Million Dollar Scam Only Black Dudes Can Do

YERRRR Daejon Love told women he played receiver for the 49ers. For FOUR YEARS. Nobody checked the roster. His "game film" was a screen recording off a TV. 26 women. $1.3 million. A fake Swiss fortune and an 18-year-old "investment adviser" telling them to take out loans. The boys break down how he kept it alive that long, whether the women were dumb or the con was just that good, and why this scam has a very specific casting requirement. Disclaimer: audio gets a little rough at the end 0:00 Women are DUMB? Black privilege 4:24 Even exchange of usury + Asian boytoy 9:08 Investing is for men, cosmetics for women + BBWs 13:08 Pheramonemaxxing 15:59 Mark’s sisters + Andrew’s an anchor baby 19:30 Swiss migrant + Lady figuring it out 22:03 Euros girls believe anything 21:00 Not all lies are equal + Swiss Chocolate 29:34 Ugly AND Broke? 31:25 Gold diggers + Faking interest 33:32 Feet rub + Investigative journalism 37:14 Did Daejon smash? His family wealth 40:34 One of the scammed, AI + CTE chances 47:19 Moral quandries + Judge Caprio 51:05 Butt sniffer is wrong? 53:48 Trying on underwear? 55:32 We’re all starlight 1:00:20 Can you fight children? 1:04:17 Black privilege + it’s CUTE 1:09:00 Dog racism, Learned behavior 1:18:11 Taking money from wallet + Tipping 1:26:19 Losing AirPods dilemma 1:32:07 Ghost pepper work lunch 1:39:13 Lying to dying person + Restaurant shots 1:44:29 Tailgate etiquette 1:48:30 Return money + Alexx = capitalist 1:55:45 Religious firings + Vat vas dat sound? 2:10:17 New Testament is SHORT 2:11:11 Shiloh starting pre-school This episode is sponsored by Kalshi. This episode is sponsored by Sesh. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  Hello, what's up everybody and welcome to Flag with your boy Schultz. I'm here at Alex Media, Marky Geix, we got Miles Media over there. And I think we gotta start out by talking about just how truly stupid women in America are. I didn't think it was possible.

• 0:14Mark Gagnon?

  Oh man.

• 0:14Speaker 00

  I didn't think it was possible after seeing the reaction to Lindsay Clancy. I was like, there's no way that there are women more stupid than these women defending Lindsay Clancy.

• 0:23Mark Gagnon?

  This is a bad take.

• 0:26Speaker 00

  And then we found out that they get dumber.

• 0:28Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 0:29Speaker 00

  They actually get dumber and more racist. Women in this country, man.

• 0:33Speaker 02

  Okay, the racist part maybe.

• 0:34Speaker 00

  Racism.

• 0:35Mark Gagnon?

  Now I'm on board.

• 0:36Speaker 00

  Racism, sexism, it's crazy.

• 0:39Mark Gagnon?

  Racism is dumb.

• 0:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 0:43Speaker 00

  There you go.

• 0:43Speaker 02

  Wait a minute. It's either really dumb or.

• 0:46Speaker 00

  You're right, and you live. You're right, and you get to make it another day.

• 0:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 0:51Speaker 00

  Yes, shout out that Patrice joke. I'd rather be at home, safe, feeling a little racist than lying and puddle my own blood.

• 0:59Speaker 02

  But it's bifurcated, I agree.

• 1:00Speaker 00

  Okay, so listen, there's a guy named, this story is absolutely amazing. Dejean Love is his fake name?

• 1:05Speaker 02

  I think it's his real name.

• 1:06Speaker 00

  Who knows? Anyway, a guy pretended to play for the 49ers, scammed a bunch of women out of over a million bucks.

• 1:12Speaker 02

  Yep, 26 women.

• 1:14Speaker 00

  26 women.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  1.3 million dollars.

• 1:15Speaker 00

  1.3 mil. That we know about.

• 1:17Mark Gagnon?

  Can we just give it up for him one time?

• 1:19Speaker 00

  Listen.

• 1:19Mark Gagnon?

  Like, come on, like, how incredible of a movement.

• 1:22Speaker 00

  Can I tell you, can I tell you something?

• 1:24Mark Gagnon?

  Just one time?

• 1:24Speaker 00

  I'm against this. I'm against it. Yes, I'm against this. But just for the greed part.

• 1:32Mark Gagnon?

  Okay, wait a minute.

• 1:33Speaker 00

  Because he, how many friends did you have that like pretended to be NFL players to get pussy?

• 1:39Mark Gagnon?

  I had one, maybe, one in a possible.

• 1:42Speaker 02

  You guys knew people that did this?

• 1:43Speaker 00

  You didn't know black people. So like, basically, so basically, when you're, this is, this is black privilege, we talked about this, right? One black privilege in America, and I'm not saying it's worth it, because there's a lot of things that are not privileged. Whatever the opposite of privilege, disadvantage.

• 1:58Speaker 02

  Disadvantage.

• 1:58Speaker 00

  There's black disadvantage, obviously harassed by the police, you get followed around stores. All the girls think your dick is way bigger than it is.

• 2:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's a bunch of unfair stuff.

• 2:05Speaker 00

  They're so disappointed when they see your actual dick size, because it's a myth that you guys have to dick. So that's a huge disadvantage. So those are the black disadvantages, and we acknowledge those as we move on in this conversation. The black privilege is, here's white privilege, right? I can walk into a store, I can take an item, and I can pretty much walk out of the store.

• 2:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:24Speaker 00

  And nobody, and they might look at me like, oh, did you pay for that? And if I just go, yeah.

• 2:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:29Speaker 00

  They go, okay.

• 2:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:31Speaker 00

  That's white privilege in America.

• 2:33Speaker 02

  Great.

• 2:33Speaker 00

  Black privilege is, you can say that you are on a sports team.

• 2:38Speaker 02

  An elite sports.

• 2:39Speaker 00

  An elite sports team, and women are dumb enough to believe it. That is black privilege. And the reason it's black privilege, and we know it's black privilege, is because white players on the teams

• 2:54Speaker 00

  don't even get believed that they're on the team.

• 2:55Speaker 02

  That is, that's true.

• 2:57Speaker 00

  Tyler Colick, New York Knick, almost got arrested at the parade.

• 3:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:01Speaker 00

  The police, and these are nicknames.

• 3:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:03Speaker 00

  The police in the city, the security stopped Austin Reeves.

• 3:06Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 3:07Speaker 00

  And Austin Reeves is not like a 6'2" guard. Austin Reeves is 6'8", so even if you are as tall as a basketball player needs to be, simply having white skin and a comb over.

• 3:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:17Speaker 00

  Will stop you from, stop you from believing you're on a team. There was an even exchange, right? Guys would lie about being football players. And then girls would lie about being interested in guys to get their money.

• 3:32Speaker 02

  Right.

• 3:32Speaker 00

  So it allowed an even exchange of usury. Right? The girls would use the alleged football player for their money and pretend to be into them. And the guys would pretend to be a football player and then use the girls for their looks.

• 3:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:45Speaker 00

  And it was, nobody was taking advantage of either person, because they were both lying.

• 3:48Speaker 02

  This is how it used to go.

• 3:49Speaker 00

  This is, this is a perfect unity. And if you had friends that were black and over 6'2" and had muscles, every single time they went out, they played for the Dallas Cowboys. Or whatever team they knew women didn't know. And nobody knows football players.

• 4:01Speaker 02

  But that's a one-time thing, though.

• 4:03Speaker 00

  It's not a one-time thing, because I almost got caught by it. I saw, I told you this story, I saw Darrel Rivas parking his fucking car on Lafayette Street between 4th and Astor Place.

• 4:12Mark Gagnon?

  And then you almost busted over?

• 4:13Speaker 00

  You know, it was, it was Darrel Rivas, and he was in, he was a cornerback for the New York Jets.

• 4:18Mark Gagnon?

  He's leaning it up.

• 4:19Speaker 00

  He was in a Darrel Rivas shirt.

• 4:23Speaker 00

  And I was like, I know that's Darrel Rivas, but I'm not gonna be the white guy that walks up to the black guy and go, are you Darrel Rivas? And he's like, just because I'm wearing a fucking Darrel Rivas shirt, you think that I'm that guy?

• 4:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's also tough. And also, I wouldn't expect him to be wearing his own merch, you know what I mean?

• 4:36Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 4:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:38Speaker 00

  But it was him.

• 4:38Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 4:39Speaker 00

  1,000% it was him.

• 4:40Speaker 02

  You wear Kent merch? That's a good point. That is a great point.

• 4:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 4:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:45Speaker 02

  But I get, with your name on the back, you know?

• 4:47Speaker 00

  Well, maybe it's during the season, you're coming right from practice, and they give you the shit to practice in.

• 4:51Speaker 02

  And then you gotta go to the beach, you gotta run a route, you know what I mean? You gotta film it. You gotta have your helmet with you to get your braids done.

• 4:56Speaker 00

  Yes, exactly. Anyway, so I think this guy fucked up a very even exchange that women had. And men had.

• 5:03Mark Gagnon?

  But.

• 5:03Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 5:04Mark Gagnon?

  He didn't get 1. whatever million from one chick. He just got little amounts from multiple.

• 5:09Speaker 00

  This is the other thing that has been driving me crazy about this. It's like, investing in, in stocks or businesses, what he was doing is basically saying, hey, give me some money. I know this investment, 7 to 10 days, it's gonna double. You guys, you know, give me this money, I'm gonna put it in. He was lying to them. Another thing about the girls is, that's very interesting about these women that are dumb and racist, is that he knew that they wouldn't believe the investment advice from a black guy, so he brought an 18-year-old Asian boy.

• 5:35Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 5:35Speaker 00

  They would.

• 5:36Mark Gagnon?

  Genius.

• 5:37Speaker 00

  They would believe, but think about how racist and sexist these women are.

• 5:41Speaker 02

  They invented rush hour.

• 5:42Speaker 00

  He invented rush hour, it worked. But like, think about it, they would rather, right? They would, they would, they believed the black guy's on a sports team, and then they're also like, well, I'm not gonna trust him with money. And then he brings a little Asian boy toy BTS member over, and he's 18 years old, and they're like, well, I'll trust the Asian guy with math.

• 6:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:02Speaker 00

  And they would give them the money.

• 6:03Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 6:03Speaker 00

  Right?

• 6:04Speaker 02

  It's the ultimate scam.

• 6:06Mark Gagnon?

  Come on, that's why you gotta give it up, Tom.

• 6:08Speaker 02

  It is such a funny move.

• 6:10Speaker 00

  But here's the reason why, I mean, maybe you give it up to the guys, but for the women,

• 6:15Speaker 00

  this is the issue with me that I have. Investing in like stocks and like businesses, that's for guys. There's no reason a woman should invest in stocks or businesses. Like, anytime I hear a woman saying like, oh, first of all, have you ever heard a woman like, oh, in the S and P, I just put some money in?

• 6:33Mark Gagnon?

  The five women that listened, they turned off by now.

• 6:37Speaker 02

  What about Kathy Wood? Kathy Wood's one of the greatest investors of all time.

• 6:41Speaker 00

  No, she's not.

• 6:43Speaker 02

  She's up there.

• 6:43Speaker 00

  There's no chance, there's no chance that that's the case.

• 6:45Mark Gagnon?

  What do you mean, Nancy Pelosi?

• 6:47Speaker 02

  Nancy Pelosi, man.

• 6:49Speaker 00

  Can I, can I, can I make my, can I make my argument, though? Can I make my?

• 6:52Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 6:52Speaker 00

  Those women are post-menopausal, so they're.

• 6:59Speaker 00

  I have a daughter and I have a wife, I just point this out.

• 7:04Speaker 00

  Okay. If you invest in the S and P 500, historically, you're making 5% to 10% a year. Okay? If you invest in fake tits, fake ass, fake lips, or whatever.

• 7:15Speaker 02

  Invest in yourself.

• 7:16Speaker 00

  That is a, and I'm not even being facetious, that is minimum 500% return on your money. There is no girl that has gotten a boob job, ass job, lip job, that hasn't seen a 200% increase in the money that is coming into their account that year. Calendar year.

• 7:33Mark Gagnon?

  Absolute fact, just checks out, keep going.

• 7:35Speaker 02

  So they do invest, just in different ways.

• 7:37Speaker 00

  Kylie Jenner fucking injected herself into a billion dollars.

• 7:40Mark Gagnon?

  Billion dollars.

• 7:41Speaker 00

  You cannot tell me that, and it's a sad, it's fucked up world that we live in.

• 7:45Speaker 02

  Is it?

• 7:46Speaker 00

  Well, for us. Think about us. This is the, the, the white and black disadvantage that exists in America. We have to invest in the stock market in order to have children.

• 7:59Speaker 00

  How crazy is this? Do you want a family? Well, I might as well get into Google early. I might as well invest in SpaceX, so one day a woman will let me have children with her.

• 8:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:11Speaker 00

  We have to do these things. We're looking at tickers, we're looking at the green going up, the red going down, because that's the only way our last name moves on.

• 8:19Mark Gagnon?

  That's our boob job.

• 8:20Speaker 00

  That's our boob job.

• 8:21Mark Gagnon?

  It wasn't even his dead swimmers, it was just the fact he ain't putting money in the S and P.

• 8:25Speaker 00

  I didn't have enough money in the S and P.

• 8:28Mark Gagnon?

  Once a hit.

• 8:29Speaker 00

  Boom.

• 8:30Mark Gagnon?

  They swam.

• 8:30Speaker 00

  They swam. They swam to a doctor, and then from that doctor, very expensive doctor, and then back into my wife. You need to do that.

• 8:37Mark Gagnon?

  Exactly.

• 8:39Speaker 00

  Now, it sucks, I'm not saying that women are gold diggers, but I don't think any woman's dream is to be with a broke guy. I don't think there's any, there are girls that fuck broke guys and accidentally get pregnant, that happens. But there's no woman who's like, I need a broke guy.

• 8:53Speaker 02

  No, they're going up, or at least lateral.

• 8:55Speaker 00

  At least lateral. And lateral is like, fine.

• 8:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's the settles. Lateral is the settles.

• 9:00Speaker 00

  It's a settle.

• 9:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're trying to go up.

• 9:02Speaker 00

  Who isn't trying to? And we're trying to go up physically.

• 9:07Speaker 00

  Right?

• 9:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, okay, I'm with you.

• 9:09Mark Gagnon?

  I'm with you.

• 9:10Speaker 00

  No?

• 9:11Speaker 02

  I'm with you, I'm with you.

• 9:12Speaker 00

  Do you ever see a guy with like a girl he deserves, and you're like, fuck? The hell's wrong with you?

• 9:17Mark Gagnon?

  Oh my god. We talking, I like this.

• 9:20Speaker 00

  No, like, what do you? But like, you see, you ever see like, like a guy with a girl that's ugly, and then you're like, ah, like?

• 9:27Speaker 02

  They love each other.

• 9:30Speaker 00

  I assume he's trans. Like, I assume there's something else going on. Like, there's, there's some weird dysmorphia, there's some like trauma from his childhood, or something like that.

• 9:39Mark Gagnon?

  That's why women get so perplexed when they see the attractive black dude with the chubby white girl, it's like, this doesn't make sense.

• 9:46Speaker 00

  All right, let's get into it.

• 9:48Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know.

• 9:49Speaker 00

  That's racism.

• 9:50Mark Gagnon?

  I think it is.

• 9:51Speaker 02

  Wait, what? The reverse way?

• 9:53Mark Gagnon?

  They all think.

• 9:54Speaker 00

  No, it's a dysmorphia.

• 9:55Mark Gagnon?

  They're basketball players.

• 9:57Speaker 02

  What the fuck is happening?

• 10:00Speaker 00

  Listen, not every fat woman is in the WNBA. Not every fat woman is, not every fat white chick is in the WNBA.

• 10:07Mark Gagnon?

  Or softball, something. Volleyball is one of them.

• 10:09Speaker 02

  I'm a professional softball player and these poor guys are not a good.

• 10:12Mark Gagnon?

  So now the guy's like, I hit the lotto.

• 10:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, I found a straight one. I found a straight one.

• 10:17Mark Gagnon?

  Maybe. Another great Patrice joke about the white slaves. I have a big white slave, big fat white girl. Go upstairs, warm the bed.

• 10:31Speaker 00

  But if you're a broke black dude that doesn't have like heating or whatever like that, having a big white chick to roll around in your bed is a fucking fantastic thing to do before you get to sleep.

• 10:39Speaker 02

  I think of that joke every time I get in my cold bed. And I'm like, damn, having a big old fat white slave would be awesome.

• 10:44Speaker 00

  You guys don't know that that homeless black dude that like was going viral?

• 10:48Speaker 02

  Wait, which one?

• 10:48Speaker 00

  You haven't seen the homeless black dude? He was like so proud about being homeless. He had a big, big fat white girl that was like with him.

• 10:54Speaker 02

  No.

• 10:55Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yeah.

• 10:55Speaker 00

  He was going viral. Not really much in white circles, but.

• 10:59Speaker 02

  He was living outside?

• 11:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, and they were living outside in like a tent or whatever.

• 11:03Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, what happened to him?

• 11:04Speaker 00

  I follow him religiously.

• 11:06Speaker 02

  They were trying to get out though, I thought, right? That was the whole thing?

• 11:08Speaker 00

  And then she was like OnlyFans in it or whatever. And then they were going to hotel and they get kicked out the hotel, whatever. But like if you had to be homeless outside.

• 11:17Speaker 02

  Be warm.

• 11:18Speaker 00

  Big old polar bear rolling up to you.

• 11:21Speaker 00

  No, it's not horrible, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 11:25Speaker 02

  This guy.

• 11:25Speaker 00

  That guy, yeah, yeah.

• 11:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, that is a good point.

• 11:28Mark Gagnon?

  We should bring him on.

• 11:29Speaker 00

  That would be.

• 11:30Speaker 02

  Dude, I thought about it.

• 11:31Speaker 00

  Amazing guest.

• 11:31Speaker 02

  I thought about it.

• 11:33Speaker 00

  And? Like a little smelly or something, you know, it's like.

• 11:37Speaker 02

  You gotta wash them down.

• 11:38Mark Gagnon?

  You put them in the hotel before.

• 11:39Speaker 00

  It's not that bad. We've done it for years.

• 11:41Speaker 02

  No, I'm not.

• 11:42Speaker 00

  We've done it for years. We're used to this.

• 11:44Mark Gagnon?

  Fairmore maxing over here.

• 11:45Speaker 00

  Fairmore max, Mumbai maxing over here.

• 11:49Mark Gagnon?

  Side of the couch is never gonna recover.

• 11:52Speaker 02

  Well, do you want to know part of the issue?

• 11:53Mark Gagnon?

  Dude, Tyler Olivera did a documentary about the way that Mark smells that got taken off the internet.

• 12:01Speaker 02

  Our festival?

• 12:02Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that festival.

• 12:04Speaker 02

  I put on cologne today and I walked out and my wife goes, oh, did you fucking bug bomb the house?

• 12:09Speaker 00

  Bug bomb?

• 12:10Speaker 02

  I was like, what do you mean? She's like, what's that smell?

• 12:12Mark Gagnon?

  What cologne did you put on?

• 12:13Speaker 02

  Some cologne that a friend of mine gave me.

• 12:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 12:16Speaker 02

  And I couldn't find my actual cologne that I use. And I was like, well, I might as well put on cologne. Bang, haven't washed this shirt in a while. So I sprayed it down and she was like, oh, this stinks.

• 12:23Mark Gagnon?

  So you just put cologne over a stinky shirt and you wonder why you stink?

• 12:27Speaker 00

  Can I, can I?

• 12:28Speaker 02

  That's what everyone does.

• 12:29Speaker 00

  No.

• 12:30Speaker 02

  No, no, listen.

• 12:30Speaker 00

  It doesn't add up. No, no, no, it doesn't. It just makes the cologne smell shittier.

• 12:34Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 12:34Speaker 00

  No, yes. Guys, this fall, I'm back in the lab, okay? We're putting a new hour together. So September 11th and 12th, I'm gonna be in New Brunswick, New Jersey. 18th and 19th, Houston, Texas. The 25th and 26th, West Nyack, New York. October 23rd and 24th, I'll be in Indianapolis, Indiana. November 6th and 7th, Birmingham, Alabama. November 13th, 14th, Cleveland, Ohio. December 4th and 5th, Raleigh, North Carolina. December 11th and 12th, Columbus, Ohio. Those are the shows. I will see you guys there. TheAndersSols.com for tickets if they are still available. Peace.

• 13:10Speaker 02

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• 13:39Speaker 00

  Can I ask you a serious question though? Serious question. You have sisters.

• 13:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:44Speaker 00

  Okay? They get.

• 13:45Speaker 02

  Ooh, I like that.

• 13:49Speaker 00

  You have sisters, right? They get a hundred thousand dollars, right? They find a hundred thousand dollars. What is, and they're not married, they don't have kids yet.

• 13:56Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 13:57Speaker 00

  What is your investment advice for your sisters?

• 14:02Speaker 00

  They're all working at Twin Peaks, serving wings.

• 14:04Speaker 02

  Wait, they're just coincidentally?

• 14:06Speaker 00

  They're just coincidentally serving wings at Twin Peaks.

• 14:08Speaker 02

  Okay. Well, I mean, look, you put in the S and P, you're gonna get a return year over year.

• 14:14Speaker 00

  Year over year.

• 14:15Speaker 02

  You live a pretty normal, humble life.

• 14:17Speaker 00

  You live, you live a normal, humble life. You won't touch that money, but that money could provide for your kids one day if you're even able to get them.

• 14:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. Or, you know, you meet a nice guy.

• 14:28Speaker 00

  Or, yeah. How are you gonna do that?

• 14:30Speaker 02

  Well, you know, there's plenty of great guys out there.

• 14:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 14:33Speaker 02

  You know, maybe he's a teacher.

• 14:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:35Speaker 02

  Right? And she meets him and they fall in love and.

• 14:38Mark Gagnon?

  You don't love your sisters, bro.

• 14:40Speaker 00

  All right, all right, make it not your sister. A strange woman running the street.

• 14:45Speaker 02

  Light it up.

• 14:46Speaker 00

  I mean, it's like, this is the, it's crazy. It's crazy.

• 14:51Mark Gagnon?

  If you don't get the petite PBO with the Lindsay Lohan facelift and a little C cup under the fat, what are you doing?

• 14:58Speaker 00

  What I'm trying to say is there is a way, there is a surgical procedure to increase your value astronomically for one, there's no surgical procedure to make you more rich. You can't put twenty thousand dollars in your wallet and your wallet's worth two hundred fifty thousand dollars.

• 15:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't you feel like there's a little part that's like, all right, I'm just gonna give in?

• 15:16Speaker 00

  What does that mean?

• 15:17Speaker 02

  I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna give in and just let some guy just, you know.

• 15:20Speaker 00

  Let some guy do what?

• 15:21Speaker 02

  What? Just find an NFL player and then just, you know, let him take care of it. You don't think that there's some women, they're like, no, I'm gonna do it myself.

• 15:28Speaker 00

  Do what themselves?

• 15:30Speaker 02

  Become a woman in STEM.

• 15:32Speaker 00

  Hold on just one second.

• 15:33Mark Gagnon?

  What's going on?

• 15:34Speaker 00

  I don't understand what he's even saying.

• 15:36Speaker 02

  There's some women that wanna have regular jobs, is all I'm saying.

• 15:38Speaker 00

  My mom did that. My mom did that.

• 15:40Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 15:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:41Mark Gagnon?

  And look how that went.

• 15:42Speaker 00

  What does that mean?

• 15:42Mark Gagnon?

  A beautiful lady, a beautiful, great lady who raised two wonderful kids.

• 15:47Speaker 00

  What the fuck does that mean?

• 15:48Speaker 02

  She has a business in New York City.

• 15:50Speaker 00

  She gave birth to my brother at forty years old. Okay, she's looked pregnant ever since.

• 15:56Mark Gagnon?

  Forty's in cheese.

• 15:57Speaker 02

  It's a different time.

• 15:58Speaker 00

  Okay?

• 15:59Speaker 02

  It's a different time.

• 15:59Speaker 00

  God bless her. No, she's an amazing woman, hardworking woman, built everything herself, built an amazing business, a woman who immigrated to this country legally.

• 16:07Speaker 02

  Okay, well, you don't have to have that.

• 16:08Speaker 00

  We think. Exactly, maybe just marry my dad and stay here lowkey. I might be an anchor baby for all I know. Holy shit. Okay.

• 16:18Speaker 02

  Would you have advised her at the peak of her ballroom dancing career to, to just shoot it up?

• 16:23Speaker 00

  Shoot what up?

• 16:24Speaker 02

  Injectables, lip injections.

• 16:26Speaker 00

  Here's the thing that I'm trying to say here, okay? Which is like, if you're already, if you're gonna go en naturel and you go en naturel, I totally get it. If you're already using a limp, limp, limp, a lip plumpener, so it gives you a plumper lip for the night, makeup, fake hair, a yoga pant that accentuates the way that your cheeks look, like if you're already doing the things.

• 16:53Mark Gagnon?

  Do the things.

• 16:55Speaker 02

  But then you gotta save up.

• 16:56Mark Gagnon?

  She was a ballroom dancer. She could have been on Dancing with the Stars.

• 17:00Speaker 00

  It didn't exist back then.

• 17:01Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 17:01Speaker 00

  She's a three-time US ballroom dance champion. They wouldn't have allowed her because she's so fucking good. She's the greatest dancer of her generation.

• 17:06Speaker 02

  She could maybe be the instructor for the.

• 17:08Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 17:08Mark Gagnon?

  That's what I meant.

• 17:09Speaker 00

  That's actually true.

• 17:12Speaker 00

  You are actually right. They did reach out to her about it. I just wanna put.

• 17:14Speaker 02

  No, you're lying.

• 17:15Mark Gagnon?

  Whoa.

• 17:15Speaker 02

  Are you serious? And what did she say?

• 17:18Speaker 00

  I think she would have done it and they were like, no.

• 17:22Speaker 02

  Wait, what?

• 17:23Speaker 00

  No, they didn't reach out to her about it. They reached, did they reach out to her to train somebody or they reached out to me about it? This is like, I was like, somebody, there was a talent.

• 17:31Speaker 02

  All right.

• 17:32Mark Gagnon?

  He was just lying today now?

• 17:35Speaker 00

  It's a girl who was, who was one of the dancers on the show, reached out to me. And she's like, would you have any interest in being on the show? And then I said to my mom, I was like, look, if we do this, you gotta also blah, blah, blah. And then I was like, I don't think my career is fucked enough to go on Dancing with the Stars.

• 17:56Speaker 02

  I want to be sick though. You gotta do it at some point.

• 17:57Speaker 00

  I would only do it for my mom.

• 17:59Speaker 02

  Does your wife watch the show?

• 18:00Speaker 00

  No.

• 18:01Speaker 02

  No.

• 18:02Speaker 00

  Ballet.

• 18:03Mark Gagnon?

  You could have been Chalamy.

• 18:04Speaker 00

  Guys, everybody points out his little dancing. This is about Daejon love.

• 18:09Speaker 02

  It's not about my sisters either. Okay, great point.

• 18:11Speaker 00

  He's from Switzerland. He came here at 10 years old.

• 18:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's a Swiss migrant. He's a Swiss migrant.

• 18:15Speaker 00

  How dumb are these women?

• 18:16Speaker 02

  Okay, well, like I said, some woman called it out.

• 18:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:19Speaker 02

  And one girl literally was like, oh, so show me some of your college highlights of you playing football. I wanna see. And he goes, I got hurt my college career, only had one year. Uh, but I got a private tryout, so now I'm on the team. And then she's like, oh, wow, like, there's no footage at all of anything? What number are you? And he's like, oh, the number is like, you know, the number thing is all weird, you know, da, da, da. And then he goes, it's funny how you think you know how the league works. It's a whole different world in the pros. And then he straight up says, I don't need anything from you, so why would I lie about playing football? This shit is so weird. I've never had anyone especially that doesn't know me in the league to question me in the way that you are. It's cap. I got a contract and videos at my tryout. Why would I send stuff to you? I don't gotta prove anything to you.

• 19:00Mark Gagnon?

  I love that. Flip it on her.

• 19:02Speaker 02

  And she was like, fine, I'll give you fifty thousand dollars.

• 19:04Mark Gagnon?

  Flip it on.

• 19:05Speaker 02

  She said, no, no, no.

• 19:08Speaker 00

  But that is like next level manipulation.

• 19:10Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 19:10Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying.

• 19:11Mark Gagnon?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 19:12Speaker 00

  Fucked up.

• 19:13Mark Gagnon?

  It's fucked up.

• 19:15Speaker 02

  He's getting in there.

• 19:18Speaker 00

  But now he fucked it up for all the other guys lying about being in the NFL. Think about that.

• 19:23Mark Gagnon?

  Is it?

• 19:24Speaker 00

  You got a girl, so it doesn't matter, but there was a time where you might have gotten laid abroad. If you were abroad as a black American, you could say you play in the NFL and there are girls in Spain that would believe you. Is that how? I think though, how'd you meet your girl?

• 19:39Speaker 00

  How did you guys connect?

• 19:42Mark Gagnon?

  Alright, so.

• 19:43Speaker 00

  Played for the Yankees. So when we were in Ukraine, they thought Jamil was Will.i.am. And we said that he was, and they bought that shit.

• 19:50Speaker 02

  Will.i.am, yeah.

• 19:51Speaker 00

  Literally.

• 19:52Speaker 02

  Will.i.am.

• 19:53Speaker 00

  They believe anything in Europe from America.

• 19:55Mark Gagnon?

  And y'all all got lucky from that?

• 19:58Speaker 00

  We had to pay.

• 20:00Speaker 00

  But we probably wouldn't have been able to get lucky if we didn't have, you know, if we didn't have Will.i.am.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  And you're flush.

• 20:05Mark Gagnon?

  I think yours was the other way around. They're supposed to pay you. They don't have money like that over there, man.

• 20:10Speaker 02

  You got scammed, I think.

• 20:12Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 20:12Speaker 00

  No, no.

• 20:13Speaker 02

  You thought this was a prostitute. They just took money from you.

• 20:15Speaker 00

  No, it was a fair exchange. It was a fair exchange, Mark. It was a fair exchange.

• 20:19Speaker 02

  These girls are pretending to be pros.

• 20:21Speaker 00

  I know.

• 20:21Speaker 02

  And they're like, yeah, I'll show you a crazy time.

• 20:23Speaker 00

  Hey, it was a fair exchange, Mark. Okay, these are good, hardworking girls and they deserved it and I believe in supporting the war effort.

• 20:29Speaker 02

  We were in Russia and those Chinese tourists thought you were Barack Obama.

• 20:33Mark Gagnon?

  No, I thought it was ludicrous.

• 20:34Speaker 02

  No, you wanted it to be ludicrous.

• 20:36Mark Gagnon?

  I did.

• 20:36Speaker 02

  But they remember they were coming up to you. We have footage of them coming up to you.

• 20:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, some like Asian looking Russian came up and they're like, Barack Obama. Barack Obama.

• 20:44Mark Gagnon?

  And she wanted to touch my skin.

• 20:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, they were excited.

• 20:47Mark Gagnon?

  I felt special.

• 20:48Speaker 02

  So you could have, you could have pretended. I wonder if the level of the lie matters depending on what you get. You know what I mean? Like, not, not all lies are the same.

• 20:56Speaker 00

  Go.

• 20:57Speaker 02

  So like, if you lie and manipulate these women out of millions of dollars.

• 21:00Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 21:01Speaker 02

  Is that worse than lying to then sleep with a woman one time?

• 21:07Speaker 00

  Lying to sleep with a woman one time.

• 21:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, you say, oh yeah, I'm in Europe and you say like, oh yeah, you know, I'm actually a professional football player.

• 21:13Speaker 00

  Well, we're. How do I say this?

• 21:20Speaker 00

  What is the great Chris Rock joke? It's like, you're not me, me, you're me and my representative. Right? So there's going to be a certain level of, you don't want to call it lying, but like omission when you first meet someone, just like these girls. They're kind of lying a little bit when they meet us.

• 21:33Mark Gagnon?

  Like a job interview.

• 21:34Speaker 00

  It's a job interview.

• 21:36Speaker 02

  You're the best version of yourself.

• 21:37Speaker 00

  You tell the truths that you want them to know.

• 21:39Mark Gagnon?

  Exactly.

• 21:39Speaker 00

  And then you omit the things that they might not be into.

• 21:43Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, omission's different. If you say like, yeah, you know, I play football.

• 21:46Speaker 00

  Is omission different? What if you have AIDS? If you have AIDS and you omit that, that seems like a pretty big fucking lie.

• 21:53Speaker 02

  Well, if they ask, you gotta, you gotta be honest.

• 21:55Speaker 00

  What do you mean if they ask? You should be honest immediately. You should have a fucking scarlet letter on your forehead if this is the eighties. Now we know that it can be treated. You can have a, you know, a movie theater chain or whatever. You can own the fucking Dodgers if you want.

• 22:08Speaker 02

  Talking about AIDS, I'm just saying.

• 22:10Speaker 00

  I am. I'm talking about it. I know you guys won't, but I will.

• 22:16Speaker 02

  Finally someone's going to speak up about AIDS.

• 22:18Speaker 00

  If someone didn't omit the fact that they had AIDS, fucking magic wouldn't have it.

• 22:25Speaker 02

  That's a good point.

• 22:25Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 22:26Speaker 00

  They omitted it. So omission is bad too, depending on the thing you're omitting.

• 22:30Speaker 02

  That's fair. That's fair, but I'm just saying, if you say like, oh yeah, I used to play ball back in America, you know? Technically that's true.

• 22:36Speaker 00

  They don't know what that means. They'll ask for more details.

• 22:38Speaker 02

  And they say, oh, and you say, yeah, I played basketball back, back home.

• 22:41Speaker 00

  And they go, what kind of ball do you play?

• 22:44Speaker 02

  I played basketball at a really high level.

• 22:45Speaker 00

  Oh, basketball?

• 22:47Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 22:48Mark Gagnon?

  You see a fucking ladyboy somewhere?

• 22:53Speaker 00

  There's Chinese people that live in Europe, Al. This is a Chinese person that lives in Italy.

• 22:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 22:57Speaker 00

  This Chinese person lives in Rome.

• 23:00Speaker 00

  But because somebody has other fucking bodegas out there, right? It's not like Italians are going to open them. What type of basketball do you play? Oh, you play the bounce of a basketball?

• 23:13Speaker 00

  Are you bouncing a burasket ball? I'm his fucking coworker, dude. I'm Taylor Chaney Chan. This is, this is the guy they were giving millions of dollars to. You give me 50,000 dollars.

• 23:27Speaker 02

  Why are they smiling so much?

• 23:29Mark Gagnon?

  I want to hear more about his work. Like, how did? I saw the shit on the beach, but like, what game did he really run with? Like, to get these women? Just say, hey, I play ball. Invest in me?

• 23:40Speaker 02

  It was a whole thing. It was literally like, hey, I play for the 49ers. I'm a professional football player. Not only that, my family is the richest family in Switzerland.

• 23:48Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, okay.

• 23:49Speaker 02

  We are business owners. I'm the VP of International Affairs of my family's estate.

• 23:53Speaker 00

  And what does that mean? What do you do as VP?

• 23:55Speaker 02

  Well, you know, you have to fire and hire like different executives. You have to manage different teams.

• 23:59Speaker 00

  He is just.

• 24:00Mark Gagnon?

  This is good.

• 24:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, but it's so funny. It's like, it only works. It only works with women that don't have a job and have no plan on getting one. Because like, if you had a job, he would start describing the role of international affairs.

• 24:17Speaker 02

  And they go, this makes no sense.

• 24:18Speaker 00

  And be like, well, that's not what anybody would do as part of the business. And then they would also be like, there's no black people in Switzerland. And there's no way that you moved here at 10 years old and that you are the richest family in Switzerland and you're black. There's just no way. Now, I will say, someone had to bring the chocolate there.

• 24:37Speaker 02

  That's a good point.

• 24:38Speaker 00

  And if that's what he went with, if, if he was like.

• 24:41Mark Gagnon?

  Genius. The beans?

• 24:42Speaker 00

  If you.

• 24:42Speaker 02

  Cocoa beans.

• 24:44Mark Gagnon?

  We brought the cocoa beans.

• 24:45Speaker 00

  If he said, there's no cocoa beans in Switzerland, we had to bring them.

• 24:47Speaker 02

  Where do you think it comes from?

• 24:48Speaker 00

  Africa. We bring the cocoa from Africa.

• 24:51Mark Gagnon?

  Look how quick we came up with that. You don't think? He's been running game for years.

• 24:55Speaker 00

  He's working so hard, if you ask me. You don't gotta be a 49ers.

• 24:58Mark Gagnon?

  This is good. You check all the boxes. Now you check the girls that are the gold diggers that want the players. You check the girls that are the gold diggers that just want the VP or whatever, like. Or you check the box of the girls that just want the legacy, old money. Like, he's checking all boxes.

• 25:14Speaker 00

  Can I ask you something?

• 25:14Mark Gagnon?

  This guy is good.

• 25:15Speaker 00

  No, no, he's good at what he does.

• 25:16Mark Gagnon?

  This guy is good.

• 25:17Speaker 00

  Can I ask you a question? Alex, Mark. Guy lies about his financial status.

• 25:25Speaker 00

  To bet a woman, have that woman fall in love with him, have children. Girl lies about her looks. She had the surgery that we were talking about earlier. Right? There's a famous story of a Asian woman that got this crazy plastic surgery, has a baby with a Chinese guy. And then they see the baby and the guy's like, what the fuck's going on? And then he finds out what she looked like before. If you omit the fact that you had all these surgeries and omit what you used to look like and then you procreate with somebody. Is that the same thing as just omitting the truth of your financial status?

• 26:01Speaker 02

  I would say they're similar. I would say they're similar. If, if you keep it omission for the longest time.

• 26:06Speaker 00

  For the longest time.

• 26:07Speaker 02

  Because if you show up and you got lip filler and you don't mention anything, I don't know if that's lying. It's kind of like, I'm showing a different version of myself. It's like having braces, you know what I mean? I don't lie about having braces. But I just, my teeth are, I mean, not straight anymore, but they used to be straight. And if people say like, oh, did you have braces? I'd be like, yes, I did. And I think most women that get surgeries, if you ask them about it, they'll be like, yeah, I did. And so with a guy, if they're like, oh, are you rich? And he's like, yeah, I am. That would be lying. But if he's like presenting his business and he's like, yeah, I got a startup and da, da, da, da. And then they look in the financials and he's like, well, you know, we're just getting, getting going. And he's honest about it, then I think there's.

• 26:37Speaker 00

  Then it's okay.

• 26:38Speaker 02

  Then it's okay. But you can present like the best version of it without lying. And then when they ask more questions, you gotta be honest.

• 26:44Mark Gagnon?

  How long can you hold out telling them, yeah, things aren't going too well?

• 26:51Speaker 02

  Once you're exclusive, you gotta explain it.

• 26:53Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 26:54Speaker 02

  I think that's the rule. Once it's like, hey, we're dating, boyfriend, girlfriend, then you gotta kind of.

• 26:58Speaker 00

  Once the kids are involved, because the kids are.

• 27:00Speaker 02

  Oh, of, of course.

• 27:01Mark Gagnon?

  Sure. So you're saying.

• 27:03Speaker 00

  Lie to get laid.

• 27:03Mark Gagnon?

  He's not doing anything wrong.

• 27:05Speaker 00

  You're saying lie to get laid.

• 27:06Speaker 02

  You're scamming them of money.

• 27:08Mark Gagnon?

  Hey, they're not exclusive.

• 27:11Speaker 00

  Can I throw a little wrench in this?

• 27:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, throw it.

• 27:15Speaker 00

  Gay couple, no plans on having children.

• 27:17Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 27:19Speaker 00

  What's the point of telling the truth?

• 27:21Mark Gagnon?

  Ooh.

• 27:23Speaker 00

  Because the kids are the innocent victims in this. Right? Girl maybe lies about the way that she looks or lies about some other things. And then you have this kid and the kid deals with all these like health issues that she didn't, you know, disclose.

• 27:35Speaker 02

  Health issues just because she's ugly?

• 27:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, looking ugly is a huge health issue. So like, there's, there's obviously, you know, components of this we have to take very seriously. And then guy says that he's a provider and he can provide safety and security for this woman and the children. Turns out he's not. Now the children are suffering. Okay. Right? So somewhat even exchange here.

• 27:54Speaker 02

  Worst case scenario, now your kid's ugly and broke.

• 27:56Mark Gagnon?

  Fuck. Damn. Oh, my God.

• 27:59Speaker 02

  Worst of both worlds.

• 28:00Mark Gagnon?

  Shit.

• 28:02Speaker 00

  Sometimes two negatives don't make a positive.

• 28:04Speaker 02

  No, it's a double negative.

• 28:05Speaker 00

  It's a double negative. So, um, with gay couple, no kids involved. You both get to live your catfish.

• 28:15Speaker 02

  Hmm, live your catfish is good.

• 28:18Speaker 00

  Do you know what I mean? Like, because at the end of the day, with catfishing now, like, a lot of these girls, I think, kind of wanted to be catfished. They wanted to believe, until you start giving them money. They want to believe that they're hooking up with a wide receiver for the 49ers. That's more fun than just hooking up with some like random guy.

• 28:34Speaker 02

  And he wants to believe he's desirable enough to get a beautiful one.

• 28:38Speaker 00

  So they're both living in this illusion and they're kind of happy with it. Like, just like a lot of catfish couples. The catfish person gets the desire from a beautiful person. And the person getting catfish gets the desire from another beautiful or interesting or handsome person. And they're both like emotionally satisfied. And as long as they never meet that bond.

• 28:57Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. The one thing that doesn't really make sense about his case is, most girls now, like the ones that are like that, they want the money. Like, they see the football player and they're like, oh, he's going to trick on me, buy me bags, all this stuff, fly me out, all that stuff. How the fuck did he do a Uno reverse card?

• 29:16Speaker 02

  I bet you.

• 29:17Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 29:17Speaker 02

  It's the women that didn't want to look like they were money hungry, but lowkey they were. And so they were like, no, no, I got my own money. I'm fine, da, da, da.

• 29:25Mark Gagnon?

  If I show him this now, he'll take me more seriously.

• 29:28Speaker 00

  And it proves that they're money hungry because he's like, I could double your money, seven to 10 days.

• 29:33Mark Gagnon?

  I mean, that's not.

• 29:34Speaker 02

  But that's investment. Everyone knows that.

• 29:35Mark Gagnon?

  If it's anybody.

• 29:38Speaker 00

  Again, do you know any women that have like robust portfolios that their father didn't give them? And it sounds fucked up.

• 29:44Speaker 02

  I know women that are financial advisors, so yes.

• 29:48Speaker 02

  I got an economics degree. There's women in my class.

• 29:53Speaker 00

  What are you talking about? Like, I mean, that's sincere, like.

• 29:56Mark Gagnon?

  They were just in class to meet their future husband, like.

• 30:00Speaker 00

  That's fucking sexy. Oh, you can't do that to me. Fuck. I want to jump on board and I'll. You're a piece of shit. Dude, you're a real piece of shit for that, dude. Al, you're a piece of.

• 30:11Mark Gagnon?

  But, but.

• 30:13Speaker 00

  I know. There's no buts to that at all. What you just said, the fact that you think women are going to school and, and, and, and studying economics so that they can meet a guy in finance? Is that what you're saying?

• 30:23Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that's what I was told me.

• 30:25Speaker 00

  Are you telling me that there are women in my neighborhood that is located near the financial district in New York City? That will go to a sports bar, even though they know nothing about sports and just hang out because there's a lot of guys in Patagonia that's there?

• 30:36Mark Gagnon?

  I have heard that from a guy.

• 30:39Speaker 00

  That's why all those girls are just hanging around pretending to watch sports?

• 30:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yes. Some women do that.

• 30:44Speaker 00

  That's diabolical.

• 30:45Mark Gagnon?

  And then they pretend to know football. And then they think this guy's a NFL player.

• 30:51Speaker 00

  Is that like when guys pretend to know about like astrology?

• 30:54Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Oh, yeah.

• 30:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 30:57Speaker 02

  Being into crystals and shit. Dude, you want to know something really funny about the crystals and astrology shit?

• 31:02Mark Gagnon?

  I'll keep believing, but keep going.

• 31:04Speaker 00

  Well, here's the thing. If women are being honest with you about it, like, women like to be spiritual. But they don't want a guy who believes that dumb shit. Do you know what I mean? Like, like, if, if, if you tell a girl, like, oh, you're Aries. Yeah, you're such an Aries because you're like a loof or whatever. Like, they like when you talk about you, but the second you're like, yeah, like my rising sun is a Sagittarius. They're like, you're a gay.

• 31:30Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 31:31Speaker 00

  You're a gay guy.

• 31:32Mark Gagnon?

  They don't want you to know it, but they want to share it with you.

• 31:35Speaker 00

  They just want to talk about themselves.

• 31:36Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, shit. This is real. Like, they want it. Yeah.

• 31:39Speaker 00

  But the second you're like, no, I'm into crystals and I have some like asta mite and I pray on that every night. They're like, this guy's a fucking freak. He's behaving like me. Like, if you sage your apartment when she walks in, she's like, nah, I can't be around this guy. But they will sage their apartment.

• 31:55Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 31:55Speaker 00

  What is that?

• 31:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, we do the same thing, though, right? I mean, like.

• 31:59Speaker 00

  Like sports or politics?

• 32:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 32:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, you don't want a girl in either of those.

• 32:06Speaker 02

  I like, I want to know about sports, but I don't want you to know a ton and be like the biggest fan ever, drunk in the games.

• 32:11Speaker 00

  You see that fourth round, you see that fourth round offensive lineman that the Giants just picked up? Can't get someone from the SEC? Those guys last three years.

• 32:20Speaker 02

  You're like, whoa.

• 32:21Mark Gagnon?

  This is a lot.

• 32:22Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay, that's fair. That's a good point.

• 32:24Speaker 02

  So we both kind of do it.

• 32:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:25Speaker 02

  But I think for girls, it's like, yeah, it's like Housewives. Like, they want to watch it.

• 32:29Speaker 00

  But they don't want us to be in.

• 32:30Speaker 02

  They don't want you to be too into it.

• 32:32Speaker 00

  Shit. My wife did this shit the other night. It was unbelievable. She's watching Housewives. She had a hard day, man. Taking care of the kids, you know, it's, I'm, you know, I'm like, all right, she just needs her time. She watches Housewives and scrolls her phone while she's watching Housewives.

• 32:44Speaker 02

  That's the point.

• 32:45Speaker 00

  Okay, so I'm sitting next to her and I'm like, do we have to watch this shit? And she's like, yeah, I like, I like, I'm watching. I'm like, I'm watching you scroll your phone and like online shop. You're not even watching. She's like, this is how I watch it. I go, okay, fine. You had a tough day. I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna sit here and do it. I start scrolling my phone and she goes, could you give me a foot rub?

• 33:08Speaker 00

  And I go, I go, Emma, now I'm not only not watching anything I want to watch. You're also not watching the show that I don't want to watch. And I can't even scroll because I'm rubbing your feet. Like, like that is complete and total cuckery, right?

• 33:25Speaker 02

  But also she knows you.

• 33:26Speaker 00

  I love a foot.

• 33:27Speaker 02

  And she knows your pro lectures.

• 33:28Speaker 00

  She's got a little, she's got a little foot rub.

• 33:30Speaker 02

  So she incepted you.

• 33:31Speaker 00

  She got a little foot rub. Yeah, I had half of it in my mouth within seven minutes. Yeah. Hundred percent, hundred percent.

• 33:39Speaker 02

  I mean, how early in your dating of your wife did you bring up that you, you know, had an affinity for feet?

• 33:45Speaker 00

  Oh, I bring that up fast. I would mention within the first three texts.

• 33:49Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 33:50Speaker 00

  And I say it as a joke, but like, it's not a joke. They all laugh at it. I'm like, why are we laughing? It's not funny. I'll be like, yeah.

• 33:57Mark Gagnon?

  Would you go on a date before seeing their feet?

• 34:00Speaker 00

  That's not a possibility. Because if they have an Instagram, I've already looked at every single picture and I'm like, got it. I know what every one of your toes looks like by the time we go on a date. There's not a girl I'm going on a date with that I don't know every single one of their toes.

• 34:12Mark Gagnon?

  Wow.

• 34:13Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 34:13Mark Gagnon?

  Wow.

• 34:14Speaker 00

  If they have it on Instagram. If they don't have it on Instagram, huge red flag. Huge red flag. I will roll the dice and I will make sure that we're in a place where I'm gonna see those feet.

• 34:23Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 34:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. Like, we should go bowling.

• 34:28Speaker 00

  Like, can I just wear my own shoes? No.

• 34:30Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no, sandals. Take a barefoot bowling place.

• 34:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, exactly. I wouldn't even wear your socks in those shoes.

• 34:36Speaker 02

  See, it's a perfect relationship. You love feet, she loves foot rubs. Everyone gets what they want.

• 34:41Speaker 00

  It works out.

• 34:41Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 34:42Speaker 00

  It works out, man.

• 34:43Speaker 02

  But if you were lying about liking feet, now all of a sudden, there's a problem.

• 34:47Speaker 00

  So then what should happen to this guy? He should go to jail for stealing, but not for.

• 34:51Speaker 02

  Being a player?

• 34:52Speaker 00

  Being a player.

• 34:53Speaker 02

  You can't hate the player, dude.

• 34:54Speaker 00

  Did he smash any of these girls?

• 34:56Speaker 02

  That I can't figure out. No woman has confessed to it as far as I'm concerned, but I'm sure.

• 35:01Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, he's just gay and finessing these women.

• 35:06Speaker 02

  But I'm sure he was smashing along the way. You know what I mean?

• 35:08Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, if he, if no girl has come out to say that he's smashed, he's just a gay finessa.

• 35:15Speaker 02

  I don't, nah. I don't, I'm sure some women have. Ivan, there's so much info on him, it's hard to get through everything.

• 35:21Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 35:21Speaker 02

  I mean, this is like one of the funniest videos of him explaining like his elaborate family and how much wealth they have.

• 35:27Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, let's see that.

• 35:28Speaker 02

  So this is him describing being one of the richest families in Switzerland.

• 35:31Speaker 04

  I was born in Switzerland. I moved to America when I was 10 years old.

• 35:34Speaker 02

  Checks out.

• 35:35Speaker 04

  My family is one of the richest families in Switzerland.

• 35:37Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 35:37Speaker 04

  Like, we're developers. So we develop malls, hotels, luxury estates, um, communities, luxury communities, which could be homes that are $4.5 million, a house in the above, like one of the homes that I have right now. We also do like loaning, million, anything over a million dollars to certain companies who are already established. So for instance, like at McDonald's, which they would never, but if they did, need anything over a million dollars in loan to help their business grow, we would be the people.

• 35:58Speaker 02

  You got to loan money in McDonald's, a hell of a rough.

• 36:00Speaker 04

  Because we only deal with businesses that are successful. So businesses that are successful, you are going to keep their interest really low because they'll keep coming back. So that's another business thing that we do as well.

• 36:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:08Speaker 04

  What I do for our company is I'm the VP of International Affairs. So I handle things like hiring and firing senior positions, um, relocations, renovations, permits and petitions.

• 36:15Speaker 00

  Permits, yeah.

• 36:15Speaker 04

  And I'm the guy who authorizes the million dollars or more for certain companies, like I was just saying. Domestically, we have shares in three Gucci stores. We are the shareholder, the majority shareholder of three Gucci stores here in America. One is in Dallas, one is in Southeast Miami, Florida, and the third is in Manhattan on Saks Fifth Avenue.

• 36:30Speaker 02

  Saks Fifth Avenue. On Saks Fifth Avenue.

• 36:35Speaker 02

  On Saks Fifth Avenue.

• 36:36Speaker 00

  Let me tell you something, ladies, if you fell for this, you deserve to be in prison. You should be in jail too because you're a danger to yourself and the people around you. Any girl that falls for this, because now you don't even have an excuse. You should know that the Gucci store is not on Saks Fifth Avenue.

• 36:51Speaker 02

  That there's no such thing as a street called Saks Fifth Avenue.

• 36:54Speaker 00

  I'm trying to understand what girl could even fall for this.

• 36:58Mark Gagnon?

  He's doing the fast talking. He's doing the dove buzzwords, buzzwords, buzzwords.

• 37:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly. I mean, he talks about like Belvidere is a town near San Rafael and how much money they, they control in the.

• 37:09Speaker 04

  Most people don't even know about it, but it's, like I said, it's one of the best places you can live in America. We have 65% of equity in those two cities. And I'm sure you've heard about Calabasas before.

• 37:18Speaker 00

  What is that?

• 37:19Speaker 04

  So that's what, now the reason why I'm here is because once my dad retires, I'll be in charge of our international affairs. And I hire someone else to be in charge of international affairs. So that's how this thing is going. Now, I have bodyguards. I have three. Um, the head of my security actually lives with me 24/7. I have two other one who lives an hour away, one lives two hours away. Whenever I leave the state or the country, it's mandatory by order of my father, since he lives in Switzerland, for them to be with me on every flight, out of the store, the bank, wherever, barbershop, they come with me if I'm out of the state. My head of security who lives with me, he's with me all the time, no matter what. Um, I also have a personal and private chef, who's also a personal and private chef for other NFL, um, football players, basketball players and celebrities. Now, I will disclose their names because that's in the contract, but that's what he does as well. And he lives with me full time as well. So.

• 37:56Speaker 00

  Damn. So he does it full time for you, but also for the other basketball players and celebrities. This guy's working, man. This guy's working hard.

• 38:04Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 38:04Mark Gagnon?

  But it's cool to say that you have the security with you all the time because now it's like you could just bring your boys out.

• 38:10Speaker 00

  That's my security.

• 38:11Mark Gagnon?

  All the time.

• 38:13Mark Gagnon?

  That was a nice move right there. I liked that one.

• 38:15Speaker 02

  So this is one of the women that he scammed.

• 38:18Speaker 02

  She posted on Twitter, I, I would verify this, this is alleged, okay? She says, went from dating these little Bay Area boys to being on a date with an NFL player. Ladies, this is your sign to never settle.

• 38:29Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 38:32Speaker 00

  Oh, no. Oh, no.

• 38:37Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 38:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:39Speaker 00

  Do we know for a fact that that's him?

• 38:41Speaker 02

  I, I don't know for a fact, but it's the internet, you know?

• 38:44Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, it's good. I like it.

• 38:46Speaker 02

  It is wild. Fuck. And apparently he even got Google's AI to confirm that he was on the team.

• 38:52Speaker 00

  Oh, he just kept inundating it with.

• 38:54Speaker 02

  Just flooding the internet with like, yeah, I'm an NFL player, Instagram posts, like fake blogs, da, da, da, da. And so girls would Google it and they'd be like, yeah, of course.

• 39:02Speaker 00

  On his LinkedIn, he spelled receiver wrong.

• 39:05Speaker 02

  Spelled receiver?

• 39:08Speaker 00

  It's good. I before E, except after C, playboy.

• 39:10Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 39:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:11Speaker 02

  But that kind of tracks for an NFL player.

• 39:13Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 39:14Speaker 02

  In a way, it's almost more believable, you know?

• 39:15Speaker 00

  Can I ask you guys a question at this point with, like, dating an NFL player? Okay.

• 39:26Speaker 00

  I'm not saying that they'll all beat you up. But the chances of getting beaten up are significantly higher.

• 39:35Mark Gagnon?

  At least some percentage is higher, I'll go with.

• 39:38Speaker 00

  Right? Like if we're just going off the data, the chances of getting beat up by your partner, if they're an NFL player, are significantly higher. Not as high as if like you become a lesbian, but probably before that, the chances of domestic violence are higher.

• 39:55Mark Gagnon?

  Like lesbian.

• 39:57Speaker 00

  Lesbian number one. Like if you date a girl, you get fucked up. UFC might be below NFL.

• 40:05Speaker 02

  Oh no, we'd have to look at the data.

• 40:06Speaker 00

  I mean, it's like there's a chat GPT we can ask right now.

• 40:10Speaker 02

  I've already asked Gipit. I've already asked chat.

• 40:14Speaker 00

  Why? You guys call it Gipit?

• 40:15Speaker 02

  I mean, I call it Gipit just because it's dumb. You're like, yeah, I'm talking to chat.

• 40:18Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, you say chat.

• 40:20Speaker 00

  What do you guys say?

• 40:22Speaker 02

  I mean, if I'm being serious, chat GPT.

• 40:23Speaker 00

  What do the kids say?

• 40:25Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know. Kids don't use AI. They hate it.

• 40:28Speaker 02

  I think the kids might be against it. Fuck out of here, you know?

• 40:30Mark Gagnon?

  They don't use, they don't like it.

• 40:32Speaker 00

  These kids, man.

• 40:33Mark Gagnon?

  They'll grow up.

• 40:34Speaker 00

  They, they grew up with everything and they're complaining about more. If they grew up with nothing, where you had to go to Barnes and Noble to look shit up. Back in the day, if you want to go on vacation, you had to go to a fucking bookstore and buy Lonely Planet. Do you remember the Lonely Planet book?

• 40:53Speaker 00

  You buy Lonely Planet Puerto Rico, Lonely Planet Dominican Republic, and you, it just had some hotels there. And you didn't even have pictures of the fucking hotel. You just hoped the hotel was good. And then you hoped the restaurant that was written in this printed out book was good. And now that they have all the information on the world, when it's organized quicker, they're like, fuck that, we can't. We should take them back to the Stone Age.

• 41:16Mark Gagnon?

  But look at it. You use AI and then you fall for this shit.

• 41:20Speaker 02

  GPT says.

• 41:21Mark Gagnon?

  They ax their AI and AI told them, he's a football player. Like, how are you gonna deny that?

• 41:26Speaker 02

  Says like, if you're taking it from a sample of like 25 to 29 year old guys, probably not more likely. But if it's an NFL player versus another extremely successful guy, an NFL player would be considerably more likely to beat you.

• 41:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay.

• 41:39Speaker 02

  So I'm.

• 41:40Speaker 00

  Now compare it to being in a lesbian relationship.

• 41:43Speaker 02

  I don't know if we have data on that. Let me see.

• 41:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. What has a higher rate of domestic violence? Dating a woman as a woman or dating an NFL player?

• 41:54Speaker 02

  I don't know. I mean, according to this, it says that separate academic survey said 250 domestic violence arrests per 100,000 NFL players.

• 42:03Speaker 00

  So what percentage is that?

• 42:05Speaker 02

  Pretty low. 250 arrests. I mean, that's just arrests also. So 53% of lesbian women

• 42:14Speaker 02

  reported domestic.

• 42:16Speaker 00

  Holy shit. The greatest act of violence towards women is being gay. What do you think about it statistically?

• 42:27Speaker 00

  53%?

• 42:28Speaker 02

  That's crazy. This is from 2016 CDC.

• 42:31Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 42:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:34Speaker 00

  Nah, that's crazy.

• 42:35Mark Gagnon?

  We need to lock the woman up.

• 42:36Speaker 02

  41% of heterosexual women.

• 42:38Speaker 00

  41%?

• 42:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, heterosexual women have reported intimate partner physical violence.

• 42:42Speaker 00

  Wow. So a 25% increase from that by going to lesbian. And the irony that you would always hear, you know, women that were like in these really fucked up abusive relationships with a man, and then they go, you know what, I don't even want to deal with a man because my safety is threatened. And then they date a woman and then it's even more. It's like, what the hell, man?

• 43:04Speaker 02

  But at least it's a fair fight, though.

• 43:05Speaker 00

  Says who? Somebody's lesbian's got hands.

• 43:09Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 43:10Speaker 02

  That's true, but compared to a guy, odds are, at least it's even.

• 43:14Speaker 00

  You're right. These men that are, that hit women are cowards. They're pieces of shit.

• 43:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:18Speaker 00

  They're garbage.

• 43:19Speaker 02

  They should be gay and, and fight other men.

• 43:23Speaker 00

  I don't think that guys are fighting each other, dude.

• 43:26Speaker 02

  No.

• 43:26Speaker 00

  I don't think the gay guys.

• 43:27Mark Gagnon?

  Can we see the rate of DV?

• 43:28Speaker 02

  Statistically, I don't think that's happening.

• 43:30Mark Gagnon?

  With gay men?

• 43:31Speaker 00

  We at least don't tell.

• 43:32Mark Gagnon?

  I bet you it's lower than heterosexual, really.

• 43:34Speaker 00

  No, 100%. Have you ever been to a gay bar?

• 43:37Mark Gagnon?

  It's just fun.

• 43:37Speaker 00

  It's, it's just fun.

• 43:39Mark Gagnon?

  Pure bliss.

• 43:40Speaker 00

  It really is.

• 43:41Mark Gagnon?

  You can make out what someone, someone else's dude. Fun times.

• 43:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:46Mark Gagnon?

  That shit happens at a straight or lesbian place.

• 43:50Speaker 00

  It's over, it's a fight.

• 43:50Mark Gagnon?

  Riot.

• 43:51Speaker 00

  Riot. Riot.

• 43:53Mark Gagnon?

  Wow.

• 43:53Speaker 02

  But it is, okay, so it actually says that for severe violence, gay men say 28%. Heterosexual men say 24%.

• 44:00Speaker 00

  So we are the lowest.

• 44:02Speaker 02

  We're the lowest, technically.

• 44:03Speaker 00

  So in terms of.

• 44:04Speaker 02

  Y'all. But if you count psychological aggression and coercive control, 51% of gay men report psychological aggression.

• 44:11Speaker 00

  What does that even mean? That's just poppers.

• 44:15Speaker 02

  Mind game.

• 44:15Speaker 00

  Now do it, now do it by race.

• 44:17Speaker 02

  Okay, no, no, no, no, no. We can't do the statistics.

• 44:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, don't do it by race. Whatever, whatever you do, don't look it up by race.

• 44:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, that'd be crazy. That's.

• 44:24Speaker 00

  That would be fucked up. Cause there's other circumstances that play a part.

• 44:28Mark Gagnon?

  One time, one time for Dejaun love, guys. Right?

• 44:33Speaker 00

  Mark, you were waiting. Go, go, go.

• 44:35Mark Gagnon?

  I'm still waiting for his low clap. We gotta give it up. This is, this guy is.

• 44:39Speaker 00

  That's not him.

• 44:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:41Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 44:42Speaker 02

  He's doing high knees. He's practicing.

• 44:44Mark Gagnon?

  Like you gotta even, just put on some muscle, bro. Your legs look like mine.

• 44:50Speaker 00

  Nah, you got a good little sprint. Okay, Mark, you said that you had some, you had some interesting moral quandaries for us.

• 44:57Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, I found a great little subreddit. It's very funny. It takes real life examples.

• 45:01Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 45:01Speaker 02

  And gives real life ethical dilemmas.

• 45:05Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 45:05Speaker 02

  Of real shit that's happened. So we can just go from the very top.

• 45:08Speaker 00

  I'm gonna do bad at this.

• 45:09Speaker 02

  Woman breaks into animal shelter to save her dog after her ex secretly surrendered him to be euthanized.

• 45:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, of course, that's okay.

• 45:17Speaker 02

  Stealing.

• 45:19Speaker 00

  I don't know if that's stealing.

• 45:20Speaker 02

  Breaking and entering.

• 45:21Mark Gagnon?

  But the ex stole the dog first. So you just stealing your goods back.

• 45:25Speaker 02

  Did the ex steal it? Did they?

• 45:27Speaker 00

  But why does she have to break and enter? Just go into the, the shelter during the day? Like you don't have to make this like a mission impossible. Like I'm sure if you walked into any dog shelter and was like, hey, that's actually my dog and my ex is crazy and he's trying to get our dog killed.

• 45:41Mark Gagnon?

  Oh yeah.

• 45:43Speaker 00

  Like doing it at night is a little bit, I want to be a hero.

• 45:45Speaker 02

  Based off more information, after months of searching for her dog Max, a woman was devastated to learn that her ex boyfriend surrendered him to a kill shelter where he was scheduled to be euthanized the next morning.

• 45:54Mark Gagnon?

  Oh.

• 45:54Speaker 02

  Arriving after the shelter had closed, she found the doors locked and desperate to save his life, she broke a window, disabled the alarm, searched the kennels till she found her dog and escaped with them before authorities arrived. Three days later, she turned herself in, faced felony burglary and theft, but her attorney proved through veterinary records that she was the dog's rightful owner, that her ex had illegally surrendered him out of spite.

• 46:15Speaker 00

  So this is the thing where like, this is actually kind of cool. The law doesn't really matter that much. You know, like there are justifications where you could break the law.

• 46:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:27Speaker 00

  Like this is what I enjoy about this. The law is not that rigid.

• 46:31Speaker 02

  Nah.

• 46:32Speaker 00

  In America, if you have a good justification, you can kind of get away with anything.

• 46:36Speaker 02

  And to your point, the judge dismissed the criminal charge against her, ordered Max returned her and issued a warrant for the ex boyfriend.

• 46:43Speaker 00

  There's a, there's a judge.

• 46:45Speaker 02

  But she did have to still pay the damages for the shelter.

• 46:47Speaker 00

  But I mean, that's reasonable. That's okay.

• 46:50Speaker 02

  I think that's, I think that's everyone.

• 46:51Speaker 00

  Fair.

• 46:52Speaker 02

  I think this has worked out.

• 46:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, worked out perfectly. Now, here's the thing. There's a judge, RIP, from Rhode Island. Judge Arribo, I think his name is.

• 47:02Speaker 02

  Frank Caprio, I think.

• 47:02Speaker 00

  Caprio.

• 47:03Speaker 02

  Caprio, yeah.

• 47:04Speaker 00

  Caprio. And.

• 47:05Speaker 02

  Cotton Providence.

• 47:06Speaker 00

  Son, he was amazing. He would have this, I think he was, I don't know if it was YouTube show or it was on actual TV or something like that, but if you got a speeding ticket or a parking ticket, but you had like cancer in your family or something, he would just be like, ah man, that sucks. And then you wouldn't have to pay it.

• 47:22Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Where did you guys hear this from?

• 47:23Speaker 00

  I watched his stuff all the time. Hey, what kind of a dog is that?

• 47:27Speaker 05

  You know, lots of ops.

• 47:29Speaker 00

  Well behaved.

• 47:31Speaker 02

  This guy's in there for sex trafficking, I think.

• 47:33Speaker 00

  No.

• 47:37Speaker 05

  No, she threatens me.

• 47:39Speaker 00

  Oh, that dog, you look at that beautiful dog.

• 47:43Speaker 00

  This is probably the worst example of what I'm talking about.

• 47:45Speaker 02

  You get the vibes, though. You get the, I didn't give you a banger clip.

• 47:48Speaker 00

  If you want the real good clips, it's the one that gets you emotional or like, there's a guy who has a special needs son and he drives him to all of his doctor's appointments and he got a speeding ticket or something or a parking ticket. Now, did he park in the wrong place? Yes. Or did he speed? Yes. But the judge goes, you know what, you're such a good guy. I'm not gonna punish you for this. And he has like, I guess, total jurisdiction on what, I don't know how, I don't know how it works.

• 48:14Mark Gagnon?

  Judges can do that.

• 48:14Speaker 00

  They got power, these judges.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  But it's always like speeding tickets and shit. I want to see one where it's a real violent crime. A guy goes in there for murder and the guy's like, oh, so what's your story? What's your thing? And then he's just like, oh, you know, a group in this area. He's like, oh, that's a bad area. And then just lets him off. I want to see that version.

• 48:31Speaker 00

  That happens a lot. I watch. Yeah, it's called Los Angeles. You could fucking take a shit on a woman's head while she's having lunch and then the judge goes, oh, it's not your fault. Yeah, it's not your fault. We want to be progressive. Go back out there.

• 48:44Speaker 02

  So we like it when it's just little traffic tickets.

• 48:46Speaker 00

  Look at the butt sniffing guy I sent you. Who's that?

• 48:50Speaker 00

  There's a serial butt sniffer.

• 48:51Speaker 02

  Is he in New York?

• 48:53Speaker 00

  I don't know where he is.

• 48:54Speaker 02

  I've seen a butt sniffer in New York.

• 48:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's a big fucking thing. Look at this guy. He can hear your ass.

• 49:00Speaker 02

  I know. Is this Shrek?

• 49:02Speaker 00

  Yo, he does have the Shrek ears.

• 49:04Speaker 02

  39 year old repeated sex offender dubbed the butt sniffer has been arrested again in Glendale through multiple butt sniffing incidents held without bond.

• 49:10Mark Gagnon?

  Wait a minute. Is he sniffing butts or is he sniffing seats?

• 49:15Speaker 00

  So this is.

• 49:16Mark Gagnon?

  After women leave.

• 49:17Speaker 00

  This is the exact thing I thought.

• 49:19Mark Gagnon?

  Sniffing butts.

• 49:20Speaker 00

  I'm glad that you brought this up, Al. Cause the exact reaction I had is, he's trying to go, he's trying to get it from the tap.

• 49:29Mark Gagnon?

  Okay, that's a little wrong.

• 49:30Speaker 00

  Can't do it. It's not.

• 49:34Speaker 02

  I mean, on the scale of awful things you could do to someone.

• 49:36Mark Gagnon?

  It's his nose making contact.

• 49:38Speaker 02

  According to this, it says he was acting suspiciously bending down around people.

• 49:44Speaker 02

  Two stores in Glendale, he was bending down and picking up stuff.

• 49:47Mark Gagnon?

  If his nose, if there's no contact being made.

• 49:51Speaker 00

  Well, this is actually, this is a good legal question that Al is positive. What right do you have to the air near a woman's ass? Can you go within a nanometer of her ass and smell? And is that still like your air? Are you entitled to that air?

• 50:06Speaker 02

  That's an interesting point.

• 50:07Mark Gagnon?

  It might make you uncomfortable, but I'm not doing anything wrong.

• 50:10Speaker 02

  The freedom to swing your fist stops where my nose begins, as they say.

• 50:14Speaker 00

  Can you stand next to some? For example, if I'm on an empty subway like I was many years ago on nine 11 and it was completely empty, brown guy sat right next to me. I don't know why.

• 50:25Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 50:27Speaker 00

  Wrong day to do that.

• 50:29Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 50:30Speaker 00

  But he had every right to choose that seat. I don't own the seat next to me, right? There's nothing wrong with that. We went a stop. I got out immediately and got the next subway.

• 50:37Speaker 02

  Maybe he was nervous. Maybe he was like, oh, I want to be here.

• 50:39Speaker 00

  He's like, he's like, it's fucking nine 11. I'm freaked out. I want to be there, you know? Obviously he's looking at me. He's like, you guys did it. And, uh, and so basically he's, he has that right to do. Is there like a rule against encroaching on someone's space?

• 50:54Speaker 02

  Technically, no. Standing close to someone in a public space is not a crime, even if it's not just uncomfortable.

• 51:00Mark Gagnon?

  I think he's wrongly accused, man.

• 51:02Speaker 02

  No, he's rightly accused.

• 51:04Mark Gagnon?

  If he didn't touch.

• 51:05Speaker 00

  If it's your girl.

• 51:08Mark Gagnon?

  I'm gonna be upset.

• 51:11Speaker 02

  But he was arrested on a parole violation.

• 51:14Speaker 00

  From butt sniffing. You had prior butt sniffs in California are allowed to break the law and just keep breaking it.

• 51:20Speaker 02

  Serial butt sniffing.

• 51:21Mark Gagnon?

  Because he's not breaking a real law. So they're like, oh, how can we really hold him for sniffing the air?

• 51:28Mark Gagnon?

  And what if he was tying his shoe? Maybe he's a bad shoe tire.

• 51:32Speaker 02

  That's, that's what he said.

• 51:33Mark Gagnon?

  You see? I don't know. He needs better lawyers.

• 51:37Speaker 02

  And if you have like an incredible sense of smell, this is something you can get away with all the time.

• 51:42Speaker 00

  His nose looked like it could fit in some cheeks too. It's like a dorsal fin. You see how like thin and pointy that is?

• 51:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, he was meant for it.

• 51:51Mark Gagnon?

  He looks like he can hear smells.

• 51:55Mark Gagnon?

  That shit is great.

• 51:56Speaker 00

  Now he hears the fart before it's out.

• 51:58Mark Gagnon?

  Oh.

• 51:59Speaker 00

  And then he goes for the sniff.

• 52:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's interesting.

• 52:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  I mean, is it illegal if your girl stands up and then you sniff the seat right after? Like if that's what he was doing, is that?

• 52:08Speaker 00

  No, that's not legal because that's your seat if you want it. And you can do whatever you want to that seat. I think so.

• 52:12Mark Gagnon?

  It's gross. It's disgusting, but technically it's not wrong. And if he's not making any contact with asses, technically it's not wrong. It's gross. It's disgusting.

• 52:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:25Mark Gagnon?

  I would probably hit him.

• 52:26Speaker 02

  Should we change the law?

• 52:28Speaker 00

  Can I ask a question? Are women allowed to try on thongs at like a clothing store?

• 52:35Speaker 02

  No.

• 52:36Speaker 00

  There's no way, right?

• 52:37Speaker 02

  No. I think the expectation is to try it on over your clothes. I think.

• 52:41Mark Gagnon?

  Then you don't know how it truly fits.

• 52:45Speaker 00

  But like, what a, what a disgusting thing. You gotta order underwear online, girls.

• 52:50Speaker 02

  I mean, we don't try on underwear. You go to the store, you know, you don't slide your hands on, you know what I mean? You just get them in a pack and you say, yeah, it's roughly my size.

• 52:58Mark Gagnon?

  But like thongs need to fit a certain way.

• 53:00Speaker 00

  Also, there's cost more when you get into like fancy lingerie. That's not something you could roll the dice on.

• 53:04Speaker 02

  That's a good point.

• 53:05Speaker 00

  And also if it doesn't fit you, can you return it?

• 53:08Speaker 02

  I bet you they have a strict no return policy.

• 53:10Speaker 00

  There's no way.

• 53:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't think they do.

• 53:13Speaker 00

  What about tit? I feel like you could return a bra.

• 53:16Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, you should be able to.

• 53:17Speaker 00

  Or try on a bra.

• 53:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think they do that. I think that's allowed.

• 53:21Mark Gagnon?

  What if it's a hot day? They be having under boob sweat.

• 53:24Speaker 02

  That's the same with any clothes.

• 53:25Speaker 00

  That would apply to any shirt or anything like that. So at that point, we have to just let it all go.

• 53:29Speaker 02

  Right?

• 53:30Speaker 00

  Okay, give me another one. I like these.

• 53:31Speaker 02

  Okay, um, I don't know what this is.

• 53:34Mark Gagnon?

  Ladies need to answer that though, because I want to know.

• 53:37Speaker 00

  That seems wretched.

• 53:39Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 53:40Speaker 02

  Oh, this is kind of an interesting hypothetical.

• 53:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 53:42Speaker 02

  The morality of keeping Pinocchio a prisoner to discover the secrets of the universe, medicine and economics.

• 53:47Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 53:48Speaker 02

  So you have Pinocchio tied up. He's strapped to a chair. He's not able to go anywhere. And you ask them, you ask him yes or no questions by a panel of scientists to ascertain the truth about the universe.

• 53:58Speaker 00

  But why does he know it?

• 53:59Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, this one's kind of.

• 54:00Speaker 02

  Every time Pinocchio.

• 54:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, but he would have to know something to lie about it. This is a dumb one because it's not real in reality. Pinocchio doesn't exist outside of Tel Aviv.

• 54:07Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, come on.

• 54:10Speaker 02

  Can you?

• 54:11Mark Gagnon?

  I caught that late. That's funny.

• 54:12Speaker 02

  Okay, wife celebrates her abusive husband's passing by throwing his ashes in the garbage.

• 54:19Speaker 02

  It is an interesting one.

• 54:20Speaker 00

  Totally fine.

• 54:21Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 54:22Speaker 02

  My only issue with it is that some guy is going to empty the garbage and be like, oh, what's all this dust in here? And he's handling human remains. So I think that's gross. Why is that gross?

• 54:31Speaker 00

  That guy has to have dog shit.

• 54:32Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 54:33Speaker 00

  There's dog shit in that garbage.

• 54:35Speaker 02

  But human remains is different. It's like, oh, I'm throwing a human body out versus like, oh, I'm touching dog.

• 54:39Speaker 00

  There's chicken wings in there. There's animal remains. There's everything is remains.

• 54:42Speaker 02

  Animal remains isn't the same as human.

• 54:43Speaker 00

  We all start as starlight.

• 54:47Speaker 00

  We're all stardust.

• 54:48Speaker 02

  We're all starlight.

• 54:49Speaker 00

  We're all starlight. At the end of the day, we're all starlight.

• 54:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. Light to light, dust to dust, as they say.

• 54:55Mark Gagnon?

  But like ash is like, it's just nothing.

• 55:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, kind of.

• 55:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:03Speaker 02

  But then also, I mean, this guy has a family, like you just bury him. You just bury him and just call it a day.

• 55:08Mark Gagnon?

  What do you mean? That's his wife.

• 55:09Speaker 00

  Do you know like in vampire movies where like when the vampire sees the light, their skin starts to get like flaky?

• 55:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 55:16Speaker 00

  Do you think when vampires saw black people's legs in the winter? They were like, you gotta get out of the sun.

• 55:25Speaker 02

  Do you think they're like?

• 55:25Mark Gagnon?

  One of us.

• 55:26Speaker 00

  Well, yeah.

• 55:27Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 55:27Speaker 00

  Dude, what were you out there in the sun, bro? You gotta learn the rules, man. You gotta learn the rules of this shit.

• 55:32Speaker 02

  No, dude, it's fucking. It's August, bro. You're good right now.

• 55:36Mark Gagnon?

  I know, yeah.

• 55:36Speaker 02

  October hits?

• 55:37Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. I ain't losing today though.

• 55:39Speaker 00

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• 57:08Speaker 00

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• 57:51Speaker 00

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• 58:34Speaker 00

  And while I'm still talking to you guys directly at home, I'd like to point out, I'm not bragging here at all. Honestly, this is a group win for all of us, right? It's because like when one of my picks wins, everybody wins if follows that pick. Okay? And so far I'm still undefeated on Kalshi. I have not lost on Kalshi. Not a single trade have I put in have I lost? Not one. I went with Alcaraz in round one. Some of you are like, oh, that's an obvious win. No, he's off for four months. Okay? Many people thought he was gonna totally get washed or he'd be broken or get re-injured. Doesn't matter. W, easy. I'm just telling you, we've continued the undefeated streak. I like to continue this for the entire year. Undefeated for an entire year on Kalshi would be absolutely amazing. Now let's talk about this US Open. Alex thinks that it's going to be an American.

• 59:18Speaker 00

  Ben Shelton, I think is down 2%. You know, I think he's, there's an 8% chance of winning right now. Listen, this is Alex. Okay? This is what Alex is saying. I can't tell you what I'm feeling just yet. When I'm feeling it, you'll see a postage and you'll know. But Alex says he thinks Benny Shelts is going to make it happen. Even though he's going down 2%, he's at 8% right now. So that's what it's going to look like. Now let's get back to the boys.

• 59:42Speaker 02

  So we all know it's unethical to, uh, fight a child. Right?

• 59:48Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 59:49Speaker 02

  Okay. Let's just roll.

• 59:50Mark Gagnon?

  Sometimes there's some badass.

• 59:52Speaker 00

  Can I, can we go on this? Fighting a single child is immoral and unethical. But once there's like a group of them.

• 1:00:02Mark Gagnon?

  What about Cat Williams?

• 1:00:05Speaker 00

  Only because he lost was that okay? If he would have won, if he would have won, that's a problem.

• 1:00:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a lose lose for him.

• 1:00:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:00:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:11Mark Gagnon?

  All right.

• 1:00:12Speaker 02

  So this guy's riding his motorcycle somewhere in South Asia and a group of kids try to scam him. I don't exactly know how the scam works, but they accost him and then this is what he does.

• 1:00:22Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:00:27Mark Gagnon?

  Whoa. The messy jerseys. Oh, he busted out the sandal?

• 1:00:40Speaker 00

  I mean, he was being a pain in the ass, that kid.

• 1:00:41Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:42Speaker 02

  So what is the morality of attacking a kid because his friends try to scam?

• 1:00:45Speaker 00

  You shouldn't do it. Just keep biking. You shouldn't do it.

• 1:00:47Mark Gagnon?

  Really?

• 1:00:48Speaker 00

  You shouldn't do it.

• 1:00:48Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, I'm off on this one.

• 1:00:50Speaker 02

  You gotta just blast through, right?

• 1:00:51Speaker 00

  Well, we know what you would do to kids. I think that...

• 1:00:54Mark Gagnon?

  No, but they're like, looking like they're about to attack him. Like, what if they, one, brings out a weapon and shit like that? You don't wait for some shit to happen.

• 1:01:01Speaker 00

  When he busted out the sandal, that is an, that is an act of violence in that part of the world.

• 1:01:06Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:07Speaker 02

  Massive disrespect.

• 1:01:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's like a gun to them.

• 1:01:12Speaker 00

  It is a gun to them. That's the closest thing they have to a weapon.

• 1:01:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:15Speaker 00

  Right?

• 1:01:16Speaker 02

  If he had a gun, he would have pulled that out.

• 1:01:18Speaker 00

  If he had a gun, he would have pulled it out.

• 1:01:19Mark Gagnon?

  I think they're trying to steal his bike.

• 1:01:21Speaker 02

  So the story, more info that I've found is that they took the keys out of his bike. They wouldn't give him the keys back unless they gave him money.

• 1:01:29Mark Gagnon?

  Ah, okay, so they're trying to rob him.

• 1:01:31Speaker 02

  Basically.

• 1:01:31Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Toss these little niggas.

• 1:01:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. Honestly, if you're trying to steal the bike, I think Al's kinda right here. I'm not gonna lie.

• 1:01:39Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, you could defend yourself. I don't know if you need a helicopter to get in the bush.

• 1:01:42Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, he's lucky he ain't getting fucking back slapped. I would have given a couple of them.

• 1:01:46Speaker 00

  He had to throw him over his own bike, though.

• 1:01:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, on the bike, too, is hard to do.

• 1:01:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:01:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like, kind of agile. It's really impressive, actually.

• 1:01:54Speaker 00

  Yeah. Why don't you go to the next one, because that seems a little bit more interesting.

• 1:01:57Speaker 02

  This one's interesting. So, this girl says, "I look so..."

• 1:01:59Speaker 00

  A black girl said, you have to say this. Black girl tweets, go, Alex.

• 1:02:03Mark Gagnon?

  "I look so..." Why the fuck I'm able to say this?

• 1:02:08Speaker 00

  Black people are allowed to say more words than everybody else.

• 1:02:13Speaker 02

  He's in the rules, dude. It's in the Constitution, bro. I don't...

• 1:02:16Mark Gagnon?

  Wasn't there just some black chick that got kicked off of reality TV for saying this exact word?

• 1:02:20Speaker 00

  Black people do not get kicked off of...

• 1:02:21Mark Gagnon?

  She said she had these looking eyes.

• 1:02:22Speaker 00

  Black people do not get kicked off of anything for saying anything. The, one other black privilege, you can say more words than everybody else.

• 1:02:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:30Speaker 00

  You can kinda say most...

• 1:02:31Mark Gagnon?

  About just one more, guys.

• 1:02:32Speaker 00

  No, you can say kind of everybody else's offensive words, too.

• 1:02:35Speaker 02

  Especially if you're just reading it.

• 1:02:37Speaker 00

  Without a doubt, because they're just shocked you can read, like... They don't take offense to it at that point. The racist, they are the racist people. Racist people are just shocked.

• 1:02:49Mark Gagnon?

  You asshole.

• 1:02:50Speaker 00

  No, no, not me. I'm not shocked. I watch you read every single day. Right?

• 1:02:56Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:02:57Speaker 00

  Hey, that's what I do. So good at reading.

• 1:03:04Speaker 00

  But in this situation...

• 1:03:06Mark Gagnon?

  So many levels, I wouldn't punch you.

• 1:03:07Speaker 00

  No, no, this is, you guys, one of the freedoms, I think, for black people in America, because of what you've endured. You've endured so much unfair, disgusting racism, that you're allowed to be racist with less of a punishment.

• 1:03:22Mark Gagnon?

  Black people can't be racist. I don't know why, but I run with that.

• 1:03:25Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 1:03:26Speaker 02

  Hundred percent.

• 1:03:27Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 1:03:27Speaker 02

  So with that said, take it away.

• 1:03:29Speaker 00

  Read it. Prove it.

• 1:03:31Mark Gagnon?

  Bleep me, uh, mom. "I look so [bleep] ugly with no lashes."

• 1:03:36Speaker 02

  And this is a black girl that said and posted it. And so, allegedly, an Asian girl responded and said this.

• 1:03:47Speaker 00

  Go, Al. You can read this.

• 1:03:48Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, man.

• 1:03:49Speaker 00

  And if you wanted, because it's racist...

• 1:03:53Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, this one's bad.

• 1:03:54Speaker 00

  Let me just get this out. Because she's saying something racist, and an equal and opposite force, due to the laws of physics, is expected. You can read it in her accent if you wanted to. Just because of the laws of physics!

• 1:04:10Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, you trying to get me kicked off the pod. I see what's happening. I see what's happening right now.

• 1:04:14Speaker 00

  Not at all. I'm just saying...

• 1:04:17Mark Gagnon?

  You trying to...

• 1:04:18Speaker 00

  Who, who invented that?

• 1:04:19Mark Gagnon?

  You trying to shame Gilisby out of Flager.

• 1:04:23Speaker 00

  Nguyen said that there's an equal and opposite reaction for every action.

• 1:04:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:28Speaker 00

  Therefore, if you wanted to read it in her accent...

• 1:04:32Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, this is the worst version of the word. This is worse than without the Y.

• 1:04:39Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:04:40Speaker 00

  Our audio listeners don't know what you're saying.

• 1:04:43Mark Gagnon?

  N-I-G-G-E-R-Y.

• 1:04:46Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 1:04:46Mark Gagnon?

  That's worse than...

• 1:04:48Speaker 00

  If you feel comfortable, what is the tweet?

• 1:04:50Mark Gagnon?

  I don't even feel compensated.

• 1:04:52Speaker 00

  Can you feel comfortable saying the one about them?

• 1:04:59Mark Gagnon?

  That is cute.

• 1:05:02Speaker 00

  Honestly?

• 1:05:03Speaker 02

  That's an excellent point.

• 1:05:04Speaker 00

  And, and when it has been said historically, it's kind of cute.

• 1:05:09Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:10Speaker 00

  It's a cutie, it's a cutesy thing.

• 1:05:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think we've mentioned this on the show before, but it is a synonym.

• 1:05:14Speaker 00

  For?

• 1:05:15Speaker 02

  For like, getting something taken out of like, your armor.

• 1:05:20Speaker 00

  What would be taken out of your armor?

• 1:05:22Speaker 02

  Like a chunk.

• 1:05:25Speaker 00

  So, let me ask you.

• 1:05:27Speaker 02

  I don't wanna say it.

• 1:05:27Speaker 00

  When there's a big piece of, of your armor that's removed, or hurt or tarnished, it's a chunk of your armor has been removed.

• 1:05:35Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:35Speaker 00

  When it's a tiny little sliver, when it's a tiny little sliver...

• 1:05:40Speaker 02

  If you take a chopstick to the shoulder, it's just like a little...

• 1:05:45Speaker 00

  It's a what? What is it referring to?

• 1:05:47Speaker 02

  Just a little...

• 1:05:48Mark Gagnon?

  Why are you guys afraid to say it when you're actually talking about the actual thing?

• 1:05:51Speaker 02

  Because it's all getting blurred, alright? The lines are getting fucking crossed.

• 1:05:54Speaker 00

  They don't see blurred. Even just saying that is racist. That's more racist than even saying the word to assume it'd be blurred, because your vision gets more refined as you shrink the...

• 1:06:04Speaker 02

  The wires are getting crossed here.

• 1:06:05Mark Gagnon?

  Oh my gosh, same, girl. I look...

• 1:06:10Speaker 00

  Say it. Say it. In your Australian, Asian lady boy.

• 1:06:16Mark Gagnon?

  I'm an Australian, Asian guy.

• 1:06:18Speaker 00

  You're an Australian lady boy.

• 1:06:20Speaker 02

  They're gonna let Chinese down in Australia. It makes sense.

• 1:06:22Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, I'm so...

• 1:06:23Speaker 00

  You just said the fucking...

• 1:06:25Mark Gagnon?

  "I'm so enery and ugly without mods." Yo, that is crazy.

• 1:06:33Mark Gagnon?

  She didn't even wanna say it that way.

• 1:06:37Mark Gagnon?

  I'm leaving. It was this shit.

• 1:06:41Speaker 00

  Wow, so that's the worst version of the word, even if it makes you feel uncomfortable to say. Interesting. That's very interesting.

• 1:06:47Mark Gagnon?

  Wow, adding a Y to it. Oof.

• 1:06:49Speaker 02

  But can you use this racism to combat other racism? Is this even? Is this, is this moral to use a retaliatory slur?

• 1:06:56Mark Gagnon?

  I don't think, I don't think it's even.

• 1:06:59Speaker 02

  You think one word is worse?

• 1:07:00Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:02Speaker 00

  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You think one word is worse, but you can't define how much a word hurts another group of people.

• 1:07:09Speaker 02

  Hmm, that's a good point.

• 1:07:10Speaker 00

  That's the same thing as white people saying to you, "Oh, it's just a word. Why can't we all say a word?"

• 1:07:14Mark Gagnon?

  You got a point. You got a point.

• 1:07:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, this is probably super hurtful to her, hearing that word.

• 1:07:21Mark Gagnon?

  I'm gonna just keep dusting myself right now.

• 1:07:25Mark Gagnon?

  He's not like, we're on a podcast, so we talk?

• 1:07:27Speaker 02

  Nah, I'm good. Pass.

• 1:07:31Mark Gagnon?

  I'm just saying myself. Pass.

• 1:07:32Speaker 00

  Mark, can you say it?

• 1:07:37Speaker 02

  Just move on.

• 1:07:38Speaker 00

  Say it, Mark.

• 1:07:39Speaker 02

  I gotta move on.

• 1:07:39Speaker 00

  Come on.

• 1:07:40Speaker 02

  Okay, John Vertholz says, "Fear of pit bulls is dog racism."

• 1:07:47Speaker 02

  Alright?

• 1:07:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, y'all motherfuckers, man.

• 1:07:50Speaker 00

  So this is a good example, this is a good example of what we were talking about earlier. A pit bull is not necessarily a violent dog.

• 1:08:00Mark Gagnon?

  No, what dog is born violent?

• 1:08:02Speaker 00

  No dog is born violent.

• 1:08:03Mark Gagnon?

  Why are you smiling? Why are you laughing, boy?

• 1:08:05Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no, they're not born violent. Now, that being said, if we looked at the data of dog attacks, it might skew in the direction of pit bull. In the same way that like, a lesbian's not born violent, but if we look at the data of domestic violence, it might skew in that direction.

• 1:08:23Mark Gagnon?

  Okay, okay, okay.

• 1:08:23Speaker 00

  So maybe it's like, for example, if you have a small, little, defenseless dog, and you're trying to avoid the pit bulls at the dog park, is that racism? Or are you just trying to protect it? Is that the same thing as moving your purse from one side to the next? As you're walking down the street? Are these the same things?

• 1:08:44Mark Gagnon?

  I think they might be. I think they might be.

• 1:08:47Speaker 00

  What do you think, Al?

• 1:08:50Speaker 00

  It's fucking crazy.

• 1:08:51Speaker 02

  It is. It's racist. It's dog racist.

• 1:08:53Speaker 00

  It's dog racist. Is it dog racism?

• 1:08:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, you try to remove your dog at the dog park, that's racist. You say, "Oh, I don't want my dogs playing with these dogs from this side of town."

• 1:09:01Mark Gagnon?

  You know what? I'm on board. I'm on board. It is dog racism.

• 1:09:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:06Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:07Speaker 02

  Right?

• 1:09:08Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:09:08Speaker 00

  It's dog, but dog racism would mean the dog is being racist.

• 1:09:14Mark Gagnon?

  No, it's racism to war.

• 1:09:16Speaker 02

  Every dog is racist.

• 1:09:18Speaker 00

  Honestly, I didn't think that that was the case. My dog, Sabi, is like the kindest, sweetest, golden little...

• 1:09:25Speaker 02

  Don't try to couch it.

• 1:09:26Speaker 00

  I'm being honestly the kindest, sweetest, golden... My dog won't step foot on Canal Street. Won't even, the second we approach Canal, Bar will go, "Rrrr, rrrr, rrrr, rrrr, rrrr, rrrr." And it's just moving away, it's just, no, no, no.

• 1:09:41Speaker 02

  Racism's a learned behavior.

• 1:09:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:09:48Speaker 00

  You think I'm teaching my dog?

• 1:09:51Speaker 02

  I don't know. Where is your golden doodle?

• 1:09:53Speaker 00

  You're delicious to some people.

• 1:09:55Speaker 02

  You think I'm teaching my dog that?

• 1:09:56Speaker 00

  Why would your dog be all of a sudden afraid of Asians? Who? It's all Africans selling shit on Canal Street. What are you talking about?

• 1:10:02Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:10:03Speaker 00

  Why would you go Asian?

• 1:10:04Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, wait.

• 1:10:05Speaker 00

  Dude, dude.

• 1:10:07Speaker 02

  No, dude.

• 1:10:09Speaker 00

  Dude, you really leaked some shit about you. And I'm gonna point my finger at you while I say it.

• 1:10:16Mark Gagnon?

  And I'll point it too.

• 1:10:18Speaker 02

  I'll point it too.

• 1:10:19Speaker 00

  What's the last time you saw an Asian person on Canal Street? That's like from fucking the 90s.

• 1:10:23Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:24Speaker 00

  Canal Street is all Africans selling the best knockoff Nikes you've ever seen in your life. The best AirPods, the best everything.

• 1:10:30Speaker 02

  So who is your dog racist against?

• 1:10:32Mark Gagnon?

  That's such cheap racism, the old racism. Put some work into it.

• 1:10:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's low hanging fruit racism. What is your dog racist against?

• 1:10:41Speaker 00

  At this point, I don't know.

• 1:10:44Speaker 00

  At this point, it feels like a street, to be honest with you. I couldn't pinpoint.

• 1:10:47Mark Gagnon?

  It's just the street.

• 1:10:48Speaker 00

  It might be the street.

• 1:10:49Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:50Speaker 00

  I don't know. If it's the open air Air Force One bizarre.

• 1:10:53Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Dog, you know. Upstanding doggason. And he doesn't like people doing crime. And you know what? They're selling fake stuff.

• 1:11:03Speaker 02

  And that pisses your dog off?

• 1:11:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, it could be that. Honestly, it could be that.

• 1:11:07Mark Gagnon?

  Like, yeah.

• 1:11:08Speaker 00

  It could be that.

• 1:11:09Speaker 02

  He's a capitalist. Maybe dogs are racist against the wrong people is all I'm saying. Yo. Black people don't really hurt dogs that much.

• 1:11:16Speaker 00

  Wait a minute. Frankie barked at me when I came in today and I felt the way about that shit.

• 1:11:21Mark Gagnon?

  Really?

• 1:11:22Speaker 00

  What? And what was the bark?

• 1:11:25Mark Gagnon?

  Bark? What?

• 1:11:27Speaker 02

  Wait, was it that? Was it that?

• 1:11:30Mark Gagnon?

  Bark?

• 1:11:31Speaker 02

  What is that?

• 1:11:33Speaker 00

  That feels very hard. Yo. You are dressed like you fight dog.

• 1:11:37Mark Gagnon?

  I know. I am 2005.

• 1:11:40Speaker 00

  You are dressed from back in the day, bro.

• 1:11:43Mark Gagnon?

  I do have it. I do have a look.

• 1:11:44Speaker 00

  This is crazy. The fucking G units sneakers.

• 1:11:47Mark Gagnon?

  I know. Fucking tall tee. Like, I really went for it.

• 1:11:50Speaker 00

  And everything. This is very.

• 1:11:52Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:11:53Speaker 00

  Yeah. He had every reason. Frankie had every reason to check you walking in.

• 1:11:58Mark Gagnon?

  She barked with the Y at the end, bro.

• 1:11:59Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 1:12:00Mark Gagnon?

  She barked with the Y.

• 1:12:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:12:03Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:12:04Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:05Speaker 00

  Damn. If you could translate what the bark was. Can you say it for us?

• 1:12:10Mark Gagnon?

  So, this guy, he's right. John, what's his last name?

• 1:12:14Speaker 00

  Bernthal.

• 1:12:14Mark Gagnon?

  Bernthal. He's right.

• 1:12:15Speaker 02

  Dog racism is real if you're being prejudiced against pit bulls. The next time a pit bull sits next to you on the train, you gotta just be like.

• 1:12:21Speaker 00

  Yo, who's not scared of pit bulls though, deadass? It's only people who own pit bulls that aren't scared of them. Everyone else is scared, right? We can acknowledge that.

• 1:12:28Speaker 02

  They got something in their eyes. They got human eyes, you know?

• 1:12:31Speaker 00

  Is it the eyes to you?

• 1:12:32Speaker 02

  Then they lock in on you.

• 1:12:33Speaker 00

  It's the jaw. Like, they're always clenched. Like, they're ready to go. They're beautiful dogs. Like, I wish I wasn't afraid of them, but I am.

• 1:12:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, there's just too many stories of them snapping and I'm like.

• 1:12:45Speaker 00

  And they'll let go.

• 1:12:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:47Speaker 00

  Like, once they lock on, you could, you ever see the guys in the park where they raise the, they lock on to a bone or whatever, they raise it up in the air and they're just suspended in the air?

• 1:12:55Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. That's true.

• 1:12:56Mark Gagnon?

  I heard you guys put your finger up their ass and then they let go.

• 1:12:58Speaker 00

  Yo, this is more gay propaganda.

• 1:13:01Mark Gagnon?

  I heard that. I heard that. I heard they let go. He's just.

• 1:13:05Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:13:05Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, but everybody lets go if you put your finger up their ass. Like, there's gotta be a few steps before that you could do.

• 1:13:11Speaker 02

  They don't bring that up with sharks though.

• 1:13:12Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:13:14Speaker 02

  With sharks, they say you gotta punch them in the nose. They never bring a finger in their assholes at all.

• 1:13:18Speaker 00

  Isn't that interesting? Somebody wanted to finger a dog ass.

• 1:13:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, he was like, you got a perfect shot.

• 1:13:22Speaker 00

  To even invent that.

• 1:13:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:24Speaker 00

  Like, you're telling me that they tried every other thing. Hit him on the neck. Cesar Millan, the dog trainer, the dog whisperer?

• 1:13:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:13:30Speaker 00

  Never once, never once was he fucking shockering up a pit bull to get him to release.

• 1:13:37Speaker 02

  There was a movie I watched back in the day of the Huskies that were snowmushing.

• 1:13:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:41Speaker 02

  And the guy had approved to the Huskies that he was like the alpha of the pack, so he bit him on the ear. And that's how he started dominance. But it would have been a very different movie.

• 1:13:48Mark Gagnon?

  You white people are weird.

• 1:13:49Speaker 02

  A very different movie if he had a finger in the dog's ass. Be like, nah, I'm the alpha. I'm the number one.

• 1:13:56Speaker 00

  Right?

• 1:13:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. But if you biting a dog on the ear, what else are you doing to that dog in private?

• 1:14:01Speaker 00

  Oh, that's the thing that's weird to you in this conversation?

• 1:14:07Speaker 00

  To me, that's the most natural thing to do to a dog. That's what another dog would do.

• 1:14:10Mark Gagnon?

  Just nibble on the ear? That might have been a turnoff.

• 1:14:13Speaker 00

  Oh, you think it's flirting?

• 1:14:14Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. I like a little nibble on my ear. That should get me a little chubby on there, you know?

• 1:14:19Speaker 02

  Good point.

• 1:14:20Speaker 00

  I don't think we talk enough about cutting the dog's ears to make them look aesthetically pleasing.

• 1:14:24Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:14:25Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that is crazy.

• 1:14:26Speaker 00

  Yeah. The dog circumcision that we got going on is a little bit crazy.

• 1:14:29Speaker 02

  And the tails.

• 1:14:30Mark Gagnon?

  I didn't know, I didn't know my TC, I didn't know her tail was cut.

• 1:14:33Speaker 00

  No way.

• 1:14:34Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:34Speaker 02

  How'd you find out?

• 1:14:35Speaker 00

  I don't like that, bro.

• 1:14:36Mark Gagnon?

  Cause all poodles, their tails are really longer, but people just don't like the long tail. So, almost every poodle, their tail's cut.

• 1:14:43Speaker 00

  That's insane.

• 1:14:44Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:45Speaker 00

  That's insane.

• 1:14:46Speaker 02

  Why is it insane?

• 1:14:47Speaker 00

  Talk to me.

• 1:14:48Speaker 02

  No, I'm curious.

• 1:14:49Speaker 00

  Nah, cause you got a hot take.

• 1:14:50Speaker 02

  Nah, cause you bring up circumcision.

• 1:14:51Speaker 00

  You trying to make me say it.

• 1:14:53Speaker 02

  I've been saying circumcision's crazy the whole time.

• 1:14:55Speaker 00

  It is crazy. It is crazy.

• 1:14:57Speaker 02

  So why are people doing it?

• 1:14:58Speaker 00

  Because they don't want a disgusting dick. No, bro. Yeah, but if all of our dicks are disgusting, it's normal.

• 1:15:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:04Speaker 00

  So, we just have, one generation has to make, take the stand.

• 1:15:08Mark Gagnon?

  Too far gone.

• 1:15:09Speaker 02

  Make it illegal. What if they made it illegal? Circumcision is illegal.

• 1:15:13Speaker 00

  But then there's religious freedom. The Jews and the Muzzies would do it.

• 1:15:16Mark Gagnon?

  Hmm.

• 1:15:16Speaker 02

  Alright, you can get a religious exemption, but anyone else, you gotta prove it. You gotta prove you are Jewish or Muslim.

• 1:15:21Speaker 00

  How do you fucking prove you're Jewish or Muslim? You just fucking blow up some innocent people? Is that what you need to do? How, how do you prove that? How can you possibly prove that?

• 1:15:32Speaker 02

  There's other ways. You bring them a pork sandwich, be like, guys, they don't want lunch. And if they take it, boom, no circumcision allowed.

• 1:15:38Speaker 00

  I guess that's a little less racist than I said.

• 1:15:42Speaker 00

  That's way more practical. That is way more practical.

• 1:15:45Speaker 02

  You can bait them with pork, is all I'm saying.

• 1:15:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, and then we herd more animals, Mark.

• 1:15:49Speaker 02

  Okay, alright. Let's just move on.

• 1:15:50Speaker 00

  We just heard more animals.

• 1:15:52Speaker 02

  Okay, what is the morality of this? Alright, this is a guy that went out drinking late, loses his wallet, and he gets a text the next morning. Hello, sir, I found your wallet. I go, I go now to give police station at Blank Avenue and you pick up there. I take $5 from wallet to buy hot dog. I am hungry and you owe me. I save you. Have a good day.

• 1:16:12Speaker 00

  So, here's the thing. The only issue I have with this is you owe me. I save you. If he writes that whole text and it's just, I am hungry, have a good day. I am hungry, sorry. I'm so sorry. I am hungry.

• 1:16:32Speaker 02

  It's the entitlement.

• 1:16:32Speaker 00

  Have a good, you owe me.

• 1:16:36Speaker 00

  What do you mean I owe you?

• 1:16:37Mark Gagnon?

  But it's saying the quiet part out loud. It's like, this person could have just stole your shit.

• 1:16:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:16:43Mark Gagnon?

  And the fact that he's being good and returning your shit, you kinda owe, like.

• 1:16:47Speaker 02

  A little bit.

• 1:16:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, but like, no one really likes when you say the quiet part out loud.

• 1:16:51Speaker 02

  It's like the whole thing.

• 1:16:52Mark Gagnon?

  That's why he texted.

• 1:16:53Speaker 00

  Yeah. But you know what I mean? Like, when you see it in a text, it's just as loud as all the other words. So, you, you like, object to it a little bit.

• 1:17:01Speaker 02

  Yeah. I think this is a, you played yourself. Cause I've lost a wallet. They returned it to me. I gave him a hundred bucks.

• 1:17:08Speaker 00

  Well, that's the thing. You're going, so what this is, this is the autograph.

• 1:17:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:17:14Speaker 00

  You ever go to a restaurant, they auto gratuity 16%?

• 1:17:17Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 1:17:17Speaker 00

  And it's like, you gotta do it cause Europeans eat there. But now you're fucked.

• 1:17:22Speaker 02

  Cause I was gonna do 20.

• 1:17:23Speaker 00

  I was gonna do more. You lowballed yourself and the fact that you didn't have faith in me to tip you now is a little bit insulting.

• 1:17:34Speaker 00

  Like, you, what is it called? You took the, uh.

• 1:17:36Mark Gagnon?

  Cat.

• 1:17:37Speaker 00

  No, yeah, I'm gonna overtip, but like.

• 1:17:40Mark Gagnon?

  It's cat cause they have the additional line and now you're like, oh, I'm taking a stand now.

• 1:17:44Speaker 00

  But additional's crazy.

• 1:17:45Speaker 02

  You wouldn't feel that way? You go to a restaurant, hey, we automatically include in 16%.

• 1:17:50Mark Gagnon?

  Tipping 13, stop. Chokes, jokes, no. I overtip. You know I overtip.

• 1:17:54Speaker 00

  Why do you do that?

• 1:17:55Mark Gagnon?

  Cause you gotta make up for the stereotype.

• 1:17:58Speaker 00

  Stereotype?

• 1:17:59Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Stereotype that black people tip that.

• 1:18:01Speaker 00

  Do you think not?

• 1:18:02Mark Gagnon?

  Overcompensate.

• 1:18:03Speaker 00

  But like, do you think not tipping is like, like, how would that Asian girl describe it? Like?

• 1:18:11Speaker 02

  She's a proprietor of a noodle restaurant.

• 1:18:13Speaker 00

  She's very European-y.

• 1:18:14Mark Gagnon?

  That's what she was saying.

• 1:18:17Mark Gagnon?

  They don't understand the customs.

• 1:18:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:18:20Mark Gagnon?

  Low trust society over there.

• 1:18:21Speaker 00

  Low trust. Yeah. I don't know. I, I, I, listen, I get why especially like tourist destinations do it. Because if like 80% of the people coming in are not from America and you can make nothing working the whole day and they don't. Europeans don't know how little waiters make.

• 1:18:36Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:37Speaker 00

  Like they genuinely are unaware. Europeans think waiters are making 20 an hour and you're supposed to tip 20%. So in their brains, they're like, this is fucking crazy.

• 1:18:45Mark Gagnon?

  Crazy, yeah.

• 1:18:46Speaker 00

  If they knew that waiters were literally making $2 an hour. I'm sure that they would feel obliged to.

• 1:18:53Speaker 02

  Tip a couple of euros in there, help you out.

• 1:18:55Mark Gagnon?

  With internet, social media, do you think they still don't know?

• 1:18:58Speaker 00

  I don't think they know how little. I think they, they assume that the, the waiters live off tips. I don't think they know that it's, they literally, the tip is baked into the wage. According to like our legal system or taxation system. I literally, I think if you told them that, they would, because they're like a, let's help everybody out society. I don't understand why they wouldn't.

• 1:19:22Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 1:19:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. But it's tricky though, because if you're a waiter at a restaurant, you're covered by the, no, sorry, waiter at a hotel restaurant. You're covered by the hotel union.

• 1:19:34Mark Gagnon?

  Oh.

• 1:19:34Speaker 00

  So you gotta make hotel union wages. So you're making 15, 20 an hour.

• 1:19:41Speaker 02

  And we're still tipping 20%?

• 1:19:42Speaker 00

  And we're tipping, they're double dipping.

• 1:19:44Speaker 02

  I didn't know that.

• 1:19:45Mark Gagnon?

  I did not know that one.

• 1:19:46Speaker 00

  That, now unless the restaurant is one of those things that like can operate independently from the hotel. But if the restaurant is like owned by the hotel or whatever.

• 1:19:53Mark Gagnon?

  I'm gonna ask about that.

• 1:19:54Speaker 00

  But that, if, if.

• 1:19:56Mark Gagnon?

  And if that's the case, they probably don't get the tip directly. Probably on some pool situation.

• 1:20:00Speaker 00

  But now most places do the pool thing and everybody gets tipped out, even like the chefs and shit gets tipped out.

• 1:20:06Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, really?

• 1:20:07Speaker 00

  But like, they're not making $2 an hour.

• 1:20:10Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:10Speaker 00

  Hmm. Something fishy going on.

• 1:20:12Mark Gagnon?

  Sounds off.

• 1:20:13Speaker 00

  It's almost now to the point where like the waiters are getting screwed.

• 1:20:17Speaker 02

  Oh, because they're sharing for service.

• 1:20:19Speaker 00

  With people who are making.

• 1:20:22Speaker 02

  A salary.

• 1:20:22Speaker 00

  A salary, let's put it salary over livable wage. When it's like they're, the waiters are taking the risk. They're coming to work every day going, I might make $0. Or if it's busy, I'll make a lot of money. But they're taking on the risk, not the restaurant. The chefs are not taking on the risk. They're making a salary.

• 1:20:39Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:39Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:20:40Mark Gagnon?

  We need to be more European-y.

• 1:20:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, we gotta be more European-y.

• 1:20:43Mark Gagnon?

  What do you mean? Like just get rid of tips and just pay people? Hey.

• 1:20:46Speaker 02

  I actually like that. You ever go to a restaurant, they have it on the menu? We don't tip, we pair servers a wage. The money is like put into the price of the dish.

• 1:20:54Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, Sugarfish I go to and I like that. They give you just, whoa, every time I walk in, I know exactly what I gotta pay.

• 1:21:00Speaker 02

  Who does that screw over?

• 1:21:01Speaker 00

  I think that that only works when the majority of restaurants have a tipping culture. Because, excuse me, because like when you go to Europe, the service is horrible. It's horrible. Any place where they don't rely on tips of service is fucking atrocious. Like there's no accommodation to anything. Like, it's like they're doing you a favor if you ask for mayo for the fries, like.

• 1:21:23Speaker 02

  I save you, you owe me.

• 1:21:24Speaker 00

  Exactly. So like, that's the energy they have. I save you, you owe me.

• 1:21:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:30Speaker 00

  Right? And it's like, so a few restaurants can have the no tipping culture because they're protected by the idea of how you should behave in a restaurant.

• 1:21:40Speaker 02

  So then you feel like you got a gift.

• 1:21:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:43Speaker 00

  It's like socialism. It works for a few years until the whole thing is bankrupt and falls apart. Yo, the first like five to 10 years of socialism.

• 1:21:51Speaker 02

  Fire.

• 1:21:52Speaker 00

  Is lit.

• 1:21:53Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:54Speaker 00

  And then you run out of money. But the first five to 10, all the people who've been pushing socialism are like, I told you.

• 1:22:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:01Speaker 00

  Isn't this fire?

• 1:22:02Mark Gagnon?

  Knicks championships.

• 1:22:04Speaker 00

  Exactly. No, no one's saying the first of five, 10 doesn't work. But after five to 10, we need to invade a Muslim country to afford this shit. And we just got ahead of it.

• 1:22:14Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:16Speaker 00

  Maybe that's how we're getting ahead. Like maybe the, maybe the Pentagon is going like, listen, we're gonna go socialist, you know, it is what it is. So we gotta invade like the second biggest oil reserves in the world and just make sure we secure it.

• 1:22:28Speaker 02

  We need to own all this shit. It's the only way.

• 1:22:29Speaker 00

  We need to own this. You know what I mean? Like if we're gonna do the Norway model, we gotta have some natural gas.

• 1:22:34Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:35Speaker 02

  Now, on the flip side, let's say you're down on your luck. You don't have a lot of money. You're just struggling. Maybe you're like 18 years old. Your parents kicked you out. You find a wallet on the ground. Got a hundred dollars in it, all in fives. You return it, do you take $5 and shoot the guy a text, be like, hey, by the way, hooked you up?

• 1:22:52Speaker 00

  I've done this, by the way. I returned an old woman's purse. I found the purse, returned it. My friend joined me. He's like, I'm like, I'm going to this woman's house. He's like, I'll come with you. I returned the purse. The purse has crazy money in it.

• 1:23:07Mark Gagnon?

  It worked.

• 1:23:07Speaker 00

  I counted it. Returned to her. She gives me 20 and him 20. I'm like, first of all, this motherfucker didn't even find it. I don't even know why he's getting the same as me. He's along for the ride.

• 1:23:18Speaker 02

  But you couldn't explain that in the moment.

• 1:23:19Speaker 00

  Couldn't explain the moment and I don't want to take the money away from him.

• 1:23:21Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:22Speaker 00

  But like, shorty, there was $200 in here. I'm fucking 11 years old. I'm a billionaire at 11 if I got $200. So in a way I did feel.

• 1:23:31Speaker 02

  You felt shortchanged. 20 bucks, I feel like that's not bad.

• 1:23:36Speaker 00

  No, I had 200.

• 1:23:38Speaker 02

  Okay, no, you didn't.

• 1:23:39Speaker 00

  I had 200 and I already spent all of the money.

• 1:23:42Speaker 02

  In your brain.

• 1:23:43Speaker 00

  In my brain, I spent every one of those $200 and then I, now I'm $180 in debt.

• 1:23:48Speaker 02

  You lost $180.

• 1:23:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, because I already got the Carolina fucking Jordan 11s. I already bought them in my head.

• 1:23:55Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I'm about to get a pair of 11s. I just want the classics good. Wait, I actually had a similar thing happen to me yesterday. So I lost my keys, I think Saturday night or whatever, but I have my AirPods attached to it, so I can see the location. It's pinging like right where my building is. Like it seems like it's inside. I'm like, ah, it has to be in my apartment somewhere or whatever. I must've, it must've dropped when I got like out of the Uber or some shit like that and somebody brought it to the restaurant that's right on the corner connected to my building. So I'm whatever, looking on the street. Eventually I just asked the restaurant just to take a chance. He's like, wait a minute. Does it have like AirPods? And he was like, yes. So I'm ecstatic. Mind you, I go to this restaurant all the time. It's connected to my building. So, and I always tip them well because it's like I'm a regular there.

• 1:24:40Mark Gagnon?

  I didn't give him anything for the keys and then I asked my shorty, I'm like, should I give him something? She's like, no, it's whatever. You find your keys. And I'm like, I think I should have gave him a little something for this.

• 1:24:50Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:24:51Mark Gagnon?

  What should I have done?

• 1:24:53Speaker 02

  No, you don't have to, why, why would you? You don't need to. You don't need to. But it is a nice, it's a classy gesture.

• 1:24:59Mark Gagnon?

  It felt like I should have. Like I felt like I did something wrong.

• 1:25:03Speaker 02

  And it's not too late. No, you didn't do anything wrong.

• 1:25:04Mark Gagnon?

  No, now you go after the fact, circle back a day later, like, hey, here.

• 1:25:08Speaker 02

  Give him 10 bucks ahead.

• 1:25:09Speaker 00

  Did you do anything that, was he inconvenienced in any way? No, someone gave him the AirPods and he stood exactly where he was gonna stand at work all day anyway. If he is, if you leave it in Uber and the Uber has to drive to you to drop them, you gotta tip them. Because you're inconveniencing that. You're not tipping for them doing a good deed. They should do a good deed because we're human beings and we're God fearing human beings. And Christianity will bring us all to eternal salvation. But the inconvenience is where you give a tip. Otherwise you go get it at wherever they are and then you don't need a tip. You leave your keys at B&H and you go pick them up. You tip the guy B&H?

• 1:25:50Speaker 02

  Not if you leave them. Not if you leave them. But if someone finds them, takes them to their apartment and then you meet up at that apartment and you get the keys.

• 1:25:58Speaker 00

  They found them.

• 1:25:59Speaker 02

  And they found them and they kept them safe.

• 1:26:01Speaker 00

  And they found, they have to stay at their apartment for you to go get there. Their day is ruined.

• 1:26:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:26:06Mark Gagnon?

  Hmm. Okay. So we're telling. You're saying I should have.

• 1:26:09Speaker 00

  If you left it at the place.

• 1:26:11Speaker 02

  I'm saying it's classy. You don't have to, but it's just a classy move.

• 1:26:13Speaker 00

  What are you giving him? Five bucks?

• 1:26:15Speaker 02

  Five, 10 bucks? Yeah. Hey, appreciate.

• 1:26:16Speaker 00

  Five bucks is disrespectful.

• 1:26:17Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, it's disrespectful. You have to get back, at least a 20.

• 1:26:20Speaker 02

  A 20?

• 1:26:20Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:21Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 1:26:21Speaker 00

  Anything less than a 20 is like you, he's poor. This is gonna change your life because $5 here. You'll almost be able to buy a coffee.

• 1:26:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. But now, where do the keys go to? They go to your apartment?

• 1:26:33Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:34Speaker 02

  If you found the keys and you returned them, you would want a percentage of the apartment value.

• 1:26:43Speaker 02

  Because you, you owned the apartment for like a period of time there.

• 1:26:47Mark Gagnon?

  According to what you just said before.

• 1:26:49Speaker 02

  That doesn't make you an owner of the apartment. You have the keys. Doesn't make you the owner of the apartment.

• 1:26:52Mark Gagnon?

  He could have took my AirPods. He could have been like, oh, I got new AirPods.

• 1:26:55Speaker 02

  100 bucks if you flip them.

• 1:26:57Speaker 00

  You, you can't take someone else's AirPods because it has the find my AirPods thing. Back in the day, maybe.

• 1:27:03Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:27:03Speaker 00

  Now it's impossible. It says Alex Media's fucking AirPods.

• 1:27:07Speaker 02

  And it probably has a logo or some shit on it.

• 1:27:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:27:09Mark Gagnon?

  Fuck you.

• 1:27:10Speaker 02

  Is it, does it?

• 1:27:10Mark Gagnon?

  No, I don't think so.

• 1:27:13Speaker 00

  Are you writing off your AirPods?

• 1:27:15Mark Gagnon?

  No, everything. No, we go, we're good.

• 1:27:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's an interesting one. I don't know. I would, I think you just give a couple bucks. I think that's a nice thing to do.

• 1:27:23Mark Gagnon?

  I'm gonna go back. I'll tip extra.

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• 1:30:50Speaker 02

  So this woman's going to work, and they have a work freezer or a work fridge. And she puts her food in there, and every day she goes to get her food, someone's stealing her food.

• 1:30:59Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:30:59Speaker 02

  And she's like, who the fuck is stealing my food? So what does she do? She puts ghost peppers in her lunch, one of the spiciest peppers. Puts it in her lunch because someone keeps stealing it. And not only is she gonna find who stole it, she's also going to stop them from stealing it.

• 1:31:14Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:15Speaker 02

  So now this is the video of her sitting there.

• 1:31:23Mark Gagnon?

  I actually wish the coughing was the person who stole it. Like, imagine she's right there in the bathroom while this person's going through it. That's fucking hilarious.

• 1:31:30Speaker 02

  What is the morality of this?

• 1:31:35Mark Gagnon?

  I love it. I absolutely love it.

• 1:31:38Speaker 00

  Can I, can I add a little caveat?

• 1:31:41Speaker 02

  Go ahead.

• 1:31:43Speaker 00

  Okay, anyway, so, no, this is a caveat.

• 1:31:45Speaker 02

  Okay, I thought that was it.

• 1:31:48Speaker 00

  If you like spicy food, make it extra spicy, and you still enjoy it. But putting the ghost peppers ruins the food for you in the event that you're not, they don't eat it that day. And now you suffer as well.

• 1:32:06Speaker 02

  You're talking about the methodology.

• 1:32:08Speaker 00

  Yes. If you like spicy food, or you like cilantro, and you know that the thief, you think doesn't like cilantro, like, there's a way where you don't have to lose enjoyment of the food, and that person still gets the punishment.

• 1:32:20Speaker 02

  Well, the method here is like, what if this person's brought two lunches? And they're like, look, I'm gonna bring my lunch, keep it in my backpack, and just have my little sandwich, but I'm gonna put my thing in the fridge because I know this person's gonna steal it because they always take it out of this Tupperware.

• 1:32:32Speaker 00

  And in the event that they don't steal, you just wasted food, starving people around the world?

• 1:32:37Speaker 02

  There's this starving person at your work stealing your food.

• 1:32:39Speaker 00

  No, because they brought another lunch, she said.

• 1:32:41Speaker 02

  No, but the person's stealing it. Why is someone stealing the lunch?

• 1:32:43Speaker 00

  Because they're probably hungry. They really need food, Mark.

• 1:32:45Speaker 02

  Exhibit A.

• 1:32:45Speaker 00

  So then why would you punish them?

• 1:32:47Speaker 02

  Precisely that. What if you bring two lunches, and you catch them in the act, and you say, hey, I actually brought this for you. You're probably on hard times.

• 1:32:53Speaker 00

  That right there is fire.

• 1:32:56Speaker 02

  Take the candlesticks.

• 1:32:57Mark Gagnon?

  Why? Why is this fire?

• 1:32:59Speaker 02

  Jean Valjean, you come and you steal from me, and they bring it back to say, is this the guy that stole from you? You say, no, he didn't steal. He actually forgot something. Boom, candlesticks.

• 1:33:06Speaker 00

  An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind, Alex.

• 1:33:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:09Speaker 00

  We don't want to live like that. We're Americans. We're in the West.

• 1:33:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:13Speaker 00

  Capitalist society.

• 1:33:14Speaker 02

  Capitalist, capitalist society.

• 1:33:16Mark Gagnon?

  What about pull yourself up by the bootstraps? So now you bring in the lunch for this person. Now they're going to expect lunch every day.

• 1:33:24Speaker 02

  Let him go on this. Keep going.

• 1:33:25Mark Gagnon?

  No, no, I'm going off y'all logic.

• 1:33:29Mark Gagnon?

  What about all this welfare system? Everybody's abusing the system, all this type of shit?

• 1:33:32Speaker 02

  Keep going, keep going.

• 1:33:33Mark Gagnon?

  No, no, I'm just talking about in this isolated situation.

• 1:33:40Speaker 00

  DSA media over here, all of a sudden, turned into quite the capitalist all of a sudden.

• 1:33:46Mark Gagnon?

  Isolated situation, you are rewarding bad behavior.

• 1:33:49Speaker 00

  Oh, it's what behavior?

• 1:33:50Mark Gagnon?

  In this particular situation.

• 1:33:51Speaker 00

  Being hungry is bad behavior, Al?

• 1:33:53Mark Gagnon?

  Stealing.

• 1:33:54Speaker 00

  All she did.

• 1:33:55Mark Gagnon?

  She's stealing.

• 1:33:55Speaker 02

  Stealing bread to feed your kids is bad behavior.

• 1:33:57Mark Gagnon?

  But you're stealing from somebody else, so now that person goes hungry.

• 1:34:00Speaker 00

  Al, forcing someone to pay more in taxes against their will is stealing, Al. All this person did that worked in that place is got food at a discount from a government-run grocery store. That's all they did, okay? And if you have a fucking problem with that, then we've got a larger discussion to have right now, okay? This is a government-run grocery store. But if you're saying that the business should also fund her food, knowing that her other food is gonna be, gonna be stolen or taken by a hundred people, I'm just saying, Al. You're talking like, you're talking like quite the fucking capitalist, a disgusting capitalist.

• 1:34:39Mark Gagnon?

  So you would bring in a second meal?

• 1:34:42Speaker 00

  That's what a good Christian would do.

• 1:34:44Mark Gagnon?

  How many days?

• 1:34:45Speaker 00

  Every day.

• 1:34:46Mark Gagnon?

  Because if you don't bring it in the following day, then you're like, oh, where's my meal? Now she takes your lunch again.

• 1:34:50Speaker 02

  I'm not trying to Band-Aid the problem. I want to get to the root of it. I'm gonna have you sit down, and I'm gonna say, what's going on in your life?

• 1:34:54Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:34:55Speaker 02

  What are you dealing with?

• 1:34:55Speaker 00

  Are you hungry?

• 1:34:56Mark Gagnon?

  Tough times. I don't have money for food.

• 1:34:58Speaker 00

  I got you. I got you.

• 1:35:00Mark Gagnon?

  Okay, so now, so you just believe in paying more taxes so we can take care of the?

• 1:35:05Speaker 02

  No, I'm Catholic. I'm a socialist.

• 1:35:06Speaker 00

  He believes in charity. He believes in charity.

• 1:35:08Speaker 02

  Catholics are inherently kind of socialist.

• 1:35:10Mark Gagnon?

  But it's still taxes. It's a form of taxes.

• 1:35:11Speaker 02

  I'm gonna say, hey, I'm gonna help you out. You got a job here, you got two jobs, you have kids at home? Well, look, I'm gonna bring some food in for you for the month. I'm gonna get you some cash. I'm just trying to help you out.

• 1:35:19Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:35:19Speaker 00

  But he's gonna do it because he thinks it's the right thing. He's not gonna do it because the government imposed a law to extract his food against his will.

• 1:35:27Mark Gagnon?

  Why is it an issue if it's the same outcome?

• 1:35:32Speaker 02

  Well, the methodology.

• 1:35:36Speaker 00

  No, I mean, what, you're asking me or Mark?

• 1:35:39Mark Gagnon?

  Both of you.

• 1:35:41Speaker 00

  My, my issue would say, just because the outcome is the same, doesn't mean the methodology is justified.

• 1:35:48Mark Gagnon?

  Why? If you're giving money to take care of people, whether through charity or through taxes, same outcome.

• 1:35:57Speaker 00

  Well, what if I come into a situation where I, I have to feed my family, and I can't give?

• 1:36:04Speaker 00

  But the government's like, sorry, too bad. You have to choose this coworker over you.

• 1:36:07Mark Gagnon?

  So now you're gonna let this lady starve?

• 1:36:12Speaker 00

  Over, yes, before my children, yeah.

• 1:36:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, probably so.

• 1:36:16Mark Gagnon?

  You wouldn't just cut it, and then we just all share it, and then we eat, we all eat a little?

• 1:36:21Speaker 02

  I mean, I would make sure my kids are fed. But then maybe if I'm in a position where I can fast, though, I love fasting.

• 1:36:28Mark Gagnon?

  Fucking catty.

• 1:36:29Speaker 02

  I like the fast. Well, there's another, there's another wrong fast.

• 1:36:31Mark Gagnon?

  I like what this lady did. It teaches somebody a lesson, and they'll stop doing it. I fuck with it.

• 1:36:38Speaker 00

  So you're saying for the government-run grocery stores, we should put ghost peppers in all the food until they stop buying? It's a great idea. Bodega owners in all the boroughs. Alex Media has given you a fantastic idea to maintain the sovereignty of your businesses.

• 1:36:53Speaker 02

  Okay, this one's interesting. Morality of lying to a dying person so they can pass away in peace.

• 1:37:01Speaker 00

  I like, yeah, you see these scenes in movies where it's like, you're gonna be okay. Everything, we got you, and then they die. But then again, like, you might want to say some shit before you die. So don't tell me I'm gonna die.

• 1:37:10Speaker 02

  Well, this one's.

• 1:37:11Speaker 00

  Oh, sorry. So tell me I'm gonna die. Yeah.

• 1:37:13Speaker 02

  This one makes it racial. So this guy's dying on the ground, and he's looking up at Peter Parker and says, "He was white, Peter. All these years protesting the Civil Rights Act, and one of my own gets me. Was I wrong, boy? Uncle Ben, he, he, he looked Italian. Oh, Peter, thank you." Uncle Ben dies smiling.

• 1:37:31Mark Gagnon?

  So silly.

• 1:37:32Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 1:37:34Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, Uncle Ben, man. That was sad.

• 1:37:37Speaker 02

  Damn, he got killed by an Italian?

• 1:37:38Speaker 00

  Um, Tom Holland, no Uncle Ben.

• 1:37:41Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. How many times are we gonna tell the same story? Come on, it's the Jesus story over again.

• 1:37:47Speaker 02

  Oh, this is an interesting one. Customer offers her a drink. She takes a water shot and pockets the money.

• 1:37:54Speaker 00

  She's stealing from the restaurant, not the customer.

• 1:37:58Speaker 02

  Water and Don Julio bottles from when people buy you shots.

• 1:38:01Speaker 00

  But the theft is from the establishment, not the customer.

• 1:38:06Speaker 02

  Well, why? Is it from the establishment?

• 1:38:08Speaker 00

  No. Yes.

• 1:38:08Speaker 02

  Because the establishment doesn't lose Don Julio.

• 1:38:11Speaker 00

  But they lose the sale.

• 1:38:14Speaker 02

  They don't lose the sale.

• 1:38:15Speaker 00

  Of course they do. Because he's trying to buy a shot for her. Which is, goes to the establishment, which makes the establishment more money.

• 1:38:26Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:38:27Speaker 00

  Right? Now, they still have Don Julio to sell to other people. But they didn't get that money that was intended for the establishment.

• 1:38:38Speaker 02

  But then they don't have to buy another bottle of Don Julio, so it's a wash.

• 1:38:40Speaker 00

  It's not a wash, because you still need to generate money.

• 1:38:43Speaker 02

  She used alchemy to turn the Don Julio into cash.

• 1:38:46Speaker 00

  How about this? Person comes in and orders steak sandwiches at the restaurant. The waiter makes steak sandwiches at home, brings them into the restaurant. Technically, the restaurant doesn't lose steak sandwiches, so they can sell them. But the waiter is selling their own steak sandwiches, therefore undercutting the restaurant.

• 1:39:06Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. I feel like that's different, but I don't know why.

• 1:39:11Mark Gagnon?

  Yes, yeah.

• 1:39:11Speaker 00

  It's only different because the bartender, the waiter, is making less money. Because she has to front the cost of the steak sandwiches. But the restaurant still misses out on the price of the good. And the waiter still gets that money directly.

• 1:39:31Mark Gagnon?

  Wait a minute. Most times, when you buy a bartender a shot, they don't charge for that shot. So the place is actually losing money if she were to accept the shot. She's actually doing the better thing for the establishment.

• 1:39:50Speaker 00

  I think Al's making a good point here.

• 1:39:52Speaker 02

  Is that true? I always assumed they charged.

• 1:39:53Speaker 00

  No, well, it depends on the place.

• 1:39:55Mark Gagnon?

  Most of the time they don't.

• 1:39:56Speaker 00

  It depends on the place. If it's like a strip club, usually you're buying a really expensive shot for them and the place is making money. The common ground is this. I want to buy you a shot. Okay, it's a water shot, but you still charge it. For each water shot, the restaurant pays you $5 or whatever it is. It's a $10 shot. The restaurant gives you half for the water shots. Now, you don't have to get drunk. They make $5 for water. You get that and a tip on top of it, so you're a hell of a stoke, and they maintain their inventory.

• 1:40:30Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:31Speaker 00

  That's the best case scenario for everybody.

• 1:40:33Mark Gagnon?

  It also kind of fucks over the person who's doing the shot. Because it's like...

• 1:40:39Speaker 00

  But the...

• 1:40:40Mark Gagnon?

  It's just...

• 1:40:41Speaker 00

  You said doing the shot or buying the shot?

• 1:40:43Mark Gagnon?

  Buying the shot. Because they're just like being lied to. It's like, hey, I want to do a celebratory shot with you.

• 1:40:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:40:49Mark Gagnon?

  And you're lying to me and telling me this thing, this action we're about to do?

• 1:40:53Speaker 02

  Is fake.

• 1:40:54Speaker 00

  Is fake. Yes.

• 1:40:55Speaker 02

  That is true.

• 1:40:56Speaker 00

  That is true. Yeah, so it's like, who's gonna get fucked over? Is it the person buying it? Is it the person doing it? Or is it the establishment? And in this scenario, depending on who you are, you will side with yourself.

• 1:41:12Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:13Speaker 00

  Now, do I care that much that the bartender takes the shot of alcohol? No, but at the same point in time, I don't want to buy you a fake shot. I'd rather just be like, hey, if it's a shot of water, let me just give you five bucks. Like, I don't...

• 1:41:27Mark Gagnon?

  Throw it in the tip. Yeah.

• 1:41:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think that's fair.

• 1:41:30Speaker 00

  You're right. You're right. You're being...

• 1:41:32Speaker 02

  If I did a shot with someone and they faked it, I'd be like, ah, come on.

• 1:41:35Speaker 00

  Like, what, yeah.

• 1:41:36Speaker 02

  We're supposed to do this together. It's a social thing.

• 1:41:38Speaker 00

  I was honestly just trying to run up the bill so you can make more money. Just let me give you the money directly.

• 1:41:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:43Speaker 00

  Good point. Very good point, Al.

• 1:41:46Speaker 02

  I've seen Mark fake shots. I just want to point that out. I sip. I nurse a shot. No, no, I've seen you throw it over your fucking shoulder in the bar.

• 1:41:54Mark Gagnon?

  No, you do that all the time. If you had too much to drink, I'd do that.

• 1:41:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, I have to drive, dude. I've already had five shots.

• 1:41:59Mark Gagnon?

  So you turn this way.

• 1:42:00Speaker 02

  This would be early.

• 1:42:01Speaker 00

  Boom, throw it on your shoulder.

• 1:42:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, douse some girl behind you. I've watched you do that, exactly. Okay, let's see if there's any more here. Oh, this one is an interesting one. This person's getting tailgated, okay?

• 1:42:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:42:14Speaker 02

  This guy's just on their ass, being like, yo, get out the way, get out the way. They're driving. Bang, swerves.

• 1:42:20Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:42:23Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, that's...

• 1:42:24Speaker 00

  Nah. Why is that car driving this way on the highway?

• 1:42:28Mark Gagnon?

  No, it was just pulled over.

• 1:42:29Speaker 02

  I think it's pulled over, stopped.

• 1:42:30Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:31Speaker 02

  Oh. So this person's tailgating. They're way too close. Absolutely do not need to be that close. Car stops, swerve, bang.

• 1:42:40Mark Gagnon?

  Oh.

• 1:42:41Speaker 02

  What is the morality of causing a crash to teach a tailgater a lesson?

• 1:42:45Speaker 00

  Ooh, I don't know if you caused that crash.

• 1:42:48Speaker 02

  My assumption is that this person's looking in the rearview mirror, being like, is this guy fucking tailgating me? And then looks up and they see a car stopped and then swerves out the way. I don't think they did it on purpose, if I had to assume. That's like pretty insidious, I think, to cause it on purpose.

• 1:42:59Speaker 00

  The person...

• 1:43:00Mark Gagnon?

  I think it's kind of on purpose, because you see this, you see yourself getting closer to this car. Like, you take a little peek back in the rearview mirror. You don't like stare at the car following you.

• 1:43:11Speaker 00

  One, when you're going 60 miles per hour and there's a car way in front of you, but it stopped, it doesn't feel stopped. Also, it doesn't have its, I don't think it has its stopped, like, I don't have its brake lights on. I think it's just parked on the side. So you can't even see brake lights. And he can't slam on the brakes because this asshole is riding his fucking tail. So he's kind of forced into making this decision.

• 1:43:34Speaker 02

  Swerve out the way.

• 1:43:35Mark Gagnon?

  Like, what I would have done, once I saw the car, I would have put my emergency brakes on. To let the car behind me like, yo, there's something happening, slow down.

• 1:43:43Speaker 00

  I don't even know where that is in a car.

• 1:43:45Speaker 02

  Hazard, hazard.

• 1:43:46Speaker 00

  I genuinely don't know where that is.

• 1:43:49Speaker 02

  You hit the emergency brake.

• 1:43:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, not an emergency brake. That's a little bit of a hazard.

• 1:43:52Speaker 00

  We're all dead if I'm looking for that. We're all dead.

• 1:43:55Speaker 02

  It's supposed to be very obvious in the middle of the car. There's a giant truck.

• 1:43:58Speaker 00

  Who pulls over in the fucking left lane? Yeah, that is what it is.

• 1:44:01Speaker 02

  This is, who knows what they're doing. Also, the guy tailgating, I think in this example, would be tailgating to tell that person that the left lane is for passing on a highway.

• 1:44:09Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:44:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:44:10Speaker 00

  And it's true. Now...

• 1:44:12Speaker 02

  So I'm... What do you mean? You're tailing someone to be like, hey, you gotta get out of the way so I can pass?

• 1:44:17Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:44:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's how...

• 1:44:19Speaker 00

  How long are you gonna tell them?

• 1:44:20Speaker 02

  Can't call them. Like, brother, just go around.

• 1:44:22Speaker 00

  But there isn't a round. There's all the traffic in the middle lanes.

• 1:44:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's traffic. We're on the highway. Just fucking chill.

• 1:44:27Speaker 00

  Well, then why don't you chill in the fucking right lane?

• 1:44:29Speaker 02

  Chill in the lane that you're not getting passed.

• 1:44:31Mark Gagnon?

  All these fucking transplants walking in New York City.

• 1:44:33Speaker 02

  Yo, why are you trying to pass, bro? Just fucking post up. You're fine. There's cars in front of you. You're good.

• 1:44:38Speaker 00

  But why do you get to dictate how fast he goes, lawman?

• 1:44:43Speaker 02

  Don't call me a lawman. I'm not a lawman. I'm cool.

• 1:44:46Speaker 00

  Socialist Catholic up. You just wanted to ride your ass for fucking 30 miles? No.

• 1:44:52Speaker 02

  There's a person in front of me that's in the way. I'm just gonna chill out. And I'm gonna say, you know what? Maybe this is all crazy.

• 1:44:58Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:44:59Speaker 02

  I'm forced, this person's gonna ride their ass to get them to move, flash the lights on them.

• 1:45:03Mark Gagnon?

  Yes, that's how...

• 1:45:04Speaker 00

  Fortunately, that guy just got a call from his wife that someone's breaking into their home, probably gonna murder their entire family. He doesn't know that this is actually his wife and she's going crazy. Okay, he's unaware of that. He's trying to get home immediately.

• 1:45:17Speaker 02

  He realized, I don't even have a wife. Hold on a second, I'm going crazy. Yes!

• 1:45:21Speaker 00

  Oh, shit.

• 1:45:21Speaker 02

  Let me figure this out.

• 1:45:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:45:24Speaker 02

  I don't have a wife.

• 1:45:25Speaker 00

  So he's going to the doctor. And you're just being a lollygagging asshole.

• 1:45:30Speaker 02

  But now, look, bang, rear ends the guy. Who is he gonna see right after this?

• 1:45:34Speaker 00

  The doctor. Everybody gets what they need, quite technically. That's fair.

• 1:45:38Speaker 02

  I think causing a crash at 70 miles an hour, especially on innocent people, that's kind of innocent, because maybe they're having a car issue.

• 1:45:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:45:45Speaker 02

  I don't think you do that. That seems crazy.

• 1:45:46Mark Gagnon?

  So who's in the wrong?

• 1:45:48Speaker 02

  Well, I think the people in the middle of the street, that's, that's pretty wrong. The guy tailgating is the most wrong.

• 1:45:55Speaker 00

  But the guy didn't want to be. He probably ran out of gas or something like that. His wife was driving a car.

• 1:45:59Speaker 02

  It's a bill of...

• 1:46:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's not that...

• 1:46:01Speaker 02

  If you had a rape variety of all three cable here, go. Most moral, the least moral.

• 1:46:07Speaker 00

  Most moral is the guy who is unscathed.

• 1:46:12Speaker 02

  Wait, who's that?

• 1:46:14Speaker 00

  Now he swerved, then he swerved on somebody. That's the most moral.

• 1:46:17Speaker 02

  Small for a second.

• 1:46:18Speaker 00

  Second most moral is the person that ran out of gas because his wife doesn't have a car.

• 1:46:23Speaker 02

  That's bonded.

• 1:46:24Speaker 00

  Uh, and then the third most moral is the guy who was tailgating, riding that ass.

• 1:46:27Speaker 02

  AKA the least moral.

• 1:46:29Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Yeah. I think most moral, the person pulled over to the side. It's a shitty place to pull over, but still, you'll know what happened.

• 1:46:37Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:46:40Speaker 00

  Then the guy who swerved out.

• 1:46:42Speaker 02

  I'm with you.

• 1:46:43Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no, no. Fuck it. No, the tailgater.

• 1:46:46Speaker 02

  Is the second?

• 1:46:47Speaker 00

  The second, yeah. The guy who swerved... You could, he could have just like lives, you just caused death.

• 1:46:53Speaker 02

  Get out the way.

• 1:46:54Speaker 00

  That's not worth it.

• 1:46:57Speaker 02

  Wow, I think Telkens is still worse. No, no. That's because you don't know how to fucking drive. I hate Telkens. That's because you're in the left lane.

• 1:47:09Speaker 02

  Okay, woman got paid one thousand six hundred fifty dollars an hour instead of sixteen fifty. Made nineteen thousand dollars in one shift refused to turn it in. I was assuming there was some type of a accounting error that was done. They accidentally paid her the wrong amount.

• 1:47:27Speaker 02

  And then they were like, well, you have to return it.

• 1:47:28Speaker 00

  I hate that. Keep going. Or, obviously.

• 1:47:35Speaker 00

  The right thing to do, the legal thing to do is to return it. You don't want to do it because that's their mistake.

• 1:47:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it's on the people that made the mistake.

• 1:47:43Speaker 00

  So she doesn't have to return it? Like she agreed to a contract where she makes a certain amount an hour and they paid her not that amount?

• 1:47:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, they made a mistake.

• 1:47:50Speaker 00

  So what? They just eat that?

• 1:47:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. You made a twenty thousand dollar mistake. You gotta fire your accountant. Whoever did the payout.

• 1:47:56Speaker 00

  That, more. Same thing applies if they pay you less than the amount that they're supposed to?

• 1:48:03Speaker 02

  No, because we agreed on this amount.

• 1:48:07Speaker 02

  But then you paid more, so that's what it is.

• 1:48:09Speaker 00

  Alright, well, we agreed on the amount, but I paid less, so oops, I made a mistake.

• 1:48:12Speaker 02

  Well, then I'm gonna go in and say, hey, you gotta make this whole, and if they say no, then I'm gonna quit.

• 1:48:19Speaker 00

  You wouldn't, Mark. You're a good Catholic guy. That's not the Catholic thing to do. That's not the Catholic thing to do.

• 1:48:26Speaker 02

  They made a mistake. If she wants to return it, that's the nice thing to do. That is the honorable thing to do, but I don't think she's entitled.

• 1:48:31Speaker 00

  What would Jesus do?

• 1:48:33Speaker 00

  What would your employees do?

• 1:48:35Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:48:36Speaker 00

  You have employees. If you overpaid them. Talk that shit, you fucking rich fuck.

• 1:48:44Speaker 00

  And so now, DSA media, bro.

• 1:48:48Speaker 00

  Like a cracker. Realize you made this mistake and you overpaid them.

• 1:48:51Speaker 02

  And I would say, hey, I accidentally fucked up. Is there any way you could just return the money?

• 1:48:55Speaker 00

  No, but according to you, you made the mistake, so.

• 1:48:59Speaker 02

  And if they said no, then I'd be like, that's fine.

• 1:49:01Speaker 00

  And then you keep them on.

• 1:49:02Speaker 02

  No, you gotta terminate that.

• 1:49:04Speaker 00

  Why are you telling me? Later, do I do it all according to you? Yeah. Because they pissed me off. You just said that. For your fuck up. Exactly, yeah. Fucked up. Yeah. So you're firing him for your fuck up?

• 1:49:14Speaker 02

  I'm gonna fire him for something else, I find.

• 1:49:18Speaker 00

  Yo, Al, you're a capitalist, yo. You're a real capitalist. Because he's bullshit. Can't you just be a capitalist?

• 1:49:26Speaker 02

  I'm on, I'm on the side of the lady. I'm on her side. Let's say you're working at Walmart, they accidentally, this is a sixteen dollar job, sixteen dollars an hour. This is a regular fucking Walmart.

• 1:49:34Speaker 00

  What does money means to her? She comes from another planet. Look at her. She just got to Earth. She traveled four thousand light years away from a foreign galaxy to work at fucking Wendy's or wherever she's working. She has no idea the concept of money. It means nothing to her. It really all depends. Do you still want to continue working at the place? If you still want to continue working at the place, you have to give the money back.

• 1:49:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'll tell you, I think that makes sense, but all of a sudden you get paid twenty thousand. How much, how long is she gonna have to work to pay twenty thousand?

• 1:50:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. Let me tell you something. That money is not being given back by this person. There's not a chance. There is not a chance. So, what makes you think Jordan Smith is gonna get that? What do you mean? There's no fucking, do you think there's a chance of? Yes, yes, I do. Yes, I do. If she has no legal. Woman looks like a very upstanding citizen.

• 1:50:25Speaker 02

  The fact there's a mugshot here, I'm gonna say.

• 1:50:29Speaker 02

  They're gonna say, there's a chance she could have performed the mugshot, sure.

• 1:50:34Speaker 00

  Maybe I was her best pick.

• 1:50:37Speaker 00

  Her best pick. Felon Bay, you know?

• 1:50:41Speaker 02

  Just solely getting at the context of how we're seeing her. It's not looking good for her. But I'm just saying, alright, what about a, what about a fucking, uh, you get a random deposit from a bank? And they put a hundred thousand dollars in there.

• 1:50:53Speaker 00

  They got insurance for that. Yo, low key.

• 1:50:57Speaker 02

  It'll take from a bank, but not from Walmart.

• 1:50:59Speaker 00

  Low key? That's supposed to happen. I'm taking that money out of me. Yeah.

• 1:51:07Speaker 00

  Taking that money out of me. Yeah. Okay.

• 1:51:09Speaker 02

  So you're urged.

• 1:51:10Speaker 00

  You don't got insurance for mistaking your employee?

• 1:51:12Speaker 02

  No, no, it's wrong what I'm doing.

• 1:51:15Speaker 00

  Is it wrong?

• 1:51:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:51:16Speaker 00

  They made a mistake. Yeah, but like, we should be, uh, we should be kind and benevolent when people meet. You return the onion ring at the, at the, at the draft room?

• 1:51:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:51:32Speaker 00

  But I discovered there's an onion ring, actually. I did not pay for this. There was an onion ring in my fries? This could go to someone who's hungry and wants onion. Take this out of my fries right now. I didn't even touch it, so it could still be you.

• 1:51:46Speaker 02

  Yes, and you take it.

• 1:51:47Speaker 00

  Well, if you take it out with gloves, this is still a good onion ring for some young, hungry motherfucker out there who wants it.

• 1:51:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's, that's the right thing to do.

• 1:51:55Speaker 00

  There needs to be a restaurant that does that intentionally. How good do you feel when you get a couple of extra little things? Like that's their, that's their little thing?

• 1:52:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it is a touchline.

• 1:52:06Speaker 00

  Fuck you.

• 1:52:06Speaker 02

  No, I'm being dead serious. I think they're like, here, for a lot of, for the hundred.

• 1:52:09Speaker 00

  All these places that are fucking making marginal profit, they're not, hey, let's give out extra food. I don't pay.

• 1:52:15Speaker 02

  How is there always one onion ring? How is somebody, they place it on the top?

• 1:52:17Speaker 00

  It's one onion ring. It's geeky. Have you been to McDonald's before? They'll sell onion rings.

• 1:52:25Speaker 00

  That was some fat shit, though. I should have said Burger King. If I was on board, I should have said, yeah, alright.

• 1:52:30Speaker 02

  It's always on the top. You don't find an onion ring at the bottom.

• 1:52:32Speaker 00

  That's a good point. They're doing it on purpose. They want, they want you to get into the onion rings.

• 1:52:40Speaker 00

  It might not be a tap. He really might not be. I really, that shit really, day by day, I was like, oh, man, that's so fucking. No, they were just working fast and the fucking onion rings next to the fries and one slipped in and they, you know? And it's more worth it than them to take it out, so.

• 1:52:57Speaker 02

  You're a DSA, so that's beautiful.

• 1:52:59Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 1:53:00Speaker 02

  Look at you.

• 1:53:00Speaker 00

  That's one. I really thought that was really a, a joint mistake. Nah, bro. Fuck you, that. Every once in a while, I think that you're just a bleeding heart capitalist, and then you say some shit like this, and I'm like, nah, bro. This guy is DSA, dude.

• 1:53:22Speaker 02

  Alright, you do a couple more, alright? This one is a kind of a fun one. What is the fastest way you've ever seen a new coworker get fired? First day of work, a coworker asked for a short break in some space in a storage closet to put down his prayer rug. Was fired almost immediately. About six months later, we were all laid off when the company went bankrupt paying us, paying out his discrimination lawsuit.

• 1:53:43Speaker 00

  That's, wow, that's awesome.

• 1:53:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean.

• 1:53:45Speaker 00

  Honda La.

• 1:53:47Speaker 02

  The morality of suing a company after immediately being fired for a short break to pray in the closet, making good bankrupt, making all your coworkers unemployed. So not, not, the question is not, what is the morality of firing someone over their religion? Obviously, that's wrong. Yes.

• 1:54:02Speaker 00

  Is it?

• 1:54:04Speaker 02

  I guess it depends on the job. Be honest, you fire a priest because you find out he's Muslim, then yeah, that's probably reasonable.

• 1:54:10Speaker 00

  What if you, what if you hire somebody? What if you hire a Jewish guy? Right? For what?

• 1:54:17Speaker 00

  Let me get there. Alright, you hire a Jewish guy, right? He's ultra religious. Won't answer emails on Friday. Right? And it's like, yo, we got deals, we're losing, we're losing so much money. And you're like, you're like, bro, I need to be able to email you Friday night. Like, we got deals in Shanghai, we got deals on the West Coast, like.

• 1:54:37Speaker 02

  Our family was a Gucci store.

• 1:54:39Speaker 00

  Our family was a Gucci store. That's for the avenue. We're the richest family in all of Switzerland. We're black. I remember the first time Del was working with us and he did his whole old twenty-four hour, I can't talk. He was so annoyed, bro. You were so pissed off. This motherfucker eating shellfish every other day, doing, eating cheeseburgers. He's doing all the other shit and then he gotta take off when we got work. We got a tour. Give me the shellfish Judaism that you was doing the rest of the fucking year. It's karate time right now. The whole day we just heard about it. Motherfucker doing mushrooms. He's doing mushrooms and fasting, and I'm like, you were eating shellfish with me. We had a shrimp tempura.

• 1:55:22Speaker 00

  We had a shrimp tempura together. Stop. Oh, that was so funny. Now you, now you're respecting love and love, but you used to hate that shit. I'm just saying, we gotta pick and choose. So I think you could fire someone for religious practices.

• 1:55:36Speaker 02

  For their practices.

• 1:55:37Speaker 00

  I, I think you could fire someone because the religion is incongruent with the job that you need to.

• 1:55:44Speaker 02

  I can see that.

• 1:55:45Speaker 00

  You know what I mean? Like, it, it's like, dude, I'm not firing you because you're Jewish. I'm not firing you because you're Christian or whatever the fuck it is, but I need you on this deck. Perfect example.

• 1:56:00Speaker 00

  You want to take Christmas off? Of course, this is the Lord's birthday. You know where we work? Where? We work at fucking.

• 1:56:10Speaker 00

  The Christmas tree. You know what I mean? Like, bro, this is a big day for us, man.

• 1:56:16Speaker 02

  Christmas Day?

• 1:56:17Speaker 00

  Christmas Eve is where you buy your tree. You're like, I can't work Christmas Eve, bro. They say God was born almost. You know what I mean? Like, Mary's in labor right now. I can't work. Um, and you're like, yo, the whole point of this fucking job is today. You're not the right guy.

• 1:56:33Speaker 02

  So who are you gonna hire for that?

• 1:56:34Speaker 00

  Muslims, Jews, people who are ready to go.

• 1:56:37Mark Gagnon?

  What about Christmas trees?

• 1:56:38Speaker 00

  Yo, you're a Chinese restaurant. You know that Christmas is a big day. That's New Year's for you. You can't hire.

• 1:56:47Mark Gagnon?

  The other New Year's.

• 1:56:48Speaker 02

  The other.

• 1:56:48Speaker 00

  You can't hire Jews off. You can hire, you can't hire Christians to run your shit. You can't do, you gotta get Jews or Muslims in there.

• 1:56:56Mark Gagnon?

  He's not wrong.

• 1:56:58Speaker 02

  I see your point.

• 1:56:59Speaker 00

  You run a fucking cattle ranch.

• 1:57:01Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:57:02Speaker 00

  You can't hire an Indian.

• 1:57:06Speaker 00

  Or a butcher. He's praying over the meat like, yo, you can't do this. These are gods. Like, I gotta fire you for your religion. It's not for your religion. But you're, you're not the guy for this job. You should have never applied. You know what we do here? We chop up your god and dice him up and make beautiful fucking tartare out of it.

• 1:57:26Speaker 02

  That's a good point.

• 1:57:27Speaker 00

  Matter of fact.

• 1:57:28Speaker 02

  Why did he apply for that job in the first?

• 1:57:29Speaker 00

  Firing someone for religious reasons might be almost the most justifiable way to fire a human being in history.

• 1:57:39Speaker 02

  It depends on the job.

• 1:57:40Speaker 00

  It depends on the job, but like, come on, bro. Come on.

• 1:57:45Mark Gagnon?

  You're really not wrong on this.

• 1:57:46Speaker 00

  Why is the Hindu guy trying to work at the cattle factory? He don't know. He just got here.

• 1:57:51Mark Gagnon?

  What? He likes cows?

• 1:57:53Speaker 00

  He loves cows. He's like, hold on, we get to be around the cows?

• 1:57:57Speaker 02

  It's on the logo, giant cow.

• 1:57:58Speaker 00

  He sees the cow on the logo. He's like, I get to be near my god. I get to be near the holiest thing.

• 1:58:03Speaker 02

  And the first two hours of his day were amazing.

• 1:58:05Speaker 00

  Incredible. And then he just hears.

• 1:58:11Speaker 00

  And he goes, what was that? What was that sound? What was that sound?

• 1:58:19Speaker 02

  Hey, Christmas, we have something to tell you.

• 1:58:21Speaker 00

  Oh. So what was that sound? We process.

• 1:58:28Speaker 00

  There's that sound again.

• 1:58:32Speaker 00

  What was, that sound was horrifying and it feels like life being stricken from the planet.

• 1:58:41Speaker 02

  We, we kill cows, we sell.

• 1:58:42Speaker 00

  You what?

• 1:58:44Speaker 02

  That's what we do for America.

• 1:58:46Speaker 00

  Why would you have the live cow on the sign? Why not put a dead cow on the sign? Your business is dead cows, not live cows. Why would you put a live?

• 1:58:56Speaker 02

  Marketing is that way people know what we do.

• 1:58:59Speaker 00

  Liar.

• 1:59:02Speaker 02

  So maybe it's on us for false advertising.

• 1:59:04Speaker 00

  No, he just figured out what it was. He just figured out what it was. All I'm trying to say is like, it's.

• 1:59:12Speaker 00

  Give me a reason why firing someone for religious reasons isn't the right thing to do.

• 1:59:16Speaker 02

  Okay, well, in this case, you were like a bank or some shit, okay? And the guy says, hey, I gotta go pray. It's my, I have to.

• 1:59:22Speaker 00

  Are you, you really, five breaks? Are you the security guard at the bank and it gets robbed while you're fucking praying?

• 1:59:29Speaker 02

  Okay, fair.

• 1:59:30Speaker 00

  You're fired.

• 1:59:31Speaker 02

  Okay, fair.

• 1:59:32Speaker 00

  You're fired.

• 1:59:32Speaker 02

  Fair.

• 1:59:36Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, five breaks is a lot.

• 1:59:38Speaker 00

  It's a lot. Now, technically, you wouldn't get all five during working hours. Probably get like.

• 1:59:42Speaker 02

  Two, three.

• 1:59:43Speaker 00

  Two, three. Which is still more than one break.

• 1:59:46Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah. What, now they get special treatment?

• 1:59:49Speaker 02

  What do you say? I'm gonna skip my lunch. It's Ramadan, so I don't even need it.

• 1:59:52Speaker 00

  That's more than one month.

• 1:59:54Speaker 02

  Every day is Ramadan for me.

• 1:59:56Speaker 00

  Locked in. Bro, do I lock in?

• 1:59:58Speaker 02

  I'm super locked in. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna do my, my prayer and I'm gonna just, I'm not gonna take lunch break. I'm gonna break up my prayers over this, this time.

• 2:00:08Speaker 02

  Then I think it's even. People take smoke breaks. No, they also probably look like smoke. This guy's a.

• 2:00:14Mark Gagnon?

  I think by law, once you work over a certain amount of hours, you're, you have to have at least like a, the, the thirty or hour break.

• 2:00:21Speaker 02

  And what you're doing that time, that's, that's up to you. Can you fit all your three prayers in one hour?

• 2:00:28Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:00:29Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 2:00:30Mark Gagnon?

  I don't think so. They, they do the call. I think you just stack it. You gotta do it when they do the call.

• 2:00:34Speaker 00

  But, but, but I'm sure there might be some things in the religion to say, like, if you're working and you can't, and we look the other, we're, we're cool with it. Like, I'm thinking the middle of like a war. They were dropping and hitting. Just wanted to give me twenty. Like, you know, you would lose the war and they were good at that.

• 2:00:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a good point.

• 2:00:52Mark Gagnon?

  But I don't hit all prayers at the same time.

• 2:00:55Speaker 00

  But if who, who they're fighting are not praying.

• 2:00:57Mark Gagnon?

  That's true.

• 2:00:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's that very valuable connaissance. It's like, hey, I have a good feeling when you hear that sound, the fences are gonna be down.

• 2:01:05Speaker 00

  Once you hear that bell go?

• 2:01:06Speaker 02

  When we wake.

• 2:01:07Speaker 00

  We wake, this is the sound, right?

• 2:01:12Speaker 00

  You know? Yeah, I, I like, I, can you give me a reason why not?

• 2:01:19Speaker 02

  Okay, I don't know what that. What do we think?

• 2:01:24Speaker 02

  Um, there's reasons you can't discriminate on religion. I'm just, I'm on the spot here. You can't think of one?

• 2:01:31Mark Gagnon?

  I can't. He, it's sound logic.

• 2:01:35Speaker 00

  It's actually not discriminating based on religion. It's discriminating based on job performance that is hurt due to devotion to religion. So it's almost like if you are that devoted to religion, you gotta be specific about the jobs you choose.

• 2:01:51Speaker 02

  Shout out to D and H.

• 2:01:52Speaker 00

  Shout out to D and H. They shut it down. They shut it down.

• 2:01:56Mark Gagnon?

  And they shut it down even for the people who aren't Jewish.

• 2:01:59Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 2:02:00Mark Gagnon?

  They get off too.

• 2:02:01Speaker 00

  Everybody gets off. Just respect.

• 2:02:04Speaker 02

  It's because they can't accept money. On Shabbat.

• 2:02:08Speaker 00

  Oh, really? What's that?

• 2:02:09Speaker 02

  I don't think they're allowed to actually accept money. Like, even when you put an order in, your card doesn't get charged until after.

• 2:02:14Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that shit's annoying.

• 2:02:16Speaker 00

  Fuck.

• 2:02:17Speaker 02

  It's funny. Your card will get charged the moment it's over. And you'll be like, oh, what? Oh, yeah, I did order that a day ago. They're, they're calling it.

• 2:02:26Mark Gagnon?

  Hey, half the after, two o'clock, five, I gotta wait till Sunday to buy shit.

• 2:02:33Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 2:02:33Mark Gagnon?

  A shout out to early. I love D and H.

• 2:02:35Speaker 02

  Now, what if there's a situation where you go, go, we go, this is what I'm waiting for. What if there's a situation where you? Okay, all right, fine. What do we think of one?

• 2:02:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:02:44Speaker 02

  Okay, you're a Christian. And you work at a job. And they fire you because they don't like that you're Christian.

• 2:02:54Speaker 00

  Well, what do they not like about it?

• 2:02:57Speaker 02

  That they do your, your worship, be a false god.

• 2:03:01Speaker 00

  And how, well, how's that impact the job?

• 2:03:04Speaker 02

  Doesn't.

• 2:03:06Speaker 00

  I personally think Christians should be able to work wherever they want.

• 2:03:10Speaker 02

  Well, not, not in a mosque.

• 2:03:11Speaker 00

  If they wanted to.

• 2:03:13Speaker 02

  It could be the Amal of a mosque. Run a city.

• 2:03:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:20Speaker 00

  No, if we're being serious, um, you're saying like, what if someone just gets fired for being Christian? Who would fire them? Give an example.

• 2:03:28Speaker 02

  Uh, maybe there's a, a Hindu store. Maybe there's a.

• 2:03:30Speaker 00

  An atheist?

• 2:03:31Speaker 02

  An atheist store?

• 2:03:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:33Speaker 02

  Maybe a Muslim store.

• 2:03:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:34Speaker 02

  Maybe even a Jewish store.

• 2:03:36Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:03:36Speaker 02

  And they say, we don't like this.

• 2:03:38Speaker 00

  We just don't like you. And you're not imposing your religion on them in any way, shape or form?

• 2:03:42Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:03:43Mark Gagnon?

  I would say that that's wrong.

• 2:03:45Speaker 02

  It's wrong.

• 2:03:46Speaker 00

  Especially if you're doing your job really well.

• 2:03:47Speaker 02

  You're doing the right job.

• 2:03:48Speaker 00

  And just what you believe in? Why do they even know what you believe in?

• 2:03:52Speaker 02

  Do you have crucifix right in your neck?

• 2:03:56Speaker 02

  Hmm, that's your. That's, I will say.

• 2:03:59Speaker 00

  Let's say you work at a store selling, uh, Muslim memorabilia.

• 2:04:07Speaker 00

  But you're Catholic, okay? What? What?

• 2:04:12Speaker 02

  What store is this?

• 2:04:14Speaker 00

  What do you mean? It's, it sells Muslim memorabilia. Fuck, what? I don't know, like fucking lamps and things. And let's say you're working at the lamps and things, right? But you have a giant cross hanging from the neck.

• 2:04:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:04:27Speaker 00

  Or just a cross about the size that you think. And they're like, you know what? This is not good marketing for our store. You don't believe in this stuff. Like, why would someone pay six hundred fifty dollars for a lamp?

• 2:04:43Speaker 00

  From you?

• 2:04:44Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:04:45Speaker 00

  It looks like a fugazi. We gotta fire you.

• 2:04:48Speaker 02

  But is it true?

• 2:04:50Speaker 00

  Is what true?

• 2:04:51Speaker 02

  The fact that people are not buying as many lamps and rugs because of your cross?

• 2:04:54Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:04:55Speaker 02

  That feels like discrimination.

• 2:04:56Speaker 00

  It's like having an ugly hostess at a restaurant.

• 2:05:00Speaker 02

  It's gonna affect the bottom line to a extent.

• 2:05:02Speaker 00

  Do you wanna eat there?

• 2:05:03Speaker 02

  I think about it.

• 2:05:04Speaker 00

  When you pull up?

• 2:05:05Speaker 02

  Well, it depends. Is she, is she large?

• 2:05:07Speaker 00

  It's just a, just a fucking.

• 2:05:12Speaker 00

  She looks like shit. Okay? And you walk in, you're like, oh, table for two. And then she turns around and she's like.

• 2:05:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's gonna impact. I'm, I'm. Yeah, that might impact your opinion, but I mean, who walks out of the store at that point?

• 2:05:29Speaker 00

  You're buying, you, you're getting cigarettes. Okay, the person at the store is talking through the thing.

• 2:05:37Speaker 00

  You're gonna buy those cigarettes?

• 2:05:40Speaker 02

  I'm gonna get a recommendation from her, probably.

• 2:05:43Mark Gagnon?

  I'm gonna have a bail you?

• 2:05:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yo, which ones are the best? And she'll be like, well, not these.

• 2:05:47Speaker 00

  Don't go.

• 2:05:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, where are these ones? Yeah, these ones are better under the throat. That's how I smoke.

• 2:05:55Speaker 00

  Straight to the silver stew.

• 2:05:57Mark Gagnon?

  Ooh, I got a maybe normal one. What about, uh, coffee bean suck?

• 2:06:02Speaker 02

  And you're Mormon?

• 2:06:03Mark Gagnon?

  And you're Mormon. So now somebody's asking, oh, what does this taste like? What does that taste like? What's this?

• 2:06:09Speaker 00

  You fired. Fired me.

• 2:06:11Speaker 02

  Okay, we're gonna bar if you're sober?

• 2:06:13Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 2:06:13Speaker 02

  Why?

• 2:06:14Speaker 00

  Because you used to drink.

• 2:06:17Speaker 00

  But I will say, working at a restaurant when you don't eat the food, like you ever.

• 2:06:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've done that.

• 2:06:24Speaker 00

  It's a little annoying, you know?

• 2:06:25Speaker 02

  How the scallop, I don't do, I don't do.

• 2:06:27Speaker 00

  Sometimes they go, we don't really eat the food here.

• 2:06:30Speaker 02

  And you're like, that's, that's a right flag.

• 2:06:31Mark Gagnon?

  There you go.

• 2:06:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a right flag.

• 2:06:35Speaker 00

  Can't do it. So if that's based on religion, sorry.

• 2:06:40Speaker 00

  Capitalism, big cap. Or move to a country where like your religion is always there. And then you can get a job wherever you want.

• 2:06:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's no issue.

• 2:06:50Speaker 00

  But if you come to big cap. If you come to big cap, then you got, that's the religion.

• 2:06:57Speaker 02

  Play by the rules.

• 2:06:58Speaker 00

  I know we say you have the freedom to practice your religion. You don't have the freedom to practice it during capitalism. During the hours of capitalism, you don't have the freedom to do that. Sorry.

• 2:07:08Speaker 02

  Money never sleeps.

• 2:07:09Speaker 00

  It don't. It really don't, not in a Merg.

• 2:07:13Speaker 02

  That's a good point.

• 2:07:14Speaker 00

  Not a Merg, Al.

• 2:07:17Speaker 00

  What if during the recording session, there's a guy hitting that rug? Bang, bang, missing the switcher multiple times.

• 2:07:24Speaker 00

  Bang, bang, doing it out loud in the middle of the fucking recording session. It's gonna throw off the bike. What would you do?

• 2:07:33Speaker 02

  My hat.

• 2:07:34Speaker 00

  What if he's your star employee?

• 2:07:38Speaker 00

  No, stars are the other guys. Not the only Jewish, I mean, oh, he's your best. Oh, you're the best guy?

• 2:07:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:07:44Speaker 00

  All right.

• 2:07:46Speaker 02

  No one. That's a tough one.

• 2:07:47Speaker 00

  Your best quarterback.

• 2:07:49Speaker 02

  He's like, hey, I'm really, really sound playing Sundays.

• 2:07:54Speaker 00

  Yo, yo.

• 2:07:56Speaker 02

  I've not had him before. I'm sure it's a thing.

• 2:07:58Speaker 00

  Oh, it was with the kid who was like the Jewish Jordan. And yeah, and like, I think he was gonna play for Maryland or something like that. And they said that they were gonna switch the, the game so they wouldn't go on Shabbat.

• 2:08:09Speaker 02

  The Jewish Jordan, that's their dream.

• 2:08:11Speaker 00

  Wait a minute.

• 2:08:13Speaker 02

  In multiple ways. Quarterback we had on the super religious guy.

• 2:08:18Speaker 00

  Tim Tebow.

• 2:08:20Speaker 00

  You're not that religious if you play football.

• 2:08:24Speaker 02

  Tell him why he.

• 2:08:25Speaker 00

  I'm the Lord's day.

• 2:08:27Speaker 02

  But he's going to church.

• 2:08:28Speaker 00

  Playing sports.

• 2:08:29Speaker 02

  Go church.

• 2:08:29Speaker 00

  What more do you have time to go to church?

• 2:08:32Speaker 02

  Pastor?

• 2:08:33Speaker 00

  No. That's a whole day situation.

• 2:08:36Speaker 02

  Maybe do a private church, churches is where there's a body of believers.

• 2:08:39Speaker 00

  That is true.

• 2:08:40Speaker 02

  You just get like two of your boys, just do a little private church.

• 2:08:43Speaker 00

  Right, yeah.

• 2:08:44Speaker 02

  You can even do a Zoom church.

• 2:08:46Speaker 00

  Because Christians weren't allowed to practice their religion.

• 2:08:48Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 2:08:49Speaker 00

  They didn't have the luxury of having some beautiful facility. They had to go hide in a cave.

• 2:08:53Speaker 02

  Yeah. We were, there was prejudice against this.

• 2:08:56Speaker 00

  Yo, you know what? I brought my Bible to work today.

• 2:09:00Speaker 02

  Did you?

• 2:09:00Speaker 00

  I did. I'm, I'm, I am surprised.

• 2:09:04Speaker 02

  Some of the stuff in there?

• 2:09:05Speaker 00

  At how short the New Testament is.

• 2:09:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:09:10Speaker 00

  It's like 20 pages.

• 2:09:11Speaker 02

  Okay, it's not 20 pages.

• 2:09:12Speaker 00

  I was, cause it's, you know, it was the whole book, so I was, I wanted to jump to the new one, right? And then like, so I'm scrolling through and I'm like, when's this new one start? Matthew doesn't start till like.

• 2:09:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's in the end, it's in the end.

• 2:09:27Speaker 00

  It goes like page 1200 to page 1400.

• 2:09:29Speaker 02

  Something like that, okay. Uh huh. Well, the old part, the Old Testament has all Jewish stuff and they keep a lot more notes. They, they, they're keeping all the, all the account.

• 2:09:38Speaker 00

  I think you gotta tell people.

• 2:09:39Speaker 02

  The lineage.

• 2:09:40Speaker 00

  The account.

• 2:09:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, they all, the lineage of everything.

• 2:09:42Speaker 00

  Mark, we gotta tell people this. Because when you see the Bible, it's dense, it's a bit like, yeah. But if you knew you just had to read the.

• 2:09:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, it gets good at the end.

• 2:09:52Speaker 00

  The suffix. Like just the end part?

• 2:09:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:09:56Speaker 00

  That's you. And then if that really gets you, you can run to.

• 2:10:00Speaker 02

  So maybe we gotta flip it. Maybe we gotta flip it.

• 2:10:02Speaker 00

  1,000%.

• 2:10:03Speaker 02

  Over the Bible, first book, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, maybe throw on some other stuff. And then Genesis is way, way later.

• 2:10:11Speaker 00

  If you wanna know like way from the beginning. But like reading all that to get, I'm shocked. Christianity got this popular, knowing you gotta go through the whole beginning part.

• 2:10:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:10:25Speaker 00

  I think it's 23%. What is it? 23%. Yeah, felt about that.

• 2:10:31Speaker 02

  How much did you get to?

• 2:10:33Speaker 00

  Started on Matthew.

• 2:10:34Speaker 02

  Still there.

• 2:10:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:10:36Speaker 02

  We're just taking time, but.

• 2:10:37Speaker 00

  You know what's funny? I have two books in my, I have two books in my backpack right now. One is the Bible.

• 2:10:43Speaker 02

  Good.

• 2:10:44Speaker 00

  And the other one is, uh.

• 2:10:46Speaker 02

  Before you lost power?

• 2:10:47Speaker 00

  No, it's, uh, uh, The New Dad.

• 2:10:53Speaker 02

  Oh, he's trying to have another kid. Which is, he's doing New Testament and New Dad.

• 2:10:57Speaker 00

  Oh, which is also kind of the story of the Bible.

• 2:11:04Speaker 02

  Shout out to Go, dude.

• 2:11:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, John Drew's.

• 2:11:06Speaker 02

  Lord first mysterious way of.

• 2:11:08Speaker 00

  Every time you get religious, that means you trying to have another kid.

• 2:11:11Speaker 02

  Every time. No, I gotta sleep for a little bit, I gotta sleep. No atheists in the foxhole, as they say. You know what I mean?

• 2:11:19Speaker 00

  You sleeping.

• 2:11:19Speaker 02

  Not a euphemism. Just literally.

• 2:11:21Speaker 00

  Bro, child, child going to school next week, man.

• 2:11:24Speaker 02

  Whoa.

• 2:11:25Speaker 00

  Free school?

• 2:11:25Speaker 02

  Free school, man. That's wild.

• 2:11:27Speaker 00

  And is it?

• 2:11:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's free too, right? I like that.

• 2:11:31Speaker 00

  It's not free.

• 2:11:32Speaker 02

  Uh, it could have been, could have.

• 2:11:35Speaker 00

  It's not.

• 2:11:35Speaker 02

  Could have.

• 2:11:36Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 2:11:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was wild.

• 2:11:38Speaker 00

  You gotta go drop her off? Of course. You're gonna do that? Yeah. Who's gonna cry more?

• 2:11:44Speaker 00

  I don't know, Nellin. Right now, I think I would say, I think I would say ammo, but I don't know, I might go.

• 2:11:51Speaker 02

  He a hunter.

• 2:11:52Speaker 00

  I think I might go.

• 2:11:53Speaker 02

  It's not a question of if you're gonna cry, it's who's gonna cry more.

• 2:11:55Speaker 00

  It's an insane thing to just give our children to strangers in a building. And like they don't like, you just chirp in the building and watch them. That's, it's an insane, con, school is crazy.

• 2:12:06Speaker 02

  You are to the school? You looked into it, right?

• 2:12:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, of course.

• 2:12:10Speaker 02

  Down there surely doing some stuff, training it out.

• 2:12:13Speaker 00

  Nick gotta get in there.

• 2:12:14Speaker 02

  You gotta call him up. You can be like, hey, we're gonna send our daughter to preschool.

• 2:12:17Speaker 00

  Nick?

• 2:12:18Speaker 02

  We need you to just kind of soup around.

• 2:12:19Speaker 00

  Nick?

• 2:12:20Speaker 02

  See if this is, this is a leary center.

• 2:12:23Speaker 00

  Cameras and glasses for our parents to just like. Some do. Are they doing?

• 2:12:26Speaker 02

  Really?

• 2:12:26Speaker 00

  And you could like watch the whole time. Yeah, I feel like that should just be a normal thing, huh? Yeah, which I like. That's actually cool.

• 2:12:34Speaker 00

  What's him? TJ Billy.

• 2:12:38Speaker 02

  Can you free that in the ether?

• 2:12:40Speaker 00

  He's crazy. Ain't that what you afraid of, baby? Send them away? No, you, that's not my first fear. You don't want like a kid bullying them or like them hurting them.

• 2:12:52Speaker 02

  Just be scared and sad and just.

• 2:12:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, like sitting alone at a desk, like, oh, your heart will break.

• 2:12:57Speaker 02

  Nothing else.

• 2:13:00Speaker 00

  Yes, Al. Worst things that can happen to a human being. Start with the worst. Don't put the cameras.

• 2:13:07Speaker 02

  That's where your fear goes immediately.

• 2:13:09Speaker 00

  We gotta end this podcast. Guys, we'll see you on Patreon. We love you. Peace.