Summary
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This episode examines the 2019 volcanic eruption on Whakari, also known as White Island, in New Zealand, which resulted in the deaths of 22 people, and the subsequent criminal trials and legal battles. Host Phoebe Judge speaks with Emily Clark, a foreign desk journalist for the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, about how tourists were brought to the privately owned active volcano despite elevated threat levels. The conversation explores New Zealand's workplace health and safety laws, the complexities of holding island owners and tour operators criminally liable, and the unique intersection of criminal charges and the country's no-fault accident compensation system.
- Visitors on the island were only informed of the elevated volcanic threat level after they had already arrived at the site. 6:52
- New Zealand operates under a state-run no-fault personal injury cover scheme, meaning injured parties cannot sue companies for damages. 15:31
- The criminal conviction of the island-owning company, Whakari Management Limited, was ultimately overturned in the High Court on appeal. 19:12
Chapters
- 0:02Podcast Intro and Host Greeting
The episode opens with the host introducing the show and setting the stage for the upcoming interview.
- 0:40Introduction to Emily Clark and Volcano Overview
Emily Clark is introduced as a journalist covering the 2019 New Zealand volcano eruption.
- 1:10Whakari Volcano Characteristics and History
Details about the unique structure of Whakari (White Island) and its volcanic activity are explained.
- 2:55Ownership and Tourism Operations on the Island
The private ownership by the Buttle family and the arrangement with tour operators are described.
- 6:00Risk Assessment and Tour Group Awareness
Discussion of how tourists were informed about the volcano’s danger level before the eruption.
- 7:27The 2019 Eruption Event and Survivor Accounts
Recounting the eruption, the immediate chaos, and testimonies from survivors.
- 13:06Legal Framework: WorkSafe New Zealand and ACC
Explanation of New Zealand’s regulatory bodies and the no‑fault compensation system.
- 17:20Criminal Trial Proceedings and Outcomes
Overview of the 2023 trial, the defendants, and the eventual dismissal of most charges.
- 19:48Sentencing, Public Reaction, and Judicial Commentary
Details on fines, the judge’s remarks about profit from danger, and public sentiment.
- 22:49Post‑Trial Inquiry and Future Tourism Impact
Discussion of the ongoing coroner’s inquiry, potential new charges, and changes to tourism safety protocols.
Highlights
- 1:10
Volcano Structure and Risksinsight
The guest explains that Whakari is not a classic cone volcano with lava flows, but an ocean-submerged volcano whose crater functions as a bowl that erupts with high-pressure toxic gas, debris, and rocks.
- 3:09
The island has been passed down through generations of the Buttle family and was operated through arrangements with tour companies that paid a fee and a commission per tourist.
- 6:15
Realization on the Islandstory
Survivors and families testified that tourists were not warned about the level two volcanic activity threat until they had already completed the journey and stepped onto the island.
- 9:01
The volcano hit a full-scale level three eruption lasting two minutes, forcing survivors to make agonizing decisions while fleeing horrific burns and hazardous terrain.
- 13:25
WorkSafe Regulator Chargesstrategy
WorkSafe New Zealand brought criminal charges against 13 different parties, arguing that the island and tours constituted a workplace that failed to protect tourists from safety breaches.
- 18:13
Clothing Impact on Injuriesdata
Trial testimony revealed technical details showing that men fared better than women during the eruption because women tended to wear activewear rather than looser cotton garments.
Quotes
“I was in New Zealand, I thought I would be safe.”
Unnamed speaker · 6:37 “It was literally in the brochure.”
Unnamed speaker · 20:22 “The onus was on WorkSafe New Zealand to prove that this was a workplace, that not only the people who were obviously at work, like tour guides, but also the people in their care, tourists, were protected under WorkSafe legislation.”
Unnamed speaker · 14:43 “So you can't sue a company in New Zealand if you're injured.”
Unnamed speaker · 15:39
Sponsored segments
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- Kayak 27:30–28:02
- AT&T Business Wireless 28:00–28:27
About this episode
In 2019, a volcano erupted off the coast of New Zealand - killing 22 tourists who were on it at the time. Four years later, a criminal trial began - where prosecutors claimed that several individuals and companies had violated workplace safety laws, and had “used an active volcano to make money.” Phoebe interviews Emily Clark from the Australian Broadcasting Company about the trial and what happened next. You can also watch this interview at youtube.com/criminalpodcast. Say hello on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok. Sign up for our occasional newsletter. Follow the show and review us on Apple Podcasts. Sign up for Criminal Plus to get behind-the-scenes bonus episodes of Criminal, ad-free listening of all of our shows, invitations to virtual events, special merch deals, and more. We also make This is Love and Phoebe Reads a Mystery. Check out our online shop. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Transcript
3,985 words · 8 speakers
Topics
- New Zealand
- Whakari
- WorkSafe New Zealand
- Australian Broadcasting Corporation
- Accident Compensation Corporation
- Whakatane
- New York City
- Paris
- White Island
- Pike River Mine Disaster
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