We Can Give This to Each Other | Be Stingy With Time

We have to illustrate those virtues of courage and justice toward and for and through others. To help people from going hungry. To alleviate someone’s worry and fear. To put food on their table. Feeding America https://teamfeed.feedingamerica.org/participants/19745 | We donated the first $30,000 and would love your help in getting to our goal of $300,000 https://teamfeed.feedingamerica.org/participants/19745—which would provide over 3 million meals for families across the country! Just head over to dailystoic.com/feeding http://dailystoic.com/feeding—every dollar provides 10 meals, even a small donation makes a big difference. 📚 Books mentioned: On the Shortness of Life: Life Is Long If You Know How to Use It https://www.thepaintedporch.com/products/philosophy19 by Seneca The Daily Stoic Journal: 366 Days of Writing and Reflection on The Art of Living https://store.dailystoic.com/products/the-daily-stoic-journal-signed-edition by Ryan Holiday 👉 Support the podcast and go deeper into Stoicism by subscribing toThe Daily Stoic Premium https://dailystoic.supercast.com/ - unlock ad-free listening, early access, and bonus content:https://dailystoic.supercast.com/ 🎥 Watch the video episodes onThe Daily Stoic YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic/videos:https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic/videos 🎙️ Follow The Daily Stoic Podcast onInstagram https://www.instagram.com/dailystoicpodcast/?hl=en:https://www.instagram.com/dailystoicpodcast ✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email athttps://dailystoic.com/dailyemail 🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store:https://store.dailystoic.com/ 📱 Follow us: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dailystoic/,Twitter https://twitter.com/dailystoic,YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic,TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@daily_stoic?lang=en, andFacebook https://www.facebook.com/dailystoic See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:05Ryan Holiday?

  Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, where each day we bring you a Stoic-inspired meditation, designed to help you find strength and insight and wisdom into everyday life. Each one of these episodes is based on the 2,000-year-old philosophy that has guided some of history's greatest men and women, help you learn from them, to follow in their example, and to start your day off with a little dose of courage and discipline and justice and wisdom. For more, visit dailystoic.com.

• 0:56Ryan Holiday?

  We can give this to each other. In what is almost certainly his greatest piece of writing, On the Shortness of Life, Seneca is writing to his newly-retired father-in-law, Polynus. "The good news," Seneca writes, "is that Polynus will have time to produce the balance sheet of his own life, rather than that of the grain market." The grain market? What was he referring to? Well, Polynus was the longtime supervisor of Rome's grain dole. What was that? "The Roman Empire was, at that time, enormous, with a population of some 45 million citizens. Jobs were scarce, unemployment was high, rapid expansion and economic stagnation had led to a sort of economic recession, something that might sound familiar today. And in response, the upper and ruling classes came together

• 1:41Ryan Holiday?

  and instituted something called the Care of the Grain. Basically, the government distributed free grain to the poor and the suffering, ensuring that everyone had enough to eat, doing their Stoic duty to care for the common good. And continuing until the last years of the empire, this was one of the most lasting and impactful of all Roman government programs. And it's actually an inspiring legacy that lives on to this day. And in fact, it's one that we've tried not just to speak to here at Daily Stoic, but to act on. As we've said before, right? There's this Roman Stoic named Hierocles who spoke of our circles of concern. He said, "We obviously have to care of our mind and our bodies and our immediate family and our extended family. But then we also have to care about our community, our country, our city, our empire and the world. We have to draw these outer rings inwards."

• 2:26Ryan Holiday?

  Basically saying that the people in the outer circle need our help. It's mind blowing to think that nearly a billion people around the globe go to bed hungry every night. More than 47 million people in America are food insecure, including 14 million children. And just as the Romans saw themselves as obligated to help those in need, we have to step up today. We have to illustrate those virtues of courage and justice towards and for and through others. To help people from going hungry to alleviating someone else's worry and fear. Put food on their table and we can do this together. Today is Giving Tuesday. I don't know if you know what that is, but Giving Tuesday, basically coming off the excess of Cyber Monday and all that.

• 3:08Ryan Holiday?

  People come together and they try to give instead of just trying to get. And we are raising money for Feeding America. We talked about this yesterday and on Friday, instead of Black Friday and Cyber Monday, this is what we focus on. We try to have a big day on Giving Tuesday because that actually matters. We're trying to raise $300,000. That'll provide 3 million meals. We just crossed the $200,000 mark, which is incredible. Thank you to everyone that donated, which is absolutely amazing. And I would love for you to kick in if you could. I put in the first 30,000. That's 10% of the goal. And then I'm just hoping that this community of roughly 1 million people can come together. If everyone just gave a few cents, we would get there very quickly.

• 3:52Ryan Holiday?

  And a dollar or two can provide as many as 10 meals for people in need. So let's do that. Let's be good Stoics today. Let's give here on Giving Tuesday and fulfill that obligation as we were talking about. That's dailystoic.com/feeding and let's get after it.

• 4:20Ryan Holiday?

  Be stingy with time. That's what we're journaling about in the Daily Stoic Journal. That's where this little meditation comes from. "One of the most common sayings we hear, and you might have said this yourself, is that life is short. And it is, but as Seneca remarked, it's pretty long if you know how to use it. And the first step to that is not giving so much of this time away to other people. Being miserly about our time is a powerful exercise which can keep us from squandering the one truly non-renewable resource. What in your life consumes a lot of time for no good purpose?

• 5:01Ryan Holiday?

  What amusements or desires consume our time without giving us a good return? As you review that list, make a commitment to doing something about it. Life is short, after all, and you don't have much to spare." Seneca says, "We're all the geniuses of history to focus on a single theme that could never fully express their bafflement at the darkness, the human mind. No person would give even an inch of their estate, or the slightest dispute with a neighbor can mean hell to pay. Yet we easily let others encroach on our lives. Worse, we often pave the way for those who will take it over. No person would hand out their money to a passerby, but how many of us hand out our lives?

• 5:44Ryan Holiday?

  We're tight-fisted with our property and money, and yet we think too little of wasting time, the one thing we should all be the toughest misers about." That's Seneca on the shortness of life. "It is not that we all have too short a time to live," Seneca says, "but that we squander a great deal of it. Life is long enough, and it's given in sufficient measure to do many great things if we spend it well. But when it's poured down the drain of luxury and neglect, when it's employed to no good end, we're finally driven to see that it is passed by without us even recognizing its passing." So it is. We don't receive a short life. We make it so.

• 6:29Ryan Holiday?

  Or as I've also heard it rendered by Seneca, it's not that life is short. It's that we waste a lot of it. And this all comes from his wonderful essay on the shortness of life, which you should absolutely read. It's a very powerful essay. It's worth rereading a couple of times a year, to be quite frank. But I was thinking about this recently. I had sort of two good examples. Number one, I'm trying to get this television delivered and it was supposed to come. And then it didn't come, so I messaged the people and then, then it was supposed to come the next day. So I messaged the people, then I had to contact Amazon about it. And then they said they were going to do it and then, but I got passed. Anyways, I'm spending time after time after time. And then at some point, someone promised me a $200 credit on this TV, which is, you know, I'm free $200. Not bad.

• 7:14Ryan Holiday?

  But it occurred to me that one had already objectively spent more than $200 of my time on this thing. Like if what an hour of my time is worth. But also, if you just asked me, hey, would you spend $200 more on the TV and not have to go through this? I would have taken that option as well. And I had to wrestle with, how much energy am I going to spend trying to get this $200 credit? That may or may not ever exist. The TV from these people may or may not ever, to chase down. And so, of course, if someone stole $200 from me, I'd be very upset, right? If they'd overcharged me $200 on this TV, I'd have been upset.

• 7:54Ryan Holiday?

  But I'm willing to spend $200 of my time to either get this credit or to get this TV, right? And that's what we do. We waste our time. We, we value money and property, as Seneca is saying. But time is this like thing that we assume we have an unlimited amount of, because no one, I don't know. It's just crazy. And then I, I think about this with the bookstore, which I, I love and I'm so proud of. But people come by and they want to say hi, you know? And I think sometimes people think it's rude that I won't run downstairs to see everyone that's, that's here. And I can't do that, right? Because not only do I have work, but if I did that. For every single person, I would never have time.

• 8:37Ryan Holiday?

  I'd use up all my time. I could spend almost the entire day doing that. And so when Seneca talks about being a miser, miser, if you're not familiar with that word, miser is like someone who's tight-fisted with money. It's like a cheap person. But he's saying you have to be cheap with your time. You can't give it away. Yes, you should be kind and and treat people well and not be rude about it and not be self-absorbed, but you have to be a bit of a miser with your time because you're gonna have to hurt people's feelings or not give them everything they want. When you say no, you're gonna have to say no sometimes. And that's not fun. But I always try to remind myself, who, when I'm saying no to one person, I am also saying yes to something else.

• 9:22Ryan Holiday?

  And conversely, when I'm saying yes to some inquiry, I'm also saying no to someone or something else. Right? And that's just the struggle that we're on. And if you have kids, if you have a spouse, if you have work that's important, if you have potential you're trying to fulfill, if you're just trying to get better at yourself, it's gonna mean being tight-fisted with your time. It's gonna mean saying no to people. And that's just how it goes. That's just how it goes. And so I would urge everyone to take a minute, try to think about what an hour of your time is is worth. Right? Try to think about things that you can take off your plate so you can get that time back.

• 10:05Ryan Holiday?

  But then think about what you are frivolously spending your time on, and if that's worth it. What are the rote tasks? The things that you do, the things that you go, ugh, you put off and you dread doing them? What are those things? Why are you still doing them? Do you need to be doing them? And at the end of your life, when you go, man, that flew by. I wish I had just one more day to do X, one more hour to do X. Right? Are you gonna look back and be like, well, I am, I am glad that I spent X many hours doing this. Think about your commute, right? How many hours you're gonna spend doing that? Think about how many hours you spend in meetings.

• 10:46Ryan Holiday?

  Think about how many hours you spend on ridiculous trivialities, right? I think what I like to point out, Lassana's thing about neighbors is like, yeah, if your neighbor's encroached on your property, you would object. But if your neighbor came over and just wanted to gossip about nonsense, you would indulge that, right? And that's not a good idea. You have to be miserly with your time. Not selfish, not cruel, not indifferent to other people's time, of course, but a bit miserly with your own time. And be stingy with it, as they said. And I'll cut this episode short, so I'm not, not taking up too much of your time, but you get the point.

• 11:29Ryan Holiday?

  Hey, it's Ryan. Thank you for listening to the Daily Stoic Podcast. I just wanted to say, we so appreciate it. We love serving you. It's amazing to us that over 30 million people have downloaded these episodes in the couple of years we've been doing it. It's an honor. Please, spread the word. Tell people about it. And this isn't to sell anything. I just wanted to say, thank you.