Pod Insights Cameron Hanes - Keep Hammering Collective KHC 196 - Sh*t Talkers Weekly 29 About this episode Join us for a new Sh*t Talkers Weekly podcast episode with Cam and James. They’ll be discussing Cam’s bear hunt at the Rivet’s, OK basketball, a note to Cam from a friend of the show, and more!
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00:00:00 – Carbs & Re-Feeding & James’ Ultra Running Hate
00:04:57 – Friend of the Show Note to Cam
00:07:03 – Trump Yelling at Bibi Netanyahu
00:08:40 – Oklahoma City Thunder Basketball & Oregon Baseball
00:11:59 – The Downsides to Being Well Known & Famous
00:17:08 – Rivet’s Alberta Bear Hunt Breakdown
00:27:57 – Bear Camp Camaraderie
00:32:27 – Jacob Puzey: Admiration in Thinking Before Speaking
00:35:57 – Upcoming Podcast Guests
00:39:57 – Planning a Sheep Hunt
00:43:28 – Bentley Giveaway
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2:24 Cameron Hanes? We live?
2:25 Speaker 01 We're live. Let's fuck it. Let's do it live.
2:29 Cameron Hanes? Fuck it. I'll do it live. This is shit talkers weekly 29.
2:34 Speaker 01 And I'm fasting.
2:35 Cameron Hanes? You are.
2:38 Cameron Hanes? I noticed you looked like really lean.
2:40 Speaker 01 Besides the donut I had this.
2:44 Cameron Hanes? Well, no, that's I mean, that's, uh, what is that called? Oh, no. So here's.
2:51 Speaker 01 Refeed.
2:52 Cameron Hanes? Now, here's what you used to do. Did I tell? I think I explained this before, but like Nick and Eric, the guys who I used to live with, they were bodybuilders. So they do the like high carb for five days.
3:03 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah.
3:03 Cameron Hanes? And then two days, your body's used to like cranking that metabolism. Then you take no carbs so that it sucks fat away.
3:10 Speaker 01 Oh.
3:11 Cameron Hanes? So you go five days high or wait, no, no, it's opposite. Five days low carb, two days max feed, like 600 grams, and then five days of no carbs. So your body gets going on the weekends. Five days just sucks fat off.
3:26 Speaker 01 What if I do?
3:28 Cameron Hanes? I know you like the term sucks fat off. I know.
3:31 Speaker 01 What if I do seven days of carbola?
3:35 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, just 600 grams a day.
3:38 Speaker 01 Every day. I'm a high carb athlete.
3:41 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
3:42 Speaker 01 That's what chat tells me.
3:43 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. Well, that you could try that too, but either way you're going to be shredded.
3:47 Speaker 01 That's good.
3:48 Cameron Hanes? We know that.
3:48 Speaker 01 Yeah. Well, I already am.
3:50 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
3:50 Speaker 01 I don't know if you've seen.
3:51 Cameron Hanes? You can be more shredded.
3:52 Speaker 01 I have a sleeper build.
3:54 Cameron Hanes? Oh, yeah.
3:55 Speaker 01 But it's like so sleeper that you can't even see it when it's when my shirt's off.
4:00 Cameron Hanes? Well, right now you got it's called a pump cover. You know that? You know, the, the big guys who wear the big fucking sweats. That's our pump cover. So I got the opposite of a pump cover.
4:10 Speaker 01 Yeah. I like to, I like to wear those too, but I'm not covering it.
4:15 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, I got no pump cover and no pump.
4:18 Speaker 01 The only thing that's covering a pump is my boxers.
4:23 Cameron Hanes? Oh God. Well, we're so back, dude.
4:26 Speaker 01 We are so back.
4:27 Cameron Hanes? We're so back. We're canceled. We're a lifetime band. We're, uh, yeah.
4:34 Speaker 01 Yeah.
4:34 Cameron Hanes? All of it.
4:35 Speaker 01 Life has been good.
4:37 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, it's good if you're a, yeah, if you're used to like, I don't even know what, if you do it being a like a meth addict. I guess it's good compared to that in my life.
4:49 Speaker 01 If you're used to having bugs under your skin.
4:51 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, but if you're used to like a regular life, my life's not that good right now.
4:56 Speaker 01 Well, I thought I'd start this off with some, with some friend of the show news.
5:01 Cameron Hanes? Oh, good.
5:02 Speaker 01 But actual friends of the show.
5:03 Cameron Hanes? A real friend of the show?
5:04 Speaker 01 Yeah.
5:05 Cameron Hanes? Okay.
5:05 Speaker 01 It's a, clearly it's ultra season because I've been getting a lot of messages of people like, I ran my first 50K, which is super cool.
5:13 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
5:14 Speaker 01 But it also always comes with fuck you, a 50K is a real ultra.
5:19 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. See, you're, this is like you're tainted forever, kind of like I am now.
5:25 Speaker 01 It's true. So I have to revisit it. And although I'm not going to take my words back.
5:32 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
5:32 Speaker 01 I'm just going to reiterate that it's just as hard, whether it's an ultra or it's not. A marathon's not an ultra. Is it easy?
5:38 Cameron Hanes? No. Okay.
5:40 Speaker 01 Case closed.
5:41 Cameron Hanes? A 5K isn't easy if you push that shit.
5:44 Speaker 01 A fucking mile all out isn't easy. I hate those more.
5:47 Cameron Hanes? 400 meters isn't that easy?
5:50 Speaker 01 Yeah, seriously.
5:52 Cameron Hanes? So I don't know. It's a, yeah, it's a crazy world these days.
5:56 Speaker 01 Yeah. So you guys need to, it's all love.
6:01 Cameron Hanes? I saw a lot of like epic, kick ass performances, just like for people, new people doing first ultras.
6:08 Speaker 01 Yeah.
6:08 Cameron Hanes? And they're just killing it. They're crushing it. I love it. I love people just hungry, wanting to improve. And, uh, yeah, I mean, it's, it's amazing.
6:17 Speaker 01 I know.
6:18 Cameron Hanes? Running community is amazing.
6:19 Speaker 01 One of the guys, he ran like his first 50K in like five and a half hours. And I was like, why are you, that's better than me.
6:25 Cameron Hanes? Freaking good, dude.
6:26 Speaker 01 Why are you worried about what I said? I haven't accomplished anything.
6:29 Cameron Hanes? Shit dude, that's not bad. I'd take a five and a half 50K.
6:32 Speaker 01 I know.
6:33 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
6:33 Speaker 01 Which, speaking of which, I'm, I'm running one this week just to simulate long running in five and a half hours is what I'm going to try and do it in.
6:41 Cameron Hanes? But we're gonna, are you gonna run it on the track?
6:44 Speaker 01 Yeah.
6:46 Speaker 01 I don't think so.
6:47 Cameron Hanes? Buff runner style?
6:47 Speaker 01 Yeah, buff runner style.
6:49 Cameron Hanes? Hey, shout out Buff Runner.
6:50 Speaker 01 Friend of the show.
6:50 Cameron Hanes? You're a beast. You are a beast. We will, we're gonna make it happen at some point.
6:54 Speaker 01 Yeah.
6:55 Cameron Hanes? Um, who do I got? Oh, I got Jax on Thursday. Did you know that?
6:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
6:59 Cameron Hanes? Okay. I don't know if they got his.
7:00 Speaker 01 Is he, is, were we doing the podcast on Friday? Is he flying in on Thursday?
7:04 Cameron Hanes? No, we'll do it all Thursday.
7:05 Speaker 01 Oh, sweet.
7:05 Cameron Hanes? We'll get here Thursday morning.
7:07 Speaker 01 Awesome. Well, I have a note and this is from a friend of the show and I'm not gonna say his name because I do think, he said I could read it. I think I said, oh, I don't have to, but I'm gonna read it because I think it's good.
7:19 Cameron Hanes? Okay.
7:20 Speaker 01 Cam, and this is just to you.
7:22 Cameron Hanes? Okay.
7:22 Speaker 01 But I didn't want him to send a bomb, so I said, I had him send it to my address.
7:25 Cameron Hanes? Smart.
7:25 Speaker 01 Yeah. Cam, I'm writing, I'm writing thank you notes to close friends and family because I just graduated college. I reflected on the last five years and realized I should write you one because of the impact you had on me. Two years of no alcohol turned into a runner and find joy when I'm running outside. Not drinking, or sorry, not drinking at university is not normal, which caused lonely days, weeks and months. I really do believe my closest friends during those lonely times were you, Rogan and Truitt. I was always able to listen to pods, watch videos and read your books. Thank you for being my friend. Keep hammering.
8:02 Cameron Hanes? Oh, that's really cool. I mean, I get that. I, I can get how hard it'd be to be sober in college because that is like what people do. They're away from home for the first time. They can do whatever they want. Usually they make a lot of terrible fucking decisions and shit they regret. So the fact that he's that young and for two years has taken the hard road, which is not going to parties, not hanging out, not being, you know, like I can just speak from experience, a fuck up.
8:32 Speaker 01 Yeah.
8:33 Cameron Hanes? And a lot of respect. Um, so that is awesome.
8:36 Speaker 01 I didn't even need college to be a fuck up. He's like that, uh, the raw milk kid.
8:43 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
8:43 Speaker 01 Have you seen that kid? He, he's like prepubescent, but he always has like a plate of, a steak in front of him or something. And he goes, why would you go to parties when you can eat raw steak with a godly woman?
8:56 Cameron Hanes? I know about raw steak, but yeah, I'm down, I'm down with all that.
9:00 Speaker 01 Yeah. Anyways.
9:01 Cameron Hanes? It's good.
9:02 Speaker 01 And don't give me too much shit on the reading there because his handwriting is atrocious.
9:06 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. Well, also you can't read.
9:08 Speaker 01 Clearly college didn't do you that well.
9:13 Speaker 01 All right, onto the next, which is, uh, before we get into the meat and potatoes, we have to cover a little, a little politics, and it's not even politics, it's more like a boxing match, Trump yelling at Netanyahu. Did you see that?
9:29 Cameron Hanes? I don't know if that's real.
9:30 Speaker 01 You don't think so?
9:31 Cameron Hanes? No, that's a fucking fake story.
9:33 Speaker 01 I thought if it's not a fake story, it's theatrical, like they're doing it on purpose.
9:38 Cameron Hanes? I think it's just they, they created this narrative and this pushed it out. He's not yelling, fucking, he, he does whatever.
9:48 Speaker 01 It's daddy BB.
9:49 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, it's like, there's no, maybe BB might chew his ass out.
9:54 Speaker 01 In more ways than one.
9:55 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, because we fucking give them everything they want, and including all the bombs they want to just murder a bunch of kids, but yeah, that's, yeah, I don't believe that shit.
10:06 Speaker 01 Okay, well.
10:07 Cameron Hanes? Anyway, politics aside.
10:09 Speaker 01 Yes.
10:11 Cameron Hanes? It's all love.
10:11 Speaker 01 It's all love, remember.
10:12 Cameron Hanes? Oh shit, it's all love, this is a disclaimer, this is fiction, this is, you, hey, you delivered your line perfect, this is a script.
10:19 Speaker 01 Yeah.
10:19 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, good.
10:20 Speaker 01 I, I spent the last couple of days memorizing it, so.
10:22 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, good job, good job.
10:23 Speaker 01 Line?
10:25 Cameron Hanes? Six. Oh no, I was supposed to say the line.
10:28 Speaker 01 Yeah.
10:29 Cameron Hanes? Fuck, that's from my movie days.
10:31 Speaker 01 Oh. What was the word?
10:35 Cameron Hanes? Oh, dangerous. Shit, um, yeah, no, it's, uh, this is all love, this is all, not, none of it's real, so yeah, don't get your panties in a bind.
10:48 Speaker 01 Yeah, please. Um, other thing on the list, and this is a big one, the thunder got knocked off.
10:55 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
10:55 Speaker 01 Which, I'm not a fan of SGA.
10:59 Cameron Hanes? Is he straight?
11:02 Speaker 01 I did see a picture of him wearing a sports bra.
11:06 Cameron Hanes? Who's they, oh, the Spurs, yeah.
11:08 Speaker 01 Yeah.
11:09 Cameron Hanes? Oh yeah, me and Tanner were talking about this, so Wimby is like a freak, right? But, but, have you ever seen Shaq highlights? Do you know what Shaq would do to that fucking toothpick? Dude, he would, he would just like the Admiral. He fucking sent flying. So Wimby is not the Admiral.
11:30 Speaker 01 How tall is Wimby? Seven?
11:33 Cameron Hanes? Eleven?
11:33 Speaker 01 Yeah.
11:34 Cameron Hanes? I don't know.
11:34 Speaker 01 Shaq was, is what?
11:36 Cameron Hanes? Seven one?
11:37 Speaker 01 Seven one.
11:37 Cameron Hanes? Or seven three? I don't know. I think he's like seven five or four.
11:42 Speaker 01 Eight, probably eighty more pounds.
11:44 Cameron Hanes? Oh, no, eighty. No, a hundred and fifty more pounds.
11:48 Speaker 01 That's a big man.
11:49 Cameron Hanes? And Shaq was athletic. I mean, the only thing is, is Wimby can pull up from threes.
11:54 Speaker 01 Yeah.
11:55 Cameron Hanes? And Shaq is out here on the perimeter.
11:58 Speaker 01 Not a threat.
11:59 Cameron Hanes? That's, that's not where he needs to be.
12:02 Speaker 01 No, but I think people do, uh, forget how much of a beast Shaq was.
12:06 Cameron Hanes? Oh, my God. He is such a freak. So, yeah, I don't, I don't know how there, I mean, is there any freak big men right now? Just like a Shaq or like a?
12:16 Speaker 01 Not like a Shaq.
12:17 Cameron Hanes? No, there's no one Shaq, obviously, but, uh, yeah, I don't even, big men are not really a thing anymore.
12:23 Speaker 01 Yeah, it's mostly, I mean, the game is really just shooting threes.
12:26 Cameron Hanes? It's just, yeah, just no defense at threes.
12:29 Speaker 01 Yeah, but I'm a huge, huge, and I can't, I'm a huge Knicks fan.
12:33 Cameron Hanes? You are?
12:34 Speaker 01 Yeah.
12:34 Cameron Hanes? Wow.
12:34 Speaker 01 Just started this year.
12:37 Cameron Hanes? That'd be cool if they won.
12:39 Speaker 01 It would be.
12:39 Cameron Hanes? It's been a minute.
12:40 Speaker 01 It's been a long time.
12:41 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
12:41 Speaker 01 That's who I'm rooting for.
12:42 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, I like, uh, I think I like Brunson just because he looks sort of like pudgy.
12:48 Speaker 01 Yeah, and he's got a cool story.
12:49 Cameron Hanes? Does he?
12:50 Speaker 01 Yeah.
12:50 Cameron Hanes? But he's fucking good.
12:52 Speaker 01 Yeah, he's really good. Kind of a dog.
12:55 Cameron Hanes? How, how can you play a thousand games a, a year and be pudgy?
13:00 Speaker 01 Yeah, something's going on.
13:02 Cameron Hanes? I was like, what the fuck are you eating, dude?
13:05 Speaker 01 That's that high carb.
13:06 Cameron Hanes? God, is it just Kentucky Fried Chicken? And I, I used to get like the extra, extra crispy, which they don't even offer anymore. And, and rolls and, and, uh, corn and potatoes and gravy.
13:18 Speaker 01 Butter?
13:19 Cameron Hanes? Butter. Yeah. So if you ate that three times a day?
13:23 Speaker 01 Three times. Breakfast, lunch and dinner, baby.
13:27 Cameron Hanes? I would. It's so, it was so good.
13:29 Speaker 01 Yeah. Also, we got Oregon baseball.
13:33 Cameron Hanes? Are they doing good?
13:34 Speaker 01 I guess.
13:37 Cameron Hanes? I don't even know. I think I saw a highlight of something.
13:41 Speaker 01 They're playing Texas.
13:43 Cameron Hanes? Is it the playoffs?
13:45 Speaker 01 Yeah, I think so. I think they're, I think that's their conference championship. I'm probably wrong. It's baseball and it's college baseball, so.
13:51 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, it's, it's, it's down there on the attention.
13:55 Speaker 01 You think it's, you think it's beneath NBA?
13:58 Cameron Hanes? No, because I hate the NBA.
13:59 Speaker 01 Yeah, I did too.
14:00 Cameron Hanes? So, no, Oregon baseball's up there right now, but still, it's like it's been fucking busy.
14:06 Speaker 01 Yeah.
14:07 Cameron Hanes? Hard to keep track of anything.
14:09 Speaker 01 Well, we have, one of my talking subjects is I was listening to Theo Von. He had Lewis Capaldi on. Do you know who that is? He's a singer, kind of like a fat Scot, Scottish guy. He's really funny.
14:21 Cameron Hanes? I don't know if I know him. Anyway.
14:23 Speaker 01 You, you definitely heard his songs. You wouldn't think so, looking at him, but um, they were talking about something similar to what we were talking about the other day, day, but like fame and walking into a room. And like how, when you get to a level of fame, you can't walk into a room without anybody already having an expectation of you. And it's like, you either walk in and he was saying, you know, I walk into a room and I'm either not famous enough, like people just think I'm an asshole who thinks he's way too cool.
14:51 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
14:52 Speaker 01 Or I can't have like any privacy and have any real conversations. Which.
14:57 Cameron Hanes? It's a cool setup.
15:00 Speaker 01 Which I think is just like, a lot of people see fame or being an influence or whatever, and they're like, I want that. That's easy.
15:08 Cameron Hanes? I don't think they want that.
15:11 Speaker 01 I don't think so either.
15:12 Cameron Hanes? Since.
15:15 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. I, I don't even know what that's like and I don't like it.
15:20 Cameron Hanes? I don't like whatever, I, I'm not even going to say that I have anything, but I just know I wouldn't like that.
15:26 Speaker 01 I mean, even just being an influencer, like um, like a lifestyle influencer, going through life, I mean, it's like, you think it's easy, but you still gotta work and it does a lot of work.
15:38 Cameron Hanes? No. I mean, do you like being criticized for everything you say and do? Is that fun?
15:44 Speaker 01 I don't think there's anybody out there that doesn't have a hater.
15:47 Cameron Hanes? Fuck dude. Yeah. And then when you also say a lot of stupid shit and do a lot of stupid shit, that that makes it worse. That's where I'm at.
15:57 Speaker 01 Yeah. Does that help?
16:00 Cameron Hanes? Oh my God. I just, I, yeah, I don't even know if I could redo things for, they could still be working my normal job, to be honest. Fuck, this sucks.
16:13 Speaker 01 Yeah. And I'd be.
16:15 Cameron Hanes? What would you be doing? Being a fucking, what are those called with, where you got the?
16:21 Speaker 01 Brothel?
16:22 Cameron Hanes? No, at the gimp suit. You'd be in some gimp suit in somebody's basement.
16:26 Speaker 01 I would.
16:28 Speaker 01 I'd be in one less often.
16:31 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
16:31 Speaker 01 Cause I still find myself there time to time.
16:33 Cameron Hanes? Right. Well, how did I get here again?
16:35 Speaker 01 One of those latex suits that collects the sweat.
16:37 Cameron Hanes? Oh my God. Hey, it'd be good weight loss.
16:40 Speaker 01 Yeah. I wouldn't know about that. I just heard.
16:42 Cameron Hanes? You'd sweat it out and be like, we're making weight for wrestling.
16:46 Speaker 01 On my carb diet, my gimp suit.
16:51 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. I don't, for anybody who thinks they want to be like be known or whatever, I, I, I'm pretty sure you don't.
16:58 Speaker 01 Yeah. I'm, I'm, I think there are a lot of things people don't take into account when they think about that.
17:02 Cameron Hanes? Oh man.
17:03 Speaker 01 And even, well, I'm going to sound like an asshole, but I've said this before is like, it's, it's so weird to have people come up and be like, oh, Gideon. And I'm like, I have no idea what your fucking name is.
17:15 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
17:15 Speaker 01 I am a regular dude. Like, why, shape, introduce yourself.
17:19 Cameron Hanes? Well, that's the problem with me. I am a regular person too. So like when people talk shit on my page and I talk shit, just like a regular dumb fuck. They're like, oh, I can't believe you'd go down to that level. It's like, no.
17:31 Speaker 01 I can.
17:32 Cameron Hanes? I can go lower than that. What the fuck are you talking about? You have no idea. I am such a.
17:38 Speaker 01 I'm actually being quite controlled.
17:40 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. I mean, you thought that was bad? Dude. So yeah, I'm, I'm as regular and below average as it gets, which means I can be nuts.
17:52 Speaker 01 Which is my next point, which is like, you know, people send DMs all the time of like, if you guys ever need a regular guy on the pod.
17:59 Cameron Hanes? Another one? What the fuck would we do at three? God.
18:04 Speaker 01 We got that fucking covered.
18:05 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, don't. Hey, we need outliers, dude. We don't need more dipshits. God.
18:11 Speaker 01 No, we don't. So.
18:12 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
18:13 Speaker 01 We tried it with Eric.
18:14 Cameron Hanes? We checked that box three times and it, yeah. So we hit in the dipshit category, we're good outlier category. We got Jax coming on Thursday.
18:25 Speaker 01 Yeah.
18:25 Cameron Hanes? Okay. And we got, do you see Erin? So I, she was gonna be here on like the sixth or seventh, but now it's gonna be next weekend. But she just set the FKT on Shasta. Two hours, 16 minutes.
18:38 Speaker 01 What?
18:41 Speaker 01 Two hours, 16 minutes?
18:42 Cameron Hanes? Yes. And she thinks she can get it done in under two hours.
18:47 Speaker 01 How's that even possible?
18:48 Cameron Hanes? I have no idea.
18:49 Speaker 01 Holy shit.
18:50 Cameron Hanes? But I want to find out, I'm gonna ask Taylor, what's FKT for Diamond? Let's go get that fucker. I mean, I can't, but she could.
18:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
18:58 Cameron Hanes? I mean, she must be just.
18:59 Speaker 01 We can.
19:01 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, yeah, go. You go, girl.
19:03 Speaker 01 Get him.
19:04 Cameron Hanes? She must be a super freak.
19:06 Speaker 01 I guess.
19:07 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. So I'm pumped. That's a, yeah. So we got Jax and her coming, you know, sandwich in between the shit talkers dipshit extravaganza.
19:17 Speaker 01 Yeah. We got that covered. Well, we did just get back from bear hunting, so we gotta break this down.
19:22 Cameron Hanes? I talked to the camp yesterday.
19:25 Speaker 01 The camp?
19:26 Cameron Hanes? Bear camp. I gave them the pre-hunt.
19:29 Speaker 01 Oh, you did?
19:30 Cameron Hanes? On the phone.
19:31 Speaker 01 Oh, boy. They're like, we need, we need your wisdom again.
19:34 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, John's, John, I was driving back from White's and dropped my bear meat off up there and he's like, hey, do you want to talk to the guy, to the whatever table or camp or whatever it was? So yeah, we went through the whole thing.
19:47 Speaker 01 Well, we had a good trip.
19:49 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, yeah.
19:50 Speaker 01 It was good.
19:51 Cameron Hanes? That was awesome. Um, you had the camp up there. It's, it seems like there's, it's hardly ever where every person is just solid. I mean, if you're talking, I don't care where you're at, not just camp, just in general. If you're around 10 people, there's gonna be one that's like, that guy's a dipshit. I don't ever want to talk to that guy.
20:12 Speaker 01 Yeah, I thought about that and I think there was still one. I think it was just.
20:16 Cameron Hanes? He is you. Yeah, cuz when everybody's cool, not everybody's cool. So, but other than you, everyone was
20:26 Speaker 01 Yeah.
20:26 Cameron Hanes? super cool. And that was like, I mean, Brandon from MKC, we got Travis, we had Ruben. God, who else did we have?
20:35 Speaker 01 We had Riley, who was
20:37 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, the camera guy.
20:38 Speaker 01 Camera guy for Brandon.
20:39 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, he was great.
20:39 Speaker 01 Yeah.
20:41 Cameron Hanes? All the, I mean, me, you, John, Jen,
20:47 Cameron Hanes? Hazel,
20:50 Cameron Hanes? Griz.
20:51 Speaker 01 Julia.
20:51 Cameron Hanes? Julia and Yeti and Jordan.
20:54 Speaker 01 Yeah.
20:55 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, and everyone was cool.
20:58 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, epic week. Yeah, I told, I just told Lisa, I said, hey, she's sitting on a eight. And I said, are you in a tree or on the ground? She's like, tree. I said, okay, cuz there's a bear in there. That's gonna be an issue. She goes, yeah, he just walked in and stared right at her and came right to the tree.
21:15 Speaker 01 That little shithead.
21:16 Cameron Hanes? I said, so I felt better. She was in a tree. She brought bear spray tonight cuz last night he was being a dick. So
21:24 Speaker 01 He's an issue.
21:25 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, he's, I mean, when he gets bigger, I hope he normal, normally it's the juvenile bears that kinda feel intimidated by the big boar. So they wanna take it out on something smaller. I hope when he gets bigger, he's not like that cuz if he's big and like that, that's an issue.
21:39 Speaker 01 Yeah.
21:39 Cameron Hanes? But uh, cuz he's not big enough to shoot right now. He's like a six foot bear. But um, so she saw that. Uh, I guess she saw the big one last night. He came in like four times and no, or like started to come in four times. No shot.
21:52 Speaker 01 No shot.
21:52 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
21:53 Speaker 01 Yeah. Um, man, it is, uh, I feel like the drive gets longer every year, but anyways.
22:00 Cameron Hanes? The drive?
22:01 Speaker 01 Yeah.
22:01 Cameron Hanes? What do you mean?
22:02 Speaker 01 Well, from the airport to which we fly
22:06 Cameron Hanes? Oh, God, I know. Yeah.
22:08 Speaker 01 To an unknown location.
22:09 Cameron Hanes? Going back was long.
22:11 Speaker 01 Yeah, fuck.
22:12 Cameron Hanes? Felt like.
22:12 Speaker 01 Yeah, it was.
22:13 Cameron Hanes? Thank God for McDonald's.
22:16 Speaker 01 And that's, and I've felt different since then.
22:18 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
22:19 Speaker 01 Yeah, that was the starting, that was the point. I'm a better person now. People say I've changed. I have a glow about me.
22:26 Cameron Hanes? No, but if you get McDonald's, so two plain burgers, fries and a caramel sundae with the fries dipped in.
22:34 Speaker 01 Yeah, McDonald's, why aren't we doing something where the fries come with the dessert?
22:38 Cameron Hanes? Maybe that's what Jalen Brunson eats.
22:42 Cameron Hanes? He has that three times a day. Cause I could.
22:45 Speaker 01 That would, that starts to make a little more sense.
22:48 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. But, uh, yeah, I know it's way the fuck out there, but, um, great hunt, great camp. The rivets, John and Jen love them. Uh, it's like family and, um, we had just perfect, basically perfect weather the whole time. Last year it poured on, soaked, sitting a million hours a day.
23:09 Cameron Hanes? But yeah, so yeah, just a great, great hunt. Um, yeah, let's see.
23:15 Speaker 01 What about that first bear? It's kind of cool.
23:18 Cameron Hanes? First bear.
23:19 Speaker 01 Not on the bait.
23:21 Cameron Hanes? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, first bear. Yeah. He was a big, over seven foot bear and was able to stock up on him and, uh, make a good shot. Have you looked at the counting coups yet?
23:31 Speaker 01 Yeah, I was just looking at it.
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25:54 Speaker 01 Well, his counting, the audio.
25:57 Cameron Hanes? Oh, that's too much.
25:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
25:58 Cameron Hanes? That's, that's not for public consumption.
26:01 Speaker 01 No, but I think it, I think it'll like where I chase up to the counting coo and I'm right behind you. That part will work.
26:07 Cameron Hanes? What about the second one?
26:09 Speaker 01 Second one is I'm a little far behind to do like what we wanted to do for that clip. But I mean, it, once I'm there, it's good.
26:17 Cameron Hanes? Were you closer to me on the first one?
26:19 Speaker 01 Yeah.
26:19 Cameron Hanes? Okay.
26:20 Speaker 01 Yeah, I was like 10 yards behind you.
26:21 Cameron Hanes? Oh, good.
26:22 Speaker 01 Took off with you, so.
26:23 Cameron Hanes? Oh, good, good. Okay. Yeah. I mean, we never really show the counting coos or people. I don't really want to talk about what they are, but look it up. Um, it's, it's some other stupid thing I do. It's hard to know why I do the things I do, but it means a lot to me.
26:44 Speaker 01 Yeah. I mean, I weirdly now look forward to them every time.
26:48 Cameron Hanes? It's so powerful, dude. It's, if I kill something, it...
26:56 Cameron Hanes? Man, I don't know. I mean, I wanna, I wanna be there. I mean, you can't really do that with a deer and elk, I guess.
27:06 Cameron Hanes? But.
27:09 Speaker 01 What, what is it that's different about bears that you're able to do that?
27:14 Cameron Hanes? Um.
27:18 Cameron Hanes? I'm not sure. I think I like the danger part of it. Because deer and elk are not gonna attack you, right? When they're dying, they're trying to get away. And I, I'm not sure. I don't know. I don't know if it's just more of a connection I have with the bears. I don't know if it's.
27:36 Speaker 01 But I'm not sure you could even catch up to deer or elk. Do you think? Eventually you could.
27:41 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, I mean, if you hit them perfect, they're not gonna go too far.
27:45 Speaker 01 Maybe it's just because bears are, they get into like defensive, so they don't run as far. They just find somewhere they can back into and face.
27:53 Cameron Hanes? Basically, they wanna face their back trail, and so they don't. And so that's why on the first, or no, second one.
28:01 Cameron Hanes? I, I didn't know if he was all the way. Yeah, so it's, but anyway, it's just a powerful thing. It's, it wouldn't, I don't know who it would make sense to other than me, and I don't care. Cause it's, it's my hunt.
28:13 Speaker 01 Yeah, I mean, I, I can understand it to a point where it's like, you know, every animal I've filmed or photographed that, that's dead. You know, I always put a hand on them and thank them because, you know, I'm, uh, I don't wanna say taking advantage, but that animal dying is helping my career in a way. You know, I'm there able to take photos and be a part of the moment. So I think it's a, a cool way to pay respects to the animal.
28:36 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, I think that's the biggest thing. I think it's just to that point, when they're actually dying, it's even more powerful.
28:45 Speaker 01 Yep.
28:45 Cameron Hanes? So.
28:47 Cameron Hanes? Again, if you've never hunt, even if you have hunted, it probably doesn't make sense. I'm just telling you, it's for me, it's just what I do.
28:54 Speaker 01 Yeah.
28:55 Cameron Hanes? And is it going to get the best of me at some point? Probably, but that's the way it goes.
29:00 Speaker 01 That's the way the cookie crumbles. Um, yeah, so that, that first bear was awesome. It was different. We, we were able to stalk him and, and then, uh, yeah, we sat on a bait that we didn't even know it was there.
29:13 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, it's a camera wasn't working, so we just baited it that morning and thought it looked, whatever, you know, it's where I killed Raven last year, a big eight footer. And, uh, so I thought, well, yeah, let's give it a shot. We don't know if anything's good coming in, but it's always a good area. And, uh, we didn't see anything for quite a while.
29:33 Speaker 01 Nothing.
29:34 Cameron Hanes? For hours.
29:34 Speaker 01 And I do want to talk about that because there's been times where I'm sitting in the tree stand by myself and you don't see or hear anything and you start fucking off. It's like you take a piss or you know, your, your safety harness, whatever rattles against the thing and you don't care, but we were dead quiet.
29:50 Cameron Hanes? Oh, yeah, just because you just never know. A lot of times those big boars will stand back there and they'll listen. So if you make any noise, they're just like, knew it.
29:58 Speaker 01 Yeah, I'll pass.
29:59 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, I'm good. But we didn't make any noise. And then I, I turned back at one time and I saw that boar standing back there in the trees.
30:06 Speaker 01 Yeah.
30:07 Cameron Hanes? And then he didn't, then he went to the left, kind of disappeared. So I turned back around. I was just sitting there, just kind of chilling out and, um,
30:15 Cameron Hanes? I think you, or did you tell me?
30:17 Speaker 01 I had seen him again.
30:18 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
30:18 Speaker 01 And, uh, and then I had seen a much smaller bear that I thought was a cub follow him. So I was like, you know, from a tree stand and through the trees, I was like, maybe he wasn't as big as I thought.
30:28 Cameron Hanes? It's hard on perspective.
30:29 Speaker 01 So I told you, oh, it might be a sow with a cub.
30:31 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, yeah. And no, it was a big sow with a giant boar.
30:38 Cameron Hanes? So the, the, what's that called? The, uh, the ratio was about the same.
30:42 Speaker 01 Yeah.
30:43 Cameron Hanes? But the initial size of the cub was a six footer instead of a cub. But, um, yeah, bear came in. It was getting kind of late. I mean, last shooting light was about like 10:38, I believe on that day. And I think about 10:18 is when he finally
31:01 Speaker 01 Yeah.
31:01 Cameron Hanes? gave me an opportunity. Then I think, or close to when I think I shot at about 10:20. And, uh, you know, I came to full draw for quite a while because I was like, I almost had a shot at him, but he was like facing me. And then he, he turned and he sat like the first bear I shot, he was sitting. So I'm like, God, am I going to do another sitting shot? Then he got up and kind of went towards the sow. And it's, and then he takes off kind of the same way that Raven went last year. And, uh, you know, I took off for the counting coup and then halfway there, I'm like, I'm not sure if that was a perfect shot. And chasing a wounded bear with a not perfect shot is usually not great.
31:44 Cameron Hanes? But, um, so he's standing by a tree right there and, uh, he, he wasn't down, but I got to him and he went down and then that was about it.
31:56 Speaker 01 Yeah. And before you shot, he stood up.
31:58 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
31:58 Speaker 01 The fucker was big.
31:59 Cameron Hanes? Shit, dude. Yeah. So I think I, cause this bear's going to go in Rogan's studio. I think I might do it standing because him's, because he was eight foot and then standing. And then they do it on a little pedestal like that. How, he would be, what would he be? 10 foot tall?
32:17 Speaker 01 I don't know.
32:18 Cameron Hanes? A black bear?
32:18 Speaker 01 Whatever it is. I mean, you gotta show off that chest.
32:20 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. His chest was huge.
32:23 Speaker 01 Huge.
32:24 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. Just a big bear, but, uh, yeah. Epic hunt.
32:26 Speaker 01 Yeah. Yeah, it was good. Um, I, I think one of my favorite parts, and like you said earlier, is like, sometimes in hunting camp, you kind of dread coming back because you're like, fuck, I gotta talk to this guy.
32:37 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
32:38 Speaker 01 But I was excited to go back and talk with everybody and like, everyone had their own little offshoot conversation. And I felt like there was so much to learn from everybody.
32:45 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
32:46 Speaker 01 In camp, you know?
32:47 Cameron Hanes? It was, I mean, you know, Travis, an amazing businessman.
32:53 Cameron Hanes? Brandon, you know, like helping to run MKC with Josh and they're just blowing up. It's like, how could you not learn from those guys? Ruben, an amazing shooter. And he's a, is it Vortex?
33:06 Speaker 01 Yeah.
33:06 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, I mean, just they're, they're all successful and all in different arenas, basically. And you can learn something from all of them. And then I could actually learn a lot from Hazel. She's, I don't know how old she is, like six, but somehow she's like a little encyclopedia.
33:22 Speaker 01 Smarter than me.
33:23 Cameron Hanes? Definitely smarter than me.
33:24 Speaker 01 Yeah, I was trying to tell her about the tattoo of the angler fish on my calf. And she was like, actually, that's wrong.
33:32 Speaker 01 It's like shit.
33:33 Cameron Hanes? I know.
33:33 Speaker 01 All right, my bad.
33:35 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, she's the best. I love Hazel.
33:37 Speaker 01 Yeah.
33:38 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, I just love everybody. This, this week was, or last week was incredible. And I just liked the time at the skinning table, just after we got back. We'd spare, they're working on bears and you know, some people had never, you know, broke down a bear before, so they don't, it's, if you don't know what to do, then you're holding a leg and just kind of learning and things, and that helps too. And that's, but it's just fun just being with everybody out there. Then like for my second one, I think I turned on some music and yeah, it's just, fuck, how do you, how do you beat that?
34:12 Speaker 01 I don't know if you can.
34:14 Cameron Hanes? That's, yeah, that's the, the best. If some, if somebody said, hey, could you, you know, design your perfect day to either be running in the mountains or skinning a bear with, with everybody?
34:24 Speaker 01 Yeah.
34:24 Cameron Hanes? And it's like, that's to me, that's all I need. If I could do that every day.
34:28 Speaker 01 Yeah, I mean, I don't know, it's a, I definitely look forward to that trip every year. It's fun.
34:33 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, I like the baiting. I like the, the work. I like the building the blinds. I like the checking trail cameras, seeing what bears coming in, just look, just being close to bear. Being, you know, when else are you ever like for me to you from a bear? You know, and it's just a.
34:51 Speaker 01 Smelling beaver, fish, fish guts.
34:55 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, you're, you're a, whatever you did with that. What was that? A little challenge smelling the rotten fish in the bucket?
35:04 Speaker 01 God, that was rank.
35:06 Cameron Hanes? Sweaty taint by Revlon.
35:09 Speaker 01 Yeah, we're bottling it, actually. Sweaty Tape by KHC.
35:13 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, and I wore Travis's, I don't know how much, it's gotta be close to a hundred thousand dollar Rolex, so.
35:20 Speaker 01 It was a Patek.
35:21 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, we got a, yeah, we got a, we got a kill on that, got some bear blood on it.
35:26 Speaker 01 The watch community definitely picked up that.
35:28 Cameron Hanes? They did. So, I don't know how you, I don't know how you could script a better hunt.
35:33 Speaker 01 I don't know. I mean, they are all scripted, you know.
35:36 Cameron Hanes? Well, this is scripted. So me saying that was scripted.
35:38 Speaker 01 So you scripted the script?
35:40 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, so it's like, yeah, line.
35:44 Speaker 01 Six.
35:47 Cameron Hanes? But yeah, and everybody got a bear.
35:48 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah, we went four for four.
35:50 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, it was sick. Everybody got a good bore. Yeah, just a great trip.
35:56 Speaker 01 Yeah, it really was. And then we came back to the hotel and we met up with Jacob.
36:01 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, oh, what a good guy.
36:03 Speaker 01 Yeah.
36:04 Cameron Hanes? Geez, you know, I like his, his brother Tommy, just the whole family, but I don't, so smart and well spoken and measured.
36:16 Speaker 01 Yeah.
36:16 Cameron Hanes? And just, just the nicest guy ever.
36:20 Speaker 01 Yeah, what I noticed about him is, and I would love to get better at this, and I've said this forever, but I never think about it, is thinking before you speak.
36:28 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
36:29 Speaker 01 He would take a second before he said something, which I think is really admirable because I basically just word bomb him.
36:35 Cameron Hanes? I think after I say something.
36:37 Speaker 01 I'll say something and try and find my way while I'm saying it.
36:40 Cameron Hanes? Or I say something and think like two days later.
36:45 Speaker 01 God, that's the worst.
36:46 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, no, I think, yeah, just the nicest guy. His fans, his kids were there, two of his kids were there, and I just had a great conversation. And then that whole, whole table of a million kids that all got bear that I think is like one of their first bear hunts, but they were with their dads and, and was it mostly dads or their?
37:04 Speaker 01 Yeah, I think mostly dads. I think there was a couple moms, but yeah, they were staring or whatever. And I was like, you guys want a picture? And they were like, please, please.
37:11 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
37:11 Speaker 01 It's like, he'll take a picture.
37:12 Cameron Hanes? They were so cool. And then the girl with the Parker McCollum hoodie got the biggest bear. So, I don't know, I just. You know, that's, those are my people and like Jacob, he is a race director and a family of incredible runners. Jacob, uh, is it, I don't know how to say their last name, Poozy?
37:32 Speaker 01 Yeah.
37:32 Cameron Hanes? It's P U Z E Y. And, um, just, I don't know. I just can't, I just can't say enough good about him.
37:39 Speaker 01 Yeah. Uh, his little boy who was seven.
37:43 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
37:44 Speaker 01 He and I had the same humor, which is, I told him, I said, it's poop, poop and farts.
37:48 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, it makes sense.
37:50 Speaker 01 He was killing me though. He was down there telling the stories and he could not finish the story without dying laughing. A lot of what I do, and you guys give me hate for it.
37:57 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. And you were down there eating off the kids menu with macaroni and cheese and hot dogs. And I had a ribeye and Jacob had a ribeye.
38:04 Speaker 01 The mac and cheese was so good.
38:05 Cameron Hanes? Was, I bet.
38:07 Speaker 01 Yeah, carb load. I had to do those 600 grams.
38:09 Cameron Hanes? Dude, get it.
38:10 Speaker 01 You know?
38:10 Cameron Hanes? Get it.
38:11 Speaker 01 Um, but yeah, so we got some cool things coming up too. Some things for the viewers, the fam, the friends of the show to look forward to.
38:18 Cameron Hanes? What?
38:18 Speaker 01 Well, we have the podcast with Jax.
38:21 Cameron Hanes? Oh, yeah.
38:21 Speaker 01 And then, aren't you going to be a guest on somebody's podcast?
38:25 Cameron Hanes? Oh, yeah. I'm not talking about that though.
38:29 Speaker 01 Okay, we're not doing that.
38:31 Cameron Hanes? No, yeah.
38:32 Speaker 01 And.
38:32 Cameron Hanes? But stay tuned.
38:33 Speaker 01 Stay tuned.
38:35 Cameron Hanes? For nothing.
38:36 Speaker 01 Yeah. We actually, we cut that part of the script.
38:38 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, no, uh, yeah, we got that coming, nothing, and that's all.
38:43 Speaker 01 We got big things of nothing coming. And I'm running a 50K this week.
38:50 Cameron Hanes? When? This weekend or a week?
38:52 Speaker 01 I was gonna wake up at like 4am and do it.
38:54 Cameron Hanes? Tomorrow?
38:56 Speaker 01 Probably Thursday. Wait, is tomorrow Wednesday?
38:58 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. No, Thursday we got Jax.
39:00 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah. So tomorrow.
39:02 Cameron Hanes? Okay.
39:03 Speaker 01 Well, I gotta go to the store.
39:04 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, carb load?
39:06 Speaker 01 Yeah, I gotta get some gels. I'm just, I, I plan on just going out five and a half miles, coming back five and a half miles to the house. Aid station.
39:14 Cameron Hanes? That's 11.
39:16 Speaker 01 Yeah. And then doing that three times.
39:17 Cameron Hanes? Okay.
39:18 Speaker 01 So.
39:18 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. Sounds easy.
39:21 Speaker 01 Yeah.
39:22 Cameron Hanes? Sounds good on paper.
39:23 Speaker 01 It sounds like at 22, when I'm back at the house.
39:26 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
39:27 Speaker 01 And I have every reason to just say, it's good enough.
39:30 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. Cause 22 is a good day. That's gonna be the test.
39:34 Speaker 01 Yeah.
39:34 Cameron Hanes? That third one.
39:35 Speaker 01 So we'll see how that goes, but I know I don't want to do it in the heat. So.
39:39 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
39:39 Speaker 01 We'll see.
39:40 Cameron Hanes? Remember when I used to build a race?
39:42 Speaker 01 Yeah. Do you miss it?
39:46 Speaker 01 Speaking of which.
39:47 Cameron Hanes? In the next lifetime, I'll be good to go. I think it's just for this lifetime.
39:51 Speaker 01 That's true.
39:52 Cameron Hanes? I'm pretty sure.
39:52 Speaker 01 Yeah.
39:53 Cameron Hanes? So.
39:53 Speaker 01 I didn't think about that.
39:54 Cameron Hanes? Look out, look, look out of the next life.
39:56 Speaker 01 But I will say, if you guys thought my 50K take was bad and pissed you off,
40:02 Speaker 01 if I do this 100K, you're not gonna like what I have to say.
40:04 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. You're gonna say 100K's don't count? Holy shit.
40:08 Speaker 01 If I'm able to do them, fuck.
40:09 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. No, I, well, I guess you can't say, cause I always say I'm not a runner.
40:14 Speaker 01 Yeah, I'm definitely not.
40:16 Cameron Hanes? Well, yeah, now, now, I guess I have to, I don't know, I'm like.
40:21 Speaker 01 Oh, you, you kind of are a runner.
40:24 Cameron Hanes? I mean, if I'm getting a lifetime ban, they, they don't ban non-runners, do they?
40:30 Speaker 01 The first non-runner banned.
40:33 Cameron Hanes? The first bow hunter banned by a USADA. Now, I don't even know what's going on.
40:37 Speaker 01 Yeah, that didn't.
40:39 Cameron Hanes? It, it's all good.
40:40 Speaker 01 Yeah, it's all love.
40:41 Cameron Hanes? It's all love.
40:42 Speaker 01 You know what? Yeah. Big love for them.
40:44 Cameron Hanes? For a friend of the show? Everyone.
40:46 Speaker 01 Their association.
40:47 Cameron Hanes? I love all of them.
40:48 Speaker 01 Big love for Big Yahoo.
40:50 Cameron Hanes? BB, big love. Um, who else do we got big love for? Everyone?
41:00 Speaker 01 Yeah, everyone.
41:02 Cameron Hanes? I got big love for Ronnie up at White's Custom Meats. Cause he's, he's working, doing his magic on my bear.
41:09 Speaker 01 Yeah. What'd you get?
41:10 Cameron Hanes? Uh, getting done?
41:11 Speaker 01 Yeah.
41:12 Cameron Hanes? I'm getting a jerky, a third jerky, a third pepperoni, a third sausage. So.
41:19 Speaker 01 It's a good mix.
41:19 Cameron Hanes? It's gonna be good shit.
41:20 Speaker 01 Yeah.
41:21 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. So that was fun.
41:23 Speaker 01 I do gotta show you this before we log off.
41:25 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
41:26 Speaker 01 This was
41:29 Speaker 01 2022. If you just wanna know what, what I used to do.
41:35 Cameron Hanes? What is that? Is that you and Eric? Who is that?
41:39 Speaker 01 Far before I fucking met Eric. That's back in Bozeman.
41:41 Cameron Hanes? Oh.
41:42 Speaker 01 Or here's a good one. Yeah, this is the same night. Do you think I was a little inebriated?
41:47 Cameron Hanes? Geez, you got cutoffs, cutoff shorts.
41:50 Speaker 01 Mutton chops.
41:52 Cameron Hanes? That's sick. What were you doing? Just?
41:54 Speaker 01 It's called the.
41:54 Cameron Hanes? Getting buttfucked everywhere?
42:03 Cameron Hanes? I mean, it's all love. I don't, I'm not, I don't want to judge it. I, I, what I meant, making love.
42:12 Speaker 01 I think that's it. That's all I got on my list.
42:13 Cameron Hanes? Really?
42:14 Speaker 01 Yeah.
42:16 Cameron Hanes? Well, good.
42:22 Cameron Hanes? Good, cuz I'm, I'm tired of talking. I've been talking all day.
42:26 Speaker 01 I'm tired, grandpa.
42:27 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
42:28 Speaker 01 Why have you been talking?
42:29 Cameron Hanes? Fuck, me? I don't know. Meetings.
42:33 Speaker 01 Have another podcast I don't know about?
42:35 Cameron Hanes? No, just, uh, we got some camo drama.
42:40 Speaker 01 Careful.
42:42 Cameron Hanes? Oh, yeah. Never mind. So that's good.
42:45 Speaker 01 Ooh, that's gonna be, that's gonna be, clip that. We're gonna need a clip of that.
42:52 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, I hope, um, so Lisa and Savannah are up there right now. Hope they get Big Bear.
42:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
42:58 Cameron Hanes? Be sick.
42:59 Speaker 01 Girls trip. Well, two girls trip.
43:01 Cameron Hanes? Dude, there's frickin' giants. Gi-gi-gi-gi-giants running around right now. Like, why did I shoot that tiny seven footer?
43:10 Speaker 01 We could still be there.
43:11 Cameron Hanes? I know.
43:12 Speaker 01 What the fuck?
43:13 Cameron Hanes? I don't know, but next year.
43:16 Speaker 01 You win some, you lose some.
43:17 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. Oh, it's another thing. So I, I got my sheep hunt squared away.
43:22 Speaker 01 Oh, you did?
43:23 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. So also, if, uh, so doing a stone sheep hunt, and if it goes well, then he said, hey, would you be interested in a goat? If it, if we get the sheep killed early, and, uh, I said, fuck, yeah, let's do it. So that would be an epic double.
43:44 Speaker 01 That would be an epic.
43:44 Cameron Hanes? I don't know if anybody's ever got with a bow, a stone sheep and a Rocky Mountain goat on the same hunt?
43:52 Speaker 01 Yeah, it'd be pretty wild.
43:52 Cameron Hanes? That'd be sick. So, and also I asked him, I said, how about, is this country like bow huntable? Cuz sometimes it's super wide open.
44:00 Speaker 01 Yeah.
44:01 Cameron Hanes? It's just terrible bow hunting. But he goes, yeah, yeah, it's, it's good bow hunting. And, uh, I said, has there been any bow kills? He's like, well. Yeah, we've had bow hunters. They're usually bow hunters for about two days. Which that's usually how it goes.
44:17 Speaker 01 Yeah.
44:17 Cameron Hanes? Like, oh, this is impossible. Where's that rifle? And, uh.
44:22 Speaker 01 What's a nice bow you got there? Let me check it out.
44:24 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, or no, nice rifle you got there.
44:26 Speaker 01 Well, but he'd call it a bow.
44:27 Cameron Hanes? Oh, oh, yeah.
44:28 Speaker 01 Some people.
44:29 Cameron Hanes? The long range bow.
44:30 Speaker 01 The long range bow.
44:31 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
44:32 Speaker 01 The, the, the boom bow.
44:33 Cameron Hanes? And then Tanner got a chance to go up and work at Bushwhacker. So that was cool. Um, he was able to go on a, and help pack on a brown bear hunt. So.
44:44 Speaker 01 Loved it.
44:44 Cameron Hanes? Pretty, oh, yeah. He fucking lives for that shit. And he did a good job. So.
44:50 Speaker 01 You know.
44:50 Cameron Hanes? That's cool.
44:50 Speaker 01 You know what else they call rifles?
44:52 Cameron Hanes? What?
44:53 Speaker 01 White man's boom stick.
44:57 Cameron Hanes? Who was that that just said that?
45:01 Speaker 01 That's a pharmaceutical.
45:08 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. Uh, so yeah, Tanner had an epic, like in an actual real Alaska brown bear hunt.
45:15 Speaker 01 That's really sick.
45:16 Cameron Hanes? Those are legit. But, um, yeah, then we're doing a sheep hunt and that's always legit. So it's going to be,
45:26 Cameron Hanes? me, you, Wes, and the guide.
45:30 Speaker 01 Wes is a, he's a badass.
45:32 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
45:32 Speaker 01 Yeah.
45:32 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. So that'll be.
45:33 Speaker 01 That'll be fun.
45:34 Cameron Hanes? That'll be a good, good trip. But, uh, yeah. So anyway, got some good stuff coming. Um, yeah, uh, that's about it.
45:41 Speaker 01 Stay tuned.
45:42 Cameron Hanes? That's about all I had.
45:44 Speaker 01 Uh, that's all I have.
45:46 Cameron Hanes? Oh yeah. What about the Bentley? Can you win it?
45:49 Speaker 01 Ad section.
45:50 Cameron Hanes? Can you win it?
45:51 Speaker 01 Can I?
45:52 Cameron Hanes? Can anyone win it?
45:54 Speaker 01 I mean.
45:55 Cameron Hanes? Theoretically.
45:56 Speaker 01 Theoretically, yes, anybody could win it. But what you have to do to win this Bentley that you're giving away.
46:02 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
46:03 Speaker 01 Which, brand new, is a $300,000 car and we put camo flames on it.
46:07 Cameron Hanes? That reminds me, I think we're giving away.
46:10 Speaker 01 A bow.
46:11 Cameron Hanes? No.
46:11 Speaker 01 We gave one away.
46:12 Cameron Hanes? Oh, yeah, I know. But I think a Rolex with it, are we?
46:19 Speaker 01 Is this breaking news?
46:21 Cameron Hanes? Should be a live tracking link for you to easily see signature we
46:28 Cameron Hanes? I don't know if this is it, but we might be giving away a Rolex too with the with the Bentley.
46:33 Speaker 01 Let me finish my ad.
46:34 Cameron Hanes? Okay, go ahead.
46:35 Speaker 01 If you want to win this sick Bentley, which brand new is worth $300,000 and has Cameron Hanes camo wrapped on the front.
46:44 Speaker 01 Go to Cameron Haynes.com. What is the like the Viagra commercials when it's like the symptoms at the end?
46:51 Cameron Hanes? Oh.
46:52 Speaker 01 If you experience an erection for longer than four hours.
46:58 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, we need the disclaimer. The fine print.
47:01 Speaker 01 The fine print.
47:03 Cameron Hanes? You could have like an erection more than four hours driving that thing.
47:07 Speaker 01 You probably will.
47:08 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
47:10 Cameron Hanes? Fucks up steering.
47:11 Speaker 01 Man.
47:12 Cameron Hanes? That steering wheel just like catching on it.
47:17 Speaker 01 Might rub your tip.
47:20 Cameron Hanes? Got to be careful.
47:22 Speaker 01 If there's a little smear on the steering wheel, you know.
47:24 Cameron Hanes? Don't worry about that.
47:25 Speaker 01 Yeah, but.
47:26 Cameron Hanes? But yeah, I hope I can't wait for somebody to win that thing. So what if we did the Bentley 10,000 cash and a Rolex?
47:33 Speaker 01 I kind of sounds like we need to do shoot a music video.
47:36 Cameron Hanes? Oh yeah. When is that finished?
47:38 Speaker 01 Oh, we're trying to do the cop shoot next week or like early next week.
47:41 Cameron Hanes? Okay. But um, what was I gonna say? Uh, yeah. So anyway. It's a pretty sick price.
47:49 Speaker 01 If you want to be a baller.
47:52 Speaker 01 And you probably sell it all. But if you want to be a baller for a little bit.
47:55 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
47:57 Speaker 01 You got a date? Come on.
47:58 Cameron Hanes? Dude, I love driving that thing. It's fricking nuts.
48:01 Speaker 01 It might be the nicest ride I've ever been in. And not just price wise, but the way it drives.
48:07 Cameron Hanes? It's like you can go, it feels like you can go a thousand miles an hour.
48:11 Speaker 01 Yeah, I mean.
48:11 Cameron Hanes? On curves.
48:12 Speaker 01 Every time you're going. Like hundred in a school zone.
48:16 Cameron Hanes? But I, what, what was that car I drove in Nashville? Remember Whistling Diesels? What was that?
48:22 Speaker 01 Oh, that Ferrari?
48:24 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
48:25 Speaker 01 Well, I didn't get to ride in that.
48:26 Cameron Hanes? That's close.
48:26 Speaker 01 Yeah.
48:27 Cameron Hanes? That thing hugs the road, dude. That car is nuts, too. But that's, that's like more of a, it's definitely not as comfortable.
48:36 Speaker 01 No.
48:36 Cameron Hanes? You know, Bentley, that Bentley is like a, just like a, you know, the Ferrari is, you gotta be kind of serious when you get in that thing.
48:45 Speaker 01 You know, like Rolls Royce have the umbrella that pops out?
48:48 Cameron Hanes? Yeah.
48:48 Speaker 01 The Bentley has a lotion dispenser.
48:51 Cameron Hanes? Yeah, I know it's that. It's out, by the way.
48:54 Speaker 01 I'll refill it.
48:56 Cameron Hanes? Yeah. So anyway, hope you guys win it. Remember Shit Talkers Weekly. It's all love. No offense ta- hopefully no offense taken. This is all scripted and this is fiction. Hundred percent fiction.
49:07 Speaker 01 Yeah. So now you can pull your panties out of their wad.
49:11 Cameron Hanes? Keep crammering.
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50:53 Cameron Hanes? shoot 90 pounds. I shoot a 90-pound bow because I want a hard-hitting arrow delivered with enough force to push through, say, a rib or the edge of a shoulder blade, because it's bow hunting. Not every shot is going to be perfect, but when the animal reacts, or maybe I don't make the most perfect shot, I still want to deliver a lethal arrow, and a 90-pound bow gives me more room for error. Unfortunately, they don't offer discounts on bows, but if you want to grab some Hoyt merch or selected accessories, you can use my code CAM for 20% off. If you're serious about archery and you want something you can rely on, shoot
51:35 Cameron Hanes? a Hoyt. Go find one at your local dealer, just like the bow rack here down the street from me, and try it for yourself. Get serious, get Hoyt, and keep hammering.
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