Fortune Feimster?

  Did you not use one lifeline, Tig? Did you forget about them?

• 16:31Speaker 04

  And, and she was, she was like, there's a window, you know? So like, it might be in these like couple hours. So I wait till the time she texts me. She's like, be ready, Tig and Peter on stage. Like be ready to go. And I'm like, sitting on my couch. It's like Saturday in the middle of the day.

• 16:48Mae Martin?

  Adrenaline.

• 16:48Speaker 04

  Laura's next to me and I like can't even do anything because I know this call is going to come. I start frantically like Googling like capitals of the United, or capitals of the world.

• 17:00Fortune Feimster?

  For sure, yeah.

• 17:01Speaker 04

  All of the list of the names of the presidents.

• 17:03Tig Notaro?

  I had no idea this was going, I've never heard this story, by the way.

• 17:07Speaker 04

  I'm cramming in an insane way that makes no sense. Just of like, what are the facts? Like it could be literally anything. The other thing they tell you is you only have 30 seconds.

• 17:17Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, that's what stresses me out.

• 17:19Speaker 04

  30 seconds is the total time for them to read you the question and answer it. So I just do everything I can. Laura's like, you just have to wait for the, for the call. Like just calm down. And then I see my phone starts buzzing and I like jump out of my chair and it's a text and it's like, they won't be needing you today. They're out.

• 17:44Speaker 04

  I don't know still. I don't know, but I haven't watched the episode.

• 17:48Mae Martin?

  You thought you had the right answer.

• 17:50Fortune Feimster?

  Wait, do we know, should we know if it aired for sure?

• 17:53Speaker 04

  It aired. It's airing tonight. So.

• 17:57Tig Notaro?

  It's airing tonight. Okay. Oh, boy. I'm so embarrassed. I knew nothing. Um, but, uh, but yeah, there was something, there was some question where we were like, really, really sure that we, we were like, yeah, that makes the most sense. Of course it's that one.

• 18:16Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, cause you play with a partner?

• 18:17Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 18:19Mae Martin?

  This is for charity. Pete and Tito. And do you remember what that question was?

• 18:23Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, it was something about, um, like, like dishware, like a kind of brand, like, do they do checkerboard or do they do this kind of design or do they, and I, and we were like, oh, it's for sure this other, like it's bees.

• 18:41Fortune Feimster?

  But you can only phone a friend during one question? I thought you could phone a friend at any time.

• 18:46Mae Martin?

  No, you can, you can, but they thought they were, they thought they were right.

• 18:52Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, because if you get it wrong, you're done.

• 18:54Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 18:55Tig Notaro?

  And so we were.

• 18:56Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, no.

• 18:57Tig Notaro?

  I know. And so we were like, oh my gosh, it's for sure this one. And then only to find out it was the checkerboard print. And then when I talked to Stephanie, she goes, we have that stuff all over our house. We use that brand. That's our soap dispenser. That's the, remember this thing? And I'm like, oh my God, yes. I do recall that is all over our house. So, um.

• 19:24Mae Martin?

  That's very funny.

• 19:25Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. Anyway.

• 19:26Speaker 04

  Well, I'm sure you did your best, but I can't wait to see the question because my, my question is, would I have known the answer?

• 19:33Tig Notaro?

  But it's that one. It's that one.

• 19:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:36Tig Notaro?

  That I just said.

• 19:37Speaker 04

  I don't know that I would have, that doesn't sound familiar.

• 19:39Tig Notaro?

  Well, and when I called Stephanie, I go, okay, it was this question, like, how would we have known? And she goes, it's blah, blah, blah, brand. And she goes, we have that in our house. I was like, oh my God.

• 19:53Fortune Feimster?

  I wonder if I would do better at that show. Celebrity Jeopardy, I did not enjoy because I did not realize how much anxiety I have trying to do the buzzer and competing against other people and the time it like, my, my brain was like leaving my body. Every time you had to do the buzzer and I was like, I hate this.

• 20:13Mae Martin?

  Oh my God. I always remember the one famous episode where that guy got down to the, he was at the final question and he had to phone a friend. And so he was like, I'm going to call my dad. I forget what the question was, like British history or something. And his dad's like, hello. And, and he's like, okay, you've got 30 seconds on the clock. Uh, go ahead. And he's like, dad, I just want to say hi. I'm about to win a million dollars. Cause he knew the answer. He was just calling his dad. It was great.

• 20:39Fortune Feimster?

  And he really didn't know it?

• 20:40Mae Martin?

  Yeah, he knew it.

• 20:41Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, that's cute. I like that.

• 20:42Tig Notaro?

  Oh, and he won?

• 20:43Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 20:44Tig Notaro?

  Oh, wow.

• 20:45Fortune Feimster?

  He just wanted to make a moment and he did. Look at you talking about it all these years later.

• 20:50Mae Martin?

  Decades later.

• 20:50Tig Notaro?

  That's so great.

• 20:52Mae Martin?

  Yeah. I would really enjoy being the host of something like that. And just the smugness of just having none of the stress. You just get to be like, are you sure about that?

• 21:01Fortune Feimster?

  And you, and you, and you're acting like you would have known it.

• 21:04Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 21:04Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 21:05Mae Martin?

  That would be really juicy.

• 21:06Tig Notaro?

  It's also confusing to be on a show like that. Cause it's like, my instinct is I just wanted to hang out and talk to Pete and Jimmy. You know what I mean? And it's like, yeah, I wanted to do bits. And it's like, Pete Holmes is so good at doing like, a really fast, crazy bit, you know what I mean? And it's like, I, I'm, I don't, I can't even think as fast as that guy.

• 21:31Fortune Feimster?

  You need a minute.

• 21:31Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 21:33Fortune Feimster?

  I didn't realize when you said Pete, that y'all were a team. Now I get it.

• 21:37Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. I didn't get it either until, like, I didn't know it was happening. Uh, of course, but, um, I just am so curious how they edit it because I truly was like, I don't have the slightest clue.

• 21:50Fortune Feimster?

  Well, nothing will ever compare to your Celebrity with a Fortune.

• 21:54Mae Martin?

  Or when, when, when we were all on.

• 21:56Fortune Feimster?

  The Exorcist bike.

• 21:59Tig Notaro?

  Yes. Crashing my Exorcist bike.

• 22:03Fortune Feimster?

  That will be a legendary answer for the rest of time. Crashing my Exorcist bike.

• 22:14Mae Martin?

  What was the show that we were all, that we were on?

• 22:17Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, we were on After Midnight, After Midnight.

• 22:20Mae Martin?

  After Midnight.

• 22:20Tig Notaro?

  Did we do well on that?

• 22:22Mae Martin?

  No, but we got a taste.

• 22:23Fortune Feimster?

  Adorable. And they honestly tried to get us back like three more times, but.

• 22:27Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. Every other week.

• 22:28Fortune Feimster?

  We all have an insane schedules.

• 22:31Mae Martin?

  Yeah, but you were.

• 22:32Fortune Feimster?

  We're good to record this pod. We can't do that.

• 22:36Tig Notaro?

  But I do enjoy that, that TV shows and movies like to have us all come on at the same time.

• 22:43Mae Martin?

  As a group. Hey, I'm, I'm riding that.

• 22:47Tig Notaro?

  I'm, I'm off hiking and diking and biking, you know?

• 22:51Fortune Feimster?

  I know. We get home already. We haven't been able to be handsome together.

• 22:56Tig Notaro?

  I know.

• 22:57Mae Martin?

  I want to see you guys.

• 22:58Tig Notaro?

  It'll be fun to, um, to do an in-person for sure. I don't know when that'll happen, but, uh.

• 23:05Mae Martin?

  I have some gifts for you guys that have been showing up for me, for you, from other people.

• 23:11Tig Notaro?

  Oh.

• 23:12Mae Martin?

  So we, I can bring those again. I know that was a, that was fun.

• 23:15Fortune Feimster?

  I'm just letting people know right now to not do that for me, um, at my shows. I don't want to have to deliver presents to everybody.

• 23:25Mae Martin?

  Oh, right.

• 23:28Tig Notaro?

  The handsome Santa Claus.

• 23:30Fortune Feimster?

  I'm just gonna say it right now. Please don't make me give, take presents home in my tiny suitcase to give my handsome co-hosts.

• 23:40Mae Martin?

  My luggage got lost going to Italy and then my luggage just got lost again, coming back from Just for Laughs. I, I've never lost luggage in my life. And both times lost all my luggage.

• 23:51Fortune Feimster?

  Did they get it back for you in Italy?

• 23:54Mae Martin?

  Uh, yeah, it took a few days, but it was high drama. Cause also some of the kids' suitcases were lost that they'd packed with their little stuffies and games. It was really.

• 24:03Tig Notaro?

  That's so cute and sad.

• 24:05Mae Martin?

  Yeah. I have to show you guys, we made a zombie movie while I was away, uh, that the kids, I casually was like, you guys, I'm writing a zombie show. You guys should play zombies. And then they privately all went off. And I think they thought that I meant like, let's film a Netflix show on this vacation that you guys write. That's a zombie movie, but they'd never seen a zombie movie. And they wrote it and we filmed it really professionally. Like we made a shot list. I was doing, they were taking it so seriously. And I was doing like cameras up, sound speed rolling. And they were like, I've never seen, they were never better behaved. They were so focused and professional.

• 24:41Tig Notaro?

  What are the ages?

• 24:43Mae Martin?

  Eight, eight and 11.

• 24:45Fortune Feimster?

  And then now they're like, when is this premiere on Netflix?

• 24:48Mae Martin?

  Yeah. They're like, when, and they're like, are there bloopers? I'm like.

• 24:52Fortune Feimster?

  What will our star meter be?

• 24:54Mae Martin?

  Yeah, exactly. Yeah. There's a musical number in it that came out of nowhere. That's.

• 24:59Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, I love a zombie musical number.

• 25:01Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Alma like brought me into a room. It was like, I wrote this song and it was from the perspective of a zombie. And it was like, every day you wake up in the morning, hoping life will be a little more spooky. It was great.

• 25:17Tig Notaro?

  Oh, that's catchy. And so wait, you're currently writing a TV show?

• 25:22Mae Martin?

  I'm, I'm developing a show for Netflix. Yeah. I probably shouldn't have said that, but it's like a zombie, um, dramedy.

• 25:28Tig Notaro?

  Oh, that's cool. Here we go. Right back to number one.

• 25:33Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 25:35Mae Martin?

  Oh, yeah. We'll see. We'll see if it gets me.

• 25:39Fortune Feimster?

  That's exciting, you guys. I'm good. I'm doing good.

• 25:44Mae Martin?

  Tell us. So girl, you've been promoting your show like crazy. You've been in the South a lot.

• 25:51Tig Notaro?

  Are you still on a press tour right now?

• 25:53Fortune Feimster?

  Um, no, the press tour ended. I was in New York doing all the, you know, morning shows and things like that. Um, wearing some suits.

• 26:02Tig Notaro?

  Nice. Looking handsome.

• 26:03Fortune Feimster?

  Looking handsome. Uh, then I went to hang with Ginge for the week. She started chemo. So, uh, we did that. And, um, I'm going to go see her again in a week and a half. I'm going to drive her to Emory in Atlanta. Um, and, um, yeah, we're just.

• 26:23Mae Martin?

  Is that where she gets treatment in Atlanta?

• 26:25Fortune Feimster?

  She gets treatment.

• 26:26Mae Martin?

  There's a specialist there.

• 26:27Fortune Feimster?

  Our local area, but there's a specialist at Emory. So every like six months she checks in with him to make sure like, what her local team is doing is what he would do.

• 26:39Mae Martin?

  Great.

• 26:40Fortune Feimster?

  Second, third opinions, those kinds of things.

• 26:43Tig Notaro?

  Good to have.

• 26:44Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 26:45Tig Notaro?

  Real good.

• 26:46Fortune Feimster?

  She's being, she's, you know, being positive and yeah, being real fun. I'm trying to get her to come out to LA. She was going to come actually this week, but the chemo, she couldn't do it. The doctor wants to see how she does with that. But I'm going to try to get her, uh, to LA, maybe later in August or early September.

• 27:08Tig Notaro?

  For how long of a stay? And could she do it in?

• 27:10Fortune Feimster?

  Four, five days.

• 27:11Tig Notaro?

  In-person recording with us?

• 27:13Mae Martin?

  That's what I was just going to say. Like we don't, we don't really do that, but I would love to have Ginger. Just, oh, I have so much show and ask her.

• 27:20Fortune Feimster?

  If you guys are in town, we can figure it out. I, she's, she's just waiting to hear from her doctor when she can come. So as soon as I know, I'll let y'all know. But that would be, that would be a trip.

• 27:30Tig Notaro?

  It'd be funny if she was like on the far end of the couch and we were just shooting and then randomly turned.

• 27:36Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Just revealed her.

• 27:37Tig Notaro?

  And yeah, revealed her and then went back to the three of us.

• 27:42Fortune Feimster?

  I thought it was, you were going to say that it cut her off. So you told us all the three of us and you just hear her voice.

• 27:51Mae Martin?

  Chomping at everyone's mouth.

• 27:52Tig Notaro?

  I think any option would be funny.

• 28:00Fortune Feimster?

  Well, we'll try to make that happen.

• 28:02Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. And she, you said beginning of August? Cause I don't get back till mid-

• 28:06Fortune Feimster?

  No, it would be either later in August or early September.

• 28:12Tig Notaro?

  Oh, okay. Yeah. Let's try and do that. Be fun.

• 28:16Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. All right. We'll do it. I'll, I'll see if she can fit it in her schedule.

• 28:21Tig Notaro?

  Mm hmm.

• 28:22Fortune Feimster?

  She, she chomps, she's chomping at the bit to do anything on camera. So.

• 28:27Mae Martin?

  Is she really?

• 28:28Fortune Feimster?

  I love that. She loves it. She's a not shy lady.

• 28:33Mae Martin?

  That's amazing.

• 28:34Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 28:34Mae Martin?

  Yeah. My dad's the same. He's like, get me in there.

• 28:37Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 28:38Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Love it.

• 28:40Fortune Feimster?

  I mean, I guess that's where we get it from, huh?

• 28:42Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Seriously.

• 28:44Fortune Feimster?

  Well, should we get to our question?

• 28:47Mae Martin?

  Yeah, let's do it.

• 28:47Tig Notaro?

  I think we should.

• 28:48Fortune Feimster?

  It's a, a treat to have today's question asker, um, cause I'm, have a very small part in a movie that he's currently in. Our asker is an actor and podcast host who starred as Nick in New Girl for seven seasons. He co-hosts the podcast, We're Here to Help with his friend Gareth Reynolds. Um, and he currently has, uh, the number one movie on Apple, um, called The Dink. It's a pickleball movie, um, that he stars in. And I have a little part in it where I grunt a lot.

• 29:23Mae Martin?

  You're good for you. Like every time you're like, yeah. Can you give us a taste of the grunt?

• 29:32Tig Notaro?

  Oh, that's good. No wonder you got that.

• 29:34Fortune Feimster?

  But like a lot of it.

• 29:36Mae Martin?

  Holy.

• 29:37Fortune Feimster?

  And it's pretty fun because I play doubles partners with some, a guy and you don't know if we're lovers or siblings.

• 29:46Mae Martin?

  That's good.

• 29:47Tig Notaro?

  Oh, I know.

• 29:50Fortune Feimster?

  Anyway, today's question asker is Jake Johnson.

• 29:55Speaker 05

  Hello, handsome podcast. I got a question. Um, so, uh, Dan Aykroyd used to say about John Belushi. He said, when they met, there was like this invisible glue that connected them through everything. He said, I don't know what that was, but as soon as I met him, there was like some glue that connected us. Probably adding some words there. But what do you think that is? What do you think that is? That a thing that connects certain people that you meet somebody and you know, oh, that person's going to be in my life. And you meet somebody else who equally special, interesting person, but you just don't connect to it all. And they fade away and somebody else gives you a 10 year run of friendship.

• 30:34Speaker 05

  You guys think that, that we've done this world before? Do you think that everything happens for a reason? Or what do you think it is? What do you think that is? That glue that connects certain people and?

• 30:43Tig Notaro?

  Hmm.

• 30:44Speaker 05

  Doesn't others? Okay.

• 30:47Fortune Feimster?

  Okay. Look at us.

• 30:50Mae Martin?

  I really like this.

• 30:51Fortune Feimster?

  Deep, y'all. You, you like this, mate? Is that what you said?

• 30:55Mae Martin?

  Yeah, I feel like there are so many possibilities. It could just be like subconscious kind of pattern recognition. Like you've had a similar i- i- influence on you in your life. And so you're, you're birds of a feather. But I like, I, I'm into past life stuff or like soul groups, you know, like a bunch of-

• 31:16Fortune Feimster?

  Wait, what's a soul group?

• 31:17Mae Martin?

  I don't really know, but there's one idea that like people are incarnated.

• 31:22Fortune Feimster?

  Soul group?

• 31:23Mae Martin?

  I'm into soul groups.

• 31:24Fortune Feimster?

  What is that?

• 31:25Mae Martin?

  I don't know.

• 31:26Tig Notaro?

  I don't know, but you know you're in when you're in.

• 31:29Mae Martin?

  You know, when you're in a soul group or just that like there are, there are types of, of people, you know?

• 31:37Fortune Feimster?

  I've definitely met people before where I feel like I, I, the, the comfortability is there right away.

• 31:44Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 31:44Fortune Feimster?

  And you're, and it's like inexplicable. And so sometimes I am like, yeah, maybe, maybe I do believe in past lives. Cause it feels like we know each other.

• 31:56Mae Martin?

  I know. And it could be someone from a totally different part of the world. And yeah, like I, I've really felt that too. Or, or some people that you even just know for a short time, but they're deeply ingrained in your heart and your soul.

• 32:09Fortune Feimster?

  An impactful person at the time, at a certain time in your life.

• 32:13Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 32:13Fortune Feimster?

  Mm hmm.

• 32:14Mae Martin?

  I mean, things that always connect me to people are like trauma, like share, like shared trauma.

• 32:21Fortune Feimster?

  Trauma bonding.

• 32:22Mae Martin?

  Trauma bonding, like, uh, Beatles fans, Elliott Smith fans, like any, any sort of fandom where there's a commonality and you can, and it kind of says something about, maybe not Beatles, that's too broad, broad, but when it's like a niche thing that you're like-

• 32:36Tig Notaro?

  Beatles is like-

• 32:40Tig Notaro?

  You know, it's like, if you like Elvis Presley.

• 32:42Mae Martin?

  Yeah, you're in my soul group. Sorry.

• 32:47Tig Notaro?

  Elvis Presley. I mean, I know, that's weird.

• 32:50Mae Martin?

  Your brain went, what's the most famous person?

• 32:54Mae Martin?

  Still Elvis. But both of you, I mean, we like, we didn't know each other at all, but I feel like we felt like we'd get along. And we were like, yeah.

• 33:02Fortune Feimster?

  You know? Well, the chem, the chemistry with all of us was there like right away.

• 33:07Mae Martin?

  Is that just gay?

• 33:08Fortune Feimster?

  Nothing to base it on.

• 33:10Mae Martin?

  I know. The gay is not enough.

• 33:15Fortune Feimster?

  Is this us dyking and, and gay together and queering?

• 33:20Mae Martin?

  But that can't be true, cause I meet lots of queer people that I do not connect with at all. So.

• 33:25Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. I think for myself with both of you, which I've said many times is like, anytime I had a moment where I sat down and talked with either of you, I thought, oh, I might want to follow up with that again, or you know, maybe, maybe I should get lunch or coffee or something with that person. And yeah.

• 33:48Mae Martin?

  Instead you went, you went for the podcast.

• 33:50Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. It's like, you know what? It'll, it's, it's a forced.

• 33:54Fortune Feimster?

  Chat and have everyone in on it.

• 33:57Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. I was thinking the other day that it might be fun to not even get a question one time. Maybe we could do this for another, like year anniversary, if we make it to another April. Um, but,

• 34:10Tig Notaro?

  but it, it might be interesting to just sit down, uh, which we've done in, in ways. But the other day, for some reason it crossed my mind that it might be interesting to talk about our dynamics and what maybe people are drawn to about our dynamics or, um, you know, um, I don't know.

• 34:31Mae Martin?

  And have questions for each other, like, like after so long now, yeah. Do we, cause maybe we've, have we ever asked questions on the pod? I mean, not formally, right?

• 34:41Fortune Feimster?

  Just follow questions.

• 34:43Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 34:44Tig Notaro?

  But I just think it's interesting how people always comment on our dynamic and how it works and how they're drawn to the different personalities and age groups and places in our lives that we are. And, um, and yeah, it's, it's just, it's endlessly fascinating to me what, what, um, like my sister-in-law listens to this show and that always confuses me. I'm like,

• 35:14Tig Notaro?

  why do you listen to, I mean, she, she loves both of you. So it's not like she's just listening for me. But it's, I'm like, you do? And like my friend Megan, I'm like, I've known her since I was five. Why do you listen? Again, she loves both of you.

• 35:31Mae Martin?

  Entertaining.

• 35:32Tig Notaro?

  I know, but I'm like-

• 35:33Mae Martin?

  Cool. What if we send, we pick an episode and we somehow send it to like Astaire Parel or someone to analyze us and our, to listen and go, interesting.

• 35:45Fortune Feimster?

  We'd have to send her a sex podcast, right?

• 35:49Mae Martin?

  No, she could just do general relish, I think.

• 35:51Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, she knows relationship. And she also analyzes work dynamics, you know, she's, it's just, it's relationship.

• 35:58Fortune Feimster?

  We want to get to the nitty gritty with this stare.

• 36:05Tig Notaro?

  She used to be my celebrity crush.

• 36:07Fortune Feimster?

  Can improve our sex life with each other.

• 36:11Mae Martin?

  There's a lot.

• 36:11Tig Notaro?

  We'd have to get started.

• 36:13Mae Martin?

  There's a lot of work to be done there. I have not come in years from you guys.

• 36:17Tig Notaro?

  Oh my God. What would happen if the three of us tried to hook up?

• 36:25Mae Martin?

  I don't, I don't know.

• 36:26Fortune Feimster?

  Laugh too much. We could never.

• 36:28Tig Notaro?

  And then we throw Thomas in the mix as well. It's the four of us just giving it our best shot.

• 36:35Fortune Feimster?

  Get undressed in front of y'all.

• 36:37Mae Martin?

  Giving it our best shot.

• 36:38Tig Notaro?

  Lights out.

• 36:40Mae Martin?

  Like, what if someone said-

• 36:41Fortune Feimster?

  Turn the lights out.

• 36:43Mae Martin?

  What if someone said like, it's life or death. You have to, and you have to commit and you have to be earnest.

• 36:48Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I'd give it a whirl. I mean, even if I laughed through the whole thing and I was like, okay, I'll touch that.

• 36:55Mae Martin?

  Oh my God.

• 36:56Fortune Feimster?

  We will poke there, we'll poke here.

• 36:59Mae Martin?

  Then we do a podcast processing.

• 37:02Tig Notaro?

  And then we do a quad snuggle.

• 37:04Fortune Feimster?

  Stare.

• 37:06Tig Notaro?

  We do a quad spooning.

• 37:08Mae Martin?

  We'd just be trying to get to that snuggle after, I think.

• 37:11Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. All we really care about is the snuggle.

• 37:14Tig Notaro?

  And the cigarette.

• 37:16Fortune Feimster?

  Hey. Was that good for you?

• 37:19Mae Martin?

  God, I love it.

• 37:22Tig Notaro?

  So what do you-

• 37:22Mae Martin?

  I'm really trying to quit.

• 37:24Fortune Feimster?

  So back to the question.

• 37:25Mae Martin?

  Back to the question.

• 37:28Fortune Feimster?

  I do think that it, you're also, it helps when you have some like common ground with somebody. Like you have a similar way of looking at the world or your sense of humor is similar or your interests align. I mean, that, that can sometimes be the glue is like when I met Will, when, um, I met him doing a, a movie, like a couple of years ago. And I really liked him and he liked me, but you know, there wasn't much time to connect, but other than like, oh, I, I like you. And then when we did the hawk, um, the chemistry was just like there, like right away.

• 38:08Fortune Feimster?

  And I think it was, um, because we looked at comedy very similar, but we're also very similar humans in how we approach life. And we're both cancers. I don't know if that has any astrology.

• 38:24Mae Martin?

  I want to believe in astrology. I mean, everyone I've, everyone I've ever been in love with mostly has been born within the same like six week period.

• 38:32Fortune Feimster?

  No.

• 38:33Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 38:34Fortune Feimster?

  Really?

• 38:34Mae Martin?

  Is that a thing? Mid-August sort of to like November?

• 38:39Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, interesting.

• 38:40Tig Notaro?

  Mid-August to November?

• 38:42Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 38:42Tig Notaro?

  That's a chunk of time.

• 38:43Mae Martin?

  I know.

• 38:44Fortune Feimster?

  That's definitely more than six weeks.

• 38:46Mae Martin?

  But there's a lot of people within a really small window.

• 38:52Fortune Feimster?

  It's like three months.

• 38:53Mae Martin?

  Yeah, you're right. It's like 10 weeks.

• 38:59Mae Martin?

  Six weeks is wild. Three months is a little bit like, okay.

• 39:02Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, you're right.

• 39:03Mae Martin?

  That can happen.

• 39:04Tig Notaro?

  You're like, the last half of every year, I usually, that's where I fall for somebody and that.

• 39:12Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I, I don't, I, it's so hard to, for me, I'm just so deeply drawn to somebody who makes me laugh, or somebody that I really make laugh, or it together we do, whether it's a friendship or romantically, I don't, I don't need somebody that I'm with to be the funny one. But if we can really have a deep, deep belly laugh, I'm like, I'm all in. It's, it's really what keeps me alive and, and keeps my friendships going, my relationships going.

• 39:56Tig Notaro?

  And, and it's, it's wild. It's like, and I know I've mentioned it before, the connection I had with Stephen Colbert. I've done so much, so many talk shows. The first time I sat down in his, in the seat at his desk, I was like, oh, oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This feels really good. And I had that with, with this guy that I used to be close with and collaborate creatively with. We both had that kind of like, hey.

• 40:33Mae Martin?

  Comedic dynamic, a comfortable, like, yeah.

• 40:37Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, it was, it was like, it's almost romantic, like the love, the deep, deep. And maybe what you're saying with Will, it's like, man, I could just riff and talk and build on everything that we're doing, even if it's silent, like it just feels so good and right.

• 41:00Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. Yeah. Like I always knew where he was going with something. He always knew where I was going with something. It was like very simpatico.

• 41:08Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, there's, there's nothing like that. It's just, I mean, I just love it. I love it so much.

• 41:15Mae Martin?

  People that are authentically themselves too, like, yeah, definitely whenever I'm at like a, like a party or like an industry event or something, and there's someone there who doesn't want to talk about that, like who wants to talk about weird stuff or like talk about, you know, something bizarre. I'm so grateful. It's like finding an oasis in the desert. It's like, oh yeah, someone who can just like, yeah, see the absurdity, be authentically themselves.

• 41:44Tig Notaro?

  So that, would you say that's your number one thing, May, is like having what, what you?

• 41:52Mae Martin?

  Auth, like people who are, who are really themselves, maybe, and really, hmm. It's hard to put your finger on it, isn't it?

• 42:01Tig Notaro?

  Mm hmm. It's so hard.

• 42:03Mae Martin?

  What you're describing, that like comedy dynamic, like there's people who I fall into an immediate like, yeah, low status, high status, like fun game. But I don't know that that's, that's different to like some of my oldest friends. But I like people who, I have my, my friend Matt, who lives in my back house, will go to like a dinner party and we're having a great time. We're laughing, we're talking to everybody and then we leave and get in the Uber to come home or whatever. And the, and we're both like, time to be weird. And we're like, the relief of just unmasking and just being our total weird selves and.

• 42:38Fortune Feimster?

  I do have a couple of like really good friends that we just share a very dark sense of humor together.

• 42:45Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 42:45Fortune Feimster?

  Yes. And you can only do that with like certain friends that like.

• 42:49Mae Martin?

  That is cathartic. Yeah.

• 42:51Fortune Feimster?

  I've like, those couple of friends, you just like have never laughed harder.

• 42:56Tig Notaro?

  Oh, my God, it's the best.

• 42:57Fortune Feimster?

  Those people.

• 42:59Tig Notaro?

  It is the best when you, you know, you can push something a little further with a certain group.

• 43:05Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 43:06Tig Notaro?

  You're like, oh, boy, that's just between us.

• 43:09Mae Martin?

  Yeah, where you're like, if people read this text thread, I would be fucked. Yeah. Or like my, my writing partner, Joe, who wrote Feel Good With Me, and we're writing this new show. If we're in like a work Zoom with producers and Netflix, like he'll text me something so obscene sometime. And I have to be like, like hiding my face off the Zoom and it's sort of a game, trying to make each other laugh.

• 43:32Tig Notaro?

  And yeah.

• 43:33Mae Martin?

  It's a danger, you're playing with fire. It's a dangerous game, but.

• 43:36Tig Notaro?

  I found this weird connection in, in our baseball parent group. And I found this, this dad in our baseball parent group that I would never have guessed that he would be so funny. And we are, he knows as much about baseball as I do, which is zero.

• 44:01Mae Martin?

  Nothing.

• 44:02Tig Notaro?

  And yeah, and we are the ongoing jokes of our team because everybody's like, you know, well, maybe we'll just, maybe Tig and Matt should, you know, take it from here. Let's see what they have to say about it. And, and it's just, it's, it's just become this surprising connection where, oh my God, this random dad has become my friend and we make each other laugh really hard. And so I think that is what it always goes back to for me is like, I love, I love that connection. I love it so deeply. And it's funny because like Jake, actually specifically Stephanie worked on a project with him

• 44:46Tig Notaro?

  and she would come home being like, that guy's awesome. And like they talk.

• 44:50Fortune Feimster?

  Really great.

• 44:51Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. She was like, he's just like, he's so interesting and curious and in it and passionate and like wants to talk about stuff. And, and they both connected on baseball and sports. And, and so it's funny that he's asking this when my wife just worked with him and really connected with him on baseball and stuff like that. Meanwhile, I'm off texting with my buddy Matt about not knowing anything.

• 45:20Mae Martin?

  No, not, no knowledge of baseball. So many people are not fake, but they're just performing adulthood in, in this very like paint by numbers way. Like that, like so many people that you encounter in your day. And it's like, I used to notice in England, the way everyone would be like, hi, yeah, you're right. And it was like, can you say it a different way? Or like, I don't know. It was just like, like these rote phrases. And so when you find someone who's just a little bit, well, I don't know, present and being weird, it's the best.

• 45:49Fortune Feimster?

  That's the best.

• 45:50Tig Notaro?

  Dig's a little deeper.

• 45:51Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 45:52Fortune Feimster?

  And it's on the magic. Yeah.

• 45:54Tig Notaro?

  Doing the saying or the, whatever it is that's popular and that everybody responds with and everyone's doing. And then somebody takes a curve ball or turn and you're like, hey, aren't you though? That's interesting.

• 46:11Mae Martin?

  And especially in like customer service and stuff, because that's their job. Like people are, and so you, you know, they're doing their thing. But when you meet someone who just says something a little odd or is funny with you, it's so nice. You're like, oh, we're alive. We're people.

• 46:24Tig Notaro?

  Right. Right. Yeah.

• 46:26Fortune Feimster?

  And it's so great as you get older in life, when you do like find one of those connections. Cause you're like, oh, okay. Like I'm not dead inside. I can still connect with people and like,

• 46:37Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 46:37Fortune Feimster?

  have like special talks and stuff like I, there was an actor on FUBAR in our second season. He was so lovely and we like would have fun on set, but then like near the end, like suddenly we just like have like the most earnest conversation with each other. And I'm like, I, I just met him. I don't know him that well. But like every time we check in now, we have like, you know, he's like, I'm here for you whenever, whatever. Call me anytime. And you're just, and he means it. And you're like, and I mean that to him too.

• 47:15Fortune Feimster?

  And it's just like so great when you like, yeah, as an older adult to be like, oh, I could still have, you know, make good friends and have meaningful conversations.

• 47:28Mae Martin?

  Yes. There's a guy called Kit in Toronto, who I was in a short film with when I was 13. And we knew each other for three days. And when I see him, it's like we're siblings being reunited. We, we don't know each other. Like all we know is that he played my brother and he had to spit in my face when I was 13. And we're like, hi, how are you? Like, still alive? It's, I don't know. It's nice. Yeah.

• 47:53Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. I still call Garrett Dillahun. We still call each other brother and sister because we played siblings on the mini project. So I don't talk to him much, but he'll be like, hey sis.

• 48:03Mae Martin?

  So nice.

• 48:05Tig Notaro?

  That's great. I'm about to see tomorrow, I'm about to see my, my friend Megan, who I said listens to our podcast. I've known her since I was five. Like I can't wait to see her. We laugh a lot. She'll hear me saying this. I can't wait to see her. And, but she also thinks Stephanie is funnier than I do. And she's like, it'll be nice to see you, but I can't wait to.

• 48:26Mae Martin?

  See Stephanie.

• 48:27Tig Notaro?

  Sit with Stephanie. And, and, but yeah, I, I feel lucky for like the old, old connections that I still have with people that we still just, we're just right on track still. And we just sit all night and we just laugh together.

• 48:44Mae Martin?

  When your old friends love your partner too, that's great.

• 48:48Tig Notaro?

  Oh, my God. I feel so lucky. I just watched a text thread go around with Stephanie and Max and Finn's godparents, who their godmother is one of my oldest and closest friends. And I'm, you know, I'm not even chiming in on that.

• 49:06Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's my best friend Andrea, she texts me yesterday. She's like, I just got off the phone with your mom. We talked for an hour and 20 minutes and laughed the whole time. And I was like, that's so sweet.

• 49:19Tig Notaro?

  That's who we met in Nashville?

• 49:21Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, that's who we met in Nashville. We've been friends over 20 years. And I'm like, that's, she's just like, I'm gonna call your mom. And then they're like having this giddy, crazy laughing fit for an hour and 20 minutes. And like, it's so nice when you have that kind of.

• 49:37Tig Notaro?

  It's comforting.

• 49:38Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that's really great. Yeah. Well, should we hear what Jake has to say?

• 49:43Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I think we should. That's why we brought him into this circus.

• 49:49Speaker 05

  I think the glue is, is because we've been here before and we've done this. And I don't exactly know what that means. I don't know if it's all just one thing and it's all a memory or if we, there's a lesson or.

• 50:05Speaker 05

  I don't have any answer and or even pitch at that madness. Um, but I do feel like there are certain things that feel too uh connected. When I met my wife for the first time, she was a bartender. And when I saw her, it just felt like, oh, there's my partner. And and now 20 years later, I'm like, oh, it makes sense. I saw her then the way I see her now. But how could I have seen her then that way?

• 50:33Mae Martin?

  Mm hmm.

• 50:33Speaker 05

  So might just be not, but I believe the glue is with certain people because we've done this. And when you re see them here, you think like, oh, yeah, that's that's that person in my life.

• 50:47Mae Martin?

  Mm hmm. I agree with that.

• 50:49Fortune Feimster?

  So romantic.

• 50:50Mae Martin?

  Oh, my God.

• 50:50Fortune Feimster?

  I know. I love that.

• 50:51Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 50:54Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 50:55Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, cuz it's like a complete stranger and you're just like, how how do we have like so much to talk about out of nowhere?

• 51:03Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 51:03Tig Notaro?

  It is wild.

• 51:05Mae Martin?

  It is wild. Yeah.

• 51:07Tig Notaro?

  It's wild.

• 51:08Mae Martin?

  I bet if you zoom, if I don't know, cuz we only see such a small spectrum of light and stuff like we don't know anything that's going on. I bet if you could see everything going on, there's like, like a system of like magnets and wheels and cogs. And we're all kind of it like, you know what I mean? I bet there's a some sort of sense to it. Like you're in a groove on a vinyl record player, you know? Oh, there goes the leaf blower. I wonder if I knew the leaf blower in a past life, I should go out and check.

• 51:38Tig Notaro?

  I didn't hear. Oh, oh, there. I thought you heard it, but.

• 51:41Fortune Feimster?

  It's always usually a random person that walks by, you know?

• 51:44Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 51:45Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 51:47Fortune Feimster?

  Um, well, cool. Well, that was fun to dig into something like that.

• 51:51Tig Notaro?

  Uh huh. Yes, indeed.

• 51:53Fortune Feimster?

  God, I'm glad our our paths brought us together.

• 51:57Tig Notaro?

  And I you. And it's also interesting, like with, you know, Jake even just like, oh, that's so interesting that that's how he sees the world. Like that, that's a fun insight on somebody.

• 52:12Fortune Feimster?

  Totally.

• 52:12Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what I felt in that moment of like, interesting. Okay. Um, but cool. Yeah. Always a pleasure, my friends. Always a pleasure. Also, I want to say something really fast. Um, without getting into detail, I I did have to uh cancel some, move some shows. I had to reschedule some shows. Um, had some, had a bit of a family emergency come up and um, everything is fine. Um, and I just, you know, I I just wanted to say that because it was right up to the last minute.

• 52:52Tig Notaro?

  And I just so apologize to the people that went out of their way to travel or bought tickets. And and I was also, because I'm not on social media, um, I I didn't post an explanation. Um, but um, but yeah, I just, I just wanted to apologize cuz I know it's so inconvenient for people. Cuz things like our production schedules or family members' health or anything like that, you know? It does pop up and and so my deep, deep sincere apologies. And I I'm sure I'm a few weeks late on this um, explanation for what happened. So I just wanted to acknowledge that.

• 53:37Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, it happens.

• 53:38Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 53:38Tig Notaro?

  It does happen. It does happen. And it's a, you know, when you're doing live shows and life happens.

• 53:45Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 53:46Tig Notaro?

  It's it's a, it's tough.

• 53:48Fortune Feimster?

  It sucks. I've had to do it too. You never want to do it, but sometimes it's inevitable, like unavoidable.

• 53:55Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So uh, it never happens unless we absolutely have to do it. And sometimes it's so last minute and it never feels good on our end. But it's only because it absolutely had to happen. So um, go to my website to um, see rescheduled dates. I think they might be up now. Yeah, I just wanted, I just wanted to say that.

• 54:22Fortune Feimster?

  Mm hmm. Yeah. Well, I'm back on tour. Uh, I had a nice little seven week break from the road, which is.

• 54:31Mae Martin?

  Oh, that's nice.

• 54:32Fortune Feimster?

  Lovely to re re up my energy. Um, and August 28th, I'll be in Greenville, South Carolina, then Wilmington, North Carolina, Boise, Portland, Oregon, Austin, Chattanooga, Dayton, Louisville, Madison, Durham, Oakland, Bakersfield, Santa Barbara, LA, Denver, and Nashville. That's the rest of my tour and then I'll be filming my special.

• 54:53Mae Martin?

  I don't have any live shows coming up at the at the moment, but I will in LA. So check out uh Instagram always I I post them or uh maymartin.net, I I believe. But uh mainly I'm I'm working on on music and on this new TV show. So you can always check out any of the old stuff and I tape my special and that's coming out soon.

• 55:14Tig Notaro?

  Awesome.

• 55:15Mae Martin?

  This year, I hoped. Yeah.

• 55:17Tig Notaro?

  Well, I uh, I have uh more dates if you want to take a chance on me. Um, I'll be uh in Rochester, New York, Calgary, Iowa City, Des Moines, Omaha, Oklahoma City, Cincinnati, Charleston, West Virginia, Chattanooga, Knoxville, Chico, Olympia, Washington, Fresno, Napa, Colorado Springs, Steamboat Springs, and Basalt, Colorado. I'm also always a Largo and Dynasty typewriter in um, Los Angeles. Also, make sure to rate and review the podcast. My sister in law did.

• 55:59Tig Notaro?

  She told me that she said that I hung on that moment for a minute, say, on one of our episodes, saying, I know I always say this and you probably don't do it, but please rate and review right now. Stop what you're doing. And she goes, and it really got through to me. And I thought, I love this podcast, so I'm gonna rate and review it.

• 56:19Fortune Feimster?

  There you go.

• 56:20Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, so do like my sister in law and rate and review the podcast if you want to keep us uh chugging along through April. And also, um, we are out on Hulu a day before and um, share one of your favorite episodes. And I say that all the time, but you know what? Do it. Think, what is my favorite episode? What is it? Which one made me laugh so hard? Send it along to somebody that you love and help us build this very handsome community. And um, until next time, what do you say we uh?

• 56:55Mae Martin?

  Keep it handsome. Handsome is hosted by me, Mae Martin, Tig Notaro, and Fortune Feimster. The show is produced, recorded, and edited by Thomas Willett. Email us at [email protected] and please follow us on social media at HandsomePod.

• 57:13Fortune Feimster?

  What a podcast.

• 57:15Mae Martin?

  What a podcast.

• 57:19Speaker 00

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• 57:22Tig Notaro?

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