Dog The Bounty Hunter: Life After Beth

Throwback Thursday (Originally aired: 12/14/25) Bunnie Xo sits down with Dog the Bounty Hunter and his wife, Francie Chapman, for a raw and powerful conversation about faith, loss, redemption, and life in the public eye. Dog opens up about his complicated childhood, revealing that the man he believed to be his biological father was not—and sharing how an abusive upbringing and time running with the Devil’s Disciples ultimately led him to find purpose as a bounty hunter and man of faith. Francie speaks candidly about the devastating loss of her grandson and the pain of grieving under intense media scrutiny. Together, they reflect on the shared grief that brought them together, the backlash surrounding Dog’s remarriage after Beth’s passing, and the challenges of rebuilding a life after profound loss. Dog also opens up about Beth’s final days, her warnings, and the weight of carrying on without her, while sharing stories about his children, including his son Gary’s career in law enforcement and the family’s ongoing struggles with fame. The conversation touches on their future plans—writing bail in Georgia, filming their work, and doing prison interventions—all driven by a mission to help others and save souls. Equal parts emotional and uplifting, this episode is a testament to resilience, faith, and finding purpose through pain—wrapped up with heartfelt reflections, laughter, and a reminder that family and belief can carry you through even the darkest chapters. Dog the Bounty Hunter: Website https://dogthebountyhunter.com/ Watch Full Episodes & More: YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@Dumbblondepod

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• 0:11Bunnie XO?

  Is this thing on? Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Don Blonde. Today I have a complete icon sitting in front of me, somebody who I grew up watching, who just makes my Y2K heart beat. Dog the Bounty Hunter is here along with his wife Francie Chapman. Thank you guys so much for being here.

• 0:32Speaker 01

  Thank you for having us.

• 0:33Bunnie XO?

  I'm so excited. So just to elaborate on what you were just talking about, you were adopted.

• 0:40Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 0:40Bunnie XO?

  And your dad-

• 0:44Speaker 02

  My birth mom, who she told me-

• 0:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 0:47Speaker 02

  Was my, my birth father was.

• 0:51Speaker 02

  I found out from ancestry was, is not my birth father.

• 0:55Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 0:55Speaker 02

  And it was somebody completely different. I found out because a guy that was on there messaged me and said, I think I'm your brother. And so we are siblings. And so who I thought my birth father was, is not. It's someone completely different. Luckily, I didn't meet my birth dad. That would have been really awkward, but so we're meeting tonight for the first time-

• 1:20Bunnie XO?

  Are you-

• 1:21Speaker 02

  In Nashville. So I'm excited.

• 1:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:23Speaker 02

  We've been talking on the phone. He's such a great guy.

• 1:26Bunnie XO?

  Aww.

• 1:27Speaker 02

  And so he lives in Indiana and they're coming to town. And so we're going to have dinner with them tonight.

• 1:33Bunnie XO?

  That is phenomenal. How does, how does that make you feel?

• 1:37Speaker 01

  Well, she, you know, she just lost her grandson. And she has another son, so she has no, you know, I have, how many kids?

• 1:45Bunnie XO?

  Thirteen.

• 1:47Speaker 01

  Twenty-

• 1:47Bunnie XO?

  From what I researched.

• 1:48Speaker 02

  Thirteen.

• 1:49Speaker 01

  Twenty-seven or 28 now.

• 1:51Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:52Speaker 01

  Grandkids or great grandkids.

• 1:54Bunnie XO?

  Wow, that's a legacy.

• 1:56Speaker 01

  Yes, amen, hallelujah.

• 1:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:59Speaker 01

  And yeah, she-

• 2:02Speaker 01

  Uh, you know, sad because grandson passed.

• 2:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:06Speaker 01

  And this helps her a little bit, you know, especially right now through the holidays and all that. My son Greg's wife, this would have been the year that we, we share, boy, I call him Anthony, with Greg and he'd stay with us in Georgia and then go back, you know, because this is the longest break they get in school.

• 2:27Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 2:28Speaker 01

  So it's rough on Francie right now. So any positive thing that we can do or, you know, gets her going and, you know,

• 2:36Bunnie XO?

  They're so sweet. I love you.

• 2:38Speaker 01

  You know, the Bible says, as you know, that death is the last enemy that shall be whipped. And we all have to face it and we all have to go through, you know, we've lost a lot of people in our family. I lost my firstborn daughter in a car wreck in Alaska.

• 2:54Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 2:55Speaker 01

  And of course Beth, my mom, my dad, my grandpa, all my great grannies, you know, I just.

• 3:00Bunnie XO?

  That's what I've noticed just by researching you is like for every high that you have had in your life, there is always a low that kind of like, I don't want to say overshadows it, but kind of like shadows all the brightness in your life.

• 3:12Speaker 01

  Well, that, there was one reason, okay? And we'll tell you how we met. Excuse me, but I never would have married a rancher, you know, straight out of Hollywood.

• 3:24Speaker 02

  You weren't in my little black book either.

• 3:27Speaker 01

  Whatever.

• 3:28Bunnie XO?

  You know what? Me and my husband are not each other's types either. And we've been together a decade. So, yeah, it happens that way.

• 3:34Speaker 02

  It does.

• 3:35Speaker 01

  It does.

• 3:36Speaker 02

  At the beginning, I was like, okay, God, what are you doing to me here?

• 3:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 3:40Speaker 02

  I've never been with anybody with blonde, long blonde hair.

• 3:45Bunnie XO?

  Dog has charisma though.

• 3:46Speaker 01

  I dare, I die in there though.

• 3:48Bunnie XO?

  He's swagged out.

• 3:49Speaker 02

  Yes, he is.

• 3:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 3:50Speaker 01

  Thank you. Thank you both.

• 3:52Bunnie XO?

  You're welcome.

• 3:52Speaker 01

  Now I'm getting all big headed. Is my face, is my face red?

• 3:58Speaker 01

  But yeah, she's amazing. But what I was gonna say is, I said, will you marry me like quick? And she said, as long as you serve, uh, I'm gonna cry. She said, as long as you serve the Lord your God with all your heart. And when I started doing that, just well back, about

• 4:18Speaker 02

  Love you.

• 4:19Speaker 01

  four months ago. And

• 4:21Speaker 02

  You have not.

• 4:22Speaker 01

  I really dedicated though, like 90 days ago. And that was it. I'm sick of the devil's ass. Can you say ass?

• 4:28Speaker 02

  We're all sick of the devil's ass.

• 4:30Speaker 01

  And so, uh,

• 4:31Speaker 02

  He's robbed us of so much.

• 4:33Speaker 01

  Yeah. So the closer you get and walk in faith and all that, all that is real. I mean, it's absolutely real.

• 4:40Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 4:40Speaker 01

  So we're, we're not gonna face none of that cocka anymore. Like I said, you can't, we can't, you know, uh, the Bible says man is, you know, that's our obligation is to someday pass away, or it says die. And so, uh, but that don't mean you have to die sad and, you know, stuff like that. So we're not gonna be like we ever have been.

• 5:04Speaker 02

  We're living every day to the absolute fullest until, until we go home. That's it.

• 5:10Bunnie XO?

  You, you guys are, now that I know that you're also very open about your faith, but Dog, you have always been so open about your faith. Where, where was the moment that you felt that God was like undeniably real in your life?

• 5:23Speaker 01

  Well, I was raised a southerly God, a Pentecostal, and I'll die a Pentecostal.

• 5:30Bunnie XO?

  I was raised Southern Pentecostal.

• 5:31Speaker 01

  Oh, were you?

• 5:32Bunnie XO?

  We're crazy.

• 5:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, we are. Not the snake guys.

• 5:35Bunnie XO?

  No, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 5:37Speaker 01

  I told her that once and she said, she was Pentecostal. I go, not the snake one? She goes, what? I go, never mind.

• 5:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, no, no.

• 5:43Speaker 02

  I didn't know what that was.

• 5:45Speaker 01

  Never mind, rancher.

• 5:48Speaker 01

  So, uh, yeah, I've always let that, I was the first one on television to say prayers in Jesus's name, amen. And Nancy Dubuque said, I don't know, we have a lot of different religions that watch this, you know, A and E. Well, back then, they just had biography, you know? And so she said, I'll let you try it in the first few shows. So we, the, the head, Uh, person, uh, Victoria Gotti, hello, Victoria, aloha.

• 6:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 6:15Speaker 01

  Was, I'm sure she watches you too, but she's uh.

• 6:18Bunnie XO?

  God, Victoria, come on the podcast, please.

• 6:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, she will. Yeah, she is.

• 6:22Bunnie XO?

  I've had all the mob wives on the podcast, so I love them.

• 6:25Speaker 01

  I went out to her house, saw her dad's old Cadillac and still sitting there. Yeah.

• 6:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 6:30Speaker 01

  But, uh, so she was the leader and then, uh, we beat her. So Nancy Dubuque brought me to the A and E headquarters. And said, listen, I don't care what name you use, Buddha, whatever, but this Jesus, uh, something going on with him. You just beat all records of anybody. And the next day, Victoria Gotti was knocking on the hotel room door at the Hilton in New York, open the door right now. And I thought, oh no.

• 6:56Bunnie XO?

  She's such a G.

• 6:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh yeah. Fear. Yes. So yeah, it's, uh, uh, and she, you know, and she said, how did you do it? And I said, Jesus, Jesus. I'm gonna give you your last wish right now. White boy, I still, I'm half Apache. I'm not all the way white. You're not the Italiano. I said, no, I'm not.

• 7:18Speaker 02

  So I love listening to you talk about all that. I'm so proud of you all the time. Yes. I love you so much.

• 7:24Bunnie XO?

  We have waters here for you.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  Please.

• 7:27Bunnie XO?

  Um, you've walked with like the darkest of darkest and people you've seen so much darkness yourself. Is there any moment that you've seen something so dark that has made you question your faith?

• 7:40Speaker 01

  Uh, I have, uh, abandoned God and wound up in jail for murder that I didn't do.

• 7:49Bunnie XO?

  We're gonna get there.

• 7:50Speaker 01

  Within 24 hours of what I said.

• 7:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 7:53Speaker 01

  So, uh, God has never, ever abandoned me. I don't care what I've done, what I've done, a lot, a lot of sinning. I've done more sinning than the average Hell's Angel, because I wrote a Devil Disciples, which was a sister club to the Hell's Angels. So, and he never, ever abandoned me. And he's, you know, for someone to die for me, uh, and, you know, give his life, you know, I could at least believe in him and love him and ask him for things.

• 8:28Speaker 01

  Oh, it's good water.

• 8:29Bunnie XO?

  Oh, it's the best.

• 8:29Speaker 01

  Yes. See that? So, uh, yeah, I think faith in both of us has a lot to do and, you know, uh, I've probably been higher than any angel on dope there is. I mean, on dope, I, that didn't come out right.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  Sorry, Lord.

• 8:48Bunnie XO?

  I got, I got what you're saying.

• 8:49Speaker 02

  Slow down with that one.

• 8:51Speaker 01

  We have one angel, Lord, that's all doped up. Can you believe a third of the angels went with that prick? Sorry.

• 8:58Bunnie XO?

  That's all right.

• 8:59Speaker 01

  A third, that's a lot.

• 9:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that is a lot. And I bet they're regretting their, their decisions now.

• 9:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, yeah. I bet they are.

• 9:06Bunnie XO?

  He is a persuasive mofo.

• 9:08Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 9:09Bunnie XO?

  I mean, look at what, look what he's done on the earth, you know, so.

• 9:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:12Bunnie XO?

  Well, let's, so let's go back to your calling because I want to, that's what I'm, I'm calling your, uh, the whole beginning of your life because all of us, I feel like have a purpose and we have a calling and what happened in the beginning of our life shaped us to put us on the path to our calling. So I've heard you talk very openly about how you grew up in the assembly of God and that you played the tambourine and stuff like that. But behind even the faith, you grew up in a pretty abusive household. Can we talk about your relationship with your father and how that kind of shaped you as a child?

• 9:43Speaker 01

  Well, you know, my dad bleeding, believed in sparing the rod, spoiling the child. And it wasn't, you know, like he, so I'd have to pull my pants down, even my underwear in front of my two sisters. And he made this like board thing and he would wail on me. And he didn't hit me in the, on the buttocks. He hit me in the back of the thighs. I was 52 years old in Hawaii. I got a sunburn and I got in the car and it, like that, and I pulled over, started bawling. Because I mean, it hurt and I would beg him. I was a number one Kirby guy in America and a lot of my salesman friends says, say, because I would say, Dad, wait, wait, wait, only one time did he not.

• 10:26Speaker 01

  You know, I'll do this, I'll do that, I'll do this. Then I cried, I got beat for screaming. Then I didn't cry, I got beat for not crying. So it wasn't till I was sixty something, or seven, no, sixty-eight.

• 10:38Bunnie XO?

  No, you were in your early sixties.

• 10:40Speaker 01

  Right before my, my sister passed away, she's younger than me. And she called me and said, your dad, our dad is not your dad. Your dad is some Indian on the reservation mom used to take you to. And my mom used to say, you know, I have a son that, that just found us, me. And he was, his mom was fifteen and I was fifteen when we made him, right? We did a DNA and he's my son. So my mom said, uh,

• 11:10Speaker 01

  I won't go into that, but my mom said, you can get pregnant, just one time accidentally. I go, Mom, what if you're drunk or something? She goes, even if you're drunk. So my mom and her mom got into a big fight on her eighteenth birthday. And, uh, she went out and got drunk and had sex with this guy. And he had a, uh, grant. She went to Colorado School of Mines. And for a nurse, you know, she never finished that, Paula just told me the other day. And he had a free grant because, uh, Native American, right? And so, uh, that's my father. But at the very last, me and my dad started getting along. We went bounty hunting together. I made him a bondsman in Colorado.

• 11:51Bunnie XO?

  This was your, technically your stepfather, who you thought was your dad, okay?

• 11:54Speaker 01

  And then I got a call right before I met Francie and this lady, elderly lady of the cloth, my mom would say, say, uh, Navajo called me and said, I saw a couple of things, you know, that you talked on. Do you want to meet your daddy? He's eighty-five years old. And I said, ma'am, I had, I had a dad, his name was Wesley Deway Chapman. And you tell my biological father that I hope he believes in Jesus and I'll see him in heaven. And the Chiricahua was the only, uh, Native American tribe. There's even other Apaches that didn't believe in Jesus. But Geronimo and all them believed in Jesus. And Geronimo, uh,

• 12:37Speaker 01

  prophesied his, you know, his death riding the white, the iron horse to the reservation and all that. So, you know, and they hunted, they looked like the, uh, the chero cows, the ones that you see that'll wear horns and they could snick right up to deer. And I started thinking about, no wonder I looked like this. And I used to be able to sneak right up and make a drug deal with people. Not no more though. They see me now, they go start running. Oh, he must be wanted. One guy, uh,

• 13:06Speaker 02

  that's why, that's part of why you hunt people so well.

• 13:09Speaker 01

  Yes, we were in Florida.

• 13:10Bunnie XO?

  It's in your nature. Yeah.

• 13:12Speaker 01

  At the kind's house and I went up to get gas that day and the guy had a black van and I pulled up right and I went into, uh, buy cigarettes or something, right? And the guy was like, what's that guy running for? I go, I don't know. And he goes, I'll bet that man is hot. And so we're back a couple of days ago, a couple of days after he goes, we never did catch that guy, but he, that was a stolen van. As soon as he seen you, he took off. And I've had people, we always buy high, I drive her truck, high, big truck, a diesel and I look, you know, I'll look down like that and they'll look up and they'll put their seatbelt on real quick and you go like

• 13:50Speaker 01

  this. Oh, dog. Right. So, I mean, I'm very proud to be who I am and proud to, uh, I tell her all the time, you should tell me that. And I say, I love you so much. She goes, I love you. I go, thank you, Francie.

• 14:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you guys are the cutest.

• 14:06Speaker 01

  She's so particular and I'll put one thing over there, like that little guy in the middle. I'll put it on the end because I think it looks better. Right? And I'll come back in and it's switched back to where it was.

• 14:21Speaker 02

  Everything.

• 14:21Bunnie XO?

  I love that you're so on it though, that you're like, you can see what he does and you just quietly move it.

• 14:26Speaker 02

  Yes, everything has a, has a place.

• 14:28Speaker 01

  And she does it now when I, uh, When I'm either asleep or not paying any attention and then I come back in, I'm like, Samson, my dog, did you see mommy move that? You should have told that.

• 14:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I love that. So going back, because that was a lot to unpack in that statement that you that you had said was, okay, so you found out that your stepfather, who was being abusive to you, actually wasn't your father and that you had the opportunity to meet your dad, your real biological father, and you said you turned that down.

• 15:00Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 15:00Bunnie XO?

  Most people would never do that. What was behind that decision?

• 15:04Speaker 01

  Love.

• 15:05Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 15:08Speaker 01

  He never got to see the show Dog the Bounty Hunter. But in Colorado, I was, I arrested the Capitol Hill rapist, raped 10 women at the Capitol Hill area. Anybody that came available, I arrested. And my dad got to see that I changed my life. Him or my mother never got to see the show Dog the Bounty Hunter.

• 15:29Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 15:30Speaker 01

  And but, you know, in heaven they are because I know that my dad made it too. And I know that once in a while, the Bible says that they can look down and see us. So once in a while, God will, my mom's name was Barbara, is Barbara, and he'll go Barbara on the speaker of Barbara herself, or I don't know, three, look down at your son, quick, quick, hurry up before he backs slides. And she gets to see, you know, and

• 15:56Bunnie XO?

  They know.

• 15:57Speaker 01

  And Anthony gets to see me, Ma, you, you know.

• 16:04Bunnie XO?

  Well, so from that situation that you grew up in, you ended up leaving home and that sent you on a path to joining the devil's disciples, correct? And like you were about 15 when that happened?

• 16:16Speaker 01

  14 when I ran away.

• 16:17Bunnie XO?

  Right. And you quit school in seventh grade?

• 16:19Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 16:20Bunnie XO?

  Take me on this journey of leaving home at such a young age and, you know, finding people to protect you because essentially, joining a bike gang is you're looking for some sort of protection or something to belong to.

• 16:32Speaker 01

  Well, I was in the sixth grade and, you know, back in the second, third, fourth grade, you could shower with guys. And so I wouldn't shower. I dropped out of recess. I mean, out of a Uh, sports. I love sports. Still do, right? Especially football. And, uh, so they all said-

• 16:51Speaker 02

  Because you didn't want to change-

• 16:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, the kids were-

• 16:54Speaker 02

  Your legs were black and blue.

• 16:55Speaker 01

  Yes. And so the kids-

• 16:56Speaker 02

  And he didn't want to have to change in front of anybody.

• 16:59Speaker 01

  The kids were teasing me. So, uh, you know, I went to Mr. Sykes, I'll never forget his name, and, you know, pulled my pants down and showed him. And he said, "You sit right there." I said, "Whatever you do, you can't tell my dad." And lo and behold, my dad came in there gritting his teeth and all, looking at me all crazy, right? And I'm like, "Oh, man." So I sat right there. Mr. Sykes ratted me off. So then my dad beat me when I got home. So then, uh, three or four, a year later, maybe, uh, I had a, I was 14 and a half. I had enough of it. And I had this big Bowie knife, right? That we'd, I'd use for hunting. And so, uh, my dad, my mom came in and she's like, "Wes, you know, stop.

• 17:42Speaker 01

  He's getting too old to be beat like that." And she, he pushed her. So I backed into the closet. I told him, "Listen, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and I'll gut you like a pig. You ever touch mom." And so he threw all my stuff from the bedroom out the window and I went to live with my grandpa. And then I went to Phoenix, Arizona, a couple of times. Got in with the brothers there and then became a full-fledged devil's disciple. So, yes.

• 18:09Speaker 02

  Well, and that, that started because you liked, like Bunny said, you, you had liked the fact that the brothers all rode together. They had this-

• 18:22Bunnie XO?

  And they could protect you.

• 18:23Speaker 02

  They had this connection that couldn't be broken.

• 18:27Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 18:27Speaker 01

  And then my dad and my mom, they had a camper, a small, well, not small, Mitchell camper. And, uh, I said, "You want to come to Arizona and beat the brothers?" And I thought, "Yeah, they're gonna knock him out, right?" So we did a barbecue out in the clubhouse area, right? And so I saw them all. I was sat with my mom in the camper and I go, my mom's like, "Look at your dad. He's just laughing away." I said, "Yeah, until I get to know him, they're gonna beat him up." And so I went to the president-

• 18:56Speaker 02

  That's what you wanted.

• 18:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I went to the president named Who Dad? And he goes, "Man, I wish I'd had a dad that cool." I'm like, "Oh, my God."

• 19:06Bunnie XO?

  You're like, if you only knew.

• 19:07Speaker 01

  It backfired on me and I wasn't gonna tell him.

• 19:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 19:10Speaker 01

  Them brothers, you know, he beat me all black and blue, but yeah.

• 19:14Speaker 02

  Well, and your sister and I have had some of those conversations. Your mom protected you so much because of what happened. And she, she got pregnant and your dad was willing to marry her. But he also resented you for it and he was an angry guy.

• 19:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, he was a, what do you call it drunk?

• 19:38Bunnie XO?

  Well, he was also a boxer in the Navy.

• 19:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, he taught me how to box.

• 19:42Bunnie XO?

  I mean, to be punching on a child when you're a professional boxer is brutal.

• 19:46Speaker 01

  But he would box with me, take the hose and put it around like a ring. And I, he'd say, come on, come on, right? So I'd clip him a couple of times, bam. And so I was like, man, and my mom say, don't do that. You know, uh, don't, uh, call Mike Tyson a punk in his face. You know what I mean?

• 20:06Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 20:06Speaker 01

  Cause when I hit him like that, he'd get mad and hurt me.

• 20:09Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 20:10Speaker 01

  So then he put me into karate where I got a black belt in karate. So, uh, I can, you know, still, you know, I can't beat Francie up, but I can beat anybody.

• 20:20Bunnie XO?

  Well, she's a rancher. I don't think you'd be able to.

• 20:23Speaker 01

  No, I would never.

• 20:25Bunnie XO?

  I'm just kidding.

• 20:25Speaker 01

  I loved her.

• 20:26Bunnie XO?

  So moving on, can you tell? Can you tell us the story about how you got your name dog? Cause I thought this was actually really cool.

• 20:33Speaker 01

  So when we, uh, I still do it all the time. Uh, every time before we eat as bikers, I would say, you know, all right, everybody, let's say the blessing. And we all didn't hold hands in a circle, but, uh, they go, okay. Cause some of the stuff they ate, man, I, one guy told me one time, I think it was Pete disciple said, why are you always praying? And I go, you want to eat that without praying? How long you think that's been dead? Is it still dead? Cause they'll eat raw, like not cooked, seared on one side. It's, you know, I mean, like in your mouth, bloody kind.

• 21:07Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I can't do that.

• 21:08Speaker 01

  And so, no. And so I would pray.

• 21:10Speaker 02

  I can't do it.

• 21:11Speaker 01

  My president, uh, they, he gives you the names. So I was a prospect. I didn't want to prospect for those six months. So, uh, they, he, uh, one day I heard, you know, they pulled up, I thought, oh, oh. It was in Arizona and, uh,

• 21:27Speaker 01

  He came to the door, it's never locked for prez. And so he comes in, he sits down, he goes, so. You don't want a prospect for six months. I go, no. Cause they caught me partying with the Hells Angels, right at the Jimi Hendrix. And Janis Joplin concert, right? And she was almost at the Hells Angel herself. They loved her. And so, uh. The president said, well.

• 21:52Bunnie XO?

  Janis Joplin was?

• 21:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:54Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 21:54Speaker 01

  Well, her first album, you'll see a Hells Angel signa. Signia. And back then, still today. If you ain't a Hells Angel, you better not say you were ever, cause they're. You know, they're dumb, they're still the number one bike gang in America and abroad.

• 22:11Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 22:11Speaker 01

  So, uh, he said, well, why? I said, cuz. He goes, well, you're over there with the Hells Angels. I go, yeah, you know the guy's name? And I go, so the Hells Angel told my president, said, listen, that little guy. We were all sitting there smoking with these hippies and drinking wine. You know, at the concert, yay, like in a church, Pentecostal praising the Lord. It wasn't the Lord who he's praising.

• 22:33Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 22:35Speaker 01

  Well, I was thinking the other day, you know. You stand, you sitting at a concert, four or five hours. You hear five songs, but you can't sit in church for two.

• 22:44Bunnie XO?

  Right, that's true.

• 22:45Speaker 01

  So anyway, he said, uh. I'm gonna nickname you Dog, because I, I know I'm man's best friend. And, uh, he said, you can fight. And I told him about my dad. And he said, well, I'm gonna name you Dog. Cause you're always saying prayers and you are man's best friend, best friend. And the sergeant of arms, it just went to the joint for murder. So I'm gonna see what you do with the sergeant of arms. So he told little Pat, the vice president, go out there on the bike, get his. Get his colors on, on Pat's bike. And he kinda, eh. And so he said, I hereby call you Dog, because that's God spelled backwards. And so little Pat said, okay, puppy. And my president said, don't call him that. And I, he said, you might wanna call him a mutt.

• 23:29Speaker 01

  But don't, and I had fake ID. If they'd have ever found out I wasn't 18. They would have never found me. You know what I mean? So.

• 23:36Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 23:37Speaker 01

  Yep. I've seen things that, you know. Only in prison, you see.

• 23:43Bunnie XO?

  No, your testimony is insane, as I was researching it last night. Um, so for the new listeners at home who aren't familiar with you and didn't have the privilege of being able to grow up with you, can we touch base on the arrest of where you kind of found God and changed your life? You got arrested for, um, it was first degree, uh, first degree murder conviction in Texas.

• 24:06Speaker 01

  Well, I'd already, you know, been close to God, okay?

• 24:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 24:09Speaker 01

  But one night my brother-

• 24:10Speaker 02

  But he walked away.

• 24:11Speaker 01

  Right, one night my brother-in-law sits up, I was driving my chopper drunk, and my pager went off, kept going off, so I called him, I go, "What's up?" He was my best man at my first wedding. And he was a convict too, but he's the, he's still, I talk to him, what, at once, twice a week? He's 85 going on 86, and he's a great guy. And I told him, "Screw God and screw you."

• 24:33Bunnie XO?

  What a long life, though.

• 24:34Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 24:35Bunnie XO?

  Eighty-six, to live to eighty-six, what a privilege.

• 24:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, he went to prison for-

• 24:41Speaker 01

  Robbery. Grocery store.

• 24:43Speaker 02

  And-

• 24:43Speaker 01

  One of his guys got, his friends got killed by a cop.

• 24:46Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 24:47Speaker 02

  And then, he's been, um, he's been a prison chaplain for a long time, and now he's eighty-five, he's got the greatest stories.

• 24:57Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 24:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, and he just told me the other day, he said, "He had a street gang." And he goes, "This is why, when I heard you join them." And I go, "What was the name of it?" And he goes, "You're never gonna believe it." And I go, "What was it, Dave?" "Devil's disciples." So it all comes around, I'm like, "Oh." So, uh-

• 25:18Bunnie XO?

  We're talking about what landed you in prison for the first time.

• 25:22Speaker 01

  So, uh, I was in Pampa, we were just, I quit doing felonies when Dwayne Lee, my first, that I knew of, first son was born.

• 25:30Bunnie XO?

  Which, it said you got married at sixteen?

• 25:32Speaker 01

  No, seventeen.

• 25:33Bunnie XO?

  Seventeen?

• 25:34Speaker 01

  No, eighteen to La Fonda.

• 25:35Bunnie XO?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 25:36Speaker 01

  But I lived with the girl at fifteen, yes.

• 25:39Bunnie XO?

  Got you, okay.

• 25:39Speaker 01

  And so, but legally married, I was, uh, eighteen.

• 25:43Speaker 02

  You were in Pampa?

• 25:44Speaker 01

  I was in Pampa, and I didn't do felonies, because Dwayne Lee, I promised God I won't do felonies, but I supervised him. So I brought the president.

• 25:52Bunnie XO?

  You're bribing God.

• 25:53Speaker 01

  I brought the president of the Hades Heads from Colorado, Ray Ray, to Pampa. And I told him, man, people just walk across the street here with bags of money in their hand, going across the street to deposit it.

• 26:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 26:06Speaker 01

  You know, I robbed, well, back then, they weren't banks. They were savings and loans and, you know, I was, I stick them up, you know.

• 26:14Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 26:14Speaker 01

  I robbed places with shotguns and stuff.

• 26:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 26:17Speaker 01

  And so they called me up, said, you want to buy pot? And I said, yeah, we need some. Well, the only pot there was this pimp named Jerry Oliver, who was my good friend, because I wasn't raised in the South. You know, I didn't know nothing about that, how racist they really were. So my brother and his, Donnie Cock, now Ruben Garza, Cheryl and Fisher, picked me up with some other guy in the car. And I had my coyote collar, well, I didn't have that because I could sound like a rabbit, and my 308 rifle. And we've done it before, so we were going to do it at night, right? This time, usually in the day. And we have big, bright lights, we could see them, right? And so they said, we're gonna get.

• 27:02Bunnie XO?

  You missed all that. You skipped over all that.

• 27:04Speaker 01

  What's that?

• 27:05Bunnie XO?

  That you guys were going coyote hunting.

• 27:06Speaker 01

  Oh, well, we were.

• 27:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 27:08Speaker 01

  So then on the way there, this guy said, we're gonna rob.

• 27:11Bunnie XO?

  Slow down.

• 27:12Speaker 01

  So on the way.

• 27:15Bunnie XO?

  I love it.

• 27:18Speaker 01

  Jim Curry, when he goes backwards like that house. So.

• 27:21Bunnie XO?

  I just, he probably has told this story so many times that it's easy to just brush over things.

• 27:26Speaker 01

  Yes, I'm sorry.

• 27:27Bunnie XO?

  No, you're good.

• 27:28Speaker 01

  The guy said they're gonna rob Jerry. I said, I threw that guy out of the car. And then Donnie was saying, try this. I said, the guy knows me, he's my friend. And he bought this big sack, had a whole bunch of booze in it, so I ripped it on purpose. So I told him, you go. He goes, I go, I'll go in and get the dope. No, I'll go in, man, I'll go in, okay, go. So I had this shotgun. That was the one thing that I had sold it for 35 bucks to the guy who threw out the car. And I said, Donnie, go up there.

• 27:57Bunnie XO?

  There's a lot happening in this car.

• 27:58Speaker 01

  Yes. I said, Donnie, you go ahead and go up there, but don't get nasty with this guy. I'm sure he's got weapons. He's a convict, been in prison twice for pimping and pandering. And so, and he looked like, uh, he wore like different color suits and cool. I thought, man, he looks so cool. I saw him walking down the street in Pampers one day, these two girls on both sides of him. And I told him, man, what do you do? And he goes, I'm a pimp. I go, oh, I was a pimp too, right? I was a devil's disciple. I'm gonna start a new pimp organization. So we, I used to park my Harley on his front lawn when I bought by Potter, just go see him and

• 28:40Speaker 01

  leave it running. And the night crawlers would crawl up for go fishing, right? He'd say, you coming over? And he'd wet his grass down, leave that hog running. I said, all right. So we were good friends. And so all of a sudden, Donnie goes up to the door and we're all sitting there. Also, we hear a loud boom. And I say a lot of times that shotgun blast was so loud and it changed my life forever and ever. Amen. He came running out and the bottom of the shotgun wasn't put on right. So it split his hand up. So I said, get him in the hospital. I thought Donnie had shot him in the arm or hand. And on the way there, he said, I hit him in the shoulder. I go, what? I pulled his long hair back. I go, you did what? I hit him in the shoulder. I go,

• 29:24Speaker 01

  with what? The shotgun you sold so and so. I go, where's it at? Uh, it's right here. And he pulls it out of his jacket. And it wasn't still smoking, I don't think. But in my mind, I think there's a little smoke coming out of it, you know, a little spooky, like genie in a bottle stuff. So I said, you guys take him to hospital. I went home and told my first wife, LaFonda, what had happened, the truth. And we had Prince's phones. When it hung up, 911, listen to everything. And so I went over there, they ask him was, uh, brother love was there? He just died last

• 30:01Speaker 01

  year. This, this, uh, cop. And, uh, he was my good friend too. And I'll go back to that in a minute. So I said, uh, take him to hospital. So I went over there. They said, was it, who was it? He said devil's disciples. He was talking. And they said, was it dog here? And he goes, no, it's his brothers. So in the morning that I'll never forget the radio. Dwayne Chapman, Donnie Fisher, I was being sought for the shotgun slaying massacre of Jerry Oliver last night in Tampa, Texas. And so we all went to jail, $50,000 bonds, and we seen a real judge, $500, $5,000 bonds.

• 30:46Speaker 01

  My grandpa was the only one that had money, came down and bonded me out, stayed out for a year, got the best lawyer there, I sold my chopper, everything, and they found all four of us guilty. Well, my former wife was sneaking me pills through the jail. I put a little thing out, she give me these downers. And so I was really high when I went to sentencing. And Judge Granger McElhaney said, I'm gonna hereby sentence you to five years. I thought, oh, five years for murder in Texas? I thought it was 99. I didn't say that. And he said, so hereby release you of hard labor, he said. I didn't understand what that meant.

• 31:29Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 31:30Speaker 01

  So I kinda laughed because I was so high and I go, Your Honor, I could hold a snuff can over a bear's ass for five years. He goes, oh, is that right, Minnie Mouse? And I go, my nickname's Dog, don't you forget it. He goes, here's something you won't forget. I hereby resentge you to five years and one day in the Texas Department of Correction with the hardest labor they got for you.

• 31:56Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 31:56Speaker 01

  And so everybody waited six month or so to go, I was there in 30 days. Then when I became, the story about me being in prison, I got to say the prayers, I was known as Dog. I became Warden's Barber, I was the most spoiled guy in prison. You could not hold a raised-

• 32:14Bunnie XO?

  That doesn't surprise me.

• 32:15Speaker 01

  I had a barber shop where they came the guards-

• 32:17Speaker 02

  He talks his way out and into everything.

• 32:20Bunnie XO?

  He has a horseshoe up his ass, that's what I say about my, my husband. I'm like, you-

• 32:24Speaker 01

  Nothing about my, oh, call-

• 32:25Bunnie XO?

  Well, you know what I'm saying, but I always tell my husband, I'm like, you have a horseshoe up your ass. He could talk his way out of a paper bag.

• 32:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:32Bunnie XO?

  If he gets pulled over, he gets let go. I get pulled over, they want me to go turn myself in and give him a mug shot, you know? Yeah, like, I don't have that kind of luck. What in the world possessed you to say that to that judge in that moment? Was it just because you were high?

• 32:47Speaker 01

  I was so high. I was flabbergasted that it was only a nickel, five years. You know, I never heard to know five years for murder in Texas. It's still the biggest state that executes everybody, or you get 99 years. That's it. There's no parole.

• 33:02Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 33:02Speaker 01

  So anyway, uh, worked my way up 60, got first time I came up for parole. Not right. Second time, you know, I thought, God, I'll never get this right. So the head warden, my reputation grew of all the farms, right? He's the best barber there ever is. So Warden, uh, Jacka came to visit me. So he said, why you just did it? The law had just changed. I was convicted in 76 and the law had just changed in 70 from 69. It was where if you walked in and your wife was doing a guy, you could legally shoot him. There was some law.

• 33:44Speaker 02

  Make my day law.

• 33:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:47Speaker 02

  That's in Colorado though.

• 33:48Speaker 01

  Would you do that to me?

• 33:50Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Hell, yes.

• 33:51Bunnie XO?

  That a girl, that a girl.

• 33:53Speaker 01

  And so, uh, she said, I don't need a man. I'll be in free, I'll go to prison preaching the gospel.

• 33:59Speaker 02

  Oh, yes, I have told you that before.

• 34:02Speaker 01

  I'm scared of you.

• 34:05Bunnie XO?

  You have to be a little scared of who you're married to. My husband will tell you the same thing and I'm a little scared of him too. So it's, it keeps it healthy.

• 34:12Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 34:13Speaker 01

  So, uh, I told him the story I just told you. And so that night I went, you know, he just was like listening, right? Looking at me all warden ish. And so that night, the goon squad came to my cell, said, you're under arrest. They read your rights. I go, for what? Lying to the warden, you got a problem. You're going to kick kicked out of being a barber, everything. And so, cause they just made a law after I was a barber, that any inmate that has a sharp weapon cannot work around guards. I use a straight edge, the male boss next door to me.

• 34:47Speaker 02

  Wait, if you were convicted of murder.

• 34:49Speaker 01

  No, if you have, if your, if your crime involved a weapon.

• 34:55Speaker 02

  Oh, gotcha. Okay.

• 34:56Bunnie XO?

  So you're not allowed to use any, you're not have anything.

• 34:59Speaker 01

  Warden goes, dog, that don't mean you. Warden Horton or Curly Horton was the name. So anyway, back to the head warden, so I get arrested. Next day you go to court, I walk in lieutenant, uh, warden, uh, boss, Ironhorn, a bunch of them sitting up there, right? And I'm like, And when I got to the, the thing, they uncuffed me, you know, unshackled me and all that. And I'm like, uh oh, what are they gonna do? So I go in there. And he's the warden said, now you told me the story in the barber chair. I happen to know Roof Jordan, the sheriff's dad. And I called Roof Jordan and by God, boy, you told me the truth, the whole truth and maybe quite not nothing but the truth, but

• 35:43Speaker 01

  I, I can't believe that Judge Granger McElhaney gave you five years and a day. I didn't say, cause I told him about snuff can, right? Cause I'm not sure I'd have got out. So he said, I know your birthday is February 2nd. And he said, I wish I could have done it February the, the 6th. And he said, this year, 1979 of the great Lord of something in the great state of Texas. I can, and they still can. Any warden can override what a judge sentences you to, right? Nowadays they call it good time. But back then a warden could change the whole thing.

• 36:21Bunnie XO?

  I never knew that.

• 36:21Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 36:22Speaker 02

  I didn't know that either.

• 36:23Speaker 01

  Yes. Well, you watch TV, don't you? Want a warden changing? Guy's a good guy.

• 36:28Bunnie XO?

  I've never, I've never heard that.

• 36:30Speaker 01

  So, well.

• 36:31Speaker 02

  And just because it's on TV doesn't mean it's true.

• 36:33Speaker 01

  That's true. At least back then, 76, in 79. So, uh, he said, February the 6th, 1979, boy, you're the hell out of here. And the sheriff said that you couldn't join the army because they said they take women and children before they took me. You can't do nothing, but you're a damn good guy. And he said, I want you to go out there dogging. I want you to be something. All these damn inmates, they love you. They just love you. And I became a bounty hunter in prison. You know, a guy ran, I seen him. My big friend, I tackled him down. And all of a sudden lieutenant threw down the handcuffs and said the magic words. Hook him up bounty hunter. And my favorite shows was Guy's Bounty Hunter.

• 37:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 37:18Speaker 01

  Wanted Dead or Alive was my favorite show of still today.

• 37:22Bunnie XO?

  So the inspiration for bounty hunting.

• 37:24Speaker 01

  Yes, for watching TV when I was a child. And so, uh, The I got out, uh, went straight to Texas wouldn't accept me, went straight in, ordered my handcuffs out of a

• 37:37Speaker 02

  You went to Denver?

• 37:38Speaker 01

  Denver, ordered my handcuffs. My mom said, what are you gonna do? I said, I gotta have a badge. So I had a couple dumb badges and I ordered one from a comic book.

• 37:46Bunnie XO?

  Um, so that's my next question is how, as somebody who has been in prison, how were you able to do bounty hunting back then? Were the laws different? Because I know that sometimes people who are, were you a felon?

• 37:59Speaker 01

  Mm hmm. Yeah.

• 38:00Bunnie XO?

  Felons weren't allowed to do bounty hunting legally, were they?

• 38:03Speaker 02

  No.

• 38:03Speaker 01

  Well, back then, yes, because when I started

• 38:05Speaker 02

  Now they're not.

• 38:06Speaker 01

  In 1980, 81, really 79.

• 38:09Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 38:09Speaker 01

  They, there were no laws. There were no bounty hunters.

• 38:12Bunnie XO?

  Right. Okay.

• 38:13Speaker 01

  Papa Thorne was the only bounty hunter and he just, he did, he did it like, he wrote bail and caught his own guys, right? Put one guy, spent the night at his house. I arrested over 10,000.

• 38:24Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 38:25Speaker 01

  And so I just went by the law Abraham Lincoln wrote. So I got out, went to the post office, got the number one most wanted in Colorado, scammed this guy, got him, called my mom. We took him to the 13th or 14th floor of the federal building in Denver and I used a big diaper pin, pinned the warrant right on his chest. I went in and told this lady, I go, hi, this is 10,000. What's your name? I go, my name is Dog the Bounty Hunter. Here's my badge. And I had

• 38:55Speaker 02

  They were so freaked out. I love, I love this part of the story though, because they were so freaked out that you showed up at their building with a guy, with a diaper pin and his wanted poster.

• 39:07Speaker 01

  And his mommy right by with me, right?

• 39:10Speaker 02

  Saying, I just arrested one of your top 10. I want my $10,000.

• 39:15Speaker 01

  And the lady goes, is this you? I go, ma'am, excuse me, don't you have to go to college to be a fed? Well, I'm the receptionist. I go, well, go get a couple of real feds. You see his face? See that? See his name? Is that you? Yes. So these two, you know, men in black came walking out, right? And they said, uh, what now? So I explained to them the law that, you know, blah, blah, blah, citizen's right to arrest, whatever. And so, uh, I said, I need my 10 grand. They go, come back Monday. I go, oh, no, no, no, no. You guys are all broke. You know, Nixon resigned and he, uh-uh. Listen, my mom said, it'll be okay. We'll come back Monday. Came back Monday. They wrote me a check with this carbon thing.

• 39:56Speaker 02

  That's hilarious. You took your mom.

• 39:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know.

• 39:59Bunnie XO?

  I know.

• 39:59Speaker 02

  You took your mommy.

• 40:00Bunnie XO?

  Mom's a gangster.

• 40:01Speaker 01

  That was mommy's boy.

• 40:02Speaker 02

  He was a mommy's boy.

• 40:04Bunnie XO?

  But she was your protector. And you wanted to protect her also, you know?

• 40:08Speaker 01

  So those mothers that are praying for their kids out there, just keep praying.

• 40:11Bunnie XO?

  Keep praying.

• 40:12Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 40:13Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 40:14Speaker 01

  So I went, I'm sorry.

• 40:15Bunnie XO?

  You're good, go ahead.

• 40:16Speaker 01

  So then all of a sudden, the FBI called me. Keith Paul said, meet me at White Spot. He goes, what are you doing? I go, bounty hunter, man. Where's your badge? I showed him and I didn't even know what it meant. So I took it to a police supply store to have my name and my, and the cop goes, hi, Officer Chapman. He goes, I go, hi, I'm Officer Chapman. How you doing? Cause then you could have long hair and tats, right? And I goes, good. How are you? I go, good. You know, I don't know. I got this badge and they didn't put my number on it. And he goes, well, I got a thing right back here. They can etch it on. He goes, what's your number anyway? And I'm like, oh my God, right? Cause impersonating a police officer is still a felony in Colorado.

• 40:57Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 40:58Speaker 01

  So I-

• 40:58Speaker 02

  It's everywhere.

• 40:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 40:59Speaker 01

  So I'm like, oh, and I've told the Lord, you're the one that told me to be a bounty hunter. Now I've been out of jail a year. I'm going right back into cell 11. Oh no. And so I go 271097. He wrote it down, right? Goes in the back. I'm thinking, oh, he's going to call SWAT. He runs my record. Murder conviction just got out. Oh my God. Goes back. He goes, here you go, Officer Chapman. That's my prison number. And still today, that's on my badge.

• 41:26Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I was just about to ask, where did you pull that number from?

• 41:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. Cause that's they, you know, they, well, they didn't forget my name.

• 41:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 41:35Speaker 01

  You know, it became a number, but it's, I'll never forget that number. So he said, listen, there's bail bondsman. You know what that is? I go, yeah. And so I went to this guy named Lucky Luceros and it was on. And I started arresting everybody.

• 41:50Speaker 02

  Jumps, right?

• 41:52Speaker 01

  And then I met Tony Robbins and Martin Sheen and Tony Robbins.

• 41:55Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 41:55Speaker 01

  Martin Sheen said, you need to do the Osbournes. I did two of their shows. Sharon loved me. Ozzy, I loved him.

• 42:02Bunnie XO?

  We loved them.

• 42:02Speaker 01

  And Jack, and they wrote the Dog, the Bounty Hunter song. And so it just went from there. I got the TV show, but never, ever, ever did, I mean, as a Christian, we gotta fight, but not like Jesus did.

• 42:18Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 42:19Speaker 01

  You know, we can win and keep on winning. Okay. I don't know about in 10 years or so, but I hope I'm in heaven or we're all raptured by then.

• 42:29Speaker 02

  Hey, don't say that.

• 42:30Speaker 01

  Well, I'll go with you.

• 42:31Speaker 02

  I need 20. I need 20 more years.

• 42:34Speaker 01

  You told me 15, five years ago.

• 42:36Speaker 02

  No, I told you, you had to give me 20.

• 42:38Bunnie XO?

  Well, maybe she kinda likes you and wants another five.

• 42:41Speaker 02

  I need some extra time. And we have a lot of stuff to do still.

• 42:45Speaker 01

  Well, tell the Lord that.

• 42:46Bunnie XO?

  You turned a mistake into a mission. When did you realize that the world needed a man like you?

• 42:53Speaker 02

  I don't think he ever realized that. He still doesn't. He, I know you need to speak into that, but it amazes me because I didn't know who he was when I met him. And then there was COVID and, and everything was shut down. And so it was just us. And so when the world opened back up and I started going places with him and

• 43:20Speaker 02

  I started to see how, how people just loved him from all walks of life, love him.

• 43:29Speaker 02

  And how

• 43:30Speaker 01

  Cause I love them too.

• 43:32Speaker 02

  He loves people genuinely in his heart. He loves people.

• 43:36Bunnie XO?

  That's how my husband is too. It's so beautiful to watch a man move like that.

• 43:40Speaker 02

  And he knows what he came out of and he wants everybody to have the chance that he had.

• 43:46Speaker 01

  Well, I was in Texas prison and the N word was used, even they called me that inner dog. And I never heard, I heard grown men, big men at night screaming, mommy, mommy, help me, mommy. And I was like, God dang, they treated him so bad. You ever, could you ever get a cigarette? Never. And I said, Lord, I'll do this for you. And every single person that I catch, whether I didn't know the backseat, sometimes I put him right next to me. Learned from experience and I said, I'll tell everyone about Jesus. And in the beginning, I would say about, oh, you know, this, this guy was burglar of a residence.

• 44:30Speaker 01

  First time it was really his girlfriend's house. He broke in to get her stuff. I go, they're gonna drop it down. I go, and I told him my story. And I go, you know, that guy is, is really famous today. And so as the cops said, here, dog, they couldn't, Colorado couldn't find the guy. I had him in two, three days. And so I put him in the cell and I like that and they were, and I go, I'm sorry, man. You know, I wanted to put you in, but I didn't know that I could be the one to turn the key. And he goes, listen, dog. Really deep voice. He goes, that story was you, wasn't it? And I go, yeah, he goes, well, hell.

• 45:14Speaker 01

  You pray for me right now? So I told the guard, can I pray? So he put his hand on the bars. And I lit up heaven, right? I don't ever know whatever happened to that guy, but that was my purpose, you know, to go after the, not the rich and the famous, but to pull and hers. To pulls the doomed cell, the doomed souls out of the pit of hell. That's my calling, you know, it's not in a church and even though I, we go to a great church in where we live in, in Georgia, but we

• 45:51Speaker 02

  We're called to pull people from the gates of hell.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  Yes. And we're gonna keep doing it till we go to heaven.

• 45:57Speaker 02

  So we go home.

• 45:59Bunnie XO?

  That was poetic, actually. When I, when I heard that, it was just like moves you to hear somebody say that, you know. Um, most people never see the weight of being the protector. What do you feel that that responsibility has cost you in life? Because you are such a protector of everybody around you and even people who don't know you.

• 46:19Speaker 01

  I'd have been dead if I wouldn't have hid behind a lot of them. No.

• 46:23Bunnie XO?

  I was like, okay. I said, hmm.

• 46:28Speaker 01

  You know, uh, one time my son Lila was afraid to go in a door. And the guy got out the back, by the way. And so he hesitated, he goes, Dad, what if there's, there's a bunch of cartel in there? Cause we looked in the window, machine guns on the ground and everything, right? I go, son, you remember that story in the Bible? Where the servant came to Joshua and said, Hey, man, these guys are gonna kill us, they're giants. And Joshua bowed his head and said, Lord, show my servant what is there? And round about the camp, the servant saw angels with big swords and was like,

• 47:11Speaker 01

  I go, Leland, we got us an angel. So right now, let's say the sinner's prayer, Lord, forgive me for all my sins. Into your arms I may come. Leland's like shaking, oh, Dad. Boom, we booted there, on the ground, I spoke in Spanish, hands in the air, don't nobody move, right? Bam, I heard the back door slam and I knew he got away, right? So I went out and when I was first talking to her, uh, she's in, I'm in California hunting the guy, she's in, uh,

• 47:40Speaker 02

  Colorado.

• 47:40Speaker 01

  But what part of Colorado were you in?

• 47:42Speaker 02

  Elizabeth.

• 47:43Speaker 01

  Elizabeth. And she tells me the same scripture. And I'm like, wait a minute. How would this white lady?

• 47:55Speaker 01

  Whose name is Francie? I couldn't even remember her name, I had to call her Fancy Francie.

• 48:03Speaker 01

  Even though that she wasn't there, how does? Ew, the prayer. Lord, I need a woman, not just for, you know, hoochie coochie, but I need a soulmate, I need someone that I could lean on to. I need somebody that knows God and has given her life to God. Uh, you know, I need, I just can't do it by myself. You know, I've been with a woman since 14. And, you know, they were my age, she's the youngest.

• 48:35Speaker 01

  Wife I've ever had. And so I was like, I need, I need, I need a

• 48:41Speaker 02

  You're getting way ahead of where she's at.

• 48:44Bunnie XO?

  It's okay.

• 48:45Speaker 02

  She asked about you being the protector. And how it weighs on him.

• 48:51Bunnie XO?

  What has that cost you to be the protector?

• 48:55Speaker 02

  Why?

• 48:57Speaker 01

  I'm born to be. I don't understand. Is it something not cool?

• 49:01Bunnie XO?

  No, no.

• 49:02Speaker 02

  It is cool, but

• 49:04Bunnie XO?

  It's a heavy burden to bear to be everybody's protector and

• 49:08Speaker 02

  And it does weigh on him.

• 49:10Bunnie XO?

  All the time. Like in life, has that cost you a sense of like, well, you just actually answered it right there. That's your purpose and it doesn't even bother you or affect you in that way. You've never thought of it as like, oh, my God, I have to just be everybody's protector. It just comes naturally.

• 49:26Speaker 02

  Yes. He doesn't look at it like that at all because that's, that's who he is and it's what he's supposed to do. And he doesn't know how to do anything else.

• 49:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 49:35Speaker 02

  And he would never even think about not trying to do that.

• 49:41Bunnie XO?

  Let's fast forward and talk about these kids because you have 13 of them. Let's, I want to know, he said, yay.

• 49:49Speaker 01

  Hup, anabop, to the crocodile rock.

• 49:52Bunnie XO?

  You have 13 kids who have seen you at your highest and lowest. Some relationships have been beautiful, some strained, some mended, and some are still healing. What do you think your kids would say is your superpower as a father?

• 50:08Speaker 01

  Well, the Bible says that if, when you are successful, that you'll leave your grandchildren money. Now, didn't say nothing about your great grandchildren, but even my little Gigi, great granddaughter. She's what 13 now? She gets in trouble or something. She goes, my grandpa's dog, the bounty hunter. They're like, whoa. They call her dad and goes, is that your dad? And you know, that's his grandpa, that's her grandpa, my oldest son.

• 50:37Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 50:38Speaker 01

  And he goes, yeah, that's, and they're like, oh, okay. We're not going to make her do, can you get a picture from him? So I there I said in my first book, if there's a dime left over in the bank account, that's where I met Francie. Uh, I made a mistake, but your dad, boy, boys and girls, is giving you everything. I was the one of the best dads as far as my, I never, even when I was single, spent the night at a woman's house. Cause who could I get to babysit?

• 51:10Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 51:10Speaker 01

  You know, five brats. And I mean, brats. Okay.

• 51:14Speaker 02

  No, you just had to get girlfriends to marry you to take care of all those kids.

• 51:19Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. I ran an ad. Can I say this about baby Lisa?

• 51:23Speaker 02

  No.

• 51:24Speaker 01

  Oh, it was cute.

• 51:25Bunnie XO?

  Aww.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 51:27Bunnie XO?

  Okay, say it. Say it. And if we need to cut it out, we can.

• 51:30Speaker 02

  Yes, you can. Cause I thought it was something else.

• 51:32Speaker 01

  No, I ran an ad in the, in the Kona paper needed, uh, housekeeper, single father, five children. Cause I was a single dad for a lot. I won my kids at court. And so, uh,

• 51:47Speaker 01

  every girl that came over brought a bottle of wine, right? So I.

• 51:50Speaker 02

  Yeah. So you slept with everyone.

• 51:52Speaker 01

  Yeah. Only like.

• 51:55Bunnie XO?

  So dog is a lover. We can go ahead and say that. Dog is a lover.

• 51:59Speaker 02

  That's putting it nicely.

• 52:01Speaker 01

  Yes. So are you, mama. So, uh, my baby Lisa was like seven. And so we take turns every day. Someone else say the blessing, right? So I tell her, okay, baby Lisa, your time. Lord, thank you for this food. Please help dad quit fucking all the maids.

• 52:21Speaker 01

  Oh, my God. I said, right? Baby Lisa. Well, dad, it's true. They're all gonna be our mommies. I'm like, cause I needed, uh, you know, a mom.

• 52:32Bunnie XO?

  That is great.

• 52:34Speaker 01

  I tried a couple and then I divorced them.

• 52:36Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my goodness, dog. So you've lived life on camera as we've all got to see your journey. How do you repair things with your kids privately versus doing it in front of the world for the world?

• 52:49Speaker 01

  Very hard. All of them now are jam up jelly tight. Thank goodness. Especially the girls. Listen, if you guys are gonna have, they can make it now where you know what cycle to go on to make a boy, don't make any girls because they are.

• 53:02Bunnie XO?

  Hallelujah.

• 53:03Speaker 01

  Let me tell you something.

• 53:05Bunnie XO?

  No, my husband and I are to say that through and through. We do not, because we're trying to have a baby. We want boys. We do not want girls.

• 53:12Speaker 01

  Well, they can, your cycle, they can figure it out now.

• 53:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 53:16Speaker 02

  I'm so grateful that God did not give me girls.

• 53:20Bunnie XO?

  Oh, they're so emotional.

• 53:21Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh, I couldn't have done it.

• 53:23Bunnie XO?

  Oh, it's, it's, they become little demons from thirteen to seventeen and a half. I'm like.

• 53:28Speaker 01

  No, they turn out when they get twenty-one and all that. Then it's, then they get thirty-five and they know more than you do.

• 53:34Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no.

• 53:35Speaker 01

  When they hit like forty-one or two, then they're like, God, I didn't know you knew so much, Dad. You know, they're at least just bare.

• 53:43Bunnie XO?

  I've got twenty more years of this.

• 53:45Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's why you put a ball and chain on them, right?

• 53:49Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my goodness. I'm telling you.

• 53:51Speaker 02

  I think that that, going back to your question with the kids, when I first met him,

• 54:00Speaker 02

  you know, I was still, I was still grieving my husband. And that was one of the first things that I said to him on our very first phone call was, I don't know how you're doing this publicly.

• 54:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 54:15Speaker 02

  And now with everything that we've just gone through with my grandson,

• 54:26Speaker 02

  to have to do that so publicly was so hard.

• 54:37Speaker 02

  My son and my daughter-in-law are divorced, but my daughter-in-law is my daughter. I love her so much.

• 54:46Speaker 02

  And she was waiting for my grandson to come home and he never came home.

• 54:51Speaker 01

  He was supposed to fly back the next morning.

• 54:54Speaker 02

  To have all of that spread all over the internet, the way that it was, was the most horrific thing that I have ever gone through in my life. I couldn't protect them. I couldn't protect, I couldn't stop what was being said, which was so many lies. TMZ came out with it four hours after we even just found out. We didn't even know what happened yet.

• 55:25Bunnie XO?

  It's so invasive and disgusting.

• 55:27Speaker 02

  It is. I truly believe there's a special place in hell for all of these people who do this. You're talking about a child. We lost a child.

• 55:37Bunnie XO?

  A family.

• 55:38Speaker 02

  And we-

• 55:38Speaker 01

  Just turned 13, four days before that.

• 55:41Speaker 02

  We're devastated.

• 55:43Bunnie XO?

  What happened? Are we allowed to talk about it? Because I mean, it was so public. And I remember you guys were actually supposed to come on the pod.

• 55:49Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 55:49Bunnie XO?

  And then that had happened and I saw it and I was like, oh my God. And I reached out to you guys and I was like, I am so sorry. Like if you guys need us, we're here.

• 55:57Speaker 02

  I can't, I can talk about some things. I can't talk about everything, partly because I'm not ready.

• 56:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 56:06Speaker 02

  And partly because my son is struggling so much and the weight and what he carries, he will carry for the rest of his life.

• 56:20Speaker 01

  He's a good guy. Never been arrested, none of that, no record at all.

• 56:23Speaker 02

  He adores my grandson and my grandson adored him.

• 56:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:30Speaker 02

  And his gun went off and-

• 56:36Speaker 01

  There's some special Glock. I don't-

• 56:38Speaker 02

  There, it was a horrible, horrible accident and my son will feel responsible for the rest of his life.

• 56:45Bunnie XO?

  Oh my gosh.

• 56:47Speaker 02

  And I can't even imagine carrying what he's carrying.

• 56:52Bunnie XO?

  I'm so sorry.

• 56:52Speaker 02

  And knowing what I'm carrying in the midst of all of that, what my daughter-in-law is going through and the fact that the media just did what they did to us.

• 57:03Bunnie XO?

  It's, it's inhumane, what they do to people.

• 57:06Speaker 02

  Absolutely makes me sick. It makes me sick.

• 57:11Speaker 02

  And the A, the, they took pictures of me off of my Instagram and did AI voiceovers and said all, and was putting it all over TikTok and saying all of this horrible stuff that, like, it looked like I was saying about my son and about dog. And it's disgusting. We lost a child.

• 57:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. The world loves a circus. It's like they, you can't control it. And I think that, you know, going back to the question that we were talking about is like, when you guys are in the public eye, as much, as long as you've been, and now that you're married to him, you are part of his circus, how do you guys, I, I deal with it also, so I get it. How do you guys navigate something so traumatic and the things that you guys have been through with your families privately, after it's already just been exploited online?

• 58:09Speaker 02

  Um, it rocked my whole world. It was very difficult for me, even when I first stepped into his life. I, I had, we had to shut my social media down at the beginning when we were first together for like six months, because I was getting death threats.

• 58:30Bunnie XO?

  When you guys first got together. Let's fast forward to there. Let's talk about this and then we'll go back to, we'll, we'll talk about Beth. But, you know, you guys got together out, kind of briefly, from what anybody could see online, was that you guys had got together kind of briefly after Beth had passed. How did you guys meet? How did this relationship unfold? And, you know, take me on that journey with you guys.

• 58:56Speaker 02

  My husband had passed away from cancer, six months prior, it was about eight months, but anyway, prior to Beth. And we lived on a ranch. We had an excavating company and we plowed snow. And so, dog's next door neighbor.

• 59:16Speaker 02

  My husband did all the work in the area that that he lived in and his next door neighbor was a client. And so when he came to Colorado to do Beth's funeral, they hadn't been at the house for a long time because Beth was sick. And so the driveway was a wreck and from the snow and the wash out and everything. And so his neighbor said, Oh, you have to call Bob Frain because he's the best and he does everybody's stuff. So he had left a message on Bob's phone.

• 59:54Speaker 02

  And now, like, I'm eight, almost a year in to Bob going home, and I just really wasn't calling people back anymore. And there were, oh, Anthony had Bob's phone that day, and it was on the couch. And I saw that there was messages on it. And so I erased the first couple. I didn't listen to them. And when I went to go erase the the last message, it start playing out loud on the speaker. And I half listening to what the guy is saying, and I hear him say what I think is, this is Doug,

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  and I'm looking for Bob. And but I'm trying to erase the message and stop it from playing, and it won't.

• 1:00:48Speaker 01

  Let me say this. So she was at a Holy Ghost hoedown, and Paige, your best friend, said, go like that.

• 1:00:57Speaker 02

  So she had, it's called a prophecy. And so she had come to me and said, like, I really feel like God's God was, I had this dream. And I feel like it's God's telling me that I'm supposed to tell you, but I really didn't want to hear it because I was grieving so much. And she's like, I really feel like you're gonna meet Dog the Bounty Hunter, and God's gonna use you guys to change lives and do all these amazing things. And I was like, sure, okay.

• 1:01:32Speaker 02

  And so

• 1:01:32Speaker 01

  She'd never heard of me.

• 1:01:34Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:01:34Speaker 01

  They don't watch reality.

• 1:01:36Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so you never, you didn't know who Dog the Bounty Home was at all?

• 1:01:39Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:01:39Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:01:40Speaker 02

  I never watched the show.

• 1:01:41Bunnie XO?

  That's crazy.

• 1:01:42Speaker 02

  And I had, I didn't even, I didn't know who he was. And so

• 1:01:48Speaker 02

  sorry, baby.

• 1:01:50Bunnie XO?

  It's all right. I wasn't a fan of my husband. Whenever I met him, I didn't know who he was either. Never. I still don't listen to his music.

• 1:01:58Bunnie XO?

  It's a good thing.

• 1:01:59Speaker 01

  We'll cut that out.

• 1:01:59Speaker 02

  I think it's a good

• 1:02:00Bunnie XO?

  No, we leave it in. I talk about it all the time. He talks about it.

• 1:02:04Speaker 02

  I think it's a good thing.

• 1:02:05Bunnie XO?

  It is a good thing.

• 1:02:06Speaker 01

  So she held up, she holds up the picture of Beth. Beth just died. And she's like,

• 1:02:11Speaker 02

  Oh, my girlfriend, she pulls up a picture of Dog and Beth from Google. And she holds it right up to my face and she's like, this is Dog. You have to know who he is. He's from Colorado. Like, he's a huge hero, even just in Colorado. And so I'm like, yeah, no. I have no idea who that dude is and he needs a frickin haircut.

• 1:02:34Bunnie XO?

  Still doesn't have a haircut.

• 1:02:35Speaker 02

  I know. I love it now. I never said you were a long hair freak.

• 1:02:39Speaker 01

  But you meant that in your redneck mind.

• 1:02:43Speaker 02

  Stop it.

• 1:02:44Speaker 01

  Lord.

• 1:02:45Speaker 02

  I did not.

• 1:02:47Speaker 01

  So back to the phone call.

• 1:02:49Speaker 02

  He's

• 1:02:49Bunnie XO?

  He's like, let me hear about me. Enough about you. Let's talk about me.

• 1:02:52Speaker 01

  Come on, come on. D O G. One G, not double. That's new.

• 1:02:57Speaker 02

  That's right. So I'm listening, trying to erase this message that won't stop playing. And I hear the guy say that Carlos is my next door neighbor. And so I was like, oh shit, you know, Carlos doesn't know that Bob died. And I should call back just, even just to let the guy know that, you know, I'm sorry, Bob died. And so I call back the number from Bob's phone. And I hear this, hello.

• 1:03:28Speaker 02

  Shit. Is Doug, is Doug there? And he's like, who's this? I'm like, this is Francie and you left a message for Bob. Doug, I'm really sorry, but you know, Bob died a year ago of cancer and the guy starts bawling. And I'm like, who the crap is Doug and why is he crying over Bob? And all of a sudden I hear the guy take a deep breath and he says, "My name's not Doug, it's Dog, the bounty hunter."

• 1:04:01Speaker 01

  No way. And there was a long pause, which there is a lot of times if I go, number one, a lot of people even to go stuff, is who is it for Doug? Yeah, that's me. So, uh, she's, I thought she hung up.

• 1:04:16Speaker 02

  Oh, when I, yeah, well, because I said, it's Dog, the bounty hunter.

• 1:04:21Bunnie XO?

  Did it take your breath away because of what your friend had told you?

• 1:04:23Speaker 02

  Yes. Yeah. Like, everything she said to me is like flashing in my mind in like three seconds. And I'm just like, what's going on right now? And so he had just done Beth's funeral. He was in a really, really bad way. And so we had like a two hour conversation and that was one of the first things that I said to him was, I have no, with what, the amount of grieving that I have been through, everything that I have been through in my life, all the things that I've gone through and everything that I have done, nothing can compare to this. And I don't know how you did that publicly. And he said, I had to because it's what, it's what Beth wanted.

• 1:05:10Speaker 02

  She didn't want people to forget. She did, she wanted, you know, everybody to know the story and what, you know? And so. Um, we talked for a really long time and, and he asked me, he said, all my friends have been having their friends who have lost spouses call me, but there's something about you that's, that's your things that you're saying and something about what you're saying and how you're saying it is different than anybody else I've talked to. And do you think I could call you back? And so I said, yes. And we

• 1:05:44Bunnie XO?

  You didn't even know what she looked like and you were flirting with her over the phone?

• 1:05:47Speaker 01

  No, I was not flirting.

• 1:05:49Speaker 02

  No, he was not that.

• 1:05:50Speaker 01

  My mom's dead.

• 1:05:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:53Speaker 01

  Okay. My sister, how can you call your sister? She's a good Christian too. The other one passed. But

• 1:06:00Bunnie XO?

  So you were looking at her like a shoulder to lean on?

• 1:06:02Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:06:02Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:06:03Speaker 01

  Yes. A woman. Yes. No men. I don't like guys hardly.

• 1:06:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:08Speaker 01

  No, I don't.

• 1:06:08Bunnie XO?

  I get it. I don't like them either.

• 1:06:10Speaker 01

  They're in a gang or some crap.

• 1:06:12Bunnie XO?

  Got it.

• 1:06:12Speaker 01

  Or they're your husband.

• 1:06:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:06:16Speaker 02

  So, you know, of course, the, the first phone call after I get off the phone with him is to the friend. And I said to her, are you sitting down right now? And so she's like, oh my gosh, what's happening? And I was like, I just got off the phone with Dog the Bounty Hunter. She was screaming and having a meltdown.

• 1:06:37Bunnie XO?

  What a best friend moment though.

• 1:06:39Speaker 02

  And yes. So it was a year almost before we spoke again.

• 1:06:44Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:06:45Speaker 02

  Um, he had, you had the blood clot and you were in the hospital.

• 1:06:50Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 1:06:51Speaker 02

  And you were going through a bunch of stuff with the kids. And, you know, you ended up staying in Colorado.

• 1:06:59Bunnie XO?

  So you didn't move on that quickly?

• 1:07:01Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:07:02Bunnie XO?

  After Beth's death?

• 1:07:03Speaker 02

  No, everybody says that, but it was

• 1:07:07Bunnie XO?

  Just public fodder.

• 1:07:08Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:07:09Speaker 01

  Two years. We got married two years later. And like everybody, what I said on internet, you know, that's why she took away all my passwords, every internet thing I

• 1:07:19Speaker 02

  Well, because you're threatening everybody.

• 1:07:22Bunnie XO?

  Who took away the passwords?

• 1:07:24Speaker 02

  I did.

• 1:07:24Bunnie XO?

  Ah, good for you.

• 1:07:25Speaker 01

  I still don't have any of them. Cause I always, you know, I'm at the age where your mama said, you know, one, well, uh, you should have waited longer because you could have had kids. I said, listen, I'd have been your daddy, but the line was too long.

• 1:07:38Speaker 02

  Stop it. That is terrible.

• 1:07:41Speaker 01

  So.

• 1:07:42Speaker 02

  Stop it.

• 1:07:43Speaker 01

  Brother, help me out over there.

• 1:07:44Bunnie XO?

  I love the feistiness and dog. I'm an Aquarius, so I get it, you know, like I totally 100% relate.

• 1:07:50Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh, when we go places, that's why we were, when we were talking earlier and I gave him permission to, but normally when we go places, I'm in the front row going, oh.

• 1:08:01Bunnie XO?

  I just pray. So you're like the calm to his storm.

• 1:08:04Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:08:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:04Speaker 01

  Oh no, there's some stormy rain coming too.

• 1:08:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:09Bunnie XO?

  But it seems like you guys feed off of each other in a loving and healthy way.

• 1:08:13Speaker 02

  We do.

• 1:08:14Bunnie XO?

  Cause sometimes when two storms come together, it can create a bigger storm and you guys seem like you guys both know when to lean on the other.

• 1:08:22Speaker 01

  Well, I'm the thunder, she's the lightning.

• 1:08:24Bunnie XO?

  Ah, I love that.

• 1:08:27Bunnie XO?

  I love that so much.

• 1:08:28Speaker 01

  Jesus said, I through God, I saw Satan, uh.

• 1:08:33Speaker 02

  Fall from heaven.

• 1:08:33Speaker 01

  Fall from heaven.

• 1:08:34Speaker 02

  Like lightning.

• 1:08:35Speaker 01

  So I wonder if he's all burned up and looks like cocker instead of some handsome guy.

• 1:08:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, he's just a crispy dude.

• 1:08:42Speaker 02

  That's so funny.

• 1:08:43Bunnie XO?

  Since you guys have lost love and, you know, been through so much loss in your life, what does love look like now that you're both rebuilding together?

• 1:08:51Speaker 01

  Oh. Who's that I see walking in my woods? Ow, it's a red.

• 1:09:01Speaker 02

  I think that we are very, and we don't take, we definitely don't take things for granted.

• 1:09:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:10Speaker 02

  We don't take each other for granted. We don't take what we have for granted because we have witnessed firsthand what it's like to have it ripped from you. And we, we both are so passionate about because of what we've been through.

• 1:09:35Speaker 02

  The drugs and the, I was molested by my brother, all of my growing up. And that threw me into the drug life in Miami and I married my, my drug dealer.

• 1:09:47Bunnie XO?

  Miami is no joke either.

• 1:09:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, I married my drug dealer.

• 1:09:50Speaker 01

  Now, how much drugs, what kind you sell, ounces of coke or what?

• 1:09:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I was, I did a lot of drugs.

• 1:09:55Speaker 01

  Well, what kind, what did you sell?

• 1:09:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, same, kilos, ounces, same.

• 1:10:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, same.

• 1:10:01Speaker 02

  So now with everything that, that we've been through and what we've lost.

• 1:10:13Speaker 02

  We know that we wanna spend every moment loving each other that we can, that we have together. And we wanna do everything that we can to change as many lives for the good as we can while we're here. Because of everything that we've lost.

• 1:10:32Bunnie XO?

  I love that. You guys are super cute though. I love the energy you guys have between you two.

• 1:10:37Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:10:37Bunnie XO?

  So let's rewind just a little bit and we're just gonna touch on Beth and then I will let you guys out of here. We'll do a closing, but how did her illness and passing change the way that you love and, and that you forgive?

• 1:10:49Speaker 01

  Well, I believe, you know, that the Bible says that

• 1:10:55Speaker 01

  the hardest member of the body is the tongue and a lot of men think it's another member of the body. So it's like Tony Robbins and all them, what you say you become. Well, that's way back, you know, when, when the Bible was written and what you say. So I kept tell, I kept expecting a miracle, okay? And so one day, right before she passed, she called me, we were in Colorado. But she passed in Hawaii. She wanted to get out of Colorado, go home. And so, uh, she called me in the room, she goes, okay. I know that you're gonna get remarried, cuz I told her I never would. I did not think I was going to. That was it.

• 1:11:34Speaker 02

  I said, I said the same thing too. Yeah, I never thought I would either.

• 1:11:38Speaker 01

  And so she goes, uh, you've been called to the ministry. And she was thinking in a church preaching, it's not that, it's the ministry, right, to everybody I meet. And so I even wear this right here, and so does Francie, that, you know, just in case, okay, that some, you know, I'm not handsome handsome, but I'm Dog the Bounty Hunter. I've had the National Enquirer, you know, girls come up to me in Vegas, all that, hey, baby, KFO, so, and then I go, listen, you tell the National Enquirer that I said eh eh. And then she went, here, they, how did you know? And I go, it's all right. It's not your fault. So, uh.

• 1:12:17Speaker 02

  That's not the question. Go back to the question.

• 1:12:20Bunnie XO?

  It's okay. I love hearing him talk. I could listen to him talk forever.

• 1:12:23Speaker 01

  We're gonna hurry, so I had to say some.

• 1:12:24Bunnie XO?

  No, you're not in a hurry at all.

• 1:12:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. So, uh, then she said, I know you're gonna get remarried, but here's a list of 10 people that you better not marry. And she said, don't let me die in vain. I'll never forget this. You're not gonna die. She's like, face it. Yes, I am. And she said, and she was really bad. She was like down to 107 pounds. And so, uh.

• 1:12:53Speaker 02

  You know, you guys were the dynamic duo back then.

• 1:12:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:57Speaker 02

  Look at what you created with her and Dog the Bounty Hunter.

• 1:13:01Bunnie XO?

  Do you feel like you guys were more of like best friends instead of like soulmates?

• 1:13:05Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:13:06Bunnie XO?

  That built something together?

• 1:13:07Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:13:07Bunnie XO?

  Consider her a soulmate?

• 1:13:08Speaker 01

  She didn't have, uh, too many friends.

• 1:13:13Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 1:13:13Speaker 01

  Okay. She was, she was a handful.

• 1:13:17Bunnie XO?

  She was tough, yeah.

• 1:13:18Speaker 01

  Yes, yes.

• 1:13:20Bunnie XO?

  And she showed that on the show. She didn't hide it.

• 1:13:23Speaker 01

  No. And so, uh, you know, I loved her very much. And then when she passed away, you know, right before I called her and after I called her, I was in Colorado, we had a back, uh, lanai, a deck, and I was screaming, right? Beth, you said you F and B. You told me you would never leave me. I was gonna go first, right? And I was devastated, right? I even had a dream one night when she didn't like flowers when I took her to Hawaii. Then she loved them, right? She didn't like sand either, and then she loved it. And so she was watering these flowers. I went up. In heaven, I snuck up behind her. I always had to go like that. She's like, anyone sneaking up.

• 1:14:05Speaker 01

  So hello, and she turned around with the water like, oh, big daddy. It took you long enough to get here. Where were you? And uh,

• 1:14:13Speaker 02

  That was a dream you had, right?

• 1:14:15Speaker 01

  Yeah. And so I thought, all right, I'm gonna go ahead and take a hot shot. Because I'll go to heaven. She's waiting on me, right? I mean, I loved her very, very much, you know, the last few years. I loved her.

• 1:14:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:28Speaker 01

  And uh,

• 1:14:31Speaker 01

  and then she died, you know, it was uh, one of the most, besides losing my mom and my my first daughter, you know, it was

• 1:14:41Speaker 02

  Devastating.

• 1:14:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was devastating.

• 1:14:45Speaker 02

  You don't ever think that you're gonna recover.

• 1:14:48Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 1:14:49Speaker 02

  The weight of

• 1:14:49Bunnie XO?

  I couldn't imagine.

• 1:14:50Speaker 02

  The weight of the grief is so intense. Um, that you don't think that you're gonna recover. You, you can't, you can't even see past your own hand in front of you and you, you just don't even know how life is going to ever go on. And that was a big part of when we first got together, what what people were so mad at him about is because he said publicly on TV that he was never gonna get married again. And so people

• 1:15:22Bunnie XO?

  And they will hold you to the cross.

• 1:15:24Speaker 02

  People were so angry.

• 1:15:25Speaker 01

  I told your mom again.

• 1:15:28Speaker 02

  And

• 1:15:29Bunnie XO?

  What do you wish people understood about rebuilding after loss?

• 1:15:33Speaker 01

  Well, the Bible says when a spouse dies, that you're open. I don't, I knew one guy saw me one day. I had this old houseboat and I was being her, my son, Greg, was unloading it and this old man came up to me and said, listen, I see what they're doing to you. I got married one week after my wife died. I was married forty-six years.

• 1:15:57Speaker 02

  He couldn't be alone.

• 1:15:58Speaker 01

  And he said, she said,

• 1:16:00Speaker 02

  He couldn't handle it.

• 1:16:00Speaker 01

  When he said, I'll never get married. Uh, you know, he was probably my age and she said, honey, if you don't get married right away, and I've picked my best friend for you to marry. That you never loved me. You didn't like a wife. You didn't want to help her. And he goes, by God, dog, I asked her to marry me and she said, I do. And I've been married to her now for three happy years. So there was good things coming my way and you know, how could you do this? You're going to hell because Beth, you know, she's looks exactly like Beth. Her hair is like that. I'm like, Beth had chumongas like out here.

• 1:16:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:41Speaker 01

  And they were real and she had bleached blonde hair. Now, you know, I mean, Francie's got chumongas too, but her hair is not bleached blonde.

• 1:16:51Bunnie XO?

  No, you can clearly tell the difference between them. They don't look alike.

• 1:16:56Speaker 01

  Beth's five, three, five, four, and she's five, nine, five, 10.

• 1:16:59Bunnie XO?

  What's wrong with a man that has preference though? If you like blondes, you like blondes.

• 1:17:03Speaker 02

  Yes. What's, what's wrong with that? I, I get so much stuff about how I'm trying to be like Beth and look like Beth. I've always been blonde.

• 1:17:14Bunnie XO?

  I think you definitely have a more calmer spirit than Beth. Um, I've never met Beth, didn't get to know her or anything like that. But just from what I've seen on TV of how she presented herself, you're very, you're a lot calmer.

• 1:17:25Speaker 01

  Oh, she's a firecracker. Let me tell you.

• 1:17:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. It was, you know, it was the best show, uh, the best show. And she would sing that to me. Oh, it ain't about the family. It's the best show. I'd say, shut up. It's called Dog, the bounty, not, not Beth, the bounty. Well, the next show we're going to get is Dog and Beth on the hunt. All right. We get.

• 1:17:46Bunnie XO?

  I wa, I, I watched you guys religiously. My girlfriends and I, we would, we were strippers in Vegas and we would get off at like six o'clock in the morning and we would go home, make breakfast and literally just fall asleep watching Dog on air. We were both in love, we were all in love with Leland.

• 1:17:59Speaker 02

  That's awesome.

• 1:18:00Bunnie XO?

  We were all going to hook up with Leland. We didn't care.

• 1:18:02Speaker 01

  They still do.

• 1:18:03Bunnie XO?

  Ah, yeah. Well, I know Jamie, so I think him and Jamie are adorable.

• 1:18:06Speaker 02

  Yes. We love Jamie.

• 1:18:09Speaker 01

  Well, and my youngest son.

• 1:18:10Speaker 02

  Let me tell you, I, I have to say, out of all the girls in the family, Jamie and Cecily are definitely the family protectors.

• 1:18:20Bunnie XO?

  Aww.

• 1:18:20Speaker 02

  And we're dealing with somebody right now and Jamie just.

• 1:18:27Speaker 02

  She will not, she is like, I am not quitting. This sucker is not talking about my family. We love Jamie.

• 1:18:35Speaker 01

  We had these two guys that, you know, sued us, everything. I went on, uh, what was it? Inside Edition. And that guy burned me, came to my house as my friend. And now they're both once in prison right now. They owed one, one million, nine hundred and ninety-nine thousand dollars to different creditors, a billion dollars. They finally caught him and now they're gone. So these guys ruined two TV shows for me.

• 1:19:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:05Speaker 01

  That were coming back.

• 1:19:06Bunnie XO?

  Who are these people?

• 1:19:07Speaker 01

  Lies.

• 1:19:08Bunnie XO?

  Who were these people to you?

• 1:19:10Speaker 02

  They were, they were friends.

• 1:19:14Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:19:15Speaker 02

  And.

• 1:19:16Bunnie XO?

  Just con artists?

• 1:19:17Speaker 02

  Yes, that's what they were.

• 1:19:18Speaker 01

  What do you call it when someone dies and you're really, uh, you know, you're mourning? And then somebody pops up and says, oh, I paid for Beth's funeral. Eighty-six grand. I saw the black preacher later, later, because I had it in a black church. And he goes, Doug, we did it for you. You know?

• 1:19:34Speaker 02

  For free.

• 1:19:35Speaker 01

  What do they, what do they call that when you're mourning?

• 1:19:37Speaker 02

  They're just con artists.

• 1:19:39Bunnie XO?

  Just succubuses.

• 1:19:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, I call them.

• 1:19:41Speaker 02

  They're, they're just con artists. And they were, they were friends with you and Beth prior to, and they just.

• 1:19:50Bunnie XO?

  You gotta be careful with who you let close to you, especially in this day and age.

• 1:19:53Speaker 02

  It's so true.

• 1:19:55Speaker 01

  And to be me, I mean, to my kids and all that. So Gary Boyd, the little blonde is now a police officer in Alabama.

• 1:20:02Bunnie XO?

  I've, I've seen the headlines.

• 1:20:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. And so, uh.

• 1:20:05Speaker 02

  Be careful.

• 1:20:06Speaker 01

  I am. And so he's, I can't say much about it, but he is a pure cop.

• 1:20:12Speaker 02

  He is such a good guy and such a good cop.

• 1:20:16Speaker 01

  He just got married to a great nurse. There, there, well, she's going to graduate in March. And, you know, he, the, the blue code, I mean, you don't, you don't, you back up, you know, you don't leave any man there.

• 1:20:30Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:20:30Speaker 01

  You back up. So the mayor, the police chief, they left my son out there. And then they reversed the decision, or the mayor's.

• 1:20:39Speaker 02

  City council did.

• 1:20:40Speaker 01

  City council reversed the decision. And now they got him, you know, working back there, but he can't be on the streets or nothing.

• 1:20:47Bunnie XO?

  Well, it was a car accident.

• 1:20:49Speaker 02

  Well, Gary didn't cause the car accident.

• 1:20:53Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:20:54Speaker 02

  There was a guy that was high that he tried to pull over and the guy pulled away and ran. And Gary was almost, he was 10 car lengths behind the guy. He wasn't even up on him, pushing him through traffic and the light and all those things. He was that far behind him and the guy ran through the light and he hit a van or a SUV. And there were four teenagers in the car. One of them was killed, which was devastating for everyone. And for Gary too, he was devastated that that happened and it wasn't his fault. And

• 1:21:37Speaker 02

  that's, that's all we can say about that.

• 1:21:39Speaker 01

  Imagine him his whole life. He wanted to be a bounty hunter at three or four years old. Tried to sneak in, have you ever seen that show, In My Boot? I want to be a bounty hunter dad at four now. I can do it. I know. And he's big. Her dad was, is in the baseball hall of fame. Six, four, 300 pounds of muscle.

• 1:21:58Speaker 02

  That's dad.

• 1:21:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's dad. And Gary boy is built like her dad. Only he's six, two. But I tell him, you know, look what I went through. Way before you were born, Gary, you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth. You have no idea how many times they took away my bail license, how many times they did this. I've been in jail for kidnapping because they said I couldn't do it till I saw the judge. Just keep praying, just keep going. Don't worry. Got his job back. Now I want him in another department, but he's got a lot of stuff to do there. But, uh, you know, me going through that kind of stuff I went through helps the kids, right?

• 1:22:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, because I see that you've gone through so much turmoil and came out on the other side each time. And that's probably what the situation is going to.

• 1:22:47Speaker 01

  Even with my Greg, you know, I lost my Barbara Katie, my firstborn daughter.

• 1:22:51Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:22:52Speaker 01

  The day before I married Beth. I was so high to get through that wedding. Oh.

• 1:22:56Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 1:22:57Speaker 01

  Valiums, halcyons. I mean, I was not going to do it.

• 1:23:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:00Speaker 01

  And A and E said, come on, you know.

• 1:23:03Bunnie XO?

  So you lost your daughter right before you married Beth?

• 1:23:07Speaker 02

  The day before.

• 1:23:08Bunnie XO?

  So you really haven't ever given yourself time to just grieve.

• 1:23:11Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, I did. Every time I would say her name. Or my mom's, I'd cry. And she prayed with me twice. And uh,

• 1:23:20Bunnie XO?

  Look, it's trauma, baby.

• 1:23:21Speaker 01

  There's a time to grieve and trauma.

• 1:23:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:24Speaker 01

  And we all have an appointment, okay?

• 1:23:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:28Speaker 01

  Whether you're two or a hundred and two.

• 1:23:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:31Speaker 01

  It is appointed on, for us. And the Bible says there's a time for mourning, but it's not forever.

• 1:23:38Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:23:39Speaker 01

  You know, I know guys and girls, I know a lot of people that go, once a month, birthday, a holiday, the day they were married, the day they died, to the grave site.

• 1:23:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:50Speaker 01

  They're not there. You know, I had a guy call me and say, you know, my daughter was riding shotgun, and the guy flipped the car over and this guy called me, I was walking around my pool in Hawaii, and he goes, I saw the guy that died too. And let me tell you something, he was sucking for air and it took him, and I go, stop, right now. No matter what you say, it's not gonna bring Barbara Katie back.

• 1:24:14Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:24:15Speaker 01

  And just like the death penalty. You know, the guy's fried, or now lethal injection, and all that. And I talked to a lady the other day, a couple of years ago, she said, yeah, the guy, I was there, I watched him take his last breath. And the next day I went to visit my daughter's grave, and nothing changed, dog.

• 1:24:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:35Speaker 01

  So uh,

• 1:24:36Bunnie XO?

  I get that, I understand that.

• 1:24:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:37Bunnie XO?

  And your generation doesn't like to feel things either, so you guys just keep on trucking. But I do kinda wanna go back to something you just said. You were high when you married Beth. Does that mean that you were in your addiction whenever you were filming Dog the Bounty?

• 1:24:50Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 1:24:51Bunnie XO?

  Okay, cuz I wanna clarify that, cuz I know people would probably hear that.

• 1:24:54Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:24:55Bunnie XO?

  So let's, yeah, of course.

• 1:24:56Speaker 02

  So, no, he,

• 1:24:58Speaker 01

  I could, I couldn't do it.

• 1:25:00Speaker 02

  He was,

• 1:25:01Speaker 01

  My pastor and Beth had some pills, or he okayed them, and she gave me some pills to get me through it, right?

• 1:25:09Bunnie XO?

  To calm you down. Okay, got you, got you.

• 1:25:11Speaker 01

  After the wedding dance and all that. And then that was it, you know?

• 1:25:16Bunnie XO?

  I mean, you were grieving your daughter, so of course, I would need a Xanax or something if I was going through something like that.

• 1:25:21Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:25:22Bunnie XO?

  But like, what a, what a shadow to cast on the beginning of a marriage also, you know? To have to go into a marriage with that heavy of a heart. I, it's just, you're, you're a tough cookie.

• 1:25:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, and she, and Beth, I'm thinking about her grandmother, who she's named after, but she wasn't tight with her, Elizabeth.

• 1:25:43Speaker 01

  Beth never lost her dad. She lost her dad.

• 1:25:48Speaker 01

  And but her mom passed after Beth passed. No brothers, sisters, none of them. So to fit, well, she was daddy's little girl, but to face death like we have done. Beth, I'm glad never had to go through that.

• 1:26:02Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:26:02Speaker 01

  Cause I don't know if Beth would have, you know, would have made it through. You know what I mean?

• 1:26:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. It's heavy. Death is heavy.

• 1:26:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, my mom was my favorite and my little boy, Gary boy, was sixteen. Yeah, when his mama passed, right? And he was a spoiled brat. She spoiled him so much out of all the kids. But yeah, now he's a.

• 1:26:27Speaker 02

  He's so amazing. We love, I love him so much. I'm so proud of him.

• 1:26:31Bunnie XO?

  I feel like you've done a good job with all your kids, even if they've had their own little quirks and stuff like that. They've all turned out pretty much for the good.

• 1:26:39Speaker 01

  Well, I met a guy that his son recorded him drunk eating a cheeseburger. Do you know who, remember who that was?

• 1:26:46Bunnie XO?

  Uh uh.

• 1:26:47Speaker 01

  And so I met him with Gene Simmons at a big gig.

• 1:26:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:51Speaker 01

  And he got me the side. He goes, you remember that? And I go, oh, man. He goes, it ruined my career.

• 1:26:55Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:26:56Speaker 01

  And I go, did it?

• 1:26:57Bunnie XO?

  I'll have to Google that. I don't know.

• 1:26:58Speaker 01

  And he said, uh, he said, well, he's doing a show right now in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Cause back then they, if you filmed there, it was free, no taxes and all that. And he said, don't worry. When they're young like that and they're raised, you know, in Hollywood, they are sellout rats.

• 1:27:18Bunnie XO?

  Oh, man.

• 1:27:19Speaker 02

  They're not all like that.

• 1:27:20Speaker 01

  But as they get older, you know, uh, they, they just mature and they become better. And well, you know.

• 1:27:29Bunnie XO?

  It's hard raising a kid in the spotlight. We're doing it right now.

• 1:27:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, it was, it was Mel Gibson. It wasn't, he don't care if I say it, but.

• 1:27:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no.

• 1:27:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, because it devastated.

• 1:27:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:40Speaker 01

  Big deal. He was drunk and eating a cheeseburger.

• 1:27:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:43Speaker 01

  Excuse me, I felt like saying.

• 1:27:46Speaker 01

  Well, you're not Jesus. I know one guy that never dialed the wrong number, never jaywalked. His name is Jesus Christ. So, you know, I

• 1:27:56Speaker 02

  Everybody else is

• 1:27:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's

• 1:27:59Speaker 02

  Well, I have to say that for, for me, as far as all, all of the kids go, uh, you know, there has been ups and downs and trying to find my way in a relationship with everybody. And they're all so different.

• 1:28:16Bunnie XO?

  That's probably gotta be hard on you too.

• 1:28:18Speaker 02

  It was tough.

• 1:28:19Bunnie XO?

  To navigate.

• 1:28:19Speaker 02

  And, um, I think the biggest turnaround was with Cecily. Cecily was so close with Beth and Beth was her best friend. She hated me and swore that we would never, she would never, ever have a relationship with me. And we just, um, both decided that we, we wanted a relationship and we made some steps towards each other and have made this huge turnaround and we have the most awesome relationship.

• 1:28:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, baby Lisa's the only one in Hawaii still.

• 1:28:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:29:00Speaker 01

  And my granddaughter Abby's in Colorado and then Madeline, she's born on TV, you know? She, uh, just got her driver's license and I want to tell, you know, it's so expensive over there in Hawaii and stuff. I keep telling Bay because she came and met, her and Madeline came and met Francie at an RV and B. We all stayed there and baby Lisa went on the porch and said, Dad, thank God you married this lady. I love her. And so they have their ups and downs. Baby Lisa's a stubborn little girl.

• 1:29:30Bunnie XO?

  Family though, you know, I think, yeah, nobody has a perfect family and it, we put the fun in dysfunction, you know? And it's like, whatever you guys can, whatever you guys can do to just create a safe, loving environment, those kids will come to you now, they'll be drawn to that naturally.

• 1:29:48Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:29:48Bunnie XO?

  You know, that's how it was with Bailey when we got custody of her when she was seven years old. She was so mad at us because we took her from her mom, uh, My husband's, uh, his first baby mother is an addict. She's deep in addiction still to this day. We've had Bailey custody of Bailey for 10 years now. Um, and you know, she was

• 1:30:07Speaker 02

  And she's beautiful.

• 1:30:08Bunnie XO?

  She's such a sweetheart and she's my best friend. I love her to death. She drives me up a wall, but I love her to death. And I just always knew that if I just was a steady, safe space for her, that one day she would love me, you know, and I didn't force my love on her. I didn't even force hugs on her. And now I can't get the kid to stop hugging me and like, and that's what you have to do.

• 1:30:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:30:28Speaker 01

  With the boys and the girls.

• 1:30:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you have to do that.

• 1:30:30Speaker 01

  And Jamie, Beth in there fought all the time. And I was afraid for Jamie to meet Francie. And Jamie loves her. She loves Jamie.

• 1:30:39Bunnie XO?

  Jamie's a good chick.

• 1:30:40Speaker 01

  Leland, only one time, uh, has Leland, you know, talked bad to me. And then even a year later, just the other day, like, I can't believe I did that, Dad. I said, it's all right. You know, I should have beat you like my dad did.

• 1:30:55Bunnie XO?

  Then maybe you wouldn't have talked to me like that. No, I'm just kidding. No, Jamie's a sweet chick. I used to talk to her a lot. We used to be, I, I'd like to say we were friends and I talked to her a lot and she's just a really good woman.

• 1:31:06Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:31:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, she is.

• 1:31:07Bunnie XO?

  Yes. Well, I've held you guys for so long. Let me ask you a couple last questions and then I'll get you guys out of here. But if you could erase everything people think they know about you and start fresh, what would you want the world to understand about Dog, the bounty hunter? And now Francie?

• 1:31:25Speaker 01

  Oh. Well, uh,

• 1:31:30Speaker 01

  you know, I think, you know, people say, well, we start it like this. People say, if your dad wouldn't have beat you, you wouldn't become the man that you are. And I say, I would have been the head of the FBI.

• 1:31:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:44Speaker 01

  And so

• 1:31:45Bunnie XO?

  You would have taken a different path.

• 1:31:46Speaker 01

  And Lord, please forgive me and don't let it happen ever again in Jesus's name. But the things I and Francie's been through made us.

• 1:31:58Speaker 01

  Dwayne Dogg. And how do you say it? Your friend?

• 1:32:04Speaker 02

  Francie.

• 1:32:05Speaker 01

  No, the other way. Francis Patrice.

• 1:32:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:32:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:08Speaker 01

  So that has made us both to who we are today. There's a few things that I wish, I shouldn't say I wish I could change because the Lord is like, "Oh, really? How about these beans?"

• 1:32:23Speaker 01

  So I think the God's plan, I finally, you know, it's like the guy that throws out that little round thing when they're swimming because they're drowning. I finally was just almost out of breath and I reached up and grabbed it and pulled myself up. At the side of the boat, I saw this freaking rancher with this great big smile on his face.

• 1:32:46Bunnie XO?

  Was it the great big smile that got you?

• 1:32:48Speaker 01

  Yes, it was. And you kept, she got such long fingers, she flips me the bird.

• 1:32:53Speaker 02

  Show her that. No.

• 1:32:55Speaker 01

  Show her.

• 1:32:55Speaker 02

  Stop it.

• 1:32:57Bunnie XO?

  Um, and lastly, what's one chapter that you haven't lived yet, but you know is coming?

• 1:33:05Speaker 02

  It's our next. Yeah. You can, you can say it.

• 1:33:08Speaker 01

  So we're, we're gonna, she's gonna, we both are gonna write bail again in Georgia.

• 1:33:13Bunnie XO?

  Yay.

• 1:33:14Speaker 01

  And we're gonna film it. And I have not as many as you and your husband have. But for Dogg Chapman, I got five million. That's a lot.

• 1:33:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:25Speaker 01

  So then you can go into everything, you know, YouTube where you can actually watch it on TV again and all that. It's not gonna be like the show, but we're going after the bad guy.

• 1:33:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:36Speaker 01

  Like I said, I'd like you two to go ride along with the girl.

• 1:33:39Bunnie XO?

  I'd love to.

• 1:33:39Speaker 01

  I'd like to ride along with you know who with a guy.

• 1:33:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:42Speaker 01

  I always wanted to do, uh, Hunting with the Celebrities, or no, Hunting with the Stars.

• 1:33:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:48Speaker 01

  Like Dancing with the Stars. And then, you know, that'll be just a portion of it.

• 1:33:53Speaker 02

  We wanna do, we wanna do it, do different things though.

• 1:33:58Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:33:58Speaker 02

  He's still gonna hunt and do that part.

• 1:34:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:02Speaker 02

  But we wanna do interventions.

• 1:34:04Speaker 01

  She's really, she's a licensed interventionist. She's really good at that.

• 1:34:07Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:34:08Speaker 01

  And just.

• 1:34:09Speaker 02

  And going, we've been going into the prisons and so we're gonna continue to do that. And so we just want to make it, we want, he's gonna film, but it's gonna be different. It's not gonna be like he was doing and he'll still be with Leland and he's got a couple of other guys that he's working with now.

• 1:34:26Bunnie XO?

  I would love to help you guys with whatever. We just started going to domestic violence relation, uh, domestic, I went through a domestic violence relationship, but we just started going to, to, uh, domestic violence shelters to talk to the women and help them. And I really want to start getting involved in more of that. And I have so many prisons that reach out and want me to come talk to the women there.

• 1:34:42Speaker 02

  That's what I do.

• 1:34:43Bunnie XO?

  So I would love to team up with you guys and help if you guys ever do it.

• 1:34:47Speaker 01

  That one girl that you're teamed up with?

• 1:34:50Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:34:50Speaker 01

  Oh, bro, you should see, uh, the, read her book and see what she looked like.

• 1:34:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:56Speaker 01

  It's, it's like that old speed commercial, here's Julie then, and here's Julie now.

• 1:35:02Speaker 02

  She's in, she's in the prison, the largest prison in Florida is in Ocala and it's called LOL.

• 1:35:10Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:35:10Speaker 02

  And so she is, um, I'm teaming up with her and we were, she's already been going into the prisons, but I'm gonna start going in to, uh, the Ocala prison with her, but we are doing that in Georgia also in the prisons and.

• 1:35:29Speaker 01

  We've been in a few together though.

• 1:35:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:31Speaker 02

  We've already been.

• 1:35:32Bunnie XO?

  Jay would love to go and do the men with you. Like he would love to do that.

• 1:35:35Speaker 01

  Biggest, uh, what is it called?

• 1:35:36Speaker 02

  We did, um.

• 1:35:38Speaker 01

  Mississippi, Missouri.

• 1:35:40Speaker 02

  Louisiana. We did the prison in Louisiana with Ben Fuller.

• 1:35:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:35:45Speaker 02

  And God Behind Bars.

• 1:35:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:35:47Speaker 02

  So we've been doing that and we were, we want to film that piece too and.

• 1:35:53Bunnie XO?

  You guys could get a show on like a streaming network.

• 1:35:55Speaker 01

  That's what we're exactly doing.

• 1:35:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:57Speaker 02

  We're gonna start filming it, filming ourselves.

• 1:36:00Bunnie XO?

  Netflix, Netflix, your name is big enough to go to Netflix to go to.

• 1:36:03Speaker 01

  What they'll do, okay, because of, uh, some guy that got a choke handle, choke and died, you can't even put a guy in headlock anymore.

• 1:36:10Bunnie XO?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:36:11Speaker 01

  So where the head goes, the body follows, right?

• 1:36:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:14Speaker 01

  And I got a throw down. I don't know if you've seen the shows, but I can still.

• 1:36:18Speaker 02

  She did.

• 1:36:18Speaker 01

  I can still knock a few out, right? So, uh, and I'm glad I couldn't be able to carry a gun.

• 1:36:23Bunnie XO?

  Jaime's a big fan, by the way.

• 1:36:25Speaker 01

  Oh, sorry. But I've been shot in the head, the leg. So it's a good thing I didn't carry a gun because I would be up more than 13 Billy the Kid, right?

• 1:36:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:34Speaker 01

  By the way, Billy the Kid was a bounty hunter too. One of the first ones.

• 1:36:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:36:40Speaker 01

  So, uh.

• 1:36:41Speaker 02

  We want to do it different.

• 1:36:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, for sure. Well, of course, because you also don't want to get the scrutiny of you guys trying

• 1:36:46Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:36:46Bunnie XO?

  emulate. So yeah, definitely do it your way. But again, who gives a fuck? As long as you guys are in love and you guys are.

• 1:36:54Speaker 02

  Oh, I could care less.

• 1:36:55Bunnie XO?

  Exactly. If you guys are doing, you guys have such good energy. I'm sitting, I've been sitting with you guys for the past two hours. Like, I just love how you guys are towards each other. You can tell when people love each other and when they don't, you know? And you guys really have just amazing energy together. I love how protective you are of him because he needs a protector.

• 1:37:12Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:37:12Bunnie XO?

  Because he's always been the protector.

• 1:37:14Speaker 02

  All my friends call me the gatekeeper.

• 1:37:16Bunnie XO?

  Ah.

• 1:37:17Speaker 01

  Whatever. All these frickin' ranchers and handsome truck drivers, frickin' tractor guys. We were first got together and I saw this guy looked like a banker, right? He was a rancher driving some big old truck, big old belt buckle. And he was like looking at her feet and then looking up and like that to himself. And I thought, you punk. So I walked over to her because she was buying something and I said, okay, honey. And I kissed her on the cheek, right? And she went and sat down and I walked over to him. I go, hey, you know who I am? He's like, yeah. I go, I'm gonna tell you something. Farmer. I'm not a farmer. I'm a rancher. I go, the same thing.

• 1:37:53Speaker 02

  It's not the same thing.

• 1:37:54Bunnie XO?

  No, people will come for you for that. Listen, that will divide the internet.

• 1:37:58Speaker 02

  That is not the same thing.

• 1:38:00Speaker 01

  I thought you were a farmer too. But I told him, listen, farmer.

• 1:38:04Speaker 02

  I have a John Deere tattoo.

• 1:38:05Bunnie XO?

  You guys need to start telling people you guys met on farmersonly.com.

• 1:38:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:38:08Bunnie XO?

  Just start that rumor.

• 1:38:09Speaker 02

  That's awesome. I love it.

• 1:38:11Speaker 01

  I went to Christian, uh, Christian.com. I really did.

• 1:38:16Bunnie XO?

  Christian Mingles.

• 1:38:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, Christian Mingles. Sure. Right.

• 1:38:20Speaker 02

  That's so funny.

• 1:38:22Bunnie XO?

  Are you a jealous? Are you a jealous man?

• 1:38:25Speaker 01

  The Bible says jealousy is as cruel as the grave.

• 1:38:28Speaker 02

  That's not the question she asked. Yes, he is.

• 1:38:32Bunnie XO?

  I love how he goes to Bible verses to deflect.

• 1:38:35Speaker 02

  That is not the question. Yes, he is.

• 1:38:37Speaker 01

  It's called spinning.

• 1:38:40Speaker 01

  I'm one of the best spinners you could ever know.

• 1:38:43Bunnie XO?

  Oh, it's all right. My husband does it. Trust me. Yes, he well, I told you that man can talk circles.

• 1:38:48Speaker 01

  What was the question you asked?

• 1:38:50Bunnie XO?

  I said, are you a jealous man?

• 1:38:52Speaker 01

  Uh, Barry.

• 1:38:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:53Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:38:54Bunnie XO?

  Passionate.

• 1:38:55Speaker 01

  You both.

• 1:38:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:56Speaker 01

  All three.

• 1:38:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:58Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:38:58Bunnie XO?

  I love that, though. I love you.

• 1:39:01Speaker 01

  I one time I, you know, sometimes.

• 1:39:06Speaker 01

  What was it? So some guy said, uh, yeah, man, I seen that fine ass woman that you got, man. She is long legged, lanky, ooh la la. I go, oh, is that right? So I looked like that, right? Wham! I hit him right down. He went right. And then I stood there. I had some water. Told this girl, bring me some water. And the girls, what he she was jogging. What happened? I go, I don't know. So he woke up and he goes, man.

• 1:39:32Bunnie XO?

  He said, I don't know.

• 1:39:33Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 1:39:34Speaker 01

  He said, what happened? I said, I don't know. You were saying something about my wife. And some guy ran by here and busted you right in the mouth. What color was he?

• 1:39:44Bunnie XO?

  This is all allegedly, right? This is allegedly.

• 1:39:47Speaker 01

  What color was he? Cause he's still trying to come out of it, right? I go, I don't know. It was like that fire guy. Shoo, boom, shoo. He was gone so quick. Man, hell, are you okay, dog? I said, yeah, you need help to your car? No, I'm fine. I took off quick. I hope you don't call the law, right?

• 1:40:03Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:40:03Speaker 01

  Yes, very, very. And I don't, God is a jealous God. Oh, there I go. Thank you, Lord. The Bible says, I am a jealous God.

• 1:40:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:11Speaker 01

  You know, it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of a living God.

• 1:40:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:17Speaker 01

  So he's jealous too. He's he don't want us going off with Satan.

• 1:40:21Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:40:21Speaker 01

  He gets jealous. I set my only son, who I begot to die for you. And what if it's not true? You know, I met an atheist. I'll tell you a joke when we close. I met an atheist and, uh, the Bible says there's no such thing that we all have a conscience and we all believe. So here's the joke. So.

• 1:40:43Speaker 02

  Oh, I have to use the restroom. I'll pass on.

• 1:40:48Speaker 01

  So there was this great white, great white hunter named Buana. And so Buana was out hunting by himself and Buana was an atheist, okay? And so Buana means great white hunter, okay? So all of a sudden, he was in Alaska and he saw this big grizzly stand up. And it was right before they hibernate, so they're starving, right? And they're like above seven feet, even eight feet tall when they put, when they're stand up grizzly. They're one of the most violent bears there is.

• 1:41:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:25Speaker 01

  You can't outrun them. So he took off running, threw his rifle, took out running. And he tried to keep, every time he got, kept turning around, kept turning around, the bear got closer. Grunting, right? They're like bulldogs, they're not tired, they just grunt.

• 1:41:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:42Speaker 01

  And so finally got him and he got on top of him and he took his thing, his big paw. Cause one swipe would take your head off, right? And so all of a sudden time froze and he heard the voice of God. No, he goes, oh my God, then time froze. And so God said, hey, you don't believe in me. Why did you say, just for the bear is gonna kill you? Oh my God, if you don't believe in me. And he goes, well, I don't know. He goes, well, listen, do you believe in me now that you hear the voice? And he goes, maybe it's just because I'm freaked out.

• 1:42:24Speaker 01

  And maybe, uh, maybe I still don't believe it's you. And he said, so let me ask you this, God. Uh, you make the bear a Christian that believes in you. And we'll see what happens. So poof, the bear draws his paw back. The guy's like, wow, right? And the bear is like sitting down on this thing. He looks at the guy and he goes, dear Lord, thank you for this food and bless it to my body. In Jesus's name, amen. As he began to eat the guy.

• 1:43:00Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no.

• 1:43:00Speaker 01

  So there's no such a thing as an atheist, right? So as long as there's a God, we'll be fighting the devil.

• 1:43:08Bunnie XO?

  Always.

• 1:43:09Speaker 01

  We're after the devil's herd.

• 1:43:10Bunnie XO?

  Oh, dog, thank you so much for being here.

• 1:43:14Speaker 01

  Oh, thank you. Stop it.

• 1:43:15Bunnie XO?

  You and Francie are just gems. I adore you guys so much and I hope you guys come and visit me more. But I want to go, I want to come see you guys too.

• 1:43:24Speaker 01

  Yes, and let's do the, the mutiny on the bounty where you ladies. And the prisons.

• 1:43:30Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:43:31Speaker 01

  You got each other's phone number, right?

• 1:43:33Bunnie XO?

  I would love to. I would, yeah, I would love to, love to.

• 1:43:38Speaker 01

  And then my friend wants your husband January 20th in Vegas. He owns, you know, those little red knives, what were they called?

• 1:43:46Bunnie XO?

  It's the guy who owns Swiss Army. Okay.

• 1:43:48Speaker 01

  And he's a really good Jewish guy.

• 1:43:50Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:43:51Speaker 01

  And when I, he heard I was coming to see you guys, he's like, oh man, when you ask him about the ride along, see if he'll come there. I said, I'm sure he will.

• 1:43:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I'll put you in contact with his people. He, we actually are going to be in Vegas for New Year's, so.

• 1:44:04Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 1:44:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:05Speaker 01

  Well, I think he said it's the 20th and I told him.

• 1:44:08Bunnie XO?

  We have something on the calendar on the 20th, don't we? I forget what it is. We'll figure it out.

• 1:44:14Speaker 01

  No, I, listen, I know. He don't do that. Yeah, until we meet each other. Listen, I, every morning I listen to Christian music and praise, you know, for a little bit in the mornings. And every single time I turn on, it's a song Jelly Roll either wrote or sings with Ben Fuller, what's your name, Dolly Parton.

• 1:44:36Bunnie XO?

  Hold on, we're calling him right now. My husband's called three times since we've been here. He's probably trying to call before he went in the blind.

• 1:44:45Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:44:48Bunnie XO?

  Sorry, I didn't hear my, I didn't see my phone ringing. Let me text him.

• 1:44:55Bunnie XO?

  He's in the blind right now. I think he just sent me a picture. Look. Literally, this is, that's his view right now.

• 1:45:03Bunnie XO?

  He's bow hunting right now. He's in Texas.

• 1:45:08Bunnie XO?

  Oh, here he is. Hold on, let me see. That I can't answer the deer 20 yards away. Here, I'm gonna send you, just, uh, pose. Take a picture. One, two, three. I'm gonna send that to him. I'll get you guys connected, I promise. Yes. And we will for sure stay in touch. Yeah, absolutely. Let me end this really quick. Thank you guys for listening to another episode of Dumb and the Hound. I'll see you guys next week.

• 1:45:34Speaker 01

  Aloha, and if you don't tune in next week, what day?

• 1:45:38Bunnie XO?

  Uh, we'll let you, I'll let you know.

• 1:45:40Speaker 01

  So, that'll show let you know, and if you don't tune in, I will hunt you down!

• 1:45:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah! Yeah, Mar.