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• 0:00Paige DeSorbo?

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• 0:38Paige DeSorbo?

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• 1:41Speaker 01

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• 2:13Speaker 02

  Sup, Giggler? Gary, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

• 2:23Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 2:26Hannah Berner?

  What's up, my gotcha gigglers? I'm saying it again.

• 2:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, because it's never not funny.

• 2:31Hannah Berner?

  It's never not funny. Someone was like, can you guys stop saying gotcha? We said it for one and a half episodes. Buckle the fuck up.

• 2:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Imagine living with me? I literally imagine living with me. Daphne's so... Let's start the pod off with Daphne and I in our first fight.

• 2:47Hannah Berner?

  What is going on? Who is in trouble? Who did what?

• 2:51Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what's so crazy is because like the past, like I've been with Daphne now for seven days. The past like six days, I've been like, Daphne, isn't this amazing? We're literally gonna be together every single day for like the rest of our lives. The tour is over. Like, I'm literally just obsessed with her, you know? Like, we're really vibing. This morning, she's like laying on the ground and I, and I wake up and I'm like, come up here, you crazy kitty. Like, get in the bed.

• 3:19Hannah Berner?

  You silly goose?

• 3:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you silly goose. What are you doing down there? She gets in, we're like nuzzling, we're loving. She goes to the end of the bed, she turns around, she's staring at me. And I'm like, what's going on? She's peeing on my bed whilst I'm in it. And I'm like, what's going on? What's going on? Why are you... I'm literally talking to her as if she's a human. I'm like, why are you doing this right now? What happened? Like, I think something's wrong with her. Then she takes a massive shit.

• 3:50Hannah Berner?

  On the bed?

• 3:51Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm just like running around. I'm like, what is the procedure? I've, I've only ever walked into it after it's been done. I've never been in the midst of it. I have to strip my bed. I have to bring everything to the dry cleaner, put all the sheets in the wash. I was like...

• 4:04Hannah Berner?

  I am so sorry, because this should not be happening. This is not in the cat rulebook.

• 4:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm Googling everything. I'm like, what's going on with her?

• 4:12Hannah Berner?

  She's mad at you?

• 4:14Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know if she's mad at me for something that I did, because like the only thing is like digestive or, um, like her litter box is dirty. And like, her litter box is literally never dirty. I haven't...

• 4:29Hannah Berner?

  It's sparkling.

• 4:29Paige DeSorbo?

  She's been on the same food like for weeks. Like, she's literally fine.

• 4:33Hannah Berner?

  She's drinking Evian.

• 4:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I introduced her to wet food weeks ago. She was acclimated. She loves it. She's fine. She, I think she's just literally sometimes a bitch.

• 4:44Hannah Berner?

  It doesn't make sense, though. The only time that this has happened to me with cats is my first cat, Trixie. Yes, she was named like a stripper. And we love sex work on this pod. She, um, when I went to college, she went to, when I went to, she went to college. Butter's, okay, I'm so tired right now.

• 5:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's the craziest part. I know, I know exactly everything you just said. I literally know exactly.

• 5:13Hannah Berner?

  I don't even have to finish the story. You guys know what I was saying. I go to college and Trixie just like shat in my room. And it's just like one poop, just saying like, fuck you bitch.

• 5:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Gotcha.

• 5:24Hannah Berner?

  This is what you do to me. That's how I feel. Gotcha. And then Butter, when I was shooting Summer House, it was the first time I would leave her for like three or four days, even though I have a cat sitter. And she peed in my laundry like twice. Cause it like smelled like me and she was like, you?

• 5:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, well then I started spiraling because I was like, what would she be mad about? And I was like, I have been here for seven days and this is like the time when I would leave. And I'm like, does she like want to be alone?

• 5:56Hannah Berner?

  She's too much like her mom? Or maybe she thinks you might leave? She's traumatized?

• 6:02Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know what it is.

• 6:03Hannah Berner?

  Did she make eye contact with you during it?

• 6:05Paige DeSorbo?

  She didn't make eye contact with me, but like, I was yelling and she was like looking around and was like, I'm like doing something.

• 6:14Hannah Berner?

  They do say that cats don't understand like negative reinforcement. Like if you, they just don't get that. I don't, I feel like you should get a vet to come over or you should get that guy, Jackson Galaxy. Have you seen him?

• 6:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 6:27Hannah Berner?

  He has this show called Cats From Hell. It's so good. It's basically like, he's like the Gordon Ramsay of cats. Where people are like, my cat's crazy. And it, and it shows the cat like beating up a toddler. Then he comes in and he's like, he like figures out what the cat's upset about and then fixes them. And the cats are like perfect after.

• 6:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait.

• 6:49Hannah Berner?

  It's my favorite show.

• 6:50Paige DeSorbo?

  I need him to come over because that or like a pet psychic. In my next life, I want to be a pet psychic.

• 6:57Hannah Berner?

  We need, we need, in this life, we need a pet psychic. We're going to do it for sure. I found some on Facebook. Um, I'm just sifting.

• 7:03Paige DeSorbo?

  So they're reliable.

• 7:05Hannah Berner?

  No, those are the, if you don't get it from Facebook, I don't trust it. I want people who don't know that TikTok exists.

• 7:11Paige DeSorbo?

  My favorite profession, sorry, my favorite profession is cat psychic.

• 7:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Animal psychic, because like you, you made it up, you're, you could say anything to me. There's no fact checking. It's literally like someone woke up and was like, my job is vibes. Like I'm literally vibes.

• 7:33Hannah Berner?

  It's literally someone being like, I'm empathic, but just with animals, which is, that's what I think.

• 7:39Paige DeSorbo?

  I hate when people say they're empathic. It's one of my biggest pet peeves. I should start a list of pet peeves because whenever someone asks me, what's a pet peeve? I could never remember it. No, knowing full well and good, I have so many. And that's a pet peeve. Honestly, a pet peeve of mine is not remembering my pet peeves.

• 8:01Hannah Berner?

  Write it, write it down. If we don't write anything down, nothing would be said.

• 8:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Truly, but I know that when people say they're empaths, I hate them.

• 8:08Hannah Berner?

  Well, not, no, I support pet psychics because I support women in the arts. And then also during COVID, she, a pet psychic over the phone told me that butter is sarcastic and funny. And I was like, obviously. And then she told me she thinks Clyde is fat, the other cat, which I was like, okay, a little body shaming, which we don't love, but.

• 8:28Paige DeSorbo?

  And she's ugly.

• 8:32Hannah Berner?

  And has a wide set vagina and a heavy flow. And then she also said that Clyde's stomach was hurting. And then two weeks later, we had to bring him to the vet because of like a worm. So either she put a spell on him or this shit is real.

• 8:47Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I look, I support them. I'll give them all my money. If there's one thing I love, it's someone like being like, I have a talent. And me being like, yeah, I could never, I don't even, couldn't even start to think about what you do.

• 9:02Hannah Berner?

  Do you know people talk about how like guys lose all their money in sports betting?

• 9:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 9:06Hannah Berner?

  People don't talk enough.

• 9:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Love that for them though.

• 9:12Paige DeSorbo?

  No, like I truly do. I love watching a guy like do really manly things that are so stupid that like a woman wouldn't even, it wouldn't even cross our fucking mind. Like I think when I wake up on a Sunday, I'm like, what face mask am I picking? Like, what could it be? And guys are like, how could I possibly put my family in danger? How could I almost lose the house?

• 9:37Hannah Berner?

  For no good reason. Do you know why we love it?

• 9:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Literally no good reason.

• 9:40Hannah Berner?

  These men finally know what it's like to be disappointed by other men.

• 9:45Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's amazing. There's also something homoerotic about it because you're literally getting gassed up to watch all these guys in like super tight pants run around and I'm not coming for you. I'm sitting right there too. Like I'll watch it. I love it.

• 10:02Hannah Berner?

  Also, the fact you think you know what's gonna happen in the game is giving like you think you're an empathic psychic.

• 10:07Paige DeSorbo?

  It's giving, yeah, it's giving, it's giving.

• 10:10Hannah Berner?

  Cat psychic.

• 10:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Animal psychic. It truly is.

• 10:13Hannah Berner?

  All the men are animal psychics, but they talk shit on us. But I, I was saying that.

• 10:18Paige DeSorbo?

  It's literally just reality TV, like.

• 10:21Hannah Berner?

  A man wearing a jersey of another man is like us wearing like road lip gloss.

• 10:27Paige DeSorbo?

  And I love it. And I'll do it forever. Not to bring up the girls fighting, can we talk about the Matilda Jirf?

• 10:37Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 10:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Like scandal? If you guys don't know who Matilda Jirf is, she like became really big on TikTok. She's Swedish.

• 10:46Hannah Berner?

  She's Swedish, which I thought Swedish people didn't fight.

• 10:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I didn't either. And she created like an insane brand called Jirf Avenue. It has everything.

• 10:56Hannah Berner?

  Worth a lot of money.

• 10:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Worth a lot of money. It has like basics, pajamas, like their, one of their like robes or whatever went like viral on TikTok.

• 11:03Hannah Berner?

  And she's famous for being like a sweet looking blonde with beautifully volumous hair that's always blown out.

• 11:11Paige DeSorbo?

  She's been like in vogue.

• 11:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Like she's not like

• 11:16Hannah Berner?

  Don't tell me that you model till you been invoked.

• 11:19Paige DeSorbo?

  She's not like a small time creator whatsoever. She's big. And it came out, the girls that were working in her office, they did like a documentary, like whilst working there. And they did, and they just said how like the conditions are horrible, that she had like, in the bathroom, there was one like good toilet, which I was like, that's so European.

• 11:43Hannah Berner?

  You guys, there's one toilet that massages your butthole.

• 11:45Paige DeSorbo?

  You guys are literally fighting about one toilet. That's crazy.

• 11:50Paige DeSorbo?

  That she would let her favorite employees use, and then she would make the employees that she didn't like, clean the toilet. Clean the toilet.

• 11:59Hannah Berner?

  I didn't know she'd let other employees, because at first people were like, maybe she just has OCD. Um, but if she let her favorite employees use it, that's so weird. Like you think their buttholes are cleaner than, what? What? I do have to say, I like, I'm not trying to start drama.

• 12:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 12:15Hannah Berner?

  But I did meet her.

• 12:17Paige DeSorbo?

  You did? Where?

• 12:19Hannah Berner?

  When I interviewed Hailey Bieber at a Dunkin' Donuts.

• 12:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, so I think

• 12:24Hannah Berner?

  She was there.

• 12:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Hailey is so lucky that the campaign with her was literally like two days prior, because I think it legit like sold out. But she's off the website now. The pictures aren't up anymore. And they did the cutest little collab. She did her hair like Cindy Lou Who, like it's, I really, I really do love like Hailey's branding. It was so cute.

• 12:45Hannah Berner?

  The only experience I have was like, I actually said hi to her. She wasn't having it with me.

• 12:52Paige DeSorbo?

  And she was like, you can use the fourth toilet, thanks.

• 12:56Hannah Berner?

  She was like, brush your fucking hair, you dirty American slut. Um, no, she didn't say that to me, but I remember her, she was cold. But again, if that was a man.

• 13:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Look, it's so crazy to me because like I've obviously like we've worked in offices. I've worked in offices of like all women. I've worked in offices where it's like mixed. I can like in an office setting, obviously you're gonna have at least like one day where like you don't snap at someone, but like you're in a bad mood.

• 13:27Hannah Berner?

  Under a lot of pressure.

• 13:28Paige DeSorbo?

  And you say something in a tone that you're like, I shouldn't have said that, or like I shouldn't have said that.

• 13:32Hannah Berner?

  You're not sucking everyone's dick. You're not like, is everyone okay all the time?

• 13:36Paige DeSorbo?

  There can definitely be a moment where someone could be like, you're a villain in someone's story at some point in your life and thank God. And thank God.

• 13:45Hannah Berner?

  I feel like that's me, but I was just trying to make people laugh, but I offended someone.

• 13:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so I get like being in an office and it's like, oh, that girl's a bitch because like one time blah, blah, blah. This is on such a different level to like literally think of things to do to people or not do is is so insane.

• 14:06Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and I don't want to simplify it being like if she was a man, this wouldn't happen. I think there's assholes on both ends and I would argue sometimes female bosses have like really mental terrorism that they will do.

• 14:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 14:19Hannah Berner?

  That like, like male bosses will just be like dicks, misogynistic assholes and then female bosses can be like weird with specific people and stuff like that.

• 14:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I, I honestly, I'm so thankful and grateful. Like I had one female boss and she was the best thing that ever happened to my life. Like, and I'm, and I'm so thankful for it because I, it was in my early twenties and I think about it all the time now. Like when I am telling certain, like some people like what to do at any given moment. I literally always think of her and I'm like, she was so nice and understanding and just like whatever. And now like I have to be like that.

• 15:03Hannah Berner?

  Imagine Grace comes out with a tell-all tomorrow.

• 15:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I literally kept thinking about Grace because I was like, I was like-

• 15:14Hannah Berner?

  So we have one employee, one employee who, you know, okay, she literally was joking.

• 15:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No, we have like, no, we have like three.

• 15:24Hannah Berner?

  No, we have more, but like Grace is our CEO, like she's my right-hand man. And it's funny because she was, once she did sit me down, she's like, I feel like I'm learning so much. This is so fun and like I've all this stuff. And I was like, well, I'm like grooming you. And then we paused. I was like, not like that, not like that.

• 15:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Cut to literally eight months later, we're on tour and you're like, Grace will be carrying my children. I don't know what, that's non-negotiable for me.

• 15:52Hannah Berner?

  We were talking about babies and I was like, Grace, is your ovaries available? But um, and then she texted me because I was like, I miss you because Grace is back home now because the tour is taking like a pause. And she was like, I feel like I have Stockholm syndrome because I'm not with you and Paige and I miss you. No, but the thing is, we got so lucky, but it's because we have like a small environment. When you start getting like a big office, it gets crazy. However, I understand like, jerk is the brand. Anything that goes wrong, it's on you. It's a lot of pressure. I'm totally about being fucking serious, hardworking, no bullshit. I do not understand the like weird toilet things and the freakouts on people. It's unnecessary.

• 16:37Hannah Berner?

  Um, a girl's, all this stuff comes out of the woodwork now, obviously, but some girl said she did a model-

• 16:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Did a what?

• 16:44Hannah Berner?

  I did a modeling campaign with her and-

• 16:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, that's the other thing. Then like people come out of the woodwork that like have even like an ounce to say, so then it like piles on and like half of those could be true, half of those could be not be. But I just like, I can't, also, there's something about like, starting as no one, becoming an influencer, then having like a ton of fans, then like, it's almost like you even have more of a responsibility. And not that I'm like, oh my God, you have to be nice every single day. You literally don't like- But you can't go out of your way to literally ruin people's lives. That's crazy.

• 17:24Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 17:25Paige DeSorbo?

  And it had to been really bad for them to all get together and be like, hey, like, this is not okay.

• 17:31Hannah Berner?

  No, they're all risking everything, but I guess they're at the point where they're like, I'd rather be fired and expose her. Oof. Yeah, I'm just upset because now I feel like all the Swedish stereotype stereotypes I had in my head are wrong.

• 17:46Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I know.

• 17:48Hannah Berner?

  I watched an amazing documentary called Child Star on Hulu, produced and like done by Demi Lovato.

• 17:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, I saw the advertisement.

• 17:59Hannah Berner?

  It's fucking incredible in terms of like Drew Barrymore's on it, Raven Simone's on it, um, the girl from the Missy Elliott videos on it.

• 18:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, yeah, from Cheaper by the Dozen.

• 18:10Hannah Berner?

  Yes. So, and this kind of reminded me, Demi Lovato sits down with one of the child stars she was with, and how like the first season of Camp Rock, like they had so much fun. And then Demi Lovato blew up and the next season she was like, she's staying at the Ritz or like somewhere fancy. And there was like this disconnect between her and her old friends. And the girl basically was like, you, people were scared of you. Like you watched the moment of her being like, you traumatized me and like you were a monster. And...

• 18:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, that Demi Lovato traumatized people?

• 18:44Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but you later learned that like Demi Lovato was bipolar. Like work, she was work, she had like 350 shows in, in a year. And she's a kid, so people are just like, you have to keep working, you have to keep working. And it was, it was very interesting and, but it's hard to be like these kids stars being like, oh, I mean, millions of dollars and got famous as a kid. And it was really hard. But someone like Raven Simone, who is a giggler, by the way, she's honestly one of the reasons I went into comedy. Like That's So Raven changed my life. Like her facial expressions, everything.

• 19:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, did you see like the, the discourse on TikTok about the, I was just gonna say the Today Show about That's So Raven?

• 19:34Hannah Berner?

  What?

• 19:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Raven Simone said on a podcast, like, I think like young kids, like young boys watch my show because I had big boobs. And it's all these guys like stitching the video being like... I was like seven and like it was funny and like I liked the plot like can I not laugh now like

• 19:53Hannah Berner?

  Wait Raven it was not your boobs you're fucking hilarious the cast

• 19:58Paige DeSorbo?

  No it truly was the funniest show

• 20:01Hannah Berner?

  That show it was so fucking funny that and Amanda Bynes

• 20:05Paige DeSorbo?

  But like it was an age that like there was no sexual you didn't think you didn't even have a thought in your brain of like

• 20:12Hannah Berner?

  But you know what I do feel like subconsciously boys were like I like this for many reasons

• 20:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah but like I was trying to think like did I look at the boys in that show and was I like oh I have a crush on them

• 20:26Hannah Berner?

  I feel like when I watched Drake and Josh like you knew that Drake was hot

• 20:31Paige DeSorbo?

  You knew that yes okay yeah you knew that like Drake was like cute

• 20:35Hannah Berner?

  But you weren't like I want to give him a handjob you just were like oh he's I want to stand next to him

• 20:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's go back to that let's truly go back to that

• 20:48Hannah Berner?

  I'm not touching your dick but you can be in my presence

• 20:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's go back to like you trying to just hold my hand just try and hold my hand because anything else it's too much

• 21:00Hannah Berner?

  Wait can I tell a traumatizing story trigger warning

• 21:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes

• 21:04Hannah Berner?

  My like first boyfriend in high school this is such a New York story

• 21:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait that just sounded literally your Regina George oh my first boyfriend in high school was named Kyle and like he moved away to Indiana

• 21:18Hannah Berner?

  His dad invented toaster strudel no but we were like in we couldn't go to anyone's house because it was like our parents' house and like no one knew we were dating So after school we like went to like Sheep's Meadow Park and we were like kind of kissing and I remember that

• 21:37Paige DeSorbo?

  What a slut

• 21:38Hannah Berner?

  He I felt he had like a little like a boner and I was so embarrassed for him I was like oh my god is he embarrassed right now like that's so embarrassing And we're kissing and then we look over and a homeless man is jerking off

• 21:53Hannah Berner?

  And I was like, I don't like this game anymore.

• 21:56Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so traumatizing.

• 21:58Hannah Berner?

  That was so New York City.

• 22:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Now I'm like trying to think, did I ever notice like the, what was the first time I noticed like a boner? Like, did I know what it was?

• 22:07Hannah Berner?

  You think that it's like they have something in their teeth and you're like, do I tell them? Like, or like, like they farted. It's like, that's what I thought it was like. I didn't realize that that was the point of it all.

• 22:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I literally can't remember. I feel like I've just like blocked out anyone like before a certain age. I'm like, you didn't like literally exist.

• 22:28Hannah Berner?

  They fingered the side of your leg until we were like 26 and that was, that's something else we have to work on in society.

• 22:35Paige DeSorbo?

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• 23:19Paige DeSorbo?

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• 24:02Paige DeSorbo?

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• 25:56Hannah Berner?

  The Columbia Amaze Puff Jacket is so iconic because I feel so encapsulated and warm, but it's so light.

• 26:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Great use of "encapsulated". I went whimsical. My jacket is the Tea Light Pearl Shine and it really does give Tea Light Pearl Shine.

• 26:12Hannah Berner?

  It gives it.

• 26:13Paige DeSorbo?

  It's honey.

• 26:14Hannah Berner?

  Honey. And mine's black.

• 26:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Because sometimes in the winter, you just see all the same colors. And I'm like, okay, but let me throw like a galosh on with my puffer coat and let me have it be fun colors.

• 26:27Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because you like a coat to be part of the outfit.

• 26:30Paige DeSorbo?

  It's the outfit.

• 26:31Hannah Berner?

  Not ruining the outfit. But also, I hate when you put on coats and then you're like stiff. You guys, I literally could swim in this.

• 26:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it feels like it's light, but it's also extremely warm.

• 26:42Hannah Berner?

  It's not overpriced.

• 26:43Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 26:44Hannah Berner?

  And we love giving the Giggler's a good deal. And it has space for layering. Like, you don't feel like it's tight, so I can layer a lot.

• 26:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Which is very important, because there's nothing worse than like layering and you're stiff and then you're sweating and it's like a cold sweat and it's like, no. And I love that it has these things for your hands, because I really use them with my thumbs. I love when jackets have this.

• 27:05Hannah Berner?

  So cute. And they have all different length options for what you prefer, depending on how long your torso is. Visit Columbia.com to get your hands on an Amaze Puff Jacket.

• 27:15Paige DeSorbo?

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• 28:36Hannah Berner?

  Back to Raven, shout out Raven, you're like literal number one fan right here if you're listening, but you're probably busy. Um, she started working at 16 months old and then she got on The Cosby Show and just did not stop working from then on and she, she was very clear that like it was a job, it was always a job and during That's So Raven, she was like, "I hated it, like I didn't sign up for this, I, I just wanted a normal life." Like she didn't enjoy it and it's so crazy to, something that brings us so much joy was causing so much pain for these people and then a lot of them would like just turn to drugs and stuff and, and then, long story short, there's control in Hollywood

• 29:18Hannah Berner?

  because there used to be this, the first like famous kid ever, back in the day, apparently his parents just like took all his money that he made, so he was like, he made millions of dollars and then by 18, like there was nothing left. So there's a rule-

• 29:31Paige DeSorbo?

  A homicide would ensue.

• 29:33Hannah Berner?

  A hundred percent. There's like a law now that like a certain percentage has to go into the child's trust, but you know what, that there isn't a law to organize everything is child influencers. So these kids are now doing the same thing, like they get born, the parents are working and working and working and working, I'm traumatizing them, forcing them to work and the kids aren't promised any money. So it's like they're just making a ton of money for their parents. And let's be honest, we've done reality TV, we do performances. When you're in front of the camera, that's not real life.

• 30:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 30:08Hannah Berner?

  Once a camera is on, you are performing.

• 30:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Maybe that's why Daphne shit in my bed.

• 30:15Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like, "I won't work, I won't work under these conditions, I won't have it."

• 30:24Hannah Berner?

  She's like, "I saw your ad two days ago, I see you using me for engagement."

• 30:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Stop putting me in your fucking grid dumps, bitch.

• 30:34Hannah Berner?

  She goes, "Talk to my agent before you fucking take a photo."

• 30:37Paige DeSorbo?

  I fantasize that Daphne like swears like a trucker in her head, like this fucking bitch.

• 30:43Hannah Berner?

  I think all cats do. They said, someone says a cat's face always looks like you just asked them to pick you up from the airport.

• 30:58Hannah Berner?

  Oh god.

• 30:59Paige DeSorbo?

  No, we're so old. I literally, all we do is laugh about cat stuff and Kanye West.

• 31:05Hannah Berner?

  To be like a little more, um, oh my god, someone did something funny yesterday. I was at the Hollywood Improv. And they were like, you know, the year's been crazy when Kanye West hasn't spoken. He's like, I'll, I'll sit out on this one.

• 31:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Hasn't spoken?

• 31:21Hannah Berner?

  I am in Hollywood. I was, Dez and I really failed at vacationing.

• 31:29Paige DeSorbo?

  No, can you explain this? Because like, this is like part, something that like, we do as partners and like, we don't think twice about it and the men get mad.

• 31:42Hannah Berner?

  So, the reason why I think Dez and I work so well is because he's lived this life before and now he's just tired. So he, everything I'm going through, he's been on that side and knows how it feels. So he's lifting me up and empowering me, but it sucks because Dez and I were like, we want to travel at some point. And I know you're like, honey, you're always traveling, but we're like, we've never been on, I've never been to Asia. So like, two months ago, we're like, let's go to Thailand. Two weeks, industry's dead in December. Let's fucking go.

• 32:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 32:17Hannah Berner?

  Long story short, we're, we cancel. We're like, we're not, we're not going to Thailand.

• 32:22Paige DeSorbo?

  You cancel, but you book a different trip. You're like, it's too big of a trip to do right now.

• 32:27Hannah Berner?

  We can't do two weeks. It's too crazy. 24 hours of flying. We're tired. Let's do a simple trip.

• 32:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 32:33Hannah Berner?

  Let's, let's, we were like, let's go to Cartagena. Let's go to Colombia, um, Medellin.

• 32:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh yeah, just, just a simple trip to Colombia. Nothing outlandish.

• 32:46Hannah Berner?

  City, culture. And then we're like, no. So we can't, we don't cancel. We don't even book that. And then we go, let's fucking just go to the Caribbean for four days. So we're so excited. We're like, we're gonna go to the Caribbean for four days. I get an email, middle of the Caribbean trip. I get invited to do a gig that like, I personally didn't want to say no to.

• 33:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 33:08Hannah Berner?

  And Dez was like, I get it. Like, we don't have to go on vacation. You do this.

• 33:14Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so important. It's so important.

• 33:19Hannah Berner?

  So you guys will see what this gig is. It's very fun. Um, soon. It comes out on the 27th.

• 33:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, I feel like that's like low key a mental health moment, too. I can't tell you how many boyfriends I've had in my life that like, we've had something planned or like we're looking forward to something and like something work wise comes up and I'm like, I'm so sorry. I have to do this. And like, the words that are exchanged where like if the roles are were reversed and it was like some man and he was in finance and like, some client called or something and he was like, I have to go to this. I feel like as a woman, you're almost programmed to be like, oh my God, yeah, like, you have like, you have to do this. Now, obviously there's like workaholics, but, but it's like, such a fine line and it also does depend on your age. Like,

• 34:12Paige DeSorbo?

  if you're in your early 30s, like, yeah, you gotta fucking answer the phone and like,

• 34:16Hannah Berner?

  You're so right. And for people listening who are entrepreneurs, you kind of get that like, there's no schedule. So it could be slow sometimes, but then like on a Sunday, something crazy happens and you need to do it to make money. But I've also been like on a ski trip with Dez once and I got an offer for something that was like, exciting, but not great. And we had like a long talk to be like, where are our priorities here? Like you can do that, but like, we go on a just trying to, I mean, I fucking hated skiing, so I was trying to get out of it.

• 34:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Kim Kardashian like did an interview. This is like months and months ago. It would literally have been a year ago and I, and I have not ever forgotten it or stopped thinking about it. She was like talking about a boyfriend. I think it was Pete Davidson, but I don't know. And she was like, and he told me like, I work too much. And she was like, and in my head, I was like, get out of my way. Like get out. And I'm like, oh my God, I so get like, get out of my fricking way. Like I'm,

• 35:16Hannah Berner?

  Well, also you'll have so much animosity towards him.

• 35:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I have another like mental health moment.

• 35:22Hannah Berner?

  Okay, go off.

• 35:24Paige DeSorbo?

  So do you, you watched Girls, right?

• 35:27Hannah Berner?

  I think it's one of the greatest shows ever made.

• 35:29Paige DeSorbo?

  It's one of the greatest shows of our generation. If you haven't watched Girls, do yourself a fucking favor. I actually like restart it every couple of years because it's just so iconic. So the one actress in it, um, her real name is Jemai McCork. She plays.

• 35:45Hannah Berner?

  She, she plays, she's actually my favorite character. I saw her in Airport once.

• 35:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Jessa.

• 35:52Hannah Berner?

  Jessa. Oh my god, she's so cool.

• 35:54Paige DeSorbo?

  No, she's so good. She, I this, I saw this on TikTok, but she was doing this on Instagram. She was doing just like a Q and A and a girl wrote in and was like, what is your advice for unconfident young women? Did you see this?

• 36:08Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 36:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. And her answer was, you think about yourself too much. And I literally felt like my mind was blown.

• 36:19Hannah Berner?

  It's so good.

• 36:20Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, wait a minute. What a powerful, true statement. Like literally at the times that I'm like my most unconfident or my most nervous, it's because I'm literally so wrapped up in myself.

• 36:36Hannah Berner?

  You've literally thought yourself into some like insane spiral that's given you every reason to question or not believe in yourself when it's like, this is like one of my favorite quotes is like, at the end of the day, the only thing that could really calm you down is that no one cares and you're gonna die.

• 36:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I love it so mu- no one cares.

• 36:56Hannah Berner?

  When I, I've gotten really anxious places and yeah, it's always because you're like overthinking everything and the really only way to calm you down is that it doesn't matter. And it's sad that like nothing matters at the end of the day, but if you can find solace in that, like for example, Giggly Squad. Sometimes I'll get nervous and I'll be like, I want this to be the best fucking episode ever, but if you force stuff and want it so bad because you care too much, like you actually aren't yourself.

• 37:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. It's so crazy because even though I had like crazy panic attacks, although we did tour and I was like really working through something. I'm so happy that it happened during tour and this sounds like so weird. Because truly Giggly Squad every week is like the number one place where I feel my most self and like,

• 37:40Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 37:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Like just like Hannah and I literally got on Zoom today because. No, and started laughing because we were like, we miss each other, but we can't call each other because then like we'll say all the good stuff that we have to say for the pod.

• 37:54Hannah Berner?

  And also, we're both like so respectful of each other. Like you're like, I think, I know you're like working and I'll like come up with something like, you know, she needs a second, she's stressed, but like we become full codependent on each other, even though that's not, it's not our personalities.

• 38:08Paige DeSorbo?

  And here's when I know, when I'm like going to run an errand or I'm getting in an Uber or something, that's when I do my calls. So like, but I'm always just like calling my mom, really?

• 38:19Hannah Berner?

  Yes, same.

• 38:21Paige DeSorbo?

  And for whatever reason, today I was like running errands and I was like, should I call Hannah?

• 38:26Hannah Berner?

  No, wait, you can call me anytime.

• 38:29Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, no, she's busy. She's doing things.

• 38:32Hannah Berner?

  I feel like me and you are actually two people who like, we do have intimacy issues.

• 38:38Paige DeSorbo?

  You think?

• 38:41Hannah Berner?

  Like, and people, and I hate when they make it like, girls are like, we're boy crazy and all this stuff, but like, I'm gonna be honest, me and you, like, we are so the men sometimes, stereotypically. But yeah, I would go after guys who had intimacy issues because I didn't want to connect with a man. Like, I wanted to protect myself, you know?

• 39:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Sometimes when it comes to dating, and I would literally, I've never admitted this to anyone or publicly or to anyone in my life, but I will say it on the pod.

• 39:10Hannah Berner?

  Because no one listens.

• 39:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Because, no, in my head, no one listens. I'm like...

• 39:14Hannah Berner?

  No, in my head, four girls who know everything about us listen.

• 39:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, here's the thing, I, when I say things on the podcast, it's for the gigglers that listen every week, like those are my friends, like those are my girls. For the people that like pop in to like write an article or like make a TikTok video, I'm not saying anything for you guys. Like, it's not, like, whatever. So I feel like it's...

• 39:35Hannah Berner?

  It's like, yeah, you just came into the middle of a conversation we've been having for five years. Obviously, you don't get it.

• 39:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, hello?

• 39:41Hannah Berner?

  But we love the new gigglers. We love the new gigglers. You're all welcome. Anyway, what were you gonna say that you said you've never told anyone and then you veered off?

• 39:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Is this the audition for Pippin?

• 39:53Paige DeSorbo?

  No, what I've never said to anyone, Hannah and I, before every, before every Giggly Squad show, before we walk out on stage, we'll say to each other, is this the audition for Pippen? Um, okay. When it comes to dating, sometimes I will move in a manner, subconsciously or consciously, it depends, where like I'll stop and think and be like, that was such a move that a guy would pull. Or like, sometimes like I'll do things and I'll be like, I'm the guy. Like, that's so heinous. I can't believe I said that, or like I did that, or like I'm thinking that, like, I'm the guy. And it's, it's kind of scary. Sometimes I have to like catch myself and be like, don't do that.

• 40:37Hannah Berner?

  No, but the concept of like, that's what guys would do is like socially constructed. Like, that's just what we've been like raised to think, where we just are trying to like have some power.

• 40:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, then I think like, if certain guys don't like me, I'm like, oh, you don't like that I move the way men move.

• 40:56Hannah Berner?

  Mm-hmm. It scares them.

• 40:57Paige DeSorbo?

  It scares you that I can also, like, switch into this mode of like, I don't give a fuck.

• 41:04Hannah Berner?

  I always love, like, I don't talk too much about like Dez and I, but I do love the moment our relationship where like I was pretending, I was like cool and didn't care. And I think I might have posted something that was like a little bit like, could potentially make him jealous or something like very early on.

• 41:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 41:24Hannah Berner?

  And that was when he, I remember he called me and he was like, hey, if you're not like, if you're gonna do this kind of stuff, like I'm actually, like I'm not attracted to that stuff and like I don't want to play games like that, so that's great. Yeah, and he was like, and I'm, I, I like you. I feel like I made that clear. So like, if you're gonna be like weird like this, I'm good. I literally put my tail between my legs and was like, that was the first, I was like, oh my god, like, and it was so mature of him and hot, but anyway. No, I'll, I do something that a guy would try to like up, up me and make me feel worse. And then I would, and next thing you know, it's just two egos battling each other and it's like a competitive fucking stupid situation. But I do have to say, rounding to what you were saying in the beginning.

• 42:07Hannah Berner?

  Your thirties, it stops being about like being the most successful or finding the best guy. It's about finding like your authenticity, which is full of, yeah, you question yourself. Yeah, whatever, but at least you're being you. And I'd, I'd rather like be sad authentically being me than like pretending to be something else.

• 42:29Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I love being me.

• 42:36Paige DeSorbo?

  I think I'm the greatest.

• 42:39Hannah Berner?

  Speaking of me.

• 42:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Back to me for a second.

• 42:43Hannah Berner?

  Enough, enough about me. What do you think about me?

• 42:46Paige DeSorbo?

  What about me?

• 42:48Hannah Berner?

  I didn't tell you about what happened in thanks, during Thanksgiving. I talked about it on burner phone. Shout out burner phone. You guys should listen. Thanksgiving morning. We're finally having all these people at our house. And I, I'm of course asleep. It's like seven thirty and you know how all the adults are awake?

• 43:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 43:07Hannah Berner?

  Like they're all like chatting loud, laughing and I kinda hear it and it's beautiful.

• 43:10Paige DeSorbo?

  They're like four cups of coffee deep.

• 43:13Hannah Berner?

  Yes, they're fucking, they're talking about like recent events in the news and stuff. It's not my scene.

• 43:18Paige DeSorbo?

  It's not my scene. No, it's literally not my scene. I don't wanna see, yeah, I don't wanna see it at that table.

• 43:26Hannah Berner?

  Doesn't come across my desk. So I'm chilling, cause I could sleep through anything, but I hear the good vibes. I'm so happy everyone's talking. And then I hear like a weird murmur and everything goes silent. And like, you know, when you just have like that spidey sense where you're like, something bad happened? So it's like silent for like thirty minutes and I check my phone. No one texted me. And then I like hear someone say something and I'm like, did someone die? Like, did someone have a heart attack? Like, I start freaking out. But then like, no one's telling me anything. So I'm just like, I'm just gonna stay here. You know, when you're like, I don't wanna ruin my day. I'm gonna stay here until I find out.

• 43:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you're like, if I don't know, nothing happened yet.

• 44:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, so I'm just staying in bed. Finally someone opens the door and they're like, and it was Des and he's like, hey, just so much you know, uh, the water tank burst. And it's been flooding downstairs and we've all been, um, wiping, like putting towels down, um, just letting you know. Walks out, I go, no one?

• 44:22Hannah Berner?

  Thought to wake me up. No one was like, you know, it would make the situation better if Hannah was awake. No one even told me.

• 44:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Because what were you offering to that?

• 44:32Hannah Berner?

  No, literally, they thought about it and they were like, it would be better if we kept her out of this.

• 44:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah didn't know.

• 44:38Hannah Berner?

  I started Googling like water tank burst. I'm like, this is really bad. And my mom's like, we're handling it. Everything's being handled. Does on the phone with the plumber and I, I never felt more insignificant, but understood.

• 44:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, it's so funny you say that because

• 44:54Paige DeSorbo?

  there are cer- it's, it's interesting to think that like your other family, like you obviously like you call a family member to talk about another family. Family member, but you don't think that like other family members are calling to talk about you. Like it's, you're almost like shocked.

• 45:13Hannah Berner?

  I do feel like there's a lot of roasting though in my family and like I'm known as kind of the one, oh Hannah, she's, you know, type B. She forgot her wallet again. She spilled everything, whatever.

• 45:23Paige DeSorbo?

  That's Hannah. Yeah.

• 45:24Hannah Berner?

  But also I have like crazy productive people in my family. Like my mom could run the country if she like put her mind to it. So it's kind of like, let's cut our losses.

• 45:34Paige DeSorbo?

  My brother the other day said something to me and I was like, I forget what it even was. And I was like, you didn't tell me that. Like, why didn't anyone tell me that? Like, when did this happen? And he was like, oh, well, we're not allowed to tell you certain things when you're really stressed out. And I was like, what the fuck does that mean? And he was like, mom tells everyone not to like annoy you with anything because like you're fragile and like during your tour, you were really fra- and he kept saying the word fragile. And I was like, I'm not fucking fragile.

• 46:04Hannah Berner?

  It is funny to think about. Yeah. Like every now and then I'll hear people who like work with Giggly Squad be like, oh, before we tell Hannah and Paige, let's make sure we tell them this way. And I'm like, we're dumb. Like what, there's no, we're not Matilda Jerv. Just tell us what's going on. We're not going to kick you. Like.

• 46:22Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm literally, I'm not, here's the crazy thing. I'm not going to do anything. Whether you need me to do something or not, I'm not doing anything. So like, I don't care.

• 46:32Hannah Berner?

  People call us and we're like, please text or send a voice note. Like I'm not trying to get into it with anyone at any time.

• 46:38Paige DeSorbo?

  No, people need to realize truly at the end of the day, Giggly Squad is built on not giving a shit.

• 46:47Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I do think we should start giving a shit about um the drones. They're filming a new season of New Jersey Housewives.

• 46:57Hannah Berner?

  That's what the drones are. It's just Andy Cohen being like, we need a step up production.

• 47:01Paige DeSorbo?

  This is why TikTok can't get banned. Everyone on TikTok just being like, are we the most unserious country in the fucking world? Like, we're just like, yeah, there's like something happening literally 10 feet away from me. And we're like, we don't know. Well, like, we have things to do, though.

• 47:18Hannah Berner?

  Someone was like, I love how after Luigi Mangione, um, they're like, we're gonna need drones in New Jersey. All the Italians are up to no good.

• 47:26Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it has not been a good week for Italy.

• 47:30Hannah Berner?

  The Columbia Amaze Puff Jacket is so iconic because I feel so encapsulated and warm, but it's so light.

• 47:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Great use of encapsulated. I went whimsical. My jacket is the Tea Light Pearl Shine, and it really does give tea light pearl shine.

• 47:48Paige DeSorbo?

  It's sunny.

• 47:48Hannah Berner?

  Honey. And mine's black.

• 47:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Because sometimes in the winter, you just see all the same colors. And I'm like, okay, but let me throw like a galosh on with my puffer coat and let me have it be fun colors.

• 48:01Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, cuz you like a coat to be part of the outfit, not ruining the outfit. But also, I hate when you put on coats and then you're like stiff. You guys, I literally could swim in this.

• 48:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it feels like it's light, but it's also extremely warm.

• 48:15Hannah Berner?

  It's not overpriced. And we love giving the gigglers a good deal. And it has space for layering. Like, you don't feel like it's tight, so I can layer a lot.

• 48:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Very important because there's nothing worse than like layering and you're stiff and then you're sweating and it's like a cold sweat and it's like, no. And I love that it has these things for your hands because I I really use them with my thumbs. I love when jackets have this.

• 48:38Hannah Berner?

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• 48:49Paige DeSorbo?

  It's tough on cold, soft on you.

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• 49:46Hannah Berner?

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• 49:56Paige DeSorbo?

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• 50:08Hannah Berner?

  Wait, can you please write? You wrote the single-handedly funniest note in our notes.

• 50:15Paige DeSorbo?

  What? I look like the shooter?

• 50:18Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 50:20Paige DeSorbo?

  I kept getting... Oh, here, first of all, let me just like, let's just talk about this like in full.

• 50:25Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 50:26Paige DeSorbo?

  The day that like they came out that like what his name was, I feel like every Italian collectively was like, fuck, like, it's not great for us. Like, it's not great for our brand. We're not, like, we didn't, we don't need this right now. People are like immediately being like, it's the mafia. We're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 50:46Hannah Berner?

  Well, look, Italians are good at two things. They're good at food and killing people in public spaces.

• 50:54Paige DeSorbo?

  We're like, this was just a disgruntled guy. Like, we're not, like, let's calm down for a second. Here's the other thing. I saw a comedian say this. I think it was Shane Gillis, actually, who said it like years ago that like Italians are like really the only minority that like you can make fun of still. And like, it kind of is so true, like, the next day. It was like, every meme was just like about Italians. But I kind of love that we're just like, yeah, we don't give a fuck. I don't, you could say whatever you fucking wanted to me, I don't care. Like, it doesn't matter. I was getting tagged. They did Luigi with like, long brown hair, and I was getting tagged in it so much, being like, why is this page de Sorbo? And I was like, I love it. I think it's amazing, I love it so much, but like.

• 51:40Paige DeSorbo?

  It was just a, it's a crazy day, it's a crazy week for Italians in Jersey.

• 51:45Hannah Berner?

  It is crazy that people are, the government, I mean, everyone is so pro Luigi, because he has a six-pack. Like, if he was ugly, people would be like, hang on.

• 51:56Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's crazy.

• 51:57Hannah Berner?

  People were like, he's, he's Peter Pan. Um, but I do have to say, the United Healthcare guy, he is a drug dealer.

• 52:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Well.

• 52:05Hannah Berner?

  That's, that's what hap- that could happen in the fight, when you're making millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars from giving people health or not.

• 52:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, obviously, like, this guy was like, a husband and a father, and like, you don't want anyone to be, like, murdered.

• 52:18Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 52:18Paige DeSorbo?

  But also, like, think about how much insurance companies just fuck people over, and like, they're, in like, the biggest time of need, it's just.

• 52:27Hannah Berner?

  But I do have to say, vigilantism is not the answer. Let's not just start shooting people, but I do feel like the girl's love that Luigi took the time to engrave the bullets.

• 52:37Paige DeSorbo?

  It's aesthetics.

• 52:38Hannah Berner?

  I feel like it also makes you look at your boyfriend being like, what have you done for me now? What have you done for me lately? You can't even write a card, and he literally engraved every single bullet he shot into that guy's back.

• 52:48Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like, write me one note. Ri- write me like, a thoughtful text message.

• 52:52Hannah Berner?

  Write me one post, uh, leave one post-it before you leave for work.

• 52:55Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's crazy.

• 52:57Hannah Berner?

  But yeah, the Luigi stuff, as an Italian, is very funny. But yeah, I think the guy had a, he had a mental break. I don't think it was like a sane thing. I mean, the guy was like, super smart.

• 53:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I also loved all the memes just being like, his mom didn't know where he was for a month. Yeah, okay.

• 53:16Paige DeSorbo?

  There's no fucking way.

• 53:18Hannah Berner?

  An Italian guy's mom didn't know where he was.

• 53:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Are you fucking kidding me?

• 53:23Hannah Berner?

  And Chapel Rhone was like his number one search, or like his favorite artist.

• 53:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I love it. Wait, okay, I have, I have another topic to bring up that I was talking about with, um, one of my girlfriends. And we were talking about how men, how like so many men get like the hair transplant and like the hair like plugs or like flying a turkey, they're like doing whatever.

• 53:46Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 53:47Paige DeSorbo?

  And she was saying, she was like, I believe.

• 53:52Paige DeSorbo?

  She was like, I believe that if you are in a certain tax bracket and you make a certain amount of money a year, it, you should not be allowed to be bald. And I was like, elaborate. And she was like, as women, we're on TikTok all day being like, I got my lips done. I got my eyes done. Like I did all, this is what I did step by step. Because we have to, because if we don't continue to look good, like we get disregarded in society. And she was like, if you are a man and you make a certain amount of money, like you should have to get a hair transplant and not be bald.

• 54:25Hannah Berner?

  It's funny, some girls love a bald man.

• 54:29Paige DeSorbo?

  But do they? Or are we programmed? Is it the same thing as like a dad bod? Is it just the same thing? Because I know that if I walked out being bald, like I, I would have a very different climate.

• 54:43Hannah Berner?

  Yes, yes.

• 54:45Paige DeSorbo?

  And also normalize them giving us updates. Day 27, like, give me a 50 part series of your hair transplant. We can watch them for BBLs.

• 54:56Hannah Berner?

  Do you know who actually does that? Benedict Polizzi, who I love. He's a comedian from Indiana.

• 55:01Paige DeSorbo?

  He got a hair transplant?

• 55:02Hannah Berner?

  He got a hair transplant and he like takes photos of it and he just makes fun of it.

• 55:06Paige DeSorbo?

  I love it. A man of the people. Lean into it.

• 55:09Hannah Berner?

  Italian, so maybe we're, look.

• 55:11Paige DeSorbo?

  We love it. They just get it. They just fricking get it.

• 55:16Hannah Berner?

  What if Luigi posted in his manifesto, nobody left me a lasagna?

• 55:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, I'd be nervous because people would think that we were connected. Like, we'd be like, of course, and he's a giggler, like.

• 55:29Hannah Berner?

  Also, like, did they AI an Italian last name? Like, that's insane. That's the most Italian name I ever heard.

• 55:37Paige DeSorbo?

  It's just like, not a good week for our people.

• 55:39Hannah Berner?

  If he was like, really, really Italian, though, he would not go to McDonald's.

• 55:43Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that's what I'm saying. If he was like, really, really Italian, his mom wouldn't have reported him, like, missing. She would have found him. Like, there's just no way. You're not going missing. There's literally never been a missing child.

• 55:56Hannah Berner?

  Also, if you were working at that McDonald's and saw him, would you report it?

• 56:01Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't think, here's the thing, when people, when like, something happens and there's like, a manhunt and it's like, pictures of him posted everywhere in the strit, in the city. I'm, again, thinking about myself. There's no fucking way I'm walking into like, a Starbucks and being like, that's a guy, that's a guy. I'm not even looking at him.

• 56:20Hannah Berner?

  I'm gonna say something fucked up. No one's ever gotten an Amber Alert and been like, ooh, good, let me help this out. You're like, I'm in the middle of a text and you just interrupted my text.

• 56:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Everyone has the same reaction. Did you see the Amber Alert? That's crazy. Like, yeah, that's, like, horrible.

• 56:34Hannah Berner?

  Also, no one's ever gone in Amber Alert and like, ran outside to find the missing child. Also, has anyone ever found the missing child? They never give you the update. They just say that they're gone and then, nothing else.

• 56:46Paige DeSorbo?

  They never give you the update and usually, it's the dad. And most of the time, it's the frickin' dad.

• 56:52Hannah Berner?

  And actually, period. It's always, everything goes back to your dad.

• 56:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's the thing, wait, let me just say one thing.

• 56:59Hannah Berner?

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 57:01Paige DeSorbo?

  For how much we like, despise men, like, majority of the time and like, their actions and just like, overall characteristics. We do have to say that, like, we grew up with the best dads ever. So like, I wanna love men. I actually was born and programmed to love men. I do like them. But like, they're just so stupid most of the time.

• 57:25Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I like a self-aware man. Like, I like the men that like, are calling out their friends, but also leaning in.

• 57:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I like quiet ones. I like them quiet. I like them shh, shh.

• 57:36Hannah Berner?

  I feel like when they're quiet, they know things. Like, cause they're listening. Like, what is that like to listen?

• 57:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Be a listener.

• 57:43Hannah Berner?

  I'd be so smart if I didn't talk so much. If I retained any information from other people. Instead, I'm just walking around like, meow.

• 57:51Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that is literally, you walk around like that.

• 57:54Hannah Berner?

  So, you know, I was talking to these other male comics and they were talking about like, they're making jokes about, like, how women talk a lot, which is so funny. We don't know what, like, the male comics are joking about.

• 58:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, who cares?

• 58:06Hannah Berner?

  With their, like, girl jokes. I'm like, girls talk a lot? Joe Rogan has a four-hour podcast every fucking day. Girls talk a lot? We need to take a nap after forty-five minutes. Like, we're about to take a three-hour nap from yapping.

• 58:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Truly, truly.

• 58:21Hannah Berner?

  Truly, truly, truly.

• 58:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Joe is literally over there five hours a day.

• 58:26Hannah Berner?

  Can I say something I'm mad at with fashion?

• 58:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, yeah.

• 58:29Hannah Berner?

  Sling-back heels.

• 58:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Why?

• 58:33Hannah Berner?

  They don't fit my, my foot.

• 58:36Paige DeSorbo?

  They don't stay on. They don't stay up.

• 58:37Hannah Berner?

  They don't stay on. Like, if, what is the thing in the back for? Cause the sling-back just goes, falls off. And then I'm like...

• 58:44Paige DeSorbo?

  It has to be a good shoe. It has to be an expensive shoe.

• 58:48Hannah Berner?

  I'll buy, like, a two-hundred-dollar sling-back and it's not slinging.

• 58:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Really? It's not slinging?

• 58:53Hannah Berner?

  I think it needs stretch. It needs to have, like, stretch. It can't...

• 58:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't think you're putting it high enough up on your ankle. Are you putting it high enough up?

• 59:02Hannah Berner?

  I went to college. I don't think it should be that difficult for me to figure out how to wear a shoe. Like, if I have to maneuver it that much.

• 59:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Are your feet a little sweaty? It could just be...

• 59:11Hannah Berner?

  Yes, they're always sweaty. I do think also maybe there's not enough curvature in, like, the back of my foot that it doesn't, like, stay.

• 59:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I fear you've been ill-advised on sling-backs and...

• 59:24Hannah Berner?

  You, wait, so you're standing with sling-backs right now?

• 59:26Paige DeSorbo?

  I stand with sling-backs. I do stand with them. I think that, like, I like them. For a certain outfit, but I understand the frustration when they don't stay up.

• 59:37Hannah Berner?

  I think they look good, but like you, I can't even walk on stage with them.

• 59:40Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't think it's something that like we're gonna solve. I think that you just stay away from them.

• 59:46Hannah Berner?

  I feel like you don't care about me right now.

• 59:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I do care about you, but like, it's just like, I feel like there are certain things, no.

• 59:54Hannah Berner?

  You're not, like, I'm clearly struggling. I'm struggling and you're taking the side of my op.

• 59:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's what I'm gonna say.

• 1:00:00Hannah Berner?

  You're taking the sides of my enemies.

• 1:00:02Paige DeSorbo?

  There are certain things that I feel like as a female, like, you just do kind of live with because it's like, oh, it's just like a girl thing that we have to deal with. I'm more like, I just deal with it. Yeah. You're more like, I'll fight every man who invented this.

• 1:00:19Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so like, we're just different in that sense.

• 1:00:22Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I feel so bad because I forget who said it, but there's a girl on TikTok, you guys should search it, who was like, wait, so we have wireless drones, but we don't have a wireless hair dryer? She was like, we don't have wireless Dyson's even though we have wireless Dyson vacuums?

• 1:00:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 1:00:39Hannah Berner?

  What the f- either they don't care about women.

• 1:00:41Paige DeSorbo?

  They don't care.

• 1:00:42Hannah Berner?

  Or they want us to strangle ourselves with a cord.

• 1:00:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, there's so many sirens.

• 1:00:48Hannah Berner?

  That was the police telling us, stop calling people out on the pod.

• 1:00:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Speaking of.

• 1:00:54Hannah Berner?

  Speaking of.

• 1:00:55Paige DeSorbo?

  It's just the patriarchy.

• 1:00:57Hannah Berner?

  And Matilda Jerv's people. Sweden's arrived. You'd be surprised how many things like bosses will make their like office manager or their assistant do.

• 1:01:07Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 1:01:08Hannah Berner?

  And also, but this is the thing, bosses will, I think, get away with it a lot because the person says yes, so they think the person's cool with it, but like, you're not gonna say no to your boss. Like, I've done weird shit for bosses.

• 1:01:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Unless it's in my contract, get the fuck out of my face. Like, what? Do you have like an example of something that you're like, that, like, after where you're like, that was weird?

• 1:01:29Hannah Berner?

  I've def- oh, I've definitely saw like, this one boss made, um, this girl walk her dog every day.

• 1:01:37Hannah Berner?

  And then also made her make her breakfast every day, like avocado toast and stuff. It just seemed like unnecessary.

• 1:01:43Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what's so crazy at me as a boss, because I think I'm a people pleaser. Like, I feel like I work for them. Like, I am constantly apologizing to Josephine and Grace and being like, "I'm so sorry that I can't get my shit together to give you what you need so that you can send it off to whoever you need to work with." Like, I-

• 1:02:03Hannah Berner?

  Whenever I text Grace, I always go, "I'm so sorry for bothering you, but..."

• 1:02:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Same. And then so I'll be like, "Wait, I'm like a 32-year-old woman and like I pay them and I'm like scared of them." But I kind of love it too, because like if she comes over to my apartment or something and I'm ordering Starbucks, like,

• 1:02:24Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Hello? Like, it's just normal, like, human decency, I feel.

• 1:02:28Hannah Berner?

  It's also like low-key fun to be a boss, because you're like, "We can do whatever we want today."

• 1:02:33Paige DeSorbo?

  No, there are so many times where I'm like, "Should we just do like couch and like, and blankets? Like, go get your blanket."

• 1:02:41Hannah Berner?

  Sometimes I feel like I pressure her, like, I'm like, "We're getting bagels." And she's like, "I'm okay." And I'm like, "You don't want to everything bagel with scallion cream cheese and all this stuff." And she's like, "I'm fine." I'm like, "Let's fucking party with bagels right now."

• 1:02:52Paige DeSorbo?

  The other day, I said to Josephine, I said, "Would it be crazy if I got us a personal trainer and we worked out three times a week together? Because like I won't do it if someone else doesn't do it with me."

• 1:03:01Hannah Berner?

  See, that's where HR gets involved.

• 1:03:02Paige DeSorbo?

  And she was like, "Yeah, I mean, like, I'll do it with you, but like..."

• 1:03:06Hannah Berner?

  I made Grace do hip-hop yoga and like she liked it, but I also, I like was afraid to text her again to feel like she was like being forced to sweat and possibly faint in a hot hip-hop yoga.

• 1:03:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Whatever, we're fun bosses.

• 1:03:20Hannah Berner?

  We're fun! We're the cool, we're cool moms!

• 1:03:23Paige DeSorbo?

  We're cool. We're like, "Do whatever you freaking want."

• 1:03:27Hannah Berner?

  I know, we're like, "If you want to smoke a little weed, just don't tell him."

• 1:03:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm truly like that. I'm like, let's get high and figure this out.

• 1:03:35Hannah Berner?

  Speaking of bread, one more time, I ordered room service. I'm in LA.

• 1:03:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:38Hannah Berner?

  And I was like, I clicked like continental breakfast or whatever. And it didn't say anything about bread. So I wrote in the notes, can I please have sourdough bread? Then they start calling me because I like did it online. This is so unnecessary. And they're like, hi, it's extra for sourdough bread. Then I'm like, yes, just send me. Why is the, when is the bread not included with an egg breakfast? So then I'm fucking pissed. The bread comes, it's the smallest bread I've ever seen. Like, is bread, are they having a bread shortage? Like, what? It's sourdough. It's healthy.

• 1:04:14Paige DeSorbo?

  There's something with hotels, like adding, like things that are like add-ons that it's like, okay, well, that goes with it. And also, if you're a five-star hotel and you're not doing room service and you're still going through like COVID rules or something, or like, if you don't have room service as a hotel, what are you? You're an office space. Okay?

• 1:04:32Hannah Berner?

  You're WeWork.

• 1:04:33Paige DeSorbo?

  You're a literal WeWork. Get your shit together. Bring back room service with silverware. If you are at my door and you're handing it to me in a brown paper bag, I'm thinking the worst things in my head.

• 1:04:48Hannah Berner?

  Don't get me started about forks.

• 1:04:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, we won't.

• 1:04:55Hannah Berner?

  And we won't.

• 1:04:57Paige DeSorbo?

  And we absolutely will not. That's all the time we have for today.

• 1:05:03Hannah Berner?

  Stay positive for next week for my, um, my fork speech.

• 1:05:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Fork discussion continued.

• 1:05:11Hannah Berner?

  On NPR. I do have to say, I have a couple of stand-up dates I'd love you guys to come to. I'm going to Timonia, Maryland. I've never heard of that place, but I think it'll be fun. Actually, I think I've been there.

• 1:05:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Sounds like a boss.

• 1:05:25Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I'm going to, it sounds like a healthcare company. Irvine, Alabama, New Haven, Connecticut, Providence, Rhode Island, Brooks, California, Highland, California. See you there. Paige, what's going on with you?

• 1:05:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Nothing. I'm going to, I'm going to sleep till January, like 8th.

• 1:05:44Hannah Berner?

  Yes. Amazing.

• 1:05:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, actually, I'm gonna be on the Today Show on Wednesday morning. We're doing winter accessories. We're very excited.

• 1:05:54Hannah Berner?

  I love that. I was uninvited.

• 1:05:58Paige DeSorbo?

  They're like, hey, we got a call, actually just for Paige to come on with Hoda and Jenna. They said, leave the redhead at home.

• 1:06:06Hannah Berner?

  They go, leave the girl who came in with fake glasses and laughed too loud. No, you're doing your fashion segment, which is really, really fun. And you do a lot of research for it and you put a lot of work into it. So everyone-

• 1:06:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually do do a lot of research for it.

• 1:06:20Hannah Berner?

  You do. Everyone, go get your mom's cable password and watch Paige on the Today Show.

• 1:06:28Hannah Berner?

  We love you guys so much. Thank you for giggling with us. I hope you're all slowing down for the holidays.

• 1:06:39Speaker 04

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• 1:07:09Hannah Berner?

  Hey, it's Hannah and Paige. Thank you so much for tuning into Giggly Squad every week.

• 1:07:13Paige DeSorbo?

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