Giggling about therapy, retirement, and ravioli

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• 1:31Speaker 03

  Sup, Gigglers? Gary, fix your Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

• 1:41Speaker 03

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 1:45Hannah Berner?

  Grazie, Gigglers!

• 1:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 1:48Hannah Berner?

  Giggler, Giggleros!

• 1:51Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, that became a different language. I don't know what that was. I'm a little mad at you. Can I say something?

• 1:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:56Hannah Berner?

  Love your content, support women in the arts, your outfits are fire. Where are the food photos? I'm sick of seeing Emilio Pucci, where's the Parmesan?

• 2:07Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I know.

• 2:08Hannah Berner?

  You're not giving me what I want.

• 2:12Hannah Berner?

  You're gatekeeping, you sicko.

• 2:14Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm not gatekeeping. Some of the things I order, I feel like I take a picture of it and it doesn't look-

• 2:21Hannah Berner?

  It's not the right aesthetic?

• 2:23Paige DeSorbo?

  It doesn't look that appetizing, but I'm like, I promise it's really good. And here's the thing, what it, I think what it is, I order a lot of eggplant and it's just like, it's not the prettiest dish.

• 2:34Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I didn't know, you know, I love eggplant.

• 2:36Paige DeSorbo?

  I love eggplant.

• 2:37Hannah Berner?

  No, I love eggplant.

• 2:40Paige DeSorbo?

  I love eggplant in all forms. Honestly, I ordered it the other day and they brought it out in like a bunt cake.

• 2:48Hannah Berner?

  You can make eggplant in any way.

• 2:51Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was like, this is so interesting. And then they like gave it to, they sliced it like it was cake for me.

• 2:56Hannah Berner?

  Eggplant is the Italian potato. It comes in all shapes and forms. Fried, mashed, ground.

• 3:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Are they mashed?

• 3:05Hannah Berner?

  Well, you know that place Frank, Little Frankie's in New York City, they like grill it and they kind of mash it a little bit with the skin still on and then they put honey and like something spicy on it.

• 3:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 3:18Hannah Berner?

  Welcome to the Food Network.

• 3:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 3:20Hannah Berner?

  So anyway, just a request for, for more food content. But your outfits have been incredible and you tried to make it, oh yeah. Do you want to speak for yourself for gaslighting everyone?

• 3:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I gaslit everyone into thinking I didn't have any outfits, but here's the thing.

• 3:35Hannah Berner?

  Gaslitto, gaslitto.

• 3:37Paige DeSorbo?

  I just went through one week of outfits. I have another week here. So we're not out of the trenches. If anything, we're smack dab in the middle, okay? So yeah, obviously I had some outfits. I didn't come naked, but you know, I'm definitely looking at the closet being like, we're getting down to the wire, folks.

• 3:59Hannah Berner?

  How much, how much shopping are you doing?

• 4:02Paige DeSorbo?

  I have done a significant amount of shopping.

• 4:04Hannah Berner?

  Okay, good.

• 4:05Paige DeSorbo?

  And it feels great.

• 4:07Hannah Berner?

  Good. Did you heal anything?

• 4:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Retail therapy is real therapy.

• 4:12Hannah Berner?

  Wait, can I announce? You remember how I told everyone, I don't know if I told everyone, but I stopped seeing my therapist?

• 4:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I don't think you announced.

• 4:19Hannah Berner?

  Okay, and I got off my meds. But then I got right back on my meds, real quick.

• 4:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I was gonna say, we're free flowing this summer.

• 4:28Hannah Berner?

  No, we've been back on the meds. Um, but I was like, it feel like, it's like having, having a therapist is like having a boyfriend where like it's fun until you're like sick of them. And then you're like, I want to be single. I just want my single self. And then you're like having the best time being single. And then it starts getting dark. It starts getting scary. It starts getting lonely. And then you're like, I just want to talk to someone alone sometimes. So, last week, I was just on internet, hitting up a random therapist, getting consultations.

• 5:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, through what medium? What form?

• 5:04Hannah Berner?

  Psychologytoday.com. And then they'd call my home phone. And they'd be like, hey, and I'm like, do you think we're a good fit? And it was pretty traumatizing, but I just want to let people-

• 5:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, rewind, your home phone?

• 5:18Hannah Berner?

  I just wanted to say home phone.

• 5:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, I was like, do you have a home phone? Because I was like, oh, maybe, maybe in the Hamptons, she does have a home phone.

• 5:26Hannah Berner?

  Do you know people still, sometimes when you're filling out forms, it says home phone and cellphone, and I go, grow up.

• 5:33Paige DeSorbo?

  My parents have a home phone.

• 5:34Hannah Berner?

  Do they have a fax? Do you remember when people faxed?

• 5:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Wait, yes, I loved faxing.

• 5:42Hannah Berner?

  That's one of my things I think is like Bluetooth, it's not real. Like, I don't think anyone actually sent a fax.

• 5:47Paige DeSorbo?

  My grandma used to fax a lot of things. And now when I think about it, what was she faxing? And I remember, like, I remember when you would hear a fax come through and she'd be like, don't touch the fax. Because like if you picked up the phone, it would like cancel it out.

• 6:02Hannah Berner?

  Oh, or she didn't want you to touch it because she was doing illegal activity, grandma.

• 6:06Paige DeSorbo?

  All I wanted to do was pick up the phone and like pretend. Wow, bring back faxing.

• 6:12Hannah Berner?

  Bring back faxing. Um, so yeah, anyway, I'm, I'm, I found a therapist I think I like.

• 6:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 6:20Hannah Berner?

  And I had my first therapy session today. It's a person. I highly recommend people-

• 6:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Humans.

• 6:27Hannah Berner?

  For therapy. And I'm excited about where this is gonna go, with us.

• 6:33Paige DeSorbo?

  You know- Therapy does sometimes feel like dating because that like there's nothing worse than breaking up with your therapist. Like, and you stay in it too long and you know that you're in it too long and you're like, I feel like we've outgrown each other, but I don't know how to get out of it because you don't feel like blowing up your life right then and there. And some therapists can be like clingy.

• 6:55Hannah Berner?

  Girl, wait, I had a situation with a therapist where I basically was like, hey, I think I'm done. Like, thank you so much for everything. Love you. Bye. She responds, she goes, okay, that's not how we end things.

• 7:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Love your work.

• 7:08Hannah Berner?

  Love your work. Five stars. I highly recommend. And was my number. And she was like, we need to talk about this. Like, this is so you. And I was to just run away from things and not process your emotions. And I was like, nope, definitely processed it, thought it through. Actually, I was thinking through for a while now and I finally got the guts to get out. And she's like, no, let's have a talk about it. And then she convinced me to do like every other week. And then, and it basically was like really hard to break up with her.

• 7:38Paige DeSorbo?

  No, because sometimes like, obviously, like anything else, life gets so busy, but then you feel like you're in those sessions and you're like, I really don't have anything to talk about. And you're like, I feel like I'm wasting your time. I'm certainly wasting mine. And then those are, but sometimes those are the sessions where like there's some type of like breakthrough from something like years ago that like you wouldn't be talking about today. Do you know what I mean?

• 8:06Hannah Berner?

  I also think therapy is expensive, so occasionally the therapist, look, I'm charming.

• 8:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 8:10Hannah Berner?

  Occasionally, we start riffing on something and in my head, I'm like, that was $200 of like, and low key, like I did make you laugh.

• 8:19Paige DeSorbo?

  We could just do the pod twice a week.

• 8:20Hannah Berner?

  We could have made this a podcast. But also with therapy, traditional talk therapy I learned is not always good for someone like me where all I do is talk. So it's like, I will like ruminate or have like thoughts that I'm like obsessing over. So then sometimes I'll get over it, but then a therapy session will be starting and I'm like, oh shit, do I have to go back into that dark place to talk to her about it when I actually was moving on? So there's other methods of therapy that I've been looking into, like EDM, EDMR.

• 8:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Which is?

• 8:53Hannah Berner?

  ASMR.

• 8:54Paige DeSorbo?

  EDM.

• 8:55Hannah Berner?

  EDM.

• 8:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Diplo. You're gonna start raving.

• 9:01Hannah Berner?

  Ayahuasca.

• 9:04Hannah Berner?

  Um, there's all kinds of ways of things. Miley Cyrus did EDMR. It's basically like when you've been through trauma. It's like a trauma reprocessing thing. I haven't done it yet, so I'll keep you guys posted, but um, I have too much time on my hands this summer.

• 9:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, you're still not explaining it, though. You, like, you go somewhere and you lay down and you listen to things? Okay.

• 9:25Hannah Berner?

  No, I'm just doing virtual therapy, but EMDR, I think like you talk through a hard time and you do something with your eye movements that helps you like reprocess it. Um, but I don't know yet, but I know Miley Cyrus did it, and she's really good at singing.

• 9:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, sometimes, and people don't talk about this, sometimes therapy is hard for me because I have such a bad memory. Like, I'd love to work through something, but like, I literally can't think of, I, I can't remember anything, so I don't know.

• 9:54Hannah Berner?

  I can't imagine you in therapy.

• 9:58Hannah Berner?

  As your therapist? I can't imagine you in therapy. I can't imagine you seriously like talking about something that isn't like good gossip.

• 10:12Hannah Berner?

  Like, you'd be so bored. You're like, "Yeah, I was sad. Tell me about what's going on with you."

• 10:19Hannah Berner?

  Wait, what's your opinion on having a good-looking therapist?

• 10:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, here, well, he, okay, I don't, I-

• 10:27Hannah Berner?

  Okay, are you okay?

• 10:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I- I could never have a, a man therapist.

• 10:34Hannah Berner?

  Well, that's not a therapist. That's just a man who got a degree.

• 10:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I could never have a male therapist, so what are my thoughts on like a pretty therapist? My therapist is pretty. I can only have a pretty therapist. I have to stare at her for an hour. I need her to be gorgeous.

• 10:51Hannah Berner?

  See, I'm like, what have you been through?

• 10:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, yeah, because here's the other thing, like, I used to think, like, when I first started having therapists, I was like, okay, I need someone that's like a mom's age, like, I need someone older, wiser, and as I get older, I need someone that's closer to my age. But then I, but then it's also like, okay, do I trust someone my age?

• 11:16Hannah Berner?

  I think I said this on the, I might have said this on the pod, but I was looking for therapists, and one of the girls, she said that she graduated in 2013, and I go, "You're not good at your job, you just graduated college, babe, with me. We're babies who just graduated," and then I was like, wait, she's been in this field for over a decade.

• 11:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, no, it's like, very jarring, but it's like, yeah, obviously, so yeah, mine is actually very close to my age.

• 11:42Hannah Berner?

  But I did learn about myself by like, who I chose as my therapist, because I tried to be like, honestly, when you get back into dating, where you're like, I'm not just gonna jump into the first person that gives me attention. And I had a couple different ones, and I ended up choosing like, the quirkier one, and I was like, am I the problem?

• 12:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you need something to like,

• 12:02Hannah Berner?

  I want it to be fun.

• 12:03Paige DeSorbo?

  My current therapy, though, that I'm, I'm doing right now, is instead of pancakes for the table, it's ravioli. And everyone seems to be a fan.

• 12:14Hannah Berner?

  Wait, first of all, no one talks about how cute raviolis are. Like adorable for no reason.

• 12:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's the thing, I'm, I've been getting ravioli every single night for dinner, and it's just like, it's starting to be too much, but I can't stray away from it, but I, I feel like I need to try other things. So the other night at dinner, I was like, you know what, mom, I'm just gonna get a ravioli for the table, and whoever wants some can have some, no one had any, and so I, I've, it's just me getting two entrees.

• 12:42Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I do love, just like, when you can't decide, just say one thing's for the table, and eat it for yourself, so you look generous, and you get what you want.

• 12:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Exactly.

• 12:52Hannah Berner?

  But also with ravioli, just to like, support ravioli for a second, is, it comes in all shapes and forms. Like, it's not like, always the same thing, and you could get like, spinach in it, which is healthy.

• 13:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Sometimes I'm getting like, smaller circular ones, and then other times I'm getting fat, square ones.

• 13:08Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god, they're so cute and chubby!

• 13:10Paige DeSorbo?

  And you wanna know what? That's my form of excitement now. As it's coming over to the table, which one is it gonna be?

• 13:18Hannah Berner?

  Is it, is it that thick butt?

• 13:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, am I gonna get those big squares? Or am I gonna get those-

• 13:24Hannah Berner?

  Let me see you walk away, ravioli! Well, I, I love that for you, can you post it next time?

• 13:31Hannah Berner?

  Cause you look beautiful, but I'm gonna need some real content, okay? I'm gonna need some Parmesan.

• 13:37Paige DeSorbo?

  No, definitely.

• 13:38Hannah Berner?

  I have a lot of stuff I wanna talk about. Oh, I have children.

• 13:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I was just gonna say, I think you should start with the most important thing.

• 13:46Hannah Berner?

  For, if you're on YouTube, this is a bonus for you. In the back, you're gonna see, I have all my kittens. You can't see them, but you see where they're living, I'll have Grace bring some to you later. She's with me right now, taking care of the kittens, it's part of her job description. Um, it was crazy, cause Grace came to visit, so I said, "What is the perfect day in West Hampton for Grace?" I said, "We're gonna wake up, we're gonna get coffee, we're gonna go to the animal shelter, we're gonna play some tennis, and we're gonna nap, and pool, and sleep."

• 14:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 14:21Hannah Berner?

  She said yes.

• 14:21Paige DeSorbo?

  My, my dream weekend, okay.

• 14:24Hannah Berner?

  And I will curate that for you, you know, I'm, I have it written out. So, Dez is like, "Okay, I'll drive you guys to the shelter, cause I can't drive."

• 14:34Hannah Berner?

  And we get there, and like-

• 14:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I-

• 14:39Hannah Berner?

  Daddy!

• 14:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, I know you can't drive, but, but I didn't, I don't put you in every context of like, you not driving.

• 14:48Hannah Berner?

  No, when I have to go somewhere, I have to be like, "Hey!"

• 14:51Paige DeSorbo?

  I've never thought about like, you have a friend over, basically, and you have to be like, "Hey, like, we kinda wanna like, go do this like, thing together." And he has to drive you.

• 15:00Hannah Berner?

  "We wanna go to the movies, can you take us?" So he, he takes us, and I was so well behaved, cause this wasn't about me, this trip. This was about Grace, and Grace getting comfortable with different cats, seeing if she likes cats. And I think because I played it so chill and cool. We're talking to Jill, head of South Ampton Animal Shelter Cats, the cat Wrangler. The cat Shaman. And she was like, we have, we're overflowing with kittens right now. We need to get kittens adopted. And I was like, I'll tell the gigglers. She goes, I have a bunch in the, in the back room still that are still getting their shots and stuff. And I go, show me, show me what's going on in the back. Brings me to the back and she goes, we have these three that just came in.

• 15:40Paige DeSorbo?

  It's just a matter of time before you buy one of these places.

• 15:45Hannah Berner?

  I go, how much is the whole place?

• 15:49Hannah Berner?

  I go, fuck the cat. How much is this square footage?

• 15:55Hannah Berner?

  Look, Paige and I have been podcasting a lot lately. I'm gonna put all my Giggly Squad money.

• 16:02Hannah Berner?

  Um, so we're looking at these three cats. They're like, they were found in Bridgehampton and rescued. And we just need someone to foster them for like a week or two. And Des goes, okay, we can foster them. Des has never ever done that, ever.

• 16:20Paige DeSorbo?

  This man loves you.

• 16:22Hannah Berner?

  That is his love language, giving me kittens. And I pretend, I was like, oh, I, I didn't, I wasn't trying to foster any kittens. But if you, if you say so, I will. And now we're, we have three babies.

• 16:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Now you're a proud family of three children.

• 16:39Hannah Berner?

  Right now, the names are Hazelnut, um, Cashew and Peanut, but they're up to debate. Oh, Grace wants to bring one.

• 16:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, bring one in.

• 16:48Hannah Berner?

  If you're not on YouTube, I'm sorry.

• 16:51Paige DeSorbo?

  You're really missing out.

• 16:52Hannah Berner?

  You're really missing out. But our job is to socialize them.

• 16:57Hannah Berner?

  Oh, wait, this shit. Sorry.

• 17:00Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's just the cutest.

• 17:03Hannah Berner?

  That's Peanut.

• 17:05Hannah Berner?

  Do you wanna bring, oh my gosh.

• 17:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Cats are the best.

• 17:08Hannah Berner?

  Do you wanna bring, um, Hazel Nut? Thank you. Next, next up.

• 17:12Paige DeSorbo?

  This is a cat pod.

• 17:14Hannah Berner?

  This is, I was joking, this is like.

• 17:15Paige DeSorbo?

  This is a cat pod, yes.

• 17:16Hannah Berner?

  This is Paige on Amazon Live. And now we have the cutest, literally cutest girl. Her name is Hazel Nut. She is adorable. I bite you.

• 17:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, all of, anything you've ever named has been a food.

• 17:32Hannah Berner?

  I'm obsessed with food names. I'm obsessed with them. But I know what you guys are thinking. Hannah, what about Butter? What about your literal daughter that you had from your womb?

• 17:42Paige DeSorbo?

  No, one thing about you, you stay pissing Butter off.

• 17:46Hannah Berner?

  Butter?

• 17:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Like.

• 17:46Hannah Berner?

  I swear to God, yesterday, we bring the cats, and Grace looks at me, she goes, what's Butter gonna do? I'm gonna say Butter's gonna... I got too excited. Butter goes, can I have a day?

• 18:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, can I have a literal day?

• 18:02Hannah Berner?

  Literal day. So Butter walks in the sunroom, thinking it's a normal day. Sees that there's something going on in this pen. Fl- like, her tail gets all fluffy. And goes, absolutely not, hasn't left my bedroom in two days. And she knows there's something out there and does not wanna know what it is.

• 18:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, that's so...

• 18:26Hannah Berner?

  She's like, I don't.

• 18:27Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so her.

• 18:28Hannah Berner?

  None of my business. She goes, whatever's going on, that's none of my business. I don't wanna know. She's happy, she's...

• 18:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not even getting involved.

• 18:34Hannah Berner?

  I'm not, that's literally, she saw some drama and she said, I've had enough. Like, I don't, I don't care about it. So, um, the family's good over here. How is your family? How's the dynamics on vacation?

• 18:46Paige DeSorbo?

  My family, we have been having a lot of fun. Okay, my brother's girlfriend, thank God for her. Because she has been taking Italian for like a couple of years. So like, anytime we get into a pickle, where like, we don't really know what's going on, she just like comes right in and like starts talking and it's... I mean, I'll never come to Italy without her, like, I'll never not have a translator. She's just, it's so much eas- it's so much, it makes the experience so much better.

• 19:19Hannah Berner?

  Do people come up to you and speak Italian? Cause you, you look so fucking Italian?

• 19:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, well, here's the other thing.

• 19:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Everyone, I think legitimately does think that we speak Italian because so many people go up to my mom and start speaking Italian. But then like I'll see other Americans where like, and they'll just go up and start like speaking English. And so we do feel a little bit better than people here because they do, I think they do think that we're authentic.

• 19:49Hannah Berner?

  You are in your homeland.

• 19:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, so that makes us feel better.

• 19:55Paige DeSorbo?

  This place is just like, there's so many crazy things. Like the other night, we're walking back from dinner. Actually, Ciara, it was the night Ciara was here and she came to dinner with us. And we're walking back and we're just like, is that Elton John playing? Like, like the island is not big. So like anywhere he, and yes, it was. Elton John was performing in the back of our hotel at like a party and we were like, what is going on? And it was just a really, just a really low key baptism.

• 20:31Hannah Berner?

  That's so Italian.

• 20:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I thought someone was gonna be like, oh, it's a wedding.

• 20:38Hannah Berner?

  That's their quinceañera, like a baptism in Italy. They're like, this shit's about to be lit. Cause God is, I don't know what they do at baptisms, but God's coming. Wait, did he play Tiny Dancer? I hope he did.

• 20:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, so I didn't hear that one, but I heard him play like three songs.

• 20:54Hannah Berner?

  So it was a lit baptism?

• 20:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, it was like the crazy, I was like, what is this experience that we're having right now? And then I saw our charades partner in the pool the other day.

• 21:06Hannah Berner?

  Tell me everything.

• 21:08Paige DeSorbo?

  So I'm, so I literally get in the pool and I'm like with my family and all of a sudden this man swims by and I'm like, I think that's Patrick Schwartz.

• 21:17Hannah Berner?

  Wait, he was like, who swims in a pool? Who actually swims?

• 21:22Paige DeSorbo?

  I felt like I was at, I felt like I was at summer camp where I'm like, hey, I went to camp with like,

• 21:27Hannah Berner?

  Hey, are your parents divorced? My parents are divorced.

• 21:31Paige DeSorbo?

  He comes up from the water. He takes his goggles off.

• 21:35Hannah Berner?

  He spit in my face. She went to go in the hot tub, I heard.

• 21:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly, it was giving White Lotus season two. Like we were in Italy, we're in this pool. I'm like, what's going on? I'm like, hi. And he looks at me and he's like, hi. And I was like, I was on Jimmy Fallon with you. And he was like, oh yeah. And then.

• 21:56Paige DeSorbo?

  We just started chatting and then like other people in the pool were just like, it was just a very interesting experience. It was just so funny.

• 22:03Hannah Berner?

  Well, it's funny because that was the reaction Jon Hamm had with me, who I've seen forty-seven times this year. But it's like when they see you in different random places, like he was at the New York Library.

• 22:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 22:15Hannah Berner?

  And I just go, "Oh, hi." And he looks at me like, "Hi." And I go, "I beat you in charades." And he goes, "Oh."

• 22:22Paige DeSorbo?

  How is that not burnt into your brain?

• 22:24Hannah Berner?

  I know you just got over it with your therapist, but let's bring it back.

• 22:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:29Hannah Berner?

  But Patrick was so friendly with us. Like, I actually felt like we were best friends. And when he left, I was like, "Okay, like, what do we do without Patrick now?"

• 22:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. Well, he's vacationing. He's doing well. He's on vacation.

• 22:42Hannah Berner?

  The amount of people that are probably making stupid jokes about White Lotus to him about, like, drinking milkshakes. I feel bad for him.

• 22:49Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I literally, that is all I was thinking because then he like got-

• 22:53Hannah Berner?

  Don't do it. Don't do it.

• 22:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Then he got out of the pool and I could tell, like, certain people were going up and being like, "Hey, like, huge fan," or whatever. And I was like, the amount of White Lotus jokes that people probably think are so original that are being just yelled at this man all day long. Um, but yeah, so that-

• 23:09Hannah Berner?

  He can't go on vacation again. Well, good for him.

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• 24:26Hannah Berner?

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• 24:29Paige DeSorbo?

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• 24:30Hannah Berner?

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• 24:41Paige DeSorbo?

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• 24:52Hannah Berner?

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• 24:54Paige DeSorbo?

  They're so big, like they're

• 24:57Hannah Berner?

  And they're like, good quality.

• 24:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and they're like, yeah, I'll put me and my whole family in this towel.

• 25:03Hannah Berner?

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• 25:14Paige DeSorbo?

  I have a navy blue one. It's always with me because it's small enough that like you can throw it in your bag, but it is warm enough that you don't need another piece.

• 25:23Hannah Berner?

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• 25:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I should.

• 25:27Hannah Berner?

  And they have really good like leather bags and jewelry. Like literally anything you want is at Quince.

• 25:33Paige DeSorbo?

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• 27:57Hannah Berner?

  Let's discuss on the docket.

• 27:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 28:00Hannah Berner?

  Do you think it's a coincidence that we went on the Today Show, a week later, Hoda announced her retirement? Then we finally meet Anna Wintour at an event about a month ago, and now she has announced her retirement. Are we the Black Widows?

• 28:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Are we okay?

• 28:20Hannah Berner?

  Are we the problem?

• 28:23Hannah Berner?

  Because I've been, I've been working with my therapist on, on, you know, going inward. Am I the problem here?

• 28:28Paige DeSorbo?

  We make everyone quit their jobs.

• 28:32Hannah Berner?

  She saw us at that event and she goes, "And the industry's done."

• 28:38Hannah Berner?

  She goes, "Who are you?" Okay, I gotta go. Yeah, I'm, I'm, she was like seen at a bar, just like drinking.

• 28:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I saw that on Instagram. I was like, that is...

• 28:50Hannah Berner?

  She's like, "I've actually been sober my whole life, but I'm gonna relapse after meeting Hannah Page at the New York Public Library." Hannah, if you talk to Jon Hamm one more time, I'm gonna lose it.

• 28:59Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I couldn't believe she was stepping down. Do you wanna know why? What shocked me the most? This is like so, has nothing to do with anything. When it said like, "Oh, after 37 years," I was like, "Oh, she seems like the type of person that would have wanted to retire on like an even number, like at like 40."

• 29:23Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, "37 doesn't seem like a...

• 29:25Hannah Berner?

  You go, "That doesn't seem chic." Okay, interesting. Wait, that's so you to care about those things. That is so you.

• 29:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, "But wouldn't the headline sound better like, 'A 40 years'?"

• 29:38Hannah Berner?

  You go, "Obviously, the press release was gonna say 37." And it's kind of an ugly number. 37 is kinda ugly.

• 29:45Paige DeSorbo?

  37 is like such an ugly number.

• 29:47Hannah Berner?

  Wait, you're seven in general, like gag.

• 29:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Gross.

• 29:51Hannah Berner?

  But 38 is, is giving elevated editorial. 38. 38. That is like when you have an-

• 30:00Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so true.

• 30:01Hannah Berner?

  When you have an uneven birthday, everyone's like, "I'm not celebrating your 33rd birthday."

• 30:05Paige DeSorbo?

  And why do I feel like 33 is like overweight?

• 30:08Hannah Berner?

  Oh, the number? I would like to just...

• 30:13Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like 33, the number is like, it looks overweight, like it's overweight. But 34, 34 jogs.

• 30:21Hannah Berner?

  Yes, 34-

• 30:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Like runs.

• 30:23Hannah Berner?

  Dabbles in Pilates.

• 30:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 30:29Hannah Berner?

  And everyone in their twenties, you're doing great.

• 30:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it doesn't even count.

• 30:34Hannah Berner?

  You'll be fine.

• 30:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, literally it doesn't count.

• 30:35Hannah Berner?

  It doesn't count. Um, I was talking to someone yesterday about fashion, because that's what I do, as you know. People were like, Hannah, tell me about Paige's fashion. And I'm like, I will. And we were talking about how I feel like there's two types of girls. Girls that either own like a ton of tops, or girls who own a ton of bottoms.

• 30:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 30:59Hannah Berner?

  I realize I own neither.

• 31:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 31:03Hannah Berner?

  You know, some people who were like, yeah, I have my jeans, like I have a couple jeans, but like I love buying a ton of tops.

• 31:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I have way more tops than I do bottoms.

• 31:12Hannah Berner?

  I feel like I never even think about bottoms. I just like assume it's there. And then like six years later, I'm like, oh, I should get new jeans.

• 31:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Pants.

• 31:20Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 31:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 31:21Hannah Berner?

  I just assume the bottoms figure itself out.

• 31:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm always, I'm, I'm always having a tough time finding pants where I feel like I love so many shirts.

• 31:31Hannah Berner?

  Hmm.

• 31:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, I need that top.

• 31:33Hannah Berner?

  Well, people make fun of millennials because we were obsessed with going out tops.

• 31:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, we love tops.

• 31:39Hannah Berner?

  Now we don't really know what like a going out top is. But blazers are back, which that was all us.

• 31:46Paige DeSorbo?

  What are?

• 31:47Hannah Berner?

  Blazers, just like wearing oversized blazers all the time.

• 31:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Where they, I don't feel like they went anywhere.

• 31:54Hannah Berner?

  But like going out wise, I feel like girls weren't wearing blazers.

• 31:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. Like not when we were in college, no.

• 32:03Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, with like our little skirts. Have you heard it's sardine girl summer?

• 32:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you see my fish bag?

• 32:10Hannah Berner?

  Paige, that was the best accessory I've ever seen. Like the second I saw it.

• 32:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Wasn't it so cool?

• 32:16Hannah Berner?

  It was so cool. It was so good for Italy, the aesthetic, the vibes were amazing. How'd you find it?

• 32:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, this is actually gonna be a very funny story.

• 32:27Hannah Berner?

  I've been waiting all day for you to ask about my bag, how I found it.

• 32:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Because it's so not me and I don't want you to get jealous because. You're my best friend and no one could ever take your place. So, one day I was like on Instagram and I'm just like scroll, or maybe I was on TikTok. I don't know, I think I was on Instagram and I was just like scrolling and I like saw this girl and I was just like, wait, this girl's like so, like I just like like this girl and so like I would keep like always like looking at her Instagram pictures and I'd be like, oh my god, she's like such cool style. And then like I was watching her videos and I was like,

• 33:01Hannah Berner?

  Are you sure this wasn't my profile?

• 33:04Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like I would be like friends with this girl. And that's like so not me.

• 33:10Hannah Berner?

  You're creepy. You mean a creep.

• 33:12Paige DeSorbo?

  That is so not me, so whatever, so I DM'd her.

• 33:15Hannah Berner?

  I've never wanted to be friends with anyone.

• 33:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I was having a parasocial relationship, I was like, in my head, this is what this girl is like in real life and I feel like we would be friends. So whatever, I message her and we start like chatting. And like I, and I was like, yeah, like kinda like her. We've never like met in person and we've never like, it's like a slow burn type of thing, but she, she came out with bags and she was like, can I send you one? And I was like, absolutely. And so it got there like right before I left for Italy and when it got there, I was like, this is the sickest bag ever. The company is called the Vin, V I N.

• 33:55Paige DeSorbo?

  And so that's how I have it.

• 33:56Hannah Berner?

  Can you put your phone in it? Depends on the phone.

• 34:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Could, did I put my phone in it? I think I did, depends on the phone. I actually don't know if I put my phone in it.

• 34:08Hannah Berner?

  But not important.

• 34:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Not important. But I have a suction cup phone, so I can stick it, I stuck it right to the bag.

• 34:15Hannah Berner?

  You go to a restaurant, you just stick it on something?

• 34:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm good.

• 34:18Hannah Berner?

  No, it's so cute.

• 34:20Paige DeSorbo?

  So cute.

• 34:21Hannah Berner?

  I love Sardine Girl Summer. I feel like it's very eclectic, grandpa.

• 34:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm very into it.

• 34:28Hannah Berner?

  Anything with fish or food?

• 34:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, actually, speaking of fish.

• 34:36Paige DeSorbo?

  So there's so many like stray cats around here and like the past couple of years, I've like seen them, but now that I'm like a full cat mom, now I like, I really spot them and I feel like they've like also been giving me the same energy back. I even tonight was like, oh, should I order? Like, cause the restaurant we had to go to tonight, we had to take, it was like a really long walk. And I saw like four different cats. I'm literally sitting at the dinner table and in my head, I'm like, should I order a fish? So that like, if I don't eat it all, I can like, put some in my hand and on my way back.

• 35:13Paige DeSorbo?

  I can give it to a cat and I was like, oh my god.

• 35:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god, I have entered a whole new era.

• 35:24Hannah Berner?

  Um Paige, you texted me a couple of days ago, out of the blue. Do you follow Merv the cat on TikTok?

• 35:36Hannah Berner?

  I was like, oh, she's, she's in deep. She's, this is, I thought you were gonna text me something important. Do you follow Merv the cat on TikTok?

• 35:45Paige DeSorbo?

  All my TikTok is cats.

• 35:47Hannah Berner?

  Alert the UN!

• 35:47Paige DeSorbo?

  No, my whole TikTok is cats and Capri pants. Different ways to wear Capri pants and cats. Merv the cat is one of the best cats ever. I'm obsessed with her. She, it's...

• 36:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, did I then do like a 40 minute deep dive on Merv? Yes, Merv is Siamese and Merv speaks to its owner.

• 36:08Paige DeSorbo?

  And my only complaint about Merv, they don't post enough. I need more. I want, I want so much more content.

• 36:16Hannah Berner?

  You want a live feed of Merv?

• 36:21Hannah Berner?

  Well, that's how I feel of your food content in Italy, that you're like, literally holding back.

• 36:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Literally gatekeeping. Okay, I'm gonna actually, I'm gonna post so much food tomorrow.

• 36:30Hannah Berner?

  Um.

• 36:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait!

• 36:32Hannah Berner?

  What?

• 36:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, so.

• 36:35Hannah Berner?

  What?

• 36:36Paige DeSorbo?

  When it comes to this trip, my mom pretty much plans like, and we're not like active, like, we're not sightseeing people, like, I've never learned the history of any, anything here. Like, I literally just know the restaurants. We lay in the pool and then we go to restaurants. So my mom pretty much does all the restaurant reservations. And I don't know, I saw this like, one restaurant on TikTok or something and I sent it and I was like, oh, like, let's for one of the nights try this like, new place that we haven't been to before. And it's like a Michelin star restaurant and I think it's gonna be like, a really fun experience. It was so bad that it actually made the dinner so fun. Like, it was so funny.

• 37:20Hannah Berner?

  Was it like a bit? Like, it became a bit?

• 37:23Paige DeSorbo?

  It became a bit. Like, it became a full bit that like, how could we possibly have found a bad restaurant in Italy? And then, of course, it's like, well, Paige found it. Like, it was just-

• 37:35Hannah Berner?

  And also, it has a Michelin star. Like, the whole point of Michelin star is being like, we vetted it. It's definitely great.

• 37:42Paige DeSorbo?

  It's definitely, yeah, it's the best in the world. It was so bad.

• 37:45Hannah Berner?

  It's so dad-coded, though. Dads hate fancy restaurants. My dad's favorite thing to do is go to fancy restaurant and then go, can we go to McDonald's now? I'm hungry. I'm hungry. Can we get a pizza?

• 37:59Paige DeSorbo?

  We added a person to our reservation because Sierra came, and the hostess was like, a little bit snippy about it. And she was like, well, I don't know if we can accommodate it. And my dad was already pissed off that we were going to this restaurant. Then he goes, well, then I don't have to eat.

• 38:15Hannah Berner?

  I literally went in bad.

• 38:17Paige DeSorbo?

  So dramatic. He literally looked at our family and goes, I'm, I don't need to eat if you guys need the other place. And my mom was like, what? Like, what are you talking about? He's so dramatic.

• 38:28Hannah Berner?

  I love to see who becomes the diva in the family when, because everyone has their own triggers. And on vacation, everything will eventually trigger someone. So to see who's having the meltdown of the night is so funny.

• 38:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Our family dynamic is funny because my dad's obsessed with me. My mom is obsessed with my brother. My brother doesn't give a shit about my mom. And I am like, breaking generational trauma with my dad.

• 39:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, let's work on something for today. How do we feel about?

• 39:04Hannah Berner?

  Is it because you feel like you and Gary are so similar? And you've done some therapy, so you're like, hey, you don't need to take this note, but I have notes.

• 39:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, well, I, well, my dad has anxiety. Like, my dad has severe anxiety, and I don't think that that's ever crossed his mind.

• 39:22Hannah Berner?

  So you have to explain what anxiety is?

• 39:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, because, and because I'm like, okay, you know, for example, when we get to the airport, you all of a sudden get really nervous.

• 39:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, that is anxiety.

• 39:39Hannah Berner?

  Explaining to an Italian man what anxiety is is so fucking cute.

• 39:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, wait, I'm gonna say something else. And I hate to say it. I hate to say it. And I'm not a mom. I'm not a mom.

• 39:54Paige DeSorbo?

  The amount of ma- of nannies here is, it's like, it's so crazy. Like, I don't, I don't, actually, I haven't seen one mom. I don't know where any of the moms are.

• 40:06Hannah Berner?

  They're at the pool, they're drunk somewhere.

• 40:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Seen are the kids and the nannies, and it's so... It's so insane. And then after traveling with my parents, I'm like, I can travel with a kid if I can travel with you two.

• 40:19Hannah Berner?

  Or you might need a nanny for your parents.

• 40:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, they're like having twins.

• 40:23Hannah Berner?

  That's so funny. Actually, I was at a coffee shop recently and this baby walks in, and look.

• 40:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, the baby didn't walk in.

• 40:35Paige DeSorbo?

  It was carried.

• 40:36Hannah Berner?

  Let's be honest, the ba- baby was in a-

• 40:37Paige DeSorbo?

  The baby was strolled in, yeah.

• 40:39Hannah Berner?

  Yes, and the, this was a baby where like, you know when you make eye contact and you go, oh, you're a cute one? Like, you're actually really cute. And then, for some reason, in our DNA, it's our job to tell the mother that their baby is like, actually a cute one.

• 40:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 40:53Hannah Berner?

  So I'm walking by and the mom starts like smiling when she sees me, and I just go, by the way, like, your kid is really cute. And she goes, by the way, I'm a giggler. By the way, not my kid, I'm the nanny. And I was like, oh my god, like, you just never know who's who. And I go, well, good thing you're nannying of not an ugly kid, because that makes it better, hopefully.

• 41:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I've been watching some of the nannies and I'm like,

• 41:19Paige DeSorbo?

  you deserve a Nobel Peace Prize. That's a crazy tantrum. And you can't even like really yell at that kid because it's not yours?

• 41:27Hannah Berner?

  Nannying is so hard, because I also want everyone to like me. So like, when I'm with a kid, we, we, I was babysitting Dez's niece. No, sorry, nephew. I always get it confused. But he's like a full teenager. And he, teenage boys are crazy. Like, he started, there were like cat toys around for butter. He started just like playing with the cat toys. Like a cat, like throwing it around. I was like, you just give him some balls and they like chase it.

• 41:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Were you ever a babysitter in high school?

• 42:00Hannah Berner?

  Yes, I did a lot of babysitting and I was- The moms liked me because I would get the tea from like the like 10 to 12 year olds. I'd be like, who are we dating? Like they'd trust me, but I would let them do literally anything like crystal meth. I'd be like, as long as I'm here, like.

• 42:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I remember one time I went in to like buy cupcakes somewhere. Like, I don't know, that was like in high school. I was probably buying it for like a boy or something. I was very male centered then. Um, and I remember standing at the counter and I was like in my school uniform and the person like behind the counter was like, hey, any chance you like babysit? And I literally remember being like, ew.

• 42:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And I literally, I looked at this woman and I go, no. Cause she was like, oh, how old are you? And I was like 17. I was like a senior in high school and she was like, oh my God, any chance you babysit? And I was like, ew, no.

• 42:54Hannah Berner?

  You looked at her and you say, you can't afford me. You can't afford this.

• 42:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, I would not trust me with your children. No.

• 43:00Hannah Berner?

  I was more like teaching tennis, but occasionally like one of my friends had like a crazy entrepreneurial babysitting business, like ran Shelter Island in the summer. And she was like, hey, girl dropped out, need you from four to six. And I'm like, and she's like, I'll give you 50 bucks. And I said, period, let's go. I go in, but some of these kids were crazy. Like one of the kids called me a slut once.

• 43:23Hannah Berner?

  Cause these kids don't know you. And you know what? I said, you saw it into my soul. But we have, we have Des's nephew staying with us and suddenly like I realized like I'm not just like his friend. Like he's looking at me like I'm a mom. So in the morning he comes up to me and he's like, what is there to eat? And I was like, go hunt something. Who do I look like? You're not sucking on my tit.

• 43:47Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like at Uber Eats.

• 43:49Hannah Berner?

  I was like, figure it out. And then I'm like, oh my God, because 16 year olds seem like adults, but then I realized like he has a mom who feeds him every morning. So he looked at me like, where's my food? And I was like, go fishing. I don't know. I'm trying to figure out what I'm having. Do I want a latte? Do I want matcha? I'm dealing with my own shit.

• 44:07Paige DeSorbo?

  No, the moms need more praise because I don't know how they're doing it.

• 44:13Hannah Berner?

  Well, this is the thing, not to, we always get back here, but it's the first time ever where like moms, we, I say we.

• 44:22Hannah Berner?

  I am right now. We have our own jobs. We're doing everything and expected to also keep like the house and to cook? No, no.

• 44:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Too much.

• 44:33Hannah Berner?

  But that's why I think the nanny business is like getting crazy competitive. Like people try to steal each other's nannies in like high society in New York City.

• 44:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I need more of the nannies to write books.

• 44:45Hannah Berner?

  I want Uber drivers and nannies to like be so fucking for real.

• 44:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Before social media, like I wish there had been a reality show like about nanny. I mean, they would could never do it now. It would never work, but.

• 44:57Hannah Berner?

  Do you remember that one with that like mean British nanny that would come in?

• 45:01Paige DeSorbo?

  And like discipline your children. She'd be immediately canceled today.

• 45:05Hannah Berner?

  She was so mean and there was this little.

• 45:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Never, people would never let that fly.

• 45:09Hannah Berner?

  Did you see the clip of the seven year old who had a mohawk who goes, I don't like her. She doesn't like punk rock. I think she's a Republican.

• 45:22Hannah Berner?

  Or they would like switch, I forget what the show was, but that shit was hilarious.

• 45:27Paige DeSorbo?

  When they would switch moms.

• 45:29Hannah Berner?

  When they switch moms. Yeah. And then you're like, Mom, I take back everything I said about you.

• 45:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, one thing I wanted to say and I I'm I'm so proud of us for like when we have a certain opinion and we like really stick to it. Like I feel like I was very pro Jojo Siwa when people were like, she's so annoying and like, what does she do? She thinks she's like, she has a false sense of reality. And I just like, there was something in me that I was just like, no, I, I really want good things for her. Like let her dance and whatever.

• 46:05Hannah Berner?

  Let her dance.

• 46:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm obsessed with this era of Jojo Siwa. I watched a full TikTok of her making a charcuterie board where everything was red. And I was like, never did I think I'd be here in 2025 where I'm watching Jojo Siwa cut out strawberries in the shape of a heart for a charcuterie board for her boyfriend. And I love it. I love it so much.

• 46:32Hannah Berner?

  You know why?

• 46:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I stuck with you through the thick of it.

• 46:36Hannah Berner?

  We forget, and I could be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure for the younger, younger generation, Jojo Siwa was like their Hannah Montana. Like, Jojo Siwa was huge. Like, the biggest thing, like selling out arenas, just like being Jojo Siwa.

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• 49:36Hannah Berner?

  I have two documentaries you guys have to watch.

• 49:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Are you, if you're gonna say the Mariska Hargitay one, I need to know everything. Did you watch it?

• 49:44Hannah Berner?

  Obviously, I watched it. I literally-

• 49:45Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I need to know everything.

• 49:48Hannah Berner?

  Poor Grace, because she's here like to relax. And the second we finished dinner, I go, "It's documentary time. Sit down on the couch. We have two new documentaries to watch."

• 49:57Paige DeSorbo?

  You run a tight ship at your camp. You run a tight ship at your summer camp.

• 50:02Hannah Berner?

  Also, we had, we got into a little fight because one of the nights, I went to go pee, come back, she's gone. And I was like, "Wait, that's so weird and rude."

• 50:16Paige DeSorbo?

  She literally didn't want to hang out anymore and she, she-

• 50:18Hannah Berner?

  Like she escaped, like she waited for me to leave and was like, "It's my time to get out." So the next day, it's the morning-

• 50:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I'm so proud of her. That is so me-coded. Like, "Oh, I'll be right back. See ya."

• 50:31Hannah Berner?

  See, no, if you did that, I'd be like, "And she was done." With Grace, I was like, "We don't do that in this relationship." So we're spending like a normal morning. I think we went to get smoothies and we're drinking smoothies. And I just look at her and I go, "By the way, you didn't take a night off that night."

• 50:49Hannah Berner?

  I said, can I talk to you for a second? Why didn't you say goodnight to me? And she looks at me and she goes, you know, it's crazy. I, I was walking down the stairs and I said, goodnight and you didn't respond. So I thought you were being weird. And I was like, I didn't hear you.

• 51:03Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's why, and that's why as adults, we talk things out.

• 51:06Hannah Berner?

  And we talk things out. So anyway, forced her to watch the documentary. Mariska Harkitay, badass star of SVU.

• 51:16Hannah Berner?

  Had her mom was basically like Marilyn Monroe, less famous, but of the time of blonde bombshell, definitely inspired by Marilyn Monroe.

• 51:31Paige DeSorbo?

  And I would say just as pretty. I mean gorgeous.

• 51:33Hannah Berner?

  Gorgeous. Also, a tale as old as time, a like genius, she spoke like five languages, was like a classical violin, violin player. And she died when Mariska was three years old in a car accident.

• 51:50Paige DeSorbo?

  And she was in the car, right?

• 51:52Hannah Berner?

  The kids were in the car. The whole family's in the car. The three kids were in the back. She was sitting in the back, decided to move to the front. And then the two boys were saved. And as they wake up from like their concussion or whatever, and they're on the way to the hospital, they go, where's our sister? They go back. Mariska was lodged like in between cushions and they almost left her there to die. If her brother didn't wake up, she would have been dead and we would never would have had SVU.

• 52:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you know one thing I love about Mariska Harkitay? Do you know that she met her husband on the set of Law and Order?

• 52:28Hannah Berner?

  Wait, he's hot. He's a daddy.

• 52:30Paige DeSorbo?

  She tells this story where like her friends were like, you're never gonna meet anyone. Like you don't go out, like you have to go out, like you have to put yourself out there. And she was like, no, like literally, I'm not. Like I'll meet someone like they were like, he's not gonna just like walk into your life. And she said literally when she saw her husband like walk onto set, she was like, that's my husband.

• 52:50Hannah Berner?

  What's so spectacular about this documentary too, is because she has very complicated relationship with her mom. She doesn't remember her. But when you grow up with a famous mom, there's tons of footage and tons of magazine articles. And what she was always told is don't read what they say about your mom. It's not true. Which it's giving, don't watch mom's TikToks.

• 53:14Hannah Berner?

  That's not her legacy.

• 53:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god.

• 53:17Hannah Berner?

  But she realizes that the mom and the boys talk about it.

• 53:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, can I just say, one of the bits on my family vacation that people are just saying and then laughing about is that I'm a New York Times bestselling author.

• 53:31Hannah Berner?

  That is so your family to be like, you know, it's fucking hilarious that you're that you're a New York Times bestselling author, you loser.

• 53:43Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so my family coded. My mom looks at me and goes, I mean, really, are you though?

• 53:51Hannah Berner?

  They will keep you humble.

• 53:53Paige DeSorbo?

  They will, they keep me down to the ground.

• 53:55Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, no one brings it up in my family and if it is brought up, someone goes, and your mom wrote it.

• 54:03Paige DeSorbo?

  No one takes me seriously.

• 54:05Hannah Berner?

  No one takes me seriously either. Um, so yeah, her mom, the brother was saying that she would put on a voice in interviews that wasn't like his mom, which was her being like dumb blonde and cute.

• 54:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like had a persona.

• 54:19Hannah Berner?

  Yes, and the interviews were so annoying, like, but the men just wanted to like sexualize her, obviously, and that's what was working for her. She wanted to be a serious actor. It wasn't working, da da da. I don't want to give it away, but if you watch the end, Mariska also learns stuff about who she is and her mom that she didn't expect. And she goes through all these emotions of like, do I hate my mom? Am I mad at my mom? Do I love my mom? And then by the end, you realize that they are so similar. And it's like really beautiful and emotional. You're gonna cry.

• 54:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I can't wait to wa- I'm so behind on all my shows. I'm behind on Love Island. My new show Buccaneers started, I'm behind. Gilded Age started. I mean, it's, that's just too much. I can't get through any of it.

• 55:09Hannah Berner?

  It's good. It means you're having fun on vacation.

• 55:11Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I actually, I'm like finally relaxing. Like it took, it takes me like a couple of days on vacation to get relaxed.

• 55:21Hannah Berner?

  It took me like three weeks out here before I finally was like, like not a cat scared waking up in the morning.

• 55:32Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and like this is, I mean, this is the first year that I don't have to like go and like pack and go film.

• 55:38Hannah Berner?

  And plan and like pre-strategize. Um, and then the next documentary you guys have to watch on HBO Barbara Walters.

• 55:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, wow. Wait, I didn't even know they were doing one on her.

• 55:53Hannah Berner?

  Neither did I. As two women who interview people and who are journalists, it's so fascinating. Cause the times were so different back then. First of all, being a woman in the news wasn't a thing. They were like, women aren't gonna give the news. I'm not listening to the news from a lady.

• 56:16Hannah Berner?

  Which is hilarious because I've never asked my dad what's going on and my mom's texting me a hundred times like, you're gonna die if you eat the cabbage from Trader Joe's.

• 56:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I, can I just say, I remember, I remember being little and seeing Barbara Walters come on like the screen. Like for the first time, like when I was little and can I just say, she used to scare the shit out of me.

• 56:39Hannah Berner?

  No, I was gonna say, if you saw Barbara Walters on the screen, someone was in motherfucking trouble.

• 56:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Like anytime she'd come up on the screen, I would just like immediately, I was one of those men. I was like, I'm not gonna listen to the news from this lady.

• 56:55Hannah Berner?

  So she basically inspired everyone, like Oprah. And Hoda and like Katie Couric, oh, Katie, our girl.

• 57:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 57:07Hannah Berner?

  She said the funniest thing that Barbara went up to her once and was like, you remind me of me because we're not that pretty.

• 57:17Hannah Berner?

  Okay, just call me Miranda. Okay, Paige.

• 57:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god.

• 57:21Hannah Berner?

  I think she was like referring to like a lot of the girls on the news are just like, were like picked because they were models or actresses where like Barbara was like, I'm really, I'm smart.

• 57:31Paige DeSorbo?

  A journalist.

• 57:32Hannah Berner?

  I'm an, yeah, a real journalist. But then it talks about her like jealousy with Diane Sawyer when Diane Sawyer came into the game. Cause Diane was like younger and blonde. And it is kind of crazy how it doesn't matter how successful you are. Life is about perspective and you could either make it like, this one person is coming for me. Or you can like be grateful for what you have type of mental health moment.

• 58:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, well, I will say for how much we de-center men and we think that they are like the root of all the problems, which like they usually are. But no one hates on a woman more than another fucking woman.

• 58:12Hannah Berner?

  I thought you were gonna say than herself.

• 58:14Paige DeSorbo?

  No, well, that's honestly, that's a close second.

• 58:16Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 58:17Paige DeSorbo?

  But like, all of your mean comments are from, like, men don't ever comment mean shit on, it's all women.

• 58:24Hannah Berner?

  Men don't take down other men.

• 58:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No, they don't. No, they don't.

• 58:32Hannah Berner?

  But like, no, they stick together.

• 58:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and only time a woman's getting torn down is like another woman's

• 58:38Hannah Berner?

  Decided.

• 58:39Paige DeSorbo?

  making the video, doing the comment. Yeah, it's not, yeah, that's very interesting.

• 58:45Hannah Berner?

  Oprah talks about how Barbara Walters was amazing at networking, so it was all about your relationships with people. So when something would happen, that person would then get, you know, fruit baskets from every single news station and they had to decide, who are we giving the interview to? Nowadays, there's no like the interview, because everyone has social media, but back then it was like popcorn television, the Monica Lewinsky interview, who's interviewing her? And back then journalism was more like, if you do an interview, you have to get hard questions. It can't just be like a puff piece.

• 59:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, Barbara Walters was a bitch.

• 59:20Hannah Berner?

  Barbara Walters, definitely looking back, like she said some crazy shit. She looked at

• 59:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Crazy shit.

• 59:26Hannah Berner?

  She looked at Bette Midler and she was like, from one to 10, how attractive do you think you are?

• 59:32Paige DeSorbo?

  No, she said some outlandish shit.

• 59:36Hannah Berner?

  But she was amazing at getting people, like she would settle them in and then like out of nowhere, get them with a zinger where they like weren't prepared.

• 59:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Imagine her, imagine her hosting Secret Lives of Mormon Wives reunion.

• 59:57Hannah Berner?

  That's where your brain was. Give her a soda and let her go.

• 1:00:02Paige DeSorbo?

  What reunion should she host? We can't replace Andy. We'll go over there.

• 1:00:07Hannah Berner?

  Secret wise.

• 1:00:09Paige DeSorbo?

  That would be amazing.

• 1:00:11Hannah Berner?

  And then, what's cool about her is as she got older, when the industry was kinda like, we're over you. You know, she created The View.

• 1:00:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I actually did know that.

• 1:00:22Hannah Berner?

  It extended her career by like at least 15 years. And she was like, I want to do a talk show of women of multiple generations. So, I mean, she's a badass. They did also say that she prioritized work over everything, including like, everything.

• 1:00:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Child.

• 1:00:36Hannah Berner?

  Having a child. Oh yeah, her child. She did have a child, but she... Oh, you know about Barbara?

• 1:00:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I know about, yeah. I know about Barbara a little bit.

• 1:00:45Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, so...

• 1:00:46Paige DeSorbo?

  I think honestly, I know about her because she used to scare me. So I feel like I had to know that.

• 1:00:53Hannah Berner?

  Keep your enemies close.

• 1:00:56Paige DeSorbo?

  If I ever come into contact with Barbara Walters, I had to be prepared.

• 1:01:00Hannah Berner?

  Stop, drop and roll.

• 1:01:03Hannah Berner?

  Don't make any sudden movements.

• 1:01:05Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what's interesting? I'm part of the problem because I actually did enjoy Diane Sawyer a little bit more than Barbara Walters.

• 1:01:12Hannah Berner?

  Also, you're part of the problem because you're hating on her right now. Another woman hating another woman. There we go.

• 1:01:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Dead.

• 1:01:20Hannah Berner?

  Okay, don't call her that.

• 1:01:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, sorry. And that was the ultimate insult and I didn't mean that. That's actually, that was too dark. But I just meant like, she's not gonna know that I'm saying this.

• 1:01:30Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, she's gonna know. I mean, her spirit lingers on. Um, speaking of reunions and stuff, what do you think about Donna Kelsey on The Traitors?

• 1:01:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, if she wants to do it, amazing. I'm hoping though that someone like fully explained what she just signed up for. Because I'm like...

• 1:01:50Hannah Berner?

  Elder abuse?

• 1:01:51Paige DeSorbo?

  I picture her as just like a nice, regular like mom, like who...

• 1:01:56Hannah Berner?

  I would never let my mother do reality TV. I do think Traitors is like not as bad as like a traditional show, but like, leave my mom alone. They're gonna, I haven't watched, but don't they make them do like crazy things?

• 1:02:11Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you're doing like challenges.

• 1:02:13Hannah Berner?

  Can Taylor Swift just cut her a check and be like, stay home, relax?

• 1:02:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you want to know what the craziest part is, is with traders? You're going there, they're taking all of your stuff, like you don't have a phone, you don't have a computer because they don't want you guys ever to be able to like contact each other. But it's like, okay.

• 1:02:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, maybe they would follow the rules. I don't see people like not following that rule, especially like you're getting paid to be on a show.

• 1:02:41Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:42Paige DeSorbo?

  And you can't like, you have no connection to the outside world, so you can't ever like call home. You can't watch TV at night because you don't have your computer.

• 1:02:53Hannah Berner?

  She's a mom and she has like fully forty year old children.

• 1:02:56Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's why I wouldn't do it. Like, I'm not doing that. I'm not not watching my shows for three weeks.

• 1:03:05Hannah Berner?

  Wait, you can't watch TV?

• 1:03:07Paige DeSorbo?

  No, because it's like you're in Scotland and like what TV?

• 1:03:10Hannah Berner?

  They don't have TVs in Scotland, yeah.

• 1:03:12Paige DeSorbo?

  And you're gonna watch the local TV in Scotland? What are you watching?

• 1:03:17Hannah Berner?

  You're like, I can't speak Scottish. I'm not, I don't know what's going on. Need a translator.

• 1:03:22Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I just like, I'm, I'm at an age where I can't be uncomfortable. I really can't. I so resonate with that, resonate with that. I can't be uncomfy.

• 1:03:32Hannah Berner?

  It's an interesting, I understand if she like, I actually don't understand. Because if it's a money thing, it's like, us, like your sons are doing great, you birth them.

• 1:03:42Paige DeSorbo?

  And that she's just like a huge fan of the show and someone was like, you should do it. And she was like, I would love to do it.

• 1:03:48Hannah Berner?

  Maybe, but again, like, even if I'm a huge fan of something, doesn't mean I want to do it.

• 1:03:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like, let's give an example.

• 1:03:57Hannah Berner?

  Hey, let's play this game. Let's give an example. What I'm a huge fan that I don't want to do. Like, I never wanted to do The Bachelor, even though I used to love The Bachelor. I never wanted to be a contestant, because I was like,

• 1:04:06Paige DeSorbo?

  I could never.

• 1:04:06Hannah Berner?

  I'm not fighting over a man, but I will watch people fight over a man. But now I don't anymore because it's, it's too much.

• 1:04:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Eat in the Jersey Shore cast.

• 1:04:16Hannah Berner?

  Murder documentaries. I love watching murder.

• 1:04:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Never, but I love them.

• 1:04:19Hannah Berner?

  I love watching murder, but I wouldn't murder someone.

• 1:04:24Hannah Berner?

  I love you no reaction to that one. You were like, yeah.

• 1:04:28Paige DeSorbo?

  That's a good one.

• 1:04:29Hannah Berner?

  I'm a huge fan of cults.

• 1:04:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Huge fan of cults.

• 1:04:34Hannah Berner?

  Bringing up The Bachelor, I do have one piece of advice.

• 1:04:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:04:37Hannah Berner?

  For dating. As someone who's so out of the dating game, like I don't even know what's going on. I used to love strategy.

• 1:04:47Hannah Berner?

  As you did too, right? We loved a little game. And I was recently thinking of like, it's always hard with texting in the beginning, like how you should text. And this girl was talking to me, she's like, ugh, like, you never want to like text too much, but then are you texting too little? And I was like, you know what I think you should do? You know when you're texting your friend and like the last word, the autocorrect fucks it up? That happens to me a lot. Like I'm trying to say something and I keep fucking it up and like clearly I'm just texting like chaos. I think that's how you should text a guy you like. Like you don't care about the text so much that you're spelling everything wrong and then you're like blowing his phone up trying to spell it right? And he's like, wow, this girl does not give a fuck about me.

• 1:05:28Paige DeSorbo?

  If there's one thing I feel like I've learned in all of my dating, especially now being in my 30s,

• 1:05:37Paige DeSorbo?

  rules are made up. We made, the, we as women made them up to like not, to like rationalize certain things. If he's obsessed with you, he's going to be obsessed with you from the moment he meets you. You could do literally anything. He does not give a flying fuck. If he is like in it, he's in it. And if he's not, he's not. And if he's not, that's not your husband, babe.

• 1:06:01Hannah Berner?

  Honestly, period. I have nothing to say. Like that was perfect. Like.

• 1:06:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Period.

• 1:06:06Hannah Berner?

  Slay.

• 1:06:08Hannah Berner?

  Boots down, ground, mic drop. Yes. Oh my gosh. Well, thank you guys so much for giggling with us this, this week. Um, we have a new, oh my God, it just came out, right? Our new YouTube, we painted each other's faces. And you guys are never going to know how, how it went unless you watch.

• 1:06:29Paige DeSorbo?

  And we're not going to have giggly squad next week. We just want to prepare you guys. We're taking next week off.

• 1:06:35Hannah Berner?

  We couldn't do this one without Dunkin. Thank you for fueling the fun.

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