Sandra Bullock

Sandra Bullock spoke the perfect amount on this podcast. Amy hangs with the actress and star of 'Practical Magic 2' and talks about her favorite German word, working with Señor Cloones, and how she takes her protein. Host: Amy PoehlerGuests: Maisie Williams, Joey King, and Sandra BullockExecutive producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-BermanFor Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, and supervising producer Joel LovellFor The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson, Aleya Zenieris, and Chris Wholers; audio producer Kaya McMullen; social producer Bridget Geerlings; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and bookers Kat Spillane and Paige GarbariniOriginal music: Amy Miles Visit uber.com/safety to learn more. Switch today at https://www. Visible.com for just 25/mo. Or get premium Visible+ pro plan and save $10 on your first month with code HANG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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  Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. Boy, we are excited about our guest today. She's a gigantic movie star and an incredible talent. And it's the one, the only Sandra Bullock. Sandra Bullock is here today and we talk about so many things. We're going to get into it. We're going to talk about her love of physical comedy. We're going to find out her favorite German word and I'm going to try to guess what it means. We're going to talk about what a nightmare it is to stand next to Nicole Kidman on a red carpet. And we are going to talk about her new movie, Practical Magic 2, out this week. It is great. Check it out. She is incredible. We are lucky to have her. And we always do this at the beginning of our episodes. We talk well behind our guests' back and we find somebody who knows our guests and wants to give me a question to ask them.

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  So we are joined today by two of her co-stars from Practical Magic, who play her daughters in the film and create incredibly talented actresses in their own right, Joey King and Maisy Williams. Hello, ladies.

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  OMG, look at who I'm getting to talk to. Double trouble right over here.

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  Wait, someone's ringing your door. Wait, take us with you. Who is it?

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  My husband's answering. You know what I think? I think it's part of his anniversary present I got him just arrived right at this moment.

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  Oh, my gosh, what did you get him? Tell us, we won't tell anyone.

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  I got, because it's our three-year wedding anniversary. He's right over there. You're going to hear what I got. It's fine, just go in the other room.

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  Three years of leather, so I got him a really nice leather carry-on.

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  And someone's delivering it to the house? That's fancy.

• 3:02Speaker 01

  Well, I got it shipped.

• 3:04Speaker 00

  Okay, okay. So it's just, it's someone who shipped it. Okay, got it.

• 3:08Speaker 01

  I bought it online.

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  I thought it was like a white glove service where like a butler is delivering a leather case.

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  I want my bag to have a butler.

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  Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry if we ruined the surprise, but that was exciting. We get excited when somebody rings. I mean, who?

• 3:24Speaker 01

  I'm sorry, someone rang the doorbell.

• 3:25Speaker 00

  But who rings a doorbell anymore? Like, there's no, like, we had this happen on the show when we were with Rachel Dratch. Yes.

• 3:34Speaker 02

  Amy, we know, girl. We've seen it.

• 3:39Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, the best. That clip comes up on my feed all the time and I watch it. Just, I watch it full through every time I see it.

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  Joey King, Maisie Williams, I just want to say, I love and have watched everything you guys have done. When I saw that you were in Practical Magic 2, when I saw that you were the daughters in the film, I was like, okay. Okay, we're going heavy hitter here. We've got a four-top, a real heavy four-top with Nicole and Sandy and you two. I'm like, incredible.

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  Oh, my God.

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  Also, you're crushing it on TikTok.

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  We love making TikToks.

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  We really do.

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  TikToks are so good.

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  Oh, my God, it makes me so like, I feel, I'm like blushing that you watch them.

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  Now, Joey, you've been, you've been on TikTok for a minute.

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  Me? Yeah, I've been, I've been there from the beginning.

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  Been there a while.

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  You were there before COVID, I believe, which is...

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  The birth. My sister got me on TikTok. I remember to promote one of the kissing booth movies. She was like, you've got to get on TikTok and start dancing. And I was like, you're right, Silver. Whatever you say.

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  Yep, and now here we are. I feel like I've been watching you guys depress for this movie. And it's been very cool to watch not only, like I've said, very talented women get to do something very special together, but it does feel like you have all really enjoyed working together.

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  Yeah, it was so much fun. It was, it's kind of crazy. It was a year ago to the date that we finished, I think. Right, Joey?

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  You're right.

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  Yeah, it was so, we spent the whole summer together. It was beautiful. And then doing all this press together has just been like such a dream. Just a lot of giggling, actually. Yeah.

• 5:24Speaker 01

  So much, so much giggling. Maisy's like my favorite woman ever. So this has just been like the greatest joy to make such a close friend through this film. That's all about sisterhood. Every time, you know, they always are like, what spell would you cast in press? If you had cast one spell, my answer every time was like, I just want Maisy to live closer to me.

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  That would be so nice, living in LA.

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  We were literally in the waiting room to come on here and we're just like texting. Like, we just can't stop. We can't stop communicating.

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  Maisy, play your cards right and a leather briefcase will be hand-delivered to your door in just a few years. Okay, so we're talking, I am talking to Sandra Bullock today, whom I really don't think I have met.

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  Okay.

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  Yeah, I mean, I am of the age where I, we may have met and, and I forget, but I don't think so. We've never really properly met. What was your first experience meeting Sandy? And what do you love about working with her? And should I call her Sandy right away?

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  I feel like, yes. You should just rock straight in with Sandy.

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  Okay.

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  I feel like she'd love it. And she always introduces herself that way. I met her, she immediately offered me some Haribo, I think, which just like broke the ice, which was lovely. And it was at the read through.

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  Just to be clear, that's a gummy bear.

• 6:46Speaker 02

  Yes, a gummy bear. Got it.

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  Right.

• 6:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, important to make that distinction.

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  Yes.

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  Yep.

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  And she texts us immediately, it's your mother here. Like, how she gives that.

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  Mother. Mother.

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  It's your mother.

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  It's your mother.

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  And she just like, ever since, has just been like a mother to us on set. It's been so special. We went for a little sleepover at her house. It was cool.

• 7:19Speaker 00

  Wait, tell, say more about that. What do you mean? Before you started shooting, you did?

• 7:23Speaker 02

  No, it was like after a night shoot, after the night, after a night shoot, we went there. We had a little cocktails at like 6 o'clock in the morning. And then stayed over in her little cottage. And then the next day, we got to go in the hot tub. We raided her fridge and ate all of her food. She had to go to work. She left us in the house. And then we just like ate and sat on the sofa, watched like YouTube. It was nice.

• 7:49Speaker 01

  It was so nice. It was, I mean, she's just the best. She's such a nurturing spirit. She's like, she's one of those people who, you know, she says that she'll always be there for you and she's like, really means it. Like, she'll answer the call anytime, any day. I've texted her in distress before being like, I need your advice on something. And she's like, calling now. And so, and that's just such a, she's such a, she's such a, like a girl's girl. And also just like, I don't know, she's just, I'm so amazed by her and her and everything she's been through. And she handles herself with so much grace and elegance. And I just, and she's, she's just so hot, too.

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  I know. She's so hot.

• 8:31Speaker 01

  She's so hot.

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  It's a lot, like, it's a lot, it's hard to ask somebody like, why are you so hot?

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  I think you have to.

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  That'll be my first question.

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  Why are you so hot?

• 8:41Speaker 00

  Why are you so hot? No, but she has this thing, I mean, we've been like, you know, we get ready for our guests and we're like reviewing their body of work. And her body of work is so diverse. It's incredible. She has been in a space movie that's made gazillion dollars. She has done like really deep, intense drama. She's done horror. She's done incredible physical comedy. She's been, done hugely successful romantic comedies. She's done, she can do it all. How does she like to work? And what was it like working with her in this film?

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  I mean, I love watching her. She, she's almost like tinkering, like especially if it's like a physical comedy scene. Like, she's really building it. She'll get to set early, like she'll rehearse on her own. She'll like block with supporting artists and like she'll build it and build it and build it. In each take, she like adds something more. But it's like she's constantly finessing one idea. And it's like so amazing to watch. And it's like really nice to watch someone doing something that seems so off the cuff and so natural. But they're like, and they've thought about it a lot and they know what props they want to have. And they, and like, I just, I liked to see that on set. Like, it was a peek behind the curtain, because everything she does is so funny.

• 9:58Speaker 02

  And it seems so natural and seems just so in the moment. But like, it takes a lot of work for her to do something that she's like really happy with. And we got to watch that time and time and time again on this movie.

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  She's also just a really great, generous actor, too. Like, there was just some stuff where we had, where it was like really emotional for either me or Nicole. And like the way that she would support us when it was like our turn to have like a, like a really tough moment or a big moment was so just beautiful. And it's like inspiring and, and so special because she, she takes her job so seriously. And she also takes making sure others experience a good job too so seriously.

• 10:41Speaker 00

  I ask the, the people that I get, have the pleasure to Zoom with, if they have a question for my guest. And I was curious if you think there's anything I should ask her today on your behalf?

• 10:55Speaker 02

  I think she's got such, like, there's such a lack of vanity to the way that she approaches physical comedy.

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  And I think it's really, like, I, I get very self-conscious on set. And I know that there are times in her life where she feels self-conscious, but it's never in front of the camera. It always seems like it's never in front of the camera. And I just, like, has that always been just instinctive? Or is that something that she's like? Crafted, like if she's feeling self-conscious, how does she get out of it? Like, I just really, I really wanna know how she battled that.

• 11:32Speaker 03

  I love that question, Maisie. I think that's such a good question.

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  Okay, and what's yours, Joey?

• 11:36Speaker 03

  My question for Sandra is, I wanna know when the last time she just quietly thought to herself, "Does it get any better than this?" Like, what's the last moment she had that was so, "Does it get any better than this?"

• 11:50Speaker 00

  Oh, that's such a beautiful question, and it's gonna also

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  help her get back to that moment. That's a really generous question.

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  I'm excited to watch the episode, cuz I'm excited to like, see where she goes mentally with where she arrives. I think that'll be special.

• 12:08Speaker 00

  Oh, that's a great question. You guys are so smart and talented. And the future, you're the future. So, we're in really good hands.

• 12:18Speaker 03

  And I've always said that.

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  And we all know that the future looks incredible, and there's nothing to worry about.

• 12:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, literally, it's perfect.

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  He's perfect in our hands. Come on.

• 12:31Speaker 00

  Well, thank you so much for your time. I know she'll be thrilled that I talked to you both, and I bet she's got the warmest things to say right back to you. So, um, thank you guys so much for doing this.

• 12:41Speaker 03

  We love you, Amy. Thank you for having us.

• 12:44Speaker 02

  Thank you so much for having us.

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  Thank you so much. Such a pleasure to meet you both. Hope to get you in the stewed.

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  Yes.

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  Give me with love.

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  Great. Me too. Okay. Bye.

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  Bye.

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  Sandra Bullock is here. We looked at the fake food.

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  Yes, we did.

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  I'm very, very excited. Thank you for by. I know you're in the middle of a lot of talking.

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  I am, I'm super excited because I'm excited to be in the company of your brain. Truly.

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  Same. And your sweater says shenanigans.

• 14:08Speaker 03

  It's from the film. It's something Aunt Jet says.

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  And let's start there.

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  Okay.

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  Because when I was thinking about how to start this interview, which I've been very excited for, we were just talking about the fact that you really can do so many things well, and how tiring it must be to be good at so many things.

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  You know it is.

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  You're like, you're a physical comedian, you're an incredibly successful producer. You can do really deep, meaningful things, big and small. You've been in huge hits, you've been in small-

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  In stinkers.

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  You've been in huge hits, you've been in things people don't choose to see.

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  Don't like, yeah, yeah.

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  And you've withstood that.

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  Yes. Did I?

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  But you are, to me, you have what Lucille Ball has, you have what Carol Burnett has, you have like a physicality, you have timing. What did you guys laugh at in your family when you were little? Because you have, you have really interesting, creative parents.

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  Really interesting parents, had. They're dead. So, they're up here.

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  Yes.

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  My mother was German.

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  Right.

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  So, right there.

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  What is she laughing at?

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  Not funny.

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  Really did not have a sense of humor. Which actually makes you want to challenge that on a daily basis.

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  Yeah.

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  My father was from Birmingham, Alabama. English, Irish, French, you know, like storyteller from the South. So, he had a rhythm of his own. But I really think I got it from trying to break my mother.

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  And make her laugh.

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  She was trying to break me. Yeah, by making her laugh, and it was always when I hurt myself, when I fell. So, which kinda goes hand in hand with the Germans.

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  She would laugh hard when you fell.

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  She would laugh so hard, and I went, my mother didn't laugh a lot. So, to get joy out of her was everything. My dad, I had, I had in the pocket. But my mother really was someone that I knew wanted to laugh and needed it. But when I finally found it, it was like, it was my little ace in the pocket. She, she, she was a tough audience.

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  Was there any American stuff that she laughed at, that she liked when you were younger? Do you remember her laughing at anything, or liking any pop culture, American TV?

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  We didn't really have a lot of TV in the house. Like, we didn't have magazines when I lived overseas. We watched foreign films, and you know, I would always gravitate to the ones that had a physicality, so you could understand it.

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  But no, my mother was an artist. She was an opera singer, and it was very serious.

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  I'm incredibly intrigued by this.

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  She was extraordinary. And I notice that now more than ever, being a mom and seeing her practice her craft, which was incredibly annoying to me.

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  Yeah, of course.

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  It was annoying. It was loud.

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  Yeah.

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  And it was in the basement of our house. And it would permeate the whole neighborhood as we're playing like kickball outside. You hear her vocalizing, and you're just like-

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  You have very good posture.

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  I'm trying.

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  Did she have really good posture?

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  Yes.

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  Yeah. And she had breath control and all that stuff?

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  All of it, from the diaphragm. She was, so she was, she practiced a high art. So did my father.

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  Yeah.

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  But he just had that southern thing that was more relaxed, but also to control the room and put the remedies. She had no desire to put the remedies.

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  Credible.

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  None whatsoever.

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  I'm always fascinated by the people that can stay quiet and that don't feel the need to change the temperature in the room. It's fascinating to me. It's like such a power move.

• 17:47Speaker 03

  It is. It's funny that you bring that up, because today I had that very conversation with my sister. I was like, I am so tired of hearing myself talk.

• 17:57Speaker 00

  Oh, babe.

• 17:58Speaker 03

  And she goes, I'm like, and it's also the press junket. I feel like I'm here to just share and do whatever. But she says, you know, it's also your undiagnosed ADHD and your trauma response. I went, okay.

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  You're like, wow, you've read for Phil. Thank you so much. But if this ever happened to you, where you're on a conference call, and you're accidentally on mute, and you're talking, but you're on mute, and then you get off mute, and you realize like, I've actually just been the most powerful I've ever been by not talking? By pausing for more than 10 seconds? But I never do that. I have to work at it. Okay, we were talking about, we were talking about your German mom, but we're talking about opera. I, your relationship to music is really interesting to me. I've learned that about knowing you. Not only like, you know, as a producer, you're picking music for the projects you make. There's really good needle drops that are in films that you make because of you. But you sang opera.

• 18:54Speaker 03

  No, I did not.

• 18:56Speaker 00

  Oh, you did? Are you a singer?

• 18:58Speaker 03

  Not even close.

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  Okay.

• 19:00Speaker 03

  Not even, no, I'm not one of those who says, oh, I can't sing, and then I'll be in like the car, and I'll belt something out, and they're like, you've got a great voice.

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  Okay, you know you don't have a good voice.

• 19:09Speaker 03

  I, I should not be singing. But what I have is great rhythm.

• 19:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, I see that. Timing. So, but you sang with your parents. Were you not in operas?

• 19:20Speaker 03

  Yes, I was in the back. I was in, I was in the background. There's always like some filthy child stealing money and coins off the floor. That was me.

• 19:29Speaker 00

  And so, do you feel, did your mom want you to be a singer? Did she ever want you? No, she knew.

• 19:34Speaker 03

  Look, there could only be, she knew. There was only one her. And she was, she was of the highest order of talent. She just, she was the one. I was the jokester. I found my way to sort of level the vibe anywhere was through that. So, she knew, of course, at some point, I would be that. I was in theater, and I did things like that. I didn't even attempt to sing.

• 19:58Speaker 00

  I am going to my first opera very soon. I've never been.

• 20:01Speaker 03

  Which one are you going to?

• 20:02Speaker 00

  George Saunders. They're doing an opera based on his book Lincoln in the Bardo at the Met.

• 20:06Speaker 03

  Really?

• 20:07Speaker 00

  And I'm thrilled. But my question for you is, what, like, what should I prepare for? Because I'm assuming you've been to many?

• 20:17Speaker 03

  Yes, and it's amazing how, no matter what the language, when it's good, you understand it all. And it's, it's the profundity of the performances and the set deck, and it's grand. It's always grand.

• 20:33Speaker 03

  And I remember as a kid, I would be in the back of the car, and my mother would always test me. Like, she would play something. She goes, what does that make you feel? And I would, I would lean in. I would say, this feels like someone's losing someone, or they're looking for someone who's dead. You know, like, you could feel it when it's good. When it's bad, it's bad.

• 20:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:50Speaker 03

  I think at the Met, you're probably gonna be just fine, and it's gonna be amazing. I think you're gonna be okay.

• 20:56Speaker 00

  What a cool thing for your mom to do, to test you on what are you feeling when you hear this.

• 21:01Speaker 03

  I mean, we would go to Italy for the operas, just sit on the stone steps and with our little ice cream, and just watch the animals come on stage, and you know, it was, it was just beautiful. It was really beautiful.

• 21:12Speaker 00

  And speaking of German, what, can you tell me your favorite German word, and I'm gonna try to guess what it means?

• 21:18Speaker 03

  It's, it's, "Muschauskopf."

• 21:20Speaker 00

  Say again, please?

• 21:22Speaker 03

  "Muschauskopf."

• 21:23Speaker 00

  "Muschauskopf." I'm gonna say that is the feeling that you get.

• 21:30Speaker 03

  When you win an argument.

• 21:34Speaker 03

  You're very close because the word would probably be used in the argument is you right before the mic drop moment.

• 21:43Speaker 00

  Oh, my God, chills. I speak German now.

• 21:47Speaker 03

  Do you want to know what it means?

• 21:48Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. What does it mean? Sorry.

• 21:50Speaker 03

  Means shithead. It's what my mother would teach. All the boyfriends were like, would you like me to teach you some shaman? And they were like, yes, Ms. Belk, I really would. And then she'd give them, you know, shithead. So she, maybe she did have a tiny sense of humor.

• 22:04Speaker 00

  That sounds pretty funny.

• 22:05Speaker 03

  Lydia does sound pretty funny.

• 22:06Speaker 00

  That sounds pretty funny. She sounds like a trickster.

• 22:08Speaker 03

  She, you know what? She is.

• 22:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:10Speaker 03

  She just didn't know it at the time.

• 22:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:13Speaker 03

  It came to her later on.

• 22:15Speaker 00

  Well, I mean, I, you, everybody needs a straight man. And it feels like your mom provided that.

• 22:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:20Speaker 00

  The, well, you know, there's a million journeys to get to being on screen and like, you know, you, you're performing, you're acting, you move to New York, you study at Meisner.

• 22:32Speaker 03

  Well, I studied in college, the teacher that came to the.

• 22:35Speaker 00

  What college were you at then?

• 22:37Speaker 03

  East Carolina University, only because my best friend in high school had an application. My dad really wanted me to go to a school of the arts, the top 10. I was not getting into any of them. I auditioned for one, but it's very unfortunate.

• 22:49Speaker 00

  Do you remember what you auditioned with?

• 22:50Speaker 03

  I don't recall. It's that traumatic.

• 22:52Speaker 00

  That's good.

• 22:53Speaker 03

  I remember the smell of the room. The smell of fear.

• 22:58Speaker 00

  I remember the flop sweat.

• 22:59Speaker 03

  Oh, it was, it was this austere white room. It was like, I'm not supposed to be here. I'm not, I wasn't, I was pretty oddly shy as a kid because we traveled back and forth. And I had a lisp and my lisp still kind of comes out when I'm like on this press tour, my lisp has come out.

• 23:15Speaker 00

  When you're tired or talking to your family or something.

• 23:18Speaker 03

  And I didn't really notice I had one until a few years ago. I was working my coaster. I was like, you have a lisp. But I was like, her.

• 23:24Speaker 00

  You were like, stop paying attention.

• 23:26Speaker 03

  Stop and tell, why are you looking at my mouth?

• 23:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, worry about yourself.

• 23:29Speaker 03

  But I didn't, I wasn't baked. I wasn't mature enough. I was very sheltered. So I could never have made it in any of those environments. I did not have the confidence.

• 23:39Speaker 00

  Did you like studying all, like that Meisner technique?

• 23:42Speaker 03

  Very much.

• 23:43Speaker 00

  So for people who don't know what Meisner technique is, it's kind of cool. What, how would you explain it?

• 23:47Speaker 03

  Premises being truthful in imaginary circumstances. So I, I wasn't comfortable when they would say, lay on the floor and you're going to fry like bacon. And I was like, I'll never be cast as that. This will never, it felt artificial to me. It didn't, but Meisner, they give you a piece, started off with, you know, these soliloquies in a book. You had to go and do an emotional preparation as if going, okay, this never happened to you, but prepare as closely as you can to the emotion and the feeling of getting to this, what would make you feel like this? And it gave you a tool outside of yourself that made sense, at least for me, made sense to hang on and also listening.

• 24:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:27Speaker 03

  Which we're probably not very good at. Because we like, we like to, you know.

• 24:32Speaker 00

  You know what? I'm good at it.

• 24:34Speaker 03

  You are?

• 24:35Speaker 00

  And so are you. I've seen it. Active listening, you're very good at it.

• 24:38Speaker 03

  It's, it's learned. It's, it, it, but not always, not always.

• 24:43Speaker 00

  But can't you tell very quickly when you're with someone who's not listening? And there's like, there's no lonelier feeling.

• 24:49Speaker 03

  Sure, yeah.

• 24:50Speaker 00

  When you can tell when you're talking and you can tell that someone's dead behind the eyes.

• 24:55Speaker 03

  It kind of makes me sad.

• 24:56Speaker 00

  It makes me sad too.

• 24:57Speaker 03

  It makes me really sad.

• 24:58Speaker 00

  And I, maybe it's, maybe it's a little codependency. Maybe it's like a little bit of making sure I'm staying connected. But I, I, I think I, I think you can still be a good listener while you're talking.

• 25:08Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 25:09Speaker 00

  Or while, if you're, if you consider yourself a talker.

• 25:11Speaker 03

  Yes, and if you've done enough therapy too. You've learned that, you know, it requires you to just stop.

• 25:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:18Speaker 03

  And that, all of that, it's, it's all of that together in a pile. And I got very lucky that this teacher came in to teach the Meisner technique.

• 25:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:27Speaker 03

  It was always the girls in class who could cry on the spot. And I'm like, oh, they're such brilliant actors. She can cry, you know? Never could get there.

• 25:34Speaker 00

  No, tears.

• 25:36Speaker 03

  No, I can't. Unless I feel it. What, you don't like the tears?

• 25:40Speaker 00

  I, I have a whole thing about tears.

• 25:42Speaker 03

  Explain.

• 25:43Speaker 00

  Well, I think that tears, to your point, are very effective. But people, just like being flexible, people can sometimes are just good at tears. Like they were just born being good at tears.

• 25:56Speaker 03

  And keeping them like perched right there. And then it just, when I cry, it's the square mouth. It's like things tilt, it implodes and it's, there's nothing cinematic about it.

• 26:06Speaker 00

  I heard that Elizabeth Moss, I don't know if this is true, Elizabeth write in, call in, that she can pick what eye she's going to cry out of.

• 26:13Speaker 03

  Stop.

• 26:14Speaker 00

  That's what I heard. Isn't that, isn't that incredible rumor?

• 26:17Speaker 03

  We need to know how this is done.

• 26:19Speaker 00

  Lizzy Callas, because she's so good at crying. The people that are able to go blink and drop a tear.

• 26:26Speaker 03

  I'm, I'm sort of like, I'm having a little FOMO like right now. I wish I had.

• 26:30Speaker 00

  But I think it's like being able to touch your toes or something, like either have it or you don't.

• 26:34Speaker 03

  I could do that. But no one wants to see it on film.

• 26:35Speaker 00

  Not all of us can, Sandy.

• 26:37Speaker 03

  Well, have you been practicing? It requires.

• 26:40Speaker 00

  I know. I tried to touch my toes with John Cena when he was in here and he was.

• 26:44Speaker 03

  Did you know?

• 26:46Speaker 00

  That's not a euphemism.

• 26:49Speaker 00

  How dare you? And he touched his toes so well.

• 26:53Speaker 03

  He touched his toes?

• 26:54Speaker 00

  Pumps to the floor.

• 26:55Speaker 03

  I can see that.

• 26:57Speaker 00

  Are you that flexible? Can you do that? Damn it.

• 27:01Speaker 03

  But I practice. I, I practice. I practice.

• 27:06Speaker 00

  Okay, speed. Okay. So then you auditioned.

• 27:08Speaker 03

  Then you auditioned for Speed.

• 27:10Speaker 00

  No.

• 27:11Speaker 03

  Where I had to be flexible.

• 27:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, you probably did have to be flexible in Speed. You've talked about this before, but I'm really, those early days, like walking into rooms, trying things, like you were saying, not being fully cooked, but feeling excited about stuff, knowing that you had the passion, but maybe not the experience yet, but going for it, those swings. Feels like really paid off with Speed. You were able to like meet the moment of that movie.

• 27:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:35Speaker 00

  With the enthusiasm that that character needed. And that audition process, I've read about, read about it and read about you talking about it, but it sounds really funny and fun.

• 27:44Speaker 03

  It's in, in, in retrospect.

• 27:47Speaker 00

  Right.

• 27:47Speaker 03

  But what was it like? Again, like the audition for the school I didn't get into.

• 27:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:51Speaker 03

  There's lots of shit thing. And just you're outside of your body. And I think from New York, I was, I was a waitress. Every Thursday I got the Backstage magazine. I pounded the pavement. You went to your little auditions with your, your headshot and you just, you just had to do it. So I was comfortable just doing it.

• 28:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. Did you have to pretend you were on a bus when you were auditioning?

• 28:13Speaker 03

  I was on a folding chair and they gave me a paper plate.

• 28:17Speaker 00

  I think, I have to say, you know, we talk about acting a lot on this because I talk to a lot of actors. I think everybody should have to do that once to feel like, you know, you think in life, like I've felt what it's like to be humiliated. And you're like, hmm, not quite yet.

• 28:32Speaker 03

  And then they bring in Keanu Reeves, like when they end the call back and you're just like, am I still on the chair with the paper plate? Yes. Still the plate? Okay. Okay.

• 28:42Speaker 03

  Dissociate and.

• 28:47Speaker 00

  Did you do a little old fashioned roll down?

• 28:48Speaker 03

  And then I rolled down the window.

• 28:52Speaker 03

  Then back there, because the bus has all these levers here.

• 28:55Speaker 00

  You're just a mirror.

• 28:56Speaker 03

  The hydraulics.

• 28:57Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 28:57Speaker 03

  There's all kinds of stuff going on that I was like, you know.

• 29:00Speaker 00

  Checking the glove compartment.

• 29:02Speaker 03

  There's no glove compartment on a bus. I mean, I don't know. Is there?

• 29:06Speaker 00

  Maybe there's an air freshener. There's a million bits you can do.

• 29:09Speaker 03

  Not in this bus. Air freshener.

• 29:11Speaker 00

  That movie is so huge. It's huge for you, you and Keanu, lifelong friends. You create this incredible chemistry together.

• 29:19Speaker 03

  We didn't create it, it just shows up.

• 29:21Speaker 00

  It shows up. You're right. And you have chemistry with so, you are really, really good.

• 29:26Speaker 03

  I'm like a skunk. I kind of just spray it.

• 29:29Speaker 00

  And you're like, it's ready.

• 29:31Speaker 03

  Whoever's in the light of fire.

• 29:34Speaker 00

  Whatever dogs are in the neighborhood, start coming in.

• 29:38Speaker 03

  That's what people don't realize. You have to like.

• 29:40Speaker 00

  I agree. You got to, you got to turn the channel. You got to, but what, what, but talk about chemistry for a second because people love to talk about it. But what, like, what, what, what was it about you and Keanu that like immediately you just felt?

• 29:52Speaker 03

  I think with us, we're so different. We're so, he is very reserved and zen. And as we were saying earlier, give us a silent room and you can watch us spin out. So anytime he's silent, I'm like the whirling dervish around his silence. And he's just waiting for me to wear myself out. He's just patiently waiting. And then he often doesn't respond to what I say, you know, and then until like maybe a day later when he's thought about it. So it's, it's someone to learn from in terms of what you and I need to work on.

• 30:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. The tortoise and the hare kind of thing. Yeah. But you've worked with really, really different leading men.

• 30:32Speaker 03

  And they all have. They they are good at playing.

• 30:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:37Speaker 03

  They're they're just like, they're there to volley back. And I think because I am not the femme fatale. I am, I am the the tomboy. I am the one that'll get in there with the guys and, you know, I think that's why it works for me, because I love being poked. I love being, you know, just be the needle and just trying to get at me because that's a spark for me, rather than the real sweet stuff, which I just go, it's uninteresting to me. It's goes back to timing and women who have that, and I'm just, I can watch you all day long, but your respect and support of your opponent, because it is like a match.

• 31:13Speaker 00

  It is, and it's a little bit, a tiny bit competitive in a fun way.

• 31:17Speaker 03

  In a fun way, but it's also, I see you have so much respect for the person opposite you. I feel it. I feel it in you. You wait, like even in the bloopers and the outtakes, I see you giving the person grace enough. You're like, am I gonna step in on this one? I'm gonna step in on this one. I see it, and it's a rhythm that just it, you feel it here. I feel it here.

• 31:38Speaker 00

  And don't you feel, I feel like people have music, like they just have a rhythm, and to figure out how to make it work, because you have to just kind of get into their song.

• 31:46Speaker 03

  Totally. Yeah, yeah.

• 31:47Speaker 00

  And then I think the reason why people like actors or performers or writers or whatever is they just like, like their music. They like their song.

• 31:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's like when someone says you have good taste, that means you have the taste that I have. You know what I mean? It's like, you have nice taste. This is what I would do, you know?

• 32:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's so true. Gravity. I want to ask you questions about Gravity. I mean, well.

• 32:08Speaker 03

  Love talking about.

• 32:09Speaker 00

  Oh, my God. I have, I have so many.

• 32:11Speaker 03

  Ask away, because I don't think it, it, yeah, go ahead.

• 32:14Speaker 00

  Well, you were, before we get to Gravity, you know, you won for The Blind Side, Oscar. You've been nominated many times. How many?

• 32:22Speaker 03

  No, I've been nominated, I'm nominated twice and won once.

• 32:25Speaker 00

  Okay, well, that's more than once.

• 32:26Speaker 03

  It's like a fifty, fifty, I have fifty percent, right?

• 32:29Speaker 00

  Thirty percent, okay. Several. You've been nominated several times. And you won an Oscar and a Razzie in the same weekend. Incredible.

• 32:38Speaker 03

  Balance, balance.

• 32:39Speaker 00

  Incredible.

• 32:40Speaker 03

  And I came and took the Razzie back because I went home with it and they were like, you can't have this. I was like, yes, I can.

• 32:45Speaker 00

  They're like, we only have one.

• 32:46Speaker 03

  We only have one.

• 32:48Speaker 00

  We had Dakota Johnson on here. Dakota Johnson told a really nice story about a voicemail that she got from you.

• 32:54Speaker 03

  She's one of the, she's one of us.

• 32:56Speaker 00

  What did you, what did you do when she won her Razzie?

• 32:59Speaker 03

  Called her and welcomed her to the club.

• 33:02Speaker 00

  What did you win your Razzie for?

• 33:04Speaker 03

  Um, All About Steve, a film I did with Bradley Cooper.

• 33:07Speaker 00

  And we never heard from him again.

• 33:09Speaker 03

  Yes, exactly. He just, he just.

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• 36:16Speaker 00

  But a movie like Gravity, I'm just gonna put it out there, is a really big, deep, lots of, it is you by yourself, camera on your face movie. So what was it like to shoot mostly and often by yourself? What did it feel like?

• 36:33Speaker 03

  Um, there was so much technology and like, in, in, in, within the box. I was literally within the box if I wasn't on the wires, and if I wasn't with George. It was music. It was, the only relationship I had was to our sound mixer and Alfonso, because the whole stage was black. And, and so I had earwigs in. And so I said to the, the sound guy, I said, look, there are these, because it was all rhythmic. My body had to be very slow, like Martha Graham, and I kept looking at a dance teacher that I had at ECU, who came from Alvin Ailey, and taught me how to not throw my body around. He goes, you gotta stop throwing your body around, as he'd throw me up against the wall. And I'd be like, me, I'm coming back.

• 37:18Speaker 03

  But I learned how to disconnect the head from the body, because the head could speak at normal speed, and the body had to move like that. You know, everything had to be what it would be in Gravity. As I was looking at a dot, that's George, that's a Soyez, that's, and the sound mixer had, we chose selections of sounds and music and songs and vibes that, like you said, you start vibing with a project. I was like, this song reminds me of this right here. This makes me feel this moment. You know, what makes me feel in absolute silence? What, you know, what, so I would say, I'm not getting there. I play two, seven, and five, and then I'll get to. And he just was my life mixer. He would mix it and just get me to.

• 38:03Speaker 00

  Is there any music that you'd be willing to share that you listen to that?

• 38:07Speaker 03

  I don't even remember, but I just remember at the end, he gave me this tiny little, you know, what's it called, like?

• 38:13Speaker 00

  Zip drive or something?

• 38:15Speaker 03

  Tiny little thing with like a hole where he'd plug in, you know, and he just handed it to me. And I was like, that's my performance.

• 38:21Speaker 00

  Wow, that's so cool.

• 38:23Speaker 03

  So it tapped into my body, because my body had to do these strange zero G things.

• 38:28Speaker 00

  So you were just faking the whole time?

• 38:29Speaker 03

  Everything was faking, like everything, George and I were in the, the pod, and Alfonso was giving us notes. And he said, does anyone want a water? And I said, I do. And they handed it to me, and I grabbed it. And George goes, you know what you just did, didn't you? And I said, no, I have an idea. He goes, you were like this.

• 38:44Speaker 03

  Everything was very slow. And I was kept talking to Alfonso, and I grabbed the water. But my body was so used to having.

• 38:50Speaker 00

  That must have somatically been really cool, like it must have been peaceful.

• 38:54Speaker 03

  It was very peaceful. Yeah.

• 38:56Speaker 00

  Well, it was a humongous hit. Congrats.

• 38:58Speaker 03

  Didn't do bad. Yeah.

• 38:59Speaker 00

  And you had just adopted your son, right?

• 39:01Speaker 03

  I had Lubert, yes, Lubert. We called him Lubertie Jones. That was his name on the, because he was just, I had dressed him in these cute little English vests, and he had these little hats.

• 39:09Speaker 00

  He was so cute, his baby ever.

• 39:10Speaker 03

  I mean, still cute, but that was super cute.

• 39:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:13Speaker 03

  It was just, it was an amazing experience, because for Alfonso and his son, and they wrote it together, it was about his sort of feeling lost, having an existential moment in life of despair. And how do you show that? In space, you go to space.

• 39:30Speaker 00

  It was, it's such an incredible movie, beautiful movie. And your performance is incredible.

• 39:34Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 39:34Speaker 00

  And George, too.

• 39:36Speaker 03

  I mean, it's, it's all just exactly where it needs to be.

• 39:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, and, and it, like, space, films about space, I kind, I'll kind of watch any time. But the feeling of, like, I don't want to go to space, I guess is what I'm saying.

• 39:52Speaker 03

  Nor do I.

• 39:52Speaker 00

  Okay, good. Let's not go.

• 39:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:54Speaker 00

  And what was it like working with Cloone?

• 39:56Speaker 03

  You know what? I've known Cloone since before he got.

• 39:59Speaker 00

  Is that how he, what he likes to be called?

• 40:00Speaker 03

  Señor Cloone. He like, he prefers. Amal, Amal calls him that now.

• 40:04Speaker 00

  He insists.

• 40:05Speaker 03

  Señor.

• 40:07Speaker 00

  When did you guys first work?

• 40:08Speaker 03

  We'd, we'd only worked together then, but it's, we first met when he was, you know, on back porches of all their friends, drunk, doing Buddy Hackett imitations. And I like, this is before, what was that, the show he did where he was a doctor, you know, ER, that thing? Yeah, it's before he got that.

• 40:24Speaker 00

  The other ER.

• 40:25Speaker 03

  The other ER, but it's where he was doing all the, he was like George of the Pilots before he became.

• 40:29Speaker 00

  Wait, did you just say, what is the show where he was the doctor?

• 40:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, you know, the doctor show.

• 40:34Speaker 00

  My God, ER.

• 40:35Speaker 03

  I know, I said ER. You, you have it on there.

• 40:37Speaker 00

  I've watched ER three ti, you know, I've watched the entirety of ER three times. The last time was during COVID.

• 40:44Speaker 03

  Well, it's worth it. Everyone is stellar.

• 40:48Speaker 00

  It's so good.

• 40:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're just, it's, yeah. So George is a player. He will play, and he will bat things back and forth, and he is, he's fun. George is fun.

• 41:00Speaker 00

  Because we're great together.

• 41:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:02Speaker 00

  Really great together. I mean.

• 41:03Speaker 03

  We're good in space together. I don't know how we'll do on land, but on space, we're amazing.

• 41:06Speaker 00

  In space.

• 41:07Speaker 03

  In space, we're great.

• 41:09Speaker 03

  There's no one out there that can compete with.

• 41:11Speaker 00

  I only work with him in space and this one I'll only work with underwater.

• 41:14Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 41:15Speaker 00

  But now we're talking about Practical Magic, which you're doing tons of press for. First of all, and I just love, I mean, I know it's weird to talk about the press people are doing, but just watching you and Nicole talk is so nice and relaxing. You guys are such opposites in the best way. Nicole is just kind of on a different channel and in her, and like in a, and really.

• 41:39Speaker 03

  She's regal.

• 41:40Speaker 00

  She is.

• 41:41Speaker 03

  She's regal.

• 41:41Speaker 00

  And she's also very playful and so are you, but you play totally differently.

• 41:48Speaker 03

  And to see her play is really nice because you don't get to see that a lot. You know, she's on this one, because what I had to carry wasn't really sexy for a comedian, because I was like, I'm grieving.

• 41:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:00Speaker 03

  I'm having issues with my daughter.

• 42:01Speaker 00

  Right.

• 42:02Speaker 03

  I'm battling with fear and all that stuff. And then she got the fun role. And I was like, where can I find moments that are appropriate within these dire situations? And we kept with the writer, writing these fun lines for Nicole and she, she didn't want to do like, she was like, I don't, I don't want to be the comedic sidekick. I'm like, yes, you do.

• 42:22Speaker 00

  Yes, you do.

• 42:22Speaker 03

  That's what you want. Promise. And she just took to it. Like she found her, she found her rhythm.

• 42:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:30Speaker 03

  And she's really good at it.

• 42:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, the friendship you guys have is really cool to watch. I mean, it's very authentic. You, I'm, I'm, I know female friendships are very, very important to you. They've, I would imagine.

• 42:41Speaker 03

  I mean, as they are to you.

• 42:42Speaker 00

  Absolutely. What have the women in your life done and the friendships in your life done for you?

• 42:47Speaker 03

  Everything. It's like, it, it, I don't think I can quantify it because it changes with the seasons. It changes with our changes. It changes with where we are and where we're not. And you know what? They, they give me a tremendous amount of grace. They judge, like my sister will be like, she's doing that thing again. You're like, but my sister will sit there and allow that thing to pass because she knows my history. She knows where it's coming from, even though she wants to kill me. She's, she's, she's going to wait it out.

• 43:17Speaker 00

  Yeah. That's what I always say about friends is they know you really well and they like you anyway.

• 43:21Speaker 03

  Oh, yes.

• 43:23Speaker 00

  You know, it's like they really, really know you and yet they still take your call.

• 43:27Speaker 03

  Yeah. And hopefully, I mean, it's really important for me to be a good friend.

• 43:31Speaker 00

  What's your conflict style? Do you, are you a retreter?

• 43:35Speaker 03

  I'm a mixed, I'm a mixed bag. I'm a little sprinkle, but it also depends on who I'm opposite, what their style is, you know, I know, I mean, that's sort of the vernacular right now is like, I'm an avoidant, you know, whatever. I, I am probably a little bit of everything depending on who I'm opposite and how safe I feel.

• 43:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:53Speaker 03

  Because in what we do,

• 43:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:55Speaker 03

  unless it's very close relationships,

• 43:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:58Speaker 03

  you don't know who's coming to you with safety and giving you a safe place. So it just depends. But I can read people really well.

• 44:07Speaker 00

  I bet.

• 44:08Speaker 03

  And I don't always heed my own warning until like three beats later. I'm like, I knew it. But you know, I'm like, I want to give them a shot. I want to, you know, like whatever they're coming at me, maybe it's this, maybe they're having a hard day.

• 44:20Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 44:20Speaker 03

  And then three beats later, I'm like, it's what I thought it was.

• 44:23Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 44:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. That instinct of feeling something and listening to it and responding to it, like that to me is like a lifetime of work, basically. It's like our entire life is to figure out like how to shorten the distance between what we sense and what we act on.

• 44:40Speaker 03

  But don't you think that's also being a woman? Like we have, we have a more sensitive meter, I feel.

• 44:47Speaker 00

  Of course.

• 44:47Speaker 03

  We're also conditioned in this, you know, social universe that

• 44:52Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 44:52Speaker 03

  we are not to trust that.

• 44:54Speaker 00

  Well, we become experts on other people and we become really, really aware of how people are acting and changing. And to your point, we want, we're like, we're conditioned to give a lot of grace. Like that's why like someone like your mom, who's like, I'm going to be an island and you're going to have to come to me, is still really fascinating to find in a woman. Because it's still just like, whoa, she's not saying anything and she's not pleasing anybody. And she really does not care that people are projecting all this stuff on her. It's fascinating.

• 45:28Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, the way you're saying that, I'm going, I'm getting to know my mom. You know, like I, I feel like I am getting to know my mom as I become more of a mom. You know, even each day, I'm like, oh, I see why she said that. I see why.

• 45:39Speaker 00

  I mean, Practical Magic has a lot of those themes, like beautiful themes about, like you talked about history, trauma, pain, the idea of protecting the people that you love, the idea of like, what is a, like, what is a mother's burden and blessing? What does she get to do? What does she have to do? It's so great. And you're playing a witch 30 years later, almost from when you played it before. And I'm so interested in this idea in general, that as women get older, like there's something that gets very witchy about us.

• 46:09Speaker 03

  We've always had it. It is, it's the lag time, those three beats become one beat.

• 46:15Speaker 00

  Right.

• 46:15Speaker 03

  You're no longer, you know, like you're no longer waiting or second guessing yourself. You go, it just is.

• 46:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:21Speaker 03

  Because you've had enough instances in life to prove you correct. When you had that feeling. It's called mother's intuition for a really good reason, women's intuition. Like it's, we are extra sensitive to things and it's, it's both a blessing and a curse. But I think as you get older, you just don't want to waste time anymore. You know, at least I don't.

• 46:42Speaker 00

  The way you speak about the losses that you've had in your life makes people feel very seen and you're very generous about it. And it, in many ways, reminds me of this idea of like the witchiness that happens to us when we get older, that we're coming in with some pain and some, hopefully some lessons or knowledge from it or whatever. Just, and I really appreciate it as a person, listening to you share. Because I don't know, I can't explain it other than I feel safe in the way that you share. Because I feel like you're taking care of yourself, which is a big relief for me.

• 47:21Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 47:21Speaker 00

  That makes any sense.

• 47:22Speaker 03

  It does. And I, I want to take care of you. I want to take care of, you're making me teary, guys, stop.

• 47:30Speaker 03

  I really want to take care of people's souls, like or whatever, whoever the person is. I'd never want to be known as someone who violated someone's confidence, that someone gave me a piece of themselves and I was, I was careless with it.

• 47:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:46Speaker 03

  And I think sure, younger age, I was a dingbat. But because of the things that I've been able to see and feel and experience and get behind the curtain on,

• 47:58Speaker 03

  I feel like it's a secret that I don't want to share from those who deserve to benefit from my experience.

• 48:06Speaker 00

  Well, you've spoken beautifully about being a caretaker to Brian and there's a lot of caretakers listening.

• 48:10Speaker 03

  The caretaker world is absolutely underserved. I, I've been very private since I was a little kid because my mother always thought I was up to something that I wasn't. You know, I really, I'm like, why am I getting blamed for things I didn't do? I just, I'm a guilty, I just look guilty, you know? But I don't want to ever, ever, ever not be, oh God, how do I describe this? I don't, I did what I had to do in the situation I was in. I didn't want to say anything out of turn on what anyone else experienced within that situation. Because everyone is experiencing something, their own journey with that. There's so much to the story that would be of service.

• 48:51Speaker 03

  But my story, my slice of pie and me and the kids, you know, it, that's all we can speak about.

• 48:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:58Speaker 03

  You know what I mean? I'd love to say, but you know, it, it serves no purpose other than I have the information. I've met so many people whose, whose family members have been diagnosed with ALS or a neurological disorder. I'm like, this is what I know.

• 49:12Speaker 00

  What did you learn about yourself when you became a caretaker? What did you, what was a new thing that you learned about yourself?

• 49:18Speaker 03

  I am always a caretaker.

• 49:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:20Speaker 03

  Always. And I learned that I, I didn't take care of the person that was taking care of everybody else. And that was a big wake up call for me.

• 49:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:30Speaker 03

  And I'm not good at asking for help, but I needed help and I needed to ask it in a way that was safe.

• 49:41Speaker 03

  Thankfully, I had a few angels that stepped forward and was like, this is where the nurses are. This is where the, you know, what did I learn about myself? That I have an incredible sister. And she, she, in her worry for me,

• 49:57Speaker 03

  gave me like an alarm of going, if you do not start taking care of you, something's going to happen to you and what's going to happen to Lu and Li. And I was like, you know, I, and that to me, that's, you know, I learned about myself. I have an extraordinary sister, you know, that, that's the only thing that I know. I'm still developing. I mean, coming into a press tour, I was looking at the photos of the, the London premiere. And I'm like, I'm not a red carpet gal.

• 50:23Speaker 00

  Are you out of your mind?

• 50:25Speaker 03

  Okay, I'm just gonna, let me just.

• 50:27Speaker 00

  Sorry.

• 50:29Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 50:29Speaker 00

  Absolutely. That's our first fight. You look better than ever.

• 50:34Speaker 03

  Let me know when you're done.

• 50:35Speaker 00

  Your red carpet is slaying.

• 50:38Speaker 03

  Let me know when you're done.

• 50:39Speaker 00

  Okay, I'm done.

• 50:41Speaker 03

  I agree with you, the outfits slayed. It was incredible stylists that worked on this that made me feel comfortable in my body. From the neck down, I was, I was so taken care of. The person on the inside, like I said to every, I would start panicking as we would get ready to leave. And I said, you guys are working on the outside end. I'm sitting in my body. I have no idea what you guys are doing.

• 51:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:05Speaker 03

  And I was just like, and then I got on the red carpet and I was like, okay, I've got this. I'm, I'm going to pretend I, which hand should I put here? I'll work it. Like I'm not someone who's like, what's up?

• 51:16Speaker 00

  Totally. I mean.

• 51:17Speaker 03

  I'm not one of those. It's like.

• 51:18Speaker 00

  I just had this.

• 51:19Speaker 03

  It's the finger people.

• 51:20Speaker 00

  I just had this experience. I just did a photo shoot and I was like,

• 51:24Speaker 03

  Did you do this?

• 51:24Speaker 00

  I gave myself a pep talk. I'm like, Amy, you get in there and you be the person.

• 51:28Speaker 03

  Stick your finger in your mouth. Did you really say that?

• 51:32Speaker 00

  I, I was like, just be into it.

• 51:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:34Speaker 00

  I can't, it's so hard for me. I can't just be like, be like, I'm very, very sexy right now.

• 51:43Speaker 00

  And you just have to be able to like, who, me?

• 51:47Speaker 00

  You'd be like, I'm just in the middle of something.

• 51:49Speaker 03

  And then there's two fingers. When someone shoves two fingers in their mouth in a photo shoot, badass. I'm like, girl, I wish I would have the whole fist in there if I could.

• 52:00Speaker 00

  Okay, I understand. I hear what you mean.

• 52:03Speaker 03

  So what about this? Because we need you to like approve some of these shots so we can get them on social. I'm like, great. Because I, by the end, I was like, I did it. I did a really good job. You know, I loved everything from here till, then I went.

• 52:15Speaker 00

  So what's your face doing? Is it just your, are your eyes just like?

• 52:20Speaker 03

  I was like, why do I have stink face? Because you were like, I'm like, no, worse. I'm like this.

• 52:28Speaker 00

  Oh, you look.

• 52:29Speaker 03

  Look, look.

• 52:30Speaker 00

  A bit resting bitch face, is that what you had?

• 52:32Speaker 03

  Like, I smelled something. Like, I'm like, what happened? That's not what I was feeling. Because. It was because here, here.

• 52:39Speaker 00

  You know why? Because you're funny.

• 52:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 52:42Speaker 00

  That's why you are.

• 52:42Speaker 03

  And then when you're funny on a red carpet, you get this.

• 52:44Speaker 00

  Nightmare.

• 52:45Speaker 03

  You get someone going, can you raise the camera? It's like.

• 52:47Speaker 00

  Nightmare.

• 52:47Speaker 03

  It's, it's, it's a nightmare. We don't belong on a red carpet.

• 52:50Speaker 00

  No.

• 52:51Speaker 03

  We don't. No.

• 52:52Speaker 00

  But you do.

• 52:53Speaker 03

  There should be a comedy, no, there should be a comedy red carpet.

• 52:56Speaker 00

  We're not the same.

• 52:57Speaker 03

  I think we should advocate for a comedy red carpet.

• 52:59Speaker 00

  Unfortunately, that's every red carpet I've ever done. It is a comedy red carpet.

• 53:04Speaker 03

  Where the cameras help us out a little bit.

• 53:06Speaker 00

  I've said this before, I really, I, I'm really relating, because I feel like I, I try my best.

• 53:12Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 53:12Speaker 00

  I mean, I try so hard and I get full hair and makeup for hours. And I look at myself in the mirror and I'm like, right, okay, all right. And I get in the car and I get out there and I'm, and I feel like I'm posing like this. This is how I feel like I'm posing. And I see the picture and it's like.

• 53:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:31Speaker 00

  It is the.

• 53:32Speaker 03

  I so know what you're talking about.

• 53:33Speaker 00

  It's like, when did I do that?

• 53:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, when, when you were authentic.

• 53:37Speaker 00

  But, but you're not, that's not the place to be.

• 53:40Speaker 03

  No, exactly. You're right.

• 53:42Speaker 00

  You can't be authentic. And we have to stop. We have to just.

• 53:46Speaker 03

  I agree. Would stop doing what?

• 53:48Speaker 00

  Talking, moving.

• 53:49Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 53:50Speaker 00

  We can't talk.

• 53:51Speaker 03

  You know, there's, there's, there's sort of those who.

• 53:53Speaker 00

  Nicole is incredible.

• 53:55Speaker 03

  Well, Nicole is a goddess.

• 53:57Speaker 00

  And she's every single shot.

• 54:00Speaker 03

  Her from anything that we're in. So like, I'm like, you do you.

• 54:04Speaker 00

  I would never want to do the red carpet with Nicole. First of all, I would look.

• 54:08Speaker 03

  Do you have empathy for me now?

• 54:09Speaker 00

  I mean, at least you're, at least you're five seven, five eight.

• 54:13Speaker 03

  Yes, five seven, five four.

• 54:14Speaker 00

  Can you imagine, I mean, I'm, can you imagine me standing next to Nicole? I would look, I, I, I, it honestly makes me sick to my stomach. I would just be, I would just be doing some.

• 54:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:26Speaker 00

  Some weird.

• 54:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, with your hands.

• 54:30Speaker 03

  So it's not even a dab. It's not even like this, you're like.

• 54:33Speaker 00

  Falling out of my pocket and I'd be talking to her like this.

• 54:36Speaker 03

  Yes. We all do it. We all do it. And she is, she is a goddess.

• 54:40Speaker 00

  She is a goddess. Okay. Um, this leads me to my.

• 54:44Speaker 03

  Stink face leads me to.

• 54:46Speaker 00

  And I bet, but, but, by the way, we all have body dysmorphia, so I bet you look incredible.

• 54:51Speaker 03

  We all do, we all do.

• 54:52Speaker 00

  I bet you look incredible. And I, not bet, I saw it. You did. Um, okay. We talk, we always on this podcast, talk to people who know our guests and give us, like, we talk well behind their back.

• 55:05Speaker 00

  And.

• 55:06Speaker 03

  Well, sweet Jesus.

• 55:07Speaker 00

  And we talk to Maisie Williams.

• 55:09Speaker 03

  Are we already done? Wait a minute, Maisy?

• 55:11Speaker 00

  No, we're not done. No, we're, we're, we have so many, I have so many more things on the, on the, on the paper.

• 55:16Speaker 03

  It's a long show.

• 55:16Speaker 00

  But we usually do like about an hour, an hour 10.

• 55:19Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 55:19Speaker 00

  Okay. And we're live. I'm just kidding. Um, we have been live the whole time.

• 55:24Speaker 03

  Great. So they're gonna.

• 55:28Speaker 03

  Here, hold on. These are all stuck. It's like, the shit is not working.

• 55:37Speaker 00

  Wait, yeah, we just put a little. You know what I like to do in the red carpet? Just put a little black one cookie right under my neck.

• 55:42Speaker 03

  We just, we just think about.

• 55:45Speaker 00

  And then it just sits right here.

• 55:46Speaker 03

  Just work it.

• 55:47Speaker 00

  And it just looks gorgeous.

• 55:48Speaker 03

  Wouldn't it be great if there's like a really great collar that you sort of had and it made your jaw snatched and then you had this taken care of?

• 55:53Speaker 00

  On the way out, your publicist is like, do you have your cookie? Don't forget your cookie. I'm like, oh shit, my cookie for my neck.

• 56:01Speaker 03

  Cookie, sorry.

• 56:02Speaker 00

  Okay. Um, you look incredible. We all look incredible. It's, it, um, we, women are beautiful.

• 56:07Speaker 03

  We messed something up.

• 56:07Speaker 00

  Every woman is beautiful. Okay.

• 56:09Speaker 03

  Oh my God, I'm schwitzy.

• 56:10Speaker 00

  Oh my God, me too. But, um, okay, here is, so we talked to Maisy and we talked to Joey.

• 56:15Speaker 03

  Oh, how extraordinary are those two?

• 56:17Speaker 00

  They're so.

• 56:18Speaker 03

  They are the coolest.

• 56:19Speaker 00

  They're so cool and talented.

• 56:21Speaker 03

  They are, they are everything.

• 56:22Speaker 00

  Tell me about working with them, what it was.

• 56:24Speaker 03

  Um, you know, it's, it's a combination of awe and intimidation because they are so free.

• 56:29Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 56:30Speaker 03

  I'm glad I had to play someone that was tightly wound and had to be very maternal and dark and stiff, you know, like, because their freedom is intimidating and educational.

• 56:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:41Speaker 03

  Like, we were having, um, about just, just being a woman and flying the flag and stuff like that. And I said something about fear. I said, yeah, but you know, you've got, this is amazing. He goes, oh no. And then she went off. She goes, being a woman, she went off on, oh, it's not liking the word witch. I said, I don't like the word witch because it always came with negative connotation.

• 56:58Speaker 00

  Of course it was.

• 56:59Speaker 03

  Had full ownership of it.

• 57:01Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 57:01Speaker 03

  I mean, and she, and it was like.

• 57:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's the divine feminine and its real power.

• 57:06Speaker 03

  They are both, they both epitomize that. And it's so peaceful to see because I'm like, if that's where that generation is, it, my daughter's definitely in that generation.

• 57:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:18Speaker 03

  It's, it makes you calm for the future. Like, maybe our job was well done, you know, Gloria Steinem.

• 57:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. Rest in peace, Gloria.

• 57:26Speaker 03

  I see how genuine Maisy and Joey are about other women.

• 57:30Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 57:30Speaker 03

  Their want for other women to succeed fearlessly, they're in support of these women. They don't feel like anything is being taken from them in their support of other women.

• 57:39Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 57:39Speaker 03

  And I'm like, I, I, I, I just find them, I, I just, I learned, I learned a lot from them.

• 57:46Speaker 00

  They, of course, adore you. They loved working with you. And they, their questions were so tender. I loved their questions. Um, and, and it makes sense that they're those kind of people. Um, Maisy's was, she was kind of talking about your physicality. And she also said something I found really interesting. And, you know, not to make the comparison, but it was very, it's very Lucy, it's very Lucille Ball. Is that she talked about the way you like to really rehearse your physical stuff. That rehearsing is the way in which you kind of get into it and.

• 58:14Speaker 03

  For the physical stuff, not for verbal comedic stuff.

• 58:17Speaker 00

  Right. But that's what Lucy used to do. Lucy used to come in and walk through her physical stuff, which you imagine like, her physical stuff felt like it was spontaneous, not at all. And she got more and more comfortable with the physical by doing it.

• 58:31Speaker 03

  I didn't know that.

• 58:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, she was really into rehearsing. And anyway, she talked about how for her, that physical stuff is kind of like, Maisy can probably cry like the best of them.

• 58:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 58:41Speaker 00

  I mean, Arya Stark, the most incredible character.

• 58:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:43Speaker 00

  But she was like, the physicality in comedy in, in, in, in those two things. And she was like, how does, she was like, how do you not get self-conscious when you're doing it? Which I thought was such a tender question. And, um, I feel like we talked about it a little bit, but, but, but I guess, how do you not?

• 59:00Speaker 03

  You do. And you use it.

• 59:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:03Speaker 03

  To be uncomfortable is the greatest feeling for me within doing the physical things like that. As uncomfortable as I can get, because then I can react off of it. So I try to set things up to even bump myself. I, we had this great gentleman who's, Gary, who did props, Gary. Love, love me some, it's like, so he's my set boyfriend, Gary, in the props, because it became a game of, I would set things a certain way. And he figured out why I was setting them a certain way so I could surprise myself and then get caught on something. And he would slightly move it aside. And it would just give me something else. And like, when it didn't move, I was like, why didn't he move it?

• 59:41Speaker 03

  Why didn't Gary move it for me? But it, to be uncomfortable is the best position to be in, I feel, for the comedy that I like to do. I mean, you too, right?

• 59:51Speaker 00

  Absolutely. Like, a little bit of tension.

• 59:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 59:54Speaker 00

  That, and that feeling of like, a little bit of danger.

• 59:57Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 59:58Speaker 00

  And, um, you know, a tiny bit of, uh, I don't know, I guess it's what an athlete must feel. It's the closest thing to feel. I'll never be an athlete. But the idea that there's something on the line, there's something on the line.

• 1:00:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:11Speaker 00

  That you can create, that, that, that's not scary, but, but a little bit of stress.

• 1:00:17Speaker 03

  Yes. And that's, that's what I do for my lines. I learn them three quarters. And I'll never drop a line for another actor, but I want to always like be able to pivot, drop it if I need to, be in danger, like, let it surprise me as well.

• 1:00:32Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:00:32Speaker 03

  Because you can become very rote.

• 1:00:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:00:34Speaker 03

  And that.

• 1:00:34Speaker 00

  Well, that's if you learn your lines, which I choose not to do.

• 1:00:37Speaker 03

  You don't, okay, well.

• 1:00:38Speaker 00

  I don't believe in it.

• 1:00:41Speaker 03

  That line thing.

• 1:00:42Speaker 00

  And then Joey had the sweetest question, which is, when is the last time you asked yourself, wow, does it get any better than this?

• 1:00:52Speaker 03

  Oh my God.

• 1:00:53Speaker 00

  I know.

• 1:00:59Speaker 00

  What a nice, what a crazy question.

• 1:01:05Speaker 00

  Isn't that so nice? Look at us crying. We're so good at it. We're so good at it.

• 1:01:09Speaker 03

  Do you see it? Get a close up.

• 1:01:11Speaker 00

  We're good. We can do it.

• 1:01:12Speaker 03

  But that's, that's when I cry. I cry with kindness. I, in the big moments, when you expect everyone to cry, I have to hold it together because I have to take care of big things. The feels hit me when there's kindness that I didn't expect. And that question.

• 1:01:28Speaker 00

  What a great question.

• 1:01:29Speaker 03

  I, I don't. And I think that's what she's meaning. She knows I don't stop enough and go, well, I, but it's not true. This whole past year from, from London, when we started filming, I, I, I see things, it's just like, so differently.

• 1:01:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:01:44Speaker 03

  I, I really do. It's like, I'm allowing myself to be a kid in how I see things again.

• 1:01:48Speaker 00

  But that play is the, is the, um, indication that you're a little out of crisis. It's really.

• 1:01:55Speaker 03

  Out of crisis. Really?

• 1:01:56Speaker 00

  It's hard to play when you're in crisis. It's like, the reason why for a lot of people it was hard to create during COVID, it was hard to like, organize thing, you know? Because when, when you're really feeling in crisis, it, it plays, is the first to go.

• 1:02:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:02:11Speaker 00

  When you feel that back again, that's like some little bit of, like, feeling that things are getting just a little bit more safe or regulated, like.

• 1:02:19Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. Well, I mean, for Joey then, her, for both of them, like, just, you know, because we're passing the torch. Or we're like, as Gloria said, I light others' torches. So this, and lighting their torch, it was a bonfire, you know? And to be opposite them when there's like a lot on the, we have the nostalgia part and to see them just bring it, that's when it doesn't get any better.

• 1:02:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:02:40Speaker 03

  When the choices we made to bring those two very specific talents on.

• 1:02:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:02:46Speaker 03

  And watch them kill it.

• 1:02:48Speaker 00

  You're such a good producer.

• 1:02:49Speaker 03

  You know, it's like, it's like.

• 1:02:50Speaker 00

  Can we just talk, take a minute?

• 1:02:51Speaker 03

  I love it. I love it.

• 1:02:53Speaker 00

  You're just, you're just really, really deeply, uh, empathetic, compassionate, but very successful and, uh.

• 1:03:05Speaker 00

  You're just a baller of a producer.

• 1:03:07Speaker 03

  You know, that's really nice of you to say. I mean, I don't.

• 1:03:10Speaker 00

  You have produced, what, like 15 films or something? And you produce a lot of stuff. And I think a lot of people can feel your presence when you're working on something because they know that you're producing it frankly.

• 1:03:21Speaker 03

  You do a lot of good sucking up in your interviews.

• 1:03:23Speaker 00

  Well, you know what? Right back at you. You're always trying to throw it back at me. Okay, and Practical Magic, really good music.

• 1:03:29Speaker 03

  Right?

• 1:03:30Speaker 00

  Right? I mean, did you have to get, was it, did you have to write personal letters to be able to get their music?

• 1:03:34Speaker 03

  We did some calling. We did some reaching out.

• 1:03:36Speaker 00

  Olivia, Rodrigo, Fleetwood Mac.

• 1:03:38Speaker 03

  And she doesn't license to anyone.

• 1:03:40Speaker 00

  No, I know.

• 1:03:41Speaker 03

  And she's a fellow witchy poo.

• 1:03:42Speaker 00

  She's a, what a peach.

• 1:03:44Speaker 03

  She's a.

• 1:03:45Speaker 00

  Talk about like the future is. No kidding.

• 1:03:49Speaker 03

  She's, she's.

• 1:03:50Speaker 00

  Olivia, please come on. We love you. Okay. All right, let's do a speed round, a speed, speed round.

• 1:03:55Speaker 03

  Hold on, let me get it. Let me wet my whistle.

• 1:03:57Speaker 00

  You love real estate and design.

• 1:03:58Speaker 03

  Do we want to do it like this?

• 1:03:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, let's do it like this. Well, then the pervs will get into it.

• 1:04:02Speaker 03

  Oh, but don't you want pervs or an audience?

• 1:04:05Speaker 00

  Well, you know, it's a great question. I welcome pervs.

• 1:04:07Speaker 03

  You know what I love? It's the laughing that's coming. Are they sitting in the bathroom?

• 1:04:11Speaker 00

  They're sitting in the back.

• 1:04:11Speaker 03

  Because there's the echo. Is there tile in that room? There is, right? Speaking of real estate, there's no better laugh than a laugh from the toilet.

• 1:04:20Speaker 00

  Oh, my God, that's such a good call. Tile, a tile of laughs. You're right, because it's like usually ladies in the bathroom. I also enjoy a laugh that comes from like when you're a little kid and you're sitting on the stairs and there's like a party downstairs.

• 1:04:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:33Speaker 00

  I love the laugh that travels up a stair. Okay. But yes.

• 1:04:38Speaker 03

  She said that as the way, as though it's happened recently.

• 1:04:42Speaker 03

  Your sons are throwing down in the basement.

• 1:04:44Speaker 00

  Get back to your question. Pervs are welcome, but creeps are not.

• 1:04:47Speaker 03

  Okay, yeah, no, we.

• 1:04:48Speaker 00

  Big difference.

• 1:04:49Speaker 03

  Got it. Yes.

• 1:04:50Speaker 00

  We've talked about this on here with Ike Barinholtz.

• 1:04:52Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:04:52Speaker 00

  There's a difference between a perv and a creep. You know who you are.

• 1:04:55Speaker 03

  Yes, yeah.

• 1:04:56Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:04:58Speaker 00

  But you love real estate and design.

• 1:04:59Speaker 03

  I do, I do.

• 1:05:01Speaker 00

  How would you describe your design sense in a word or two?

• 1:05:05Speaker 03

  Depends on the structure.

• 1:05:06Speaker 00

  So you go with the place, like you're listening to the.

• 1:05:09Speaker 03

  I listen to the place. I walk in and I go, who are the craftsmen? What does this place want to be? Because I love the restoration process.

• 1:05:16Speaker 00

  So I feel like that word would be like organic history or something.

• 1:05:20Speaker 03

  Wabi-sabi.

• 1:05:21Speaker 00

  Wabi, here we go. Okay. Sleep. What time do you go to bed?

• 1:05:26Speaker 03

  Love it. I'm a great sleeper. I'm a great sleeper.

• 1:05:30Speaker 00

  I knew you would be.

• 1:05:31Speaker 03

  I mean, I try to stay awake until, you know, Lila's in bed because she's a terrorist at night. So I just, if she's out, then I can go to bed. But it's like 10 o'clock, up at 5:30.

• 1:05:40Speaker 00

  That's what a professional does.

• 1:05:41Speaker 03

  It is.

• 1:05:42Speaker 00

  Pets. How many do you have?

• 1:05:45Speaker 03

  I have four right now.

• 1:05:47Speaker 00

  What flavors?

• 1:05:48Speaker 03

  I have flavors. I have vanilla, peach, and two chocolate.

• 1:05:53Speaker 00

  Do you have chickens?

• 1:05:54Speaker 03

  I don't have, all my chickens passed away.

• 1:05:56Speaker 00

  I'm sorry.

• 1:05:56Speaker 03

  I have, I have a somewhat blind poodle. I have a little rescue poodle who has a collapsed trachea because they shoved spoons down her throat to quiet her. She was part of an illegal puppy mill.

• 1:06:09Speaker 00

  Oh, bless her heart.

• 1:06:10Speaker 03

  But at least they have legs. We had dogs without legs and the kids were like, enough. We have mama, who is a black feral, somewhat feral cat that was on my property, who then brought two baby, like I'm highly allergic to cats. And I was like, I am not bringing a cat in this house. The cats are in the house. So there's two, there's mama and her baby. And yeah, so two gorgeous black cats. My sister calls them the house panthers. And I go, that's brilliant. So they're the house panthers.

• 1:06:36Speaker 00

  Um, horses, do you like them?

• 1:06:37Speaker 03

  Love them, but highly allergic.

• 1:06:39Speaker 00

  Well, because I have a theory that the thicker your hair, the more you like horses.

• 1:06:42Speaker 03

  Love them, but I'm highly allergic. My daughter is a great rider. She's, she's, she's knows how to tame the beast.

• 1:06:50Speaker 00

  What's a musical artist that your kids got you into?

• 1:06:52Speaker 03

  J. Cole.

• 1:06:56Speaker 03

  I mean.

• 1:06:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:06:57Speaker 03

  It's good.

• 1:06:58Speaker 00

  Protein. How do you take yours? How do you get it?

• 1:07:01Speaker 03

  Thick.

• 1:07:06Speaker 03

  I mean, you set me up. You said, protein, how do you take it?

• 1:07:11Speaker 00

  I wasn't even thinking that. What a dirty.

• 1:07:13Speaker 03

  I wasn't thinking that either.

• 1:07:15Speaker 00

  I was talking about chicken.

• 1:07:17Speaker 03

  I'm talking about yogurt.

• 1:07:18Speaker 00

  Salmon, beefy yogurt.

• 1:07:19Speaker 03

  Greek yogurt, thick Greek.

• 1:07:21Speaker 00

  Sandra Bullock.

• 1:07:22Speaker 03

  0% Greek yogurt.

• 1:07:24Speaker 00

  Very good. That's what I was talking about.

• 1:07:26Speaker 03

  A good pulled chicken salad and then, you know, the little peptide proteins in the coffee in the morning.

• 1:07:32Speaker 00

  I'm always trying to figure out how to get it.

• 1:07:33Speaker 03

  I mean, it's like, but are we going to find out like 10 years from now that we've overdone it? We've grown some like internal like eyes, some like.

• 1:07:39Speaker 00

  And also I always appreciate when it's like, what's another thing I'm supposed to get right? Like, what is another thing I have to do? Good Lord.

• 1:07:47Speaker 00

  Okay, and then, um, wait, is this all of our speed round questions?

• 1:07:50Speaker 03

  That's a lot.

• 1:07:51Speaker 00

  So fun. Okay, yeah, we're almost done. Here we go. We got to wrap this up.

• 1:07:53Speaker 03

  I'm not questioning you. I have nowhere to go.

• 1:07:55Speaker 00

  We have places to be and you have talked so much.

• 1:08:00Speaker 00

  I'm in a good way.

• 1:08:01Speaker 03

  I apologize. I mean, when this press tour is over, I'm going away for another four years. I'm gone, promise.

• 1:08:06Speaker 00

  No, please. Oh, we love hearing from you.

• 1:08:09Speaker 03

  Unless I come here, I'll just stop here once a year. I got something going on or not, I just stop.

• 1:08:13Speaker 00

  That came out the wrong way. I mean, you've had to talk so much. Not that you've talked so much here. I love you talking here and have loved it. And so my last question for you is that I ask everybody is, um, what's making you laugh? Like what? But I mean, when you're like at home, you know, what's the thing that you are, you know, it, it, like, where do you go when you need to change the chemistry a little bit?

• 1:08:45Speaker 00

  That makes sense because you're so funny.

• 1:08:47Speaker 03

  It's like, it's like, nothing makes me laugh harder than Louis, my son, man, a few words. Like, like, it's like, I don't know. I don't know, no, no. And he's like, mom, yeah, he mumbles everything and I can't, I can't understand a word. I'm like, English. He's 16 and a half. I'm like, English. But then when he's standing there and he's, you know, no, no smile and he's like, you know, can I have a milkshake? And I was like, yeah, sure. And then I get up there and I go, my milkshake brings, you know, and I'll just start twerking. And he's just watching it. And then if he smiles, I'm laughing so hard, whether he smiles or not. But like humiliation.

• 1:09:22Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:09:23Speaker 03

  Makes me laugh.

• 1:09:24Speaker 00

  Me too.

• 1:09:25Speaker 03

  If I can humiliate my children.

• 1:09:27Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:09:28Speaker 03

  In the privacy of our home, not in public.

• 1:09:29Speaker 00

  Of course.

• 1:09:30Speaker 03

  But in the privacy of our own home.

• 1:09:31Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:09:31Speaker 03

  With the little rump shaking, I, it's the greatest joy.

• 1:09:35Speaker 00

  But that's play. Like you're just playing.

• 1:09:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:38Speaker 00

  And also it is, I mean, I can say this, but you can't, but like he, like, it's so funny to know that the entire world loves you, Sandy. They feel so connected to you. They've grown up with you. You are their favorite. And yet you cannot get your child to laugh.

• 1:09:55Speaker 03

  I cannot, I cannot.

• 1:09:56Speaker 00

  It's so funny and also a great, healthy relationship.

• 1:10:00Speaker 03

  Yes, it's very, very.

• 1:10:01Speaker 00

  It's very healthy.

• 1:10:01Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:10:02Speaker 00

  That's, that's how you want it to be.

• 1:10:03Speaker 03

  I am just annoying right now. To both children, I'm just annoying.

• 1:10:07Speaker 00

  That's, that's perfect. That's the perfect way you should be for any teen. But, um, I, I, I just love talking to you. I knew I would. I didn't want to put too much expectation on us being friends, but I do feel like we've.

• 1:10:20Speaker 03

  But do you know how nice this is for me?

• 1:10:22Speaker 00

  I feel like we're best friends.

• 1:10:22Speaker 03

  No, I mean, but I think us not really, I mean, little ships passing in the night, little, you know, but having the opportunity to meet you now at this stage of our life.

• 1:10:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:32Speaker 03

  Is pretty amazing because everything is all over the place and we're all striving for different things and relationships and kids and dreams and things like that. But to be able to sit here and, and acknowledge like where we are and where we've been and that where I'm looking at you just going, I'm so glad you are.

• 1:10:54Speaker 03

  That you just are. And I'm so glad that you have this, this world that you've created. So we get to come in and experience you in a way that we wouldn't be able to. And you're like, you are, you are one of those that those of us who love comedy do the like the bend.

• 1:11:12Speaker 00

  Oh, come on.

• 1:11:13Speaker 03

  But you, you have to know that.

• 1:11:14Speaker 00

  Thank you for that.

• 1:11:15Speaker 03

  To a great many of us.

• 1:11:17Speaker 00

  Thank you very much for saying that.

• 1:11:18Speaker 03

  Because it is, it is, it is, it's unmatched.

• 1:11:23Speaker 00

  The feeling is mutual.

• 1:11:24Speaker 03

  But just shut up and take the compliment for a second. So for you, you allowing.

• 1:11:27Speaker 00

  I'm hitting it right back to you, babe.

• 1:11:29Speaker 03

  Shut your face. So just, you invited.

• 1:11:31Speaker 00

  One of us is giving the present and one of us is receiving and I'm giving and you're receiving and you are not giving me a present at the end of this conversation.

• 1:11:39Speaker 00

  Thank you so much for saying that. It means a lot to me. It really does. Thank you.

• 1:11:42Speaker 03

  I feel really grateful. And this is, I was very, I was a little nervous.

• 1:11:45Speaker 00

  You were?

• 1:11:46Speaker 03

  I was a little bit.

• 1:11:46Speaker 00

  Shit, I'm sorry to hear that.

• 1:11:48Speaker 03

  No, no, no, in a good, a good way because I was so looking forward to it.

• 1:11:52Speaker 00

  Same. I, I wanted to kind of temper my expectation because I was like, don't come on too strong. It's okay if she doesn't become your friend.

• 1:11:59Speaker 03

  She doesn't like you.

• 1:12:00Speaker 00

  It's okay if she doesn't like you. Most people don't. Just relax.

• 1:12:03Speaker 03

  I mean, just walking in and seeing you, you know, was like, I was like, did I just cross a boundary? By like throwing my arms around her face, you know, but I, I, I felt very safe here. And you make people feel very, very, to me, that is everything.

• 1:12:16Speaker 00

  Sandy, thank you. Really. Thank you so much for doing it. And I adore you. So thanks so much.

• 1:12:21Speaker 03

  I now adore you.

• 1:12:23Speaker 00

  We did it. Oh, my God, it was so good.

• 1:12:29Speaker 00

  Oh, Sandra Bullock, you are just the best. Thank you so much for coming on. That was such a delight to talk to you. And like everything you do was moving and deep and funny and real and authentic. I just love talking to you. And for this polar plunge, I think, you know,

• 1:12:49Speaker 00

  Sandy talked a lot about the, um, the care that she took of her partner, Brian Randall, who died of ALS. And I think we spoke a little bit about caretaking in general. And I guess I just wanted to take the second to reach out to anybody who is listening today, who are in thick of it, who are caretaking currently as we speak or know someone who is stretched thin. We're just sending our love to you. I know Sandy would feel the same. And she said some really amazing things here about making sure to take care of yourself along the way. So reminding you of that message and saying thanks if no one said thanks to you today. Thank you. Thank you for listening. Sandy, thank you for all that you've done and the joy you've given us

• 1:13:33Speaker 00

  and continue to give us. And thanks for listening to Good Hang. Bye.

• 1:13:39Speaker 00

  You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, Aleia Zaneras, Bridget Geerlings, Paige Garberini, Belle Roman, and Drew Van Steen-Burgen. For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss-Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.

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