2025 Ep 288 - The shocking item found concealed in Andy’s house

1. World’s tallest hat 2. Extreme empaths 3. Andy’s dig discovery 4. Burg Boys pick their mission 5. Back to the Future In very rare scenes, Hamish has done some thorough research on the “World’s Tallest Hat” and has some ideas. The Extreme Empaths keep coming in, and Andy reveals a VERY suspicious item they found while renovating their 1876 house. Hamish has a gripe with AppleTV, and the Burg Boys have officially picked their target, it’s on!

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  Ahoy to my Minkori, Hamish.

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  Go on.

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  Ahoy to my Kafray.

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  Oh, okay.

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  Kafray.

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  Kafrays?

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  Kafray.

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  Ah, we're knee rehab exercises. Minkori and Kafray.

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  And then I am Kofu.

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  Jeez, it's always tough when you've got...

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  We criticised last week with the Friends.

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  Yeah, way too easy, way too easy.

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  Yeah, so it's gone extra hard. So Eliza's come back with a great one, I think.

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  Okay, how about witches from 10,000 years ago?

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  No, it's a great one, which is a clue, a great one.

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  Are they, ah, okay, big lakes?

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  Uh, no, Jack would be scared to eat them.

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  It's got to be something sharp.

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  The Great Pyramid.

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  Oh, pyramids.

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  The Great Pyramid.

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  They have names.

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  The Three Great Pyramids.

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  Names, how do you think they built them, mate? Sorry, biggie, big, middle or small, which one are we doing the decorations on today?

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  I looked into this, there's over a hundred there, right?

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  Pyramids, yeah.

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  Pyramids.

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  That's why they're the great ones.

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  And then they've got the great ones, which are the three biggies. Minkori, southernmost and smallest ham of the three pyramids, that's you. Kafray, the middle pyramid was built for Kafray, the fourth king of the fourth dynasty. And I've just so happened to be the largest pyramid. Kofu just fell in my lap that time round, but that's for the second king of the fourth dynasty. Ahoy also to Abby from Amsterdam, who went to hamishandandy.com, avoiding WhatsApp because obviously that can be tricky and use a very security-based programme we have. Hamishandandy.com.

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  Ahoy, Hamish, Andy and the Weasel. Abby here, calling in from Amsterdam. I'm hoping you can settle a healthy debate that quickly escalated into quite the uproar of disagreement at last week's book club. To paint you a picture, our friend and book club member Ollie has facial hair on his chin, on the space between his mouth and nose, and also sideburns, like it's all connected. I said, oh, yeah, Ollie has facial hair. He has a beard and a moustache. Everyone else absolutely lost it and said, Ollie does not have a moustache, he only has a beard. They think a moustache is when you strictly only have hair on your upper lip and no other beard hair.

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  They call everything else a beard. Please, could you settle this?

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  Oh, interesting. I think everyone's got an interesting point there, but I.

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  Because I've never said to anyone that you have a moustache.

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  Or a beard and a moustache. However, if you're getting your beard cut or trimmed, they'll say, do you want me to do the moustache?

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  Really?

• 3:08Speaker 03

  But before I even said that, I was gonna say, everyone here is just screaming two words as they're listening to this pod on the train or whatever. Abraham Lincoln, I mean, there's a man that had a beard and no moustache.

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  So they have to be separate entities, don't they?

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  Well, they're two things that obviously can join together.

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  Oh, they're a great duo.

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  They go really well together.

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  Solo projects.

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  Yeah, that's exactly right. And when they're playing together, they're so good. It's kind of like it is Simon and Garfunkel. They're playing so well that you probably give a lot of the credit to Paul Simon.

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  Yep.

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  You mustn't forget that Garfunkel, the moustache is there.

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  I think Abby's right. Well, you've proven the point. They have to be separate entities because if I said, oh, yeah, Hamish's got a beard, and someone said, does he have a moustache? Yes, he also has one of those.

• 3:56Speaker 03

  That's part, I mean, you could. It's part of the beard. When a moustache and a beard are put together, they just become a bigger beard, I suppose.

• 4:06Speaker 02

  But you can say Hamish has a beard without giving more information. You know, if I go, my friend Hamish has a beard, I'm not expecting the person to picture Abraham Lincoln because I haven't said, and a moustache.

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  Yeah, it is assumed. Do you know what it is? I've got it. It is assumed, right? This is the perfect analogy. If I said to you, he's got a car. You'd assume a roof. Yes. Okay, but convertibles don't have roofs. Okay, so you go, you wouldn't go with a roof? You'd just go.

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  He'd go, he's got a car. How have you turned up in a convertible? You go, oh, it's one of those. Yeah. That's still a car. Exactly, yeah. So if you turned up with a chin strap beard, if I said, oh, my friend Andy's coming along. By the way, he's got a beard. Yeah. Great. He'd come along. And if you had a chin strap beard. And no moustache. You would go, and no moustache, you would go, oh, one of those. Like you feel when you see a convertible. Oh, it's one of those. It's still a car. Yes. But you assume a roof. Now. Yes, I don't. Now, if the roof was out by itself, that you'd just call that the roof of a car. Yes. So I've got a rare situation for Abby where they're both right. Yep. Like, but we would say her friends are more right. Yeah, you, you, you. No, because they shouldn't be laughing at her. They're wrong. I think Abby, I think Abby's right. Yeah.

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  Because she was saying a moustache exists within the beard as well. Like you could, you could clean the roof of your car. You wouldn't have to go, oh, I've got a car and a roof. You were allowed to just say, I've got a car. I'm glad they've sorted that out. They can turn up. Yes, the moustache is the convertible top of the car. Ignoring the fact that sometimes people obviously just have moustaches. That's where it breaks down. That is where it breaks down. You don't see people walking along the freeway just in the roof of a car. That one's top of their head.

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  Uh, Haim, you wanted the top. Now, you know, we started the show a little bit silly, but if I could bring it back to some seriousness for a moment. Of course. Last week on the show, we touched on the idea of having the special skills conclave, getting, looking for the chosen one for special skills. Yep. So we talked about that. We brought up the world's tallest hat. We laughed it off at the time. Yes. We laughed off. We were like, look, we're not here to focus on the world's tallest hat, and we're not. World's tallest hat being 4.8 metres, for those that need a quick refresher from last week. And we just were like, look, that's something we could revisit down the track, because we all thought about 10 metres should be the world's tallest hat. Yeah. Yeah. Um. I remember we thought it was gettable to beat the record. We thought it was gettable. Anyway, we moved on. We went off and we went about our weeks.

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  I didn't. Wow.

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  I dug a little deeper into how we do this hat thing.

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  Great.

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  Now, I'm not saying we do it now. I know we've got a lot of stuff going on.

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  Yeah.

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  But I think we had some questions at the time, but I don't think I'm alone in wondering what the specifics of it are.

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  Well, yeah, we were speculating, does he have, how far do you have to walk with the hat on? Does it have to have a brim? And it was 10 metres?

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  Then wear a must walk 10 metres while wearing the hat.

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  Okay.

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  That this proves that the hat is not just a sculpture, or these are the official rules. This proves the hat is not just a sculpture or prop, but a wearable.

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  There's a real distinction between wearable and practical, because I think by the time you even go over one metre.

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  Yes. Now you've got a joke hat.

• 7:26Speaker 03

  It is wearable, but it's not a practical item.

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  That's true. With the walk, do you just get one go at the walk?

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  That is a great question.

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  Because, you know, like depending on.

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  I think, I think you can have a few goes, but let's say you're trying to smash the most watermelons with your head. If you do, you know, 48 and the record's 51, you can have another go later that day.

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  Well, sometimes. Eventually, no, the guy from Guinness World Records is gonna go home.

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  After your 18th try, when you're getting through seven watermelons, he's gonna go, okay.

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  Yes.

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  I reckon we call it for today. My bus, the last bus is about to go. You've done over 300 watermelons, but you haven't run them in succession.

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  And you've concub.

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  No one wants to see any more of this. You nearly got it on the first one, and we've just been going down from there.

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  True, but sometimes they like.

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  With a hat, you'd be allowed to have a few goes.

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  Great, because, but sometimes I've seen, particularly with television, televised ones, they're like, okay, he's gonna try it. And it seems like a one go thing, but that's great.

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  I, I, I would, I mean, I hope you can have a, look, the stakes are even higher if you only get one shot. I think the big thing we were wondering about was handles, or, or can you hold on to the brim?

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  Right. No, I, I assumed no.

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  You're not, no.

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  Yeah, well, that makes sense, because I don't see you walking around holding your cap all the time. It doesn't seem.

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  You could pretend you're a gentleman, getting ready to tip, to doff the cap.

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  Yeah.

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  But you can't have any handcuffs, but chin strap was the big one for me. You can't have a strap under the hat.

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  That makes sense.

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  A bonnet has a strap, I would argue.

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  Mm hmm.

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  Um, but a hat does not.

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  And a lot of kids in the playground have a hat on their wide brim.

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  That's true.

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  Have a.

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  That's the string.

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  String.

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  The string.

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  A drawstring is actually, you would have an adult drawstring as well.

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  Yeah, I suppose, I mean, we could talk to the record people. Think about the weight of a 10 metre tall hat.

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  Hmm.

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  The drawstring is not going to do much, but maybe cut your neck.

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  If that thing starts to go, it's probably a bit of a safety issue.

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  Had you had a think about, oh, cause I've had a bit of a think about what we make it out of.

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  Yeah, I mean, it's obviously lightweight, lightweight, lightweight has got to be the name of the game.

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  Yeah.

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  Here's the problem, the, the, the actual record holder is Australian, from Melbourne.

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  Oh.

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  So I worry that he can, he's listening to this, um.

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  And it's a bit sad to take one out of our own backyard. I kind of felt like we were going to steal from the Dutch or something and that would.

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  Yeah, when I saw the picture, it seemed like a silly, it seemed like a silly, silly kind of Euro thing to do.

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  Yeah.

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  But in fact, it's a silly Melbourne thing to do. However, I'm still happy.

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  And do, can we be outside? Do we have to be, can we be inside for the 10 metre walk?

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  Yeah, sure. I mean, yeah, if we went to like a aircraft hangar or something.

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  Yeah.

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  Something, you need something with the height.

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  Don't want the wind, that, that was the one I was.

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  Wind would be the problem.

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  Yep.

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  And I think what, from what I'm thinking, like you need a super lightweight material.

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  Hmm.

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  My gut would be that it begins to taper. I don't think we need to keep it the same width the whole way up.

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  Agreed.

• 10:22Speaker 03

  It almost, it's almost a conical hat.

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  Yep.

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  Um.

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  Like an elf woodware.

• 10:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a giant dunce's hat.

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  That's what I was thinking. Yeah.

• 10:29Speaker 03

  An ironic dunce's hat, because if you pull it off, you're certainly not the dunce.

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  Oh, you're the best.

• 10:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. Certainly if you're going above five metres.

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  Yeah.

• 10:36Speaker 03

  And then you mould, like some sort of head mould, specific to one of our heads.

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  Yep.

• 10:42Speaker 03

  Is the base of that tone. And so it's got the most chance of sticking to your head that way.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  The current world record holder, what hat could he have?

• 10:50Speaker 03

  It just looked like a very, very long kind of top hat.

• 10:53Speaker 02

  You know how with buildings, to get the biggest buildings, sometimes they just put a big antenna on the top.

• 10:58Speaker 03

  Hmm, I wondered about that too.

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  Yeah. Is there a, is there a rule of how thin we can get at the top?

• 11:05Speaker 03

  Not according to this.

• 11:07Speaker 02

  Okay. Cause there's those type of helmets that have a spike on the top.

• 11:12Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah, the, the hat must be wearable and worn. It must be a functioning hat.

• 11:19Speaker 03

  It's not.

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  It's not.

• 11:21Speaker 03

  And this is the hat you wear around?

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  Yep.

• 11:23Speaker 03

  Yeah. Just to the beach and stuff.

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  Good, good sun protection.

• 11:27Speaker 03

  People don't love it when I wear it to the movies, but yeah. Worn on the head without external support, like wires or poles. Oh yeah, no wires. We should have been a funny one. Just have you guys with guy ropes walking next to me. Though limited, limited internal support is allowed. I wonder why that's limited. I would have thought.

• 11:41Speaker 02

  Well, that's what I'm wondering, cause could, could you, is a helmet as its base, probably, that's probably too much internal support.

• 11:48Speaker 03

  I don't know. Maybe. And that'd be how you stick it to the helmet. And then no chin strap. The mission measurement includes the full vertical height from the bottom of the hat, where it sits on the head, to the highest point of the structure. So now they're calling it a structure.

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  Who do you think's best placed to wear it for the walk? Maybe we should do some kind of finishing school to see who can walk the straightest.

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  Straightest, yeah.

• 12:08Speaker 02

  You know, we all put a book on our head or something and.

• 12:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. I mean, it doesn't have to be by, maybe by any stretch. Materials and construction must be safe. Guinness does not allow dangerous or hazardous items in record attempts.

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  Okay.

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  And of course, you know, they're independent witnesses and videos.

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  What did they, did it list what the guy made his out of?

• 12:25Speaker 03

  No, I don't think that, I don't think he's gonna give that away.

• 12:28Speaker 02

  Both teams kind of keep the materials to themselves and you, a risk of a rival hat maker getting the edge on, on design and materials.

• 12:37Speaker 05

  Here's a controversial suggestion. The guys in Australia, why don't we team up with him? And together we build the world's tallest hat because he has experience. He can answer all of these questions for us.

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  Hmm.

• 12:53Speaker 03

  It does feel good having a nemesis.

• 12:58Speaker 02

  What? And like he walks, what, we're just gonna watch another guy do it?

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  We're just gonna give him our, Jack, have you watched any documentaries on the Cold War? There's no point if we're both.

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  Yeah.

• 13:08Speaker 03

  Successfully have, you know, you've got 5,000 nukes, I've got 5,000 nukes. We could all both have 10,000.

• 13:15Speaker 05

  It could be a big win for Australia though. So if any other countries are circling going, we gotta do that hat prank. We gotta do the tall hat.

• 13:21Speaker 03

  It's not a prank, remember. This isn't a prank. This is about prestige. You're thinking of the five hat prank.

• 13:26Speaker 02

  So do you think, do you think we are that ill-equipped that we need another guy that can walk?

• 13:32Speaker 05

  Well, we don't know anything. And we keep, I feel sorry for Hamish because we keep asking him about the original hat and he knows nothing about it.

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  He knows nothing about it.

• 13:43Speaker 02

  I said I had a little bit of research. I didn't go and interview everyone that's been involved in the previous hat record. I don't wanna know about his hat. Either do I, because. I wanna do my own hat. Because my. Our own hat. The problem, the problem is, Jack, is that if we go off his, he only gets to 4.8 metres. Like, we wanna smash that. He, his design.

• 14:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. We, we, we built, like, we literally built on his, his hat.

• 14:06Speaker 02

  No, no, but that's the thing. You only, you know, he probably has some limits he's put on himself there. I want completely unlimited. Yeah. You know, blue sky thinking here. Yeah. I also think, Jack, if we went to him and said, listen, we've heard whispers that you're trying to break 4.8. So are we. Do we team up? He would be within his rights to go, why would I team up with you? Hmm. I know, we've got experience. What's your experience? We read about it. Yeah.

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  Yeah.

• 14:30Speaker 02

  Yours. Have you built any other hats before? Actually, we get in there. Yeah, I built five.

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  But I went, I went for widest hat.

• 14:41Speaker 05

  And they were mostly stapled together.

• 14:44Speaker 02

  All right. Watch this face.

• 14:50Speaker 02

  Hey, they keep coming in. And so we need to keep delivering them to people to know that they're not alone with extreme empathy. It's time to jump into this.

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  Of course, that's every song ever written played all at once, so no song feels left out for Extreme Empaths. Do you want me to kick it off? Let's do it. This is Michael D from New Zealand. He goes, on the Extreme Empaths. I'm changing my fitness watch from an Apple Watch to a Garmin. Oh, okay. The day I picked up my new watch, I took my Apple Watch for one last walk in the park to all the places we go, followed by a run, then a swim. It enjoyed it, it enjoyed the activities like we always did together for one last time.

• 15:35Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, I'm actually in the same boat. Again, this is not, um, for no weasel purposes at all here. Receipts available on request, but I'm a Garmin.

• 15:44Speaker 02

  Really?

• 15:44Speaker 03

  Because the battery lasts for 31 days and I just quit.

• 15:47Speaker 02

  You're not a charger.

• 15:48Speaker 03

  Fuss almost. You can't, you can't be expecting me every 24 hours to get that thing back on the charge. Like, that is just not gonna happen. But the Apple Watch sits there, dead, looking at me, um, every time I open the drawer.

• 16:03Speaker 02

  Really?

• 16:03Speaker 03

  And it sees, sees the Garmin and the Garmin, I winks, I feel. Maybe if you had a bit more juice. Both great products. And, uh, this is from Emma. I can always keep weasel hatches open for any time in the future. Both have their merits. I made a, I made a decision based on my personal circumstance.

• 16:24Speaker 02

  Yes, of course.

• 16:25Speaker 03

  This is from Emma and, uh, about our opener for Extreme Empath. He says, I think it's lovely that you guys have included every song ever written for the theme tune. But what about all the songs that have come out since you made the theme song?

• 16:41Speaker 03

  I feel really sad knowing that they're listing going, I didn't get included in the theme song.

• 16:47Speaker 02

  But I think that's okay. I mean, when you've got fun memories, like, like when we, when I talk about something fun that happened that my nephew wasn't alive for, I don't think he goes, oh, gosh.

• 16:59Speaker 03

  But these songs, had we made the theme song today, they'd be in.

• 17:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:03Speaker 03

  And they're not.

• 17:08Speaker 02

  This is from Lucky. My partner Annabelle and I are doctors. He writes, I'm currently on days while she's on nights. Meaning the bed is almost occupied 24 hours a day. Annabelle has started delaying going to bed to make sure the bed has a little bit of a break.

• 17:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, no bed can withstand that, that thrashing. Fabian writes in, I'm an extreme empath because all tin cans are now essentially ring pulls. I still like to open one every now and again with my can opener because I feel sorry it doesn't get any use these days.

• 17:53Speaker 05

  Like all those people getting their jobs taken by AI.

• 17:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, when ring pulls came along, the cannibals were furious.

• 18:01Speaker 02

  From William, vending machine empath. Goes, I bought a bottle of water from vending machine the other day. I'm not an empath, but my wife is. And she got upset and felt sorry for the bottle falling from a height and hurting itself and dropped to the bottom of the machine. She felt that I should have selected a water lowered.

• 18:21Speaker 02

  According to that logic, she would have really been upset when I ripped its head off and drank its bodily fluids.

• 18:30Speaker 03

  And this is from Alastair. He says, whenever I'm typing and editing a document or email, I sometimes realise I've typed the same word twice. I always make sure that I delete the most recent version of the word, not the original. Cause I can't stand the thought of ending a word's life because some new upstart version of it just came along and took its place straight away afterwards.

• 18:54Speaker 02

  Molly, I'm an extreme empath. I just found out that there is a bone in the body called the hyoid. Responsible for our ability to talk and swallow, et cetera. It's the only bone in our body that isn't connected to another bone. He's all alone, floating around like the last kid picked in the schoolyard.

• 19:20Speaker 03

  So you could have a surgery to connect it to a rib or something.

• 19:24Speaker 05

  Blood speaking would be weird.

• 19:25Speaker 03

  Would impede things, I imagine. All, all seems to work. And this is from Hannah. She's a flight attendant. Said, uh, she's from New Zealand, flies destination back there and back in a day, E.G. Auckland, Fiji, Auckland. I did this last week and as I closed the aircraft door in Fiji, I noticed a fly had snuck in the aircraft. I was unable to reopen the door and let him out. I felt immediately sad this fly would soon be arriving in Auckland, never to return to his family. And would have to start a new life 1300 miles away.

• 19:59Speaker 02

  A lot of people do migrate to New Zealand though, it's a lovely.

• 20:02Speaker 05

  It's a nice place.

• 20:03Speaker 03

  I think the flight enjoy a crack at the big city. And what's to say if he doesn't just cruise around the, I mean, it's not hard. Fly into the airport, look at the board, see when the plane's going back and just.

• 20:12Speaker 05

  And try to get back.

• 20:13Speaker 03

  Catch your flight home.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  Guys.

• 20:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:24Speaker 02

  At the house build, we found something.

• 20:29Speaker 03

  Another tunnel.

• 20:30Speaker 02

  No, no, it's not.

• 20:31Speaker 03

  A neighbour has tunneled in.

• 20:33Speaker 02

  It's not.

• 20:33Speaker 03

  Hoping, there was a tunnel party, hoping to access some of your subterranean treasures.

• 20:39Speaker 02

  No, it was.

• 20:40Speaker 03

  Like your golf sim.

• 20:41Speaker 02

  Not.

• 20:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, my next door neighbour, I'm good mates with one of my neighbours already, guy called Blakey.

• 20:47Speaker 05

  Built a tunnel to his house.

• 20:49Speaker 02

  Um, he's got the same surname as you, maybe related to him, maybe that's why I like him.

• 20:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:53Speaker 02

  Just like the psychology of it, but um.

• 20:55Speaker 03

  I'm sure you're not playing favourites with your neighbours though, I'm sure you're friends with all of them.

• 20:58Speaker 02

  No, no, I've got my favs.

• 21:01Speaker 02

  Um, and I think Blakey would like a little tunnel to the golf sim, he's into his golf.

• 21:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:06Speaker 02

  And I can just do a bit of a walkie talkie to him like we're kids and see you down there.

• 21:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, tunnel's very expensive, he could also just wander over.

• 21:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's probably a better idea.

• 21:17Speaker 03

  I think if you're looking at the cost, costings, the walkie talkie is definitely the cheaper option.

• 21:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:22Speaker 03

  Come on over, I'll let you in as a friend.

• 21:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:25Speaker 03

  Come in the front gate.

• 21:27Speaker 02

  We found.

• 21:28Speaker 03

  What'd you find?

• 21:29Speaker 02

  We found a bunch of things when you were digging the tunnel.

• 21:31Speaker 03

  Yep. Yep. Well, you have dug down to a, I've seen the hole. I mean, approximately the Cretaceous period, so.

• 21:40Speaker 03

  Massive hole.

• 21:41Speaker 02

  It's old, it's big.

• 21:42Speaker 03

  So it wouldn't be, I'm not surprised by what you found. Bit of the meteorite that killed the dinosaurs, what have you found?

• 21:48Speaker 02

  We found something when dismantling one of the walls in the house.

• 21:53Speaker 03

  Oh, I guess this is on the surface.

• 21:54Speaker 02

  It's on the surface.

• 21:55Speaker 03

  But that's a, it's a very old.

• 21:58Speaker 02

  Well, it's from 1876, the house. We found a coin from 1896.

• 22:04Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 22:06Speaker 02

  And then, and this where it gets a bit eerie. So they, but wait, they built the house and 20 years later, they put a coin in the wall.

• 22:13Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, they didn't, I, they, I mean, I know there wasn't much to do back in those days, but it might've just fallen in there accidentally. I don't think they said, come around, we're putting a coin in the wall.

• 22:24Speaker 02

  That's right, yeah.

• 22:25Speaker 03

  Sounds like the kind of thing they did do in the 1800s. Like whenever we have to explain the olden days to the kids is they always go, why? Like I was explaining dancing around the maypole to my daughter, which is where, you know, you dance around, you have the ribbons that kind of wrap up in a pattern. She's like, why did they do that?

• 22:40Speaker 02

  Cause Nintendo wasn't big.

• 22:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, no internet, no internet. Like you just had to, you had to think of something to do. So it could have, very possible, come around with putting a coin in the wall.

• 22:50Speaker 02

  Well, Beck wants to put something in the wall for us, like so for in 200 years when someone else.

• 22:58Speaker 05

  I like that, yeah.

• 22:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, so we don't know what that is yet.

• 23:01Speaker 05

  Well, if you get the Hamish and Andy dollar coin, what, put another coin in the wall.

• 23:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, oh my God, keep the tradition going.

• 23:06Speaker 02

  That'd be nice. Well, that's another reason why we need this coin. Anyway, we found a flask.

• 23:13Speaker 03

  Oh, a flask?

• 23:14Speaker 02

  What is that?

• 23:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, look at this.

• 23:16Speaker 02

  Which one looks with a white powder inside it.

• 23:20Speaker 03

  Oh, there we go.

• 23:21Speaker 02

  The cork has eroded at the top. What, what do you mean here?

• 23:24Speaker 03

  Oh, it just sounds like, sounds like something that, you know, you, something from Mad Monday, 1896.

• 23:33Speaker 03

  And, and no, no, your honour, the, the cork eroded and it fell on to me. I, I wasn't trying to take it. The cork eroded.

• 23:40Speaker 05

  No, but it looks so old and daisy.

• 23:42Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, I did, Ham's right, it does look a little bit like cocaine, doesn't it?

• 23:47Speaker 03

  And he's brought cocaine to the show, Jack. How do you feel about that?

• 23:51Speaker 03

  And he's trying to blame erosion as to why it would be falling out.

• 23:56Speaker 02

  I looked up cocaine arrived in Australia in the late 1800s.

• 24:00Speaker 05

  Really?

• 24:01Speaker 02

  Yeah. So.

• 24:02Speaker 05

  It was probably legal, but it was probably like a medicine or something back then.

• 24:05Speaker 02

  It was, it was like.

• 24:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, for headaches.

• 24:07Speaker 02

  Headaches.

• 24:08Speaker 03

  And inability to, um, talk about crypto. If you couldn't, like, oh, I'll have some of this.

• 24:15Speaker 02

  So I don't know what is in here. I don't know what it is, but I wondered.

• 24:20Speaker 03

  This is great. I mean, we were joking about it, Andy might accidentally take a class A prohibited drug on the show.

• 24:30Speaker 02

  What are the rules there? I mean, now that I've got it.

• 24:33Speaker 05

  I think like in sci, isn't there a bit of grey area because it's scientific?

• 24:39Speaker 03

  So it works for me.

• 24:41Speaker 02

  So footy players wear lab coats if they're in the season trip. Just, yeah, okay.

• 24:47Speaker 03

  A lot of lab coats and logis.

• 24:51Speaker 03

  Do you, is it just, I mean, who knows? Do you get it analysed? I mean.

• 24:56Speaker 02

  Great idea. I think.

• 24:58Speaker 03

  But that doesn't, that sounds a bit boring. Wouldn't it be more fun to just have a little bit and see what happens?

• 25:04Speaker 02

  Getting, getting huge head shakes from outside. So what about if, if, I mean, obviously we've got amazing, great listeners here. If anyone works or knows someone that works in the kind of laboratory that could test this for us and find out what the powder is.

• 25:19Speaker 03

  Whenever there's a scandal, it's like, oh, you know, such and such was seen with a white powder on the table.

• 25:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:24Speaker 03

  And that, because you have to say that because it's, you know, if you know what it is, you can't actually say it. This is the one time where white powder is actually the correct term.

• 25:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:35Speaker 03

  It could just be nothing. It could just be old sand or something.

• 25:38Speaker 02

  And it looks like the bottle, I mean, it feels very old because the bottle has been handmade. Like it hasn't come out of a factory or anything.

• 25:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:45Speaker 02

  It's, it's, it's, it's old.

• 25:48Speaker 05

  And the cork does look like it's lived 150 years.

• 25:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:52Speaker 05

  So.

• 25:53Speaker 03

  And how much was the coin for?

• 25:55Speaker 02

  How much was the coin for?

• 25:56Speaker 03

  Like, what was the coin? What denomination?

• 25:58Speaker 05

  It was just a commemorative coin. They were doing commemorative coins back in the 1800s.

• 26:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:04Speaker 05

  What was it commemorating?

• 26:05Speaker 02

  Ah, I should know.

• 26:06Speaker 03

  Seventeen hundreds.

• 26:09Speaker 05

  Maybe the centennial.

• 26:11Speaker 03

  You've got to remember, back in the 1896, they thought they were in the future from the 1850s.

• 26:16Speaker 02

  Okay. So this goes off to the lab. We'll get the results coming back.

• 26:20Speaker 03

  If you imagine, I mean, you are just serving it up on a platter for the Daily Mail here if that is a drug. I mean, this is great. Andy Lee finds drugs and cash stashed in house.

• 26:32Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 26:32Speaker 03

  Not mine. The cork corroded. It's for scientific reasons.

• 26:38Speaker 03

  This is, this is, this is fascinating.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  Okay, we'll come to us.

• 26:41Speaker 03

  Probably, I reckon that if you look at the pie chart, I actually think drugs is probably very, very slim.

• 26:47Speaker 02

  What would they call it?

• 26:48Speaker 03

  Or like narcotics is probably very slim. Poison could be.

• 26:52Speaker 02

  I thought poison as well.

• 26:54Speaker 03

  Poison feels a lot more eighteen ninety-six. Because it was the eighteen hundreds, mate.

• 26:58Speaker 02

  There was a lot of poisoning in the olden days.

• 27:00Speaker 03

  Lot of poisoning.

• 27:01Speaker 02

  Really?

• 27:02Speaker 03

  Mate, read Shakespeare, poison here, poison there.

• 27:04Speaker 02

  There was people employed for like kings and stuff to eat food before the king ate it because it might be poison.

• 27:10Speaker 03

  You're right, yeah, yeah, taste testers.

• 27:12Speaker 02

  Okay, well, stay tuned, everybody, we're on this adventure.

• 27:22Speaker 03

  Hame, we've continued on with this.

• 27:35Speaker 02

  Hmm, Hame, we met, we met off-site, um, at our, like, our den, we're not going to disclose where we're putting together the plans.

• 27:44Speaker 03

  I, I covered my mouth while we were talking in case anyone was filming it and lip reading.

• 27:48Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 27:48Speaker 03

  But then I realised, no biggie, because we were also recording it. So I stopped doing that, but we needed, we, we, I'll just say it right now, we've picked the job.

• 27:59Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 27:59Speaker 03

  So this is our plan to test small business security somewhere.

• 28:03Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 28:03Speaker 03

  We needed the boss of the business essentially to register and go, yep, come try and steal something from our car yard or whatever.

• 28:09Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 28:11Speaker 03

  We've, we've assessed them, we met off-site, we, we brought our most, our favourite potential targets to this meeting. I'm just gonna say now, we have picked one.

• 28:20Speaker 02

  And, um.

• 28:20Speaker 03

  You don't think you're gonna hear the job in this little bit of audio we play, because we have to, the security around it now, we've got to beep that out.

• 28:28Speaker 02

  But this is how we got to that point when we all met up to pick the job.

• 28:38Speaker 03

  At some point, don't do it now, but we need codenames or nicknames. Just so when we're talking about it and, and or for instance, if we've got comms during the heist. Yep. And someone's listening in, they don't know it's us. Sorry, codenames for us or codenames for the heist? I'd like to be Godzilla.

• 28:55Speaker 05

  No, no, it's gonna, it's gonna be more subtle than that.

• 28:59Speaker 03

  Codename Godzilla?

• 29:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, because that draws attention.

• 29:02Speaker 03

  Well, Jeff.

• 29:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 29:03Speaker 03

  Well, just call me Amish.

• 29:06Speaker 03

  Isn't the fun of a codename that you, you name it?

• 29:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, I know, but, but, but I think like, say if people are listening.

• 29:12Speaker 03

  Osama bin Laden was even allowed to be Geronimo. Geronimo.

• 29:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, but I thought if anyone's listening into our comms and they hear us refer to Godzilla, they'll say, that's suspicious.

• 29:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I have to have a, just a regular and I have to be Kev.

• 29:26Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 29:28Speaker 03

  Or Dale, like, what, what is that what you're saying?

• 29:31Speaker 05

  Somewhere between Dale and Godzilla.

• 29:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, so Ed, it's right. It's just, yeah, you've gone the extremes. I think we should go somewhere.

• 29:38Speaker 05

  That's my brother's name. That could get confusing.

• 29:40Speaker 03

  Mate, okay, well, let's, obviously this is too hard to decide. We'll do codenames later. Let's talk the actual target. Mm hmm. I've narrowed mine down to two, I reckon. Comes in from Locky, we would be burgying a martial arts centre.

• 29:58Speaker 05

  Oh, dangerous.

• 30:00Speaker 03

  Which is why I love it, Jack. I mean, that's, do we wanna, do we wanna do something that requires some balls here or not?

• 30:05Speaker 05

  No, we discussed that last.

• 30:07Speaker 03

  Fly kicked in the head. He's, he's saying they have one of those practice dummies that they do kicking and punching on, you know, like the rubber torso and the head. It's called Greg. He's like, could you steal Greg? That's, that's the challenge. How do you get in and out with Greg without being detected? Now, it just isn't, as a problem to solve, I don't mind it. My immediate thought is we need to put Greg in something. Yes, I thought we'd come in as vending machine repairman or something like that. So we're wheeling a big box. Or air conditioning, air conditioner guys.

• 30:37Speaker 05

  Or a hollow vending machine.

• 30:38Speaker 03

  That's what I was thinking.

• 30:39Speaker 05

  Oh, that's good.

• 30:40Speaker 03

  Well, that's why I said it, Jack.

• 30:41Speaker 05

  Sorry, it sounded like Andy's idea, but go ahead.

• 30:44Speaker 03

  You've got something big that you're bringing in, that's what I mean. And then you make a fake one of that, put Greg in there and take him out.

• 30:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 30:51Speaker 03

  Possibility.

• 30:52Speaker 02

  The fun about that is the reconnaissance is fun. One, we'd have to send in one of us.

• 30:56Speaker 03

  We'd have to figure out where Greg is.

• 30:58Speaker 02

  Take the course.

• 31:00Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 31:00Speaker 02

  To go in there, check it out, then.

• 31:04Speaker 03

  You're right, actually.

• 31:04Speaker 02

  Yep, and potentially wear Google Glass or those glasses that record where you're walking.

• 31:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, I've got two pairs of Ray-Ban Metters.

• 31:12Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 31:12Speaker 03

  So I'm very happy to donate one pair.

• 31:16Speaker 03

  I said there was an ordering mishap as I was impulse buying them.

• 31:19Speaker 02

  Here's another one from Jemima then. I nominate my husband a small business. He's a builder. Go in and steal his excavator.

• 31:28Speaker 03

  Shit, that's good.

• 31:28Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 31:29Speaker 03

  Could you? How big is it? Little, small one? Big one?

• 31:32Speaker 02

  Don't know, that's weird.

• 31:33Speaker 03

  We'd have to get licensed to drive. I mean, my mate, Trinny, drives an excavator. He could, Trinny could give us a crash course.

• 31:38Speaker 02

  The excitement of that is we have to find out what size it is. Obviously, it's getting onto a trailer. We're not gonna have the, we don't have a slope speed chase of, of, of him chasing down an excavator.

• 31:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, he can catch us.

• 31:51Speaker 02

  But we have to work out some idea as to why we had to pick it up. Maybe a repair.

• 32:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, excavator extraction, that's tricky.

• 32:04Speaker 02

  It's tricky, but it's an expensive bit of equipment that you wouldn't want to lose the builder.

• 32:07Speaker 03

  Mate, absolutely, not the whole thing. I mean, if it's a big digger, that's, that's the whole business.

• 32:12Speaker 02

  Don't you think though, like that idea of pretending to be a repairman? It's his excavator, so he's gonna remember if you booked a repairman or not. We can't just.

• 32:18Speaker 03

  Nah, not if we show him the clipboard with his name on it. Mate, it's right here.

• 32:22Speaker 02

  Is that where you go in beforehand? Oh, right, wreck it, so it needs a repair. We deliberately remove something.

• 32:32Speaker 02

  He's on a call.

• 32:32Speaker 03

  Then we could come around and say.

• 32:34Speaker 02

  Intercept the call.

• 32:34Speaker 03

  We, yeah, that's cool. We could come around and go, we're from WorkSafe, like DigSafe or whatever. We just need to inspect your excavator. Oh, mate, your tube here has come out. We're gonna have to take her?

• 32:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:50Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 32:52Speaker 03

  Anyway, we're just spitballing, we're spitballing.

• 32:55Speaker 02

  No one has the plan straight away.

• 32:56Speaker 03

  This is why, this is why when you do a heist, they usually go and like live in an abandoned warehouse for like six weeks. You've got to figure out the plan. It's not, you never pick up the phone and go, we're doing it tomorrow. And they go, yeah, great, sounds easy. You have to work out the plan. What about this?

• 33:12Speaker 03

  I'd like you guys to security test my. So straight away like, oh, what's this, files and stuff? No. Says, I think if you can steal a painting off the staircase, it'd be amazing. Especially given only one person can fit in the staircase at one time. That's fine. Then he says, if it's too difficult, try this, but I actually think we should do both. He goes, if not, steal the company.

• 33:37Speaker 03

  That'd be hilarious. So you guys try and find the keys and try to steal the car from the staff parking area. This is from, because everyone expects you to do security tests in the big cities, but come to a regional town where we won't expect it. And driving away in a car with the painting is an amazing finale.

• 33:53Speaker 02

  I like that. Grand theft auto and an art heist.

• 33:56Speaker 03

  An art heist and a.

• 33:59Speaker 02

  I like that.

• 34:01Speaker 03

  There's so much we need to know. We need to know what the paintings are. Are they alarmed? How do you get into the stairwell? How do you get out of the stairwell? Why are you here? Where are the keys to?

• 34:10Speaker 02

  He's the only, I don't want to yuck your yum here, but the only thing for me is that it's a long way for us to go for the reconnaissance part of it. Like. The recon would be like the night before, we stay one night in a motel, then rob the place.

• 34:23Speaker 03

  Well, that, I don't like that because we give you.

• 34:28Speaker 03

  We give you 12 hours to formulate a plan.

• 34:30Speaker 02

  We're going no matter what. You didn't see George Clooney and Brad Pitt go, we're doing it tomorrow. And they're like, well, that doesn't give us time to plan. It's like, well, it's expensive for everybody here.

• 34:41Speaker 03

  We'd love to be done by the weekend. I think, I think we can make contact with someone in. And we, even in first instance, get someone to walk in there with the video glasses on.

• 34:53Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 34:54Speaker 03

  Scope it out. We, we can then look at the footage. We can then start to get a bit of information. Build up a list of questions we need answered. Where are the keys? What's the art situation like? What does the building look like? What's the schematics of the building? Wouldn't it be, oh, let's get blueprints.

• 35:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, we'll definitely get it. All right. Is that the one we're going for?

• 35:13Speaker 03

  Is it an art heist from?

• 35:17Speaker 02

  I think it is, isn't it? Yeah, okay, great.

• 35:21Speaker 03

  I think it is.

• 35:21Speaker 02

  So with that in mind, hmm. I mean.

• 35:27Speaker 03

  Just commence operation.

• 35:28Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 35:28Speaker 03

  That's what we say.

• 35:29Speaker 02

  I know, but then you go off and do nothing. You go off and play golf.

• 35:33Speaker 03

  I'm the one that bought the job. Yeah. I bought the job to the crew.

• 35:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, all right, I'll get on.

• 35:39Speaker 03

  No, no, make some contact.

• 35:43Speaker 03

  And write, write this down. Make some contact. I reckon I'll talk to ****.

• 35:48Speaker 02

  No.

• 35:48Speaker 03

  Bloody me doing everything. No, he knows.

• 35:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, but we don't. I was under the impression we're not going to go and.

• 35:54Speaker 03

  Oh, we don't tell **** they're doing it.

• 35:56Speaker 02

  Well, then we've got an inside person.

• 35:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, we, we don't tell him.

• 35:59Speaker 03

  But we need him to go. We need him to give us the amnesty letter to go, hey.

• 36:05Speaker 05

  Oh, that's true as well.

• 36:06Speaker 03

  Like, he just says, I would like you to security test my ****. What if he's made a mistake and he, he's the receptionist?

• 36:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, okay.

• 36:13Speaker 03

  No, but you know what I mean? And we go, no, no, send us. They're like, ****, he isn't working for five years.

• 36:19Speaker 03

  I think we actually need to get **** on a polygraph to swear that he's not gonna spill the beans. He needs to be okay with us doing this. Cause remember.

• 36:26Speaker 02

  I don't like him knowing that, cause it can go either way.

• 36:28Speaker 03

  In the movie, this is based off, okay, sneakers, Robert Redford from the nineties. The board of the bank agrees to hire the guys. Okay, so when they get caught, no one's in trouble.

• 36:38Speaker 05

  That's true.

• 36:38Speaker 03

  We do need to have blessing from above. He wouldn't, he can't say anything, but we're not asking him for all the details. We're just saying.

• 36:46Speaker 05

  He, he has to promise two things, that he won't spill the beans or that he won't himself try to increase security like he starts wandering around there at night.

• 36:54Speaker 02

  Or decrease security. I don't want him helping or hindering.

• 36:58Speaker 03

  Or actually is the boss. Like, we actually need to know he's the boss.

• 37:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got to confirm that. He's also got to promise that he doesn't increase security or decrease. He's, he's gotta just remain.

• 37:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's gotta be a valid test. Like, it could be any given night.

• 37:12Speaker 02

  All right.

• 37:13Speaker 03

  So I've just gone on the website of ****. The great thing is **** is a director. So there's, there's three directors and he's one of them. So we do have blessings from up on high.

• 37:24Speaker 02

  Right.

• 37:25Speaker 03

  The next steps are, we get the layout. What is the painting? What does the office look like?

• 37:29Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 37:29Speaker 03

  And then we've got enough to come back and start. We have a real, proper meeting where we, we formulate the plan.

• 37:35Speaker 02

  Love it, okay.

• 37:41Speaker 03

  Last three weekends in a row, we have done the Back to the Future trilogy.

• 37:46Speaker 05

  Oh, cool.

• 37:47Speaker 02

  One, one a weekend. I'm assuming you didn't do all three, all three weekends?

• 37:52Speaker 03

  So in the first two weekends, hyping up the kids. It was in nine, nine hours in a row. No, yeah, one a weekend.

• 37:59Speaker 02

  How did they feel once they got to three?

• 38:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, loved it. Three's, three's not too bad.

• 38:04Speaker 05

  I love three. I, I.

• 38:04Speaker 03

  Three's good.

• 38:05Speaker 05

  It gets a bad rap, but it's good.

• 38:07Speaker 03

  It's a slightly bad rap. This is in the Wild West, for those that haven't seen it. Um, Zo foolishly, or just, just really, just, I mean, questionably sat out the middle weekend. She had something to do, so it was just me and the kids watching Back to the Future two. And she goes, I thought that was the bad one. I was like, who told you that? It's the, it's the good one. It's the hoverboard one.

• 38:26Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 38:27Speaker 03

  Of course it is. Anyway, went down a treat. So, you know, anyone with seven to 10 year olds, that, that zone just worked brilliantly. And like, an explaining, it's funny because you really go, like, the kids have got some great questions about time travel. And it's like, how does this work? But if you go back and you meet your dad.

• 38:46Speaker 02

  When, when, when he's in the future, what is it?

• 38:48Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, the funny thing about it is that's 2015 he goes forward to. So in the movies, he goes from 1985 to 2015, where it's like flying cars and hoverboards and stuff.

• 38:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:58Speaker 03

  Which, you know, we all, we all were promised things in the future and we all know that it's just, the wheels of progress move a little slower.

• 39:05Speaker 02

  But there's also some, well, I mean, obviously we're not flying cars.

• 39:08Speaker 03

  Oh, and guess the internet. So, you know, we got the internet.

• 39:10Speaker 02

  And the screens. I remember seeing all the screens and going, oh my gosh, there'll be a lot of screens in the future. And that's true.

• 39:15Speaker 05

  There's lots of screens.

• 39:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:18Speaker 03

  They did the best they could and they called a few things. But that's why, I mean, this is not the point here, but remember our friend Ryan, Ryan Shelton from the Imperfects podcast. You know, great mate of all of ours. He's a huge Back to the Future fan and he actually, he, we watched Back to the Future one with us. And he doesn't have kids of his own, but he was like, teary. Cause he was like, this is, I've always dreamed of watching Back to the Future with kids and, and, and explaining it to them. And I guess since I don't have any yet, this is just seems like a quick way to get that high. But remember in 2015, so on the actual date in the movie, that they go forward to, there was an, there was like a huge fan festival in LA.

• 40:01Speaker 02

  He went there.

• 40:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, he went. Ryan went and it was 10 days long.

• 40:06Speaker 02

  So much, Jack.

• 40:07Speaker 03

  He went by himself.

• 40:08Speaker 02

  Went by himself and it costs so much. And I remember when he got back, he didn't really want to talk about it.

• 40:15Speaker 03

  I think he knew he'd overstepped. I think he was like, it's great to be a fan of a movie.

• 40:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:20Speaker 03

  But, and it's all, it's even awesome to go to an event that's based on the movie you're a huge fan of. Like, if you're into manga and stuff, go to Comic Con, sure.

• 40:29Speaker 02

  But after day, anything you love, yeah, day two, day three, you're going, okay.

• 40:33Speaker 03

  But if they were driving out to like car parks and stuff going on, this is the scene, you know, this is the shopping centre where the, the time machine takes off. But in the movie, it's awesome.

• 40:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:44Speaker 03

  Because it's a movie.

• 40:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:45Speaker 03

  But in real life, it is a car park and a shopping centre and you would be, you'd be sitting there going, I had lived 10,000 kilometres away from here. And this is day six and we haven't even done. Haven't done the enchantment under the sea dance yet. That's the big finale. I think, yeah, he opted out of a few days. He just sort of stopped going. But it hasn't dampened his spirits because he was a good participant. Here's the thing though, to get the Back to the Future movies these days, and I was explaining to the kids, like, you know, I used to work at a video store. You know, oh dad, is that the photos of you when you ate all the Magna Me goes?

• 41:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 41:23Speaker 03

  We don't recognise you. Yeah, well, no, that learned my lesson. But I was explaining to them like, you know, this was like, this was a hot, this was a hot item still in video world. But now you, the only way that, the only way you could get them is they're on Apple TV. Like you have to rent them.

• 41:37Speaker 02

  So you can't stream them. No streamer has it.

• 41:39Speaker 03

  No streamer's got it.

• 41:40Speaker 02

  There's a few of those. There's a few.

• 41:42Speaker 03

  Spaceballs is another one you cannot get.

• 41:45Speaker 02

  There's a few, I reckon, shows.

• 41:46Speaker 03

  Sorry to be so passionate, but I'm really in a.

• 41:48Speaker 02

  Spaceballs isn't really Back to the Future.

• 41:51Speaker 03

  Oh, it's pretty essential.

• 41:55Speaker 02

  But there's a few movies and TV shows that have gone, that have shirked the streamers and think they can make more money from the pay. And I know this and you guys will laugh, but I'll say it anyway. I know this because that's what they did.

• 42:05Speaker 03

  Don't, not Mary Poppins.

• 42:06Speaker 02

  No, Law and Order SUV. You, you're paying episode per episode.

• 42:11Speaker 03

  You can't pay.

• 42:12Speaker 02

  You can't get them.

• 42:14Speaker 03

  They're unlimited episodes. It's got to be the only one.

• 42:17Speaker 02

  Postseason 25, they are only, you can only buy them.

• 42:23Speaker 03

  You're part of the problem, not the solution. It's because of people like you, they're like, guys, why would we make these available to stream for free? We know, look at the data coming out of this patch of Melbourne.

• 42:34Speaker 05

  This alone is enough for us to stay.

• 42:36Speaker 03

  They can't get enough of this household. Now what we need is 100,000 of these people. We're on easy street for the rest of our life.

• 42:46Speaker 02

  Saying it's back to the future, there's plenty of the.

• 42:48Speaker 03

  You should have an SVU convention where you go across to New York and look at where different blood splatters happened and stuff. Would you go?

• 42:56Speaker 02

  Beck and I did walk to the courthouse.

• 42:58Speaker 03

  Oh, you would have, of course.

• 42:59Speaker 02

  Beck and I did walk to the courthouse to have a look at the stairs. Yeah.

• 43:02Speaker 03

  Anyway, the thing about renting the movies, Back to the Future movies from Apple TV.

• 43:06Speaker 02

  Forty-eight hours.

• 43:08Speaker 03

  Forty-eight hours?

• 43:08Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 43:09Speaker 03

  Here's my question, as someone.

• 43:10Speaker 05

  Wait, I didn't even know that. So you rent it and they.

• 43:13Speaker 02

  Of course you don't know, mate. As if you're paying for something.

• 43:15Speaker 03

  You would never pay. This is the guy that still has never paid for an app.

• 43:20Speaker 03

  Or a golf ball.

• 43:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's never paid.

• 43:22Speaker 03

  In his entire life.

• 43:23Speaker 02

  If you rent a movie.

• 43:26Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 43:26Speaker 02

  Which is like six bucks normally.

• 43:28Speaker 03

  I think it's 4.99, yeah.

• 43:29Speaker 02

  It bounces around. There's ones that, there's ones that are, they're new release. It's funny, it's like new releases back in blockbuster days, they're gonna be cost more. But if you, you've got 48 hours, but the other thing is they have gone for weeklies. The lower the grade film, Ham, you don't.

• 43:43Speaker 05

  So it's like blockbuster.

• 43:45Speaker 02

  You get longer.

• 43:46Speaker 03

  We have to, we have to sometimes like split it across a Saturday and a Sunday night if we start it too late on Saturday. But you get, here's the thing, like you get the alert on your phone going, oh, you've only got like five hours left to finish watching Back to the Future 2. And look, we're friends with Apple. I think everyone, you know, everyone's got to appreciate what Apple has done. Um, we've all had interactions with their product. But they are a trillion dollar company.

• 44:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, give us six or four hours.

• 44:15Speaker 03

  Yeah. Like, why are you riding me? You should go, you've got for five hours and 21 minutes to watch this movie. Otherwise, we take it back. It's not a real movie. It's not like the video store. There's not another family that will miss out on saying it. It's data. Like, why are you being such cheapskates for four bucks? You're making $3,000 a phone. Hey, just go, look, it has expired. We don't care. It's data. Like, it doesn't mean, it doesn't mean anything to us if you missed out on watching the last hour.

• 44:47Speaker 02

  Well, that's what's so funny about the rent or buy. I mean, you don't go back to, because you can rent them or buy them, Jack.

• 44:52Speaker 03

  So buying costs as much as a DVD would cost.

• 44:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, 25 bucks.

• 44:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:56Speaker 02

  And then you all you rent for the six bucks.

• 44:58Speaker 03

  So do you buy Law and Order or do you rent?

• 45:00Speaker 02

  Buy.

• 45:00Speaker 03

  You buy?

• 45:01Speaker 02

  You buy. You can't rent them. You can't rent Law and Order. It only has a buy. And you can buy the season or buy per episode. It doesn't, it's not, you buy the season for a cost, for the cost analysis of that.

• 45:15Speaker 03

  Lucky boy.

• 45:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, just.

• 45:16Speaker 03

  So you could, you could now rent those. Can you rent those out now?

• 45:19Speaker 02

  I should, I should on rent them.

• 45:23Speaker 02

  For 72 hours.

• 45:25Speaker 03

  Oh, that's generous. Very generous.