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Call it AI, call it Super Intelligence, only 2% of consumers are buying it

Equity Podcast

Hosted by Kirsten Korosec and Rebecca Bellan

38m
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In this episode of Equity, the hosts examine the recent White House meeting where President Trump signed an executive order shifting official terminology from artificial intelligence to superintelligence. They discuss the theatrical nature of the agreement, its voluntary and non-binding status, and how companies like Anthropic navigate complex relationships with the administration. The conversation also explores the stark contrast between high-level policy theater and slowing consumer adoption, highlighted by recent data showing only two percent of consumers currently pay for AI products. Finally, the team breaks down notable startup deals, including maritime intelligence startup Quartermaster raising a hundred forty million dollars, supply chain firm Atomic securing major logistics clients, and space insurance platform Charter scaling up after competing at Disrupt.

  • Only about two percent of consumers are currently paying for AI products, creating a major gap between hype and reality. 16:33
  • The White House signed an executive order requiring officials to use the term superintelligence instead of artificial intelligence. 3:17
  • Maritime intelligence startup Quartermaster successfully raised a one hundred forty million dollar Series B round.
  • Anthropic's leaked S1 filing revealed a loss of forty-two billion dollars last year alongside massive compute spending. 24:35

Chapters

  1. 0:00
    Episode Introduction and Sponsor Message

    Hosts open the show, introduce the sponsor and set the episode’s context.

  2. 0:36
    Disrupt 2026 Preview and Promo Code

    Hosts discuss the upcoming Disrupt event, promo code, and live recording plans.

  3. 4:24
    White House Luncheon and AI CEOs Meeting

    Anthropic, OpenAI, Meta, and other tech leaders meet with Trump, highlighting political dynamics.

  4. 12:00
    IPO Landscape: Anthropic, Aura, and SpaceX

    Mixed IPO outcomes are discussed, with focus on Anthropic’s potential debut and Aura’s pullback.

  5. 13:41
    Rebranding AI to Superintelligence and Public Perception

    The shift from AI to SI is dissected, noting its marketing intent and public skepticism.

  6. 17:52
    Consumer AI Adoption and Market Reality

    Only 2% of consumers pay for AI, challenging hype and affecting IPO strategies.

  7. 23:00
    Quartermaster Maritime Intelligence Deal

    A $140 M Series B for a maritime AI startup that equips ships with smart masts is highlighted.

  8. 27:00
    Atomic Supply‑Chain AI Startup Overview

    Atomic’s AI‑driven inventory platform, backed by ex‑Tesla talent, gains traction with DoorDash.

  9. 31:00
    Charter Space Insurance Pitch

    Charter Space raises $5 M to create a marketplace for insuring satellites and space assets.

  10. 36:55
    Episode Wrap‑Up and Closing Remarks

    Hosts conclude the episode, remind listeners of upcoming content, and sign off.

Highlights

  • 3:17

    Renaming AI to Superintelligenceinsight

    The hosts discuss the executive order signed by President Trump mandating the use of the term superintelligence instead of artificial intelligence in official contexts.

  • 5:59

    A Morally Binding Agreementinsight

    A speaker points out that the voluntary AI pact signed at the White House was described by the President as morally binding and even featured a misspelling of the United States.

  • 16:33

    Two Percent Consumer Adoptiondata

    Citing an Andreessen Horowitz presentation, the hosts highlight data showing that only two percent of people in the United States currently pay for any sort of AI product.

  • 19:55

    OpenAI Delays IPO for Safetydebate

    The hosts discuss reports that Sam Altman is holding off on an IPO until the technology is deemed safe, while also noting concerns over public market financial evaluations.

  • 24:32

    Anthropic S1 Financial Detailsdata

    Leaked details from Anthropic's S1 filing reveal forty-two billion dollars in losses last year, over seven billion spent on compute, and an eighty-page risk factor section.

  • 34:43

    Charter Secures Space Insurancestory

    Former TechCrunch Disrupt finalist Charter raised five million dollars to build a centralized insurance marketplace for space objects and satellites.

Quotes

  • “2% of people are currently paying for AI, some sort of AI product.”
    Unnamed speaker · 16:36
  • “AI is going to kill us, it's scary, it is going to take jobs, but superintelligence is not.”
    Kirsten Korosec · 8:36
  • “What does it really mean to have a data center in your backyard? Why does it have to be negotiated in secret?”
    Unnamed speaker · 9:53
  • “The risk factor sections are 80 pages, which is, even I don't think I've ever seen one that long before.”
    Unnamed speaker · 25:06
  • Schneider Electric 0:00–0:05

About this episode

This week, the White House got nearly every major tech CEO in one room — Zuckerberg, Bezos, Musk, and Anthropic’s Dario Amodei among them — to sign an AI safety pledge that President Donald Trump called “morally binding.” Trump also signed an executive order officially rebranding AI as “super intelligence,” and meanwhile, Meta and OpenAI are putting friendlier faces on their AI products, even as the biggest money in AI still appears to be coming from the enterprise. On this episode of TechCrunch's Equity podcast, Kirsten Korosec, Anthony Ha, and Sean O’Kane dig into this week’s AI moves, the ugly economics of consumer AI, plus the shifting IPO market and a handful of startup deals. Listen to the full episode to hear more about: What Oura pulling its IPO, plus Anthropic’s leaked S-1 and OpenAI going back to private funding, says about how picky public markets have gotten Quartermaster’s $140M raise to bring real-time sensors to an industry that AI basically hasn’t touched yet: maritime shipping Why Atomic, a supply-chain startup from ex-Tesla vets, is already running 90% of DoorDash’s purchasing How Startup Battlefield finalist Charter Space raised $5M to bring insurance to satellites Speaking of Startup Battlefield, join us at TechCrunch Disrupt 2026, where Equity will kick things off with a live show on the Builders Stage at 9 a.m. Get 25% off your tickets with code Equity25. Subscribe to Equity on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Overcast, Spotify and all the casts. You can also follow Equity on X and Threads, at @EquityPod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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6,864 words · 4 speakers

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Topics

  • AI
  • Anthropic
  • OpenAI
  • superintelligence
  • Disrupt
  • Meta
  • SpaceX
  • Aura
  • DoorDash
  • Amazon

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