Kerri Kenney-Silver asks about embarrassing fan encounters

Kerri Kenney-Silver (The Four Seasons, Reno 911) asks about mortifying fan encounters on today's ha-ha-Handsome! Plus celebrity lookalikes, Mae's dance moves, and an unforgettable photo session with a Second Lady! Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.com http://handsomepod.com/Watch Handsome on YouTube http://youtube.com/@handsomepod and Hulu https://www.hulu.com/series/b583d0bc-eeb0-4560-8b2b-5c8ae0248a19?play=false&utm_source=shared_linkThis is a Headgum https://headgum.com/ podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter https://x.com/headgum, Instagram https://www.instagram.com/headgum/, and Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum. Advertise on Handsome https://gumball.fm/shows/handsome via Gumball.fm http://gumball.fm/. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  This is a HeadGum Podcast.

• 0:19Fortune Feimster?

  Welcome to the Handsome Pod. I'm Fortune.

• 0:22Mae Martin?

  I'm May.

• 0:23Tig Notaro?

  I'm Tig.

• 0:25Mae Martin?

  We said just first names. Is that the first time we've done that?

• 0:28Fortune Feimster?

  Why not? Let's change it up. Really keep people on their toes.

• 0:32Tig Notaro?

  It's me, no Taro.

• 0:34Fortune Feimster?

  They can look up our last names. Do we have to tell them?

• 0:37Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 0:38Fortune Feimster?

  Must we? It's so good to see you guys. It's been so long.

• 0:42Tig Notaro?

  It has been so long, and yet you're still in that room.

• 0:47Fortune Feimster?

  I will find a room with a recliner and good luck getting me out of it.

• 0:53Tig Notaro?

  Do you have a recliner at your house?

• 0:55Fortune Feimster?

  Um, no, but when I travel, I'm always on the hump for, uh,

• 1:02Fortune Feimster?

  why can't I think of the recliner? My brain just went totally down. My mom has two recliners in her place, side by side.

• 1:11Tig Notaro?

  Nice. Does she have the drink holders in there?

• 1:15Fortune Feimster?

  No drink holders, but, um, they share, have a little table in between. So when I go visit.

• 1:22Tig Notaro?

  Those big couches that are like L-shaped and they each have a drink holder?

• 1:26Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 1:26Tig Notaro?

  And they all recline? Each seat reclines?

• 1:30Mae Martin?

  I wish, uh, was it in the seventies or the sixties that people had like a, a

• 1:34Tig Notaro?

  I'll take this question.

• 1:36Mae Martin?

  Yeah, Tig, uh, a recessed, like, living room that was like a sunken.

• 1:41Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 1:41Mae Martin?

  Yeah. And then, and it was like a conversation pit, like, and really yeah, just designed for like gatherings. Yeah.

• 1:50Fortune Feimster?

  I love a conversation pit.

• 1:52Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Put me in a pit and let me chat.

• 1:55Tig Notaro?

  That's what this show is. It's a conversation pit.

• 1:58Mae Martin?

  Yeah. I just, um, I saw my, my friend Matt, who lives with me, he said, wouldn't it be funny if, when you go into

• 2:05Tig Notaro?

  The guy on fire in the backyard?

• 2:07Mae Martin?

  Yeah, the guy on fire with the tree.

• 2:16Mae Martin?

  Sorry. He said, he said, wouldn't it be funny if, if he just dressed up as me and logged into the, to the Zoom and just tried to do the podcast as me and really committed, really committed. He's got these big bushy eyebrows. He's bald.

• 2:28Fortune Feimster?

  I would love this.

• 2:30Mae Martin?

  His tattoos all over him.

• 2:33Tig Notaro?

  We should do that. That would be such a fun episode where you have somebody fill in for another one, for one of the hosts and you don't even, and the, the person that fills in pretends to be and does their best impression of the host and just claims to be them.

• 2:50Mae Martin?

  And we don't acknowledge, and none of us acknowledge it.

• 2:52Tig Notaro?

  Never acknowledge it. No.

• 2:54Fortune Feimster?

  See if Charlize Theron is available. Oh.

• 2:57Tig Notaro?

  Is it Theron?

• 2:59Fortune Feimster?

  Theron, whatever.

• 3:01Mae Martin?

  No.

• 3:01Fortune Feimster?

  Well, Fortune.

• 3:03Tig Notaro?

  I need to know.

• 3:04Fortune Feimster?

  I don't know. Everybody says it differently. I think it's Theron, actually.

• 3:09Mae Martin?

  No, I think it's South Africa. It's like Theron.

• 3:13Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, that's a whole other ballgame.

• 3:14Tig Notaro?

  How do you know this?

• 3:16Mae Martin?

  I swear I've seen an interview with her where she's like, actually it's Theron.

• 3:20Fortune Feimster?

  But I think she's accepted, but I think she has accepted that everyone says Theron.

• 3:25Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 3:26Tig Notaro?

  Well, because May saying that's how you say it.

• 3:29Mae Martin?

  Yeah, it's not Theron.

• 3:31Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 3:31Mae Martin?

  It's

• 3:32Speaker 04

  Google says Theron, but.

• 3:34Fortune Feimster?

  Oh dear. I don't know, but honestly, May, I do believe that that probably is accurate, that there's some other pronunciation of it that no one gets right.

• 3:45Mae Martin?

  Tig, who would you have filling in for you? Please, can it be Finn?

• 3:49Fortune Feimster?

  Tom Cruise?

• 3:51Tig Notaro?

  Well, we, you know, we don't put pictures or videos of our children online.

• 3:56Mae Martin?

  It would be a big, a big like pivot.

• 3:59Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, it'd be a massive pivot. Um, I would probably go with Adam Scott.

• 4:05Mae Martin?

  Oh.

• 4:06Tig Notaro?

  Because we have had an ongoing, I don't know if I've told you this, but people have made like collages of our faces together.

• 4:14Fortune Feimster?

  Really?

• 4:15Tig Notaro?

  And he and I have had, yes. And he and I have had this, um, plan for 15, 20 years to, and we've never done it, to, if we are both promoting something at the same time, go on talk shows as each other.

• 4:34Mae Martin?

  I love that.

• 4:36Tig Notaro?

  And answer to the best of our ability.

• 4:39Mae Martin?

  I really like that.

• 4:40Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. So, um, I, it's, it's so bizarre that people think I look like him and that people think I look like Tom Cruise, because he and Tom Cruise don't look alike, right?

• 4:52Mae Martin?

  Well, I think you're all, if, if, if we live in a simulation, you guys are like on the same sort of thread of, of type of, type of face.

• 5:03Tig Notaro?

  Okay.

• 5:04Fortune Feimster?

  I feel like

• 5:05Tig Notaro?

  What thread of, what face thread are you two on?

• 5:08Mae Martin?

  I like to think I'm, um, or I get told I'm, the guy who played Eric Foreman on that 70's show, what's his name?

• 5:18Tig Notaro?

  There's some actor.

• 5:19Fortune Feimster?

  Topher Grace?

• 5:20Mae Martin?

  Topher Grace, I get. I also

• 5:22Tig Notaro?

  There's some guy too, that Stephanie's always like, there's May.

• 5:26Mae Martin?

  I want to say Joshua Jackson, because

• 5:29Tig Notaro?

  Yes.

• 5:29Mae Martin?

  No way.

• 5:30Tig Notaro?

  Yes. Yes.

• 5:31Fortune Feimster?

  Really? I don't see that.

• 5:33Mae Martin?

  He looks like my dad a lot. And yeah, I want to, I want to play his sibling.

• 5:38Fortune Feimster?

  A little bit. How about me?

• 5:41Mae Martin?

  Hold on.

• 5:42Tig Notaro?

  Shirley Temple.

• 5:43Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Oh, Owen Wilson.

• 5:47Tig Notaro?

  Oh, Owen Wilson meets Shirley Temple.

• 5:51Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 5:51Tig Notaro?

  I see it.

• 5:52Fortune Feimster?

  Look at the smolder.

• 5:54Tig Notaro?

  You actually look like a very pretty little lady right now.

• 5:57Fortune Feimster?

  You really do. The light, y'all, and blue's my color.

• 6:01Tig Notaro?

  And it's the recliner you're sitting in.

• 6:04Fortune Feimster?

  And the recliner brings out the life in me.

• 6:08Mae Martin?

  The headphones are kind of like a hairband.

• 6:11Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, a hairband on.

• 6:13Tig Notaro?

  Oh, that's what it is, girl.

• 6:15Fortune Feimster?

  Y'all should start wearing hairbands, like Parvati in, uh, what was it, Traders?

• 6:20Mae Martin?

  She wore like tiaras almost. Yeah, like they, I remember people used to wear just a thick hairband all the time. I did miss that. Yeah.

• 6:28Tig Notaro?

  Does Parvati have any reality shows or competitions coming up?

• 6:32Mae Martin?

  No, nothing coming up at the moment.

• 6:34Tig Notaro?

  Okay.

• 6:35Fortune Feimster?

  That girl better start competing for money somewhere.

• 6:38Mae Martin?

  She better start.

• 6:39Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 6:39Tig Notaro?

  She had better.

• 6:41Fortune Feimster?

  She better win those competitions.

• 6:44Mae Martin?

  I really want to create my own. I, I do think that's in my future is, is an unscripted competition show that I want to

• 6:51Fortune Feimster?

  For sure.

• 6:51Mae Martin?

  Produce. Yeah.

• 6:53Fortune Feimster?

  A thousand percent. You could create something really cool.

• 6:57Mae Martin?

  Well, I'm so bossy and when my friends come over, I make them compete. So it's very

• 7:01Tig Notaro?

  You're bossy? I don't see you as bossy. I feel like if you got bossy, I'd just say no.

• 7:06Mae Martin?

  That's why I don't get bossy with you.

• 7:09Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, I think May is not bossy with you, because it's hard to boss you.

• 7:13Mae Martin?

  You're impossible.

• 7:15Tig Notaro?

  Oh, that's not true. There are many people that boss me.

• 7:18Mae Martin?

  Really?

• 7:19Tig Notaro?

  Oh, yeah. And then there's many people that overstep with, um, uh, weird situations.

• 7:27Mae Martin?

  Right.

• 7:28Fortune Feimster?

  I think you say, you're not the boss of me?

• 7:32Tig Notaro?

  No, I cower and run away. And then about a month later, I say, you can't treat me like that.

• 7:39Mae Martin?

  They're like, what are you referring to?

• 7:41Fortune Feimster?

  I've been thinking about it for a month and you can't treat me like that.

• 7:45Tig Notaro?

  I've finally built up my confidence to say, what you did and said is so hurtful.

• 7:53Fortune Feimster?

  Oh.

• 7:53Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 7:54Mae Martin?

  I, I'm the most like unmasked in my, in my bossiness when I'm hosting, when I'm at my house, because I'm, it's like a combination of like show and tell where I'm like, come, look at this cool gadget I have. And I, but I'm, I sort of make everybody, like, I don't let things flow naturally. I'm kind of like, now we're, we'll sit here and I'll show you this thing and then we'll all play this game and then we'll

• 8:14Tig Notaro?

  It's a good thing I've never been available to go to any of your things, because I would just ruin everything. I would just say no.

• 8:24Tig Notaro?

  No, I'm not doing that. No.

• 8:27Mae Martin?

  But that's a crucial element that I also enjoy, like that, that sort of completes the picture. If there's one person there who's kind of nagging me or not participating, then I, I

• 8:37Fortune Feimster?

  You're gonna try to one take over.

• 8:38Mae Martin?

  Find great joy in that too. Yeah.

• 8:39Tig Notaro?

  Well, yeah. And, and you don't have a personality where I, I feel like I'm gonna hurt your feelings. Like, I think that you, you get it and you roll with my silly, but true, no.

• 8:52Mae Martin?

  If anything, yeah.

• 8:55Fortune Feimster?

  And also I mean it.

• 8:57Tig Notaro?

  Also, get off of me.

• 8:59Mae Martin?

  I feel very, I feel safe with people who they say what they feel and mean. And then I know if they're doing something, it's because they want to do it and not because they're

• 9:07Tig Notaro?

  Isn't it the best?

• 9:08Mae Martin?

  It's the best. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I, I wish, I was more like that.

• 9:13Tig Notaro?

  I have a friend who has very strict boundaries. She's in recovery, AA, all of that kind of stuff. And I know this doesn't work for everybody. And it's not like a dreamy scenario, but I'm always like, good, love it. Because she'll just be like, I need everybody to go home now. I'm finished.

• 9:37Mae Martin?

  I like that.

• 9:38Tig Notaro?

  You know? And, and, and I'm just like

• 9:41Fortune Feimster?

  Everyone get out of my house.

• 9:43Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. And it's, and, but it's also like, she has a regular gathering and then, um, and you kind of know it's coming.

• 9:51Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 9:52Tig Notaro?

  You know, because you know, when she's hit her, the wall and, you know, the, the, the socializing is done. And then she's like, everyone out. And, and I'm just like, great. I love, I love a clear boundary.

• 10:08Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 10:08Tig Notaro?

  You know?

• 10:09Mae Martin?

  Cause then, because everybody is probably thinking, oh, it's time to wrap it up. And then you don't have to all individually be like, oh, it's my time to get, you just have the host be like, this is, it's over now. I like that.

• 10:18Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. I don't know. That stuff doesn't bother me at all.

• 10:22Mae Martin?

  Same. I was casually dating someone for a while where she has a phrase ripcord where it's like, if, if we're hanging out, if, if you're ever like, you know what, I actually don't want you to sleep over tonight. I want to be alone in my bed. Or like, let's, you know, or this hangout's done, you just say ripcord. And it's like, you're just pulling the cord on the hang. It's like, okay, great. Fun hang. See you later.

• 10:44Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 10:44Mae Martin?

  And just knowing the options there makes it so relaxing.

• 10:48Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 10:50Mae Martin?

  Although it would suck if you said that like

• 10:53Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 10:54Mae Martin?

  Fortune logs on.

• 10:55Tig Notaro?

  Fortune, no. You're a crucial part.

• 11:03Mae Martin?

  Is that what that, what is a rip cord? Is it like an emergency parachute?

• 11:08Fortune Feimster?

  I think of a rip cord on a surfboard. And what that, but that can't be right.

• 11:14Tig Notaro?

  Are you thinking of rip curl?

• 11:16Fortune Feimster?

  Rip curl. What is that?

• 11:18Tig Notaro?

  I think that's a company rip curl.

• 11:20Fortune Feimster?

  What is that ankle thing? That's called a rip curl?

• 11:23Tig Notaro?

  No, I think rip curl is a company of a surfboard.

• 11:26Fortune Feimster?

  No, on a surfboard, there's the thing that goes around your ankle.

• 11:30Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I think it's called an ankle thingy.

• 11:32Mae Martin?

  Oh, we're gonna have to Google it, aren't we? Rip cord is.

• 11:37Tig Notaro?

  What the hell?

• 11:38Mae Martin?

  Rip cord. It's commonly a manual release cord or cable used to deploy a parachute in skydiving.

• 11:44Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, yeah.

• 11:45Tig Notaro?

  Or to put around your ankle when you're on a boogie board.

• 11:50Mae Martin?

  No, would you, would you parachute?

• 11:53Fortune Feimster?

  I'm Googling it now.

• 11:54Tig Notaro?

  I would never parachute.

• 11:56Fortune Feimster?

  Me neither. God, no.

• 11:59Mae Martin?

  No way. Not, not a tandem thing, not a solo thing.

• 12:02Fortune Feimster?

  Surfboard leash.

• 12:06Fortune Feimster?

  Not anywhere in the vein.

• 12:08Tig Notaro?

  That's what I'm saying is rip curl is a company.

• 12:11Fortune Feimster?

  You're right. It is.

• 12:12Tig Notaro?

  I know I'm right.

• 12:14Fortune Feimster?

  And no, I would never parachute in a million trillion years.

• 12:19Tig Notaro?

  Unless it's the three of us holding hands going.

• 12:22Fortune Feimster?

  I'm still not doing it.

• 12:25Tig Notaro?

  Thomas, put it on the list.

• 12:27Mae Martin?

  Can we put?

• 12:28Tig Notaro?

  And also push us out of the plane.

• 12:31Mae Martin?

  Oh, my God. Or, or indoor skydiving. How about that? You know where it's in a big tube and they blast the air? The three of us holding hands and doing that would be so good.

• 12:40Tig Notaro?

  That's what May wants and that's what May will get.

• 12:43Mae Martin?

  Did I ever tell you about that? When I did, I did that, um, I did indoor skydiving and at the end you got a photo of yourself, like that they send you. Did I tell you this? And they sent me the picture?

• 12:54Tig Notaro?

  Like weird cheeks?

• 12:55Mae Martin?

  Oh, and, and I sent it to my parents and I sent it to a friend and then my friend wrote back and said, this isn't you. And I zoomed in, it was a little boy that they, and my parents didn't notice.

• 13:07Tig Notaro?

  Nor did you.

• 13:08Mae Martin?

  No, nor did I.

• 13:10Fortune Feimster?

  But you're one friend.

• 13:11Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that's, that's me. Yeah.

• 13:13Fortune Feimster?

  It's a little boy. They're like, why are you sending us this?

• 13:17Tig Notaro?

  We took Max and Finn to one of those when I had a, a show in Vegas and, um, they were probably six at the time.

• 13:26Mae Martin?

  Tiny to be flying.

• 13:28Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. And it, but it was so, they were so excited. It was so cute, but it was also like, oh, man, like if, if anything goes a little sideways, it, it, yeah.

• 13:41Mae Martin?

  It's so overwhelming. It's like, yeah.

• 13:44Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. As a parent, it was a moment of like, okay, we're gonna let him, we're gonna let him do this. And, and we were like on the side, like.

• 13:53Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. I, I don't want to do any of that stuff. And my fear was confirmed, there was, not to be too graphic, but there was a girl in Brazil who was doing one of the bungee jumping off a bridge and they didn't tie the bungee to her, to her.

• 14:09Mae Martin?

  Fuck, I heard, I read about that.

• 14:11Fortune Feimster?

  And it was on video. Like a month ago.

• 14:16Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 14:16Fortune Feimster?

  Terrified. That's like a nightmare.

• 14:19Tig Notaro?

  And she didn't live.

• 14:21Fortune Feimster?

  No. There was no, nothing, no cord. And they were filming it.

• 14:26Tig Notaro?

  I didn't know what was below her.

• 14:29Fortune Feimster?

  Not good, but I'm just like, I don't want to do any of that adventure stuff. I'm so.

• 14:34Mae Martin?

  Crazy that.

• 14:35Fortune Feimster?

  Such a fuddy duddy with that stuff.

• 14:38Tig Notaro?

  Well, plus you got your recliner. Why would we?

• 14:41Fortune Feimster?

  Why would I leave paradise?

• 14:43Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 14:44Fortune Feimster?

  You know, in the words of TLC, don't go chasing waterfalls. Stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to. It's words to live by. Truly.

• 14:56Tig Notaro?

  That is terrible advice.

• 14:57Mae Martin?

  I agree. That's terrible advice. You gotta dream big.

• 15:00Fortune Feimster?

  Don't go chasing waterfalls.

• 15:03Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, but you gotta get out of your comfort zone.

• 15:06Fortune Feimster?

  The grass is not always greener.

• 15:09Tig Notaro?

  We can't all sit home in a recliner.

• 15:12Fortune Feimster?

  I'm sticking to the rivers and the lakes that I'm used to.

• 15:16Mae Martin?

  What about in the words of Oscar Wilde, shoot for the moon and even if you miss, you land in the stars.

• 15:22Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, he is.

• 15:24Mae Martin?

  Yeah, true. Sometimes you just float away in space and die a slow death.

• 15:28Tig Notaro?

  Oh.

• 15:29Mae Martin?

  Anyways, um, what if we find a way to attach you to, would you parachute in the recliner? Like we find a way that you can stay seated in the recliner?

• 15:38Fortune Feimster?

  I don't wanna, I don't wanna parachute. I don't wanna bungee jump. I don't wanna paraglide. I don't wanna go to space. I don't wanna go in a submarine. What else?

• 15:50Mae Martin?

  And you know what? We respect your boundaries.

• 15:53Tig Notaro?

  You sound like an angry child. I don't wanna go to space.

• 15:56Fortune Feimster?

  I don't wanna paddleboard. I don't wanna water, I don't wanna water ski.

• 16:03Tig Notaro?

  You don't wanna water ski?

• 16:05Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, you heard me.

• 16:07Tig Notaro?

  Why water ski? What about snow ski?

• 16:11Fortune Feimster?

  Don't wanna do that either.

• 16:12Mae Martin?

  Really?

• 16:13Tig Notaro?

  The hell do you wanna do?

• 16:15Fortune Feimster?

  The recliner.

• 16:20Tig Notaro?

  Wow.

• 16:25Mae Martin?

  Checking Allstate first could save you hundreds on car insurance. Not checking that I get enough pizza for everyone before calling in an order? Mama mia, I did my pizza math wrong and now we're completely out of pies, but not completely full.

• 16:37Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, checking first is handsome. So check Allstate first for an auto quote. They can save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary, subject to terms, conditions, and availability. Allstate North American Insurance Company and Affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois.

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• 17:26Tig Notaro?

  Do you ski, May?

• 17:28Fortune Feimster?

  No, I don't know how to, oh.

• 17:30Tig Notaro?

  I'm skiing with May.

• 17:31Mae Martin?

  I, I skied for the first time, uh, yeah, with Parvati's and her, and Alma and her family. And I was like, this is absolute insanity. Hurdling down a hill at unprotected, at breakneck speeds. And there were, I, it was my first time ever and there was a, um, like a, what do you call? Like a intersection where you could either go down the, the bunny hill, like the easy way, a fork in the forest. Or the other way was like death, black diamond, steep. And, and I couldn't control my turning and I, I start going down the death, black diamond thing. And I didn't know what to do, so I just made myself fall, just wiped out. Oh, I found it terrifying. Well.

• 18:11Tig Notaro?

  Have you snowboarded?

• 18:12Fortune Feimster?

  Don't go chasing waterfalls. Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that I used to.

• 18:23Mae Martin?

  I feel like you slowed that down and you gave it a real grungy groove.

• 18:26Fortune Feimster?

  A little something on there.

• 18:28Tig Notaro?

  It got real dirty.

• 18:29Fortune Feimster?

  Playing when you.

• 18:30Mae Martin?

  I've, um.

• 18:31Fortune Feimster?

  Booted down that hill.

• 18:33Mae Martin?

  I've wakeboarded and water skied and knee boarded and I'm weirdly good at knee boarding. I think I got good knees.

• 18:39Tig Notaro?

  Fortune's mad about that too. What a terrible attitude. Um, Thomas, can you, um, block her?

• 18:49Fortune Feimster?

  Block her. Name another thing you love.

• 18:52Tig Notaro?

  Can you do a blackout? Wait, what's another thing who loves?

• 18:57Fortune Feimster?

  I said, name, name one, name one other outdoorsy, dangerous thing.

• 19:02Mae Martin?

  Rock climbing.

• 19:08Tig Notaro?

  Okay, I have something controversial.

• 19:10Mae Martin?

  Oh, controversial.

• 19:12Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 19:12Fortune Feimster?

  Controversial, tell us.

• 19:13Tig Notaro?

  Controversial.

• 19:14Mae Martin?

  What is it?

• 19:16Tig Notaro?

  Um, I don't like heart hands.

• 19:19Fortune Feimster?

  Oh.

• 19:20Mae Martin?

  Wow.

• 19:21Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. Why are you against Swifties?

• 19:25Tig Notaro?

  Is that Swifty?

• 19:27Fortune Feimster?

  Is it? No, it's just that generation, you know?

• 19:31Tig Notaro?

  I love Taylor Swift. I just don't like heart hands.

• 19:34Fortune Feimster?

  Really? So you think that is?

• 19:37Tig Notaro?

  I can't figure it out.

• 19:39Mae Martin?

  It just, it, it.

• 19:40Fortune Feimster?

  Cause it's not fully a heart.

• 19:42Tig Notaro?

  It, no, it's just, you know what? Maybe it's just that everyone does it now. And I'm like, Thomas, stop doing heart hands.

• 19:50Mae Martin?

  But you know, in Korea, they do this, which is a heart. And I think that's cuter.

• 19:54Tig Notaro?

  Oh, I like that.

• 19:55Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that's like.

• 19:56Tig Notaro?

  I can work with that.

• 19:57Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that's a little heart. You see people do that in photos.

• 20:00Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 20:00Mae Martin?

  And it's a little better than this, but I.

• 20:03Tig Notaro?

  So do you like heart hands?

• 20:04Mae Martin?

  I liked it one time on, on this tour when a man had a seizure in the audience. And so we ended the show and they were calling the medics and it was really scary. And so everyone was being very quiet and respectfully leaving. And so instead of like bowing and people clapping and cheering, I, I just went like this and the whole audience was sending, was doing the heart thing back. And I was like, okay. So I liked it then.

• 20:26Tig Notaro?

  But when you say you liked it once on this tour, is that implying that you also are not crazy about heart hands? Please tell us the truth.

• 20:36Mae Martin?

  I would never, it was the only time I've spun, I've done it, like it's come, I've spontaneously done it. And other than that, I don't think I would ever do it really. But Thomas just did a whole other one.

• 20:48Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 20:49Mae Martin?

  That one I really don't like.

• 20:50Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. Well, I don't like Thomas.

• 20:53Mae Martin?

  Right, right.

• 20:54Tig Notaro?

  Yes, yes.

• 20:56Fortune Feimster?

  What else do we not like?

• 20:58Tig Notaro?

  But Fortune, are you, you love heart, heart hands?

• 21:00Fortune Feimster?

  I don't mind them.

• 21:02Tig Notaro?

  But do you love them?

• 21:02Fortune Feimster?

  I don't go doing it. But I don't mind it. You know what I mean?

• 21:07Tig Notaro?

  Okay. And May, have you only gone doing it once?

• 21:10Mae Martin?

  Yeah, I've only gone doing it once.

• 21:11Tig Notaro?

  I have not done it except on here.

• 21:14Mae Martin?

  But if someone does it to me, I'll do it back.

• 21:17Fortune Feimster?

  I find that my heart's not great. That other people seem to do it better. This feels like when I try to do it, it feels awkward.

• 21:26Mae Martin?

  Right.

• 21:27Tig Notaro?

  I think when there's like a surge of everybody doing something, I immediately go, I don't like that.

• 21:33Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 21:33Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, like, um, like when people would, the flash mobs, you didn't like that?

• 21:40Mae Martin?

  Let's, why have we not talked about flash mobs on this podcast?

• 21:43Tig Notaro?

  Girl, let's get into it.

• 21:45Mae Martin?

  Girl, get into it. They are crazy.

• 21:49Fortune Feimster?

  Are they done?

• 21:50Mae Martin?

  I, I haven't seen one in a while, but those proposal videos that went around for a while where it was like,

• 21:55Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, that, that was, those were big hits.

• 21:57Mae Martin?

  And looking for something fun to do.

• 22:00Tig Notaro?

  I have to confess, I enjoyed that when I first saw that.

• 22:02Mae Martin?

  Oh, did you?

• 22:04Tig Notaro?

  I did. I was like, well, this is fun. What the hell am I watching?

• 22:08Fortune Feimster?

  You're like, I wish I'd come up with that.

• 22:11Mae Martin?

  I like the idea. I like sort of this, this surprise of like the break from the norm of like, oh my God, everyone's, but I would hate to be proposed to that way. Cause the pressure.

• 22:22Tig Notaro?

  One million percent don't want to be proposed to like that. But that was, I think, maybe the one and only thing like that that I ever saw. And I was like, this is, I just loved how this was fully orchestrated. And, but I'm not like, I love a mob situation. I don't, I think it was, um, flash mob, whatever it's called. I think it was maybe This American Life, when it was a TV show. They had this, I think it was on this, where they had a bunch of people

• 23:00Tig Notaro?

  learn a completely unknown bands, all of their music. And then went and saw them live. And then when the band came on, everybody was dancing and singing all of the songs.

• 23:13Mae Martin?

  That was, I don't know what that was from either, but I remember that too. I like things like that. That's cool. Like a, just for the sake of it. Like a big absurd prank.

• 23:22Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. And the band was just, they were like playing going, the hell was happening? And it was sold out with people knowing all of the words. I think it was This American Life. Was that, was that that time? I feel like that's something you would know, but that kind of thing is, I just love, it's such a funny little moment. Wait, was This American Life?

• 23:43Speaker 04

  Yeah. The episode is called Mind Games.

• 23:46Tig Notaro?

  And what was the band called?

• 23:48Mae Martin?

  It was about psychological torture.

• 23:51Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 23:52Speaker 04

  Uh, the band was called Ghosts of Pasha. Playing their first ever tour in New York.

• 23:59Mae Martin?

  Oh, that's so good.

• 24:00Tig Notaro?

  Sold out. Everyone knows their music. That's so good.

• 24:05Mae Martin?

  A thing in, at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, there was a group that would do that every night, pick, they would pick a, a tiny show that was like struggling for numbers in some pub and they would all like sell it out.

• 24:15Tig Notaro?

  Awesome.

• 24:16Mae Martin?

  Yeah, I like that.

• 24:18Tig Notaro?

  That's awesome. You don't like the music thing, Fortune?

• 24:21Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, I don't mind any of it. Um, if people want to dance in a group and learn, oh, whatevs. Yeah. I was never in a flash mob. We're, we're gonna go in a flash mob?

• 24:32Mae Martin?

  No, but put it on the list, you know? I'll do it.

• 24:35Fortune Feimster?

  I can't even, I even have a hard, I will occasionally try to learn one of those TikTok dances.

• 24:39Tig Notaro?

  What? Can you film yourself doing that, please?

• 24:42Mae Martin?

  And send it to us?

• 24:44Fortune Feimster?

  I did film myself doing one back when Meghan Trainor had this popular song and I poked myself in the eye.

• 24:52Fortune Feimster?

  Whilst trying to do this dance. I just don't understand how people learn these dances so quickly.

• 24:59Mae Martin?

  I know.

• 25:00Tig Notaro?

  More talented?

• 25:02Fortune Feimster?

  Probably, yeah.

• 25:03Tig Notaro?

  I don't know.

• 25:04Mae Martin?

  The three of us are not, well, Fortune, you're a, I, actually, okay, I don't know. I'm speaking out of turn. I was gonna say the three of us are not natural dancers, but actually Fortune.

• 25:13Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, I do have rhythm.

• 25:14Mae Martin?

  You have rhythm. Tig, I've just never seen you throw down.

• 25:17Tig Notaro?

  And it did. Oh my gosh. I'm like the master of fingers.

• 25:22Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, you are.

• 25:25Mae Martin?

  That's really good.

• 25:27Fortune Feimster?

  That was your nickname in high school.

• 25:29Tig Notaro?

  That's right.

• 25:30Fortune Feimster?

  Ew.

• 25:31Tig Notaro?

  Well, if it isn't the master. Stephanie told me she posted a video of me dancing recently.

• 25:37Mae Martin?

  Wait, yeah, on Instagram. You were grooving.

• 25:40Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah. It's on Stephanie's, Stephanie's Instagram.

• 25:45Fortune Feimster?

  It's how people know you're okay.

• 25:47Mae Martin?

  I, I was hanging out with, um, like old, old school friend, like best friends. And then we're talking about dancing and or we were like, we should go out tonight. And then one of them said, are you gonna do your dip? And I was like, what's my dip? And, and everyone's like, oh yeah, your, your dip, you do your dip. And I, I don't know that I do that, but I guess if I'm drunk and dancing, I, I dip. Like my, but it's weird how people know things about you.

• 26:11Tig Notaro?

  Can we see a little bit of that?

• 26:12Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, what does that mean? I, I was assuming you dipped another person.

• 26:16Mae Martin?

  No, no, it's, I, and it must be unconscious when I do it. Cause I actually don't know what it is. I guess it's something like,

• 26:23Tig Notaro?

  Oh, yeah.

• 26:23Mae Martin?

  I'm trying to imagine if I was spontaneously dancing. I don't know how to dance. And then what am I, what am I dipping? I don't know.

• 26:31Tig Notaro?

  Oh, dipby, dipby doo.

• 26:33Mae Martin?

  Maybe, maybe my hips go low.

• 26:36Tig Notaro?

  Do we have it on the list that all three of us go out dancing together?

• 26:39Mae Martin?

  I think it's to go, to go to the club. Like we have to go to a nightclub.

• 26:44Tig Notaro?

  We have to go to a lesbian or a gay bar.

• 26:47Mae Martin?

  Yes.

• 26:48Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, I think they're opening, I think that they are opening a lesbian bar back up in LA.

• 26:53Mae Martin?

  Oh, yeah?

• 26:54Fortune Feimster?

  I think so.

• 26:55Tig Notaro?

  Is there not one now?

• 26:57Fortune Feimster?

  There is not.

• 26:58Mae Martin?

  Oh, Thomas says that what we do have on the list, I have no memory of this being on the list.

• 27:03Fortune Feimster?

  Dance from Chicago.

• 27:05Mae Martin?

  Come on, boys.

• 27:07Fortune Feimster?

  I do want to learn that dance. And all that, that, that, um, they have this and that dance.

• 27:13Tig Notaro?

  Jazz hands?

• 27:16Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, but like out this way.

• 27:18Tig Notaro?

  Oh, prepare to host the Oscars tap lesson.

• 27:21Fortune Feimster?

  And they do shoulder things.

• 27:23Tig Notaro?

  Shoulder shimmies?

• 27:24Fortune Feimster?

  Mateo Lane has been in Chicago on Broadway. How awesome is that?

• 27:30Mae Martin?

  Well, lest we forget that Tig was almost.

• 27:33Tig Notaro?

  Almost starring in it on Broadway with Pamela Anderson.

• 27:38Fortune Feimster?

  That's the role that he's playing. What's that character? Billy or whatever?

• 27:43Tig Notaro?

  Wow, yeah. It was Billy. I'm doing a show with Mateo in Calgary. But that's, that wasn't what I was gonna say. I was gonna say, I've never met Pamela Anderson, but I would love to, so I could tell her that I was almost Billy.

• 28:01Fortune Feimster?

  Pamela Anderson and I have a lot in common.

• 28:04Tig Notaro?

  What is that?

• 28:06Fortune Feimster?

  We both have the same birthday and we have huge knockers.

• 28:12Mae Martin?

  Your international sex symbols.

• 28:14Tig Notaro?

  Happy boob day to you.

• 28:17Fortune Feimster?

  On Canada Day.

• 28:19Tig Notaro?

  And on my ex's birthday.

• 28:21Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. And we both have Tigglebiddies.

• 28:26Tig Notaro?

  That is indeed correct. Now, should we get to our question?

• 28:31Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, let's Tig.

• 28:32Tig Notaro?

  Let's do it. Let's do it.

• 28:33Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, y'all. Well, I'm very excited about today's question asker because she is hilarious.

• 28:42Tig Notaro?

  Yes, she is.

• 28:43Fortune Feimster?

  She's so funny. Uh, she's an Emmy nominated actor and comedian who played Trudy on Reno 911. Truly one of the greatest, uh, comedy television series ever. Um, and she's currently in on The Four Seasons on Netflix with Tina Fey and a very talented cast. Uh, she's also a member of the renowned comedy sketch group, The State. Carrie Kenny Silver is asking today's question.

• 29:11Tig Notaro?

  Nice.

• 29:13Speaker 06

  Hi, handsome pod. Hi, beautiful friends. It's Carrie Kenny Silver.

• 29:18Tig Notaro?

  Hi.

• 29:20Speaker 06

  Bye.

• 29:24Speaker 06

  Hi, you guys. I have a burning question for you. Have any of you ever had a particularly

• 29:35Speaker 06

  embarrassing or uncomfortable or ideally mortifying experience with an audience member or a fan? Um, either during a live show or out in the wild?

• 29:49Tig Notaro?

  Hmm.

• 29:51Fortune Feimster?

  Hmm.

• 29:52Mae Martin?

  Ah, great.

• 29:53Fortune Feimster?

  Did y'all ever watch, did y'all watch Reno 911 where y'all?

• 29:57Mae Martin?

  I never did.

• 29:59Tig Notaro?

  Hmm, I have seen it. Um, I had a, uh, at one time, close friend that was on that show. And, uh, so I was very familiar with, um,

• 30:14Mae Martin?

  The cast.

• 30:15Tig Notaro?

  Certain elements. Oh, and also Nick Swartson was on that show. Right.

• 30:19Fortune Feimster?

  God, that show is so ridiculous.

• 30:21Mae Martin?

  Funny.

• 30:22Tig Notaro?

  Oh my gosh. And oh, you know what I did see also was, um, Natasha Leggero, she played a pantless person in that.

• 30:31Fortune Feimster?

  Pantless?

• 30:32Tig Notaro?

  Pantless.

• 30:33Fortune Feimster?

  What does that even mean?

• 30:34Tig Notaro?

  She, they just would blur her out and she was just without pants.

• 30:38Fortune Feimster?

  That's funny.

• 30:39Tig Notaro?

  I think she's done that on a couple of shows. She's so ridiculous. Natasha is so funny.

• 30:45Fortune Feimster?

  Recurring characters that had some shtick that would continue that throughout.

• 30:50Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 30:51Fortune Feimster?

  But man, that show was too good.

• 30:53Mae Martin?

  Question from Natasha, by the way, sidebar.

• 30:55Tig Notaro?

  Yes, yes. Natasha is so deeply funny. But, and Carrie, I mean, she's like really silly.

• 31:05Mae Martin?

  She's got funny bones.

• 31:06Tig Notaro?

  Yes, she does. Yes, she does.

• 31:09Fortune Feimster?

  Very funny bones. I did a guest star with her on Awkwafina's show. And we had such a lovely time. She's fantastic. And one of her best friends is Pink.

• 31:21Tig Notaro?

  No way. It's also wonderful.

• 31:24Fortune Feimster?

  Mm-hmm. I've never met Pink, but.

• 31:26Mae Martin?

  How did they, how did they become best friends? That's crazy.

• 31:29Fortune Feimster?

  I believe they live, uh, lived near each other for a long time.

• 31:33Tig Notaro?

  Wow. Alicia.

• 31:36Fortune Feimster?

  Mm-hmm.

• 31:36Mae Martin?

  Oh, is that, yeah, that's Pink's real name. Tig, the things that you know and don't know are baffling.

• 31:42Fortune Feimster?

  Why do you know that?

• 31:43Mae Martin?

  How do you know that Pink's name is Alicia?

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• 32:21Tig Notaro?

  I have socialized. I've socialized with Pink.

• 32:27Mae Martin?

  Of course you have.

• 32:28Tig Notaro?

  A few times. I, you know, I can't claim she's my closest friend, but I really dig her. You know what? She was there for my original... She's who I had. I had Pink at, when I did my original Adele performance, where I got up in front of like, hundreds of people and played piano and sang to the best of my ability. I, I actually, I went up to Pink, because she had just been on stage at this party. People were rotating on stage, performing.

• 33:08Tig Notaro?

  And when she, I said to her, I was like, hey, I go, I want to get up on stage next. Will you go tell the DJ to play Adele's "Hello"? And then I'm just, and she was like, yeah. She was so excited because she didn't know I sang. And she was about to find out I don't. But anyway, and I have, Stephanie used her phone to record that first Adele performance that I did. And in the video, you see Pink doubled over laughing.

• 33:37Mae Martin?

  Oh, that's so...

• 33:39Tig Notaro?

  But again, she's not any, not, not a close friend, just somebody that I have socialized with.

• 33:46Mae Martin?

  And did she say, I'm Alicia? Like, did her friends call her Alicia or Pink?

• 33:50Tig Notaro?

  I think it's a mix. Yeah, I think her good friends call her Alicia.

• 33:55Mae Martin?

  Alicia, yeah, yeah.

• 33:55Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. She just hosted the Tony Awards and she did that Chicago dance.

• 34:01Tig Notaro?

  Oh, really?

• 34:02Fortune Feimster?

  And sang. She actually did a phenomenal job.

• 34:04Tig Notaro?

  She's so good. Well, she's, she's so good.

• 34:08Fortune Feimster?

  She's a lesbian icon who's not a lesbian.

• 34:11Tig Notaro?

  I know, but man, is that hard to believe.

• 34:16Fortune Feimster?

  We lost her. She's a straight.

• 34:19Tig Notaro?

  We will wait this out as long as it takes.

• 34:25Fortune Feimster?

  We'll smoke her out of her hole.

• 34:30Tig Notaro?

  We'll smoke her into a hole. Now, listen.

• 34:33Fortune Feimster?

  Take Marie.

• 34:35Tig Notaro?

  Hey, I didn't say that. Now, um...

• 34:40Mae Martin?

  Most awkward, or, or she, she said preferably mortifying.

• 34:44Tig Notaro?

  Well, I'll tell you one. I was in Minneapolis and I was, I was either performing that day, the next day, or I had performed the night before. I was having the worst day. I was like emotionally in it, in a situation in my life. Somebody came up and talked to me and I was like, hey, I, I'm, I think maybe asked for a picture. I was like, I was really not in a good place. And I was like, I'm sorry, I'm just, and she did not take that well.

• 35:21Mae Martin?

  Really?

• 35:22Tig Notaro?

  Oh, did not take that well.

• 35:25Mae Martin?

  Oh, my.

• 35:25Tig Notaro?

  And I could, I know, I was just like, I mean, I, it's been years, but I remember thinking like, I feel like I am allowed to tell this person, this is not good, good timing, you know? It was one of those just gotten off the phone with somebody, really bad place. And, and her response to me was brutal. And I just wanted to like, lose my mind and, and explain what I was going through, you know?

• 35:57Mae Martin?

  What, what did she say? Was she just like, how?

• 36:00Tig Notaro?

  It was so long ago, I can't remember. I just remember the feeling of like, whoa, she feels very entitled to a photo with me and she doesn't. It felt like if she knew what I was going through, then she maybe would have backed off, but clearly not. Because I just, I, it was just a generic blanket response of like, I'm sorry, I'm having a very bad day or...

• 36:24Mae Martin?

  That should be enough.

• 36:26Tig Notaro?

  It was not.

• 36:27Mae Martin?

  And it was not enough. She's like, let's see the receipts.

• 36:30Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. But I, I would say for the most part, people are, are cool. And, you know, I'm always a fan of somebody that's real chill and walks by and like, hey, yeah, dig what you do. And it's like, oh, awesome. But this was rough.

• 36:47Mae Martin?

  My, my probably most awkward thing was a date that, and maybe I've said this, but it was a date from an app. And we'd been chatting and this girl had been like, what, yeah, what do you do for a living? And this was, this is in my late twenties in England. And she was really funny and cool. And then we met up and then we had so much in common. We were like, like crazy amounts in common. And then it was getting more specific. And then she was like, yeah, my favorite movie is Hocus Pocus. I was like, me too. And then after about an hour, maybe 90 minutes, she was like, I've seen all your stuff. And I, so she, she knew what to say. And that's fine, but she had actively lied. Like, she'd been like, what do you do for work? Like, what, oh, cool, you do comedy?

• 37:33Mae Martin?

  And then it was like, really strange to think that she, yeah, had actively lied and that she, she knew all that, all that stuff. That was weird. And then it felt like on the date, she, she was, she kept being like, let's get a pic in the, on the date with this, you know, in this funny pub. And I was like, oh, you're, you're, you want the pic really more than... Yeah, so that one was weird. And then the other one is that I for sure told is when I was out, did a show, then all the comics are backstage chatting. And then it was like, let's, and a bunch of people's friends. And it was like, let's all go to this dance night in a pub a few blocks away. And so we're all walking and this, this, there's this girl in the group who everyone assumes knows someone.

• 38:18Mae Martin?

  And then we get to the bar and then she, she's getting drunker and drunker. And then slowly I'm saying, she's friends with, with Steen, right? And he's like, I don't know who that is. And, and then she's really drunk. And then on the dance floor, she pulls out a bunch of flowers from her sleeve, like a magician, like fake flowers and gets down on one knee and proposes to me. And then, and then I'm saying, I think we, I think we've just realized you were just at the show, right? She's like, yeah, I just was at the show and then I just came backstage. And I was like, okay, it just feels a little weird. And then, and then I go, how, how old are you? 17. And she's been drinking at the bar. She's been with us in a group.

• 39:01Tig Notaro?

  Oh, no.

• 39:02Mae Martin?

  And so I said, we gotta get you home. You gotta go home. And so, but she was like, I don't know. I, I live really far away and, and I was going to get a hotel tonight. Now everything's closed. I was like, oh, my God. So I said, okay, if you give me your address, I'll book you an Uber. We'll get you in the Uber. And then I put her in the Uber and I told the driver, like, can you call me? You know, if there's a problem, this is my number and like, just get her home. And then I kind of forgot about it. And then my phone rang like two hours later. This is like a 250-pound Uber ride.

• 39:36Fortune Feimster?

  Whoa, a two-hour drive home?

• 39:38Mae Martin?

  To Brighton. She was, we were in London. She drove to...

• 39:40Tig Notaro?

  Oh, 250-pound, like money?

• 39:43Mae Martin?

  Money, yeah.

• 39:44Tig Notaro?

  Oh, okay. I was like, I'm not tracking this. What is the weight?

• 39:49Mae Martin?

  Crazy if I was like...

• 39:50Tig Notaro?

  And by the way, side note, this is the height and weight of this person.

• 39:54Mae Martin?

  Yeah, so then the Uber driver calls me and he's like, I don't know what to do. She won't get out of my car. I'm outside her house. She won't go into her house. And I'm like, okay, put me on the phone with her. And so I'm like, hi, are you at, is this your house? She's like, yeah, yeah. I was like, you gotta go in. She's like, fine, oh, okay, fine. Like, and then eventually goes in and I thought, God, she's going to wake up and feel really embarrassed and I'll never hear from her again. She comes to my next show. She's laughing about it. She's going, that was crazy. I said, are you going to pay me back for that Uber? That was wild. What was your plan that night?

• 40:31Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 40:32Mae Martin?

  I think her plan was to, to seduce me, but it was really strange.

• 40:37Fortune Feimster?

  Or to get a free Uber ride back home.

• 40:40Mae Martin?

  Maybe, yeah. But she had carried the fake flowers in her sleeve all night.

• 40:44Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, man.

• 40:45Tig Notaro?

  That is wild. And she's listening.

• 40:48Mae Martin?

  Maybe.

• 40:49Tig Notaro?

  She is for sure listening. Hello out there.

• 40:53Mae Martin?

  She's like, that was me.

• 40:55Tig Notaro?

  You know who's not listening to this episode? Is the woman that wanted a picture with me when I was so upset after a phone call I had just gotten off of.

• 41:04Mae Martin?

  Yeah, she became a Joe Rogan fan after that.

• 41:07Tig Notaro?

  Oh, immediately.

• 41:08Mae Martin?

  She ate her guts now.

• 41:10Tig Notaro?

  She was, she hated my guts as soon as that happened, which also tells you that she wasn't really, she really liked me. Because, you know, if somebody that I loved was having a rotten day, I'd be like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. I hope you're...

• 41:29Mae Martin?

  I know. I feel like when someone says that, like, oh, do you mind if we, if I take a photo with you? They have to be prepared that the person, yeah, you're asking, do you mind, can I? And then if the person's like, oh, I'm sorry, it's not a good moment, you know, you kind of have to...

• 41:44Tig Notaro?

  And people will oftentimes just walk up with their phone, going to put their armor around you before they even say, could I get a picture with you or your answer?

• 41:53Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 41:54Tig Notaro?

  So, I don't know. I think it's probably best to check in with boundaries and stuff like that.

• 42:03Tig Notaro?

  Are you having an okay day?

• 42:04Mae Martin?

  Any, any awkward ones?

• 42:05Fortune Feimster?

  I was trying to think of, I haven't had anything too crazy. I was at dinner once and like, it was like a circular booth. So my, it was like, I was kind of on the edge of the booth, but there was enough of a seat beside me. And, um...

• 42:22Fortune Feimster?

  And I was chatting and a woman just like came into the booth hot and went it like, "Hey!" in my face and I went, "Ah!" Like it scared me so bad because it was out of nowhere. And she just like jumped and like sat down to like be a part of my dinner. And I was like,

• 42:45Tig Notaro?

  Yes.

• 42:45Fortune Feimster?

  Uh, what, what's happening? And I'm usually, you know, I'm a very open, I friendly person, I think. And, but that was just a lot. I was like, okay, I don't, you know, I don't want to be like, get out of here. But I'm like, you can't just like sit down at dinner with me. You can't A, scare the shit out of me and then B, sit down and have dinner with me and my, I think at my date. Um, this was a long time ago. Um, but.

• 43:16Tig Notaro?

  Well, and she clearly felt that she knew you so well from your, from your work. And then that becomes that awkwardness of you've never seen this person in your life and they're so excited to see you and you're just like having dinner or having a bad day or something.

• 43:34Fortune Feimster?

  Which I had that a lot during Chelsea Lately days because I was on TV in some form, either sketch or on the round table or something like five days a week for four years.

• 43:48Mae Martin?

  And that show was massive.

• 43:49Fortune Feimster?

  A lot of people would like go to bed watching that show. So they felt this familiarity with a lot of us in a way that other people that were on TV said, that's different than what we experience. Um, it was a very like, oh, we're pals. We know each other. Um, so that there, I think I've blocked out a lot of those interactions. Uh, but there was a lot of that kind of stuff back during those days. But I had a similar thing to, uh, with a, of somebody wanting a picture. And I'm pretty open about that. I'm usually like, yeah, let's, you know, I'll, or I'll take someone's phone and just snap it. Like, I'm like, what, you know, happy

• 44:31Fortune Feimster?

  to do it. Um, as long as it's not some weird, crazy time. I've definitely walked through a couple of airports with tears in my eyes or something. And you're like, this is not the best time maybe for a picture. But, um, I was in Toronto. It was when I was filming Fubar and my co-star Monica and I were in a really deep discussion, like very, you know, close talking, like some, something was going on with production or something personal. And we were clearly in this like very deep conversation where we just were like locked in. And this girl comes up and she's like, hey, you know, can I take a picture? And, and

• 45:15Fortune Feimster?

  I, you know, I didn't want to be rude to Monica and like stop this thing. And, and I always take pictures, like always. And this was literally, I feel like I've said no maybe like three times in my entire career. And I was like, ah, is it okay if I just, not right now? Cause we're in the thick of this big thing. And in hindsight, I wish I'd just done it. Like just take the picture, be, you know, and that's, that she just started like negotiating with me like, well, what if it was just like really quick and like, and I was just like, ah, and I was like, I just, we're, we're really in the thick of this thing. And it, it kept dragging on and on. And she just didn't want to let it go.

• 46:00Fortune Feimster?

  And I was like, um, and at that point I was just like, I don't, I think I have to just stick to what I said, but I'm really regretting it. Yeah. I'm kind of holding the line, but she like won't leave. And I was just like, ah, and now it's become a really weird long thing. And then she leaves.

• 46:20Mae Martin?

  Why would she want the photo if the photo ended up being you miserable?

• 46:24Fortune Feimster?

  I know.

• 46:25Tig Notaro?

  Because it's like they got the thing that they wanted.

• 46:29Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. And I'm trying not to be rude to my co-star who's trying to talk about something very personal and.

• 46:34Tig Notaro?

  You were stuck.

• 46:36Fortune Feimster?

  And I was stuck. And then, um, and then so we get back to our thing and I feel like something kind of at the corner of my eye.

• 46:45Tig Notaro?

  No, no.

• 46:48Fortune Feimster?

  We're like on a bench kind of by the street.

• 46:50Tig Notaro?

  Absolutely not.

• 46:50Fortune Feimster?

  I looked to my right and the girl is across the street just staring, death stares at me, just standing on the side of the road, just like, and I was just like, and stood there for like 10 minutes. And I was like, I should have just taken the picture.

• 47:11Mae Martin?

  That is a pretty unhinged.

• 47:12Tig Notaro?

  I thought you were gonna say that she was just filming you. Cause I've had people do that too.

• 47:18Fortune Feimster?

  An absolute death stare. And the irony is I always take pictures. I'm like, yeah, very open to that. And the one time I just was like, can I just have this moment with my friend? And, um, and it was, it turned out to be a nightmare.

• 47:36Tig Notaro?

  Good lord.

• 47:38Fortune Feimster?

  Good lord. Yeah.

• 47:39Tig Notaro?

  I did this, I did this like, um, uh, Q and A, uh, years ago. Stephanie was with me. It was, I think we were in Denver or something. And I don't know what it was about, some Q and A. And during the Q and A, somebody asked, you know, about pictures and interactions with people. And I said, you know, mainly I really don't appreciate it if I'm eating and, um, or if I'm with my family, you know, when I'm with my family, it's just so awkward because I'm just like with my kids. And, um, and so anyway, after the panel, we went

• 48:21Tig Notaro?

  out to dinner or we went out to lunch or something. And this woman comes up to me while we're sitting there having lunch. And she said, I just saw you, uh, on the panel. She goes, I know you said you don't like it when people, you know, come up and interrupt your, uh, meals, but, um, do you mind if I get a, a picture? And I was like, what is happening? Like it was so bizarre.

• 48:46Mae Martin?

  That's crazy.

• 48:46Tig Notaro?

  Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know you said that, but like, whatever. It's just me, you know, like, can I do it?

• 48:53Mae Martin?

  I'll say that you, she, she could wait till you're done in the mid, like, yeah.

• 48:58Tig Notaro?

  And again, these are such rare incidents.

• 49:02Fortune Feimster?

  People are super nice. Oh, yeah. Very rare.

• 49:03Tig Notaro?

  Very rare.

• 49:04Fortune Feimster?

  People are so lovely and chill and kind and awesome.

• 49:08Mae Martin?

  I love chatting.

• 49:09Tig Notaro?

  And it's always, like I said, those, those nice moments where you almost think you know somebody because they're so chilled. They walk by like, hey, Tig, what's up? And I'm like, oh, hey, that kind of thing. Like I love it, you know?

• 49:21Fortune Feimster?

  But listen, I've, I've been, there've been times in my life, I've been that person too. I mean, I will never forget when I was in college.

• 49:31Mae Martin?

  Oh, God.

• 49:34Fortune Feimster?

  This is the most random celebrity sighting. Uh, Tipper Gore, who was married to Al Gore, who was the vice president at the time. Tipper Gore was at a talk in Raleigh and I, that I went to, and this was back before digital cameras. And I, I just said, I go up to her and I was like, oh, can I have a picture? She's like, sure. So we take a picture. I'm just like, oh, I don't think that probably looked very good. And so I was like, I was just like, can I have another

• 50:15Fortune Feimster?

  that didn't take it? Like it didn't, the little thing hadn't slid, so it didn't take. So I went back for a third time.

• 50:23Mae Martin?

  Oh, my God.

• 50:25Fortune Feimster?

  And she's like, okay.

• 50:29Tig Notaro?

  And were you just a diehard Tipper Gore fan?

• 50:32Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. No. Why? I was so obsessed with getting this picture. And she just was so annoyed and she had every right to be because I, I mean, honestly, it could have been four pictures. I feel like it was something crazy over the top. And I, and I still to this day, don't know why I needed four pictures with Tipper Gore.

• 50:59Tig Notaro?

  New merchandise alert. I need four pictures.

• 51:04Fortune Feimster?

  At the very end, God bless her. She's just like, okay. Even, even she had to be like confused. Like, why is this person obsessed with me?

• 51:15Tig Notaro?

  I was starstruck just a week ago at that Aspen Health Festival.

• 51:21Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 51:23Tig Notaro?

  This, I think her last name is Nurek, Dr. Jessica Nurek. Oh, my gosh. She is so smart.

• 51:31Mae Martin?

  This is like a niche, a niche hero of yours.

• 51:33Tig Notaro?

  I mean, she's just so smart. And she, I was telling her what I so appreciated when I was on social media was when she would deliver her information, when she does deliver her information. And she also speaks out a lot against like Bobby Kennedy and stuff. And she, she doesn't have that like sarcastic slant. She just corrects everything and is so direct with her information. And that's what I went, I was like, I told my friend Tony, I was like, oh, my gosh. I was like, I love this one. I have to go say hi. I have to go say hi to this doctor.

• 52:12Tig Notaro?

  But I didn't get a picture with her, but I did tell her like, man, am I thankful for the information you get out into the world. She's so smart.

• 52:23Mae Martin?

  When I was like 11, at like the height of NSYNC's fame, they were in a restaurant. And I think it wasn't even the, maybe I told, it was Chris Kirkpatrick and Lance Bass or something. And I, and I waited till the end of their meal and then got the photo taken. Oh, Thomas is not, yeah, I've told this. Yeah, yeah. I got the photo taken with the restaurant camera. They had, they had a camera at the restaurant because I didn't have a camera. And then I went to school the next day and I said to the restaurant, I'm going to come back and get this photo. And then I, at school, I told everyone I met NSYNC. Everyone thought I was lying. I was like, just you wait, guys. And then called the restaurant. They were like, we have no camera here or like, we don't know where it went. And so there's no evidence that it happened.

• 53:06Fortune Feimster?

  We don't have a house camera. It was just some random person's camera. Oh, my God.

• 53:12Mae Martin?

  Should we hear Carrie's answer?

• 53:13Tig Notaro?

  I think we should. That's what we're here for.

• 53:16Speaker 06

  Okay. So my answer is that yes, I have had a mortifying experience out in the wild with a fan. My son had just been born and I just wanted to get out of the house. And so we were just kind of walking around the mall with his stroller and had gone into Urban Outfitters to try on some clothes because nothing fit anymore. And someone pulled back the curtain and took a picture of me. And it was so jarring and confusing that I was like, this, we're going to go home. This is a weird.

• 53:46Tig Notaro?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 53:48Speaker 06

  So I was in that place while I was pushing my son to the, to the parking garage. And this woman steps right in front of me and she goes, why do I know you?

• 53:59Speaker 06

  And I was like, oh, I don't know. And I was already just flustered and ready to get home and feeling out of sorts. And I said, um, I don't know. I'm on TV.

• 54:13Speaker 06

  I have a show called Reno 911. And she was like, no.

• 54:16Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. Of course, of course.

• 54:19Speaker 06

  Wouldn't move, kept standing there. So I said, oh, I, I have done other television shows and movies. And she's like, no, I don't really watch, I don't really watch movies. I don't really watch TV.

• 54:32Tig Notaro?

  Classic.

• 54:33Speaker 06

  And I was like, um, I was in a band.

• 54:37Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, I didn't know that.

• 54:37Speaker 06

  And she's like, no, mm-mm. I don't really, you don't listen to music.

• 54:41Fortune Feimster?

  She hates music.

• 54:43Speaker 06

  So now I'm like stuck in this

• 54:47Speaker 06

  back and forth with this woman who I, I don't know. She clearly doesn't know me, but for some reason it is vital that we figure out how she knows me. So now I'm like, well, I'm in a comedy group, you know? Do you like comedy? We wrote a book. No one ever bought it. Maybe you were one of the two people who bought it. And she's like, no, I don't really read. Finally she goes,

• 55:11Speaker 06

  did you work at the TCBYN Rehoboth Delaware in 1989?

• 55:18Speaker 06

  And I was like, yeah.

• 55:20Tig Notaro?

  No way.

• 55:21Speaker 06

  She said, I was your manager. She fired me.

• 55:26Speaker 06

  It was my first job I'd ever been fired from. And she fired me because I had said that I was a like moving there, but really I was just a summer college student and they, she didn't want that. So she fired me. So we got to the bottom of it. So not only was she not a fan, she was a lady who did not like me.

• 55:44Tig Notaro?

  She was really not a fan.

• 55:48Speaker 06

  Love you guys.

• 55:49Fortune Feimster?

  Sent back into Carrie's life to put her in her place one more time.

• 55:53Tig Notaro?

  That felt like the perfect tee up of everything that always happens where somebody, even when they're like, who are you? How do I know you? And you go, oh, I, I'm an actor, comedian. They're like, no, that's it. And you know, they realize that that is it, but they're too embarrassed to say it. And they'll just keep you there. They'll just keep you there. And I thought that's where she was headed, but no.

• 56:17Mae Martin?

  It was really a nemesis from the past.

• 56:21Fortune Feimster?

  I know. Cause often you're sitting there going, having to like tell them your resume.

• 56:26Tig Notaro?

  I know. It's so embarrassing.

• 56:30Mae Martin?

  Yeah. And I had that in, in Idlewild where the woman was saying, I just watched you in something. And I said, maybe I was in a show on Netflix. No. And then what was it called? A wayward? What was it about? And then I had to tell you the plot.

• 56:44Tig Notaro?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 56:46Mae Martin?

  Yeah, it was crazy.

• 56:47Tig Notaro?

  Oh, man. That is so funny.

• 56:49Mae Martin?

  That was a great story, though.

• 56:50Tig Notaro?

  Really good.

• 56:51Mae Martin?

  That's great.

• 56:52Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, I love it.

• 56:53Mae Martin?

  I don't have much coming up, guys.

• 56:56Tig Notaro?

  You don't?

• 56:57Mae Martin?

  I don't. I'm taking, August is pretty chill for me, but check out social media and I'll, I'll post about shows I'm doing in LA. And I'm working on, on new material and check out Feel Good or Wayward on Netflix. What about you guys?

• 57:11Fortune Feimster?

  I have coming up this weekend, Provincetown, Massachusetts. I'm doing a bunch of shows there. And then Greenville, South Carolina, Wilmington, North Carolina, Boise, Portland, Oregon, Austin, Chattanooga, Tennessee, Dayton, Ohio, Louisville, Madison, Wisconsin, Durham, Oakland, Bakersfield, Los Angeles, Palm Springs, Denver, and Nashville.

• 57:36Tig Notaro?

  I'm going to be in Rochester, Calgary with Mateo Lane, Iowa City, Des Moines, Omaha, Oklahoma City, Cincinnati, Charleston, West Virginia, Chattanooga, Knoxville, Olympia, Washington, Fresno, Napa. And always check out Largo and Dynasty Typewriter for my local Los Angeles shows. And please go to handsomepod.com and get our beautiful handsome and pretty little lady and lady merch. And subscribe, review, and

• 58:12Fortune Feimster?

  Spread the word.

• 58:13Tig Notaro?

  Spread the word. Share an episode.

• 58:16Fortune Feimster?

  Word.

• 58:17Tig Notaro?

  Spread the word.

• 58:20Tig Notaro?

  Spread the Lord's word.

• 58:25Fortune Feimster?

  I'm excited to go to Provincetown because that's the area that my mom referred to as a gay enclave.

• 58:33Tig Notaro?

  I remember that. Have you not been there before?

• 58:36Fortune Feimster?

  Uh, it's been many, many years.

• 58:38Tig Notaro?

  She brought you. She brought you.

• 58:38Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. She brought me there for the first time for my gay awakening.

• 58:41Tig Notaro?

  That's awesome.

• 58:42Fortune Feimster?

  To that gay enclave.

• 58:45Tig Notaro?

  Well, you can also have a gay awakening a day early on Hulu. We're streaming on Hulu. See how I smoothly started that in there?

• 58:52Fortune Feimster?

  Beautiful.

• 58:53Mae Martin?

  Seamless.

• 58:55Tig Notaro?

  Make sure you subscribe and do all of those things, but pass along your favorite episodes and help us build this handsome community. And until next time.

• 59:06Fortune Feimster?

  Keep it handsome. Handsome is hosted by me, Fortune Feimster, Tig Notaro, and Mae Martin. The show is produced, recorded, and edited by Thomas Woolett. Email us at [email protected] and follow us on social media at handsomepod.

• 59:36Tig Notaro?

  Checking Allstate first could save you hundreds on car insurance. Not checking if the glasses I picked out have a specific vibe before buying them. Oops. Apparently they're reminiscent of a famous horror novelist's iconic look. And now I'm getting teased.

• 59:53Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Checking first is handsome. So check Allstate first for an auto quote. It could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary, subject to terms, conditions, and availability. Allstate North American Insurance Company and Affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois.