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09.29.26 Ask An Advisor With Wes Moss

The Clark Howard Podcast

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This episode covers practical retirement planning strategies, pension trends, and listener questions about managing investments and estate planning. Wes Moss explains recent research showing that retirees often underspend their assets due to psychological barriers, preferring to spend only regular income streams rather than drawing from principal. To overcome this hesitancy, the guest suggests building a diversified income ladder using dividend-paying equities or sector funds rather than purchasing restrictive annuities. Additional listener segments address maximizing 401k contributions after paying off a mortgage, navigating tax-free conversions, and utilizing corporate trust companies for estate planning when aging without family.

  • Consider shifting your portfolio toward income-producing assets like utilities, energy stocks, or REITs to provide a psychological license to spend in retirement. 8:34
  • Check if your employer offers a cash balance plan or modern pension, as private sector pension offerings have seen a recent resurgence. 23:16
  • When investing a lump sum with a long time horizon, historical probabilities suggest that putting the full amount to work immediately outperforms dollar-cost averaging most of the time. 24:53
  • Establish a relationship with a corporate trust company or bank trust division if you are aging alone and need a permanent fiduciary to manage your estate. 31:48

Chapters

  1. 0:00
    Indeed Sponsored Job Intro

    Hosts introduce the episode with an Indeed sponsorship, highlighting job posting benefits.

  2. 0:50
    Ask an Advisor Segment Begins

    Krista and Wes introduce the Ask an Advisor format and set the stage for expert discussion.

  3. 1:31
    Research on Retirement Spending & Pension Revival

    Wes discusses new studies on retirees underspending and the resurgence of pension plans.

  4. 2:06
    Mortgage Payoff to Retirement Savings Strategy

    Wes explains how to allocate mortgage‑free cash toward Roth 401(k) and brokerage accounts.

  5. 13:01
    529 & Trump Account Contribution Timing

    Listeners ask when to stop 529 contributions and how Trump accounts convert to Roths.

  6. 19:58
    Pension Revival Recap and Insights

    Wes revisits the pension resurgence, explaining why employers are reintroducing plans.

  7. 24:35
    Lump Sum vs Dollar‑Cost Averaging Decision

    Wes advises on whether to invest $30,000 all at once or spread it over time.

  8. 27:01
    Government Money Creation Explained

    Wes breaks down how the Treasury, Fed, and banks create and circulate money during crises.

  9. 29:38
    Trust and Fiduciary Continuity for Aging Alone

    Wes outlines options for long‑term fiduciary support when no close relatives are available.

  10. 34:10
    Episode Wrap‑Up and Thank You

    Hosts conclude the episode, encouraging listeners to submit questions and share the show.

Highlights

  • 2:44

    Retirees Underspend Their Assetsinsight

    Studies reveal that retirees drastically underspend their wealth, often living solely on social security or pensions while leaving their principal untouched.

  • 7:17

    Annuities versus Dividend Investingdebate

    The guest evaluates single premium annuities, noting that while they provide a steady payout, they lack liquidity and offer yields comparable to the 4% rule.

  • 11:11

    Maxing Out Post-Mortgage Savingsstrategy

    A listener with a paid-off mortgage is advised to direct extra monthly cash flow into their Roth 401k and then a taxable brokerage account.

  • 20:29

    The Private Sector Pension Revivaldata

    Recent Wall Street Journal data shows that thousands of companies have added pension plans, contrary to the belief that pensions are completely extinct.

  • 27:12

    How Digital Money Creation Worksinsight

    The guest explains how the Federal Reserve expands the money supply by purchasing treasury bonds from major banks and injecting liquidity.

Quotes

  • “According to this research, and this was from Chris Browning and researchers Michael Fink and David Blanchett, that we could be spending 8% more all the way up to 100% more.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:10
  • “According to these researchers, which is saying that they're only spending about half of what the traditional 4% guideline would allow them to.”
    Unnamed speaker · 4:12
  • “If you're 60 and you do a single premium annuity, I've looked at various numbers, it comes out to around 6%.”
    Unnamed speaker · 7:17
  • “The S and P 500 yield is only about 1.2%.”
    Unnamed speaker · 7:59
  • Indeed 0:00–0:27
  • Indeed 17:19–18:11

About this episode

Secret to Giving Yourself 'Permission to Spend' in Retirement & Are Pensions Back? Wes dives into new research showing that median-wealth retirees underspend their potential income by 8% – and wealthier retirees underspend by a staggering 47% to 53%. Wes breaks down the psychological difference between spending assets versus spending income streams, and the little-known shift that can give you the "license to spend" without locking your money away in an annuity. Plus, are pensions making a surprise comeback? Wes explores recent Wall Street Journal data showing thousands of companies adding pension-style plans, why workers want them back, and what this means for the future of retirement. Mentioned on the show: What Is an Annuity, and Why Does Clark Think They Stink?⁠ ⁠How Two Clark-Approved Annuities Can Reduce Retirement Stress⁠ ⁠Annuity Calculator: Is it Worth It? - Clark Howard⁠ ⁠How To Turn Part of Your Nest Egg Into a Pension - Clark Howard⁠ ⁠What It Would Take Each Month To Build Your Own Social Security Check From Scratch⁠ ⁠The Biggest Investing Lesson From Trump Accounts - Clark Howard⁠ ⁠Best 529 Plans by State: How Clark Howard Picks the Top College Savings Plans⁠ ⁠Pensions Were on the Brink of Extinction. Now Companies Are Bringing Them Back.⁠ All this and more on the September 29, 2026, Ask an Advisor episode of the Clark Howard podcast. Submit your questions: WesMoss.com/ask Discover the research-backed path to a happier retirement – order The Retire Sooner Method by Wes Moss today at retiresoonermethod.comWe hope you enjoy our weekly Ask An Advisor episodes. Let us know what you think in the comments! Learn more about Wes: BOOKS BY WES MOSS Wes Moss, CFP® Wes Moss - Clark.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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6,205 words · 8 speakers

Topics

  • annuity
  • 401k
  • Roth 401k
  • Trump account
  • Vanta
  • McDonald's
  • Roth IRA
  • ETFs
  • Pennsylvania
  • Michigan

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