Trump's America is Less Weird & Why the Dems NEED Bernie

YERRRR, we're back and discussing Alexx's new big purchase, why the Dems are weird and how that was their downfall, pontificating on Crypto's potential new heights, breaking down our thoughts on the upcoming fights and much much more on today's episode of Flagrant. INDULGE 00:00 Intro 00:42 Alexx got a Cyber Truck + Tax deductibles 5:53 We didn’t get paid for Trump interview 9:41 Return of Barack? Perception of Dems 18:00 Dems are WEIRD 27:20 Destroying Bernie, Abortion + We need Primaries 41:00 Revolution? DEI’s impact + Can Collector Red Army 57:52 Dems spent over a Billy??? 59:15 People jockeying for Cabinet positions 1:03:00 Tom Homan is THAT LIFE + We need C0K3 1:21:21 Crypto is UP + leasing Cyber Truck 1:36:39 Don’t give Portnoy a reason to get up in the morning 1:34:29 What would you do for $12m? Zach Bryan diss track 1:43:59 Jake Paul v Mike Tyson 1:53:41 El Salvador is LIT 1:57:41 Akaash giving speech at Oxford Union 2:00:09 UFC - Jon Jones will win, Pereira & Best fights 2:10:08 You get a gift basket Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 1:55Speaker 03

  What's up everybody and welcome to Donald Trump's America, man. One week in, Al's nail polish has started to chip away, like I said. I haven't seen Al dress as masculine in so long. He's got Timberlands, he's got on the camo pants, a Knicks shirt, not a Liberty. Usually you walk in here with a fucking Diana Taurasi jersey and a campon dangling from your neck. But now we got masculine Al back in Donald Trump's America. Look at this shit. Mark got his chest sticking out, Akas almost matching. He got a collar that's only got one waffle on it. How could you not love Donald Trump's America?

• 2:28Speaker 04

  Almost.

• 2:29Speaker 03

  Doug hasn't said anything Jewish yet? No. Nature is healing! Honey, you know. Nature is healing! It might be good.

• 2:37Mark Gagnon?

  He bought a Cybertruck too.

• 2:39Speaker 03

  Who?

• 2:39Mark Gagnon?

  This guy.

• 2:40Speaker 03

  You bought a Cybertruck?

• 2:41Mark Gagnon?

  Elon.

• 2:42Speaker 04

  Oh, somebody told me, how did you not tell us this? Somebody tell me they saw you in a Cybertruck.

• 2:46Speaker 03

  What do you mean, what do you? You don't make big purchases without telling the boys. You have to bring it up. I just got it.

• 2:51Speaker 04

  Last week.

• 2:52Speaker 03

  You have to ask. But I had to put the wrap on it, it wasn't ready.

• 2:54Mark Gagnon?

  You made a commercial before you told us.

• 2:56Speaker 03

  Yeah. Wait, wait, you made a commercial?

• 2:59Mark Gagnon?

  Pull up the clip, Mark.

• 3:00Speaker 03

  Oh no, you didn't lease it through WTF.

• 3:03Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 3:05Mark Gagnon?

  Conveniently before year end.

• 3:06Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 3:08Speaker 04

  I arrested him! That's great, that's great.

• 3:11Speaker 03

  Someone had a good year, someone had a good year. We gotta spend some money for government taxes. Let me tell you something. Donald Trump is coming for your fucking Cybertruck, okay? Don't think for a second, WTF, and all the slander of Donald Trump that happened on those podcasts. He's not coming to collect. No, no, Donald Trump and Elon Musk's America, they let you have a Cybertruck.

• 3:34Speaker 04

  Probably gonna save even more after some of those employees get deported.

• 3:36Speaker 03

  That's a good ass point. You be hiring illegals so them and their families going. But that was one of the calls of this shit that Tom Homan passed on.

• 3:44Speaker 04

  Oh son, that was crazy.

• 3:45Speaker 03

  You know, that's, that's. You're gonna be opening up in Mexico, bro. That's gonna be hard. That's gonna be hard. Um, okay, so you got a Cybertruck without even telling the boys? Yeah, I just got it. It's nice. Did you originally pay the hundred dollars to get the, uh, the right to buy one, you remember that?

• 3:58Speaker 04

  No, yeah, we never got a refund on that.

• 4:00Speaker 03

  What do you mean refund?

• 4:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, we never got a.

• 4:02Mark Gagnon?

  Buy a Cybertruck.

• 4:02Speaker 03

  I could buy a Cybertruck.

• 4:04Mark Gagnon?

  I'm glad. So I was at, I asked Tanya if I can get your, like, whatever, what you put down a down payment for? Because they weren't letting everybody buy. Only the people were able to buy the foundation series Cybertruck, which was a hundred thousand dollars. Were the people who put down a hundred dollars. And then I waited a couple of weeks and they dropped it to eighty thousand dollars. So all the people who bought that first Cybertruck, the only difference is that on the side of the truck, it just has, it says foundation.

• 4:32Speaker 03

  I mean, that is.

• 4:33Mark Gagnon?

  But the truck is exactly the same.

• 4:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, but every. You're describing sneakers.

• 4:41Speaker 03

  It just says Supreme on it.

• 4:50Mark Gagnon?

  Trump's America, I'm not saying.

• 4:53Speaker 03

  It just says Nike on it.

• 4:56Speaker 03

  It just says Nike on it. Bought you by the K-Swiss. You got the K-Swiss Cybertruck?

• 5:04Speaker 03

  Please tell me you didn't get the K-Swiss.

• 5:07Mark Gagnon?

  Elon's the greatest man in the world right now.

• 5:10Speaker 03

  Are you all in? He's always been on Tesla. You've always been on Tesla.

• 5:15Mark Gagnon?

  I was on Tesla early.

• 5:16Speaker 03

  Black owned business or African owned business?

• 5:18Mark Gagnon?

  There you go.

• 5:20Speaker 03

  So this is the video. Can we watch the video? That you made?

• 5:28Speaker 03

  Why do you need a car for, for, for a podcast studio?

• 5:33Mark Gagnon?

  Because we do production, we do offsite productions where we have to travel with equipment.

• 5:42Speaker 03

  That is true. It's a lot of lights.

• 5:43Mark Gagnon?

  A lot of lights, a lot of cameras. We do major productions over there.

• 5:46Speaker 03

  You do. So you drive the gear. So you drive the gear?

• 5:49Mark Gagnon?

  I do.

• 5:50Speaker 03

  Do you guys own the gear or do you guys rent it when you do these? Oh, wow. You could have written that off too.

• 6:01Speaker 03

  Fucking, well, what are we supposed to buy before the end of the year?

• 6:03Mark Gagnon?

  It's the end of the year.

• 6:04Speaker 03

  My wife acting like diamonds are tax deductible or some shit. I called her this morning. I woke up my alarm. She's scrolling some shit on the phone. I'm like, what the hell is this woman doing?

• 6:17Speaker 03

  Say it.

• 6:18Mark Gagnon?

  I figured that's why you just went to Paris.

• 6:19Speaker 03

  I did that to avoid everything else.

• 6:23Speaker 03

  I did that because there wasn't enough family drama.

• 6:27Speaker 03

  That's why I like every, every, every time shit is too good in the family. Why don't we take a trip and see if we can just spontaneously combust this entire thing? That's always fun. You know what I mean? These are too calm. Yeah. Things are way too hard. Yo, one of the things that's crazy, it's actually shocking to me is how well women get along with their in-laws.

• 6:46Speaker 04

  It's crazy. It's crazy. It's just like, dude, the power.

• 6:49Speaker 03

  Why can't we do it?

• 6:50Speaker 04

  I know. I wish, dude.

• 6:51Speaker 03

  What's wrong with men?

• 6:52Speaker 04

  They really are the fairest sex.

• 6:53Speaker 03

  They really are the fairest sex. Like, what's wrong with men and Donald Trump's America that we can't just get along with our in-laws? But these women do it swimmingly.

• 7:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's just like, they really, they are the change they want to see in the world.

• 7:04Speaker 03

  They truly are the change. It, it really goes to show you that men really cause all the problems.

• 7:09Speaker 04

  We do.

• 7:09Speaker 03

  Because when we're hanging out with the relatives, there's, there's beef nonstop, but like when they.

• 7:14Speaker 04

  Like, we really just take the smallest slight and make a big deal and then we bring it up to our spouses later and make them get involved. It's like, why? Why do we do that?

• 7:22Speaker 03

  I think the reason we do it is so we can add two to three more podcasts a week.

• 7:28Speaker 03

  You think Kamala's in-laws voted for her? Be honest. Hell, no. Hell, no. You don't think they voted? No.

• 7:36Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. They're Jewish, right? They went MAGA all the way, dude.

• 7:38Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. They were voting for Donald J. Trump. Okay, yo, so here's the thing that I need to just point out that I think is very important, okay? Mark brought this to my attention, but also social media and TikTok did. I did not know that you could get payouts to do interviews with presidential candidates.

• 7:55Speaker 04

  This is crazy.

• 7:56Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. Here we go, right? Innocently spending our own money to create beautiful sets, tens of thousands of dollars. Yeah. To create beautiful sets outside. Hiring stinky Russians. Hiring smelly Russian women to make what this woman had. I, I, listen, I felt, I never felt more bad for Ukraine. I go, is this what y'all got to do? Is this what y'all got to do on a daily basis? Chemical warfare. Ooh, bringing the drones. I had to apologize to Mark. I'm like, Mark, you're the former president.

• 8:29Mark Gagnon?

  And then when it was her, I was like, my bad.

• 8:34Speaker 03

  And Trump married one, crazy.

• 8:36Speaker 04

  That's true.

• 8:37Speaker 03

  This is, listen, that's a ballsy guy.

• 8:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:41Speaker 03

  Point is, point is, we dealt with the smell of that Russian woman. Okay, we spent tens of thousands of dollars to create a beautiful set to respect the future president, right? We reach out to Kamala, we're willing to do the exact same thing. We're reaching out to, and we'll reach out to Bill Clinton, we're willing to do the exact same thing.

• 8:59Speaker 04

  We'll spend all our money.

• 9:00Speaker 03

  We'll spend our own, we didn't even know that you could hit him up. Lo and behold, all these celebrities that did interviews with him are getting paid millions of dollars.

• 9:10Mark Gagnon?

  Allegedly.

• 9:11Speaker 03

  Allegedly, thank you Mark. Now, we're the bad guys. We're the bad guys for platforming the current president at the time, right? But these celebrities, these celebrities whose votes are for sale, get no criticism? That's a little peculiar.

• 9:31Speaker 03

  Isn't that a little peculiar?

• 9:33Speaker 04

  A little bit peculiar.

• 9:35Speaker 03

  I mean, twerking for Kamala costs three million dollars?

• 9:39Mark Gagnon?

  When we would have done it for a couple thousand.

• 9:42Speaker 03

  Yo, if all, if all it took was for us to wear the tight spandex and you see that moose and we shake that ass and make its nose clap. If that's all it took and we get three million, Al, you know how many Cybertrucks you could buy for three million dollars? Al, think about it.

• 10:02Speaker 03

  How much did she get paid? Oprah got paid too. Apparently Oprah got the million, now she's saying she did. All I'm trying to say is if you really...

• 10:08Mark Gagnon?

  So you're saying Trump ain't paying nobody?

• 10:10Speaker 03

  We didn't get paid. Not, we're bad business.

• 10:12Mark Gagnon?

  I didn't ask.

• 10:13Speaker 03

  Or maybe Mark did. Can I respect, can I, can I give a little respect to Dove? The second that, that image came out with how much money they paid out all the celebs to pretend to endorse Kamala?

• 10:26Speaker 03

  Mar, I mean, Dove hit up R Connect over at the Trump team, Alex, okay? Alex Bruschew, I don't know how to pronounce his last fucking Polish ass name. But he's the real guy that's connecting to all the podcasts. I know Baron is getting a lot of credit for it right now. We never spoke to Baron, I have no fucking clue. But Alex is the one that was doing all the work to connect all the podcasts. Well done with Alex. Almost lost the election getting Tony to go up there and do a run. So that was, and I knew that he was the one that pitched the idea because as the results were coming in and Puerto Ricans were voting for Trump, he was like, I told you it wasn't gonna be an issue.

• 10:59Speaker 03

  Anyway. Uh, he goes, uh, he immediately texts the group and he goes, hey, I just want to let you know, we didn't know that we could hit y'all up for money, for this and, and for production costs, right? And he goes, and we looked at the numbers, you guys raised 384 billion, you only spent 351, so it looks like you got a little bit of extra.

• 11:19Speaker 04

  I love that.

• 11:20Speaker 03

  Time to throw it back to the boys.

• 11:21Speaker 04

  I love that.

• 11:22Mark Gagnon?

  Or just when he runs for his third term, we just get it then.

• 11:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think that that's a good idea.

• 11:26Mark Gagnon?

  When Trump goes for his third term.

• 11:28Speaker 03

  We have sleepover nights at the White House. Yeah. Yeah. Have you heard, have you heard this one, uh, where maybe it was you that brought this up, uh, when we were sitting down, but, uh, if he goes for the third term, do the Dems bring Barack for the third term?

• 11:41Speaker 04

  Son, that's it. That's Floyd versus Pacquiao, that's, that's, you know, that's what we want to see. That's what we want to see.

• 11:50Mark Gagnon?

  Everything's wrestling, bro. We just want good matchups.

• 11:53Speaker 03

  We just want good matchups, right?

• 11:55Mark Gagnon?

  Uh, do you care more about term limits or matchups?

• 11:57Speaker 03

  I want matchups, baby.

• 11:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:59Speaker 03

  I want match, after we fix all this nonsense, I want matchups.

• 12:02Speaker 04

  Election mania.

• 12:03Speaker 03

  I think we should, dude, since everything is wrestling, maybe we should take a little time and, and help the Democrats understand the wrestling of their party. Because I think Republicans understand the wrestling of their party.

• 12:14Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, they sure do.

• 12:15Speaker 03

  They, they really get the wrestling more than anything.

• 12:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:19Speaker 03

  It's probably the most important thing to them, is the wrestling. We'd like maybe a little bit more focus on policy.

• 12:24Mark Gagnon?

  I mean, but they get it so much, they got Hulk Hogan up there.

• 12:26Speaker 03

  They get it. There's, there's a moment, I hope you guys can bring this up, this shit cracked me up. RFK is on, shout out to RFK, he's a real one, bro. This mother, this motherfucker is like, uh, you know, uh, uh, he's like Mariah the Scientist to Donald Trump.

• 12:46Speaker 03

  He is riding for Donald Trump. So, so he's on Tucker Carlson's pod and, uh, you know, I don't know if somehow it brings up geopolitics, right? And Tucker's like, yeah, so you know, what do you think about Donald Trump? And then, uh, RFK goes, I remember I was on a plane with him and he was telling me about the, the Middle East and he brought out a napkin and he drew, uh, a map of the Middle East and, and told me the number of troops we had in each one of these locations in the Middle East. And Tucker goes, wait, are you telling me that Donald Trump drew a map of the Middle East from memory? He goes, yeah, from memory. Tucker just goes.

• 13:28Speaker 03

  But you need that kind of ride or die wrestling.

• 13:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 13:31Speaker 03

  In order to push the agenda. So do we help the Dems?

• 13:36Mark Gagnon?

  That's what we call it out, ride or die wrestling? Ultimate dick sucking.

• 13:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, you need someone to completely lie. Oh, here it is. Go, go.

• 13:43Mark Gagnon?

  That's crazy.

• 13:44Speaker 04

  Make sure I got this right. Trump on the plane the other day drew a map of the Middle East. An accurate map.

• 13:50Speaker 03

  An accurate map of the Middle East.

• 13:52Speaker 04

  With troop strength.

• 13:53Speaker 03

  Yes, with troop strength in each of the nations. So, you know, I saw that.

• 14:04Speaker 03

  Even Tucker, who is the mad person.

• 14:09Speaker 03

  Erica could have kept that shit out, but he's like, no, this is too crazy. R M K out here trying to unvaccinate us, saying shit like that.

• 14:18Mark Gagnon?

  That is crazy.

• 14:20Speaker 03

  Anyway, um, okay, so, so.

• 14:23Speaker 04

  The wrestling for Democrats.

• 14:25Speaker 03

  So, so, okay, what, what is most important? Because I think the goal for most sane Americans is we have two options for president every single election, and they're both awesome.

• 14:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:39Speaker 03

  And it's really tricky which one we have to go for.

• 14:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:42Speaker 03

  And, um, you know, that, that's how you know that we're in a pretty good situation.

• 14:47Speaker 04

  Right.

• 14:47Speaker 03

  Right?

• 14:48Speaker 04

  That's the ideal. That's the dream.

• 14:49Speaker 03

  We're, we're not so tribal that we're just like, oh, fuck Democrats or oh, fuck Republicans. It's, we would like two people who are really speaking to the things that are bothering us.

• 14:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:57Speaker 03

  And they're gonna go satisfy those things. Fair enough?

• 14:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:00Speaker 03

  How do we do that? Obviously, the, the election showed the Democrats are a little bit off from what the majority of people want.

• 15:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:08Speaker 03

  Now, their policies might actually satisfy what those people want. They might have good policies for working class people. They might have good policies for labor. They might have good policies for, they might even have good policies for the border. I don't even fucking know what their border thing is. I thought that their messaging was horrible. But their messaging has one and been horrible. And two, the perception of them.

• 15:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:29Speaker 03

  Is atrocious. This is where we get into the wrestling.

• 15:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:32Speaker 03

  So, let's just have a very honest discussion. What is the perception of the Democratic Party right now?

• 15:41Speaker 04

  Identity politics. Leftists have taken over. They don't care about any working, everyday American. They only care about these kind of fringe groups. That's the perception.

• 15:50Speaker 03

  Would you guys say that that's a part of it?

• 15:53Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that's definitely part of it. I also think they're not addressing the things people care about the most and not trying to separate that just to me to fuck off.

• 16:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, like what's that thing? What's that?

• 16:09Mark Gagnon?

  How do you keep talking with that?

• 16:12Speaker 03

  But.

• 16:12Mark Gagnon?

  Why should you have a scarf? Look at that neck. That's warm.

• 16:14Speaker 04

  I think they were, I think they were great as the bad guy in Monsters Inc.

• 16:20Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 16:22Speaker 03

  That's the secretary of hell.

• 16:23Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, the problem they didn't separate, well, Kamala didn't separate herself from Biden's four years and I think with now a break, they'll have a fresh start over.

• 16:36Speaker 04

  Just what's the perception?

• 16:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, let's just go off of perception.

• 16:42Speaker 03

  Not what the policies are because unfortunately in politics and in life, like for example, and I said this when we were having a meeting the other day, like there are people who know nothing about us. They see Donald Trump on our pod and they're like, oh, they're a right wing podcast, right? I have to live with that perception. You guys have to live with that perception from people who don't really know what we're about.

• 17:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:01Speaker 03

  Right?

• 17:01Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, unfortunate.

• 17:02Speaker 03

  So, and that is the cost and then we can decide to address that or we can decide to just keep on making content. It's up to us. What I think is there is a disconnect between what the Democrats think they are and how the American public perceives them.

• 17:17Speaker 04

  And perception is so strong to use his personal, there's people who know me who are like, oh, you're a right wing bubble. I'm like, you know me pretty well. I would think you know me better than that, but perception is so powerful. It doesn't matter how much I know about you personally, even then. So Democrats, perception.

• 17:37Speaker 04

  I'm more extreme than MAGA.

• 17:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think America was his greatest hundreds of years ago.

• 17:47Speaker 04

  But the perception, so that's our point is, people like Jon Stewart had a great piece about what the liberals actually are, and everybody thinks the Democrats, identity politics, blah, blah, blah. But you've hit it perfectly. The perception is not what, even if reality is this, the perception is, it's leftist, it's libs of TikTok people, it's whatever.

• 18:06Speaker 03

  This is the perception of Democrats from the average, I think, American. Pretentious weirdos.

• 18:11Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 18:12Speaker 03

  Weird. They're everything weird. Anything weird you can imagine is them.

• 18:17Speaker 04

  And if I don't love your weirdness, I'm not.

• 18:20Speaker 03

  Exactly, exactly. So like, just to assess the weird thing, Republicans used to be the weirdos. The perception of Republicans is like, oh, these like, country hillbillies, having snakes bite them in church and all this weird.

• 18:32Speaker 04

  Jesus freaks and puritanical.

• 18:36Mark Gagnon?

  I'm just curious, because like, Walz hit them with that weird shit early, and that's your like, no, that, it made, it made a little wave.

• 18:43Speaker 03

  So this is the thing, I think there was like, a little wave here, but then the second you saw Vance talk for a long period of time, you're like, oh shit, he's not really weird. Right? So this, so they try to push a narrative, because the media is very powerful. Like we said, left-wing media is so powerful, it convinces this election was close. Up to the day of, we're like, fuck, I don't know who's gonna win. So, left-wing media is very powerful. They try to push the weird thing, but when you see him talk for two hours, you're like, oh, he's not weird. What's weird is Tim Walz saying he was in Tiananmen Square.

• 19:16Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 19:17Speaker 03

  You know what I mean? Like, and then going, I'm a goofy guy. It's like, oh, you should be second in charge of America when you call yourself a goofy guy?

• 19:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:24Speaker 03

  I don't want the guy who says that he's goofy, second in charge. Right? You go, I'm a serious guy, who's about serious shit. Stand on that lie. Be like, I was there.

• 19:36Speaker 03

  I'm Tim Walz, stand on that lie. So I say, I was in Tiananmen Square, say I wasn't.

• 19:41Mark Gagnon?

  Trump America is crazy.

• 19:42Speaker 03

  Son, you gotta say, say I wasn't. Say I wasn't. Find one bitch could say I wasn't. Do you know what I mean? That's, I literally, that's what you gotta do.

• 19:52Speaker 04

  That was Tim Walz right there.

• 19:54Mark Gagnon?

  I'd claim that picture, bro. That's me.

• 19:56Speaker 03

  That's me in the second tank. If the first don't get her, I got her.

• 20:00Speaker 03

  Say I wasn't, you gotta stand on the lie. Tim Walz tried to force Gump his way into the vice presidency. He said he won gold medal in the ping pong Olympics. So, the idea that they're these like, it's just the party of like weird shit, right? Anything weird is them. If you're a little weird or off, you're them. Now, here's the problem. When you're weird, it's okay to be weird and we actually accept you being weird if you acknowledge you're being weird. Right? If I'm walking around with a dick on my head, right? And you come up and you're like, yo, why you got a dick on your head? And I go, what, you don't believe in expression? What are you, a fucking Nazi or something like that? The fuck is wrong with you?

• 20:44Speaker 03

  You guys are like, alright, I don't want anything to do with this fucking weirdo, right? If I go, I lost a fucking fantasy football thing and this is the punishment, then you guys start going, oh, okay, this is a fucking guy, he's in a fantasy football league, he's a normal dude. The problem with the Democrat perception right now is they will be weird as fuck and if you question it, you're a Nazi. Why are you allowed to win a gold medal for beating the shit out of women as a man in the Olympics? What are you, fucking an animal that thinks that a woman can't have a dick and balls? They'll say that out of their mouths on CNN. They're like, why can't women have a dick and balls and beat the shit out of other women who don't have a dick and balls?

• 21:26Mark Gagnon?

  Did she still have her gold medal, did she keep it?

• 21:28Speaker 03

  They gotta take that shit back. That is crazy, it's he, now we know.

• 21:33Mark Gagnon?

  Well, what is it? What does he identify as?

• 21:35Speaker 03

  Oh, that's right, whatever, again. So, perfect example, right? So, it's just the party of, it's like, the drag queen comes in to like read books to the kids. And the dad who works like in construction goes, man, what happened today? Yeah, a guy dressed in makeup came in and read books to us. And he goes, What's up with the drag queen reading with books to the kids? And then the school goes, "Oh, I'm sorry, are you trying to raise a bigot that's not accepting of the drag? We're like, what the fuck is a drag queen reading to the kids for? You have to go, "Oh, no, it's actually not a drag queen. We had different versions of clowns coming in and one clown dressed as a clown." Do you know what I mean? It's more of a clown thing and we thought the clowns are kind of funny.

• 22:18Speaker 03

  And then the dad goes, "Oh, I like clowns. Okay, that's fine." You can't immediately slap the person in the face for asking a question while you're being weird.

• 22:27Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 22:27Speaker 03

  And I think that's what a lot of people are voting against, which is, "We gotta stop pretending we're not being weird over here."

• 22:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:37Speaker 03

  And I think it's gonna take Democrats acknowledging, at least acknowledging, "Hey, we're the party of acceptance, but sometimes we're accepting things that are a little out there for people, so let's do a little explaining."

• 22:51Speaker 04

  Also, Donald Trump put that on the part. Dude, I sent this ad to the group when I first saw it as the, "Donald Trump is for you. Kamala is for they/them."

• 22:58Speaker 03

  Bars.

• 22:58Speaker 04

  What a fucking ad. And it's got Charlamagne, who's openly a Kamala supporter, being like, saying Kamala wants to support surgery for prisoners, blah, blah, blah. I'm not into that. Then Kamala's saying, "Yeah, I wanna do that."

• 23:11Speaker 03

  Saying your pronouns before I ask you is like weird. Has that ever happened? It's just weird. You're just being weird. I agree. I agree.

• 23:19Mark Gagnon?

  Would you admit you didn't like that haircut that you had?

• 23:22Speaker 03

  Would I?

• 23:24Mark Gagnon?

  That was a version of the dick on the head.

• 23:26Speaker 03

  But to anybody that said, "Yo, your haircut's stupid." I go, "Yeah, I know, it's stupid."

• 23:31Mark Gagnon?

  No. You said you liked it at first.

• 23:33Speaker 03

  Alex.

• 23:34Mark Gagnon?

  You said you liked it.

• 23:35Speaker 03

  But me liking it doesn't mean that I don't acknowledge how absurd it is.

• 23:39Speaker 04

  So I see what you're saying.

• 23:40Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, okay. I've never heard you acknowledging it.

• 23:42Speaker 04

  Imagine if he goes, "Well, you don't like this haircut? What the fuck is wrong with you, you dickhead? Well, you don't like this hair? What's your problem?" Stop now. No, he would say it's a shit and he would pretend he was gonna start a trend. And then anytime someone does it, he still takes credit for it.

• 23:53Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I know.

• 23:54Speaker 04

  But that's different than you're fucked.

• 23:56Speaker 03

  I understand the point you're making, but like for me, when I was on stage, I would make jokes about how I looked like. I said I looked like Kim Jong January 6th, right? Like I was just, I would just make absurd jokes about myself and how stupid I looked with it. So like, I was aware of how ridiculous it was.

• 24:12Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 24:12Speaker 03

  But, and there's a part of me that like likes trolling people.

• 24:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:17Speaker 03

  But then, when I saw other people starting to do it, I was like... Oh, you better keep that same energy when Ronaldo does it. If you make fun of me with it, and then when Ronaldo does it, now it's cool, or Kid Super did it. Now it's cool. Then I'm gonna be like, yo, keep the same energy. But I.

• 24:32Mark Gagnon?

  To your point, that is, you acknowledge that it's.

• 24:35Speaker 03

  I did the weird dumb thing. Maybe I like weird dumb shit, and maybe people like being weirded up, that's totally fine. But I can at least acknowledge anybody that was like.

• 24:43Speaker 04

  If guy, if dick on the head guy from his earlier hypothetical just goes, I'm weird.

• 24:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, you know.

• 24:48Speaker 04

  You'd be like, alright, there you go, thank you.

• 24:50Speaker 03

  You know, it's so funny, I didn't even need to do dick on the head, I could have done my haircut. That example was perfectly weird.

• 24:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's how normalized that haircut was to me.

• 25:00Speaker 03

  But that was essentially wearing a dick on my head for a year and a half.

• 25:05Speaker 03

  But, but, but good example, right? And how annoying would I be if I was like, oh, what, you just don't know fashion? That's the Dems, essentially.

• 25:13Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 25:13Speaker 03

  Okay?

• 25:14Mark Gagnon?

  Alright, I get it.

• 25:15Mark Gagnon?

  Most furries, probably Democrats.

• 25:17Speaker 03

  Furries?

• 25:18Mark Gagnon?

  And that's fine, you can be a furry.

• 25:19Speaker 03

  Be a furry!

• 25:20Mark Gagnon?

  But you're probably a Democrat.

• 25:21Speaker 04

  Most furries are Democrats.

• 25:23Mark Gagnon?

  Alright, what about war reenactment motherfuckers?

• 25:25Speaker 03

  Oh, that's not a furry.

• 25:26Mark Gagnon?

  That's gotta be Republican, that's gotta be Republican.

• 25:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that's weird shit that they don't acknowledge, that's weird shit.

• 25:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, but if they, they don't pretend you're an asshole, again, the big divide is, Democrats pretend you're evil for not accepting their weird thing. If you go to a Civil War guy and you're like, um, that shit is weird to me, they're not gonna be like, well, you don't like history? What, you're not like the freedom of a country?

• 25:46Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, they really would actually start to.

• 25:49Speaker 04

  If those people got loud, fuck that.

• 25:50Mark Gagnon?

  They'd be like, bro, I'm from the 1800s, you don't, you don't think I can identify, is it the 1800s?

• 25:56Speaker 03

  Dude, they're so embarrassed to do those things. They're so embarrassed.

• 26:00Mark Gagnon?

  I haven't met anybody.

• 26:01Speaker 04

  There's not enough, if they got really loud and really started to like have, cause ripples in like the Republican Party, we'd be like, yo, fuck Republicans.

• 26:08Speaker 03

  Like, right now, there's, right now, there's like a, I imagine a small faction of, of women that are saying they're gonna protest the results of the election by not having sex with men anymore and shaving their heads.

• 26:18Mark Gagnon?

  Right, the 4B, the 4B movement?

• 26:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, the 4B movement, in Korea, apparently, I guess, South Korea, I'm assuming, uh, women stopped having sex with men because the men were just so, so toxic and such assholes and whatever. And then the birth rate dropped, or stopped getting, stopped giving birth. And then the birth rate is dropping and the government's panicking, and they're like, nah, fuck you, fix the men. We're just not gonna have babies.

• 26:38Mark Gagnon?

  And so now women in America are co-opting this.

• 26:41Speaker 03

  Y'all love dick too much, shut up. There ain't no way that you could follow through like two months from then, maybe. But nah, you coming back, you coming back, you know what I mean?

• 26:50Mark Gagnon?

  But they got dildos, they can get a dildo.

• 26:53Speaker 03

  But they can't disappoint them.

• 26:56Speaker 03

  If you really want a good dildo, the battery will go out after like a minute and thirty seconds.

• 27:02Mark Gagnon?

  This is so realistic. This dildo is insanely realistic, too.

• 27:05Speaker 03

  No, so there's a per example, it's just like.

• 27:07Speaker 04

  A polio test to you after, not normal.

• 27:10Speaker 03

  You're being weird and you're pretending you're not being weird. And we need to at least have those conversations. And I think that there's this great umbrella that a lot of these things fit under. They're very frustrating for guys. And not only guys, I imagine a lot of women are frustrated by too. But it's a very just frustrating culture to live within. And most people, because they live in corporate America, work in corporate America, they're like, I'm not gonna touch it, I'm not gonna broach it because I don't wanna get fired, I don't wanna cause an issue at work, I don't even wanna have an uncomfortable conversation. And then they went into the booth and they did all their talking in that booth. And I think for Democrats to, they either need to acknowledge that or, and this is another good argument that I that I read, is they need to make a move

• 27:54Speaker 03

  towards what Bernie Sanders did in 2016.

• 27:57Speaker 04

  Yes, 100%.

• 27:58Speaker 03

  There was an article I read and I thought that positioned this pretty well and, you know, could be bullshit, but I thought there was kind of interesting take, which was essentially Bernie Sanders spearheads this movement for the Democratic Party that is derivative of Democratic politics, but not controlled by the traditional leaders within the Democratic Party. And it is a working class movement, trying to help working class people who are absolutely struggling, this is 2016, and it gets incredibly popular. It's raising money.

• 28:30Speaker 04

  Democratic socialism, yeah.

• 28:32Speaker 03

  It was democratic socialism, but it's really just focused on the working class, right? There's no racial component at all. The only identity politics that was wrapped around it was essentially wealth inequality.

• 28:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:41Speaker 03

  And it's so popular that apparently the traditional Democrats who control the Democratic Party had to find a way to thwart the popularity. So what they did is, and I don't know if you remember articles coming up about this, but essentially they started calling the Bernie bros.

• 29:01Speaker 03

  Sexist and racist. There's a Bernie bro problem. Bernie supporters have an issue. Not too dissimilar to what they've been calling the bro podcasts sexist or racist. It's kind of the same playbook. It's like you see something very powerful that's helping somebody that is not you. You have to make them radioactive so people don't go in that direction. And all the same thing they said about Bernie supporters, they've said about the podcasts that have allegedly helped Trump get elected. And what that what happened is the traditional Democrat Party then had to pivot away from the working class. And as you see by this election, the working class did not really support them at all. And they even lost union support.

• 29:42Mark Gagnon?

  Crazy.

• 29:42Speaker 03

  And they had to pivot towards identity politics. And now they had to constantly appease the intersectionality folk. And the problem with them is you're not just appeasing gays or just appeasing trans. They are all very concerned with oppressed groups. So something that oppresses the Asians, all of a sudden the gays are gonna be like, well, they're an oppressed group too. You need to look out for them as well. And now there's this web of oppressed groups. So now the Democratic Party is like, fuck, we can't piss off any of them. And now they're frozen.

• 30:13Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, they can be at odds. Like you saw with the DEI stuff, like, hey, we're gonna, we're gonna stop doing, like, we'll get more affirmative action, get, you know, people of different ethnicities in school. And it's like, well, this is disadvantaging Asians. And it's like, oh, fuck.

• 30:26Speaker 03

  Now the Democrats are frozen.

• 30:28Mark Gagnon?

  Now we're starting Asian hate.

• 30:29Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 30:29Mark Gagnon?

  God, it makes it.

• 30:31Speaker 03

  So you try to appease everybody because you've become the party of identity politics. And then you appease none of them. And as you saw what happened, obviously, in Israel, Palestine, right now, a lot of those people were absolutely furious with the Democratic Party.

• 30:43Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 30:44Speaker 03

  And decided to abstain. They maybe didn't vote for Trump, but they're like, we're definitely not voting for this administration.

• 30:48Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 30:49Speaker 03

  So that move, I think, tanked.

• 30:53Speaker 04

  I think I think tank the party.

• 30:55Mark Gagnon?

  Do you think that justifies the top ticket switch in a lot of swing states? Like people voting Democrats down the line, but then voting Trump for president, which a lot of people pointed out as potential voter fraud. That a lot of these swing states, you have people that are Democrat, Democrat, everything local, Senate, House, everything Democrat, and then Trump for president. And people are like, we've never seen that ever in history.

• 31:15Speaker 04

  AOC asked, to her credit, she's been kind of like reaching across the aisle ideologically, asking like, what podcasts do y'all listen to that, whatever you're Trump guy? Also, why would y'all do this? And she got answers back. Some people were like, look, I don't, I'm not happy with the presidency. I'm not happy with the last, the last four years ago. I'm still a Democrat. Some people just being like, I like Trump, but I do want some balance in the, in the government. I don't want it to be completely red. So there were seemingly real answers and explanations on why people did that.

• 31:42Mark Gagnon?

  Interesting.

• 31:43Mark Gagnon?

  Another interesting thing I saw is that, um, so Kamala made a lot of her election run about abortion. And clearly people want their abortions because more, they, they assume that, oh, if people go out to vote to keep abortion rights, they're also going to vote for Kamala. But there were so many more votes for abortion rights, but then also for Trump.

• 32:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:07Mark Gagnon?

  So it's like, they bet on that and it failed.

• 32:10Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. People just buy more groceries than abortion.

• 32:12Speaker 03

  But also she couldn't really do anything for abortion.

• 32:17Speaker 04

  If they had all three, they could codify it, I guess.

• 32:19Speaker 03

  But they don't have all three.

• 32:20Mark Gagnon?

  The thing that's crazy is that so in, I think, 2022, um, there was like seven states that had abortion rights on the ballot and all seven states abortion rights won.

• 32:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 32:33Mark Gagnon?

  And so they were like, so now they saw that they're like, okay, let's run this time because people actually came out in the midterm elections, which rarely happens. So they ran on that. But to separate those two things, you have to combine Kamala with abortion rights. But the fact that you can vote for one and not the other, that's what fucked her up.

• 32:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:51Mark Gagnon?

  Because like now, it's like people like, hey, this is the issue I care about.

• 32:54Speaker 04

  But it is kind of.

• 32:55Mark Gagnon?

  You actually made me care about this issue enough to come out, but I'm only voting on that issue. And then if you make your whole election or your campaign about this one issue.

• 33:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:03Mark Gagnon?

  But what about all the other thing I care about and you're not addressing those things? It's like.

• 33:06Speaker 03

  I think.

• 33:07Mark Gagnon?

  She kind of fucked herself up.

• 33:08Speaker 03

  I think the tricky thing about that is just the way that the system is set up is that Kamala couldn't come in and do an executive order or anything that would protect or, or, or give back abortion rights. And that was an issue actually for me voting for is, is, cause I sat there and I thought about it and I was like, well, yeah, I really, I don't agree with the decision to send it back to the states and I want women to be able to maintain those rights. Like even, there's a lot, it's, I don't know if we've discussed this on the pod, but like it's, and I've talked to a few women about this, it's, it's not even like they're going to use the abortions. It's once you feel you have something and then it's taken away. It's like if somebody goes, you can never go to a hockey game again. And it's like, well, I wasn't going to go to a hockey game, but fuck it, I might want to go to a fucking hockey game. You know, it's like.

• 33:53Speaker 04

  And this is much the most high stakes version of that.

• 33:55Speaker 03

  Exactly. Like if it was even something that small, I would be like, well, why can they go to a fucking hot, but I can, what the fuck is going on? You just start to feel, it, it feels like an attack on your freedom. I know that sounds crazy for guys who it doesn't affect us in any, in any way, but I get the idea women are like, I could do this thing. And now you're telling me I can't do this thing.

• 34:19Mark Gagnon?

  The gun thing you talked about last week, like you can't have a rocket launcher anymore. It's like, well, I didn't have them.

• 34:23Speaker 03

  But I'm, well, now I fucking won't. Why, why do you get to decide if I can have a rocket launcher?

• 34:27Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 34:28Speaker 03

  So, but then when I found out, cause I asked, I was like, okay, let's say she gets elected, what would she do? And then it's like, well, she can't do anything. Maybe she could put in Supreme Court justices if she had the opportunity. And then maybe they could look at, I guess, Roe v. Wade again. And then maybe if they were able to flip dissent in the house, they could codify it, codify it?

• 34:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:50Speaker 03

  Uh, so it's like, there's all these maybes, but there wasn't anything tangible that she could do. So I'm like, am I about to not care about all these other issues that I think that she's abysmal on? For this one issue that she truly cannot do anything about. And it didn't, didn't seem like it made sense for me.

• 35:05Mark Gagnon?

  People were so surprised that like so many women voted for Trump because. They tried to make it like, oh, a Trump for, uh, vote for Trump is like

• 35:12Speaker 04

  A vote against, yeah.

• 35:13Mark Gagnon?

  Wouldn't reproduce the rights. But if Trump did a great job of saying, he appeased both groups. He said, hey, I'm the guy responsible for getting Roe v. Wade overturned. So that appeased all the people who are against abortion. But then he also said, I am not going to make any federal ban on abortion. So now at least it gives hope to the people who care about abortion is like, okay, we can leave it up to the

• 35:36Speaker 04

  He also said on our pod that, uh,

• 35:38Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, he, he handled that really well.

• 35:40Speaker 04

  I'll say on our pod, if some states overreach like Arizona, I assume Texas as well. He would tell them like, I'm not going to support this. Yeah, you guys need to roll it back a little bit, which if you're like, a lot of the abortion bans are not that crazy. Texas is insane. A couple of others, Alabama, probably Arizona, probably. And if you are listening and you're like, oh, Trump will get those to kind of like be more lenient than maybe that's not the worst thing in the world.

• 36:03Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 36:03Speaker 04

  So, yeah, he just, he handled it masterfully. And I, like you said, I don't think Kamala did a good job. She never got to connect. That was a big, I don't even know if it's wrestling or not, but like, we never got to know her as a person. And I think that's what you talked about last week, which is just a massive

• 36:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, she sucked. And now the, what the, I've seen some people on the Democrat side do is like, they're trying to blame Biden for this. Like there's this

• 36:25Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, big blame Biden move.

• 36:26Speaker 03

  And, and here's the thing.

• 36:28Mark Gagnon?

  A lot of blame.

• 36:28Speaker 03

  Well, he didn't help. Well, no, no, no, I, I, I agree with you. He didn't help. And like, there are some reports that are saying like, if he had ran, there would have been an even greater landslide victory for Trump, which I do believe. Because I think that people viewed him as a danger to the United States of America, him in charge. So I, I do understand that and I do believe that he didn't help. But what I would say is that the biggest issue for the Democrats, and I think you could solve so much, is if they allow the democratic process to actually work, you will see the party flourish.

• 37:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:02Speaker 03

  So a perfect example is this. This almost unknown one-term senator out of Chicago.

• 37:12Speaker 03

  Gives a speech at the DNC and fucking rocks the house. This guy is originally from Hawaii. He got, his middle name is one of the synonymous with one of the most terrifying figures in American history. Like, everything about him on paper shouldn't work, but he was so magnetic.

• 37:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:32Speaker 03

  That you could not deny him.

• 37:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:36Speaker 03

  Right? The people decided. After Barack, it hasn't been the people deciding. And Hillary was supposed to run. Hillary was supposed to run. They want Hillary to run, but they see what's happening right this. And then the party made the smart decision, which was like, hey, the people have decided they want this. The Democratic Party has these things called superdelegates. We've spoken about this a lot. So in the primary process, there can be like an ex-governor or something like that. And his one vote is worth 10,000 votes. So in the event that somebody's losing a primary, you can, or the caucuses, is that essentially what it's called?

• 38:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:08Speaker 03

  You can, that one governor's vote can offset.

• 38:11Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm. What the people want.

• 38:12Speaker 03

  Exactly. And they use that to control the candidate. And the problem with that is, if you're controlling the candidate, you're stripping the people of what they want. And by stripping the people what they want, you actually hurt yourself.

• 38:26Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 38:26Speaker 03

  Because you don't get a candidate that's going to reflect the desires of the people. You put 10 people on that stage, two or three of them are going to start hitting on issues that matter to the people. They're going to start going viral. There's going to be a lot of interest, a lot of donations. And then, one of them is going to win, and he might be a guy who hosted The Apprentice. That's what happens on the Republican side.

• 38:46Speaker 04

  The Democratic primary is shockingly not Democratic at all.

• 38:49Speaker 03

  It's not Democratic. And it goes back to their pretentiousness. It's this, hey, we know what you guys need. We know what's right. You guys are fucking dumb. Let's us handle this and we'll figure it all out.

• 39:02Speaker 04

  Or we know what we want, and you guys are so dumb, you'll believe us. While we, as Nancy Pelosi, I'm going to make hundreds of millions on the stock market or whatever, and you retards are just going to believe me because I'm going to throw you a little bone about your identity politics or whatever. You know what I just thought of as you were talking? The last time that Democrats had a primary that we felt was true. Truly like Democratic and lost the presidential election was probably 1988. Clinton won in 92, repeated in 96, 2000 Al Gore ran as VP, maybe he won the primary. But it was 2000, one time in 30 years.

• 39:35Speaker 03

  You usually let the VP, but maybe he didn't win the primary.

• 39:38Speaker 04

  Either way, if so, that's 24 years. That's the only time. Hillary in 2016, they lost because we felt the primary was rigged and it seems like it was. 2024, there was no primary. None of us won a Kamala, it seems. And you guys can tell me she would have won a primary. That means your party is an even bigger joke. And if she won the primary and I got your asses beaten this bad in the general, then.

• 39:58Speaker 03

  Let the people tell you.

• 40:00Mark Gagnon?

  Also to your point, yeah, I would agree that Republicans don't do that as much because after January 6, Trump was like toxic. People, like the party was trying to move away from him.

• 40:11Speaker 03

  Move away from him, yeah.

• 40:11Mark Gagnon?

  Fox News, like everybody, they were speaking out bad about him. But the people were like, no, we still fuck with this guy. And they had to pivot and be like, all right, this is our guy.

• 40:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, because they don't have the super delegate system. So they can't offset it. They can use media to offset it. They can use political pressure. But they can't stop the people from having a say with their vote. And what you end up getting are the people that are communicating the desires of, sorry, the candidates that are communicating the desires of the people.

• 40:42Speaker 03

  So it's almost like Democrats, you don't need to fix that much. Just let the system work. Stop rigging the system and you will get candidates that are speaking to what the people actually desire. What the people actually desire might not be what you believe your party is. But it's not up to you to decide what your party is. The people decide.

• 41:05Mark Gagnon?

  But them donors though. Listen to them donors.

• 41:09Speaker 04

  Well, that was the other issue is that like Bernie was a move away from the billionaire class and the political donors that are controlling the Democratic Party. And they couldn't let that power go to some guy that wasn't bought. So they had to make him radioactive.

• 41:28Mark Gagnon?

  And I don't see that ever changing.

• 41:30Speaker 03

  Well, that's another thing. It's like.

• 41:33Mark Gagnon?

  I can see it changing eventually.

• 41:35Speaker 03

  What are you thinking? What are you thinking?

• 41:36Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 41:36Speaker 03

  You had a point about this yesterday.

• 41:37Mark Gagnon?

  Well, I think like ultimately, the wealth gap just gets so big that there's a quasi-revolution, whether it's political or physical.

• 41:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:44Mark Gagnon?

  And then it will reset.

• 41:46Speaker 03

  And what it give example of like what that looks like. I understand what you're saying.

• 41:49Mark Gagnon?

  Like similar to, I think, like the European model where like it is more socialist, like in the sense that you've universal healthcare and that there's going to be more sort of government-funded opportunities, you know, resources and access to like education and healthcare and shit all through Europe in the way in in America, the way it is there.

• 42:08Speaker 03

  How?

• 42:09Mark Gagnon?

  But we're gonna get taxed more.

• 42:10Speaker 03

  How big do you think the wealth gap has to get before that happens? Because it's pretty large. It's not. It's actually, if I can, it's not the distance between the the richest people and the poorest people. It's the distance between the poorest people and death. And the more poor people are closer to death, the more we're on the brink of revolution.

• 42:34Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 42:34Speaker 03

  Right? It's this is the French Revolution, right?

• 42:36Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 42:37Speaker 03

  And the more these people are detached from what's going on, which is the Marie Antoinette quote, they don't have bread. We'll give them cake.

• 42:44Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 42:44Speaker 03

  Like, you're so, well, yeah, I guess, don't have bread means we don't have any food. Not like, oh, the cakes are there. Well, then just let them eat that. So, yeah, I think, once you have enough people that are essentially below the poverty line, they're on the starvation line, the only option they have is rebellion. And then the people at the top start to go, okay, we can either fight our own people and murder our own people to keep them broke, or we can restructure our system where we're still pretty wealthy, but we're not at the risk of rebellion and murder and them stealing our children and destroying our livelihood. Because rich people want to live comfortably. Rich people don't want to live like a billionaire in Mexico, where you're like, you're worried about your

• 43:29Speaker 03

  kid getting kidnapped every single day. Rich people want to live like, you know, they got their place in Nantucket, and they go there, and it's safe, and then they fly to Los Angeles to what they still, once poor people get to a point where they're gonna kidnap your kids, society gets not comfortable for the rich. So they start going, all right, let's give back a little bit.

• 43:47Speaker 04

  Is there a less insane way that this happens? It's hairless, terrifying.

• 43:52Speaker 03

  There must be, because what happened, what happened when the 1%, all those rallies and

• 43:57Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, Occupy Wall Street.

• 43:59Speaker 03

  How'd they calm that?

• 44:00Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but I mean, voter pressure, you just do a political.

• 44:02Speaker 04

  And that's also where Dave Smith said a lot of identity politics stuff started is like, let's distract them from the wealth inequality, all the money we're taking. I don't know if you remember, but let's, let's make all this other identity politics shit pop off.

• 44:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:14Speaker 04

  So, we tried, and then they were like, chill.

• 44:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, the real problem is DEI.

• 44:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:21Speaker 03

  The real problem, there's not enough diversity, equity, and inclusion.

• 44:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:24Speaker 03

  So just make a new enemy. You just create, you create something to satisfy people's reason for why they're not given the opportunity that these other people are. When the reality is, it's Migrants taking all the resources. Yeah. Anything but, rich people are keeping all the money and opportunity for the rich people. Got it. Like, you really want to fix that DEI or whatever in colleges? If you went to a university, your kids can't go there.

• 44:56Speaker 03

  You, you, you will, you will see Harvard, Yale, Princeton, immediately switched.

• 45:04Speaker 04

  It'll get a little darker.

• 45:05Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. They'll immediately be more diverse. You, because the amount of like legacy kids that end up going to these schools. And keep in mind, with more graduates, there's even more, right?

• 45:17Speaker 04

  If you donate to a school, your kid can't go there. You're donating out of the goodness of your heart.

• 45:20Speaker 03

  Exactly, and them donations go evaporate.

• 45:24Speaker 04

  This is something that doesn't benefit the school or the rich people, but they're not gonna do that.

• 45:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:29Speaker 04

  Oh no, let's just pander and have 10 black kids every year, and then make them feel like charity while they're here. So, that's the solution. They're not gonna look. Now, again, I would like to think if they just got rid of super delinquents.

• 45:41Speaker 03

  And now they took that away. Now we have no black kids. I don't believe in the, I don't believe that the DEI thing in certain industries is, is helpful, though. I, I think that there's probably a better way to address that, but I don't know if addressing at the top of the line is what's gonna make the change. I mean, but it's something. It's better than nothing. Yeah. I think there are better ways.

• 46:05Mark Gagnon?

  To fix it, but by just doing away with it altogether, you already you just named ways that other groups of people have leg ups. They're a step ahead.

• 46:14Speaker 04

  I know.

• 46:15Mark Gagnon?

  You need something.

• 46:16Speaker 04

  Medical school, when I was, now granted, we're so old, now this is 20 years ago almost, but when I was like in pre-med or whatever, and I knew people that are applying. It was so, this, the requirements for black slash Latino people to get into medical school was so much lower. And I'm not even mad at the people, but I do, a part of my brain is like, I guess I understand they're going to be able to connect with their patients better, et cetera. At the same time, if you're not giving them as good a quality of care, because you don't know as much, is that a terrifying thing? And I'm not one way or the other, but that does make a lot, logically, I'm like, that seems a little crazy.

• 46:52Mark Gagnon?

  Like, I get the logic, but it's also, I don't think.

• 46:57Mark Gagnon?

  All people from black and brown communities are trying to get into Ivy League schools, like, we are not applying at the rate that other people are. So it's like, you're not always getting our best candidates.

• 47:07Speaker 04

  No, no, no.

• 47:08Mark Gagnon?

  And so, sometimes to try to incentivize more people to, from black and brown communities to go there.

• 47:14Speaker 04

  Here's what I'm saying.

• 47:15Mark Gagnon?

  You drop, maybe the scores, I don't, I wouldn't say they're drastically lower.

• 47:18Speaker 04

  My school is a small school, it's like a private dork school, 300 kids, 150 are pre-med, every race. You see the kids who make it through, I know a person who did worse on their MCATs than me. Granted, I guess they played a sport, but like, worse on their MCATs than me, GPA was fine, got into the best medical school in Texas. I didn't, the Caribbean was like, maybe we'll take you. You know what I mean?

• 47:41Mark Gagnon?

  I get that, but you're also. You could have gone to Haiti, bro.

• 47:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, I could have been, Haiti wanted me really bad.

• 47:46Mark Gagnon?

  You're also talking about getting into the school, and sometimes you had the resources to have MCATs, prep classes, and tutors and all that shit, a lot of times those people don't. But lasting in the school is what counts. So it's like, can? That black or brown student make it through med school? Can they pass all their requirements?

• 48:03Speaker 04

  Lasting is easier.

• 48:03Mark Gagnon?

  They're just.

• 48:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, lasting is easier.

• 48:05Speaker 03

  Lasting is easier.

• 48:05Mark Gagnon?

  But I mean, if you can get through the program, that means you're just as capable as.

• 48:09Speaker 04

  If you're at my school, a private school, you're not some poor kid. We had people, I guess, sure, but these, I know these people. They're not poor people. They're not struggling to eat. This wasn't like a thing. I'm not saying they were rich, but again, I'm telling you, having experienced it. I understand your theory and in theory it is good. But then you also start thinking this is medical care. And to your point, to be fair to you, how you do in undergraduate doesn't mean you're going to do well in med school or not. It's just how well you do in fucking physics or whatever.

• 48:38Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but that's, that's my point.

• 48:39Speaker 04

  That's to your point, but still, that idea is a little bit crazy.

• 48:45Speaker 04

  This is medicine. This is people's lives on the line.

• 48:48Mark Gagnon?

  I hear you, but I'm saying like.

• 48:49Speaker 03

  Listen, I think.

• 48:50Mark Gagnon?

  If they're not capable of graduating, then they're not capable of.

• 48:53Speaker 03

  I, I, I think that, I understand Al's point too, which is like, okay, like, let's say their SAT scores are lower. But if they're able to graduate at the same level, then they were able to acquire enough information, education through that process to do the job. Which I, I agree with you and that totally makes sense. And I think that's the idea behind, in a lot of ways, DEI is that some of these people might not have the high SAT scores because they can't afford all these things that give you a huge advantage, which is taking like the Kaplan SAT prep class, et cetera. I think everybody's on the same page with that. And I think that poor white people also look at that and they go, yeah, that's unfair that those rich fucking white people get to take all those classes. And I think they feel a little disenfranchised that just because they share the same skin color,

• 49:35Speaker 03

  they are not afforded those opportunities that the black people are. And that there are wealthy, like nepo baby black people that are taking advantage of these DEI things that are really not made for them. They're made for more disenfranchised people. And I think that's why like. The program that uplifts people from poverty into positions of prosperity just has to assess these struggles. So the poor disenfranchised white, the poor disenfranchised black, the poor disenfranchised Latino or Asian, whatever it is, they all have to feel like they're being taken care of and protected

• 50:20Speaker 03

  in this system that's really not built for them. And I think, right now, the sentiment, the feeling, the perception, we've talked so much about perception, is, is just for people of color. And it might not actually be going to the people of color that, that really need the help, but in fact, the people of color that don't need the help.

• 50:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 50:43Speaker 03

  You know what I mean? Like Steph Curry's kids don't need a DI program to get into somewhere, but they would benefit from it simply because of the color of their, their skin.

• 50:53Mark Gagnon?

  Yes, and I would agree with you. And I'm like, with any program, people are gonna find, take advantage.

• 50:59Speaker 03

  Agreed. So, so, so it's one of those things where it's like, I don't think we wipe it off and go, we don't do anything. I think we go, well, what else can we do?

• 51:07Speaker 04

  Socioeconomic.

• 51:08Mark Gagnon?

  If you make a class issue, that's not racist.

• 51:11Speaker 04

  If part of diversity was socio-economic, if it was socio-economic over racial, if it's a tiebreaker, sure, poor white kid, poor black kid, give it to the poor black kid, I guess. But like, a poor white kid not getting taken advantage does seem like...

• 51:22Speaker 03

  And then, it's more fun. It's more fun when you're just helping all poor people, because then you really get to decide and like, find out who's the smartest race.

• 51:31Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.

• 51:32Speaker 03

  Do you know what I mean? Because like, if black people thrive...

• 51:35Speaker 04

  Are you sure you wanna do this?

• 51:36Speaker 03

  No, this is good, because if black people thrive...

• 51:38Mark Gagnon?

  Let them cook, right?

• 51:38Speaker 03

  Right? Like, if it's just for poor people and black people thrive, they get to go, see, we're smarter than you motherfuckers, you just got more money.

• 51:44Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 51:45Speaker 03

  So now you get to put your money where your mouth is.

• 51:47Mark Gagnon?

  But some poor Asians.

• 51:49Speaker 03

  Poor Asians end up winning, then we all gotta get them out of the country. We have to.

• 51:53Speaker 04

  I was gonna say, you're all fighting for second. To be honest about this. Let's be honest about this.

• 51:58Mark Gagnon?

  Not you, the other Asian. You do, you never see a poor Asian, though. I was gonna say, you saw a homeless Asian.

• 52:03Speaker 03

  Are you kidding? They're collecting cans outside right now.

• 52:06Mark Gagnon?

  Guy in Manhattan, you don't think they have a fucking penthouse? They're working all day collecting metal and gold and jewels.

• 52:12Speaker 03

  Yo, I'll be honest with you, I haven't seen an Asian woman collecting cans in a minute.

• 52:16Mark Gagnon?

  In a while, yeah.

• 52:16Speaker 03

  Is it inflation?

• 52:18Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, they're in Williamsburg. I got it.

• 52:20Speaker 03

  The Latinos took over.

• 52:21Mark Gagnon?

  They took over.

• 52:22Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 52:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, I've seen that.

• 52:23Speaker 03

  Families.

• 52:23Speaker 04

  I've seen families going out, dude.

• 52:25Mark Gagnon?

  A win is a win. Do you ever tease someone up for that? I've been doing that by recycling lately.

• 52:30Speaker 03

  What, when you see them with the bag?

• 52:32Mark Gagnon?

  I, because we'll have cans and bottles and shit and I won't put it in the recycling in the building. I'll take it and I'll leave it on the street.

• 52:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:37Mark Gagnon?

  Because I know some Chinese lady's gonna see it and go, let's fucking go.

• 52:40Speaker 03

  Bro.

• 52:40Mark Gagnon?

  They go crazy. They tear through my fucking bags. No, I put it in a bag right on the side and then I just wait by the window.

• 52:45Speaker 03

  Just wait for some lady to go fucking buck wild.

• 52:48Mark Gagnon?

  You're literate. No. So you're not putting it in the receptacle, you're just leaving it on the side? I'm not gonna make her dig through the trash. This is what transplats do to Brooklyn, bro. No, you leave it right there. I assemble it.

• 52:59Speaker 03

  You're from Queens!

• 53:00Mark Gagnon?

  He thinks it's helping.

• 53:01Speaker 03

  Barely!

• 53:01Mark Gagnon?

  He thinks he's helping.

• 53:02Speaker 03

  You're from Long Island!

• 53:04Mark Gagnon?

  You're from Texas!

• 53:06Speaker 03

  I know!

• 53:07Mark Gagnon?

  He can talk.

• 53:08Speaker 03

  I'm not mad at Brooklyn.

• 53:09Speaker 04

  Hey, do, hey, do what you gotta do, buddy.

• 53:11Mark Gagnon?

  Come on, right? Like, if you have food left over? I still don't know what you're describing. He's just describing literate. He's like, oh, I'm gonna make it easier so they don't have to dig into a bag. I'm just gonna leave the can on top of something.

• 53:21Speaker 03

  Public service.

• 53:21Mark Gagnon?

  Easier for them to take. No, we got a trash chute, so it stays in the building. So no, so no Chinese ladies can get it. But they go through the bags once they put the bags on the street. No.

• 53:30Speaker 03

  They never put it on the street, they stay in the chute.

• 53:32Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Really? That's what he's saying, yeah. And then it's in a dumpster and it fucking goes off. So I'm saying you just leave it right on the side, build it up.

• 53:38Speaker 04

  It's like Salvation Army.

• 53:39Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 53:40Speaker 04

  Salvation Red Army.

• 53:43Mark Gagnon?

  They love it, bro. They get so excited. If you saw the look on their faces, bro. Chasing their tails, going in circles.

• 53:48Speaker 03

  So the Chinese are off of the fucking?

• 53:50Mark Gagnon?

  They get so excited.

• 53:52Speaker 03

  They're off of the can game, huh?

• 53:55Mark Gagnon?

  Not my neighborhood. It's crazy.

• 53:57Speaker 03

  Is it still five cents for a can? I, I don't know that.

• 54:01Mark Gagnon?

  Actual return, but there's a return spot.

• 54:02Mark Gagnon?

  You're so out of touch. Dude, you're so out of touch.

• 54:05Speaker 03

  We got him, we got him.

• 54:06Mark Gagnon?

  Ever since you got a fucking return. You don't even know what his cans cost.

• 54:09Speaker 03

  I gotta say, we gotta up it.

• 54:10Mark Gagnon?

  It went up, it's ten cents now.

• 54:12Speaker 03

  It should be ten cents.

• 54:13Speaker 04

  I thought it was ten.

• 54:15Speaker 03

  How much is it? How much is it?

• 54:17Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know shit. It says it right there, dawg. It's on this?

• 54:19Speaker 03

  No. Five cents still? Thank you, dumb motherfuckers don't know anything about recycling.

• 54:24Mark Gagnon?

  It's fucking inflation, bro.

• 54:26Speaker 03

  You need to raise the price of that shit. Y'all never collected cans in your life, huh?

• 54:29Mark Gagnon?

  I have. You've never collected a can?

• 54:31Speaker 04

  I have, yeah. Yeah, I did in Texas, we had like three dollars.

• 54:34Speaker 03

  When did you collect a can? I collected cans religiously.

• 54:37Mark Gagnon?

  Like twice a year?

• 54:38Speaker 03

  Every summer at my beach house when I was two.

• 54:42Speaker 03

  It's like, this is dead serious. But I had to set it up like that. Every summer at my beaches, I would go around, I would collect all the cans. And this was a thing that the kids did, we didn't have activities. And we would collect all the cans, we'd give them back to the supermarket, we get five cents a can. And I was loaded, I'd be buying ice creams with that shit. I'm digging inside garbage.

• 55:01Mark Gagnon?

  That's right.

• 55:02Mark Gagnon?

  I remember being at that age when you're young and you don't know that you're poor yet. And like, I would go with my dad.

• 55:07Speaker 03

  To collect other people's cans?

• 55:08Mark Gagnon?

  We would just take our recycling, but then go to the fucking supermarkets.

• 55:11Speaker 03

  Oh, and then?

• 55:12Mark Gagnon?

  And get the shit.

• 55:12Speaker 03

  That's not poor.

• 55:14Mark Gagnon?

  Nobody did that shit.

• 55:16Speaker 04

  We didn't have five cent deposits in Texas. And I didn't realize that, so I saw that five cent shit and I stored all these cans and took it to Texas. And they were like, alright, man, here's like a quarter.

• 55:26Mark Gagnon?

  But they do need to up that, because in 1999, five cents was way different than now.

• 55:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:31Mark Gagnon?

  Like buy a lot.

• 55:32Speaker 03

  What's five cents now?

• 55:33Mark Gagnon?

  Let me find out. Huh?

• 55:35Mark Gagnon?

  I mean pennies are, are a negative produ- production, right?

• 55:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:40Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 55:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:41Mark Gagnon?

  It's nine, nine cents. Wait, what?

• 55:44Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 55:45Mark Gagnon?

  It's the opposite. Oh, it's like less, wait, what? How does this even make sense?

• 55:49Speaker 03

  Of course it's less, Mark.

• 55:51Mark Gagnon?

  No, but it says it's more. The same item would cost nine cents today.

• 55:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:56Speaker 03

  Yo, somebody, take the computer and I want you to smash it over the top of his head.

• 56:00Mark Gagnon?

  I was trying to find out what five cents is today.

• 56:02Speaker 03

  Five cents is two cents today?

• 56:03Mark Gagnon?

  Fucking out, bro.

• 56:04Speaker 03

  What a fucking weird.

• 56:05Mark Gagnon?

  What is five cents today? How much is five cents today?

• 56:07Mark Gagnon?

  He would've got a legacy fucking admission.

• 56:09Mark Gagnon?

  How much is five cents?

• 56:10Speaker 03

  Five cents? Five cents is five cents today. Ask him what his degree is. Yeah, what is your degree in?

• 56:16Mark Gagnon?

  Economics. Jesus Christ. We're not street economics, not putting cans, bro.

• 56:21Speaker 03

  America's cooked.

• 56:21Mark Gagnon?

  Not getting cans.

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• 57:51Speaker 03

  Let's talk about what else we got going on. Some of these appointees. Oh, yeah. We're in debt. The Democrats are in debt. We talked about that. Raise a billion, 20 million in debt. I mean, spending, raising a billion dollars, spending in a hundred days. 538 million on staff. You can't die with it, baby.

• 58:15Speaker 03

  They raised that money and everybody was just eating, huh? That's what it was. It was just like, you call your friends.

• 58:27Mark Gagnon?

  Like, did she know I'm not gonna make this? So, let me just start spending it.

• 58:31Speaker 04

  Between Black Lives Matter and Kamala, we really need to have a conversation about black people's money.

• 58:35Mark Gagnon?

  Stop it, stop it, stop it. Don't, don't group those two.

• 58:39Speaker 03

  I mean, I think you're bringing up a very good point.

• 58:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean.

• 58:41Speaker 03

  Between Black Lives Matter, NBA NFL players.

• 58:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's true.

• 58:47Speaker 03

  Kamala.

• 58:47Speaker 04

  That's true.

• 58:48Mark Gagnon?

  Podcast digital owners.

• 58:50Speaker 04

  Tesla truck owners?

• 58:51Speaker 03

  Yeah. How about a fleet of Tesla trucks after one year in the red?

• 59:00Speaker 03

  Oh, man.

• 59:01Mark Gagnon?

  But who did that point? Apparently him butting into all the Project 2025 guys.

• 59:04Speaker 03

  Oh, I heard a good, I heard a good one. Apparently if Trump hasn't.

• 59:07Mark Gagnon?

  Bring that back up.

• 59:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, we gotta talk about that. Cause you need to explain what Project 2025 is. Uh, but apparently the, if Trump hasn't posted that somebody is taking on a position, it's not real and it's marketing. So what's happening behind the scenes allegedly is there are all these people that are up for the position, but they haven't been officially offered it. And what they're doing is leaking things to the press so that the press report it, so that there is political and social pressure on the administration to appoint them.

• 59:41Speaker 04

  Trump is the wrong guy to do that to, I think.

• 59:43Speaker 03

  Or it's leaked by other people so that the press trashes the decision.

• 59:49Speaker 04

  Ah, that's smart.

• 59:51Speaker 03

  So that the competitor can go, you don't want him. I mean, look at how upset people are about this appointee. Or.

• 59:57Speaker 04

  This is.

• 59:58Speaker 03

  Or.

• 59:59Speaker 04

  This might be the one I'm thinking.

• 1:00:00Speaker 03

  The administration leaks, people sees how the.

• 1:00:04Speaker 04

  The perception is.

• 1:00:05Speaker 03

  Perception is.

• 1:00:06Speaker 04

  And then reacts accordingly. So Marco Rubio was leaked Secretary of State decision for Donald Trump, gets fucking trashed. Dave Smith is like, this is the worst pick. You might as well elect a Cheney, blah, blah, blah. Dave, I obviously trust, but then if you're a Trump administration guy, do you go, hey, let's just, we're thinking about Marco Rubio. Let's just leak that, see how people respond. And when they trash him, be like, all right, well, maybe we don't want Marco Rubio.

• 1:00:27Mark Gagnon?

  I think, I think that wasn't real like a neo.

• 1:00:29Speaker 03

  That's the thing, and that's the biggest issue for anybody who voted for him specifically because you don't want foreign wars is you don't want any of these neo cons, these warhawks, Democrat or Republican in the administration. So a lot of people saw that and they were heartbroken. We're like, oh, I thought we're draining the swamp. I thought we're not getting into these point of those foreign wars. And then you're gonna put a guy who's admittedly, you know, about that action. Very concerning. And I think a lot of people very upset. Now, he hasn't been mentioned by Trump yet, but I think that one might be real. The Department of Homeland Security is very, and you should be upset about it. If you voted for that specific reason, or those are one of the reasons why you voted for him, you should be very upset

• 1:01:13Speaker 03

  about that. Kristi Noem was this like, she was very attractive, I think was a governor of like North Dakota, but they picked her as like Department of Homeland Security, potentially. This is like another one floated, that might not be real, but like beautiful woman, but the fuck does someone from North Dakota know about homeland security? Like, we're not gonna attack by a moose here. We need, we need like an actual person that knows how to thwart terror attacks. Like, I don't think there's a lot of action happening in North Dakota, right? Right? Am I wrong for?

• 1:01:44Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know any of her history, so just because she's from there, she could have like a bunch of. What if she went to an Ivy League school? What if she got?

• 1:01:52Speaker 03

  No, you gotta be on the water. You gotta be, you gotta be on a water state. If you're not on a water state, there's nothing we can do about it.

• 1:01:58Speaker 04

  Marco Rubio can do that. Marco Rubio can do that.

• 1:02:00Speaker 03

  You could have a Cuban with a comb over, deciding homeland security. He gonna build a bridge from here to Havana.

• 1:02:07Mark Gagnon?

  The Cubans are good at security, though. A low key Bay of Pigs.

• 1:02:11Speaker 03

  That's a good ass point. Shout out to Rubio.

• 1:02:14Speaker 04

  Nobody hates illegals more than someone who came here illegally and is here now.

• 1:02:18Speaker 03

  Do you know what? That is a great point. Cubans would lock that motherfucker down so fast. Maybe we do need Marco Rubio.

• 1:02:26Mark Gagnon?

  Our biggest threat for 10 years was a fucking little island in the middle of the fucking Atlantic.

• 1:02:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, we might need a Cuban. We might need a real ass Cuban to do that shit.

• 1:02:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm here, y'all ain't. Stay out. Shout out.

• 1:02:37Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I just said no wars, and now you just convince yourself on this guy.

• 1:02:43Speaker 03

  Not for, not for, uh, what's it called? For Department of Homeland Security.

• 1:02:47Mark Gagnon?

  Oh.

• 1:02:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, we don't want him to be the, what was he going up for again?

• 1:02:50Speaker 00

  Secretary of State.

• 1:02:51Speaker 03

  Secretary of State, yeah. I don't want him to sign foreign shit.

• 1:02:54Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, he gonna fucking get into it with the Mexicans and then we own, have some cartel shit going on.

• 1:02:59Speaker 03

  Bro, the way that Tom Homan was talking about them cartels. That, this is fire. I like this.

• 1:03:07Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I find, I find it.

• 1:03:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, but you can't talk like that. What the fuck is up about it?

• 1:03:12Mark Gagnon?

  What do you say?

• 1:03:12Speaker 03

  Just the fact.

• 1:03:14Mark Gagnon?

  That's what you're worried about.

• 1:03:14Speaker 03

  You afraid of the cartels when we got this guy?

• 1:03:17Mark Gagnon?

  Come on, bro.

• 1:03:18Speaker 03

  This guy got 14 zins in his lower lip. You think he's worried about the cartels?

• 1:03:22Speaker 00

  He's gonna, it says it would cost 88 billion dollars to deport a million people a year.

• 1:03:30Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know if that's accurate or not.

• 1:03:33Speaker 00

  Is that what American taxpayers should expect?

• 1:03:35Mark Gagnon?

  What price do you put on national security? Is that worth it?

• 1:03:38Speaker 00

  Is there a way to carry out mass deportation without separating families?

• 1:03:43Mark Gagnon?

  Of course there's.

• 1:03:44Mark Gagnon?

  Good answers, bro.

• 1:03:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, but did you see the rest of that answer?

• 1:03:47Mark Gagnon?

  I think this.

• 1:03:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, you really.

• 1:03:49Mark Gagnon?

  Uh, no, that's where it cuts off.

• 1:03:50Speaker 03

  Oh, the rest of the answer is, of course there is. You can, if he goes, you can deport the families with them. Which I disagree with, I don't like that. I don't like this, I think the first deportation process needs to be criminals. You go after criminals, you commit a crime, you get the fuck out of here. Simple as that. After that, we can assess.

• 1:04:09Mark Gagnon?

  I think this is it. You wanna see it?

• 1:04:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, go for it.

• 1:04:11Mark Gagnon?

  Look, the illegal women that's coming across the border, people need to understand. 31% of women that make that journey get raped by criminal cartels. Children get raped. I've talked to little girls as young as nine that have been raped multiple times. These cartels are animals and that's why President Trump's gonna take them off the face of earth. They have killed more Americans than every terror or terrorist organization in the world. And we're going, and President Trump is committed to calling them terrorist organization and use them full might of the United States Special Operations to take them out.

• 1:04:42Speaker 03

  War with the cartels. We don't need that. I'm not worried about that, but what's more concerning to me, honesty is, is like,

• 1:04:51Speaker 03

  cocaine is fun.

• 1:04:54Speaker 03

  And someone's gotta make it.

• 1:04:56Speaker 04

  We'll make it here, don't worry.

• 1:04:58Speaker 03

  But will we? If, I don't think we will, and I think the American people need coke. I'm gonna be honest with you, fentanyl, no. Heroin, no. Opiates, no.

• 1:05:09Speaker 04

  This is the wildest.

• 1:05:10Speaker 03

  But coke.

• 1:05:11Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, I'm listening.

• 1:05:12Speaker 03

  Coke.

• 1:05:12Speaker 04

  The cartels are ruining Mexico and you're like, yeah, but where are we gonna get our party?

• 1:05:17Speaker 03

  It's, we do, we do need that. We're a party people. And I don't think we have the conditions for, to grow. We don't have the conditions.

• 1:05:25Speaker 03

  You know how cigars can only really grow in Cuba?

• 1:05:28Mark Gagnon?

  You believe that? I don't believe that shit.

• 1:05:30Speaker 03

  Not at all. We love what we can't have.

• 1:05:34Speaker 03

  But the, the reality is the conditions for coke probably aren't here. We're not gonna grow it here, but Americans, we need our coke. Look, what do you think about Mike Tyson? Imagine Mike Tyson, no cocaine. Imagine the 80s with no cocaine.

• 1:05:45Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, put that on, Mike. I thought you meant, I thought you were talking about Curry, Mike.

• 1:05:48Speaker 03

  No, I'm saying, think about how cocaine. No, but think about the most amazing things that cocaine has created in American history. Miami, the, the fun, the fucking car.

• 1:05:58Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wolf of Wall Street? That was fun.

• 1:06:01Speaker 03

  Wall Street, cocaine. You know what I mean? Take little shitty mortgages, mix them all together.

• 1:06:09Speaker 03

  Now you got even cheaper mortgages. And run. Think of how amazing, oh, black people should vote.

• 1:06:16Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:17Speaker 03

  Cocaine.

• 1:06:18Mark Gagnon?

  Cocaine.

• 1:06:18Speaker 03

  Cocaine has, has created every amazing idea in American history. The female vote, cocaine.

• 1:06:25Speaker 04

  Oh, you said amazing ideas. You said amazing ideas.

• 1:06:28Speaker 03

  Amazing ideas. Every amazing idea in American history was backed by cocaine.

• 1:06:33Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:06:34Speaker 03

  Babe Ruth, points. Boom.

• 1:06:36Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:06:37Speaker 03

  Cocaine.

• 1:06:37Mark Gagnon?

  The BBL was invented on cocaine.

• 1:06:39Speaker 03

  Cocaine.

• 1:06:39Mark Gagnon?

  Colombians.

• 1:06:40Speaker 03

  What if skinny girls have fat asses?

• 1:06:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:06:42Speaker 03

  Cocaine.

• 1:06:45Speaker 03

  You could pack more coke in there. There we go. I'm telling you, America runs on confidence and cocaine is confidence and Americans need cocaine. I'm worried, to be completely honest with you, that without cocaine, the American empire is over.

• 1:07:02Speaker 03

  I mean that a thousand percent. I'm looking you straight in your face right now.

• 1:07:05Speaker 04

  Is this like when you said that we didn't drink water, we just drank coffee and alcohol for 400 years or whatever.

• 1:07:11Speaker 03

  I did believe that. And I do believe that's why we were so productive.

• 1:07:14Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:07:15Speaker 03

  Because we had caffeine and we had alcohol in the system.

• 1:07:18Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:07:18Speaker 03

  And we thought of some crazy shit.

• 1:07:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:20Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:21Speaker 03

  Right? You look at the cathedral, you're like, what if the windows were like painted colors too? That is a caffeine and alcohol combination.

• 1:07:29Mark Gagnon?

  Who invented fucking cocaine? The Mayans, the Aztecs? And what did they do? The cities, the first pyramids.

• 1:07:34Speaker 03

  What?

• 1:07:35Mark Gagnon?

  I was gonna talk about pyramids, but also that.

• 1:07:37Speaker 03

  But also that. Sometimes you sacrifice a kid so a cactus grows. Right? That's also a cocaine idea right there.

• 1:07:43Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, they're good with the bad.

• 1:07:45Speaker 03

  They're good with the bad. But America runs on cocaine, so we need somebody to make it. So I think we just gotta...

• 1:07:51Speaker 04

  That's Duncan's new slope.

• 1:07:52Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:07:52Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:53Speaker 03

  America runs on cocaine. And there's a baby version of cocaine, which is sugar, which the rest of America runs on. But once you become an adult, there is cocaine.

• 1:08:00Mark Gagnon?

  There's an actual baby version of cocaine.

• 1:08:02Speaker 03

  Talk to me.

• 1:08:02Mark Gagnon?

  I tried to purchase on the dark web.

• 1:08:04Speaker 03

  No, you didn't. Tell me what it is.

• 1:08:06Mark Gagnon?

  So you can make tea out of cocoa leaves?

• 1:08:08Speaker 03

  Oh, no, Mark.

• 1:08:09Mark Gagnon?

  And you can make the tea and it gives you a stimulant as I like cocaine, but it's natural. This is how they do it in Central America.

• 1:08:15Speaker 03

  Give me a zen right now. You just got me. You tried to buy cocoa leaves on the dark web?

• 1:08:19Mark Gagnon?

  Allegedly, for the bit, for the bit. I was looking at it. It's natural. No, it's natural. It's natural.

• 1:08:24Speaker 03

  This is Donald Trump's America.

• 1:08:25Mark Gagnon?

  That's how they did it for years. That's how they did it for years.

• 1:08:28Speaker 03

  This is what you voted for.

• 1:08:28Mark Gagnon?

  Well, how else do you do it? Snort it up with baby powder and whatever the fuck?

• 1:08:32Speaker 03

  I'm not gonna put fucking baby powder in my cocaine, Mark.

• 1:08:36Mark Gagnon?

  That's why I did child sacrifice. They can get the baby powder to cut it with, bro.

• 1:08:39Speaker 03

  Listen, guys.

• 1:08:40Mark Gagnon?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:08:41Speaker 03

  My fear is that if we wipe the cartels off the face of the earth, which is what Tom Homan just said, we would be in a serious confidence deficit in the United States of America and we would not be able to overcome.

• 1:08:54Mark Gagnon?

  We become Democrats. We become liberals.

• 1:08:55Speaker 03

  We might become liberal cocks without enough cocaine to propel us forward, or we gotta find Jesus fast.

• 1:09:01Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah, fast.

• 1:09:02Speaker 03

  Cause Jesus is emotional cocaine.

• 1:09:04Speaker 04

  That is true. That is true.

• 1:09:06Mark Gagnon?

  You're in church?

• 1:09:07Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:08Speaker 03

  You're in church, you're feeling it. That song hits you, the word hits you.

• 1:09:12Mark Gagnon?

  You walked on water.

• 1:09:12Mark Gagnon?

  Why does it put me to sleep then when I'm there?

• 1:09:14Speaker 03

  Say again?

• 1:09:15Mark Gagnon?

  Why does it put me to sleep?

• 1:09:16Speaker 03

  Well, because you're a gay person.

• 1:09:17Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 1:09:19Speaker 04

  Jesus don't like y'all, that's a fact.

• 1:09:22Mark Gagnon?

  That is true.

• 1:09:23Speaker 03

  It's trying to nod you off.

• 1:09:24Mark Gagnon?

  It's a lot of energy.

• 1:09:25Speaker 03

  Do liberals do cocaine?

• 1:09:26Mark Gagnon?

  I feel like it's not like liberal drug.

• 1:09:28Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 1:09:29Mark Gagnon?

  Like, what would you?

• 1:09:30Speaker 04

  That's why they lost?

• 1:09:31Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, they do.

• 1:09:31Mark Gagnon?

  Fuck my wife faster, you know what I mean?

• 1:09:36Mark Gagnon?

  Like, what is, you know what I mean?

• 1:09:37Speaker 03

  It's not a liberal drug, dude.

• 1:09:39Mark Gagnon?

  What do gay guys are doing?

• 1:09:40Speaker 03

  Say again? Gay guys aren't liberal.

• 1:09:41Mark Gagnon?

  They do molly, they do MDMA, they're all, yeah. How liberal are they, dude? I think gays are true.

• 1:09:47Speaker 03

  They're doing poppers. They're doing poppers, bro, loosen that hole, loosen that hole, Fred.

• 1:09:51Mark Gagnon?

  Ecstasy, liberals do ecstasy, because they gotta feel happy sometimes.

• 1:09:54Speaker 03

  Why do they do all these drugs? Do they not have to worry about it because they're already going to hell? According to Jesus? Jesus said nothing wrong about doing drugs, yo. Jesus was all about getting a pot, then watering some wine.

• 1:10:08Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 1:10:08Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, the, yeah, the bush. Some people think at the Last Supper, that possibly that was a form of, like, a psychological, you know, drug.

• 1:10:16Speaker 03

  Psychedelic.

• 1:10:17Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah, psychedelic drug.

• 1:10:18Mark Gagnon?

  You almost got it.

• 1:10:21Mark Gagnon?

  I still think about five cents being nine cents. How the fuck is that impossible? Turn this, what?

• 1:10:26Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:10:27Mark Gagnon?

  How does that happen?

• 1:10:27Speaker 03

  Um, what else? Anything else, my boys? Did you save the Democratic Party?

• 1:10:31Mark Gagnon?

  This shit is dangerous.

• 1:10:32Speaker 03

  Talk to us, talk to us, talk to us.

• 1:10:33Mark Gagnon?

  You can't talk like that. I can understand if you want to try to stop what the cartels are doing, but don't talk tough.

• 1:10:40Speaker 03

  We're America. Cartels are about that action for real.

• 1:10:44Mark Gagnon?

  Do you not think we're about that action?

• 1:10:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I don't want to go. Let's go.

• 1:10:48Mark Gagnon?

  They're watching our every move.

• 1:10:50Speaker 03

  Listen, Al. You listen fucking close.

• 1:10:53Speaker 04

  Run that back from the top.

• 1:10:54Speaker 03

  No, it's good, it's good, it's good.

• 1:10:55Mark Gagnon?

  Al Qaeda.

• 1:10:57Mark Gagnon?

  This is beautiful.

• 1:10:57Mark Gagnon?

  They may be watching this right now.

• 1:10:59Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 1:10:59Speaker 03

  Turn this shit up.

• 1:11:01Mark Gagnon?

  Our military should not be mistaken for a cable news gabfest show.

• 1:11:05Speaker 03

  Not a gabfest show.

• 1:11:06Mark Gagnon?

  We don't care what you look like.

• 1:11:07Speaker 03

  We don't care.

• 1:11:08Mark Gagnon?

  We don't care who you voted for.

• 1:11:09Speaker 03

  We don't care.

• 1:11:10Mark Gagnon?

  Who you worship, what you worship, who you love. It doesn't matter if your dad left you millions when he died, or if he knew who your father was.

• 1:11:20Mark Gagnon?

  We have been honed into a machine of lethal moving parts that you would be wise to avoid if you know what's good for you.

• 1:11:27Speaker 03

  God damn.

• 1:11:28Mark Gagnon?

  Preach.

• 1:11:28Mark Gagnon?

  We will not be intimidated, we will not back down.

• 1:11:33Speaker 04

  We've seen war. We don't want war.

• 1:11:35Mark Gagnon?

  Nope, we don't want it.

• 1:11:36Speaker 04

  But if you want war with the United States of America, there's one thing I can promise you, so help me God. Someone else will raise your sons and daughters.

• 1:11:44Mark Gagnon?

  Oh shit, god damn.

• 1:11:49Speaker 04

  You worry about the cartels now?

• 1:11:51Speaker 03

  Come on, bro.

• 1:11:52Speaker 04

  You worry about the cartels when we got satellites?

• 1:11:54Mark Gagnon?

  Son, that full list, there's a giant mass of water separating us from all the motherfuckers. That's the difference. Cartel is here.

• 1:12:04Speaker 03

  We got a wall.

• 1:12:05Mark Gagnon?

  They're down the street right now.

• 1:12:07Speaker 03

  You don't think we know where they at?

• 1:12:09Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, it's crazy.

• 1:12:10Speaker 03

  Do you think we don't know where they at?

• 1:12:12Mark Gagnon?

  Just mark my words, it's fine.

• 1:12:12Speaker 03

  You don't think we can find a car- I can find them cartels right now, find sixteen Mexicans playing five on five? Or basketball cartels?

• 1:12:19Mark Gagnon?

  I told you about the China sleeper cells.

• 1:12:22Speaker 03

  Cartel.

• 1:12:23Mark Gagnon?

  I told you about the China sleeper cells?

• 1:12:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:12:24Mark Gagnon?

  The cartel, we go to war with the cartels, we lose. Guaranteed.

• 1:12:27Speaker 03

  How? How we gonna win?

• 1:12:29Mark Gagnon?

  Bro, we lose, bro.

• 1:12:30Speaker 03

  Al, do you remember? You're so scary, bro.

• 1:12:32Mark Gagnon?

  We lose.

• 1:12:33Speaker 03

  You are so scary.

• 1:12:34Mark Gagnon?

  These motherfuckers do not play.

• 1:12:35Speaker 03

  We don't play, we got satellites.

• 1:12:37Mark Gagnon?

  No, but we at least have like decency, we try not to kill kids. They're killing wives, kids, they're killing everybody.

• 1:12:43Speaker 03

  We have decency?

• 1:12:44Mark Gagnon?

  A little bit.

• 1:12:45Speaker 03

  We invented killing kids.

• 1:12:47Speaker 04

  But you think they got their business model?

• 1:12:49Mark Gagnon?

  Thank you.

• 1:12:50Speaker 04

  Son, we draw strike waiting.

• 1:12:52Mark Gagnon?

  Just remember.

• 1:12:53Speaker 04

  You want to go draw strike at quinceañera like ain't nothing?

• 1:12:56Speaker 03

  Nothing. Light work. We taking out the pinyas.

• 1:12:59Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, we apologize.

• 1:13:01Speaker 03

  Ain't no, no apology.

• 1:13:02Mark Gagnon?

  How are we gonna find the cartel, bro? They're blasting music right now. It's not gonna be fucking hard. They're playing Bad Bunny, go get them. What are you talking about?

• 1:13:09Speaker 03

  You really think it's a problem to take out the cartel?

• 1:13:12Mark Gagnon?

  Alright.

• 1:13:13Speaker 04

  Playing music on the subway on their phone, no headphones.

• 1:13:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Listen to Paycell, go get them. Can't even control these motherfuckers.

• 1:13:20Speaker 03

  Al, that's the Mexican government.

• 1:13:22Speaker 04

  Oh, so how many United States government?

• 1:13:25Mark Gagnon?

  They can't do it.

• 1:13:26Speaker 04

  Oh my god, they bring their military.

• 1:13:27Mark Gagnon?

  What the hell?

• 1:13:29Speaker 03

  This is insane.

• 1:13:30Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 1:13:31Mark Gagnon?

  What I'm? Al, do you remember when four Americans got killed going to get BBLs or whatever in Mexico? And then they put nine of those motherfuckers chained?

• 1:13:39Speaker 03

  ended up on the border and said, we're sorry. We didn't mean to kill Americans. The cartel doesn't want to fuck with America. Cause we played that one time.

• 1:13:46Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:47Speaker 03

  We played that one time and then they took nine people.

• 1:13:50Mark Gagnon?

  That's a good point.

• 1:13:51Speaker 03

  Handcuffed them.

• 1:13:51Mark Gagnon?

  I just, I just don't want that.

• 1:13:53Speaker 03

  Al, let me tell you something. We buttfuck.

• 1:13:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So help me God, we buttfuck. We are pulling up to the cartel's, we are buttfucking. You ready to shit pushed in? No, that is a real, that is a real thing. That is a real thing. Why is this helping out? I'll do the praise.

• 1:14:11Mark Gagnon?

  Doesn't matter. Just use feel.

• 1:14:13Speaker 03

  They're watching right now. We buttfuck them. Al, Al, it's not enough. Say in Spanish so they know. It's not enough. Say in Spanish so they know. Rompe culo.

• 1:14:24Speaker 03

  Rompemos culo. That's what happens if you mess with the United States of America. So help me God. Vamos a romper tu culo.

• 1:14:34Mark Gagnon?

  That means we're gonna buttfuck.

• 1:14:35Speaker 03

  That is a guarantee. You gotta tell the cartels this right now. They're not afraid to die. They're afraid to get their shit put forward.

• 1:14:42Mark Gagnon?

  I thought Trump's America is no war.

• 1:14:44Speaker 03

  It's not gonna be a war, bro. It's not gonna be a war. It's not gonna be a war. It's not gonna be a war. It is fuck butts. Let Diddy out of jail then. We can eat Diddy on the front. Now, this is Diddy's redemption arc. We gonna send him there. Sal's baby oil. We keeping all the baby oil here. He gonna go there with sand.

• 1:15:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's what's gonna happen now. I'm telling you right now. I don't want you to be afraid. I don't want you to be scared anymore in Donald Trump's America. If this was Kamala Harris's America and you had some fucking tranny robot at the front lines going to take out the cartels, of course that's gonna be an issue. She probably gonna start to suck all her dicks all the time.

• 1:15:25Mark Gagnon?

  That's a scary sight.

• 1:15:26Speaker 03

  What do you mean?

• 1:15:27Mark Gagnon?

  Tranny on the front line is a scary sight.

• 1:15:29Speaker 03

  Why?

• 1:15:31Mark Gagnon?

  Pull up that lady.

• 1:15:34Speaker 03

  I'm running.

• 1:15:36Mark Gagnon?

  This is the Department of Health. I'm gonna take out the cartels.

• 1:15:40Speaker 03

  I am running, bro.

• 1:15:45Speaker 04

  That's one of the hardest speeches in our lifetime.

• 1:15:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, shout out to Captain Belavio. Talking all that shit for me, God. I'm telling you.

• 1:15:52Speaker 04

  We ain't fighting, they're fighting.

• 1:15:53Speaker 03

  I know you don't think we're afraid. I know you don't think, listen, if we stop bombing other countries out there in the Middle East, we gonna get itchy.

• 1:16:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's true.

• 1:16:02Speaker 03

  We gonna get itchy, we gonna need to bomb somebody. When America stops bombing, the rest of the world is on notice, like, yo, do not piss them off. We're like a, like a alcoholic father in the house.

• 1:16:13Speaker 03

  We just waiting for our team to go down seven. Someone's getting big slapped. America's having a bad day. Bad day. Someone needs to get their culo rompe.

• 1:16:25Speaker 03

  That needs to happen. We need to rompe culo. That needs to happen, that's all I hope. Say again? It's not a good thing. What do you think is not a good thing?

• 1:16:36Speaker 04

  You don't think Mexico will be thankful we took care of the cartels? What are you, what are you saying right now? Al, what do you believe? Tell me real quick.

• 1:16:43Speaker 03

  You don't think it'd be nice, we can liberate the, honestly, I'm so biased because I'm American, we're the greatest people, but if there's a second greatest people on the face of the universe is the Mexican people, you don't think that they would like to be liberated from these cartels? The most joyous, loving, accepting, kind, supportive, fun people on the fucking planet? You don't think they want to be liberated from these, these horrible cartels through a vicious butt thrashing?

• 1:17:09Speaker 03

  Butt thrashing doesn't sound tactical. That sounds like gossip.

• 1:17:12Speaker 04

  Who said we were tactical?

• 1:17:15Speaker 03

  That sounds like parking lot.

• 1:17:19Speaker 04

  We getting parking lot, let's go.

• 1:17:21Speaker 03

  So then all those beautiful Mexican people that we love, they're gonna be gone too? No, no, no, we gonna get them out the way. Oh, go to the south. You'll be safe there.

• 1:17:36Speaker 03

  Two birds right there. So you gotta go down south, that shit works. No, we gonna move them, bro. We're gonna get them into a nice little seg- you can move. I trust you guys. Let's be optimistic, alright?

• 1:17:47Speaker 04

  Hey, real talk, if you had to help the Ukraine fight Russia or the Mexicans fight the cartels, where do you think our resources are better spent? Cause we're in wars no matter what.

• 1:17:59Speaker 03

  In the version if we're helping Ukraine, are we still going to war with the cartels or we're not?

• 1:18:04Speaker 04

  Nah, he's saying we're gonna stop. We'll just take him at his word for now.

• 1:18:07Speaker 03

  I said nah, I'm going to send it to fucking Ukraine. I don't want that drama. I like, I'm going to Cancun in December, bro. This is what this is about. This is what this is about. Don't go to Cancun. Both and shit like that.

• 1:18:21Speaker 04

  That's what this is all things about.

• 1:18:23Speaker 03

  It really is.

• 1:18:23Speaker 04

  January, you'll be singing a different tune.

• 1:18:24Speaker 03

  Dog gets kidnapped. That's foul. I hope that's foul. That's crazy. I hope that happens. When I found out how much we're paying dog walkers for my dog.

• 1:18:34Speaker 04

  That's crazy.

• 1:18:35Speaker 03

  I hope my dog is kidnapped.

• 1:18:37Speaker 04

  I never wish that on you, Al.

• 1:18:40Speaker 04

  I hope you get kidnapped, though. That I can wish with no conscience whatsoever.

• 1:18:45Speaker 03

  Ain't nobody kidnapping Al.

• 1:18:49Speaker 03

  You gotta deal with that for a fucking week. You can give him back.

• 1:18:53Speaker 04

  This guy's just rude.

• 1:18:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:18:54Speaker 04

  This guy's just rude.

• 1:18:55Speaker 03

  He's clumpy, in a fucking mood all the goddamn time. What was the cartel? He's like, I hate these Puerto Ricans, watch.

• 1:19:04Speaker 03

  Fucking garbage island. Tony Hitzkamp was right.

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• 1:21:07Speaker 03

  Okay, what else we got, my boys?

• 1:21:09Mark Gagnon?

  Crypto's up.

• 1:21:11Speaker 04

  Yo, we out here, dude.

• 1:21:12Speaker 03

  Shout out to crypto, bro. You could tell who voted for Kamala but also got crypto.

• 1:21:18Speaker 03

  Right? Because they all of a sudden are very supportive of this Donald Trump administration coming in. They're like, give them a chance, you know? Shout out, shout out Bitcoin.

• 1:21:29Mark Gagnon?

  Yep.

• 1:21:30Speaker 03

  Nah, for real, though, shout out Bitcoin. We got Bitcoin.

• 1:21:33Mark Gagnon?

  You're up. You still got, you still got a coin or that?

• 1:21:35Speaker 04

  Aren't you glad I told you to hold on?

• 1:21:37Speaker 03

  No, no, you right. You told us to hold. Have you been able to access your wallet yet? Nah, we took all the shit off. Oh, you did? Yeah, because I wasn't, I was scared about the what's it calls, but you know what? I'm bullish now. Matter of fact, crypto companies that, you got to be legit. You got to be the ones that have actually made it through. You know, Kraken made it through.

• 1:21:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:21:58Speaker 03

  Now is time. Now y'all are rich.

• 1:21:59Mark Gagnon?

  Bro, if FCX just hold on, bro. If they just were able to hold on like two more years.

• 1:22:04Speaker 03

  That's all they had to do.

• 1:22:05Speaker 04

  I mean, it was a long ass time. It wasn't like 30 days.

• 1:22:08Speaker 03

  Nah, two years, bro.

• 1:22:09Speaker 04

  It was almost a thousand days.

• 1:22:11Mark Gagnon?

  Just don't be so greedy for two years.

• 1:22:13Speaker 03

  I know, they just had to wait.

• 1:22:14Mark Gagnon?

  If you just wait, you can do a Ponzi scheme now, like maybe way more money. He's in prison looking at this, being like, oh, fuck.

• 1:22:19Speaker 04

  If any of y'all can help me get back the crypto I lost, it's a considerable amount. That'd be fantastic.

• 1:22:23Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, wait, how'd you lose it?

• 1:22:24Speaker 04

  The company's folded, etc.

• 1:22:26Speaker 03

  How much did you lose in now money?

• 1:22:28Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:22:29Mark Gagnon?

  I'll tell you, I'll tell you.

• 1:22:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, ask Mark.

• 1:22:31Mark Gagnon?

  About like 12 cents or something. I can't figure it out.

• 1:22:35Mark Gagnon?

  For real, I don't understand.

• 1:22:38Speaker 04

  Oh, man. Oh, good amount. A good amount. It's a good amount.

• 1:22:42Mark Gagnon?

  Six? Six digits?

• 1:22:43Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. Yeah. What are we talking about?

• 1:22:49Speaker 03

  How much? How much in initial investment?

• 1:22:51Mark Gagnon?

  How many Cybertrucks? How many Cybertrucks?

• 1:22:53Speaker 04

  Probably six figures, be honest with you.

• 1:22:55Mark Gagnon?

  Wow.

• 1:22:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:22:56Mark Gagnon?

  What, you lost six figures back then?

• 1:22:58Speaker 04

  Not at its lowest.

• 1:23:00Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:23:02Speaker 03

  It was worth nothing. You lost nothing.

• 1:23:03Speaker 04

  But based on my, my average strike price, yeah. Yeah, for sure.

• 1:23:08Speaker 03

  How much was your Tesla Cybertruck, Al?

• 1:23:10Mark Gagnon?

  Uh, about a hundred.

• 1:23:11Speaker 04

  You know, it's crazy. Even with that, I'm still up. Bro, that's crazy.

• 1:23:15Speaker 03

  So a hundred, but you, I imagine, leased it through the business?

• 1:23:19Mark Gagnon?

  No, financed through the business, yeah.

• 1:23:20Speaker 03

  But it's, it's, oh, you purchased the car?

• 1:23:22Mark Gagnon?

  Purchased it, yeah.

• 1:23:23Speaker 03

  Well, I purchased it instead of leasing.

• 1:23:24Mark Gagnon?

  You can't lease Cybertrucks.

• 1:23:26Speaker 03

  They have a leasing office with Tesla?

• 1:23:28Mark Gagnon?

  Not for Cybertrucks.

• 1:23:29Speaker 03

  Oh, but with the regular cars?

• 1:23:30Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:30Speaker 03

  Got it. But financing it is the same, essentially.

• 1:23:34Mark Gagnon?

  Same thing.

• 1:23:34Speaker 03

  Because there's a, got it, got it, got it.

• 1:23:35Speaker 04

  We did sell the final product. What does it look like? Somebody texted me, they saw you in a Cybertruck. That's how I found out you got one.

• 1:23:41Speaker 03

  I've been in it. It's cool.

• 1:23:42Mark Gagnon?

  It's nice.

• 1:23:43Speaker 03

  It's nice.

• 1:23:43Mark Gagnon?

  It's really nice.

• 1:23:44Speaker 04

  Shout out to Julio, Ruby Rosa, but he said, I saw Al in a Cybertruck. I was angry about it. I said, fuck Al got a Cybertruck.

• 1:23:50Mark Gagnon?

  I put the little stars in the ceiling and shit. That shit looks fire.

• 1:23:53Speaker 04

  Oh, that's sick.

• 1:23:55Speaker 03

  Oh, you did not do that.

• 1:23:56Mark Gagnon?

  Come on.

• 1:23:57Speaker 04

  Nah, I see somebody.

• 1:23:58Mark Gagnon?

  Fabulous. Shout out to Project.

• 1:23:59Speaker 04

  Nah, the Rolls Royce, the Rolls Royce Phantom has that. Nah, I've never seen anybody add it to a shittier car, but the Rolls Royce Phantom has that.

• 1:24:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, we know the Phantom.

• 1:24:08Speaker 04

  That's what I'm saying. My Honda Accord has a massive dent in the backseat passenger side that never got fixed. Thank you. 2012, still running strong.

• 1:24:17Mark Gagnon?

  Damn, bro, you put the stars in it?

• 1:24:19Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, trust me, it looks amazing.

• 1:24:22Speaker 03

  Spinners?

• 1:24:24Mark Gagnon?

  Is that right?

• 1:24:24Mark Gagnon?

  You would do. Call exhibit.

• 1:24:26Mark Gagnon?

  Every once in a while, I forget how truly ghetto Alex is, and then he does something like this, and I'm like, wow.

• 1:24:33Speaker 03

  Putting the stars on the ceiling of a non Rolls Royce.

• 1:24:38Mark Gagnon?

  Just you get in the car and it's just the galaxy, man.

• 1:24:44Mark Gagnon?

  See Orion's Bell over here.

• 1:24:47Mark Gagnon?

  Come on, it's amazing, man. So we got too much light pollution in here, so I had to, you know, bring the galaxy to me.

• 1:24:55Speaker 03

  I mean, so is it a feature they offer? Did you stick stars on the ceiling of this?

• 1:25:00Mark Gagnon?

  Customs. They don't do that. Yeah, they prefer if you don't do that. They actually.

• 1:25:05Speaker 04

  What color is it?

• 1:25:06Speaker 03

  This is what the IRS is letting him write off. Isn't that funny? This is what the IRS.

• 1:25:10Mark Gagnon?

  I need it for my business. I have to.

• 1:25:12Speaker 03

  You need the stars on the ceiling.

• 1:25:14Mark Gagnon?

  You need lighting that lights the equipment. Yes, yes. Come on, guys. Jesus Christ. Let's move on.

• 1:25:23Speaker 04

  What color is it?

• 1:25:25Mark Gagnon?

  Uh, it's a Tunston gray, a satin Tunston gray. Sorry. I got it out, but then the satin kind of. It's a G, it's absolutely a G. Yeah. Real G's moving silent.

• 1:25:39Mark Gagnon?

  That's what I'm talking about.

• 1:25:43Mark Gagnon?

  You wrapped it? Yeah.

• 1:25:44Speaker 03

  You wrapped it?

• 1:25:47Mark Gagnon?

  Pun. You have to. Yeah, it only comes in one color. It's only steel, and then the steel has all the fucking fingerprints.

• 1:25:52Speaker 04

  I've seen them black ones, them look fire.

• 1:25:53Mark Gagnon?

  That's all rap. That's all rap. Anytime you see a color, it's rap.

• 1:25:57Speaker 04

  Wow. I saw a white one recently.

• 1:26:00Mark Gagnon?

  This guy got a fucking Tonka trunk in the Hamptons and he's.

• 1:26:03Speaker 03

  You gotta be fucking crazy.

• 1:26:07Speaker 03

  I said Tonka trunk.

• 1:26:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, that did hurt. Still funny though.

• 1:26:12Mark Gagnon?

  I gave you the credit for it.

• 1:26:15Speaker 03

  Okay, what else we got, guys?

• 1:26:17Mark Gagnon?

  I mean, voter fraud, apparently they stole the election. Every election's fake.

• 1:26:21Speaker 04

  Conveniently.

• 1:26:22Speaker 03

  What else, what else, what else?

• 1:26:23Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, you were talking about some chicken lady yesterday. I still don't know this thing.

• 1:26:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, okay.

• 1:26:28Mark Gagnon?

  So there is. Let me tell you something.

• 1:26:34Mark Gagnon?

  I looked into it and still don't know. The British girl, she's like, oh, you bought chicken?

• 1:26:40Speaker 04

  There's so many chicken, there's so many white chicken ladies, it is confusing.

• 1:26:43Speaker 03

  There's a lot of white chicken ladies.

• 1:26:45Mark Gagnon?

  I get why y'all like them.

• 1:26:49Speaker 03

  Chicken fry. Oh, God. So, so, yeah, so here's my advice to anybody.

• 1:27:00Speaker 03

  Whatever you do.

• 1:27:05Speaker 03

  So help me God, do not give Dave Portnoy a reason to wake up in the morning and make content.

• 1:27:15Speaker 04

  That's a scary.

• 1:27:15Speaker 03

  Because your life will be fucking hell.

• 1:27:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:27:21Speaker 03

  This guy. We gotta add him to the list. So Portnoy.

• 1:27:24Speaker 04

  Candace Owens.

• 1:27:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:27:25Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:27:26Mark Gagnon?

  The cartel.

• 1:27:26Speaker 04

  He's on that list.

• 1:27:27Speaker 03

  Coffeezilla. Cause he already got so. Coffeezilla. Coffeezilla, you know what? Don't let the suspens. Come on. There's a few you gotta stay away from. I'm telling you. It is, there is a relentlessness. Fifty Cent. Fifty, exactly. There's a few people that it's just not worth it. It is not worth it. Especially like, Dave's got all the money in the world, so you don't need to do anything.

• 1:27:48Speaker 04

  Yeah. What motivates him?

• 1:27:49Speaker 03

  But if you give him a reason to wake up, I remember seeing the drama happen with this, like, there's this country singer named, I guess, Zac Brown.

• 1:27:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:27:58Speaker 03

  He's apparently like a huge country singer. Yeah, he's nice. Pull him up. What is the song of this guy? I cannot name one song.

• 1:28:02Speaker 04

  So I listened to the song that he wrote about Chicken Fries Friend.

• 1:28:07Speaker 03

  He made a song about Chicken Fries Friend?

• 1:28:10Speaker 04

  It's just such a ridiculous sentence to say.

• 1:28:12Speaker 03

  Chicken Fry. A little bit of chicken fried. Yeah. Cold beer on Friday night. That's him?

• 1:28:18Speaker 04

  No, that's not him. This guy is like more like.

• 1:28:19Speaker 03

  Pele jeans and. Yo, I got a Chicken's Ash.

• 1:28:22Speaker 04

  Pink Skies is the one that.

• 1:28:23Speaker 03

  I gotta try to appropriate.

• 1:28:25Mark Gagnon?

  That's also Zac. That's Zac Brown. We were talking about Zac Brown.

• 1:28:28Speaker 03

  So there's a Zac Brian and then there's a Zac Brown.

• 1:28:32Mark Gagnon?

  Zac Brown Band.

• 1:28:33Speaker 03

  Band.

• 1:28:33Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:34Speaker 03

  But that Chicken Fried song is fire.

• 1:28:36Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:36Speaker 04

  This guy's less like fun party. It seems like this guy's more like artsy kind of.

• 1:28:41Speaker 03

  Well, what, can we play a song of?

• 1:28:42Speaker 04

  Pink Skies is what I heard.

• 1:28:43Speaker 03

  The oranges. Play a song of Chicken Fried Boyfriend's.

• 1:28:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:28:47Speaker 03

  Song.

• 1:28:48Mark Gagnon?

  All right. So we're, I'm gonna play it and then just give me your honest reaction.

• 1:28:53Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:28:53Mark Gagnon?

  Right when we come back in, okay?

• 1:28:54Speaker 03

  So this is Mr. Chicken Lady.

• 1:28:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:28:57Speaker 03

  Chicken lady's boyfriend.

• 1:28:58Mark Gagnon?

  Alright, fire.

• 1:29:00Speaker 03

  I liked it.

• 1:29:00Mark Gagnon?

  Absolutely.

• 1:29:01Speaker 04

  It's good.

• 1:29:01Speaker 03

  And that's the first time I've ever heard, I think, a song from this guy.

• 1:29:05Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, Something in the Orange by Zac Brown.

• 1:29:07Speaker 03

  But, like, really nice.

• 1:29:09Mark Gagnon?

  He's good.

• 1:29:09Speaker 03

  I like the music.

• 1:29:10Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:29:11Speaker 03

  So, apparently, he was emotionally abusing Chicken Lady.

• 1:29:17Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:29:17Speaker 03

  Chicken Girl.

• 1:29:20Speaker 04

  Chicken Woman.

• 1:29:20Speaker 03

  Chicken Woman. Brianna Chicken Fried.

• 1:29:24Mark Gagnon?

  Correct pronoun, bro.

• 1:29:25Speaker 03

  Chicken Fried.

• 1:29:30Speaker 03

  We're on Team Portnoy, so whoever of those two he supports, we support.

• 1:29:35Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:29:35Speaker 03

  We support them. Uh, and then, so Chicken Fried went on, they have a podcast together with this, uh, another kid named Josh Roberts.

• 1:29:44Mark Gagnon?

  Richards.

• 1:29:45Speaker 03

  Fuck.

• 1:29:47Mark Gagnon?

  You don't know.

• 1:29:48Speaker 03

  I went on the pod with them.

• 1:29:49Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, Portnoy.

• 1:29:50Speaker 03

  I find him, I find, I find the Josh Richards kid good.

• 1:29:55Mark Gagnon?

  That was a dude that Dove was hating on yesterday.

• 1:29:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, Dove was trying to say he wasn't good looking, Dove.

• 1:29:59Speaker 03

  Nah, you lying, that kid cute as hell. Tanya, out of nowhere, somebody brings up Josh Richards on the thing, and out of nowhere, Tanya pops her head behind the screen and goes, "That kid's cute."

• 1:30:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:30:10Speaker 03

  You don't know what he asked.

• 1:30:11Mark Gagnon?

  She said it way worse, she goes, "He's cute for his age."

• 1:30:13Speaker 03

  Oh, for his age. You don't need no caveats here, Tanya. That man handsome for all ages.

• 1:30:18Speaker 04

  He looks like an avatar.

• 1:30:19Speaker 03

  Look at him, okay?

• 1:30:20Mark Gagnon?

  He's like the bear guy.

• 1:30:22Speaker 03

  Josh Richards, okay? Anyway, so they all do a podcast together, and, uh, and, you know, once Dave heard that his girl was hurt, you know, Dave's gonna ride for his people.

• 1:30:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, he does.

• 1:30:36Speaker 03

  So Dave came out, and I respect that, you gotta ride for the gang. Zac Brown, you did the dumbest thing you could ever done in your fucking life, you gotta learn from the enemies of Dave Portnoy. He will not stop until you stop. You are destroyed.

• 1:30:50Speaker 04

  So, yeah, her side of the story, I looked in this a bit, her side of the story she told on the pod with Dave is, uh, basically, they dated, everything was good for a few months, and then after like four months, it just got toxic, he would get really temperamental out of nowhere, and, uh, then I think he... Would pitch like huge fits like one, one time he, she asked him to go to her best friend's grandmother's funeral. He caused a huge scene was basically like fuck you. I'm not gonna do this. Ended up having to go to the funeral and then wrote one of his new massive hits about going to that funeral about the person. He hated his dead grandmother, whatever. It was kind of like, if you're the friend, you're like, you treat me like shit. Apparently he yelled at that friend, threw like a glass at her head.

• 1:31:29Speaker 03

  At the funeral?

• 1:31:30Speaker 04

  And no, later, just another holiday.

• 1:31:31Speaker 03

  I'm like, damn.

• 1:31:32Speaker 04

  Just another holiday.

• 1:31:33Speaker 03

  Enough.

• 1:31:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's my bad. He had another like holiday. He like had all of them over somehow. And then Chicken Fried went to sleep and then he was just like, started going nuts on the friends. You're all moochers. None of you worth anything, et cetera, et cetera. Threw a glass near them, broke, shattered, whatever, like went nuts. Apparently this, these are like emotionally abusive things that he would do a lot. Dave Portnoy hears this, starts going in on Zach Bryan. Apparently Zach Bryan would always shit on Portnoy and shit on the podcast, try to get her to leave.

• 1:32:00Speaker 03

  Publicly or just to her?

• 1:32:02Speaker 04

  Just to her, but he also, when he dumped her, she was just like, hey, can I announce, can I just tell people on my own terms? He's like, yeah, fine. Then announces it on his IG two days later. And then all of a sudden she starts getting offers for NDAs. Please don't say anything about this relationship.

• 1:32:15Speaker 03

  She offered 12 million.

• 1:32:16Speaker 04

  The price goes up to 12 million. Cause she says no over and over and over. Price keeps going up to 12 million, which leaves you to believe he didn't want this shit coming out publicly.

• 1:32:24Speaker 03

  Nah, he hit her.

• 1:32:26Speaker 04

  I mean, she's, she's not saying he hit her. She's not saying that, but for whatever it is, he tore 12 million for him to say, don't tell people what I did. So that's the thing.

• 1:32:37Speaker 03

  Cassie got 30 for 12. That's like, that's a half a cast.

• 1:32:41Speaker 04

  12 is just an elevator.

• 1:32:46Speaker 04

  Just an elevator. Yo, Cassie asked for 30 for years.

• 1:32:49Speaker 03

  And also, Diddy's a billionaire.

• 1:32:52Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:53Speaker 03

  Zach Bryan isn't a billionaire, I don't think. Zach Bryan, whatever, fuck, man.

• 1:33:01Speaker 03

  Four white people names in country. Zach Bryan is a billionaire.

• 1:33:07Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:33:07Speaker 03

  There's a Luke Bryan.

• 1:33:08Mark Gagnon?

  Great.

• 1:33:08Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 1:33:09Mark Gagnon?

  Come on, come on, come on, come on.

• 1:33:10Speaker 04

  Chicken fried rice.

• 1:33:11Speaker 03

  Chicken fried rice, did you just say?

• 1:33:18Mark Gagnon?

  I think that'll go. Nah, that is their favorite song. There you go. Yeah, they love that.

• 1:33:22Speaker 03

  That's by Zach Blyatt, man.

• 1:33:25Speaker 04

  Yo, Fortnite wrote a diss song about this guy.

• 1:33:27Speaker 03

  Bro, with Josh Richards.

• 1:33:29Speaker 04

  It's called Country Diddy.

• 1:33:31Speaker 03

  And they go hard.

• 1:33:32Speaker 04

  Crazy, my man.

• 1:33:34Speaker 03

  Saying my man got STDs and shit.

• 1:33:37Mark Gagnon?

  That's foul.

• 1:33:38Speaker 04

  They going in. And the cover is a Lego because everybody said his head is like a Lego block?

• 1:33:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, but if you saying he got STDs, then you kinda saying you're... That's the other thing that's a little wild.

• 1:33:49Mark Gagnon?

  Isn't he putting out a... That's called collateral damage, okay? You ever bomb a wedding and take out a terrorist now?

• 1:33:55Speaker 03

  That is the thing.

• 1:33:56Mark Gagnon?

  That's not how you do it.

• 1:33:57Speaker 03

  You gotta get permission from Chicken Wing to go out and talk about the STD shit because we're all gonna assume...

• 1:34:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, Chicken Fried got it.

• 1:34:05Speaker 03

  The Chicken Fried got it.

• 1:34:06Mark Gagnon?

  Chicken Fried got it.

• 1:34:07Speaker 04

  The fried chicken got it.

• 1:34:11Mark Gagnon?

  That's crazy.

• 1:34:15Mark Gagnon?

  Damn.

• 1:34:16Speaker 03

  Turnin' down 12 million is...

• 1:34:19Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, I think he, I think there's more to the story. I think she's not saying anything.

• 1:34:23Speaker 03

  You let a girl emotionally abuse you for 12 million?

• 1:34:26Mark Gagnon?

  Wait, what?

• 1:34:30Speaker 03

  I'm not to beg.

• 1:34:33Speaker 03

  She emotionally abuses you for 12, but she gotta pay you 12 million at the end and you can't say anything?

• 1:34:38Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, fucking yeah, I'm already emotionally abused.

• 1:34:44Mark Gagnon?

  My girl is Spanish, dude.

• 1:34:47Speaker 03

  She's from Spain. Stop doing that. She's from Spain.

• 1:34:51Mark Gagnon?

  What are you hearing in Spain?

• 1:34:53Speaker 03

  From Spain. In New York, Spanish is Puerto Rican, Dominican, he's trying to like, he's trying to back her into that shit.

• 1:34:59Mark Gagnon?

  I'm trying to talk correct.

• 1:35:01Speaker 04

  He did try to Puerto Rican it up right there.

• 1:35:02Speaker 03

  Oh, she's gonna stab me. You trying to do your like founders Tesla. You might want to do that with your girl, okay? She is from Spain. Cut that shit the fuck out.

• 1:35:11Speaker 04

  She's Spaniard. She's Spaniard. She's Spaniard.

• 1:35:14Mark Gagnon?

  My latita.

• 1:35:19Speaker 03

  12 milli, 12 milli for emotional abuse?

• 1:35:21Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:22Speaker 03

  Akos, 12?

• 1:35:23Speaker 04

  Yes, yes, yes. I do it first.

• 1:35:25Speaker 03

  Physical abuse?

• 1:35:26Mark Gagnon?

  First of all, I can take my girls. I'm not worried about being physically abused.

• 1:35:30Speaker 03

  12 milli?

• 1:35:31Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, like what could you do that's not worth 12 million? People do boxing fights for two.

• 1:35:35Speaker 03

  That's...

• 1:35:36Mark Gagnon?

  For a hundred thousand.

• 1:35:37Speaker 03

  Alright Akos, 12 milli?

• 1:35:39Speaker 04

  Yeah dude, yeah. It's not even a question. I do it for a hundred dollars.

• 1:35:43Speaker 03

  12 milli but people are gonna think that you got an STD? No, they wouldn't even think you got an STD because you're not allowed to talk about it.

• 1:35:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, they just give it to other people.

• 1:35:55Speaker 03

  Yo, so hold on, so she...

• 1:35:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yo.

• 1:35:57Speaker 03

  So she didn't get 12 milli and she got everybody thinking she's burned?

• 1:36:03Speaker 04

  Is that a fact?

• 1:36:04Speaker 03

  There's more.

• 1:36:05Speaker 04

  Is that a fact that she said she got the STD? He said that Ryan has an STD?

• 1:36:09Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know.

• 1:36:10Speaker 04

  We need to find out if that's true.

• 1:36:12Mark Gagnon?

  But I heard in his song, it's like it's a Lego guy that said it.

• 1:36:14Speaker 04

  No, did Portnoy say that though, that he has an STD?

• 1:36:17Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, I mean, yeah, they allude to it in the song.

• 1:36:19Speaker 03

  They don't even allude to it! Yeah, what did he say?

• 1:36:21Mark Gagnon?

  Well, it rhymes.

• 1:36:22Speaker 03

  Play that shit, play it, yeah. But isn't there a video?

• 1:36:25Speaker 04

  Is it gonna get flagged?

• 1:36:25Speaker 03

  Where it's like he's rapping? Yeah, play the actual music video.

• 1:36:30Mark Gagnon?

  Alright.

• 1:36:30Speaker 03

  Oh, but this has a lyric, so he just wants a lyric. Hey, white people, you don't have to make your voice like that when you rap.

• 1:36:39Speaker 03

  It's hard though! I can just rap regularly.

• 1:36:42Mark Gagnon?

  It's just hard. You gotta hit the RFK sometimes when you rap.

• 1:36:46Speaker 03

  You don't have to do that.

• 1:36:47Speaker 04

  Dude, that song was awesome. I love everything Dave Portnoy does. Fantastic.

• 1:36:53Speaker 03

  And I hate Henry Blodgett. Yeah, fuck Henry Blodgett. Yeah, exactly.

• 1:36:57Speaker 04

  Somebody we should hate.

• 1:36:58Mark Gagnon?

  You don't know.

• 1:36:59Speaker 03

  Oh, yep, we don't like you.

• 1:37:01Mark Gagnon?

  That was... I don't like all people named Henry.

• 1:37:07Speaker 04

  Kissinger, fuck you.

• 1:37:08Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but yeah, he said he got STDs, I'm pretty sure. Somewhere in the song, I can't find it though.

• 1:37:13Speaker 03

  Can we take a second to find, cause that's crazy if he really did that? Like how you put, how you burn your shirt? This, uh, this isn't even the song. Isn't it? This isn't? No.

• 1:37:24Mark Gagnon?

  This is posted by the...

• 1:37:25Speaker 04

  No, this is, he might have dropped two. I think he dropped two, believe it or not.

• 1:37:29Speaker 03

  Wow. He has two diss-

• 1:37:31Speaker 04

  Yeah dude, this, I'm telling you, this guy, this guy is living for this right now.

• 1:37:36Speaker 03

  There's a few, there's actually a couple witty bars- I give not.

• 1:37:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, if Dave Portman, I thought it was all witty boards.

• 1:37:42Speaker 03

  Pros.

• 1:37:42Speaker 04

  I didn't think there was a bad line in there. If Dave Portman wants to ruin you, you're ruined. It's there's nothing.

• 1:37:48Speaker 03

  It's called the small, it's called smallest man.

• 1:37:51Speaker 04

  This is the hero multiple.

• 1:37:55Speaker 04

  He went full Kendrick on us. He wrote multiple diss tracks before this guy could. Back to back, I like that record.

• 1:38:02Speaker 03

  Is that the girlfriend?

• 1:38:03Speaker 04

  That's Josh Roberts.

• 1:38:07Speaker 03

  Come on, bro, that's respect, man.

• 1:38:11Speaker 03

  He's got a lot of feminine features, bro, like.

• 1:38:15Speaker 04

  You meant it so seriously.

• 1:38:17Speaker 03

  Yo, he's handsome as fuck for his age, bro. Like a girl wearing a. Nice, he's pretty, can he be pretty, most of all? Damn.

• 1:38:26Speaker 04

  Hey, he's not bad.

• 1:38:27Speaker 03

  He's nice. Yeah, see, you can rap with a regular voice.

• 1:38:33Mark Gagnon?

  There it is.

• 1:38:33Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 1:38:34Speaker 03

  He's got. He's got it. He's actually, he's spitting. He's got it. He really just said his.

• 1:38:42Speaker 04

  And you're trying to fuck.

• 1:38:45Speaker 03

  And you're trying to fuck. You like that he raps good.

• 1:38:49Speaker 03

  You're attracted to that.

• 1:38:50Speaker 04

  I saw some skinny white girl and was like.

• 1:38:56Speaker 03

  Nah, but that's wild, bro. You don't put that in the diss track.

• 1:38:59Speaker 04

  That's craziness.

• 1:39:00Speaker 03

  Uh, do you think that they know what everyone else is thinking? Because the co-host is now burdened. That's what we're all thinking.

• 1:39:08Mark Gagnon?

  Out in her. That, yeah, it happens, bro.

• 1:39:10Speaker 03

  What do you mean it happens?

• 1:39:11Mark Gagnon?

  You gotta take that just to take down this guy. You got it, right? You worried about me?

• 1:39:16Speaker 03

  No, you're saying this happens, so.

• 1:39:18Mark Gagnon?

  I'm saying.

• 1:39:20Speaker 03

  Of all the people.

• 1:39:23Speaker 03

  Move away from yourself.

• 1:39:27Mark Gagnon?

  But like you can take down this guy. You could ruin his reputation and you just gotta say, oh, I got chlamydia one time.

• 1:39:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:39:35Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:39:35Mark Gagnon?

  Like you're assuming.

• 1:39:36Speaker 04

  There's other ways to do it.

• 1:39:37Speaker 03

  Nah, I was assuming it was herpes.

• 1:39:39Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but that's forever. That's a forever thing.

• 1:39:42Speaker 03

  Well, y'all assuming.

• 1:39:43Mark Gagnon?

  I thought it was.

• 1:39:45Speaker 03

  A chlamydia or gonorrhea is like.

• 1:39:47Speaker 04

  Light work. That's a fluke.

• 1:39:50Speaker 03

  It's the sniffles.

• 1:39:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's what we're talking about.

• 1:39:52Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:39:52Speaker 03

  And you're not gonna move away?

• 1:39:53Mark Gagnon?

  You moved away from me for making one comment. They said they have chlamydia.

• 1:39:57Speaker 03

  I mean, if you had to choose one, you would be chlamydia or gonorrhea.

• 1:40:00Speaker 04

  Absolutely. Absolutely. Feel the choice between chlamydia or gonorrhea every time. You know what I mean?

• 1:40:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, they should have said that, right?

• 1:40:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:40:12Speaker 03

  What rhymes with chlamydia?

• 1:40:13Mark Gagnon?

  What rhymes with chlamydia?

• 1:40:14Speaker 03

  No, but that's herpes. If you're going around giving it to other people.

• 1:40:18Speaker 04

  That was lightweight. That took nothing.

• 1:40:19Speaker 03

  Yo, you know what I saw on the Flagrant Memes account real quick that was absolutely terrifying to me? Is that?

• 1:40:25Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:40:27Speaker 03

  Instagram is gonna start notifying people when you go like that on the pic.

• 1:40:31Mark Gagnon?

  That's no.

• 1:40:32Speaker 04

  To see feet.

• 1:40:33Speaker 03

  No, that's not specifically to see feet. Yeah, obviously, but this motion, I thought you could do in like the privacy of your Instagram feed. But now people are gonna know and they don't really know what you're zooming into.

• 1:40:45Speaker 04

  We should verify this. I'm zooming on a pic of yours. You check your notifications.

• 1:40:49Speaker 03

  No, it doesn't happen to happen yet, but they're thinking of rolling it out. But anyway, go.

• 1:40:52Mark Gagnon?

  There's no way, bro.

• 1:40:53Speaker 03

  I'm safe, cuz all the girls I look at have augmented asses and butts. I never have to go make a pic.

• 1:40:59Mark Gagnon?

  This is government overreach, bro. This is the government overreach. Big tech is just not letting anyone have any more secrets.

• 1:41:05Speaker 03

  All right, to wrap up chickens, we basically have to...

• 1:41:10Speaker 03

  Listen, here's the reality is let this once in a...

• 1:41:12Mark Gagnon?

  Stop interviewing rappers in London and shit like that.

• 1:41:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:41:17Mark Gagnon?

  Stop that.

• 1:41:18Speaker 03

  There is a... There are a few people that you do not want to frustrate, irritate, or annoy. We've already went through the list. Candace Owens, 50 Cent, Coffeezilla, Dave Portnoy,

• 1:41:36Speaker 03

  Donald Trump.

• 1:41:38Speaker 04

  Who?

• 1:41:38Mark Gagnon?

  If you would have just said, "And Dave Portnoy," it would have... It would have rhymed. You would have rapped along with him.

• 1:41:43Speaker 04

  How do... What do you mean?

• 1:41:44Mark Gagnon?

  There are certain people you don't wanna annoy. And then you had Dave Portnoy as your next line. I was excited for you.

• 1:41:50Speaker 04

  I just wish he didn't interrupt with that.

• 1:41:51Mark Gagnon?

  Sorry. But you heard a rap song. You heard a rap song. He was so in the moment. You know what I mean? I love him. You heard a rap song. He was so in the moment.

• 1:42:00Speaker 04

  I know you take that so seriously.

• 1:42:02Mark Gagnon?

  I was excited.

• 1:42:03Speaker 04

  You're making me feel bad.

• 1:42:03Speaker 03

  All right, you only try to get money.

• 1:42:07Speaker 03

  There are certain people you don't wanna annoy.

• 1:42:13Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, sometimes I forget, just pretty just don't talk.

• 1:42:16Speaker 03

  Nah, nah, nah. There are certain people you don't wanna annoy. Fifty Cent, Kamala Harris, Dave Portnoy.

• 1:42:26Mark Gagnon?

  Oh!

• 1:42:30Speaker 03

  The shit!

• 1:42:31Speaker 04

  You got the list wrong though.

• 1:42:32Speaker 03

  Wait, I got, who's I missing? Candace Owens!

• 1:42:37Speaker 03

  Candace, wow! Candace Owens!

• 1:42:39Speaker 04

  Wow!

• 1:42:41Speaker 03

  Leave that!

• 1:42:42Speaker 04

  Candace Owens!

• 1:42:44Speaker 03

  Sorry Candace!

• 1:42:46Mark Gagnon?

  Wait there, how dare you?

• 1:42:47Speaker 03

  Sorry!

• 1:42:48Speaker 04

  Call Candace.

• 1:42:49Speaker 03

  Don't come for us!

• 1:42:51Speaker 04

  And Callie Zilla, we all wanna smoke you.

• 1:42:53Mark Gagnon?

  That is funny.

• 1:42:54Speaker 03

  Come on, bro!

• 1:42:55Mark Gagnon?

  That is funny.

• 1:42:58Mark Gagnon?

  Damn.

• 1:42:59Speaker 03

  Tenno Rumboraya, got your pants on fire. That should, that's a little bit of a hook right there.

• 1:43:06Speaker 04

  You got it.

• 1:43:07Speaker 03

  That's a little bit of a hook right there. Okay. What? What?

• 1:43:16Mark Gagnon?

  What about them is similar at all?

• 1:43:19Speaker 03

  Candace just lost that election, man, she got...

• 1:43:23Mark Gagnon?

  Candace would've won, though, geez.

• 1:43:25Speaker 04

  Alex, stop it.

• 1:43:27Mark Gagnon?

  Be honest.

• 1:43:28Speaker 04

  Alex, stop it, man.

• 1:43:30Speaker 03

  According to Andrew, she just ran.

• 1:43:32Speaker 04

  Stop it.

• 1:43:33Speaker 03

  Candace, Al's avoiding taxes.

• 1:43:37Speaker 04

  Candace, Al's avoiding taxes.

• 1:43:38Speaker 03

  No, I'm paying taxes.

• 1:43:39Speaker 04

  Al's avoiding, please.

• 1:43:41Speaker 03

  Go get him, please! Okay, um... Listen, I think we got some fights we gotta talk about.

• 1:43:47Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, Jake Paul's fighting Kamala Harris.

• 1:44:00Speaker 04

  Oh my god! That's so funny. That's so funny. Oh my god!

• 1:44:09Speaker 04

  Oh dude, that's so funny.

• 1:44:10Speaker 03

  Jake Paul versus Kamala Harris is gonna be a banger, bro.

• 1:44:15Speaker 04

  That's so funny. Now Kamala's fighting on Saturday in the UFC main event.

• 1:44:19Speaker 03

  It is gonna be...

• 1:44:22Speaker 03

  Okay, so Jake Paul versus Kamala, live on Netflix, on Netflix.

• 1:44:33Speaker 03

  What do you guys think? Is Kamal gonna go 0 for 2 in November?

• 1:44:40Speaker 03

  What do you guys think?

• 1:44:42Speaker 04

  You still think Tyson got this?

• 1:44:44Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:44:44Speaker 04

  I do not.

• 1:44:44Mark Gagnon?

  I think Tyson is gonna demolish Tyson looks good in the fucking the cups they put out.

• 1:44:49Mark Gagnon?

  Who'd you think was gonna win the election?

• 1:44:52Speaker 04

  I think Trump.

• 1:44:53Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, that's right. That's right. You did say it. Yeah.

• 1:44:56Speaker 03

  I'm actually, I'm actually curious. I mean.

• 1:45:00Mark Gagnon?

  Tyson is going to murder.

• 1:45:01Speaker 04

  He's 58.

• 1:45:02Speaker 03

  He's 60 years old. I'm doing things at 40 is almost impossible. I don't know how he's gonna do it 60. But there is a different situation where like. This is Jake coming up in weight to fight somebody that's heavier than him. Before this, Jake has always been the heavier opponent. He's always been the bigger opponent and he's been usually the boxer going up against someone who's not a boxer. Now he's going up against someone who is fighting at their natural weight. And has boxed for their entire life. But at the same time, Jake is a hard punching guy.

• 1:45:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm not worried about Tyson throwing punches at 58. I'm worried about first of all endurance, but second of all, taking punches at 58.

• 1:45:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:45:45Speaker 04

  It's a whole different thing.

• 1:45:47Mark Gagnon?

  Tyson is a different animal, guys.

• 1:45:49Speaker 04

  Muhammad Ali was a different animal.

• 1:45:50Speaker 03

  We always.

• 1:45:50Speaker 04

  He came back, got his ass beat.

• 1:45:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:45:53Speaker 04

  Ass whooped by Larry Holmes, I think.

• 1:45:55Speaker 03

  But Larry Holmes is also the best heavyweight in the world at the time. He had been a sparring partner for, you know, years. You know, he didn't get his ass beat by a bum.

• 1:46:03Speaker 04

  No, I agree. But that was also Muhammad Ali at what 40?

• 1:46:07Speaker 03

  Was he that old?

• 1:46:07Speaker 04

  I don't know. But he wasn't 58.

• 1:46:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:46:09Speaker 04

  I'm just saying, whatever age he was, he wasn't 58.

• 1:46:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. Like, Mike's gonna have to get in and he's gonna have to land those shots close. And.

• 1:46:20Speaker 03

  And we're gonna see what happens. I mean.

• 1:46:21Mark Gagnon?

  Mike is going to fuck him up.

• 1:46:24Speaker 03

  Really?

• 1:46:24Speaker 04

  I hope you're right, man. I I am rooting for Mike. I'm a Mike fan. I normally like Jake, but like, obviously, I'm rooting for Tyson. But I just, I'm fearful, man. He's 58. I'm very worried about this.

• 1:46:34Mark Gagnon?

  So all them new muscles on Jake is different. This is grow man strength. He's had this strength forever. And he's back. His endurance is back. This motherfucker looks.

• 1:46:46Speaker 03

  I don't think.

• 1:46:46Mark Gagnon?

  That's a 60 year old man that looks like he's 40.

• 1:46:48Speaker 03

  I mean, with all due respect to Mike, I feel like we keep discrediting Jake every single time.

• 1:46:54Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:54Speaker 03

  And then he keeps doing it and we keep moving the goalpost.

• 1:46:57Mark Gagnon?

  Actually, I gave Jake his props. I think Jake is a good boxer.

• 1:47:00Speaker 03

  He is.

• 1:47:01Mark Gagnon?

  For the amount of time he has been boxing.

• 1:47:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:47:04Mark Gagnon?

  I just think Mike is a different animal.

• 1:47:07Speaker 03

  That's possible, but at the same time.

• 1:47:10Mark Gagnon?

  Like Jake.

• 1:47:11Speaker 03

  Age catches up to all of us. 60 years old is still 60 years old.

• 1:47:15Mark Gagnon?

  Also, I'm curious, has the nature of boxing changed? Like, has the style of boxing, like, is it possible that he,

• 1:47:21Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying.

• 1:47:22Mark Gagnon?

  if he's in a groove where he's like, look, he fights this way, everyone knows what he does, and he's been doing the same thing 30 years? And Jake, despite being more novice, is doing something newer.

• 1:47:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:47:32Mark Gagnon?

  Technically speaking.

• 1:47:33Speaker 03

  This is what I would say.

• 1:47:34Mark Gagnon?

  Jake just has that overhead right.

• 1:47:35Speaker 03

  Jake, Jake's got, he's got power, he's got this great overhand right. What I think that Mike will try to do is smother him. And I don't think Jake will have power in the smother. Like, he needs a little bit more length and distance to get the shots off. But what Jake is good at is catching somebody moving in. So if Mike just moves straight in, Jake can catch you in short distance with that overhand right.

• 1:48:02Mark Gagnon?

  Mike has that.

• 1:48:03Speaker 03

  But if Mike is bobbing and weaving on the way in, that will be more difficult, of course, and I'm sure that he's seen clips of this. He's like, okay, I gotta watch that when I'm walking in, but that's what I'm worried about. Mike's also got a great chin. They call him Iron Mike Tyson for a reason. So I don't think that he's gonna feel power, and this is no insult to Jake's power, but he's not gonna feel power he hasn't felt before. Like, Mike's been in there with much harder hitters than, than Jake, and Jake is a hard hitting guy. You cannot take that away from him. But Mike's been in there with the hardest hitting human beings on the planet. Simple as that. And he stood up against.

• 1:48:36Mark Gagnon?

  Jake has never been in the ring with someone. Somebody with Mike's power.

• 1:48:39Speaker 03

  That I can't say just based on his, based on his spars. I don't know who he's sparring with.

• 1:48:45Mark Gagnon?

  Okay, he hasn't.

• 1:48:47Speaker 03

  He hasn't been in a professional fight with anybody close to his power. That's 100% true. And power is the last thing to go is what I'll say.

• 1:48:53Speaker 04

  Okay, cuz that's my question. Is a 60, dude rooting for him, 60 year old Mike, does he have that kind of power?

• 1:48:59Speaker 03

  Power is the last thing to go. Mike, if you looked at George Foreman, I think George Foreman won the heavyweight title at 50 years old or something like that.

• 1:49:08Speaker 04

  He has like 45 maybe?

• 1:49:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, we should look that up. But, and he was known as the hardest hitting puncher alive. You know, I think when he fought Joe Frazier, he lifted him in the air on an uppercut. So he won the heavyweight championship at 45 years old. So, and I think that's the oldest person that's ever been a heavyweight champion. We're talking about 15 more years or 13 more years after that, Mike Tyson.

• 1:49:34Mark Gagnon?

  Better shape than Frazier was.

• 1:49:37Speaker 03

  Foreman, yeah.

• 1:49:37Mark Gagnon?

  Foreman.

• 1:49:38Speaker 03

  Foreman was, yeah, probably. But Foreman, what he had was the great equalizer, which was power. He could just walk in there, he could take your shots, and then when he landed, you went to sleep.

• 1:49:49Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:49:50Speaker 03

  Mike has always had power, but he's also a volume guy too. He's a guy that's gonna like hit you twice in the body and then the hook comes up top, you know? So I think he needs to soften you up and then put you out. Like if you look at Mike's greatest knockouts, it's like the third punch clips you and then you're fucking done. Whereas Foreman could just stalk, stalk, stalk, boom, one shot sets you down.

• 1:50:13Mark Gagnon?

  That's what I think happens in this fight. I think Mike's gonna get in close. Jake's gonna feel power for the first time and he's not gonna know what to do with that. Because he's overpowered everybody he's been in the ring with and he's not gonna know what to do with that.

• 1:50:27Speaker 03

  So there's a, there's an argument to be made for that with, which is, and this is a fight that Jake won. He fought Anderson Silva. Do you remember when he fought? He was winning that fight against Anderson Silva, but Anderson was smothering him. Do you remember that? And it was hard for Jake to get off. It was hard for Jake to like land shots because Anderson's strategy was kind of get inside. And then Jake caught him and dropped him and Jake won the fight. He definitely deserved to win. But he was able to, Anderson was able to control Jake's effectiveness by being on the inside. He just wasn't able to score on the inside. So the, the question is if Mike is on the inside, Mike can score on the inside. That is Mike's zone.

• 1:51:09Speaker 03

  You know, so I think Anderson was most, I don't even want to know if I would say effective, but like him, look this, like him getting in, like basically being, yeah, he's not throwing any power on it, but he's essentially trying to get close enough where Jake can't load up, you know? That, all those insights, so Mike would do a much better job of, you know, fighting in the phone booth.

• 1:51:31Mark Gagnon?

  Hmm, and generating power.

• 1:51:34Speaker 03

  Yes, but at the same time, you know, Silva is 42 or something like that, Mike is 58 years old. It's, dude, time, time is, you get old, here's the hardest thing about being old, it's not, it's not just the training, it's that, I'm 40 years old, I go play paddle, I'm fucking sore for two days. So, the recovery period, in order to train effectively at 60, is really tough.

• 1:52:03Mark Gagnon?

  Are they testing for this? I can't.

• 1:52:06Speaker 03

  I hope not.

• 1:52:07Mark Gagnon?

  I can't fathom.

• 1:52:08Mark Gagnon?

  No, because neither one will.

• 1:52:09Speaker 03

  I can't fathom.

• 1:52:10Mark Gagnon?

  Let's be real.

• 1:52:11Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Because that would fix your recovery thing, even if you're not necessarily doing it for size, but just doing specific enhancements.

• 1:52:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, or just inflammation.

• 1:52:21Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:22Speaker 03

  It's just.

• 1:52:23Mark Gagnon?

  What did your friend call it, like the, the advanced training system or something?

• 1:52:27Speaker 03

  Oh, the, uh, initiate a vitamin protocol.

• 1:52:29Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, the vitamin protocol.

• 1:52:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:52:32Mark Gagnon?

  Did you ever do the stem cells for your back?

• 1:52:34Speaker 03

  No, no, no. I might want to do something for like shoulder, but I don't know if it will work.

• 1:52:39Speaker 04

  Just wait, are you gonna get all that shit?

• 1:52:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, I think, I think stem cells work for a specific thing, right? I think it's like, if there's damage to an area, it can rebuild certain things, but like stem cells, for example, I don't think they'll like, they won't just fix your Achilles if it's torn.

• 1:52:57Mark Gagnon?

  No, but I mean, isn't yours just like?

• 1:53:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, so it might be, it might be a good candidate for it, I just need to look and see if it is, essentially, I don't, I don't know enough to know what it fixes.

• 1:53:09Mark Gagnon?

  Hmm.

• 1:53:10Speaker 03

  If it's just simply like recovery from wear and tear, maybe it does it, and that'd be great.

• 1:53:15Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, hell yeah. We go to war with the cartel, you can't go to Tijuana and get that shit.

• 1:53:18Mark Gagnon?

  I go to Columbia.

• 1:53:19Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, they siding with.

• 1:53:21Mark Gagnon?

  Cartels.

• 1:53:23Speaker 03

  They can't wait for Mexico shit to be done and they're back on top.

• 1:53:26Mark Gagnon?

  What happened to El Salvador? They threw everyone in prison?

• 1:53:29Speaker 03

  And it works.

• 1:53:30Mark Gagnon?

  It's lit like.

• 1:53:31Speaker 03

  It's lit. Turns out if you punish criminals, it makes life better. There's another thing, Democrats.

• 1:53:39Mark Gagnon?

  Break that down.

• 1:53:41Speaker 03

  So this El Salvadorian president decided to bukele or whatever like that. Basically, anybody who's gang related or in a gang just overnight started setting them to jail. And El Salvador, I think, went from the most dangerous country in the world to the safest and.

• 1:53:58Mark Gagnon?

  Also, even if you didn't commit a crime just by being in the gang.

• 1:54:01Speaker 03

  Basically, all some Rico shit.

• 1:54:02Mark Gagnon?

  Oh.

• 1:54:03Speaker 03

  Now, I don't know.

• 1:54:04Mark Gagnon?

  Eighty three thousand people.

• 1:54:05Speaker 03

  There they put eighty three thousand. This is a small country.

• 1:54:07Mark Gagnon?

  As of November fifth, twenty twenty.

• 1:54:09Speaker 03

  And they have these massive containment centers, but they just started locking them up. And literally overnight, the, the, the country changed. And now it's the safest country.

• 1:54:20Mark Gagnon?

  Say again? No one left on the street to commit a crime.

• 1:54:22Speaker 03

  There it is. So, but they also decided to like make Bitcoin legal currency. And now Bitcoins are fucking eighty five. Like they, he's done of some very like ambitious changes. And it's.

• 1:54:34Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yeah. I saw people posting about that football player that took Cafiz.

• 1:54:39Speaker 03

  Oh, now he's looking good.

• 1:54:40Mark Gagnon?

  I forgot his name. Do you know the football player?

• 1:54:43Speaker 03

  From San Francisco Forty Niners, right?

• 1:54:44Mark Gagnon?

  Bro, you saw the House Hunters episode go viral?

• 1:54:46Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. Well, he wanted to pay with fifty thousand Bitcoin or something like that.

• 1:54:50Mark Gagnon?

  And it would have been worth like three point two billion today or some shit.

• 1:54:52Speaker 03

  Yeah. But that's, the tricky thing with that is always like, you would have sold.

• 1:54:59Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:54:59Speaker 03

  Like, that's how I sleep at night. You know, the people were like, I had ten thousand Bitcoin at one point in time, but I sold it for, you know, a ten thousand dollars. It's like, yeah, you, you would have sold it when it was worth a hundred thousand or a million. Like, you were up so much.

• 1:55:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:15Speaker 03

  It's the people that just hold on to their Bitcoin for, you know, forty, well, twenty years, however long it's been around. Forgot about it.

• 1:55:24Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:24Speaker 03

  Or something like, it's just an impossible outcome.

• 1:55:27Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:29Speaker 03

  And there's a certain point where greed takes over and you're like, let me not let this go back down. I could buy a house.

• 1:55:34Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:34Speaker 03

  You just.

• 1:55:35Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Yeah, it seems crazy. You just throw those all these people in prison and it's fine?

• 1:55:41Speaker 03

  Yep. No, no, it's not fine. It's way better. It's so much better. It's like the best place to live and everybody's life has changed and.

• 1:55:50Mark Gagnon?

  And you slowly let people out.

• 1:55:51Speaker 03

  I don't know. I thought that's the other thing. I don't know if like you go to jail for life. You might go to jail for life. I don't know.

• 1:55:58Speaker 04

  That's good.

• 1:55:58Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that's crazy.

• 1:55:59Speaker 03

  If it's life, life. I think that's fire.

• 1:56:02Mark Gagnon?

  Just for being like, you know, a guy like your cousin was in a cartel?

• 1:56:05Speaker 03

  They'd be like that sometimes. It'd be like that sometimes. I bet you I bet you stop associating with your cousin once you figure that shit out. I bet you stop going, yo, stop calling me.

• 1:56:15Mark Gagnon?

  Do they backdate that shit? What if you used to be affiliated and now you're not?

• 1:56:18Speaker 03

  Run it up. I don't know what the deal is. Obviously it infringes on certain freedoms that exist in America that that do not exist in El Salvador.

• 1:56:25Mark Gagnon?

  No, they exist there. He's running under an emergency. Like he's running under almost like martial law.

• 1:56:30Speaker 03

  Ah, so they've removed habeas corpus is what we would call it in America?

• 1:56:34Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I'm sure they don't have the exact same ones here, but he is running under sort of like an emergency administration.

• 1:56:39Speaker 03

  But he is by far the most popular political candidate in the world right now.

• 1:56:43Mark Gagnon?

  There's a great article in Times that's about him and he calls himself the world's coolest dictator. And a philosopher king. Those are his little titles.

• 1:56:51Mark Gagnon?

  That is the problem, bro. I think the best government is like a really good monarch.

• 1:56:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, benevolent dictator.

• 1:56:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, you just can't.

• 1:56:56Speaker 03

  You can't just trust benevolence.

• 1:56:58Speaker 04

  But whenever he's gone, who's next? That guy's gonna be a fucking idiot probably. That's the problem.

• 1:57:02Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:03Speaker 03

  That's why you have to let the people decide just because you're only gonna get lucky once in like, eh, fucking 400 years that you'll get a smart enough guy that's not too much of a narcissist that's gonna destroy your country. Like it's just. It's a pure luck.

• 1:57:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:57:18Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:19Speaker 03

  Or you gotta like. America's about 400 years old. Now we got Trump, so that's perfect.

• 1:57:25Speaker 03

  Right there.

• 1:57:25Mark Gagnon?

  Tito.

• 1:57:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:57:27Speaker 04

  Oh, John Jones fighting this this weekend.

• 1:57:29Speaker 03

  Oh, um.

• 1:57:31Speaker 04

  I'm gonna be in England.

• 1:57:32Speaker 03

  Oh, really? No, I'm giving a speech at Oxford. Nice.

• 1:57:35Speaker 04

  Yeah. What the fuck are they doing?

• 1:57:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:57:38Speaker 04

  I have no idea. The Oxford Union.

• 1:57:40Mark Gagnon?

  Very parents.

• 1:57:41Speaker 04

  My mom was giddy. Giddy, she couldn't, but then she started laughing.

• 1:57:46Speaker 03

  No offense, but why?

• 1:57:47Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 1:57:48Speaker 03

  This is.

• 1:57:49Speaker 04

  I had none taken. I have no idea.

• 1:57:51Speaker 03

  That's fire. They're they're very, uh, they're very curious about like, uh, cancel cancel culture, freedom of speech, and these types of things. I imagine that's what.

• 1:58:04Speaker 04

  Maybe. They've given me no parameters, but yeah, I saw some of their speeches as people just yelling at them about being woke or whatever. It seems a little annoying.

• 1:58:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:58:11Mark Gagnon?

  Don't go up and do a set, man.

• 1:58:13Speaker 04

  God damn. They asked if I wanted to do stand up. I was like, I need your fucking mind. I don't like doing stand up for college kids when they know it's stand up. I mean, no.

• 1:58:22Speaker 03

  But that's good. Have a discussion with them, you know, be able to support and back things up and. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, it's very. Really fucking awesome.

• 1:58:29Mark Gagnon?

  What are you gonna wear?

• 1:58:30Speaker 04

  Wow. I don't know, hoodie.

• 1:58:32Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:58:34Speaker 03

  Please.

• 1:58:34Mark Gagnon?

  Wear full Harry Potter.

• 1:58:35Speaker 04

  Like a free.

• 1:58:36Mark Gagnon?

  Go full Harry Potter, bro. Robe, tie.

• 1:58:38Speaker 04

  Somebody sent to me for free, probably.

• 1:58:41Speaker 03

  Now, you go full suited up?

• 1:58:43Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, I don't do that shit.

• 1:58:44Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:58:45Mark Gagnon?

  You gotta go turtleneck.

• 1:58:46Speaker 03

  You something.

• 1:58:46Mark Gagnon?

  Turtleneck with the suit.

• 1:58:47Speaker 03

  You represent us, bro. You gotta look good.

• 1:58:51Speaker 04

  I don't represent y'all.

• 1:58:52Speaker 03

  A little bit.

• 1:58:53Speaker 04

  Like the fourth people I represent.

• 1:58:55Speaker 03

  So you know how many people are gonna send us that video if you bomb? You go out there, but we're gonna get the same way how you knew I was in a psych shock. I'm gonna be bombed immediately.

• 1:59:07Speaker 04

  Text messages.

• 1:59:07Speaker 03

  Yes, but at least look good.

• 1:59:09Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:10Speaker 03

  It's a, uh, but it's this, it would it function like a TED Talk where they'll put it out there online afterwards? That's cool.

• 1:59:18Speaker 04

  Yeah. And there's no real parameters. They were like, just keep in mind that these do do go out. So.

• 1:59:23Mark Gagnon?

  You can use your favorite word, though.

• 1:59:25Speaker 04

  Bitch?

• 1:59:25Mark Gagnon?

  Nope, the other one. They they use it over there and it's fine.

• 1:59:28Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:59:30Mark Gagnon?

  So you let it fly.

• 1:59:31Speaker 04

  That is not, that is my favorite word.

• 1:59:35Speaker 04

  It's the best word. It's the best word.

• 1:59:37Mark Gagnon?

  Is that a word?

• 1:59:38Speaker 04

  I understand how white people felt when the N word got taken from them.

• 1:59:40Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:59:41Speaker 04

  Like emotionally, I get it.

• 1:59:42Mark Gagnon?

  You're at a spelling bee, final word, it comes across, you're like, oh, my God, I know this one. Language of origin, got it.

• 1:59:51Speaker 03

  Okay, wait, how did we get to this? You're going to-

• 1:59:53Speaker 04

  Uh, John Jones fight.

• 1:59:54Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. Um, yeah, I think John Jones gets it done. And I, and I think, uh, I think Stipe's might have like moments where he makes it interesting. I think John's gonna have to respect Stipe's striking.

• 2:00:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:00:06Speaker 03

  And, uh, I mean, Stipe went in there with Daniel Cormier. And Daniel Cormier is, you know, amazing legendary wrestler. And Stipe was able to find a way to keep it on the feet and, you know, eventually get a victory over Daniel. So I, I, uh, yeah, I think that he's gonna, John's gonna have to respect Stipe. I don't think it's gonna be as easy as that Cyril Gahn fight where John just like walks straight through him.

• 2:00:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:00:33Speaker 03

  But I think it's hard for you to bet against John Jones. I mean, it's fucking John Jones.

• 2:00:37Speaker 04

  You hear him say that if, if he wins this, he wants to fight, uh, not Aspinall next. He wants to fight, uh-

• 2:00:43Speaker 03

  Oh, it's Benet.

• 2:00:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:00:45Speaker 03

  Well, that'd be so awesome. That'd be so awesome.

• 2:00:49Speaker 04

  You think he's ducking Aspinall or you think that's actually the more fun fight?

• 2:00:51Speaker 03

  John Jones doesn't duck it. I, I, I respect what Aspinall is doing in terms of he's trying to build the fight. So he's just saying anything he could say to get people interested. But like, John Jones is not afraid of anybody. There's nobody on the planet John Jones is afraid of. So the idea that like all of a sudden he's afraid of Aspinall is just absurd. Now, Aspinall's gotta say something to get excitement for the fight. But we're talking about John Jones here. It's like saying like Tom Brady's afraid of a defense. It's like, there's no defense Tom Brady's afraid of. Tom Brady's the best quarterback that's ever lived.

• 2:01:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:01:26Speaker 03

  He's, he can't wait. He's salient, he's chomping at the bit to go attack your fucking defense. So, and the proof is that he's got seven championships. The proof is that John Jones has been fighting fucking title fights for the last 17 years or whatever. He's like, he's just an absurdly talented human being. So, yeah, he's not afraid, but, you know, it-

• 2:01:46Speaker 04

  What a crazy thing to say, I could beat up any human being on earth.

• 2:01:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:01:49Speaker 04

  What a crazy fucking thought to walk around with.

• 2:01:51Speaker 03

  You literally say it every day.

• 2:01:56Speaker 03

  The fight, the interest, a really interesting fight is Pereira for sure. And then, uh...

• 2:02:05Speaker 04

  Why is that fight interesting? I'm actually curious, because to me, it's like, well, Jon Jones is so much bigger now that Pereira's power's not gonna matter.

• 2:02:12Speaker 03

  I think they're about the same size. And also Pereira's power matters no matter what weight he's in. He just knocks people the fuck out. So it's like, I just think that Pereira's this incredibly dominant force. You've seen in the UFC is by far like the biggest draw right now in the UFC.

• 2:02:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:02:27Speaker 03

  And, uh...

• 2:02:28Mark Gagnon?

  You think he's good enough to take on like a heavyweight and the power not?

• 2:02:33Speaker 04

  And the power still be effective? Pereira, yeah.

• 2:02:35Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, wow.

• 2:02:37Speaker 03

  You also have to understand, like, when the gloves are four ounces,

• 2:02:42Speaker 03

  and you can punch, like...

• 2:02:44Speaker 04

  You're still gonna feel it no matter what weight you're on.

• 2:02:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're going down, like, and after a certain weight, you're going down.

• 2:02:48Mark Gagnon?

  Gotcha.

• 2:02:49Speaker 03

  Like, maybe if a guy 125, 135 hits you, 145 hits you, maybe you're not going down. If you're a big dude. But a guy who walks around at 200-plus pounds like Pereira, probably 225, he walks around. He loses weight to get down when he was fighting a middleweight at 185, or when he's fighting at 205, or whatever it is. He has to, like, drain. On Fight Night, he's 225. So like...

• 2:03:11Mark Gagnon?

  So he is heavy, basically, yeah.

• 2:03:13Speaker 04

  He's 6'4".

• 2:03:14Speaker 03

  He's 6'4", which is, and he's taller than that. You know what I mean? Like, these guys, he's, yeah. I actually think that Jon Jones will be the smaller man that night in the ring.

• 2:03:25Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 2:03:26Speaker 03

  Because Jon has put on all this weight. Alex's body hasn't changed at all. You know, like, if you look at his frame, he's just depleting with water. Now he's just added more muscle, which is muscle that really wants to be there.

• 2:03:37Speaker 04

  We haven't seen anybody be able to wrestle Pereira, like, they...

• 2:03:40Speaker 03

  That's the thing. So Jon is, Jon is going, but Jon, also when I spoke to him at the Sphere, we were sitting next to each other at the Sphere, pretty much. It was, his brothers were there as well, but, and one of the things that he said that he likes to do is he likes to specifically go... At a person with their strength. So like if you are known for striking, he wants to outstrike you because of the mind game that that puts you in. It's like if I beat you with the thing, you thought you were better than me. You've checked out of this fight. It's over for you now. You're in deep water. You know, you can't do the other things better than me.

• 2:04:14Speaker 04

  Fucking confidence that takes.

• 2:04:15Speaker 03

  Oh, and yeah, it's also just strategy.

• 2:04:17Speaker 04

  A strategy, but again, you gotta be effective enough to pull it off.

• 2:04:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:04:21Speaker 04

  Let's go against the best striker and outstrike him and then just break him. It's that fucking Drago shit and Rocky IV. I want to break him.

• 2:04:28Speaker 03

  Break him.

• 2:04:29Speaker 04

  Yeah. So that's crazy.

• 2:04:30Speaker 03

  You know, I think it'd be just an unbelievable, like that is the biggest spectacle in fighting. You know, another big fight I think would be awesome would be like Dricus Duplessis, the guy who'd be Izzy versus

• 2:04:45Speaker 03

  Hamzat Chamayev. So this guy Hamzat Chamayev just beat Robert Whitaker.

• 2:04:50Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that'd be good.

• 2:04:52Speaker 03

  Now, the fight, if we're going by like who deserves to be next, Sean Strickland deserves a rematch based on what's on paper. But this isn't the Olympics. Like this isn't like the amateurs. It's like who the next person that gets a fight is the person who makes it the most exciting version of it. We've seen the Sean Strickland-Dricus fight. It was all right. It's cool. Like excitement wise, it's not like you gotta respect the guys going in there, but I don't think anybody with eyeballs that watches fighting looked at that fight and goes, whoa, this is as exciting as watching Alex Perera knock somebody the fuck out. There's no, he's like, okay, they're point fighting and they showed a lot of heart and it was all, but it's different when you go see somebody, you know, take someone's head off.

• 2:05:33Speaker 03

  And or when you see you got like Hamzat literally 10 seconds shoot on what's his face? And choke him to the point where like his lower teeth pushed in and he had to tap out out of pain. Oh, wow. Yeah. So seeing those two guys go at it, I think is the more exciting thing. And this is the game of prize fighting. So if the prize looks bigger, that's welcome to America. Welcome to capitalism. Like if you don't support that, you just don't support capitalism, plain and simple. So you just don't understand how business works. So if you're a businessman, if you're a capitalist, if you understand the American way, you probably want to see Dricus fight Hamzat.

• 2:06:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:06:14Speaker 03

  You know, if you want what is fair and what has earned, you see Dricus fight Strickland. If you're more of a communist. Or a socialist. If you're more of a socialist and you believe in like equal outcomes and like what is, you know, what is fair and whatever, that's fine. But if you're a capitalist and you're an American, then you, you would obviously.

• 2:06:37Mark Gagnon?

  I kind of fine with both, I'll be honest.

• 2:06:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:06:39Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, what does that mean?

• 2:06:40Speaker 03

  Nah, I want the better fight. Yeah, you're a communist.

• 2:06:43Mark Gagnon?

  Right? Is that what I am?

• 2:06:46Mark Gagnon?

  It would be nice that, you know, you're rewarded for your work.

• 2:06:48Speaker 03

  You're a socialist Democrat, that's for sure.

• 2:06:52Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, you're a born here, you're a born here. Not feminist and racist?

• 2:06:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're a feminist, dude. That's what you're, you want D I, you want diversity, equity, inclusion.

• 2:07:01Mark Gagnon?

  In the UFC, I think that'd be nice.

• 2:07:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. You want the less exciting fight that's gonna make less money for the company and go against capitalist values, just because that person worked really hard and put himself on the line and risk it, and he deserves it.

• 2:07:12Mark Gagnon?

  That's the opposite of D I. You want D I.

• 2:07:14Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:07:15Mark Gagnon?

  I want, I want everyone that works hard to get their fair, their fair fight. I'm kind of on board.

• 2:07:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, that's, that's what, that's what a communist would say.

• 2:07:22Mark Gagnon?

  You, you get rewarded for your work. He tries his best, he got the fight he deserves.

• 2:07:26Speaker 03

  I want the most, I want, I want the best product for the fans.

• 2:07:29Speaker 04

  Oh, you did that.

• 2:07:31Speaker 03

  I want the best product for the consumer.

• 2:07:32Speaker 04

  You got it.

• 2:07:33Speaker 03

  I want you to call a capitalist, I want the best product for the consumer, and the consumer always wins.

• 2:07:36Speaker 04

  He's a man of the people.

• 2:07:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm the man of the people in that regard. But I hear what you, you, the people should sacrifice so you get what you want.

• 2:07:42Mark Gagnon?

  You want WWE, you want WWE.

• 2:07:43Speaker 03

  That's, that's what, that's what you get.

• 2:07:45Mark Gagnon?

  You want like a fake, like, you want a theater.

• 2:07:46Speaker 04

  Just the most entertaining product.

• 2:07:47Speaker 03

  I totally understand what you're saying. We should sacrifice what the public wants, we should, just so you can have your little fantasy. That makes sense.

• 2:07:56Speaker 03

  Castro felt the same way, and I think that it's a really good, I think he probably had some good ideas, 100%.

• 2:08:01Mark Gagnon?

  Winner dies last, bro. Castro's still alive.

• 2:08:03Speaker 03

  Still kicking, you know what I'm saying?

• 2:08:04Speaker 04

  Castro's dead.

• 2:08:05Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, he died, bitch, right?

• 2:08:08Mark Gagnon?

  Trudeau, right? He's Trudeau, he's Trudeau.

• 2:08:11Speaker 03

  Now, I also say this as a Floyd Mayweather fan that watched very unentertaining fights for some people, for decades.

• 2:08:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:08:21Speaker 03

  Because they didn't appreciate, you know, they wanted a fucking knockout, which they should. I'm a super fan of boxing, so I liked watching this guy who was just the best at what he did.

• 2:08:29Mark Gagnon?

  This is how you learn the lesson, that you don't want to see the fair fight.

• 2:08:33Speaker 03

  Now it seems like you're on my, you're on my side. No, it is, it is an unfortunate thing because I imagine if you're like in MMA fight, you're up and coming MMA fighter, you're like, okay, I could play this safer and be undefeated, but I might never get that title shot.

• 2:08:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:47Speaker 03

  The guys who are getting knocked out might get the title shot before me because people are going to pay to see them. And at the end of the day, it's like, that's the tricky thing about being in the UFC. It's like, you want to go, hey, this is a fair system where if somebody earns a title shot, they get it.

• 2:09:02Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:09:02Speaker 03

  But you also want to communicate to the fighters, the way you earn it.

• 2:09:05Mark Gagnon?

  Excite the fans.

• 2:09:05Speaker 03

  Is by exciting the fuck out of the fans.

• 2:09:08Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:09:08Speaker 03

  You don't earn it by playing it safe and then getting it.

• 2:09:12Speaker 04

  And to your point, Floyd had to put on this bad guy persona so he could sell tickets because you want to see him lose. Cause his fight style is kind of boring to watch if you're a casual. Not kind of, if you're a casual, it's very boring.

• 2:09:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:09:23Speaker 04

  So how do I get them to be interested because I still need to sell tickets? I gotta play the bad guy. UFC doesn't seem like those guys are as inclined to do that. So make the fight exciting. And I think, again, as a casual, Khabib, when he wrestled, I was like, this is exciting. It was just so relentless.

• 2:09:36Speaker 03

  Well, there are some people that are so relentless that you're like, I gotta watch.

• 2:09:39Mark Gagnon?

  The fighter of the night shit helps it. Like you see a Max Holloway, be like, yo, like, yo, I'll watch that guy fight him.

• 2:09:44Speaker 03

  Anytime.

• 2:09:45Mark Gagnon?

  I don't care what happens.

• 2:09:46Speaker 03

  Anytime. Yeah. So, yeah, I think that's, and that's just the nature of the game. We've got to respect it if we love America.

• 2:09:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's true. Oh, also, if you love America and you want to bet on the US's largest social, what is that you call it?

• 2:09:58Speaker 03

  Social casino.

• 2:09:59Speaker 04

  Social casino.

• 2:09:59Speaker 03

  And get a gift basket.

• 2:10:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:10:01Mark Gagnon?

  What is in this gift basket?

• 2:10:03Speaker 04

  Steak dude, that's for, for you to find out.

• 2:10:05Mark Gagnon?

  What's in it, bro?

• 2:10:06Speaker 04

  Steak, dog.

• 2:10:06Mark Gagnon?

  It's in the gift basket.

• 2:10:09Speaker 04

  No, no, steak's gonna do a gift basket too.

• 2:10:10Speaker 03

  We need steak to do a gift basket.

• 2:10:12Speaker 04

  We need them to, we're gonna ask them to.

• 2:10:13Speaker 03

  The thing that's amazing about the Flagrant Podcast is anytime we got a sponsor or supporter, they gotta come through with a gift basket.

• 2:10:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, this is a new mandate.

• 2:10:20Speaker 03

  This is a new mandate. So we haven't figured out what the gift basket is, but in Trump's America, all sponsors of Flagrant Podcasts gotta come through with a gift basket. But steak has got your back, man. So if you betting on anything, you go with steak and make sure you use the code FLAGRANT when you do that shit, okay? Little charcuterie. Mark's looking up some nice little gift baskets. We don't know if it's gonna have fruits and vegetables.

• 2:10:44Speaker 03

  Premium grade fruit and gourmet chocolates.

• 2:10:47Speaker 04

  Derek Jeter's girls got a gift basket.

• 2:10:49Speaker 03

  Thanks.

• 2:10:50Speaker 04

  Beautiful thing was a blessing.

• 2:10:51Speaker 03

  God bless. He was so classy, man.

• 2:10:52Speaker 04

  Classy.

• 2:10:53Speaker 03

  He really was.

• 2:10:53Speaker 04

  Pure class. Gift baskets are class.

• 2:10:55Speaker 03

  We need Derek on a pod.

• 2:10:56Speaker 04

  Yo, need that.

• 2:10:57Speaker 03

  Anyway, listen, we appreciate y'all. We love y'all. We'll see you next week. Peace.

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