Ashley Padilla

Ashley Padilla is so good at impressions. Amy hangs with the 'SNL' star and talks about hiding from the cops in a rose bush, running Diane Keaton's Instagram, and the best ways to play a fart. Host: Amy PoehlerGuests: Andrew Dismukes and Ashley PadillaExecutive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-BermanFor Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, and supervising producer Joel LovellFor The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson, Belle Roman, and Aleya Zenieris; lighting director Caroline Jannace; audio producer Kaya McMullen; social producer Bridget Geerlings; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and bookers Kat Spillane and Paige GarbariniOriginal Music: Amy Miles Visit uber.com/safety to learn more. Switch today at https://www. Visible.com for just 25/mo. Or get the premium Visible+ pro plan and save $10 on your first month with code HANG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Amy Poehler?

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• 0:38Amy Poehler?

  Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. We are really excited about our guest today. It is Ashley Padilla. Ashley is so talented, so funny. In her third season at SNL, just an excellent cast member who we've all fallen in love with. And we are going to talk about a lot of fun stuff today. We're going to talk about the wonderful Diane Keaton. We're going to talk about getting arrested and mouthing off to cops. We're going to talk about how lucky we are to have comedy as our job and how we pinch ourselves every day. We're going to get into a lot of good stuff. But before we do, we are going to talk to somebody who knows our guest, who works with our guest.

• 1:17Amy Poehler?

  And that is Andrew Dismuks, another hilarious performer and writer on SNL. A good Texas boy who has a real New York coffee order. So let's check in with Andrew. I believe he's speaking to us from a poorly lit hotel room. Andrew?

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• 2:22Amy Poehler?

  Andrew, what are you drinking there? What's your coffee, coffee order?

• 2:26Speaker 01

  I'm in Appleton, Wisconsin, right now. I did some stand up, so nice hotel coffee.

• 2:34Amy Poehler?

  You went down and got it and brought it back up to your room?

• 2:36Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

• 2:37Amy Poehler?

  Fantastic. How do you take your coffee?

• 2:39Speaker 01

  Black, straight up.

• 2:41Amy Poehler?

  Okay.

• 2:42Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. I'm a real one.

• 2:46Amy Poehler?

  Pretty serious stuff.

• 2:48Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, I'm a tough guy. I'm a tough New York guy.

• 2:52Amy Poehler?

  Andrew, I was, I was so happy that we were talking today and realizing that I need to get you into the stew. Because I feel like I, are you a New York guy? Did you grow up in the East? I don't know enough about you. No, you're not.

• 3:05Speaker 01

  I'm from Texas originally.

• 3:08Speaker 01

  You know, I've become a New York guy in my heart.

• 3:10Amy Poehler?

  Actually, you have, because you've been, what? You've been living in the city for how long now?

• 3:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, nine years now.

• 3:16Amy Poehler?

  Dang.

• 3:17Speaker 01

  It's crazy. And I, and I've seen like none of it. Every time people ask me like what my favorite restaurant is, I'm like, there's one like two blocks from my house. That's great.

• 3:27Amy Poehler?

  And do you have a set tonight? Stand up set tonight? Or, or did you just do one last night?

• 3:32Speaker 01

  I did one last night, flying back home later.

• 3:35Amy Poehler?

  How did it go?

• 3:36Speaker 01

  Crushed.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  Let's just say it. There's no, no, no, two ways about it. Crushed.

• 3:43Amy Poehler?

  And did you change some minds? You changed some lives?

• 3:47Speaker 01

  Well, that's what it's really all about, is it's about touching hearts and changing minds. And we did, we did.

• 3:52Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 3:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:53Amy Poehler?

  And I, and I know I have heard that people have asked you to stop touching their hearts.

• 3:57Speaker 01

  And I said, well, it's too bad.

• 4:00Amy Poehler?

  HR has asked you to stop touching some of their hearts.

• 4:04Speaker 01

  I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to change people.

• 4:07Speaker 01

  Like, well, you're literally touching their hearts. I thought that's what I was supposed to do.

• 4:12Amy Poehler?

  I'm very excited to talk to you about Ashley today because you two have something that you just kind of can't manufacture, which is chemistry. You two have a way of, of being together in the world as performers that feels very natural and fun and playful. How did you first meet?

• 4:34Speaker 01

  We first met at the show, like her first episode.

• 4:40Speaker 01

  And just pretty quickly, it was clear that like, oh, this is somebody who has got chops like crazy. And I think specifically both like performer and writer chops. Like, she's such a confident performer and so able to bring like real acting to the sketches she does. But then also like what she writes, you're also like, damn, you're good at both of those things? That's crazy.

• 5:07Amy Poehler?

  And did you start writing with her right away?

• 5:09Speaker 01

  No, really, her whole first season, we didn't collaborate much. I think we maybe wrote one or two things that didn't make it to air.

• 5:18Speaker 01

  But yeah, the first real collaboration was the Weekend Update thing, the, the couple who just hooked up.

• 5:25Amy Poehler?

  Right.

• 5:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:26Amy Poehler?

  And your tie is askew.

• 5:27Speaker 01

  My tie is askew. It's very steamy.

• 5:30Amy Poehler?

  It's very, her hair is got that bed, bed head thing. And you guys are talking about the Super Bowl.

• 5:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:36Amy Poehler?

  Yeah. I mean, that is my favorite thing about Weekend Update features is what the characters are talking about.

• 5:42Speaker 01

  This is who you got to talk about this?

• 5:46Speaker 01

  And they're doing a very bad job.

• 5:49Speaker 01

  It's like just the worst run show in the world. That's like the premise of Weekend Update is they have the worst booker of all time.

• 5:56Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, they have terrible guests. And what do you like about writing with her?

• 6:00Speaker 01

  I think what I like the most about Ashley's writing and writing with her is like, her ideas are all like about playing the realness of the scene. And so that's just fun to create in that space where it's like, we're playing real emotion to comedic effect rather than like being kind of over the top silly. It's just a fun energy to get into.

• 6:24Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, I want to talk to her about that today is that, you know, she's a really good actress. And so she's like acting everything very naturally and very real. And it's funny because she puts herself in very insane. And she's often like very incredulous as a character. She kind of can't believe what's happening to her.

• 6:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think about the like fart sketch that she did, which everybody loves a fart sketch. But it's so funny, the way she plays it where it's like, this woman is very legitimately upset that it just happened. It's not like, oh, I farted. It's like, oh, my God, I farted. Like, I just love that. I love that approach that she has.

• 7:08Amy Poehler?

  Me, too. For people that don't know, she plays a, a woman who, her coworkers try to surprise her. They turn on the lights and she farts as soon as she sees them. And it's just like downhill from there. She cannot get past it. And then there's like two minutes of her asking everybody what they make, what their salary is.

• 7:29Speaker 01

  So good.

• 7:29Amy Poehler?

  Played very real. Do you have a question for Ashley today? Anything big or small that I could ask her?

• 7:35Speaker 01

  I feel like Groundlings specifically, when people come to SNL from Groundlings, it's that, it feels like that. It feels like those people are so equipped for SNL off the jump. Thinking like Mikey, Heidi, Ashley, as well as like former cast members who come back and host. It just feels like that's the most mappable training ground for people in a really interesting way. And I guess I'm just curious what would like, if she has any insight in like, what was it that she learned in Groundlings? Or what was it that Groundlings specifically instilled in her that made her be like so ready and so equipped? What's the thing she learned in Groundlings?

• 8:20Speaker 01

  Or just from that time in her life that she feels like has applied the most to being on SNL?

• 8:26Amy Poehler?

  Ah, great question. I mean, what if we found out that Groundlings has like a mini SNL set and they just run drills?

• 8:33Speaker 01

  That would be, I wouldn't be surprised.

• 8:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm just so impressed with her like so quickly. I'm like, what's the secret? How did, what, what did you learn? Like, please tell me.

• 8:43Amy Poehler?

  She does do a thing that I think good, and, and I think you do this too. And is that, you know, in sketch, you have to be grounded, but you also can't be like too, too internal, too interior. You know, I'm sure like actors come on the show and they're, they get kind of quiet and they really want to, and you're like, oh, no, you have to be loud.

• 9:05Speaker 01

  Totally, totally. Yeah. I think especially just in that room, like, I think we have talked about it where it's like, doesn't have the best acoustics. Like, there is a thing of like, sometimes you'll do a sketch and you'll be like, I don't think anybody in that room heard what I was saying.

• 9:22Speaker 01

  I think everybody in the audience was like, oh, wow, they just went and did like a silent little play.

• 9:28Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 9:29Speaker 01

  We didn't enjoy it.

• 9:30Amy Poehler?

  They did a little whisper play.

• 9:33Speaker 01

  A little whisper play. So, yeah, being still able to, being able to be micro, but also like, yeah, play, play big enough to get laughs in that room is very important. And she does do that very well.

• 9:43Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, right on. Awesome. Well, it's, it's great to see you. The last time I saw you, I felt like I was dressed as a man and I was holding a tortoise because of something that you wrote.

• 9:52Speaker 01

  We had a sketch where you were dressed as a man and holding a tortoise.

• 9:54Amy Poehler?

  Well, thank you for that.

• 9:55Speaker 01

  And then thank you for doing that. We really appreciated it.

• 9:57Amy Poehler?

  Of course. And I will, the, the tortoise wrangler who, you know, was very nice, did warn me that the tortoise could and would most likely bite.

• 10:11Speaker 01

  And you handled it like a champion. We really appreciated that. Because we, she, the wrangler did said that, and we were like, and you're cool with that, right? Amy, you're cool with maybe getting bitten?

• 10:18Amy Poehler?

  Totally. Thank you for talking from your hotel room.

• 10:24Amy Poehler?

  Good luck with the coffee.

• 10:25Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 10:26Amy Poehler?

  Please don't turn any lights on. Just stay as, stay in the dark.

• 10:29Speaker 01

  Stay in the dark, because this is just sort of where I like to be. This is just where I'm most comfortable. Yeah. There's a hard light coming here, a hard chat. I think that's best for Zoom. And I'm sure that your producers are really happy that I, that this is my configuration.

• 10:43Amy Poehler?

  Well, we're gonna, we're gonna use those Zoom filters. We're gonna put on funny sunglasses. We're gonna put on like a beret.

• 10:49Speaker 01

  You're gonna make me look like a cool, tough guy. Yeah, nice.

• 10:51Amy Poehler?

  Like a cool, tough, yeah, like a New Yorker.

• 10:54Speaker 01

  Right, because like in New York, I got sunglasses on like a New Yorker.

• 10:58Amy Poehler?

  Andrew, thank you so much for doing this. Ashley's gonna be thrilled that we talked and it's so great to see you.

• 11:03Speaker 01

  Thank you, Amy.

• 11:03Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, thank you so much. Okay, buddy. Bye.

• 11:06Speaker 01

  Bye.

• 11:06Amy Poehler?

  Thanks.

• 11:09Amy Poehler?

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• 12:04Amy Poehler?

  I'm so glad you're here.

• 12:06Speaker 02

  This is surreal.

• 12:07Amy Poehler?

  Come on.

• 12:08Speaker 02

  Come on.

• 12:11Amy Poehler?

  I'm so excited.

• 12:12Speaker 02

  This is crazy.

• 12:13Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, I know.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  What?

• 12:15Amy Poehler?

  People don't know that we're talking on a very stormy and rainy morning.

• 12:19Speaker 02

  It's very rainy.

• 12:21Amy Poehler?

  I mean, I don't know if people care about the weather outside when we do this.

• 12:26Speaker 02

  Every day, you're like, today's forecast.

• 12:30Amy Poehler?

  But I was like, maybe it's too stormy. Maybe Ashley won't come.

• 12:37Amy Poehler?

  I got scared.

• 12:40Speaker 02

  Not today, I can't do this. Sorry, Amy, it's raining.

• 12:44Amy Poehler?

  Okay, are we good with Ashley's? Okay, wait, I can move this.

• 12:52Speaker 02

  Can I take a sip of this yet?

• 12:54Amy Poehler?

  No, it's lighter fluid in there.

• 12:58Amy Poehler?

  It's for the cameras.

• 12:59Speaker 02

  Just do water, it's for the cameras?

• 13:01Amy Poehler?

  I'm so sorry.

• 13:01Speaker 02

  There's no way.

• 13:02Amy Poehler?

  You can't drink anything.

• 13:03Speaker 02

  Okay, I trust you.

• 13:04Amy Poehler?

  Yes, of course you can. Okay, very good, so move.

• 13:09Amy Poehler?

  Moving the laptop, here we go.

• 13:11Speaker 02

  They're just kind of moving.

• 13:15Amy Poehler?

  And weirdly, the laptop is the only thing you can see.

• 13:19Speaker 02

  It just gets closer to camera.

• 13:20Amy Poehler?

  It's fun, because look at this.

• 13:24Amy Poehler?

  Can you imagine if I was just on it too the whole time?

• 13:26Speaker 02

  And you're on Facebook, right?

• 13:31Speaker 02

  You're on Twitter being like, ever been so bored in your life?

• 13:34Amy Poehler?

  I'm on Facebook marketing.

• 13:40Amy Poehler?

  Ashley Benia is here.

• 13:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:41Amy Poehler?

  I'm so happy you're here.

• 13:43Speaker 02

  I can't believe it.

• 13:44Amy Poehler?

  I'm thrilled you're here. And congratulations on being one of the captains of the show.

• 13:49Speaker 02

  Wow. And coming from the captain.

• 13:53Amy Poehler?

  Ma'am, and also.

• 13:55Speaker 02

  Ma'am, please don't talk to me.

• 13:56Amy Poehler?

  Don't.

• 13:57Speaker 02

  Oh, please don't.

• 13:58Amy Poehler?

  I don't want to talk about my life.

• 13:59Speaker 02

  Oh, sorry. Please don't, I'm interviewing you.

• 14:05Amy Poehler?

  But the cast is so good right now. The show is so gelled. Congratulations on having an incredible year.

• 14:13Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 14:14Amy Poehler?

  Your second year, second season of the show.

• 14:17Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 14:17Amy Poehler?

  And I guess what I wanted to start with is that I don't, you know, I don't know a lot about you. Very mysterious, Ashley. And you like to keep it that way.

• 14:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:26Amy Poehler?

  So, great talking to you.

• 14:29Speaker 02

  Bye bye. Anyways, it's still raining outside.

• 14:35Speaker 02

  The rain is getting harder.

• 14:37Amy Poehler?

  Talk about the rain.

• 14:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:38Amy Poehler?

  But you're a private person.

• 14:40Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 14:41Amy Poehler?

  Or I would say you don't have a lot of.

• 14:42Speaker 02

  It's not that I'm private.

• 14:44Amy Poehler?

  Okay, tell me.

• 14:44Speaker 02

  It's that I'm so scary boring. And I thought, I'm gonna reveal this. Last night, in bed, going to bed, thinking about today, and I had an image of us sitting there, no talking, and you going, so.

• 15:03Speaker 02

  No, Ashley, that won't happen. She'll have questions for sure.

• 15:07Amy Poehler?

  She'll think of something.

• 15:08Speaker 02

  She'll think of something.

• 15:09Amy Poehler?

  She'll talk about the weather, something. She'll say that it's raining outside.

• 15:13Speaker 02

  I had a nightmare that you were like, okay.

• 15:16Amy Poehler?

  Ash.

• 15:17Speaker 02

  Because there's nothing to share.

• 15:20Amy Poehler?

  That's not, everyone has something to share. Everyone does.

• 15:26Amy Poehler?

  But one of my kind of themes of today is that you entered the show kind of as a grown ass woman.

• 15:33Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 15:34Amy Poehler?

  Like with your skills and your readiness for the show and us getting to know you on the show seem to have matched, in my opinion. And that's very, very cool and satisfying to watch. And also, you have something that I really, really love. When you talk about your job and your show is a real gratitude for how cool it is to get paid to do comedy on TV.

• 16:00Speaker 02

  Like, it's crazy.

• 16:03Speaker 02

  No, it's crazy. I'm scared if I say it out loud too much. People will be like, hey, she's right. Get her out of here. Or pay her nothing. What the hell? I do worry about that.

• 16:14Amy Poehler?

  Because, because to be a successful actor on a TV show that is so beloved that people are responding to your work, it's, and even just, you know, I was looking up the number again, because I always get blown away by the fact that there's only been like 180, 170-something cast members.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a club, it's crazy.

• 16:35Amy Poehler?

  It's an airplane.

• 16:36Speaker 02

  It's an airplane.

• 16:38Amy Poehler?

  So, to be on that show, I guess, what are the still kind of pinch me moments, two years in, that feel like?

• 16:47Speaker 02

  This?

• 16:50Speaker 02

  You speaking to me. It really is so crazy. It's like, there's pinch me moments every day. Because it's so silly, because what you said, I mean, I've been practicing this craft for so long.

• 17:05Amy Poehler?

  Yes.

• 17:06Speaker 02

  Even in childhood, doing it without you realizing you're doing it, right? Just being an idiot and funny and people saying you're annoying. And it's just like, it was so natural to me. And so to do it for a living is crazy.

• 17:23Amy Poehler?

  I know.

• 17:24Speaker 02

  It's a pinch me moment, all the time.

• 17:25Amy Poehler?

  What kind of little kid were you?

• 17:27Speaker 02

  I was loud and really funny, I think. And I think, you know, my uncle, I think, my Uncle Chris, he's the one who really got me into sketch comedy. He did, he would, I did a thing called the sign spinner. I came up with this girl named Esther, the sign spinner.

• 17:46Amy Poehler?

  Oh, like the person that's outside of you?

• 17:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, and she was a character named Esther who would, she sign spin for fun, because she loved it. So she'd make signs for different restaurants around town and do it for free. And they're like, get out of our, we don't. And it was this thing we came up with, and he like recorded it with me and.

• 18:08Amy Poehler?

  Cute, how old were you then?

• 18:09Speaker 02

  Edited it with me. 13? So he was the one who was like, you have something and I like comedy and let's make this. And he was like, he was the manager, he played the manager of this place. I was like, get out of here. And I'm like, I don't like doing this. And I was 13, and I remember being so proud of myself that I could keep a straight face. Like, he'd be like, cut, and I'd be like, I didn't even laugh. I didn't even laugh.

• 18:32Amy Poehler?

  We laughed once, it was hilarious the whole time.

• 18:34Speaker 02

  I was funny the whole time, and I was keeping that in. And I wanted to laugh.

• 18:39Amy Poehler?

  Were you watching sketch at the time? Like, did he?

• 18:41Speaker 02

  I don't know that I was watching sketch.

• 18:43Amy Poehler?

  A lot of people have cool uncles who like introduce them to music and comedy.

• 18:46Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 18:47Amy Poehler?

  What were you watching at 13, or what were you into?

• 18:49Speaker 02

  I was watching The Office, and I was really obsessed with it. I was really obsessed with Dwight Schrute.

• 18:58Amy Poehler?

  Yes.

• 18:58Speaker 02

  And I wanted to, that's kind of why I wore the glasses as Esther, and like, I was obsessed with him in a big way, because he was doing the thing I wanted to do, which was being crazy.

• 19:10Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 19:10Speaker 02

  And committing to it. And what was crazy and funny was that he was doing it out of his own truth as a character. So he wasn't trying to go for the joke. What was funny was that he was, he thought this was serious. And it was that, yeah.

• 19:23Amy Poehler?

  Well, that is what is, I think is so interesting about your work, is like, I do think you come to it from an acting place, right?

• 19:31Speaker 02

  I love that.

• 19:31Amy Poehler?

  So did you, did you want to be, did you consider, when you were a young person, like, did you say I wanted to be comedian or do I want to be an actor?

• 19:39Speaker 02

  I don't think I knew the difference. I just knew, same with Steve Carell, I mean, like, his, the laughs he would get, I'd watch The Office just, my mom always got me the season for Christmas. Like, I knew it was coming, every Christmas was the new season in like the DVD set, because I would sit and watch it for hours. Because that's the whole, without realizing it, that is what they're all doing. They're all just acting really well.

• 20:04Amy Poehler?

  Right.

• 20:05Speaker 02

  And Steve Carell as well, just all this little inner work that he's doing.

• 20:09Amy Poehler?

  Right.

• 20:09Speaker 02

  Is getting the laugh. He's barely, sometimes has lines and he's getting a laugh.

• 20:12Amy Poehler?

  Yes.

• 20:13Speaker 02

  So.

• 20:13Amy Poehler?

  Yes.

• 20:14Speaker 02

  I didn't put two and two together, I just think it's, it just was natural. It was like, oh, that's how I get the laugh, is when I am so locked in. I remember there was this like, once, I remember there was this thing I did for a friend, my friend Sierra, we went to a museum. I don't know why, we were just like having a gal's day, as you do, you go to the museum.

• 20:36Amy Poehler?

  And drink grape juice and a can of wine.

• 20:38Speaker 02

  You know, okay, so you know. And we were doing that, and we were at the museum, and I was making her laugh because I was acting like the bench in the middle of the place with a piece of artwork, and I was like.

• 20:54Speaker 02

  It's real.

• 20:57Speaker 02

  And people started watching and she is crying nearby. And I remember writing down later at Groundlings in class, like, "The bench is beautiful. Believe the bench is beautiful. Believe it is, there's art all around this girl." But she thinks that's a piece of art. Believe it's beautiful. And it, it's like, just suspend people's, but I don't know it's a joke. You don't know you're funny. The character doesn't know they're funny.

• 21:21Amy Poehler?

  Mm-hmm. Never.

• 21:22Speaker 02

  Ever.

• 21:23Amy Poehler?

  So, did you come from a funny family? You have three siblings.

• 21:26Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 21:26Amy Poehler?

  What is your birth order?

• 21:28Speaker 02

  I'm second. So Lindsay's the oldest. It's me and then Sammy and Teddy. And they are, they would attest this. They're, they're all funnier than me.

• 21:35Amy Poehler?

  And funny mom?

• 21:37Speaker 02

  My mom is very funny.

• 21:38Amy Poehler?

  You're very close to your mom?

• 21:39Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 21:40Amy Poehler?

  And you're, I love that your mom was like, "You should go into comedy."

• 21:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:43Amy Poehler?

  That doesn't happen a lot, where someone's mom is like, "Think about comedy." She...

• 21:51Speaker 02

  Could you imagine if it didn't work out? And I was like, "Oh, what you did?" "I wanted to be an accountant." "Can't you make me go?" Groundlings? Yeah, she Googled comedy class and was like, "Go there."

• 22:02Amy Poehler?

  Okay, so what did she do for a job?

• 22:04Speaker 02

  She worked at Adobe.

• 22:06Amy Poehler?

  Mm-hmm.

• 22:07Speaker 02

  And worked her way up. Software and worked her way up. Like, didn't go to college, single mom, four children.

• 22:15Amy Poehler?

  Dang.

• 22:15Speaker 02

  At my age now.

• 22:16Amy Poehler?

  Oof.

• 22:18Speaker 02

  What?

• 22:18Amy Poehler?

  What?

• 22:19Speaker 02

  It doesn't make sense.

• 22:20Amy Poehler?

  No. Wow.

• 22:22Speaker 02

  Yeah. And so for her to do that, I mean, all four of us have unique talents. Like, we're all like, my sister has a hair salon. My little sister is a tattoo artist. Like, my little brother's a great screenwriter, also working as a nurse, but he writes these movies. Like, he, like, everyone, and she just watered those plants. She wasn't trying to make you not do it. She wasn't trying to, "Go, no, go do this, Ashley. Go play football," or whatever parents make you do.

• 22:49Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, go play football.

• 22:51Speaker 02

  I got lucky.

• 22:53Speaker 02

  She didn't make me do that.

• 22:55Amy Poehler?

  We all kind of learn by people modeling. For us, what did you learn about work by watching your mom work so hard?

• 23:01Speaker 02

  That she could, uh, she was just a hustler. She still is. She's just a hustler. Like, even at Adobe, working her way up at that company, you know? She, she became an executive producer of like, the live events. So when we would go, I did hair and makeup for a long time. That's how I would make money. And she would hire me to do hair and makeup, me and my sister, and at these big events. And you just see her on the headset and she's like, "What?" And I was like, "What a powerhouse." Like, she just knew what she wanted and like, was like, and all these like, love everyone that works there. A lot of men.

• 23:41Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 23:41Speaker 02

  And she's like, the one telling, like, producing. And it was just so cool. And I do think it influenced me and also her saying, "Go do this. Like, you can do it." But I just never had any fear. I never wondered if I was too small for the world or like...

• 23:56Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 23:56Speaker 02

  That never crossed my mind. Because she was such a great example of that.

• 23:59Amy Poehler?

  So cool.

• 24:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:01Amy Poehler?

  I mean, she says, "Okay, let's look up comedy clubs."

• 24:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:05Amy Poehler?

  And...

• 24:07Speaker 02

  It could have ended so badly. It's so crazy.

• 24:11Amy Poehler?

  And she's like, "You and I are going to a comedy club and you're gonna do comedy for your mother."

• 24:15Speaker 02

  It's crazy.

• 24:16Amy Poehler?

  Did you think that you, this was gonna be your job?

• 24:18Speaker 02

  No way. I was so, no way. No way. No. And I, I was so scared for life. Like, I was, I didn't go to college. I went for a week at community college. I left on a Friday. I went on a Monday, left on a Friday.

• 24:40Amy Poehler?

  You're like, "I left something in my car. I'll be right back."

• 24:42Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. I wish I should have done that. Instead, I pull aside.

• 24:47Amy Poehler?

  Oh.

• 24:48Speaker 02

  A teacher, who, not in charge of that. I go, "I'm talking to you." I pull him aside and I'm like, "I can't do this." And I don't know what I'm doing. And he was like, "So you need to go to the administration." "Don't, I'm teaching biology," or whatever. And I sobbed to him and I said, "I just can't do this. This isn't for me."

• 25:04Amy Poehler?

  Oh.

• 25:05Speaker 02

  Because I was seen there going, "I just got out of this."

• 25:08Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 25:08Speaker 02

  "I just got out of high school that I hated and almost failed."

• 25:11Amy Poehler?

  What kind of student were you?

• 25:12Speaker 02

  Oh, awful.

• 25:13Amy Poehler?

  I'm, I'm shocked.

• 25:15Speaker 02

  Awful.

• 25:16Amy Poehler?

  I'm shocked. You see, you're so smart. I'm shocked that you were...

• 25:19Speaker 02

  But I had no interest in anything they were putting out with that.

• 25:22Amy Poehler?

  You were like, "I'm never gonna need this."

• 25:24Speaker 02

  I said, "When am I gonna need this?"

• 25:28Speaker 02

  "You tell me and I will submit this homework." Because tell me.

• 25:33Amy Poehler?

  I'm trying to figure out your, don't worry, we'll cut this, Jenna. I'm trying to figure out your Enneagram number. Your disease. Because you're such a, this is very challengery.

• 25:42Speaker 02

  Wait, what?

• 25:44Amy Poehler?

  Well, but not being a good student?

• 25:47Speaker 02

  Bad girl. Not just not being a good student, bad girl.

• 25:51Amy Poehler?

  Tell me more. What do you mean? How'd you get in trouble?

• 25:53Speaker 02

  Arrested.

• 25:54Amy Poehler?

  No! Finally, we got to it.

• 25:58Speaker 02

  She's got a record. Talk to me, Badiya.

• 26:03Amy Poehler?

  Disorderly conduct? Was it some kind of, what was it? Shoplifting?

• 26:07Speaker 02

  Okay, here's what I was charged with. Okay. Obstruction of justice, resisting arrest.

• 26:16Amy Poehler?

  So cool.

• 26:17Speaker 02

  My mother pulling in as I'm cuffed on the cop car. Cuffed on top of the cop car. She pulls in, single mother. Pulls in in her boyfriend's truck.

• 26:29Amy Poehler?

  Headset still on.

• 26:32Speaker 02

  One second. She gets out and she's looking at me like, "Uh." Talking to the cop and he's like, "So we found her in the rose bush."

• 26:41Speaker 02

  My extensions, crazy. I've got my like, flip phone thing with a keyboard and I'm like, "My mom's, my mom's here." These cops.

• 26:53Speaker 02

  Basically, I was like, leave, I was like, running from a party.

• 26:57Amy Poehler?

  That's what I mean, running from a party.

• 26:59Speaker 02

  But there had been a hit and run down the way.

• 27:01Amy Poehler?

  Oh.

• 27:02Speaker 02

  And me, and I can't say his name. I had my fake Chanel. He had my fake Chanel.

• 27:07Amy Poehler?

  Mm-hmm.

• 27:09Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 27:10Amy Poehler?

  Did they care that it was fake? Did they get you?

• 27:12Speaker 02

  That's why I got arrested.

• 27:18Speaker 02

  Get over here. No, they, they arrested me because I hid in a rose bush for, I think, four hours. And when they pulled me out, I said, I said, and they wrote this down. They wrote this down. It was in the police report. I said, "It's about time you motherfuckers caught me."

• 27:38Amy Poehler?

  Ashley!

• 27:39Speaker 02

  For who? Why is that for?

• 27:43Amy Poehler?

  I love that.

• 27:44Speaker 02

  Who was that for? Was I on camera?

• 27:47Amy Poehler?

  I mean...

• 27:49Amy Poehler?

  What? Because you know what? Because what, you doubled down. Because you were like, you were nervous? And you were like, "I'm gonna go extra cocky." I can relate.

• 27:59Speaker 02

  I went so cocky. I was in a tube top, hair, 16. About time.

• 28:04Amy Poehler?

  So 16, "It's about time you guys caught me, motherfuckers."

• 28:07Speaker 02

  "It's about time you motherfuckers caught me." They...

• 28:12Amy Poehler?

  Dang.

• 28:12Speaker 02

  They cuff me and I was like, "Please uncuff me before my mother gets here." And they were like, "Fine." And they like, uncuff me. And I said, "How'd you guys know that I was there?" And they were like, "We had the place surrounded." And this bo, young boy who ran with me had your fake Chanel.

• 28:30Amy Poehler?

  What, did he also get arrested?

• 28:31Speaker 02

  Yes, he did. He got arrested and...

• 28:35Amy Poehler?

  So, did you go to court where charges dropped?

• 28:38Speaker 02

  Well, this is where it gets interesting, if it wasn't already. They were like, "Because you're 16 or something, we're not, this can be removed from your record if you go to court-ordered therapy with your mother."

• 28:58Amy Poehler?

  And your mother was like, "I'm busy."

• 29:00Speaker 02

  "Excuse me?"

• 29:02Amy Poehler?

  That's, that's punishment for her.

• 29:04Speaker 02

  I, she had to sit there. And I remember, love you, mom. She had these like, red nails, blonde hair. She's a working woman. She's sitting there and the therapist was like, "I want you guys to draw, oh, for me." And my mom was like, "No."

• 29:22Speaker 02

  And she was like, "Okay."

• 29:28Speaker 02

  And I remember, she like, didn't, she's like flipping her magazine, like, "I'm not doing that." And I drew something and they said, "Draw yourself and draw a house." That's what they said to do.

• 29:38Amy Poehler?

  Whoa.

• 29:39Speaker 02

  And I drew a house and myself and I shit, not me. The woman says, "Now, why did you draw yourself smaller than the house?"

• 29:50Speaker 02

  And I was like, "Because..." And my mom's like...

• 29:59Speaker 02

  The clock's ticking and...

• 30:05Speaker 02

  "Why did you try it?" And I was like, "To fit in the house."

• 30:11Speaker 02

  And she's like...

• 30:12Amy Poehler?

  No.

• 30:13Speaker 02

  Mm-mm. "You feel small." Like, it was like, crazy. And I was like...

• 30:18Speaker 02

  And I, meanwhile, I'm like, "My mom has to, I'm already in trouble." And my little brother had to come. I don't know why. And he was like, "I'll draw two." And he was drawing. And he drew a c- castle with a man named Fred getting electrocuted on the, on the side of the castle. And she said, "I'm gonna keep this one for the files." And my mom was driving. I'm like, "Great, now they're gonna take Teddy."

• 30:41Speaker 02

  "Now the court's gonna take Teddy." It was like...

• 30:46Amy Poehler?

  This is, you were a bad girl.

• 30:48Speaker 02

  She deserves an Oscar, if that's what we should give her. What is an Oscar for being a mom? She had to deal with some shit.

• 30:55Amy Poehler?

  Okay, so then she was like, take some,

• 31:00Amy Poehler?

  take some of your comedy fun. She was like, channel some of this into a professional experience.

• 31:07Speaker 02

  Yes, stop.

• 31:08Amy Poehler?

  Okay, stop.

• 31:09Speaker 02

  Stop.

• 31:10Amy Poehler?

  Stop.

• 31:11Speaker 02

  And like, I went and got a job at Sephora and they gave me a job. I mean, I just loved having a job that I actually liked. I was probably just, I was just in bliss. And like, there was a rule, you had to like, wear five articles of makeup at the time. So I learned to do makeup. I became like, an educational manager. I was like, rising up, like my mom did at her job. I was like, rising up and I didn't go to college and I was like, getting responsibilities and then...

• 31:38Amy Poehler?

  So you like to be the boss?

• 31:40Speaker 02

  I like to get the most out of everything. And I think sometimes, especially in worlds like that where there's like, you know, steps.

• 31:49Amy Poehler?

  Yes.

• 31:49Speaker 02

  I just like being the best at everything I'm doing and not against anyone else. I'm not trying to be better than anyone. I'm just like, how much more can I do?

• 31:57Amy Poehler?

  Yes.

• 31:58Speaker 02

  You know?

• 31:58Amy Poehler?

  That's why probably things like school, you're like, there's nowhere to grow here.

• 32:02Speaker 02

  There's nowhere to grow.

• 32:03Amy Poehler?

  You're like, what's past an A?

• 32:05Speaker 02

  And, and what?

• 32:08Speaker 02

  What? What? I'm sorry, I still, I stand by that. I'm like, doing all of that, oh my god, yeah. Unless you know what you're doing in high, I, um, go to school.

• 32:24Amy Poehler?

  I don't know. I don't know if you believe that.

• 32:26Speaker 02

  I, you know what?

• 32:27Amy Poehler?

  I don't know if you believe that when you say that.

• 32:28Speaker 02

  I guess I'm just like, unless you're interested in it. Unless you're interested in it, because

• 32:33Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 32:34Speaker 02

  to absorb information, you have to want to know.

• 32:36Amy Poehler?

  That's true.

• 32:37Speaker 02

  Right, to retain the information.

• 32:39Amy Poehler?

  Cause you didn't do theater in high school?

• 32:41Speaker 02

  No, I did one play because during Bad Girl, Bad Girl times, I didn't, I didn't submit, like, you're supposed to submit the, the classes you want to take. And I just didn't do it, so there, my mom's phone ringing again. They're like, she didn't do this. And so she had to come down to the principal's office and we had to like, fill out a thing together. And they were like, she was like, what's left? And they're like, theater. And she was, I was like, no, please don't make me. And I did it. And I remember, I, I didn't even tell anyone and I was like, in, what was it called? The Emperor's New Clothes? Is that what it's called?

• 33:14Amy Poehler?

  I don't know.

• 33:15Speaker 02

  You were there. I remember.

• 33:17Amy Poehler?

  The Emperor's New Clothes.

• 33:18Speaker 02

  You were scouting in the audience.

• 33:19Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, there was, yeah, it was in the audience.

• 33:22Speaker 02

  And I got the role of like, the lead, like princess. And I like, remember go, like floating down the aisle. I came from the audience to the stage, loved it, then pretended it never happened. I was like, put that away, that's crazy.

• 33:37Amy Poehler?

  Interesting.

• 33:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:38Amy Poehler?

  So loved it when you got it, you were like, stepping into it, here we go. So you're not so much introverted, very extroverted?

• 33:45Speaker 02

  Very extroverted, very loud, but just, yeah, not knowing you could make money on it, I guess.

• 33:50Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, sure. I mean, you, did you know anyone who was an actor or?

• 33:53Speaker 02

  No.

• 33:54Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 33:54Speaker 02

  No. And then, you know, you get to, I, I worked at Sephora and then my, my long time, my like, high school boyfriend who I love, he's the best. We broke up and I, I became so depressed. And there I was with money.

• 34:10Amy Poehler?

  Right.

• 34:10Speaker 02

  An apartment. I did the thing. I, I very quickly did the thing that like, you're supposed to do, you know? And when I saw it didn't make me happy, I was miserable. And now I don't have this boyfriend and I just felt so sad. And my mom was like, what if you try, you're funny, what if you tried this thing? Cause I'd made it to the top at, at Sephora in the way that I could. And like, I just, yeah, I felt so unhappy. And there was this quiet little voice in there that was like, wanting something more, but I didn't know what it was. And so I felt awful about myself. You're almost just like, something's wrong with me, like nothing's satisfying me.

• 34:51Amy Poehler?

  Hmm.

• 34:52Speaker 02

  And then my mom said that and then I, I went.

• 34:55Amy Poehler?

  You find your people at Groundlings.

• 34:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:58Amy Poehler?

  And for people that don't know who, you know, Groundlings, it's an improv and sketch group and hugely influential for so many people, like incredible alum came out of there. What were you doing for money when you were taking classes? Were you waiting tables?

• 35:12Speaker 02

  Makeup, makeup and working, yeah, in restaurants. Yeah, I was doing weddings and, and makeup jobs and I did like, music videos or like, just like, I, I did this, I forget who the artist was. I can't even say it.

• 35:29Speaker 02

  They made me like, cold hard cash, just like a thing of cash.

• 35:32Amy Poehler?

  Okay.

• 35:33Speaker 02

  And when I first got to LA, I mean, it was just...

• 35:35Amy Poehler?

  Just whatever you could do.

• 35:36Speaker 02

  Just whatever I could do.

• 35:38Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 35:38Speaker 02

  When I first got to LA, I got a job at the church key. It was like this American style dim sum place. And I had to dress up as a Pan Am stewardess.

• 35:52Speaker 02

  With a little hat, a little outfit and heels. And I once came in with flats and they were like, no, no, no, no, no.

• 35:59Amy Poehler?

  They were like, honey.

• 36:00Speaker 02

  Go to your car or find something. And I had to go buy heels. And I came back and I pushed around a dim sum cart that, where I made liquid nitrogen alcoholic Otter Pops. So I take the Otter Pop, which one would you like? Put it in the thing, pour liquid nitrogen, no gloves, because I want you to look good. Burning myself, like, burning myself. And I'm twen, I think I was 20 because I remember they like, let me do it, maybe?

• 36:30Amy Poehler?

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• 39:37Amy Poehler?

  So you go to Groundlings. How do you get the audition for SNL?

• 39:42Speaker 02

  I had been working for Diane Keaton, actually, for a long time.

• 39:49Amy Poehler?

  Okay, so let's talk about Diane.

• 39:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:50Amy Poehler?

  So you were her assistant.

• 39:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:52Amy Poehler?

  And where, how did you two meet? How did you get that job?

• 39:55Speaker 02

  When I moved to LA, my mother's friend's sister was her main assistant. And was like, let's grab coffee. And we had a coffee and her name's Stephanie. She's the best. She's taught me everything. Her and Diane have taught me so much. It is crazy. I can't believe it, even looking back. Like even just down to like getting me my first real purse. You know, I had a fake shit. Like I love, I love fashion and all that stuff. And they just, they're just the best. And like, they just taught me so much. And I meet with her and she goes, you know, we're always looking for someone to do errands and all that stuff.

• 40:38Speaker 02

  And at the time, I didn't, you know, Diane Keaton, I knew her as the mom from Family Stone.

• 40:43Amy Poehler?

  Right.

• 40:44Speaker 02

  I did not watch Annie Hall. I had not seen The Godfather and all that. She made me watch those movies. She did. She said, you haven't seen Annie Hall? You're gonna go home and you're gonna watch it and tell me what you think. And I did. And I watched The Godfather. She asked me what I thought. She was so incredible. And it really did start as like a small job, just like come and, you know, help at this party. And I did. And I remember them sort of like chatting like, what are we gonna do? And then, and then she was like, well, what about, you know, her? Is she, is she, is she working? And so I did. I took on that job. And it started with the kids. And then it turned into like, oh, well, can you run Diane's Instagram? And I was like, okay. And then that turned into, well, you gotta, you know, spend time with Diane. You guys gotta look at videos and make stuff for her Instagram. And then it just all snowballed.

• 41:29Speaker 02

  And slowly it, it became my whole life at a time. Like, reading scripts and, and working on projects. And we eventually sold a book together and...

• 41:44Amy Poehler?

  Okay, so when you're, when you're running her Instagram, which was often in all caps.

• 41:49Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 41:50Amy Poehler?

  Was that her writing?

• 41:52Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 41:52Amy Poehler?

  Okay.

• 41:53Speaker 02

  She was like, make sure that's...

• 41:55Amy Poehler?

  In caps.

• 41:56Speaker 02

  Yelling at the audience.

• 41:59Speaker 02

  It's so funny because it's, it's so crazy how quickly it became my own. Like, all right, yes, that's like, like, it was normal.

• 42:07Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 42:07Speaker 02

  She is so special.

• 42:09Amy Poehler?

  She is. She's really one in a million. She's so original. Like she had this thing that, how would you describe, how would you describe that thing she had? That's like...

• 42:20Speaker 02

  Magic.

• 42:20Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 42:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's freaky.

• 42:22Amy Poehler?

  It was so delightful and playful. And eccentric isn't really quite the right word. It was just like very, very original, how she moved through life.

• 42:33Speaker 02

  She's very special. She just floated around like a butterfly. She was like a butterfly. And she really was, even working with her, she was like, oh, look, look at this. Like she taught me to see the world around me. The shapes. As silly as that sounds, she'd go, look at the building. She would stop, she'd pull over. Do you see this? My God, the tree! The way the light comes, she got me to like, notice everything, as if I was with a child. It's so crazy. It was wonder, like a child, that she kept into her 70s. And that's what's rare. It's not that she was any different than anybody else. She was just willing to, to, to stick with that and keep that wonder that goes away at

• 43:18Speaker 02

  some point.

• 43:19Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 43:20Speaker 02

  Because it taught me that it was even going away in myself. Because she brought it back and now I see those things. I stop and I go, oh my God, I love the way that that shape is. And like, those are, that's my daily life now because of her. And I see pictures and I love images and even making the book with her. Like, you know, every page and every image and like, what's better? And why does this need to be black and white and, and not have color? Why, why do you like this contrast? It's like, it's such a gift. It's crazy. It's like school. That's the school, right? That's the stuff that I'm going, holy shit, I'm retaining everything.

• 43:57Amy Poehler?

  Wow. And what, what book did you make together? What, what was it about?

• 44:00Speaker 02

  Fashion first. Because her and I have a love for collaging and pictures. And she got me into that. And we tried to sell a collage book that no one was interested in. I mean, I'm going, it's Diane Keaton! Everyone was like, you're crazy if you think we are making this book because no one's gonna buy it. And the, just getting the rights for the images will be crazy because the mouth belongs to someone else and the eyes. And we're going, make it happen! And she was so pissed that no one wanted to make this. But as I was doing research for that book, I went, oh, hold on now. Why don't you have a fashion book? And I showed her all of the images I brought. I came to work one day, I remember I was so nervous. And Stephanie kind of gave me the sign off.

• 44:45Speaker 02

  She's like, show her this. Because Stephanie had been kind of trying to tell her for a long time to do this thing. And I came with images because that's her language.

• 44:52Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 44:53Speaker 02

  And I was like, look at all of your outfits. Look at everything you've done. Look at, you know what I mean? And when I showed her all of them, she went, okay, this is good. And we pitched it.

• 45:01Amy Poehler?

  She was like, okay, I am very stylish.

• 45:02Speaker 02

  That's when we showed Ritzoli. And then that's when they were like, all right, we'll, we'll make this. Yeah. I couldn't believe she let me design it. She let me design the cover. She let me design the book. She let me do everything. And I went, but I've never made a book before. And she's like, you, you will figure it out.

• 45:18Amy Poehler?

  So cool.

• 45:18Speaker 02

  She had no doubt.

• 45:20Amy Poehler?

  Yes.

• 45:21Speaker 02

  It's weird.

• 45:21Amy Poehler?

  How amazing, Ashley.

• 45:24Speaker 02

  I know.

• 45:25Amy Poehler?

  What a loss.

• 45:26Speaker 02

  She's so special.

• 45:27Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 45:28Speaker 02

  And she, she really cared about me. She would come to Groundling shows when like, why were you there?

• 45:35Amy Poehler?

  Going to comedy.

• 45:36Speaker 02

  I always said to her, I said, you shouldn't come to this.

• 45:42Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 45:42Speaker 02

  And I mean it. And she was like, I'm coming.

• 45:47Speaker 02

  And I'm gonna wear a tutu and a big old hat.

• 45:50Amy Poehler?

  Yep.

• 45:50Speaker 02

  And I said, I even said, the first time she came, I said, please, you know, I just don't want you to get mobbed, is what it was. I just felt like, ugh! I also kept the two very separate, right?

• 45:58Amy Poehler?

  Sure.

• 45:59Speaker 02

  You're being a struggling comedian. You know? And then I go to this icon's house. I was living a double life.

• 46:07Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 46:07Speaker 02

  And then when the two would come together, I remember she was like, I'll lay low. I'll lay low. And I was like, okay, great. I'm looking through the thing when she arrives. And she's in the biggest tutu and biggest, excuse me, excuse me! Getting, her tutu's getting on people. Excuse me, excuse me! And every time she was laughing, yes!

• 46:31Speaker 02

  Every skit, ah!

• 46:33Amy Poehler?

  I mean, she really was a fairy godmother. And she dressed like a fairy godmother.

• 46:37Speaker 02

  She dressed like a fairy godmother. She was a fairy godmother. And I was just like, and everyone backstage, Diane Keaton! I know. She's here.

• 46:45Amy Poehler?

  So she helped you get the audition? She, like, she encouraged you to audition? She basically believed that you could do it and therefore...

• 46:53Speaker 02

  She believed I could do it, but I will say, I mean, everyone believed in me. But, but nothing was happening. And so I was going to quit.

• 47:02Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, talk, talk to me about that. You were just, you were thinking...

• 47:05Speaker 02

  I was tired.

• 47:06Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 47:07Speaker 02

  It had been, I mean, like you said, you're like, you came into SNL kind of fully formed, but it's because I, I, I respect what people are doing online with the comedy. I'm not good at that. And so every time the opportunity came up, it was like, well, do something online. Do front-facing comedy, do all that. I resisted the urge because it just wasn't for me. And I went, well, if that's not for me, I kind of associated it with, well, then I guess I'm not willing to do the work, which wasn't true. I was always doing the work. I was doing live shows, just who's in the audience? Not, you know, no one that can really make a career for you.

• 47:45Amy Poehler?

  No Guffman's.

• 47:46Speaker 02

  There's no, there's no Guffman!

• 47:47Amy Poehler?

  Where's the Guffman?

• 47:48Speaker 02

  Where is Guffman? We're waiting!

• 47:53Speaker 02

  So I, I just felt tired. And I was like, fuck this. I, I, I decided I, I was more willing to decide to live my life.

• 48:05Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 48:05Speaker 02

  I was like, I'm done. I'm done with the, will I get the, will I? I just made a book. I was like, there's other ways to make money and be creative. That's what she taught me. And I was like, I'm done. I'm just fucking done. I'll figure out something else. I just want to be happy. And, and that does not lie in waiting to see if this commercial is gonna call me after pinning me. You know what I mean?

• 48:28Amy Poehler?

  Yes, yes.

• 48:29Speaker 02

  I was like, no, I'm just done. And that's when, you know, Naomi Odenkirk, who is...

• 48:34Amy Poehler?

  Yep, Bob Odenkirk's wife, very famous manager.

• 48:37Speaker 02

  She is unreal. She, we went to breakfast and she was like, what do you do? Like, what have you been doing? You're like traveling with Diane. Like, what is your life? Like, and I'm like, I guess I just, I'm like, I don't know. Like, I'm just not doing it anymore, I guess. Like, I don't want to perform live anymore. I was losing that interest because I hit my, I hit the ceiling of what I could do.

• 48:57Amy Poehler?

  Right.

• 48:58Speaker 02

  I made main, I like did everything. And it was just like, all right, I guess this is, this path is done. I love performing, but this is no longer serving me to become a better person within myself.

• 49:10Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 49:10Speaker 02

  I felt stunted. And then she said, well, let me try one more thing and let's do this Party of Three show, which was me, Chris Kleckner and Alex Bonifort. She's like, we'll do your best stuff. Because I didn't want to do it alone. And she was like, pick your friends, they're dear friends. And we're always in each other's stuff. So we did a show. And then that kind of caught some momentum. And then we were in Netflix as a joke. And then it was, SNL wants you to showcase. And then I was, I was like, okay. And they came to Party of Three and then they asked me to showcase after the show. So I performed, they just see me. And then I ran over to UCB Franklin and did it.

• 49:43Amy Poehler?

  What impressions did you do?

• 49:44Speaker 02

  Oh, God.

• 49:45Amy Poehler?

  I know.

• 49:46Speaker 02

  I did Diane. I did Diane, actually, because I was like, I don't do impressions. Who am I around the most? Diane. And she's so funny. I did her like voiceover. I did like her doing a voiceover for like Planet Earth, where she's just yelling that they're hurting each other. Because she's so, we're hurting each other!

• 50:05Speaker 02

  She's just so funny. And that was an easy one. And then, oh my God, I don't even know what else I did. I, I'm not good at impressions. And that's something that I've always been like, well, then I guess I'm not good for SNL.

• 50:14Amy Poehler?

  Oh, isn't it funny? Because it's, I, I'm not good at impressions either. And if, and it's like, it's a weird thing where someone's like, so just also, I guess it would be like if you're applying for a job and they're like, also just do a little bit of painting.

• 50:29Speaker 02

  100%.

• 50:31Amy Poehler?

  Just, just also you just have to do three paintings.

• 50:33Speaker 02

  You're my lawyer? I just need you to do three paintings.

• 50:36Speaker 02

  Just three.

• 50:37Amy Poehler?

  And you're like, okay, I'll do, I'll do the best I can at painting.

• 50:39Speaker 02

  And do it at the opening before you even go into your lawyering. Do the cold open.

• 50:43Amy Poehler?

  Do the paintings first, before we talk about the lawyering. And on your way to doing the painting, walk past forty people who are really good at painting.

• 50:52Speaker 02

  Really good at painting.

• 50:54Amy Poehler?

  Make sure you take a look at their photos.

• 50:56Speaker 02

  That makes me feel so much better because I, I made the mistake of thinking, once I got the show, that they were like, surely they're not gonna ask me. I'm bad at it. No, they're gonna ask you, and they're gonna ask you a lot. They're gonna tell you.

• 51:06Amy Poehler?

  What have you done? What have you, what political impressions have you done on the show so far?

• 51:10Speaker 02

  We shouldn't call them impressions. We just shouldn't label it as an impression.

• 51:15Amy Poehler?

  Okay, political characters. Who have you played?

• 51:18Speaker 02

  I did Kristi Noem.

• 51:20Amy Poehler?

  Oh, yeah, Kristi Noem, that's right.

• 51:21Speaker 02

  I did Pam Bondi.

• 51:23Amy Poehler?

  Both of them, both of them.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  I watched yours.

• 51:28Amy Poehler?

  Gone.

• 51:28Speaker 02

  I know, I know.

• 51:30Amy Poehler?

  Totally gone.

• 51:31Speaker 02

  I know. And then I did Caroline Levitt. All of them, just.

• 51:33Amy Poehler?

  Yep.

• 51:34Speaker 02

  Not even scraping the surface of what. I watched you and Tina, because I had, I did, you both did it.

• 51:43Amy Poehler?

  And then you had to go and do both of them.

• 51:45Speaker 02

  I had to go do both of them. And just more iconic women, cooler women from the show did it, and then, and then me. And I was like.

• 51:52Amy Poehler?

  Oh, my God.

• 51:53Speaker 02

  I was like, why are you guys making me do this? And I was like, can you get me to come back?

• 51:55Amy Poehler?

  That was like when, that was like when Forte had to do Bush, um, after Will Ferrell left.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  It's so not fair.

• 52:04Amy Poehler?

  Okay, but did you bring any Groundlings characters to SNL?

• 52:07Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, I did, I did my haircut, uh, sketch.

• 52:12Amy Poehler?

  You did for your audition?

• 52:13Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 52:14Amy Poehler?

  Oh, that's cool.

• 52:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, I did haircut, I did.

• 52:18Amy Poehler?

  God, that sketch.

• 52:18Speaker 02

  I did Kathy a bit. I did this woman Kathy for, um, Jack Black, but she sort of changed. Because that's what's been interesting, is that I brought so much to the show, like, came in like, I've got all this stuff. And then you realize it's just such a different medium, even though they're both sketch. You gotta be a little punchier, you need to like.

• 52:41Amy Poehler?

  Well, it's funny you say that, because, so, we do this thing on the show where we talk to somebody who knows our guests, so we can talk well behind their back, and we talked to Andrew today, Andrew Dismu.

• 52:49Speaker 02

  Oh, that's so sweet.

• 52:50Amy Poehler?

  He was in his hotel room.

• 52:52Speaker 02

  That is so sweet.

• 52:53Amy Poehler?

  Drinking black coffee.

• 52:55Speaker 02

  I thought you were gonna say drinking whiskey or something.

• 52:58Amy Poehler?

  Drinking whiskey out of a bottle.

• 53:00Speaker 02

  And he's doing bad.

• 53:01Amy Poehler?

  He's doing badly.

• 53:01Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 53:03Amy Poehler?

  Yeah. And he's, we're very worried about him.

• 53:07Speaker 02

  So he asked you for some money?

• 53:08Amy Poehler?

  Yep, and it was really appropriate.

• 53:11Speaker 02

  Great.

• 53:11Amy Poehler?

  No, he had just done a show, he was, he was drinking black coffee in a hotel room, and we were talking about you. And he is so lovely, and, and worked so hard on that show, and loves working with you.

• 53:23Speaker 02

  He's the best.

• 53:24Amy Poehler?

  And his question for you was, what at Groundlings helps you prepare for SNL? Because we were kind of joking that, like, in many ways, it feels like a mini SNL camp there. Like, people get really prepared, but you're saying that it also, it did and it didn't. What did it do to help you to get ready for the show?

• 53:45Speaker 02

  I mean, it forces you to write for yourself. If there is anything I could ever tell, like, young comedians, but also just like, young women, because, especially for myself, like, I mean, gosh, even Diane. I mean, like, the scripts she was getting versus what I knew she was capable of, sometimes, like, just like, the writing for women sometimes bothers me in a way that I cannot.

• 54:11Amy Poehler?

  Let's talk about it for a second. What bothers you? Because I, I know what you mean, it's like.

• 54:16Speaker 02

  I just feel like sometimes we're not as portrayed as.

• 54:19Amy Poehler?

  Complex.

• 54:21Speaker 02

  Yes. I was gonna say aggressively, because I'm like, we're just, we got shit going on, it's complex, it's deep, it's, it's so nuanced. It's like, I have so many things about me that I wanna see on screen, and, and in comedy, and, and, and I do wonder sometimes if, um, to get there, we just need to be a little more willing to write for ourselves. And that's what, that's what Groundlings did for me, was you do not get on that stage unless you are writing something for yourself.

• 54:51Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 54:51Speaker 02

  I mean, you might be in some people's stuff, maybe, but like, it's the same at SNL. It's like, you can raid around all day.

• 54:57Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 54:57Speaker 02

  For someone to write something for you, or you can just write it yourself.

• 54:59Amy Poehler?

  Right.

• 55:00Speaker 02

  And I feel that way with movies as well. Like, I'm so lucky to be now, like, getting to do movies, but I'm still writing. I am writing so much, and I will never stop, because I have to speak for myself.

• 55:12Amy Poehler?

  Right.

• 55:12Speaker 02

  And it just creates this confidence, and that's what it prepared me for, was showing up and going, all right, none of these writers know who I am.

• 55:20Amy Poehler?

  Right.

• 55:20Speaker 02

  And nor should they. They've got their own, should they have to write the cold, like, they're doing stuff.

• 55:25Amy Poehler?

  They're busy.

• 55:25Speaker 02

  They're busy. They're writing for Amy Poehler, like, it's like, they've got a host.

• 55:29Amy Poehler?

  They've got a host.

• 55:29Speaker 02

  They're not going, what is Ash? Like, no. So then I went, all right, then I'm gonna write. And then that's what makes people wanna work with you, is they're like, okay, she knows what she wants to do. And that's where it's, oh, my gosh, like, Alison Gates, Kent Sublet, like, showing up and helping me make it more SNL, more for television. It's gotta be a little punchier, it's gotta be choppy, it's gotta like, the cuts, camera cuts. And like, you can't do what you do at Groundlings where I can linger, because there's no time constraint. It's like, we gotta get to it.

• 55:59Amy Poehler?

  But you know, you have an interesting quality that's really awesome to watch, which is you do not rush, and you take your time, and you have great timing, and it, it's thrilling, because we all know the construct of that show. There's like, just not a lot of time. And so, the luxury of having a little bit of time, taking a little time, it, it's, it feels transgressive. And when it's done by somebody who knows what they're doing, it's really fun.

• 56:25Speaker 02

  It is my favorite thing to do, I will, it's like my, my, it's just so like, I remember even with the haircut sketch, there was a talk about cutting stuff, and the first thing to go is, you know, those pauses at the beginning. Well, let's just cut your entrance, but, but, please let me have that, because I need to say hi to the audience real quick in a way that's like, let me show you what I'm feeling, and then we'll get into it. Because I like watching people behave. And to behave, it's not rushed. To feel nervous or anxious or embarrassed, being embarrassed takes a little time.

• 57:05Speaker 02

  It's like, that feeling, it's just, I love it, and it like, and then now they're on your side, I hope, because they're in on the joke with you.

• 57:13Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 57:14Speaker 02

  You know, and then those other jokes pop. That's that, like, song that I like to play, is like, it's just a bit of a dance, I like it.

• 57:22Amy Poehler?

  God, it's so true about behavior, because we don't really often remember what sketches are about. Like, the idea is like, what? I don't even remember the idea, like, someone's mad at someone about whatever. It's these like, little human behavior moments that are so funny and weird.

• 57:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:40Amy Poehler?

  You're so good at them. I mean.

• 57:41Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 57:41Amy Poehler?

  That sketch, there's, there's a sketch where you are surprised by your coworkers, uh, for your birthday, and you fart.

• 57:49Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 57:50Amy Poehler?

  You fart.

• 57:51Speaker 02

  I couldn't believe that got on television. That was put on TVs.

• 57:56Amy Poehler?

  That's right, it's on TV forever.

• 57:57Speaker 02

  Families saw that.

• 57:59Amy Poehler?

  You're moaning after.

• 58:02Speaker 02

  We.

• 58:05Amy Poehler?

  Like, in terms of the, the real estate of the sketch, it takes up a lot of time.

• 58:09Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 58:10Amy Poehler?

  Your reaction to like, what did I do? What just happened? How am I gonna get through this? Is all conveyed in like, a, a, like, twenty, maybe twenty-five seconds of moaning.

• 58:21Speaker 02

  And that was not really in rehearsal. That's where I want you to apologize to everyone, is I, something took over there. And that's where the audience is like, I'm sure you felt this. I mean, it's why we love live, is like, you can rehearse something all day.

• 58:35Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 58:36Speaker 02

  But until you're in front of a crowd and know what they are gonna give you, they loved the fart. So then I went, well, shit, let's sit.

• 58:46Amy Poehler?

  Here we go.

• 58:47Speaker 02

  Here, let's sit in the pain of this. I love arrogance. Oh, my, what is funnier?

• 58:53Amy Poehler?

  Me too.

• 58:54Speaker 02

  What is funnier than someone being like, happy, guys, I farted? Know what you guys wanted?

• 58:59Amy Poehler?

  What?

• 59:02Speaker 02

  It's like.

• 59:03Amy Poehler?

  I total, I also played a character who very, was very cocky about the fact that she farted. I was like, she accused people of being jealous. There was a show called Rock of Love, which was like, like a dating show, and I played a one-legged character who farted when she jumped around.

• 59:23Speaker 02

  Okay, sure.

• 59:25Amy Poehler?

  And she was like, so I farted, jealous? She said jealous, and I'm almost like, no, we're not jealous.

• 59:33Speaker 02

  It is the epitome of why I wanna do comedy for the rest of my life.

• 59:36Amy Poehler?

  It would be so fun to do, hopping around on one leg, being like, because I was, she considered herself a real catch. And you know what? That's all it takes.

• 59:45Speaker 02

  That's also my favorite, is when someone's like, you wanna fuck me?

• 59:48Amy Poehler?

  No!

• 59:51Speaker 02

  Want some of that? No!

• 59:53Amy Poehler?

  Totally, I love that.

• 59:54Speaker 02

  I want none of it. That is fantastic.

• 59:57Amy Poehler?

  You and Andrew work so well together, by the way.

• 1:00:00Speaker 02

  He does the, he's what we're talking about. I mean, his stuff is grounded in

• 1:00:05Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:05Speaker 02

  realism. Like, he's like, but it's absurd.

• 1:00:08Amy Poehler?

  He writes a lot for the show.

• 1:00:09Speaker 02

  That's all. He's, he's got a very clear voice.

• 1:00:11Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:12Amy Poehler?

  And do you feel like, starting, you started at the 50th year, was it weird?

• 1:00:17Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:00:17Amy Poehler?

  Was it weird to start with, like, every person coming back all the time?

• 1:00:23Speaker 02

  I, and mind you, no one knew who I wa, like, like, Emile and Jane are so proactive with their careers that they had a following, they were coming in, you know, they had fans to watch them. People tuning in were going, who is this woman? What is she doing? And I was going, I don't know. I don't know. And then I would sit in my dressing room and I was like, oh, man. Who hired me? Do they know I'm here? And then to the point where when I came back for this last season, I was sitting in my dressing room the whole first show, not in a single thing.

• 1:00:59Amy Poehler?

  Oh, yeah, okay.

• 1:01:00Speaker 02

  And then I did my sketch, last sketch of the show. And

• 1:01:05Amy Poehler?

  Which is often the best one.

• 1:01:06Speaker 02

  It can be. It's sort of like a hail mary. It's like, yeah, there, there, I do, I did love that slot. And the more you get on the show, the less you get that slot sometimes, which I do, that slot is fun.

• 1:01:18Amy Poehler?

  Yeah. And I also want to talk to you about your haircut.

• 1:01:21Speaker 02

  Oh, okay. Okay.

• 1:01:24Amy Poehler?

  Because it's such a bold move to cut your hair in the middle of a season.

• 1:01:30Speaker 02

  I think they'd all say that, too.

• 1:01:31Amy Poehler?

  Did you have to get, did you have to get permission? Like, I mean, you're

• 1:01:36Speaker 02

  It's unfair what I did to these, it's unfair.

• 1:01:38Amy Poehler?

  You begged for forgiveness. You did not ask for permission. You just did it.

• 1:01:41Speaker 02

  I went shorter than I said I was going.

• 1:01:42Amy Poehler?

  What's your relationship with Lorne?

• 1:01:44Speaker 02

  I just really, really admire him. I just think he's so smart and I can't believe someone was put on this earth to give people like you and I, I don't know if you think this, but like, being funny is so insane. Like, it's like, what are you here for?

• 1:02:09Speaker 02

  You make a slot, I don't know, not to diminish, but it's like, at the end of the day, it's like

• 1:02:13Amy Poehler?

  I, believe me, it's like, I mean, it's, it's so funny. I mean, there are really important jobs in the world, and then

• 1:02:21Speaker 02

  We're like, jealous.

• 1:02:25Speaker 02

  I'll take my money now.

• 1:02:30Amy Poehler?

  Totally, you're like, I mean, I, it's totally true.

• 1:02:35Speaker 02

  It's sick. We should be on the cop car waiting for our moms to pick us up. It is sick what we do.

• 1:02:45Speaker 02

  It's sick!

• 1:02:46Amy Poehler?

  It's so true.

• 1:02:47Speaker 02

  It's not okay.

• 1:02:48Amy Poehler?

  And we treat it very, and people treat it like it's very important, and it's

• 1:02:53Speaker 02

  You cut the second fart?

• 1:02:56Speaker 02

  I can't cut the second fart. The second fart makes the third fart work. I've got my desk by midnight.

• 1:03:04Amy Poehler?

  That's why when you watch shows about people making comedy, it makes me laugh so hard. Because it is so serious. Everyone's

• 1:03:11Speaker 02

  Taking stuff seriously, that's what we love. But to go back to, it's like, Lorne found a way to give those people jobs?

• 1:03:22Speaker 02

  You gave us a place to work? Holy hell.

• 1:03:26Amy Poehler?

  But let me get back to your haircut. Sorry, long thing, but you cut your hair incredible, looks incredible.

• 1:03:32Speaker 02

  Hey, thank you.

• 1:03:33Amy Poehler?

  Do you love having short hair?

• 1:03:35Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, I've had it before. That's where the haircut sketch came from, was me shaving it too short and pretending I liked it and that it was what I meant to do. And I was like, this is, ooh, a buzz. This is good.

• 1:03:48Amy Poehler?

  I'm kind of obsessed, the politics of hair. Like, hair means something on the show.

• 1:03:52Speaker 02

  That's why I shaved it. I mean, originally.

• 1:03:54Amy Poehler?

  Really? Why? What do you mean?

• 1:03:55Speaker 02

  Because I don't like being told what is feminine. Do you know what I mean? And there's something inherently, like, like, long hair is, it's like, no, what's, no, when do I feel the prettiest? Because people, whenever they mean it, your hair is so beautiful, it's so long, it's like, I don't really want that to be the first thing you think of. It was like, I like to be open and fresh and like, vulnerable. It makes me feel vulnerable because I can't hide. And like, I like feeling open and like, you can see my face, and I was, I was wearing so many wigs and, yeah, it just feels a little like, I don't know, dominant, like, not dominant, it's like

• 1:04:34Amy Poehler?

  Well, you have an interesting play with mask and femme stuff and the way you dress, too. And Diane, of course, is like, that kind of like, what is your relationship to like, what is typically masculine or typically feminine? Would you, do you like to play around with that?

• 1:04:48Speaker 02

  Yes, and it's crazy how much of an influence Diane was on that because making the fashion book, we have a photo together where we're wearing the same exact outfit because I showed up to work dressed like her, not even realizing it. And we took a picture. And when I went into her office, and I say it was framed, she printed it out and framed it. And it's this image, I'm like, holy shit, you taught me that, like, I don't have to be in this world for a man's approval, which is something I think I was doing for a long time. And that's, that's so sad to say it out loud, but it's just the truth. I don't know if it's the, you know,

• 1:05:25Amy Poehler?

  Welcome to the

• 1:05:25Speaker 02

  Father issues, I mean, like, right?

• 1:05:27Amy Poehler?

  Patriarchy, yes.

• 1:05:29Speaker 02

  I was always like, oh, my God, vulnerable to take my makeup off and like,

• 1:05:33Amy Poehler?

  Yes.

• 1:05:33Speaker 02

  have my hair done and be hot?

• 1:05:37Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:40Speaker 02

  So what?

• 1:05:43Amy Poehler?

  To, by the way, for who?

• 1:05:44Speaker 02

  For who?

• 1:05:45Amy Poehler?

  To who?

• 1:05:46Speaker 02

  To who?

• 1:05:47Amy Poehler?

  And for how long?

• 1:05:48Speaker 02

  For how long?

• 1:05:52Speaker 02

  For how long? Because Mama, tie tie. I have to go to bed bed. Tie tie, done done.

• 1:06:01Amy Poehler?

  Seriously.

• 1:06:02Speaker 02

  Fuck.

• 1:06:02Amy Poehler?

  Fuck.

• 1:06:03Speaker 02

  Fuck off. And this is even, fuck you. I'm done.

• 1:06:07Amy Poehler?

  And hotter than ever, though, Ashley.

• 1:06:08Speaker 02

  Okay, honey.

• 1:06:10Amy Poehler?

  Hotter, I mean, it looks incredible.

• 1:06:13Speaker 02

  Okay, thank you. It's funny because I feel hotter.

• 1:06:17Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:17Speaker 02

  Because I'm myself. I mean, I told Jodi, Jodi was like

• 1:06:21Amy Poehler?

  Jodi Mancuso, who runs the SNL Hair Department, who Bronx Speed is based on.

• 1:06:26Speaker 02

  Sweater weather.

• 1:06:27Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:27Speaker 02

  And I said to her, she was like, your hair's so pretty, and she's the best. I mean, she was so supportive and she was like, you know, she didn't know what I looked like with short hair. So she's going, what are you talking about? You want to chop all your hair off?

• 1:06:42Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:42Speaker 02

  And I'm like, I finally got so dramatic. This is what's funny, right? I went, my soul says I have to do this. She's probably like, just do it, idiot. God, stop texting me. I was like, please. She was like, do it.

• 1:06:56Amy Poehler?

  Do it.

• 1:06:56Speaker 02

  And I feel amazed. Because it's also the thing you're saying, maybe, with the challenge, it's like permission. It was the permission part, too.

• 1:07:03Amy Poehler?

  Yeah. I think it's really interesting, and I think it's very cool.

• 1:07:06Speaker 02

  Thank you. Liberating.

• 1:07:08Amy Poehler?

  Liberating, and also just getting back to the initial theme of, of you, is that you have a, you have a, like, you're self-possessed in a way that's very inviting. It doesn't feel like you're an island and no one can know you or interact with you.

• 1:07:23Speaker 02

  That's nice to know that.

• 1:07:24Amy Poehler?

  It's really, really, but, but there's just something about you that feels like you kind of have a sense of who you are and what you like, and you write that way, you perform that way, and it's really intoxicating to be around.

• 1:07:35Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:07:35Amy Poehler?

  You're welcome.

• 1:07:36Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:07:36Amy Poehler?

  So we're gonna end with impressions.

• 1:07:42Speaker 02

  Down, down to camera?

• 1:07:43Amy Poehler?

  No.

• 1:07:45Speaker 02

  Do you want to do 10 impressions? How many do you want?

• 1:07:46Amy Poehler?

  But you know what we used to do? We used to play a game, we used to play a game where you had to do an impression of somebody

• 1:07:52Speaker 02

  Why are you doing this to me?

• 1:07:53Amy Poehler?

  In 10 seconds or you die.

• 1:07:56Speaker 02

  Do you mean to kill me legally?

• 1:07:57Amy Poehler?

  So

• 1:07:57Speaker 02

  Is that the paperwork I signed on the way in?

• 1:08:00Amy Poehler?

  So you will give each other someone to do.

• 1:08:02Speaker 02

  Are you serious?

• 1:08:04Amy Poehler?

  Yes, and you have to do it. It does not have to be good. Only a five-second impersonation.

• 1:08:09Speaker 02

  You said 10.

• 1:08:10Amy Poehler?

  Oh, I said 10. Okay, I changed it to 5.

• 1:08:12Speaker 02

  You're like, 5, 5, 5.

• 1:08:13Amy Poehler?

  5.

• 1:08:14Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:08:14Amy Poehler?

  Okay.

• 1:08:15Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:08:15Amy Poehler?

  5-second impersonation. And I'll just throw out a name, and then you can throw it out for me.

• 1:08:21Amy Poehler?

  It's really fun. It's really fun. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Let me think. Okay, ready? And you can't think, you can't think about it. You just have to go. It doesn't matter.

• 1:08:29Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:08:30Amy Poehler?

  Austin Butler.

• 1:08:31Speaker 02

  Whoa!

• 1:08:33Amy Poehler?

  There we go. We got him. We got him.

• 1:08:36Speaker 02

  Whoa!

• 1:08:39Speaker 02

  Aye! What are we thinking of this?

• 1:08:44Speaker 02

  Should I bring him to the show? Should I do it? Should I bring him to season three?

• 1:08:49Amy Poehler?

  Okay, give me one.

• 1:08:50Speaker 02

  Season three, I called it, because it's my season three.

• 1:08:52Amy Poehler?

  It is your season three.

• 1:08:53Speaker 02

  53. That was disrespectful. 53. Um, Joan Cusack.

• 1:08:59Amy Poehler?

  Oh, hey, you guys!

• 1:09:06Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:09:07Amy Poehler?

  Okay, okay. Ready?

• 1:09:09Speaker 02

  So we're just doing voices.

• 1:09:11Amy Poehler?

  Here we go. One, two, three. Ready? Shakira.

• 1:09:23Speaker 02

  You nailed it.

• 1:09:24Amy Poehler?

  Right?

• 1:09:25Speaker 02

  Shakira!

• 1:09:29Amy Poehler?

  Okay. All right. Give me one.

• 1:09:31Speaker 02

  Um.

• 1:09:32Amy Poehler?

  I'm gonna, I'm gonna die. You have to give me one. Ten seconds, ten, nine.

• 1:09:36Speaker 02

  Tommy Lee Jones.

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  Now! Tommy!

• 1:09:42Amy Poehler?

  Uh, yeah, you're gonna get in the outhouse, doghouse, henhouse.

• 1:09:49Amy Poehler?

  Every outhouse. Better check every outhouse, doghouse, henhouse around here.

• 1:09:53Speaker 02

  Fucking shit, that was him.

• 1:09:55Amy Poehler?

  You're gonna catch the guy.

• 1:09:56Speaker 02

  No, this isn't funny anymore.

• 1:09:57Amy Poehler?

  The fugitive, we're looking for the fugitive.

• 1:09:58Speaker 02

  That was him.

• 1:10:01Speaker 02

  This isn't even funny anymore. So you do do impressions. You did this to embarrass me.

• 1:10:05Amy Poehler?

  Ivanka Trump, go.

• 1:10:07Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:10:14Speaker 02

  Literally, the fact that I'm getting fired from the show I'm on after this. She can't do impressions.

• 1:10:19Amy Poehler?

  Whoa! What is that?

• 1:10:22Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:10:24Amy Poehler?

  What? What?

• 1:10:29Amy Poehler?

  Okay.

• 1:10:29Speaker 02

  Oh, my god.

• 1:10:31Amy Poehler?

  Fuck, that was good. There were, those were really good.

• 1:10:33Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:10:34Amy Poehler?

  You know who I do think you could do? You know who I think you could do well, though, is Laura Linney.

• 1:10:38Speaker 02

  I get that a lot.

• 1:10:39Amy Poehler?

  You have, you sound a lot like Laura Linney.

• 1:10:41Speaker 02

  I get that a lot, and I watch videos of her because people have said that.

• 1:10:44Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:45Speaker 02

  She's amazing.

• 1:10:46Amy Poehler?

  She, she is, I mean, she, she's so like, um.

• 1:10:50Speaker 02

  She's so great.

• 1:10:51Amy Poehler?

  Let's do Laura Linney impersonation. You could do it. This one you could do.

• 1:10:55Speaker 02

  Oh, well, now I can't do it.

• 1:10:58Speaker 02

  I just do whoa again.

• 1:11:00Amy Poehler?

  Okay, let's, let's have Laura Linney talking about, um.

• 1:11:04Speaker 02

  God, I just watched a video of her.

• 1:11:06Amy Poehler?

  Of, about her, um, drink, like, she just, she just had some delicious coffee.

• 1:11:12Speaker 02

  My brain just went, mm, delicious. Oh, my god. Oh, my god.

• 1:11:19Speaker 02

  Oh, my god.

• 1:11:23Speaker 02

  Oh, my god.

• 1:11:26Speaker 02

  Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh, this coffee is so delicious.

• 1:11:34Speaker 02

  Oh, god.

• 1:11:39Speaker 02

  That was for you, Laura Linney.

• 1:11:41Amy Poehler?

  Laura, we love you. Laura, we love you.

• 1:11:43Speaker 02

  Oh, my god.

• 1:11:44Amy Poehler?

  Oh, my god. Oh, my god.

• 1:11:46Speaker 02

  You made me cry.

• 1:11:47Amy Poehler?

  Okay, oh, I have to ask you one more question. What are you listening to these days, watching, reading? What do you do to, like, space out, check out, laugh? I'm always taking suggestions from people. Is there a video that you frequent?

• 1:12:02Speaker 02

  I am so big on, like, survivalist shows.

• 1:12:05Amy Poehler?

  Ooh.

• 1:12:06Speaker 02

  Like, like, to the point where me and Alison Gates.

• 1:12:08Amy Poehler?

  Yes.

• 1:12:08Speaker 02

  We write a lot together.

• 1:12:09Amy Poehler?

  Head writer at SNL.

• 1:12:10Speaker 02

  She's amazing. We work outside of the show together as well, and we were on a Zoom the other day, supposed to be working, fully supposed to be working. And we set that aside to have a vulnerable conversation about do we, and talk, to talk to our teams and, like, really lay out the game plan of if we want to go on Survivor together. We are so serious about it, in a scary way that we need to stop talking about it because both of us want it so. We watch these shows, and there is one that I just got put onto called Extraction. Have you heard of this?

• 1:12:44Amy Poehler?

  I think I might have heard of it, but not really. Tell me more.

• 1:12:48Speaker 02

  I'm gonna put you in the scenario.

• 1:12:49Amy Poehler?

  I have a laptop, and it's coming into frame.

• 1:12:51Speaker 02

  You, in your head, pick two people that you, that you trust and love.

• 1:12:56Amy Poehler?

  Okay, got it.

• 1:12:57Speaker 02

  Now, picture that they're in a headquarters. You, Amy Poehler, are put in the wilderness.

• 1:13:05Amy Poehler?

  Okay.

• 1:13:05Speaker 02

  They can see you on screen. You can talk to them and say, I need food and water. But you're fighting other families. They're fighting other families in the headquarters to get you what you need because their loved one is out in the wilderness, too.

• 1:13:16Amy Poehler?

  Okay.

• 1:13:17Speaker 02

  So they're doing their own game, and you're going, I need water. And they're like, we're try, they can't talk to you. Only you can talk to them. So you're going, every time you get a box and there's nothing in it, you don't know that they just played a game in headquarters where they can't get you water.

• 1:13:32Speaker 02

  So you're like, and then you go, I want to be extracted. And they can decide if they want to pull you out or not.

• 1:13:36Amy Poehler?

  Or not.

• 1:13:36Speaker 02

  They can leave you. Please go on it with me. Um, it takes four months of our life.

• 1:13:41Amy Poehler?

  Okay, I, I have a couple of questions about this.

• 1:13:43Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:13:44Amy Poehler?

  It feels like you could just set rules before, which is like.

• 1:13:50Speaker 02

  Well, they do. Like, right? So then they start crying and go, I know I said

• 1:13:55Speaker 02

  that when I said I wanted to be extracted to, to wait two days, but please, please get me out.

• 1:14:01Speaker 02

  And then the family goes.

• 1:14:02Amy Poehler?

  No.

• 1:14:02Speaker 02

  No. She said to wait two days. And that was the conversation me and Alison were having. It was like, do you want me to extract you?

• 1:14:11Speaker 02

  And I was literally dead, so you're like, I don't know.

• 1:14:18Amy Poehler?

  Whoa!

• 1:14:19Speaker 02

  It's a fucking, you have to watch it, two seasons, and it's renewed for a third.

• 1:14:22Amy Poehler?

  Where is it on? It's on, oh, it's.

• 1:14:24Speaker 02

  I think I watched it on Hulu.

• 1:14:25Amy Poehler?

  There's also a movie called Extraction by Chris Hemsworth.

• 1:14:28Speaker 02

  Don't, I mean, watch that, too, if you want. I haven't seen it.

• 1:14:31Amy Poehler?

  Extraction TV show.

• 1:14:33Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:14:34Amy Poehler?

  Extracted.

• 1:14:37Speaker 02

  Extracted.

• 1:14:38Amy Poehler?

  Extracted. Okay, let's just look at, um, I just want to look at a clip of it.

• 1:14:42Speaker 02

  God, it's so good.

• 1:14:51Speaker 04

  Your objective is to choose which survivalists receive crucial supplies.

• 1:14:55Amy Poehler?

  Oh, some don't get supplies.

• 1:14:57Speaker 02

  Yes, somewhere without fire for weeks.

• 1:14:59Amy Poehler?

  Oh!

• 1:15:00Speaker 02

  Begging to go home.

• 1:15:05Amy Poehler?

  My child has not had fire all week.

• 1:15:08Speaker 02

  Right, because that's another thing, too. It's a lot of mothers, so they're like.

• 1:15:10Amy Poehler?

  My child.

• 1:15:11Speaker 02

  My child needs a sleeping bag.

• 1:15:14Amy Poehler?

  Ma'am, your child's 35.

• 1:15:16Speaker 02

  Yes, that is a good point. They're all in their 40s. Ma'am, ma'am.

• 1:15:21Amy Poehler?

  Ma'am.

• 1:15:23Amy Poehler?

  Oh, and then they have a, oh, this is satisfying. They have a giant button that says extract.

• 1:15:27Speaker 02

  And they have to go hit it in front of everyone. It's very good.

• 1:15:30Amy Poehler?

  Ashley!

• 1:15:31Speaker 02

  You're amazing.

• 1:15:32Amy Poehler?

  Thank you for doing this. This was so fun.

• 1:15:34Speaker 02

  You're the best. I see why people laugh so hard. You are so funny. You're so funny.

• 1:15:39Amy Poehler?

  You're so good at impressions.

• 1:15:40Speaker 02

  You are so good at impressions. We are so good.

• 1:15:47Amy Poehler?

  Thank you so much, Ashley. That was so fun and so funny, and it's just a joy to talk to you and get to know you more. And, um, you know, Ashley talked a lot about one of her mentors, Diane Keaton, her fairy godmother. And I just feel for this polar plunge. I want to remind us all of some of the many great films that Diane made. Check out Marvin's Room, if you haven't seen that. It's so good. And Meryl Streep is in it, and a young Leonardo DiCaprio, and it's such good acting. Reds, an incredible movie with Warren Beatty. It's beautiful performance of, from Diane.

• 1:16:27Amy Poehler?

  Crimes of the Heart, Sissy Spacek, Jessica Lange. I mean, just. Diane, we miss you. Thank you, Ashley, for that fun talk. Thank you so much for listening today, and we'll see you soon.

• 1:16:41Amy Poehler?

  You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, Aleia Zanarez, Bridget Geerlings, Paige Garberini, Belle Roman, and Drew Van Steenbergen. For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss-Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.

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