Giggly Squad
Hosted by Hannah Berner and Paige DeSorbo
Hannah will never learn her lesson at the airport and Paige has a big announcement. subscribe to our newsletter shop merch
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I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.
Like, so many people have my location.
And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.
And if your friend, like, doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.
Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. Even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?
Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.
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And you know, I love alone time and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.
Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like.
Please, nobody speak to me.
Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.
And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.
And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.
Which truly women deserve.
We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.
Yeah, I mean, put that on a t-shirt, for real.
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And we spend enough of our lives being on.
Exactly.
We don't need to be on in the car.
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Sup, gigglers?
Carry a fixture wifi.
Manifest that shit.
We can't be managed.
I mean, the day just got away from me.
What's up, my glossy gigglers?
Oh.
I don't know.
Okay.
I don't know. I'm having fun.
You look so gorgeous today. And I came in being like, it's Friday, I'm gonna be like in sweats, I'm doing like, no makeup.
I'm wearing a see-through poncho.
I know. You sat down and I was like, oh, okay, Shaw.
I was also 10 minutes late. And I said, look, if you want me to look pretty, I will be 10 minutes late. If you want me to look ugly, I'll be early. Pick your poison.
You know what I used for the first time? You know, that's, it's like this makeup. It's called Ella Roses. I used a little bit of their like blush and eyebrow gel.
Obsessed.
It was just like, it's a Friday morning, I'm not trying to do a lot.
Too much, I know. I think less is more.
Yeah.
Especially with your cheekbones.
And it was like rainy and cold. And I was like, gotta go.
Should we get into it?
Enough with the niceties.
Should we just start with like, our day?
Our raw, real emotions.
Oh, sorry. Coming to you live is your 2026 Podcast of the Year winners, which.
So I was like,
Are we sure?
Paige, we're not gonna win. And she was like, just like, believe in ourselves. And I'm like, I don't believe in myself.
I was like, Hannah, I didn't just like buy a Ferragamo dress to not fucking win.
They started announcing everyone who's nominated and I kept just, they'd be like, the daily. And I'd look at Paige and she'd be like, we're not being the daily. And she's just like, why are you being so negative? I'm like, because I don't want you to get upset when we lose and then like have a little tantrum and then I have to calm you down in the car.
No, I like felt it in my gut. You know, I'm a witch.
You are.
So I felt it in my gut when we walked in there. I was like, oh, we won. And it's so giggly coded that the gigglers were like,
Didn't even know. They go, none of us voted. We don't even know what happened.
None of my business. Didn't come across my desk, none of my business.
But let's rewind to how we got to that moment.
Let's.
Because obviously it wasn't smooth and it wasn't easy.
No.
And I'm talking about that actual day, not the full journey. So.
We have a flight.
And I decide we're going to Austin for the day.
Just for the day.
I knew it was going to be a problem when you texted me asking when you should leave. And I was like, that's, you should never be asking me these things.
Looking for an adult in the room. And I'm like, I'll text Hannah, when should I, when should we leave for the airport?
And we leave very close, we live, we live very close to the airport. Also, I fly six times a week.
Our flight was at seven twenty. We're boarding at six forty.
Yes.
I leave at five thirty.
I, yes.
Hannah's like, I'm gonna leave at five fifty. I'm like, okay, something in my gut is just.
I woke up at five fifty.
I'm FaceTiming her in the line. I'm like, it's not good here. It's not good.
And I'm in the elevator. So I'm like, oh, can't hear you. I'm in the elevator, hang up on her. And you text me and you're like, it's really bad. Which reminds me, my mom, who like has to be at the airport four hours early. And I'm like, you silly mom, you don't have to be there. So I'm like, I'm glad that Paige is being like prepared. One of us has to, but like I live 10 minutes from the airport. I'll see you soon.
Right.
It's before seven AM.
Like, there's not gonna be an issue.
What could happen?
What could possibly happen? So first of all, we, you know, when you get to the place and like, there's so many cars that you can't get out of the Uber? And also I didn't have an Uber driver that was like on my team, like he was very relaxed.
Like it was like, there were openings, he wasn't taking it.
He was like, you're the first flight out, you're fine.
So then I, we're not even parked and I'm like, sir, I need to get out. And he was like, you can't get out here. And I'm like, yeah, again. Like, watch me. So I got out. I was like, five stars, thank you. Um, get to the front. Now, when I tell you the lines were out the door.
I fly a lot. Instead of me just being like, what's going along? I'm like, okay, I'm gonna outsmart this. I'm gonna strategize. But I looked down and I don't have my pre-check on, which is like,
Boarding pass?
That was like some, some god shit. Like, they were like, actually Mercury is in retrograde.
Oh, I know.
No, I felt it.
So I decide, okay, I can wait in line to try to get them to put pre-check on it. So I start with that. Also, I went to the kiosk and the kiosk said, go fuck yourself. You ever try a kiosk and they're like, no? Has a kiosk ever worked for anyone?
Tia, I get that TSA is having a moment. They're having a problem. I'm not even coming for them.
This is not TSA's fault. This is the government's fault.
The people that work though, for the airline, that like, some of the rudest, some of the meanest people I've actually met.
And by the way, when I'm at an airport, it's fight or flight. Like, I'm not thinking logically. I'm, so you're texting me and you're like, I just got through, are you okay? And I'm like, I'm locked in, I'm figuring this out. So the kiosk doesn't work. I'm like, I'm gonna wait, get pre-check. And then the pre-check line is long though, but I'm like, this is my only way.
So I'm waiting in line, it's not moving. So I'm like, fuck, okay. Then I go to the pre-check line and I ask the guy like, can I go here? And he goes, no, you don't have pre-check. And I'm like, But I do.
And he's like, shut up bitch. And I'm like, So then I'm like, okay. I overhear someone saying that there's clear somewhere. And I'm like, where's clear? And they're like, door 752. And I'm like, I'm going. So I'm walking down.
I feel like clear is the biggest scam ever.
Shout out to clear, saved my life though.
But anyway.
But now that everyone has it, the line is almost like, yeah.
But I feel like they've gotten better where now, anyway, long story short, I finally see clear. Now, mind you, Paige is texting me. She goes, how's it going? And I realized Paige, I've been here for 30 minutes. I'm still not even in a line.
You've just been standing in the airport for 25 minutes.
Fighting demons.
What should we do?
I was like, what if I...
That decision is make or break of if you're getting on the plane or not.
If I committed to the wrong line, I'm fucked. So instead, I was just walking in a little circle, fighting with myself.
I get so much hurt.
And you're texting me like, are we doing well?
Any update?
I'm like, I'm actually farther than I was when I first got to the airport.
You're like, I'm actually back in the Uber and I'm going home. Like, I'm not...
Now, mind you, at this point, it's 6:40.
So we're boarding.
We're boarding and I'm still haven't gotten on a line. I'm trying to find where this clear line is. I go, I find the clear line and they're like, this is pre-check. And I'm like, I do a pre-check, but it's anyway, and they're like, we don't care. So I find the non-clear pre-check. It's like 6:50 by now. And I see a giggler and she's like, hey, I just want to say like, I love your pod. And I'm like, hey, Paige is gonna fucking kill me. Like, she's on this flight alone. I can't let her fly alone. Also, like, my flight's boarding. And they're like, when? And I'm like, 15 minutes ago.
And then she's like... And I'm sitting on the plane, asking the flight attendant, like, hey, like, do you think you guys are like, running on time or like, what's your vibe for shutting the door? And she looks at me and she goes, and she's like, what? And I'm like, my friend, she's coming. And she looks me dead in the face and goes, we're not holding the plane for your friend. And I'm like, oh.
See, this is my thing. You're very powerful. So I was like, Paige, work your fucking magic.
You get that plane to stop.
Tell them there's a VIP who wakes, who sleeps too late. But by the way, you're like comfortable.
Mind you, they were late shutting the door and they did wait for my friend. So...
So by the way, I finally get to, I get to the right line. And now I'm like, sorry, I'm boarding and people, but I look around me, I'm like, I feel like everyone's missing their flight. So then I kinda, you can't just skip people. Everyone's missing their flight. But then I asked one person, I was like, "Hey, I'm boarding." They're like, "What time is you boarding?" And I was like, "30 minutes ago."
It was a great day for people on standby.
Yes, yes.
Because so many people, I feel like, missed their flights and then those people got on.
Yeah. And as you know, like, we don't always feel good about men, but there was like a 38-year-old man. And he was like at the front of the clear line and like, I really don't like cutting the line, but this was like, this was, this was your life on the line too. Like, it didn't just affect me.
No, I'm sitting on the plane thinking like, okay, I'm not going to Texas by my goddamn cell.
You literally like, should I get off this plane?
If you're not making it, I'm getting off the plane.
So I'm still, I'm, it's 15 minutes, we've already been boarding. So I go to this guy and I go, "Hey, do you mind if I cut in front of you?" And he goes, "You of course hate when that happens." And I go, I don't know where this came from. I go, "Thank you, my king."
I said, "Thank you, my king." Like, what is, I've become a different person at airport.
Men are better than women. We need you guys.
I go, "Thanks for inventing airports." And then a giggler was like, "Can I get a photo?" I'm like, "Yeah, I'm missing my flight."
And she's like, "That's so Hannah coded." I skip this guy and I'm like, "Great." Still, the line's not moving. Like, TSA is not functioning right now and it's not their fault because people are not getting paid. So when I tell you like, it didn't matter how many people I skipped, no one was moving.
Who cares if you're in the front, if the front's stuck.
Going anywhere.
So then finally I put my stuff in the security, the baggage, whatever. And it gets through and I'm with another guy and, but it's not going through and some guy goes, "Did you leave your laptop in the bag?" And this is for the other guy. And he's like, "No, no one told me." And then I'm like, "Oh, fuck."
You left your laptop in the bag.
Yeah, cuz I'm a TSA pre-princess.
Oh, so you didn't, did your bag have to go back through?
So his bag has to go back through and I know that's gonna happen to mine. And I'm like, I don't have this kind of time.
Like, Paige is literally scared and alone and fighting with the fight.
I was actually on TikTok and like. I was like, sure, I'll have a glass of champagne. Thank you so much.
I'm, I'm D. Oh wait, one of the guys was like, ma'am, you have to stand back a little. You know when they get weird with like where your foot is? And I just look at him and I go, my flight's boarding 30 minutes ago. And he's like, oh damn. Finally my bag comes and I've become like a four-year-old. I'm like, I'm sorry, my laptop is there. I just, I'm gonna miss my flight. And they're like, you dumb bitch, we don't care. We're not getting paid. And I'm like, valid, valid. This is all happening. I'm not telling you these details because I don't want to stress you out further. When I tell you, they put it back in, they took the laptop out. I grabbed my laptop, grabbed my backpack, just holding my laptop bare. Raw dogging my laptop. And we're back at it again, running through the airport.
And we were, and I, I texted you and I was like, and I don't want to make matters worse, but we're the last possible gate. We're like 55.
With this airport run, I put my phone in my pocket because we're 30 minutes past boarding now. Like that's, the door's closed.
We're in Texas.
But I'm giving it like a last ditch. And I go, I don't even want to know that I failed yet. I'm just gonna try. And I'm thinking knees up. I'm like knees up, knees up. I get so tired, I have to stop, catch my breath. That is the most embarrassing when people see you stop and then start again. I'm running, I'm running, I'm running, I'm running. It goes, it felt like I was running for two hours.
Even when I was walking there, I stopped. I was like, this is a far gate. This is long.
Now we're 35 minutes past boarding, you guys. Like I'm not making this flight. I'm texting Grace and she's like, there's no other flights to Austin. And I'm like, damn, I bought this like crazy dress. I'm not gonna be able to wear it. Paige is gonna be there all scared alone.
No, I would have gotten, I would have landed in Austin and gotten on another flight back home. Like I wasn't doing that without you.
But you also were like, should I get off this plane? And it gave a really romantic rom-com moment. Like, should I get off the plane? And just be with you?
And then Grace was also like, my flight's delayed. And I was like, I'm not being the representative.
That would happen to you.
By myself.
You're like, I'm not accepting Podcast of the Year award alone.
Then.
Then I get to the gate, everything's like closed. And I'm like, can I get on? And the guy's like, yes. So in that moment, I'm like, this, this was out of my power. Like, that was, that was Jesus Christ. Like, that was God. I think because I accepted my fate, I was like, I've missed my flight, that the universe was like, now we'll give it to you because you're not fighting us. And sorry about the government lockdown.
When you did get on, the flight attendant looked at me and was like, is that your friend? I was like, never seen her before. The girl sweating and panting? Nope.
Also, by the way, I have, I'm not gonna brag, I'm gonna brag, I'm a Diamond Medallion.
Okay. Give me some, I'm a Diamond Medallion. Like, when they go, thank you for being a Diamond Medallion, like.
Put some respect on my name.
Wherever I go, I say, say, thank you for being a Diamond Medallion. They say it, and I say, thank you. So I get upgrades a lot. And I, I had a, I was sitting in 2A.
I get there and they're like, oof, we have a problem. And immediately, I'm like, I'm not gonna make the flight. And they go, we gave your seat to someone else. And I was like, at this point, I don't give a fuck. Put me in the back. And he's like, you are in the back. You're in.
See, like, in that situation, it feels like they should have switched you guys.
Yeah, I'm thinking it's because I wasn't even past security, maybe, when they needed. I don't know. And I'm just like, as long as I get on the flight.
They're dealing with a lot right now.
They're dealing with a lot. So I walk in, and yeah, you're sitting there. And you don't even make eye contact with me. You're like, I can't with you.
Well, because I knew in the morning, I was like, no, I think we should leave a little bit earlier.
When I tell you I'm so sorry, and you're right.
Thank you. Oh, my gosh. Thank you.
You're right. Like, the whole time, you were right.
My favorite part of that whole day, though, was then we landed in Austin. We had to immediately go because we were late leaving. We had to immediately go to a meeting. Airport closed, didn't have time to change. We've got luggage. We're starving. We're like
Also
It's freezing.
I was seat twenty, next to the two biggest men. And the guy was actually sitting in my seat, the, um, because I got the window seat and there was an empty seat in the middle and the other guy was in the aisle. So I was like, sorry, bro, you gotta move. I'm sitting in the window seat. I shouldn't even fucking be here right now.
Yeah. And did he give it to you?
He gave it to me, but like begrudgingly. And then he's also wearing a leather jacket. So like, it makes it worse that your leather jacket, your big shoulder leather jacket is like in my neck. And then of course he falls asleep.
On your shoulder.
Snoring. But also in that moment, I said, this is what I deserve.
For sleeping in and being a little bitch is what I deserve. So then me and him are cuddling.
I was like, get in here. At one point I leaned forward and he just like fell behind me. And I was like, I just, me and, he was on my lap. I was sitting on his lap and we had a fun kiki.
His name was Andre. Um, but we
We land, we go to our meeting.
Straight from
And like
Serious meeting.
Like people, like, people were contacting us prior to this meeting being like, hey, do you want to like go over anything? Should we prep? And we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like we got it.
There were executives there.
We're sitting there and we're like, we're gonna order food because we're starving. And mind you, it's like a, it's like eleven thirty. It's like brunch time.
And brunch is a whole different kind of order. You don't just order a sandwich like.
I actually got a baguette for the table.
And no one was eating.
No one else was eating but me and you.
But it was for us. I mean, they had jam on the side. Like I'm not just seeing baguette and jam on a menu and saying, no, thank you. Like that's rude.
And I ordered, I said, I want an omelet. I want a water. I want iced latte with vanilla and oat milk. And I want orange juice.
And a side of sausage. Now the waiter.
Sometimes waiters do this thing where they're like, I've been a waiter for so long. You tell me your order. I'm memorizing it.
Or they go. Let's see what I remember.
I'm like, I don't want to play that game.
Whenever they say, I'm like, I didn't sign up to test your memory.
I don't want to play Russian roulette.
Yeah, I'm just trying to order breakfast.
The guy had, didn't write it down and I looked at him, I said, this is gonna be in order.
And he was like, he was, he's like, okay, let me know if I get anything wrong. I'm like, no, that's not my job.
So Hannah gets the omelet, I get the breakfast sandwich. They're bringing over our food. I spot the waiter bringing Hannah's over and in my head, I'm like, that's not what she ordered. But we're in the middle of this meeting and she.
Okay, there's five executives talking like serious stuff about like the art of podcasting. As they put our food down, the guy brought bread with like tons of salad. You know, I didn't order that with just one hard boiled egg with like curry on it. So it comes down and immediately this guy's talk, the executive's talking to me. I, I'm seeing colors. Like, I don't know what's going on.
No, you're furious. I'm like picking up my breakfast sandwich so daintily. I'm taking a bite and looking over at Hannah. She's aghast.
Now, gigglers, in that moment, would you tell the executive to stop talking? So in front of everyone, you could say, this isn't what I ordered. I'm not a fucking monster. Also, I'm lucky to be there. I barely made it that morning. So I decided to suck it up and I'm slowly eating these like gross leaves of fucking like arugula.
And then?
For brunch. Who wants arugula for brunch? And the guy's like, oh, that looks really good.
Yeah. Everyone was like, oh my God, I'm gonna get that next time. And in my head, I'm like, she fucking hates it. Then, then I'm done eating. Like, I kind of like push my plate forward a little, like, okay, like, I'm finished with this. We're still talking in the meeting. Hannah's sitting like directly next to me, to my left.
Serious meeting, by the way.
I just feel her elbow.
I feel her elbow like brush up against me and I like look over at her in the corner of my eye, because this man is speaking.
She was eyes locked.
And I look over in the corner of my eyes. She looks at me and she, then she looks at my breakfast. She looks at my breakfast sandwich and I know she's asking me if she can eat the rest of it. And so I don't say anything and I just move my.
Like you touched the plate slightly.
And I push it over to her and then she starts eating it and the executive goes, oh, um, so you guys are close.
He goes, did you just ask her to eat her sandwich and then start eating it? And I was like, yeah.
But with no words.
No words. And then I swear to God, he goes, you guys have really good podcast chemistry. And I was like, and that's just another reason Geek Me Squad is working. Also, by the way, I was talking throughout this whole thing. I was like, yeah, and then the logistics.
But we had a full conversation. You were like, the waiter didn't write it down. I'm pissed. I knew he was gonna do this. He fucked up my order. I, we had that full conversation while we were sitting there.
Also, like, if you invite us to a breakfast meeting, we're getting full girl brunch.
Yeah, and nobody else ate.
No one else ate and they were just watching me like have a fight with the food. He didn't have to call us out. That was funny, though.
Also, we finish each other's sandwiches.
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So then we go to the hotel. We get ready. We do glam. We take pictures. We go to the awards.
And by the way, I'm like, I'm tired. Even though I slept late, I still only got four hours of sleep. You know, I hate glam. And I tell you, I was like, look, I'm like, not really in a social mood. Like, let's just, we can do this.
You literally said to both of our assistants, Grace and Josephine, just like, the perfect people. Hannah goes, hey, you guys sit on either side of me so that I don't really have to socialize a lot tonight. And I'm like, in my head, I'm like, mhm.
I'm like, I'm getting in my head, like, I'm nervous. I don't have it in me. I'm really tired. I can't do this.
We get there. Hannah is now the mayor of the event. Okay? She's going over to people's tables. She's checking on them. She's asking if they need anything. She's taking selfies with everyone. She's like, I'm sitting at the chairs, just being like, she's gonna walk over and say, why did you guys let me do this? And you literally, you walk over and you're like, guys, I'm socializing so much. Then the awards start, okay? The awards start, we present an award to the basement yard, they win, which we love them. Love their wives too. It's our turn, like our is the last award. We win, amazing. We have a flight to catch after, okay? We have to leave immediately and go to the airport.
I'm looking around. I'm like, where the fuck is Hannah? She's in the middle of like a mosh pit. Like she's honestly, she's like turning, she's talking to so many people. You're like turning, yep, one second, let me just finish over here. I've now put myself just behind a curtain, just a random curtain that I've found. I'm like, I'm just gonna stand behind here. I text Grace and I'm like, we have to go.
Grace comes up to me and is like, Paige is really upset.
And I'm like, Paige is so over me in this moment.
No, because you say one thing, you do another.
Well, what I realized is I, when I can only be 150 or nothing.
And I do get social anxiety where I'm like, I don't want to have to turn it on. Like I don't want to have to be that girl.
But once it's on, it's on.
Once it's on, I can't, I can't scale back on her. And look, Eliza Schlesinger was there and I was catching up with her. We saw the basement yard. We were just like meeting random people in the podcast space. And next thing you know, I'm like, I love socializing. This is where I shine. Like, but, okay.
Grace like found me in the corner. I'm just like covering my face with a napkin. I'm like, we have to go.
You were like, I committed to the plan. I didn't talk to anyone. So then, when we first were announcing the first award.
Mm hmm.
By the way, we're standing backstage and it was a, it gave you like a little moment of like when we were on tour. And you were like, I'm a little bit nervous to go on stage. And I just look at you and I go, by the way, I'm not reading the teleprompter.
She turns to me and she goes, hey, um, you know that like the lines that I wrote and like gave to the guy to put in the teleprompter? Yeah, I actually just decided I don't like any of it. I'm like, no, no, read the teleprompter. She's like, yeah, I'm not gonna.
If I go off script, just go with it. And you're like, can you have, you're like, just say the lines.
Not the time to go off script.
I'm feeling a creative urge just to like express myself in a different way.
So we're out there, off script, completely off script.
No, but before we go out there.
Oh, yeah. The stage manager, he goes, okay, um, you guys are gonna walk out there. Paige, you're on the left. Hannah, you're on the right. Hannah goes, uh, quick question. Is that changeable? Can I go on the right? And he goes, and he's like looking at his papers and he's like, it says specifically that you must be on the right and Paige must be on the left. And you're like, okay, I'm gonna need to talk to your boss real quick.
I said, who are you working for? Cause that's crazy that you're like, the only thing you have to do is Hannah needs to stand on her monster side. And the guy starts laughing and I go, my enemy's out to get me. Who's your boss? Let me talk to them. And he's dying laughing and he thinks it's funny. And I'm like, when does this matter where we stand?
And you know, the only thing I care about is not wearing my hair in a ponytail.
And not standing on the right side.
You're extremely passionate about not wearing your hair in a ponytail.
Anything else I'm very laid back about.
Totally.
Arguably very chill.
Except I don't like reading teleprompters.
Right. Which see, I love a teleprompter.
Yes. Cause you like organization, preparation.
Yes. I'm like, there it is. I don't have to think about it.
Showing that you can read.
Yes. It is always a plus.
It is a plus. And you're like, see all my haters, including me. So the guy's like laughing and I'm like, it's not funny. Like, I really, like, sure, I really don't wanna stand on the right side.
Being a comedian right now? Like, I'm, I'm pissed.
I literally looked at him like, what would happen if I just like went on the left side? And he's like laughing. I'm like, I'm not joking.
I think it was the lower thirds when you were streaming it.
But I also, yeah, so we go out. But yeah, I was going rogue out there and I blacked out. I don't know what I said.
And I do have to say, they posted our speech and it was really, really fun and cute, but I want to announce, I don't think anyone called it out, but there's a moment where like they gave me the award and I went to give it to you when you were speaking.
And then I pulled it back.
And afterwards you're like, what was that? It was really heavy. And as I was giving it to you, I was like, she's gonna like,
You literally faked me out on stage. I was like,
I'm like, do you want to make up? Actually, this is my award. No, but it looked like I literally was like. Faking me. High five.
Too slow, couldn't take it. But it was like very heavy. Yeah. And I was like, as the man won, I was like, I'll hold it while you can like speak. When we were done presenting, we were like going back out to sit for the rest of the awards. And we saw both of our assistants sitting on the couch and we just were like, how cute are they? How adorable. Just so sweet. Shout out Grace and Josephine for literally being the heart and soul. Best time. Then we all flew home together and we just had like the best time yapping. I also think it is crazy. There are like some podcasts that have like huge productions, which. Yeah. People are going on stage with like seven people behind them. Everyone was thinking, a lot of people. I was like, wait, who are these people? What did they do?
But I just have to say, our team is literally me, you. Mm hmm. And Grace. Yeah, her giggly squad. Grace hasn't slept in years, but we spoil her, I promise. And I forced her to get a cat. We got our quesadillas on our way home. But shout out to like such a small operation. I think if you try to make your operation too big sometimes, not to talk business, but like you can lose quality control. Yeah. And. Too many cooks in the kitchen. Too many cooks in the kitchen and also people who might not like hair. Giggly is a well-oiled machine. It's a well-oiled, small, simple machine. Mm hmm. But we have to say, it's all the gigglers. Yeah. Like the, the gigglers make this podcast. All of you won this award. Yeah.
Like this is for you guys being the fucking funniest, smartest, hottest, most beautiful girls and gays in the world. Hannah actually said that about you guys in the meeting. Oh, I did? Well, I, I like. You're like, you're not gonna believe it, but like. They're all beautiful. The gigglers have jobs. No. You're like, they have professions. Which I have to make a quick edit. Obviously I messed up something last week again. Hmm. About the Smithsonian. Also, people have to talk about when you have nubby fingers, it really is harder to text. And also,
Justice.
Do you know when you flush a bathroom and they have those fancy ones that are like a circle? You press down the circle?
When you have long nails?
Yeah, I do it with my knuckle.
But like, that's not good for women.
No, it's not made for women.
It's not. Oh, yeah. So she said, died over the shout out. I work at the African American history Smithsonian.
I work at the African American History Smithsonian. They want to give us a tour if we ever go to DC. They have exhibits on sports and fashion that can be catered to our respective interests. And that's
That is so sweet.
Being a giggler. They're all like genius women.
They really are. We didn't even know what a Smithsonian was.
I thought that was like a man. And maybe it is a man.
How are you?
Good. How are you? Wait, I need to talk about my Lemmy day.
It was my favorite day of my entire life. Like, it was truly the best day of my whole life.
Knowing you and like stuff you used to talk about before these things happened to you makes it more magical. Like, you love the Kardashians.
I love them.
It's always on in your apartment.
I've never been a hater of them. You, there is nothing they could do to make me hate them. I'm obsessed with every single one of them. So when we first got an email that Lemmy wanted to collab with us, we were actually sitting in a Daphne office, like around the table. And one of the, our Daphne people was like, okay, this is gonna sound crazy, but like Lemmy wants to collab. And I, like, lost my mind. And they were like, we didn't know, like, if you were gonna wanna do it. And I was like, gonna wanna do it? Are you kidding?
When he texted me, it was like the most, like, starstruck I've been.
They were like, it's sleep week. She thought it would be cute if we, like, collabed on Lemmy's sleep. Like, I was like, no.
Perfect.
The marketing rights itself. Also, just like, thank God I created a brand that's like in the bed. Because anytime I go somewhere, they're like, okay, and the first shot is you in the bed? I'm like, perfect. Thank you.
But also, it wasn't just you like holding a Lemmy gummy. It was you spending a day with Courtney.
So we pull up, okay. First, I obviously get glam. I like taking pictures, like look my outfit. We pull, we drive to Calabasas. We pull up. When you pull up, it wasn't what I was expecting it to look like on the outside. Like, it looks like a very, like, just professional, um, I don't know, like, complex.
Have you ever been to Calabasas?
No, never been to Calabasas.
I didn't know it was a real thing. I thought it was just part of the, this, the TV show.
It's very sweet. It's very cute. It's, it's far, though.
But like, they must live near it?
They live near it.
Convenient.
So we get there, we're in the parking lot, we're like about to walk in, and we walk in. Two, like, girls sitting at the front desk, and they're like, "Hey, welcome to Kim's studio." And I'm like, "Oh my god."
You're like, "Kim who?"
So you, there's like a little computer in the front, and it's like you click.
You go, "It's a fake computer."
Hannah, it felt like Barbie life-size. I was like, "This is not real. There's no way this can be real." So it's a little computer, and you click like Kim's office or, or Kim's studio. And so we click like Kim's studio, you're immediately, you're signing an NDA. On top of the NDA that you've already signed to even like agree to get the address.
There's any NDA about your NDA.
Yeah, they're like-
Which you're breaking right now.
Am I? No. No, you can say you signed an NDA.
Oh, it's up to your lawyers.
So you walk in, it's stunning, beautiful. Like, everything is exactly what you think it's going to be. And so then we like keep walking back, and then we like enter into like the glam room. It's just-
Which of course they have.
It's just rows of glam, it's my dream.
There's just makeup artists in every room, like, giving touch-ups to you?
It's a rows of glam chairs with like mirrors, lights.
Perfect lighting.
And then on the other side, it's just like a massive couch that looks like a bed. And then it's just like lines of Daphne clothes, and then like inside the studio is like the bed and everything.
You know what I have to say that you have to be proud of the Kardashians? That is a business run by woman, women.
Oh, yeah.
Like, every single decision is made by a woman. It's not women written by men. And like, these are powerhouses making those decisions.
There was like random people in different parts, like, working on different stuff that you could like tell. There's a lot of people there.
Well, they're running 4,000 businesses.
And not every of their businesses even in that. One building, I don't think. So then one of Courtney's like people come over and they're like, "Okay, Courtney's pulling up. Like, we'll start in a little." And so I'm like, "Okay, let me pee, like, before we really start." And mind you, they wrapped our phones, so like, we couldn't take any pictures. So we were like, very present in the moment, because we could only look at each other. Like, we had nowhere to look.
And you go, "Hi, who are you guys?"
I go, "Nice to meet you, Paige. So nice to meet you." And there's one moment-
I never knew you had blue eyes.
There's one moment, like, I go in the bathroom, and I, like, had a, not a panic attack, but I was like, "Oh, my God." Like, I'm at the Kardashians' office. I'm about to shoot with Courtney.
And you've never met her before?
I never met her before. For anyone who says that Courtney doesn't work, she is one of the most efficient workers I've ever met in my life. She showed up, she was ready. We shot-
Professional.
Professional, shot for like, an hour, maybe an hour and a half, got everything. Her team,
the nicest people ever. Like, it was truly so much more down-to-earth and normal than I was expecting. Like, we were just kiki-ing.
One thing I have to say about the Kardashians is they have longevity, and you don't have longevity unless you're, like, good to work with and work efficiently.
No, there was a moment where they were like, "Okay, heads closer together." And like, I'm like, in Courtney's bosom, you know, like, I'm like-
You're in bed with her!
No, like, I'm literally laying on her, and I turn to her and I go-
You're second base.
You have a really relaxing presence. And she was like, "Thank you so much."
She goes, "Thanks, I'm sleeping."
Like, she, she felt very, like, maternal. Like, I was just like-
She is.
Yeah, I was just like, "Wait, you're very, like, calm."
Was there anything about her that was different than what you thought it would be?
Not at all. She, like, went into, like, some long-winded story that, like, I don't even remember now, but I'm like, "I'll listen to you for hours."
I think she, like, Khloe is by far, like, the comedian-
But Courtney makes me laugh.
No, she's, she's unintentionally really funny.
Because she's so dry and so honest. She does remind me of you in a way.
Where, like, she'll just say it and own it.
Yeah, like, she'll just be like, "Gross." And I, I love it. I'm just like obsessed with her.
That is so cool. And it just shows, live your dreams. Manifestation is real.
No, I was on such a high after that. Then like my whole team, we all went to the Beverly Hills Hotel. I even got like an alcoholic drink. I was on such a high. Yeah, I had a glass of wine. No, it was so fun. And that was before I did SAG. So I was out there and we shot Lemmy.
When it comes to meeting like people you admire, there's one thing to like get a selfie with them, but to actually spend quality time with them and see how their brain works and like be like a-
She was just so nice, like, and she didn't have to be as overly nice to me as she was. She could have just been like, yeah, we're doing this thing. It's like for my brand, like let's get it done. Like great to meet you, see ya. But she was very like warm and welcoming.
And that means the world.
It really does.
It really does. So everyone remember to be kind. Honestly, I've had the worst day and like if a random person like says they like my poncho, like, like my day's turned around.
Go up to a random person and say you like their poncho.
I'm like, I believe in humanity again.
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Can I say something crazy and controversial?
Please.
It's actually not, but like, whatever.
I don't think I'll ever get Botox ever again for the rest of my life. Like, I'm never get, I don't think I will ever inject my fate. I don't think I'll ever do any anti-aging, like, at a doctor ever again.
Us Weekly's freaking out right now. They're like, send it to the press.
Here's what I'll say. I'm so thankful, I'm so thankful that I have the mom that I have that was like, if you ever touch your face, I'll fucking kill you.
Well, you were kind of the test rat for us.
I was like, yeah, go get Botox, tell me how it goes.
And I waited a couple.
Fuck up. Set me the fuck up.
Well, you went, you went for it.
Then I went overboard.
Okay, tell me where you made the mistake.
So when I first got, so I was like, I'm 33.
You're perfect. You've never made a mistake.
Totally. I was like, I'm 33. I really want to try it. So I'm happy that I waited until I was 33 years old.
Also, your feed is just full of women being like, and I got Botox here, and I got Botox here, and this is how I look with Botox. And they're just like, looking stunning and whatever.
I just don't think it's worth it. Like, I think there are so many pros, but I think there are so many cons. Like, I think it made me uglier, honestly. Like, ultimately, I think my experience with it is, I think it was, made my face look worse than it did better. And I think, not like for who injected me, none of that. I just think for my own face, I didn't like, I don't like it at all.
So first, you got your forehead. And your initial reaction was, I love it, I'm obsessed with it.
I got my forehead, and then I got like, right here.
And why?
And I got my chin.
And you got your chin.
Then I went back, three months later, got like, a little bit more in my forehead, a little bit more in my chin, which messed up my mouth for the whole time. Like, since I've had, which I think that was like, in January, now we're almost in March. And I just, I think it just puts such a bad taste in my mouth, because it's like, you go to get something, and then you hate, you have more problems than to get problems.
To be more insecure about your face.
A hundred percent. And so like, I feel like it'll be almost pretty much dissolved by like, I would say by the summer, I'll probably be like, back to my normal face. And I don't think anyone could ever convince me to go back and get Botox. And the only reason I want to say that is because I know that so many girls.
Might have gotten it when you got it.
Might have gotten it because they're like, because I did it. Like, okay, like, maybe it's time, because we're all like, pretty much all the same age.
But I know there are so many girls that listen to us, who are in college, and sometimes even a little bit younger. I don't think they should get it.
That is so powerful of you to say, and I appreciate it. As someone who hasn't gotten Botox yet, because I want to see what your experience is gonna be.
Perfect. What a friend.
Yes, you might see lines on your face, which I personally love my lines because one, it gets me more respect in the boardroom. When I'm stuffing my face with a croissant sandwich that I stole from you and telling them about
strategy, they can tell I've seen some shit.
I feel like I've also kind of hit an age where I'm like, well, one, I feel like I'm like hotter than I was when I was like 25.
So much hotter.
But two, I also feel like I've hit an age where I don't want to look like a young girl in their twenties. Because I'm like, wait, do you know how awful girls in their twenties are treated? Like, I don't want to look like I'm that young because I've been through too much to get
Disrespected. Like, it's horrible. But there is also a thing, aging does not mean uglier.
Let's normalize that. Aging is growth, is knowledge, is also, like, Grace literally said to us the other day, we're in the elevator, and she was like, I can't wait to be your age. And we were like, why? And she was like, because you guys are so pretty.
Oh, my god.
She said that to us. You weren't listening to her.
No, I don't think.
But like, we're inspiring her as in like, I mean, I've lost my baby fat. I also know my face better. I've found the right hair color. Like, I'm evolving.
You really have found the right hair color.
I also come from a line of women who are fucking gorgeous in every decade. Like, I look at my mom in her 30s, her 40s, her 50s, and it's just like epic every single one. But
Also, like, when I see a man on the street who has, like, gray hair or, like, salt and pepper beard or something, I'm like, ooh, hot.
Stick it to me.
Yeah, like, that guy's, like, older and hot.
And knows things.
And not that I'm saying, like, I'm not gonna, I would never dye my, like, I would never have gray hair. That's one thing that I wouldn't do.
It can be chic.
Like, it can be chic, but like, I will dye my hair when I get to that point. But
You're gonna go blonde?
No, like, I'll be a brunette. But I just don't think I will, like, okay, anti-aging, like, eye cream, great. But I don't think I'll ever go
But again, I would argue
to a plastic surgeon and get something anti-aging until I'm, like, in my 50s.
I would argue that a lot of these products, though, like, I'm so sick of girls putting on products on TikTok and being like, look how glossy my skin looks. I'm like, yeah, you just put something shiny on it.
Yeah, that's an oil bit.
That's an oil, like people, like, look how shiny my skin is. I'm like, cause you put an oil on it. It didn't actually change. But and even like the under eye stuff, it's so expensive. And I'm like, is it that different than like the other stuff?
Now, when I got Botox, do I think it was phenomenal for my crow's feet? Totally. But I think the cons outweighed that, like, one benefit.
And not to talk shit, but sometimes when people have too much Botox and they smile and they don't have crow's feet, it looks like a horror movie smile where they're like.
Yeah, yes.
So I just don't think I'll ever do it again. And but I'm happy, I actually am happy that I was the guinea pig for this, because I do feel like a lot of gigglers were like, I had like a lot of women, even in my real life, be like, wait, I think I'm gonna get it now. Like, where'd you go? Or like, how did you like it? And so I'm just like.
So you wouldn't even get a little forehead?
Honestly, I don't think so. I don't know.
Okay, maybe like next fall, if I'm like, oh, maybe I'll just get like a little in my forehead. Okay. But I don't think I'll ever do it the way I did it.
I also think you have a particular job where you're speaking, you're a comedian.
No, it has been so fucking hard to talk.
When you're hosting with with too much Botox, it's difficult.
The amount of things I've been I've Googled for the past three months, like, I actually think it almost made me feel like it looked like I it didn't look like I got lip filler, because my lips didn't like get bigger. But it almost made me feel like the shape of my lip changed for some reason.
And I hated it. I was like, I have amazing lips and I have an amazing mouth. Like, I don't know.
Speaking of the Kardashians, there was a time where Kim did something to her chin where like the her lips looked like lower than they were, and she like fixed it.
The only thing I could think about was, wow, how many girls get suckered into getting like filler? And then that doesn't go away. I was so thankful. Like, I kept just reminding myself, like, okay, it's Botox. So like, it's gonna go away. You're not gonna be like this forever. And thank fucking God. So if you're contemplating filler or Botox. Don't do it.
I'm obsessed with you. My biggest piece of advice too is stop looking in the mirror so much, girls.
No, like people are looking in the mirror trying to like find issues.
Sorry, that's my hobby.
No, but like, wait, the other night Hannah was at my apartment. I was like, sorry, I think I'm gonna go do my hobby. And Grace was like, you're gonna read? And I was like, I'm gonna shower, do a face mask, do my skincare. You would do skincare all day if you, if you could.
Where I'm like the person like who's on the couch at night and I'm like, oh.
No Hannah, I need a full hour before I get into bed.
We live such different lives.
I have things to do. I have to red light. I have to, I have to tune fork.
And Kitty loves it.
Kitty loves tuning forks. She loves them.
I also have to say though, when you're always looking in the mirror and you're always picking yourself apart, like you're, you're not seeing, like it is dysmorphia at some point. And at one point, let's say you're like, oh, I hate these lines on my face in whatever way.
You think I fully have body dysmorphia?
You do have body dysmorphia. And I try my best and I say that you're beautiful and you're like, you're my best friend. Of course you say that. Shut up.
I'm like, contractually, you have to say that in Podstone.
You're like, I'm surrounded by yes people.
No, that's when I call my mom. Whenever I feel like I'm surrounded by yes people, I just call my mom. I'm like, what do you think? She's like, yeah, your mouth's fucked up.
Yeah, you look fucked up.
But there's a moment where like, okay, let's say I have some lines on my face.
But then in your situation, I get Botox. Now I hate myself in a different way that feels unfamiliar to me and gives you anxiety.
And you get even more mad because you're like, this isn't even me. I wasn't born with this. Yeah, this isn't my mess up.
This is an outer thing. And then you feel like you're not even your true self. I'd rather be my true self and ugly.
Than someone else making me ugly.
No, that's what it is. I'm like, I'd rather hate myself the way I was made than hate myself for what I did.
Hate yourself authentically.
Let me hate myself in peace.
And some girls, you put so much on, I don't even see their soul anymore. It's blocked by filler.
That's why I'm just, I feel like I wanted to say this because I know there's so many girls that get filler. And that's so not repairable, the way like Botox is. And so I didn't even want, not that I ever thought about getting filler because it truly does scare me, but.
There's also a like idea of. When you do filler, like you're trying to look how you used to be, which is what we were saying. We're like, what if you discover what you're gonna look like? Why are we always trying to be like what we were?
And honestly, I'm actually low key not that worried about aging. Like, I've never really been that nervous about aging because like, we don't drink. Like, we really don't. Like, we are not people that like have a drink every single-
I had like three quesadillas the other night. I woke up with a hangover. Like, that was crazy.
No, we were hungover from the Mexican food.
Well, I also was hungover from socializing so much, being the belle of the ball, which is exhausting.
But I never really think about aging like that because I know that I have a drink maybe like once a month.
Yeah. Well, this, this episode has been so informative and I really love that you said that. Like, that was, you were like, I tried it with a whole, open heart.
And this is my feedback.
And this is my, this is my journey.
And if you want Paige to try anything else, she will. Just DM her.
Okay, I will. I do think I am gonna go get my grown needling. But anyway, I digress.
She'll keep you posted. Also, before we wrap up, I want to let you guys know that my Buffalo Wild Wings commercial is out.
Now, this is my first ever TV commercial. Um, and it's so funny because I feel like it's so-
Glamorous.
Paige versus Hannah coded. Like Paige is like-
If I could make commercials all year, or for the rest of my life, I would.
But you're like, I have a trusime, I'm doing Lemmy, I'm doing, you know, I'm on a spaceship.
We love branding at Paige's Obra headquarters.
But then I later got a call and I'm like, I'm obsessed with B-Dubs. I also Hank, I shot with Beck Bennett from SNL, who does the voice of Hank, and we riffed the whole time. It was so much fun. I'll tell you guys more about it next episode. Check it out. I just posted. Um, but shout out to B-Dubs and shout out to Botox.
We'll see you next week.
And we love you guys so much. Bye.
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