Hosted by Angela Hartnett and Nick Grimshaw
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Actors and hosts Nick Grimshaw and Angela Hartnett sit down with legendary British actor Ray Winstone to discuss his life in Sicily, his career highs from Scum to The Gentlemen, and his deep love for comfort food and home cooking. Winstone explains how he wound up living part-time in Sicily, drawn to its slower pace, strong sense of community, and traditional lifestyle where shops still close for afternoon breaks. They explore his food preferences, ranging from high-end sashimi and slow-cooked leg of lamb to West End pie and mash, while Hartnett prepares a traditional pan-fried Dover sole with buttery capers and shallots.
Throughout the conversation, Winstone shares behind-the-scenes stories from making Nil by Mouth with Gary Oldman, his early days breaking into acting after getting expelled from drama college, and his youth spent participating in Gucci Day with friends in London. He also reflects on working with director Guy Ritchie on the second series of Netflix's The Gentlemen, praising the ensemble cast and the unique energy brought to set. Blending culinary appreciation with candid personal anecdotes, the episode offers a warm, humorous look at Winstone's transition from East End roots to international projects.
The hosts introduce Ray Winston and dive into a rapid-fire round of personal food preferences.
Nick and Angela tease the upcoming guest, Ray Winstone, while joking about cooking and life, setting the tone for the episode.
Nick and Angela introduce Ray Winstone, hinting at his culinary interests and setting up the interview segment.
Angela explains the star ingredient for the episode—capers—and outlines the recipe for pan‑fried Dover sole.
The hosts thank Ray, recap highlights, and sign off, concluding the episode.
Ray discusses his connection to Sicily, his culinary influences, and how the island’s food culture shaped his palate.
Nick and Angela preview the upcoming second series of "The Gentleman," discussing cast, direction, and what to expect.
Ray reflects on his early acting days, the role of boxing, and his breakthrough in the film "Scum."
Ray recounts the nostalgic tradition of Gucci Day, detailing its origins, rituals, and the camaraderie it fostered.
Ray compares his favourite London bar to a New York counterpart, reminiscing about the unique atmosphere and food quality.
The hosts pose a playful question to Ray about West Ham, offering a goodie bag as a prize.
An email from a listener about Angela’s egg‑cracking technique is discussed, showcasing audience interaction.
Embracing Press As You Ageinsight
Ray Winstone reflects on how getting older changed his perspective on press junkets and photo shoots, turning things he once hated as a young actor into an enjoyable part of the job.
Discovering Life in Sicilystory
Ray Winstone explains how he fell in love with Sicily thirty years ago because its towns and community feel reminded him of the East End of London from decades past.
Sicilian Maintenance Timelinesstory
Ray Winstone and Angela Hartnett joke about asking local Sicilian tradesmen when maintenance work will be finished, only to receive vague answers spanning multiple years.
Reversing Type Two Diabetesdata
Ray Winstone shares that cutting sugar out of his diet completely allowed him to reverse his type two diabetes diagnosis within five months.
Angela Hartnett shares an anecdote about a mother and daughter who flew in from Australia and Ireland just to meet for lunch at her restaurant, Marano.
Getting Cast in Scumstory
Ray Winstone explains that he only landed his breakout role in Scum because he got expelled from drama college on the same day and happened to walk past the auditions.
Ray Winstone describes how he and his teenage friends saved up for Gucci shoes and sharp overcoats to look immaculate while pretending to be bank robbers in London.
“I went there about thirty years ago, first time I went there and just fell in love with the place.”
“I had to stop training for a little while because I'd go for walks and all that.”
“I think it's about just take your time doing it.”
“Because there was an old saying where we came from, it's no good being poor and looking poor.”
“If you don't get back to the Premiership next year, I should come round with the boys and give you all a nice beating.”
“Because they had to unload a lot of players, and that will bring the kids through.”
“Tap it on us, whatever's there. I mean, if there's a bowl, I'll do it on the bowl, but generally on a surface, yeah.”
A top bit of Lillian for an acting legend. We’re delighted to host Ray Winstone at Dish for a meal fit for acting royalty. Ray, born and raised in East London, has starred on screens since his breakthrough role in Scum in 1979. Other credits from a storied career include That Summer!, Quadrophenia, Sexy Beast, The Departed and Nil By Mouth, alongside Kathy Burke and Gary Oldman. Ray has a strong connection to Sicily, and regularly spends time at his Italian retreat, where he lives with a degree of self-sufficiency growing fruit, vegetables, nuts and even making his own olive oil. As we find out, Ray has immersed himself completely into Sicilian culture, and takes time to swap notes with Angela about its benefits and idiosyncrasies. We also hear about Ray’s sweet tooth, his love of a rib of beef and slow cooked meats, and the joy of sharing sloppy pig trotters with pals. Angela serves up a Dover sole with buttery capers & shallots, inspired by this pan-fried plaice recipe, with sides of Jersey Royals and green helga beans. There’s also some of Angela’s own focaccia to help mop up any delicious buttery juices. The wine flows through the episode, beginning with a bottle of Recchia Amarone della Valpolicella, with M de Minuty Côtes De Provence Rosé the suggested pairing for the meal. Don’t forget the salted caramel truffles, too. They come along with the Goody Bag for the ultimate final temptation for Ray. Ray can be seen as crime boss Bobby Glass in The Gentlemen on Netflix right now, with Season 2 landing on 3 September. The show, directed and produced by Guy Ritchie, features a cast including Theo James, Vinnie Jones, Joely Richardson and former Dish guest, Kaya Scodelario. As we know from our chat with Natalie Portman, a set run by Guy Ritchie is always a tasty one, so what did Ray make of the catering?! You can watch full episodes of Dish on YouTube and on Spotify. All recipes from this podcast can be found at waitrose.com/dishrecipes A transcript for this episode can be found at waitrose.com/dish If you want to get in touch with us about anything at all, contact [email protected] Dish from Waitrose is made by Cold Glass Productions 00:00 Welcome! 02:16 Today’s guest 03:00 It’s capers season 04:53 Ray is here and is ready to eat 05:50 Jellied eels to gelato 07:52 Ray meeting Angela for the first time 08:12 Living in Sicily 12:01 Nick going to the wedding of Ray’s daughter 12:57 When in Italy… 14:31 Ray’s food likes 16:06 Can’t go West Ham without pie and mash 18:35 Caramel guilty pleasures 20:04 Ray is a keen cook! 24:07 Growing own produce in Sicily 25:11 Food is served! 27:29 Wine pairing 27:51 The Gentlemen Series 2! 31:20 Catering on Guy Ritchie’s sets 33:09 On working with Guy Ritchie 35:11 Reminiscing Ray’s big break 38:30 Filming Nil by Mouth with Gary Oldman and Kathy Burke 41:20 Fast food quiz 42:39 What’s a Gucci day?! 45:46 End of the show question Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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