Marcello Hernández

Marcello Hernández is going to tell us what his deal is. Amy hangs with the 'SNL' star and talks about being a bad texter, why working is bad and weird, and being really good at taking compliments. Host: Amy PoehlerGuests: Sarah Sherman and Marcello HernándezExecutive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-BermanFor Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, and supervising producer Joel LovellFor The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson, Belle Roman, and Aleya Zenieris; lighting director Caroline Jannace; audio producer Kaya McMullen; social producer Bridget Geerlings; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and bookers Kat Spillane and Paige GarbariniOriginal Music: Amy Miles Brought to you by PayPal. Learn more at https://paypal.com/payin4 Switch today at https://www. Visible.com for just 25/mo. Or get the premium Visible+ pro plan and save $10 on your first month with code HANG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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  Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. Very excited about our guest today. It is Marcelo Hernandez. You know Marcelo from SNL. He is a great stand-up. He's a real charm machine and we love Marcelo. We have so much fun in this interview. We're gonna, we're gonna talk about so many things today. We're gonna talk about soccer. We're gonna talk about summer school. We're gonna talk about the fact that his mom decides who cuts his hair. We're gonna talk about, um, he's bad at texting. And he's gonna try to constantly and consistently compliment me through this thing. And I'm gonna really, really fight back. So, um, we're gonna have a good time today. But before we talk to Marcelo, we always find somebody who knows our guest, who wants to speak well behind our guest's back and, and give me a question to ask them.

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  And we are back with our friend Sarah Sherman. Sarah, a fellow cast member with Marcelo at SNL and a real peach. And we're gonna get her on Zoom and see, um, see what she thinks I should ask him. Look, wow, some interesting Photoshop.

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  Wow, for people that are listening and not watching, Sarah just popped up on her Zoom with a Marcelo screensaver. She's in between two gorgeous pictures of him.

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  Sup lady? Can we buy you a drink?

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  Look at that punim, as, as one would say.

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  Isn't he so cute?

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  He really does have a real puppy quality.

• 2:57Speaker 01

  Do we have the same hair, by the way? He would, by the way, kill himself if I said that.

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  Sarah, you know that I like to compliment you and you like to deflect.

• 3:08Speaker 01

  I want it. I want it today. That's what I want.

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  You have great hair.

• 3:14Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 3:16Speaker 01

  I do go into getting a haircut and I say, do your worst. So, I'm glad it comes out good.

• 3:25Speaker 00

  Sherman, it is really good to see you.

• 3:28Speaker 01

  I miss you guys.

• 3:30Speaker 00

  We, we miss you. We, our time together on the pod was so fun. We still talk about it, but Marcelo is probably the, the, um, cast member I feel like I kinda know the least about. And, um, tell me when you, when you guys first met? How, how, you were already at the show?

• 3:54Speaker 01

  I met him on the show. This fucking brat shows up. He is gonna be so fucking mad that you guys got me for this. He's gonna be like, could've gotten Kevin Hart, Sebastian Maniscalco, Adam Sandler, and you got fucking Sarah. Our relationship started, cause I'd be up all night on writing night, like, writing like a maniac. And he would be like, chill dude, relax, you're good, man. Cause I feel like I'm a very, I'm like a homework girl.

• 4:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:24Speaker 01

  And, you know, having someone reflect that back, having like a fun guy.

• 4:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:30Speaker 01

  Like major puppy dog energy being like, you can relax, you can take it easy, sis.

• 4:36Speaker 00

  It's funny that you say that. That is like, when I was thinking about what I wanna talk to him about, like, he definitely always looks like he's having fun. It's very like little, little brother energy. Like, you guys, let's not forget that this is fun.

• 4:49Speaker 01

  I would die without him there because he is, he's always having fun. Like writing night at 3:00 AM, he's, him and Cam Patterson will be like, doing like backflips. So they'll put like all the chairs in, on 17 together in like a big tower on top of like the writing table and like do like backflips over them. But he's really, um, he's very menshy. Like he's very, you know, like he's, he's really tight with his mom. You know, he, you know, he's like such a good guy because of how like, well, he takes care of his like family and like, you know, uh, the little brother energy is like, cause he cares. Like he'll call me like on a Wednesday at 8:00 PM, like during a hiatus when we're like, you know,

• 5:31Speaker 01

  I'm, I'm like lying on my couch, like rotting. And he'll be like, all right, bro. What, what clubs are you doing tonight? Like, are you getting up there? What are you doing? Come on. And like, I'm lying down watching X-Files. And he's like, let's hit the cellar, what do you, put your Avails in, do, do some shows. Like, he's like weirdly like encouraging and he like, he'll like telepathically feel if I'm like feeling kind of like shitty and like activate.

• 5:59Speaker 00

  Do stand-ups do that for each other? Or were they kind of like encourage each other to keep getting up and trying new stuff?

• 6:05Speaker 01

  Marcelo does. I feel like most stand-ups are such fucking bloodsuckers that they like, hope nobody else is getting up.

• 6:11Speaker 00

  Totally.

• 6:12Speaker 01

  So they can hog all the stage time.

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  I wanna talk to him about the fact like he was a really good soccer player, like really cares about sports, like has a good connection with a lot of, like is hosting the Aspies, all this stuff, like is a, is like a jock.

• 6:25Speaker 01

  He's a jock. In a way where, um, I think, I can't believe I'm gonna be complimenting him so much.

• 6:35Speaker 01

  I'll get you. He, um, he's a, it's really great at SNL because he is like, kind of like a team player in like a real way. Like he's really good at like involving people in bits and like, and sketches and like, he, you know, he gets everyone's voice really well and he's really good at including other people in his bits. And in a way that's extremely generous, in a very team player way, even though he is a stand-up and because he is a jock, he's really athletic and his like physicality like is unbelievable. He did, he did a Sebastian Maniscalco sketch where like Sebastian is like a lawyer. He does like a backflip in it. He does like a back handspring, like a Russian teenage gymnast.

• 7:22Speaker 01

  He, he did a backflip in like a Jack Black sketch too. He's like, he's physically unbelievable and like light on his feet and like doing backflips, you know.

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  So many backflips.

• 7:34Speaker 01

  I can't explain it. Like that's what he, he is like a newborn puppy who just like popped out of the womb, did a backflip. But then like, you know, he'll come to my office at like 10:00 PM. He's like, I'm ordering Thai food, you want anything? And I joked like, yeah, give me a Beats pill. And he got me one.

• 7:54Speaker 00

  What's a Beats pill?

• 7:56Speaker 01

  A little speaker.

• 8:00Speaker 01

  He's just like, he's, he's just generous like that. It was like four minutes ago, he was giving me a wedgie and now I have like a $300 speaker in my office. When I was kidding, by the way.

• 8:13Speaker 00

  Okay, what, um, what question do you think I should ask Marcelo today?

• 8:18Speaker 01

  I have like three questions.

• 8:18Speaker 00

  Okay, great.

• 8:19Speaker 01

  About, one, what's your fucking deal, dude? Two, oh, are you gonna stay not answering my texts? Look at your phone, Marcelo.

• 8:31Speaker 00

  I have experience with that. Marcelo is really bad at texting.

• 8:35Speaker 01

  Cause he's, well, I have his location on. So I'll be like, why isn't he fucking texting me back? And then I'll look at his location and he's doing like a children's fundraiser in Costa Rica. I'm like, okay, respect.

• 8:48Speaker 00

  Respect.

• 8:48Speaker 01

  Respect. Um, and I always know where he is at all times, so he can never betray me. My, my question is, he is, he's a very inherently social person and gets like, he gets very energized by other people. He's all, like, he literally kind of like can't be alone for more than five seconds, which is why he's so fun. Um, but legit, he's an amazing joke writer and he's extremely productive and prolific. Like, he just put out an hour of stand-up. He already has another, he's constantly touring. And I just like, don't understand when and where he has the time to do that. So I'm like, it's kind of a bad question, but I'm like, I literally wanna know,

• 9:33Speaker 01

  when and how is he writing jokes?

• 9:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:35Speaker 01

  Cause also he, I have a feeling, cause I've asked him this before and I think he was just like, shut up, you know, whatever. But it is like a serious question, cause I have a feeling he writes a lot on stage because he's so like physical and like gets really energized by an audience. But his jokes are actually good and well-written.

• 9:54Speaker 00

  You're making a good point, right? Which is that sometimes when someone's, not always, but like when someone's doing physical stuff, it's like a vibe. And if you read it on a page, it wouldn't really feel like a, like a crafted joke. But you're saying he can do both.

• 10:07Speaker 01

  He has legit, well-written jokes. You know, and he always kind of makes this joke like at SNL. You know, he's like, you know me, like, you know, I'm like a bad sketch writer or whatever. Cause you know, you just get into like a way at SNL where you're like, you've decided you've called yourself something.

• 10:25Speaker 00

  Totally.

• 10:26Speaker 01

  Like, you know.

• 10:27Speaker 00

  Totally.

• 10:27Speaker 01

  When you did therapy on me like crazy, when I was like, I'm not a good actor or performer, you know, whatever. But he'll be like, oh, you know, like I can't write it. But it's like, then when he actually puts his fingers on a keyboard and writes, it's like, he is a really good writer. And all this stand-up, it's like really tight, good. He's set up punchline jokes. So in my head, I'm like, so he's writing it down? But I'm like, when, where?

• 10:54Speaker 00

  I love his question, cause it, it, I think that there's a, underneath it, there's just this idea of like figuring out what we're like allowed to say about ourselves. Like what do we actually, what would we dare to say we're good at, basically?

• 11:11Speaker 01

  Right.

• 11:12Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  That's good. Yeah, come to think of it, I did ask a good question, didn't I?

• 11:20Speaker 00

  Now, the Gen Xer in me wants to know, how did you get his face in the Zoom screen? And how do you do that?

• 11:26Speaker 01

  Listen, I'm a professional and I'm also a magician as well. So magician never reveals the secrets that she does really well.

• 11:33Speaker 00

  Shermy, I love talking to you. I wish we could do it every week. It's so fun. Thanks for doing this. I think he's gonna be so happy.

• 11:42Speaker 01

  Are you guys seeing him now?

• 11:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's coming in and like, um, he'll be here in like a half an hour.

• 11:47Speaker 01

  Tell him I said up yours.

• 11:50Speaker 00

  Thank you so much.

• 11:51Speaker 01

  Love you.

• 11:52Speaker 00

  Okay, love you too. Talk to you soon. Bye.

• 11:55Speaker 01

  Bye.

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• 12:54Speaker 00

  Wow, Marcelo is here and he has a gorgeous...

• 12:59Speaker 02

  Do you have, um...

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  Gorgeous flowers.

• 13:02Speaker 02

  You have like a huge vase?

• 13:05Speaker 00

  Marcelo?

• 13:09Speaker 02

  This is for you.

• 13:12Speaker 02

  They remind me of you.

• 13:14Speaker 00

  Sunflowers?

• 13:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, you brighten so many people's lives.

• 13:18Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 13:19Speaker 02

  And I think I, um, it's the least I can do.

• 13:22Speaker 00

  Well, let's get started. Why is Marcelo bringing me flowers? Why do you feel the need to bring me such... Thank you for these gorgeous flowers.

• 13:30Speaker 02

  Of course, of course. I'm sensing a weird energy.

• 13:34Speaker 02

  Like you're not so happy about the flowers or...

• 13:37Speaker 00

  I'm so happy, but I feel like...

• 13:38Speaker 02

  Put them on the floor.

• 13:41Speaker 00

  I feel like this is some kind of mea culpa. What's happening?

• 13:44Speaker 02

  No, no. Mea, mea, mea happy. Mea grateful to be here with you.

• 13:52Speaker 00

  You came...

• 13:52Speaker 02

  And so many people, they give people, they give people their flowers. You know what I mean?

• 13:56Speaker 00

  Oh, you're giving me...

• 13:58Speaker 02

  Literally.

• 13:59Speaker 00

  They're beautiful. You came in very shy.

• 14:02Speaker 02

  I know. Dude, it's so good to see you. And yes, I do have a mea culpa if people are wondering.

• 14:09Speaker 00

  Do you?

• 14:09Speaker 02

  I do with you, yes.

• 14:11Speaker 00

  What is it?

• 14:11Speaker 02

  Cause you texted me and I didn't answer. I took too long.

• 14:15Speaker 00

  What did I text you about?

• 14:17Speaker 02

  I don't even wanna think about it. It's a big mistake. It's one of my largest regrets.

• 14:21Speaker 00

  No, I'm getting to know you and what I'm realizing is that you're not a great texter.

• 14:27Speaker 02

  No.

• 14:27Speaker 00

  That's okay.

• 14:28Speaker 02

  No, but I'm working.

• 14:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:30Speaker 02

  I'm doing the work and, um, I'm big on a...

• 14:33Speaker 00

  Wait, did you just catch a fly?

• 14:35Speaker 02

  Not a fly, no. I did not kill an animal.

• 14:37Speaker 00

  That would be amazing.

• 14:39Speaker 02

  It was a flurry, something.

• 14:41Speaker 00

  Like a fuzzy?

• 14:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, fuzzy, yes. But, um, no, it's, um, it's so bad and, um...

• 14:49Speaker 00

  Does it bother you to be a bad texter?

• 14:51Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 14:52Speaker 00

  Do you actually care?

• 14:53Speaker 02

  I care a lot.

• 14:54Speaker 00

  You do?

• 14:54Speaker 02

  Especially when like, especially when it's somebody like you that I'm like, I can't believe I, you texted me. Like I, I think about it often of like, you worked your whole life to get to a place where an Amy Poehler could or would text you. And then you have the balls.

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  Ghosted, ghosted.

• 15:16Speaker 02

  The gonads to go, sorry, I didn't see. Who are you, a friend from college? Sorry, I didn't see this in time.

• 15:25Speaker 00

  Also, your response months later was like, oh, I was so tired. It was something like, it was something like, I haven't had any sleep.

• 15:34Speaker 02

  I haven't.

• 15:35Speaker 00

  I know. It's tough.

• 15:37Speaker 02

  I apologize and I got here on time.

• 15:40Speaker 00

  I really appreciate it. Wait, you rode here?

• 15:43Speaker 02

  I rode here on a bike. It saved me nine minutes on the commute.

• 15:47Speaker 00

  And people should know it's very hot out today.

• 15:49Speaker 02

  With the flowers. One hand, I risked my life. That's a lie. But...

• 15:55Speaker 00

  Wow, thank you for that.

• 15:56Speaker 02

  I sent them in the car. I didn't wanna get them in trouble.

• 15:58Speaker 00

  Beautiful flowers.

• 15:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, shout out to my assistant, Madi.

• 16:01Speaker 00

  Your major assistant. Your major assistant ride a bike with the flowers.

• 16:05Speaker 02

  No, she's in the car. She's in the car with the flowers.

• 16:09Speaker 00

  When you're riding a bike in New York City, do you have people be like, hey?

• 16:12Speaker 02

  Sometimes.

• 16:13Speaker 00

  They recognize you?

• 16:13Speaker 02

  I like that. That's my favorite type of interaction. Hey, hey!

• 16:19Speaker 02

  Marcelo, yes!

• 16:21Speaker 00

  You can ride away.

• 16:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:23Speaker 00

  Marcelo, there's so many good things happening for you. First of all, congratulations on being like almost a vet at SNL.

• 16:30Speaker 02

  I know.

• 16:30Speaker 00

  Like you now, you know, like you're in that sweet spot.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  Oh, God.

• 16:34Speaker 00

  Right? Where you know how it works? Like you, you're not terrified anymore.

• 16:39Speaker 02

  Right.

• 16:39Speaker 00

  There's people that are newer than you.

• 16:41Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 16:41Speaker 00

  Like it's a nice, nice place to be in.

• 16:43Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's also, yeah, I'm not so confused anymore.

• 16:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:46Speaker 02

  I know the schedules and stuff.

• 16:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, cause it is a weird place to work and it has its own set of rules. And like now you kinda know it and you're like, people know you and they're...

• 16:55Speaker 02

  This is so surreal to be talking to you like this. It is crazy. You have to understand it.

• 16:59Speaker 00

  All right, all right.

• 16:59Speaker 02

  I know that for you. You're like, I'm just Amy, but you're not.

• 17:02Speaker 00

  Well, you...

• 17:03Speaker 02

  You are, you are a force of nature. Dude, I was watching all of your, uh, every award show that Amy... Dude, you are, you, you, you're so funny. You had a guy massaging you. You had, and you kissed him.

• 17:16Speaker 00

  That guy was Bono.

• 17:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, Bono. Bono's massaging her and kissing. I'm very Hispanic. And then, um, you, you, you had the thing with George Clooney where you're like flirting with him. Oh, man. So freaking good. The hoodie, the great, one of the great GIFs.

• 17:33Speaker 00

  Oh, my God. Is that how we say it? Cause I never know.

• 17:35Speaker 02

  GIF, GIF, doesn't matter.

• 17:36Speaker 00

  Great. Okay, well, this leads me into my first question.

• 17:39Speaker 02

  Okay, great.

• 17:39Speaker 00

  Because what I got from your special is so funny. So great.

• 17:43Speaker 02

  You crammed it yesterday.

• 17:44Speaker 00

  I crammed it. Loved it.

• 17:46Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 17:47Speaker 00

  You are like a product of like a matriarchy. You have grown up around women, sisters, your mothers.

• 17:53Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 17:53Speaker 00

  Huge part of your life.

• 17:54Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 17:55Speaker 00

  And your comedy.

• 17:56Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. I don't know what it is. I think it's, um, the, um, the hang with the boys is so funny. I laugh so much with my boys. But like a hang with women is just so, um, it's funny, but it's also like mentally challenging and...

• 18:13Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, I mean, we're...

• 18:14Speaker 02

  Emotional. You're learning about yourself.

• 18:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:17Speaker 02

  I have a lot of lesbian friends too that I, that I really connect with.

• 18:21Speaker 00

  Yes, they like, like...

• 18:22Speaker 02

  Cause I'm a lesbian in many ways.

• 18:24Speaker 00

  Ooh, say more. What do you mean?

• 18:25Speaker 02

  Do you know what I mean? Cause I grew up around women, so I'm kind of a woman in some ways. I get jealous. I get petty. I do. I get jealous and petty.

• 18:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:32Speaker 02

  My girlfriend has to deal with that. I do. I get weird. I go, I didn't like that. I say that sometimes. I go, I didn't like that. I go, when you did that? I didn't like that.

• 18:43Speaker 00

  Oh, I love that.

• 18:44Speaker 02

  And it made me feel bad. And I hope that...

• 18:47Speaker 00

  In the future?

• 18:48Speaker 02

  In the future, when you are in a situation where you could do something like that, that you'll act differently for my sake. I talk like that sometimes.

• 18:57Speaker 00

  That's really good communicating, by the way.

• 18:58Speaker 02

  My mom has really trained me.

• 19:00Speaker 00

  Have you ever been to therapy?

• 19:01Speaker 02

  Um, a little bit. I've, I've experimented.

• 19:04Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 19:04Speaker 02

  Sports psychology I liked.

• 19:06Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, I wanna talk about that because you are a big, you're a jock.

• 19:09Speaker 02

  I'm a jock, yeah.

• 19:10Speaker 00

  And, you know, I can tell from the way that you like, like you love a team.

• 19:15Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 19:16Speaker 00

  And like that is the thing I have to say, like when, in, in figuring out like what to talk to you about today. Like I, when I was around you and got to be at SNL when you were there, you can tell right away the people that like to have fun. And I know that sounds so stupid and simple, but it's easily forgotten.

• 19:33Speaker 02

  Right.

• 19:33Speaker 00

  At any job.

• 19:34Speaker 02

  Right.

• 19:34Speaker 00

  It's like, okay, I got the job now, like, and then all you think about is like losing the job or the job sucks or the job's hard or whatever. You forget the fun part. Cause, and there's something about you that really radiates a lot of fun.

• 19:46Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 19:46Speaker 00

  And you love being part of a team.

• 19:48Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 19:48Speaker 00

  Like you like the team to win.

• 19:49Speaker 02

  Yes, and I don't like to work. Like, in, in like, in a very, like a positive way. I work very hard in my life.

• 19:57Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 19:57Speaker 02

  But I don't like to work.

• 19:58Speaker 00

  Right.

• 19:59Speaker 02

  Working is bad and weird.

• 20:00Speaker 00

  Right.

• 20:01Speaker 02

  So everything but work is always usually my goal when I'm working. I got a scooter. My girlfriend had a foot injury. She had a scooter. I got her a new scooter. And then the old scooter, I took it to work. Now there's a scooter at work. Now if you gotta go to the bathroom, you jump on the scooter.

• 20:15Speaker 00

  Oh, that's fun.

• 20:15Speaker 02

  You're there in a couple of minutes. Now people are scooting up and down the halls. That's fun.

• 20:19Speaker 00

  That's fun.

• 20:20Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 20:20Speaker 00

  God, I love that.

• 20:21Speaker 02

  Sometimes I do seal. Do you know seal? With that long table that we do table read in?

• 20:25Speaker 00

  Where you slide across?

• 20:26Speaker 02

  I run through that hallway and then I seal and see if I can get fully across.

• 20:31Speaker 00

  Okay, you know who did a version of Seal many, many years before you? It's Jimmy Fallon.

• 20:37Speaker 02

  Of course. That's my kinda guy.

• 20:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:40Speaker 02

  That's my kinda guy.

• 20:41Speaker 00

  He is.

• 20:41Speaker 02

  The other thing that I love about not working or like trying not to work is, uh, this is like, maybe this is a sick thing for me.

• 20:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:47Speaker 02

  But, um, looking in the eyes of someone who's trying to work, who you are not letting to work, the frustration. It brings me joy in a way that's dark.

• 21:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  Um, and then they'll do it to me sometimes and then I can laugh and understand it.

• 21:06Speaker 00

  Okay, you talk about, okay...

• 21:10Speaker 02

  It's just you have to know sometimes.

• 21:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, everything here is fake.

• 21:14Speaker 02

  Love when something, cause you imagine how dirty I would get with syrup? You know syrup is so gross and it stays on you forever?

• 21:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, but that doesn't, it's all nice.

• 21:22Speaker 02

  And then you just get the joy of trying, but without happening. Sorry.

• 21:25Speaker 00

  Um, you, okay, you, uh, focus up.

• 21:27Speaker 02

  Sorry.

• 21:28Speaker 00

  Okay, so you...

• 21:32Speaker 02

  Who wants to have some fun on the Amy Poehler Show today?

• 21:38Speaker 02

  You're trying to work, aren't you? You're trying to work, girl. I have some questions I've prepared. No gracias.

• 21:44Speaker 00

  I'm trying to work.

• 21:46Speaker 02

  What's over here?

• 21:47Speaker 00

  I'm doing.

• 21:47Speaker 02

  Your phone is dirty, girl. Look at that thing.

• 21:53Speaker 02

  Dirty ass phone, Amy Poehler, on the 115th floor of the Spotify building. Crazy. This is an old phone. It doesn't even work.

• 22:04Speaker 00

  It doesn't even.

• 22:04Speaker 02

  It doesn't even turn on.

• 22:06Speaker 00

  It's turned off, you dumbass.

• 22:10Speaker 00

  Because we're recording.

• 22:11Speaker 02

  Of course, of course it is, of course. Meanwhile, my butt's vibrating.

• 22:14Speaker 00

  Listen. You do this bit in your stand-up, which is so funny to me. When you're talking about your mom making you dance. What I love about it is not only because you love to dance. I love to dance. And I like, I wonder if you have a relationship to your, like, you love to move around.

• 22:33Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 22:34Speaker 00

  You like, you're an energy guy. From, and from a, from a young age, you were that way. Did your mom know that you were that kind of kid from an early age? And she would get you into sports and moving and dancing because she knew you had to, you had to get it out?

• 22:48Speaker 02

  Yes, 100%, 100%. My parents' goals always, throughout my life, was to get me tired. Does that make sense?

• 22:59Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 22:59Speaker 02

  So all the activities I ever did were always with the ultimate goal of will he go to sleep? And it was tough because there's a lot, there's a lot of batteries in here. Understand? So I started playing baseball and then baseball, I was in outfield. And first of all, pants, right? In the sun.

• 23:17Speaker 00

  So hot.

• 23:18Speaker 02

  For what?

• 23:18Speaker 00

  And long socks.

• 23:19Speaker 02

  For what? We're in Miami, wearing pants in the sun. This sport doesn't make sense.

• 23:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, people don't know you grew up in Miami.

• 23:24Speaker 02

  Yes, of course. So I was playing baseball and the ball would never come to where I was because they had me in the outfield. And then, so apparently according to my family, I don't remember doing this, but I was doing cartwheels in the, in the outfield and playing with insects and stuff. And so they took me out. My mom said, gee, I gotta take you out of baseball because you're kind of making us look bad as a family.

• 23:43Speaker 00

  Too much downtime out there.

• 23:45Speaker 02

  We're Hispanic, you're half Cuban, half Dominican. They were like, this kid will be good. And then you're a nuisance. So then I did soccer. And soccer is a perfect sport for a child with ADD that's unmedicated and with a lot of energy because the ball never stops moving.

• 23:59Speaker 00

  Oh, so much running.

• 23:59Speaker 02

  It's so much running. You get home, you are tired.

• 24:02Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 24:03Speaker 02

  And so soccer became my love.

• 24:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:05Speaker 02

  Because I was like, it's a constant thing. I would get so exhausted on the field.

• 24:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:10Speaker 02

  And then my parents liked it. And then I played that, you know, until college.

• 24:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, you were a really good player.

• 24:13Speaker 02

  I was good, yeah.

• 24:14Speaker 00

  You went to college to play it.

• 24:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, I did.

• 24:16Speaker 00

  And like when, when, what was the, what, first of all, what was your position?

• 24:21Speaker 02

  I was in the, I was a winger.

• 24:22Speaker 00

  Uh huh.

• 24:22Speaker 02

  Which is the guy that have to run all the way up and then all the way down.

• 24:25Speaker 00

  A lot of running, a lot of running. And you, and when you were, you, you, you mentioned your dad's Dominican, your mom's Cuban. I love when you talk about the differences culturally between those two things.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 24:34Speaker 00

  What, what is like the, what are the biggest? I know they're stereotypical, but they're oftentimes very true. Like the difference between those two cultures? Because you're in the middle of both.

• 24:43Speaker 02

  The food is pretty much the same. Cuban is more salsa. And then Dominican Republic, they do merengue and bachata. So bachata is one, two, three, stop. One, two, three, stop. And then salsa is like a crazy, my foot goes there, your foot leaves. My, my foot returns, your foot leaves. It's more like math. And then the way they talk is different. So like, for example, in Cuban Spanish, there's like a,

• 25:08Speaker 02

  hoy chico lo que está pasando es que nosotros somos de Cuba. Y en Cuba nosotros hablamos wow, wow, wow, wow, like that. And in Dominican Republic, it's a little higher and faster. So it's like, y nosotros los dominicanos somos un tipo de persona que como que nosotros no metemos en problemas si no hay problemas. Yo no quiero problemas, yo me quiero salir del problema. And then Cuban is like, no, Bobby, yo no puedo dar, me tío, yo no puedo dar me tío algo, algo que me va a reflexionar negativamente. Entonces yo me voy a quitar, me voy a quitar de esa cosa. And then Dominican will be like, no, yo no puedo estar ahí, yo no me voy a meter ahí. Yo no me meto ahí. Yo no, yo, yo no estoy loco. Yo puedo dar que tengo par de cositas que yo hago mal, pero yo no estoy loco. And that is kind of the difference.

• 25:48Speaker 00

  But what's so amazing about that is you're making music to me because I can't speak Spanish. And the music, the Dominican music sounds like New York.

• 25:57Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 25:57Speaker 00

  Because so many Dominicans in New York. Fast. And the Cuban music sounds like Desi.

• 26:03Speaker 02

  Right.

• 26:04Speaker 00

  That's what we, that's who we knew. When we were growing up, Desi Arnaz was the only Cuban that we were, like, we knew. Did your family watch I Love Lucy or care? Or did your parents have any, like, did they care about Desi? Do you, did you?

• 26:16Speaker 02

  My mom's personality can be very Lucy sometimes. My mom is like, my mom would always say, my mom came from Cuba and it was difficult because they took her stuff. You know, Cuba, the communist government. And so when she came to America, she, she really leaned in to being American. Like, for years, she would tell us, we're all gonna change our last name to Smith.

• 26:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 26:39Speaker 02

  Because she was like, I'm American now, I don't want to be Cuban anymore.

• 26:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, a lot of people wanted to assimilate.

• 26:43Speaker 02

  And they didn't want to be like, she didn't want, she was so like, sad and embarrassed of what happened in Cuba that she wanted to be fully American. So she would say stuff, you know, like, blondes have a more fun. And I am just a dumb blonde. Like, she would say that all the time.

• 26:58Speaker 00

  Right.

• 26:59Speaker 02

  Because she just thought it was, you know, being American was that.

• 27:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:02Speaker 02

  And she, she loves I Love Lucy. She loves like, you know, having fun. My mom is like a, my mom has a little bit of Yorkie energy sometimes. And then also she can be very tough and hard.

• 27:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:16Speaker 02

  And, yeah.

• 27:18Speaker 00

  Okay, but I want to talk about your soccer part because, okay, you're getting, how do you get to college from, with soccer?

• 27:24Speaker 02

  Girl, so the other thing too is the pressure of your friends. Like, you always want to look good to your friends and to your family. And so I was like, I need to play college soccer because I've worked so hard at soccer. All my friends know me as a soccer guy. So if I don't play college soccer, that's bad.

• 27:37Speaker 00

  Right.

• 27:38Speaker 02

  So I emailed every school. I was sending emails.

• 27:41Speaker 00

  Did you have recruiters coming to you?

• 27:42Speaker 02

  I edited my own videos. I did play in all these tournaments. And then the school in Ohio, John Carroll, and the school in California, Occidental. They both wanted me to play there. And they were like, you know, we can figure out some sort of academic scholarship. And then my mom said, you can't go to California because you'll be too far. And I don't know what you will do when you are that far. And if I can't go see you easily, that'll be a problem. So she didn't let me go to California. But she let me go to Ohio. And then right before I went to college, my senior year, my drama teacher asked me to memorize a monologue.

• 28:14Speaker 00

  You had never performed before?

• 28:16Speaker 02

  I learned a John Leguizamo monologue and a monologue from class action. And it was.

• 28:21Speaker 00

  John Leguizamo used to have some really great.

• 28:23Speaker 02

  Mambo mouth.

• 28:23Speaker 00

  Mambo mouth.

• 28:24Speaker 02

  She calls me chocolate eyes. I call her my albino beaver. It was crazy. It was about a Cuban cabana boy meeting a white woman at a hotel and falling in love.

• 28:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. And your teacher recommended that you do that. Really interesting. So they saw something in you, like, yeah.

• 28:41Speaker 02

  He goes, if you do this, I'll get you out of school for like three days. I'll take you to Tampa and you'll compete in this thing.

• 28:47Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 28:48Speaker 02

  And I went and I won. I was the best monologue, contrasting monologues. Because it was funny because it was like, the first one was about, the first one was so sad and very real about a gang member that hid his gun under his bed and his little brother found it and shot himself. And so that's the first monologue. And then I go, he shouldn't have done that. He shouldn't, he shouldn't have gone into my room. And then I get up.

• 29:18Speaker 02

  Hello.

• 29:21Speaker 02

  It is me, Ramon, the Cuban cabana boy. And then that, then you get into this thing about having sex with an old American woman.

• 29:30Speaker 00

  And but it goes, it goes to show that people love to laugh, man.

• 29:35Speaker 02

  They love to laugh. And you gotta do that one second. You can't, you can't do that one first. And so when I did that, I felt like, oh, I like performing. I like being in front of people. That was like the first time I really felt like, this was cool. That was cool what I did.

• 29:50Speaker 00

  You must have, when you were younger, been told a lot, like, you're funny. You like, you like, you're like a good performer, Marcelo. Like, they must have known that you had this extroverted personality.

• 29:59Speaker 02

  In school, they call that excessive talking mischief.

• 30:02Speaker 00

  Exactly, that's right. We have a lot of people in here who talk about like the one, there's just like one or two teachers that said, hey, like, Ryan Coogler was here and he had a professor like encourage him to write a screenplay. And like, people that just say like, you should, you should try this thing. I see something in you.

• 30:18Speaker 02

  And I get so much joy from taking teachers to SNL. I've taken quite a few teachers to SNL. So this guy, the first guy that taught me how to write a script is this script guy named Bob Knoll at my college. And he told me, what's your favorite comedy movie right now? And I go, I love The Forty Year Old Virgin. He goes, I want you to write the same, write that movie, but change something about it. And so I wrote The Forty Year Old Virgin, but the main character is a woman.

• 30:44Speaker 00

  Uh huh.

• 30:45Speaker 02

  And.

• 30:46Speaker 00

  A part for a woman, thank you, Marcelo, finally.

• 30:48Speaker 02

  Well, I have it. You could, you would be perfect for it. Oh my God, we should make it. And so I brought him to SNL and he got to hang out. And then I had, I had a theology teacher who Mr. Franzie is based on. That she's like, you know, my body is full of alloy bera because I was burned from my toes until my head. And Angie, and so I love her, and so I brought her to SNL. And then the coolest one was, so my freshman or sophomore year, I took a fundamentals of Shakespearean performance class.

• 31:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:24Speaker 02

  And there was this guy, Bo Smith and his partner, Tom Roche. And they were this lovely gay couple and they were so fun and cool. And they had this class and they'd like, you can perform whatever you want. And then one day, everyone's gonna try some Shakespeare. And so people were doing, you know, monologues from famous movies, you know, Wolf of Wall Street or whatever. And then one day he noticed like, everybody was acting kind of like soft. You know, like they weren't really giving it up for him. And he goes, and he's like, you know, in his late 60s at the time, maybe. And so he goes, well, if you're not gonna show me what I want to see, then maybe I'll show you myself. And he's in his late 60s and takes off his tie, puts it down, takes off a necklace, puts it down, and gets up. And he goes, I will be performing King Lear.

• 32:11Speaker 02

  And he just goes, he goes, ah, ah, yeah, he gets on his knees, he starts screaming and nah, just goes crazy. And everybody's like, oh my god. And then it changed us completely. Like, everyone started to really give it to him and perform and um, I uh,

• 32:30Speaker 00

  What did you do?

• 32:30Speaker 02

  I did, oh, I did a bunch of crazy stuff in his class. I did whatever he wanted. And then I started performing my stand-up for him. I would write little stand-up and do it in his class. And then I took his class again. And then um, they were let go from the school, the two guys. And it was heartbreaking because I was like, you guys are the greatest. I just want to see you be good and whatever.

• 32:51Speaker 02

  And so now, all these years later, the college has called me back and they're like, what do you want to do? Like, you want, you should do something for the school, you know, and I go, okay, great. Let's start a scholarship. So I started a scholarship at my school, at the college I went to. And um, it's for kids that want to do what I did. And it's, and it's called the Bo and Tom uh, scholarship. By Marcelo Hernandez. And so now, all these scholarship recipients, so far we've had two, they meet with me and Bo. Because Tom has passed. And they meet with me and Bo, and they get to meet Bo and like, he tells them all the stories. And he's a fascinating guy. And I found him in Cleveland, Ohio.

• 33:27Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 33:28Speaker 02

  So I have, you know, so much love for those teachers. And also Bo, uh, the teacher that told me to memorize that monologue, he came to SNL with his wife and his son. I gave him a full tour. So I love, I, I, I'm, the, the full circle moment.

• 33:41Speaker 00

  They must be so,

• 33:42Speaker 02

  Of like, that is priceless.

• 33:44Speaker 00

  That's awesome. Have you?

• 33:46Speaker 02

  Did you have a teacher?

• 33:47Speaker 00

  I had a few. I had a few, like, uh, like a lot of English teachers that told me I was a good writer. Or like, we had a really good um, drama teacher who, like, we just put on really good productions in our school and stuff. My, I feel like my teachers came a little later when I like started improvising, doing sketch in Chicago, like teachers who like, basically just like treated me like somebody who could do this as a job, which I never thought I could do.

• 34:13Speaker 02

  And you um,

• 34:14Speaker 00

  You never,

• 34:14Speaker 02

  You founded.

• 34:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay, but,

• 34:17Speaker 02

  Hold on.

• 34:17Speaker 00

  Okay, no, no, no, but,

• 34:18Speaker 02

  You founded.

• 34:19Speaker 00

  But did you ever do,

• 34:20Speaker 02

  An institution.

• 34:22Speaker 00

  Did you ever do sketch?

• 34:23Speaker 02

  You're the founder of an, of a comedic institution. Does that register to you?

• 34:30Speaker 00

  Okay, Marcelo, back to you.

• 34:31Speaker 02

  Do you know how many opportunities you created by doing that?

• 34:35Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 34:35Speaker 02

  Do you know how much you gave back?

• 34:36Speaker 00

  We're in college with you now. We're back to college.

• 34:40Speaker 02

  Like, because there's so many people that have been good comedic actresses and that have done great shows and have grown. But how many of those people have founded an instituush for people to grow and come out of? How many alumni?

• 34:57Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 34:58Speaker 02

  Have you to thank?

• 34:59Speaker 00

  Okay, so listen.

• 35:01Speaker 02

  I mean, it's just something to behold.

• 35:04Speaker 00

  Let's go back to Ohio.

• 35:09Speaker 00

  Did you ever do sketch, speaking of sketch and improv? Did you ever do?

• 35:12Speaker 02

  God, you're impressive. I mean, a fascinating woman.

• 35:16Speaker 00

  Marcelo!

• 35:17Speaker 02

  Sorry. Just, I'm, I'm impressed, apologize. And let me say, your computer's banged up, the phone is all dirty.

• 35:25Speaker 00

  Leave me, leave me, this is so Gen Z of you.

• 35:28Speaker 02

  Castle.

• 35:28Speaker 00

  This is so,

• 35:29Speaker 02

  In a castle on a throne with a brand-new computer.

• 35:33Speaker 00

  You know, I do agree. I do agree.

• 35:35Speaker 02

  Give her the new stuff, man. Give her all the new stuff. She's got dance on the computer. I feel like getting into Sebastian.

• 35:43Speaker 00

  You are a little getting into,

• 35:44Speaker 02

  The computer looks like it was thrown off a truck. Pick it up, Amy Poehn. The phone looks like it has been in the mouth of a toddler. It's sticky. It's sticky.

• 36:06Speaker 00

  Oh my god, Marcelo.

• 36:08Speaker 02

  Oh my god, I'm sorry.

• 36:08Speaker 00

  Sebastian, we interviewed him. It was so fun. We did it in front of a live audience.

• 36:13Speaker 02

  I need to stop doing him because,

• 36:14Speaker 00

  He's so fun to do. I bet, you're so good at it. Also, you've got, really got his physicality down.

• 36:22Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 36:22Speaker 00

  And is it true that you did like a back handspring when you did him or like a backflip at some point?

• 36:26Speaker 02

  Some crazy stuff, yeah.

• 36:27Speaker 00

  I want to talk about that.

• 36:28Speaker 02

  Thank god.

• 36:28Speaker 00

  Okay, but just,

• 36:29Speaker 02

  We're in Ohio.

• 36:30Speaker 00

  Okay, you quit, you quit soccer. You're like, I gotta do stand-up. Was that sad?

• 36:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:37Speaker 00

  Well, the team must have been bummed.

• 36:39Speaker 02

  They were ba, they were bummed. And more disappointed in me for giving up on them. Because I couldn't do both. I was doing a lot of stand-up. I won an amateur compet, I got good, like,

• 36:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:49Speaker 02

  I didn't get really good fast, but I got like, okay, very fast.

• 36:54Speaker 00

  Yeah. Because you're a hustler, you know how to,

• 36:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I was doing a lot of sets. And then I won an amateur competition, five hundred bucks to host at the Funny Stop Comedy Club in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio. And I go, oh, I'm the real deal.

• 37:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:06Speaker 02

  And then, um, so I had to quit because I was like, I want to pursue this. I think I could be good at it.

• 37:11Speaker 00

  What did your mom think?

• 37:12Speaker 02

  She, she was excited about it. She was like, I think this is what you're supposed to do. And she also never understood soccer. She's like, it's too fast and people kick you and I don't want you to be kicked. And then my dad was like, you shouldn't quit. I think you could be a good soccer player. My stepdad was also very supportive.

• 37:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:28Speaker 02

  And then, um, when I quit, this is when like, like, this is like a balls-dropping moment. Is, um, when I quit, I was crying and I told the coaches I quit. And they were like, great, we get it, you know? Obviously, we'll miss you on the team, but um, we're not going to tell the team. You are going to go downstairs right now. Clean your face up, do whatever you have to do. And then go tell the boys that you're quitting the team. And so I was like, I'm so sorry, guys. I just can't, I want to do something, I want to do comedy. And um, I just think you guys are going to do great and I'm just sorry and I love you guys. And then I just had to shake the hands of like twenty-seven guys.

• 38:07Speaker 00

  You had to good game it for those guys.

• 38:09Speaker 02

  And like, most of them were like, that's so weird. And then, you know, a couple of them were like, I love you, buddy, good luck, whatever.

• 38:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:17Speaker 02

  But that also, also lit a fire

• 38:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:20Speaker 02

  Under my butt.

• 38:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, and, and then you, Just for Laughs is what gets you the SNL audition?

• 38:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:25Speaker 00

  Just for Laughs is a comedy festival. You go up there, you do really well, you get seen, you get the audition. What is your audition story? Everybody has an SNL audition story. What's yours?

• 38:35Speaker 02

  So, dude, I've never been so nervous. Like, I was, I was hosting at the Stand Comedy Club every, almost every, every night at the time. I was a host. So I wasn't, I, I, I realized that you could get way more spots on shows if you just host.

• 38:52Speaker 00

  Right.

• 38:53Speaker 02

  You could do your stand-up. And it's tough because you're doing a cold open, but you can do stand-up way more times than you can just do a spot. If you say, I'll host. So I was like, I'll host everything. And then I get this thing for JFL. I go to JFL. It's my six-minute set. If you watch it back, I'm shaking. Like, if you just watch it, like, focus on my hands and stuff. I am fully like shaking up there for the whole six minutes because I was really, really scared. I had to look myself in the mirror before and be like, you just gotta do this, you gotta do this. And then after that, I got the SNL audition. I go to the audition thing. I do a bunch of jokes about how my mom escaped communism and that I can't complain and that, whatever. And then I call my mom after and I go, mom, I don't know. Because they didn't laugh that hard because it's at like UCB.

• 39:38Speaker 02

  And like, I think, I think some people there, they don't think because communism is that bad. Like, and so I feel scared that they think I'm like some right-wing nut. And she's like, it's okay, Marcelo, they understand your message. It's okay. I'm like, whatever. Then I got the call back. And then um, I uh, I got the call back and um, I put headphones in and I listened to Always Be My Baby by Mariah Carey. But uh, by Brass Tracks. So it's like a lot of sax. It's so good. And um, I'm blasting it in my ears while I wait. Because they make you wait, and on repeat, over and over again, the same song.

• 40:15Speaker 00

  While you're in the dressing room at Thirty Rock.

• 40:17Speaker 02

  Yes. And so I'm in there like this, back to the door. And then um, the only thing I hear is, at one point, I hear,

• 40:27Speaker 02

  and I turn around and a woman has been there for like a few minutes, trying to call my attention. Sam uh, Miner, who's a talent on the talent team. And um, I'm like, oh, okay, sorry. And then someone told me I had to get makeup on. And I was like, I don't think so. And they're like, oh, you should get some makeup on.

• 40:45Speaker 02

  And then I got some makeup on, and then I went out.

• 40:47Speaker 00

  First time ever getting makeup on, probably?

• 40:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, for sure. And then no one laughed. Um, somebody coughed. And then my mom, I called my mom and I'm like, I don't know.

• 40:56Speaker 00

  Notoriously quiet.

• 40:58Speaker 02

  Cold room.

• 40:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, cold room.

• 41:00Speaker 02

  And then um, that's it. And then a few weeks later, I got the call that I got the job. And I was like, this is awesome.

• 41:06Speaker 00

  Where were you when you got the call? Do you remember?

• 41:08Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, I was like at my apartment. Um, my friend's apartment that I was living in. And um, I called my mom and then we cried for a bit. And then I was like, I'm going to make a million dollars.

• 41:25Speaker 02

  And then it turns out that you don't make that.

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• 44:09Speaker 00

  You're like the first Gen Z cast member, technically.

• 44:12Speaker 02

  Is that true?

• 44:13Speaker 00

  Do you identify as Gen Z?

• 44:15Speaker 02

  No, because I'm too close. I'm not far enough removed from the immigrant struggle.

• 44:21Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 44:21Speaker 02

  To like truly enjoy my Gen Z life. Because you had this great thing that I saw when I watched the show, which I do quite often, where you say like millennials only care about money.

• 44:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, boomers only care about money.

• 44:37Speaker 02

  Millennials are like, where's the money?

• 44:39Speaker 00

  Well, don't skip over Gen X. Everybody does.

• 44:41Speaker 02

  Gen X.

• 44:42Speaker 00

  Boomers only care about money. Gen X is like, should we only care about money? Millennials are like, where's the money?

• 44:50Speaker 02

  And Gen Z is like, what is money? Right? And so I am like...

• 44:55Speaker 00

  You're the where is the money?

• 44:56Speaker 02

  I, no, I only care about the, I'm a boomer.

• 44:59Speaker 00

  So you're a boomer?

• 44:59Speaker 02

  I'm a boomer.

• 45:00Speaker 00

  I see.

• 45:00Speaker 02

  Because I think Gen Z plus immigrant struggle equals boomer.

• 45:05Speaker 00

  Yes, yes.

• 45:06Speaker 02

  I'm a young boomer in many ways.

• 45:08Speaker 00

  Young boomer.

• 45:09Speaker 02

  I didn't get to have mental health.

• 45:11Speaker 00

  Right.

• 45:11Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 45:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:12Speaker 02

  So that's boomer vibes.

• 45:14Speaker 00

  You're right.

• 45:14Speaker 02

  And my mom is probably a boomer. What's a boomer?

• 45:18Speaker 00

  No, your mom is Gen X. Your mom is my age.

• 45:21Speaker 02

  But my mom is a boomer because of the immigrant thing.

• 45:24Speaker 00

  Well, when you say the immigrant thing, it's like because you're first gen, you just feel this need to like, you just cannot complain about the same stuff that...

• 45:30Speaker 02

  Can't complain. Nothing is real. Everything is just...

• 45:33Speaker 00

  But what about you is Gen Z? Because I think there are a few Gen Z things.

• 45:37Speaker 02

  I'm really good on the phone. I mean, I can do whatever you need on the phone.

• 45:40Speaker 00

  Except for texting.

• 45:41Speaker 02

  I can reset everything. Texting is bad. That's a Gen Z thing, probably, too.

• 45:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, big time.

• 45:45Speaker 02

  Not answering.

• 45:46Speaker 00

  There's like a nonjudgmental vibe sometimes to Gen Z that you can feel, where they're like, whatever, do your thing.

• 45:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I have some of that.

• 45:54Speaker 00

  You do, you, I feel like that.

• 45:55Speaker 02

  And my sister is like definition of Gen Z.

• 45:57Speaker 00

  Uh huh, she's younger than you?

• 45:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, but she's an architect, and she's now doing interior design, and she's so quiet and so reserved. And then, but also she has her moments with her friends where she like is like fun and talkative.

• 46:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:10Speaker 02

  But she's like in our house, she's like the quieter one.

• 46:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:13Speaker 02

  And that's my, that's a theory my mom has, that if the first child you have is insane, that the next one will be quiet. She says that.

• 46:22Speaker 00

  That probably is true.

• 46:23Speaker 02

  The other day, we went to my friend Lila's house, and her baby is so nice and sweet and quiet, and she goes, the next one is gonna be a disaster. And I think it could be real. Do you have, how many do you have now?

• 46:33Speaker 00

  I have two, two boys.

• 46:34Speaker 02

  I met your boys.

• 46:35Speaker 00

  You did. They were very excited to meet you.

• 46:37Speaker 02

  They're cute boys, dude. You got some good boys.

• 46:39Speaker 00

  Well, you know, they're at the age now where they're watching SNL, and they want to see people that look like, like them. They want to see people their age.

• 46:47Speaker 02

  Right.

• 46:48Speaker 00

  And they want to like, you know, there's nothing like, even if you're on SNL, your kids just don't want to watch like classic old, they're just like, I want to watch people that look like me. That's what SNL is about, is this feeling that like, young people are in charge over there.

• 47:03Speaker 02

  Your relationship with like Maya and Dratch, and it's so cool and so awesome. Dratch makes me laugh in a way that I can't even explain, and the way that she laughs...

• 47:15Speaker 00

  Her laugh.

• 47:16Speaker 02

  Is priceless.

• 47:17Speaker 00

  It is, it's like magic.

• 47:19Speaker 02

  And the headphones thing.

• 47:21Speaker 00

  Who's the best laugh, oh, no, the headphones.

• 47:23Speaker 02

  It's like, I can't, it was so good.

• 47:26Speaker 00

  Fucking so good.

• 47:27Speaker 02

  She's like, I can't, I can't figure it out.

• 47:29Speaker 00

  Incredible, I owe Dratch so much money for that.

• 47:31Speaker 02

  She's so funny.

• 47:32Speaker 00

  Domingo was a huge hit, like, congrats on having a recurring, like, you need something sometimes.

• 47:39Speaker 02

  I had nothing to do with that. God gave me that. God and Kira O'Sullivan and Jimmy.

• 47:43Speaker 00

  Kira and Jimmy wrote it, right?

• 47:44Speaker 02

  They gave me that.

• 47:45Speaker 00

  And they're, Kira O'Sullivan and Jimmy Foley, great writers like at SNL, like so important to that show.

• 47:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:51Speaker 00

  Write so many monologues, write so many pieces. And, and why do you think, is it, why do you think that sketch just took off? I mean, is it just the bad singing?

• 47:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:00Speaker 00

  What is it that makes that so delicious, that sketch?

• 48:02Speaker 02

  I think Ariana Grande is so good.

• 48:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:06Speaker 02

  We wa, like, watching her at a table is mind, it's mind-blowing.

• 48:10Speaker 00

  She's so talented.

• 48:10Speaker 02

  She sings so crazy. And then, her doing it bad...

• 48:16Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 48:17Speaker 02

  Is so hard.

• 48:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:19Speaker 02

  To like sing bad.

• 48:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:21Speaker 02

  On purpose.

• 48:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:23Speaker 02

  And she does it so good, it's so funny. So that, that gets you through the first part of the sketch.

• 48:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:29Speaker 02

  And like, the girls were so funny, Heidi and Ego and all of them coming in after are so funny, and, and Sarah and everybody, and then, and then, at the end, they're talking about this guy the whole time, and you're like, all right, well, now there has to be a reveal. And then I come out, like, in a little goatee and like a version of my hair, and then I sing what I still feel is a very catchy tune.

• 48:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, catchy tune.

• 48:59Speaker 02

  Of just, um, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, vinto. And then I think that's what happened.

• 49:08Speaker 00

  Well, it's espresso, it's, it's not just a catchy tune, it's a very popular pop song.

• 49:11Speaker 02

  It's huge. One of the biggest pop songs of the, of our time.

• 49:17Speaker 00

  Some could argue.

• 49:17Speaker 02

  Of the time that we are in.

• 49:18Speaker 00

  Some could argue, yeah.

• 49:19Speaker 02

  And so I think that it was just a perfect storm, and then I think it's very SNL for the audience to reward the guy that did the least.

• 49:31Speaker 00

  Yes, yes.

• 49:32Speaker 02

  In the sketch.

• 49:32Speaker 00

  It's called that.

• 49:33Speaker 02

  Did nothing, pretty much. Came in for three seconds, and that's the thing.

• 49:37Speaker 00

  But I'm just gonna, I'm gonna praise you for a little bit, because...

• 49:44Speaker 02

  Praise from Amy Poehler.

• 49:45Speaker 00

  Get ready, Marcelo.

• 49:46Speaker 02

  Founder.

• 49:47Speaker 00

  Because that, that is a perfect example, that is a perfect example of, you enter that sketch having fun, like, you're enjoying it like we're enjoying it, and you're like ease in coming into it, and you do this with most of the stuff that you do. Like, you don't let us forget when you're performing, like, can you believe we're all watching this? This is like comedy, like, how did we all get here? How did you get in the audience? How did I get? Like, it's very, very infectious. Like, I always say, like, I always want people to seem relaxed. I don't really care if they have the best jokes, or if they're the funniest, I just want them to seem like they're having a good time and they're relaxed, and I can't. Nothing makes me more stressed than when I can feel like the mirror neurons of like someone else's stress.

• 50:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, I feel that.

• 50:30Speaker 00

  And you always do that on the show. You, like, you act like you've always been there, like, everything is super fun.

• 50:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:37Speaker 00

  And...

• 50:38Speaker 02

  That's the power of fear.

• 50:39Speaker 00

  Interesting.

• 50:40Speaker 02

  That's the power of fear.

• 50:41Speaker 00

  What do you mean? How do you, you do fake it?

• 50:43Speaker 02

  You're so scared, probably, you're just so scared of it going wrong, that you're like, if it goes wrong, I'm gonna go wrong swinging to the rafters.

• 50:52Speaker 00

  Right.

• 50:53Speaker 02

  So like, I just go absolutely insane. My biggest note at dress is calm down, because there's some stuff you guys haven't seen, where I really lose it out there.

• 51:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:05Speaker 02

  Not like in a bad way, but like...

• 51:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, you push it.

• 51:07Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, there was a thing about, uh, there was a thing that we did that, it came out on the show about, with Coleman Domingo, where he's a teacher.

• 51:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:16Speaker 02

  And he's like, nothing matters, um, come up with a number. And I'm like, eleven, eleven, T, four? And then, um, and then, uh, he's like, and who would be, who would be, uh, you know, a number bigger than, whatever the question was, and then I get up and I go, ah, ah, ah, eleven, T, two! And I did it so big, that all the writers were like...

• 51:40Speaker 00

  Marcelo.

• 51:41Speaker 02

  Just, fuck, just, please, just stop. And, um, that's a note that's chased me my whole life. Since kindergarten.

• 51:52Speaker 00

  Just bring it down, just, but I...

• 51:54Speaker 02

  Just stop.

• 51:55Speaker 00

  But that is my favorite kind of note, though, because the opposite is way worse.

• 52:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, right. Well, I can't do the opposite, I can't.

• 52:02Speaker 00

  Um, you have done so many funny things on the show. Your stuff with Bad Bunny has been so funny, and Pedro.

• 52:07Speaker 02

  So grateful.

• 52:07Speaker 00

  So much good stuff, and...

• 52:09Speaker 02

  Who was your bad bunny? Who was the guy, the person that came to the show?

• 52:12Speaker 00

  Okay, well, we'll get to me in a second.

• 52:14Speaker 02

  Okay. How long are we gonna be here? Let's do like four hours, and then you find what's good.

• 52:18Speaker 00

  But, but what, but do you feel like you're funnier, and that's...

• 52:22Speaker 02

  What's up?

• 52:22Speaker 00

  That's a timer up there, and that says how long we've been going.

• 52:25Speaker 02

  We've been over an hour?

• 52:26Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 52:26Speaker 02

  No.

• 52:27Speaker 00

  So I have so many more questions.

• 52:28Speaker 02

  I want to hang out. I'm not leaving, how about that? What will you do, turn the cameras off?

• 52:36Speaker 00

  Okay, Bad Bunny, wait. Do you think you're funnier and do you think, do you, do you think you're funnier in Spanish?

• 52:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:45Speaker 00

  Okay, do you think in Spanish?

• 52:47Speaker 04

  I'm fast in Spanish.

• 52:49Speaker 00

  Fast in Spanish, and you write in Spanish?

• 52:51Speaker 04

  Um, sometimes, yeah, so I've been doing stand-up in Spanish, I've been doing a little touring in Spanish.

• 52:56Speaker 00

  Oh, that's cool.

• 52:56Speaker 04

  And it is so fun.

• 52:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:59Speaker 04

  My family, my girlfriend, my, my dad, they think that I'm better in Spanish, which is offensive.

• 53:09Speaker 00

  What do you think is the difference? Just the facility of the language?

• 53:12Speaker 04

  I guess, I think, um, Spanish comedy is interesting because, um, it's developing, there's so many good young comedians that are doing it in Spanish. Uh, Angelo Colina is one that travels with me, or has done, you know, shows with me.

• 53:27Speaker 04

  Laura Bolivar has done a bunch of shows with me here, Santi Espinoza, uh, Pedro Gonzalez, um, and, uh, Sofia, eh, Sofia Rivero, who's, uh, um, Niña de Rivero, who's, um, a Mexican stand-up, who really was like a, like a, she's a titan of stand-up in Mexico. And she's a woman, and she's like broken a lot of barriers, because she's, was the best and the biggest, um, and is. Um, and, uh, I find that the reason that those stand-ups like her worked so well so early on is because stand-up in Spanish for years, like Alvarez Guedes and, um, legendary like Latino comedians in Spanish, in, in Dominican Republic, we had like Boruga and, um,

• 54:10Speaker 04

  eh, Ho Chi, and there's a bunch, and they, they did like long stories with a big punchline.

• 54:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:15Speaker 04

  Or there, it was political, it was like SNL where you dress up like a political guy and you go blah, blah, blah, blah, and then people go crazy. And so, when you do an American style of stand-up, punchy, observational stuff, I think the audience is, it's a refreshing feeling.

• 54:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 54:34Speaker 04

  And so I feel that when I'm like doing a Spanish set with all Hispanic people, and we're all laughing, and especially today when Latinos are going through a lot.

• 54:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:42Speaker 04

  And we just get to be in a room and scream in Spanish, it feels very powerful.

• 54:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, Pedro, and, and, and I gotta say, Marcelo, like, in general, the, the cast right now on the show is like really putting the variety in variety show. Like, everybody's very, very different, and there's a vibe that's like everybody's kind of bringing the stuff that they can bring, and watching you guys do that, it was very, very exciting, because the show, you, you know, it needs to feel like it's a reflection of the time.

• 55:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:12Speaker 00

  And that is like, and there's.

• 55:14Speaker 04

  Latinos are having a moment. We're having a moment, let us have a moment.

• 55:19Speaker 00

  Do you ever have an SNL stress dream? Have you had any? Do you have a recurring stress dream?

• 55:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:25Speaker 00

  What is it?

• 55:26Speaker 04

  It's, um, not getting to the thing, like not getting to the floor, or it's too far.

• 55:31Speaker 00

  That's mine.

• 55:32Speaker 04

  You're too far or too late.

• 55:33Speaker 00

  Too far, too late.

• 55:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:35Speaker 00

  Running down the stairs.

• 55:36Speaker 04

  Have you almost ever, did you over, almost ever miss one?

• 55:39Speaker 00

  No, I've never missed a, have you?

• 55:41Speaker 04

  No, but I almost did, once.

• 55:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, missing a cue.

• 55:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, like, no, no, like, I was in the beginning of the sketch.

• 55:47Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 55:48Speaker 04

  And I was almost not out there.

• 55:49Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 55:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, and Jenna's like, you know, screaming.

• 55:53Speaker 00

  And she's like, Marcelo.

• 55:53Speaker 04

  And I'm coming from a place where she can't see me, so it was even more nerve-wracking, because I was there and she didn't know yet.

• 55:59Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 55:59Speaker 04

  She was looking for me.

• 56:00Speaker 00

  This is for, on the live, this is on the live show.

• 56:02Speaker 04

  Um, whether it was live or dressed, I think it doesn't matter, it doesn't need to be.

• 56:05Speaker 00

  I definitely have been, I've gone out into a scene with the wrong wig, where I've been the wrong character.

• 56:13Speaker 00

  And then I've come out and, and I've been dressed a certain way, and then I was like, and then I looked up and I was wearing the wrong wig and we had to like switch it in like five seconds.

• 56:21Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 56:21Speaker 00

  So exciting, but those are the kind of things that like, but, but, yeah, your dream is that you don't make it.

• 56:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay.

• 56:26Speaker 04

  Oh, and I wanted to tell you that.

• 56:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:28Speaker 04

  I've been hanging out with Jodi so much.

• 56:30Speaker 00

  Oh, Jodi Mancuso, who runs the hair department at SNL, who, whose voice is an inspiration for Bronx beat.

• 56:37Speaker 04

  Sweat a weather.

• 56:37Speaker 00

  Sweat a weather.

• 56:38Speaker 04

  And so, um, just getting to like, she cuts my hair, she's the only person my mom lets to cut my hair.

• 56:44Speaker 00

  Wait, hold on.

• 56:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:46Speaker 00

  Your mom is in charge of who cuts your hair?

• 56:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:48Speaker 00

  Did she used to cut your hair?

• 56:49Speaker 04

  No, she's always taken me to the person that does it.

• 56:52Speaker 00

  Okay, okay.

• 56:52Speaker 04

  And then, well, Jodi has done it very well, so she's like, Jodi can do it from now on. But, uh, hearing her so much has like, like, I've been at SNL long enough where if you guys didn't do her voice on the show, uh, somebody would have, because you're with her enough that you're like, oh, this is just, she's exactly that person.

• 57:12Speaker 00

  She is.

• 57:13Speaker 04

  So you're telling me, it's so good, it's so, so good.

• 57:16Speaker 00

  Okay, so speaking of the people that you work with who love you.

• 57:20Speaker 04

  Right.

• 57:20Speaker 00

  And, um, one of them is Sarah Sherman, and that is who we talked to today.

• 57:24Speaker 04

  No.

• 57:25Speaker 00

  And I, she said you would be both.

• 57:27Speaker 04

  No.

• 57:28Speaker 00

  She was like, he wants Kevin Hart, he wants us to talk to, you know, other people, but you got me and we got her, and we love her here. And she loves you whether you believe it or not.

• 57:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:40Speaker 00

  And her first, she had a couple of questions for you. First of all, she spoke so well about you.

• 57:44Speaker 04

  Really?

• 57:45Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 57:46Speaker 04

  So, so she, that's the kind of person she is.

• 57:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:48Speaker 04

  She just talks good behind your back.

• 57:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, and to your face.

• 57:52Speaker 04

  And to my face, it's violence.

• 57:53Speaker 00

  Well, and to your face, she said, yeah, because her first question was like, what's your fucking deal, dude?

• 57:58Speaker 04

  Really? That's her first question?

• 58:01Speaker 00

  What's your fucking deal?

• 58:02Speaker 04

  First of all, what's, I'll tell you what my deal is. My deal is, I'll tell you what my deal is, because I, I know this is not just coming from her, this is a big question. There's some new cast members that feel this, they go, what's your fucking deal? And I'll tell you what my deal is, my deal is that I was not given the opportunity to be soft in my house.

• 58:21Speaker 00

  I see.

• 58:22Speaker 04

  You're mean to me my whole life, my family, I was short, my nickname in the house was Pulga, which means flea, that's my name in my house. I'm short, so they call me Dwarf in my house, Enano, means dwarf, that was my name in my house, okay? So, if you are a little girl that wears rainbow clothes, that's your name. That's who you are, I call people, I say it like I see it. So, you know, Tommy Brennan is a good-looking kid, I say that he's good-looking and that mean he might be dumb, because that's what he looks like, you say it.

• 58:53Speaker 00

  That's a love language.

• 58:54Speaker 04

  My love language, and a lot of people, they misinterpret it, because I can, some people can think it's mean, but I don't think that, I think that's how my family talk to me.

• 59:02Speaker 00

  Gen Z love short, I just want you to know, Gen Z love short, guys.

• 59:06Speaker 04

  Why, right, why?

• 59:07Speaker 00

  Because they love, they love short kings.

• 59:09Speaker 04

  Out of guilt, out of guilt of what they've done to the shorts for years, now they're trying to be nice, and you know what, now we don't care. As on behalf of the shorts, we don't care. We don't care what you want to say to us, short king, like, I need that. I taught myself to be self, to have self-esteem, because you wouldn't give it to me.

• 59:26Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 59:27Speaker 04

  Women in their bio talking about, must be six feet to ride this roller coaster, shush.

• 59:35Speaker 00

  You're right, you're right, they don't deserve you.

• 59:37Speaker 04

  They don't deserve me now?

• 59:38Speaker 00

  They don't deserve you.

• 59:38Speaker 04

  Now I'm supposed to say thank you? Oh, thank you, please.

• 59:41Speaker 00

  Okay, and, um, Sarah's second question.

• 59:44Speaker 04

  Uh huh.

• 59:45Speaker 00

  Why are you not answering my texts?

• 59:47Speaker 04

  Um.

• 59:48Speaker 00

  We already talked about that.

• 59:49Speaker 04

  Sarah's just a complainer, right? And so, and sometimes I can, sometimes I do have the bandwidth, but right now, I'm too busy to be too bandwidth. But I, I will say this about Sarah, I watch her on podcasts, when I'm like bored, I'll watch Sarah on a podcast. Sarah has jokes per minute, Sarah's always trying to do a joke.

• 1:00:09Speaker 00

  Both are very, you, yeah, she has so many, you guys are both really quick.

• 1:00:13Speaker 04

  She's quick, I like her for that.

• 1:00:14Speaker 00

  She's so quick, and then she, and sweetly, her third question was like, basically like, you have written so many great jokes, you have really well-written jokes, you're a physical person, you have a ton of charisma, like, you know how to work a room, like, it's not a.

• 1:00:30Speaker 04

  I'm gonna cry in front of Amy Poehler.

• 1:00:32Speaker 00

  But you have really, really good, let, take this compliment in, and you have really, really good jokes, and you are a very, very good writer. And she wants to know, like, how do you see yourself as a writer? Like, do you see yourself as a writer? And can you accept that you're a good one?

• 1:00:48Speaker 04

  Um, I don't know, um, but, um.

• 1:00:53Speaker 00

  You're not gonna answer this question.

• 1:00:54Speaker 04

  I don't know, I'm just like, um, I don't feel like I'm a great writer, I, I'm, I'm probably gonna take a sketch writing class this summer, because of that fear of like, because also I just watched, like, because Sarah, a lot of the people at the show, they know sketch.

• 1:01:10Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:01:10Speaker 04

  And I came so hard from stand-up that I don't know sketch that well.

• 1:01:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:01:14Speaker 04

  And watching people like Mikey and Streeter and.

• 1:01:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:01:18Speaker 04

  Colin and, uh, Bowen and.

• 1:01:21Speaker 00

  And know how to like structure and heighten.

• 1:01:23Speaker 04

  And you, like, all of the stuff you've done, and Maya, and all, like, so many people that have come from, that came from sketch to the show, that are so, Ashley Padilla is such a great sketch writer, and I'm like athletically jealous.

• 1:01:38Speaker 00

  Uh huh.

• 1:01:38Speaker 04

  Of like that ability, and I think that she's right, like, I can write jokes, but the format and the, the, the, the character reveal and all that stuff is stuff that if it wasn't for Jake Nordwind and Mike D'Chenzo, who have been like really with me a lot, um, and Asha Ward is like, I would not be, I wouldn't, I wouldn't get anything on, because I'm just jokes.

• 1:02:01Speaker 00

  Uh huh.

• 1:02:01Speaker 04

  And so, I'm learning, I'm trying to learn more and more of like what that thing is.

• 1:02:08Speaker 00

  But I think that's really cool, like Sarah was on here, she's now going into her fifth year, and she was like.

• 1:02:13Speaker 04

  So I'm going into my fourth year.

• 1:02:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're a year behind her, and it's like, that's when you start being like, should I practice my backhand? Like, what's the thing, like, like, I, I've got on, I've got some stuff on, people know who I am, I'm like playing to my strengths, now I'm playing with good people, now I know how this place works, and then you can start being like, all right, can I start trying some stuff that like, maybe I don't necessarily go to automatically, but like, it's cool, it's a cool trajectory of being on that show. And, and being an artist, basically, that's what a good artist does, is they keep trying new things, seeing what works, like, learning from good people, getting better, that's what they do.

• 1:02:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, and you, what, like, you did the show.

• 1:02:53Speaker 00

  Look, he just, he's, now he's talking about me.

• 1:02:55Speaker 04

  Of course, well, what, what am I supposed to do? What am I to do? What is, what type of psychotic person sits with Amy Poehler and goes, let's talk about me? You have to be who? Denzel, like?

• 1:03:08Speaker 00

  Denzel, if you're watching, I'd love to have you on.

• 1:03:10Speaker 04

  Yes, Denzel should come by, he would kill this, oh my god.

• 1:03:13Speaker 00

  I would love to have Denzel on.

• 1:03:15Speaker 04

  So, because you did the show, right? And this is something, by the way, that I have to ask you, um, in person, because I've been petrified to text you after our debacle. So, you did the show, you had this, you know, obviously incredible transition into TV, and you've done so many funny parts and roles, and you've written, and you've done it all. What, like, advice do you have for someone that, like me, or like Sarah, or like, or like, you know, Ashley, or even Bowen that just left the show, and so many people that looked up to you, and I've seen you as like a beacon of like, that is a funny lady that has worked hard and is successful.

• 1:03:56Speaker 02

  What do you say to us?

• 1:03:59Speaker 00

  Let me ask you one question. The, the, after the show, do you wanna do more? Is the hope to do more like written stuff, more film, more TV and stuff like that? Yeah, then I would say, my advice, if that was what you would wanna do, is two things. Is like, don't take anyone else's advice. Don't listen to anybody.

• 1:04:19Speaker 02

  Damn it.

• 1:04:20Speaker 00

  I know, because you-

• 1:04:21Speaker 02

  It's always the person you really want advice from that says something like that.

• 1:04:23Speaker 00

  Well, you only know, you only know what's right for you, just like, and, um, I would say, enjoy where you are as best you can when you're there. I just think that simple idea of enjoying where you are and not, I mean, I, I, I don't always take this advice either, but this idea of like, if I get here, then I'll get here, and if I get here, then I'll get here, and it's like, and we can do that our whole lives, we can always be like, this is good, this is great, but like, I want more sketches, or now, okay, I've been on for seven years, now I wanna, like, it just never ends, the dissatisfaction of our job.

• 1:05:01Speaker 00

  And that's motivating, and that's good, but I would say, I think the real win is being actually where you are in life, and trying as best you can to enjoy it. It's like the hardest thing in the world to do, but the few times I've done it, my whole life has changed.

• 1:05:18Speaker 02

  And what do you do when you're like, what is an example of you enjoying where you are?

• 1:05:22Speaker 00

  Like being like actually, well, for, the way it looks like for me, I, I bet it looks similar for you, is that I'm actually like looking around and laughing with the people I get to be with, and not like the way-

• 1:05:40Speaker 02

  Worrying.

• 1:05:41Speaker 00

  Yes, just like being in, being in my body in real, in real space and time. I know it sounds esoteric, but as far as career advice, who fucking knows? Like in five years, we may have to do fucking comedy on the moon, and TV will be on your phone, and books will be a snack that you eat, and like, we don't, like, who knows what's gonna be in the, how we're gonna make con- I mean, I'm doing a podcast.

• 1:06:02Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:06:02Speaker 00

  So like what, you know, if you told me, I didn't even know what podcasts were.

• 1:06:06Speaker 02

  I know, and by the way, it's one of the best ones. Award-winning, crazy.

• 1:06:11Speaker 00

  So as far as career, who knows?

• 1:06:13Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah, whatever, thank you.

• 1:06:15Speaker 00

  Okay, it's not, it wasn't good advice.

• 1:06:16Speaker 02

  No, it was, it was, I'm gonna live in the moment, but, and I don't know how quick you're gonna wrap up.

• 1:06:21Speaker 00

  Enjoy the moment.

• 1:06:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:22Speaker 00

  Enjoy it.

• 1:06:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:23Speaker 00

  Cause like, life is a dream and we're all gonna die, you know?

• 1:06:27Speaker 02

  Um, you played a game here with Fred.

• 1:06:31Speaker 00

  Yes, what game do we play, wanna play it?

• 1:06:33Speaker 02

  I want to play it with you.

• 1:06:35Speaker 00

  Okay, which, which game was it?

• 1:06:36Speaker 02

  It's a game where you tell someone to pretend they're an expert-

• 1:06:39Speaker 00

  Oh, yes, let's play it.

• 1:06:40Speaker 02

  About something.

• 1:06:41Speaker 00

  Okay, okay, okay, okay. I can't wait, okay, okay, okay.

• 1:06:45Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:06:45Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:06:46Speaker 02

  And I'm gonna, and I, I, I, I watched Fred's and I loved his so much, and he did a lot of stuff that I liked, that I might incorporate into mine, because it's so good, but maybe you go first?

• 1:06:56Speaker 00

  Okay, I'll go first.

• 1:06:56Speaker 02

  I tell you-

• 1:06:57Speaker 00

  So to remind people that didn't listen to the Fred Armisen episode, Fred and I, it's a great game, where we play, where, well, I don't know if we play it, but we just, I made him play it.

• 1:07:05Speaker 02

  They go, no, no, no.

• 1:07:08Speaker 02

  Big red no, okay.

• 1:07:09Speaker 00

  Where you get a subject and you have to talk for a minute, um, as if you were an expert.

• 1:07:14Speaker 02

  I have my phone, yours is dead and it's, it's from 2004.

• 1:07:17Speaker 00

  I'll dare you, I'll dare you.

• 1:07:19Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:07:19Speaker 00

  Okay, so you have, I have to try, and you have to re, try to be convincing, you have to be, you can't be like jokey, you have to be like, you're giving a talk on this thing, okay.

• 1:07:28Speaker 02

  So I tell you yours, okay. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

• 1:07:33Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:07:33Speaker 02

  Um, okay, uh, you are an expert on, um, corn.

• 1:07:42Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:07:43Speaker 02

  Three, two, one, go.

• 1:07:47Speaker 00

  Before you start talking about the individual varieties of corn, you really have to understand what corn means to America. And what corn means to America is a sense of community. It means that we as a nation are coming together to create a crop that means we will be okay. Corn represents safety and security.

• 1:08:13Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:08:13Speaker 00

  And so the varieties, of which I'll talk about all of them today.

• 1:08:16Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 1:08:17Speaker 00

  Um, they in many ways represent our relationship to corn in general. How we've gotten to know it, how we've gotten to grow it.

• 1:08:27Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:08:29Speaker 00

  And, and how we use that incredible crop, which has sustained our forefathers.

• 1:08:38Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:08:39Speaker 00

  How we've used it to find out about ourselves.

• 1:08:42Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:08:43Speaker 00

  So let's get started first with-

• 1:08:45Speaker 02

  That's a minute.

• 1:08:48Speaker 02

  You got so good.

• 1:08:49Speaker 00

  I mean, I don't know.

• 1:08:50Speaker 02

  That's really good.

• 1:08:51Speaker 00

  I felt like I was bullshitting.

• 1:08:53Speaker 02

  We're all a kernel.

• 1:08:53Speaker 00

  Okay, now you go. We're all a kernel.

• 1:08:55Speaker 02

  We're all kernels.

• 1:08:56Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:08:57Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:08:57Speaker 00

  You are an expert on, um, uh, the invention of penicillin.

• 1:09:03Speaker 02

  Okay, count me down.

• 1:09:05Speaker 00

  Here we go.

• 1:09:07Speaker 02

  Um, so penicillin in many ways is a reaction, right? Um, penicillin is a reaction to the effects of the penicillin before penicillin, alcohol, right? For many years, alcohol was penicillin, but what's the deal with alcohol, right? You drink it, you drink it, you drink it, you numb yourself in the pain, but there's an emotional experience. The beauty of penicillin is that it gives you all of the benefits of alcohol without the hangover and the emotional moments, you know?

• 1:09:49Speaker 02

  And, um, a lot of people don't know this, but, um, in, uh, 1879,

• 1:09:56Speaker 02

  Jeffrey L. Silin.

• 1:10:01Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:10:02Speaker 02

  He goes, he goes, what are we gonna do, right? He, he figures this out, and then he goes, how do we get it in people? Something like a pen.

• 1:10:14Speaker 02

  And that's actually, penicillin was backwards also the creation of the syringe.

• 1:10:20Speaker 00

  Whoa, I did not know that.

• 1:10:22Speaker 02

  And that's a minute and fifteen.

• 1:10:27Speaker 00

  You had me until you said, and he goes-

• 1:10:32Speaker 02

  Jeffrey L. Silin.

• 1:10:34Speaker 00

  And Jeffrey, and he goes, what are we gonna do?

• 1:10:38Speaker 02

  I think, I, I bet I was at a minute before that, but wow, corn, you were very good with corn.

• 1:10:45Speaker 00

  I, I skirted around.

• 1:10:46Speaker 02

  You knew science was not my thing, I went to summer school for chemistry as well, and I failed that.

• 1:10:52Speaker 00

  And he goes, what are we gonna do? What are we gonna do?

• 1:10:56Speaker 02

  What are we gonna do? And that's been one of the biggest questions in science, is when Jeffrey-

• 1:11:02Speaker 00

  That is one of the biggest questions in science.

• 1:11:04Speaker 02

  It is one of the biggest, what are we gonna do? Whenever something has, an obstacle has arrived, every major scientist in history has said, what are we gonna do? And so that's, you know, and I'll tell you what we're gonna do here today. Wrap this up. A lot of people in the comments here live are saying, keep going, we want more. You see in the comments, hey chat? I know, guys, I wanna stay, let the record show, it's like a lot. Oh my God, a super chat, 500 bucks, 500 bucks if I stay. Thank you, lizardking45. Thank you, buddy.

• 1:11:44Speaker 00

  And then what are you watching right now, listening to?

• 1:11:47Speaker 02

  Woo!

• 1:11:48Speaker 00

  Who makes you laugh, Marcelo?

• 1:11:50Speaker 02

  How much time do we have? Not a lot, that's a fact.

• 1:11:54Speaker 00

  Just need one.

• 1:11:55Speaker 02

  One thing I'm watching, okay.

• 1:11:57Speaker 00

  What are you liking, watching, listening? You listen to, I know you're a bit of a culture vulture, I can tell.

• 1:12:02Speaker 02

  I do, I do love listening to you, I listen to you in, uh, shorts.

• 1:12:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:12:06Speaker 02

  I watch the shorts, all the shorts.

• 1:12:08Speaker 00

  I understand.

• 1:12:09Speaker 02

  Um, to have a laugh, um, to have a laugh is, it's tough.

• 1:12:14Speaker 00

  I know.

• 1:12:14Speaker 02

  I try to stay, like, I almost try to like keep-

• 1:12:17Speaker 00

  I know.

• 1:12:17Speaker 02

  You ever do that?

• 1:12:18Speaker 00

  Yes, it's hard to, that's why I ask, cause I'm like, I wanna watch more comedy, I watch a lot of dark stuff and I need to like, is there a video, is there a video-

• 1:12:26Speaker 02

  There's a video.

• 1:12:27Speaker 00

  That you play that you love?

• 1:12:28Speaker 02

  There's one, this is kind of-

• 1:12:30Speaker 00

  It's just on your phone?

• 1:12:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's only for me.

• 1:12:32Speaker 00

  I can look it up on my laptop, too.

• 1:12:34Speaker 02

  To play it?

• 1:12:35Speaker 00

  No, we don't have that capacity here.

• 1:12:36Speaker 02

  Oh, okay. I, I recently watched this video of a guy who can cry on command.

• 1:12:44Speaker 00

  Oh, ooh.

• 1:12:45Speaker 02

  And he's talking about how his, um, he's-

• 1:12:48Speaker 00

  Is this on TikTok?

• 1:12:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'll show you, it's really crazy, and, um, he's, he's just crying cause his tire is flat.

• 1:12:59Speaker 02

  And it's like really intense. And I laughed so hard.

• 1:13:17Speaker 00

  Marcelo, we-

• 1:13:19Speaker 02

  We gotta go. I know. It sucks. It's like when you go to your aunt's house and you're like, you're my aunt. And I love you and I like to be at your house. And then you go, I know, but I have a life as well. And you go, okay, I get it. Send me back to where I came from.

• 1:13:34Speaker 00

  But I love visiting my nephew. I love when he brings me flowers.

• 1:13:37Speaker 02

  I did bring you flowers. They're big, too.

• 1:13:40Speaker 00

  They're absolutely gorgeous.

• 1:13:42Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:13:42Speaker 00

  They really are gorgeous.

• 1:13:44Speaker 02

  Thank you so much.

• 1:13:45Speaker 00

  Marcelo, you're the first person to ever bring me flowers on this show.

• 1:13:47Speaker 02

  Is that true? And I want that to go down in history. Thank you to Amy Poehler. I'm so inspired by you. I'm serious. You have to do it to people all day long. It's almost like what you do at this podcast. And I think it's ridiculous to give people compliments because it sucks and it's weird and it hurts. It makes me feel weird when I get a compliment.

• 1:14:05Speaker 00

  I've noticed.

• 1:14:05Speaker 02

  So I like to attack with it.

• 1:14:06Speaker 00

  I've noticed.

• 1:14:07Speaker 02

  And you don't like it either. Look at you. You don't like it either.

• 1:14:09Speaker 00

  No, honey, you're not gonna compliment me. You're not complimenting me.

• 1:14:13Speaker 02

  Yes, you deserve it. You are powerful. You are smart. You have a good family.

• 1:14:18Speaker 00

  Thank you, Marcelo, for being here.

• 1:14:20Speaker 02

  You have created a world for yourself. You did podcasting for a week and then got awards. You are insane.

• 1:14:24Speaker 00

  Thank you so much.

• 1:14:25Speaker 02

  You're so funny. At SNL, you are an example of how it's supposed to be. And so many comedians in the world have you to thank for the platform you gave them.

• 1:14:34Speaker 00

  This room is gonna be used by somebody else.

• 1:14:36Speaker 02

  And I'll tell you, yeah, okay. And I just want to say a couple more things. And Amy Poehler, the longevity of what you've done to start where you started and then get to here from SNL, they go, okay, she did SNL. Now what?

• 1:14:46Speaker 00

  We gotta return these lights.

• 1:14:47Speaker 02

  What? Now what? Parks and Rec. You're a savage on Parks and Rec. Dying of laughter, dying of laughter, dying of laughter.

• 1:14:53Speaker 00

  So sorry, Marcelo.

• 1:14:54Speaker 02

  You create stars. You create stars. Think about the people on that show with you. It's Nick Offerman. It's Aubrey Plaza. And you're with them and you're playing back and forth and the people are laughing.

• 1:15:05Speaker 00

  We've cut the feed.

• 1:15:06Speaker 02

  Don't turn it off. Don't touch it.

• 1:15:08Speaker 00

  We've cut the feed.

• 1:15:09Speaker 02

  You did?

• 1:15:10Speaker 00

  We've cut the feed long ago. Don't look at the clock.

• 1:15:13Speaker 02

  No, the clock's bright, blinking red. A woman just wrote WTF. And I say a woman because it's just, this is what's here.

• 1:15:23Speaker 00

  I have a button under my desk and I just pressed it. It's a security button.

• 1:15:26Speaker 02

  It's a security button. They're coming, aren't they? And you know what? I want her to drag me out of here. He should be on every Mount Rushmore.

• 1:15:32Speaker 00

  Now I'm actually getting mad.

• 1:15:34Speaker 02

  You're getting upset? Okay.

• 1:15:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's time to go. Here my no.

• 1:15:39Speaker 02

  Okay. Thank you. I want to say a shout out, quick shout out to my mom, to all the Latinos out there. Keep it, keep grinding, baby. We are not going anywhere.

• 1:15:49Speaker 00

  We do need you to leave.

• 1:15:50Speaker 02

  And that's, and you know what I mean?

• 1:15:53Speaker 00

  Security is on the way.

• 1:15:55Speaker 02

  To my sister, my dad, my stepdad, all the men in my life, my uncle Bebido, rest in peace, I love, I loved you and I still love you.

• 1:16:02Speaker 00

  You're really making people uncomfortable now.

• 1:16:04Speaker 02

  And my little sister is so talented. And my girlfriend is beautiful. And thank you, guys, man. Wow.

• 1:16:10Speaker 00

  Woo, Marcelo!

• 1:16:11Speaker 02

  Thank you. And you guys gotta get this woman a phone.

• 1:16:18Speaker 00

  Thank you so much, Marcelo. That was so fun and a wild ride. And thank you for the flowers and so many hard laughs. And, you know, leave it to Marcelo to introduce me to a woman in comedy that I've never heard of. So for this polar plunge, I'm excited to dig deep into the work of Sofia Nino de Rivera, who is a, an actress and stand-up, born in Mexico City and who performs in English and in Spanish and who is really, really funny. So check her stuff out. And thank you, Marcelo, for introducing me and all of us to a whole other world of great people to laugh at and laugh with.

• 1:17:01Speaker 00

  Thanks for checking out this episode of Good Hang and we'll see you soon. Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, Aleia Zaneras, Bridget Geerlings, Paige Garberini, Belle Roman, and Drew Van Steen-Burgen. For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss-Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.

• 1:17:37Speaker 05

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