Giggling about the manosphere, body counts, and cyber trucks

Hannah is breaking down the manosphere and Paige is wearing a new rain jacket! Had the best girls lunch during our episode today thanks to Buffalo Wild Wings Pick 6 for $19.99 @bwwings #BWWPartner

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 0:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so many people have my location.

• 0:08Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone, "I'm home."

• 0:12Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend like doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 0:17Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 0:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 0:34Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So, once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 0:42Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time, and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 0:46Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 0:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 0:51Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 1:04Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 1:11Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 1:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly, women deserve.

• 1:16Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 1:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a t-shirt, for real.

• 1:22Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 1:31Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 1:34Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 1:34Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 1:37Hannah Berner?

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• 1:49Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 1:51Hannah Berner?

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• 2:36Hannah Berner?

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• 2:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, remember when I told you how excited I was about Lululemon dropping their fall collection on September 8? Well, the collection is finally here and I just got my hands on a few pieces. And let's just say, these will be in my rotation on repeat. I got the Groove Yoga Bra and the High Rise Matching Short. They're so buttery soft. They have laser cut pocket openings for optional and removable cups, which I love that because sometimes I don't want to have a bra insert when I'm working out, but sometimes I do. Performance never compromises style at Lululemon. I love their vintage-inspired styles, and everything comes in such an assortment of colors. So if you don't want to stick to black, which is my traditional go-to, you can explore other colors. Like, I love a burgundy workout set. New styles from Lululemon's fall collection are here.

• 3:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Popular colors go fast, so be on the lookout for those drops. And if something doesn't work out for you, free returns always. That's lululemon.com, lululemon.com.

• 3:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Sup, gigglers?

• 3:38Speaker 02

  Gary, fix your Wi-Fi.

• 3:40Speaker 03

  Manifest that shit.

• 3:42Speaker 02

  We can't be managed.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:50Hannah Berner?

  What's up, my galloping gigglers? We're all trying to get 10K steps, but we just found out you only need 7K to be healthy.

• 3:56Paige DeSorbo?

  But I still try and do 10.

• 3:58Hannah Berner?

  No one has time. You know how fast you have to walk to do 10K every day?

• 4:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you want to know? It's actually not as hard as you think, but I need to always be holding my phone because that's how I get my steps tracked, which I know everyone's going to be like, okay, well, that's why they invented an Oura ring. I can't. That's against my religion.

• 4:15Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, that's not your vibe. Also, I don't think they make them small enough for your fingers.

• 4:19Paige DeSorbo?

  They probably don't.

• 4:20Hannah Berner?

  Also, Oura Ring kept telling me I was tired, so I kept using it as an excuse to cancel everything.

• 4:23Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm in one of those moods where like, every couple of months, I'll get in a mood where I'm like, actually, you can't tell me what to do and I'm not going. Canceled. And they're like, contractually? And I'm like, call my lawyer. I'm not going.

• 4:37Hannah Berner?

  That's actually when me and you are at our most powerful, when we both enable each other to cancel everything. I feel like Chapel Rowan on tour.

• 4:48Hannah Berner?

  I feel like a Gen Z pop star who's been told by her label she has to tour for three years, and she goes, how about no?

• 4:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank you so much for bringing up Chapel Rowan.

• 4:56Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yeah. Chapel Rowan has been in the news.

• 4:57Paige DeSorbo?

  She's been wild out in the streets. And I, you want to know what? I have two different minds.

• 5:04Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 5:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Of thinking. In one sense, I'm like, yes, the things that people have done to celebrities in the past has caused them.

• 5:13Hannah Berner?

  Irreparable harm.

• 5:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Irreparable harm. Death.

• 5:15Hannah Berner?

  Irreparable.

• 5:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like literally. But there's also a part of like my millennial makeup where I'm like, suck it up.

• 5:24Hannah Berner?

  And look, it's not normal to be famous, like to process fame. However, if you want to avoid paparazzi and avoid stuff, like you don't have to go to fashion shows.

• 5:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 5:35Hannah Berner?

  But she probably is like, I want to go to the fashion show. But then, but then people take videos making her look like she doesn't want to be at the fashion show.

• 5:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 5:42Hannah Berner?

  I think she's navigating fame as a young person. And it's not perfect. And it's chaos. But at the end of the day, when you have money, when you, when you're in her position, no one feels bad for you.

• 5:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Also. Like Justin Bieber has like yelled at paparazzi or like and we're and we're like

• 6:00Hannah Berner?

  Everyone's like, go off, King.

• 6:01Paige DeSorbo?

  We're like, let's make it into a meme. We're obsessed. But Chapel Rose does it and we're like,

• 6:07Hannah Berner?

  She's evil.

• 6:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Get this angry redhead off our screens. Yeah, so people treat her.

• 6:11Hannah Berner?

  I just think she's navigating fame and it's difficult and hard.

• 6:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, I'm in a raincoat today. So like every movement I make, I'm just like,

• 6:18Hannah Berner?

  It's squeaky.

• 6:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, I'm in a raincoat.

• 6:21Hannah Berner?

  I have to say, you love rain.

• 6:23Paige DeSorbo?

  I love when it rains.

• 6:26Hannah Berner?

  Cause you think you're like Barbie. I mean, you are an Italian Barbie. So you're like, it's raincoat day.

• 6:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, in my head, it's either God has given everyone collectively a day off.

• 6:37Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 6:37Paige DeSorbo?

  And he's like, it's raining. You don't have to go outside. Or it's like, you could bring out your raincoat that you haven't been able to wear and I've had for a couple of months. And so I broke out my raincoat. It has a belt.

• 6:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Hello, it has a belt.

• 6:51Hannah Berner?

  When you saw it was raining, did you almost text me to cancel? Did it cross your mind?

• 6:56Paige DeSorbo?

  No, because I had my raincoat. If I didn't, when I saw it was raining, if my first thought wasn't your raincoat, I would have texted you and said, what if we did virtual today? It's crazy out there.

• 7:07Hannah Berner?

  I'm dressed like a 50s housewife. When it rains, I don't acknowledge it.

• 7:11Paige DeSorbo?

  You came walking toward me and I was like, someone in Connecticut.

• 7:14Hannah Berner?

  I'm wearing a kitten heel.

• 7:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Is missing their clothes.

• 7:16Hannah Berner?

  A light blue shirt. Of course, when I called my Uber, it's like the one time he doesn't know where to find me. So I had to walk in the rain to get him. And it was like a whole thing, but I

• 7:26Paige DeSorbo?

  What's your little scarf, honey?

• 7:28Hannah Berner?

  So it's attached to the T-shirt. If you're watching on YouTube, um, I have a accessory. It kind of looks like a labia, but in like the best way.

• 7:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:38Hannah Berner?

  And you could like swing it around.

• 7:39Paige DeSorbo?

  It's kind of giving nautical.

• 7:41Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it's, we're definitely on different wavelengths, which as we are,

• 7:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally fine.

• 7:45Hannah Berner?

  As we are. We're recording this before the Oscars.

• 7:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:49Hannah Berner?

  And we have our own little podcast award show on Monday.

• 7:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 7:53Hannah Berner?

  I've picked out a risky dress. You don't have a dress. How are you feeling?

• 7:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not feeling great because I really like, I feel like I dropped the ball on this because I was like, oh yeah, it's in a couple of weeks. It's in a couple of weeks. And then it was like, it's actually on Monday.

• 8:06Hannah Berner?

  I tried a nickel.

• 8:07Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was like, oh, right.

• 8:08Hannah Berner?

  This is how I feel for everything.

• 8:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Usually I'm in a shopping mood. In the past couple of weeks, I haven't been in a shopping mood. So like, I haven't even gone.

• 8:16Hannah Berner?

  Well, we went shopping last week and all you got was sunglasses.

• 8:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I know.

• 8:19Hannah Berner?

  And I was a little worried about you.

• 8:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Sometimes I get like that though.

• 8:22Hannah Berner?

  I was like, hey, can I talk to you for a sec? Is everything okay?

• 8:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Give me drama, give me like different trends, like I'm over it. Like I've seen it, seen it, seen it. I'm like, I don't care. I'm like, let me just wear my raincoat in peace.

• 8:33Hannah Berner?

  But you know what they say, when you hit rock bottom, that's when you can only go up and that's when change comes. Did you see Mel Robbins commented on, Mel Robbins commented on our clip where I talked about anxiety being a question?

• 8:44Paige DeSorbo?

  No, when she said, she was like, seasoned assist coming from my brand?

• 8:48Hannah Berner?

  No, I think I'm in an internship with Mel Robbins now.

• 8:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, what did she say?

• 8:54Hannah Berner?

  I forget, but it was something like supportive, like love this or something. Cause I think Grace made the caption Hannah Mel Robbins burner.

• 9:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I love that. Do you know what else I saw on the internet? Which, okay, sometimes, sometimes the gigglers enable me. Like they're actually really bad enablers.

• 9:11Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 9:11Paige DeSorbo?

  And they'll be like, no, we need a right. And I'm like, I knew I was.

• 9:18Hannah Berner?

  Our DMs from the gigglers are so different. Continue.

• 9:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Sometimes they'll DM me and be like, I know you can't DM me back because people are crazy, but like, I know what you're thinking right now.

• 9:27Hannah Berner?

  And I know you're reading this.

• 9:28Paige DeSorbo?

  And I always want to be like, I am reading this.

• 9:30Hannah Berner?

  Well, if you start it with, I'm a giggler, we will read it.

• 9:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And one girl DM'd me and she was like, I'm sorry, but I just have to call attention that like every time you bring up a man on the podcast, then like I get a TikTok of this man or like something like he's in the news. Like, okay, remember when I was like, oh, I love, not Seth Rogen, who's the other one?

• 9:51Hannah Berner?

  Oh, um, yeah.

• 9:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Jonah Hill.

• 9:53Hannah Berner?

  Jonah Hill.

• 9:54Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so mean. Not Seth Rogen, but Jonah Hill. But like, you get what I'm saying?

• 9:57Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 9:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Then it was like, he's mean to all, all the women that he dates, whatever. I talked about Paul Wall.

• 10:04Hannah Berner?

  He's everywhere now.

• 10:05Paige DeSorbo?

  He's everywhere.

• 10:07Hannah Berner?

  But this is what I don't love. Like I support men in the arts, but like we need to stop putting men on.

• 10:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I actually think Paul Wall didn't do anything bad.

• 10:15Hannah Berner?

  No, I think he's really good for the community of Houston.

• 10:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I think they love him there, but like all of a sudden I'm, everyone's DMing me like all these videos. He's like rapping.

• 10:22Hannah Berner?

  Paul Wall's at my wedding.

• 10:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, this guy literally was under a bridge.

• 10:27Hannah Berner?

  Paul Wall's in the community theater.

• 10:30Paige DeSorbo?

  And also, he looks phenomenal.

• 10:33Hannah Berner?

  He does?

• 10:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, he's like-

• 10:34Hannah Berner?

  You know what? Cause he's been out of the drama. When you're not in drama, your skin flourishes.

• 10:38Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so true.

• 10:39Hannah Berner?

  And he always wears grills, so his teeth are protected.

• 10:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know if he still is wearing. Actually, he might have been in the one video.

• 10:44Hannah Berner?

  I don't know if you can take them off.

• 10:46Paige DeSorbo?

  And then, remember when I brought up the guy from 10 Things I Hate About You? And then all of a sudden, there was like a big article about how he may or may not be in a cult.

• 10:52Hannah Berner?

  Not Heath Ledger.

• 10:53Paige DeSorbo?

  No, the other guy.

• 10:54Hannah Berner?

  Well, speaking of cults.

• 10:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 10:56Hannah Berner?

  Oh wait, I do want to say, all my DMs are just people going, Paige is gonna be so mad at you.

• 11:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Why?

• 11:02Hannah Berner?

  Cause they know I'm rage baiting. So I got the Crocs Lego collab.

• 11:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 11:08Hannah Berner?

  And I have-

• 11:09Paige DeSorbo?

  You posted them?

• 11:10Hannah Berner?

  Yes. You like, your algorithm-

• 11:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Did I see it?

• 11:13Hannah Berner?

  You probably threw your phone and broke it, or you haven't seen it.

• 11:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Let me see it. You posted it on Instagram or TikTok?

• 11:19Hannah Berner?

  Instagram.

• 11:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Usually I stalk you every time you're posting. Sometimes you go through, well, that's not a real shoe.

• 11:27Hannah Berner?

  It is.

• 11:28Paige DeSorbo?

  It's an art piece.

• 11:29Hannah Berner?

  Which is fashion.

• 11:31Paige DeSorbo?

  You're not wearing that out.

• 11:31Hannah Berner?

  It's fashion.

• 11:32Paige DeSorbo?

  How could you wear it out? How heavy is it?

• 11:34Hannah Berner?

  With a capri?

• 11:35Paige DeSorbo?

  This is like a gag.

• 11:36Hannah Berner?

  I should have shown up with them today.

• 11:38Paige DeSorbo?

  They look heavy.

• 11:39Hannah Berner?

  You know what? Y'all do anything for fashion? So anyway, my DMs are just full of people being like, Paige is gonna lose it. Paige is gonna be so mad.

• 11:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Those aren't even practical.

• 11:49Hannah Berner?

  Paige is shaking. Those are all my DMs. Um, but speaking about cults, my favorite thing to talk about, I watched the documentary called Inside the Manosphere.

• 11:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 11:59Hannah Berner?

  So there's this guy Louis Theroux, who's known for doing like crazy documentaries about like murderers. He's just like, he exposes people, but the way he does it is he like, he's this like nice British guy.

• 12:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 12:10Hannah Berner?

  Who's inquisitive. And he just asks people questions and then lets them talk. I mean, what-

• 12:15Paige DeSorbo?

  What's that like?

• 12:16Hannah Berner?

  Like he asks a question and then doesn't finish those sentences.

• 12:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. And he's not thinking about what he wants to say next?

• 12:22Hannah Berner?

  He just asks it and he sits there and like lets them reveal themselves. That's like his art form. So the Manosphere doc, I watched it with Dez. I was like, this is gonna piss me off, but fine, let's watch it.

• 12:33Paige DeSorbo?

  What is Manosphere?

• 12:35Hannah Berner?

  Great question. So the Manosphere is basically not on our algorithm. The Manosphere is what Gen Z boys consume because-

• 12:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, like their whole like red pill thing?

• 12:47Hannah Berner?

  The concept is that you're born as a man with no value.

• 12:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 12:51Hannah Berner?

  Which is already like very cultish to be like, the only way you get value is from listening to us. So to get value, you have to, you can't just be a nine to five like loser. Which, again, there's like a good, cool concept of being like, don't get stuck in a bad nine to five, like chase your dreams. Like with all cults, like it's, it kind of makes sense. In the beginning, you're like, I could get into this. Like, don't get stuck in a job you hate.

• 13:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Scientology is like, it's about community and it's like, and then they're like, give us your kids.

• 13:23Hannah Berner?

  Kindness is nice. Yeah.

• 13:24Paige DeSorbo?

  And you're like, okay.

• 13:25Hannah Berner?

  So like younger men will be like, yeah, and basically how society is just like, um, everything is going against them, which is ironic because that's not how it is for white men. But um, they're told that like, no, everything is going against them. Like women are, hate them and all this stuff. And so they then follow these like ultra, and I put in parentheses and quotations, basket looking men who are like, I live my life as a high value man. And if you follow me and you pay for my ebook and you sign up for this-

• 13:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I knew there was an ebook somewhere.

• 14:00Hannah Berner?

  You'll get rich quick. So all these guys are basically taking advantage of like young or insecure lost men to follow them.

• 14:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Before you proceed.

• 14:12Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 14:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like the world as a whole always like history repeats itself.

• 14:16Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 14:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I would say like 10, 15 years ago, there was a book that every guy read.

• 14:21Hannah Berner?

  I was about to, this, the second they started, I go, this reminds me of The Pickup Artist. I remember guys talking about the book.

• 14:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Uh huh. And it was basically like, in nice terms, how to be mean to girls to get them to like you.

• 14:36Hannah Berner?

  When a guy was telling me about it, it basically like makes women seem like these dumb objects that like, if you do certain things, you can trick them to like you. But the guys that it was attracting were guys who like, had their own issues and just-

• 14:49Paige DeSorbo?

  It would be like guys that are in their early 40s now, read it in college.

• 14:52Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 14:53Paige DeSorbo?

  That was like the age group.

• 14:54Hannah Berner?

  And it targets men who like are insecure and maybe had some bad experiences with women, like women don't like them. But it's not because women are bad people, it's because they need to gain their own confidence. But instead of blaming like-

• 15:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you know how many losers I've loved? Like, that's just like not-

• 15:09Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like, you will find a girl to like you.

• 15:12Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I've liked a lot of losers.

• 15:14Hannah Berner?

  They basically say like, girls are the problem, and if we can-

• 15:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Eliminate them.

• 15:23Hannah Berner?

  So I thought the documentary was gonna be like-

• 15:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, somebody said to me the other day, "Oh, well, her whole shtick is hating men." And I go, "It's not a shtick."

• 15:32Hannah Berner?

  It's not a shtick, I took-

• 15:33Paige DeSorbo?

  It's my real personality.

• 15:35Hannah Berner?

  Wait, can I call you out?

• 15:36Paige DeSorbo?

  What?

• 15:37Hannah Berner?

  Paige cooked a meal for a man.

• 15:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god! No, I literally am that meme, like, "I hate men, then I go home and then shoot mine like a princess."

• 15:46Hannah Berner?

  Paige cooked a meal for a man, wasn't gonna tell me, because she knew that I'd make fun of her, because she knows I live that life. Like, I talk about it and I be about it. But she talks about it and then goes home, makes a meal, and she, you literally try to hide it from me. And that, in that moment, I laughed so hard because you knew I was gonna do this on the pod and expose you.

• 16:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I went as far to like, go on TikTok and be like, "How else can you make broccoli?"

• 16:11Hannah Berner?

  Well, I'm dressed like a trad wife right now, so I can't say anything.

• 16:14Paige DeSorbo?

  No, we've literally, we've turned a real scary corner. No. First of all, I ate that meal too. I actually cooked it for myself and someone else just happened to frickin' be there.

• 16:24Hannah Berner?

  The fact you didn't want to tell me is what's so funny.

• 16:29Hannah Berner?

  I have a full intervention for you. I'm like, hey, I heard you cooked broccoli for someone. That wasn't yourself. Okay, so.

• 16:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Half of it stayed was like still frozen, so it like doesn't even count.

• 16:37Hannah Berner?

  And also, if you start cooking for him, then you could poison him eventually if you have to.

• 16:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 16:41Hannah Berner?

  There's like a long game we're playing. So with.

• 16:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, also, in my defense, I've never cooked a meal for a man before.

• 16:52Hannah Berner?

  I cooked a lot of meals for Dez during COVID because I was like going through something.

• 16:56Paige DeSorbo?

  The most I've made is like a grilled cheese sandwich. Like I've never prepared a full dinner just for me and another and a man. This is my first time ever.

• 17:05Hannah Berner?

  And how was it?

• 17:06Paige DeSorbo?

  The food?

• 17:07Hannah Berner?

  In general, the experience.

• 17:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, the experience was fun. It didn't take as long as I thought it was gonna be. Again, everything was like half frozen, so it actually shouldn't have taken longer.

• 17:16Hannah Berner?

  But also, from an Italian family, we're really raised like guys, like girls who cook well. Like I told you once, my mom was like, put cookies in the oven. Like it was a crazy time.

• 17:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 17:27Hannah Berner?

  I, you guys, I didn't realize how little it matters if you can cook or not. Uber Eats changed the game for women.

• 17:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually, a couple of months ago, I said something and I was like, well, I'm not gonna be how, like my mom would go to work, come home.

• 17:41Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 17:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Make dinner.

• 17:42Hannah Berner?

  Seven jobs.

• 17:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And I never thought about it ever. And I said, I don't even know where I was, that like, my dad was like, Paige, you're gonna cook. And I was like, okay, well, not every night. And then my mom was like, if you have children, you're going to cook for that. And I started crying. I literally started crying. My dad was like, uh, I don't know what, I was like, oh my God, we just went back to the 1950s. I'm not going to dinner every night. You guys are stressing me out. Like all those meal prep things and like TikTok honestly makes cooking so easy. The girls have truly figured out so many things. They're like, you can do this in 10 minutes.

• 18:20Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. I'm so excited for our partnership with Buffalo Wild Wings. First of all, because the buffalo, hot. Tall.

• 18:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 18:27Hannah Berner?

  Strong jaw, low voice, great beard.

• 18:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, he speaks.

• 18:31Hannah Berner?

  Yes. He's hilarious. Only guy that makes me laugh, truly.

• 18:36Paige DeSorbo?

  One of our favorite things to do together is get the pick six at Buffalo Wild Wings.

• 18:40Hannah Berner?

  Two entrees, two sides, two drinks. It's perfect. 1999, girl. When we're doing gossip sesh, I need multiple options.

• 18:50Paige DeSorbo?

  And we're never ordering the same entree because you're eating the rest of mine. And why would you eat something you've already had?

• 18:58Hannah Berner?

  You have to have eating chemistry to be best friends.

• 19:00Paige DeSorbo?

  People don't talk about eating chemistry enough.

• 19:03Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like if we both wanted to finish the tots.

• 19:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 19:06Hannah Berner?

  That could be a physical altercation.

• 19:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, and it's like, I don't need your tots because I have my wedges.

• 19:11Hannah Berner?

  What do you prefer, potato wedges or shoe wedges?

• 19:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Potato wedges?

• 19:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 19:17Paige DeSorbo?

  I got the boneless wings and wedges.

• 19:19Hannah Berner?

  I got the chicken dippers and tots. Boneless wings need to be talked about more because when you don't have to like work to earn.

• 19:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No muss, no fuss.

• 19:28Hannah Berner?

  No, no mess, no fuss. No muss, no fuss?

• 19:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know what it is.

• 19:32Hannah Berner?

  I knew what you meant.

• 19:34Hannah Berner?

  I love chicken dippers because they're a vehicle for joy. It starts already great, and then I decide, what toss do I want?

• 19:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 19:42Hannah Berner?

  I love the B-dubs dip. I love saying B-dubs also. It's not Buffalo Wild Wings, it's B-dubs, baby.

• 19:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I knew you were gonna say that.

• 19:49Hannah Berner?

  Come see me on B-dubs for the pick six.

• 19:51Paige DeSorbo?

  We're gonna put our friendship to the test and ask each other six rapid fire questions.

• 19:56Hannah Berner?

  Do you think I prefer ranch or blue cheese?

• 19:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Ranch.

• 19:59Hannah Berner?

  You're right. I think you prefer ranch.

• 20:01Paige DeSorbo?

  I prefer blue cheese. You don't know me. How many unread texts are currently on your phone?

• 20:07Hannah Berner?

  How many do you think?

• 20:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Fifteen.

• 20:09Hannah Berner?

  Seventy-three.

• 20:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Seventy-three?

• 20:11Hannah Berner?

  I'm gonna say thirteen.

• 20:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Zero, bitch.

• 20:13Hannah Berner?

  Mild or spicy chicken wing?

• 20:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Spicy.

• 20:17Hannah Berner?

  I know you want spicy. I'm mild.

• 20:19Paige DeSorbo?

  How many minutes into an event are you thinking about Irish exiting?

• 20:23Hannah Berner?

  After you get the photo, babe.

• 20:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm a cool twenty-five minutes.

• 20:26Hannah Berner?

  Out of everything in our pick six spread, which item would you want to steal from me?

• 20:31Paige DeSorbo?

  The chicken dipper.

• 20:31Hannah Berner?

  Let me see your dipping technique with your long ass fingers.

• 20:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, nice. What would you steal from me?

• 20:41Hannah Berner?

  Obviously a boneless wing.

• 20:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I can't believe you touched one and said no, and then touched a different one.

• 20:47Hannah Berner?

  You already bit that one.

• 20:50Hannah Berner?

  I was like, oop, someone's, someone cooked here.

• 20:53Paige DeSorbo?

  What's your number one dating red flag?

• 20:55Hannah Berner?

  If he wants to date me.

• 20:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I just, I have so many. It's like, how do you even pick one? What a lovely girl's lunch.

• 21:01Hannah Berner?

  Crisp.

• 21:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank you for listening to this segment of Giggly Squad, sponsored by Buffalo Wild Wings.

• 21:06Hannah Berner?

  And Marsh Madness is coming up, which means it's about to be so fun to go to B-Dubs and get the pick six. It's two entrees, two sides, two drinks for $19.99. That's less than $20.

• 21:20Paige DeSorbo?

  It is exactly less than $20.

• 21:24Hannah Berner?

  So grab your plus one, grab your bestie and go. Prices may be higher in select states. See Webber app for details. But also, men can cook too on Uber.

• 21:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Men can totally cook too.

• 21:34Hannah Berner?

  Instacart, figure it out. So anyway, I thought this documentary, Inside the Manosphere, was gonna be this like huge cult of men hating women, which it is.

• 21:46Hannah Berner?

  But he meets these guys and in it, you get to see, it was like three of these like top, top male manosphere influencers who were like connected to Andrew Tate in a way.

• 21:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Like how old?

• 22:00Hannah Berner?

  So the first one is really young. He's like 22. He's, he's British.

• 22:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 22:06Hannah Berner?

  He is so scared of his mom, who by the way, raised him, single mom, took him private school, like had multiple jobs. He basically realized that when he says crazy shit online.

• 22:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Like rage bait?

• 22:21Hannah Berner?

  Rage bait. He gets famous. So you're talking to this guy and you're realizing he says like, only fan models are disgusting, like, and he's, he's saying how men need to be a type of way and all this stuff. But as you're talking to him, you realize he's just saying shit for clout. He literally goes, I'm just doing it for clout. The problem is these young boys see him on the street and they're like, you're awesome. Meanwhile, he's hanging out with these OnlyFans girls who he's talking shit about. But then they're there and he interviews the OnlyFans girls and they're like, I'm just here because I'm making good money. Like, I don't give a fuck about him. I don't give a fuck about this. So they're all kind of in it together, but. There's that guy who does this crazy podcast, I forget his name, but you've seen it where he brings OnlyFans girls and he asks them like, like, what's your body count and then like tells them they're pieces of shit?

• 23:06Paige DeSorbo?

  That's the guy that like, he talks so bad about women and he's married to a woman who like, has two baby daddies and he says that that's like the worst thing you can ever do and it's like, but that's your-

• 23:16Hannah Berner?

  That's a different one, but there's too many. So he, he brings these OnlyFans girls on and I'm like, why are these girls going on when it's just a setup to embarrass them? And then I realized they're going on and they're just rolling their eyes because the men who are watching then sign up for their OnlyFans accounts, they're promoting their OnlyFans. And then these men are like, you're pieces of shit, whatever. And the girls are like, yeah, whatever. I don't care. I'm making money off this.

• 23:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Put your email in.

• 23:40Hannah Berner?

  Put your email in, yeah. All these guys are like, I would never, they're so angry at OnlyFans girls and I think it's because they realize these girls are making more money than them.

• 23:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Even if they made an OnlyFans, it's never gonna gross the same amount because women aren't like, women aren't like going,

• 23:54Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 23:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Are women like going on and watching OnlyFans guys? Yeah, no, I don't think so. Porn is free, you freak. Literally just go on the internet.

• 24:04Hannah Berner?

  You're not messaging her, she has a manager messaging you on her OnlyFans accounts, you fucking idiot.

• 24:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 24:08Hannah Berner?

  So, I digress. This guy, she just starts interviewing him and he's, the guy's like, I can have like another wife if I want, I want multiple wives. And he's like, have you told your girlfriend this? And he's like, yeah. And he's like, can we talk to her? And he's like, uh, uh. And he starts freaking out. Brings out the girl and the, the British guy's like, are you okay with him having multiple wives? And she's like, uh, no. And the guy starts to panic because like, he's getting exposed that like, he's just lying through his teeth of like the kind of guy he wants to be.

• 24:39Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so easy to diagnose them. Like, I'm not even a therapist and I could diagnose you. Like, I had a boyfriend one time, in his 30s, well into his 30s. This man talked about getting bullied in middle school every other day. I was like, at some point, dude, move on.

• 24:56Hannah Berner?

  But he brings these girls in the pod and he just tells them they're worthless and no one wants to be with them. And then he says, what kind of guy do you want to be with? And the girl's like, I want him to be over six feet and make over 300K. And he puts it in some like made up algorithm and he's like, that's two, that's 0.2% of men on the planet. You'll never get that. Like, it's this crazy thing. But then I realized it's all for clout and views. These men don't actually think that. So then he tells them, I don't want you to call my girlfriend anymore.

• 25:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm.

• 25:23Hannah Berner?

  She ends up breaking up with him.

• 25:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 25:25Hannah Berner?

  Obviously, because she's, she said to the camera, she goes, yeah, there's him in front of the camera, but then there's who he really is. So he starts being like, fuck, I'm getting exposed. So there's a positive where I'm like, okay, these guys don't actually think all these horrible things about women, but they're con artists and taking advantage of the dumb or just young men that don't know what to do and are like being trained by the algorithm. But these men have to realize these are con men. They're taking your money. Andrew Tate makes everyone sign up for a course of like how to be an alpha man. And it's like.

• 26:01Paige DeSorbo?

  That is so embar- embarrassing.

• 26:04Hannah Berner?

  But also when you hear.

• 26:05Paige DeSorbo?

  You're bald.

• 26:07Hannah Berner?

  When you hear him talk, you're like, I'm so scared right now. And also all these manosphere men.

• 26:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Get arrested for sex trafficking?

• 26:14Hannah Berner?

  No, he's, it's like disgusting.

• 26:16Paige DeSorbo?

  What are we even talking about?

• 26:18Hannah Berner?

  By the way, I, not to brag, I have a brother, I'm an athlete. I spend a lot of time with a lot of very testosterone men.

• 26:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 26:26Hannah Berner?

  I've never seen men who were more obsessed with talking about OnlyFans models. All these men do is talk about OnlyFans models. Like, that's the only women they know.

• 26:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 26:34Hannah Berner?

  And also like.

• 26:35Paige DeSorbo?

  And it's like, you've never met them.

• 26:37Hannah Berner?

  You've never met them. Also, you're just so mad these OnlyFans girls don't need you, but they're like obsessed with OnlyFans.

• 26:42Paige DeSorbo?

  How many episodes is this?

• 26:44Hannah Berner?

  It's, I believe, two or three.

• 26:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you think they're obsessed with OnlyFans because like, and porn stars didn't get this? Well, I'm sure they got so much hate. But like before social media, I'm saying, because it was known that like, if you were a porn star, then you were basically getting abused. Like where the OnlyFans girls can control their subscription money, like their bank account.

• 27:06Hannah Berner?

  Unless if they're run by male managers who like form these OnlyFans agencies.

• 27:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I feel-

• 27:12Hannah Berner?

  One of the guys runs an OnlyFans agency, but he talks bad about- I know. But he talks bad about OnlyFans models.

• 27:18Paige DeSorbo?

  That's not an agent, that's a modern day, like-

• 27:22Hannah Berner?

  I met a Red Pill- I met a Red Pill guy once, I didn't know what Red Pill was at the time, and I asked him what his type was, and one of the first things he said was, "They can't do OnlyFans." I'm like, "No one brought up OnlyFans, why are you bringing up OnlyFans?"

• 27:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, like, the percentage of women that do do OnlyFans compared to like, how many women are alive is like, very small.

• 27:41Hannah Berner?

  Also, like, then stop meeting OnlyFans girls, like, why are all your friends OnlyFans? And you're dating an OnlyFans model. It's a sense of control where they hate when women have sex with a lot of guys. I think one, because it means that we can compare your dick to other dicks. Men hate that.

• 27:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, they do.

• 28:00Hannah Berner?

  They hate that you're like, have seen shit.

• 28:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 28:03Hannah Berner?

  They like you being, them being the first one and only one.

• 28:06Paige DeSorbo?

  They also wanna feel like some type of elite, like, only I got to have sex with her.

• 28:11Hannah Berner?

  Well, that's, not to get deep, but it goes back to like, you're like, why do guys talk about like, 18 and 19 year olds and stuff?

• 28:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 28:19Hannah Berner?

  It's cuz they can manipulate them.

• 28:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you see the, uh, Netflix show Age of Attraction?

• 28:25Hannah Berner?

  I couldn't click it, just cuz-

• 28:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, I couldn't even get through the first episode. I wanted to be like, "What we learned here today is age actually does fucking matter." Like, here's the thing, if you're in your third, like, I think it's, I think you go through very different phases in your life. Your twenties is insanely different than your thirties-

• 28:46Hannah Berner?

  Well, your brain's not fully formed.

• 28:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Which is very different from your forties. If you're a 35 year old woman and you meet a 45 year old man, beautiful.

• 28:53Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 28:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Gorgeous.

• 28:54Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 28:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Love it.

• 28:55Hannah Berner?

  Snored it.

• 28:56Paige DeSorbo?

  You guys are on the same page. If you're a 25 year old girl and you're dating even 10 years older, like, I think back that to, I'm closer, closer to the age-

• 29:08Hannah Berner?

  Closer.

• 29:08Paige DeSorbo?

  That my boyfriend was- Then I am to 26. Like when I was 26, I dated someone 36. If you're a 36 year old man and you are interested in someone under 30, it's because you know that no girls your age would ever deal with you. They know how dumb you are. They know that like you couldn't

• 29:30Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 29:31Paige DeSorbo?

  figure it out. And that's why you have to go impress like a younger girl.

• 29:34Hannah Berner?

  Such an epiphany. When I was 25, I dated a guy who was 35.

• 29:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Insane.

• 29:39Hannah Berner?

  And I like, he was the shit. I thought he was like amazing.

• 29:42Paige DeSorbo?

  You think he's amazing.

• 29:43Hannah Berner?

  He was amazing. But I knew after like a year, um, I started having panic attacks.

• 29:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 29:48Hannah Berner?

  Cause I knew that.

• 29:50Paige DeSorbo?

  When I dated this guy, goal weight. Let me tell you, I've never been skinny.

• 29:53Hannah Berner?

  Goal weight. And he was like, I'll like, I'll marry you. By the way, I had no job. I had no idea what I wanted to do. And he was like, perfect. This girl's lost and confused.

• 30:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 30:03Hannah Berner?

  And in my head, I was like, I don't know why he's picking me, but I don't feel good about myself around him. But he wants to be with me. It didn't make any sense. Thank God, my body had the wherewithal to be like, this isn't safe, get out. I did write an article once for Elle about zaddies. So I basically was like, look, I met my husband when I was 30. He was 44. This is why I think it's working out so far. But I basically said, there's no power dynamic between us.

• 30:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 30:30Hannah Berner?

  I'm financially independent. I know what my career is. I've gone to therapy. He doesn't have any power over me. We are very equal. When you're 25, 26 and your brain isn't fully formed and you're with a guy who's financially powered over you, I don't like the position that puts girls in.

• 30:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Period. Pod's over.

• 30:52Hannah Berner?

  Yep. So make sure the power dynamic is even.

• 30:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. So I was coming to LA and I like last minute panicked that I didn't have any outfits. So I ordered a bunch of stuff from Revolve. I got one of the cutest like leather jackets. It's like very structured and like almost like an ivory color and I'm obsessed with it. But the fact that Revolve ships so quickly that like, I knew I was gonna have it before I had to leave. And it totally eased like my panic of like, I have no outfits.

• 31:24Hannah Berner?

  As a type B girl. The amount of times Revolve has saved my life, like I'll do panic orders, like get five things, hope something fits, and the shipping and returns are so easy. They get delivered in two days. No other place is like that consistent and that easy. And then returning it, I'm bad at returning things. They make it so, so easy. And then I don't feel all this pressure when I'm shopping.

• 31:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, give me a return label. That gets me going.

• 31:52Hannah Berner?

  And I love a curation. And I feel like, okay, I'm going on vacation. I go to Revolve's vacation recommendations and I see what the girls are buying, what people recommend. I love their curated stuff of what all the brands I should wear.

• 32:05Paige DeSorbo?

  You don't have to go through like a thousand pages of clothes. They basically like broke it up for you for exactly what you're looking for. We love organization. Also, they just launched their own label, which is so amazing. It's called Revolve L.A. And it's just like chic. It's cool. It's modern. It's elevated.

• 32:23Hannah Berner?

  When you're going to a dinner or an event where there's photos, it's a brand to watch for sure. I'm definitely going to buy some.

• 32:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 32:30Hannah Berner?

  I also got like random skincare from them and I'll get sunglasses from them. They have fun accessories and I I recently got these really cute sunglasses that fit my face perfectly and it made me feel so confident and cool.

• 32:41Paige DeSorbo?

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• 33:26Paige DeSorbo?

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• 34:09Paige DeSorbo?

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• 37:48Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so interesting that it's just so normalized that like if a guy is 36 and he's like, "Yeah, she's 28." That's like the perfect age. Okay, what about the other, what about the 36-year-old women? Why do you feel like you're too good for women your age?

• 38:04Hannah Berner?

  Can I tell you one thing? It's not beauty. Cause when I was 22, I was ugly. I'm the best looking, I'm the best looking I've ever looked. I just wanna say that right now.

• 38:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Especially in this generation.

• 38:14Hannah Berner?

  With a spray tan right now, best looking I've ever looked.

• 38:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Hello, Ali Larter, like she's in her 50s.

• 38:18Hannah Berner?

  But these men see 21-year-old girls and they go, "She's not gonna clock my shit."

• 38:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, she's not gonna clock my shit.

• 38:24Hannah Berner?

  Where in your 30s, a mile away, you're like, "No, no, I'm not getting out of bed for this." Also, "We're not going on a yacht."

• 38:32Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 38:32Hannah Berner?

  "I'm not going to your fucking party where I have to be up all night." Girls in their 30s are like, "I'm too tired."

• 38:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 38:38Hannah Berner?

  "I'm not going on your orgy. I'm not having an orgy." The third guy, he's this like older man. He pulls up in a Lamborghini. And he's like, "But this is not what my life is about. It's about being a good, honest person." It's not about the flash and the glamour, but he's wearing like a three-piece suit. In Miami, it's like 90 degrees. And he basically is like, "I cheat on my wife, but she's not allowed to cheat on me."

• 39:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Perfect.

• 39:03Hannah Berner?

  And all this stuff. And he's one of the top guys. When Andrew Tate did his like multi-level marketing scheme, there's like several guys that got on early and did well off of it. So it's classic like, "See, that guy did well. Why can't you do well?" And it shows these other guys who are big fans of him. This guy has no job. And he's being told not to take a nine-to-five, cause that's like the matrix. That's like the system that like holds you down. So he's living in a car and just paying for Andrew Tate's eBooks.

• 39:32Paige DeSorbo?

  What?

• 39:33Hannah Berner?

  Cause, cause it's a multi-level marketing scheme. So these men think like, "I just have to..." And they're, they're like, "I have no value. I have to gain value. I have to be strong. I can't let women whatever." And they're just hurting themselves.

• 39:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you wanna know the worst part about this?

• 39:46Hannah Berner?

  What?

• 39:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Is the fact that they're catering to all these like young Gen Z men that in like 15 years, everyone's gonna be like, "Where, what, why didn't their moms raise them?" But at some point, it's gonna get blamed on us.

• 39:58Hannah Berner?

  Also, these are the men that eventually are gonna run our country. Cause god forbid we get a woman.

• 40:04Paige DeSorbo?

  God forbid.

• 40:05Hannah Berner?

  God forbid.

• 40:05Paige DeSorbo?

  God forbid a woman goes anywhere near.

• 40:09Hannah Berner?

  This is so overdone, but there was a really funny TikTok where a guy was like, you know, men love to start wars, but if we were a president, none of the countries would be talking to each other. Just be quiet and calm. Like, we don't talk to, we don't, we don't talk to.

• 40:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, I don't talk to Russia. Okay.

• 40:25Hannah Berner?

  I saw her. I know what she's about.

• 40:28Paige DeSorbo?

  She knows that we've met before.

• 40:29Hannah Berner?

  I don't forgive, I don't forget.

• 40:31Paige DeSorbo?

  She acted like she didn't know me. I'm like, you saw me at the UN meeting.

• 40:35Hannah Berner?

  You're not in my group chat anymore. And if you talk to Russia, I swear to God, I'll never talk to you again. If I see you with Russia, I swear to God, there's gonna be a problem by problem. I mean, I'm just never gonna talk to you. I'm gonna block you.

• 40:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I was getting into a fight with someone the other day about just like men versus women, whatever. And he said to me, he was like, okay, well, who's fighting in all the wars? Men or women? Like, who's protecting in all? And I was like, you mean the war that all the men started? Like, what are you talking about? Yeah, why would we go fight? We're not involved.

• 41:07Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but this is not my fight. This is not my fight that you started over your oil for your big ass cyber truck.

• 41:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Not my war.

• 41:14Hannah Berner?

  Don't even have a driver's license, barely. I don't need gas for my car.

• 41:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Do cyber trucks take gas? Or no, they're like electric?

• 41:20Hannah Berner?

  Oh, they might be electric. But again.

• 41:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I do gas.

• 41:24Hannah Berner?

  Again, the president's against electric vehicles, so I'm not getting into this right now.

• 41:28Paige DeSorbo?

  I also think they're so.

• 41:30Hannah Berner?

  Well, I've never, I've never seen a cyber truck with a family in it. I'm just gonna say that. It's always just one.

• 41:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Have you ever seen like a four year old jump?

• 41:37Hannah Berner?

  It's just one alone sixty year old dude. And I'm like, I hope you're happy. I hope you're happy.

• 41:43Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so true. I've never seen my neighbors take their groceries in. And I've never seen a four year old jump out of a cyber truck.

• 41:49Hannah Berner?

  Never even seen a cute dog. Never seen a Labrador Retriever just head out of a cyber truck, having the time of his life. No, it's some dark sinister energy in that cyber truck.

• 42:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you see Lily Allen performed? And did you see like her dress?

• 42:05Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 42:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, she wore this dress to perform and it looks like, um, it almost like looked like a flag. But so it's like, it wraps her and then she has someone like holding it, like pulling it like taut. So she's like turning and it's like unfolding. Honestly, it was an art. Like peace, truly. And I was like, looking at the comments and like, looking at people saying like, what is the dress? She made a dress of all of the receipts from her ex of all the things he would buy other women. She wore it on stage and she like unraveled and was like singing and you could see like all, then like if you zoom in, you can tell it's like a receipt.

• 42:48Hannah Berner?

  If Lily Allen doesn't win a Grammy next year, I'm gonna be really mad. I think it's the best album of the year. Also, I rarely read comments, but I, someone was mad at me because they basically were like, you said that Charli XCX inspired Lily Allen. Didn't mean it like that. I think everyone gets, I don't even know what I said either, but I think everyone like gets inspired by things going on. But yes, Lily Allen's that girl. She's been doing it forever. And I think she should win the Grammy like for sure.

• 43:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I just thought it was so genius. Also, he, I think he has like a new show out or something and she's just like staying on his neck.

• 43:22Hannah Berner?

  So long story short, with the Manosphere, it turned out being less about like, oh, there's this culture where every man hates women. It's more, hey, there's like men that realize that they can monetize dumb men by saying rage bait shit about women. So that they can blame other things for why you're not doing well in life.

• 43:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's brainwashing.

• 43:44Hannah Berner?

  I do have to say, everyone, they're really mad about like toxic masculinity. Masculinity is not toxic. The opposite of toxic masculinity is not being weak. It's not being toxic. Be a good, strong, masculine man. Don't hate on women. If you want to sleep with a man, sleep with a man.

• 44:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I love it.

• 44:04Hannah Berner?

  Don't, you don't have to hate women.

• 44:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 44:06Hannah Berner?

  Just because that's your urge.

• 44:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, a lot of them do just want to be gay.

• 44:10Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 44:11Paige DeSorbo?

  And like, we would let them. Like, I don't know why they're, why they're being mean to us. We're a safe space.

• 44:17Hannah Berner?

  Before you download Andrew Tate's ebook, download Grindr and just see if that releases anything.

• 44:21Paige DeSorbo?

  The amount of time, you get two margaritas and me, I'll ask anyone's boyfriend. I've asked my own. I've been like, you could tell me. I won't tell anyone.

• 44:29Hannah Berner?

  I wonder how many girls have had that moment. Another cult documentary, which I just started. It's, it's slow, but it's, it's dark. Um, it's on Apple, which is new. A lot of them aren't on Apple. It's called Twisted Yoga.

• 44:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 44:44Hannah Berner?

  And again, it always starts with a girl being like, I'm spiritual. I think there's, I'm trying to find my purpose in the world and these yoga classes are helping me with like spirituality. Like it starts.

• 44:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Hey.

• 44:55Hannah Berner?

  Honest and sweet. And the next thing you know, she's in Romania in a, um, a building that's locked up. And they're doing tantric sex poses and drinking each other's pee. So anyway, it starts about love and peace and butterflies, and then it gets sinister. Notice the similarity between all these is when you're vulnerable.

• 45:17Paige DeSorbo?

  If someone said, drink this person's pee. Now if someone said, put it on your skin.

• 45:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Very different.

• 45:25Hannah Berner?

  You said, how much?

• 45:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I'd say, what kind? Like where exactly? Could I do it on my neck?

• 45:30Hannah Berner?

  How hydrated do I have to be for this? But this is the thing, they don't just sit you down and go, drink pee. It's this long process where it's like getting connected to your, your femininity and connected with others. And then next thing you know, like two years later.

• 45:44Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm not trying to drink a UTI. That is so vile.

• 45:49Hannah Berner?

  Cults are scary. So I'm, I'm only one episode in, which I think people like, cause they hate when I tell them what happens in the doc. But all these documentaries, it's history, guys.

• 45:59Hannah Berner?

  They're like, Ted Bundy got caught?

• 46:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, that's so true. But see, I'm an enabler, cause I like when you tell me the ending, cause then I'm like, checked off my list. I don't even have to go watch it.

• 46:10Hannah Berner?

  No, the Gensys get mad at me. They're like, both towers went down?

• 46:15Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, that was dark. That was dark. I'm a New Yorker, I'm allowed to say that.

• 46:19Paige DeSorbo?

  We were allowed to.

• 46:21Hannah Berner?

  You guys weren't even there, we saw it. Um, also remember when I said the girl messaged me who works for the Celsius or whatever? The census?

• 46:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 46:28Hannah Berner?

  That was also wrong.

• 46:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Cool.

• 46:29Hannah Berner?

  Um, she's actually a historian for the Smithsonian.

• 46:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, you really fight it out.

• 46:35Hannah Berner?

  But also, the gigglers are so, the gigglers are.

• 46:37Paige DeSorbo?

  She's actually a beekeeper in Argentina.

• 46:42Hannah Berner?

  The gigglers have the most amazing jobs. Historian, first of all, what is a Smithsonian? It sounds important.

• 46:48Paige DeSorbo?

  The Smithsonian is a museum, the Smithsonian.

• 46:51Hannah Berner?

  It's, but like, what's in the Smithsonian? Like the Mona Lisa?

• 46:53Paige DeSorbo?

  No, the Smithsonian is like, um.

• 46:57Hannah Berner?

  George Washington?

• 46:58Paige DeSorbo?

  No, the Smithsonian is like anything.

• 47:01Hannah Berner?

  Oh, like books?

• 47:02Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 47:02Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 47:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, like, like the NASA stuff. Hold on, I need to look it up.

• 47:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Like the planet.

• 47:11Hannah Berner?

  Night at the museum.

• 47:12Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 47:13Hannah Berner?

  What's the paintings?

• 47:14Paige DeSorbo?

  It's air and space, that's what I meant.

• 47:16Hannah Berner?

  It's the world's largest research complex featuring 21 museums. This is AI, so this could be completely wrong. Um, and then this is about misinformation. Oh, it has the aerospace museum, but also has museum, whatever. It's just, it's research.

• 47:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Other Smithsonian locations, New York City.

• 47:34Hannah Berner?

  Oh, it's all of them. It's American history and national.

• 47:37Paige DeSorbo?

  All the museums.

• 47:37Hannah Berner?

  You guys, we learned so much on this pod.

• 47:39Paige DeSorbo?

  We learned so much, I thought it was just air and space.

• 47:41Hannah Berner?

  So anyway, the people who listen to this podcast, research history. So if that makes you feel better.

• 47:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm so proud of them. I'm literally so fucking proud of them.

• 47:52Hannah Berner?

  How are you?

• 47:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I love that people listen to us, because they're like, oh.

• 47:55Hannah Berner?

  I need a release.

• 47:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I need, I need to listen to two idiots. So many facts. That I can just laugh.

• 48:01Hannah Berner?

  So much facts and high pressure. I just need people making no sense. I need two people interrupting each other for an hour.

• 48:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, let's do something page coded, because you went off.

• 48:09Hannah Berner?

  I went off.

• 48:10Paige DeSorbo?

  So my Trezmy commercial came out the other day.

• 48:13Hannah Berner?

  Wait, a second one? You already had one?

• 48:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, this was my new one. This is my, this was my new, like, Christian Siriano Devil Wears Prada vibe one. But when we, the day we were filming, this is so girly. The day we were filming it, it was just, I brought my parents. Like, it was just like the girliest shoot ever. It was like, we're doing hair, we're doing makeup, and like Vogue was there, and just all these different things.

• 48:34Hannah Berner?

  I've never done a shoot like that, continue.

• 48:36Paige DeSorbo?

  And so we're in the, like, dressing room. We had like a break, I don't know, it was like lunch. And my assistant was like, should I chop my hair off? And we were like, oh my God, do it, like, chop your hair off. So she literally had the longest hair ever. She's like, very cool Gen Z, chops it into a bob.

• 48:52Hannah Berner?

  During the shoot?

• 48:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 48:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm a really easy boss.

• 48:57Hannah Berner?

  Wait, you're like, stop production. My assistant needs to cut a bob.

• 49:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, go get a facial, babe. Like, what are you doing here? You know? Like, do whatever you want.

• 49:04Hannah Berner?

  You're like, actually, can we stop? I don't like that girl's hairdo. Can you change it? And you're like, she's not even on set. And you're like, I don't like it.

• 49:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, so she cuts her hair in the middle of the shoot. We're obsessed. We love her bob.

• 49:14Hannah Berner?

  How long did that take?

• 49:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Like 10 minutes. Just like, yeah, snap, snap. In true bob fashion, everyone gets a bob and then they're like, what if I chopped a little more off? Okay, my assistant now chopped up to here, literal pixie.

• 49:34Hannah Berner?

  Does she look good?

• 49:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, I'm obsessed. And I'm like, Hannah's gonna be so mad at me because it took, it took one other redhead to be like, what about a pixie cut? I can't stop looking at pictures of Lily Collins.

• 49:49Hannah Berner?

  I'll start crying if you do it.

• 49:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Because I'm like, wait, what if, right before I went to Italy, I just chopped all my hair off?

• 49:56Hannah Berner?

  Well, I personally want you, at your wedding, start like this.

• 50:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 50:02Hannah Berner?

  Then you chop the pixie, party the rest of the night.

• 50:06Paige DeSorbo?

  How much can I make about me?

• 50:08Hannah Berner?

  You're like, it's already gonna be too much.

• 50:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually, in the middle of this wedding, I will perform.

• 50:13Hannah Berner?

  Or for the honeymoon, maybe, when you go to somewhere really hot.

• 50:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I just chop it.

• 50:16Hannah Berner?

  You chop it. Um, can I just say, I've been wrong in my life before. I want to preface that.

• 50:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Not many times.

• 50:22Hannah Berner?

  Not many times, but a lot of time, people perceive it wrong because it's ahead of its time. And I say it not in the right way. However, people thought-

• 50:31Paige DeSorbo?

  You may joke, but you never play.

• 50:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Period. Period.

• 50:36Hannah Berner?

  Write that down. So when I first threw it into the ether, that you should get a pixie.

• 50:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 50:41Hannah Berner?

  The internet was a gasp. They said Hannah hates Paige.

• 50:44Paige DeSorbo?

  You're ahead of your time.

• 50:46Hannah Berner?

  Hannah's horrible. She's sabotaging her. And I said, sorry, I have a vision that you guys can't see.

• 50:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, sorry, that you believe in my face. You guys clearly don't.

• 50:53Hannah Berner?

  I know good bone structure.

• 50:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Now, I'm thinking, all those people don't believe in my face.

• 50:58Hannah Berner?

  The fact that you don't think, like, because my thing is, I just see Audrey Hepburn.

• 51:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank you.

• 51:03Hannah Berner?

  I see Audrey Hepburn, and when your face is so fucking chiseled and snatched like yours, like, when you pull your, your hair back, people lose their minds. Because they've never seen so many, so many angles of a cheekbone.

• 51:16Paige DeSorbo?

  This is why you're my friend.

• 51:18Hannah Berner?

  See, when I pull, pull my hair back, everyone goes, ah!

• 51:19Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I love when you pull your hair back.

• 51:21Hannah Berner?

  Stop it.

• 51:22Paige DeSorbo?

  You know I do.

• 51:23Hannah Berner?

  Stop it.

• 51:24Paige DeSorbo?

  You're doing a ponytail this week.

• 51:25Hannah Berner?

  No, I'm really stressed out.

• 51:26Paige DeSorbo?

  You've been stressed about it for literally a full seven days. Like, I think I have to do a ponytail.

• 51:32Hannah Berner?

  It's like the dentist's office. I'm like, I have to do a ponytail on Tuesday.

• 51:36Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, did you say I need to do a ponytail?

• 51:38Hannah Berner?

  And then they're...

• 51:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you always tell me when you're doing a ponytail as if you just got results from the doctor?

• 51:45Hannah Berner?

  No, I'm actually like...

• 51:46Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, okay, and I have...

• 51:46Hannah Berner?

  I have to get my wisdom teeth out. I'm like, I have to get a ponytail on Tuesday.

• 51:50Paige DeSorbo?

  You're never gonna believe this. I have herpes.

• 51:52Hannah Berner?

  When people do slick backs and they have a flat forehead and a wider head on top, it's, it looks amazing. I have a pointy head, so when they do it, like, you can't even see it. Like, you can't, it just, it exposes too much.

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• 56:24Paige DeSorbo?

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• 56:50Hannah Berner?

  Anyway, so you're pondering a pixie.

• 56:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Not like dummy more pixie like.

• 56:56Hannah Berner?

  Not shaven.

• 56:57Paige DeSorbo?

  No, no.

• 56:59Hannah Berner?

  Which.

• 56:59Paige DeSorbo?

  But not even like, I mean like, okay.

• 57:02Hannah Berner?

  I see a cute side bang.

• 57:03Paige DeSorbo?

  The way my assistant chopped it is like it literally stops. I'm gonna try and like. It literally stops like right here, like right at my ear.

• 57:13Hannah Berner?

  Mm-hmm.

• 57:13Paige DeSorbo?

  That's not a good representation.

• 57:14Hannah Berner?

  But I also see it with like a little side bang, like a swoop.

• 57:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I would go full side part forever.

• 57:21Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 57:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I wouldn't be able to do it down the middle because that would look insane, I feel like. But I would do just drastic side part all the time.

• 57:28Hannah Berner?

  You're literally my Barbie doll. I want to cut you up and then I want to take a little flame. I want to take a Sharpie and I just.

• 57:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Just walk in and I'm hanging from something. It's like she left me here.

• 57:42Paige DeSorbo?

  The way you treated your toys and the way I probably treated my toys.

• 57:47Hannah Berner?

  So you know that millennial um thing where it's like a fairy that you pull it and it spins and then goes into the air? I was breaking shit. I was like, how far can we get this to go? I also was obsessed with like little horse, like.

• 58:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Like My Little Pony?

• 58:05Hannah Berner?

  My Little Pony. I liked My Little Pony. I think I did wreckage to My Little Pony.

• 58:09Paige DeSorbo?

  See, I was a realist even as a child. I was like, fairies aren't real, can't fly. Ponies, not that small, get out of my face. I hated Barbies.

• 58:18Hannah Berner?

  I hated babies. I wasn't like playing with a baby. I'm like, I don't, not a mother.

• 58:22Paige DeSorbo?

  I had four kids. And if my mom didn't put them in car seats, I was like, and they'll die. You're a horrible mom, they'll die.

• 58:30Hannah Berner?

  You're literally Reba McIntyre. A working girl who works two jobs and never says.

• 58:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Speaking, remember the last episode, we talked about cigarettes and actually when I was a child, because my grandma smoked so many cigarettes. One day I literally sat down and said, I have to have a cigarette. And my mom like looked around and people were like, oh my god. She was like, she doesn't mean it. She's obviously four, she's not sitting down to have a cigarette. I was like, no, I need one, mom.

• 58:56Hannah Berner?

  Need one though.

• 58:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I actually need one. And my grandma had bought me candy ones, so I ripped one out of my purse, my Barbie purse, obviously. Cause what else is in my purse but candy cigarettes? And I sat on the sidewalk and I literally fake puffed the cigarette. My mom was like, she's not coming over anymore.

• 59:11Hannah Berner?

  I remember my mom got me in a dress with a matching purse and a matching hat.

• 59:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Those were my favorite.

• 59:17Hannah Berner?

  Fuming. She was like, hold this for one second, got the photo. And then I think I took the hat, it was like in a pool somewhere and then I like threw, everything was, and then I was rolling around in garbage.

• 59:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Whenever there was a matching accessory, I thought, genius.

• 59:30Hannah Berner?

  I refused to wear hats. From the second I came out of the home, they put a little knit hat on me and I got my fingers in it and I started, it was crazy.

• 59:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I loved wearing hats.

• 59:39Hannah Berner?

  Cleaned my apartment the other day, not to brag.

• 59:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Because it rained?

• 59:43Hannah Berner?

  The other day?

• 59:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. That's what I did.

• 59:45Hannah Berner?

  Within about an hour, I messed it up again. And it reminded me of another nickname I had. It's not, not Quadzilla. They used to call me Hurricane Hannah. Cause I would come into a place and I would just like wreck it. And it's at the point where at first I was mad at myself and now I'm like, you have a skill.

• 1:00:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I like to describe it as.

• 1:00:08Hannah Berner?

  Like I throw my shoes off.

• 1:00:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Nobody is mistaken that like you could have possibly taken ballet. As a child, like that's how I think of it. I'm like Hannah walks into a place and like even the way you walk, like, like you're, you don't mean to stomp in, but you're stomping in.

• 1:00:27Hannah Berner?

  No, I used to like, when I was at tennis academy, I lived with like six other kids and they would be like, why do you walk so heavy?

• 1:00:33Paige DeSorbo?

  So heavy.

• 1:00:34Hannah Berner?

  And I was like, sorry, my ass is fat.

• 1:00:36Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm literally pure wedding in. I'm like, I haven't even touched the ground yet. I actually think you would have been phenomenal at gymnastics.

• 1:00:43Hannah Berner?

  No, I, I eat too much.

• 1:00:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:00:46Hannah Berner?

  And I'm too tall. I'm five seven and my torso, I've thought about it, but I mean, the emotional abuse is similar to tennis though.

• 1:00:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I low key feel like doing gymnastics makes them short. Like.

• 1:00:56Hannah Berner?

  Oh, cause, cause they get stunted from all the working out?

• 1:00:59Paige DeSorbo?

  When I was in middle school, I really wanted to do gymnastics because I really wanted to be a cheerleader in high school.

• 1:01:04Hannah Berner?

  You wanted to wear the unitard.

• 1:01:04Paige DeSorbo?

  And then I said to my mom, okay, but it stunts their growth. I can't like.

• 1:01:09Hannah Berner?

  And you wanted to be a model.

• 1:01:09Paige DeSorbo?

  And I wanted to have long legs, so I literally quit gymnastics.

• 1:01:12Hannah Berner?

  I love that you had a vision for yourself from a young age. You're like, this doesn't work with my 10 year plan.

• 1:01:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I've always had a vision.

• 1:01:20Hannah Berner?

  Where'd you get that information that stunts your growth?

• 1:01:22Paige DeSorbo?

  I think I heard it somewhere and I never forgot it. The same way I heard like Demi, Demi Moore used to wash her hair with Ebbion water. I never forgot it. I read one time somewhere if you ended your shower in cold water, your hair would be shiny. Like, I would get random facts and then I would just like live by them.

• 1:01:41Hannah Berner?

  I miss problematic magazines in the nineties.

• 1:01:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Me too. Like.

• 1:01:45Hannah Berner?

  What a simple time.

• 1:01:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Does your orgasm matter? Like, does it? I don't know.

• 1:01:49Hannah Berner?

  How to give him the right handjob when he's mad at you.

• 1:01:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Like at this point, I'm like, I'm not sure.

• 1:01:53Hannah Berner?

  How to lose that fat that's everywhere that makes everyone hate you.

• 1:01:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Lose the last 15 pounds so you can hang with your friends.

• 1:02:00Hannah Berner?

  People were asking Zara Larson, who I love, how she has such a good body.

• 1:02:06Paige DeSorbo?

  And she like on tour, like performing every night.

• 1:02:10Hannah Berner?

  I liked, she basically was like, I don't, I just laugh a lot, which is very giggly squad code and I loved. But then I'm also like, she's dancing six hours a day.

• 1:02:21Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like

• 1:02:22Hannah Berner?

  Sometimes I can gull at my own jokes.

• 1:02:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Profusely sweating up there, like doing crunches.

• 1:02:28Hannah Berner?

  Also, she did admit like abs are genetic. Like, I don't have abs right now, but genetically I do.

• 1:02:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm almost five months, no UTI.

• 1:02:38Hannah Berner?

  Write that Us Weekly.

• 1:02:39Paige DeSorbo?

  But the other day, I felt just like a little like, I was like, could that be? And I literally said to myself, no, it's not. You're being crazy. Go chug a water. But do you want to know what I think? And I've had a couple of girls do get me, so I've been trying to like, track and like, see. The other day, I drank not one, not two, but three full Coca Colas throughout the day.

• 1:03:02Hannah Berner?

  Hey, watch what you, I swear to God, everyone's about to get diabetes because of you. What are you gonna say right now? What are you gonna say right now?

• 1:03:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I think the sugar, like, gives me the feeling like I'm getting one, but I'm not actually getting one.

• 1:03:16Hannah Berner?

  Oh, so you're saying it was bad that you chugged three Coke?

• 1:03:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Hundred percent.

• 1:03:19Hannah Berner?

  Okay, I thought you were saying if you don't want UTIs, chug three Coke.

• 1:03:22Paige DeSorbo?

  And the only reason I chugged three Cokes, and in my defense, they were all in glass bottles.

• 1:03:26Hannah Berner?

  It's a free country.

• 1:03:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, first of all.

• 1:03:28Hannah Berner?

  You're a free will.

• 1:03:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, free will, I'm an adult, I bought those.

• 1:03:31Hannah Berner?

  If that's your going off, like she partied one night.

• 1:03:33Paige DeSorbo?

  I went off, it was a Friday night. I was like, you know what? I'm drinking all the glass Coca Colas in the house.

• 1:03:40Hannah Berner?

  You're like, give me another one bartender.

• 1:03:43Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, those like, sometimes you get those cards at like bars where it's like, you've been cut off, like, just leave now. You just like, give me one. You're like, enough with the fucking Coca Cola. Sometimes you just need one, you know, I was having chips and dip. What was I gonna do?

• 1:03:58Hannah Berner?

  Have milk with it? You're not a psychopath.

• 1:04:00Paige DeSorbo?

  There are certain things you eat, you have to drink soda, chips and dip.

• 1:04:04Hannah Berner?

  Pizza.

• 1:04:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Chinese food, you have, I have to have a ginger ale when I have Chinese food.

• 1:04:09Hannah Berner?

  My, like, reason I'm delusional is because when I drink ginger ale, I think I'm

• 1:04:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Healthy.

• 1:04:14Hannah Berner?

  Healthy.

• 1:04:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, it is.

• 1:04:15Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, I need a vegetable.

• 1:04:17Paige DeSorbo?

  It's good for your stomach.

• 1:04:18Hannah Berner?

  I like looking at everyone around me, I'm like, sorry, I'm in a health kick right now.

• 1:04:21Paige DeSorbo?

  If I'm having any type of sandwich, I must have an iced tea. Like a turkey sandwich, I have to have an iced tea.

• 1:04:27Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:27Paige DeSorbo?

  If I'm eating Mexican, sometimes I have to have a lemonade.

• 1:04:31Hannah Berner?

  Speaking of drinking and peeing, the TikTok really made me laugh recently. By recently, I mean this morning. This comedian, Hilty Bowen, she was talking about men's and women's restrooms, so obviously I'm like, I'm in, what's this gonna say? And she goes, when men built restrooms.

• 1:04:50Paige DeSorbo?

  I saw that.

• 1:04:52Hannah Berner?

  I love that we have the same algorithm. It's so funny. She goes, when men built women's restrooms, they were like, okay, we'll put a toilet and I guess we'll put walls next to it and enclose it. We'll put another one next to it, another one next to it, another one next to it. Good, okay. For the men's room, they're like, let's put a toilet wall next to it and close it. Then I guess we should do some urinals. What if we just did no wall?

• 1:05:14Paige DeSorbo?

  No doors.

• 1:05:15Hannah Berner?

  No doors.

• 1:05:16Paige DeSorbo?

  And what if we just put them all next to each other?

• 1:05:19Hannah Berner?

  And just let them?

• 1:05:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's low key gay. Like it's actually, and like the guys were in the comments being like, we stare straight. I'm like, do you? And it's also like, why even tempt?

• 1:05:33Hannah Berner?

  Also imagine going to the women's bathroom and like peeing next to a woman without a wall. Like that's crazy intimate.

• 1:05:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, but I actually think it makes more sense for like the women's room to not have walls than it does the men's room.

• 1:05:51Hannah Berner?

  Cause we're not like flinging out a another.

• 1:05:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, we're just more intimate with each other as a whole.

• 1:05:57Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Like that's the only time, once they leave a sports team or a locker room, that's it. They're never undressing in front of each other, ever again.

• 1:06:06Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Like when else are they?

• 1:06:08Hannah Berner?

  What's it called when you have something coming out of your body?

• 1:06:10Paige DeSorbo?

  A limb?

• 1:06:11Hannah Berner?

  A limb. Yeah, like we're not pulling out an outer extremity.

• 1:06:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Extremity.

• 1:06:16Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like where men are like pulling it out.

• 1:06:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:19Hannah Berner?

  Men like peeing next to each other for sure.

• 1:06:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, they like it for sure.

• 1:06:22Hannah Berner?

  Is, it's the strangest thing, cause all they have to do is put a little wall, like a tiny wall.

• 1:06:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Some have like little short walls that are like next to it.

• 1:06:33Hannah Berner?

  But a lot of them don't.

• 1:06:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Like tiled walls.

• 1:06:36Hannah Berner?

  A lot of them don't.

• 1:06:37Paige DeSorbo?

  It's also interesting, cause it's like, oh, so you can aim. Oh, that's so interesting. Because when we're at home, it's all over the place, but oh, you actually can aim on a perfect like little circle.

• 1:06:50Hannah Berner?

  When we're at home, someone had a water balloon fight, the Madison Square documentary. The guy goes, well, look around me. Men invented everything. That was his like statement of like why men are superior.

• 1:07:02Paige DeSorbo?

  We invented people. Okay, and top that, we literally invented you.

• 1:07:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Like you came from someone's vagina.

• 1:07:12Hannah Berner?

  And then this woman did a list of like all the things that women invented, which was actually crazy. Like it was like wifi, a woman invented, like it was like all these things. But then it got me thinking of how many things men invented that like their wife told them about.

• 1:07:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's another thing that actually real that like reminds me of it. There's, I feel like there's so many women that will be like, okay, whatever. I don't need to get married. I'll have a child. Either I'll adopt a child or I'll get a sperm donor. Do you ever hear of stories?

• 1:07:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Mister, let's preserve my legacy. Do you ever hear of stories of straight men in their, straight men? Because I'm, I'm discounting the gay men because there's a lot of gay men that have children. Straight men that have a kid on their own? That's not forced upon them in some, in some weird situation? No, do men ever go and say, I need a surrogate because I want to have a child?

• 1:08:07Hannah Berner?

  And we would never force a man to have a child when he doesn't want one.

• 1:08:10Paige DeSorbo?

  No, we don't. If anything, we want to take them away.

• 1:08:14Hannah Berner?

  I'm not controlling men's bodies. Crazy.

• 1:08:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Isn't that so interesting? And another thing I thought about, now mind you, I'm a joint deep. Maybe a joint and a half. And I'm like, why doesn't anyone ever talk about cats getting ticks? Like there's so many stray cats and they're out on the streets and you never hear about them getting ticks. But you let your golden retriever out one time. And you're like, my golden retriever has Lyme disease. And he literally gave it to the whole house. So I looked it up. I was like, why doesn't anyone talk about cats getting ticks? When there's way more, I feel like there's way more stray cats.

• 1:08:56Paige DeSorbo?

  And Google said, because cats have such an intense grooming process, let every couple of hours, they wouldn't even let the tick attach to them. They have already gotten it off. And I'm like, and another reason that women.

• 1:09:09Hannah Berner?

  The only time a cat will get fleas, when like they're out like scared and fending for themselves and you have to save them. Well, this reminds me of when we were fostering dogs, which I love to do, but I don't know about dogs. And it was nine PM and I had to take the dog for a walk and I was like, this is annoying. It's pitch black. I'm alone. I'm scared. I'm like, this dog's not going to defend me if someone has a treat.

• 1:09:33Paige DeSorbo?

  No, literally.

• 1:09:34Hannah Berner?

  My algorithm is literally so dog eating. It's a bunch of videos.

• 1:09:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I can't wait. I'm literally so excited.

• 1:09:44Hannah Berner?

  It's a bunch of videos of the people. Okay, calm down.

• 1:09:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I hate you so much.

• 1:09:54Hannah Berner?

  It's gonna be so not funny now because I laugh too much. But they put like wet food in a bowl.

• 1:09:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:00Hannah Berner?

  And they get kidnappers to come in and as they're putting the wet food in, the kidnappers take them and fake beat them up. Dog goes up and looks and this is like 10 different dogs in the same situation and they look and then the dog keeps eating.

• 1:10:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Like doesn't care.

• 1:10:14Hannah Berner?

  And they're like pretending to like cut, like stab them and the dog just keeps eating the wet food. The dog finishes, looks back, keeps trying to get the wet food.

• 1:10:21Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's men. That's literally men.

• 1:10:25Hannah Berner?

  I'm gonna get light headed from love is where.

• 1:10:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Daphne would have clawed someone's eyes out.

• 1:10:28Hannah Berner?

  When I was walking this dog at 9pm, it's pitch black, I'm scared, it's cold. I'm like, this is not a lot, a long term life to live. Butters inside just waiting for me cozy in the bed and I'm like, sorry, I have to walk this wild animal outside in the dark. And then the dogs start, is just like fucking around in the grass. I don't know what he's doing and I'm just like letting him have fun because that's what they do. I'm like, I hope you had fun. I'm freezing. I walk back and the dog smells horrible. And I realized the dog was rolling around in other dogs poop.

• 1:11:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh.

• 1:11:00Hannah Berner?

  And Dez was like, like, how did you not see that happening? I was like, what? In any logical world, would a dog see another dog's poop? No, it's poop and go, let's roll around in this. And he's like, that's what dogs do. And I'm like, that's insane. And then watching him took like forever. It was, the whole night was ruined.

• 1:11:18Paige DeSorbo?

  No, honestly, that is, I wasn't like so, oh my God, I'm getting a cat because I hate dogs. I was getting a dog. And then I was like, what am I saying? I'm not getting up in the cold dead of winter and taking a dog out, ever.

• 1:11:32Hannah Berner?

  Also, I have a friend who their dog's like ruining their sex life because every time they have sex, the dog freaks out and starts barking. This is the last thing I'm saying about dogs and cats. This is why I love cats. When there's a thunderstorm.

• 1:11:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Cats are like cool. That's my ancestor.

• 1:11:47Hannah Berner?

  When I tell you that's a thunderstorm, dogs freak out. They're barking. They think they're under attack.

• 1:11:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Scared, yeah.

• 1:11:52Hannah Berner?

  They're under attack. They're scared. They're like, if I'm uncomfortable, I'm gonna make everyone uncomfortable. There was a thunderstorm this morning. When I tell you, Butter was mesmerized. Butter sat there and was looking at-

• 1:12:03Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like gorgeous.

• 1:12:03Hannah Berner?

  She was like, this is a piece of art. This is Michelangelo. She's watching the lightning. She's looking at all the wet people outside and she's just taking in like an observational comic.

• 1:12:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, because she has the wherewithal to know it's outside and she's inside. Where the dogs are like, they're coming to attack. It's like, have a treat. Shut up. No, we didn't mean to go this hard on the men and the dogs this pod.

• 1:12:27Hannah Berner?

  I actually started this pod and I was like, we've been talking too bad about men. Let's have a light pod.

• 1:12:32Paige DeSorbo?

  So you brought up the, just the worst documentary of all time. I started this pod. I was like, guys, I'm in a raincoat. It's gonna be such a fun day.

• 1:12:39Hannah Berner?

  Let's end with something nice.

• 1:12:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:12:41Hannah Berner?

  Fashion.

• 1:12:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:42Hannah Berner?

  I'm obsessed with this trend. Do you like it? The whole wrong shirt with track pants. So you wear track pants with like a work shirt.

• 1:12:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Love.

• 1:12:51Hannah Berner?

  It's, do you have any advice for pulling it off correctly? Cause I feel like this is something that I might wear and people will get like upset by.

• 1:12:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, it's like kind of the same thing when people are like, you're wearing an outfit and then just do like the weirdest shoe.

• 1:13:03Hannah Berner?

  Yes, which I love.

• 1:13:04Paige DeSorbo?

  I would just say it's something really masculine and then something really feminine.

• 1:13:07Hannah Berner?

  Love. Love.

• 1:13:09Paige DeSorbo?

  So like a ruffly, like frilly shirt and then it's just like an Adidas track pant.

• 1:13:15Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 1:13:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Cute. Very cute.

• 1:13:17Hannah Berner?

  Okay, cool. I feel like I'm leaning towards that for spring. Anyway, guys, look forward to our outfits coming out on Monday. Paige hasn't picked hers yet. She's very stressed. I picked mine, but I might somewhere point her.

• 1:13:27Paige DeSorbo?

  And this is coming out. This will already be out, but my Daphne Lemmy collab, which you wanna know what? Needs a whole podcast episode, so catch that on Friday. We'll talk about it.

• 1:13:39Hannah Berner?

  Don't miss it.

• 1:13:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Bye.

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