Pod Insights The Daily Stoic | Wondery+ It’s All In How You See It | Judge Yourself Not Others About this episode It’s fascinating to think of all these different translators sitting down and seeing this same bit of writing and having such wildly different interpretations. How much each one was a reflection of their time and place, how much room there was for personality, for re-creation, and re-imagination and yet also still, how the same essential truth comes through. So it goes with philosophy and with life. Nothing, not even philosophy, is completely objective. It’s all in how you see it. It’s in what you need to see in it. It’s about what you do with it. We happen to think that the Gregory Hays translation is the best and that’s why we worked with him to put out what we think is the absolutely best edition of Meditations. It was designed in the U. S. by Ryan Holiday and made in the U. K., and features:Genuine leather from the best Bible manufacturer in the United Kingdom. This edition includes a gold foil-stamped leather cover, gilded-edge pages printed on premium-grade paper. Custom illustrations to delineate each section. Custom gold foil-stamped box to protect your copy. In-depth biography on the life of Marcus Aurelius written by Ryan Holiday from his book Lives Of The Stoics. To learn more about this special edition of Meditations, visit dailystoic.com/meditations. ✉️ Sign up for the Daily Stoic email: https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Check out the Daily Stoic Store for Stoic inspired products, signed books, and more.📱 Follow us: Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Transcript 0:02 Speaker 00 Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast. Each day, we bring you a meditation inspired by the ancient Stoics, illustrated with stories from history, current events, and literature to help you be better at what you do. And at the beginning of the week, we try to do a deeper dive, setting a kind of Stoic intention for the week, something to meditate on, something to think on, something to leave you with, to journal about, whatever it is you happen to be doing. So let's get into it.
0:36 Speaker 01 What's left to value? This, in my opinion, acting or refraining from action as dictated by the way we're made. And here, our occupations and crafts show the way, since it's the aim of every craft that what it makes should fit the purpose for which it was made. And what else is it that tutors and teachers strive for? So that's where value lies. And if just this one thing goes well, you won't be interested in procuring any of the other so-called goods for yourself. So won't you stop finding all sorts of other things valuable as well? Otherwise, you won't be self-reliant, or self-sufficient, or impassive,
1:19 Speaker 01 because you're bound to suffer from envy and jealousy, to mistrust those who are able to deprive you of the things you prize. What's left to be prized? This, I think, to limit our action or inaction to only what's in keeping with the needs of our own preparation. It's what the exertions of education and teaching are all about. Here is the thing to be prized. If you hold this firmly, you'll stop trying to get yourself all the other things. If you don't, you won't be free, self-sufficient, or liberated from passion, but necessarily full of envy, jealousy, and suspicion for any who have the power to take them.
2:02 Speaker 01 And you'll plot against those who do have what you prize.
2:06 Speaker 00 It's pretty fascinating to think of all these different translators sitting down and seeing the same bit of writing and having such wildly different interpretations. How much each one was a reflection of their time and place? How much room there was for personality, for recreation and re-imagination? And yet also still how the same essential truth comes through. And so it goes with philosophy and with life. Nothing, not even philosophy, is completely objective. It's all in how you see it. It's in what you need to see in it. It's also about what you do with it. As funny as I was writing today's entry, I grabbed most of them right off my shelf. I have the Hayes edition here.
2:49 Speaker 00 I have the Waterfield edition here. Obviously, I have my leather bound edition of the Hays translation. And that's my favorite, of course. We worked really hard on that here at Daily Stoic. You can check that out in the Daily Stoic store. I'll link to that in today's show notes. We've got the paperback edition also, of course. We've got the Robin Waterfield one at the Painted Porch. I do not carry this 1634 translation. And then, you know, Steve's edition in the Daily Stoic. If you want that one, you can grab that also in anywhere books are sold. You can get an audio version also, but I just thought this was a cool way to look at some of my favorite translations of Meditations, a book which sits by my nightstand, which set so many things in my life in motion, including this very podcast.
3:34 Speaker 00 So thanks for listening.
3:44 Speaker 00 Judge yourself, not others. There is nothing less philosophical than being a know-it-all. This is especially true of those who use their knowledge to scold others for their mistakes while claiming the superiority of their knowledge or insight. The Stoics taught that behaving this way was to miss the entire purpose of philosophy as a tool for self-correction, medicine for our own souls, not a weapon for putting down others. Seneca's letters twice employ the metaphor of scrubbing down or scraping off our faults. "We need to see ourselves as in the care of philosophy's principles," he says. Or, as Epictetus put it later, when referring to the philosopher's lecture hall, "we need to see it as a hospital for our own therapy."
4:30 Speaker 00 So try not to write down a single complaint or problem of another person in your journal this week. Focus on what ails you. We have two quotes from Seneca's Moral Letters and one from the Discourses. "When philosophy is wielded with arrogance and stubbornly, it is the cause for the ruin of many. Let philosophy scrape off your own faults rather than be a way to rail against the faults of others." That's Seneca, Letter 103. "Some people with exceptional minds quickly grasp virtue or produce it within themselves. But other dim and lazy types hindered by bad habits must have their rusty souls constantly scrubbed down. The weaker sorts will be helped and lifted from their bad opinions if we put them in the care of philosophy's principles."
5:13 Speaker 00 That's Epictetus's Moral Letters 95. And then Epictetus's Discourses 323. "Men, the philosopher's lecture hall is a hospital. You shouldn't walk out of it feeling pleasure but pain, for you weren't well when you entered it." I think this is the tension here, and I've seen it. Some people maybe get it wrong, probably in bad faith, when they reply to stuff I've posted or written. Who are you to criticize, I don't know, anti-vaxxers? Or who are you to say that have this political opinion? Or to say that this is right or wrong? You're not perfect. Of course, right? Of course, I'm not perfect. Of course, a Stoic is primarily focused on their own edification,
5:58 Speaker 00 their own improvement. They're trying to look in the mirror. They're trying to scrub off their own faults. That doesn't mean that we turn a blind eye to what's happening in the world. That doesn't mean we indulge and accept and encourage ridiculousness or injustices by other people. I mean, some of the best Stoic lines are quips or criticisms of other people, right? The Stoics were also teachers. Zeno, Seneca, Musonius Rufus, Epictetus. They were writers and thinkers. They were responsible for teaching. Philosophy to people. Of course, we have to make judgments.
6:35 Speaker 00 I think what the Stoics are really talking about is not being a Monday morning quarterback at the expense of your performance on Sunday, right? When I study history, obviously, part of my job is to make judgments and communicate these ideas to you and to people and to myself. And that really is what I'm doing. And I have a chapter in Courage is Calling about why we don't judge another person's courage, right? We don't fully understand everything that's going on with them. But in another sense, we do judge their courage. But instead of criticizing them, instead of feeling better than them because they made this mistake, we try to look at them as cautionary tales, almost like we would in a Greek tragedy or a Roman play, a Shakespearean play, and try to apply those lessons to our own lives.
7:20 Speaker 00 The point is, when you see someone else doing something wrong, when you see something you don't like, when you see someone debasing themselves, when you see someone advocating a hoisterous or dangerous opinion, you can criticize it, you can call it out for what it is, but don't feel superior for it. Try to learn from it. Try to apply lessons from that to your own life. That's the journey that we're on here. Obviously, as a writer and a speaker, I have to draw on examples. My work would be not very compelling if I didn't do that. So I have to walk a slightly different razor's edge. And, and I mean, look, that's what's so funny, right? The Stoics are saying, don't criticize other people.
8:01 Speaker 00 And yet, even in this quote from Seneca, Moro Letters 95, he's saying, look, some people get this naturally, but there are other dim and lazy types hindered by bad habits, and they must have their rusty souls constantly scrubbed. So that does exist, right? And somebody has to do that job. And perhaps that's your job with a friend or a family member. Just remember that your real job is scrubbing down your own rusty soul. And if you ever think that it is not rusty, well, that is a compelling sign right there that it is. Just a funny note, I get this all the time because of ego is the enemy. People go, what do I do about my boss's ego? What do you do about all the egos in our organization? Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba.
8:45 Speaker 00 But much less often do I get the question, "I have an ego. What do I do about my ego?" Right? The question we often are gravitating towards solving other people's issues, focusing on other people's flaws. But, as they say in the Bible, "Don't worry about the splinter in your neighbor's eye when you have a log in your own." So that's what philosophy is about. You are not well. Treat yourself first. But of course, you may recognize similar symptoms in other people if you need to point them out. Go right ahead.
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