Bryan Kohberger Admitted to Murder - Now He Wants to Take It Back
Hosted by Derrick Levasseur and Stephanie Harlowe
- 35m
- Transcript
Summary
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This episode covers Bryan Kohberger's post-conviction petition to withdraw his guilty plea for the University of Idaho murders, in which he traded the death penalty for life sentences. The hosts discuss the weak grounds of his motion—such as complaints about prison conditions and claims regarding hair debris found in a victim's hand that testing actually showed belonged to the victim—and analyze a shocking about-face by defense expert witness Cy Ray, who now claims phone data proves stalking and targets were missed. The hosts argue that Kohberger's delusional optimism will likely fail, though they debate whether he deserves a new trial with the death penalty back on the table or if he should simply suffer through decades of misery in maximum security prison.
- A defendant cannot generally accept a plea bargain and later reverse course simply because they dislike the reality of prison life. 6:35
- DNA testing and forensic experts concluded that hair found in Ethan Chapin's hand belonged to the victim himself, not an unidentified attacker. 9:38
- Former defense expert witness Cy Ray publicly changed his stance to argue that cellphone data places Kohberger at the scene and points to Madison as the primary target. 16:45
- The family of victim Kaylee voiced strong opposition to Kohberger's legal maneuvers, labeling him a narcissist for attempting to overturn his conviction. 32:02
Chapters
- 0:13Episode Intro and Host Greeting
Stephanie and Derek introduce the episode and set the stage for discussing Bryan Koberger’s plea withdrawal.
- 0:54Video Clip and Host Commentary
Derek plays a two‑minute video and expresses enthusiasm for Koberger’s attempt to retract his confession.
- 5:44Koberger’s Alleged Coercion and Exculpatory Evidence
The hosts examine claims that attorneys pressured Koberger and that he was unaware of exculpatory evidence.
- 7:46Analysis of Hair Evidence and Forensic Findings
The conversation delves into the hair evidence, FBI reports, and expert testimony regarding potential exculpatory material.
- 11:00Victims’ Families and Public Opinion
Discussion shifts to how families feel about a new trial and the broader public response.
- 13:58Break and Sponsor Segment
A brief commercial break featuring a cat food sponsor interrupts the legal discussion.
- 17:04Expert Witness Cy Ray’s Contradictory Statements
Hosts discuss Cy Ray’s shift from defense to prosecution stance and the implications for the case.
- 23:18Re‑examining Phone Location Data
The hosts revisit Cy Ray’s phone‑location claims and question why prosecutors may have missed them.
- 34:12Closing Thoughts and Future Episodes
Hosts wrap up, reflect on the case, and tease upcoming content and membership options.
Highlights
- 1:10
Thrilled About Retractioninsight
The guest explains why he is actually thrilled that Kohberger is trying to retract his guilty plea, arguing it could put the death penalty back on the table.
- 3:50
The guest reveals how an online news outlet took his comments out of context in a headline, making it look like he was defending Kohberger.
- 5:27
Grounds for Withdrawalstrategy
The host breaks down the legal arguments raised in Kohberger's post-conviction filing, including alleged coercion, bad prison conditions, and exculpatory evidence.
- 8:04
The host details how hair debris found in Ethan Chapin's hand was tested by an independent expert and identified as belonging to Ethan rather than a killer.
- 16:45
Defense Expert Switches Sidesinsight
The hosts discuss how a digital forensics expert originally hired by Kohberger's defense team has now come forward claiming Kohberger is guilty and stalked the victim.
- 21:20
Contradictory Expert Reportdebate
The hosts examine how the expert's current claims directly contradict the written expert report he prepared for the defense in January 2025.
- 27:38
Debating Prison Versus Deathdebate
The hosts debate whether it is better for justice if Kohberger rots in prison for decades or gets a new trial resulting in the death penalty.
Quotes
“I, for one, am thrilled that Brian Koberger is trying to retract his confession.”
Derrick Levasseur · 1:10 “out, there's no deal. No going to prison for the next 30, 40 years and living off the taxpayers' dime.”
Derrick Levasseur · 1:34 “morphologically consistent with the decedent Chapin's own reference hair.”
Stephanie Harlowe · 9:32 “There is no evidence indicating there was another person there.”
Derrick Levasseur · 12:00
Sponsored segments
- Smalls 13:58–16:30
- Patreon 34:22–34:39
About this episode
In July 2026, Bryan Kohberger filed a petition seeking to withdraw his July 2025 guilty plea, claiming ineffective counsel and that he was pressured into a false confession. He was convicted of the 2022 murders of four University of Idaho students, and is serving four consecutive life sentences.
Transcript
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Topics
- Yahoo
- Idaho
- King Road House
- In Touch Weekly
- FBI
- Crime Weekly
- University of Idaho
- Pullman
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