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• 0:00Paige DeSorbo?

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• 0:32Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 0:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so many people have my location.

• 0:40Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 0:44Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 0:49Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. Even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 1:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 1:05Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat, so once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 1:14Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time, and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 1:18Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 1:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 1:22Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising, and you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 1:36Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 1:43Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 1:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly, women deserve.

• 1:48Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 1:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a t-shirt, for real.

• 1:54Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 2:03Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 2:06Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 2:06Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 2:09Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You can check out the full terms in the app.

• 2:21Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 2:22Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 2:28Paige DeSorbo?

  This episode is sponsored by the new Hershey's Creme Bars in Salted Caramel and Afogato. Lately, I've been realizing that luxury doesn't have to mean some huge splurge. Sometimes it's just taking a few minutes to yourself during a busy day. I have one of these moments, oh, I don't know, every day around 2 o'clock. Whether that's making a pick-me-up coffee, or maybe I just need to scroll for a little bit on the couch. That's why I'm actually so excited about the new Hershey's Salted Caramel and Afogato Creme Bars available now. I absolutely love a treat-yourself moment in the middle of the day, and this is a classic Hershey's Milk Chocolate layered with a Salted Caramel or Afogato Creme filling.

• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

  So it feels a little elevated while still being your favorite Hershey's chocolate. Pick up the new Hershey's Creme Bars in Salted Caramel or Afogato wherever you shop for snacks and choose happiness with every bite.

• 3:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Sup, gigglers?

• 3:25Speaker 02

  Carrie, fix your wifi.

• 3:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Manifest that shit.

• 3:29Speaker 02

  We can't be managed.

• 3:34Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:37Hannah Berner?

  What's up, my granola gigglers?

• 3:40Paige DeSorbo?

  That's a good one.

• 3:41Hannah Berner?

  I hear a dog in the background barking. Are you okay?

• 3:44Paige DeSorbo?

  No, am I ever?

• 3:46Hannah Berner?

  Are you under attack?

• 3:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Probably.

• 3:48Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, is he right there?

• 3:50Paige DeSorbo?

  No, he's not. He's downstairs.

• 3:52Hannah Berner?

  What makes him bark? Like, what are the things that get him going?

• 3:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, god, people in hats.

• 4:00Hannah Berner?

  Which is very you-coded. He's like, "I hate that hat. I hate that hat."

• 4:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Don't wear a hat around this guy.

• 4:06Hannah Berner?

  Take off that hat.

• 4:07Paige DeSorbo?

  People running swiftly, any type of commotion, really, people with guns, horses.

• 4:15Hannah Berner?

  Who has they run into with guns?

• 4:17Paige DeSorbo?

  On the TV.

• 4:18Hannah Berner?

  Oh, he hates the TV.

• 4:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Hates the TV. Anytime there's a ball on the TV and not in his mouth, upset. So you get why Kitty beats the shit out of him, like...

• 4:30Hannah Berner?

  How are you?

• 4:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm good. Every time we get on the pod, I'm like, I haven't talked to you in so long, I literally...

• 4:36Hannah Berner?

  That was Butter. Do you know why she did that? Because I ordered sushi, and it came right when Paige was like, "I'm ready to eat." And my sushi's just gonna be sitting here the whole pod. And Butter knows something's up, and she's not food motivated.

• 4:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Don't take, don't...

• 4:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Don't take a phrase I say off the pod and then use it on the pod. Me and Daphne were at a shoot today, and they were like, "Oh, my god, she's so well behaved." And I said, "Because she's not food motivated." And Hannah turned around and said, "You could never tell by looking at her."

• 5:13Hannah Berner?

  And then we pressed record.

• 5:15Paige DeSorbo?

  And I said...

• 5:17Hannah Berner?

  I am a little... I don't want to say jealous, because I support women in the arts.

• 5:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 5:24Hannah Berner?

  I'm original cat girl.

• 5:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 5:27Hannah Berner?

  You are the face of Fancy Feast.

• 5:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 5:30Hannah Berner?

  Sierra just came out. Jasper's the star, and let me say, Sierra's also OG cat girl. That's how Sierra and I initially connected, which...

• 5:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 5:39Hannah Berner?

  Granted, they cut a lot from Summer House, but that was one thing I was like, I get it. You don't need 45 minutes of us talking about our cat.

• 5:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 5:47Hannah Berner?

  So that, I respect that. Jasper's starring in a campaign, which I'm so proud of him for. He deserves it. He's gorgeous.

• 5:55Paige DeSorbo?

  He's put in the work.

• 5:55Hannah Berner?

  Speaking of little double...

• 5:58Hannah Berner?

  Butter, if you're watching YouTube, she's here. Butter, do you realize other cats are putting in hours? They're responding to emails, they're listening to what people say, and actually, they're a pleasant, pleasant person to be around on the job.

• 6:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Daphne might want to go to an Ivy League. She needs to save her money.

• 6:18Hannah Berner?

  No one's ever said you're pleasant to work with, Butter, because you're not. And you're only good around me and no one else. But if that's, you know what, some cats aren't made for stardom.

• 6:28Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's totally fine.

• 6:30Hannah Berner?

  But she's so beautiful, and people forget that every day. She looks like Cindy Crawford. That's Cindy Crawford. Wait, oh...

• 6:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, how sad that Cindy Crawford's son died.

• 6:41Hannah Berner?

  He was only 27.

• 6:42Paige DeSorbo?

  It like really affected me when I heard it.

• 6:45Hannah Berner?

  I think it's because like, he's, I was gonna say he's our age, but he's not. It's, no, when people who pass who are younger than you, it's really fucked up.

• 6:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and I just feel like being, him being in rehab, it's like, that's even sadder. Because his family was probably like, okay, he's getting the help he needs, like, it's only up from here. And that, I just, I can't, I couldn't imagine that. And also, like, I couldn't, I can't imagine losing your only sibling at such a young age. And she's younger than him, I think.

• 7:21Hannah Berner?

  You know, I think it's because both of us, we have one brother.

• 7:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:24Hannah Berner?

  And he would speak up a lot about mental health, so like, I loved everything he was doing.

• 7:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:33Hannah Berner?

  Knowing that he was going through something. Um, so yeah, it's just really fucked up.

• 7:37Paige DeSorbo?

  It's really fucked up and really sad.

• 7:40Hannah Berner?

  There's no way to transition.

• 7:41Paige DeSorbo?

  How about we stay medical and I'll do a little UTI update?

• 7:46Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 7:47Paige DeSorbo?

  The gigglers are always looking out for me. They're always tagging me in like new innovation for UTIs and all this stuff. And I haven't said anything because I didn't want to jinx myself, but next month, I'm one year of no UTIs.

• 8:02Hannah Berner?

  Do you think it was a, was there a psychic that you spoke to, or was there like a little, did you cut a cord or put something in a fridge? What do you think it is?

• 8:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I think my own intuition was rejecting every man I've ever been with, one. I think my body was like, nope, not him, we'll let you know. Nope, not him, definitely not him, we'll let you know. But then also, I went to my doctor, my kinesiologist, who, I don't know if I've said his name before on the pod, but like honestly, I kind of want to gatekeep him because I'm like, no, you bitches have to put in the work. I, I found him 10 years ago. Like, this is, I'm not trying to lose appointments. But he put me on two supplements that just like, that honestly, I don't even still take.

• 8:46Hannah Berner?

  What are they?

• 8:47Paige DeSorbo?

  One was like a cranberry supplement, but it was like double what the normal, I think, cranberry supplement is. And then the other one was oregano, honey. I said, "My mom could have heard this 20 years ago."

• 9:02Hannah Berner?

  Low-key, when he said that to you, you were like, "Oh, you saw my last name was Sorbo, and now you're giving me fucking oregano? Is this a joke? Is this a joke to you?"

• 9:11Paige DeSorbo?

  He was like, "Put a bay leaf in it, like, it'll fix it."

• 9:14Hannah Berner?

  No, he's like, "Did you sprinkle some Parmesan on your pussy? Get out of here."

• 9:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Truly, I know I say this a lot, but it's truly life-changing.

• 9:21Hannah Berner?

  Well, yeah, you were, you had chronic pain.

• 9:23Paige DeSorbo?

  It was debilitating. And also, not even like when you were getting one, it's the anticipation of like, when you're going. So like, every time I traveled and I was like away from home, I was like, okay, I gotta make sure I have all my UTI stuff just in case one strikes. The only time I ever feel like a little hankering of a UTI is when I'm dehydrated.

• 9:49Hannah Berner?

  Or whenever you don't want to go somewhere. I get a text, and she goes, "I feel like..."

• 9:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like coming on.

• 9:56Hannah Berner?

  "I feel it might be coming on in the next year or two."

• 9:58Paige DeSorbo?

  My mom made me stop drinking my Stanley because she said it's bad for me because your body is not supposed to drink anything cold. And so she's like, "Stop drinking your Stanley. Drink room temperature water." So, and room temperature water is so gross. So honestly, I'm dehydrated all the time now.

• 10:16Hannah Berner?

  Well, you can still drink from your Stanley, just don't put ice in it. That's what I do. But not because I, I'm not drinking, it's because I don't, honestly, because my freezer's broken.

• 10:26Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like I can't fill up my Stanley and not put ice in it.

• 10:30Hannah Berner?

  I've put ice in my Stanley like three times, and it was too heavy.

• 10:33Paige DeSorbo?

  It does get really heavy.

• 10:34Hannah Berner?

  Also, if you're not drinking from your Stanley, and then you can't drink from plastic because of microplastics or whatever, macroplastics, all the plastics.

• 10:44Hannah Berner?

  Then where are we supposed to drink from? The faucet? Like Taylor Frankie Paul?

• 10:52Paige DeSorbo?

  No, the girls are going through it.

• 10:54Hannah Berner?

  Everyone's mad that we said we were gonna talk about the Mormon Housewives and we didn't. I finished it. Do you have any other thoughts besides the sweatpants? Apparently she's out. Michaela's out.

• 11:06Paige DeSorbo?

  I knew Michaela was out. I didn't know Taylor Frankie Paul's out.

• 11:09Hannah Berner?

  The Mormons are dropping like flies. But also, I don't, I don't trust anything right now. This is like, they don't know what they're doing yet with the show.

• 11:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Was it you that told me that the, that Taylor Frankie Paul's mom was on the internet?

• 11:24Hannah Berner?

  Like, she's doing full episode reviews, being like, Taylor, are you Pharrell? Are you Pharrell, Taylor? Are you feeling Pharrell?

• 11:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Until TikTok became a thing, there's so many phrases and like situations that you've just like never heard of. And like, I always see the phrase like, oh, she, your mom was your first bully. Or like, oh, this person's mom was their first bully, which is such a foreign concept to me because I couldn't imagine having that relationship with my mother. But I think that they're kind of a great example of it. Like, any episode I've watched with the mom with Taylor, I'm, there's so many times where I've wanted to go through the screen and be like, wait, but that's your daughter. Like, not that I have kids, I don't have to go that hard, but I know for a fact if my child did the worst thing imaginable,

• 12:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm still on their side. That's my child.

• 12:20Hannah Berner?

  The first scene is her being like, Mom, I have to take a pregnancy test. And the mom is so mad and like, even just to say the word disappointed, like, fine. Be disappointed as a parent, but to look your daughter in the eye and be like, I'm disappointed in you. Also, because we learned that Taylor's mom was in her own like abusive relationship. And I think she's seeing it again with Taylor. So there's honestly, the truth is, this show is so good because

• 12:48Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so real.

• 12:49Hannah Berner?

  They plucked these girls from TikTok. They were just a chaotic friend group, plus some added people for casting. And it's raw. These people are not, you know, never claimed to be mentally healthy. Yeah, everyone combusted. Everyone's spontaneously combusted. She is the victim of serious religious trauma. I mean, even Macy, she got pregnant at like 19 and instead of like, the shame she must have felt and then the trauma of losing him. Also, everyone's getting married. Everyone's pregnant. How can you think straight when you're always pregnant?

• 13:27Paige DeSorbo?

  And then Michaela, who was abused and then got pregnant at 16, it's like, okay, wait, but you're, you're, you were still a child then.

• 13:34Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 13:34Paige DeSorbo?

  And then Jen and her husband.

• 13:36Hannah Berner?

  Jen is 26 right now.

• 13:38Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 13:39Hannah Berner?

  Her brain just fully formed. She woke up and she's like, where am I?

• 13:43Paige DeSorbo?

  People are really mad at Jen for this past season for multiple reasons. And as someone who doesn't know Jen and is not in their friend group, I think I, we can like see different things as the viewer. One, she's in, she's in a

• 14:01Hannah Berner?

  She got her pink back.

• 14:04Hannah Berner?

  I got my pink back, pink back, pink back.

• 14:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, she's obviously so visibly jealous of Whitney. She wants to be doing the things that Whitney is doing and she

• 14:14Hannah Berner?

  But she was so complimentary of her. She didn't want shade her.

• 14:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, but she was like picking a fight with her, whatever. Then that could be just like producers being like, but don't you still have beef with her? Like, we need a storyline type of vibe. I just think it's so important to recognize people in your friend group who genuinely hate their lives. Because it impacts, like, and I feel like I've called you so many times after being on the phone with a friend and like said to you things they've said to me and you've said back to me like, okay, but Paige, she hates her life. Like, her, like, you know, like, she's not happy. So like, how could she be happy for you type of vibe?

• 14:55Hannah Berner?

  That's when I say, baby, I have empathy for them.

• 14:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Jen is a classic case of she was sold this idea of what her life was gonna be when she was like 20 fucking one. And now she's 26, she's four kids deep. Yeah, how is she digging herself out of that hole to like have a different life that she clearly wants?

• 15:14Hannah Berner?

  It's also so fascinating because all these women got what they wanted, which was the money and the power. But then like the society around them, especially in Mormonville, hasn't figured out. I'm kind of like, guys, move out of Utah.

• 15:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I think it's inappropriate that all of their husbands stopped working.

• 15:32Hannah Berner?

  And then bought a Cybertruck. And then complained.

• 15:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, you can be rich enough that your spouse doesn't have to work, but like, unless you're taking care of the kids full time, babe, aren't you bored? Like, what?

• 15:47Hannah Berner?

  I don't think Connor complains about taking care of the kids. I hate when the men complain about taking care of the kids.

• 15:54Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but he seems like someone who thought about being a stay-at-home dad before it was possible.

• 15:58Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, where like when Zach was like, I'm exhausted. I was, this is how he talks. I'm exhausted, Jen. I was with the kids for two full days. And I let you go on Dancing with the Stars and delivered, and then you want to have sex with every action?

• 16:12Paige DeSorbo?

  The phrase let you, coming from a man, no, I'll spontaneously combust. I will spontaneously combust.

• 16:19Hannah Berner?

  Also, Jen is so cute and like bubbly and she needs to get her pink back. I don't mind a stay-at-home dad, but I don't want him to use it against me all the time. I want him to be like, it's like when you meet a guy who loves cooking. If he's

• 16:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 16:35Hannah Berner?

  Like, go off, king. Cook for me. I love it.

• 16:40Paige DeSorbo?

  No, like, have a hobby for sure.

• 16:43Hannah Berner?

  Oh, you love taking the kids to play golf or whatever? Like, yeah, take them. I love that for you.

• 16:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Get out of here.

• 16:50Hannah Berner?

  I do think that it's just so interesting because the girls got the money, got the power and sudden, and are miserable, but it's

• 16:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I think it's a good lesson in, like, that stuff really doesn't make you happy. Like, who just, who just went on a press tour? Oh, Nicole Kidman and Sandra Bullock. They're on their press tour for Practical Magic.

• 17:09Hannah Berner?

  Love.

• 17:09Paige DeSorbo?

  And they were asked, when both of them won the Oscar, where were you at in life? And Nicole Kidman was like, I was probably the saddest I've ever been. I went home after winning an Oscar and thought, I need to start a real life. Like, and that's so true.

• 17:27Hannah Berner?

  Wow.

• 17:28Paige DeSorbo?

  You have to have people around you.

• 17:34Hannah Berner?

  Period. That's what it is. It's, it's good relationships in your life because they actually did accomplish a lot of their dreams. But then they outgrew the people around them.

• 17:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 17:43Hannah Berner?

  But then stayed with those people. And then they're wondering why there's so much tension and why it feels wrong. It's like, because baby, you've grown out of this. Your universe is pushing you away.

• 17:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Look, obviously like we're so busy and we're working and there's women our age that are married and have children and so they're even busier. I like recently, usually I'm like, okay, I don't like, my friends know we're friends. Like, I don't have to like see them all the time. And like, I don't have to text them all the time. But recently I've been like, meant actively making a mental note of like, okay, I have to text Katie tomorrow because I haven't checked in on her in a few days. I'm like, okay, and I have to remember it's Alexa's birthday. Like, we have to go out and do something to celebrate her birthday. I'm not letting a year go by and we didn't celebrate. You know, like, you have to like really, you get to a certain point in your life where you're like, okay, I've accomplished certain things.

• 18:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I've done certain things. What's really important and it really is community. Like, it's the thing that keeps you living the longest. No, and world's peace.

• 18:43Hannah Berner?

  At 35, you're 33. You're such a little baby.

• 18:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm turning 34 in a month.

• 18:53Hannah Berner?

  I know, but let's enjoy 33.

• 18:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, let's.

• 18:56Hannah Berner?

  And, but we, we do have small, the smallest circles we've ever had.

• 19:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Teensy weensy, baby.

• 19:02Hannah Berner?

  But if you've made it through, like, it's like when you're cooking pasta and the what, what's it called? A sifter? I don't know. You know, I went like a whole year at one of my apartments without a pasta strainer, a strainer. And I don't know what I used, but I ended up doing something that holds. Anyway, I digress.

• 19:22Paige DeSorbo?

  That's crazy.

• 19:23Hannah Berner?

  The point is

• 19:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yesterday I realized I don't have a potato masher. I thought, I'm an adult now. I just ordered a potato masher.

• 19:31Hannah Berner?

  I didn't know that was a thing.

• 19:32Paige DeSorbo?

  You had to make mashed potatoes.

• 19:34Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I thought she used like a fork.

• 19:35Paige DeSorbo?

  No, my mom uses like a thing that you

• 19:37Hannah Berner?

  Oh, it has like waves, right?

• 19:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and it has like the little circle thing with the holes.

• 19:40Hannah Berner?

  I called my mom and there is something people use for that.

• 19:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I used a meat cleaver instead.

• 19:44Hannah Berner?

  Oh, Jesus. What is, what is this?

• 19:49Hannah Berner?

  Did you see there's a new like Monsters? Who does all the Monsters films?

• 19:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I watched it, Lizzie Borden.

• 19:53Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, who does it? What's it called? Who's the guy?

• 19:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Ryan Murphy.

• 19:56Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, what is this? A Ryan Murphy show? The meat cleaver. There's always a meat cleaver, some hot guy with a meat cleaver.

• 20:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, actually, people were telling me to watch that Lizzie Borden show on-

• 20:07Hannah Berner?

  Was it good?

• 20:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm on her side. I would have killed my parents, too.

• 20:11Hannah Berner?

  Okay, you don't have to give it away.

• 20:13Paige DeSorbo?

  They know, it's, people know.

• 20:16Hannah Berner?

  No, I'm just, that's what people do to me. So I was projecting. You see, guys, that was projection. That was projection.

• 20:21Paige DeSorbo?

  If I was her, I would have taken an axe to my stepmom, too.

• 20:24Hannah Berner?

  I went to my friend Ally's birthday party, where I feel like, I don't know if a couple of years ago I would have gone. I might have stopped by, but it's like, I was at this time in my life where I'm like, she means the world to me. It's her birthday. I don't know if I know a lot of people there. I'm scared and I'm alone, but I'm gonna go because I'm an adult.

• 20:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow, I just preached that two minutes ago, and I was also invited to this birthday, and I said, nope, not going.

• 20:50Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, she's like, Rose Paige. I'm like, it's not her journey. Yep. It's not her journey.

• 20:55Paige DeSorbo?

  You made me work all day.

• 20:58Hannah Berner?

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• 21:42Hannah Berner?

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• 22:25Hannah Berner?

  I foster, and I'm constantly trying to help cats find homes, and around the holidays, I basically want everyone I know to fall in love with a cat and take one home. But the holidays, you guys are hosting, you have your cat, and you have such a to-do list, you know? Hiding things in closets, pretending you're clean, pulling out the snacks. One thing I do not need to add to that list is worrying about cat smell. Arm and Hammer Hardball Cat Litter keeps odors under control and forms compact clumps that make cleanup easy, so that part is already handled in the background, so then I can focus on my guests and maybe convince one of them they need a cat. For all my fellow cat parents, be guest-ready with Arm and Hammer Hardball Cat Litter. Find it now at Walmart or Amazon.

• 23:06Hannah Berner?

  One thing about me, I love a protein bar. I'm not going out into the world without my emergency protein bar. It saved me in so many situations, I can't even tell you, but when I'm eating a protein bar, it can't taste like I'm being punished, you know? For trying to eat healthy.

• 23:21Paige DeSorbo?

  That's why I'm obsessed with Stars and Honey. They basically looked at protein bars and said, "Hmm, why are we choosing between something that supports our goals and something we actually want to eat? Each bar has 15 grams of protein and only 4 grams of sugar, but the flavors are giving dessert, honey. Iced lemon cookie, mint chocolate chip, red velvet peanut butter mousse? Hello? Who even knew peanut butter could be a mousse?

• 23:45Hannah Berner?

  Because the best habits are the ones you can actually stick to, and consistency is a lot easier when your better-for-you snack is actually something you crave. Their standard is literally, would you still want to eat it if it weren't a protein bar? And that's the energy I need.

• 23:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Stars and Honey protein bars are now available at starsandhoney.com or Target stores nationwide. Order online or grab a box on your next Target run. I've always wanted to be more consistent with strength training, but my biggest problem is getting to the gym and thinking, okay, now what? I'll do a few exercises, I remember, maybe a pull-up, something I saved on Instagram, but there's never really any planning behind it. That's what I've been loving about the Ladder app. I open it and my workout is already planned for me by an expert coach. I know exactly what exercises I'm doing, how many sets, how many reps, and the in-ear coaching gives me cues and motivation throughout the workout. It genuinely feels like having a personal trainer in my headphones. I love using this whenever I'm in hotels.

• 24:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I've been using it for a while now, and I see and also feel myself getting stronger each day because of Ladder. I have also been eyeing their Pilates workout routines for a little while now, so that will definitely be in my next workout venture. And for less than $1 a day, you can't beat it. And I love that Ladder remembers my weights, reps, and sets, because I can actually see my progress instead of wondering whether what I'm doing is working. Plus, you can get a new plan every week that builds on the last. Remove the guesswork with Ladder and get a real coach in your ear telling you exactly what to do for every workout. No thinking, everything planned for you, and if you have an iPhone, head to ladder.fit/giggly and take a quick quiz to find your perfect ladder plan.

• 25:24Paige DeSorbo?

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• 26:10Paige DeSorbo?

  You can meet with a licensed psychiatrist who takes the time to understand what's going on, builds a personalized treatment plan, and supports you over time with consistent, evidence-based care. And because you continue with the same provider, you're not starting over each visit. Your treatment can evolve with you, so you're actually making progress over time. And with more than 300,000 patients that have already found high-quality psychiatric care through Talkiatory, head to talkiatory.com/giggly to complete the short assessment and get matched with an in-network psychiatrist in just a few minutes. That's T-A-L-K-I-A-T-R-Y.com/giggly to get matched in minutes. Talkiatory.com/giggly.

• 26:54Hannah Berner?

  I also want to say thank you to the Gigglers and extended community. We've been getting like so many nice messages about, you know, announcing that we're going to, we're growing, we're going to a different network. And I was wondering like why it might be hitting a chord for some people, because I've gotten some like intense messages. And I think it's because maybe they relate to us in a way where we were kind of underdogs, where everyone has been in a relationship or with a friend, where they've told them like, you suck, you're not gonna make it. You're a loser, nobody likes you. Like literally Lady Gaga, you will never be famous. And I think everyone saw it happen to us publicly in a couple of different ways.

• 27:37Hannah Berner?

  So then, I hope that it motivates anyone listening, that anything you have going on in your life, if people are hating on you for it, they see something in you and they're scared, and keep chasing your dream. Go for it. And it's gonna feel so good, because it's taken us six years. Like, that is a long time of pasta straining. I would say. Look at all these callbacks. We're out of control.

• 28:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I'm just looking at my foot right now.

• 28:05Hannah Berner?

  What's going on? What's going on? I'm scared.

• 28:08Paige DeSorbo?

  And I, the most Hannah thing happened to me last night in bed. I'm like falling asleep. Like, my eyes are closed. Like, I'm, I literally, I took two Letme gummies. Like, I'm fall, I'm going in.

• 28:19Hannah Berner?

  You got fucked up.

• 28:21Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm going in, okay?

• 28:22Hannah Berner?

  Two Letme gummies, I'd be up for a week. You'd have to call the police.

• 28:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, everyone's like, oh my god, you have the craziest dreams. And I'm like, it's actually the perfect sleep. But anyway.

• 28:32Paige DeSorbo?

  But the most Hannah thing happened to me in bed that I actually started laughing. It was like, this is so not my brand. This is so much more Hannah.

• 28:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I like moved my foot in the sheet and it like, my toenail like caught, I was like, what the hell is this? My toenail like caught on the sheet and I get my toes done every three weeks when I, they get my nails done.

• 28:56Hannah Berner?

  You gotta hang now babe, welcome to the party.

• 28:58Paige DeSorbo?

  No Hannah, then I like flip my leg up, okay, and I grab my toe with my hand, my eyes are still asleep, I'm s-

• 29:06Hannah Berner?

  That's not Hannah coded, cuz I can't touch my toes, but continue.

• 29:10Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like, I took my leg, put it around my neck. So I'm laying down, I flip my foot up, I grab my toe, my whole half my nail, I rip it off. I rip it off and I take it out from under the sheets and I'm looking at it, it's actually probably right here somewhere.

• 29:27Hannah Berner?

  If I had a nickel.

• 29:29Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was like, oh my god, no I can't find it, I was like, this is so Hannah.

• 29:35Hannah Berner?

  Can I say something in defense of toenails? Like, when you hear that someone loses their toenail, it sounds gross. The way I lose my toenails is very like shark teeth, there's always a toenail growing underneath.

• 29:46Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you have a weird toe thing happening.

• 29:48Hannah Berner?

  Well, my whole life playing tennis, the toe, the toenails go away, but I just have to say, I don't know if you guys have noticed, Paige has been overworked, having to put her little feet in these little tiny heels and like walking around New York City, that's why your toenail fell off babe.

• 30:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I was like, wait, when was my toenail falling off? I'm like, I've been-

• 30:09Hannah Berner?

  That's New York Fashion Week babe.

• 30:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I've been so busy, I didn't even notice my toenail was falling off, like, that's so not me, I'm inspecting my body head to toe every seven minutes.

• 30:19Hannah Berner?

  I have a mirror that scans me.

• 30:22Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I would love that.

• 30:26Hannah Berner?

  Beep beep, abnormal pimple.

• 30:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah don't.

• 30:32Hannah Berner?

  UTI coming soon, nipple hair found in a strange, it's very dark.

• 30:39Paige DeSorbo?

  I do think about you a lot.

• 30:40Hannah Berner?

  When you are shaving your nipples?

• 30:42Paige DeSorbo?

  When I look in the mirror, like before I'm getting in the shower specifically and I think, you know Hannah doesn't even look in the mirror.

• 30:50Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 30:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, why do you have to stand here and like look at yourself before you get in the shower?

• 30:55Hannah Berner?

  I'm growing on you.

• 30:56Paige DeSorbo?

  You're really growing on me, I'm gonna try and not to.

• 30:59Hannah Berner?

  Like a bacteria.

• 31:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Like a foot fungus if you will.

• 31:04Hannah Berner?

  Speaking of feet, you know like when you're staying up late and you're like, it's already late, like it's 2am, what is 3am, what is 4am, like you're already up late? That's how I feel.

• 31:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Except 5am, different.

• 31:16Hannah Berner?

  Different, that's-

• 31:17Paige DeSorbo?

  5am's morning.

• 31:18Hannah Berner?

  You're in the morning, you're just starting your workday.

• 31:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 31:21Hannah Berner?

  You're answering emails already.

• 31:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 31:23Hannah Berner?

  Um, but the way I feel about that is how I feel about like showing up to a shoot with you. Like, if I'm not fully shaved, spray tan. It's like, okay, why am I even trying? So I was naughty and I showed up to a shoot. My nails were done, which was like the bare minimum for you, but you know that was hard for me.

• 31:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 31:46Hannah Berner?

  Really unshaven, like dark hairs, no spray tan, so I was uneven.

• 31:52Paige DeSorbo?

  No Hannah, you weren't just, your legs weren't just unshaven, it was almost as if you had been planning this and did it on purpose.

• 32:00Hannah Berner?

  No, it could, it looked like, yeah, it looked like I was-

• 32:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, how long was that? Scientifically question asking.

• 32:09Hannah Berner?

  How long, not shaving?

• 32:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, how many day, how many days or weeks was that on your legs? Cuz I'm just trying to compare what-

• 32:16Hannah Berner?

  What happens is sometimes I travel and then I can't find my razor and that's when I get really fucked, but the funniest part about it is, is you know I had full laser hair removal on both my legs for like nine months, didn't do anything.

• 32:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Your hair grows slower than mine, like I could never go as many days as you go.

• 32:33Hannah Berner?

  You know what it is? Cuz two or three days, I'm like still okay and then I look down and I'm like, that's like not human. Um, but then, I didn't get my toes done and of course, wait, the shoe I ended up wearing was a clear shoe, like it looks like for Cinderella and I'm like, this is- Paige is gonna throw up.

• 32:52Paige DeSorbo?

  There's a difference between not getting your toes done and whatever the fuck you walked in with, okay? There's a difference between a little paint chip and you putting your toes through a wood chipper and then presenting uh them to us in a heel.

• 33:06Hannah Berner?

  I did lose half of my nail and I had grown out my toenails from the summer to where it actually looks like a French, I would say. Cuz it was like white that had been grown out, um, it was diabolical, but my thing was it would've taken too much work for me to get all of that together that I was just like, let's just, she'll see it, she'll get mad and then we'll move on.

• 33:31Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, I think because you played a sport when you were younger, you weren't ever just home in your room being like, what can I do today? Because Lenora seems like you were scheduled.

• 33:43Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 33:44Paige DeSorbo?

  You were scheduled.

• 33:46Hannah Berner?

  Every second of the day Lenora had a place I needed to be.

• 33:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you were scheduled, you did a sport, you did that sport every single day. I was over here, like maybe I'll do gymnastics this week, maybe like, I don't wanna be a Girl Scout anymore, like I had-

• 33:59Hannah Berner?

  That's not my brand anymore.

• 34:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 34:01Hannah Berner?

  I need to rebrand for 7th grade.

• 34:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm like, I'm not tap jazz and ballet anymore, mom, get it together, we're doing something new. So I feel like I had a lot of time to be like in my room and I also had a very girly mom, so like she did all, like my mom never went, even to this day, my mom does not go get her nails and toes done, well she gets her toes done, but she doesn't get her nails done, she does them herself. So I learned how to do my nails, I, I was doing French manicures at, in 3rd grade. Like I could do the line.

• 34:36Hannah Berner?

  Women's STEM of the week.

• 34:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like we were at home prepping, I don't know what we were prepping for.

• 34:43Hannah Berner?

  Wait, you were Alex Earl's little sister, um, Isabel?

• 34:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like I was doing, like I was doing my nails, like I was, I was getting out of the shower, she was putting my hair in like foam rollers, I was falling asleep, waking up for school, taking them out.

• 34:57Hannah Berner?

  Once a year, I would get my nails done because Nana got her claws in me and like I found myself having a full day like shopping with Nana and we always end up and she'd be like, pick, and she'd say, pick a shade of red.

• 35:13Paige DeSorbo?

  I love her, no I love her, I love her so much.

• 35:18Hannah Berner?

  You have to do a shade of red and her nails were always done, my nails were never done.

• 35:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I was actually just at a shoot and someone brought up like letting their hair go gray and I go, oh, my best friend once said let her hair go gray and not on my watch.

• 35:34Hannah Berner?

  See, you know my mom is letting her hair go gray, but she's in this like early period of it where it just looks like, kinda like sparkles over her brown and this really beautiful woman stopped her at the US Open and was like, I just wanna say, your hair looks so good, the way it is so natural going gray.

• 35:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, but can I say something?

• 35:51Hannah Berner?

  It's cuz Lenora's beautiful.

• 35:53Paige DeSorbo?

  No, Hannah, no, you're beautiful, Lenora's an intellectual. Like, you see Lenora and you're like-

• 36:02Hannah Berner?

  So is Kim, Kim's a woman in STEM.

• 36:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, but see, Kim is a different type of intellectual, like Lenora is like, was a principal, like she, you know like-

• 36:15Hannah Berner?

  She's in the rooms, she's in the rooms.

• 36:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Lenora's like the New York Times.

• 36:19Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 36:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, Kim's, Kim is like, oh my god.

• 36:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Kim is like the head mafia boss that you didn't know she was in charge.

• 36:32Paige DeSorbo?

  You thought it was this guy, it's really Kim in the back, like that's her type of intellectual.

• 36:38Hannah Berner?

  Why are you talking to him? You're gonna have to talk to me.

• 36:40Paige DeSorbo?

  She'll slit your throat, you didn't even know she was in the room, like, there's so many times that I feel like in business, like people will like think that I'm doing something, but really it's like, well my mom told me actually to do that.

• 36:51Hannah Berner?

  Do you know what my favorite thing is with me and you in business? People don't know who's in charge.

• 36:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, between you and I?

• 36:58Hannah Berner?

  Like in a Zoom meeting, they don't know.

• 37:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 37:01Hannah Berner?

  Cuz the second you think I know what I'm talking about, you come in and it's like Hannah shut up and you say something and then you get quiet for 40 minutes and they're like, she's not listening, Hannah's the one who's in charge, but then we flip, like they don't know.

• 37:14Paige DeSorbo?

  It's situational.

• 37:15Hannah Berner?

  It is purely situat-, it's cuz we don't know who's in charge.

• 37:18Paige DeSorbo?

  It's, it's whoever has taken a liking to that project more, or like is in charge.

• 37:25Hannah Berner?

  We're just always on the same page, so we're just like riffing, da da da, fun on the Zoom and then afterwards we get on the call and we're like, doesn't know, right?

• 37:34Paige DeSorbo?

  So funny because someone called me today, okay, from, a mutual person from both of our teams called me today, gives me the scenario, runs me through everything.

• 37:41Hannah Berner?

  Oh yeah.

• 37:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I say something and she goes, okay, well Hannah said the opposite, said this, and I go, okay, well whatever Hannah said.

• 37:49Hannah Berner?

  Well, it's funny because she asked me and I was like, no. And she goes, well Paige did the other thing. I go, Paige doesn't give a shit. I said, this is not something Paige is gonna fight for. So you're gonna listen to me right now?

• 38:01Paige DeSorbo?

  I go, I don't give a fuck. So if she already said no, then why are you calling?

• 38:04Hannah Berner?

  You said yes because you were like 50/50. I don't care.

• 38:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Anywho, I digress. Wait.

• 38:10Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 38:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Since we're on like the work theme, there's discourse on TikTok specifically heavy in Gen Z and millennials.

• 38:21Paige DeSorbo?

  The, the argument is, do you show up to an, a job interview with a coffee, with an iced coffee?

• 38:29Hannah Berner?

  If I'm doing like six job interviews that day, maybe, like if it's an emergency, like I'm like running and I'm feeling like shit.

• 38:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Morning? No, it's like, you have a job interview at like 9:30. Are you walking into the job interview, holding an iced coffee?

• 38:46Hannah Berner?

  I don't, I wouldn't, but I also don't think I would like not hire someone because of it.

• 38:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, Hannah, that's exactly what I did. I put myself in the situation and I thought, no, I'm not walking in with an iced coffee.

• 39:02Hannah Berner?

  Because that's too much admin. Like I need to worry about the task at hand. Like what's, what's my biggest weakness? Like I can't.

• 39:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. But if I'm the one hiring the person and someone walks in holding a coffee, I'm not even thinking about it. Like I don't give a fuck.

• 39:17Hannah Berner?

  It's a fun debate. I, maybe I could judge them by their coffee. Like if they came in with like a full frappuccino, I'd be like, are you mentally stable? Because you're, you're 34 and you're downing frappuccinos.

• 39:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Are you serious about the position or?

• 39:32Hannah Berner?

  Is this a fucking joke to you?

• 39:34Paige DeSorbo?

  No. If someone came in with like a full Starbucks frappuccino, I.

• 39:39Hannah Berner?

  Do you know, I used to get that for lunch.

• 39:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I used to love those.

• 39:42Hannah Berner?

  My, because we'd have like $10 for lunch and I'd be like, I could get a full chicken and broccoli, like at the Chinese place. Or I could get a strawberry caramel, white chocolate frappuccino, extra large. And me and my friends would just be walking around with the bigger than our bodies.

• 39:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, at this age now, I think my first question would be like, do you take lactaid? What's like your gut situation?

• 40:05Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. How are you taking that to the face right now?

• 40:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I'd be more intrigued than annoyed.

• 40:10Hannah Berner?

  Actually, I'd be like, you can handle hard things.

• 40:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I'm like, you have a stomach of steel?

• 40:17Hannah Berner?

  You're a gladiator. You are a gladiator. You're the pit bull from now on. Okay?

• 40:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, because I run queasy, you know, like.

• 40:25Hannah Berner?

  Wait, no, literally, it was 1pm, Paige's burps next to me. I go, you good? She goes, just me, my, my normal midday nausea. Don't worry about me.

• 40:38Paige DeSorbo?

  The wind blows in the wrong way and I could get a little nauseous.

• 40:42Hannah Berner?

  Just nervous about my existence.

• 40:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Truly. Do you ever just get nervous about like, just like, what's the next?

• 40:48Hannah Berner?

  I'm just like too aware of my existence. Like I'll just be, whenever I'm supposed to just be enjoying life, I always go, and is this the life I'm supposed to? Like, can we just, for one second, not analyze it?

• 41:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I'll be like, no, it's so bad. It's so bad. Do you feel like everyone does that though?

• 41:07Hannah Berner?

  No, I don't.

• 41:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Like you're ever in a situation that like, only you put yourself in that situation. There's no one else to blame. And you're just like, is this what I really want though?

• 41:18Hannah Berner?

  This might be selfish, but I do think I'm also neurodivergent where like even in school, like I remember everyone else would just like watching the teacher. Or like watching, and I would be watching everyone else watch the teacher. Like I was the one that's not in the moment. Like I was thinking about them.

• 41:32Paige DeSorbo?

  You're an anthropologist.

• 41:34Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, I love sociology.

• 41:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, sorry you love to study people.

• 41:39Hannah Berner?

  I have crazy news for you. And I can't believe this is three episodes in that we're still talking about Hydrox. First of all, it's not Hydrox, it's Hi-Rox.

• 41:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Who gives a fuck?

• 41:51Hannah Berner?

  I have to tell you something that's really upsetting. You have to brace yourself.

• 41:54Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 41:55Hannah Berner?

  And also this, as a millennial, this is the most millennial offensive thing I've ever heard. Hi-Rox stands for Hybrid Rockstar.

• 42:07Paige DeSorbo?

  What the fuck are they talking about? What's a hybrid rock star?

• 42:12Hannah Berner?

  It's like girl boss, like pussy popping, kick ass, like workout, what?

• 42:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Cheetah girls, cheetah sisters.

• 42:20Hannah Berner?

  Hybrid Rockstar. I'm confused by the branding. I do support any woman who does this because I love female athletes. However, who, who's, I need to know the story behind this. We'll talk about it next episode because we're not done with this.

• 42:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm Googling it right now. The Hi-Rox origin.

• 42:37Hannah Berner?

  Because there's no rock stars involved. It's not a music thing.

• 42:41Paige DeSorbo?

  It's okay because it was.

• 42:42Hannah Berner?

  Is it charity or something?

• 42:44Paige DeSorbo?

  It was started in Germany. It's okay.

• 42:48Paige DeSorbo?

  It's okay.

• 42:48Hannah Berner?

  Okay, that's cool.

• 42:49Paige DeSorbo?

  It's okay. And that's for them. And it was founded in 2017 by a two-time Olympic gold medalist. And that's fine. It was, the first Hi-Rox event took place in Hamburg in 2017.

• 43:02Hannah Berner?

  No, but the fact that it's German, it means that it, it also like, I wonder what the German translation is.

• 43:09Paige DeSorbo?

  That's scary.

• 43:13Paige DeSorbo?

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• 43:56Paige DeSorbo?

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• 44:40Paige DeSorbo?

  And as we all know, every great outfit starts from the feet up. That is why I'm currently obsessed with Allies from Sam Edelman. They're a ballet flat, but a little something extra for fall. A contrasting velvet cap toe, I have them in this gorgeous azure blue, which is like a dusty muted blue that somehow goes with everything, even Daphne's eyes. They're so cute and I'm already envisioning my next outfit. Straight leg jeans, an oversized blazer, and a little shoulder bag. Very, I just threw this on when we all know I absolutely did not. And Hannah is loving hers too. She has the Michaela, which is the Sam Edelman's take on a Mary Jane. And this season it comes in the chicest leopard. So gorge, so easy, and exactly the kind of shoe that makes an otherwise basic outfit look like you actually tried.

• 45:24Paige DeSorbo?

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• 46:09Paige DeSorbo?

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• 46:52Paige DeSorbo?

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• 47:01Hannah Berner?

  One thing about me is with the new season, I like to have a new personality. You never have to stick to one personality and people don't talk about it enough.

• 47:08Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I, if I'm wearing a hat, I'm a different person. Okay, the weather totally changes how you feel and it's obviously like getting a little cooler out and I'm a different girl in a turtleneck.

• 47:22Hannah Berner?

  And part of rebranding is getting new clothes and that's why I love Revolve. They have everything I need to be a completely new person that no one's ever met before. Whether it's denim, such as an angled barrel jean, I'm so different when I'm wearing a barrel jean. People do respect me more.

• 47:39Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm a creative director of somewhere.

• 47:43Hannah Berner?

  Then boots with a little kitten heel or a high heel. When I'm wearing boots, I command a room.

• 47:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and don't get me started on just like a really good dinner outfit. You get me a new blazer to go out to dinner, I'm having a time.

• 47:58Hannah Berner?

  And then people forget that on Revolve, there's also beauty. They have menswear, they have home, and they have Forward Renew, which is pre-owned luxury handbags and you know how much we love vintage.

• 48:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I've been recently loving Helsa's stuff. I feel like the first place I go to look is Revolve. And the number one thing I love about Revolve is order a bunch of stuff. Try it on in the comfort of your home. Easiest return ever. It's the only place I shop that I don't feel bad ordering extra stuff. Because I'm like, I have the luxury of trying it on and having the easiest returns.

• 48:35Hannah Berner?

  And the shipping is so fast. And if you're like me and you don't know what you're doing two days from now and then you're like, oh shit, I have a huge important dinner. Use Revolve. It's so fast and it's curated. So the website's really easy. I have been recently obsessed with, um, just like Norma Kamali. The capris that she has are so cute for fall, so comfy, stretchy and perfect.

• 49:00Paige DeSorbo?

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• 49:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Anyway.

• 49:37Hannah Berner?

  If you ever did Jennifer Hudson's, I was gonna say Walk of Shame, but like.

• 49:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah? Hannah, I got asked.

• 49:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, I got asked.

• 49:48Hannah Berner?

  Like recently?

• 49:49Paige DeSorbo?

  And yep, and I know exactly what you're gonna ask. What am I doing when I'm walking down the aisle for when they're dancing? And you wanna know what? I said, sorry, I can't come because I have a prior commitment, which I did. But in my head, I was like, no, I can't go on that show. I'm not dancing down the line.

• 50:07Hannah Berner?

  Well, this is my question. Some people dance and I was like, I'm like, that's good. Then some people dance, you're like, that's bad. But then some people, I, and you know, I'm like, I have a lot of false confidence. Some people, I'm pretty sure just go and think, I'll come up with it as I go. And it's crazy. Like, I would have to plan what my moves are gonna be. I'm not just gonna let the music take me.

• 50:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, but what if what you planned isn't the beat of the song they do? And then all of a sudden you're doing the Macarena and they're singing, and they're singing Cotton Eye Joe. Like, then what do you do?

• 50:43Hannah Berner?

  I think I would do the worm.

• 50:44Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's a quick walk and that, the worm's going backwards. You have to go four.

• 50:49Hannah Berner?

  So many good points are being made right now.

• 50:52Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I literally, I said I love Jennifer Hudson. I can't make it work with my schedule right now. But honestly, I'm, I, I was too nervous. Cause I don't wanna do the walk.

• 51:03Hannah Berner?

  But like you would do it all like shy, like you'd be like, and you'd like do a spin. You'd do like one twirl.

• 51:09Paige DeSorbo?

  That's actually a good idea.

• 51:09Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, yeah, like, what I'm saying is if you did it, we'd have to choreograph it. And it's okay if it's not on the beat, as long as you commit to something. Cause some people go and they're flailing and I'm like, you didn't think this one through?

• 51:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, that's all I thought about when I saw the email. It's all I thought about.

• 51:25Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 51:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Do they make up a song? They make one up.

• 51:29Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, that's where they get ya. Cause you're like, you're like a four beat?

• 51:36Hannah Berner?

  An eight beat? I don't know anything about music.

• 51:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I feel like that's.

• 51:40Hannah Berner?

  I also did, I'm gonna put this in the ether. I did have a Dancing with the Stars pro DM me.

• 51:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I heard.

• 51:50Hannah Berner?

  And I'm gonna protect the identity because we don't need to like get into semantics. But, um, Dancing with the Stars, you guys, that's the one thing that I actually don't believe in myself about. And I know it's not about winning, it's about like trying new things, but like I have had Paige try new things.

• 52:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, it's about putting yourself out of your comfort zone. Okay, leaving the house is out of my goddamn comfort zone. You ever have a panic attack in a grocery store? Let me tell you, it's exhilarating.

• 52:16Hannah Berner?

  But the funny thing is if I could do the splits, I would have done Dancing with the Stars 10 years ago.

• 52:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, well, if I could do the splits, I would have done a lot of things.

• 52:24Hannah Berner?

  If I could do the splits, I wouldn't be here right now.

• 52:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Fuck you and this podcast.

• 52:29Hannah Berner?

  I'd be on a yacht right now.

• 52:32Hannah Berner?

  But unfortunately, I have really tight hips.

• 52:35Paige DeSorbo?

  In the, um, like Alex Earl reality show, there's like a clip that she said, like her, she's talking about like her dad, like buying her boob job. And he said like, oh, well, like I knew it was gonna be an investment in your future. And in my head, I'm like, how many girls watched that and looked at their dad and was like, see, like it's, like, could be something, you know?

• 52:56Hannah Berner?

  Ugh, I know. I don't want people to feel that way.

• 53:00Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I know.

• 53:01Hannah Berner?

  I don't want, Paige doesn't have boobs, you guys, and she's done really well up until this point.

• 53:06Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I haven't. Oh, I mean, no, I.

• 53:12Paige DeSorbo?

  That was a Freudian.

• 53:17Hannah Berner?

  And guys, I have boobs and I don't even show them.

• 53:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I really can't take the stress of a boob job. Maybe like after a child, okay?

• 53:25Hannah Berner?

  Do you wanna tell them how much you loved me because I was wearing, I was showing my boobs on the other day?

• 53:30Paige DeSorbo?

  No, so many things happened that day for me to like be drawn to you. One, I picked out, I was Lois on Friday.

• 53:37Hannah Berner?

  Wait, so am I fun to like do a makeover for? Do you feel like I'm Sandra Bullock in Miss Congeniality?

• 53:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I got to pick out your outfit. And I was like, yeah, she's a cool toned girl. Put her in the silver. So I got to pick out your outfit, like your hair was done the way I wanted, your makeup looked the way I liked. And like your boobs were pushed up to the sky. And I was like, yes, like I love it. Like, and you were walking around in heels all day. It was just like, I was like, I get Lois. Like, I get her.

• 54:09Hannah Berner?

  So Jeannie on her TikTok is now doing a like stuff Lois said today.

• 54:16Hannah Berner?

  Series and it's really good. So, oh, Lois is a star. Lois is a star.

• 54:23Hannah Berner?

  I have a question for you.

• 54:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 54:25Hannah Berner?

  When was the last time you listened to your own voicemail?

• 54:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Like my answering machine?

• 54:29Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 54:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't have one.

• 54:31Hannah Berner?

  Do I have one?

• 54:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't think so.

• 54:34Hannah Berner?

  Okay, cause I got really worried today.

• 54:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, should I call you?

• 54:38Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 54:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, okay, and just decline it.

• 54:40Hannah Berner?

  Put it on speaker. I'm so scared right now, you guys. Are you for a real teller?

• 54:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Press decline, you nimwit. We're just gonna sit here on the, obviously you're not answering. I mean, what the hell is wrong with you? Press.

• 54:59Hannah Berner?

  I did it.

• 55:00Paige DeSorbo?

  You've reached the voicemail Hannah Berner. Please leave me a message.

• 55:03Hannah Berner?

  You did? No, I did. No, I did. Who is that? I'm 16.

• 55:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, why the fuck, wait, call mine, call mine, call mine.

• 55:18Paige DeSorbo?

  How did that transfer over? Your call has been. Yeah, like a normal person.

• 55:25Hannah Berner?

  Do you know, like, important people have called my phone.

• 55:30Hannah Berner?

  Why did no one tell me that that was my voicemail?

• 55:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you not get like prank phone calls?

• 55:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Because I feel like I get so many people that will like get my number and they'll call me, but then they're nervous because the answering machine, they're like, is it her? I mean, with you, they're like, yeah, this is.

• 55:44Hannah Berner?

  Oh, that explains a lot of text messages that I've got.

• 55:47Paige DeSorbo?

  For sure. Actually, it's so funny because I, I am this close. I think I'm changing my number.

• 55:53Hannah Berner?

  That's actual fame.

• 55:54Paige DeSorbo?

  One, it's low-key iconic. Two, it's, it's actually, I think, a safety thing for me. It's not like, I just feel too many people have my number that like, I, it's too much.

• 56:08Hannah Berner?

  Well, that sounds freeing as fuck. I think everyone, once you turn 35, should change your phone number.

• 56:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, yeah, I have had the same phone number since high school.

• 56:17Hannah Berner?

  Forty guys' names and hinge after it still in my phone.

• 56:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 56:22Hannah Berner?

  Like, that's unnecessary.

• 56:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, and then I like wanted to delete contacts the other day. Cause I'm like, I don't even, I don't even know who this person is. Wait, are you ever on TikTok and it's like, your friend from your phone book? I'm like, who is, I'm like, no, there's no way that I have her number. I don't know who this is.

• 56:41Hannah Berner?

  I don't like deleting contacts because I like to know who's bothering me.

• 56:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 56:46Hannah Berner?

  Cause when you don't know, you go, who is this? And they tell you and you're like, oh my god, oh my god.

• 56:51Paige DeSorbo?

  I just, I don't answer.

• 56:52Hannah Berner?

  We used to have voicemails. I remember mine was like giggling or something and my dad was like, okay, you have to get a job. Like you can't have a giggling voice mail. And I'm like, okay, so I think that was from when I was like 21. Cause you guys know I don't do admin. I'm not. I don't even know if the Apple phones let you change your voicemail, like.

• 57:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't even know, even know how to get to it.

• 57:11Hannah Berner?

  Well, but if this is permanent for me now, this is like, this is your blueprint in history.

• 57:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Hi, this is Hannah Berner. Thanks for calling. Leave a message. But do you get spam every day?

• 57:24Hannah Berner?

  Maybe like one or two.

• 57:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I get called every single day, no matter what, at least three times a day.

• 57:30Hannah Berner?

  I will never pick up a number.

• 57:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, no, and it's like you're alone and I'm like, oh, hi.

• 57:36Hannah Berner?

  But my problem is because I don't pick up unknown numbers, I miss important deliveries. I miss like someone who needs help. Like I miss all the important phone calls.

• 57:47Paige DeSorbo?

  You ever take a chance and you just answer the unknown and then you're like, fuck, like why did I?

• 57:54Hannah Berner?

  There's a mortgage that we'd like it. I'm like, ah.

• 57:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Or it's someone you know and you're like, fuck.

• 58:02Hannah Berner?

  Oh gosh, um, woman of the week is actually not my Lois, but a different Lois. Her name's Lois Gibson and she's the greatest sketch artist of all time. When she was, when she was young, she was almost killed by a serial killer and she was so traumatized. But because she remembered little details about his face, it helped them solve it or something. Regardless, she was like obsessed with the process of how to find these men. So she's extremely good at drawing and she's like, she's helped to find over 750 criminals. Cause she's so good at, at like, when people tell her to draw, it's like a weird, it's a weird crazy skill.

• 58:46Hannah Berner?

  She's like, gonna book a world record. So shout out to Lois Gibson.

• 58:49Paige DeSorbo?

  How old is she?

• 58:51Hannah Berner?

  I actually don't know. I was like Googling it.

• 58:53Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, I've always wondered if that was like a real thing, like sketch artists for like the police. I'm like, but how do they know?

• 59:00Hannah Berner?

  In 1971, she was 21 years old. So she's like in her seventies now.

• 59:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, that is so crazy because here's the other thing. If I'm in the police station and I'm describing someone, I'm not giving good descrip- I'm like, she's got a fuck ass face because-

• 59:19Hannah Berner?

  Well, that's like when you ask your friend to describe like a guy they're seeing, they're like, he's nice.

• 59:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 59:26Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, he's ugly. Let me, tell me what he really looks like. You know, when they're like, he has really good heart. He's kind, he's sweet. And then they show you like a photo of him in the dark and you're like, show me the photo of him.

• 59:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I always like wonder, what is the photo that people like show of me? Like, what's the photo like people show of me?

• 59:47Hannah Berner?

  You're like, I need to know.

• 59:49Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I need to know. Like I need to know like exes that have like, like that are with their friends and like they're, that I just come up in conversation, but I've, they've never met me. Like I want to know like, oh, what's the photo they show? When they go to my Instagram, like, oh, that was her.

• 1:00:05Hannah Berner?

  Maybe just like one of the newest photos you posted.

• 1:00:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I would hope so. PSA, if you guys are showing my photo, like make sure it's one of like the top three in my grid. Because those are the ones that I'm like most loving right now.

• 1:00:17Hannah Berner?

  Is a good one to use.

• 1:00:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, maybe like the pinned one, like Amy Poehler's in that picture too. And like you could show that around.

• 1:00:24Hannah Berner?

  There's no easy way to segue this, but it is officially fall. And I know a lot of the girls are wearing capris, but as someone who has bought capris in TikTok shop, Amazon, No More Kamali, they're not all created equal. What capris are you recommending? Just like as a normal black capri? Like you could wear your Lululemons. Like what are you wearing?

• 1:00:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I have two that I'm rotate, that I always rotate between. One are my Amazon ones that my tried and true, that my first pair of capris that I love. They have a little cuff on the bottom. And my second one are like a more stretchy one. They're from Helsa. I got them in the beginning of the summer and I've worn them with everything. But it's not necessarily like the brand. Capris aren't all made equally in terms of your own body.

• 1:01:15Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like your fit.

• 1:01:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you have to find what capris length for your legs is the best. Like I'm not, I'm no good right under the knee. I'm no good. I need to go a little bit lower on my shin.

• 1:01:29Hannah Berner?

  Oh, so you like a three quarter court?

• 1:01:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I just think it looks better with my body type.

• 1:01:35Hannah Berner?

  See, I need right over the knee because I need to try to elongate whatever's going on. Or if I've been doing it wrong this whole time, fuck.

• 1:01:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like if you're on, right under the knee, it's chopping you. Because it's like, it's giving like a block of skin, block of capri, block of, you need your legs to look a little bit longer. So I think you should go a little longer. You should go more of like a cigarette pant.

• 1:02:01Hannah Berner?

  But this is the thing with my body type, cigarette pant is kind of straight. And I need, I need more curves potentially. Actually, you know, I haven't figured out jeans.

• 1:02:10Paige DeSorbo?

  More of a kick flare on the bottom.

• 1:02:12Hannah Berner?

  You love saying click, kick flare. You started this whole pod just so you could end it by saying kick flare.

• 1:02:17Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually started Daphne the brand just so I could say kick flare and we use it a lot.

• 1:02:22Hannah Berner?

  Every meeting.

• 1:02:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Like sometimes we'll be like, it's kick flaring too much.

• 1:02:27Hannah Berner?

  Kick flare of the week. Um, you guys, thank you so much for giggling.

• 1:02:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, that was so quick.

• 1:02:32Hannah Berner?

  Do you have anything else to bring to the, on your docket?

• 1:02:35Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I mean, I guess I'll see you guys Friday.

• 1:02:37Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I guess we'll see you later. We love you so much. Um, and have the most beautiful week. Bye.

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