Why Being an Entrepreneur Is So LONELY! 4 Surprising Reasons + How to Fix It

Have you ever looked around at the business you've worked SO hard to build and thought, "Why do I feel so lonely?" Today, Chris and I are breaking down 4 surprising reasons entrepreneurship can feel incredibly isolating, even when you're surrounded by people all day, and why that loneliness could actually be holding back your business growth. We're sharing some eye-opening facts about how rare it is to be a full-time entrepreneur, why the freedom you started your business for can end up leaving you with LESS time for friendships, and how viewing other entrepreneurs as competition is costing you some of your biggest opportunities. If you've been feeling misunderstood, disconnected, or like you're building your dream business all alone, this episode will remind you that you don't have to do it that way! Check out our Sponsors: Shopify - Ready to launch your business before Black Friday? Go to http://SHOPIFY. COM/happy to start your free trial. Monarch - Monarch breaks the debt cycle, turn endless gloom into a plan with an end date. Use code EYH at http://monarch.com to get your first year of Monarch Core half off at just $50. Northwest - Gain access to thousands of free guides, tools, and attorney-drafted documents to help you run your business with confidence at http://northwestregisteredagent.com/EarnFree Indeed - Spend less time searching, and more time actually interviewing candidates who check all your boxes. Get a $75 Sponsored Job credit at http://indeed.com/podcast right now and let them know you heard about Indeed on this podcast. Life At The Speed Of Play - Mark is offering our listeners TWO books for the price of one! Go tohttp://getmarksbook.com/earn Sequencing - http://Sequencing.com is offering our listeners up to 10% off your full Genome test, plus free shipping. Go to Sequencing Dot com, and use promo code EARN for 10% off. Faire - Sign up today and get 50% off your first wholesale order, up to $100 at http://faire.com/happy50. HIGHLIGHTS Why entrepreneurs can feel lonely even when they're surrounded by people. The surprising statistic behind why few people are full-time entrepreneurs. Why being an outlier can make it difficult to feel understood by friends and family. Why being the social entertainer or people pleaser can make building friendships even harder. How leadership responsibilities and professional boundaries can contribute to loneliness. Why traditional networking events don't always create meaningful relationships. How shared experiences and smaller groups can help you build deeper connections with other entrepreneurs. RESOURCES Learn how to turn podcast guesting into massive sales, ⁠⁠save your spot for the free live training HERE⁠⁠! Make your own ⁠Million Dollar Media Kit HERE! Try glōci for 40% off your first order with code HAPPY at checkout - head to getgloci.com FOLLOW Follow me: @loriharder Follow Chris: @chriswharder Follow glōci: @getgloci

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  counting yourself out of. So like, oh gosh, those people are doing so much better than me, or that's a certain type of person in there. I don't know if I like that. The more that we create an idea or a judgment or a fear around a certain type of something that feels like a competitor, or it feels like you're not good enough for, or you don't like how something works, you are blocking out a big portion of your answers, I promise you, because you probably need to go explore, why do they think different? What are they doing that's working? These are all the things that feel very counterintuitive that I feel like the secrets are hiding in plain sight. They're actually in the places that feel like you have the most resistance around.

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  And we're back.

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  With another episode of He Said, She Said.

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  You can go to milliondollarguest.com/training and you have a few opportunities there to come on live.

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  I just want to share something. So our friend Chandler Bolt, you know, he runs a big book publishing company and it's an eight-figure company. He is spending over $200,000 this year getting on podcasts. Now, you got to ask yourself, why would somebody spend over $200,000 getting on podcasts who already runs an eight-figure business? That's how he has an eight-figure annual business. He recognized a long time ago that on the other end of every single one of those shows is an audience that has a know, like and trust factor with that host. So it's the shortcut to what you call the trust transfer. And I'm telling you, I'm putting myself on a podcast tour this year. If you guys aren't making this your number one lead gen channel and your number one sales channel, then you're

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  literally just wasting your time and you're taking the hard route when there's people with all of these big audiences just foaming at the mouth that already have the know, like and trust factor built up. Like, think about it. Where are you most likely to buy? Somebody who comes on one of our shows that we spend an hour talking about and edifying and endorsing, or somebody whose ad you see for the first time ever. Obviously, somebody who would come on our show. So the same thing goes for you. That's why it's nonsense if you're not on the other end, but also just being on the other end of the show is not good enough. You have to know how to tell the right stories in the right way that lead people to go from an audience you're renting to an audience that you own. So you can actually sell them. There's an art to it and that's what Lori teaches for totally free. And as our friend

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  Absolutely.

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  All right. So why is entrepreneurship so freaking lonely? You know, you and I were talking about this on our way back from church. We had brunch and we're like, God, it can be really lonely. Like, I don't get it. I talk to a lot of people every day, but it can actually be really lonely. And then we just started dissecting why it can be so lonely. You're like, oh my God, everyone, our masterminds, you know, this one thing that we hear is, it's really lonely. And the people that come on Found Trips are like, well, I came because it's really lonely. We're like, why is it so lonely? So we, I kind of started dissecting it and we came up with a really like strong reasons why and how to overcome them. If you've ever felt like, God, this sucks. I thought I was building my dream and I just kind of built myself a prison.

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  So I want to add why I feel this is such an interesting topic as well, is because as an entrepreneur, you, obviously Chris is going to dive deep into why it's so lonely, but as an entrepreneur, it's actually counterintuitive to be lonely. It's not a good thing for you to build in a silo. And so I feel like this is such an important episode for you to listen to and you're going to get some of the biggest takeaways from this around why you need to actually fight against being lonely, because you need people, not only in your corner, but you need ideas. And ideas do not come through loneliness. They actually come through

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  finding ways to not be lonely. So even if it's not with other people, it's finding ways to feel fulfilled and do things that make you excited and happy and feel like you're generating ideas and connecting to other people, finding things that light you up. So that's why this episode, we really wanted to dive deep is because being lonely as an entrepreneur is how you actually cut off all ideas from your business.

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  Well, and I think some of these reasons are going to shock you. So this first one, like this, I think this standalone is going to shock you. Ready for this? You're lonely because as an entrepreneur, if you're a full-time entrepreneur, you are a really, really small percentage of human beings. This one shocked me. How much, what percentage, Lori, do you think of people are entrepreneurs?

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  Uh, twenty-five percent.

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  Okay, right, like one out of four, right? And it seems that way because you're around entrepreneurs. You talk to entrepreneurs. So in our world, you would think, ah, it seems like twenty-five percent of people are entrepreneurs. Nope. Four to eight percent of all humans

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  You really are not like a

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  Full-time entrepreneur. And that four to eight actually has levels. Four percent of humans are a full-time entrepreneur that has an actual registered business.

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  Whoa.

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  The other four percent in the four to eight percent are people that call themselves a full-time entrepreneur, but don't even have a registered business. So they might be like coaching, making money, but they don't have a true LLC or corporation.

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  Interesting.

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  They're just filing as a sole proprietor. So my God, only four to eight percent of all humans are entrepreneurs. So you're an outlier. And anytime someone's an outlier, you automatically feel lonely.

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  Feel different, you feel lonely.

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  I want to really drive this home. So if you had a auditorium or like an event and there were a hundred random people at this event. And I said, hey, everybody out of this random crew, everyone who is a full-time entrepreneur, would you please come down here in front? That means out of a hundred people sitting there, only four, five, six, as many as eight, the max of eight people would come down in front of this group of a hundred and say, I'm a full-time entrepreneur.

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  Okay, so I want you to think about that because let's say you're sitting somewhere and you go to a community event to try to connect with people. Maybe you're in church like we were today and you start a conversation with the people next to you. And right away, you maybe feel like you don't have as much in common. And maybe the conversation feels a little bit harder for you. And maybe you feel like, oh my gosh, you know, I even tried connecting with people and people just don't get me. So it continues to like keep feeding the story of, God, I feel lonely even when I'm around people.

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  Yep. And when you feel like an outlier, even when you're around people, what do you do? You kind of withdraw, you kind of retreat, you feel, you don't feel seen or understood. I mean, think about it this way. I remember when my parents didn't understand why we were leaving corporate America and starting to build businesses at first, right? And it was like kind of a weird issue at first, you know, they were quote unquote worried about us.

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  Yep.

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  Why would I leave this really good job, et cetera? And what people don't understand is what it's like to have to be a full-time entrepreneur, to be unemployable as a personality.

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  Yep.

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  Like no matter how bad the shit hits the fan, I couldn't work for somebody else. I would just keep trying some other kind of self hustle to make ends meet. It's a personality type, but it's a rare personality type. Most people can't understand your risk tolerance. Most people can't understand why you'd trade forty hours for sixty or eighty hours, but to do it on your own time. Most people can't understand why you'd be okay with the uncertainty of having a, a ten thousand dollar month and then a zero dollar month and then a fifteen thousand dollar month and then a two thousand dollar month. Most people actually can't even understand how you would budget and pay for your family with that type of roller coaster. So that first one is you're a literal outlier.

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  Yep.

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  Four to eight out of every hundred people are an entrepreneur. So you automatically think differently than everybody else.

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  Not to mention going to family holidays.

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  Yeah, exactly. The second reason is because as an entrepreneur, especially when you're starting out, even when you have a small team, you have to wear so many hats that you end up having less time to be as social as you want. And this is the irony of it all. People say, oh, I'm going to start a business so that I can have my own schedule. I'm going to start a business so that I can have time freedom. Let me tell you what you don't get paid in until you sell your business or really have built a team. Motherfreaking time freedom. You just don't.

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  Me kissing time.

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  You're kissing time goodbye. Yeah. I'm telling you, so you wear so many hats that you end up trading the time that you would be social for building your business.

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  Okay. And then I was just thinking about the fact that you have this, like even when you, you want to start getting social, right? You're like, okay, okay, I'm finally going to do it. I'm going to put together this dinner. I'm going to put together this networking thing. You're so tired that you're just like, no, maybe I, I just feel like I need time alone. Like I just feel like I need this time to myself to deflate. Especially if you're an entrepreneur, you're probably really capable of being the dancing monkey.

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  Yep.

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  You're probably the person who knows how to turn on the charm and charisma. So let me guess, you're probably also a classic people pleaser, who when you are around people, you're the entertainer. You're probably the person who knows how to make people feel good because you are an entrepreneur. You're a person who can carry the conversation. You're the person who's a leader. And so what happens socially sometimes is in that time where you think you should be actually making some friends or connecting, you're like, I can't do it. It's too exhausting because I'm the person who carries the conversation. I'm the one who is like, okay, this person doesn't know how to talk to me. So I'm going to talk to this person and carry on being the entertainment throughout this entire evening.

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  While that's not necessarily healthy and that's not how it has to be, that's kind of our default. So you've now related probably going out and making friends and going and, you know, trying to go to these networking things with being exhausted till you isolate yourself even further.

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  And then add number one to, to number two. So if number two is you're too tired because you wear so many hats to go out and be social. No, add that to number one, we're like, okay, fine, I'm finally going to go out and be social. You're still an outlier. You're still four out of a hundred people.

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  You are.

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  It's crazy. So the third reason that entrepreneurship feels so lonely, and this one's like sad and we got to get over this one, is that there's a weird sense of competition among your peers. There's a weird sense of competition for a lot of people among other entrepreneurs that if they would only understand, these are your like-minded peers. There shouldn't be competition. There should be collaboration because collaboration is the shortcut to two things. Collaboration is the shortcut to better ideas. And collaboration in this case is the shortcut to better friends. Think about it. You told me a story that I forget the gentleman's name, the author, about the two flowers. Yeah, tell, tell that story.

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  So Ryan Levesque was talking about, I believe it's in his book. I haven't gotten this far yet, but I just did a podcast with him. And he was talking about how there are essentially these two wildflowers that should essentially be

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  Our genies.

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  Sort of like enemies, like the way that they grow, they compete for getting pollinated from bees and they compete also, I believe with like soil, root system, whatever.

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  They got the nutrients in the soil.

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  And so when they essentially out in the wild, they grow together. So he was on his farm and he was walking around and he's like, this is so strange. Like these flowers keep growing side by side. But when he looked it up, they do compete. They are competing for resources. And what they ended up, how these flowers continue to grow together in the wild, I have no clue. But they continue to learn how to grow together in the wild and find each other. Because in a bee's eyes, what happens is the colors specifically yellow and purple together.

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  And by the way, one of these is yellow and one of these is purple.

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  Yes, that's a huge detail that

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  Huge detail you left out there.

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  Forgot to leave out. I've only told this story to you once, okay? I'll get better at this story. I'll get better at the story. So these two colors together are the exact colors that actually attract bees more than any other colors. So when they are out flying around, looking for what they should go and pollinate, these two colors together attract them and they go back and forth. So even though they're competing for resources, knowing that they can grow side by side is actually the key for them attracting the bees to pollinate.

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  You know who else does this? Car dealers. You and I were driving home from being up north in California yesterday. We drove through Calabasas and there's a stretch of car dealerships along the highway there. And it goes Mercedes, BMW, Porsche, Rolls Royce. And these are all separate dealerships and separate companies. And there's like seven or eight of them in a row. And there's just a great big sign that says Calabasas Auto Mall, right? And the dealerships have always done this, if you've ever noticed, when you're out driving down a freeway, they've always clustered together because they learned early on that when people go shopping for cars, this is definitely pre-internet, they go and they drive through each lot where the lots are clustered

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  instead of driving to this corner of town for one and that corner of town for one and that corner of town for one. They want to drive through them all and they figured out that, well, even though my competitor is next to me, I still have way more foot traffic, or in this case tire traffic, than if I isolate myself out here. And a rising tide lifts all ships. The dealerships learned early on, and I come from dealerships, right? That was my first job, but when I got kicked out of college, they learned early on that everybody sold more cars when you cluster them together.

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  Remember when you think of this, this is the concept of a mall. This is the concept of two exact similar clothing stores being next to each other. If I'm out walking with my girlfriends and getting coffee, I'm way more likely to go, you know what, let's go over to this area because it has all of our favorite things. And we just go side by side. And by the way, we're probably going to spend in both stores. Rather than let's go to the shop far away that's not by anything else, trying to be isolated and independent. It's going to be a lot different than going where all of your favorite things are, even though back to back they're competitors.

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  Yeah. And not only is a mall like the perfect embodiment of this, but the way they arrange them all. Have you ever noticed? So typically kitchen stores are in the same area on the same level.

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  Yeah.

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  Typically women's clothing stores are in the same area on the same level.

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  Yep.

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  So they even cluster them together in that way because foot traffic raises everybody's sales. And so back to point number three, this weird sense of competition among the very people that would understand you, be your friends, it's got to go. You've got to understand that sharing audiences means they buy Lori's program and Natalie's program, not one or the other.

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  you are benching yourself from, that you are already counting yourself out of. So like, oh gosh, those people are doing so much better than me. Or that's a certain type of person in there. I don't know if I like that. The more that we create an idea or a judgment or a fear around a certain type of something that feels like a competitor, or it feels like you're not good enough for, or you don't like how something works, you are blocking out a big portion of your answers, I promise you, because you probably need to go explore, why do they think different? What are they doing that's working? These are all the things that feel very counterintuitive, that I feel like the secrets are hiding in plain sight.

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  Like they're, they're actually in the places that feel like you have the most resistance around.

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  Yeah, I totally, so the last reason why entrepreneurship feels so lonely is the people that you spend the most time around are typically people who are off limits from developing a deep relationship with. Think about it. You spend most of your time as an entrepreneur around your team members, your employees, et cetera. And it's a best practice. Well, there's exceptions to the rule, like you and Kaylee. It's a best practice to keep kind of a wall of professionalism up between you and your team, you and your employees, et cetera. You just don't want to get too close, you know, because unfortunately you outgrow team members or they outgrow you, et cetera. And you have to be careful with those boundaries there, not to mention things that could get you sued as well, you know? You have to be a leader and you also have to put on this front of certainty and confidence

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  in front of your team, even when you're freaking out inside. And when you put on a false front, for a good reason, you're still putting on a false front, which means you're not really connecting deeply. So you feel misunderstood or not seen. And then the way people work these days, most team members are scattered all over the country. Everyone works remote.

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  Yep.

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  So that's the fourth reason is literally your team is why you feel so lonely. So these four reasons are a huge part of why we shut down our mastermind system in the way that it was and said, we're going to start taking people on more highly experiential, more intimate trips. Because we found that people were still feeling lonely, sitting in a room of 40, or sitting in a room of 60, or sitting in a room of 100. They were leaving with some new information, yay. They met one or two people, yay. But they were still feeling lonely and they weren't connecting. We'd send out surveys and year after year, they were not connecting the way that we wanted them to connect. So we did an experiment. We said, what if we just did a 10 person trip? And it was highly experiential and we bonded them in the ways that we're used to in a

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  mastermind, but in this small, highly experiential way that they do on The Bachelor. I call it The Bachelor Effect. If you've ever watched The Bachelor, there's a reason why they, you know, all live in a mansion and they take helicopters everywhere and fancy cars and beautiful outfits and all that stuff, because it accelerates the bond when you're having incredible life experiences together. That's how they fall in love so quickly. And we're like, why don't we just apply that to curing this loneliness epidemic for entrepreneurs? And the literal mission statement is you come on one of these trips and you find not only the bigger version of yourself, but you come back with better stories to tell, better ideas worth pursuing, and a better, more intimate circle of people that truly know you to support you. And that's why these have become so popular.

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  So there's two ways that you can go on a found trip. A la carte, there's four trips this year. You can go to chrisharder.me/found and you can book a call with me or one of our team members to ask questions about it or fill out an app to see if you're a good vet. So that's chrisharder.me/m-e/found. Go check it out. And then I also have a very high level, very, well, it's a secret until I talked about it right now, because it's already half full, high level intimate mastermind of just 10 people that are locking arms and committing to travel together once per quarter in 2027 and spending four days together each time, doing the most incredible life experiences,

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  having the most unprecedented founder access, like mind blowing founder access in a small, intimate group of 10. But more importantly, committing to being ride or dies that year. And I don't believe you can be a ride or die as effectively on Zoom calls as you can in person. So this is not for everyone. Most people are like, oh, I want to be with my kids, oh, I want to be with my spouse. This is for the people like, oh no, this is what I need. I need to be in person to forge that kind of relationship four times this year, once per quarter. And it's a whole different level of, of relationship when you do it that way. And when I say this is a real high level group, listen, everybody's welcome on an a la carte found trip, no matter where your business is at. But this is a group that I built for me. I wanted to travel with my peers and have that level of relationship.

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  So you must have either a multi seven figure business to apply. That means annual earnings, not cumulative. So you must have a multi seven figure business to reach out. Or if you don't, you must have a verifiable eight figure net worth. Or you must have sold a company. And we can verify that you sold the company and you've got that level of experience. So either you've got a multi seven figure business, or you have an eight figure net worth, or you have sold a company. You need one of those criteria to be considered for this really high level lock arms platinum elite found mastermind that we're putting together. So if you guys want to do that and travel with us once a quarter, that one, there's

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  no fancy website for, that one, there's no application for, just slide into my DMs and be like, hey, Chris, heard about your platinum elite mastermind through found? I want to hear about that one. I want to travel together once a quarter. I want real relationships this year. So with that being said, guys, entrepreneurship doesn't have to be lonely. The cards are literally stacked against you for the reasons we gave. It's not your fault that it is. It's only your fault if you don't do something about it. So go check out the trips, chrisharder.me/found. Otherwise, keep tuning in and go out there and cultivate your own entrepreneur friendships.

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  All right, we'll see you next week.

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