Summer S’pouses Episode 1

The Chums make preparations for the arrival of their spouses to the podcast on a special new summer series. Wanna get a chance to talk to Conan? Submit here: teamcoco.com/apply

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:02Conan O'Brien?

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• 0:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 0:15Conan O'Brien?

  You know, when you own a house, you gotta fix it yourself. Sona,

• 0:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 0:17Conan O'Brien?

  you, you see this to be true, right?

• 0:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, your garage door breaks and you're like, well, I have to fix it.

• 0:22Conan O'Brien?

  Probably at first you said, hey, I'll get the super to fix it. It's your house, dude.

• 0:26Speaker 01

  It's mine, dude.

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• 1:26Speaker 03

  Summer Spouses with Conan O'Brien, Sona Obsession, and Matt Gourley, and Eliza Powell O'Brien, Tac Beroyan, and Amanda Lund.

• 1:39Conan O'Brien?

  Hey there and welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. We're doing something different today. Let me take you back in time for a number of years now.

• 1:47Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:47Conan O'Brien?

  In the summer, we have done a series, a segment called Summer Smores. I think it was, began as an offshoot of my bitter complaint that I thought smores was a terrible failure as a dessert and a snack.

• 2:03Speaker 01

  I don't think it's a failure.

• 2:04Conan O'Brien?

  Failure. We don't need to litigate this again.

• 2:06Speaker 01

  You can dislike it, but you can't say it's a failure.

• 2:08Conan O'Brien?

  We're not gonna litigate this again. Thank you.

• 2:10Speaker 01

  But you can't, you can say you don't like it.

• 2:13Conan O'Brien?

  The response I had on the internet was fantastic. People said, I agree with you, Conan. It's a snack that no one really enjoys, but they, it's like, but they pretend they do. It's like Atlantic City. You're supposed to enjoy it. Then you get there and it's, it's terrible.

• 2:29Speaker 01

  It is not the same as Atlantic City.

• 2:31Conan O'Brien?

  Bucket of diarrhea. Here we go. So.

• 2:33Speaker 01

  Oh, not a failure. Okay.

• 2:34Conan O'Brien?

  So any hoots?

• 2:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:36Conan O'Brien?

  But failure. But anyway, my point is that that was a series and then it grew into us doing all kinds of, mostly drinking. There was a lot of drinking in Summer Smores. You, Matt, would unveil these incredible cocktails. Sona, you would go to town on these cocktails.

• 2:49Speaker 01

  I would.

• 2:50Conan O'Brien?

  And then after you had T many Martinis, you would, uh, we would say and do things. People really enjoyed it. And we did that for a number of years and it was fun while it lasted.

• 3:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:01Conan O'Brien?

  We thought, let's try something different this time around. And so, ladies and gentlemen, I bring you the beginning of an exciting new series. It's exclusive to this summer 2026 and it's called Summer Spouses. Just like Summer Smores, but spouses, S and then the little apostrophe, Pouses.

• 3:22Speaker 03

  Which I guess we're saying is really the full title is Summer Some More Pouses.

• 3:27Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 3:28Speaker 03

  Some Pouses.

• 3:29Conan O'Brien?

  So if you're going off the smores thing.

• 3:31Speaker 01

  No, but smores are smores because it's S apostrophe more.

• 3:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:34Speaker 01

  Smores.

• 3:35Speaker 03

  Some more.

• 3:36Speaker 01

  Some.

• 3:37Conan O'Brien?

  Question.

• 3:37Speaker 01

  Some spouses, not some more spouses.

• 3:39Conan O'Brien?

  When you took us down this little alley, did you know it would be a dead end or in your case, a dud end?

• 3:46Speaker 03

  Oh, this was me just taking a bullet to get you guys off fucking arguing about smores.

• 3:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:51Conan O'Brien?

  We were off that. If you listen to the tape, you'll find that we were safely in new territory. I find you guilty on all counts.

• 3:58Speaker 03

  All right, fair enough.

• 3:58Conan O'Brien?

  And Sona, smores bad. So here we are at Summer Spouses.

• 4:03Speaker 01

  Is it spouses or spouses?

• 4:06Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, I'm just gonna plow ahead without you. I am dissolving this, uh, this parliament. And I'm charging ahead. I have now liked Napoleon. I'm just gonna make myself emperor.

• 4:16Speaker 03

  Should we explain what this is and how it will unfold? How about that?

• 4:20Conan O'Brien?

  We are going to chat amongst ourselves. Then we are going to, one episode at a time, bring one of our spouses in here. And so we're going to bring in Amanda, Matt. We're gonna bring in Tac, Sona. And Liza has agreed to come in and join the podcast for the first time, providing she doesn't have to be married to me anymore.

• 4:46Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. Finally.

• 4:48Speaker 03

  She was on once to plug her podcast, I believe.

• 4:51Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, that's right. She was on, she was on, okay. All right. So she has technically been on once, but anyway. So this is gonna be exciting and I'm looking forward to it. I don't know what's gonna happen.

• 5:01Speaker 03

  And we should also mention there are two episodes past that. So it's just us, then each one of them gets an individual episode. And then the fifth episode is just the three of them without us.

• 5:12Conan O'Brien?

  It's going to be Tac, Amanda, and Liza, just them in a room talking.

• 5:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:17Conan O'Brien?

  And then I think for the final episode, it's us, them, and a bunch of attorneys.

• 5:29Conan O'Brien?

  That's gonna be a long episode. But you're really gonna get, you're gonna have to see all of our assets, which is pretty cool. Pretty cool.

• 5:38Conan O'Brien?

  I'm looking forward to that. So.

• 5:39Speaker 01

  Are we gonna drink?

• 5:40Conan O'Brien?

  No, there's no drinking in this one, but you can take as many gummies as you like. And again, shout out to our gummy friends. What's their name again?

• 5:48Speaker 01

  Kamino.

• 5:48Speaker 03

  I've been going to town on those guys.

• 5:50Conan O'Brien?

  Have you? Really?

• 5:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm really.

• 5:52Conan O'Brien?

  I have not. I'm still cautiously waiting.

• 5:55Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 5:55Conan O'Brien?

  I'm cautiously waiting. I thought it was like wine. You should really let it. I have a gummy cellar.

• 5:59Speaker 03

  No, it's the opposite. They're just gonna turn into weird little husks.

• 6:03Conan O'Brien?

  Okay.

• 6:04Speaker 01

  You're letting your gummies age?

• 6:06Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. I have a little gummy rack in my basement and I go down and I'm like, well, these ones are, these mellow me. Now, these are chill over here.

• 6:15Speaker 03

  He's smoking some of them.

• 6:16Conan O'Brien?

  And then you blow dust off them when you take them out. This gummy was from 1844. It was owned by James K. Polk.

• 6:26Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. Can you imagine a gummy sommelier coming to your table?

• 6:30Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 6:30Conan O'Brien?

  And he's talking to you about what you want. He's thinking and then he brings you a tiny, tiny little shred of gummy.

• 6:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:36Conan O'Brien?

  For the tasting.

• 6:36Speaker 01

  For the tasting. And then you swish it around in your mouth.

• 6:39Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, and then you spit it out and then he slaps you. I don't know. I just picture you going, and him slapping you. It's just, it's part of the tradition.

• 6:49Speaker 01

  That's not how sommeliers work.

• 6:50Conan O'Brien?

  Anyway, this is, um, this was, I believe, Matt, if I'm correct, this was your brainchild.

• 6:54Speaker 03

  I suppose so.

• 6:54Conan O'Brien?

  And, uh, I like this. I think it's fascinating. It's real. Shit's gonna get real.

• 7:00Speaker 03

  How do you think it's gonna go? Like, what do you, what do you think, uh, are we gonna make it through this? Is it gonna be just lighthearted or are we gonna, you know?

• 7:07Speaker 01

  I think, well, Tac's nervous.

• 7:08Conan O'Brien?

  Why is he nervous? Cause first of all, uh, he is an incredibly genial, funny guy. He seems like a natural. Why would Tac be nervous?

• 7:16Speaker 01

  Because this is outside of his wheelhouse. This is weird for him. But also, you know, every time you mention him, it's either you're talking about him being responsible for Chernobyl.

• 7:26Conan O'Brien?

  No, I never said, no, wait a minute. I didn't say he was responsible. I never said he was responsible.

• 7:31Speaker 01

  You did say he was responsible.

• 7:32Conan O'Brien?

  I didn't say he was responsible. I said that he went to a, he went to a summer camp near Chernobyl.

• 7:36Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, in Ukraine.

• 7:38Conan O'Brien?

  But I never said it was his fault.

• 7:38Speaker 03

  Let me just make a note to ask him if he is indeed responsible for Chernobyl.

• 7:42Speaker 01

  If there's tape, I wanna roll it of you saying he's responsible for Ukraine. But I also don't want anyone to do work, so if we can't find the tape.

• 7:50Speaker 03

  I'm looking at you like, what the hell are you doing?

• 7:51Conan O'Brien?

  No, no, I never said that. And now I'm.

• 7:53Speaker 01

  Cause I know you did.

• 7:54Conan O'Brien?

  But guess what? Now I suspect he was.

• 7:56Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, there is a bit of a Lady Death protest.

• 7:58Conan O'Brien?

  He was playing softball near the, near Chernobyl. And, uh, he had a high fly. It went into the core reactor. Meltdown.

• 8:06Speaker 01

  This is exactly what I don't want you to do when he's here.

• 8:09Conan O'Brien?

  Then why did you bring this up?

• 8:10Speaker 01

  Because I'm laying out rules to make him comfortable.

• 8:12Conan O'Brien?

  Don't tell me what I can't do because then I'll do it.

• 8:14Speaker 01

  Okay, but you.

• 8:15Conan O'Brien?

  It's like when I read ads on the show.

• 8:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:17Conan O'Brien?

  They always give me three sheets that say, don't say this product will kill you. Don't say this product was responsible for the deaths of ten. And I'm thinking, why are they, that would never have occurred to me, but now that they've put it in my head.

• 8:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:30Conan O'Brien?

  Tic tacs are murderers.

• 8:32Speaker 01

  I don't say, I don't want you to say chop when you talk about karate. Like, I don't want you to say, oh, chop in the air. I hear you're really a chopper.

• 8:40Conan O'Brien?

  He's a karate champion. He just got his black belt. And I've just always pictured him saying, I chop, I chop you, as he chops.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  I know. Can you just not say the word chop when you talk about karate? What is wrong with you?

• 8:52Conan O'Brien?

  You brought, what? You keep putting these things in my head that you tell me not to think about.

• 8:56Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 8:56Conan O'Brien?

  And it's like that episode where Germans come and stay at faulty towers and, and they keep saying to John, please, don't mention the war. And it's like, at the end, he loses his mind and starts goose stepping around the dining room. That's what you're doing right now. You're planting this in my head, so stop it.

• 9:14Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 9:15Conan O'Brien?

  Just stop it.

• 9:15Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 9:16Conan O'Brien?

  I love Tac. He's really funny.

• 9:17Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 9:18Conan O'Brien?

  He's multi-talented.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 9:19Conan O'Brien?

  He's a superstar.

• 9:20Speaker 01

  Agreed.

• 9:21Conan O'Brien?

  I've always said that you and Tac are the JFK and Jackie of the Armenian set. You really are. You're a glamorous, cool couple.

• 9:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, that makes sense.

• 9:28Conan O'Brien?

  Who's a cooler Armenian couple than you guys?

• 9:31Speaker 01

  There's a lot of really cool ones.

• 9:32Conan O'Brien?

  Probably. I just haven't looked into it.

• 9:35Speaker 01

  I don't think you know a lot.

• 9:36Conan O'Brien?

  Now, okay, so I think he's gonna be great.

• 9:38Speaker 01

  I think he is too.

• 9:39Conan O'Brien?

  I really do, and I'm a massive fan of his. Matt, let's talk about, I mean, first of all, you've this beautiful wife, very talented. Amanda has, she's a performer. She's a natural. I think that she'd be built for this.

• 9:52Speaker 03

  Oh, I think so. She's very breezy and comfortable in these situations. I think she'll have a blast with Tac and Liza. She's done many podcasts of her own. We're some kind of weird podcasting family.

• 10:03Conan O'Brien?

  I think there's a good chance, now that I'm thinking about Tac, thinking about Amanda, Liza is incredibly smart and funny. I'm thinking now that they will replace us.

• 10:15Speaker 03

  That's what I was saying. There's a real danger of losing this.

• 10:18Conan O'Brien?

  This is, was stupid. I wish we had married dunderheads and idiots.

• 10:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:24Conan O'Brien?

  You know what I mean?

• 10:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:25Conan O'Brien?

  Just, uh, this was a mistake.

• 10:27Speaker 03

  I think, I think you might be right.

• 10:28Conan O'Brien?

  But we've announced it. It's going to happen. And I also believe in the freedom of the marketplace. Pure capitalism. If we can't hang on to this podcast, we deserve to lose it.

• 10:39Speaker 03

  But maybe it's the perfect plan because we lose it, but the money still stays in the family. And we don't have to work. You know what I mean?

• 10:47Conan O'Brien?

  I'm pretty sure my wife would immediately set up a separate account.

• 10:52Conan O'Brien?

  Liza comes from Scottish. They are very, her dad is super smart, frugal.

• 10:59Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I think she's would start.

• 11:00Speaker 01

  What are you saying about the Scottish? I'm curious.

• 11:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:03Conan O'Brien?

  Don't you know this old saw about the Scottish? They're, they're, oh, they're quite tight with their money. They're very careful with their money, and that's a compliment. They're really, they can make their money last a very long time.

• 11:12Speaker 01

  Oh, good for them.

• 11:13Conan O'Brien?

  That's a famous old stereotype. And if it's old, if there's a stereotype that's a really old one, and it's about white people, you're allowed to have fun with it.

• 11:22Speaker 03

  That's true. That's true.

• 11:23Conan O'Brien?

  Boy, those Scottish people are cheap.

• 11:25Speaker 03

  Amanda's very frugal too, so she might, she's the frugal one in our family.

• 11:29Conan O'Brien?

  And she's got some Scotch blood in her. I can really double down on this. Because whoa, I'm gonna get sued by some Scottish guy?

• 11:36Speaker 03

  Of a country?

• 11:36Conan O'Brien?

  What, are they gonna come after me? I don't think so.

• 11:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, with his kill.

• 11:39Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, the cast of Trainspotting is after me. What am I gonna do? And by the way, we won't even understand them in court.

• 11:49Speaker 03

  Now they're, now they're coming.

• 11:51Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 11:51Speaker 03

  Now they're coming after.

• 11:52Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 11:53Conan O'Brien?

  They try and sneak up. Oh, I'm more, I'm not worried about them coming because they'll try and sneak up on me. They'll drop their bagpipes. I'll know they're, you always know they're coming 20 minutes beforehand. Anyway.

• 12:04Speaker 03

  Who had this Scottish slander on their bingo card for this episode?

• 12:08Speaker 01

  I loved your Scottish accent.

• 12:09Conan O'Brien?

  I'm telling you, this is my new rule. If it's about a white group of people who, you know, have been around for thousands and thousands of years, go to town.

• 12:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:19Conan O'Brien?

  Those Lutherans.

• 12:22Speaker 03

  Well, don't get me started on the Welsh.

• 12:34Conan O'Brien?

  This fall, I want to try something different.

• 12:36Speaker 01

  What?

• 12:37Conan O'Brien?

  I like to change it up. I like to learn things, so I'm gonna try and make apple cider.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 12:41Conan O'Brien?

  Every morning.

• 12:41Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 12:42Conan O'Brien?

  This fall, just to see if I can do it.

• 12:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:44Conan O'Brien?

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• 12:48Speaker 01

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• 12:49Conan O'Brien?

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• 12:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:50Conan O'Brien?

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• 12:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:54Conan O'Brien?

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• 12:56Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 12:56Conan O'Brien?

  True story. Plus, T-Mobile has got off-grid satellite coverage. That comes in really handy. I like to just wander in the woods sometimes.

• 13:03Speaker 01

  Oh, that's weird.

• 13:04Conan O'Brien?

  When I'm thinking about, like, making apple cider, and that's when it comes in handy. Here's another reason. High-speed data in over 215 countries and destinations. I travel a lot for the

• 13:13Speaker 01

  You travel a lot.

• 13:13Conan O'Brien?

  Travel show that I do.

• 13:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:15Conan O'Brien?

  Stream this podcast while ignoring local landmarks. That's always fun to do. Like, oh, look, there's the Mona Lisa. Yeah, check it out. I'm in the Louvre. I should, but I'm listening to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend.

• 13:25Speaker 01

  That doesn't seem like a good idea.

• 13:27Conan O'Brien?

  I think it's a great idea.

• 13:28Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 13:28Conan O'Brien?

  You know, you can see art anytime. But how often can you listen to this podcast?

• 13:33Speaker 01

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• 13:34Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. Now, all these reasons make T-Mobile a great choice.

• 13:38Speaker 01

  I agree.

• 13:38Conan O'Brien?

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• 14:02Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 14:07Conan O'Brien?

  We all have those pieces in our closet we can count on. Sona, I imagine for you it's that leather jacket I got you.

• 14:13Speaker 01

  Are you gonna do a bit?

• 14:14Conan O'Brien?

  No, no, it's a really nice leather jacket I got you once.

• 14:16Speaker 01

  I had that and then I replaced it, and yes, I use it all the time.

• 14:19Conan O'Brien?

  We all have that versatile jacket, the perfect t-shirt, and those are the pieces that make getting dressed easy. And you know what I was thinking about this morning?

• 14:28Speaker 01

  What?

• 14:29Conan O'Brien?

  Quince. They do it best. They really do. I was really thinking about this.

• 14:32Speaker 01

  What a coincidence that we're doing an ad for them.

• 14:34Conan O'Brien?

  No, a co-coincidence.

• 14:36Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 14:39Conan O'Brien?

  That's why I get the big money.

• 14:40Speaker 01

  I gotta go.

• 14:41Conan O'Brien?

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• 15:00Speaker 04

  That's right. I'm spending a lot of time back east in Michigan. It's getting a little colder, so I got a featherless quilted jacket, an Atlas Navy, and I just feel like a different guy. I feel classy.

• 15:10Conan O'Brien?

  You, you look like a different guy.

• 15:12Speaker 04

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• 15:13Conan O'Brien?

  That's right.

• 15:13Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 15:14Speaker 04

  No, I'm serious. He looks like a hobo half the time.

• 15:16Conan O'Brien?

  That's true. He's right. That's true.

• 15:17Speaker 04

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• 15:19Conan O'Brien?

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• 15:30Speaker 01

  All right.

• 15:31Conan O'Brien?

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• 15:40Speaker 04

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• 15:42Conan O'Brien?

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• 15:49Conan O'Brien?

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• 16:08Speaker 05

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• 16:09Conan O'Brien?

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• 16:14Speaker 05

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• 16:17Speaker 06

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• 16:22Speaker 07

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• 16:35Speaker 06

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• 16:40Speaker 06

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• 16:53Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I think this is, uh, this is a worthwhile experiment. We have fans. Also, I'm gonna bring this up.

• 16:59Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 17:00Conan O'Brien?

  People see us as just these remote figures who have unattainable fame. They look at Sona and Gorlia and myself, and they just think of us, you know, like, oh, those are like founding fathers of podcast comedy. They're unapproachable. They're up in the clouds. They're made of marble. They're too perfect. Our spouses will, for the first time, bring us to life.

• 17:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:21Conan O'Brien?

  You'll start to maybe hear about some of the foibles we have. That's right. We may have foibles. We may even have, I don't know, maybe you guys have a flaw. We might hear about some things that make us human. Bring us down from Mount Olympus, and we might, maybe breathe some life into us.

• 17:39Speaker 01

  I love how you think that. After years of listening to us, people think we're flawless.

• 17:46Conan O'Brien?

  I maintain that we have, we have held ourselves up with this impossible ideal. Do you know what I mean?

• 17:52Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 17:53Conan O'Brien?

  And so people, just people picture us like wearing togas, standing astride a cloud.

• 17:57Speaker 03

  I've never had more dirty laundry aired in my life than on this goddamn dog and pony show.

• 18:03Speaker 01

  How many times my family has been embarrassed by me? Like, just the things I've said.

• 18:08Conan O'Brien?

  Like, what I'm saying is

• 18:10Speaker 01

  We were just talking about how I get drunk a lot on summer smores. So, yeah.

• 18:14Conan O'Brien?

  That's why, I mean, we were gonna do another summer, but your counselor talked to us.

• 18:20Speaker 01

  No.

• 18:21Speaker 03

  Honestly, so did the law. Yeah, the law came.

• 18:24Speaker 01

  Oh, me, you, you?

• 18:26Speaker 03

  Well, I was just your doctor feel-good. You know, that's all.

• 18:29Conan O'Brien?

  We, um,

• 18:29Speaker 01

  You were there with me.

• 18:30Conan O'Brien?

  I am, I am excited about this. I am honestly a little bit anxious.

• 18:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:35Conan O'Brien?

  I don't know what's gonna happen. Um, and, but Liza's not gonna discuss my bedwetting. I think that's off the table.

• 18:43Speaker 03

  Who do you think will be the most candid of the three of them?

• 18:46Conan O'Brien?

  That's interesting.

• 18:46Speaker 01

  Amanda.

• 18:47Speaker 03

  You think so?

• 18:48Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 18:48Speaker 03

  Hmm, yeah. I was thinking maybe Liza, but maybe not.

• 18:50Conan O'Brien?

  Liza will be very candid.

• 18:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:52Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, and I think she may see this as, you know, summer spouses, the revenge.

• 18:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, time to get some things on record.

• 18:59Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah. She may see this as a, a chance.

• 19:02Speaker 03

  What if this ends up becoming some, like, admissible evidence in court somehow? You know what I mean?

• 19:06Speaker 01

  Why would it be in court?

• 19:07Speaker 03

  Well, like, we're getting divorce proceedings.

• 19:09Conan O'Brien?

  The Scots are taking us to court.

• 19:11Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 19:11Conan O'Brien?

  So all of Scotland is taking me in. Um, and, uh, you know, but, you know, I think I can handle them.

• 19:18Speaker 01

  No one will understand them.

• 19:19Conan O'Brien?

  Walking around in their dresses.

• 19:21Speaker 01

  Dresses. Conan. Oh, my God.

• 19:25Conan O'Brien?

  I'm a tartan.

• 19:27Speaker 03

  I am Scottish. I don't even know why I'm sitting here taking this, you know?

• 19:30Conan O'Brien?

  Because you're just

• 19:32Speaker 01

  What are you gonna do?

• 19:32Conan O'Brien?

  What is your, by the way, what is your, yeah, what is your genetic makeup? And that's a fair question to ask people.

• 19:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:39Conan O'Brien?

  What are you made of? Are you, how much, how Scotch are you? Because Liza, I think, is, she's a good dose of Scottish. She's like half Sco- Well, I think she's a mixture of Scottish, Welsh. Well, she'll tell us. What am I doing? She'll tell us.

• 19:50Speaker 03

  I'm Scots-Irish, which is really mostly Scottish, and then English for the most part.

• 19:55Conan O'Brien?

  So you have a tiny bit of Irish?

• 19:57Speaker 03

  I have, I think it was like 16 or 20% Irish.

• 20:00Speaker 01

  So exotic.

• 20:01Conan O'Brien?

  That's hilarious to me. Yeah, yeah.

• 20:03Speaker 03

  I know.

• 20:03Speaker 01

  Eduardo's laughing the hardest.

• 20:05Speaker 03

  I know.

• 20:06Conan O'Brien?

  To me, it is. When you're 100.000% Irish.

• 20:10Speaker 03

  I know.

• 20:11Conan O'Brien?

  And this guy comes in, I'm like, whoa, it's a Rastafarian.

• 20:17Conan O'Brien?

  Hey, man.

• 20:19Conan O'Brien?

  An exotic blend of Welsh, Irish, Scottish, three villages that were eight miles from each other.

• 20:32Conan O'Brien?

  Basically, you're describing a bog. That's what you're describing. I'm looking forward to this. I think it's gonna be good. Now, here's the big question. Who's looking after kids? My kids are in their late 50s. That is not a concern for us.

• 20:43Speaker 03

  This was a big thing for us. I don't know about you, but both my girls are coming here. And luckily, Adam's daughter is going to play with my oldest daughter, Glenn. And then Sarah, who's also been on the Summer Smores series before, along with Amanda.

• 20:56Conan O'Brien?

  Let's give your daughter a shout out. She's doing good. Adam, speak up.

• 20:59Speaker 03

  Yes, Golda, my 11-year-old daughter, loves, loves, loves little kids. She's gotten to hang out with Glenn before, and like, she's just in heaven when she gets to play with little kids. Oh, Glenn loves Golda. We had a little bit of a crisis moment. We were trying to figure out how do we, how do we make sure that everyone has their kids handled? And I was like, oh, I asked Golda, would you wanna, you know, come to the office and play with Glenn? And she like flipped out. She was like, so it worked out for everybody.

• 21:26Conan O'Brien?

  And then my sister-in-law Sarah's watching our six-month-old. Here. I have a private detective watching my kids. Who are on the East Coast right now. But he, he's, you know, keeps a safe distance. And, and Sona, what have you arranged for childcare? What are those monsters up to?

• 21:41Speaker 01

  Well, you know, you know, we have very involved grandparents.

• 21:43Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, I know.

• 21:44Speaker 01

  So I went to drop my boys off at my parents' house, and I thought it was just gonna be my dad. And it was my dad, my mom, and my in-laws. So they heard the boys were gonna be there, and they just came to the house. The boys are, we got a two-to-one ratio right now with the boys.

• 21:58Conan O'Brien?

  Which is what you need with those kids now.

• 22:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, oh, my god.

• 22:01Conan O'Brien?

  Mikey and Charlie are, I mean, they're a force to be reckoned with.

• 22:04Speaker 01

  They are. They're just non-stop. It's just like constant energy. I can't keep up anymore. I'm done. I'm gonna, I'm gonna call it.

• 22:11Conan O'Brien?

  You're gonna call it?

• 22:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm just gonna...

• 22:12Conan O'Brien?

  You're tapping out?

• 22:13Speaker 01

  I'm tapping out. I think I'm done.

• 22:14Conan O'Brien?

  That's okay. Look, they love you. They'll swing by occasionally. They'll say hi.

• 22:18Speaker 03

  This is the third reason we're going to court.

• 22:20Conan O'Brien?

  All right, so what happens now? Do I have more business to, to, to lay out here?

• 22:24Speaker 01

  Do we have questions to ask them? Are we going into this with a plan, or are we, are we doing a Summer Smores way, baby?

• 22:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, man. Yeah, man. We've, we've given them some content for their episode alone. Figuring we're seasoned podcasting professionals. Like you said, podcasting...

• 22:41Conan O'Brien?

  I mean, I think we're killing it right now. I went on a 30-minute Scottish rant.

• 22:48Conan O'Brien?

  Talked about how Tac maybe had hit a softball with a Chernobyl. Other than that, I mean, I, this is good stuff. This is solid stuff. I'm gonna say this is grade A chop right now. Chop beef.

• 22:58Speaker 03

  Get it out.

• 22:59Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 22:59Speaker 03

  Get it out.

• 23:00Conan O'Brien?

  Does he ever, when he's striking someone with his karate hands, say, "I chop you, I chop you"?

• 23:04Speaker 01

  No, he does not say, "I chop you." You've asked this before.

• 23:06Conan O'Brien?

  Can I say something? When I watch World Cup, and you've seen this, Eduardo, you and I have watched some World Cup games together. All I do is narrate the people playing, and all they're saying is, "I kick it. Now I kick it. I kick. I kick. I kick."

• 23:18Speaker 01

  Isn't it awful watching with it?

• 23:19Speaker 03

  Now I've, I've grown to like it.

• 23:21Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 23:21Speaker 01

  What?

• 23:22Conan O'Brien?

  And also, when the ball's in the air and they're doing headers, I go, boing, boing, boing.

• 23:27Speaker 01

  No, you don't like this.

• 23:27Speaker 03

  I do. This is the second world.

• 23:30Conan O'Brien?

  And you know what? If someone watches soccer with me, or as, I like to call it, because I'm a citizen of the world of football. I make all these noises, and I narrate different guys in different voices saying, "I kick, I kick. Now I kick. I kick. I kick back. I kick." I do that, and I know later on, when they're watching it alone, my voice comes into their heads sometimes. Has that happened yet, Eduardo?

• 23:50Speaker 03

  I don't think it's happened yet.

• 23:52Conan O'Brien?

  Well, you just need more time with me. More time with me.

• 23:56Speaker 01

  Oh, the World Cup is over.

• 23:58Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, don't worry. They're gonna have more of these matches.

• 24:00Speaker 01

  No, there's no more soccer.

• 24:02Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, it ends now?

• 24:03Speaker 01

  It's all done.

• 24:04Speaker 03

  You're calling that too?

• 24:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm calling, I'm calling soccer too. So we're good.

• 24:08Conan O'Brien?

  This is, um, you know, this is a, a worthy moment for our podcast. We're gonna become real human figures, not the remote Greek gods you've known to love.

• 24:18Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 24:19Conan O'Brien?

  And I think, I think fear to some degree. You'll see us as flesh and blood for the first time. You know? And, um, don't act like you're bored with my speech. This is a good speech.

• 24:27Speaker 01

  Is it a good speech?

• 24:28Conan O'Brien?

  It's a really good speech.

• 24:29Speaker 03

  Repeat of, you know? When we just heard 10 minutes ago.

• 24:32Conan O'Brien?

  I looped around. I thought I'd give you another pass at it.

• 24:36Speaker 03

  Why don't you read this speech?

• 24:38Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, okay. He's handing me the rap sign right now. Okay, we're going to, um, we're gonna wind this down, but you've gotta stay tuned next week, because that's when the fun really begins. Tell us what's gonna happen in that episode.

• 24:51Speaker 03

  First up is my wife, Amanda.

• 24:54Conan O'Brien?

  Amanda. And would you like to give her last name?

• 24:56Speaker 03

  Lund.

• 24:57Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 24:57Speaker 01

  Did she take your last name?

• 24:59Speaker 03

  She did legally.

• 25:00Conan O'Brien?

  She took it and then threw it back. Like, when a dog eats some soap accidentally, it spits it out?

• 25:08Conan O'Brien?

  She took it for eight seconds and then went, bloop.

• 25:17Conan O'Brien?

  A Gourley came out and rattled on the floor, like some rusty keychain. Bloop, clang. That's a beautiful name. Not that Gourley isn't a beautiful name.

• 25:28Speaker 03

  Oh, her name, yeah.

• 25:29Conan O'Brien?

  It's much better.

• 25:29Speaker 03

  It is.

• 25:30Conan O'Brien?

  Liza, I'm gonna say this in Liza's defense. She has a beautiful name. Liza Powell, and, um, with one L, because she's, comes from this storied family, uh, Philadelphia, the Revolution. You know, she's related to like these historic figures, and, and then I was like, well, guess what? Now you're O'Brien.

• 25:52Speaker 01

  Let's throw a punctuation in there.

• 25:54Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, let's throw some punctuation in there. It never comes up right on a hotel reservation. We're sorry, we don't have you here. Try the, try an apostrophe. Nope, our computer doesn't take apostrophes. Or Irish.

• 26:08Conan O'Brien?

  So stay tuned, because, uh, next week, Matt, Amanda's coming to town. And we're gonna find out some stuff.

• 26:15Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 26:16Conan O'Brien?

  Stay tuned. Summer spouses, summer S'pouses.

• 26:22Speaker 01

  It's not better.

• 26:22Conan O'Brien?

  On the way.

• 26:23Speaker 01

  It's not better.

• 26:24Conan O'Brien?

  It's much better.

• 26:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's awful.

• 26:25Conan O'Brien?

  I win.

• 26:26Speaker 01

  It's not a terrible.

• 26:26Conan O'Brien?

  It's more as bad.

• 26:27Speaker 01

  It's terrible.

• 26:27Conan O'Brien?

  Quiet. You're fired.

• 26:28Speaker 01

  Terrible.

• 26:29Conan O'Brien?

  I win.

• 26:30Speaker 01

  Really?

• 26:31Conan O'Brien?

  Cutting the mics in three, two, one.

• 26:36Speaker 03

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• 26:56Speaker 03

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• 28:00Speaker 01

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• 28:00Conan O'Brien?

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  No, but maybe...

• 28:03Conan O'Brien?

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