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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:45Caleb Hammer?

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• 0:48Speaker 03

  He's been cheating since like six months into our marriage.

• 0:51Caleb Hammer?

  Have you guys been married?

• 0:53Speaker 03

  We've been 17 years.

• 0:54Caleb Hammer?

  Brother, what are you, what the are you doing? You call her fat all the time. You were calling her fat in the pre-interview like 50 times.

• 0:59Speaker 03

  That's probably the reason why he decided that other girls are more important than me.

• 1:03Caleb Hammer?

  It's up what you've done.

• 1:04Speaker 03

  He doesn't care.

• 1:05Caleb Hammer?

  A CPS haven't been called in this house?

• 1:07Speaker 04

  Yep. She raised her hand at me while getting angry at you too. And I slapped her across the face.

• 1:13Caleb Hammer?

  I have to ask, has he ever hit you?

• 1:15Speaker 03

  Yes, once I got knocked out. Like I said, I don't remember what happened.

• 1:19Speaker 04

  You had a panic attack, a severe one. I got arrested.

• 1:22Caleb Hammer?

  Stop.

• 1:23Speaker 04

  Why? I'm explaining what happened that night.

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• 2:05Caleb Hammer?

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• 2:26Speaker 03

  Hi, I'm Joy and I'm 39 years old.

• 2:28Speaker 04

  I'm Peter. I'm 37 years old from Arlington.

• 2:30Speaker 03

  And this is Financial Audit.

• 2:32Caleb Hammer?

  It sure is. Thanks for coming down, guys. I really do appreciate it. Joy, let's start with you. You're right in front of me. What do you do for a living in Arlington?

• 2:41Speaker 03

  I do work from home.

• 2:42Caleb Hammer?

  You do work from home. That's not a job. Why do people, everyone, everyone that works from home on the show clarifies immediately when I ask what they do.

• 2:50Speaker 03

  I'm customer service from home.

• 2:51Caleb Hammer?

  Immediately clarify that they work from home. No one says, I work from office. They, for some reason, when I ask what their job, like, I don't even, it doesn't matter. It's just so weird. It's a trend I'm noticing. Why did you feel the need to clarify that?

• 3:04Speaker 03

  Because I'm a work from home homeschooling mom. And so it's all, I'm at home 24/7.

• 3:10Caleb Hammer?

  What's your job?

• 3:11Speaker 03

  I'm customer support.

• 3:12Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, that's your job. That's what I want to know.

• 3:14Speaker 04

  No, her job is a mom and customer support.

• 3:17Speaker 03

  I was gonna say.

• 3:18Speaker 04

  That's her job.

• 3:19Speaker 03

  Mom life isn't in for me.

• 3:20Speaker 04

  Mom's is a job too.

• 3:21Speaker 03

  My kids are home all day.

• 3:22Caleb Hammer?

  How many kids are there?

• 3:23Speaker 03

  We have five.

• 3:25Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, very good.

• 3:26Speaker 03

  Ages almost four to 12.

• 3:29Caleb Hammer?

  Well, let's just give me each age.

• 3:30Speaker 03

  All right, so we've got 12. 10, 8, 6, about to be 4.

• 3:38Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, very good. That would be 3, by the way.

• 3:41Speaker 03

  I know.

• 3:41Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 3:42Speaker 03

  He's only, he's only a few days from.

• 3:43Caleb Hammer?

  Very good. How many hours a week do you do customer service?

• 3:47Speaker 03

  Uh, so I had been 24 at September 1st. I moved up to 32 hours.

• 3:51Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, big job. Not really, but that's amazing. More money. How much, how much money you make an hour?

• 3:57Speaker 03

  $12 an hour.

• 3:58Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, have you ever considered that working from home might not be working for you super.

• 4:04Speaker 03

  The daycare cost would be worse.

• 4:07Caleb Hammer?

  Well, it's not even about the daycare cost I'm talking about. You know, the whole fact that you clearly don't move.

• 4:14Speaker 03

  Oh, I do. Don't worry.

• 4:18Speaker 03

  Because in the last nine months, I've lost 35 pounds. After I had massive surgery and discovered I'd been misdiagnosed for 11 years. So I'm good.

• 4:27Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, 35 pounds in nine months. Doctor now would be very displeased. He would call that a one month loss.

• 4:34Speaker 03

  Uh, doctor would be really happy because I had to have a hysterectomy and most people gain weight after a hysterectomy and I've lost weight.

• 4:40Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, that's good, but still 35 pounds in nine months.

• 4:42Speaker 04

  Hey, for her, for what she does.

• 4:46Speaker 03

  After being misdiagnosed.

• 4:47Caleb Hammer?

  What does she do?

• 4:48Speaker 03

  Um, so I do stair climbs, even being overweight. So I've climbed 45-story buildings.

• 4:54Caleb Hammer?

  Now?

• 4:55Speaker 03

  I've still done them up until.

• 4:56Speaker 04

  She used to be a former firefighter.

• 4:57Caleb Hammer?

  Why are you just, she was a firefighter?

• 4:59Speaker 04

  Former.

• 5:00Speaker 03

  Before I had kids, I was a firefighter.

• 5:01Caleb Hammer?

  Your oldest kid is 12, so what the fuck are? I mean, that was a long time ago.

• 5:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 5:06Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, then I don't think you're doing it now.

• 5:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, no. I used to, until I started getting sick to the point where I was.

• 5:14Caleb Hammer?

  Now question.

• 5:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:16Caleb Hammer?

  I mean, you know.

• 5:17Speaker 03

  I'm cool.

• 5:18Caleb Hammer?

  We're on the second floor.

• 5:19Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 5:20Caleb Hammer?

  There's also an elevator. Did you take the elevator or walk up the stairs? I was not there.

• 5:23Speaker 03

  We took the, we took the elevator because of the kids to keep them all together.

• 5:27Caleb Hammer?

  You know, it's just like up and you're there.

• 5:30Speaker 03

  Right, but one of my kids doesn't do too well with stairs. My four-year-old. So he had to hold my hand the whole time. He's not fond of elevators. Yes.

• 5:40Caleb Hammer?

  Of stairs?

• 5:41Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 5:42Caleb Hammer?

  But not elevators?

• 5:43Speaker 03

  No, he did pretty good. He was holding my hand. HES done the elevator at the hotel in here and.

• 5:47Caleb Hammer?

  What's scary about stairs?

• 5:50Speaker 03

  I think it's because those stairs are a lot wider because he didn't like, he's used to the stairs. Stairs in our house are really close together. But yeah, he's not fond of building and stairs.

• 6:00Caleb Hammer?

  Hold on.

• 6:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:01Caleb Hammer?

  If I'm not mistaken, did you say you homeschool them?

• 6:05Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 6:05Caleb Hammer?

  Have we ever considered that might not be going well for a four-year-old that clearly needs to go the outside?

• 6:10Speaker 03

  Oh, he goes outside.

• 6:12Speaker 04

  We have a backyard.

• 6:14Caleb Hammer?

  In other environments besides the park?

• 6:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:19Caleb Hammer?

  Is he afraid of stairs then? I think if he was at school, a lot of them have stairs. He wouldn't be as afraid of stairs. I know a four-year-old wouldn't really be in school.

• 6:27Speaker 03

  Well, he's three at this one daycare and don't, they don't necessarily have.

• 6:31Caleb Hammer?

  Not always, but there's clearly something a little weird.

• 6:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:37Speaker 04

  Well, we don't trust the school systems at all.

• 6:41Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, why?

• 6:43Speaker 04

  Because during COVID, they had all those Zoom calls and stuff where people would hack into the Zoom calls and start posting.

• 6:51Caleb Hammer?

  What are you talking about? You live in Texas. How long were they not in school in Texas?

• 6:56Speaker 03

  Um, so the 12-year-old missed three months of her kindergarten.

• 7:02Caleb Hammer?

  In Texas?

• 7:03Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 7:03Speaker 03

  And then first grade.

• 7:05Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, well, believe it or not, we're not like, and they're not schooling from home.

• 7:09Speaker 03

  Not at this point.

• 7:10Caleb Hammer?

  Right now.

• 7:10Speaker 03

  But for first grade, the problem was is she would have actually missed most of the year, would have been on different classes.

• 7:15Caleb Hammer?

  I understand that year specifically, but that was also, if I'm not mistaken, oops, six years ago.

• 7:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:19Caleb Hammer?

  So, uh, what the are we talking about?

• 7:23Speaker 03

  Because he was homeschooled, so he's cool with it.

• 7:25Caleb Hammer?

  Uh huh. You're wearing a Looney Tunes shirt at 37.

• 7:31Speaker 04

  Cause my mother bought it for me.

• 7:32Caleb Hammer?

  Are we sure this has worked out? Are we sure we want to replicate this?

• 7:37Speaker 03

  That's why mom does the schooling and not dad.

• 7:40Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah.

• 7:40Speaker 03

  Because he doesn't want to help.

• 7:42Caleb Hammer?

  And do kids eat?

• 7:42Speaker 04

  No, I do want to help.

• 7:43Caleb Hammer?

  Do kids eat with mommy on a daily basis?

• 7:46Speaker 03

  Do the kids eat what I eat?

• 7:47Caleb Hammer?

  Mm-hmm.

• 7:48Speaker 03

  No.

• 7:48Caleb Hammer?

  Or do they eat different?

• 7:51Speaker 04

  Well, they mostly eat what we eat. They, it's just the younger two that don't.

• 7:56Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 7:57Caleb Hammer?

  The one that's afraid of stairs?

• 7:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, he has food aversions. He's going, we're getting a new doctor to get him reevaluated to see if it's possible. He previously had tongue.

• 8:07Caleb Hammer?

  What about the six-year-old?

• 8:08Speaker 03

  He eats a lot of the foods. He's gotten better. I've gotten him to.

• 8:10Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, very good. So I'm sorry, how much do you make per paycheck?

• 8:15Speaker 03

  Um, let's see. It's been about 550, I think, lately. Cause I had to take off quite a bit for blood transfusion and a major surgery.

• 8:27Caleb Hammer?

  So 550 a what? Paid every other week?

• 8:30Speaker 03

  It's twice a month, so.

• 8:31Caleb Hammer?

  550 every other week. Okay, very good. So 1,100, old buddy, Peter, I hope you make more money than that for this many kids. What the? Um, but we'll get into that in a second. So what was your big disorder that caused you to be morbidly obese?

• 8:46Speaker 03

  Um, so I had come to find out I didn't have fibroids. I had polyps and my uterus was five times its normal size.

• 8:52Caleb Hammer?

  A woman had polyps on her uterus. As someone without a uterus, you know, I'm just looking it up. The uterus was five times her size. Would this cause her to be five times the normal normal body weight of a human?

• 9:22Caleb Hammer?

  Right? Cause you said that's a disorder that.

• 9:24Speaker 03

  They told me that that was what was causing so many issues that.

• 9:27Caleb Hammer?

  Well, so many issues that caused the.

• 9:29Speaker 03

  So the game, because I had, I was under 300 pounds and as things were getting worse and they told me that was what was causing me to continue to gain weight.

• 9:36Caleb Hammer?

  Your issues or the polyps on the uterus?

• 9:39Speaker 03

  They, they said the polyps. Now that I found a new doctor and we discovered they were actually polyps. He originally, I was told they were originally fibroids and was told they were no big deal. But the doctor who removed them and found they were polyps, that he said that actually impacts everything.

• 9:53Caleb Hammer?

  The Cleveland Clinic and NIH, and the NIH

• 10:01Caleb Hammer?

  says that no, in the most extreme documented case in a large uterus or polyps, more commonly fibroids, right? Does not make a woman five times normal body weight.

• 10:11Speaker 03

  I was just going by what's out, you told me.

• 10:15Caleb Hammer?

  Hmm. Let's just say for clarity.

• 10:18Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 10:19Caleb Hammer?

  Does it cause rapid weight gain? Cause this is kind of what happens on the show, right? Like, we're gonna go into the budget, we're gonna go into the money, we're gonna go into all that. The thing is, I mean, you spent approximately 700, 500, 750, just about, I'm going out to eat. Would maybe that have something slightly to do with?

• 10:44Speaker 00

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• 11:09Caleb Hammer?

  Being large, because they always blame it on something diagnosed and not any personal behavior.

• 11:17Speaker 03

  Oh, I'm not the one who normally goes out to eat, though.

• 11:19Speaker 04

  It's me.

• 11:20Caleb Hammer?

  She doesn't go out to eat. What do you eat?

• 11:23Speaker 03

  I normally eat at home.

• 11:24Caleb Hammer?

  No, the usual sense of rapid fat or fluid weight gain, it does not. So I'm a little confused.

• 11:30Caleb Hammer?

  Cause you got big quick, right? Well, big girl.

• 11:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:33Caleb Hammer?

  Quick. I mean, the reason I'm interested in the subject specifically is there's just such misinformation around obesity as a fat or people, mostly women, take no accountability for their decisions around their morbid obesity. Where men are just like, yeah, I eat too much. And like, fat positivity took, you don't really even eat.

• 11:53Speaker 03

  No, yesterday ate twice.

• 11:55Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, well, that was yesterday. Let's talk about the average day.

• 11:57Speaker 04

  That's a normal thing.

• 11:59Speaker 03

  Lately, in the last, probably two years, that is the thing I don't normally eat.

• 12:03Caleb Hammer?

  Do you have a normal, average day?

• 12:05Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 12:06Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, very good. What do you eat, the first thing you wake up in the morning?

• 12:09Speaker 03

  I either have a protein shake or I have some scrambled eggs.

• 12:12Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, how much scrambled eggs? How many eggs in the scrambled eggs?

• 12:15Speaker 03

  Probably three.

• 12:16Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, or a protein shake. How big of a protein shake?

• 12:19Speaker 03

  The little box carton ones are like, I think.

• 12:21Caleb Hammer?

  So, one little thing this big?

• 12:23Speaker 04

  Eight, eight to six ounces or something like that.

• 12:25Speaker 03

  11 ounces, I think, or 12 ounces.

• 12:27Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, 12.

• 12:27Speaker 03

  They're not very big.

• 12:30Speaker 04

  And sometimes with those scrambled eggs, we'd have bacon and sauces mixed in with it.

• 12:36Speaker 03

  No, most of the time, it's vegetable.

• 12:38Speaker 04

  Well, we also put vegetables into it, too.

• 12:39Speaker 03

  I like.

• 12:40Caleb Hammer?

  With the, with the bacon and?

• 12:42Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 12:43Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, very good. It's evolving. Three scrambled eggs with sausage and bacon. I clearly care about this subject. There's so much fat positivity and just insane things that are gonna literally kill generations of people. Bacon and veggies mixed into it. Very good. What do you snack in between breakfast and lunch? Be honest.

• 13:11Speaker 03

  I'll snack her. I, I, I can actually show you my, my regular meals if you want to see what I've been, what I normally eat.

• 13:16Caleb Hammer?

  Potentially, I'm just asking the question first, what do you snack?

• 13:19Speaker 03

  So I have a peanut, a little individual peanut butter with a small thing, individual thing of caramel and apple, green apples. My nutritionist approved it as a little treat with.

• 13:34Caleb Hammer?

  I'm not saying that.

• 13:36Caleb Hammer?

  I'm just collecting information.

• 13:37Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, she also does eat Chick-fil-A for once in a while as well with that.

• 13:41Caleb Hammer?

  With that?

• 13:42Speaker 03

  But what is my Chick-fil-A order? Most of the time, what is my Chick-fil-A order?

• 13:46Speaker 04

  A sandwich.

• 13:49Speaker 03

  Wow. No, what is my Chick-fil-A order? Then the last six months is not.

• 13:54Speaker 04

  It has been a sandwich.

• 13:55Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, okay, you tell me your Chick-fil-A order.

• 13:57Speaker 03

  In the last six months, my normal Chick-fil-A order is a side salad.

• 14:00Caleb Hammer?

  What salad?

• 14:01Speaker 03

  Side salad.

• 14:04Speaker 03

  So the side salad with the bell peppers.

• 14:06Speaker 04

  But your sandwich has bacon on it, it has that grilled chicken on it, the cheese.

• 14:09Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, well, a normal today, though.

• 14:11Speaker 03

  My normal lately has been the side salad with the bell peppers and an eight pound grilled nugget.

• 14:18Caleb Hammer?

  How many?

• 14:19Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Just earlier this week, you had the sandwich.

• 14:24Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no, no, hold on, you want to talk about it. You're the one who went and ordered me that chicken sandwich, did you not?

• 14:30Speaker 04

  Before even I ordered that one, before that one, you had the chicken sandwich.

• 14:34Speaker 03

  Because you told me I didn't need a salad.

• 14:37Speaker 04

  You ordered the salad with it anyways.

• 14:39Speaker 03

  You told me I needed more than the salad, is exactly what you told me.

• 14:42Speaker 04

  Cause you always complain that you're hungry.

• 14:45Speaker 03

  But I was gonna do the grilled nuggets and you said that wasn't.

• 14:47Speaker 04

  You always complain that you're hungry afterwards.

• 14:50Speaker 03

  No, I don't always complain I'm hungry.

• 14:51Speaker 04

  Yes, you do.

• 14:52Speaker 03

  That's only if I haven't eaten all day last day because I've been busy.

• 14:55Speaker 04

  Doesn't matter, you still complain that you're hungry.

• 14:57Speaker 03

  So if I choose to get what I want, you gripe at me because I'm eating.

• 15:00Speaker 04

  You gripe at me all the time for my choice of food.

• 15:02Caleb Hammer?

  Normal Chick-fil-A is the side salad with the bell peppers and eight grilled nuggets.

• 15:06Speaker 03

  The eight grilled nuggets, yes.

• 15:07Caleb Hammer?

  No dipping sauce with the grilled nuggets?

• 15:08Speaker 03

  I don't do the dipping sauce, but I do the zesty apple cider vinegar.

• 15:13Caleb Hammer?

  Zesty apple cider vin.

• 15:18Speaker 03

  Vinegar.

• 15:18Caleb Hammer?

  Agar at, very good. Okay, so that's our snack, what's lunch?

• 15:23Speaker 03

  Oh, that was, that wasn't a snack.

• 15:25Speaker 04

  That was lunch.

• 15:25Speaker 03

  That's lunch, you goofball. I was talking about my snacks still and you brought in the Chick-fil-A. That is not a snack.

• 15:31Caleb Hammer?

  So your snack is the caramel pack with the peanut butter pack and an apple?

• 15:35Speaker 03

  It's normally two, because we get the little bitty tiny, yeah. We normally eat the little, like, lunchbox sized Granny Smith apples.

• 15:43Caleb Hammer?

  Very good. Okay, and nothing else in that snack?

• 15:46Speaker 03

  No.

• 15:46Caleb Hammer?

  Then the lunch is that side salad.

• 15:48Speaker 03

  With the nuggets.

• 15:49Caleb Hammer?

  With the nuggets and the zesty apples. Okay, very good. Okay, snack between lunch and dinner.

• 15:56Speaker 03

  So that is normally a vegetable, it's either like celery or carrots.

• 16:01Caleb Hammer?

  How many carrots?

• 16:03Speaker 03

  It's a cup. So I don't know.

• 16:05Caleb Hammer?

  Of carrots, what are you dipping them in?

• 16:07Speaker 03

  Greek yogurt with ranch powder mixed in.

• 16:10Speaker 04

  You said this is for dinner?

• 16:11Speaker 03

  No, we're all snack before dinner.

• 16:13Speaker 04

  He just said dinner.

• 16:14Speaker 03

  He said before dinner, between lunch and dinner is what he just asked me.

• 16:18Caleb Hammer?

  That's what homeschooling does.

• 16:20Speaker 03

  You don't know how to listen.

• 16:21Speaker 04

  No, I pulled, no, my mother pulled me out of, out of public school because of stupidity of teachers.

• 16:26Caleb Hammer?

  You barely made it through that sentence.

• 16:29Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, very good. And dinner.

• 16:33Caleb Hammer?

  Your normal dinner, average dinner.

• 16:35Speaker 03

  Lately, average dinner is.

• 16:37Caleb Hammer?

  What's lately?

• 16:38Speaker 03

  Since I got us a Ninja Foodies because we don't have a.

• 16:41Caleb Hammer?

  When's that?

• 16:41Speaker 03

  Last two months.

• 16:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, two months.

• 16:43Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, what's your normal, average dinner, come on?

• 16:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's grilled chicken and.

• 16:47Caleb Hammer?

  How much do you consume?

• 16:49Speaker 04

  One, one, one big chicken breast.

• 16:51Caleb Hammer?

  One large chicken breast grilled in what?

• 16:57Speaker 04

  Just grilled.

• 16:57Speaker 03

  Just grilled with seasoning on it.

• 16:59Caleb Hammer?

  No oil?

• 17:00Speaker 03

  No, because they.

• 17:01Speaker 04

  It's an air fryer.

• 17:01Caleb Hammer?

  What's your size?

• 17:04Speaker 03

  Most of the time, it's a vegetable for me.

• 17:06Caleb Hammer?

  What vegetable?

• 17:07Speaker 03

  So like broccoli or.

• 17:08Caleb Hammer?

  How do you prepare it?

• 17:09Speaker 04

  It's one of those steamer bags from HEB.

• 17:12Caleb Hammer?

  Good.

• 17:13Speaker 03

  So it's either like broccoli or broccoli cauliflower, anything carrots. That's typically it for mine.

• 17:18Caleb Hammer?

  Do you verify? Okay, very good. Snack before bed?

• 17:21Speaker 03

  No, because I don't get to eat.

• 17:22Caleb Hammer?

  No dessert?

• 17:23Speaker 03

  Very rarely do I eat dessert.

• 17:24Speaker 04

  She, on dessert wise, she gets one of those little mousse pie things.

• 17:30Caleb Hammer?

  How common?

• 17:30Speaker 03

  Not very.

• 17:31Speaker 04

  It's maybe once every three days, if that.

• 17:33Speaker 03

  Not, not, not once every three days, maybe once a week, maybe?

• 17:36Speaker 04

  If that.

• 17:38Speaker 03

  No.

• 17:39Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, and what do you, what are you drinking throughout the day?

• 17:42Speaker 03

  Water.

• 17:43Caleb Hammer?

  No coffee?

• 17:44Speaker 03

  No, not.

• 17:45Caleb Hammer?

  No energy drink, no soda?

• 17:46Speaker 03

  No.

• 17:47Caleb Hammer?

  No tea, no nothing?

• 17:48Speaker 03

  If I do tea, it's a.

• 17:52Caleb Hammer?

  You only drink water from sunrise to sundown?

• 17:55Speaker 03

  I have been, yes.

• 17:55Speaker 04

  No, she drinks.

• 17:56Caleb Hammer?

  Have been since when?

• 17:57Speaker 04

  You drink every once in a while, probiotic or?

• 18:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, like I'll do a probiotic drink.

• 18:01Caleb Hammer?

  What probiotic drink?

• 18:03Speaker 03

  It's the cherry lemonade. It's a sparkling probiotic drink.

• 18:09Speaker 04

  Oh, and also with some of our dinners, we do eat sausage and mac and cheese in some of our dinners as well.

• 18:14Caleb Hammer?

  How frequently?

• 18:17Speaker 03

  Do you normally do that, like, once every two weeks?

• 18:19Speaker 04

  Once every two weeks or once a week, one, somewhere right there.

• 18:21Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so, I don't know, average days are a bit confusing. What else? What else do you drink? Come on. I mostly just drink water as well, but I still have like a Coke Zero.

• 18:31Speaker 04

  She does not chug soda.

• 18:32Caleb Hammer?

  Very good, okay.

• 18:33Speaker 03

  I mean, like, if I drink a tea, we're talking, it's.

• 18:35Caleb Hammer?

  Anything else in the average day?

• 18:38Speaker 03

  No, that's.

• 18:39Speaker 04

  Water is her thing.

• 18:40Speaker 03

  I, yeah, I have a, I have a 40 ounce cup that I keep on my desk of water. I have a 24 ounce of ice that I keep on my desk.

• 18:48Caleb Hammer?

  How tall are you?

• 18:49Speaker 03

  5'10".

• 18:51Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, cool. Well, that does its little calculation. It's just important because, I mean, your medical thing, it sounds like it doesn't really actually contribute to this. And it's just like, if you're the one taking care of your kids and they eat what you eat, I am concerned for the kids going forward because they are forced to be homeschooled because you are choosing that and they're not choosing it. You're literally forcing them to be homeschooled. Maybe they want to be at school, maybe they want to do sports, they don't know, don't answer for them. You're forcing them to do this, you're forcing them to eat what you want to eat. Come on, so I just want to see kind of what's going on here. Um, okay, very good. Peter, what do you do for a living?

• 19:25Speaker 04

  I work as a line tuck for.

• 19:26Caleb Hammer?

  Sure, that makes money. I like that, Peter, well done. What do you make?

• 19:30Speaker 04

  35 an hour.

• 19:31Caleb Hammer?

  Sure, how many hours a week?

• 19:32Speaker 04

  80 or 40, sometimes more.

• 19:35Caleb Hammer?

  What's your average paycheck and what is that frequency of paycheck?

• 19:37Speaker 04

  Average paycheck is every two weeks and after is about 1800.

• 19:41Speaker 03

  Bring home.

• 19:42Speaker 04

  Bring home.

• 19:43Caleb Hammer?

  That's his paycheck.

• 19:44Speaker 03

  Yeah. I just want to make sure he forgets that that's what he brings home because he has a bunch of stuff that comes out of his checks. Cause like, our insurance stuff comes out of his.

• 19:51Caleb Hammer?

  Very good. Okay, cool. So guys, how we doing in Arlington on that? 4,700 net a month.

• 19:58Speaker 03

  Struggling.

• 19:59Speaker 04

  Struggling.

• 20:00Caleb Hammer?

  Why, why are we having a little struggle? Well, why are we having a little struggle? What's going on?

• 20:05Speaker 03

  He has addiction to eating out instead of taking lunch.

• 20:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:09Speaker 03

  I bought him a, hey, I bought him, he asked me, I want to take my lunch. I said, okay, I'll buy you a lunchbox and ice packs and.

• 20:20Speaker 03

  That lasted a week.

• 20:22Caleb Hammer?

  He has a problem with food?

• 20:24Speaker 03

  I said eating out.

• 20:26Speaker 04

  I don't have a problem with food. I just eat out. She's right.

• 20:28Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so what? You're just eating out like your lunch and stuff? That wouldn't drive us into the struggle hole. That can't be what's going on.

• 20:33Speaker 04

  It's not always. It's not always for lunch. I always eat. Yeah, I sometimes eat out for breakfast as well.

• 20:38Caleb Hammer?

  Uh, one of them is a healthy root beer. Saw in BTS. You were having a healthy root beer, I guess, earlier. So I don't know. Um, you have three drinks on the floor?

• 20:47Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 20:47Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so I don't know if it's just water, but maybe you're just in a, in a special, a special day being here on Financial Audit.

• 20:52Speaker 03

  One is, uh, one's ice, one is water with a Nello super calm in it. And one of them is a root beer probiotic sparkling drink.

• 21:02Caleb Hammer?

  On your average day, you consume 2,600 calories. That's your average day. That's not when you throw in the extra things. The extra things being that mac that pops up or your little sandwich that pops up or that extra little drink like you're doing today or these other days you have, or her little dessert that she does a couple of times a week. Those add up, by the way, especially with low activity. Um, in reality, you and your lifestyle at your height and your uh, age, you should be at about 1,700 calories a day. So you consume extra 33% just about. So, okay, come on. Was it a disorder or is your behavior, just because nuggets are grilled?

• 21:43Caleb Hammer?

  Doesn't mean your portions and caloric amount for your age and height are good. Let's be real here.

• 21:49Speaker 03

  I'm basing my like meal off of what my nutritionist has approved for me to eat.

• 21:54Caleb Hammer?

  Does she approve this multiple desserts and this mac and cheese thing that you're doing? The protein shake, instead of the protein shake, all of a sudden we start putting in bacon and sausage into our eggs?

• 22:02Speaker 03

  Like, I track it all.

• 22:03Caleb Hammer?

  Are they approving that?

• 22:04Speaker 03

  So we meet once a week and she sees exactly, because I track exactly what I put in by pictures.

• 22:10Caleb Hammer?

  Now, for what it's worth, how, how much do you weigh?

• 22:12Speaker 03

  Right now I'm at 362.

• 22:16Speaker 03

  I was at 398 was my highest nine months ago.

• 22:20Caleb Hammer?

  Want to prove it?

• 22:21Speaker 03

  What, on a scale?

• 22:22Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah.

• 22:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:23Caleb Hammer?

  Okay. That takes away five pounds. We love the Springer scale. Bring it out. She consented. Ah, because, I mean, yes, you're 2,600 calories or so that you consume on a daily basis. That is likely for your height and weight, a decrease from your maintenance because you're just so large. So that probably actually does make you.

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• 23:10Caleb Hammer?

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• 23:19Caleb Hammer?

  That was rude.

• 23:20Speaker 04

  That was very rude.

• 23:21Caleb Hammer?

  Don't, don't say that, Cass.

• 23:22Speaker 04

  That was, that was very rude.

• 23:24Caleb Hammer?

  So naughty. It says 342.2. Add five pounds to it because the scale's broken in five. 347, that's still less than what I told you. Well done. I like that. And it is because, again, your 2,600 calories is likely less than your maintenance. I'm going to be real with you. Your debt is not the same as everyone else's. You've got your own unique mix of credit cards, maybe some medical bills, personal loans and collections, whatever. Your interest rates are different. Your payments are different. Your life is different. So why do you need some one size fits all solution that treats you like a number? Some generic calculator that spits out, just pay more, as if you hadn't thought of that already. That's what sets PDS apart. They don't just look at your balance and say, good luck. They work to understand your specific scenario and help provide alternative solutions to becoming debt free.

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• 25:36Caleb Hammer?

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• 25:45Speaker 03

  I know. We've been working on me making more better choices and stuff.

• 25:48Caleb Hammer?

  What was it, 231?

• 25:51Speaker 03

  It said 242 plus the five and my nutritionist's helping me with like.

• 25:55Caleb Hammer?

  I love it. No, I love the two losing weight. That's an exciting thing.

• 25:58Speaker 03

  She's created, you know, workouts that I can work with recovering from a serious back injury and.

• 26:04Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 26:04Speaker 03

  I have a treadmill, so yeah.

• 26:07Caleb Hammer?

  Yep, you're class two obese. It's interesting because she's just like, she looks bigger than like the class three obeses and four obeses that we've had on the show. But listen, I am glad that you are going down. Um, okay. Uh, also, why are you calling me rude? You were calling her fat. You call her fat all the time. You were calling her fat in the pre-interview like 50 times. You're like, she's such a fatty. What a fat. She's so fat. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

• 26:28Speaker 03

  I mean, I'll admit, I'm not skinny. I've never been skinny my whole life. I'll be, I've been fat and overweight my entire life. I'll admit it, but.

• 26:35Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, I'm not picking on you anymore. It's him who was like insulted that I called you a fat when he calls you fat like every five seconds. So what the?

• 26:42Speaker 03

  I mean, there's probably, that's probably the reason why he decided that, uh, other girls are more important than me.

• 26:50Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, you know, it isn't Financial Audit without that. What happens? And do you blame him? But what happened?

• 26:57Speaker 03

  Uh, he's been cheating since like six months in our marriage.

• 27:02Caleb Hammer?

  Have you guys been married?

• 27:04Speaker 03

  We've been 17 years, 17 and a half.

• 27:06Caleb Hammer?

  Brother, what are you, what the are you doing?

• 27:10Speaker 04

  I have no.

• 27:11Caleb Hammer?

  Incredible response. No, how about you just actually answer the question, what the are you doing? I don't know you. We're not friends. Tell me what you're doing.

• 27:21Speaker 04

  I don't know what the I'm doing. I have no idea.

• 27:23Caleb Hammer?

  You don't know what you've done? You don't know the cheating that you've done? Then tell me. I don't know. I don't know you.

• 27:30Speaker 04

  I know you don't know me. I'm just saying, I don't know what I was doing, to be honest.

• 27:34Speaker 03

  Making stupid, poor decisions.

• 27:35Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, my gosh. Do they, do they not understand the question? Do they actually? What has he done?

• 27:40Speaker 03

  What has he done? Uh, we weren't even, we didn't even make it to our first wedding anniversary, the first time he cheated. He walked out, moved in with another girl, lived with another.

• 27:49Speaker 04

  On that note, on that.

• 27:51Caleb Hammer?

  It's extreme.

• 27:51Speaker 04

  Let's see, I was lied to when I got to Arlington in the first place. Because I, it was told that I had a job lined up.

• 27:58Speaker 03

  And then he said he had a good job working with his cousin, doing, uh.

• 28:01Speaker 04

  No, it was, no, that was

• 28:06Speaker 04

  that was, that was way after that.

• 28:10Speaker 04

  That was way after that.

• 28:11Speaker 03

  You, the first time we moved to Arlington, we were there a whopping.

• 28:16Speaker 04

  And before we even moved to Arlington.

• 28:17Caleb Hammer?

  I'm so confused. You were lied about your job working with your cousin, so you moved in with another woman?

• 28:21Speaker 04

  No, so her mom got a job.

• 28:25Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 28:25Speaker 04

  When we moved up to Arlington, I was told there was a job lined up and I was lied to about it.

• 28:31Speaker 03

  And we didn't know until we got there. It's not like I put that on you.

• 28:34Speaker 04

  And, and, but I already had a good, I had a good paying job, already, already doing it.

• 28:39Caleb Hammer?

  How does all this make you move in with another woman and start six months after marrying her?

• 28:45Speaker 04

  Because I was pissed off. That's why.

• 28:48Caleb Hammer?

  How'd you meet this other woman?

• 28:50Speaker 04

  Through my cousin, through a different cousin.

• 28:53Caleb Hammer?

  Was the woman a cousin?

• 28:54Speaker 04

  No, it's not. I don't do Alabama. Sorry.

• 28:57Speaker 03

  No, she's just a psycho bitch. Literal psycho bitch.

• 29:00Caleb Hammer?

  Which one, the cousin?

• 29:01Speaker 04

  No.

• 29:02Speaker 03

  No, the girl that he moved in with. Psycho bitch.

• 29:04Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, why'd you move in though? Were you in love with this woman?

• 29:08Speaker 04

  No.

• 29:09Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, did you even know what was happening?

• 29:11Speaker 03

  Oh, I found out quick, fast and in a hurry.

• 29:12Caleb Hammer?

  How'd you find out? What happened?

• 29:14Speaker 03

  Um, because I found out when he got a ticket for no insurance because he was still on my entrance and didn't have a copy of it. And he needed me to send it. And I was like, why am I sending this? Why do you need it for a court in, in Umbel? Because I was like, send me the taken information so I can see exactly what you need.

• 29:28Caleb Hammer?

  Where'd you think he was?

• 29:30Speaker 03

  I had no idea. I, he told me he was moving back to his parents' house.

• 29:33Speaker 04

  No, actually I moved in with my grandparents at the time.

• 29:36Speaker 03

  He told me his parents, but I guess it was his grandparents, but.

• 29:38Caleb Hammer?

  You guys think you were still, did you think you were still together?

• 29:41Speaker 03

  He pretty much quit contact. So.

• 29:44Caleb Hammer?

  So it sounds like he left you more than cheating.

• 29:47Speaker 03

  Well, so no, he had cheated before this chick.

• 29:49Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, yeah. What was that?

• 29:50Speaker 03

  Uh, so we rang in the new year together.

• 29:54Caleb Hammer?

  You got married one month?

• 29:55Speaker 03

  We got married in May of 09.

• 29:57Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 29:58Speaker 03

  And running, ringing in 2010, I went to sleep and he left to go cheat on me with a chick. And the only reason I found out was because I woke up and he wasn't in bed anymore.

• 30:07Caleb Hammer?

  And how'd you meet her?

• 30:09Speaker 03

  Online.

• 30:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:10Caleb Hammer?

  What were you doing?

• 30:12Speaker 04

  No, never heard of that.

• 30:14Caleb Hammer?

  What were you doing? How, online?

• 30:16Speaker 04

  Uh, chat rooms, stuff like that.

• 30:23Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, what'd you do?

• 30:25Speaker 04

  Just chat, I guess. I don't know. I just chatted with people.

• 30:28Caleb Hammer?

  No, when you met her.

• 30:31Speaker 03

  First time you met her and they went screwed around.

• 30:33Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, you

• 30:35Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, no remorse? Look at you. My goodness. He doesn't give a

• 30:40Speaker 03

  Hell, no.

• 30:41Caleb Hammer?

  What the is this relationship? You guys are crazy. This is insane.

• 30:45Speaker 03

  So then he he gets in two accidents. No, he got one accident.

• 30:51Caleb Hammer?

  Before the new year?

• 30:52Speaker 03

  Right after the new year before he leaves.

• 30:54Caleb Hammer?

  Well, he already cheated at that point.

• 30:55Speaker 03

  He's cheated. He gets in an accident and while I'm dealing with that whole mess because he didn't deal with it, he decides that he's gonna move out and basically goes nonchalant.

• 31:05Speaker 04

  Okay, so that accident that happened in Plano was not my fault. Thank you very much.

• 31:11Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, I don't really even care about the accident. I'm just like, you're

• 31:14Speaker 04

  Well, she's blaming me for it, so I'm gonna defend myself on that one.

• 31:16Speaker 03

  The ticket. And he's like, hey, do we still have insurance? And I was like, because of Texas law, yeah, you still have insurance. And he's like, can you send me a copy of it? And that's how I found out he'd moved in with a girl because the ticket was out of embalage. What are you doing?

• 31:32Caleb Hammer?

  The first one was obviously inexcusable cheating. It sounds like he broke up with you and like moved out.

• 31:36Speaker 03

  But I didn't know that. He didn't tell me that. He told me

• 31:38Caleb Hammer?

  Well, he was gone.

• 31:38Speaker 03

  Right. He said, we're gonna take it sometime so I can get a good job back home.

• 31:42Caleb Hammer?

  That's definitely cheating. Why'd you lie about it?

• 31:47Caleb Hammer?

  Wow, you're incredible. Okay, so he moved out. How did you guys get back together? What happened?

• 31:51Speaker 03

  So then Mother's Day, he shows up to his parents' house with the girlfriend at his parents' house on Mother's Day and brings divorce papers. And he's like, here, I want a divorce. I regret the day I married you. In front of his parents.

• 32:04Caleb Hammer?

  I get it. How big was she?

• 32:06Speaker 04

  Who? Her? Lighter than she is now.

• 32:09Speaker 03

  Oh, a hell of a lot lighter back then.

• 32:10Speaker 04

  That's what I just said. A lot lighter now.

• 32:13Speaker 03

  I was like 260, maybe.

• 32:16Caleb Hammer?

  Wait, wait, how much she weighed?

• 32:17Speaker 03

  Actually, I don't even think I was at 260 at that point.

• 32:19Caleb Hammer?

  Wait, wait, wait. Are you 347?

• 32:22Speaker 03

  342.

• 32:22Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, I put in two. Or seven, because we have to add. Oh, I was gonna say, this makes no sense that you look like that, but you're only class two. Oh, no shit. Okay, 347. Okay, so she was class two obese. So I mean, that's fine. Yeah, you regretted marrying her. I think we all would. That makes sense. So.

• 32:42Speaker 03

  So while he's with her, she steals my phone that apparently he had taken and I didn't know it.

• 32:49Speaker 04

  That was my phone.

• 32:50Speaker 03

  The BlackBerry was mine.

• 32:51Speaker 04

  No, the BlackBerry was mine.

• 32:52Speaker 03

  Then how did it have all my stuff in it?

• 32:54Speaker 04

  I don't know. Because it was my BlackBerry.

• 32:56Speaker 03

  You had the black one. I had the maroon one.

• 33:00Speaker 03

  Yes, you had a black one. I had a maroon one. She took the maroon one.

• 33:05Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 33:07Speaker 03

  Anyways, so because she had my phone with all my stuff in it, she started trying to steal my identity. And the only reason I ended up finding that out was because her address was showing up on my credit report.

• 33:16Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, but how'd you guys get back together?

• 33:18Speaker 03

  So after that, I was like, hey, I can't sign these divorce papers because my name's not correct on them.

• 33:23Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 33:24Speaker 03

  And he's like, what do you mean? I was like, I never changed my name. You knew that. I knew that. This paper's not legal. Did you not read it? And he's like, oh, I'll get it fixed and and get you to sign it.

• 33:33Speaker 04

  Well, anyways, we met back up at my parents' church.

• 33:36Speaker 03

  In November at Thanksgiving.

• 33:39Speaker 03

  And he's like, I made a mistake. Yeah.

• 33:41Caleb Hammer?

  You owned up.

• 33:42Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 33:43Caleb Hammer?

  What made you regret it?

• 33:47Speaker 04

  Man, I don't even know anymore, to be honest.

• 33:50Caleb Hammer?

  Incredible. Okay, and you're like, sure.

• 33:54Speaker 03

  So we spent some time talking and took a while and then we ended up getting back together.

• 34:00Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 34:01Speaker 03

  And things were good for a while until they weren't.

• 34:06Speaker 03

  And he has continued. We got back to back together and I thought he had quit talking to her. And I realized that wasn't the case because he was in the army and she started calling from my phone. She had my phone, my family's phone numbers, his family's phone numbers, his command staff's phone numbers. And was calling our families in the middle of the night, called his command staff and said, you have to convince him to come back to me. She's wrong for me.

• 34:35Caleb Hammer?

  It's official. We have our first class four obese person.

• 34:43Caleb Hammer?

  This is incredible. I've waited for this forever.

• 34:46Speaker 03

  Better and healthier.

• 34:47Caleb Hammer?

  And I I I I compliment you for that. I absolutely do. I wish you took more accountability that you got there because of your eating and not because of a disorder. Stop calling that shit.

• 34:57Speaker 03

  Probably also a big thing.

• 34:58Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, maybe the eating from your stress, but it was still because of what you

• 35:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, I used to eat horribly. I did for a long time.

• 35:04Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 35:05Speaker 03

  And I

• 35:05Caleb Hammer?

  Until two months ago. Yes.

• 35:06Speaker 03

  No, the nine months, nine months.

• 35:08Caleb Hammer?

  Nine months, but two months ago, you changed your dinner. I like, I get it. But it's like,

• 35:12Speaker 03

  I was gonna say two months was my surgery.

• 35:13Caleb Hammer?

  That will help you continue that trend is actually recognize that it was you and your behavior that got you there in the first place, not a disorder that didn't actually contribute to it. And not stress. So you still get to cope and choose what you do with the things that happen in life.

• 35:25Speaker 03

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• 35:52Speaker 03

  Poking mechanism.

• 35:53Caleb Hammer?

  Good. And again, I'm complimenting you for that, but I do not want you. At the beginning, you were blaming it on any other thing except for you, which again, only fat women do. Fat men do not do this. I don't know what it is. I'm a girl's girl. I'm on the woman's side usually on the show. Fuck you.

• 36:09Speaker 03

  No.

• 36:09Caleb Hammer?

  You're being a stupid Okay, but I'm glad you're losing weight. I do. That is behavior that is good. You're still class four, which is very impressive. Maybe you were class five before. Okay, so you brought him back in. This was years ago. You guys have been good since?

• 36:22Speaker 03

  Oh, no, he's cheated.

• 36:25Speaker 04

  It's been multiple times. I'll I'll own up to that.

• 36:28Speaker 03

  I know of at least

• 36:28Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, will you? Will you own up to something you factually did? What a hero.

• 36:33Speaker 03

  I I know at least 10 women.

• 36:38Speaker 03

  One reached out on Facebook.

• 36:42Caleb Hammer?

  How is that possible? Why were you with him? Why were you continuing to reproduce with him? 10?

• 36:51Speaker 03

  Because sadly, I listen to everybody else but myself. I listen to the church. I listen to my family.

• 36:56Caleb Hammer?

  Church said be with the cheater.

• 36:57Speaker 03

  Yep, sure did.

• 36:58Caleb Hammer?

  What church are you going to?

• 37:00Speaker 03

  A church I no longer go to. I'll be flat on that.

• 37:02Caleb Hammer?

  And who else said stay with the cheater?

• 37:04Speaker 03

  His parents. His parents told us to stay together.

• 37:06Caleb Hammer?

  His parents aren't a reliable source of

• 37:08Speaker 03

  My family told us to stay together. My own my own attorney told me to stay with him when I filed for divorce.

• 37:15Caleb Hammer?

  Well, maybe. Oh, you you filed for divorce?

• 37:16Speaker 03

  I later than filed for divorce. Yes.

• 37:18Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, well, okay. After he moved back in, when did you figure out he cheated with woman number three?

• 37:24Speaker 03

  Um, I don't remember how I found out about like three and four and five. Six messaged me on Facebook and said, oh, are you married?

• 37:35Caleb Hammer?

  There's four more after that. Where were you meeting this with these women?

• 37:39Speaker 04

  Online.

• 37:40Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, but like what? What platform?

• 37:43Caleb Hammer?

  Or is the platform

• 37:45Speaker 04

  I don't think the platform's even around anymore.

• 37:47Caleb Hammer?

  It was only one single platform?

• 37:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:50Speaker 03

  So that one reached out on Facebook and then tried to backtrack and say, oh, she was reaching out to the wrong woman. And then I was asking her questions and she described my car and the car seat. And he ended up admitting it. And so I was like, I was like, honey, you you can't lie now. I I know it was you. He admitted to it.

• 38:07Caleb Hammer?

  What was causing you up to the six times? Like, what was just going through your head? As best you can. I know it was a bit ago. As best you can. What was like, what what was pushing you?

• 38:16Speaker 03

  I can tell you what caused supposedly his excuse for one of the others, which was his ex fiance and her husband.

• 38:22Caleb Hammer?

  Three way?

• 38:23Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 38:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:25Caleb Hammer?

  Right. Train on your ex fiance?

• 38:27Speaker 04

  I wouldn't say a train, but okay.

• 38:29Caleb Hammer?

  Choo choo.

• 38:30Speaker 03

  Anyways, that was an ex fiance that he, before we got ever met, he said he dumped her because she cheated on him.

• 38:39Speaker 03

  And so I found out about that. And then he told me that they were done. Oh, it gets better with her.

• 38:45Caleb Hammer?

  Well, does it?

• 38:46Speaker 03

  Oh, yes. Because after she got divorced, he decided to have a relationship with her and

• 38:56Speaker 03

  after I found out I was pregnant with number five because he promised me he wasn't gonna do anything again.

• 39:01Speaker 03

  Oh, it gets worse.

• 39:02Caleb Hammer?

  He promised like the 50th time. Okay, go on.

• 39:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was at work before I injured my back and um, he brought her to the park with my kids there and then brought her to my house while I was at work and told my kids not to tell me.

• 39:17Speaker 05

  She calling me crazy. I feel like some prince ain't back in the ages. I'm talking like some shady. You working that job?

• 39:24Speaker 03

  And

• 39:25Caleb Hammer?

  Woman, why are you still around? This is fucking insane. This is insane.

• 39:31Speaker 03

  So after that, that was like the end of us being in a relationship together. So we live in the same house. We are still legally married. We are no longer in a relationship though.

• 39:38Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, today?

• 39:40Speaker 03

  The last four years since that one, we are not in a relationship together. We live in the same house. We're still legally married, but we do not have a relationship. We co pamper.

• 39:47Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 39:47Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, we are not.

• 39:48Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, shit.

• 39:50Speaker 04

  She has her room. I have my room. We're both separate rooms.

• 39:52Caleb Hammer?

  I've never experienced this before.

• 39:54Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 39:55Caleb Hammer?

  Whoa.

• 39:55Speaker 03

  Because of his work schedule, I compromised for us to currently stay together in a house. So I have my room. That's also where I work from.

• 40:03Caleb Hammer?

  You're out there, bitches, out cheating.

• 40:05Speaker 04

  No.

• 40:06Caleb Hammer?

  What?

• 40:07Speaker 04

  I haven't touched anybody since since that incident.

• 40:09Caleb Hammer?

  You can. You're now you're actually not together.

• 40:11Speaker 03

  Because we agreed.

• 40:12Speaker 04

  We agreed.

• 40:12Speaker 03

  The agreement was in order for us to stay in this position, nobody has a boyfriend or girlfriend. Nobody brings another person to the house because

• 40:19Caleb Hammer?

  That part's fine.

• 40:19Speaker 03

  I got pissed off. Because here's the other thing. In order for him to go see somebody, he's either gonna have to do it in his work truck or he's gonna have to take my car.

• 40:26Speaker 04

  And it's her car.

• 40:27Caleb Hammer?

  Bro.

• 40:28Speaker 03

  No.

• 40:28Speaker 04

  I can't afford Uber.

• 40:30Speaker 03

  Hold on. Ask him how much money he gets per paycheck right now because of the finances. No, no, that he gets as his spending money. That is his play money anyways.

• 40:40Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, you guys are literally not together.

• 40:43Speaker 04

  Nope.

• 40:44Caleb Hammer?

  But she's getting your money and then he she hands you

• 40:46Speaker 04

  Because I agreed to pay all the bills.

• 40:48Speaker 03

  This is, hold on, hold on, hold on. This was the agreement so that he did not have to pay because of how long we've been married and everything.

• 40:54Caleb Hammer?

  You went from extreme cheater to extreme

• 40:57Speaker 04

  Let's put it this way. The reason we agreed to this because we also agreed a few years ago that we would never do child support.

• 41:03Speaker 03

  So he decided

• 41:04Speaker 04

  The court makes more money off of you than you make your own child support.

• 41:07Caleb Hammer?

  All right, bro's thought about this for a while. Almost like he's been sticking it in 50 women a day. Yeah, no shit.

• 41:12Speaker 03

  So the agreement was that in order to avoid spouse support and child support.

• 41:16Caleb Hammer?

  Which would have been over two random months. When you were getting into these chat rooms after every time you promised not to, I just want to know what was going through your head. Try your best.

• 41:24Speaker 04

  Absolutely nothing. That's the problem.

• 41:25Caleb Hammer?

  What was? What were you feeling unsatisfied?

• 41:28Speaker 03

  He told me I was boring and bad, but he wouldn't try anything new.

• 41:30Caleb Hammer?

  Probably. Shut the up. You can't move. So.

• 41:34Speaker 04

  She pretty much said it. I was bored.

• 41:36Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, okay, that's something. That's something. So you just wanted more, a little more freaky, a little more, you know.

• 41:42Speaker 04

  Well.

• 41:42Speaker 03

  No, he wouldn't freak with other people.

• 41:44Caleb Hammer?

  Hmm?

• 41:45Speaker 03

  Freaky with other people.

• 41:46Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah.

• 41:46Speaker 03

  He wouldn't, if I asked to do something, he wouldn't do it.

• 41:49Caleb Hammer?

  What the could you do?

• 41:50Speaker 03

  Oh, a lot, apparently, because then he'd come back and complain about how poor it was with them, is what he would do.

• 41:55Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 41:56Speaker 03

  And he flat out told me he goes.

• 41:57Caleb Hammer?

  He regretted cheating, but really, all he can do with you is stick it in the blowhole.

• 42:04Speaker 04

  I guess so. I don't know. I don't know.

• 42:07Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so you guys don't.

• 42:09Speaker 03

  Oh, no.

• 42:11Speaker 04

  No.

• 42:11Caleb Hammer?

  Good on you. So.

• 42:13Speaker 03

  Good on me.

• 42:14Speaker 04

  Good on her.

• 42:15Speaker 03

  Because that boy and the whole time we've been together, never got it off.

• 42:18Caleb Hammer?

  Yes. Yeah, you probably got the aids. Uh, so, okay, you weren't exciting. So you, I mean, you were just like, how, when you guys were married, how frequently are you guys? Oh, you are married, but you mean together.

• 42:30Speaker 03

  In the beginning, it was quite frequently.

• 42:32Caleb Hammer?

  Of course, in the first year, but like, let's talk about the majority of the.

• 42:35Speaker 03

  No, I'd say about half of it. It was still quite, it was several times a week.

• 42:38Caleb Hammer?

  And then the second half?

• 42:40Speaker 04

  It pretty much almost died off.

• 42:41Caleb Hammer?

  What changed there?

• 42:43Speaker 03

  The more frequently cheating.

• 42:44Caleb Hammer?

  And how, you found out every time? How?

• 42:46Speaker 03

  I don't know if I found out about all of them. I just.

• 42:48Caleb Hammer?

  Did she find out about all of them?

• 42:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:51Caleb Hammer?

  Wow, okay. Okay, did you ever go, like,

• 42:56Caleb Hammer?

  get with anyone else?

• 42:58Speaker 03

  No.

• 42:58Caleb Hammer?

  So why can't he be with anyone now? Like, that actually doesn't make sense.

• 43:01Speaker 03

  That was his. That was his saying.

• 43:04Speaker 04

  That's my doing.

• 43:04Caleb Hammer?

  I think honestly, bro just gets off on there being a rule to not be with people and then he's with people.

• 43:10Speaker 04

  But I'm not with anybody. That's the problem.

• 43:12Caleb Hammer?

  Uh huh, yeah, uh huh, mhm, sure. So.

• 43:15Speaker 03

  I can't say if he is or not, because like, he knows the passcode to my phone. I don't hide anything from him.

• 43:21Caleb Hammer?

  So then, like, what am I doing? What are we looking for? Cause this is, I've never had a relationship like this in four years of this show, four and a half, almost.

• 43:28Speaker 04

  What we're doing is trying to figure out why we're struggling so much with our finances. That's what we're doing.

• 43:33Caleb Hammer?

  Guys, your marriage is a joke. If your marriage is a joke, finances is one of the first things to go. It's so complicated. There's no trust in this household. It's impossible. And finances are built on trust.

• 43:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, they are.

• 43:49Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, but if she's controlling the finances, right?

• 43:52Speaker 03

  But let's also discuss.

• 43:53Caleb Hammer?

  Clearly, we're in this situation. Why are you allowing her to control the finances then?

• 43:56Speaker 03

  Hold on, ask, answer this, because how many times I've asked you to sit down so you can see what's going on?

• 44:03Speaker 04

  Several times.

• 44:04Speaker 03

  Many times. He won't.

• 44:06Caleb Hammer?

  Why?

• 44:06Speaker 03

  I don't, he goes, you just deal with it. I don't care. As long, he goes, just let me make sure I get some money when I get paid. That's exactly what he'll tell me.

• 44:13Caleb Hammer?

  Hmm.

• 44:14Speaker 04

  I feel as long as the bills are paid, I'm fine.

• 44:16Caleb Hammer?

  Why'd you get with her, dude? She could have, and I know I've been memeing on you a lot on this episode, and you consent to do it, right?

• 44:22Speaker 03

  Oh, I'm good.

• 44:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:23Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, there you go. Am I talking about the thing you said not to talk about?

• 44:26Speaker 03

  I'm good. You're good.

• 44:27Caleb Hammer?

  Exactly. Chat, we do this in a consensual, happy way. That's why I was allowed to bully her, cause she's, I, she also asked for permission to bully me back, and I said, yes. So before all the TikTokers freak out, Instagram comments are like, nah, protect the fatty. Um, uh, which I am too, so protect me. The thing is, even with all the memeing on her, she could have been building a life with someone who loves her, with someone who respects her.

• 44:56Speaker 04

  Matter of fact, I told her, told her to do that when I'm, when we've, uh, finally separated.

• 45:00Caleb Hammer?

  Yes. Think about the decade before then that you fucked up. Now she's locked in this situation with like, uh, two handfuls of kids. So it's not as simple as at that point, she produced five kids with you?

• 45:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, five.

• 45:16Speaker 04

  Five.

• 45:16Caleb Hammer?

  Five kids with you? Go be on your own. No. You locked her into that situation, and that is so pathetically unfair, because you decided to prioritize your nut.

• 45:28Speaker 03

  But you wanna, see, this is the worst part of that. When I got pregnant the first time, he swore up and down I was cheating, because he swore up and down that his doctor's word was.

• 45:36Caleb Hammer?

  That you were cheating?

• 45:37Speaker 03

  That I was cheating, that his doctor's word was gold, that he couldn't have kids.

• 45:41Speaker 04

  That's what the doctor told me.

• 45:42Speaker 03

  And yet, and yet, we have five together.

• 45:46Caleb Hammer?

  Did you ever do a paternity test?

• 45:48Speaker 04

  No.

• 45:49Speaker 03

  And why? Because he swears, there ain't no question about that those kids are his, because they look so much like him. And I said, I'll do one. There ain't no question about it. I, I don't have anything to hide. And he's like, I don't need to. They look just like me.

• 45:59Speaker 04

  The thing is, is she never brought it up. She never brought, they got the package or anything to do it. And she says she volunteers to do it.

• 46:07Speaker 03

  Oh, so now you think, now you have questions about it?

• 46:10Speaker 04

  No, that's no, I never said I had questions. I said, you never brought it back up.

• 46:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean.

• 46:15Speaker 04

  And you never volunteered to go get the damn things to get it done.

• 46:17Speaker 03

  Because why should I pay for it? I know that I didn't do anything wrong.

• 46:20Speaker 04

  Well, who'd be paying for it? It'd be me, cause it's off of my finances, as it is.

• 46:23Speaker 03

  Okay, but that's what my thing is, is if you're saying we need to have it done, then why don't you make the effort if there's any potential question in your mind?

• 46:29Speaker 04

  All right, fine. If you want it done, I'll get it done.

• 46:31Speaker 03

  Did I say I wanted it done? Why do I need to have it done? I have no question about it.

• 46:35Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, that's fair. It's your question, right? So just do it if you want to, or let it go.

• 46:40Speaker 04

  I've let it go a long time ago.

• 46:42Caleb Hammer?

  You have objectively locked her, when she could be with someone who's loving her, for the past 15 years, and have those five kids with someone who loves her, pleases her, respects her, doesn't cheat on her, isn't a complete fuck up.

• 47:02Caleb Hammer?

  What you've done is disgusting in this relationship. And now she's stuck. Like she gets stuck in the doorway, am I right?

• 47:12Caleb Hammer?

  Still had to come back and get you. Sorry.

• 47:13Speaker 03

  No, you're good.

• 47:15Caleb Hammer?

  It's fucked up what you've done.

• 47:16Speaker 03

  It is, and he doesn't care.

• 47:18Caleb Hammer?

  I can tell. He has no remorse.

• 47:23Speaker 03

  Sometimes I wonder if he is actually happy being a parent.

• 47:27Caleb Hammer?

  Doubt it. You're probably a psychopath, right? Like, in the, in the non-insulting, but clinical ways. You don't care for her, though. Like, I feel like, and you face no remorse. There, you, you have no remorse. I mean, in the more clinical way, a psychopath, not like, you know, just throwing it out there like a buzzword.

• 47:45Caleb Hammer?

  The fact that you have no regrets and you just continue to do shit?

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• 48:29Caleb Hammer?

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• 49:14Caleb Hammer?

  Go to Calebhammer.com, where the Caleb Hammer Financial Resources part of the pinned comment or description below, and save a shit ton of money. She told Devin, the producer of the episode, that you're a bad dad. Why would she say that?

• 49:27Speaker 04

  All right, because I don't always interact with my kids sometimes. I will admit that.

• 49:31Caleb Hammer?

  You don't interact with your kids?

• 49:32Speaker 04

  Sometimes, not always.

• 49:33Caleb Hammer?

  What does that mean?

• 49:35Speaker 03

  He's a big gamer.

• 49:37Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, well, there's nothing wrong with playing video games.

• 49:39Speaker 03

  But here's the difference. When we lived before we moved into the house we're in now, um, he, his room became the living room. When we walked our separate ways, and he was no longer in the same room with me, because the kids needed space, he took the living room. And he couldn't hide from the kids, because he was in the living room. Everything circled around the living room. Now that we're in a house and he's upstairs and he has his own room, that's where he stays, because.

• 50:03Speaker 04

  But here's the thing, but ask her how long she always stays in her room.

• 50:07Speaker 03

  But the kids come in my room.

• 50:08Speaker 04

  But you lock the door.

• 50:09Speaker 03

  I lock the door when I need, when I need, like, time, when I'm working. How am I supposed to have my kids in my room when I'm working?

• 50:15Speaker 04

  I didn't say against when you were working. I said.

• 50:17Speaker 03

  You're talking about that my door is locked.

• 50:18Speaker 04

  Okay, how about after you get done with work? Your door stays, still stays locked? And who, who brings you your, who brings you your dinner? How often do you actually go in the kitchen and grab your own dinner for yourself?

• 50:28Speaker 03

  Okay, if I come in, they continue to get my plate, you're like.

• 50:31Speaker 04

  How often, I said?

• 50:32Speaker 03

  Hold on, let me finish. If I go in there to get my plate, you tell me I'll take care of it and bring it to you.

• 50:38Speaker 04

  Not always.

• 50:40Speaker 03

  There.

• 50:40Speaker 04

  But not, but 90% of the time, I bring you your food to you, or the, one of the kids bring it to you.

• 50:44Speaker 03

  Because normally, I'm just getting off from work.

• 50:46Speaker 04

  And then you ask them to close the door and lock it, so nobody else goes in there.

• 50:49Speaker 03

  So that I can breathe for a few minutes after work, because I, literally, I get up in the morning and I have the kids. If I am on a break from work, I'm taking care of the kids. I get off from work and I'm still taking care of the kids. On your days when you're off, you stay in your room, do you not? Do I ever?

• 51:04Speaker 04

  No, not, no, no, no, no, no, no. I do not always stay in my room.

• 51:07Speaker 03

  I didn't say all the time. I said a lot of the time you spend it in your room, do you not?

• 51:10Speaker 04

  I spend a lot of time in my room, but also, I do deal with the kids.

• 51:15Speaker 03

  I didn't say you don't do it all the time.

• 51:16Speaker 04

  But that's the thing, you're making it sound like I'm always in my room 24/7.

• 51:20Speaker 03

  But when I went to DC and I came back from DC,

• 51:23Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 51:24Speaker 03

  The kids told me that you made them eat nothing but sandwiches while I was gone, when I left meals prepared for you.

• 51:28Speaker 04

  Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I did not make them just eat sandwiches.

• 51:31Speaker 03

  You even said that's all they ate.

• 51:34Speaker 04

  Maybe like two days.

• 51:36Speaker 03

  I'm just going based off of what you and the kids told me when I got back from DC.

• 51:39Speaker 04

  But I did cook them meals.

• 51:40Speaker 03

  Okay, all I can do, though, is go based off of what y'all told me, right?

• 51:43Speaker 04

  I guess so.

• 51:46Speaker 04

  But I did cook them meals.

• 51:48Speaker 03

  And I'm not the one who always says you're the bad dad. The kids say that you don't seem to think that you don't love them.

• 51:54Caleb Hammer?

  What, your kids say that?

• 51:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:56Caleb Hammer?

  Why? What's the, what's the reason they bring up? Well, yeah, I mean, again, like, I think you, you are some kind of like psychopathic a little, right? Cause you don't show remorse in this conversation for what you've done to her. If you've done anything bad around your kids, you probably don't show remorse either. You're very flat. They probably don't feel love from you, right? Not that you've done something bad, I don't know. Has CPS ever been called in this house?

• 52:20Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 52:21Caleb Hammer?

  Fuck me.

• 52:22Speaker 04

  Twice.

• 52:23Caleb Hammer?

  Fuck me.

• 52:24Speaker 03

  And who was the reason why?

• 52:26Speaker 04

  Can you tell them what the first time was?

• 52:28Speaker 03

  It was the same reason both times.

• 52:29Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, okay.

• 52:30Speaker 04

  Okay, and who was the main one?

• 52:32Speaker 03

  No, we're not gonna go on that topic, though. We already said we were gonna just get that topic.

• 52:35Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 52:35Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, we'll get into that. We'll get into that.

• 52:39Speaker 03

  That's the post-show. We already agreed to that.

• 52:43Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, I guess something's coming for the, well, okay, stick around for that. Um. Well, now I'm excited, but, uh. Does he at least help clean and do dishes and stuff like that? Who's doing that? Who's doing the work around the house?

• 52:58Speaker 03

  The 12 year olds, one who has agreed to do the dishes.

• 53:01Caleb Hammer?

  What, what does the parents, well, I can get do some chores, but you guys don't do anything?

• 53:04Speaker 03

  I just said the dishes. That's what she has agreed to take on.

• 53:08Caleb Hammer?

  Who cleans and stuff?

• 53:09Speaker 04

  I do help clean, yes.

• 53:10Caleb Hammer?

  If you're locked in, okay, so.

• 53:12Speaker 03

  We both help clean the house.

• 53:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 53:13Speaker 03

  I'm the one who does most of the laundry.

• 53:15Caleb Hammer?

  Locked in his room all the time? If he's cooking for you and if he's cleaning.

• 53:20Speaker 03

  But he doesn't cook all the time. And he doesn't clean all the time.

• 53:23Caleb Hammer?

  Not all the time, but you're making, uh.

• 53:25Speaker 03

  Maybe.

• 53:25Caleb Hammer?

  I can't tell how egregious it is him hiding away.

• 53:28Speaker 03

  On his days off, that's where he spends the majority of his time off on his days off.

• 53:33Caleb Hammer?

  Not like, I, so.

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• 54:02Caleb Hammer?

  You only take the kids to the park when you have another woman with you?

• 54:04Speaker 04

  We don't have a park.

• 54:06Caleb Hammer?

  There's a park somewhere. You live in DFW, there's parks.

• 54:11Speaker 04

  Just don't go to them.

• 54:13Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, unless you have another woman with you, right?

• 54:14Speaker 04

  I don't have another woman with me at all, period.

• 54:16Speaker 03

  That's because that's when the last time you took him to the park was.

• 54:20Caleb Hammer?

  He doesn't get the reference. He was homeschooled.

• 54:24Caleb Hammer?

  Get, can we get these kids out of the house and not homeschooled? I think they need human interaction, man. But the babysitter out there is probably the first human interaction they're getting in years.

• 54:33Speaker 03

  Oh, no.

• 54:34Caleb Hammer?

  This is not the house.

• 54:35Speaker 03

  Mom makes sure they get space.

• 54:35Caleb Hammer?

  This is not, not space.

• 54:37Speaker 03

  I mean, like.

• 54:38Caleb Hammer?

  No, I want them in a classroom with kids and go into the playground and lunch. Building those social skills, getting away from their toxic parents. Good this household. I'm sorry, I know you don't trust the school system or whatever, but even just like throw that all away. There is benefit of human interaction.

• 54:58Speaker 03

  There is.

• 54:59Caleb Hammer?

  And sports and all the shit that comes to schools, learning musical instruments, art.

• 55:06Speaker 03

  Well, and we talk about like, you know, how great he is and how, you know, everything.

• 55:12Caleb Hammer?

  Who is?

• 55:13Speaker 03

  This one he thinks he is.

• 55:14Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, he thinks.

• 55:15Speaker 03

  But we talk about the gaming. Why don't we talk about how he was so engrossed in a game? That he didn't realize our now six year old, um, completely stopped breathing in his arms.

• 55:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was in another room. He had him in his arms, playing a game, was so engrossed in the game. And if it wasn't for the outlet, my son probably wouldn't have made it.

• 55:40Caleb Hammer?

  It wasn't for the what?

• 55:41Speaker 03

  He had an outlet on.

• 55:42Speaker 04

  It's a.

• 55:43Caleb Hammer?

  What is that?

• 55:43Speaker 03

  It's an oxygen monitor.

• 55:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:46Speaker 03

  That goes on their foot.

• 55:47Caleb Hammer?

  So it started beeping?

• 55:48Speaker 03

  The alarm went off on it and I.

• 55:49Caleb Hammer?

  So he has breathing issues?

• 55:50Speaker 03

  No.

• 55:51Speaker 04

  No.

• 55:51Speaker 03

  It was.

• 55:51Caleb Hammer?

  Why was he wearing that then?

• 55:53Speaker 03

  Well, because he, he had some complications. He had gotten, he was breached born and his foot was stuck in my ribs. Um, when he was born and so like they had to physically force him out.

• 56:04Caleb Hammer?

  Why he stopped breathing?

• 56:06Speaker 03

  So he was holding him and the way he was holding him like this while he's playing his game. Got him chin to chest, which cut off his airflow.

• 56:13Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, okay. I'm sorry.

• 56:15Speaker 03

  And.

• 56:16Caleb Hammer?

  Nothing makes me more angry than when it's like kids and pets.

• 56:20Speaker 03

  Thankfully, because of my training, I was able to get him to start breathing, but he literally had no clue. Like he was actually, lips were blue by the time I, it registered enough for the alarm to go off.

• 56:29Caleb Hammer?

  You're a piece of shit.

• 56:33Caleb Hammer?

  I want to hear about the CPS thing, but I have to start getting in these finances. So.

• 56:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, let's go.

• 56:37Caleb Hammer?

  So we'll, we'll get into that in a moment and whatever you have saving for the post show.

• 56:44Caleb Hammer?

  I don't even know. They're hiding it from me too. Okay. Uh, what do you guys think your combined household financial score is zero to 10? Zero being the worst, 10 being the best.

• 56:53Speaker 03

  One.

• 56:57Speaker 04

  A two, maybe.

• 56:58Caleb Hammer?

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• 57:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:39Speaker 03

  That goes to the post show.

• 57:41Caleb Hammer?

  This is for the post show?

• 57:42Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 57:44Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 57:45Speaker 03

  That's for.

• 57:45Caleb Hammer?

  I'm even more excited. Attorney General is getting involved. What the is happening here? Okay. Uh, Ken Paxton, you need to call in for the post show? What's going on here? Loan to the family. What family? Who's family?

• 58:00Speaker 03

  His parents.

• 58:01Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, 4,000, 1,350. What the?

• 58:06Speaker 03

  The 4,000 was so that we could move.

• 58:09Caleb Hammer?

  From and to?

• 58:10Speaker 03

  We moved out of Baytown.

• 58:13Caleb Hammer?

  What? What?

• 58:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:15Speaker 03

  Out of Baytown.

• 58:16Caleb Hammer?

  Oh.

• 58:17Speaker 03

  Up to Arlington.

• 58:18Caleb Hammer?

  Okay. Okay, very good.

• 58:21Speaker 03

  We were in a house, in a place that was mold. We found out had mold and that was why I was super sick for a long time.

• 58:26Caleb Hammer?

  That's why we have fully funded emergency funds. What the are we doing?

• 58:28Speaker 03

  We don't have an emergency fund. Why do we have?

• 58:30Caleb Hammer?

  That's why I said you need to.

• 58:32Speaker 03

  Have one. And he quit, but when we separated everything and he told me he was going to take care of his bills. I didn't know that my car was financed to an account attached to his car loan and a credit card that he quit paying. And so the cars got repossessed twice that I used the emergency fund to bail him out. The third time I no longer had an emergency fund.

• 58:52Caleb Hammer?

  So you guys separated your shit before you moved to Arlington?

• 58:55Speaker 03

  We once had our stuff separated and after that all happened, that's why he had me taken over.

• 58:59Caleb Hammer?

  And then you guys got your stuff together again and then separated again?

• 59:02Speaker 03

  So we didn't, we had separate finances at that time because that was after the girlfriend.

• 59:07Caleb Hammer?

  I need you to get away from this man.

• 59:10Speaker 03

  That's why I'm here.

• 59:12Caleb Hammer?

  To get away?

• 59:12Speaker 03

  So I can get my stuff in order since most of this has fallen on me so that we can.

• 59:17Caleb Hammer?

  Don't you want to be free in a way? You hate being around your kids. You hate being around your bitch wife.

• 59:23Caleb Hammer?

  Don't you want to be gone? So you can just.

• 59:25Speaker 04

  If she wants me gone, I'll step out the door this day.

• 59:26Caleb Hammer?

  I'm asking what you want.

• 59:28Speaker 04

  I don't give a to be honest.

• 59:30Caleb Hammer?

  Really?

• 59:30Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 59:31Caleb Hammer?

  You don't want to just be blowing loads in women?

• 59:33Speaker 04

  No.

• 59:34Caleb Hammer?

  I do. It's fun. What's wrong with it?

• 59:36Speaker 04

  I have no need for it.

• 59:38Caleb Hammer?

  Need? No, I have no need for it, but it's fun. Okay, he doesn't give a.

• 59:44Speaker 03

  No.

• 59:45Caleb Hammer?

  So it's the income side, cause he brings in the income for the household.

• 59:47Speaker 03

  Right.

• 59:49Caleb Hammer?

  Such a weird dynamic. What do you do with someone who doesn't care? Doesn't even care about the kid. Do you care about your kids?

• 59:55Speaker 04

  Yes, I do.

• 59:56Caleb Hammer?

  Well, then how are you telling me you don't care? Cause that is a part, isn't it?

• 1:00:00Speaker 04

  It is, yes. But I do care about my kids.

• 1:00:04Caleb Hammer?

  Then why do you, you care if you're there or not?

• 1:00:08Speaker 04

  Because we always fight. So what's the point of being there if, if we always fight?

• 1:00:12Caleb Hammer?

  Are you guys fighting all the time?

• 1:00:13Speaker 03

  Not all the time.

• 1:00:15Speaker 04

  We do have our arguments at times.

• 1:00:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:17Caleb Hammer?

  Now your guys is rules. You can't see other people or whatever. Do you feel like he's living up to that?

• 1:00:23Caleb Hammer?

  Do you suspect anything?

• 1:00:25Speaker 03

  Yeah. Why? Do you want to know why?

• 1:00:27Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, I guess, sure.

• 1:00:29Speaker 03

  So, Mr. I sent a text message to the wrong person.

• 1:00:35Speaker 03

  I'm sorry, I can't get you a birthday gift. It's not in the finances right now. And then started to break down our finances to somebody. But hold up, it gets better. In 17 years we've been married, I've never gotten a birthday gift.

• 1:00:49Caleb Hammer?

  That's insane, by the way.

• 1:00:50Speaker 03

  He got me, he got me a Christmas gift one time that he told me he got out of the trash. He's never gotten me anything for our anniversary.

• 1:00:56Speaker 04

  Get that out of the trash for you?

• 1:00:57Speaker 03

  That was the very first Christmas we were together.

• 1:00:59Speaker 04

  What was it? I asked, not when.

• 1:01:02Speaker 03

  Candle birdhouse thingy. It's like green. I don't even know what it was.

• 1:01:08Speaker 04

  Then if you don't know what it was, why are you trying to describe it?

• 1:01:11Speaker 03

  I don't know exactly what it was. It was, it looked like a little birdhouse and it was made, it was like a blue, green teal color. And you could put like a candle, I think, inside of it. I don't know what it was actually supposed to be because you're the one who got it, not me.

• 1:01:27Speaker 03

  And, but his birthday falls right before Christmas and I've always made sure that his birthday and Christmas presents are separated.

• 1:01:33Caleb Hammer?

  Uh, no, that's good. Yeah. You do seem like the better partner. Don't get me wrong, by far. Um.

• 1:01:39Speaker 03

  But he sent that to somebody. Um, I even once, and you know.

• 1:01:42Caleb Hammer?

  But he sent it to you on accident?

• 1:01:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, he sent it and deleted it thinking I didn't see it. And he's like, oh, I didn't mean to send that to you. And then I was like, oh, you mean you didn't mean to send to me that you couldn't afford to buy somebody a birthday gift?

• 1:01:52Caleb Hammer?

  Who'd you send it to?

• 1:01:55Speaker 03

  A friend.

• 1:01:56Speaker 04

  Which is a friend. That's it.

• 1:01:59Caleb Hammer?

  That you stick it in?

• 1:02:00Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:02:01Caleb Hammer?

  Have you ever loved her?

• 1:02:02Speaker 04

  Yes, I did.

• 1:02:03Caleb Hammer?

  Would you let her go through your Snapchat?

• 1:02:07Speaker 04

  Probably not.

• 1:02:09Caleb Hammer?

  Why?

• 1:02:11Speaker 04

  Cause I believe that our phones are our last safe space for anything.

• 1:02:15Caleb Hammer?

  This is the 10 times cheater. Get the away. This, yeah, it's not, he's never going to follow that rule. Dude gets off on the kink of cheating.

• 1:02:23Speaker 04

  But I haven't cheated in the last four years. I haven't done shit. That's the problem.

• 1:02:27Caleb Hammer?

  Except for text someone and not let her go through Snapchat. You won't, why, well, let her prove it.

• 1:02:32Speaker 04

  I don't even go through her phone. Cause I don't want to go through her phone.

• 1:02:35Caleb Hammer?

  Could you, she's never cheated on you.

• 1:02:36Speaker 04

  It doesn't matter. I don't want to go through her phone. I have no need to go through her phone.

• 1:02:39Caleb Hammer?

  This has nothing to do about her phone.

• 1:02:41Speaker 03

  I'm gonna, I'll be honest. You want to hear one thing? I was with somebody one time, but let's say when, when this happened.

• 1:02:46Caleb Hammer?

  Did he know?

• 1:02:46Speaker 03

  Oh, yes, he knows. When did it happen?

• 1:02:49Caleb Hammer?

  I don't know.

• 1:02:50Speaker 03

  It happened after he handed me the divorce papers, when I thought we were completely done with. So I didn't cheat because he had already handed me the divorce papers. And he was still living with the girl at the time. That's the only time I've ever been with anybody else in the 17 years we've been together.

• 1:03:03Caleb Hammer?

  And you went and got that South Dallas black, duh.

• 1:03:07Speaker 03

  Not South Dallas.

• 1:03:11Caleb Hammer?

  Well done. Good for her. She's getting blown out that by that BBC.

• 1:03:14Speaker 03

  But that's the only time I've been with anybody else.

• 1:03:17Caleb Hammer?

  See, I don't even care what you're doing.

• 1:03:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I'm just saying, if he wants to try to say I cheated, there, there is no cheating because he had already handed me the divorce papers by the time that happened.

• 1:03:26Speaker 03

  And then he turned around.

• 1:03:26Caleb Hammer?

  Finally got his catch, huh?

• 1:03:28Speaker 03

  And then apparently it wasn't grass, wasn't greener on the other side.

• 1:03:35Speaker 03

  Because there must have been something good if he kept coming back.

• 1:03:37Caleb Hammer?

  What's your relationship with this friend?

• 1:03:39Speaker 04

  Platonic.

• 1:03:40Caleb Hammer?

  Would you let me go through the Snapchat?

• 1:03:42Speaker 04

  Probably not.

• 1:03:43Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, he's cheating. Okay, yeah, um, a thousand to his family. What's that for?

• 1:03:49Speaker 04

  Uh, that was supposed to be for our-

• 1:03:51Speaker 03

  That was for us to go to a family member's funeral, for my family.

• 1:03:54Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, three hundred fifty? What's that for?

• 1:03:56Speaker 04

  Uh, the alternator on the, on the suburban.

• 1:03:59Caleb Hammer?

  So you guys never have money, to be clear. Uh, okay.

• 1:04:03Speaker 03

  Well, that three fifty wouldn't have happened had he actually taken care of the car like he said he had, and it stranded me coming home.

• 1:04:09Caleb Hammer?

  Bro, he's never done anything right in his life, so I don't, I would, I don't know why you would trust him to do that. Um, okay, uh, some Amazon on a firm.

• 1:04:18Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:04:19Caleb Hammer?

  Uh, what's the total load on? Oh, two thousand seven hundred twenty-three. What the [__] are you getting?

• 1:04:26Speaker 03

  Um, that has been a whole bunch of stuff for the house. There's like three things that are for me on there.

• 1:04:31Caleb Hammer?

  You need to take care of shit, and that means the similar, similar with your weight, the reason I spend so much time on that is it does come down to accountability, even if it's stuff for the house that isn't stuff for you. Is this stuff that you a hundred percent need? It is still choices in the end that you are choosing to purchase that might not be one hundred percent necessary for the survival of the household, that is putting you further into debt to where you can't afford a three hundred fifty dollar repair on an alternator.

• 1:04:54Speaker 03

  So, what is it? The HEB one was literally right after we moved in, and he had to have extra money because he was staying at somebody else's house because he couldn't transfer for work. Um, and that one's still getting paid off because I had no money for food. Um, there are two, one, no, there's three on there that are strictly just for me, and I'll admit it.

• 1:05:17Caleb Hammer?

  And you'll admit it.

• 1:05:18Speaker 03

  And I did pay off one this past week on the, made the last payment on it.

• 1:05:23Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, I'm sorry. Hey, listen, this is more of a concern. I don't want to insult you. If you notice, I've been doing this a lot this episode. Uh, when's the last time you've been to the dentist?

• 1:05:33Speaker 03

  Um,

• 1:05:37Speaker 03

  it's been years.

• 1:05:38Caleb Hammer?

  Years?

• 1:05:39Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:05:39Caleb Hammer?

  I'm sorry, that's the nastiest shit I've smelled in my life.

• 1:05:42Speaker 03

  I brushed my teeth this morning again.

• 1:05:43Caleb Hammer?

  Doesn't matter, go to the [__] dentist. It's, it's blasting me with like [__], it's bad.

• 1:05:48Speaker 03

  I-

• 1:05:49Caleb Hammer?

  And I sit across from a lot of stinky people. I'm just telling you.

• 1:05:52Speaker 03

  No, I understand.

• 1:05:53Caleb Hammer?

  I'm just telling you. Your minimum payment, it's like seventy-eight dollars a month, I don't know. Uh, this is [__] crazy. There's more firms. Yeah, yeah, it's [__] crazy.

• 1:06:02Speaker 03

  They're all in my name.

• 1:06:04Caleb Hammer?

  Wait, they're all seven, two thousand seven hundred twenty-three dollars?

• 1:06:07Speaker 03

  No, that's the total of everything.

• 1:06:08Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, I understand. That's your minimum payment. Okay, so it's, okay.

• 1:06:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, that, that total is everything.

• 1:06:14Caleb Hammer?

  Minimum's about three fifty then, across the whole month. Um, that's [__] crazy. Yeah, pull up your Amazon, let me see. If this is totally due for the [__] house.

• 1:06:25Speaker 03

  Most of the-

• 1:06:26Caleb Hammer?

  Your affirms are insane. You're just affirming for [__] ever. Nineteen different ones!

• 1:06:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:33Caleb Hammer?

  Show me!

• 1:06:34Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:06:36Speaker 03

  I'll tell you which three are mine, actually.

• 1:06:39Caleb Hammer?

  Let's see if you can win me back. What do you play? What video games?

• 1:06:43Speaker 04

  Mostly, uh, survival and resource management.

• 1:06:46Caleb Hammer?

  Like what?

• 1:06:47Speaker 04

  Like Dyson Fair Park project or program and Seven Days to Die.

• 1:06:54Caleb Hammer?

  That game, Seven Days to Die is great.

• 1:06:56Speaker 04

  I used to play Ark, but I got bored with it.

• 1:06:58Caleb Hammer?

  Seven Days to Die is fantastic. You've won me back slightly.

• 1:07:02Caleb Hammer?

  Not enough for me to think you're not a complete piece of shit, psychopathic maniac, but, you know. This is insane. This is Amazon, Amazon, HEB, Target, Amazon. It's like, you do, you affirm everything. What about Rust?

• 1:07:17Speaker 04

  Try to get into it.

• 1:07:18Caleb Hammer?

  Pussy. Let me see.

• 1:07:21Speaker 03

  And everything on Amazon isn't just for me.

• 1:07:23Caleb Hammer?

  I'm sure. Yeah, you're affirm, it's all [__] Amazon, Target, brute me, all this shit. Helio, what's helio? It's just like, it's every other [__] thing.

• 1:07:31Speaker 04

  When Helio, you're-

• 1:07:33Caleb Hammer?

  This is [__] crazy.

• 1:07:35Speaker 03

  The left-hand side is just-

• 1:07:35Caleb Hammer?

  This is all affirm that I'm going through, all affirm purchases, guys. This is [__] crazy. I could spend the time going through every single little thing here, but the whole balance goes up to that nearly thirteen thou, brute mate cups? What's a brute mate cup? Fifty, you have fifty of them being told. What the [__] is a brute mate cup?

• 1:07:50Speaker 04

  Brew.

• 1:07:51Caleb Hammer?

  Huh?

• 1:07:52Speaker 04

  Brewmate.

• 1:07:53Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, my [__] you, [__], I'm sorry. It's war!

• 1:07:58Speaker 03

  Hold on, he can't be completely out of it. He has two and the kids have some two.

• 1:08:02Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, you have fifty, though.

• 1:08:03Speaker 03

  That's a whole entire house collection.

• 1:08:05Caleb Hammer?

  And they have a couple, and he has a couple?

• 1:08:07Speaker 04

  The only reason I have a couple-

• 1:08:08Speaker 03

  I did sell some of mine in order to help pay some of our debt. I spent-

• 1:08:13Caleb Hammer?

  Sell them all! You [__] freak? Okay, you're getting some workout bands, as long as you use it, it's fine. We really need all these oral swabs, though. Who's sick?

• 1:08:23Speaker 03

  That, that oral swab was because it was recommended to be able to clean my ice machine that I have at home, to get in all the little crevices.

• 1:08:30Speaker 04

  You know, the little Sonic ice that you get from Sonic?

• 1:08:32Caleb Hammer?

  Great, that was a critical purchase.

• 1:08:34Speaker 03

  I've had it for a long time, and the one that I have now was-

• 1:08:37Caleb Hammer?

  More brute mate, endless brute mate. So you're affirming brute mate. Stuff for the house, go [__] yourself. Just like the morbid, morbid, morbid, morbid-

• 1:08:44Speaker 03

  So those brute mates I paid on my cash.

• 1:08:46Caleb Hammer?

  Obesity, still, that is money. The cash that could have been spent on the other things instead of having to affirm them is still offsets. Just like your morbid, morbid, morbid, morbid obesity, it is choices and personal behavior from the ice machine to the ice popsicle makers to the collapsible stool and the meat grinder.

• 1:09:05Speaker 03

  He broke one and had to replace it.

• 1:09:07Caleb Hammer?

  I don't care. It's still purchases you don't one hundred percent need to do. The glucose monitor, yes, you actually-

• 1:09:11Speaker 03

  That's his.

• 1:09:11Caleb Hammer?

  Because you definitely both have diabetes, right?

• 1:09:13Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:09:14Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:09:15Speaker 03

  I don't. And I just had a full, I just had a complete workup done, and I'm not, I'm not even pre-diabetic.

• 1:09:19Caleb Hammer?

  What's your blood pressure?

• 1:09:22Speaker 03

  Was seventy-six over, I mean, at one twenty-one?

• 1:09:27Caleb Hammer?

  Over one twenty-one?

• 1:09:28Speaker 03

  Flip the numbers, one twenty-one over seventy-six, sorry.

• 1:09:30Caleb Hammer?

  All right, let's check it.

• 1:09:32Speaker 03

  It's probably gonna be high now. I'll admit it, it's gonna be high.

• 1:09:34Speaker 04

  It's probably gonna be high right now because her, she's in pain.

• 1:09:37Speaker 03

  I'm not just in pain, I'm pissed.

• 1:09:39Caleb Hammer?

  Well, fair enough. Well, we'll see. Uh, but you're pissed all the time. Um, yeah, dude, you're just getting so much bullshit. That's so relief cap? Like, come on, the pads, that's fine, obviously, but good grips, containers, go [__] yourself. Glass bottles, go [__] yourself. What are we doing?

• 1:09:53Speaker 03

  The glass bottles is what I have to use to put my iron in because it can't be exposed to, it has to stay in the amber box.

• 1:10:00Caleb Hammer?

  Fuck your iron, I don't give a shit about you. What iron?

• 1:10:01Speaker 04

  She was anemic.

• 1:10:02Speaker 03

  That's why I have a blood transfusion.

• 1:10:04Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, that's fine.

• 1:10:05Speaker 03

  I was anemic and had a blood transfusion.

• 1:10:06Caleb Hammer?

  Ninety percent of it was bullshit that you don't need, that you need to take accountability for, or else there will never be anything. Never be anything getting done in this house.

• 1:10:16Speaker 03

  The pouches, the food pouches that you saw, like the plastic, they're reusable, those so that I don't have, right? And I'm just saying, I got those so that I don't have to keep buying it at the store.

• 1:10:24Caleb Hammer?

  So shut the [__] up, take accountability instead of making excuses, or else you're gonna be fat forever, or else you're gonna be in debt forever. You're managing the household finances and you're affirming everything. Come on over, you don't be scared. She's not that big. Well.

• 1:10:40Speaker 03

  That'll probably have to go down here.

• 1:10:42Caleb Hammer?

  Does that work like that?

• 1:10:44Speaker 03

  For down here? That's where the doctor always does them.

• 1:10:47Caleb Hammer?

  Well, Mark's doing it his own way, baby. He's, he's, uh, Dr. Mark's here. And Dr. Mark's doing, you know, his own- You know how the drill works, yeah? Keep your feet flat.

• 1:10:58Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. It's gonna be really high.

• 1:11:06Speaker 03

  Twenty-one over one oh nine, yeah, I knew it was gonna be high right now.

• 1:11:08Caleb Hammer?

  Say it again.

• 1:11:09Speaker 03

  One eighty-one over one oh nine right now.

• 1:11:12Speaker 04

  It's because she's in pain and she's pissed off.

• 1:11:14Speaker 03

  No, I'm pissed.

• 1:11:16Caleb Hammer?

  That's a hypertensive crisis.

• 1:11:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:11:17Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:11:18Caleb Hammer?

  That's our first hypertensive crisis. That is, you, you call nine one one hypertensive crisis, crisis.

• 1:11:23Speaker 03

  I'm good.

• 1:11:25Caleb Hammer?

  Well, you're objectively not.

• 1:11:26Speaker 04

  No, it's been worse.

• 1:11:27Speaker 03

  No. But my doctor says as long as I don't stay at there, I'm fine. I get this, when we've had a fight, it gets this high. Oh, yeah, no, I'm-

• 1:11:38Speaker 04

  It's been a lot worse than that.

• 1:11:40Caleb Hammer?

  What?

• 1:11:41Speaker 04

  For blood pressure, it's been a hell of a lot worse than that.

• 1:11:43Speaker 03

  Uh, my worst was-

• 1:11:45Speaker 04

  When you slipped and fell in the bathtub and had the birds cross your back?

• 1:11:48Speaker 03

  It was afterwards, but, um, it was two ten over one twenty.

• 1:11:55Caleb Hammer?

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• 1:12:34Caleb Hammer?

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• 1:12:59Speaker 03

  And I didn't, like, you didn't even know there was anything wrong. My doctor actually had me drive to the hospital, um, because there wasn't even an ambulance within forty-five minutes of us.

• 1:13:07Caleb Hammer?

  To clarify absolutely everything and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I am not a doctor, not a medical expert. Okay, all that being said, I'm glad you're starting to lose weight because right now you're technically, at least according to this chart, okay?

• 1:13:20Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:13:20Caleb Hammer?

  In a hypertensive crisis, and that is, I'm scared for you. You're a mother of children.

• 1:13:25Speaker 03

  Right. That's why I'm working on myself.

• 1:13:27Caleb Hammer?

  That's a-

• 1:13:28Speaker 03

  That's why I've gotten serious about working on myself.

• 1:13:29Caleb Hammer?

  They advise nine one one.

• 1:13:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:13:34Speaker 03

  I know.

• 1:13:36Caleb Hammer?

  What, am I [__] up by not calling nine one one right now?

• 1:13:39Speaker 03

  No, we're good. I know my body. I will tell you if I get concerned. No.

• 1:13:44Speaker 04

  No, she will. I will agree with her on that. She will. She will let you know. She knows her body more than you think she does.

• 1:13:53Caleb Hammer?

  I call nine one one if someone's BP is, what was it? One eighty-one?

• 1:14:03Speaker 03

  One eighty-one.

• 1:14:04Caleb Hammer?

  One oh nine?

• 1:14:05Speaker 03

  One oh nine.

• 1:14:06Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, I'm gonna follow its advice. You can take that off.

• 1:14:12Caleb Hammer?

  Because I do not want to, uh, [__] something up.

• 1:14:18Speaker 03

  No, I understand.

• 1:14:20Caleb Hammer?

  And I'm just, I'm not willing to allow a guest.

• 1:14:23Speaker 03

  I understand. I'm not-

• 1:14:24Caleb Hammer?

  So I'm just, I'm gonna follow the advice of what is given here.

• 1:14:27Speaker 03

  You can call nine one one if you think you're concerned enough and if they shut up.

• 1:14:30Caleb Hammer?

  I don't know. I'm just not willing to-

• 1:14:32Speaker 03

  I understand.

• 1:14:32Caleb Hammer?

  Lose someone on the show.

• 1:14:34Speaker 03

  No, I understand.

• 1:14:36Caleb Hammer?

  Um, if there is, do you have chest pain or shortness of breath?

• 1:14:38Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 1:14:39Caleb Hammer?

  No headache?

• 1:14:40Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 1:14:40Caleb Hammer?

  Fusion?

• 1:14:41Speaker 03

  No vision changes, no.

• 1:14:42Caleb Hammer?

  Okay. Okay.

• 1:14:47Caleb Hammer?

  That's what it says, call 911. We don't need to.

• 1:14:49Speaker 03

  Like I said, I will let you know if I get concerned.

• 1:14:51Caleb Hammer?

  I appreciate that, but I don't really give a shit about your concern. Because I am in the position where this is my office and I do not want ones I'm gonna fucking die in front of me.

• 1:14:58Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:14:59Caleb Hammer?

  Um, okay, that's Capital One, $4,490.65 with $156 minimum payment. Are you sure we should continue if this is pushing you to that limit?

• 1:15:09Speaker 03

  I'm good.

• 1:15:10Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, uh, you're purchasing, who, who is this?

• 1:15:13Speaker 03

  The card's in my name, that is a great.

• 1:15:15Caleb Hammer?

  Who's purchasing?

• 1:15:17Speaker 04

  Both of us.

• 1:15:17Caleb Hammer?

  Well, it's maxed out. You're purchasing on a card that you're only putting minimum payments to. It's gonna take 20 years to pay off. You will not be alive on this current trend, to be clear. And you will be out there like children or something. I don't know what you do, but you look like it. Apple, apple, real short.

• 1:15:34Speaker 03

  That was when I was recovering from surgery and I was on a binge of watching shorts.

• 1:15:38Caleb Hammer?

  Buddy, it's.

• 1:15:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know. I shouldn't have done it.

• 1:15:40Caleb Hammer?

  Well, that was two months ago. Uh, Chick-fil-A and an Apple bill. Like, what the fuck are we doing? Like, all the purchases are for, oh, that's the smutty videos?

• 1:15:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:15:52Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, he's not giving it to you, so get down there and [BLEEP]. Make sure you wash those hands, because I know [BLEEP].

• 1:15:59Speaker 03

  No, I don't do that. That's, I don't do that.

• 1:16:02Caleb Hammer?

  Masturbate?

• 1:16:02Speaker 03

  I don't.

• 1:16:05Caleb Hammer?

  It's okay to masturbate. I'm gonna let you know. I know you're approaching 40. You're still allowed to. I, I think, right? Is that, is it, Devin, is it legal for 40-year-olds to masturbate? Yeah. I'm just concerned. Okay, you're good. Uh, lightning's not gonna get you, maybe. I don't know. Um, these are not life necessities.

• 1:16:25Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:16:26Caleb Hammer?

  Okay? Gooning is not a life necessity. Chick-fil-A, all these Apple bills are not life necessities.

• 1:16:31Speaker 03

  Yes, sir.

• 1:16:32Caleb Hammer?

  Discover.

• 1:16:33Speaker 00

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• 1:16:58Caleb Hammer?

  Who's Discover?

• 1:16:59Speaker 04

  Hers.

• 1:17:00Speaker 03

  The card's in my name, yes. Not all the charges are mine.

• 1:17:04Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:17:05Caleb Hammer?

  $805.73 with a minimum payment of $33, but we're purchasing only making the minimum towards the 12 inches accruing. Car scores are a low 600s. Like, what the fuck are we doing? What did we purchase on? Uh, some gas, but also probably getting into bullshit in Deer Run. Trum, True Med Deer Run?

• 1:17:23Speaker 03

  So that was part of my, the cost to cover my treadmill. It was the only small part that our FSA didn't cover.

• 1:17:28Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, well, that part's fine.

• 1:17:30Speaker 03

  Because FSA covered the majority of the cost for my treadmill.

• 1:17:32Caleb Hammer?

  We don't know who said it, but Mika is actually saying that you deserve some good dick after this, after being with this man for so long. So, I don't know if he's volunteering, but, uh, you go out there and DFW again. Oh, speaking of that, why was CPS called?

• 1:17:48Speaker 03

  Because he hit one of the kids.

• 1:17:52Caleb Hammer?

  How is this episode getting fucking worse? Oh, God, God.

• 1:18:00Caleb Hammer?

  I've never heard that in this show. I don't even know what the fuck you do. Just tell me this story. Just tell me the story. I can't.

• 1:18:06Speaker 03

  I don't know exactly what happened. I wasn't there when it happened. And I got.

• 1:18:10Caleb Hammer?

  I don't trust his interpretation.

• 1:18:11Speaker 03

  And I got conflicting stories about what happened.

• 1:18:13Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, well, tell me both stories. I don't want to hear it from him.

• 1:18:15Speaker 03

  Um, so I got told at one point that she wasn't doing what she was told to do and she was talking back.

• 1:18:22Caleb Hammer?

  What age?

• 1:18:23Speaker 03

  Uh, eight.

• 1:18:27Caleb Hammer?

  Okay. Go on.

• 1:18:30Speaker 03

  And so the first time, he supposedly, yeah, there were two different ones. The first time, he supposedly just laid into her spanking.

• 1:18:40Caleb Hammer?

  He just wouldn't stop?

• 1:18:41Speaker 03

  From what I understand, yes. And the second time, he said he hit her in the face.

• 1:18:47Caleb Hammer?

  You were present for the second time.

• 1:18:48Speaker 03

  No, I wasn't.

• 1:18:49Caleb Hammer?

  Yes, you were. It was in your bedroom.

• 1:18:50Speaker 03

  I was not in the room when it happened.

• 1:18:51Caleb Hammer?

  It was in your bedroom. You were sitting on the bed, doing, you were sitting there looking at your damn phone. You weren't paying attention. She raised my hand, she raised her hand at me while getting angry at you too, and I slapped her across the face.

• 1:19:07Speaker 03

  But like I said, I did not actually see what happened.

• 1:19:10Caleb Hammer?

  But you were there in the room, not paying attention.

• 1:19:16Caleb Hammer?

  You were there.

• 1:19:18Speaker 03

  So I'm supposed to pay attention to you every second of the day?

• 1:19:21Caleb Hammer?

  Say that.

• 1:19:22Speaker 03

  Okay, that's what you said.

• 1:19:23Caleb Hammer?

  It was at night, in your bedroom.

• 1:19:25Speaker 03

  No, that was our bedroom back then. Don't try to say that was my room.

• 1:19:27Caleb Hammer?

  Anyways, the bedroom, you were there

• 1:19:32Caleb Hammer?

  when it happened.

• 1:19:33Speaker 03

  Okay, if I was, then I guess I was, and I, but I did not what happened.

• 1:19:36Caleb Hammer?

  Because you literally inspected her face and there was not a mark on her face, but you get a phone call from the school.

• 1:19:42Speaker 03

  And she had a red mark.

• 1:19:43Caleb Hammer?

  Saying there was a handprint across her face.

• 1:19:44Speaker 03

  The picture that they took was a bright red print like it had just happened. And the picture didn't, when they, CPS showed up.

• 1:19:49Caleb Hammer?

  His hand size?

• 1:19:50Speaker 03

  Oh, no, it was a lot smaller.

• 1:19:52Caleb Hammer?

  So it was probably from school?

• 1:19:53Speaker 03

  School, yes.

• 1:19:54Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, but the first one, you just wouldn't stop wailing?

• 1:19:56Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:19:57Speaker 04

  It was her, yes, I whacked her across the butt and I missed and I got across her waist and said, "Exactly."

• 1:20:05Speaker 03

  But the, they did, because CPS had him show up to the mark that was on her face at that time, and his print did not match it. And that's why I said I cannot say exactly what happened, because they were like, this just happened. And I was like, according to what she told me and he told me it was the day before. So, I didn't know. And the, the attorney that I had, that was when I actually, right after that was when I actually filed for divorce. And everybody convinced me to stay.

• 1:20:29Speaker 04

  Until, what?

• 1:20:31Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 1:20:31Speaker 04

  Few years ago? Something like that?

• 1:20:34Speaker 03

  But everybody convinced me, my own, even my own personal attorney convinced me to stay with him. And I did, I had the, I did have the papers drawn up.

• 1:20:41Caleb Hammer?

  I have to ask, has he ever hit you?

• 1:20:43Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:20:44Caleb Hammer?

  Do you promise to beat your wife and abuse her in sickness and in health?

• 1:20:50Speaker 03

  I do.

• 1:20:51Caleb Hammer?

  Tell me.

• 1:20:53Speaker 03

  Um, once I got knocked out.

• 1:20:56Speaker 04

  I did not knock you out.

• 1:20:57Speaker 03

  I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. I don't remember what happened. I woke up to an ambulance there and a police officer, as a cheer.

• 1:21:04Speaker 04

  All right, so what happened that night? You and I got into a full-blown argument. You tried to stop me from going out the door. I pushed you aside. I did not hit you.

• 1:21:16Speaker 03

  Okay, like I said, I don't remember what happened. I woke up.

• 1:21:18Speaker 04

  Panic attack, a severe one.

• 1:21:21Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:21:21Speaker 04

  I called 911 to have him check you out.

• 1:21:24Speaker 03

  Okay, like I said, I don't know. I don't remember that. I just remember.

• 1:21:27Speaker 04

  Called the sheriffs after I explained what was going on. I got arrested.

• 1:21:31Caleb Hammer?

  Stop.

• 1:21:32Speaker 04

  Why? I'm explaining what happened that night.

• 1:21:35Caleb Hammer?

  I want you to get the fuck out of my studio. I never want to see you again. Security's here. I don't want you here. You're a piece of shit, evil, disgusting creature. Please make sure he doesn't talk to anyone. I'm concerned for your safety after this. So to be completely honest, I'm concerned for your kid's safety. I had to message him and tell him to come go. I, I was concerned of kicking him off if he would lose a fit. He'd go crazy. This man is the most evil motherfucker that has ever been on this show, beating kids, beating, how many times has he hit you?

• 1:22:12Caleb Hammer?

  I am so sorry.

• 1:22:13Speaker 03

  And sadly, I tried to leave and everybody told me I was better off with him than without him. I even got divorce papers drawn up. And they told me I would regret doing it. And sadly, I stayed.

• 1:22:26Caleb Hammer?

  They are, everybody was wrong. Everybody was wrong and everyone, every, I don't, I don't even know.

• 1:22:34Speaker 03

  And sadly, once I lost all my family through everything, it was like, I couldn't.

• 1:22:41Caleb Hammer?

  Your family?

• 1:22:42Speaker 03

  So my mom passed away. And after that, I went no contact with her parents because I found out they'd been lying to me my whole life.

• 1:22:51Caleb Hammer?

  Jeez, for fuck's sake, what is happening?

• 1:22:54Speaker 03

  Um, I found out that they were protecting a registered sex offender and exposing me to him and I didn't know.

• 1:22:59Caleb Hammer?

  God, I can't, I can't stop this episode, man. What is this?

• 1:23:06Speaker 03

  So, I'm working on bettering myself because I've been through hell and back and I didn't give up.

• 1:23:11Caleb Hammer?

  Let's start with the first thing to better yourself.

• 1:23:13Speaker 03

  That's why I came to you, because I need to get this done too.

• 1:23:16Caleb Hammer?

  Get this man away from your kids yesterday. Get yourself away from him. I'm a, dude, listen, this show gets crazy, gets wild. I don't want him to be triggered and lose his shit after this, okay?

• 1:23:28Speaker 03

  I get you. I understand. I appreciate somebody, somebody's finally

• 1:23:36Speaker 03

  taking my side and not telling me to just deal with it. I appreciate it.

• 1:23:40Caleb Hammer?

  Deal with it? People are saying that?

• 1:23:42Speaker 03

  Yeah. They told me that he was a good guy. He didn't mean what he's done. He would get better. They said he took anger, anger management and everything would get better and.

• 1:23:50Caleb Hammer?

  I'm sorry, someone who cheats 10 times, someone who won't let you go through his phone right now, even though you've made that deal, someone who literally has knocked you out and was gaslighting, I'm sorry, no one knocks someone out from the story he told. He is gaslighting the fuck out of us right now. There is no, right?

• 1:24:07Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:24:08Caleb Hammer?

  He knocked you out? Okay, you tell me what really happened, because he's not.

• 1:24:11Speaker 03

  So, I don't know what led up to it. I don't remember a lot of that day. I know we got into an.

• 1:24:16Caleb Hammer?

  Because you got hit?

• 1:24:17Speaker 03

  Um, they don't know exactly what I hit on the porch. Um, but I was out when EMS arrived. The medics.

• 1:24:24Caleb Hammer?

  You were out, and that's why you can't remember anything?

• 1:24:26Speaker 03

  They said that's possibly why. They don't know if it was because of the trauma of what happened and my body was just trying to protect me from it. Um, or if it was that I, like, hit something that hard.

• 1:24:36Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, sorry, you, you tell me exactly what you think and remember then.

• 1:24:39Speaker 03

  I know, we got into an argument and I was outside, we were talking and I thought everything was better. I don't know if he hit me, he pushed me, what? Um, but I was knocked out, EMS arrived, I woke up to a medic attending to me. And he got arrested for a warrant outstanding for a ticket he didn't take care of, that I didn't know about. And I ended up getting checked out. And they told me everything was okay. There was no, they couldn't find any injuries in the ER or anything like that.

• 1:25:08Caleb Hammer?

  Poor woman, I am so sorry. I am so.

• 1:25:11Speaker 03

  And the second time, he had hit me in the face.

• 1:25:12Caleb Hammer?

  Jeez, for, what happened that? Can you remember that time, right?

• 1:25:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:25:16Caleb Hammer?

  What were you fighting about?

• 1:25:20Speaker 03

  Um,

• 1:25:23Speaker 03

  I don't remember the exact argument. It's been a while, but I remember that he got mad and I tried to walk away. And he shut the door and we kept arguing and then he smacked me and I had a handprint across my face.

• 1:25:41Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, well, just first things first. Listen, I've worked with my therapist for a while and he's helped me a lot. I'm going to

• 1:25:53Caleb Hammer?

  get you to sit down with my personal therapist. He's not an employee of mine, so he doesn't report to me or anything. You would be a client. I'm just paying for it.

• 1:26:00Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:26:01Caleb Hammer?

  So you need to work through some deep shit that has happened and I am so sorry for everything that has happened.

• 1:26:09Caleb Hammer?

  Um, and I know this doesn't, I mean, I'm just, all the resources I can give you, right? Obviously budget nap, course career certification to get a better job. You got, I gotta get you everything. But we're gonna send you as many resources as we can to, to like, no, like resources to get the [__] out. Um, uh, I'll personally is, I wanna verify some extra things that has happened here to make sure nothing is lying. I will, I will get you 5,000 hours from myself to make sure you're able to like get a place and get away from him. Whatever it is, I'll give you 5,000 bucks. We have to verify a few things before that happens, but I'll do that.

• 1:26:48Speaker 03

  No, you're fine.

• 1:26:48Caleb Hammer?

  But I'm literally being told he like ran out of the building. My security guard's standing outside of the building right now and we can't. And we've lost them.

• 1:26:57Speaker 03

  Too far because he's got the key to the rental car.

• 1:27:00Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, do not drive at this man. Uber or something.

• 1:27:03Speaker 03

  But I mean, all our stuff is in the rental car.

• 1:27:04Caleb Hammer?

  No, no, no, I need you. I'm scared.

• 1:27:07Speaker 03

  So I need to get our stuff at least, but he has the key to that rental car.

• 1:27:12Caleb Hammer?

  Uh, security, uh, said, he said, quote, "I don't give a [__], I'll just walk home."

• 1:27:19Caleb Hammer?

  Ah dude, this is.

• 1:27:23Caleb Hammer?

  Did the police believe you in all this?

• 1:27:25Speaker 03

  No. I will [__] deny it, but the officer told me, flat out told me that if he didn't care and he didn't regret what he did, he wouldn't have come back and called them for me. Because I was still out when the officer arrived as well.

• 1:27:41Caleb Hammer?

  What else has he done?

• 1:27:46Speaker 03

  Biggest thing has just been the cheating.

• 1:27:48Caleb Hammer?

  No, I think the biggest thing is hitting the kids and hitting you, I would say. And the constant cheating. His phone over there, well, we wouldn't be able to get in anyway.

• 1:27:57Speaker 03

  Cause I don't know his code.

• 1:27:59Caleb Hammer?

  Of course not. Okay. Listen, in this situation, this household, this is the actual reality of what is happening.

• 1:28:09Speaker 03

  Oh, I know.

• 1:28:10Caleb Hammer?

  Income that came in, the payroll hit of 5,500. And then payday advance hit of flex. You flexed 1,700.

• 1:28:20Speaker 03

  That's our rent payment, so I have it.

• 1:28:22Caleb Hammer?

  So you split it in two?

• 1:28:23Speaker 03

  I split it into two to make sure.

• 1:28:24Caleb Hammer?

  Crazy. The spending here was $7,065 on a household that brings in $5,560, which was less than the 4,200 I'm calculating from what you guys gave me. Unless I'm missing something, 4,700, maybe he worked more hours, maybe you did.

• 1:28:40Speaker 03

  Last paycheck he got, uh, in August, he had their quarterly bonus.

• 1:28:44Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, so exactly. So you make less than that. Listen, you will never be able to get away from him or get him away from you and rescue the kids and be able to take care of the kids. If you spend that much more money than you bring in, nothing will ever be fixed. You will always be dependent on him. You'll never be able to get away from him. This man has trapped you into what, you're the one that's 39 into your four decades now, four decades of not being, of not having freedom and with a terrible family, terrible man. The only way out is to get your finances under control and I'll help with that a little. Yes, and we'll get the resources and we'll try to get you a place.

• 1:29:26Caleb Hammer?

  You take control of your health, you take control of your finances, you cannot spend more than you bring in or you will never get away. You'll always need someone to come in and take care of the bills.

• 1:29:34Speaker 03

  I appreciate that.

• 1:29:35Caleb Hammer?

  Listen, at the lower income level, when it's just you and not him, you will, which by the way, uh, I know what you guys agreed, uh, report all this to the court and drain his ass of child support. I don't give a [__] about that agreement you guys did. Dude, it's hit the kids and he's hit you. We'll verify with some police reports before we, you know, go further and help him to make sure you're not lying, but either way, yeah, drain his ass of child support, get them in daycare that is subsidized and funded. I know we do that here. Uh, because you'll be on a lower income, get all the help and you're the kind of person where I don't complain about the government benefits of thinking people like you that fall back on it. You're the ones that it's there for.

• 1:30:18Caleb Hammer?

  You can't be getting your Chick-fil-A nuggets for lunch every day. You can't afford that. You can't be getting your little refresher. You can't afford that. You are on a strict meal plan and following a hardcore budget and going crazy. Okay? The fact is, listen, in here, we have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20. 20 individual different loans, not including the individual firms that is just one. We have a 401K loan. You have student loans. Okay, his 401K loan, he can go [__] himself. From medical loans to Upstart, repossessed cars.

• 1:30:59Speaker 03

  On his, yep.

• 1:31:00Caleb Hammer?

  Auto loan, OpenSky, double OpenSky. You have a self loan. You have a credit builder loan, a mission loan, Navy Federal Credit Union and all those affirms.

• 1:31:13Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:31:14Caleb Hammer?

  Rooms to go, all of this stuff, you will be forever

• 1:31:18Speaker 03

  In debt.

• 1:31:18Caleb Hammer?

  Trapped. No, no, no, no. Trapped of, he's only there because of the money, right? If he wasn't making money, would you still be with him?

• 1:31:25Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:31:26Caleb Hammer?

  Exactly. So the further you take care of this and get rid of the risk over your head,

• 1:31:33Caleb Hammer?

  then it's done.

• 1:31:33Speaker 03

  Can I tell you something? Do you wanna hear what his solution to this debt was?

• 1:31:37Caleb Hammer?

  Sure.

• 1:31:39Speaker 03

  When I mentioned that I had applied for this, he told me, well, we're gonna pay off the 401K loan and then we'll take out a new one to pay off all this debt and then the, the loan can come strictly out of my paycheck. That was his solution.

• 1:31:49Caleb Hammer?

  Behavior. That's the issue.

• 1:31:51Speaker 03

  That's why I said, well, I wanna come on here because at first he didn't really wanna come. I said, because I need another perspective because apparently I can't get any help from you on trying to get all of this cleared. And I wanna get rid of this because I know this is not beneficial for us to have.

• 1:32:05Caleb Hammer?

  Why did he come here today?

• 1:32:07Speaker 03

  I don't know. Probably because I asked him to, but I knew he wasn't really, didn't seem like he really cared.

• 1:32:14Speaker 03

  Because he didn't see.

• 1:32:15Caleb Hammer?

  He's still with you?

• 1:32:16Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 1:32:19Speaker 03

  Uh, wait, actually I do know because he can't do it on his own.

• 1:32:25Caleb Hammer?

  I don't care. Come. I'm being told from Devin right now that he was lying the entire pre-interview about things he was telling our story producer and all this stuff. He's just a liar. He's a gaslighter. He's a cheater. He's a beater. He's a bad person. He's a toxic individual. And he's someone that there's only a few people we've had to put into a system. I'm gonna put him into a system and my people are keeping an eye out for him everywhere. Cause I'm scared. I'm scared about him. He's gonna get his [__] head blown off if he gets anywhere like 50 feet of me.

• 1:32:58Caleb Hammer?

  But I am concerned about after this.

• 1:32:59Speaker 03

  Now, that's important because I was stupid enough to continue to believe his lies.

• 1:33:05Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, he's ex-military. Geez, yeah, I'm even more scared. Luckily my security, the ones that we keep around my house are also ex-military and they'll blast him. I bet they're a better shoot. Shot. Um, uh, man, um, so like, what is he doing right now? You've been around him. What is he feeling?

• 1:33:25Speaker 03

  He's probably upset that he got caught.

• 1:33:27Caleb Hammer?

  He didn't think you'd get caught on here?

• 1:33:29Speaker 03

  I don't think he thought it would all come out.

• 1:33:31Caleb Hammer?

  What the [__]? Is he [__]? Okay.

• 1:33:33Speaker 03

  So he had only seen the little bitty TikTok clips of your show. He's never actually watched a whole show to really know.

• 1:33:37Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, but he saw the onboarding videos.

• 1:33:39Speaker 03

  I don't think he ever paid attention until the one today. I don't think, I don't know if he actually watched the other ones. Yeah.

• 1:33:44Caleb Hammer?

  Why? You didn't watch it with you?

• 1:33:45Speaker 03

  Mm-mm.

• 1:33:47Caleb Hammer?

  What the [__]? Well, I guess that's on my fault.

• 1:33:48Speaker 03

  Take care of it.

• 1:33:49Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, great. Well, okay, that's on him. I don't give a shit then. He can go [__] himself. Um,

• 1:33:59Caleb Hammer?

  I'm, uh, concerned for you after this. I am. Are, are you afraid of what would happen after this, after you leave today?

• 1:34:07Speaker 03

  Oh, well. Cause I don't know.

• 1:34:09Caleb Hammer?

  What can we do then? He's hit you before and knocked you out.

• 1:34:15Speaker 03

  I was stupid enough to listen to everybody to just keep going that he didn't mean it. It was just a mistake. That's like what everybody's drilled into my head.

• 1:34:25Speaker 03

  And it's hard when everybody, including your own personal attorney that's supposed to be there to protect you convinces you to stay.

• 1:34:33Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, I think we're gonna have my security help deal with that then. Cause I don't know what the [__] he's gonna do. Listen, the reality is, this conversation took a turn that I don't think any of us were expecting and that I wasn't expecting. And there's a lot here. Right?

• 1:34:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:34:51Caleb Hammer?

  I'm just, I'm gonna pay for my financial advisor to sit through with you and go through all this in detail, okay? And make a budget with you and give you a lot more in-depth shit than, you know, we would even do on the show. So that's gonna be more beneficial to you, okay?

• 1:35:03Speaker 03

  I appreciate it.

• 1:35:04Caleb Hammer?

  So that's what's gonna happen. The therapy and everything, course careers and chime, all the good stuff. It will get you all of it. Okay?

• 1:35:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:35:11Caleb Hammer?

  Okay. I, whatever the [__], if that wasn't crazy enough, I guess she has something else for the post show. If you want more insanity, subscribe to Hammer Elite, three premium shows every single day, six days a week. Click that join button to join or go download the Hammer Elite app. Go to hammerelite.com. Same on both platforms. Just wanted to give you more options. Three shows a day, every single day, six days a week. Oh, it's this. It's the Attorney General.

• 1:35:37Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:35:42Caleb Hammer?

  You have another child you're not telling me about?

• 1:35:46Caleb Hammer?

  All right, we'll get into that in the post show. [__] me. I can't even imagine what's possibly coming on this post show if that wasn't [__] crazy enough that she wasn't willing to talk about whatever this is.

• 1:35:56Speaker 01

  I also think that he was trying to kill the kid that stopped breathing in his lap.

• 1:35:59Caleb Hammer?

  What is hap- why, why is life like this to you?

• 1:36:03Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 1:36:03Caleb Hammer?

  Why is life like this? Well, I would say that's the reason for cutting them off, isn't it?

• 1:36:07Speaker 03

  He was supposed to get four years in military prison. He only served two. They gave him good behavior.

• 1:36:11Speaker 01

  I think he might be the most evil husband we've had on this show, which is saying a lot.

• 1:36:16Caleb Hammer?

  He tells people that he had [__] with his daughter? Even then if that was consensual, why the [__] is he telling people? I just launched the brand new Hammer Elite app available on every major platform. So you can watch every show anywhere you want. You'll get three exclusive dedicated shows every single day, Monday through Saturday. Refer a friend after you sign up and you get an additional 30 days of Hammer Elite access for free. Download the Hammer Elite app by using the link in the description or pin comment down below. This is the best membership you'll ever join and that's a promise. I want you to be on the next episode of Financial Audit right here in Austin, Texas. If you think you have interesting finances with an interesting personality or a story or a life or relationship, I will personally pay you to take time off of work, fly you down to Austin, get you personal transportation, a hotel,

• 1:37:01Caleb Hammer?

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