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Transcript 0:02 Speaker 00 Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast. Each day, we bring you a meditation inspired by the ancient Stoics, illustrated with stories from history, current events, and literature to help you be better at what you do. And at the beginning of the week, we try to do a deeper dive, setting a kind of Stoic intention for the week, something to meditate on, something to think on, something to leave you with, to journal about, whatever it is you happen to be doing. So let's get into it.
0:42 Speaker 00 "They are going to do you wrong." He had worked many years on it. He had done an incredible job. He had published something that would be of use to many generations, bringing them the life-changing wisdom of the past. And how was George Long, the 19th-century British translator of Marcus Aurelius, rewarded for this service? By finding out that an American publisher almost immediately put out a bootleg edition that siphoned off his royalties. Worse still, he found out that they put their own dedication page in the book against his wishes and his practice. Long had not previously dedicated his books to anyone. He could have been angry. He had every right to be. But the thing about Stoicism, the thing about Marcus Aurelius, is that it can't help but get its claws into you.
1:25 Speaker 00 The words, once you introduce them into your system, they get to work. So George Long, remembering Marcus's advice to understand that people are people and that we're only harmed if something affects our character, that we do our work without thinking about the third thing, recognition, compensation, whatever. And so he adds the following note to the new edition addressing the controversy. "I do not grudge him his profit if he has made any. There may be many men and women in the United States who will be glad to read the thoughts of the Roman emperor." If the American politicians, as they are called, would read them also, I should be much pleased, but I do not think the emperor's morality would suit their taste. And it's good that George Long decided to see these things this way because he had not much longer left to live.
2:10 Speaker 00 That's one of the reasons the Stoics practiced memento mori, wasn't it? Because life is too short to be bitter, too short for feuds, too short to be driven to madness by someone else's bad deeds. And look, the George Long translation is from the late 1800s, it's pretty friggin' good. I mean, you can get it for free on the internet. Some people have brought it back out, but it's really good. I personally love the Gregory Hays translation. Actually, I was just at a bookstore here, I'm on vacation with the family, and I didn't have a copy with me, and I grabbed a copy of the paperback Gregory Hays Modern Library Translation. That's the one with the bird on it, it's like black and red. That's also the one, we have the leather edition of it that we sell at Daily Stoic. I bought the rights from Gregory Hays to do like a really good stand the test of time
2:54 Speaker 00 edition, which you can check out at store.dailystoic.com or grab a copy at the Painted Porch. I'll sign it for you or whatever. But if you haven't read Meditations yet, you gotta. And I've got to imagine Gregory Hays has similar stories of Marcus's work just worming its way into his life too. I know I have many myself. A new way to pray. We often pray for things we desire and in the process, excuse ourselves from the equation. We're hoping that the heavens will magically gift us with the outcome we want, whether
3:38 Speaker 00 it's for a promotion or a speedy recovery of a loved one. The Stoics would urge you to stop doing this. Marcus Aurelius reminded himself not to present the gods with the list of demands for pleasures or comforts, but instead ask for help not needing those things. In a sense, then, he was really asking for inner strength. He was, in a sense, asking himself. So, think about all the things you want, that you're praying or hoping for, and try turning them around like this. See what you come up with instead. And this is from this week's entry in the Daily Stoic Journal. You can check out the Daily Stoic Journal, 366 Days of Writing and Reflection on the Art of Living by me, Ryan Holiday, anywhere books are sold, including The Painted Porch,
4:23 Speaker 00 my bookstore, at thepaintedporch.com. "Try praying differently," Marcus writes in Meditations 940. See what happens. Instead of asking for a way to sleep with her, try asking for a way to stop desiring to sleep with her. Instead of asking for a way to get rid of him, try asking for a way not to crave his demise. Instead of "a way not to lose my child," try asking for "a way to lose my fear of it." And then Epictetus in Discourses says, "We cry to God Almighty, how can we escape this agony? Don't you have hands? Or could it be that God forgot to give you a pair? Sit and pray your nose doesn't run, or rather, just wipe your own nose and stop seeking the scapegoat."
5:07 Speaker 00 And then Epictetus in Discourses 4:1, he says, "But I haven't at any time been hindered in my will nor forced against it. How is that possible? I have bound up my choice to act with the will of God. God wills that I be sick, such is my will. He wills that I should choose something, so do I. He wills that I reach for something, or something be given to me, I wish for the same. What God doesn't will, I will not wish for." This idea of blowing your own nose, that's a great expression from Epictetus that I love. I think what the Stoics are talking about here is self-sufficiency. I was just reading a great little biography of Musashi, the samurai swordsman, and I wrote down a line in my commonplace book from him. He says, "Worship the gods and Buddha, but do not rely on them." Right?
5:52 Speaker 00 He didn't want to go into a swordfight hoping that Buddha would bless him. He trained for it to make that irrelevant, right? He wanted to rely on his sword and his actions. Remember, the Stoics talk about what's in our control, what's not in our control. I think what the Stoics are talking about is... Don't pray for things that are not in your control, that are not up to you. Don't make yourself dependent on getting lucky, on being blessed, on your dreams coming true, on everything going right. Focus on having a plan that, as the Stoics say, is indifferent to all that. Right? There's another great line from Epictetus where he says, you know, a student's like, "How should I do this?" He says, "You're asking me to show you what to do."
6:35 Speaker 00 And he says, "Wouldn't it be better to ask to be adaptable to all circumstances?" And so this is really where we're trying to get, a place where there isn't anything we pray for. I take some pride, you know, every year my wife will go, "What do you want for your birthday?" And I go, "I don't, nothing. I don't want anything. There's nothing I need, there's nothing I want. It's not because I'm a billionaire, it's that I, I spent more time getting the things that I did need, the tools I need for my life, for my happiness, and then for the most part, being indifferent to all the other things. And not needing to wait for my birthday, or Christmas, or, you know, a check to come in to be able to afford this thing. It's better to not want it in the first place.
7:17 Speaker 00 And I think this is true for all the kinds of luck, or, you know, cool experiences, or things that we think we want or need. No. Either get it for yourself if it's possible, or write it off. I think this is kind of the, that's what the third quote, the final quote from Epictetus, he's saying is like, "Look, I'll just align my likes with what happens. If God wants me to have it, or the gods want me to have it, or the logos, or whatever." Stoics obviously had complicated, somewhat contradictory views on religion, but what will be, will be. What I get, is what I get. I won't throw a fit. Right? That's where we're trying to get as Stoics, trying to get to this place of self-sufficiency, where we blow our own nose, where we're good, whatever happens.
8:01 Speaker 00 And I wish that for you. It's not easy, it doesn't just happen, you gotta work for it, but that's what we're doing here, with these meditations. And I hope this helps, and I'll talk to you soon.
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