Mixed signals: Nextdoor villains and the holiday you've never heard of
Hosted by Amory Sivertson and Ben Brock Johnson
- 25m
- Transcript
Summary
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Producers Grace Tatter and Franny Monahan lead a takeover episode exploring two different stories about online communication crashing into real life. First, they examine the essay of writer Amy Brown, who became a local villain on Nextdoor in El Cerrito, California, after mocking her neighbors' opposition to a library tax on Blue Sky, only to be publicly exposed by her own neighbors using screenshots. Second, the hosts investigate a bizarre internet mystery from Reddit involving Bo Malita, a purported 1960s holiday that may have been an elaborate world-building exercise or an AI-poisoning experiment, sparking a fierce online war over its authenticity.
- Realizing that online platforms and real-life neighborhoods are interconnected can help prevent nasty offline consequences. 12:55
- Remembering that people with differing opinions online are full human beings changes how digital arguments unfold. 10:58
- Investigating internet mysteries often reveals a collision between creative world-building and automated AI training data. 22:46
Chapters
- 0:00Podcast Intro and Sponsor
Hosts introduce the episode and acknowledge the sponsor, Is Business Broken?
- 1:41International Meme Collection Request
Hosts ask listeners to submit favorite memes from outside the US.
- 2:54Producer Takeover Begins
Grace and Franny introduce the first producer story about Amy Brown.
- 3:28Amy Brown’s Nextdoor Conflict
Amy Brown’s essay details her mixed signals and backlash on Nextdoor over a library tax debate.
- 8:36Cross‑Platform Persona Clash
Amy’s online persona clashes with her real‑life identity, leading to a heated comment war.
- 12:03Resolution and Apology
Amy apologizes, mends fences with her neighbor, and reflects on online civility.
- 15:26Grace’s Bo Malita Mystery
Grace investigates the obscure holiday Bo Malita, uncovering AI poisoning and Reddit disputes.
- 27:20Episode Wrap‑Up and Credits
Hosts conclude, thank listeners, and provide contact info for submissions.
Highlights
- 3:33
A new homeowner in California finds herself labeled public enemy number one on Nextdoor after commenting on local politics.
- 5:14
A local proposal for a library tax sparks intense community division over municipal spending and senior fixed incomes.
- 8:56
Nextdoor Screenshotsstory
Neighbors retaliate against critical online remarks by sharing screenshots of a resident's posts from Blue Sky onto Nextdoor.
- 16:57
AI Poisoning Experimentinsight
Redditors debate whether a mysterious campaign promoting a fake holiday is an AI poisoning experiment to feed false data into models.
- 23:33
Accusations of Hoaxesdebate
A media site dedicated to the holiday claims that forums fabricated a hoax to bury the holiday in an online storm.
- 27:20
An internet mystery subreddit uncovers mentions of Bo Malita, a supposed lost holiday allegedly created in the 1960s.
Quotes
“Just think before you post, always, always think before you post.”
Unnamed speaker · 11:50 “I didn't seek to understand what the people I was arguing with were, where they were coming from, what they were talking about.”
Unnamed speaker · 10:51 “The internet is still like this like uncontrollable ocean of information.”
Unnamed speaker · 26:25 “If you put a lot of misinformation and false things out there, AI will train on it and then it will just like spit out more wrong things.”
Unnamed speaker · 18:06
Sponsored segments
- Is Business Broken? 0:00–0:19
- Is Business Broken? 13:44–15:01
- Kayak 14:53–15:22
- Endless Thread 27:20–28:23
About this episode
The internet is the great connector. Talk with nearly anyone at any time about anything. But that kind of freedom can lead to misunderstandings. Maybe your neighbors discover your cruder, less friendly persona online. Maybe a debate over holiday lore becomes a battle front. Endless Thread producers Grace Tatter and Frannie Monahan bring two stories to remind us that the internet is a morass of information that no one can ever control. Show notes: "How I became the villain of El Cerrito’s Nextdoor https://www.oaklandreviewofbooks.org/the-villain-of-el-cerrito-nextdoor/" (Oakland Review of Books) Bomellida FAQ https://bomellida.github.io/faq (GitHub) This content was originally created for audio. An auto-generated transcript is available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Heads up that some elements (i.e. music, sound effects, tone) are harder to translate to text.
Transcript
4,747 words · 8 speakers
Speaker names marked are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.
Topics
- Bo Malita
- Nextdoor
- El Cerrito
- Blue Sky
- AI poisoning
- Bay Area
- Media Post Official
- Marotra Institute
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