Kid Rock | Club Random with Bill Maher

In this episode, Bill reconnects with rock-rap icon Kid Rock for his second round on Club Random—unpacking how they both manage to stay raw and honest in a world that loves to be outraged. Kid Rock talks about why he thought a Bud Light blow-up might be fun for social media. He also teases a new triple album (“Kid MF Rock”), wrestles with “woke” culture’s boundaries, and tries to sell Bill on the idea of finally meeting Donald Trump—complete with a tongue-in-cheek pitch for Elon Musk to carve Trump’s face onto Mount Rushmore. Bill, meanwhile, pushes back on Kid’s defense of Trump—especially around election denial—yet they bond over hating hypocrisy in both parties, not missing shows, and embracing the backlash that comes from speaking your mind. It’s a no-filter chat with two guys who, despite their differences, can’t help but find plenty of common ground. Use promo code RANDOM at https://www.goldennuggetcasino.com Take advantage of Ridge’s once-a-year anniversary sale and get UP TO 40% Off right now by going to https://www. Ridge.com/RANDOM #Ridgepod #ad Follow Club Random on IG: @ClubRandomPodcast Follow Bill on IG: @BillMaher Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/ClubRandom Watch Club Random on YouTube: https://bit.ly/ClubRandomYouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:01Speaker 01

  Do you want to hear about my vasectomy?

• 1:02Bill Maher?

  I do.

• 1:03Speaker 01

  I can't believe I'm going to admit this on whatever we're on. Is, uh...

• 1:10Bill Maher?

  I just want to picture this. It's 5:30. Trump calls you. He asks you what you're wearing.

• 1:16Speaker 01

  The ever comedian Bill. I like it.

• 1:20Bill Maher?

  I need a drink. I had that asshole kid rock on. Oh.

• 1:27Speaker 01

  Biggest ratings ever.

• 1:29Bill Maher?

  Um, it'll do well. You always do well.

• 1:32Speaker 01

  People like the truth, man.

• 1:33Bill Maher?

  Yeah. I mean, not everybody sees what you're saying as the truth. I'm, please.

• 1:38Speaker 01

  People like your own, even if it's your own truth. People like real. People like real.

• 1:41Bill Maher?

  I think that is one thing people would say about us, even people who don't like us, that we're not liars.

• 1:47Speaker 01

  That's, that's why I like you.

• 1:48Bill Maher?

  Yeah, that's why I like you.

• 1:49Speaker 01

  You've been awfully kind to me through the years, you know, to start there, but, you know. Of course, I don't like when you're talking shit about my boy, but that's, that's one thing.

• 1:57Bill Maher?

  But, you know, we have to, we, but...

• 1:59Speaker 01

  But at least it's a truth. That, you know?

• 2:02Bill Maher?

  It's...

• 2:03Speaker 01

  So many people sugarcoat this shit. You know how Hollywood works and their publicists and I'm in crisis mode. I'm like, just give me the phone, I'll talk.

• 2:10Bill Maher?

  And people have to have the capacity to not see it the same way and then go on to the next subject.

• 2:19Speaker 01

  Bingo.

• 2:19Bill Maher?

  Not obsessed, and this is, see, you, I think you don't have to live with this as much as I do. I mean, that is probably my biggest beef with the left, and you know, I do not couch my criticisms of them. Uh, and that's why I have such a hard time out here, because there's such purists out here. And they will not countenance any diversion from the one true opinion as they see it. So I am insufficiently liberal for them. I had somebody who was very woke here one day and, and I said, you know, we voted for the same person. The difference is you're why she lost.

• 3:00Bill Maher?

  Because that's the kind of face that a lot of Americans see on that sort of authoritarianism of the left. Which I know is what animates you a lot. And it's not that it's not there.

• 3:17Speaker 01

  And the pendulum just swings too far and it gets stuck.

• 3:20Bill Maher?

  Exactly.

• 3:21Speaker 01

  And it goes back the other way and it just doesn't have time to go like this.

• 3:25Bill Maher?

  No. Well, then are you admitting that it's gone too far with where we are now?

• 3:31Speaker 01

  No, not at all. No, I think, I think, I think DC needs a cleansing and it's, and it's getting.

• 3:37Bill Maher?

  Yeah, but not the way they're doing it. It's very.

• 3:40Speaker 01

  I think it's yet to be seen. I think it's too early.

• 3:43Bill Maher?

  Well, I mean, today they had to go back on, uh, firing all the people who maintain the nuclear weapons.

• 3:51Speaker 01

  All right, let's start there, right? So I don't know, I don't know much about that. I don't know how much you know about it, but, but just a little common sense would tell me that maybe, just maybe, I don't know. I'd have to make a couple of phone calls. The technology has probably changed significantly, significantly since, let's say, the eighties. If they needed, you know, 10 people to look over a bomb, they might only need two now. I don't know. But I think it's a reasonable thought.

• 4:17Bill Maher?

  It is a reasonable thought. It is a reasonable thought, and by the way, to back it up.

• 4:23Bill Maher?

  What has come out of some of this is something that Democrats also have been complaining about for years, that when you say, "They must have updated..." No, a lot of times they haven't.

• 4:35Speaker 01

  Shit.

• 4:36Bill Maher?

  Like, I can't, was it the FBI?

• 4:38Speaker 01

  They're still using a typewriter?

• 4:39Bill Maher?

  Yeah, somebody was using, no, that's not an exaggeration. Somebody was still using something that was, and you'd think-

• 4:45Speaker 01

  Well, they're in that cave in Pennsylvania, writing stuff out, like, for retirement or something, whatever that thing was. Like, a limestone cave in Pennsylvania or something, they're doing it, like, "We can only do 10,000, you know, a month, like, retirement, whatever."

• 5:00Bill Maher?

  Like monks.

• 5:01Speaker 01

  And they're like, down there, like, it's like, "Who the fuck is supposed to be watching this shit? Our politicians, right?"

• 5:08Bill Maher?

  No, I mean, I've been on that page. I mean, I, every time I criticize them for the way they're doing it, I'm careful to make the point, "It needs to be done." I said at the end of last year, "This country needs a colonic. I just wouldn't choose them to do it." And I think I'm right about that, because their idea of a colonic is to take a fucking jackhammer and stick it up your ass. And that's not the way I want my colonic done.

• 5:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think a lot of politicians deserve that colonic, that jackhammer up the ass.

• 5:39Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 5:40Speaker 01

  I mean, you know, just what's coming out, you know, it's like, how, I don't care if it's Republicans or Democrats. I mean, for years, it's just been like the status quo. And like, all this shit's just going on, and nobody thought to take a fucking peek at it with our tax dollars?

• 5:54Bill Maher?

  No, I mean, Clinton, you remember the 90s, I know you do.

• 5:58Speaker 01

  Vaguely.

• 5:59Bill Maher?

  Because I, yeah, because I remember when the records, that's when you first blew up.

• 6:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:05Bill Maher?

  Clinton did very much, at least rhetorically, and also gave people the same thing Musk did, except back then it wasn't eight months' pay, it was $25,000 if you'll fucking-

• 6:19Speaker 01

  I never had a huge problem with Clinton, like-

• 6:21Bill Maher?

  No, I'm just saying that this is not new. And Al Gore was put in head of this department of, it was basically Doge, it was Al Gore's Doge, it was like, yes- Government is wasteful and fraudulent and inefficient and we have to do something about it.

• 6:37Speaker 01

  Why'd they do?

• 6:38Bill Maher?

  Nothing, that's what I'm saying. No, I, I get it. So that's why this is politically feasible to people. That's why at least they're giving it a chance. They're saying, yeah, forever they've been saying that they're gonna do this. And now some motherfuckers are in there who don't give a shit about, who likes them or how they look, which is why people like.

• 6:56Speaker 01

  I can relate.

• 6:57Bill Maher?

  I can too. That's, it's, it's the great irony. I had a billboard up just last week for the new season. And the catchphrase is, he's not in it for the likes.

• 7:08Speaker 01

  That's good.

• 7:09Bill Maher?

  Yeah, it is good because

• 7:12Bill Maher?

  the irony-

• 7:13Speaker 01

  The likes and the clicks and views.

• 7:14Bill Maher?

  Yeah, the irony that, uh, you know, people like you when you don't care if they like you.

• 7:22Speaker 01

  Well, I think it goes back to just being real. You know, it's just being real. And I think it's some, luckily somehow I figured it out and you must have too. When you were, when we were both a lot younger, that's like,

• 7:34Speaker 01

  fuck, you know, the real, I figured it out when I was young and I was trying to fit in into the black communities I was hanging in, you know, crafting my trade and like, you know, wearing troop suits and shit. And you know, people just basically thought I was an idiot, which I was. And I just started being myself at a really young age, wearing my little skateboard shit and this and the other. I was a good DJ.

• 7:55Speaker 01

  And people just liked me more because I was myself. And I learned that very young and just took that with me.

• 8:00Bill Maher?

  To me, this is the big mistake that white people make about black people. Because usually the super lefties who are way more liberal in polling shows this than the average black person. Black person, whoever is way to the-

• 8:15Speaker 01

  We just saw that in the election. I mean, Trump got more than a black vote. And I was actually talking to him about it, um, before he did the inauguration speech. I was like, sir, you know, don't forget like, you know,

• 8:26Speaker 01

  It was actually kind of funny that, you know, you don't, that you got the biggest black vote in the history of conservative party, like this, that and the other, you know? Make sure you touch on that, you know? I was talking to some of my black friends about it, this, that and the other. And he did. He touched on it and, you know, that, that excites me.

• 8:43Bill Maher?

  He still got-

• 8:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, you don't-

• 8:45Bill Maher?

  Yeah, he got more than any Republican since Nixon. Uh, more than his first time. He still got creamed.

• 8:52Speaker 01

  Of course, the population grows, so there's more voters.

• 8:55Bill Maher?

  Yeah. Well, no, but we're talking about percentages.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:57Bill Maher?

  He did better. He still got creamed in the black cloth. Let's not pretend he didn't. But, okay, but the thing I was gonna say is that, uh, the, you know, the far lefty woke types, I don't think they really actually have any black friends, probably.

• 9:16Speaker 01

  They don't. I see this in the fucking music business all the time.

• 9:18Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 9:19Speaker 01

  These motherfucking lefties and they're like, think they're gonna be this big black savior. And it's like, you're a fucking idiot. Like, you just don't fucking understand, you know?

• 9:27Bill Maher?

  Because I think if they, if they actually knew black people, what they would understand is, see, they think in their social justice warrior head-

• 9:34Speaker 01

  They know a black musician who plays in a band.

• 9:37Bill Maher?

  They know of a black musician.

• 9:38Speaker 01

  Who's this, that and the other. They don't, they don't know the streets. They don't, they don't know, you know, fucking-

• 9:41Bill Maher?

  No.

• 9:41Speaker 01

  I'm not gonna say real black people, this, that and the other, but, you know-

• 9:44Bill Maher?

  No, in their social justice warrior head, the most important thing they think, uh, think to black people is that we're allies, we're, and I think black people, you know, I'm just, again, just, uh, extrapolating from the black people I talk to and I know, they're a lot more cynical about it. They're like, oh, please, that, we don't, we don't trust any white people fully. And who can blame them? So just because you're a liberal Democrat, doesn't mean we think you'd-

• 10:12Speaker 01

  I've never heard any black person don't trust white people. Now, they might drive into a certain community and be like, oh, I'm fucking around here because they're gonna fucking lynch my ass. You know what I mean? Shit like that, like when they're driving in a nice neighborhood or something.

• 10:24Bill Maher?

  No, I'm just saying, they don't have this great, uh, belief that the liberals are, are so much better or really care more. And it's like, yeah, you know, look at, look at cities, like they're run by Democrats, but they don't seem to actually help with the problems that blacks are having in cities. You know.

• 10:42Speaker 01

  No.

• 10:43Bill Maher?

  I mean, sometimes they do, and certainly they try, their heart's in the right place. But their programs very often seem to get in the way of themselves. What I was gonna say is like, no, I think what my friends at least, what they care most about is, who keeps it real? Not who's your ally? Who's keeps it real? That, to me, is the currency. So even if they don't agree with you, they, they respect that. And.

• 11:12Speaker 01

  I find that every day. People that approach me and say whatever to me, you know, if I'm out and about in public, which I always am. Find it all the time.

• 11:20Bill Maher?

  What do they say to you?

• 11:24Speaker 01

  You should, you know, black people?

• 11:26Bill Maher?

  Any people. But yeah, what do black people say to you?

• 11:30Speaker 01

  Say a lot of different things, but I mean, you know, people that are real, people that are real, just like you're sitting here talking to me and we're gonna have a good conversation and, you know, I would dare say we've become friends is that, you know.

• 11:42Bill Maher?

  I hope so.

• 11:43Speaker 01

  We have different opinions on a lot of things, but we both have our truths and those are, you know, we keep it real with each other and we can speak about this shit and we can find some things in common.

• 11:53Bill Maher?

  And I don't think, and I don't think you're a bad guy, and I don't think you're a racist, which liberals do, they think you're a terrible racist.

• 11:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, white woke liberals think I'm a racist.

• 12:01Bill Maher?

  Yes, they do.

• 12:02Speaker 01

  Fuck yeah, then to them, fuck yeah, I am, fuck them.

• 12:05Bill Maher?

  Well, that's, and like.

• 12:07Speaker 01

  I'd rather just fucking horn dog into them and be like, yeah.

• 12:09Bill Maher?

  How did, I mean, when I was, when we were in the 90s, it was the conservatives who had the stick up their ass. Now it's the other way around, like your song, I was quoting it on the show tonight, Low Life. I quoted the great line about.

• 12:23Speaker 01

  I got kids I've never seen and their mom is 17.

• 12:27Bill Maher?

  But the other one is like.

• 12:29Speaker 01

  My friend John Eddie wrote that.

• 12:30Bill Maher?

  I owe everybody money, I think racist jokes are funny. Now, that's something that, to a lot of people out here in Hollywood, that is over the line. To even make that joke.

• 12:41Speaker 01

  Which is why movies have gotten so shitty. I was, I was like, who's gonna make Step Brothers or something again? Like, everybody's dancing around, you know, as a comedian scared to fucking say this and that. It's like, no wonder, everything got so shitty, it's not funny anymore.

• 12:54Bill Maher?

  Now, I think this is more, much more of a generational thing than a racial thing. I think there is a, a generation, not ours, the one, the one or two, maybe two after us, Gen Z especially, that came after us. Where sort of everything is predicated on what triggers you, what you're offended by.

• 13:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, we start asking children at a young age, like, how does that make you feel? Shut the fuck up. Like, how does that make you feel? We coddled these fucking kids, you know, like I was saying on the show, like, too long and did too much, like, you know, you don't want to be the bad parent that says, you know, go, go ride your bike without a helmet. Come back and when you broke your fucking arm, you know, it's okay. You know what I mean? But God forbid something happens to your kid, then you're the fucking bad parent.

• 13:43Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 13:44Speaker 01

  You're the terrible one. It's like, fuck.

• 13:46Bill Maher?

  No, you can't actually ever enunciate this to people because they would just kick you in the teeth. But the truth is that a certain of them are going to die. I mean, certain number of kids. It's amazing how we've gotten that number down. It wasn't that long ago historically. I'm talking only like a hundred or maybe 200 years ago where

• 14:10Speaker 01

  That seems like a long time to me.

• 14:12Bill Maher?

  In the of human history? It's a blink of an eye.

• 14:15Speaker 01

  It's like a long time.

• 14:16Bill Maher?

  It's a couple of generations, a few generations. But before that, you know how many children used to die like before the age of five? About half.

• 14:26Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 14:26Bill Maher?

  You only had a 50/50 chance to get out of toddler world. You know, you got kicked by a horse or, you know, you

• 14:35Speaker 01

  It's got the smallpox.

• 14:36Bill Maher?

  Your parents, yeah, that or your parents had 12 kids and they forgot about you or whatever the fuck it was. But, you know, kids have no idea how good they have it. But I also do wish

• 14:51Speaker 01

  That's probably what our parents thought about us too, right?

• 14:53Bill Maher?

  And they were right.

• 14:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:55Bill Maher?

  It's amazing they think

• 14:57Speaker 01

  It's relevant every generation.

• 14:59Bill Maher?

  Are you a boomer? No, you're not old enough to, you're Gen X. Gen X.

• 15:03Speaker 01

  I don't know what they all are. I, I consider myself Gen Awesome.

• 15:09Bill Maher?

  Okay, Charlie Sheen.

• 15:12Bill Maher?

  Get him his tiger blood.

• 15:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:15Bill Maher?

  It's running low.

• 15:15Speaker 01

  Bring that shit on.

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• 16:18Bill Maher?

  I hope we have enough... Oh, what are you... Are you on Drinking Coors Light? Is that a joke? Did somebody do that?

• 16:25Speaker 01

  No, they just... That's what was there. I'm drinking it.

• 16:28Bill Maher?

  Oh. But you're... So you made up with them? Or actually, they made up with you.

• 16:32Speaker 01

  You're talking about Bud Light?

• 16:35Bill Maher?

  Oh, it was Bud Light, yes.

• 16:36Speaker 01

  Keep smoking it. Keep smoking them funny cigarettes, Billy.

• 16:44Bill Maher?

  Yeah. Oh, right, Bud Light. But I saw that their Super Bowl commercial was an attempt... Did you see this? To undo...

• 16:54Speaker 01

  Actually become friends with them.

• 16:56Bill Maher?

  See? That's how you handle it.

• 16:58Speaker 01

  I did. I invited them, the CEO, Brendan.

• 17:01Bill Maher?

  There you go.

• 17:02Speaker 01

  And I told them, I don't want anything from you. I'm not looking for money. Everything's fine in that department. I go... I go, let's have a... We had some mutual people. And I was like, let's have a conversation. I go... And it's not any gotcha either. Like, I'm not trying to get you there to be like, oh, fuck them, this, that, and the other.

• 17:17Bill Maher?

  No, I...

• 17:18Speaker 01

  And we actually became friends through this whole ordeal.

• 17:20Bill Maher?

  I love this story.

• 17:21Speaker 01

  They did offer some big dollars and potential for them to be in. I said, man, I just can't do that. I was like... And really, at the end of the day, since we're on it, it's like... Basically, what happened is they let they let a fox into the hen house. You know, they just weren't keeping an eye on things. And I was like, well, what do you think's gonna happen?

• 17:41Bill Maher?

  You're talking about the ad person?

• 17:43Speaker 01

  Well, for that whole Dylan Mulvaney thing, you know, there was just like, it was like a blip, but you know, it obviously blew up and all this culture war shit and everything. And it was like.

• 17:52Bill Maher?

  But what do you care if they, I don't understand why that upset you so much? Um, I don't know.

• 17:58Speaker 01

  I don't know. I'm fucking, you know, guys watch football and fucking, you know, our dudes don't want to see. This is just bad business.

• 18:07Bill Maher?

  It was that, but I did think she was adorable, I have to say.

• 18:10Speaker 01

  Oh, if you watch some of those videos, like before, whatever that turned into this, like on The Price is Right, and she was fucking hysterical.

• 18:17Bill Maher?

  There was something so innocent about her, so innocent and joyous, which which you've now killed.

• 18:27Bill Maher?

  Yes, she was just so happy to be there and like, let this kid who like probably a year ago was studying for or not even studying for some test or something in high school. And now here she is like, you know, I'm that voice of Bud Light. I get to be on TV and you're filming me and doing my hair. And it's just like, so like, I don't know why you let yourself get agitated about that, but I also get it that.

• 18:52Speaker 01

  Because it's just spur of the fucking moment. I didn't think it through.

• 18:55Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 18:55Speaker 01

  I'm just like, you know what? I keep a shit, I keep a shit ton of beer around the house, all types of beer, and Bud Light was one of them.

• 19:01Bill Maher?

  And a million rifles, so.

• 19:03Speaker 01

  Fucking got a great MP5 machine gun. And I'm like, I fucking set him up. Let's have some fun.

• 19:09Bill Maher?

  Honey, put your camera on video. I want, yeah.

• 19:13Speaker 01

  They're always telling me I need to do more social media and this. I'm like, fuck, I got one for you.

• 19:17Bill Maher?

  It's a, it, it is amazing how big that was, though. I mean, it was everywhere because it had everything. You know, it had a star. It had a point of view. It had guns.

• 19:30Speaker 01

  Had my MAGA hat on.

• 19:32Bill Maher?

  Well, of course. I don't think that added anything, but the guns.

• 19:36Speaker 01

  Oh, it did. Because you know, in the day and age, this was a day and age when people were.

• 19:40Bill Maher?

  But they already knew you were.

• 19:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, they did.

• 19:43Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 19:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course, they did. But nonetheless, still did it.

• 19:47Bill Maher?

  Yeah. I mean, I think they knew that first picture that came out where you were sucking his dick.

• 19:56Bill Maher?

  What is it like to be with him? You said today that he's funny and he's all I can imagine that.

• 20:03Speaker 01

  Dude's unbelievable, unbelievable. The more I get to know him, the more we become friends over the last eight, 10 years, whatever. I'm confident you guys would sit down and have a good time, have a laugh.

• 20:12Bill Maher?

  Everybody tells that to me. Everybody says you'd like him and he'd like you. I hope he does.

• 20:18Speaker 01

  He did. He told me one time, I told him last time I was coming to do the podcast. I said, I'm going to do Bill Maher's podcast. He's like, really? He's like, tell him I love him. And I'm like, yeah, what? I tell him I love him. I'm like, seriously? He's like, yeah, tell him.

• 20:34Bill Maher?

  If he would only get off the not conceding elections thing, we could be a lot closer.

• 20:40Speaker 01

  I mean, Bill, come on, that was, I don't know what fucking happened. You know, just because.

• 20:45Bill Maher?

  Oh, I know what happened. Joe Biden won an election. That's what happened.

• 20:48Speaker 01

  Just because, no, there was COVID going on. There was all sorts of horseshit going on. They use that as a disguise. I don't know exactly. Just because you don't, just because you don't get caught doesn't not make it a crime.

• 20:58Bill Maher?

  Bob, you'll lose me when you go there because it's been adjudicated. It's like, give up on that one.

• 21:04Speaker 01

  There's people going to fucking jail that fucking, you know, got convicted by 12 of their fucking peers. They're fucking innocent.

• 21:10Bill Maher?

  Irrelevant, irrelevant to this point and this discussion. But sweetheart, it's actually a better story this way. Because it's a trilogy. He wins the election, then there has to be an act two where the hero is wandering in the wilderness before you have act three. So it's better that he lost. Joe Biden did him a favor. He's more legendary because he came back and.

• 21:36Speaker 01

  There's no question to that.

• 21:38Bill Maher?

  Okay, so then just give up on the.

• 21:39Speaker 01

  But you've never convinced me and a lot of people that there wasn't shenanigans going on during COVID, during that election, all the shit. It was a fucking, that was a bananas time.

• 21:49Bill Maher?

  I may not convince you of it, but it is eminently convincible.

• 21:54Bill Maher?

  To anyone who wants to like go through just really nonpartisan court rulings, Republican, Republicans saying it, lots of them. It's just, he lost an election.

• 22:09Speaker 01

  They're shady.

• 22:09Bill Maher?

  You can't, you know, you don't ever, you don't ever win. Was everyone a hit record? Was everyone a hit record? No. But, you know, does every one of my jokes land? No. You lose a few. And it's just a better story and it's, and it just would be, it would be, it would make me breathe a lot easier because I'm not sure that this crowd is ever going to give, I don't know if we'll ever see a Democrat president again because I just don't think they are of a mind that that can happen without it ruining the country. So they convince themselves they have to do it. They don't want to do it. They just have to do it because otherwise a Democrat.

• 22:51Speaker 01

  Monkey see monkey do too, you know.

• 22:54Bill Maher?

  Meaning?

• 22:55Speaker 01

  I mean, somebody starts something and like, you see the talking points come out like the comms in the White House or this, that and the other. It's like everyone gets on the same talking point. They use them a lot in the news now. Everyone's talking about this. They're saying this, they're saying, you know, the end of, what is the big one now? It's constitutional, something.

• 23:12Bill Maher?

  Yeah. The, the reason why the Democrats have a hard time prosecuting this case and making Americans care as much as they should have is because there is a version, a slighter, less damaging, less threatening to the Constitution version of all of it that the Democrats do. Everything is a slippery slope. Trump's a king. Yeah. They all try to act like kings to a degree. These people just take it to a different degree. And also the Democrats do draw the line at when they lose an election, they just quit. They quit quick. I mean, Kamala Harris was in like, you know, the Bahamas like on Thursday. I mean, they just like, okay, we lost, get out of town. See you, we'll try again next year, no big deal. Whereas.

• 23:55Speaker 01

  Will you pardon your son? No.

• 23:57Bill Maher?

  Well, that's, again, you have not an untrue point. That was a horrible hypocrisy. Again, doesn't have anything to do with he doesn't concede elections, but let's not.

• 24:09Speaker 01

  Everything to do with just being fucking checked out in line for fucking four years about fucking almost everything. Who's running the fucking country?

• 24:17Bill Maher?

  Okay.

• 24:18Speaker 01

  It was almost, it was just bananas to sit back and even watch. Like, I don't wish that on any human being, you know, to, there's something wrong there, clearly. And everyone shouted with Biden.

• 24:30Bill Maher?

  Oh, Biden.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  I could already walk, like, you know, talk, like, anything, and like, everyone's watching, you know, Democrats are like, standing up for him. But I'm thinking that, I put myself in those shoes, I'm like, something was really wrong with Trump. Like, would I sit there, like, you've kind of insinuated and asked me, asked other people, like, what's your breaking point? Like, I don't know, but if, I would have to think that I'm a rational enough human being, that like, if something was that bad, I'd be like, hey, man, this is fucked up. Someone's got to, like, someone's got to step in here, like, what the fuck is going on?

• 25:05Bill Maher?

  I was trying to get him to leave a long time before people were, most people were, some people were. But I can't argue that point. It's always, it just always comes down to a matter of degree in what you think is the, is the bigger, you know.

• 25:19Speaker 01

  Well, so people, once they grasp onto something, they're holding on to it. They're so scared to look at it from a different angle and let go. You know what I mean? That is their fucking, everything, their safety, it's like, no, I, I, I got in this boat, I'm gonna keep paddling. It's like, well, you're going upstream, you sure you don't want to turn around?

• 25:38Bill Maher?

  Yeah. Isn't it amazing, though, that they're almost the same age? And yet, Biden is like Crypt Keeper, kind of like.

• 25:49Speaker 01

  Well, that's genetics.

• 25:50Bill Maher?

  Skeletor, well, or how we treat ourselves.

• 25:53Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 25:55Bill Maher?

  Whereas Trump, almost the same age, and I used to say it in my act, like, it was like, he puts on the wig and the face paint, and he's like Kiss in 1976. It's like, he hasn't changed a day, nothing is different. He's got that, he's got a brand, which was kind of brilliant.

• 26:13Speaker 01

  He's got more energy.

• 26:15Bill Maher?

  And energy.

• 26:16Speaker 01

  And wants to win at every level, wants to win at every level.

• 26:19Bill Maher?

  But he doesn't, he does not present as old. You know what I mean? He doesn't like.

• 26:24Speaker 01

  It's, it's fucking insane, Bill. Sometimes, you know, I'll talk to him like, sometimes I'll call him. I told him, I said, Sir, you know, you don't have to pick up my calls all the time. Like sometimes I've had a few beers.

• 26:34Bill Maher?

  Oh, he's not doing anything.

• 26:35Speaker 01

  He's, he's, he's up calling my.

• 26:38Bill Maher?

  Trust me.

• 26:39Speaker 01

  And then like, and then he'll get me back. He'll call me like 5:30 in the morning and be like, hey, you up? And I will be because neither one of us sleep a lot.

• 26:46Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 26:46Speaker 01

  You know, this and the other, but hi- his energy level, his fight, his, his wanting to win. And no matter what it is, like somebody with those, those qualities, I want fighting for me. I want him in my corner, no matter what the fight is.

• 26:58Bill Maher?

  I understand that.

• 26:58Speaker 01

  We're fighting for America. I want him in my corner.

• 27:00Bill Maher?

  I wish I was in that corner. I was, was in a corner with a guy who could fight like him. I agree, there's nobody better. But I'd like getting what he wants.

• 27:08Speaker 01

  Did you repeat that?

• 27:09Bill Maher?

  No, nobody, at getting what he wants.

• 27:12Speaker 01

  No, you said nobody better.

• 27:13Bill Maher?

  At nobody better at getting what he wants. I have issues with the means, which is crucial to that point. You can't get what you want just by any means. Like we want Greenland, we're just gonna take it. No, it doesn't work that way. But let me.

• 27:28Speaker 01

  That's what he says, and that's part of his negotiations. That's part of the genius when he goes in and he says like, hey, don't do this or I'll blow you fucking, I'll blow you fucking up. And they're like, well, you're gonna do what? He's like, I'm gonna blow you the fuck up. People are like, huh? Even if they believe him 5%. And it keeps him from starting a war somewhere. That's the fucking guy I want.

• 27:50Bill Maher?

  I get it.

• 27:50Speaker 01

  He's that good.

• 27:51Bill Maher?

  All right, so I'm gonna ask you about that in a minute, but wait. So I just wanna picture this. It's 5:30, Trump calls you, you answer, he asks you what you're wearing.

• 28:04Speaker 01

  The ever comedian, Bill. I like it. I like a good joke, come on.

• 28:08Bill Maher?

  I know you do, and so do I. I mean, so many of your songs are funny. You know, fucking 50 is very funny. Certainly low life is a scream.

• 28:21Speaker 01

  Oh, there's a billion fucking, yeah, fucking 50.

• 28:24Bill Maher?

  The one I talked to you about last time, like the Nashville, uh.

• 28:28Speaker 01

  Nashville I know.

• 28:29Bill Maher?

  Uh, that's very funny about the metros and the, what do you call them?

• 28:34Speaker 01

  I'll drink and Michelob ultras.

• 28:35Bill Maher?

  Yes.

• 28:38Bill Maher?

  And you wish they'd start some shit with you, you'd knock out their whitened teeth.

• 28:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, some, cause um, no, I saw, so the original line that was, that was written by a friend of mine, War Gunther. That I'd, I'd take these songs sometimes that people have written and I rework them. I put my thing out and I rewrite words and shit like this.

• 28:56Bill Maher?

  No, I mean, to me, your gene, your, your almost unique genius is.

• 29:02Speaker 01

  Almost unique.

• 29:03Bill Maher?

  Is, well, other people have done it, is what I'm saying. You don't even know what I'm gonna say, but now I'm gonna tell you. The, the, the way you can evoke the feeling of really that time in your life that is the most sort of embossed in your brain. Adolescence, you're seventeen, your first love. I remember waiting at the school bus, Jenny Clayton was my first crush. And you know, that all, you have so many songs that evoke that feeling. Drinking from the same cup, you know.

• 29:41Speaker 01

  Isn't that one of the best feelings outside of love, sex, like just that nostalgia feeling?

• 29:46Bill Maher?

  It gets me every time. Remember my first.

• 29:49Speaker 01

  I had to write a new song for him. It gets me every time.

• 29:53Bill Maher?

  Is that how you do it?

• 29:54Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 29:55Bill Maher?

  I do, you know, I work the same way.

• 29:56Speaker 01

  Absolutely. Someone says something poignant or outside of the box or something that's just different, I write it down. Whether it's a title or a line or anything, I write it down.

• 30:04Bill Maher?

  I never purposely write. I just remember when I, things I say when I'm high. But that's, you know.

• 30:11Speaker 01

  Title of your next special, Things I Say When I'm High.

• 30:13Bill Maher?

  Well, that's gonna be the title of every show and every special.

• 30:16Speaker 01

  It's called a podcast.

• 30:17Bill Maher?

  It is a podcast, all right. But like Glenn Frye said, he was

• 30:25Bill Maher?

  in this car with this guy driving on the freeway and he said, "Life in the fast lane." And Glenn was like, "Oh, thank you for making my next $12 million for me." Cause, no, of course, then you have to.

• 30:38Speaker 01

  Which is also saying, like, someone gave me a brick and I built the White House. There's a lot more work entailed.

• 30:45Bill Maher?

  I'm just gonna say.

• 30:46Speaker 01

  As you know, as a comedian, you write down like the one thing, but it sparks something in you. And then you, you, you, I've learned over the years to even write more and more down like the dumbest shit. You would think at the time, but you just write it down. Sometimes you forget about it. Then you go back through your notes, through your chords you wrote, through a voice recording, through whatever it is. And, you know, you write a hundred and maybe one of them hits.

• 31:09Bill Maher?

  Yeah, I mean, that's what, speaking of Eagles, what Don Henley said when Don Felder, I don't know if he sued them. He definitely wanted to be the writer on Hotel California. Now, he did give.

• 31:22Speaker 01

  He had the guitar.

• 31:24Bill Maher?

  Well, he gave him a tape with that sort of beginning kind of riff. And he said, yeah, it was a very intriguing idea for a song. It had no lyrics. It had no title. It had no chord changes. You know, yes, a lot of these bricks have to go in.

• 31:40Speaker 01

  That is kind of constituted as songwriting though. Like, you know.

• 31:43Bill Maher?

  As what?

• 31:44Speaker 01

  In a weird way, it's very slippery slope in songwriting. Like, you know, like in Nashville, they call it write a word, take a third. You know what I mean? It's like if you sit, if a four guy sit in a room and you come in and you got a melody and like a hook. Or something. And there's a fourth guy sitting there that just, you know, changes some.

• 32:02Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 32:03Speaker 01

  One line of the song, he gets a third.

• 32:07Speaker 01

  I'm no stingy motherfucker. I like think, you know, I think people would tell you I take care of people around me, you know, sometimes. Give more than what's due, but at other times I'm like too, like, wait a minute. Let's fucking call this what it is. You know what I mean? Like, I came with this and this, you came with this. Let's, let's talk about it and split up the percentages.

• 32:26Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 32:27Speaker 01

  Sometimes I'll just give people fucking more, but that didn't happen until I was rich.

• 32:31Bill Maher?

  Right. Well, you'll appreciate this story then. Maybe you heard it. Diane Warren, the great songwriter.

• 32:39Speaker 01

  Diane.

• 32:40Bill Maher?

  You do?

• 32:40Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 32:41Bill Maher?

  Okay, well, she noticed that, this is like two years ago, that a Beyonce song had 24 writers on it.

• 32:51Speaker 01

  I've seen that all the time. That happens a lot.

• 32:53Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 32:54Speaker 01

  Pop music and hip hop and stuff. It's even happened in Nashville now.

• 32:57Bill Maher?

  But she, so she said, she said, she commented to somebody, how can you have 20 of her writers on a song? And then the other types who you and I both don't have any use for said it was racist.

• 33:10Speaker 01

  Everything's racist.

• 33:11Bill Maher?

  Because she was questioning, and I don't even know where the.

• 33:14Speaker 01

  If you say anything negative about Beyonce, you're racist. It happened to me years ago. I said Beyonce something. I said, I think she's beautiful. She's talented. Always been kind to me. I know her runners, nor her father, nor her sister. I've known them through the years.

• 33:28Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 33:29Speaker 01

  And I was like, I just don't understand how she can be this big, but she doesn't have like a purple rain or like a Sweet Home Alabama.

• 33:36Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 33:36Speaker 01

  Or an old time rock and roll like a, a song that no matter who you are, no matter what you think, this, that and the other. It's like, fuck, that's good. This, that and the other. I know that's specific. This, that and it, and her fucking Bay Hive came after me. They're like this, that and the other. And I'm, I was out fucking hunting.

• 33:51Bill Maher?

  I think that, I think.

• 33:53Speaker 01

  Wait, Bill, you appreciate this? Like, just flooding my shit, blowing all my shit up. I don't give a fuck about it. And I'm like, wrong guy to fuck with. I'm like, I haven't been thinking about this. I just, her, her, her fan club or something is called the Bay Hive, the Bee Hive or something like this. So I just posted a can of rage and like, fuck y'all.

• 34:10Bill Maher?

  Of course you did. That's you. But I would, I might submit that, listen, which is from Dreamgirls. Which is, you don't know it?

• 34:22Speaker 01

  No.

• 34:23Bill Maher?

  I think that's pretty mainstreamy. Like as far, like this thing you're talking about, like most, I think most people would know that.

• 34:31Bill Maher?

  Listen.

• 34:31Speaker 01

  I'm talking about all people.

• 34:33Bill Maher?

  Well, there's nothing all people know. I mean, no, there isn't. They, they.

• 34:38Speaker 01

  Everybody knows Don't Stop Believin'.

• 34:40Bill Maher?

  I don't know about that. Oh, please. You think kids know Don't Stop Believin'?

• 34:45Speaker 01

  Well, I'm talking about, you gotta put a certain, you know, generation on it at some point. You know what I mean? But.

• 34:51Bill Maher?

  Who, who, who, I don't even know who did that. Who, I know the song.

• 34:54Speaker 01

  Journey.

• 34:56Bill Maher?

  Also a journey in a coliseum.

• 34:59Speaker 01

  With my nuts swinging.

• 35:00Bill Maher?

  No dancing, no lip syncing.

• 35:02Speaker 01

  Do I actually have a?

• 35:03Bill Maher?

  Right?

• 35:03Speaker 01

  You said coliseum, I got an old rhyme.

• 35:05Bill Maher?

  Isn't that, isn't that the?

• 35:06Speaker 01

  Yes, but I got an old rhyme that I never used, like an old dirty rhyme.

• 35:09Bill Maher?

  See, that's again.

• 35:10Speaker 01

  You just sparked us like a.

• 35:11Bill Maher?

  That evocation.

• 35:12Speaker 01

  And my dick's so thick, you know, it ought to be bronze, then put on display in a museum with my nuts swinging low so the hoes can come see them.

• 35:20Bill Maher?

  That's from Don't Stop Believin'.

• 35:22Speaker 01

  No, that's just this fucking weird rhyme I remembered from, I don't know where, that I've never used.

• 35:28Bill Maher?

  But again, that evocation of that, like, time in your life. The one about you're in the second row with your girl on your shoulders.

• 35:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:39Bill Maher?

  Like, all that stuff, that.

• 35:42Speaker 01

  That was actually started, that was, started written by like Morgan Wallen, Mitchell Tenpenny.

• 35:46Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 35:47Speaker 01

  Couple other guys, this is before Morgan Wallen blew up and I remember this, this, something, I got a demo of it, I can't remember what.

• 35:54Speaker 01

  And I just couldn't get over the voice on it. I was like, who the fuck is singing this demo? It was Morgan Wallen.

• 36:00Bill Maher?

  And he wrote that?

• 36:01Speaker 01

  He was one of the writers on that. Now, I took that song and I reworked it.

• 36:05Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 36:06Speaker 01

  Put it in my thing, which I've done, you know.

• 36:08Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 36:09Speaker 01

  Normally I'm writing, you know, I would say 80% of my songs with one of my go-to friends, like Uncle Cracker, John Eddie, or somebody. You know, I don't do the Nashville rites where people say, let's get together at 3pm and write a song. I'm like.

• 36:21Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 36:22Speaker 01

  It's just fucking hang out and if some shit sparks off, let's start writing it down.

• 36:26Bill Maher?

  Right. That's my method too, yes.

• 36:30Speaker 01

  Worked alright, but yeah, he was actually on that. That was, that was them. Um, still something about rock and roll.

• 36:36Bill Maher?

  Oh, I love that.

• 36:37Speaker 01

  I, you know, that's great. You like a lot of the songs that I like that.

• 36:40Bill Maher?

  I really do.

• 36:41Speaker 01

  Aren't big hits, aren't.

• 36:42Bill Maher?

  And I know them well. One of my favorite songs, not of just of you, but of anything, Cold Beer, which is, just tells you, you can separate the art from the artist.

• 36:50Speaker 01

  That was written by a young man in Louisiana. He sent it to me, same thing. So, all the songs you like were started by someone else that I, Shay, his name was Shay something, through a friend of mine, Steven Peterman, that, uh, played for the Lions. Knew him, um, it's either Mississippi or, um, Louisiana, one or the other. But yeah, just give me a cold beer.

• 37:10Bill Maher?

  But, look, this, this is such a good illustration of the way you can separate the art and the artist. Like, I hate beer, so I don't relate to that at all.

• 37:21Speaker 01

  Most gay people do.

• 37:25Bill Maher?

  Okay.

• 37:27Speaker 01

  I saw Bullseye.

• 37:28Bill Maher?

  Yeah, that was.

• 37:29Speaker 01

  You got me a couple times.

• 37:31Bill Maher?

  Yeah, absolutely. But Cold Beer, no. If it was called Lit Pot, I would relate, but I don't relate. So I don't relate to the what you're singing about. The lyrics are political. I find the first line very funny because you're.

• 37:46Speaker 01

  Taking a knee in there.

• 37:47Bill Maher?

  Because you're lamenting. No, it's like I'd turn on the radio if they were playing songs instead of like talking politics about everything's gone wrong. Okay, like, yeah.

• 37:58Speaker 01

  Damn, Bill, I'm impressed.

• 37:59Bill Maher?

  Man, can you own? I'm telling you, I've been there for a long time. We didn't talk about this last time?

• 38:05Speaker 01

  We did, but I don't know, we're in Hollywood. You might just be fucking.

• 38:08Bill Maher?

  No, oh, no. Please. How would I? Why would I do that? What would you think I would like? Anyway.

• 38:16Speaker 01

  Because you live in Hollywood.

• 38:19Bill Maher?

  But I am a music lover.

• 38:20Speaker 01

  I know. I've come to know that more and more.

• 38:23Bill Maher?

  Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've had a lot of musicians here. Your girl Sheryl Crow is here. You know, I mean, those, not just the big one you did with the, but Collide? That's a great.

• 38:34Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 38:34Bill Maher?

  Duet record.

• 38:35Speaker 01

  Bob Seger played piano on that.

• 38:37Bill Maher?

  But Cold Beer, okay. I don't agree with the beer part. Wait, first of all, yeah, you say you. I find it ironic that you were lamenting that at the radio, well, people talking politics. Yeah, Bob, we only get people to shut the fuck up about politics, huh? But then like you doubt global warming, you know, and it's okay because I don't give a shit. You're even throwing the beer cans into the fire, which seems unnecessarily anti-environmental. I mean, why throw the can into the fire?

• 39:12Speaker 01

  Because it's fun to do bad things.

• 39:14Bill Maher?

  Okay, there you go. And that's, okay. And that is a venal sin I can forgive. But it just shows you can like the art and you don't, I don't have to agree with it. I don't give a shit. You think I live my life by song lyrics? You know, I mean, there's lots of lyrics I listen to. I mean, I love Jumpin' Jack Flash, but I don't.

• 39:37Bill Maher?

  Drive a stink through my, spike through my head or whatever he's saying in there. I never know what he's saying, but.

• 39:42Speaker 01

  I used to carry, I could tell you say.

• 39:46Bill Maher?

  Jumpin' Jack Flash? Like a spike.

• 39:48Speaker 01

  I was born in a crossfire hurricane.

• 39:50Bill Maher?

  Which they named the investigation after.

• 39:53Speaker 01

  I was drowned by some in the pouring rain.

• 39:55Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 39:55Speaker 01

  I was with a spike right through my head.

• 39:59Bill Maher?

  Yeah, something was. You don't remember it either.

• 40:01Speaker 01

  This is where it's tough to argue with drugs are bad.

• 40:06Bill Maher?

  No, it's because.

• 40:07Speaker 01

  Listen to the lyrics of Tumbling Dice.

• 40:08Bill Maher?

  Because Mick Jagger does not enunciate, or he sings in his Scouse Cockney accent.

• 40:15Speaker 01

  Cause like all of us, he wanted to be a black man.

• 40:17Bill Maher?

  I don't, I don't, I, I mean, I've listened to those songs and of course I could look up the lyrics in two seconds, but I'm too lazy. But like some of those songs I've been listening to for, you know, 50 years. And I still, I don't know, another Honky Tonk Woman, I don't know what's this.

• 40:33Speaker 01

  I met a gin soaked bar room.

• 40:36Bill Maher?

  I met.

• 40:36Speaker 01

  Down in, I met a gin soaked, I met a gin soaked barmaid down in Memphis. She tried to take me upstairs for a ride.

• 40:47Bill Maher?

  That line I remember. Tried to take me upstairs for a ride.

• 40:51Speaker 01

  And then. Lady, then she covered me in roses.

• 40:55Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 40:55Speaker 01

  Blew my nose and then she blew my mind.

• 40:58Bill Maher?

  I don't.

• 40:58Speaker 01

  I was like.

• 41:02Bill Maher?

  But this song is great. So who gives a.

• 41:05Speaker 01

  Incredible.

• 41:06Bill Maher?

  No, when the songs are.

• 41:07Speaker 01

  Incredible. We actually came up a version for this next tour of, um, I come out of this new song, which I'm gonna make people suffer through a new song, which at my level in the career, it's like, you know, like, you're not waiting for God, God rest his soul for Tom Petty's new song. You know what I mean? Played fucking hits. I understand that, but I'm like, when you get a good one, I'm like, all right, I'm gonna make them suffer through this and I'm not gonna give them a chance to go to the bathroom or go get a drink or something. So I'm gonna play it second. And that's how you get them to suffer through it. But at the end, then we do this, what I call like an Ike Turner, Ike and Tina Turner version of, um, I know it's only rock and roll. Which gets me off too, cause it's exciting for me to like, do this version and get into this groove, you know, like,

• 41:51Speaker 01

  sometimes you gotta do shit for yourself to keep yourself into it. Most of the time.

• 41:55Bill Maher?

  I mean, you're such a good singer. I, it, it, it's baffling to me why you, like, it was all, when I, when you were first on the scene, I felt like you were just a straight up all rapper. I didn't even know you could sing.

• 42:07Speaker 01

  That's what I had to do to get.

• 42:10Bill Maher?

  But why? Because you could, obviously, you could always sing.

• 42:12Speaker 01

  Because rap metal was the big shit, right? And, and I'd been in the trenches for ten, fifteen years at this point.

• 42:19Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 42:20Speaker 01

  Not making any money, I had a kid, you know, blah, blah, blah. It was like kinda do or die time.

• 42:24Bill Maher?

  You were doing it for ten to fifteen years before you were famous?

• 42:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, when I was like fourteen.

• 42:30Bill Maher?

  Before a copy in that era?

• 42:31Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, when I was fourteen, you know, I was going at it. And then when I was nineteen, I was torn with Ice Cube and Too Short. I had released a record on Jive Records on RCA when I was eighteen that sold like, it must have sold ten or fifteen copies. And, which is actually funny, because there's this dirty record, Too Short, produced some of it and some other, some other folks and, um, and then Vanilla Ice came out and that kinda crushed that, because I was this little dirty fucking white boy from Detroit. And I remember sitting in a record company, I'm like, I'm like, you can't get any of my songs fucking anywhere. This record ain't selling. I'm fucking eighteen. This and that, like, they had the labels, like, you said suck my dick in every song about four times.

• 43:14Speaker 01

  And I'm like, hmm, hmm, hmm, alright. But then it came Do or Die, doing that record, it was like, and I actually sent in, like, when I got signed to Atlantic, some like, kinda Rolling Stones, you know, bluesy rock feeling songs. And they were like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, we signed you because of some of this rap metal shit you did. And I was like, I can do that shit in my sleep. They were like, then do it. And I did it, and, you know, it's fucking sold fourteen million copies off it.

• 43:44Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 43:45Speaker 01

  Thought I was gonna stay there. And I'm like, I wrote this country song I think's pretty good. I had Sheryl Crow sing on it. Picture. And they're like, you're gonna fucking ruin your career. What are you doing? I'm like, I'm just doing what I think feels good, what sounds good, what I like, what I think people want to hear. I don't know.

• 44:04Bill Maher?

  Also, people go through phases in their life. If you're an artist, it's gonna be reflected in your art. So what, you were interested at fourteen? Yeah, it, you know, I don't like Love Me Do by The Beatles, because they were twenty one.

• 44:19Speaker 01

  I didn't want anything to do with fucking country music when I was a kid. My parents used to listen to it. I'm like, fuck this. I'm like, oh, fucking, goddamn, fucking Rebel. And, ah, and then hip hop came out, I'm like, oh, yeah.

• 44:32Speaker 01

  Unfortunately, like rebellion nowadays has turned into like, at least sometimes I think about it and it's half joke, half serious is like, you know, rebel, I'm like, fuck, I'm gonna cut the lawn in my parents' house, I'm gonna fucking listen to fucking Run DMC and fucking NWA and fucking like, but I really loved it. And now it's turned into like, I'm gonna cut my dick off and put a dress on and piss my dad off.

• 44:56Speaker 01

  You can't tell you don't think some of that's going on.

• 44:59Bill Maher?

  Oh, I'm sure that is. I mean, look, every generation from the beginning of time, I think, has an impulse to like, the prime, prime directive is to piss off those assholes who brought you into the world and gave you everything.

• 45:17Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 45:18Bill Maher?

  Fuck them. Whatever they do, I'm gonna do the opposite. If they want, if they drink coffee hot, I will drink it cold. If they smoke cigarettes, I'll smoke a vape. You know, they just, if they think that people are just boys and girls, I'll show, I'll show them.

• 45:40Speaker 01

  There's a lot of that going on.

• 45:41Bill Maher?

  But you know, I mean, Trump says there's only two sexes. You know that it's more complicated than that, right?

• 45:46Speaker 01

  There's very small percentages.

• 45:48Bill Maher?

  But it still exists. There are people.

• 45:51Speaker 01

  Very small percentage.

• 45:52Bill Maher?

  Okay.

• 45:52Speaker 01

  But it's been blown wide out of hand, you will admit.

• 45:54Bill Maher?

  They, look.

• 45:55Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 45:56Bill Maher?

  I agree with that. Like, uh, and they hate me for saying that, but absolutely some of it is social contagion. I mean, when I did a.

• 46:04Speaker 01

  Everything's social contagion.

• 46:06Bill Maher?

  Well, but certainly at that age, you're, you're so susceptible to any fucking suggestion. I compared it to entrapment in the sense that when, when you get caught for entrapment, it means that you wouldn't have thought of committing this crime. The FBI had to come in and say, hey, wouldn't it be great if we blew up the Sears Tower? I mean, those assholes, am I right? I think I can get you a lot of explosives. And if you say that to like people who have nothing going on, like wanna blow some shit up, they, they might go, hey, that's a pretty good idea. Okay, that's entrapment. It's a little bit of the same if you're constantly talking to kids

• 46:52Bill Maher?

  about the idea that you might not be in the right body, which is true. You might not. But to have been doing.

• 47:01Speaker 01

  You didn't get a choice, motherfucker. That's the body you were born in.

• 47:05Bill Maher?

  Yes, but but there but there is there are people whose mind is so oriented the other way that it does make sense for them, I think. But not a child to decide this.

• 47:17Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 47:17Bill Maher?

  I mean, children, I mean, the idea that I would have had to deal with that idea even. I could barely deal with what I was dealing with, which was at first, I want girls so badly and I'm too shy.

• 47:32Speaker 01

  How is this gonna fit in there?

• 47:33Bill Maher?

  Oh, I that was not what I was worried about. It was just, I want girls and I'm too shy to talk to them. That's a terrible prison to be.

• 47:42Speaker 01

  I'm still like that.

• 47:46Bill Maher?

  That's a ridiculous. What the fuck are you talking about? You're still you're shy with girls?

• 47:51Speaker 01

  Well, I will show off fucking whatever I have to do to make sure that girl that I'm have my eye on wants to talk to me. I'm fucking, yeah, I will not go up to a girl and say, hi, my name is Bob. How are you?

• 48:06Bill Maher?

  You don't have to. You're famous. That's probably why.

• 48:09Speaker 01

  That's probably the fucking whole reason why.

• 48:11Bill Maher?

  Everybody, all of it. It solves.

• 48:13Speaker 01

  It all comes back to pussy. I wish I had some shoes made out of that shit.

• 48:17Bill Maher?

  I mean.

• 48:17Speaker 01

  It don't ever get old. You can't wear it out.

• 48:20Bill Maher?

  You know what the greatest opening line to a girl is? Thank you very much.

• 48:27Bill Maher?

  You know? Because she because she said to you, hi, Kid Rock, I love you. And your line is?

• 48:36Speaker 01

  I love you too.

• 48:36Bill Maher?

  Thank you very much.

• 48:38Speaker 01

  Oh, no, I just jump right in. I love you too.

• 48:42Bill Maher?

  It sounds like you're single now.

• 48:45Speaker 01

  I am single.

• 48:46Bill Maher?

  Oh, I didn't know that. Last time we talked, you were with somebody.

• 48:49Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 48:50Bill Maher?

  Well, I'm sorry that here on Valentine's Day, you're... I'm sure you won't be alone for long.

• 48:56Speaker 01

  Oh, it's tough, Bill.

• 48:57Bill Maher?

  It's not tough for you. It's tough in general. It's tough. It's not tough for a rich, famous, uh...

• 49:04Speaker 01

  I heard it said once, I can have every girl I don't want.

• 49:09Bill Maher?

  Um, there's a lot of that, too, yes. Just because a lot of people want you doesn't mean you find them attractive. That is true. And certainly, beautiful women know that more than anybody. Many beautiful women are like, you know, alone here on Valentine's Day.

• 49:25Speaker 01

  I had a good one with Elon at the fight.

• 49:27Bill Maher?

  A good relationship?

• 49:28Speaker 01

  No, we're just talking. Like, I don't know him that well. You know, we text a little bit here and there, but like, we're talking. And I don't think I... I don't like to speak out of school, but I don't think this is speaking out of school. It's like, so we're sitting there, and like, now we're just, you know, three, four hours into the UFC fight. We're hanging out, and like, these ring girls are walking around. At Madison Square Garden. And I'm like, and I've been noticing this all night. I'm like,

• 49:53Speaker 01

  "These, these girls are not that hot." And he's like, he gives me this stare, and he's like, "Hot women are very scarce."

• 50:03Speaker 01

  And I'm like, "Ooh, that's kinda right." And I look at him a little bit longer, and I'm like,

• 50:09Speaker 01

  "So are cool dudes with shit tons of money."

• 50:14Speaker 01

  And we had a good laugh off that for a while.

• 50:17Bill Maher?

  Well, I think Elon probably is... There's certainly a physically hot, uh, rare...

• 50:24Speaker 01

  What's hot to you? What's hot in the mainstream? What's...

• 50:28Bill Maher?

  There are... What's amazing to me is that there are so many different variations of gorgeous in the world. There's a lot. I mean, yes. Is it, is it the majority? No. But, I mean, there's...

• 50:43Bill Maher?

  How many adult women in the world? Three billion? Even if it was like 10 million, that's a lot of hot chicks. You know, who are like-

• 50:54Speaker 01

  Spread across the world?

• 50:55Bill Maher?

  Well, I mean, we're talking about, we're talking about, you know, super gorgeous, like, like, arrestingly beautiful. And then like, just plain beautiful is pretty good, too. There's a lot, there's a lot of variations on- Why do you think we have so much trouble being committed people? Because men, it is, it is a constant siren call. And unless you are tied to the mast, like Odysseus, it's hard to not answer that call. Especially for you. Comedians-

• 51:32Speaker 01

  Maybe when I was younger, it's, it's not hard anymore.

• 51:36Bill Maher?

  Yeah, of course. But, but because you're, you're, I'm guessing your priorities have changed.

• 51:42Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 51:43Bill Maher?

  I mean, you don't want to be blown on the tour bus. You're at Toys R Us. It's in that era of jokes.

• 51:51Speaker 01

  Figuratively. That's a good one.

• 51:53Bill Maher?

  What is it?

• 51:54Speaker 01

  That's, that's pretty good. It's actually true.

• 51:57Bill Maher?

  It's in your song.

• 51:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is. Nowadays, I spend more time at Toys R Us.

• 52:06Speaker 01

  Which is totally fucking true.

• 52:08Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 52:09Speaker 01

  Trust me. Rather than picking up a hot chick, I'm more worried about what I'm gonna get my granddaughter for Christmas.

• 52:14Bill Maher?

  Right. Well, you can do both, you know? I'm sure you'll, you know, we'll go over to Hula Hands later. It's Valentine's Day. We'll get the losers.

• 52:25Speaker 01

  What's Hula Hands? That's your clue?

• 52:27Bill Maher?

  No, I just made it up. Some, some dive Irish bar I'm picturing with.

• 52:35Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 52:36Speaker 01

  I'll walk into a dive Irish bar and every girl in there will think I'm fucking Elvis.

• 52:41Bill Maher?

  Yes. Was it so terrible?

• 52:44Speaker 01

  No complaints here.

• 52:45Bill Maher?

  Yeah, exactly. No, um, I will not say who this is, but a friend of mine who was, like, close, not quite my age, but in that era, and we were talking somewhat recently, and he's single, he was married, and he's, and he's like, said, "You would not believe it, I'm getting a lot of iconic pussy." Like, girls will come up to me and say, "You're iconic." I thought, "Wow."

• 53:20Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 53:20Bill Maher?

  That is, the universe just keeps giving iconic pussy. And I think you could get a lot of iconic pussy. You're iconic. Now, you gotta find a girl who knows that word. Not all of them.

• 53:35Speaker 01

  I'm trying to figure out what it means.

• 53:37Bill Maher?

  Iconic? You know what it means. But I, I would guess that Elon needs a woman who's very smart, wouldn't you think? I mean, he's kind of a brainiac and all that, don't you think?

• 53:53Speaker 01

  I don't think so.

• 53:55Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 53:56Speaker 01

  No.

• 53:58Bill Maher?

  Elon?

• 54:00Speaker 01

  I, maybe, most dumb guys like us are like, like, "She looks really smart. She looks super smart."

• 54:12Bill Maher?

  First of all, tits never, tits are for kids.

• 54:16Speaker 01

  Oh, we should, we should hang out sometimes because we're probably not chasing the same pussy.

• 54:19Bill Maher?

  We're not.

• 54:21Speaker 01

  Oh, bingo. See, that's why we're friends.

• 54:23Bill Maher?

  I'm not chasing-

• 54:23Speaker 01

  We just, we just broke through, break on through to the other side.

• 54:26Bill Maher?

  I'm not chasing pussy at all, Bob. I'm looking for a meaningful relationship. You disgust me. You're lucky I don't hit you with a-

• 54:35Speaker 01

  Clearly, you're looking for a meaningful-

• 54:42Bill Maher?

  No, but I think, I don't think Elon is like us at all. I think, I think Elon Musk needs a woman who, I, I read once in an interview he did in some magazine, and he said, "I can't really be happy or like good at my work unless I'm in love." And at the time, he was with Amber Heard. That may slightly load the issue of this point I'm making, but yeah, he was. He was with Amber Heard, I forgot that. Did you know that?

• 55:10Speaker 01

  I, I knew he banged her or something, but...

• 55:12Bill Maher?

  No, well, they were together for a while. Then she, then she shit on his computer.

• 55:17Speaker 01

  That was hilarious. God bless Johnny Depp.

• 55:22Bill Maher?

  Yes. He, he...

• 55:25Speaker 01

  For standing up and fighting. For standing up and fighting, because you know what? There's a lot of women that are misfucking treated. That's a fact.

• 55:32Bill Maher?

  Yes.

• 55:32Speaker 01

  And then you got these other fucking bitches.

• 55:36Speaker 01

  Who fucking shake down fucking men. Or attempt to shake down men, scare the fuck out of them.

• 55:43Bill Maher?

  Well...

• 55:43Speaker 01

  And you're like, wait a minute.

• 55:46Bill Maher?

  I, I wouldn't...

• 55:47Speaker 01

  This is fucked up.

• 55:49Bill Maher?

  I wouldn't say it was a shakedown. What I would say, it's, it's this. Women have an idea, a lot, I think, that I would call romantic justice. Now, there's a term, we have poetic justice. Poetic justice...

• 56:04Speaker 01

  I believe in romantic justice to a, to a T.

• 56:07Bill Maher?

  You don't know how I'm defining it?

• 56:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, I do.

• 56:10Bill Maher?

  You're clever, aren't you?

• 56:11Speaker 01

  You want me to explain it to you? I know exactly what you're talking about.

• 56:15Bill Maher?

  Go ahead, tell me.

• 56:16Speaker 01

  Romantic justice is a woman spends the best years of her life with you, and you're having sex or this, that, and the other, that you should take care of her at some level.

• 56:27Bill Maher?

  Well, that's maybe part of it. No, my idea of romantic justice is...

• 56:30Speaker 01

  I didn't come close?

• 56:31Bill Maher?

  No, not, well, here, well, I'll tell you what it is. Poetic justice is a term we use for when justice is served, but not exactly...

• 56:43Bill Maher?

  For what the crime was, like OJ Simpson. Okay, he didn't go to jail for killing his ex-wife. He went to jail for some other crime and people said, well, that's poetic justice. Women have kind of the same idea about if a guy hurts me and legitimately does, I don't mean necessarily like beat you or something, although we don't know what exactly happened, but I don't think that happened. But uh, maybe it did, we don't know. But if he hurts you in any way, even if it's just by abandoning you, leaving you, promising you and then not coming through, whatever it was, it is well within your rights to then make up any shit you want because he's not gonna get punished for what he really

• 57:25Bill Maher?

  did, but it's okay if we punish him for this thing that I'm going to make up and that's the poetic justice.

• 57:31Speaker 01

  Thousand percent.

• 57:32Bill Maher?

  That's romantic justice.

• 57:33Speaker 01

  One thousand percent.

• 57:34Bill Maher?

  Yes, okay.

• 57:35Speaker 01

  We are in agreeance over a thousand percent.

• 57:37Bill Maher?

  Well, we're in agreement. There is no such word as agreeance and that was found out by Fred Durst when you were at the Grammys.

• 57:43Speaker 01

  I didn't go to no college, Bill.

• 57:46Speaker 01

  Didn't I call you Billy?

• 57:48Bill Maher?

  Yeah, as a kid. Oh yeah, everybody.

• 57:50Speaker 01

  My brother's Billy, my dad's Bill. My brother Billy liked to smoke funny cigarettes. So like my dad Bill is a staunch Catholic and a very conservative Republican. So I didn't want to be disrespectful, but I'd rather call you Billy.

• 58:06Bill Maher?

  Go ahead.

• 58:07Speaker 01

  All right, Billy?

• 58:08Bill Maher?

  There are people who still, Jerry Seinfeld still calls me Billy.

• 58:11Speaker 01

  Oh, is that a name?

• 58:12Bill Maher?

  There are.

• 58:13Speaker 01

  You know, Paul McCartney told me it's not cool to drop names.

• 58:18Bill Maher?

  It was just, he's the only, like, that's the only one I could think of who does it. My sister, sometimes, but.

• 58:26Speaker 01

  Wayne Gretzky calls me Robert.

• 58:30Bill Maher?

  So you're, it was, your brother is Bill, so it was.

• 58:33Speaker 01

  Billy. Billy and Bobby. Two Midwestern boys, Billy and Bobby.

• 58:37Bill Maher?

  Billy and Bob. Together you make one full redneck. Uh, okay. And that, and then a sister, you said?

• 58:44Speaker 01

  Two sisters.

• 58:45Bill Maher?

  Two sisters, so four of you.

• 58:47Speaker 01

  Four of us.

• 58:48Bill Maher?

  So you were, I didn't know you were Catholic, I was raised Catholic.

• 58:51Speaker 01

  I've heard you say that. I always thought you were Jewish in the early days.

• 58:54Bill Maher?

  Yeah, cuz you're a racist pig, but um, no. Uh, but I.

• 59:00Speaker 01

  I'm not a pig.

• 59:03Bill Maher?

  Okay. Okay, good. Um, but like, what did you think of Catholic, being brought up a Catholic?

• 59:10Speaker 01

  Fucking boring.

• 59:12Bill Maher?

  Loved it.

• 59:13Speaker 01

  Boring.

• 59:13Bill Maher?

  Loved it.

• 59:14Speaker 01

  I've been going to church recently and I found a good Baptist church by me where they got music. Like, I wanna go worship to music, you know what I mean? Everything's better with a soundtrack.

• 59:23Bill Maher?

  So that's why you're making this gospel album? This gospel album?

• 59:27Speaker 01

  I've been into gospel for a long time. I love it, some of the good songs, Tom, T, Hall, Me.

• 59:32Bill Maher?

  Elvis made a gospel album?

• 59:34Speaker 01

  A lot of people make gospel records. Yeah, of course.

• 59:36Bill Maher?

  What was the name of it?

• 59:38Speaker 01

  What, Elvis's gospel album?

• 59:39Bill Maher?

  Yes.

• 59:40Speaker 01

  He made more than one.

• 59:42Bill Maher?

  Hmm, one main one. How Great Thou Art is its title.

• 59:47Speaker 01

  I guarantee I got one of the songs on here from it.

• 59:49Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 59:50Speaker 01

  I'll see.

• 59:51Bill Maher?

  How Great Thou Art.

• 59:54Speaker 01

  Are you talking?

• 59:55Bill Maher?

  But doesn't it kind of limit you lyrically? Cause you, it's, it's always kind of about.

• 1:00:00Speaker 01

  I just wrote, I just wrote a song, a couple of words called Halfway to Jesus. Cause I'm halfway to Jesus. I can feel love between us. Book of John, eternal light, no, eternal light, the book of John. Yahweh keeps us moving on, cause I'm half, halfway to Jesus. Lord, you know, I've made mistakes. I was lost in a sea of snakes. These days I spend my time trying to make things right. No more running blind, I finally see the light. And I'm half, halfway to Jesus. You still got that little motherfucker over here going like, hey, don't you wanna party and hang out with bitches? You're like, hey, man, good Toys R Us, get something for your granddaughter. You're like.

• 1:00:43Bill Maher?

  Why, why would, what would Jesus have against hanging out with bitches? I don't understand why.

• 1:00:47Speaker 01

  You hang out with prostitutes?

• 1:00:48Bill Maher?

  I don't understand why that's a contradiction.

• 1:00:50Speaker 01

  It's not.

• 1:00:51Bill Maher?

  Oh, well, you said he's on your shoulder as.

• 1:00:53Speaker 01

  No, I'm talking about the devil. The devil in Jesus.

• 1:00:55Bill Maher?

  But what, what is devilish about hanging out with girls?

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  Well, it could be devilish depending on what terms you're hanging out with them on.

• 1:01:04Bill Maher?

  Well, we're not gonna be hanging out with underage girls. And we're not gonna be doing anything untoward with them. We're gentlemen, right?

• 1:01:13Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 1:01:13Bill Maher?

  I've never heard.

• 1:01:14Speaker 01

  But still, like, if you have a couple of girls.

• 1:01:18Speaker 01

  And you like them both. Then you're in a single situation, you're an adult.

• 1:01:25Speaker 01

  Like, you know, and you're very upfront, like, hey, I'm not, I'm not ready for a committed relationship, this, that and the other.

• 1:01:32Bill Maher?

  I can't believe you're still working this.

• 1:01:33Speaker 01

  And you're in a, and you're in a position that we are, we have money, there's celebrity component involved, this, that and the other, like, somebody's gonna be hurt. I, I don't wanna hurt.

• 1:01:45Bill Maher?

  I, I don't, I disagree. Not, not, I mean.

• 1:01:48Speaker 01

  You think if you explain it up front, everything's fine?

• 1:01:50Bill Maher?

  Absolutely. Honesty solves.

• 1:01:53Speaker 01

  So that is someone else's problem, you don't have any empathy for their feelings?

• 1:01:57Bill Maher?

  What, what, what, first of all, I'm 70. There's no future in me as like a husband and father. I come pre-advertised. Fuck. I'm lucky if we make it to the next Valentine's Day.

• 1:02:14Speaker 01

  Did you feel that way when you were 50?

• 1:02:16Bill Maher?

  No, but I'm not. Oh, right, you are.

• 1:02:20Speaker 01

  Right. Looking for a little advice, Billy.

• 1:02:22Bill Maher?

  Yeah, that, you're right. That's different for you, because you are still, you still could be made into what I could not possibly may be made into. I, I mean, I've said to girls, literally word for word, if I got you pregnant tomorrow, I'd be 82 when the kid comes, no.

• 1:02:40Speaker 01

  First thing I did when I became single after this last relationship was fucking schnip.

• 1:02:45Bill Maher?

  Oh, really?

• 1:02:46Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 1:02:47Bill Maher?

  How could you do that to yourself?

• 1:02:49Speaker 01

  Fucking actually hilarious. The process of, do you wanna hear about my vasectomy?

• 1:02:55Bill Maher?

  I do.

• 1:02:56Speaker 01

  Absolutely, this would be good podcasting.

• 1:02:58Bill Maher?

  Good podcast.

• 1:03:00Speaker 01

  Right, so I'm like, I'm like, fuck, I'm like, this is a whole new world, I'm like, I didn't expect to be here, but I'm here and I'm like, you know, shit's happening. I'm like, all right, I gotta get these things cut off or whatever they do, so.

• 1:03:12Bill Maher?

  Well, they're not cutting your balls off.

• 1:03:14Speaker 01

  No, I, I understand that now, but I'd never really looked into it, like, you know.

• 1:03:18Bill Maher?

  And you still did it without looking into it?

• 1:03:20Speaker 01

  No, no, I looked into it. I did the fucking research, talked to some guys that done this and everybody's funny, so like. So like the lead up to it is kinda like the scary part, right? Like all the shit they prep you for and this, that and the other. I'm like, hey, I need to get that thing, you know, snipped or whatever they do.

• 1:03:36Bill Maher?

  So who did you talk, who did you talk to for this invite?

• 1:03:39Speaker 01

  I have a concierge doctor in Nashville and she hooked me up with-

• 1:03:42Bill Maher?

  But you said you talked to some guys who already-

• 1:03:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, they said it didn't hurt. It was this, that and the other, blah, blah, blah. You know, I didn't know that, you know, I'm under the impression like, they just cut your nuts off? Like, no, no, no, they just cut a little thing in there like this, that and the other.

• 1:03:55Bill Maher?

  So you talked to some ballist-

• 1:03:57Speaker 01

  So wait, wait, I go, so finally it's day to do it. And I'm like, fuck, gotta go through with it like in there like. So sitting there with fucking, do you know the worst part about it? The worst part of all, what?

• 1:04:10Bill Maher?

  They're cutting your-

• 1:04:11Speaker 01

  No, it's another dude washing your balls, getting ready for surgery. There's a dude down there like, it's gonna be a little uncomfortable. Now, here's the fucked up part, Bill, that I can't believe I'm gonna admit this on whatever we're on. Is uh, is it, you're like sitting there and there's a dude washing your balls. Now, think about this, someone starts scratching your back and you don't know who it is, feels good.

• 1:04:37Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:04:39Speaker 01

  And I'm like, fucking baseball, who hit the most home runs in history? I'm like, if I fucking pop a boner right now, am I gay? So like, this is fucked up. And then like the doctors are, by the way, you know what the doctor's name was? Not making this up. Um, Dr. Johnson. No shit. So I'm already having a good laugh in there. Now I'm at a table, he comes in like shits, Bernie's like, what type of music you wanna listen to? I'm like, I, anything keeps you calm?

• 1:05:08Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:05:09Speaker 01

  Motherfucker puts on Metallica, I'm like, ah, he's pretty funny. He's pretty funny, like, alright. So we're having a little banter back and forth, you can't feel nothing, you're numbed up. And like the smoke's flying out by your nuts and shit and you're like-

• 1:05:22Bill Maher?

  What?

• 1:05:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, like they're soldering it or doing something where they like do something. And like this, and then he's like, uh, he's like, um, he's like, now they talk to you, right? You can't, you have to like ejaculate 20 times and then send in a sample so we know all the sperms out of there. I'm like, 20 times? I'm like, fuck, I got shit to do tomorrow, you just ruined my whole day.

• 1:05:44Bill Maher?

  They don't mean in one day, right?

• 1:05:47Speaker 01

  I'm joking with the doctor, Bill, come on. This is why I'm not a comedian.

• 1:05:51Bill Maher?

  I think it would be funny. If they're the, you feel the person washing your balls and you look down and it's Dylan Mulvaney.

• 1:06:00Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 1:06:04Bill Maher?

  But, but do you have to?

• 1:06:05Speaker 01

  And then we have two straws and a Bud Light, we're like.

• 1:06:09Bill Maher?

  I mean, if you did wanna do a commercial that would like break the internet, that would be it.

• 1:06:17Speaker 01

  Absolutely. I actually suggested that when I was talking to Bud Light.

• 1:06:21Bill Maher?

  We didn't have the internet, but man, I can not forget.

• 1:06:28Bill Maher?

  Man, I never will forget.

• 1:06:30Speaker 01

  Day of moonlight shined upon your hair.

• 1:06:33Bill Maher?

  That's, again, you're always bringing me back to

• 1:06:40Bill Maher?

  when I, I had my first love when I was 16 and, you know, that people say you never forget your first love. It's so true. And you also never forget when you get dumped by her. Because nothing ever hurts as much. Because it's the first one and you didn't see it coming and, you know, so.

• 1:07:00Speaker 01

  I'll never forget my first love.

• 1:07:02Bill Maher?

  Who was that? Jenny Clayton by the school bus?

• 1:07:06Speaker 01

  My son's mother.

• 1:07:09Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:07:11Bill Maher?

  And what happened to that one? You were just too young?

• 1:07:16Speaker 01

  Yes, I mean, a million factors, whatever. We're friends now, you know, after a lot of

• 1:07:23Speaker 01

  hardship and pain and things in between, but, you know, you get older, you get wiser and.

• 1:07:28Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:28Speaker 01

  See, this could be you and, you and President Trump's story.

• 1:07:32Bill Maher?

  And what?

• 1:07:33Speaker 01

  This could be you and President Trump's story. We're older, we're wiser, we've gone through a lot of things differently in politics. Come to a spot where like, I guarantee you guys could sit down and be like.

• 1:07:44Speaker 01

  You would see what I see, you would see what I know in this man and be like,

• 1:07:50Bill Maher?

  I do already.

• 1:07:51Speaker 01

  Motherfucker's cool. I'm sure he would do the same thing.

• 1:07:54Bill Maher?

  I do already. And I've given him, like, there are moments when I see why people love him so much, and I even like him a lot, because...

• 1:08:04Speaker 01

  Do you feel like you ever have to double down?

• 1:08:07Bill Maher?

  No.

• 1:08:07Speaker 01

  Because of your TV show, because of this, that, and the other?

• 1:08:10Bill Maher?

  No, no. No, sir. That, no. I say exactly what I really think, always. I am not ever...

• 1:08:19Speaker 01

  But you've got two good things working for you. You're very smart, you're very, you stay informed, and you have comedy on your side. It's kind of what I do in music, which is probably why you like what I do a little bit.

• 1:08:31Bill Maher?

  I do. I love it.

• 1:08:32Speaker 01

  Something, maybe you don't agree with your life, but you're like, "Ah, it brings me back over here."

• 1:08:37Bill Maher?

  I still love the song, even if I don't love the lyrics. But the lyrics are always clever. Even if I don't agree with them, I get it. And I can appreciate the artistry. And again, I don't live my life by song lyrics. You know, I don't listen to "Daydream Believer" and say, "Oh, I could fly beneath the wings of a bluebird as she sings." Yeah, that's right, the six o'clock alarm.

• 1:09:02Speaker 01

  You're also telling me at the same time that a lot of my songs spark nostalgia and make you feel a certain way, so there's kind of a double-edged sword there a little bit.

• 1:09:10Bill Maher?

  Well, that's the best thing you can do, is, you know, hit that chord in people. And, you know, that's why music is, um, will always be...

• 1:09:18Speaker 01

  There'd be nothing on earth without music. Think about it. There's nothing that you enjoy without a soundtrack.

• 1:09:24Bill Maher?

  There would definitely be things on earth without music. But they would, I, believe me, if they took away my music, but it's still not ahead of, like, food.

• 1:09:36Speaker 01

  If they just did the voice of God and said, "Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Maher, and you didn't have Green Day's 'Bump, bump, bump, bada-dum, bump, bump' playing." Music, anything you can think of, there's music, anything.

• 1:09:47Bill Maher?

  Actually, Kid and Play wrote that song, Kid from Kid and Play. Green Day redid it, but yeah, it's a great, it's a great song, yeah.

• 1:09:54Speaker 01

  Was that like the?

• 1:09:55Bill Maher?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:56Speaker 01

  Love Kid and Play.

• 1:09:58Bill Maher?

  Really, oh.

• 1:09:59Speaker 01

  Used to wear my hair like Kid.

• 1:10:00Bill Maher?

  I should get you two guys together, Kid and Kid Rock, I mean, he's one of my best friends.

• 1:10:05Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:10:05Bill Maher?

  Ki- forever.

• 1:10:06Speaker 01

  What's his name, Christopher?

• 1:10:07Bill Maher?

  Christopher Reed.

• 1:10:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:09Bill Maher?

  Oh, I would love that.

• 1:10:10Speaker 01

  I loved them when I was young, you know who their producer was, was Herbie Lovebug?

• 1:10:12Bill Maher?

  I will.

• 1:10:13Speaker 01

  Also did Salt and Pepper.

• 1:10:14Bill Maher?

  I will arrange that.

• 1:10:15Speaker 01

  I still hang out with, I see Pepper, you know.

• 1:10:17Bill Maher?

  Will you tell me what, next time you're in LA?

• 1:10:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:20Bill Maher?

  I remember the last time, this so.

• 1:10:22Speaker 01

  When are you gonna come see me in Nashville?

• 1:10:24Bill Maher?

  Uh.

• 1:10:25Speaker 01

  When are you gonna come see the middle of the country, Bill, not just go do a show?

• 1:10:28Bill Maher?

  I just got off.

• 1:10:29Speaker 01

  Coming at, you need to come, come to my farm in Alabama and hang out. You always gotta tease Alabama a little bit.

• 1:10:34Bill Maher?

  Bad timing, because after forty-two years, I just got off the road. I'm not doing stand-up on the road.

• 1:10:40Speaker 01

  Oh, I bet you got a big old jet.

• 1:10:43Bill Maher?

  I u- I used to travel by that, I know you came in on yours, and, you know.

• 1:10:47Speaker 01

  You know what's different between mine and your jet?

• 1:10:50Bill Maher?

  You own yours.

• 1:10:51Speaker 01

  Mine has middle fingers on the tail.

• 1:10:53Bill Maher?

  Uh, really?

• 1:10:54Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:10:55Bill Maher?

  Oh, okay, yeah, I don't.

• 1:10:57Speaker 01

  An American badass with two middle fingers, nothing to see here, folks, when we fly in.

• 1:11:03Bill Maher?

  But, but when you're giving the finger to, like, just anybody, that doesn't lose its.

• 1:11:10Speaker 01

  I actually worried about it a little bit, you know, when I decided, I'm like, ah, fuck it, put middle fingers on it, I was like. I was like, I, I, I actually, you know, have a conscience where I don't wanna, like, offend children and shit like this, you know? I actually think about this stuff, and like, with my shows, I'm like, if you brought your kid to the show, that's fucking up to you. Like, I'm doing my show, but when I fly into any airport, Bill, everybody's smiling.

• 1:11:34Bill Maher?

  I'll bet.

• 1:11:34Speaker 01

  They're doing this, they're having a good laugh, and I'm like.

• 1:11:36Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:37Speaker 01

  Fuck, I feel like I'm doing the work of God at that point, because I'm putting a smile on people's faces.

• 1:11:42Bill Maher?

  The only thing I have about it is that it is so indistinct. It's like, and I'm sure I don't have to tell you this, but Molière once said, "To honor all men is to honor none." And I feel like to give the finger to just anybody is to sort of dilute what the finger is for. It's like, who are you mad at specifically?

• 1:12:03Speaker 01

  Shouldn't we do that with everything?

• 1:12:04Bill Maher?

  What?

• 1:12:04Speaker 01

  Shouldn't we do that with everything?

• 1:12:06Bill Maher?

  I don't know. That's why I had the thing made of you as Chico there, because you're-

• 1:12:10Speaker 01

  I see my hat on the dog.

• 1:12:11Bill Maher?

  I know, because you're just-

• 1:12:12Speaker 01

  I asked your boy, I'm like, is that my hat from Rolling Stone?

• 1:12:15Bill Maher?

  Yeah, that's you, because with the cigar, because you're Chico. Barking at nothing in the driveway, just barking. Not at anything, but just-

• 1:12:27Speaker 01

  Might have a few people that disagree with that.

• 1:12:30Bill Maher?

  No, I feel like you've mellowed, actually.

• 1:12:32Speaker 01

  I barked pretty hard the last eight years, and Donald Trump's president.

• 1:12:37Bill Maher?

  So are we gonna get a, after the gospel album, are we gonna get another Bob Seger album?

• 1:12:45Speaker 01

  No, I have 25 songs now that I've gotta put out. I've always had this idea, and I guess I'll let it out of the box now.

• 1:12:51Bill Maher?

  25, that's like a double.

• 1:12:52Speaker 01

  Because I've always wanted to do a triple album, called Kid MF Rock. Like, picture a piece of vinyl opening up, right? Kid motherfucking rock. The Kid's a collection of more country Americana songs. The motherfucking is like my hardcore hip-hop shit, and the rock is like these rock tunes.

• 1:13:08Bill Maher?

  An all-new?

• 1:13:09Speaker 01

  And just the last, yeah, just the last few years, you know, I put these together. I just love to go to the studio, write, and record, and I dare say I've gotten better over them.

• 1:13:19Bill Maher?

  You know, the last person who I can think of who put out a triple album was George Harrison.

• 1:13:26Speaker 01

  He put out a triple album?

• 1:13:27Bill Maher?

  Yes, when the Beatles broke up, he fell.

• 1:13:30Speaker 01

  I love George Harrison.

• 1:13:31Bill Maher?

  What?

• 1:13:31Speaker 01

  I love George Harrison. Love Hassan Danny.

• 1:13:34Bill Maher?

  Well, apparently you don't really love him that much, since you don't even know about his-

• 1:13:38Speaker 01

  I didn't say I knew all his music.

• 1:13:39Bill Maher?

  His most famous album.

• 1:13:42Speaker 01

  Didn't he write "Here Comes the Sun"?

• 1:13:43Bill Maher?

  Yes, of course.

• 1:13:45Speaker 01

  Let's start there.

• 1:13:46Bill Maher?

  That was with the Beatles, that's on Abbey Road. But he felt when he was with-

• 1:13:50Speaker 01

  My guitar gently weeps?

• 1:13:52Bill Maher?

  Yes, that's on, um-

• 1:13:53Speaker 01

  That Prince absolutely fucking killed-

• 1:13:56Bill Maher?

  Yes, he did.

• 1:13:57Speaker 01

  Fucking, I was there, sitting in the front.

• 1:13:59Bill Maher?

  Yeah, that was the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And, you know, Prince had never heard of that song. They sent it to him. And they said, George Harrison's being inducted, would you do that? And, you know, he, it wasn't like he had always lived with that song. He, he heard it and he obviously responded to it. He did that amazing solo.

• 1:14:16Speaker 01

  Incredible.

• 1:14:17Bill Maher?

  I do remember that.

• 1:14:18Speaker 01

  It was incredible. And I remember sitting there and I'm all fucked up and, uh, somebody leans over to me and they said Prince is having an after-party. Prince is sitting right here, next to me, like where you are, basically. And I'm sitting at this table, like Prince is having an after-party. And, uh, he wants to know if you want to come over and maybe play or something. I guess I'm like, I'm like,

• 1:14:41Speaker 01

  "Well, the motherfucker's sitting right there, tell him to lean over and ask me."

• 1:14:45Bill Maher?

  Well, that's-

• 1:14:46Speaker 01

  I didn't get invited.

• 1:14:48Bill Maher?

  Really? But that's him. I certainly didn't know him well, but I do remember being around him a few times. Prince was a man of very few words. I also knew some women who may have known him, uh-

• 1:15:01Speaker 01

  I knew a couple of them women, too.

• 1:15:03Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:03Speaker 01

  We might know the same women.

• 1:15:05Bill Maher?

  I think we all know some women who knew Prince. But he was a man of few words, often none. He just, so I, that, normally I would have the same reaction you had, like-

• 1:15:18Speaker 01

  But I told you, I was just fucked up and young and like-

• 1:15:20Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:15:21Speaker 01

  Hiding my shit, like being a little cocky, you know, piece of shit, like, you know, like, "Ah, motherfucker's right there, tell him to lean over and ask me." They're like, "Yeah, he's not inviting you."

• 1:15:31Bill Maher?

  No, I remember-

• 1:15:31Speaker 01

  "Ah, damn, I kinda wanted to go."

• 1:15:34Bill Maher?

  No, I remember when you were like that. I do feel you have mellowed a little.

• 1:15:38Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 1:15:38Bill Maher?

  Yeah, that's-

• 1:15:39Speaker 01

  Isn't that what you do in life?

• 1:15:40Bill Maher?

  Of course. That's why I'm saying, like, who, who, the kind of music you do at 14 is not gonna be the kind of music you do at 34. Acts that are successful, at least have a career, learn to grow with their audience. You know, you're not, because your audience is also not the audience it was when you first were on the scene, because they were probably interested in teenage things. And then they become adults and they're not, if you're still doing-

• 1:16:09Speaker 01

  I think a lot of musicians fuck up is they, they got this thing from all their people around them, whatever, whatever the case may be, is they- They're like, how do we get the younger generation into this? I'm like, fuck the younger generation. I'm just gonna roll with mine into the sunset.

• 1:16:25Bill Maher?

  Right, and you will pick up some of the younger generation, but it's impossible.

• 1:16:28Speaker 01

  They're all welcome, but...

• 1:16:29Bill Maher?

  Yes, they're all welcome and some will get it, but you can't pander to them because the thing they hate the most, that generation, they don't know anything like what we used to learn at school. Their mind is blank. But they're very savvy about media. So what they really hate is when they know you're like purposely marketing to them. That's a big turn off.

• 1:16:51Speaker 01

  What I do, I just purposely market to them.

• 1:16:56Speaker 01

  Not literally.

• 1:16:59Speaker 01

  They tell me these are why the algorithms and shit don't fuck, and I'm like, yeah, I'm like, ask somebody who gives a fuck. Like, I have zero fucks left in my pocket. My fuck tank's on E.

• 1:17:10Bill Maher?

  Does your kid help you like with stuff like that?

• 1:17:15Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:17:16Bill Maher?

  Yeah, I bet he does.

• 1:17:16Speaker 01

  As a matter of fact, I'm trying to figure a way to give him some of his money and I'm like, because he's running like social media for cracking. He's in that crypto or whatever that world is, this and the other, and kicking ass at it. And like loves his job. I mean, just, I'm like, it clearly skips a generation, like, just a great family man, great everything. My best accomplishment in my life is my son, hands down. Oh, hands down. And my granddaughter, I mean, her and my grandson are close second. I mean, but they might even overtake him. We'll see. But he's an absolute genius at that stuff. Like, I actually hit him this morning about this post of something political. I'm like, should I fuck with people and just put this out? And my son hits me back pointedly. He's like,

• 1:17:59Speaker 01

  well, that's how you get more views. He's like, he said something to the tune of, if, if you just try to promote something, the algorithms don't let it go out as much. But if you put it into a thing where you repost something, and then you make a comment on it while you're promoting such said thing, like, that works. And I'm like, I don't fucking understand any of that shit.

• 1:18:22Bill Maher?

  No, I don't either. But your son, sounds like he'd be perfect for the Elon Musk Geek Squad.

• 1:18:31Speaker 01

  He would.

• 1:18:32Bill Maher?

  I hear there's an agency where some people still have jobs, so somebody's got to get in there.

• 1:18:37Speaker 01

  Problem is Elon can't afford him. He's my son.

• 1:18:42Bill Maher?

  But he's not a nepo baby because he's not in show business. He's making his own way.

• 1:18:47Speaker 01

  No, I told him years ago, and he's talented as shit. That motherfucker can sing like The Weeknd, like Michael Jackson.

• 1:18:52Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 1:18:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, but just didn't have that fucking like, I, I don't know what it was in me that like, there was no quit. Like, I was gonna die on that mountain. There was no fucking fallback, like, don't you wanna get an education? So you're, you know, like, nope. I'm like, I'm a thousand percent in and I'm gonna work my dick off.

• 1:19:14Bill Maher?

  Yeah, I was kind of the same way. Which gave me tremendous anxiety when I was 22, 23, 24. My first years out of college, first starting out in standup. Because you're nowhere and you've got nothing and no one is saying-

• 1:19:30Speaker 01

  And they're like, you're gonna stick with this?

• 1:19:33Bill Maher?

  I remember once at the, at the Christmas party, I overheard my aunt say, "Did you hear Billy's trying to be a comedian?"

• 1:19:41Speaker 01

  I remember being at a Christmas party and someone trying to explain to my grandfather that I was a rapper. And he's like, "Oh, like Vanilla Ice?"

• 1:19:54Bill Maher?

  Well, he knew that. A lot of grandfathers wouldn't know who Vanilla Ice is.

• 1:20:00Speaker 01

  Ah, there was no avoiding him at that point.

• 1:20:03Bill Maher?

  Yeah, I guess that's true. Well, Vanilla Ice was very successful, was he not?

• 1:20:10Speaker 01

  He was. We're actually, I, I would consider ourselves friends now. But back then, when you're trying to get, when I'm like, fuck this and fuck that and suck my dick and fucking blah, blah, blah. And he's like, don't go bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. And I'm like, and they're like, so you say you're a white rapper. It's like, you know, people didn't know enough to go like, if they want like, "Oh, like the Beastie Boys?", you'd be like, "Yeah, like the Beastie Boys." They're going like, "Oh, like Vanilla Ice?", you're like, "No!"

• 1:20:38Bill Maher?

  Right. That's right. They were the big, uh, yeah, they were, they were huge.

• 1:20:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, they were fucking Led Zeppelin in my day and age.

• 1:20:49Bill Maher?

  Yeah, I remember when it was controversial, just the thought of a white rapper. Like, that was a thing.

• 1:20:54Speaker 01

  I think I was at the show when they... I was at all these early hip-hop shows. Just used to get the shit beat out of me. Went every time.

• 1:21:05Bill Maher?

  Shit beat out of you for what? Just for being a white guy at a rap show?

• 1:21:09Speaker 01

  Pretty much.

• 1:21:10Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 1:21:11Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Jamtron, Street Festival, the Fresh Festivals.

• 1:21:14Bill Maher?

  And do you think that...

• 1:21:15Speaker 01

  Being snatched, I'd have some fake gold chain on, "Check that chain." Well, I'd look like an idiot, too, like, you know, this little white guy. I'd be like, "I guess I better get a do-rag and wear it." "This is cool in hip-hop, and I can spin on my head."

• 1:21:26Bill Maher?

  Did that embitter you, do you think, toward black people?

• 1:21:30Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:21:30Bill Maher?

  No?

• 1:21:31Speaker 01

  Not at all.

• 1:21:32Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:21:33Speaker 01

  Not at all. Fuck, I used to go to Public Enemy shows, you know, when they were first coming up. And it was like this pro-militant black shit, and I'd be like, "Yeah." Because I loved the music.

• 1:21:44Bill Maher?

  Right, there you go.

• 1:21:46Speaker 01

  That's what you said earlier.

• 1:21:46Bill Maher?

  Cold beer.

• 1:21:47Speaker 01

  It all comes together, right? I might not agree with the fucking message, or might not understand the message. Me and Chuck D are still friends to this day.

• 1:21:55Bill Maher?

  Absolutely. And look, when we take over Greenland, you and I, we're gonna go to Greenland, we're gonna bring a couple of guitars, and we're gonna write a triple album. That's just my guess.

• 1:22:06Speaker 01

  I'm down. It won't be long.

• 1:22:08Bill Maher?

  Let me ask you about that. We mentioned this before.

• 1:22:10Speaker 01

  And we should get Canada first.

• 1:22:12Bill Maher?

  Greenland, Canada, Gaza, Panama. This new thing where we're like an empire again, where like we're just taking over places? You're cooling down with that?

• 1:22:22Speaker 01

  We're not taking over places. We're helping, we're helping places out.

• 1:22:26Bill Maher?

  He said, his exact words, "I will own Gaza."

• 1:22:30Speaker 01

  No, he said, "I will..."

• 1:22:32Bill Maher?

  Yeah, he did. But he says a lot of things. I'll give...

• 1:22:35Speaker 01

  But, I mean, are we gonna put some context, are we gonna put some context to that or not?

• 1:22:39Bill Maher?

  On the show last week, that's exactly what I did.

• 1:22:42Speaker 01

  Okay, do you like people who talk real? And like, do you want a filtered president who sits there and reads everything off a teleprompter? Or do you want this guy once in a while?

• 1:22:50Bill Maher?

  Yeah, I get...

• 1:22:51Speaker 01

  Says things and says...

• 1:22:52Bill Maher?

  I mean, there's a happy medium.

• 1:22:53Speaker 01

  You understand what he means.

• 1:22:54Bill Maher?

  There's a happy medium between your right being so... So pre-practiced that everything is off a teleprompter and also being a living brain fart. That everything that comes out.

• 1:23:04Speaker 01

  He's not a living brain fart.

• 1:23:06Bill Maher?

  I mean, oh my God, I've been at lunch with eight women.

• 1:23:10Speaker 01

  This guy's clearly smart enough to be president of the United States fucking twice.

• 1:23:14Bill Maher?

  You're right.

• 1:23:15Speaker 01

  Who's the brain fart?

• 1:23:16Bill Maher?

  Well.

• 1:23:17Speaker 01

  It's the liberals have farted fucking for years on their own brains over and over again. And you know, the definition of insanity, we don't even explain it, this, that and the other fuck, and they won't get off it. It's like, so you might as well start practicing right now, President J D Vance.

• 1:23:35Bill Maher?

  You know what? That would be, in my view, the best outcome. Because, well, maybe not the best, depends, I know the Democrats run, but because the other outcome is Trump does run for a third term. Because he, they're, they've already, I've seen this before.

• 1:23:52Speaker 01

  Not gonna happen.

• 1:23:53Bill Maher?

  Bob, I've seen this before.

• 1:23:54Speaker 01

  No, you said it the first time, I watch your show religiously. Even sometimes I don't agree, I watch a lot of different things, but I really enjoy your show.

• 1:24:03Bill Maher?

  God, I'm glad.

• 1:24:04Speaker 01

  And, and not just fucking, you know.

• 1:24:07Bill Maher?

  I'm glad.

• 1:24:07Speaker 01

  So you're blowing, but I'm like.

• 1:24:12Speaker 01

  He's gonna try and contest the election. Well, of course he did because of the COVID bullshit and all the shit that was going on. And now you're gonna go down this rabbit hole again, saying like, he's gonna run for a third term, he's not fucking Putin.

• 1:24:25Bill Maher?

  I, I, okay, I, I, I mean, I've heard COVID mentioned in relation to the election, I've never heard this like. It seems to be coalescing into this theory where like, oh, COVID, election rigged.

• 1:24:37Speaker 01

  It fucked everything up, people lost their fucking businesses. They lost it in liberal cities like LA and Chicago and shit, Nashville.

• 1:24:45Bill Maher?

  What does that have to do with a rigged election that you lost your business?

• 1:24:47Speaker 01

  I'm just saying it was fucking very confusing, the way to fucking get people to think a certain way is confuse the fuck out of them.

• 1:24:53Bill Maher?

  Darling, I suffer.

• 1:24:54Speaker 01

  Stop with the darling.

• 1:24:56Bill Maher?

  I got more shit than anybody for speaking out again as the liberal against the liberal point of view.

• 1:25:02Speaker 01

  I got a lot of shit.

• 1:25:03Bill Maher?

  But you're not a liberal, so I took it from that side. About my stance on COVID, which was much closer to your stance. I'm guessing. I did think they overreacted hugely. And I want the right to say what vaccine I want to get without being forced to get one. And I will always be resentful that they made me get one so that, and if I didn't, I wouldn't be able to continue my life. I wouldn't have been allowed near my studio or to go on the road. I was in Nashville during that period to do a show.

• 1:25:39Speaker 01

  I got the vaccine because my dad had cancer at the time. And I wanted to see my dad during, you know, this, this, and I'm like, I'm like, you know, the shit I put in my body? I'm like, it can hit me.

• 1:25:51Bill Maher?

  Well, the vac, you know, I hope your dad's okay.

• 1:25:55Speaker 01

  He passed on, but thank you.

• 1:25:57Bill Maher?

  Well.

• 1:25:57Speaker 01

  I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what a fucking guy Trump is and what a friend he is.

• 1:26:03Speaker 01

  During my dad was in hospice, he called me all the time to check, how's your father? Just out of the blue. This guy called me four times during the inauguration, just to talk. Maybe because I don't drill him with policy all the time, this and the other.

• 1:26:15Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:26:16Speaker 01

  We've developed this friendship of like, fuck this, fuck that, like, how's it going?

• 1:26:20Bill Maher?

  Like, I mean, I can't tell you what a tremendous Yeah.

• 1:26:24Speaker 01

  Fucking friend this man has been, not him, but his whole family, like, people like, I just, I just can't tell you enough, Bill.

• 1:26:31Bill Maher?

  Like, it's not the first time I've heard stories about the humanity of Donald Trump. I know to a lot of people.

• 1:26:37Speaker 01

  He doesn't want to start any wars.

• 1:26:39Bill Maher?

  They're gonna hear that and they're gonna be like, oh, my God. But yes, I've never heard actually anything different than when you meet him personally, he's a different guy.

• 1:26:48Speaker 01

  Well, after I did your show the first time years ago, you don't remember, we've talked, let me just interject one second, like, politically incorrect.

• 1:26:55Bill Maher?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:26:56Speaker 01

  I was not a big star yet. I was on my ascension. Someone talked your people into, you didn't know me, and I went on that show and I never forgot it. And we talked about this last time. We went and had dinner, met Bill Clinton.

• 1:27:09Bill Maher?

  Yep.

• 1:27:10Speaker 01

  With Gregory Peck and these people.

• 1:27:11Bill Maher?

  Yeah, Gregory Peck.

• 1:27:12Speaker 01

  I forgot. And then I started watching years later with your new show now, and I'm like, I hate this motherfucker. Honestly, I'm like, I, I'm like, this little ugly motherfucker, fucking beady eyed, fucking goddamn Jew, and then find out you're Catholic. I'm like, god damn, I don't even know what I'm talking about. I kept watching, cause it was like one of those train wrecks you can't turn off. And I'm like, the senator is in the other, I'm like, and I'm like, man, you know what? This motherfucker's kinda like me. In a lot of ways, like, he's real. I might not agree with him. Don't agree with him, but he's fucking real. And I'm like, and now look at us, sitting here, talking like, would you consider me a friend at this

• 1:27:56Speaker 01

  point? I would consider you one too. And I know, and imagine if this can happen between you and President Trump, right? When you wanna set a precedent for people coming together, bringing this country together. You guys sit down and be like, like you did this, this and, but just have a conversation.

• 1:28:14Bill Maher?

  Okay, but Bob, it is a little different, because we're friends who don't have that kinda power. He has a lot of power about how things actually are done, in this country.

• 1:28:23Speaker 01

  You might be able to influence that by being a friend of his.

• 1:28:27Bill Maher?

  I would love that.

• 1:28:28Speaker 01

  You don't have to go suck his dick.

• 1:28:30Bill Maher?

  I won't.

• 1:28:30Speaker 01

  No, I know you won't. But I guarantee, and by the way, you guys doing that could set a huge precedent for the world.

• 1:28:38Bill Maher?

  Bring me to the, bring me to the White House with you.

• 1:28:41Speaker 01

  I'll ask him.

• 1:28:42Bill Maher?

  I'll fly to Nashville. We'll go out the night before.

• 1:28:45Speaker 01

  You'll get on Air Fuck One. That's my jet.

• 1:28:49Bill Maher?

  I'll fly to Nashville. We'll go out the night before, and do something completely un-presidential. And then we'll fly to Washington the next day, and you'll bring me to meet President Trump. And then I'll be in Guantanamo Bay. We got him. Well, he's here.

• 1:29:07Speaker 01

  President Trump doesn't, doesn't care if people disagree this, that, and the other.

• 1:29:12Bill Maher?

  Well, I wouldn't go that far, Bob.

• 1:29:14Speaker 01

  No, no, no. I remind him all the time. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, Mr. Trump, I'm like, President Trump, Don, don't forget, don't forget. And Bill, you can, you can attest to this, like, a little bit like that E. Jean Carroll thing, like, I mean, you don't think that's fucking like, okay, a civil case over something, fucking 200 million dollars, and people are like, what the fuck is going on?

• 1:29:36Bill Maher?

  Hey, I said on my show.

• 1:29:40Bill Maher?

  First of all, no one knows what happens in these situations. I understand that a jury found him guilty of-

• 1:29:47Speaker 01

  In New York City?

• 1:29:48Bill Maher?

  I understand. Let me finish. I understand that. Even for him, it sounds weird to me. I also knew her. She used to do, E. Jean Carr used to do Politically Incorrect. I found her to be very sane, nice, rational. She doesn't seem like the private person who would just make this something that up. But I also think even for him, who has been piggish with women, there's no doubt about that.

• 1:30:17Speaker 01

  So have you.

• 1:30:18Bill Maher?

  But to-

• 1:30:18Speaker 01

  So have I.

• 1:30:19Bill Maher?

  Wait, wait, wait. I have not.

• 1:30:22Speaker 01

  Sure you have.

• 1:30:23Bill Maher?

  Not really, but okay. I've been sexist. I have said sexist things.

• 1:30:28Speaker 01

  Well, now we're sexist. Let me keep drilling you a little bit. We'll get there.

• 1:30:31Bill Maher?

  Okay. I have said sexist things. But everybody was sexist 30 years ago. Anyway, even for him, it just sounds too weird to me. I mean, like, this guy has women all over the place. Why would he, like, assault someone in a dressing room? So, we don't know. That's the thing. You don't know. I don't know. None of you people watching who are like, "Oh, I can't believe it." You don't know either. Nobody fucking knows.

• 1:30:58Speaker 01

  How do you think-

• 1:30:59Bill Maher?

  But I did make the point, excuse me, I did make the point that Bill Clinton was credibly accused of very much the same thing by more than one woman. I think two. And we need a Broderick and the other one.

• 1:31:14Speaker 01

  I don't care if presidents are getting pussy.

• 1:31:16Bill Maher?

  Well, getting pussy-

• 1:31:16Speaker 01

  I want him to run the country.

• 1:31:17Bill Maher?

  I don't either. But sexual assault is different. What he is accused of, yeah, getting pussy, Bob, is, I think, we need to agree, and I think you do agree already, is different than what they're doing, than forcing yourself. You didn't force yourself on anybody in your life, I'm hoping. And I didn't either. This is forcing yourself on somebody. He, that's what he's accused of. Clinton-

• 1:31:42Speaker 01

  20 fucking years before the fact in a civil court?

• 1:31:46Bill Maher?

  Okay, I'm saying-

• 1:31:47Speaker 01

  In New York City? How do you think you'd do in Alabama in that jury trial, Bill?

• 1:31:50Bill Maher?

  I'm just saying Bill Clinton was credibly accused of the same thing. And the liberals kind of just whistled past that graveyard. You know, that's what I hate about America right now. The team thing, like if it's our guy, we don't see it.

• 1:32:07Speaker 01

  I hated too.

• 1:32:08Bill Maher?

  And I hate that, like Kamala Harris's husband was credibly accused by the same kind of Me Too standards that we had heard since 2017 in dozens of other cases by a woman who said he did this. It sounded like it absolutely could have happened. It wasn't like the worst thing ever that happened, but it was certainly wrong. And, uh, you know, another woman, woman that she talked to at the time, that was always a big thing in the Me Too stories. Well, she talked to somebody else and they corroborate the story and it was contemporaneous. And okay, all that. And yet they acted like that never happened.

• 1:32:50Bill Maher?

  Like we don't, they, they did it on Saturday Night Live, you know, Kamala's husband, and he was just dorky Doug. No. And like, I fucking hate that. Don't do that to me. Don't like ignore it or try to get me to not see it because it's your team. So you can tell him I said that and maybe he'll get the invitation.

• 1:33:15Speaker 01

  Well, the bottom line, let's say some of this stuff and all of it's true, like whatever, let's just go with that angle, like the Trump bang a porn star, Starmer Daniels.

• 1:33:25Bill Maher?

  Well, that did happen. Well, I think, my opinion, just an opinion.

• 1:33:29Speaker 01

  Better than banging your fat intern.

• 1:33:33Bill Maher?

  Yeah. No, I mean, it's just my opinion, but I think that one did happen.

• 1:33:38Speaker 01

  I mean, if we had to vote on that alone, I'd be like, oh yeah, Trump.

• 1:33:41Bill Maher?

  Yeah. I mean, look, you can't say it's admirable that a guy was doing it while his home, while his wife was home nursing their infant. But, you know.

• 1:33:53Speaker 01

  Lord knows, that's the first guy to do that.

• 1:33:55Bill Maher?

  No, I, okay, but that doesn't make it right.

• 1:34:00Speaker 01

  None of this shit's right.

• 1:34:01Bill Maher?

  Yeah, but that's kind of a broad brush.

• 1:34:03Speaker 01

  No, but what I'm talking about is like, who do we want fucking running the country?

• 1:34:08Bill Maher?

  Well.

• 1:34:09Speaker 01

  Like, I think we can't get good leaders, and this is serious, I, I think we can't get good leaders. Because everyone's gonna dig through your fucking past, and they're gonna find some shit, none of us. Fuck it, I stand before God as my witness, I'm a sinner. No question. At what level? Not that fucking bad.

• 1:34:27Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:34:27Speaker 01

  But.

• 1:34:28Bill Maher?

  You're not a rapist.

• 1:34:29Speaker 01

  Fuck no. But, I mean, like, this is why we can't get good leaders. You know, people that run fucking companies and know what they're fucking doing.

• 1:34:37Bill Maher?

  No, that's true.

• 1:34:38Speaker 01

  People are in the fucking streets and know what they're fucking doing.

• 1:34:40Bill Maher?

  No, I don't know why anybody would wanna be.

• 1:34:42Speaker 01

  Right, no one wants to be subject to that, and I'm like, wait, we're trying to run the business of America. This is what first got me into Trump. I didn't know him at all. And I said it in Rolling Stone, I'm like, I don't fucking let the business guy run it. America's a business, and the business of America is fucked. Last I checked, I'm like, let him do it.

• 1:35:00Bill Maher?

  Well, a government is not just a business. There is a huge difference between business and government, in fact, they're often.

• 1:35:06Speaker 01

  What's different?

• 1:35:06Bill Maher?

  Pitting, they're pit, government's job first, for, one of government's jobs is to make sure business isn't corrupt.

• 1:35:15Speaker 01

  That's not one of the, that's not the forefront of having a business?

• 1:35:20Bill Maher?

  To not be corrupt? No, businesses try to be corrupt so they can make more money.

• 1:35:23Speaker 01

  So if you go in there and tell people, hey, we're gonna stop the fucking corruption, and we're gonna do it at every fucking level, you might get some of it wrong. But we're gonna go fucking do this? Who's done this? In our lifetime, who's done this?

• 1:35:36Bill Maher?

  But business is for profit. Government is not a.

• 1:35:40Speaker 01

  Yes, it is, it's to make America fucking profitable. Stop giving all our fucking hard-earned tax dollars away to everyone.

• 1:35:46Bill Maher?

  Well, that I agree with, we, we waste too much money, we would agree on that. But government's first primary function, the reason why governments first in this world.

• 1:35:58Bill Maher?

  Became an entity is because people need protection. That's why government.

• 1:36:04Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:36:05Bill Maher?

  Yes, police domestically, armies for foreign invaders. That is government's first function. Well, we spend a trillion dollars on defense, so it's not like we're.

• 1:36:17Speaker 01

  We're gonna go through the fucking military next. We're gonna go through the Pentagon. My boy Pete Hegseth is running. He's my fucking neighbor in Nashville. I've known him for years, work out.

• 1:36:26Bill Maher?

  Do you know Pete Hegseth?

• 1:36:27Speaker 01

  Fucking very well.

• 1:36:28Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 1:36:29Speaker 01

  We used to work out every fucking morning at my house.

• 1:36:32Bill Maher?

  Give him this.

• 1:36:35Bill Maher?

  Just tell him to put it with the others.

• 1:36:36Speaker 01

  See, you can't fuck with a comedian.

• 1:36:38Bill Maher?

  No, but I mean, Pete did have a drinking problem for a while, am I right? I mean, you must have seen him in the hedges at some point.

• 1:36:44Speaker 01

  Never saw him have a drinking problem.

• 1:36:45Bill Maher?

  Well, how well do you know him?

• 1:36:48Speaker 01

  Uh, I first met him at Rob O'Neill's wedding.

• 1:36:51Bill Maher?

  Okay.

• 1:36:51Speaker 01

  Years, uh, the guy that shot Bin Laden.

• 1:36:54Bill Maher?

  The guy who shot Bin Laden?

• 1:36:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, Rob O'Neill.

• 1:36:56Bill Maher?

  You know who that is?

• 1:36:57Speaker 01

  He's a very good friend of mine.

• 1:36:59Bill Maher?

  So he was a.

• 1:36:59Speaker 01

  He gave me the sledgehammer that went through Bin Laden's fucking bedroom.

• 1:37:03Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 1:37:04Speaker 01

  I gave him the lyrics for Born Free.

• 1:37:08Bill Maher?

  Wait, you have the sledgehammer that they broke into Bin Laden's bedroom with?

• 1:37:11Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:37:12Bill Maher?

  Well, I hope you have it in a safe. That's a pretty valuable.

• 1:37:15Speaker 01

  I'm actually gonna probably put it somewhere eventually. I've been a little selfish with it.

• 1:37:21Bill Maher?

  What about the?

• 1:37:21Speaker 01

  I'm gonna put it in a museum or maybe my new restaurant.

• 1:37:23Bill Maher?

  Museum of rednecks.

• 1:37:24Speaker 01

  Huh? I might put it in my new restaurant.

• 1:37:27Bill Maher?

  Oh, you got, you're opening a restaurant?

• 1:37:28Speaker 01

  We're rebranding a restaurant in Nashville. It was an old Detroit establishment called Joe Muir's as the Detroit Cowboy.

• 1:37:36Bill Maher?

  And what's it gonna be called?

• 1:37:37Speaker 01

  The Detroit Cowboy.

• 1:37:40Bill Maher?

  Of the Detroit.

• 1:37:40Speaker 01

  But I feel like I've been selfish with some of these things that I have. And I don't know if a museum's the right spot or whatever, like.

• 1:37:48Bill Maher?

  That should be on display.

• 1:37:49Speaker 01

  It should.

• 1:37:50Bill Maher?

  I mean, it's, it's, it's, you know, it's, it's better than, um.

• 1:37:53Speaker 01

  I'm like, you gave me a pair, uh, we played the bigger dick game. Like, we'll walk through my house and have a few drinks. I'm like, if I write a poignant song. Even the start of it or whatever, I'll frame those lyrics. I've done this since probably Picture, since Cowboy I did it. And um, cause I know they might bring money one day for charity, for something, whatever. Whether it's my granddaughter or for charity. And we walked into my house years ago and when I'm at my house in Michigan and uh, I'm like, you know, dude, you should have these. Gave them to him. He's like, I'm giving you something. I'm giving you a sledgehammer at what you've been in Laden's house with.

• 1:38:35Speaker 01

  I'm like, you're gonna give me a piece of American history for that shitty song? I'm like, I go, you wanna play the bigger dick game? Come with me. We went out to my car barn and I collect cars Detroit. I walked in, I'm like, pick out any fucking car you want.

• 1:38:51Bill Maher?

  That's baller.

• 1:38:52Speaker 01

  And I mean, I got some pretty high dollar shit in there. Nineteen, one of the first V16s from 1930, Chevrolet fucking Cadillac.

• 1:39:01Bill Maher?

  Wow.

• 1:39:02Speaker 01

  Probably 800 grand or something, Ford GT sitting there. He's like, I got this fucking shitty ass limo from 1970s that the Ryan from West Coast Customs did an incredible job on, like, made it into some American badass shit. It's got logos on it, it's triple black, it's got TVs and smoke suckers in the back. Rob's like, I want that limo. I'm like, don't take that fucking limo. Grab something else. No, I couldn't talk him out of it. And it's still sitting in my garage to this day. It's his limo.

• 1:39:31Bill Maher?

  But he's gonna take it?

• 1:39:32Speaker 01

  Well, I don't know. It's yet to be determined.

• 1:39:35Bill Maher?

  Wow. Elvis used to give away Cadillacs, of course.

• 1:39:39Speaker 01

  I've given away a few cars, but I'm no Elvis. Although Trump calls me Elvis all the time.

• 1:39:44Bill Maher?

  He does? Trump calls you Elvis?

• 1:39:47Speaker 01

  Better than Elvis. And I'm like, he's just pumping me up.

• 1:39:51Bill Maher?

  Wow. He loves your dirty drawers. Well, I mean, he is emotionally bribeable. You gotta admit that.

• 1:39:58Speaker 01

  His what?

• 1:39:59Bill Maher?

  Emotionally bribeable. If someone likes him, or says they like him, whether it's you, or Putin, or Satan himself.

• 1:40:08Speaker 01

  Fuck the art of the deal. The art of making people feel good, I think, is more important in life. You know, it makes me feel good when he says that. I know it's...

• 1:40:17Bill Maher?

  Exactly.

• 1:40:17Speaker 01

  I know there's a level of bullshit in this scenario. I'm not fucking better than Elvis. I'd never believe that in a million years, but, you know what I mean? That my friend says that to me.

• 1:40:25Bill Maher?

  I agree.

• 1:40:25Speaker 01

  To make me feel good when I'm... When I'm recently, you know, broke up after a long relationship this scenario, I'm like, that's a fucking friend.

• 1:40:32Bill Maher?

  Right. No, and I... I... And I understand exactly what you're saying about, sometimes you know when someone is shining you, and you still don't care.

• 1:40:44Speaker 01

  Makes you feel good.

• 1:40:44Bill Maher?

  Right. It's like, at least you love me enough to lie.

• 1:40:49Speaker 01

  To lie.

• 1:40:53Speaker 01

  You know, Bill, we prefer to call it, in Detroit where I grew up, bullshit.

• 1:40:57Bill Maher?

  Yeah, it's bullshit.

• 1:40:59Speaker 01

  But you know what? Good bullshit is good bullshit. Bad bullshit is fucking horrible.

• 1:41:03Bill Maher?

  I mean, the two times I met him, before he was president, a long time ago, he was exactly what other people also say about him when they meet him. Charming.

• 1:41:14Speaker 01

  Name me one president that wasn't charming.

• 1:41:17Bill Maher?

  Oh, Nixon? Are you fucking kidding me?

• 1:41:19Speaker 01

  I'm not that old, Bill. I'm from Jimmy Carteron.

• 1:41:24Bill Maher?

  Okay, well, you know, I don't know.

• 1:41:27Speaker 01

  You have to be charming at some level to be anybody in life. You're fucking... Would you consider yourself charming?

• 1:41:33Bill Maher?

  Totally. Like, super charming.

• 1:41:36Speaker 01

  Mic drop, bam.

• 1:41:37Bill Maher?

  Like, are you kidding?

• 1:41:38Speaker 01

  Have a nice night, kids. Podcast's over.

• 1:41:41Bill Maher?

  Look up charm in the dictionary, and then my picture. No, I mean, look, if you... I'm the kind of...

• 1:41:46Speaker 01

  What are you, fucking Charlie Sheen?

• 1:41:50Bill Maher?

  I'm the kind of charming like if you like it, you like it big time. And if you don't, then it's obnoxious.

• 1:41:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, I got this, I'm basically Hollywood's kryptonite when you break it down. And I'm like,

• 1:42:05Speaker 01

  yeah, I don't want to hang out with Tom Hanks. I want to hang out with Forrest Gump. You know what I mean?

• 1:42:11Bill Maher?

  What?

• 1:42:12Speaker 01

  And, and you know, like, you know, when, when I went on your show tonight, um, the real time, I'm like,

• 1:42:20Speaker 01

  well, like that takes, you know, what you do, I'll give you some props. Not sucking your dick, I'm tickling your balls a little bit. I'm like, it, it, it, it takes a certain, you know, thing to be able to go and read those lines and do them and interject and this and the other. It's a real skill.

• 1:42:38Bill Maher?

  I'm not reading lines, except at the end.

• 1:42:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, just teleprompter right in front of you, reading lines.

• 1:42:42Bill Maher?

  Okay, well.

• 1:42:43Speaker 01

  Talking to my, you know, the shit, this and there, like, what's wrong with it? I'm saying it still takes like.

• 1:42:47Bill Maher?

  But I'm not, the monologue, the only thing I'm reading is the very end of the show, the editorial, which a lot of it I wrote myself.

• 1:42:55Speaker 01

  Fuck another accolade, I'll fucking bow down to you for that.

• 1:42:59Bill Maher?

  Okay, but the monologue.

• 1:43:00Speaker 01

  Cause you're in a position where you could have a shit ton of writers writing this.

• 1:43:04Bill Maher?

  I do, and they, and I could not be who or where I am without them, they're brilliant. But that last piece I do, which is much more personal and about one subject, and it goes on for eight or nine minutes. That's my baby. They write the monologue jokes.

• 1:43:20Speaker 01

  New rules, at the end of new rules.

• 1:43:22Bill Maher?

  They write that too. I rewrite everything.

• 1:43:24Speaker 01

  But then you write the last bit.

• 1:43:26Bill Maher?

  That's what I'm saying, that's my baby.

• 1:43:28Speaker 01

  Very good.

• 1:43:29Bill Maher?

  Thank you. That's what I, they write the monologue, I just write bullet points there on the prompter to remember which joke I'm doing, but.

• 1:43:37Speaker 01

  That's kind of like what I'm doing with the songs I explained.

• 1:43:40Bill Maher?

  Do you use a prompter when you're on stage for the song?

• 1:43:42Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:43:43Bill Maher?

  You don't? You're one of the last.

• 1:43:44Speaker 01

  No, the only times I've used a prompter is like when I have. Certain guests, like huge stadium shows where I have a ton of featured guests, you know, like big name singers.

• 1:43:53Bill Maher?

  I do something.

• 1:43:54Speaker 01

  And like, we're gonna do those, I'll put them on there for them. Like, I can, I can make a word rhyme with anything, like. So even if I fuck it up, I can fucking.

• 1:44:02Bill Maher?

  Right, you're a rapper. Right.

• 1:44:04Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:44:04Bill Maher?

  It's amazing. Cause I remember seeing Frank Sinatra. I took my mother to see him three years before he died. And shortly before my mother died. And it was the nineties at Radio City Music Hall. And he had seven large screen prompters.

• 1:44:20Speaker 01

  How old was he?

• 1:44:21Bill Maher?

  He was old.

• 1:44:22Speaker 01

  Well, there you go.

• 1:44:23Bill Maher?

  He's still.

• 1:44:25Bill Maher?

  Songs that he hadn't been singing his whole life, he's still fucked up. Like he sang Mac the Knife, which is a standard, but he.

• 1:44:32Speaker 01

  Mac the Knife was written by, it was Bobby Darin.

• 1:44:36Bill Maher?

  Bobby Darin had the hit on it.

• 1:44:38Speaker 01

  Bobby Darin's got some shit.

• 1:44:39Bill Maher?

  Right, it was Burt Hall-Britt.

• 1:44:41Speaker 01

  One of my favorite artists ever.

• 1:44:42Bill Maher?

  Bobby Darin?

• 1:44:43Speaker 01

  Bobby Darin, listen to Songs from the Big Sur. You wanna hear some rock and roll after Mac the Knife?

• 1:44:48Bill Maher?

  The only one I know is, "Beyond the Sea."

• 1:44:52Speaker 01

  Bobby Darin, Ahmet Ertegun used to compare me to Bobby Darin. He's like, "You're my young Elvis or Bobby Darin." Yes.

• 1:44:58Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 1:44:59Speaker 01

  I used to roll Budrum Turkey with him, like fucking ever. I'm the last chapter's, have you read, have you read The Last Sultan?

• 1:45:05Bill Maher?

  No, is that about Ahmet Ertegun?

• 1:45:07Speaker 01

  Yes, it's basically the story of music. I'm the last chapter, ball with the bomb, Budrum Turkey.

• 1:45:12Bill Maher?

  No, I know he was a badass dude.

• 1:45:14Speaker 01

  But I never knew why he used to compare me to Bobby Darin. And then I got Hold His Album, Songs from the Big Sur, Bobby Darin? Fucking genius.

• 1:45:22Bill Maher?

  What kind of songs?

• 1:45:23Speaker 01

  Oh, like, he's like, "Where I born, we ain't got no river flowing through my backyard." Bobby Darin's like doing rock and roll, fucking blues soul music. I mean, it sounds like it was produced in Muscle Shoals, Alabama or something. This album is fucking incredible. Just download it, well, everyone's gonna download it now that's watching this. It's fucking insane.

• 1:45:46Bill Maher?

  I never thought, would have thought that about Bobby Darin.

• 1:45:49Speaker 01

  Neither, but he even says in one of his songs, um. You know, he had Splish Blast, I was taking batteries like, and the cash from the splash had me feeling like a one record flash. So he went off and did his own thing, you know, it was never big, this and the other. But it's, he, he does one of the first rap songs you've ever heard. Me and Mr. Horner, sitting on the corner, not doing nothing to no one. When the squad car stops and out junk cops. You're one of them if I ever saw one. What's, what line does he say that song? He says, he says, um, he says, um, you're a draft card dodger if I saw one.

• 1:46:29Speaker 01

  I can tell by your looks that you read too many books about wars and that's because you ain't been in one. And he's rapping the shit like whatever was sixty, late sixty, yes.

• 1:46:40Bill Maher?

  Early sixties.

• 1:46:41Speaker 01

  Late sixties, I think. I can't remember.

• 1:46:43Bill Maher?

  I mean, he was not.

• 1:46:44Speaker 01

  Me and Mr. Horner.

• 1:46:46Bill Maher?

  He was not, he was, he was either dead, didn't he die young?

• 1:46:50Speaker 01

  He died young, he was like thirty-six, thirty-five, thirty-six.

• 1:46:53Bill Maher?

  So he was either dead or not relevant.

• 1:46:56Speaker 01

  I might have my dates wrong, but I, I'm fucking wrong overall, I'll tell you that.

• 1:46:59Bill Maher?

  But this is when I, I started to listen to music in sixty-eight, when I was twelve, okay? Bobby Darin was either dead or not relevant. He might have been, they might have played like, hey, let's do some Golden Oldies. And then that's when you heard, by the sea, but he, Bobby Darin.

• 1:47:19Speaker 01

  Bobby Darin was the shit.

• 1:47:20Bill Maher?

  I mean, next thing you're gonna tell me Jay and the Americans weren't cool.

• 1:47:27Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:47:28Bill Maher?

  See, I know this whole era that you don't have any clue. You're Gen X.

• 1:47:34Speaker 01

  Me and me.

• 1:47:34Bill Maher?

  You're Gen X. All right, you're playing with your phone.

• 1:47:37Speaker 01

  No, I'm trying to find me and Mr. Horner.

• 1:47:41Bill Maher?

  I could talk to you all night, you know, you're an interesting man.

• 1:47:44Speaker 01

  I gotta piss.

• 1:47:45Bill Maher?

  But I gotta piss too, so we should probably.

• 1:47:47Speaker 01

  Well, let's go swing swords and, um, everybody have fun.

• 1:47:53Bill Maher?

  All right, the tour, let's promote the tour. The three tours, there's the arena tour.

• 1:47:59Speaker 01

  It's not, I'm doing seven arena shows.

• 1:48:01Bill Maher?

  Okay.

• 1:48:02Speaker 01

  Celebrating.

• 1:48:03Bill Maher?

  Like what cities are we talking about?

• 1:48:04Speaker 01

  Uh, like Oklahoma, Kansas City, uh, Milwaukee, Target Center, Minnesota, Minnesota. Can't remember which other ones, and I do the, I own a piece of these Rock the Country festivals, which we started a festival, Bill. You know what our, my thing was when they approached me and offered me a percentage of it was like, I was like, hey, let's do some, let's do a festival of music for hardworking people who love this country.

• 1:48:31Speaker 01

  Can you believe no one's done that?

• 1:48:34Bill Maher?

  Well.

• 1:48:34Speaker 01

  We were profitable our first year. And then the Rock and Rodeo, and I do a comedy, uh, American Badass Comedy Jam in Nashville during Comedy Week, which all goes to charity.

• 1:48:44Bill Maher?

  Well, it's not like other concerts aren't actively against hardworking people who love their country. It doesn't say on the poster, don't come unless you're a pinko commie.

• 1:48:56Speaker 01

  I tell people all the time, don't come to our festival. Like if you think men should be in women's sports and fucking this and that, I'm like, don't come, you're not gonna have a good time.

• 1:49:04Bill Maher?

  I would love to see you, I said this to you on the show tonight, and I was serious, people may think I was joking. I would love to see you, because I do love the music, but I'm not going to a Trump rally. And I've seen you with the flag and the thing and the Trump and like, you know, they'll fucking kill me. And I won't feel.

• 1:49:20Speaker 01

  Why not? I watch your show every week.

• 1:49:21Bill Maher?

  I know, but that's different than being in the crowd.

• 1:49:24Speaker 01

  You're sitting there motherfucking Trump every week. And then I'm like, well, okay, he does that, but he makes some points, I can get through that.

• 1:49:33Bill Maher?

  Maybe after you bring me to the White House, the audience will accept me being in the, in the crowd. But I'm not becoming a Trumper, I'm telling you this right now. It's okay.

• 1:49:42Speaker 01

  Why would you set that, why would you put that boundary on yourself?

• 1:49:46Bill Maher?

  I will become a Trumper if he admits he lost the 2020 election. I'm sorry, I can't, I can't give.

• 1:49:51Speaker 01

  Why does it have to be stipulations?

• 1:49:52Bill Maher?

  Because that's important, because that's the key to the country, is the peaceful transference of power. It is non-negotiable, Bob.

• 1:50:00Speaker 01

  The peaceful transfer of power happened.

• 1:50:02Bill Maher?

  Okay.

• 1:50:03Speaker 01

  He gave Joe Biden the keys, he did. Even though he contested it, he gave him the keys.

• 1:50:11Bill Maher?

  He did.

• 1:50:12Speaker 01

  Daddy not?

• 1:50:13Bill Maher?

  Because the Moulary family on the West Coast guaranteed his safety. You want to talk business? Let's talk business.

• 1:50:18Speaker 01

  Let's do it.

• 1:50:23Bill Maher?

  I gotta pee.

• 1:50:24Speaker 01

  I gotta pee too. There's only one bathroom down here.

• 1:50:26Bill Maher?

  Yes, and you're gonna take it? I'll go somewhere else.

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