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Paige's anxiety should be studied and Hannah partied this weekend. It’s audiobook summer with @jblaudio Live Headphones. Gigglers comment your favorite audiobook! #JBLpartner shop merch!

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• 0:00Hannah Berner?

  Sweater season is in full effect and Abercrombie is setting a new standard. Thanks to the quality fabrics like 100% cashmere wool blends and other natural fibers, I'm using this drop as permission to curate my entire fall wardrobe around sweaters, especially the World Net Cruise sweater. It's a classic silhouette that I can easily throw on and go or dress up for nights in the city. Outfit accordingly this season with Abercrombie. Shop in the app, online and in stores. I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 0:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Like so many people have my location.

• 0:36Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 0:39Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend like doesn't text you, oh, you got home, you're, you're calling the FBI.

• 0:44Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 0:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 1:01Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So, once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 1:09Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 1:14Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social, like I love everyone, but like.

• 1:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 1:18Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising and you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts. You ignore it all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 1:32Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing, it's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 1:39Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 1:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly women deserve.

• 1:44Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 1:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a T-shirt for real.

• 1:49Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 1:59Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 2:01Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 2:02Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 2:05Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You could check out the full terms in the app.

• 2:17Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 2:18Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 2:23Paige DeSorbo?

  This episode is sponsored by the new Hershey's Creme Bars in Salted Caramel and Afegato. Lately, I've been realizing that luxury doesn't have to mean some huge splurge. Sometimes it's just taking a few minutes to yourself during a busy day. I have one of these moments, oh, I don't know, every day around 2 o'clock. Whether that's making a pick-me-up coffee or maybe I just need to scroll for a little bit on the couch. That's why I'm actually so excited about the new Hershey's Salted Caramel and Afegato Creme Bars available now. I absolutely love a treat yourself moment in the middle of the day. And this is a classic Hershey's Milk Chocolate layered with a Salted Caramel or Afegato Creme filling.

• 3:05Paige DeSorbo?

  So, it feels a little elevated while still being your favorite Hershey's chocolate. Pick up the new Hershey's Creme Bars in Salted Caramel or Afegato wherever you shop for snacks and choose happiness with every bite.

• 3:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Sup, gigglers?

• 3:21Speaker 02

  Carrie, fix the wifi.

• 3:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Manifest that shit.

• 3:24Speaker 02

  We can't be managed.

• 3:29Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:33Hannah Berner?

  Okay, what's up, my garlic gigglers?

• 3:35Paige DeSorbo?

  The energy is so different when we're in person. I love it.

• 3:40Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I love it.

• 3:41Hannah Berner?

  She's like, there's a darkness. A toxicity.

• 3:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel a weird energy.

• 3:45Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, no, it's, it's magic and I missed you, baby.

• 3:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I missed you. How was your weekend?

• 3:51Hannah Berner?

  My weekend was really fun. My friend, Remy, who's in West Hampton with me, texts me and she's like, come to a party. And you, I was like, you know, I don't do parties.

• 4:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 4:00Hannah Berner?

  And she was like, it's my mom's 70th birthday party. I said, I will be there.

• 4:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 4:05Hannah Berner?

  Because one thing about me is I love.

• 4:07Paige DeSorbo?

  You love a mom's birthday.

• 4:08Hannah Berner?

  I love mom's birthday. I love a mother. I love a sama. I love old people getting drunk.

• 4:13Paige DeSorbo?

  She's not old.

• 4:14Hannah Berner?

  No. I love people who like don't have kids anymore getting drunk, like their kids are out of the house.

• 4:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Who have a story to tell.

• 4:23Hannah Berner?

  The stories that, so I show up, there's a flame, a woman doing a flamethrower thing.

• 4:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 4:29Hannah Berner?

  I mean, Remy went all out.

• 4:30Paige DeSorbo?

  You can hire anyone to do anything.

• 4:33Hannah Berner?

  Well, apparently the lady was like, if you want me to eat the fire, it's more money. And Remy was like, yeah.

• 4:39Paige DeSorbo?

  How much more?

• 4:39Hannah Berner?

  How much more? I'll give you everything I have.

• 4:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, did I tell you last summer I hired a mermaid to come swim in a pool?

• 4:45Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and you were like the coolest aunt ever.

• 4:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I loved it.

• 4:48Hannah Berner?

  Like for the rest of your life.

• 4:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I think I have to think of something for Labor Day weekend like that I present.

• 4:53Hannah Berner?

  How do you beat that?

• 4:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know. I've been trying to like think of different things. My new, I think I might rent an ice cream truck to come. I think that's a cute one.

• 5:03Hannah Berner?

  So, yeah, I was, I partied. They actually, this is so cute and I don't mean to blow up their spot, but they recreated her wedding because it's a 35 year wedding anniversary. It was luau themed.

• 5:16Paige DeSorbo?

  What?

• 5:20Hannah Berner?

  In Hawaii, they have luau's?

• 5:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Lays.

• 5:25Hannah Berner?

  Lays.

• 5:25Paige DeSorbo?

  But like luau themed, yeah, I thought you just said wow themed. I was like, what is wow? I was like, I don't know what that is, but I love it.

• 5:31Hannah Berner?

  But everyone was wearing like the same outfits they wore for the wedding in the same spot. They had the same wedding cake. It was just so beautiful to see a couple that.

• 5:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Enjoy each other.

• 5:41Hannah Berner?

  Enjoy each other 35 years.

• 5:43Paige DeSorbo?

  If they're on Housewives and they renewed their vows though, bad omen.

• 5:47Hannah Berner?

  Bad, bad, bad, bad. This was less renewing and more celebrating. And Adina, her mom, do you know what? Moms are just stars, like she's star quality. Like she could carry a room, she could carry a show if she had to. She was at one point just wearing white, like in the middle of the dance floor, like a cult leader. And I was like, whatever this bitch wants, I'm gonna do, like tell me. I was dancing, I had so much fun, so.

• 6:07Paige DeSorbo?

  You went to a nice summer party.

• 6:09Hannah Berner?

  A summer gathering. That's what summer's for.

• 6:12Paige DeSorbo?

  It really is.

• 6:13Hannah Berner?

  How was your weekend?

• 6:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, okay. You know how like sometimes you'll say something on the pod and then like after you're like, no one's gonna get it, like, should I take it out? Like, that's not relatable. Yeah, that's really niche. And people will be like, oh, my God, I feel the same way or like that's exactly what I've, I've done that, whatever. And then there are times where you say something and you're like, everyone gets this. You don't even like give it a second thought.

• 6:39Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 6:40Paige DeSorbo?

  And then like my DMs will be, nope, we've never felt that.

• 6:45Hannah Berner?

  Don't you say so and you're like, I'm a relatable queen and then it's just crickets.

• 6:49Paige DeSorbo?

  So, last week when I was like, anytime I do a butt exercise, my vagina hurts. Like thinking just like everyone in Pilates class was feeling the same thing, like wow, it's really hurting. My entire DMs were doctors and physical therapists being like, you have a pelvic, you have pelvic dysfunction. Like everyone had the same name.

• 7:09Hannah Berner?

  I was gonna say to you privately later, but I was getting doctors as well being like, hey.

• 7:15Paige DeSorbo?

  She was, everyone was like, you have to go to an ortho, like pelvis.

• 7:20Hannah Berner?

  But this is one thing about, first of all, is it pelvis or pelvic?

• 7:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I think.

• 7:24Hannah Berner?

  Both?

• 7:25Paige DeSorbo?

  It's the, one is the plural.

• 7:28Hannah Berner?

  My pelvi, bro, I have no, I've been doing Pilates for years now. No fucking clue what a pelvis is.

• 7:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I think I have a tilted one and, okay, then I'm like.

• 7:37Hannah Berner?

  Is everyone's tilted?

• 7:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Then I'm like looking up stuff about like pelvic dysfunction.

• 7:41Hannah Berner?

  Is it scoliosis again?

• 7:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, there's like different exercises, but like the overall theme is like your whole body's tense. Like it was basically like.

• 7:49Hannah Berner?

  You're locked.

• 7:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Maybe take a breath once in a while, you uptight bitch. It's like, really? The overall, like how to get rid of it, it's like, take a deep breath from your stomach, like we don't know.

• 8:00Hannah Berner?

  95% of our problems on this pod is because we have high functioning anxiety disorder.

• 8:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 8:05Hannah Berner?

  My jaw, your pelvic high. Also, I see like these weird men doing exercises that like, look like, like doing like circular exercises, release sciatica stuff.

• 8:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, all men have sciatica.

• 8:19Hannah Berner?

  And so do I, I think.

• 8:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, do you?

• 8:21Hannah Berner?

  I don't know, but I, I don't not have sciatica.

• 8:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 8:26Hannah Berner?

  I mean, the lower left side of my back always has like a tinge.

• 8:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like someone DM me and she was like, no one should feel like you have, they have to get a massage every week.

• 8:35Hannah Berner?

  Oh, you're like, sorry, what happened to self-care?

• 8:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry for living lavish. Sorry for treating myself once in a while.

• 8:42Hannah Berner?

  You know what it is also, like, I feel like it's your time to have intimacy without having to talk to anyone.

• 8:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Like intimacy with myself? Well, half the time I fall asleep. Okay, that's interesting.

• 8:55Hannah Berner?

  Like when you go to the nail salon and she holds you for like three seconds and you're like, I needed that.

• 9:01Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so true. I don't even give it a second thought when I know someone's gonna touch me intimately for a beauty treatment.

• 9:09Hannah Berner?

  You love it.

• 9:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Except I haven't gotten my vagina lasered. So, that's the only thing that I'm like, that's too intimate.

• 9:17Hannah Berner?

  It's scary.

• 9:17Paige DeSorbo?

  It's scary and I don't.

• 9:19Hannah Berner?

  It's like laser done?

• 9:20Paige DeSorbo?

  It's summer, I don't have the time. Um, okay, I have a couple of things I'd like to go over. One, something that like caught me, like something that just made me wonder, you know, like, you know, like you're on your computer at like midnight, you're like, you can't sleep and you're just like doing things and you're on your phone.

• 9:39Hannah Berner?

  How I go to bed at night?

• 9:40Paige DeSorbo?

  You're just doing stuff and you get like a random thought like about like AI or just like, you know, no one talks about is how now our laptops, like when we want to log into them, like we just do like a fingerprint. Like if I want to log into my Amazon account, I just like do my fingerprint. I don't like it. And like they took it off on the phone because now it's like your eyes, like it's facial recognition.

• 10:05Hannah Berner?

  Why do you think they took it off the phone?

• 10:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know. I liked it on the phone.

• 10:10Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because I felt like I was a spy.

• 10:11Paige DeSorbo?

  It was also way easier to go through someone else's phone.

• 10:16Paige DeSorbo?

  If it was just the fingerprint, now they have to, you could just put their thumb.

• 10:20Hannah Berner?

  While they were sleeping?

• 10:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 10:21Hannah Berner?

  You are a spy.

• 10:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm a spy. But now you have, they have to be awake. I can't go over.

• 10:28Paige DeSorbo?

  I've tried to do it with a picture.

• 10:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Like hold my phone to a phone.

• 10:34Hannah Berner?

  I thought you were, it's because.

• 10:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Has to be three days.

• 10:36Hannah Berner?

  You said, I'm mad at AI. No, you're mad because it's harder for you to check people's phones.

• 10:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm just not loving the extra steps they're giving me.

• 10:44Hannah Berner?

  Is this good for the environment?

• 10:49Hannah Berner?

  You're like, I'm worried about the trees.

• 10:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, my next weird thing that I thought in the middle of the night.

• 10:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I have these really weird thoughts in the middle of the night and then the next day I have to execute them or like I'm like, what was the point of having that thought?

• 11:03Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 11:03Paige DeSorbo?

  So one night I was like, what if I'm like in a rush and I have to grab kitty and like I don't have all of her stuff? I need an

• 11:12Hannah Berner?

  You mean like her Louis Vuitton bag?

• 11:14Paige DeSorbo?

  I need an emergency kitty bag. Like, how do I not have?

• 11:19Hannah Berner?

  Your anxiety is like, should be studied because it's so cute. You're like, I can't go to sleep without having a car away bag from like beautiful guy.

• 11:29Paige DeSorbo?

  I have a navy blue canvas bag that says Daphne on it from Alex Mill. It has inside portable like rubber things that I keep her food in. Then I have a second one for her water.

• 11:42Hannah Berner?

  And canned foods in case there's apocalypse.

• 11:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Then I have a travel, yep, two canned foods. Then I have a travel litter box already filled with litter. It's never been touched.

• 11:54Hannah Berner?

  You're more prepared for your cats made up emergency than I am to just like start my day.

• 11:59Paige DeSorbo?

  If someone invites her away for the weekend and she's, we have to go.

• 12:03Hannah Berner?

  True.

• 12:05Paige DeSorbo?

  What if I'm like, oh my God, I have to get on a flight in an hour. I have to bring Daphne, but I don't have any of her stuff ready.

• 12:11Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 12:12Paige DeSorbo?

  So anyway, that's something else I worked on over the weekend. Another thing I worked on over the weekend was I watched the Michael Jackson movie.

• 12:20Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I haven't watched it. I just watched the Michael Jackson documentary on Netflix.

• 12:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like every time they do a biopic, I get so excited and then I watch it and I'm like, why did you pick that time in their life? Like, I feel like that's the most boring time, like way crazier shit happened in their lifetime and we're not.

• 12:36Hannah Berner?

  Was it his come up?

• 12:37Paige DeSorbo?

  It was from like when he was a little kid to when he like put out Thriller.

• 12:42Hannah Berner?

  Okay. So then when everything got like fucking crazy, they were like, we forgot.

• 12:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's not touch it.

• 12:47Hannah Berner?

  Let's not touch it.

• 12:48Paige DeSorbo?

  My biggest takeaway from it is

• 12:51Hannah Berner?

  Child labor.

• 12:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, the trauma that happened in that home and they don't really, they give it to you in like media literacy. Like you can tell that the trauma happened in their, this home. We're not going through, we're not going into it, but like

• 13:06Hannah Berner?

  Read between the lines.

• 13:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Read between the lines. This is the vibe. And they also make the dad like really scary looking because his eyes are like so piercing blue that it's like, just like gives devil evil. So like they, he played an amazing character, but it's, yeah, it's very like, there's a lot of trauma here and I would assume it explains a lot.

• 13:25Hannah Berner?

  If I was from a family that like the dad was like, you all are going to be amazing at something.

• 13:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 13:30Hannah Berner?

  And like really was traumatized by like the intensity of it. And I didn't even become the star of the family.

• 13:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, you're, you're like the other brothers in the Jackson Five.

• 13:42Hannah Berner?

  I'd be pissed. I mean, I think he takes care of them, but I'd be like, wait, so why did I go through all that torture if Michael was just going to be like?

• 13:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, the dad like tries to keep them as a group, but Michael is

• 13:55Hannah Berner?

  Freakishly more talented?

• 13:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Freakishly more talented and like genius level. Like they do show him like writing all of his own songs, like in the middle of the night. And he would just like come up with these dance ideas and like, he's like, I need to try this. He definitely was a genius. My dad's calling me. Of some sort. Okay. A good comparison is they, the movie a couple of years ago about Serena and Venus Williams. That dad intense, but you didn't get the vibe that he like physically was abusive to the girls.

• 14:29Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. He also, like the girls wanted it, like the girls were in on it with him, but Michael, I feel like he wanted it.

• 14:36Paige DeSorbo?

  That, well, yes, but he was so young, like it's all he knew.

• 14:41Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. It's like, do you want to be a star or?

• 14:44Paige DeSorbo?

  But then you're, but then you do feel like, yeah, he loves it because it is all he knows. But did you know that his head caught on fire? Like, that's how the movie ends.

• 14:52Hannah Berner?

  What?

• 14:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh. When he's like doing a Pepsi commercial.

• 14:55Hannah Berner?

  Okay, was that?

• 14:56Paige DeSorbo?

  It's very, you gotta watch it.

• 14:58Hannah Berner?

  What was in his writer?

• 14:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't care about spoiling the endings of like real

• 15:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 15:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Movies.

• 15:04Hannah Berner?

  You died.

• 15:06Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it was like some like pyro something.

• 15:08Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 15:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I can't believe I just said pyro. Is that right?

• 15:11Hannah Berner?

  That is a hundred percent right.

• 15:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Pyrotechnic?

• 15:13Hannah Berner?

  That was so, look at you getting into different fields. Okay, gigglers, before we get back to the chaos, we need to get something off our chest. As you know, Paige is an avid reader.

• 15:25Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm president of our book club.

• 15:27Hannah Berner?

  And by book club, we mean audio club.

• 15:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 15:30Hannah Berner?

  We're diving into audiobooks this summer, thanks to this segment brought to you in partnership with JBL Live Headphones, which we're wearing right now. How iconic are we?

• 15:41Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm obsessed with JBL Live Headphones because truly, if you are reading an audiobook, it's so easy to immerse yourself in the story. JBL's Live Headphones is what you need to have to do it correctly.

• 15:54Hannah Berner?

  They're so high quality. They're so comfortable. And as women in STEM, I just feel like we need the best technology to enjoy our audiobooks. I mean, I didn't even have these for strangers and now I want to like re-listen with JBL Live Headphones.

• 16:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like last season, blue light glasses were all the rage and the trend. And this year, the aesthetic is the rise of audiobook main character energy and you need your JBL Live Headphones to get the trend.

• 16:22Hannah Berner?

  Also, sometimes when I'm tanning by a pool, it's too bright for me to read.

• 16:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 16:28Hannah Berner?

  I have to listen to the audiobook on my JBL Live Headphones. I don't want to burn out my retina.

• 16:34Paige DeSorbo?

  You can't see.

• 16:34Hannah Berner?

  They're also noise cancelling. So when you're in a chaotic area, you put them on and you can feel at peace with your audiobook. You can hear every detail and you're fully immersed in the story.

• 16:47Paige DeSorbo?

  One of my favorite ways to immerse myself in an audiobook, actually I just started yesteryear, is being at the grocery store and immersing yourself because it feels like you're, you're in a mystical wonderland. Like people are around and they don't even realize they're part of your story.

• 17:01Hannah Berner?

  When I've been running on the treadmill.

• 17:03Paige DeSorbo?

  You think you're better than us.

• 17:04Hannah Berner?

  I love to forget that I'm working out and just listen to my audiobook and be fully immersed. I highly recommend Lena Dunham's recent book because she's so good at narrating.

• 17:15Paige DeSorbo?

  So whether you're in transit or romanticizing errands, do it with a narrator that makes you feel like a dang ten. Thank you for listening to our segment today, brought to you in partnership with JBL. Truly, JBL's Live Headphones are the only way to hear every vivid detail of your audiobook in full color this summer.

• 17:34Hannah Berner?

  Gigglers, let us know what you've been listening to on your Hawker walks this summer or tanning or the subway, wherever you listen. And most importantly, which color matches your vibe? DM us and find your pair at jbl.com.

• 17:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm the last thing on my docket today.

• 17:49Hannah Berner?

  Wait, you're, you can't, you've never come more prepared with your docket.

• 17:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm wearing a cardigan.

• 17:52Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 17:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Look alive. I'm wearing a matching cardigan.

• 17:58Hannah Berner?

  Look alive.

• 18:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Last thing I want to talk about is, have you seen the YSL makeup debate?

• 18:03Hannah Berner?

  That hasn't come across my algorithm. I love when we're, our algorithms are different.

• 18:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Buckle up for this.

• 18:08Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 18:08Paige DeSorbo?

  There's a man. He works at a job, allegedly.

• 18:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Doubt it. He works at a job. He's at his job. They do some type of like raffle giveaway, something. He wins an entire basket of YSL makeup. His wife is at home, I think postpartum or even pregnant. Grace, will you do me a favor and look up the YSL wife? He gives the basket of YSL makeup to his female coworker. The wife, I'm pretty sure like makes a video about it. That's how like we know about it. And the internet is kind of like, mm mm, mm mm.

• 18:47Hannah Berner?

  What was the wife's take in her video?

• 18:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm pretty sure the wife was like, hello, like what, what about me at home vibe?

• 18:54Hannah Berner?

  So she's complaining?

• 18:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 18:56Hannah Berner?

  She's basically like, girls, am I being crazy or is this weird?

• 18:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, yes. Which is one of my favorite phrases to hear from anyone on the planet. It could be anyone.

• 19:05Hannah Berner?

  If a girl says, am I being crazy?

• 19:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Hey, am I being crazy for a second?

• 19:08Hannah Berner?

  I already know she's not crazy because she's even aware that she might be being crazy, which makes you not crazy.

• 19:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And like, give me everything.

• 19:13Hannah Berner?

  And that's being a girl's girl.

• 19:18Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I can't say my lips. Girls go. The claw.

• 19:23Paige DeSorbo?

  My take is, men are stupid, but if my boyfriend, husband, partner is in a situation and something that I would like comes up in conversation or whatever, and I'm not the first thing that pops into his mind, weird. Who else are you thinking of?

• 19:45Hannah Berner?

  Yep.

• 19:46Paige DeSorbo?

  So like, there is a situation where he gets presented this like basket of YSL makeup and he's like, I don't know what the fuck to do with it. And their girl is sitting right next to him and he's like, here.

• 19:55Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, they could be small minded like that.

• 19:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Like that, like, yeah, like I got nervous, whatever. But you would want your husband to win this basket and think, oh, my wife at home is going to love it.

• 20:05Hannah Berner?

  For sure.

• 20:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Also, it brings me to my next topic, which is like the essence of like a work wife.

• 20:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I'll slit your throat with a knife. Don't ever.

• 20:20Hannah Berner?

  I'm not trying to start drama, but there's TikTok videos of like the guy with the like happiest family coming up to you in the morning and being like, I like your shirt. What? I can't tell you I like your shirt? Like just being so flirty at the office.

• 20:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I would kill everyone. Also, if someone's husband came up to me in the office and said that, I'm DMing you.

• 20:44Hannah Berner?

  You're DMing me immediately.

• 20:45Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm DMing you immediately. I'm telling you.

• 20:47Hannah Berner?

  Call 911.

• 20:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 20:49Hannah Berner?

  The problem is the office is like this microcosm of its own.

• 20:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Now, single people, work wife, all you want. Work husband, it, oh.

• 20:59Hannah Berner?

  I thought work wife was like when you have a gay, when he's gay, like I'm his work wife.

• 21:04Paige DeSorbo?

  It's because of the places we've worked.

• 21:06Hannah Berner?

  Or he's my work wife. Yeah, true. We've only worked in like marketing.

• 21:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, we've only worked in happy gay places.

• 21:12Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I worked in sales, but I would hang out with the marketing team because the sales guys were like crazy scary. I'm really scared. I was just hung out with the social media team.

• 21:20Paige DeSorbo?

  I've never bought a single thing from a man ever.

• 21:23Hannah Berner?

  Also, I was so good at sales and they literally, this is such a good callback. They said to me, all that girl does is giggle. Cause I'd be on the phone giggling.

• 21:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Manifested it for us.

• 21:34Hannah Berner?

  Clearly at some point I'm asking for the sale because the money's coming in, baby.

• 21:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 21:38Hannah Berner?

  But I was being pleasant.

• 21:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Break them down, ease with the joke.

• 21:41Hannah Berner?

  I was buttering them up with a little.

• 21:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Would you sell again?

• 21:44Hannah Berner?

  I didn't know. No, I was selling, um.

• 21:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Hats.

• 21:50Hannah Berner?

  SEO for small businesses.

• 21:52Paige DeSorbo?

  What?

• 21:53Hannah Berner?

  It, I, it was very complicated.

• 21:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I thought you were selling shirts and hats.

• 21:56Hannah Berner?

  Oh, that was another time.

• 21:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, oh, okay.

• 21:58Hannah Berner?

  That was another time, but I was like cold calling, but I didn't like cold calling because I'm an empath. So I didn't want to like ruin someone's day. So if they did answer, I'd be like, how you doing?

• 22:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I couldn't, I could never take a job where I have to be on the phone. Like any type of customer service, I would.

• 22:14Hannah Berner?

  I did a lot of emailing though, which the boys didn't see. So I'd be just like emailing, emailing. Um, I was, I was good at it, except I just hated asking people for stuff. Like it's a lot to constantly be like gimme, gimme, gimme. Like I'm a creator.

• 22:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:30Hannah Berner?

  I want to create.

• 22:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:31Hannah Berner?

  So that's why I'd hang out with the social media.

• 22:32Paige DeSorbo?

  You don't know, you know, like even when, like remember in middle school, you'd have to do like, what, remember you'd have to like sell wrapping paper randomly? The school would be like, go home and sell. What was that? Go home and sell this to your friends and family and people would like compete. I think it was like ultimately for the school.

• 22:50Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Who knows where the money actually goes? Did you sell?

• 22:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I forget what I was gonna say about that.

• 22:55Hannah Berner?

  Did you sell cookies for the?

• 22:56Paige DeSorbo?

  For the Girl Scouts? Yeah, but like, I wasn't like getting into it. Like, like if my family was around, like, and if they wanted thin mints, yeah, write your name on the goddamn sheet, but I'm not going door to door.

• 23:10Hannah Berner?

  Going out of house and home to, to get samosas.

• 23:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Samoas. But no, I'm not, I'm not like actively, I never participated.

• 23:20Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 23:21Paige DeSorbo?

  That was one thing that I was like not competitive about. I was like, uncouth, I feel.

• 23:25Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, no, no.

• 23:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not knocking on my neighbor's door and bothering them.

• 23:31Hannah Berner?

  No, it's insane.

• 23:31Paige DeSorbo?

  To sell them shiny wrapping paper.

• 23:33Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. I think that I did it because my dad was like, if you could do cold calling sales, you could do anything in life. So I was, I had that like mentality.

• 23:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, what in nineties? Like early nineties?

• 23:44Hannah Berner?

  He was like coffees for closes. Like, and I still was like very entrenched.

• 23:47Paige DeSorbo?

  You were like seven and he was like, always be closing.

• 23:50Hannah Berner?

  That's literally my dad. That was me and my dad. And I was doing it and immediately, you know, after college, when you have your first job and you're like, this can't be what I do forever. This is crazy. But then I used all that stuff to help like sell my ideas, sell, sell myself. Like we have to sell ourselves every day.

• 24:09Paige DeSorbo?

  We sell our bodies. I sell my IP. Like I sell my, all my thoughts, all my.

• 24:16Hannah Berner?

  Selling yourself is so valuable. Like I love an interview. I love a first date. I love the idea of me.

• 24:25Hannah Berner?

  Small doses of me is fucking perfect.

• 24:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, that's, small doses of anyone is perfect.

• 24:33Hannah Berner?

  When you first get my energy and you get it for like 20 minutes and I leave, people are like, what a pleasant joyful experience.

• 24:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you know that that's just my goal in all of life? To just have 20 minutes with each person that they can walk away and be like, fine. And we don't have to get any deeper than that.

• 24:51Hannah Berner?

  Obviously we're doing long form content here, but it's because me and you bring out the best in each other.

• 24:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, we're, well, we're different. This is different.

• 24:57Hannah Berner?

  It's chemistry.

• 24:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually, speaking of promoting yourself, I went, one of my favorite topics, one of my favorite hobbies. Um, I went to the Teen Vogue summer school thing.

• 25:08Hannah Berner?

  I went to the Teen Vogue.

• 25:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, not Teen Vogue.

• 25:14Paige DeSorbo?

  That's what it was in my.

• 25:15Hannah Berner?

  Teen Vogue after party.

• 25:19Hannah Berner?

  Teen Vogue. My hair's blue.

• 25:21Paige DeSorbo?

  I went to the Vogue summer school, one of their sessions. We were like in an auditor, auditorium. And I, like, they sent me some questions before and I didn't like prepare where I had like written answers in my phone. Because I was talking to like a bunch of high school kids. Like it wasn't like they were getting into like nitty gritty of like Daphne Excel sheet. I don't know.

• 25:50Paige DeSorbo?

  If a smart person was in front of me, couldn't even fathom what they would ask me about the business. So I like looked, glanced at the questions, whatever. I got out there looking at like the sea of like majority girls, some guys and like young, like they were like 15, 16 years old. I couldn't stop being like, I'm so proud of you guys. Like I'm so proud that you're like even thinking about your career. Because it was, I got a little emotional in my own body and like my head, not like physically. Because I was like, we really don't realize that we talk to girls every single week and they really take what we say sometimes to heart.

• 26:32Paige DeSorbo?

  And they should take it with a grain of salt, but that's, that's neither here nor there.

• 26:39Paige DeSorbo?

  So then to see that, it, because when do we ever really see a group of 16 year old girls? One, I'd be terrified, but like we're, we're never really presented with that.

• 26:48Hannah Berner?

  The other day and there was a group of them that came and I was like.

• 26:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I will say, I was like a little nervous when I first walked in there and then I was like, Paige, you're 33. They think you're old as fuck. They probably want to know how many kids you have.

• 27:00Hannah Berner?

  Like I need them to like think I'm funny and cool. Like I'm so embarrassing around 16 year olds.

• 27:04Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and I just thought of like myself at that age. And I said, I was like, the scariest part, I think of starting your career is like right when you get out of college and you're, you have that first job and you're like, this isn't, this couldn't be my job forever. And I was like, and the fact that you're doing this and already thinking about what you want to do career wise and what you want to do for internships. Like it's just so important and I just couldn't.

• 27:30Hannah Berner?

  I love talking to schools.

• 27:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I was like, I can't express enough how important it is to be independent and like not be thinking of.

• 27:37Hannah Berner?

  You're like, when a guy wants to fly you to Monaco and like pay.

• 27:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Get on the goddamn plane.

• 27:45Hannah Berner?

  But I also think in your twenties, you feel old, which is so crazy. But if you think about it, teenagers literally were infants, like a second ago. Like your brain is not fully formed and people are telling you, you have to know what you do for a living.

• 27:58Paige DeSorbo?

  And in my head, I was like, half these girls are here because they have anxiety of like, what am I doing? Like, what am I doing for college? And like, what is my major and stuff? And I, and I tried to emphasize like, it's gonna work out. You just have to keep working towards your goal.

• 28:12Hannah Berner?

  But also not to completely change my mind on what I just said of like, there's no idea, no way you're gonna know what you're gonna do. When you're little, you know what you're gonna do.

• 28:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Like you know it in your gut.

• 28:22Hannah Berner?

  You know it in your gut.

• 28:22Paige DeSorbo?

  And it's almost like as society like beats it out of you and you forget.

• 28:26Hannah Berner?

  You know what's so embarrassing? In seventh grade, I was in drama class.

• 28:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Of course.

• 28:31Hannah Berner?

  And drama class, I saw TikTok about this, how it's like you have a normal school and then you walk by drama class and the kids are like chucking themselves around and screaming and crying and laughing. Like our drama class was crazy. Like, and it was considered like really serious.

• 28:46Paige DeSorbo?

  I like only did it like one year.

• 28:49Hannah Berner?

  No, no, no. This was a specialized performing school in Brooklyn, New York. And Mr. McInney was a teacher. He, Jeremiah and White was in my class. Stars were being born in that class. And like, it was competitive. And he would, we weren't just doing like a play. He would write his own play each year. And that's when I played.

• 29:10Paige DeSorbo?

  It's giving summer heights high.

• 29:11Hannah Berner?

  That's when I played it a hundred percent. I played an Irish pregnant prostitute.

• 29:15Paige DeSorbo?

  In middle school?

• 29:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because it's about the potato famine. And I was pregnant because I was a prostitute. And you can't get an abortion in Ireland. It's called history.

• 29:26Paige DeSorbo?

  How old were you really? High school or middle school?

• 29:28Hannah Berner?

  I was 11. And this was going on in Brooklyn, New York.

• 29:36Hannah Berner?

  So anyway, there was a comedy like section of this class. And they did like a screenwriting competition. And if like you won, then they like put you to like, whatever. I don't know. But I wrote a comedy and my comedy won.

• 29:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Stop. We, we need your mom to find it.

• 29:55Hannah Berner?

  We have, but like back then, like computers didn't save anything. I think she tried because she, but anyway, long story short. Then like I got really into tennis, da, da, da, but like in my heart of hearts, I wanted to just like write funny stuff. Isn't that beautiful?

• 30:09Paige DeSorbo?

  That's beautiful.

• 30:09Hannah Berner?

  And like from a young age, you knew you wanted to put together outfits.

• 30:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I knew I wanted to just like be vain, you know? It's like, I love pretty things. I like looking at them.

• 30:20Hannah Berner?

  Every now and then I see a comment and someone was like, I love how Paige makes me proud of my femininity. Cause it's inherently misogynistic to be like, I'm not like other girls.

• 30:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 30:31Hannah Berner?

  Be like girls.

• 30:31Paige DeSorbo?

  That's my pink aura.

• 30:32Hannah Berner?

  Yes. Also, because of random reasons, maybe it's my mouth, TikTok, who knows going on.

• 30:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Things, yeah.

• 30:41Hannah Berner?

  People become gigglers every day. And someone was like, I feel like bad that I'm like a new giggler and I'm like behind. And I just want to say.

• 30:50Paige DeSorbo?

  We're behind.

• 30:51Hannah Berner?

  We're behind.

• 30:53Paige DeSorbo?

  We are, haven't even been brought up to speed.

• 30:55Hannah Berner?

  But it's so cute because the gigglers are so supportive of each other because they'll be like, welcome. You should probably start with this episode and like, we love you here. But like, we just want to say everyone's.

• 31:05Paige DeSorbo?

  It's kind of the equivalent of like, what picture does like my ex show people of me? Where it's like, what episodes are the girls?

• 31:14Hannah Berner?

  But I've never thought of that.

• 31:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Suggesting that like is the essence of us.

• 31:18Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 31:19Paige DeSorbo?

  You know?

• 31:20Hannah Berner?

  And I guess it's kind of like starting, becoming friends with a friend group who's been friends for a while. And they're like doing all their little stuff, but.

• 31:26Paige DeSorbo?

  We're on a bachelorette party and it's like, this is the, my new friend from adulthood, meeting my high school friend. Okay. Real talk. Have you ever had a thought pop into your head that feels so random and upsetting? And then your brain will just not let it go? Like you try and move on, distract yourself, talk yourself out of it, maybe even Google it? And somehow it just keeps coming back? A lot of people don't realize that can actually be OCD. And OCD is so much more than being neat or organized. It can look like intrusive thoughts, constant doubt, and feeling stuck in a loop, trying to get relief. These thoughts can feel very real, which is what makes them so upsetting. It can attach itself to things you care about most, your relationships, your identity, your values,

• 32:12Paige DeSorbo?

  which is what makes it feel so scary and isolating. But it doesn't have to always be that way because OCD is highly treatable with the right kind of specialized therapy. And that's not regular talk therapy, which can actually make OCD worse. OCD needs ERP or Exposure and Response Prevention, which is proven to be the most effective treatment. And that's where NOCD comes in. NOCD is the world's leading provider of OCD treatment and their licensed therapists are specially trained in ERP therapy. They'll help you learn how to respond differently to intrusive thoughts, so they hold less power over you. And they provide support between sessions when you need it most, so you're never facing OCD alone.

• 32:53Paige DeSorbo?

  NOCD offers live, face-to-face virtual therapy and they're covered by insurance for over 138 million Americans. If this sounds familiar, go to nocd.com to book a free 15-minute call. That's N-O-C-D dot com.

• 33:09Hannah Berner?

  Gigglers, the holidays are coming and Arm and Hammer Hardball Cat Litter and I are making sure all my fellow cat parents are guest ready. You guys know I'm obsessed with cats. I'm a cat missionary and make sure everyone in my life has a cat and I'm doing really well at it. I foster and I'm constantly trying to help cats find homes. And around the holidays, I basically want everyone I know to fall in love with a cat and take one home. But the holidays, you guys are hosting, you have your cat and you have such a to-do list, you know? Hiding things in closets, pretending you're clean, pulling out the snacks. One thing I do not need to add to that list is worrying about cat smell. Arm and Hammer Hardball Cat Litter keeps odors under control and forms compact clumps that make cleanup easy. So that part is already handled in the background.

• 33:52Hannah Berner?

  So then I can focus on my guests and maybe convince one of them they need a cat. For all my fellow cat parents, be guest ready with Arm and Hammer Hardball Cat Litter. Find it now at Walmart or Amazon. One thing about me, I love a protein bar. I'm not going out into the world without my emergency protein bar. It saved me in so many situations, I can't even tell you. But when I'm eating a protein bar, it can't taste like I'm being punished, you know, for trying to eat healthy.

• 34:17Paige DeSorbo?

  That's why I'm obsessed with Stars and Honey. They basically looked at protein bars and said, hmm, why are we choosing between something that supports our goals and something we actually want to eat? Each bar has 15 grams of protein and only four grams of sugar, but the flavors are giving dessert, honey. Iced lemon cookie, mint chocolate chip, red velvet peanut butter mousse? Hello? Who even knew peanut butter could be a mousse?

• 34:42Hannah Berner?

  Because the best habits are the ones you can actually stick to. And consistency is a lot easier when your better-for-you snack is actually something you crave. Their standard is literally, would you still want to eat it if it weren't a protein bar? And that's the energy I need.

• 34:56Paige DeSorbo?

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• 35:38Paige DeSorbo?

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• 36:16Paige DeSorbo?

  That's T-A-L-K-I-A-T-R-Y dot com slash giggly to get matched in minutes. Talkiatory dot com slash giggly. I've always wanted to be more consistent with strength training, but my biggest problem is getting to the gym and thinking, okay, now what? I'll do a few exercises. I remember maybe a pull-up, something I saved on Instagram, but there's never really any planning behind it. That's what I've been loving about the Ladder app. I open it and my workout is already planned for me by an expert coach. I know exactly what exercises I'm doing, how many sets, how many reps. And the in-ear coaching gives me cues and motivation throughout the workout. It genuinely feels like having a personal trainer in my headphones. I love using this whenever I'm in hotels.

• 37:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I've been using it for a while now and I see and also feel myself getting stronger each day because of Ladder. I have also been eyeing their Pilates workout routines for a little while now, so that will definitely be in my next workout venture. And for less than $1 a day, you can't beat it. And I love that Ladder remembers my weights, reps, and sets because I can actually see my progress instead of wondering whether what I'm doing is working. Plus you can get a new plan every week that builds on the last. Remove the guesswork with Ladder and get a real coach in your ear telling you exactly what to do for every workout. No thinking, everything planned for you. And if you have an iPhone, head to ladder.fit/giggly and take a quick quiz to find your perfect ladder plan.

• 37:41Paige DeSorbo?

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• 37:48Hannah Berner?

  I'm about to turn 35 next month.

• 37:50Paige DeSorbo?

  I know. I was thinking about it the other day because I saw some.

• 37:53Hannah Berner?

  Are you still gonna be friends with me?

• 37:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I am. I just don't know what to get you.

• 37:58Hannah Berner?

  You know what? I want something vintage.

• 38:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I know.

• 38:00Hannah Berner?

  And cute that I could like tell a story and be like Paige got this for me.

• 38:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Can find something that's 35 years old.

• 38:06Hannah Berner?

  I don't like that.

• 38:08Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, it's funny because when I turned 30, I was like, I'm not gonna care about turning 40, but I'm already thinking about it and I do care.

• 38:15Hannah Berner?

  Well, that's because, one thing about your anxiety is it's ahead of its time.

• 38:18Paige DeSorbo?

  It's quick. Mine is, she's quick. And like I'll forget about things quickly, which is nice, but it just means there's something new on the horizon. Like this morning, perfect example, this morning I'm getting dressed and I put this cardigan on and I go, I have a yellow miniskirt that's this color, where is it? So I have a list in my phone of things that I can't put.

• 38:41Hannah Berner?

  And they're lonely and you're worried that they're lonely somewhere scared without you.

• 38:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm just like, I lost them. They think I threw it out. I didn't throw it out. It was by accident.

• 38:49Hannah Berner?

  Mental health moment?

• 38:52Hannah Berner?

  All those thoughts that you have in the middle of the night, that you're like, you think of and you're like, how have I not been dealing with this all day? Why is this coming to me in the middle of the night? Like this is the biggest thing in my life right now. Those thoughts aren't real.

• 39:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, Kate's emergency bag is very real.

• 39:09Hannah Berner?

  Try to just be like, I'll deal with this in the morning and then don't.

• 39:12Paige DeSorbo?

  But do you write it down to remember it at a later date or you're like, that's not even?

• 39:16Hannah Berner?

  The dark voices.

• 39:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 39:18Hannah Berner?

  That come through my psyche.

• 39:20Paige DeSorbo?

  The next time you text me and say, hey, do you and Kitty want to go to the Hamptons? I'll say, getting in the car because I'm packed and ready.

• 39:27Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I got into Mahjong K-hole. I play Mahjong on my phone. Not real Mahjong, like just the like. I got really worked up because I couldn't get past a level. Next thing I knew is 3 a.m.

• 39:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, but I can't shop on Amazon at 3 a.m. But you can learn a whole new sport.

• 39:42Hannah Berner?

  Never said you can't shop on Amazon. I said, stop making up lies and then causing yourself heart palpitations.

• 39:48Paige DeSorbo?

  No, sometimes.

• 39:49Hannah Berner?

  Maybe your pelvis will be better.

• 39:50Paige DeSorbo?

  I will think of something and I'll be like, if I don't go to my phone right now and order it on Amazon, like I'll freak out.

• 39:56Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 39:57Paige DeSorbo?

  That's not good. That's not good.

• 39:58Hannah Berner?

  I have a question and everyone's been wondering it. Continue.

• 40:02Paige DeSorbo?

  I want to show you these shoes because I feel like they're very you coated.

• 40:05Hannah Berner?

  Didn't you pull that out so swiftly? Was that in your pocket?

• 40:11Paige DeSorbo?

  My foot's right here.

• 40:14Hannah Berner?

  She didn't pull it out of your ear.

• 40:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I did present it like a magician. Like I had it floating.

• 40:23Hannah Berner?

  It's like when you take out a panini, you always do that. You always do it like with your, oop. Lost, lost my top.

• 40:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I love presenting things to you in like a really cohesive manner.

• 40:37Hannah Berner?

  Well, those are cute.

• 40:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like these are such a usual.

• 40:40Hannah Berner?

  Are they for wide feet?

• 40:41Paige DeSorbo?

  It's a ballet flat, but it has like a little bit of a heel. So like changes your whole vibe in like jeans without being like flat to the ground.

• 40:51Hannah Berner?

  It's aldo, right? Or what is it?

• 40:56Paige DeSorbo?

  It's in it.

• 41:00Hannah Berner?

  Oh, everyone wants to know. Is your hair in a side part or a middle part right now?

• 41:07Paige DeSorbo?

  It's Sunday afternoon.

• 41:11Paige DeSorbo?

  So I'm actually not in charge and it's illegal that I'm even here.

• 41:15Hannah Berner?

  It's none of your business, actually.

• 41:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's actually none of your business.

• 41:18Hannah Berner?

  Cause I'm being thrown. It kind of starts.

• 41:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Jessie wants me to be a certain way and, and millennials want me to be a certain way. And I do like to do both on the same day.

• 41:30Hannah Berner?

  She's fluid. She's versed.

• 41:33Paige DeSorbo?

  I like to do a middle part for like starting out. And then you have a sunglasses on your head or you're in a conversation and you just, you side it up.

• 41:42Hannah Berner?

  You know why I'm stressed when like you're hanging out with me at home and I have my

• 41:47Hannah Berner?

  hair tie on my wrist and my hair keeps going up and then going down and then going up and then going down. What is that called?

• 41:52Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, I've replaced that with big claw clips. Because I find the reason I'm taking it out of the hair tie is because it's falling. And I don't like the sensation of that or like feeling like it was on top of my head or it's like too tight. Do you big, do you have a big claw clip?

• 42:08Hannah Berner?

  So claw clips, I do like.

• 42:10Paige DeSorbo?

  This is the nitty gritty that we need to get into.

• 42:12Hannah Berner?

  I'm actually about to get into real nitty gritty.

• 42:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Because they're not all created equal.

• 42:16Hannah Berner?

  And the problem with claw clips is that you can't sit back. Like you're in the car. You can't sit back your head. You're, you're watching TV. You can't sit back. So then the girl leaves.

• 42:26Paige DeSorbo?

  But sometimes I find it comfortable bec- if you're under something and it perches you up almost.

• 42:31Hannah Berner?

  Oh, like it hits a certain like acupuncture point? And you're like, oh, that feels kind of nice.

• 42:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like sometimes it helps, but I have scoliosis.

• 42:41Hannah Berner?

  The only thing that helps my scoliosis is a claw clip in the back of my cranium.

• 42:46Paige DeSorbo?

  I keep getting clips of like people with real scoliosis.

• 42:51Hannah Berner?

  Do you want to apologize to the community?

• 42:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I do because I, I'm not making light because mine is like non-existent. Some people like are really in pain.

• 42:58Hannah Berner?

  I just thought scoliosis was going to be more rampant. Or people just don't talk about it.

• 43:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like people aren't talking about it.

• 43:05Hannah Berner?

  But you know what people are talking about? Girls are inventing claw clips that are soft. So that when you push your head back, it like closes. So this is where um, the scientific research is going into.

• 43:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Is it like made of rubber?

• 43:20Hannah Berner?

  I think so. So they're, they're working on that, changing the game with that.

• 43:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, did you watch that documentary?

• 43:26Hannah Berner?

  Did you watch that documentary?

• 43:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I started it. I haven't finished.

• 43:31Hannah Berner?

  So, cause I'm like learning from my past mistakes, I'm not going to tell you guys what happens, even though you know I want to so bad.

• 43:37Paige DeSorbo?

  But I watched half of it and I actually convinced myself that I could move on from it.

• 43:42Hannah Berner?

  No, no, no.

• 43:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Because you would tell me the ending.

• 43:45Hannah Berner?

  But the thing is, the thrill of this is you think it's done halfway and then it throws you. Do you want to be surprised by me? Or by the screen while you're watching your phone?

• 43:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, how long has it been out for?

• 43:57Hannah Berner?

  A week?

• 43:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you.

• 43:59Hannah Berner?

  Okay, get him out of her. Get him out of her. So what's it about? You start, you start.

• 44:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I stopped at the girlfriend is pregnant. She's calling the cops because the ex-girlfriend is stalking her, sending her like crazy emails. She tried to send a guy to come to her house and sexually assault her. And they, the police just went to the ex-girlfriend's house and the ex-girlfriend's like, what are you talking about?

• 44:32Hannah Berner?

  Incredible setup. And also I just want to, this is so fucked up. They're saying that the ex-girlfriend is putting Craigslist ads saying, I want to be essayed.

• 44:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, pretending to be the current girlfriend.

• 44:44Hannah Berner?

  And giving the current girlfriend's house and address, basically being like, I'm gonna fight, I'm gonna say no. Let's, this is roleplay, keep going. So that's the most sinister thing I've ever heard in my life. And they were just like, we're warming up.

• 44:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, Craigslist isn't regulated. Like you can just go on the internet.

• 45:03Hannah Berner?

  The fun thing about Craigslist is like, I fully can find a great apartment there. Like, I found so many apartments on Craigslist.

• 45:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I can also find a man in a bunny costume, willing to do anything.

• 45:14Hannah Berner?

  No one has the Oscar range of Craigslist and no one talks about it. Also Craigslist is like, we're never updating our website. And there's something beautiful about that.

• 45:22Paige DeSorbo?

  And I feel like OnlyFans had this like insane glow up of like, they had articles after articles, they had spokespersons. They have faces of OnlyFans and it's like Craigslist has been around.

• 45:35Hannah Berner?

  Zero PR.

• 45:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Zero PR and you could essentially do the exact same thing. It's just a written forum.

• 45:41Hannah Berner?

  What's great about this documentary is I love how it can control your biases, biases, pelvis, pelvis. Because you can.

• 45:50Paige DeSorbo?

  I hate the word biopic.

• 45:51Hannah Berner?

  It sounds like a biopsy.

• 45:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like then that just reminded me of it. I hate when people say biopic.

• 45:58Hannah Berner?

  Biopic makes it scientific. I'm like, it's not.

• 46:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Like shut up. It's a movie.

• 46:01Hannah Berner?

  No, it's like a film. It's a film.

• 46:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's a movie. Okay, keep going.

• 46:05Hannah Berner?

  So she, also wait, I hate to say it. I thought the guys were gay.

• 46:10Paige DeSorbo?

  You know me, I think.

• 46:12Hannah Berner?

  So like I.

• 46:13Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't even question it at this point. I'm like, whatever you are saying, sure, we'll go with that. Like who am I?

• 46:20Hannah Berner?

  The whole time you're like, this fucking crazy ex-girlfriend is trying to ruin the new girlfriend's life. And you're like, these crazy ex-girlfriends. But one thing we know is when someone calls an ex-girlfriend crazy, there's a lot of the time more to the story.

• 46:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, there's more to the story.

• 46:34Hannah Berner?

  There's more to the story. So the cop goes up, finally goes up to um, the ex-girlfriend's house and it's like, you're being arrested for, for the emails.

• 46:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 46:44Hannah Berner?

  And the girl goes, uh, I know it was like a bad email. I was going through a time and immediately in my head, I was like, she wouldn't admit to it. If she did it. She was admitting to probably sending a post-breakup email where you're like, go fuck yourself kind of thing.

• 47:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Very therapeutic.

• 47:02Hannah Berner?

  Therapeutic, recommended.

• 47:04Paige DeSorbo?

  I wish I could find some old ones that I've gotten. But one night in my

• 47:11Paige DeSorbo?

  one night in my middle of the night, like computer siege, I tried to find like old ones from like college in my email, but it kinda.

• 47:19Hannah Berner?

  I feel like I have like crazy Facebook messages, like paragraphs. So immediately I'm like, something's wrong. But the girl is just like, yeah, I was going through a really difficult time. It was crazy. So she sounds like she's admitting to it. She's like, I had a psychosis. And I was like, okay.

• 47:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, yeah.

• 47:35Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 47:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Happens to the best of us.

• 47:36Hannah Berner?

  We're taking accountability and we're moving on. Let's stop. We found the problem, nixed the problem, let's move.

• 47:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Great.

• 47:44Hannah Berner?

  So the second half goes into who is this new pregnant girlfriend? In her past, she's faked cancer.

• 47:54Hannah Berner?

  Which is a thi- this is a certain mental illness that I'm seeing in a lot of documentaries right now.

• 47:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I wonder what that is.

• 47:59Hannah Berner?

  The faking pregnancy, the faking cancer. The Clayton um, Bachelor podcast is about the same thing. There's a certain mental illness where you love lying about.

• 48:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Like sympathy, you love like sympathy.

• 48:13Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and pregnancy is like under, because when you're pregnant, everyone has to treat you differently. Same with cancer.

• 48:21Hannah Berner?

  Same with like injury faking, that kind of stuff. So I'm like, okay, she's one of these. So she, they literally filmed the boyfriend realizing that she's, doesn't have cancer. And that she's and that she's not pregnant.

• 48:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 48:38Hannah Berner?

  Cause she was saying she was, uh, who, who, whatever. She has an intervention. And she's like, I'm leaving.

• 48:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Can we just say one thing? How dumb are these men? Like, I feel like it's really hard to fake pregnancy.

• 48:51Hannah Berner?

  Well, maternal instinct also. She faked a pregnancy. She was 50 weeks pregnant at one point.

• 48:57Paige DeSorbo?

  That, there's a physical evidence. Like if you say cancer, okay, no one can see it inside your body. There's a stomach right there.

• 49:05Hannah Berner?

  About the YSL man. They don't think big picture. They're like, she says she's pregnant. I gotta, I gotta go.

• 49:12Paige DeSorbo?

  You guys don't brush past each other in the bathroom? Like, what are you talking about? Like, this would like, here's how I know.

• 49:19Hannah Berner?

  You just turned into Gary.

• 49:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Cause I was just gonna say, none of these people are Italian. Because what do you mean? Someone in the family is pregnant, you haven't hugged and you couldn't feel that was a pillow?

• 49:30Hannah Berner?

  They're not Italian.

• 49:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Anyway, keep going.

• 49:33Hannah Berner?

  But I do think with technology, they probably have some good fake pregnancy bellies on Amazon.

• 49:38Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, I actually wore one.

• 49:41Paige DeSorbo?

  On like an episode of Winter House. It was, don't, we really, we had run out of themes. We, let's just say we had run out of themes.

• 49:49Hannah Berner?

  Let's just say I wasn't there, just pick up.

• 49:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I had disassociated it so hard. I actually wasn't there. I said, sure, this is what we're doing now.

• 50:01Paige DeSorbo?

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• 50:45Paige DeSorbo?

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• 51:28Paige DeSorbo?

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• 52:12Paige DeSorbo?

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• 52:55Paige DeSorbo?

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• 53:40Paige DeSorbo?

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• 53:50Hannah Berner?

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• 53:57Paige DeSorbo?

  No, if I'm wearing a hat, I'm a different person. Okay, the weather totally changes how you feel, and it's obviously like getting a little cooler out, and I'm a different girl in a turtleneck.

• 54:10Hannah Berner?

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• 54:28Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm a creative director of somewhere.

• 54:32Hannah Berner?

  Then boots with a little kitten heel or a high heel. When I'm wearing boots, I command a room.

• 54:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and don't get me started on just like a really good dinner outfit. You get me a new blazer to go out to dinner, I'm having a time.

• 54:47Hannah Berner?

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• 54:59Paige DeSorbo?

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• 55:24Hannah Berner?

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• 55:49Paige DeSorbo?

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• 56:24Hannah Berner?

  She leaves that relationship. And what's great about the con artists is they love to reappear like in a slightly different neighborhood.

• 56:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, with a different hair color.

• 56:33Hannah Berner?

  She went from blonde to brunette, and I was like, I've never seen this bitch before.

• 56:36Paige DeSorbo?

  And at the end of the day, we're all just girls. And it's like when you know your mom's getting older, we're all just girls. At the end of the day, con artists want to feel pretty.

• 56:44Hannah Berner?

  But you start smiling, you start like envisioning her like, okay, so is she behind it all? Is she, one, is she pregnant? Two, did she just want, did she hate the ex-girlfriend? And she felt like the ex-girlfriend was always gonna be in her life?

• 57:02Paige DeSorbo?

  But the guy was like, I haven't talked to my ex-girlfriend like...

• 57:05Hannah Berner?

  But the thing is, the ex-girlfriend owns his condo.

• 57:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, right, okay.

• 57:09Hannah Berner?

  The ex-girlfriend owns the condo that they're living in. So long story short, it's something weird. But also, also, every time the cops come, this is, I do have to say, someone needs to give an award to, what are the cameras they have outside of your house?

• 57:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Ring cameras?

• 57:25Hannah Berner?

  Ring cameras and cop cameras.

• 57:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Remember when?

• 57:28Hannah Berner?

  Are doing the grunt work.

• 57:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, remember during the Super Bowl, Ring Camera made that crazy commercial? And they were like, hey, we're gonna track everything. And everyone was like, I don't think so. Do you remember that? They were like, you're gonna be able to connect to your neighbors, like Ring cameras to see if you had a, like, we're gonna be able to see, take pictures or whatever, and like, find your missing dog. And everyone was like, no.

• 57:53Hannah Berner?

  Don't love that, but incredible for a Netflix documentary. Because you're just seeing the footage. So, but every time they come in, the husband's really worked up. Like, the husband's like, this fucking bitch. That's how he talks.

• 58:08Hannah Berner?

  He's like, this fucking bitch keeps sending us crazy messages. And the girl's explaining, and then they're both on their computers. Like, it's giving, they're in it together.

• 58:15Paige DeSorbo?

  It's giving like they're sending it to themselves.

• 58:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but then they find out that this girl is faking her pregnancy. This, in this new, yeah. So then he goes to the police and he's like, I'm sleeping with the enemy. I don't trust anything about her.

• 58:33Paige DeSorbo?

  How'd he find out?

• 58:35Hannah Berner?

  The cops told him, I think.

• 58:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 58:37Hannah Berner?

  So now you're like, okay, it's all this crazy girlfriend. But you're like, now we have an ex-girlfriend in jail. Can someone check up on her? The ex-girlfriend sits down and goes, I need to tell you about this man. And I go, finally, some juice.

• 58:52Paige DeSorbo?

  What?

• 58:53Hannah Berner?

  She goes, let me tell you about this man I dated and why I was in a psychosis. So apparently, first of all, he's a Disney adult, which is pleasant for many people. I didn't like it coming from him. And she was like a very wholesome person. I guess he wanted his bell.

• 59:11Hannah Berner?

  I try not to judge.

• 59:12Paige DeSorbo?

  No, Disney adults for women, different. I'm not even gonna say cute, but like, different? Do your thing, girl, you're on your own journey and reach for depth. Men being Disney adults?

• 59:24Hannah Berner?

  On their own, not part of a family, a single man as a Disney adult? I'm calling the police.

• 59:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Don't come near my children, I'll tell you that.

• 59:30Hannah Berner?

  So he's like, you're my bell? And she's like, okay. And then, but she's really like, kind of prude and sweet, like doesn't do drugs and whatever. So they move in together. For some reason, she buys the condo, which I don't love, because she was, it's not like she had money. She was like, I'm broke, but I got us this condo. I'm like, I don't like that. But anyway, then he starts asking her, I wanna see you hook up with another man. So my gator is going off. No one mentioned it the whole documentary. I'm like, he wants to see?

• 1:00:00Paige DeSorbo?

  A man.

• 1:00:00Hannah Berner?

  A dick.

• 1:00:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:02Hannah Berner?

  But I digress.

• 1:00:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, again, you don't judge.

• 1:00:04Hannah Berner?

  I don't judge. And she's like, I'd actually like rather not.

• 1:00:10Hannah Berner?

  She's like, ooh, that's actually the one part of-

• 1:00:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Cool, cool. I love that.

• 1:00:15Hannah Berner?

  That we're getting creative.

• 1:00:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:17Hannah Berner?

  I love brainstorming. I love you throwing ideas in and we'll pick which ones work. But she was like, no, apparently every fucking day he was bringing it up to her.

• 1:00:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:00:25Hannah Berner?

  And he was like crazy controlling. So he like is tracking her, telling her what to wear, how to act. And she's young. Again, she's like 10 years younger than him. She's 25. We're moldable.

• 1:00:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:36Hannah Berner?

  And finally she's like, okay, like I'll sleep with a man.

• 1:00:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:00:40Hannah Berner?

  If you want me to. And she was just like traumatized by it. She was like, it's fucked up. And eventually she has like escape from him. Someone was visiting and she like ran out. So like, you know, it's fucking bad.

• 1:00:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:00:55Hannah Berner?

  And he's blowing up her phone, all this stuff. And she goes into like a fight or flight psychosis.

• 1:00:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:00Hannah Berner?

  And she was found like in the middle of a field.

• 1:01:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I can't believe I haven't left somewhere in the middle of the night. That's so me.

• 1:01:07Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:07Paige DeSorbo?

  To be like, you know what? I'm just gonna leave.

• 1:01:09Hannah Berner?

  I mean, I hope you don't ever have to. But if you can, you'll be able to bring Daphne very fast. That's one thing we know.

• 1:01:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, that's-

• 1:01:16Hannah Berner?

  That's one thing. Daphne will be fine.

• 1:01:19Paige DeSorbo?

  You never know. You literally never know.

• 1:01:21Hannah Berner?

  We found Paige in a field, but her cat had a Louis Vuitton bag.

• 1:01:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Daphne's like in a bed that has like four posts and we're just like on the sidewalk. Like, we're figuring it out. Figuring it out. It was an emergency.

• 1:01:37Hannah Berner?

  Emergency move.

• 1:01:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Anyway, okay, keep going.

• 1:01:39Hannah Berner?

  So she was in psychosis, found by a Native American family.

• 1:01:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:01:43Hannah Berner?

  And they were like, this girl needs help.

• 1:01:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:01:45Hannah Berner?

  And then she kind of gets out of the psychosis and sends him an email. It's basically like, go fuck yourself.

• 1:01:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Okay. And that's the email. She was like, sorry.

• 1:01:52Hannah Berner?

  And I think in the email, she said something kind of religious about like God is watching or like something.

• 1:02:00Paige DeSorbo?

  What's that?

• 1:02:01Hannah Berner?

  Let me find a nickel.

• 1:02:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually, it doesn't seem like it. It's getting crazy.

• 1:02:07Hannah Berner?

  God was watching.

• 1:02:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it seems like he X'd out of the tab accidentally.

• 1:02:09Hannah Berner?

  God was too busy to deal with this stuff. So I guess the girlfriend used words from her email to continue that voice. But also what was crazy about-

• 1:02:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Kind of smart.

• 1:02:19Hannah Berner?

  But wasn't smart. The emails that they're getting, I was like, how do they know it's the ex-girlfriend? She was signing it, Michelle.

• 1:02:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Perfect.

• 1:02:26Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, if I was sending crazy emails to someone, the one thing I, even that mom who was sending crazy text messages, she's not signing it, your mom.

• 1:02:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 1:02:33Hannah Berner?

  Like, there's something mysterious about you not knowing who it's coming from, this whole point. And they were like, Michelle, the shitty ex-girlfriend. Like, that's how they were signing it. So that was fucking weird. So then you're like, wait, this guy, this is where multiple truths can be true. She's a con artist.

• 1:02:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:50Hannah Berner?

  He's a psychopath. Together.

• 1:02:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Perfect marriage. So who was sending the email?

• 1:02:56Hannah Berner?

  So they think, they did research on the creator. They think it was coming from him.

• 1:02:59Paige DeSorbo?

  He was sending it to the girlfriend who was lying about being pregnant, pretending to be his ex-girlfriend.

• 1:03:05Hannah Berner?

  And I think she was in it. And he, oh, guess what he used, he used to get a guy to come over for like Craigslist.

• 1:03:15Paige DeSorbo?

  How has Craigslist not been shut down, even for like a month?

• 1:03:20Hannah Berner?

  Like, all PR is good PR.

• 1:03:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, there's definitely been murders where people have met on Craigslist.

• 1:03:28Hannah Berner?

  I think because when it gets to the court, they're like, if you thought you were gonna go on Craigslist and have a good experience, that's on you, baby.

• 1:03:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Craigslist has a phenomenal law team. Whoever is in the law department there, because how many times have they probably had to been like not liable? We have nothing to do with that.

• 1:03:45Hannah Berner?

  Because Craigslist does, their whole business theme is under promise, over deliver. They're, they never say they're gonna be helpful. No.

• 1:03:54Hannah Berner?

  It's probably like, we're stuff online. Like, I don't know. It's like, we're Craig.

• 1:03:58Paige DeSorbo?

  We're here, but don't really involve us.

• 1:04:01Hannah Berner?

  Bad things might happen. That's their tagline. So when something bad happens, they're like, that's, but if something good happens, like you get a kitten from it, you're like, holy fuck, that was amazing Craigslist. But they're like, but don't expect that every time.

• 1:04:12Paige DeSorbo?

  We have a lot of bad qualities, but sometimes we have good qualities. Focus on them.

• 1:04:18Hannah Berner?

  I would love their marketing meeting. Like, I'd love to be in it and to be like, is this the month that we maybe update the font? And someone's like, go fuck yourself!

• 1:04:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, something really bad happens on Craigslist and they're like, this month we're gonna focus on apartments for sale. Like, let's-

• 1:04:33Hannah Berner?

  Also, there's someone who sees all the stuff going on at Craigslist and is just like, this is another day at work.

• 1:04:39Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that's what I'm saying. Like, I need to talk to someone who works at Craigslist to deal with like the weird shit.

• 1:04:46Hannah Berner?

  There has to be a giggler at Craigslist.

• 1:04:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, and I'm sure, like, they have to be getting called by the police a ton too. Like, hey, we think there's like a link between someone that emailed someone.

• 1:04:55Hannah Berner?

  Also, you know, other sites, they have to put so much, like, you're not allowed to post this, that. I'm pretty sure Craigslist is like, you could post whatever and it, no one really cares.

• 1:05:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. Like, does Craigslist have an approval? Like, where you post something and then like they have to approve if that's okay? Or it, you can just post anything and it just shows up?

• 1:05:11Hannah Berner?

  Post. And like, it's, the creeps are very organized. Like, they're like, I'm looking for this with this with this. They put it in wherever it has to be in the category and they find each other. I literally found three apartments on Craigslist. It's really good in New York.

• 1:05:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you want to know something? I've never even typed in Craigslist before. I don't even know-

• 1:05:31Hannah Berner?

  I know what you're doing tonight.

• 1:05:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't even know what the homepage looks like.

• 1:05:36Hannah Berner?

  You're about, whenever I wanted a kitten, I would go into Craigslist and be like, orange kitten Bronx.

• 1:05:41Paige DeSorbo?

  And you can shop and you can like-

• 1:05:43Hannah Berner?

  The people literally just like put their cell phone number and you just text them and you're like, hey, I like your kitten. They're like, great.

• 1:05:49Paige DeSorbo?

  They're like, great, come over.

• 1:05:51Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. But you know, in the 90s, we had community.

• 1:05:57Hannah Berner?

  I don't know if it was around the 90s.

• 1:05:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:59Hannah Berner?

  That's the internet.

• 1:05:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:59Hannah Berner?

  But, um, so yeah.

• 1:06:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, cool. I actually am gonna do like a deep dive on Craigslist. Like, are people shopping for like, is there like vintage clothes on Craigslist? Like, is there a, like, like if I went on and said, hey, I have this cat for sale. Is Craigslist verifying that I have a cat for sale?

• 1:06:17Hannah Berner?

  They can only do so much. Let's not ask too much of Craigslist. Craigslist is with, is if Etsy and Street Easy and eBay had a really bad child.

• 1:06:29Paige DeSorbo?

  eBay needs better PR. You know what? I think they need to update their font and their color scheme. Because eBay, though, if you're, if you go on to buy like something vintage clothing wise by eBay, they're getting it first and making sure it's right. I've seen a lot of TikToks of girls who have gotten like really crazy bags from eBay that went through a whole approval process and stuff.

• 1:06:51Hannah Berner?

  The Victoria's Secret show. We were like, what if we wore vintage Victoria's Secret?

• 1:06:55Paige DeSorbo?

  And you got it on eBay.

• 1:06:56Hannah Berner?

  And we found a $13 slip from eBay.

• 1:06:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:59Hannah Berner?

  This is non-sponsored.

• 1:07:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. But, um- I agree with eBay.

• 1:07:02Hannah Berner?

  But yeah, Craigslist, just have little-

• 1:07:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Just beware.

• 1:07:05Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, just-

• 1:07:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Craigslist is like that cousin that you only see like once in a while, who's like, every time you see them, they're like into something new and you're like, he smokes weed now?

• 1:07:17Hannah Berner?

  Also, I love that like the girlies get really into Craigslist.

• 1:07:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Do they for what?

• 1:07:21Hannah Berner?

  I don't know.

• 1:07:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh.

• 1:07:22Hannah Berner?

  Maybe after this pod, we'll see.

• 1:07:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Let me just check my docket, make sure I didn't have anything else.

• 1:07:27Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Well, I do have to say, our merch, we basically sold out, so we're ordering some more. That's how it works.

• 1:07:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:36Hannah Berner?

  So we ordered some more and-

• 1:07:39Paige DeSorbo?

  You're saying it like smores? Some more?

• 1:07:42Hannah Berner?

  I know I'm having issues with my mouth.

• 1:07:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry.

• 1:07:44Hannah Berner?

  Some more, actually, some more is hard for me to say.

• 1:07:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, well, maybe that's a good thing for you to work on when you're like at home in bed.

• 1:07:51Hannah Berner?

  Like, maybe work on that in your own time. Not on our professional podcast. She goes, this is the Olympics.

• 1:07:56Paige DeSorbo?

  On your personal diary, it's actually, we draw the line at that. Okay.

• 1:08:01Hannah Berner?

  Well, thank you for giggling with us. We'll talk to you guys later. Bye.

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